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Power Hour 4! Ranking All 32 Teams with Bill Simmons

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1 hr 12 min
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Jul 27, 2026
Published
Mon, July 27, 2026
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Topics
A.J. BrownJoe BurrowLamar JacksonDak PrescottDeshaun WatsonDrake MayeJalen HurtsJosh AllenJustin HerbertAlvin KamaraBrock PurdyBryce YoungC.J. StroudCaleb Williams
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A.J. Brown

PositiveRole10:00

Mina Kimes emphasizes that the Patriots' acquisition of AJ Brown is significant because it solves their receiver separation problem. She notes that in Jeremy Fowler's top-10 rankings, Brown ranked 9th (lower than expected due to a down year), but his addition shifts the Patriots from "having nobody who could get open" to a team that must account for elite receiver talent.

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PositiveProjection39:08

Mina Kimes lists A.J. Brown (Smith) among the Eagles' blue-chip and red-chip talent as part of her argument that Philadelphia's roster is significantly better than market perception suggests. She projects the Eagles will reach 10–11 wins or 11–6 once the talent level is accounted for, indicating Brown is a cornerstone piece of the Eagles' offensive talent despite concerns about the quarterback and new offensive scheme.

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NegativeRole42:38

Mina Kimes references veiled AJ Brown shots in potential narratives about the Eagles' improved vibes this season, suggesting some skepticism about his role or fit despite the team's offensive improvements.

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Alvin Kamara

PositiveRole49:36

The Saints kept Alvin Kamara and paid him a little to wind things down, with no bad or angry vibes around the situation, suggesting continued role stability and team harmony.

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Brock Purdy

NegativeProjection17:30

Mina Kimes ranks Brock Purdy as the 10th best quarterback in the league, placing him on the same tier as Sam Darnold, Jalen Daniels, Bo Nix, and Jordan Love (higher). She notes that people get "mad" when Purdy is ranked too high, but she defends his ranking as reasonable and would prefer him over Caleb Williams for a full season.

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Bryce Young

NegativeProjection53:10

Bryce Young is identified as the core issue with the Panthers' inconsistency; the team would look like the worst in the NFL one week and then go toe-to-toe with strong teams the next, but "It was Bryce Young related and that's going to be the issue as always."

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C.J. Stroud

NegativeProjection16:00

Mina Kimes notes that she has CJ Stroud ranked higher than Nick Sabban personally, but acknowledges that the Broncos' superior offensive line is the differentiating factor between the two teams. She also cautions against over-indexing on Stroud's poor playoff performance, comparing it to how analysts quickly forget bad Justin Herbert games.

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Caleb Williams

PositiveProjection18:00

Mina Kimes states she would prefer Brock Purdy over Caleb Williams for a full season, but would rather have Williams if down 10 with 8 minutes left, suggesting Williams has higher ceiling/upside but Purdy is more reliable for sustained performance.

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Chris Olave

PositiveProjection50:15

Chris Olave is described as a "classic zag fantasy guy where everybody gave up on him and you just kind of swoop in and grab them"; he was big for Mina Kimes in her fantasy league with Danny Kelly and his high school friends, and is noted as "great."

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Christian Watson

NegativeBust30:49

Mina Kimes questions Christian Watson's durability and consistency, noting 'Kind of like him. I kind of like. But what evidence do we have that he can play six games in a row?' This skepticism about Watson's ability to stay healthy and productive undermines confidence in his fantasy value despite the Packers' investment in his contract.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveBreakout29:18

Mina Kimes expresses strong conviction on Colston Loveland, stating 'I would literally break my pinky finger to get Loveland in fantasy this year,' indicating elite-tier enthusiasm for the tight end. She notes the Tyler Warren versus Loveland decision 'flipped' from seeming like 'the dumbest decision of all time' to 'yeah, it actually probably take Loveland,' suggesting Loveland's draft stock and fantasy appeal have risen significantly.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeRole13:00

Mina Kimes criticizes the Bills' acquisition of DJ Moore, noting that Bears fans "were driving him to the airport" and "couldn't have gotten rid of him fast enough." She frames this as a red flag about Moore's fit or performance, suggesting the Bills may have inherited a problem rather than a solution.

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Dak Prescott

NegativeMatchup19:15

Mina Kimes identifies Dak Prescott as one of only four good quarterbacks the Ravens face all year, as part of her analysis of Baltimore's favorable schedule.

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PositiveProjection34:24

Kimes ranks Prescott as a top 10 QB, noting that the long-running debate over his quality (Prescott vs. Wentz discourse) has largely settled with consensus acceptance that he is good; however, she expresses skepticism about his playoff performance, unable to recall a single meaningful playoff moment despite acknowledging he destroyed the Buccaneers in 2023.

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David Montgomery

PositiveRole14:40

Bill Simmons notes that David Montgomery is "certainly better than everyone they had last year" at running back for the Texans, representing an upgrade in their offensive backfield despite not being a household name.

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Deshaun Watson

NegativeProjection56:30

The last time Deshaun Watson played football, he was 44th in the passer rating drop back before his Achilles injury; this poor performance is cited as a counterpoint to optimism about the Browns' talent level.

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NegativeProjection63:18

Watson was 44th in passer rating on paper drop backs before his Achilles injury, establishing a baseline of poor quarterback play that raises questions about the Browns' offensive ceiling.

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Drake Maye

PositiveInjury10:00

Mina Kimes argues that Drake Maye was not fully healthy in the final weeks of last season, which is "glossed over" in evaluations. She suggests his health status may have impacted late-season performance and that full health in year two could improve his trajectory.

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NegativeProjection55:10

Drake Maye was the second-highest scrambler in modern NFL history (top 25), and the Patriots tried to prevent him from scrambling because he kept taking head hits; last year he was nervous about scrambling due to coaching emphasis on "just go down, don't take hits," which may have led to carelessness with the football.

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Geno Smith

NegativeProjection57:15

Gino Smith is described as "marginally like competent" and was "really horrible last year"; Mina Kimes took "probably the single biggest L" on him, as he "suddenly turn[ed] into the worst quarterback of all time out of nowhere." However, she believes he will be better than at least a couple of the remaining quarterbacks on the team ranking list.

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J.J. McCarthy

NegativeBust42:49

McCarthy was touted by the Vikings coaching staff all last year, with the head coach discussing his zoom calls and daily interactions, but McCarthy "couldn't have been worse" in actual play; reporters later claimed the pick was entirely the GM's decision and the coaching staff had nothing to do with it, suggesting a significant disconnect between pre-season hype and on-field performance.

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Jacoby Brissett

NegativeRole48:45

Jacoby Brissett is holding out for the Cardinals, demanding starter pay while claiