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6 LAST-MINUTE Fantasy Draft Tips + Updated QB, RB, WR & TE Tiers (09/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)
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1 hr 14 min
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Estimated from transcript
Sep 3, 2026
Published
Thu, September 3, 2026
67
Player insights
56
Players mentioned
Topics
Ashton JeantyBlake CorumD'Andre SwiftDavante AdamsJayden ReedJordan LoveKirk CousinsKyle PittsMalik NabersRhamondre StevensonSam LaPortaBrian Thomas Jr.Brock BowersCaleb Williams
Player analysis
Player insights
Ashton Jeanty
PositiveInjury20:16
Clint Kubiak is optimistic about Ashton Jenty playing in Week 1, and the source notes that his expected availability justifies keeping him in the same tier as other top running backs like Kenneth Walker and Derrick Henry.
Insight pagePositiveInjury33:36
The source reports that Clint Kubiak is optimistic about Ashton Jeanty playing in Week 1.
Insight pageBlake Corum
PositiveValue6:37
The source highlights Blake Corum as a high-value running back, noting his ADP is 96th overall as RB36.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout18:41
The source suggests Blake Corum could overtake Kyren Williams, citing his potential to earn more playing time in a run-heavy Rams offense. Corum averaged nearly 9 PPR points in games with 30% snap share last year; the source expects this to increase to 50%.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeProjection60:07
The source notes that Brian Thomas Jr. is slipping in their rankings and may not even belong in tier six, citing concerns from the team's schedule.
Insight pageBrock Bowers
PositiveValue21:00
Brock Bowers and Trey McBride are grouped in the top tier of tight ends. The source notes that in non-PPR formats, Bowers is in a tier of his own, though McBride gets a slight nudge in half-PPR scoring.
Insight pageCaleb Williams
PositiveProjection69:57
Caleb Williams is expected to improve in his second year, with the source noting his playmaking ability can overcome lower completion percentages. His efficiency is expected to rise, benefiting his pass-catchers.
Insight pageCarnell Tate
PositiveValue60:33
Despite a significant drop in ADP, the source believes Carnell Tate will end up being a great value pick, noting that current market avoidance is an overreaction.
Insight pageCeeDee Lamb
PositiveValue51:57
The source considers CeeDee Lamb a first-round pick, noting he will receive high target volume and is healthy, making him a strong selection at the back end of the first round.
Insight pageChris Olave
Colston Loveland
PositiveValue63:54
Colson Loveland is considered a late third-round pick with significant upside. The source expects an improvement in his numbers from last year and notes he is a priority target, though his draft stock might rise if he continues to show big-play ability.
Insight pageD'Andre Swift
NegativeUsage37:48
D'Andre Swift has top-10 potential if the current backfield injury situation lingers, though there is concern about the team utilizing other running backs.
Insight pageDavante Adams
PositiveValue5:46
The source prefers Davante Adams over Jamison Williams as a draft target.
Insight pagePositiveValue55:41
The source places Devante Adams in tier five, noting that he is a solid wide receiver two target who should be drafted in the fourth round.
Insight pageDe'Von Achane
PositiveValue6:23
The source identifies De'Von Achane as a top-value running back, noting he is a 3-4 turn pick in current ADP.
Insight pageDrake Maye
Emeka Egbuka
PositiveInjury21:09
Emeka Egbuka ran routes and looked good, with positive feedback from medical observers on social media.
Insight pageGarrett Wilson
PositiveValue5:33
The source prefers Garrett Wilson over Luther Burden as a draft target.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
PositiveValue7:22
The source identifies Isaiah Likely as the best value at tight end, noting he is not a top-100 pick on most platforms.
Insight pageIsiah Pacheco
NegativeInjury21:34
There is no timetable for Isaiah Pacheco's return, though the team is hopeful he returns this season and notes he is getting better.
Insight pageJacob Saylors
NegativeDepth Chart21:40
Jacob Saylors is currently looking like the number two running back on the depth chart.
Insight pageJalen Coker
Jalen Hurts
PositiveProjection23:30
Jalen Hurts is preferred over Jaden Daniels by the source due to his offensive environment, superior offensive line, and better durability outlook.
Insight pageJared Goff
PositiveValue6:12
The source identifies Jared Goff as a high-value quarterback option, noting he is available after pick 100.
Insight pageJayden Reed
PositiveValue7:06
The source groups Jaden Reed with other high-value wide receivers like Quentin Johnston and Josh Downs, noting he is a player they love.
Insight pagePositiveUsage23:26
The source highlights Jayden Reed as a player they are drafting frequently, noting his potential as a starter in three-receiver leagues. Reed has been productive when healthy, recording 13+ PPR points in over half of his 23 career games with 5+ targets.
Insight pageJonathan Taylor
PositiveValue5:23
The source prefers Jonathan Taylor over other high-end running back options like Christian McCaffrey and James Cook when asked for a fourth-overall selection.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveInjury21:26
Dave Canales is very optimistic about Jonathan Brooks playing in Week 1.
Insight pageJordan Addison
PositiveValue6:57
The source identifies Jordan Addison as a high-value wide receiver, noting his ADP is 104th overall as WR44.
Insight pageJordan Love
PositiveProjection3:36
Jordan Love is a strong fantasy option when he throws; he averages 23 fantasy points per game in outings with at least 30 pass attempts.
Insight pagePositiveValue6:10
The source identifies Jordan Love as the best single value at the quarterback position, noting he is available after pick 100.
Insight pageJordan Mason
Josh Allen
NegativeMatchup22:14
Josh Allen has a poor recent history playing in Houston, with one touchdown and three interceptions in his last two games there.
Insight pageJosh Downs
PositiveValue62:33
The source suggests buying the dip on Josh Downs, noting he appears fully recovered from his injury. While the Keenan Allen signing complicates his outlook, if his role evolves to include more downfield usage and he stays healthy, he could return to his previous production levels of over seven targets and 13 PPR points per game.
Insight pageJosh Jacobs
NegativeInjury30:22
The source notes that Green Bay GM Brian Gutekunst is hopeful Josh Jacobs will play at some point in 2026, but his status remains uncertain, leading to his current ADP of 122nd as a handcuff.
Insight pageJustin Herbert
PositiveValue6:04
The source prefers Justin Herbert over Caleb Williams as a draft target.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveMatchup4:55
Juwan Johnson is a potential sleeper for Week 1 against the Lions. The Lions' defense struggled against tight ends when both starting safeties were out last year, and Johnson could benefit from a high-scoring game environment.
Insight pageKenneth Gainwell
PositiveUsage49:13
The source notes that Kenneth Gainwell is projected for 60-plus catches, which provides a safe floor in PPR formats, as 63% of running backs with 50-plus catches over the last five years have scored 13-plus PPR points.
Insight pageKhalil Shakir
PositiveInjury22:19
Khalil Shakir has not been practicing, but there is optimism he will be ready for Week 1. He is highlighted for his strong performance against Houston last year (8 catches, 110 yards on 10 targets).
Insight pageKirk Cousins
PositiveRole20:12
Kirk Cousins is confirmed as the Raiders' Week 1 starter. Over the last two years, he has the second-fastest time to throw/release point in the NFL, trailing only Tua Tagovailoa. This quick release and low aDOT style, which avoids sacks, is expected to benefit teammates Brock Bowers and Ashton Jenty.
Insight pagePositiveRole33:32
The source confirms Kirk Cousins will be the Raiders' Week 1 starter and notes his quick release time, which is the second-fastest in the league over the last two years.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
NegativeValue4:02
Kyle Pitts is included in the third tier of tight ends. While some analysts are skeptical of his situation, he remains a must-start option for those who miss out on the top-tier tight ends.
Insight pageKyler Murray
NegativeBust30:57
Kyler Murray is viewed with skepticism as he has not shown the ability to be better than an above-average starter in recent years, leading to concerns about his tier placement.
Insight pageKyren Williams
NegativeRole19:01
The source notes that while Kyren Williams remains the primary running back for the Rams, he is no longer a third-round pick and should be targeted in round four.
Insight pageLamar Jackson
PositiveValue21:26
Lamar Jackson is a top-tier quarterback option. While there are concerns about his rushing volume and injury history, he is considered a high-ceiling player. A past hamstring injury may have affected his accuracy, but optimism exists for his health.
Insight pageLeQuint Allen
PositiveInjury21:12
LaQuint Allen is questionable for Week 1, with Liam Cohen stating he would be pleasantly surprised if Allen played. Allen was a key third-down route runner and target last season.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
NegativeValue53:24
The source views Malik Nabers as a third-round pick, noting that he is returning from an ACL injury and there are questions about his consistency without AJ Brown on the field.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
NegativeValue30:42
The source ranks Marshawn Lloyd ahead of Jonathan Brooks and Jalen Warren in their updated running back tiers.
Insight pageMichael Penix Jr.
NegativeRole21:48
The Falcons plan to have Michael Penix Jr. start eventually, according to Cameron Wolf.
Insight pageMike Evans
PositiveInjury20:50
Mike Evans practiced, which the source identifies as a good sign for his availability.
Insight pageNico Collins
Parker Washington
Puka Nacua
PositiveValue5:19
The source identifies Puka Nacua as a top-tier target, explicitly selecting him as the preferred pick when asked who to take fourth overall in a draft.
Insight pageQuentin Johnston
PositiveValue6:46
The source identifies Quentin Johnston as a high-value wide receiver, noting he is going around pick 100.
Insight pageRashee Rice
NegativeValue52:40
The source expresses skepticism regarding Rasheed Rice, noting he is a late third or early fourth-round pick in half-PPR formats, as they do not view him with the same high regard as the consensus.
Insight pageRhamondre Stevenson
PositiveValue5:42
The source prefers Rhamondre Stevenson over Marshawn Lloyd as a draft target.
Insight pagePositiveRole43:05
The source notes Rhamondre Stevenson should be included in the tier five/six running back group and is expected to be the lead back for the Patriots, placing him ahead of Marshawn Lloyd in their rankings.
Insight pageRico Dowdle
Rome Odunze
PositiveUsage20:55
Ben Johnson stated he needs to get Rome Odunze the football because he is doing all the little things to help the team win games.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
PositiveValue67:17
Sam LaPorta is a must-start tight end in the third tier, projected to be a reliable weekly contributor who won't be a 'black hole' in fantasy lineups.
Insight pageTony Pollard
NegativeProjection44:02
The source defends Tony Pollard against 'useless' labels, noting he averaged 100 yards per game in his final five games last year. While he lacks RB1 upside, he is viewed as a safe-floor RB2 who could benefit from being on a better offense.
Insight pageTrey McBride
PositiveValue63:54
Trey McBride is ranked in the top tier alongside Brock Bowers. In half-PPR formats, McBride receives a slight edge over Bowers due to the scoring structure.
Insight pageTyler Warren
PositiveValue65:41
Tyler Warren is a preferred target in the late fifth round, with the source noting they would draft him over Joe Burrow, though not over Lamar Jackson.
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Episode Transcript
0:00I recently took a trip to Memphis for the FFT Draft-a-thon.
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2:10This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play!
2:14It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
2:19Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:22Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big show today.
2:25Super fun, jam-packed, lots of stuff. Gonna help you get ready for your drafts.
2:29We are fired up. Adam, Dave, and Jamie, are you guys ready to start?
2:34Because we are preparing this ship for Ludicrous Speed.
2:36Here we go! Okay, coming up today, draft tips, updated tiers, and hey, real quick.
2:41Hey, real quick. Maximum two-word answer edition. Who are you?
2:44Wait, wait, wait. Is Ludicrous Speed in the sequel?
2:47I don't know. I don't know. Oh, you know.
2:50It's gotta be something even faster than Ludicrous Speed.
2:52Agreed. You know. I have no idea if it's a sequel.
2:56Did you suggest anything for the sequel? Did you text Dan and be like, hey, by the way, there's this one thought I had.
3:03Hmm. I think so. I don't think he took the advice.
3:07My friend is one of the writers of Spaceballs, too.
3:10So I don't know anything about it. And a key holder to the city of Coral Springs.
3:15That's right. And Rick Moranis is in it. That's all I know.
3:19Okay. Hey, real quick. Maximum two-word answer edition. Who are you taking fourth overall?
3:23Pukunakua. Pukunakua. James Cook, Jonathan Taylor, or Christian McCaffrey?
3:26Jonathan Taylor. Taylor. George Pickens or Nico Collins? Nico.
3:28Nico. Rasheed Rice or Chris Olave? Olave. Olave. Malik Neighbors or Devante Smith?
3:32Neighbors. Malik. Wow. Everything you agree on. Garrett Wilson or Luther Burden?
3:36Wilson. G-Dub. Jeremiah Love. Wait, no. I did it wrong.
3:39Jeremiah Love or DeAndre Swift? Swift. You did full hootie.
3:42I'll take Love. Jeremiah. Sorry. That was terrible. Marshawn Lloyd or Ramondre Stevenson?
3:46Madre. Ramondre. Devante Adams or Jamison Williams? Adams. Double-checking, double-checking.
3:49I've got... Why can't I find him? I've got Jamo Hire.
3:53No, I don't. I have Devante Hire. God, just what I thought we were going to have a disagreement.
3:59Sam Laporta or Tucker Craft? Laporta. Craft. Hey, there we go.
4:02Kyle Pitts or George Kittle? Pitts. Not Kittle. Caleb Williams or Justin Herbert?
4:06Herbert. Herbie. Drake May or Joe Burrow? May. It's gonna be May.
4:10The best single value at quarterback is? Jordan Love.
4:12Goff. Yeah, I went with Goff as well. He's going after pick 100.
4:16Best single value at running back is? Um... While you think about it, I'm gonna go with Travis Achan at the 3-4 turn.
4:23Are we talking about... We're talking about ADP, obviously.
4:26We're talking about ADP. I've been looking at recent ADP on NFC.
4:30I've also been looking at the real-time ADP on Fantasy Pros, which is pretty good.
4:34Um... He's about a 3-4 turn pick in Travis Achan, so that's my pick.
4:39I'd like to know what the ADP is now for Dowdle and Corum.
4:43All right. So, Dowdle is 83rd as RB29 in the real-time ADP...
4:46Okay. ...for Fantasy Pros. And Corum is 96th overall, RB36.
4:50Bang! Blake Corum. Uh... Jordan Mason. And Jordan Mason is...
4:53Okay. Jordan Mason is one pick after Blake Corum.
4:55Okay. Uh... Best value at wide receiver? I'm going with Quentin Johnson.
4:59Is Parker Washington still going in round 7? Um...
5:02I will tell you in a moment. I went with Quentin Johnston, who's going around pick 100.
5:07Uh... Parker Washington is 64th overall, so he's in round 6.
5:10And he's in round 6. Jalen Coker. Better than that.
5:13Coker, 134. Uh... Where's Concepcion? 100 and... 12th. Wide receiver.
5:17One more. Jordan Addison. Addison is 104th. Wide receiver 44.
5:20All right. I'll say Concepcion, but... Each of the three wide receiver names you just heard are all very, very good.
5:26That would be... Where's Jaden Reed? Jaden Reed in the real time is just ahead of...
5:31It goes Quentin Johnston at wide receiver 40. Jaden Reed.
5:34Josh Downs. Josh Downs. Dijon Stribling. Jordan Addison. I love that group.
5:38Yeah, me too. The group. Okay. Um... And then best value at tight end?
5:42Likely. Hey, that's what I said too. He is only a top 100 pick on CBS.
5:47Uh... NFC last seven days. Fantasy pros real time.
5:50Still not a top 100 pick. And he's like 96th on CBS.
5:53Isaiah Likely. All right. Check out our must draft list online.
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6:01till kickoff. And then even earlier when there's games in Europe or overseas.
6:05And check out the mailbag show tonight. Yes, we're doing a Thursday night mailbag instead of a Friday afternoon mailbag.
6:11And it is still going to be airing on Saturday.
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6:19Time for our draft day tips. Two from each of us.
6:22Dave, give me your two draft day tips. Start with the most obvious one.
6:26The one that applies to literally everybody. Know your league scoring and lineup requirements before you go into your draft.
6:32Make sure you know if it's non, half, full PPR.
6:36Two wide receiver. Three wide receiver. One flex. Two flex.
6:39Do you need to start a tight end? Is it super flex?
6:42Are there IR spots? How many are there? Can you use them near advantage during the draft?
6:48All things you've got to know before you go into the selection process.
6:52It's actually, it seems obvious, but it really is a great point.
6:55A lot of times I don't read the rules and it's pretty stupid.
6:59Number two for you, Dave. Most of your bench should be high upside plays and not safe guys.
7:05You don't need a wide receiver six. You don't need a third tight end.
7:09You don't necessarily need to have two quarterbacks and two tight ends.
7:13Waver wire is your friend for those positions. Just load up your bench with players who you're happy to carry on your
7:20team going into week one and then reevaluate after week one.
7:23We all know that our fantasy teams are going to look very different by the time we get to December and January than they do now.
7:31Use it to your advantage and just take as many upside shots as you can, especially in the second half of your draft.
7:38Dave says, know your league scoring and roster settings and most of your bench should be high upside players who you'll want
7:45to hold on to for at least the first three weeks of the season.
7:49Jamie, your two draft day tips. You don't have to draft for need.
7:53You can draft for talent. You should draft for talent.
7:56So once you start to see how your team is starting to shape out, you don't necessarily have to fill that second
8:03running back spot when a bench receiver could be better for your team.
8:07You don't have to take your quarterback when other running back depth could be better for your team.
8:12We had this conversation with our super flex draft that we did where you were telling me, oh, I need a quarterback.
8:19And I said, no, I'm not going to pass on good players because I just need to fill a spot.
8:25So I think just understand that once you start to see the core of your team come together, make sure you go
8:32out and get the most talent that you possibly can.
8:35Is it talent or I mean, you could probably say it's the exact same thing.
8:40Talent or value? I would look at a draft and say, oh, I can't believe this dude has slipped to this spot.
8:46I know I need an RB2. The best RB2 on the board is like Basial Tootin.
8:51But, you know, here's Jamison Williams sitting there for me.
8:54I can't pass that up. Okay. Jamie, your second tip?
8:58You don't have to draft your own handcuffs. Steal somebody else's.
9:01Do you prefer that to drafting your own handcuff?
9:041000% I prefer it. I mean, I'm not going to ignore drafting my own handcuff if it makes the most sense.
9:10But I drafted that particular running back or running backs because I think they're going to have great seasons, not because I'm expecting them to get injured.
9:18So if I can take that player and then take somebody else's player that I think might get injured or have a
9:25better chance to outperform that person, I'm going to do that to hopefully maximize my roster.
9:30And here are my two draft day tips for you.
9:33Number one, ignore ADP if you believe in a player, especially in the mid rounds.
9:38I've done the research. I've looked at the players that have hit in the mid rounds.
9:43You're just as likely to have a fifth or a sixth round pick hit as a fourth round pick.
9:49I mean, that might be a slight exaggeration, but ADP kind of goes out the window.
9:53The only time you should really pay attention to ADP is if you definitely feel like you can get that player you want with your next pick.
10:02Then it becomes a reach. But if you're not sure you can get that player, don't worry about what the consensus is saying.
10:09Trust your gut. Get your guy. Number two, looking at our FFT league.
10:13This is a 12-team league that we do in the office.
10:16It's a really good competitive league. It's a three-receiver PPR league.
10:20The last five teams that won the FFT league, they did not.
10:23Only one of them took a quarterback before round seven.
10:26A lot of them took quarterbacks that weren't even really that good.
10:30My point is quarterback is definitely the position that you can wait on.
10:34Josh Allen might be the most consistent, most productive, most reliable, steady player in fantasy football.
10:39He might be the worst value in all of fantasy football because not only can you draft a quarterback that can win
10:46you a league, a lot of times you can pick up a quarterback that can win you a league.
10:52It just sort of happens that way in a one-quarterback league.
10:55So if you're just not feeling great about your team, you're in round three or four, you don't like to just keep
11:02waiting on quarterback and you're going to be okay.
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11:14Get styled today at stitchfix.com slash football. Dave, one of the guys I wanted to talk about you already mentioned, and it's Blake Corum.
11:21Dan Graziano of ESPN wrote a sort of like surprising or bold prediction for each team.
11:26I went back and looked at his column last year, and it was pretty good.
11:31He had some good things that were helpful for fantasy managers.
11:34He had some misses, of course. But one of the things he said was that don't be surprised if Blake Corum overtakes
11:41Kyron Williams at some point this season. You talked about him as a great value that you love.
11:46Later things going, 96 Blake Corum. So I'm really getting excited about drafting him.
11:51When's the earliest you think you'd take Corum? Eight.
11:53Round eight. And it's with the idea that he can earn more playing time in an offense that could see a lot of run favorable game scripts.
12:02We already know about Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald being added to a really good defense.
12:06You forget about the secondary additions that they made.
12:09So this could be a team that gets a lot of takeaways and dominates offensively and really just dominates time of possession.
12:16And when that happens, you're going to see a team run the football a lot.
12:20So Kyron is obviously still the running back that I want in this backfield, but I'm not taking him in round three anymore.
12:27He's a round four pick. I went back and I double checked.
12:31There were 11 games last year where Blake Corum played at least 30% of the snaps and he averaged almost nine PPR points per game.
12:39And you'll say, well, Dave, that sucks. I don't want a guy that's going to give me nine PPR points per game.
12:46Well, what if the 30% jumps to 40%? What if it jumps to what Dan Graziano is suggesting and it's 50%?
12:52What if he ends up being a more explosive version of himself and a more explosive version of Kyron Williams?
12:58And if that's going to be the case, and we know that Corum has worked on that this offseason and there's video
13:05evidence of it and Sean McVay's talked about it, then this might be the running back to get on the team that
13:12could end up dominating time of possession and having arguably one of the best run games in the National Football League.
13:18I will take that chance in the middle of my draft.
13:22Yep. And in those last 11 games when they both were getting a lot of work, the Rams were number one in
13:28the NFL in it was either carries per game or running back carries per game.
13:33So that setup is still probably both because they didn't have a quarterback that was going to take a bunch of runs.
13:40Well, it was definitely running back carries per game.
13:42I don't know if it was total carries per game because the teams with the mobile quarterbacks, you know, stink up their obvious.
13:50Oh, I see. Yes. Jamie, you got a player you love?
13:53Do I give you one? Think about maybe players that you've been drafting a lot lately.
13:58I don't know if I gave you one that I'm supposed to say.
14:02No, you didn't. You did not. That I've been drafting a lot?
14:06Jayden Reed. You know, just looking at the situation for what the Packers are facing right now, I think it just sets
14:12up very well for him to be a potential starter in three receiver leagues.
14:17I like the fact that from people getting excited about him, that his ADP is rising.
14:22I don't like it that I have to draft him a little sooner than I want to.
14:27But again, when he's been healthy, he's been amazing.
14:2923 games in his career with at least five targets.
14:33He gets usually 13 PPR points or more in more than half of those.
14:37So I'm expecting more volume for the Packers. I think they all benefit.
14:41Christian Watson, Tucker Craft, Matthew Golden. But Reed is very cheap and should be very productive.
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18:22And welcome back, everybody. News and notes. Green Bay GM Brian Guttenkuss says he is hopeful that Josh Jacobs will play at some point in 2026.
18:30So that was, let's see, that was Sunday the news broke.
18:34So Monday was the 31st, right? Let's take a look at the 31st through the 2nd of ADP and see where these guys are going now.
18:42Updated here. Marshawn Lloyd is RB28. So it's Bucky Irving, Jadarion Price, Travion Henderson, Ramondre Stevenson, Jalen Warren, and Marshawn Lloyd, and then Jonathan Brooks.
18:50Warren, Lloyd, and Brooks all have basically the same exact ADP.
18:53Jamie, how would you rank Jalen Warren, Marshawn Lloyd, Jonathan Brooks?
18:56Marshawn Lloyd, Jonathan Brooks, Jalen Warren. Same. Okay. Thank you, Dave.
19:00Sorry. Dave said the same. And then for Josh Jacobs, he is going 122nd, basically as a handcuff.
19:05Kyle Medongai, Mike Washington, Josh Jacobs, Tyler Algier, Jonah Coleman.
19:08Would you take Chris Rodriguez or Josh Jacobs? Rodriguez.
19:11Depends what I need, but probably Rodriguez. Okay. I kind of just, I put Josh Jacobs right where I have Zach Charbonnet.
19:18Like maybe he plays at some point soon. Maybe he doesn't play at all.
19:22We just don't know. So the difference is, and this was a, I got this question yesterday.
19:27I'm sure we all have. Can you stash Jacobs in an IR spot?
19:31And I said, no, I got a lot of different replies to that.
19:35From wrong people? Well, I mean, look, we could sit here and say from a commissioner standpoint, what we would do.
19:42If you're in a league that's going to allow it, you're going to take advantage of it.
19:47Oh yeah. So, you know, there, there, there was a lot of people arguing about that when I said no, you know,
19:54that why, why would I not take advantage of putting him in an IR spot if my league allows it?
20:00Oh, of course. You're just, your league shouldn't allow it.
20:03What does IR stand for again? Indefinitely retired. Oh, okay.
20:06Well then Jacobs belongs, but impending retirement. It's injured reserve.
20:09He's not injured. He shouldn't be allowed on the IR.
20:12Yeah. Kirk cousins is going to be the Raiders week one starter.
20:16And Clint Kubiak is optimistic about Ashton Jenty playing in week one.
20:20So the cousins news is not too surprising. And Jamie and I were asked about the impact of cousins on fantasy, you
20:26know, on, on CBS sports HQ last night. And I said, you know, he's got over the last two years since he
20:33tore his Achilles, he's got the second fastest time to throw or release point.
20:37Like only, only to a tongue of a low has gotten.
20:41I love how you had to explain that. It's hard.
20:44I don't know the best way to say it.
20:47Only to, he's not the fastest thrower has thrown the ball faster.
20:50I gotten rid of the ball quicker than Kirk cousins over the last two years.
20:55It's a low a dot stuff. He doesn't take a lot of sacks, get the ball out.
21:00And you have to figure that's going to favor Bowers and Jenty.
21:04I would anyway, um, San Francisco defensive end, Nick Bosa could play in week one, Mike Evans practice.
21:09That's a good sign. Ben John made the flight.
21:12Yep. Ben Johnson said he needs to get Roma duns a the football because he's doing all the little things to help the team win games.
21:20He's talked up everyone. So keep that in mind.
21:23A Mecca Buka ran around and looked pretty good.
21:26The Twitter doctors liked what they saw. Jacksonville third down back.
21:29LaQuint Allen seems questionable for week one. Liam Cohen said he'd be pleasantly surprised if Allen played.
21:34He ran almost all of the third down routes last year and had eight targets on third down.
21:40So I don't know. It's a huge deal here and it's not a long-term thing.
21:44Uh, Dave Canales is very optimistic about Jonathan Brooks playing in week one.
21:48Detroit GM Brad Holmes gave no timetable for Isaiah Pacheco.
21:51He's hopeful that he returns this season. He says Pacheco is getting better.
21:55Um, Jacob sailors is currently looking like the number two guys.
21:59I've mentioned three shows in a row. Now the Falcons plan to have Michael Penix jr.
22:04Start eventually for them. According to Cameron Wolf of NFL network, Baltimore GM, Eric DaCosta expect expressed optimism about defensive tackle.
22:10Nnamdi Matabuke playing this, uh, playing soon. They didn't put them on IR.
22:14So he could be back soon. He's a very important player for their defense.
22:19Khalil Shakir has not been practicing, but there's optimism that he'll be ready for week one.
22:23And Shakir actually had a huge game against Houston.
22:26Uh, CBS, our research team sent out a note about Josh Allen's history against Houston.
22:31Uh, it is bad, especially in Houston. Two of those games are recent.
22:35Two of those games were super early in his career, but, uh, I think it's like one touchdown, three interceptions in his last two games in Houston.
22:43And the guy who had the big game last year was Khalil Shakiri at eight catches for 110 yards on 10 targets.
22:50All right. Hey, here we are with Jamie's updated tears.
22:53We want you all to have the most updated information.
22:56By the way, today's a good day. If you have any questions in the chat, try to save some time at the
23:03end of the show, some questions, last minute stuff for your draft, but let's go through Jamie's updated quarterback tears.
23:09And Dave will critique tier one is Josh Allen.
23:12Tier two is Lamar Jackson, Drake may Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, and Jalen hurts.
23:16So again, Allen and tier one and Dave, it's a five player tier in tier two, Jackson may Burrow, Daniels hurts.
23:22It with the understanding that Jackson through hurts in Jamie's tears are probably quarterbacks that you're going to look to take between rounds four and seven.
23:30I'm, I'm good with it. I've got hurts one spot out of Daniels.
23:34I understand why Jamie has Daniels ahead of hurts.
23:37Both of them have huge upside. Both of them tied to rushing.
23:41I just, I prefer hurts a little bit more.
23:44I like the offense that he's in a little bit more, certainly like his offensive line and his chances to survive the
23:50season a little bit more than Jaden. Daniels. Am I nitpicking?
23:54But I said that Allen should have his own tier and Jackson should have his own tier.
23:59I just put Allen and Jackson in the same tier, understanding that Allen's going to go ahead of Jackson in every single draft.
24:06Jamie, is there a, what kind of difference is there between Lamar Jackson and Drake may Joe Burrow, Jane Daniels, Jaden hurts.
24:13I think just, you said it earlier that he's just safer, you know?
24:17So Allen is the most tried and true fantasy option.
24:20I think out there with the worst ADP. I'm sorry if I said Allen, I meant Jackson, Jackson versus the other four guys in tier two.
24:28You see them as basically the same or you see a difference?
24:32No, I mean, there's the sliding scale, obviously that's why one's ranked ahead of the other.
24:37But I think as Dave said, that's kind of, I do it by a, by a draft range as opposed to, you
24:43know, where, where, uh, how I rank them. Cause otherwise you just have them ranked.
24:48But, um, I, I think you're going to see, and you should Jackson's going to be probably around ahead of everybody else,
24:55but yeah, you can make an argument that Allen Jackson would be a tier by himself.
25:00Sure. All right. So what's, what's the best value Jackson for 39th, whoever you get last.
25:04Well, I don't know because like, I think Jackson's a lot better than Jalen hurts.
25:09I'm willing to take him two rounds earlier than Jalen hurts.
25:12Sure. Lamar Jackson, my case, he averaged 30 points per game.
25:16Two years ago was the best quarterback was arguably the best pick in fantasy.
25:20Then he was even better than that last year before he got hurt, scored more than 33 points in each of his
25:27first three games, bad game against the chiefs, got hurt, came back, did it again against the dolphins, then kept getting hurt.
25:34So I'm, you know, that's my case. You just got to worry at this point in his career, is he going to run as much, you know?
25:42So where's, where's the ceiling for him? Because as good as he is, as a, as a passer, I don't want to
25:49rely on him strictly as a passer. I need him to be a great rusher on top of it.
25:55So if we're starting to see a 500 yard rusher, comparatively to a 700 yard rusher, I think that brings them closer to the field.
26:02But you're right. I mean, look, when he hits, he hits big.
26:06All right. Next time. Mon can kind of let it out of the bag this week that last year in Baltimore, Lamar
26:13got, he hurt his right hamstring and it happened not while he was necessarily running, but just avoiding pressure and that he just wasn't the same after that.
26:21Yeah. And so hopefully that leg is healed up and he's able to plant on it.
26:26And that'll obviously improve his accuracy. I have no problem taking him as the second QB off the board.
26:32We have a question. Does the tier for QB change?
26:35If it's a six point per touchdown pass league.
26:38And that's what these tears are. Actually, we, we do base ours mostly on six point.
26:43All right. Tier one, Alan tier two, Jackson, May Burrow, Daniels hurts.
26:47Let's go to the next tiers. Tier three, Prescott, Herbert, Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, Herbert, Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Dave, I slightly disagree with the order.
26:55I would put Herbert ahead of Dak, but I would love to get one of these four quarterbacks.
27:00This is the next tier where let's say I just miss on those first six.
27:05I want to get one of these quarterbacks as late as I possibly can.
27:09So if I'm getting the last of these four and we're talking about maybe round nine, I'm pretty happy with that.
27:15I don't really think. Yes, but I think you have to go to round eight, maybe seven for these guys.
27:22Like, would you take the last of Prescott, Herbert, Lawrence, and Caleb in round eight or keep waiting for the next tier?
27:28If it's late round eight, I suppose it's fine.
27:31Jamie, are you comfortable with Dak? I mean, Dak's not going to make it till round eight, Herbert, Lawrence, Caleb in round
27:38eight, or, or just wait till the next year.
27:41I would wait till the next tier, but again, it's knowing your league, right?
27:45Because in the leagues that we play in, with each other, we know that quarterbacks are going to fall in the leagues
27:52that we see where there's, you know, people who don't do this for a living, they take quarterbacks a little bit sooner.
27:58So it's just a matter of, you know, what you expect and how you see the value come off the board.
28:05And just knowing that Jared Goff and Kyler Murray and Jordan love and the sliding scale love should be in tier four,
28:12by the way, that's, um, I haven't updated the latest, latest, latest, latest version.
28:16Um, but, uh, those type of quarterbacks will still give you 20 plus points per game.
28:21They may not give you 24 plus points per game.
28:24So it's just a matter of when do you think the cutoff is and how quickly do you want to wait till
28:31the next, or how long do you want to wait till the next year to get a guy that just has a little bit less of a ceiling?
28:39The cutoff is the most important point of all we've named 10 quarterbacks so far.
28:44Everybody should be comfortable with any of those 10, but if you start hearing the names that are in Jamie's next tier
28:51and you go, Oh, I don't know if I feel good about starting any of those guys, then you need to prioritize getting one of those 10.
28:59It doesn't mean you have to reach for them, but certainly when you get to this tier of a, for me, it's
29:06Herbert, Dak, Trevor, Caleb, that's when you should be targeting and just put the periscope up saying, all right, now it's the
29:13time for me to get one of these quarterbacks.
29:15Okay. Let's take a look at tier four. Then again, tier three was Dak, Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams.
29:21Tier four starts with Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy has been a top six per game, two of the last three seasons and 11th per game.
29:29The other season, Brock Purdy, Matthew Stafford, MVP last year, Jared golf, who we keep drafting Jackson dart.
29:34Who's just really fallen a lot. It's crazy. Kyler Murray, Bo Nix and Patrick Mahomes.
29:39Again, tier four is Purdy Stafford golf dart, Kyler Murray, Bo Nix and Patrick Mahomes.
29:44And Jamie, what's your message about tier four? It's great place to be.
29:48You know, if you're comfortable waiting for quarterback, it's going to be one of the best players.
29:53I think you get based on what their costs could be.
29:56So again, I don't know if there's consistent 24 plus point per game players here, but there are guys that have done it before.
30:04You know, golf was just short of that in 2024.
30:07Stafford obviously did it last year, but the two years prior was not there.
30:11Kyler's done it a couple of times in his career.
30:14Purdy's obviously done it a couple of times in his career.
30:17You know, I, my homes obviously has done it last year.
30:21Yeah. He's the one that probably makes me the most nervous just because again, the rushing is probably going to crater.
30:27And then you're talking about the guy that two years prior when he wasn't running as much was at 20, under 21 points per game.
30:35You know, he's 20 point something both those years.
30:38So I think again, the sliding scale being what it is, you know, just knowing what you're getting.
30:43And as I said before, I would put Jordan love in this tier because when he throws, uh, he has been very good.
30:50So 2023, when he only earned his career, that he averaged over 30 past attempts per game, he was at 23 points
30:57per game for over 23 points per game for the season.
31:00And if you look in his career, he's got 26 games with at least 30 past attempts and he averages 23 fantasy points per game in those outings.
31:09So when he throws, he's good. And hopefully that's going to be the case.
31:13Dave, do you have any, any critiques on Purdy Stafford, golf, dart, Kyler, Bo Nix, my homes and Jordan love.
31:19The biggest nitpick is Kyler who just hasn't shown us over the last few years that he's still capable of being better than an above average starter.
31:28And I know that he's tied to some great wide receivers.
31:31And of course I'm taking Justin Jefferson top 15 and I love the value on Jordan Addison.
31:36I'm just, I'm nervous with Kyler and I would not put him in the same tier as, golf, Purdy, my home Stafford.
31:43I also think Bo Nix who is in Jamie's tier.
31:46I think he's got some huge upside to love the addition of Jalen Waddle on that offense.
31:51We've seen some huge games from Bo Nix. And I think that team could really be humming this year on both sides of the ball.
31:59I really think that they're a legitimate contender and I don't think that they're going to be as run heavy as maybe we're expecting them to be.
32:07I think that they're going to lean into bow more than their run game, but golf is the one golf and Purdy
32:14are the two who have moved to the most for me.
32:18This, this whole training camp preseason the last month.
32:20I love Heath's argument for Brock Purdy, where you just take his career averages and you apply it to a higher passing
32:27rate and the end result should be really good.
32:30And if we're nervous about McCaffrey, then obviously Brock Purdy can step up.
32:34But golf to me is the biggest riser of all.
32:37He went counter from a fantasy afterthought with a high floor to maybe a top five fantasy QB because he's going to
32:44still have that high floor, but the lions defense is not improved.
32:47Secondary is in real bad shape. They've got maybe three good defenders to begin the year for, if you include their rookie pass rusher.
32:55And I just think that there's going to be a lot of high scoring games, little worried about the offensive line, but
33:01I think the lions can more than make up for it.
33:05They did last year golf to me as somebody who I think could be just one of the biggest steals on draft day.
33:12Yeah. Look, we still have Baker Mayfield, not on this list.
33:15We still have Daniel Jones, who was terrific last year.
33:18We have Malik Willis. We have Tyler Shuck. We're not going to get to everybody.
33:23We're going to go to running backs next, but last question, Jamie Purdy, Stafford, golf, dart, Kyler, Bo Nix, Patrick, my homes, Jordan love.
33:30That's tier four for you. Is this basically, are you saying this is the last group that you should feel comfortable with
33:37as your starting quarterback for your roster? No, the next tier would be, you know, so, okay.
33:42Um, you know, you don't want to have to rely on that because, you know, 12 team league, you shouldn't be, you
33:49know, having to draft QB 16, 17, 18, 19, whatever the case may be.
33:53Uh, you know, I think Baker's 21. Um, but that being said, you know, Willis could be the best running quarterback in the NFL this year.
34:01Shuck was great last year and Kellen Moore's history with quarterbacks is, is fantastic.
34:06And so I think you just got to understand, like, if you get to this point, you probably want to draft too.
34:12You definitely want to draft too. But if you, uh, if you're a little bit, you know, comfortable knowing that there's going
34:19to be a lot of volatility, then you, you wait as long as you possibly can.
34:24I just wouldn't want to wait too, too long for these, these guys.
34:28Okay. Let's go to running back tiers then. And we'll start right at the top tier one is Gibbs and Bijon.
34:35Tier two is Taylor cook, Chase Brown and McCaffrey.
34:37And yeah, if you're new to the show, we love chase Brown.
34:41Um, okay. I don't think any, any need to stay on that Gibbs and just, just for clarity.
34:47These are half PPR tears. Oh, okay. Good to know.
34:50And that's important because chase Brown, it seems, it feels like he's more valuable in PPR, but he still can be so good in half PPR.
34:58All right. Gibbs, Bijon one, Taylor cook, chase Brown, McCaffrey.
35:01It's here too. Let's see. It's here three Walker, Hampton, HN, Henry, Barkley, Gentie.
35:05So that's the top 12 that we've been talking about.
35:08Those first, uh, six on the first two tiers.
35:11Tier three is Walker, Hampton, HN, Henry, Barkley, Gentie.
35:14We think it's a good idea to get one of them.
35:17You don't have to, but try to get one and don't be afraid to get two.
35:22But the question is, Jamie is Ashton Gentie, excuse me, Ashton Gentie still in that tier with Walker, Hampton, HN, Henry, and Barkley.
35:29I struggled with it, you know, and the fact that he's expected to play week one, I think justifies keeping him in this tier.
35:36So this was basically the guys. I think originally like the first few times I did this thing, this is the third version of tiers.
35:44They'll be, this will just be up there. I'm not going to do a fourth version.
35:49The, it was easy to put Gentie with this group because these are basically the round two guys.
35:55I have him ranked 26th overall, you know, so early round three, and then there's kind of a big cutoff tier four
36:01has changed a little bit just in terms of the ranking.
36:05But I think just looking at, at Gentie, no matter how much I think we're going to say safer in early round
36:11three at this point, he's still going to be around to pick.
36:15Yeah. You know what? Let's look at the real time, see where Gentie's going.
36:19PPR. Oh, he's going, yeah, he's going 20th. He's already 12.
36:23I mean, these 12 running backs are other than Gentie, because people might be hesitant are just so predictable in terms of
36:30it, not necessarily the order, but those are almost certainly going to be the top 12 running backs taken in drafts.
36:36Certainly the top 11. All right. So then it gets interesting after that tier four, Javante Williams, Kyron Williams, Travis H and
36:43Deandre Swift, Europe, Jeremiah love and Brees Hall. I just can't do it.
36:47Um, Javante, Kyron, H and Swift, love Brees Hall.
36:50And the, the updated order now would be just Kyron behind Swift.
36:53So that'd be Javante, H and Swift, Kyron, love Hall.
36:56Dave, what do you think about tier four? It's probably the tier that we've come across so far that I've got the
37:03most disagreement with my, my tier would have Javante love Kyron and Travis H and, and I would not have Swift and Brees Hall in that tier.
37:11They're being the tier below it just because I expect them to split more and not necessarily be in run heavy offensive game scripts from week to week.
37:20That's literally, that's the difference. It's not a huge difference.
37:23I would say that those six running backs would be in a, in a, in a group for me, like in the
37:30rankings that you'll see, you'll see Javante at the top.
37:33You'll see Brees Hall at the bottom. It's not like I've got Quinshot Judkins in there, Scadaboo in there.
37:39Like those guys are going later. So I think that that's fertile ground for RB two.
37:44And you should feel good about any of those six being an RB two.
37:48I just think that the first four Javante, Jeremiah, Kyron, H and are a little bit better than Swift and Hall.
37:54The thing that I love about Swift is Mononga's injury.
37:57Like we don't know how long this is going to linger.
38:01And if it lingers into the midway point of the season or longer, he could be a top 10 guy.
38:07I mean, there's just that much potential for him in this offense.
38:11I'm worried that they're still going to use another running back.
38:14Oh, I think that they will, but I don't think that running back will be as good as kind of a non guy.
38:21And I was thinking, no, I'm with you. And I would be more excited.
38:25And I do have Swift ranked higher than Brees Hall and half PPR.
38:29So I don't, I don't have a problem with that.
38:33I just still think Swift's around four pick, not around three pick.
38:36And we know that Brees Hall is just a guy that Dave is not feeling this year.
38:41So tier four for Jamie is Javante, H and Swift, Kyron love and hall for Dave.
38:46I'll have a good week. For Dave who's Brees Hall.
38:49Yeah. Yeah. Um, for David is Javante, Kyron, uh, Javante, Jeremiah, Kyron, HN, Travis, HN.
38:54Yeah. And then Swift and hall would not be in this tier, but I'll tell you who would be in this tier.
39:01And we're going to take a break. And we'll come back with Sears five and beyond at the running back position.
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40:5916, 18 running backs, 18 running backs. Let's go to tiers five and six.
41:04Yep. Tricky part of the draft. Draft may be a part of the draft where you're going to like the wide receivers better.
41:11I think that's something to kind of keep in mind here.
41:14We're talking about DJ Moore, Devante Adams, Terry McLaurin, Parker Washington, Christian Watson going this range, but tier five.
41:20I was actually going to bring that up when you talking about tier four, because that was what, that's the group that
41:27Heath was talking about when he gets to that point.
41:30He still sees all those great wide receivers at the end of round three.
41:34It's true. However, like we love the wide receivers at the three, four term.
41:38We've been talking about it for so long. Those two, that group, like wide receivers, I want to say 13 through 18
41:45or something like that was so bad. Each of the last two years.
41:49Last year, it was Tyreek Hill. JSN was an amazing pick.
41:53Terry McLaurin, Mike Evans, Devante Adams, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Jr.
41:56DJ Moore, DK Metcalf. Yeah. So that's, and the year before was bad too.
42:00It's weird how that's worked out, but I mean, it doesn't mean, that doesn't mean it's going to happen again this year.
42:07All right. Tier five at running back, Bucky Irving, Quinshon Judkins, Cam Scadaboo, David Montgomery, Jadarian Price, Bejal Tootin, Bucky, Judkins, Scadaboo, Montgomery, Price, Tootin.
42:15I feel like this is almost like kind of a make or break group here.
42:19Like big, big outcome possibilities here. And like I've said it, I said it a few days ago when I was talking
42:26about Marshawn Lloyd, a lot of round five and round six picks are bad.
42:30I mean, I went back and looked at the last two years and there's just a lot of busts and you can
42:37still win your fantasy league, but the outcomes, potential outcomes for tier five, Dave seemed crazy high to me.
42:43Crazy, you know, wild to me. Irving, Judkins, Scadaboo, Montgomery, Price, Tootin.
42:47What do you think about that tier? I mean, it's just like any other tier.
42:51You can make the boom case, you can make the bus case, but it's a lot easier for people to see the
42:58bus case than the boom case for this tier.
43:01The only name that I don't think I heard was Romandre Stevenson.
43:05I think he's earned to be in this tier two.
43:08Otherwise, no notes. This is a good tier. Okay.
43:10And what's the difference, Jamie, between tier five of Irving, Judkins, Scadaboo, Montgomery, Price, Tootin, and tier six of Marshawn Lloyd, Stevenson,
43:17Jonathan Brooks, Tony Pollard, and Travion Henderson. More questions in tier six, still questions in round five, but more questions in tier six.
43:24And just, you know, again, Stevenson is ahead of Lloyd.
43:27So another update that you'll see on the site.
43:30I think just looking at the guys in tier six, like we are expecting Stevenson to be the lead guy there, but
43:37at some point, if Henderson starts to look better, he's going to play more.
43:41And if there's an injury, could we get a Wally Pipp situation?
43:45Because Henderson is so talented. Lloyd, the questions are obvious.
43:48We just don't know if he's going to stay healthy and will he be the guy for however long Josh Jacobs is out.
43:55Still a mystery at this point. Pollard and Brooks are the ones that probably make him the most queasy just because Brooks
44:02will see how healthy he's going to be. And will he hold off Chuba Hubbard, who is now healthy and trending toward playing with one.
44:09And the Titans just look absolutely awful. So we'll see how that plays itself out.
44:14I do think it's going to be more growing pains with the Titans as they get a little bit more comfortable with
44:21the able system, but to what extent you're going to buy into trusting Tony Pollard remains at BC.
44:26I mean, I see a comment here. Tony Pollard is the most useless pick you could have.
44:31Where is the upside? And I just want to say that I, he averaged a hundred yards per game in the final five games last year.
44:39He did. He, and he just, he's kind of like breeze hall and that he's been on these terrible offenses and hasn't
44:46had a lot of goal line opportunities. So the up, the up there, I wouldn't use the word upside necessarily, but the,
44:53the, uh, appeal is that he's, he could be the lead running back on a better offense and, you know, be a good RB too.
45:01I don't think he's got RB one upside, but I want to say like, like I miss the episodes where we could
45:07just talk about a group of players, like tier five and tier six for an hour.
45:12And if you have questions, I kind of want to do like a, just a YouTube only live stream.
45:18I'll talk to the producers about it, but maybe I'll do it tomorrow afternoon since we don't have a mailbag.
45:24No one has to be there, but me, whatever.
45:27But, um, I just, I know you have questions and I feel like I would, I would love to answer them.
45:34So I don't mind doing something like that. If, if anybody, if anybody's interested in that, I think the, the, the, the
45:40point I made in the draft tips, like about taking talent versus taking need, you get to this tier and someone like
45:47Pollard, you could throw the Steelers running backs in there, the commanders running backs in there, JK Dobbins, those types of guys.
45:54They're going to fill a role for your fantasy team.
45:57Their upside is capped barring injury to probably who they share their backfield with.
46:01So unless you don't need these players, like this is the point in the draft.
46:06You should be pivoting to wide receivers because the talent pool is so much better.
46:10And so again, your build matters here, you know?
46:13So like if you need, you know, you go hero RB or zero RB, you're looking at a guy like Tony Pollard
46:20because the floor is going to be probably safe.
46:23It's not going to be great, but it's going to be safe.
46:26The ceiling is going to be okay. It's not going to be amazing.
46:30You're drafting for ceiling. You're drafting Henderson, but the floor is going to be terrible.
46:35You're drafting the Steelers guys. It's going to be potential headache almost the entire season.
46:40If they're both splitting reps, you know, maybe there's touchdown potential one more, maybe there's more receptions for the other.
46:46You get the point. The commanders running backs, even Jordan Mason, there's, there's a cap ceiling here as long as Aaron Jones is healthy.
46:53So you kind of get to this point in the, in the rankings of like 26 through 30, maybe through 40, you
47:00know, where you, you throw in the guys like Blake Corum and you throw in the guys like, um, Mike Washington or,
47:07you know, these, these handcuffs that will play, but are never going to be consistently great.
47:12as long as the starter is still there. So you're going to have to sort of just judge how your build is
47:18going and how you want to sort of construct your roster and mostly construct your bench.
47:23So I think it's just like, if you have a volatile RB too, so like a good pairing, I think could be
47:30Bucky Irving and Tony Pollard, for example, because Irving, we just don't know how this is all going to work out in Tampa with Gainwell and, and Tucker.
47:39And is it going to be a committee or, you know, Judkins because of the offense that he's on or scataboo with these guys.
47:46So like, you want to maybe pair that with a safer floor.
47:50Whereas if you're taking somebody that has high ceiling already and our safe floor already, like Trevion makes a ton of sense
47:56to just put on your bench first or Lloyd first, because if those guys hit, they're going to be absolute studs.
48:03All right, we're going to move on here. Again, I'll just recap for those of you listening.
48:08Tier five was Bucky Irving, Judkins, Scataboo, Montgomery, Price, and Tootin.
48:12Tier six is Marshawn Lloyd, Ramondre Stevenson, Travion Henderson, Tony Pollard, and Jonathan Brooks.
48:16And we'll finish with these tiers. Tier seven and eight.
48:19Tier seven is a big tier. Both Steelers guys, Jordan Mason.
48:22I put Lloyd twice. What'd you say? I put Lloyd twice, apparently.
48:26Oh, wow. Yeah. I would love to drive Marshawn Lloyd twice.
48:29Rico Daddle and Jalen Warren, Jordan Mason, JK Dobbins, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, Kenneth Gainwell, Blake Corum, Rashad White, Mike Washington Jr.
48:36and RJ Harvey. I guess it's a little interesting to see guys like Rashad White and Mike Washington Jr.
48:41when you're in the same tier as Rico Daddle and Jalen Warren or Mason, I get, I don't know.
48:47It's a big tier, Jamie. Just give me your thoughts.
48:50It's kind of the blob at running back, right?
48:53When you get to this point in the draft, again, it's what, what makes the most sense for your team?
48:59Krosky-Merritt probably has a higher ceiling than JK Dobbins, but we don't know how that's all going to play out with Rashad
49:06White, most likely playing on passing downs. I think in PPR, you know, I gave this stat, I don't remember exactly, but
49:13it's like 63% of the running backs that have had 50 or more catches in the last five years have scored 13 or more PPR points.
49:21It's a really good place to be. And if you just go by projections, forget about whatever you think of those players yourself.
49:28If you just go by projections, Kevin Gainwell, I think on our side is projected for 60 plus catches.
49:34So that gives them an opportunity to be north of 13 PPR points.
49:38That's a free space to draft in this range.
49:40Rashad White has three seasons on his resume, three of his last four years with 50 plus catches.
49:46He's probably projected to be around that number. Again, something that you can hang your hat on if you're just looking for
49:53a floor with maybe a higher ceiling in case of an injury for both of the running backs out of them.
49:59And it's not just 63% for guys that have had 50 plus catches.
50:03It's like 65% for guys that have had 40 plus catches to score 11 or more PPR points.
50:09So the floor is pretty safe if you're getting guys that are just involved in the passing game.
50:14So I think that kind of matters in sort of how you view these guys, but just at the top, you know,
50:21the first four guys, if you were to say, here's the Steelers starter, that's probably two tiers higher.
50:26If you say that Mason is going to clearly be the guy ahead of Aaron Jones, at least one tier higher, you
50:33tell me JK Dobbins is going to start 13 plus games.
50:37He's probably a tier higher. So, you know, again, the sliding scale, I think you just sort of look at guys like
50:43Blake Corum and Mike Washington and even RJ Harvey.
50:46If you just want to wait, go next year and go to Jonah Coleman, like the Dobbins injury will open up opportunities for both those guys.
50:54And they may both benefit probably more. So Coleman from a carry perspective, Harvey from a total playing time perspective.
51:00But again, you're looking at just what these guys can do and how much they can help you or are just good
51:07bench options that eventually would become potential starters. All right.
51:10I'm going to make an executive decision. We're going to go back, go to wide receiver now here, because we're pretty late in the draft.
51:18And you can just read the tiers from Dave, from Jamie, from Heath draft strategies, go to cbssports.com slash fantasy.
51:24You'll see it there, or you can just Google it.
51:27So let's go to our wide receiver tiers here.
51:30Updated wide receiver tiers. Tier one is Chase, Puka, St.
51:33Brown and JSN. Tier two is Lamb and Jefferson.
51:36Dave, any issues here? I've got Lamb in tier one.
51:39I think he's worth a first round pick. I think that he goes behind the first four, but I see him and
51:45maybe it's more full PPR than half PPR, but still the catches are going to count for something.
51:51He's going to get a lot of them. He's going to get a lot of targets.
51:56He's healthy. I'm, I'm happy to draft CD lamb in the back end of round one.
52:01Okay. So those are the six wide receivers that you in some cases will certainly see or might see in round one, chase Puka, St.
52:09Brown and JSN CD lamb, whether he's in tier one or tier two, and Justin Jefferson.
52:13Tier three. Let's take a look at that at wide receiver.
52:17AJ Brown, Drake, London, Nico Collins, George Pickens, Chris Olave, and Rasheed Rice.
52:21Jamie, these are second round picks for you. AJ Brown, Drake, London, Nico, George Pickens, Olave, Rasheed Rice.
52:26They're second round picks for Jamie. Dave, are they second round picks for you?
52:31Brown, London, Olave, Nico, Neighbors are second round picks for me.
52:34Neighbors might actually be a third round pick. I think I'd put Pickens in round two, Neighbors in round three.
52:40Rice is like late round three, maybe even early round four if it's half PPR.
52:45I just don't see Rice the same way that everybody else does.
52:48And Jefferson is toward the top of this tier for me too, just because I'm not a Kyler guy.
52:54So if I'm not a Kyler guy, I can't be as bullish on Jettas as Jamie would be.
53:00Sure. All right. So a little bit of disagreement there, but AJ, but the guys that we definitely think are in tier
53:07three, second round picks consensus is AJ Brown, Drake, London, Nico, Pickens, and Olave.
53:11And Olave. And I, that's not my order, but it's close enough.
53:15Okay. So Jamie, I've got Olave a little higher.
53:17Jamie says yes on Rasheed Rice. Dave says no in, in round two, tier four, round three guys, Malik Neighbors, maybe Dave
53:24will take him in the second round. Malik Neighbors.
53:27It's third. Okay. Neighbors, Devante Smith, T Higgins, Lad McConkie, and Zay Flowers.
53:31I like Jamie, you know, breaking up this group from Garrett Wilson and McMillan and, and the, and DJ Moore and whatever,
53:38probably into your five, but yeah, Neighbors, Devante, Higgins, McConkie, and Zay Flowers that this is round three for you.
53:44Yep. Um, anything you want to say other than take them in round three?
53:48Like what makes them round three picks? I think in the case of all these guys, probably outside of Higgins, just because
53:55you've seen it more consistently from him when healthy, certainly when Joe Burrow and Higgins are both healthy.
54:00Uh, there's a little bit of change clearly, you know, so Neighbors coming back from the ACL is going to be the same guy.
54:08I haven't really seen him with Jackson Dart Smith without AJ Brown there.
54:12McConkie, new coordinator coming off a down season and Zay Flowers, new coordinator, and hopefully gets a little bit more touchdown production.
54:19So all of these guys have some level of questions, which is why they're not in tier three.
54:24Uh, but I think when you're talking about their upside, their potential and what at least they've done in one season or
54:31more, uh, there should be some, you know, I don't want to say safety, but they're, you know, you're, you're talking about,
54:38you go, uh, two receivers in your first three rounds.
54:41You can even go, I've seen it. I've done it a few times, you know, receiver, receiver, receiver.
54:46And this is your third guy. If you go two receivers in a flex or three receiver league, um, you go running back, running back.
54:54These are two guys that I would like to target if I can, you know, pull that off as well.
55:00But these are the guys that I'm taking in round three.
55:03If they fall to round four, cause McConkie's ADP is round four.
55:07Higgins is in round four a lot. Uh, it's just, to me, it's amazing value.
55:12Yep. Neighbors, Devante Smith, Higgins, McConkie's a flowers, David ever.
55:15She rice. I think in this tier, rice would be in this tier.
55:19Jalen Waddle would be in this tier. Okay. Garrett Wilson would be in this tier.
55:23Okay. Uh, then let's go to tier five. We might see those names in tier five.
55:28There's Garrett Wilson. There's Jalen Waddle. Also DJ more, Tedderall McMillan, a Mecca, Buka and Luther burden, Garrett Wilson, DJ more, Jalen Waddle, McMillan, a Buka, and burden.
55:37And Adams would be in this tier now when I update it.
55:41Okay. So I'll just say that then tier five, Garrett Wilson, DJ more, Jalen Waddle, Tedderall McMillan, a Mecca, Buka, Luther burden, and Devante Adams.
55:48Dave, what do you think about that tier? I think if it were my tier, Zay Flowers and Garrett Wilson would flip flop.
55:55I think Flowers is closer to being at the top of this tier than at the bottom of tier four for Jamie.
56:02But otherwise, I really like it. I think this is the group for high end.
56:07No, I don't know about high end. Medium to low end.
56:10No, medium wide receiver too. I had to think about it a lot.
56:14Oh, sound like a color commentary guy next to Jim Nance.
56:17McMillan, DJ Moore, Adams, burden, a Buka that, that group seems really solid to me as wide receiver twos to target.
56:24And I would go round four for most of those guys.
56:27Yeah, I think the, what, what you can say about tier four, which was the round three guys, which was like, not
56:34all of them, but Higgins and McConkie and Zay Flowers is that if you pass up on those guys in round three,
56:41you have a chance to get them in round four.
56:44The problem with the round, with the tier five guys, Wilson, Moore, Waddle, McMillan, Abuka, burden, Devante Adams.
56:49If you have an early pick in round four and you don't take one of these guys, you're probably not going to
56:56get them in round five based on average draft position.
56:59They're all off the board, like 50, 50 second ish overall.
57:03So if you like tier five and you have a pick in round four, late round four, you can wait.
57:09Maybe you can get Devante Adams or Luther burden or something like that.
57:13But early round four, you probably need to pull the trigger there.
57:16Otherwise, you're looking at tier six, which is fine.
57:19Tier six is good. If you're looking at the graphic, Devante Adams is in tier six, but Jamie already said he's in tier five.
57:27So tier six is Terry McLaurin, Jamo, which is James Williams, Parker Washington, Romo Dunze, Christian Watson, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Marvin Harrison, Jr.
57:34And Brian Thomas, Jr. It's a big tier. Jamie McLaurin, Jameson Williams, Parker, Washington, Odundze, Christian Watson, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Marvin Harrison, Jr.
57:41Brian Thomas, Jr. Yeah. Yeah. The round five and round six guys, you know, and Thomas kind of slips a little bit.
57:48So it depends if you like him in this tier or not, but I think just looking at it as these guys have so much upside.
57:56There's a lot of questions, you know, McLaurin now with Stefan digs and some offensive line concerns for the commanders, you know,
58:03the Jaguars guys and just how good Parker Washington can be versus where Brian Thomas is.
58:08And can he ever get back to that level?
58:11We saw it two years ago. Uh, Evans and his health.
58:14I think we've been all over the place with him.
58:17Understandably. So if he's 100% healthy, I'm sure Adam, you'd probably have him in tier five.
58:22So the, uh, you know, just sort of looking at this, this is kind of like the last group of, Hey, I,
58:29if I missed on receiver, this is the last kind of wide receiver too, that I'd be comfortable with or certainly not,
58:35not comfortable, confident in, I guess is the best way.
58:39Cause there's other guys you can still be comfortable with, but confident in knowing that, okay, these guys could still be 15
58:45plus 15 PPR points per game or more if things go right.
58:49Mm-hmm. I mean, I look at tier six and go, I don't agree with every single person in here, but like 95%
58:56of it, I go, I want to be in this tier.
58:59Like I want to get guys here. You know, we're still at the point where we've got very appealing wide receivers who could, you know, could shock.
59:07And I, it wouldn't be that big of a shock, but could be top 12 guys.
59:12It could be top 12, top 18 guys or something like that.
59:16Must starts. Not all of them will be, but we're hopeful here.
59:20You know, those late night knife commercials where you like, you see them like slicing through things.
59:25I haven't seen one of those in a long time, but sure.
59:29Yeah. No, it's probably cause you're not watching TV as much.
59:32This is an old head comment, but I would, if tier six were a cantaloupe, I would take a knife to this tier and cut it in half.
59:41I think McLaurin, Washington, Watson, JMO. I think they go to one half of the melon and then everybody else is on the other half of the melon.
59:49And I like that first half of melon better.
59:52So McLaurin, Washington, Watson, JMO. I like that for some, a little bit better than who, you know, the people that Jamie
59:59has there for me, it's like Harrison or duns, a Godwin Evans.
60:02BTJ is slipping for me too. Not even sure he belongs in tier six.
60:07If this were my tier six, I, I was a little bit impacted by the schedule talk yesterday with BTJ.
60:13But okay. Dave's going to cut up tier six.
60:16I did read that. If you eat sliced up cantaloupe, it could be very dirty, like sliced up fruit in general.
60:22Yeah. You know, food, some food health experts would say avoid tier seven to food.
60:27Health experts love tier seven though. I don't know.
60:29I don't know how much they love it. Carnell Tate.
60:33Good dude. I don't know if this is actually happening, but in the last two real drafts I've done, Carnell Tate has
60:39not been picked in the top 100. He's, he's moved down significantly for me, but, but too much.
60:45I think people are freaking out a little bit.
60:48Well, it's, it's, it's, I think probably put him in more realistic spot of where he should have been at the start
60:54of the process, but understanding that he's going to end up being a great value pick because of where you'll get him.
61:01He went after Casey Concepcion in a draft I did last.
61:05Yeah, that's ridiculous. No, I would do it. Okay.
61:07Carnell Tate, Cortland Sutton. I'm just going to make this our last tier, even though there are good players in tier eight.
61:14I'm sorry, but Carnell Tate, Cortland Sutton, Quentin Johnston, Jordan Addison, Michael Wilson, Stefan Diggs, Wondale Robinson, Dijon Stribling, and Josh Downs.
61:21Tate, Sutton, Johnston, Addison, Michael Wilson, Diggs, Wondale, Stribling, Josh Downs.
61:24David, what do you think about tier seven? I'm cutting up more melons.
61:28I think that I think Jamie could like better define.
61:31This is, I don't want to sound like I'm critiquing Jamie's tears because we all have our own separate process, but just
61:38as an example, my tier seven is four names.
61:41It's Quinn Johnson, Jordan Addison, Michael Wilson, Alec Pierce.
61:44That's it. And then my tier eight is four more names.
61:47Concepcion, Pittman, Tate, Josh Downs. So I, I just, I've got it broken down into just much smaller groups of wide receivers.
61:54And what that does for me is it actually pushes the wide receivers that some of these guys that Jamie has in
62:00his tier seven tier eight, just pushes them down into just like a bigger blob of, all right, here's guys that you're going to draft.
62:08They might be wide receiver threes. They might be on your bench, less excited about these guys than I am those who
62:15I'm prioritizing by putting them in smaller tiers. So I guess it's more of like a philosophical difference than anything else.
62:21Um, but these, when I see a lot of these wide receivers, most of them I look at and I go, Oh, what's available at running back?
62:30What's available at quarterback? I'd rather go in that direction.
62:33Okay. Jamie, any thoughts on tier seven? No, it's just grouping two rounds together, you know, so it depends on what you're looking at.
62:40And some of these, some of these names have moved around in the last few days.
62:45Okay. So like, I've got it to like one round for a lot of guys and you just put two rounds together.
62:52I mean, that makes sense. That's solid. I feel like Josh Downs is another guy that, and maybe I'm wrong.
62:58I mean, Oh, we're, we should be dip buying on Josh.
63:01Yeah. I was going to say that, you know, I've seen him go.
63:05Value is great. Yeah. We liked him a lot.
63:08Then he got this injury, but he appears to be totally back.
63:12Well, it's also the Keenan Allen sign too. Yeah.
63:15That doesn't help. If, if his role evolves, like there, there's a couple of ifs with Josh down.
63:20So I guess I shouldn't be too excited about buying the dip, but if his role evolves and they use him a
63:27little bit further downfield, and if he stays healthy, then we're right back to where he was two years ago when he's
63:34getting North of seven targets per game, North of 13 PPR points per game.
63:38And I don't know what round tier seven is for you, Jamie, but if this is round eight and downs is at
63:45the bottom of that list, I, I would agree.
63:47He's around nine pick. According to ADP Josh Downs.
63:50Yeah, I'm higher. Okay. Tight end tears. Updated tight end tears.
63:54Bowers and McBride in tier one, Loveland and Warren in tier two.
63:57How, how tempted were you, Jamie, to make four separate tiers with these four names?
64:02Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, look, I think when you get to certain points in tiers and in rank lists, like you
64:09kind of know what you're dealing with. So, yeah, you know, like what, we're just highlighting and separating just to, I think for our own benefit.
64:17But, but if you put Bowers and McBride in tier one, that would say to me that you'd rather have Trey McBride
64:23in round three than Brock Bowers in round two.
64:26I don't know. No, I have. Yeah, I guess.
64:29I mean, they're five picks apart. Yeah. And half PPR.
64:32That makes sense. Loveland and Warren. I don't think they really get drafted as if they're in the same tier.
64:38That's all. And they're not. So this would be one where I would disagree to.
64:43I think Loveland is in a class all his own.
64:46And honestly, if it were non PPR, I think Bowers is in the tier on his own and McBride and Loveland are
64:53in the same tier in that round three grouping.
64:55But since it's half PPR, McBride does get a little bit of a nudge there.
65:00And Loveland should just be, I, he's a late round three pick for me.
65:04I've taken him a lot there and I'm expecting a nice, a nice improvement in his numbers from last year.
65:10I, uh, I'm glad Caleb Williams did not hit him up the seam on what would have been like a 20 something yard touchdown in that preseason game.
65:19It's the only chance we have of him staying in the fourth round.
65:23Um, yeah, I haven't drafted enough Colson Loveland. I have drafted zero Tyler Warren, which is annoying.
65:28I don't mind it. I mean, I, I mean, I, I like just remember what he was when Daniel Jones was healthy.
65:35I know he's really good. Um, and they don't, I don't have Pitt and Pittman and all that.
65:41I just don't know when to take Tyler Warren.
65:43And that's for me, it's like round five, like kind of later in round five.
65:48I really like him, but I also really liked the quarterbacks there.
65:52So that's, I have trouble, Jamie drafting Warren. When do you take, I'll take Warren over the quarterbacks over burrow and on the quarterback.
65:59Yes. Over burrow. Yes. All right. Well, I'm not going to take him over Lamar Jackson.
66:04Fine, but I could take him over burrow. All right, let's go to tier three.
66:09So it's so tough here. Laporta craft pits. I was going to kill Heath last night.
66:13We're sharing a team and he drafted Kyle pits.
66:16I hated it. Laporta craft pits. Likely fits in a tight end premium league.
66:20Yes. I was so happy about it. You took it.
66:24I love it. If it's too, uh, I hate it.
66:27If it's Penix, I don't care. I love it.
66:29That is Stefanski. Okay. Yeah. I think it may end up being a good pick by Heath.
66:35Um, it's just that Kittle was available like five rounds later or something, but Ooh, uh, Laporta craft pits, likely Kittle Fannin.
66:41So that's a big tier there. Laporta craft pits, likely Kittle Fannin.
66:45Uh, Dave, what do you think? I think it's, I think, I think it's juicy.
66:50Oh, like a can and, and this is, this is a, this is where most drafters are going to land because not
66:56everybody's going to get one of the first four tight ends off the board.
67:01I can nitpick the order obviously, and pits would be lower.
67:04Craft would be higher. Fannin's at the bottom. We're at that point with Harold Fannin where he's at the bottom, of this tier, but still in it.
67:12And the, this is, I almost feel like this is the group where you go, okay.
67:17Uh, unless you feel strongly about Laporta, if you're Jamie or Heath or craft, if you're me or pits, if you're also
67:24Heath, you just, you wait till the end of it and you try and get one of likely Kittle Fannin.
67:30And you think to yourself, okay, maybe they don't have the same type of upside as certainly the first four tight ends.
67:37And maybe the guys at the top of tier three, but still they're going to be must start guys.
67:43You should feel good about using on a week to week basis.
67:47They won't be black holes in your fantasy lineup.
67:49You'll feel, you'll feel good about them. And they all should be in that range of 11 plus and full PPR, probably
67:56closer to like eight and a half, nine and half PPR, which isn't bad for a tight end one.
68:02All right. Let me just take a quick look at, at the real time ADP at tight end.
68:07And you tell me the best value amongst the players in tier three, Sam Laporta in round six, Harold Fannin and Kyle
68:14pits in round seven, George Kittle at the seven, eight turn.
68:18Um, Oh, I'm sorry. Tucker crafts just ahead of Sam Laporta.
68:21So they're both in round six. So it's craft and Laporta in round six.
68:25Yep. Fannin and pits in round seven Kittle at the seven, eight turn.
68:29Then can Kate and Kelsey, then likely in round, around 10.
68:33I love call him Isaiah. Lovely. Cause I love it.
68:36Fannin. Where the hell is Fannin? You did. I'm sorry.
68:39Yeah. He's in that seven range. My bad. All right.
68:42A little too soon for Fannin. Awesome value for likely.
68:45Um, Travis Kelsey and Dallas Goddard are in tier four.
68:48Are these the last two tight ends you want as your starter in a 12 team league?
68:53Yes. Okay. Kincaid's not there for you. Not as a starter.
68:57All right. Jamie has to bounce. I'm in there.
68:59I will just try to, um, it's just to show the next two tiers for the tier five is Andrews, Kincaid, Schultz, Juwan Johnson, Juwan Johnson.
69:07I did some week one research. There's some stuff I don't love about him in week one.
69:13If you really need a tight end, but there are some things I love, like they are, are going to be playing the lions.
69:20They're going to probably need to score a lot.
69:23The lions will have both of their starting safeties out.
69:26There were five games in which they were both out last year.
69:30There are two starting safeties and Kate Odden had like 75 yards.
69:33Terrence Ferguson had something, 60 something yards and two touchdowns, or maybe that was Colby Parkinson.
69:38Colby Parkinson had, it had a huge game and Colson Loveland had a huge game.
69:43So there's some reasons to like Johnson in a week one, Andrews, Kincaid, Schultz and Johnson are tier five.
69:49And there's a huge tier six. You can read it on the website.
69:53Um, Jamie has to go. I will just read a few questions here.
69:57Are we rapid fire? Are we all trusting too much in Caleb Williams?
70:01Way too bullish on these wides, the wide receivers and Loveland would probably be included in there.
70:06I think we're trying to collect pieces of a high powered passing offense.
70:10That should be a little bit better this year than it was last year.
70:14Second year in it for Caleb, he seems to have taken some steps to improve his, his completion rate and his efficiency.
70:21One of the ways he can do that is completing those shorter throws.
70:25That's great for burden. That's good for Loveland. Not as good for a dunze.
70:29Three of these guys in the first 70 picks may seem like a lot, but I, I, I feel like Caleb Williams,
70:36just like the playmaking ability that he's got can overcome a, a completion rate.
70:40That's not 65%. So if it's lower than 65%, but he's making some great off schedule plays, the receiver should benefit.
70:47Loveland should benefit. And he reminds me, or I should say Jackson dart reminds me of, of Caleb Williams.
70:52And I think that's a guy that I'm, there's a lot of similarities.
70:56Like Jackson dart is probably not going to wow you with his completion percentage, his mechanics, his footwork might be a little
71:03bit weird, but that this guy is so good.
71:06They're both so good at making unbelievable plays, extending plays and being kind of better than their baseline statistics.
71:12So I see dart as one of the biggest fallers since drafts began because giants have not had a good, uh, off season, basically our offense.
71:20And just think about what we saw from dart.
71:23Without neighbors, without, no, no, no, he got smashed.
71:25He got hit and went to the blue tent and everybody, nobody wants to draft a player who they think is an obvious candidate to miss games.
71:34Yeah, I agree, but it's too, among the quarterbacks, he's the most obvious.
71:38And I think we know that the giants do not want him to run as much.
71:43He's not going to run for nine touchdowns. It's nine.
71:46He, he, he ran in for touchdowns nine times.
71:48And a lot of them were in the red zone, but not many were near the goal line.
71:54And the giants have just overloaded on, right. They went, they went robust RB with their roster.
71:59And now they've got so many running backs that they don't need to use dart in that role.
72:05Just become, I think he's become a good value and I've taken him in a couple of leagues as a backup because,
72:11you know, I think it's just what we saw last year.
72:15There's obvious upside. And he did all of that without Malik neighbors.
72:19And he, by the way, he's done pretty much all of it in the off season, this bad off season without Malik
72:25neighbors, but okay, that's my giants thought of the day.
72:28I'm not going to read any more comments. Except for this one, because they're all keeper questions.
72:34Dan Schneier said that Adam cuts his sandwiches horizontally on beyond the box score.
72:38Hey, Dan, keep my name out your mouth, but I will.
72:41Yes, I do. It's boring, but I do cut them horizontally.
72:45I do see some good questions here, but I think what we'll do tomorrow, if you're watching live tomorrow, noon, Eastern Friday
72:51afternoon, September 4th, noon, Eastern, I will do a 30 minute Q and a, if it goes longer, great.
72:57If it, hopefully enough of you show up, but we can actually get 30 minutes, but I have all these notes in
73:04my notebook that I'd love to just talk about some of these players and some of the things that I'd like to share with you.
73:12So ask me about players. Don't ask me keeper questions.
73:15If you can avoid that, ask me about draft strategy, whatever.
73:18I'll do a 30 minute Q and a with you.
73:21Anyone from the FFT staff is welcome to join, by the way.
73:25So, uh, mailbag tonight, show tomorrow morning, Q and a noon Eastern tomorrow, Friday afternoon.
73:30Yeah. We will talk to you later tonight, I guess on fantasy.
73:33You guys are going to be ready for your drafts this weekend.
73:37Oh yeah. All right. See you later, everybody. Podcasts.
73:40Podcasts.
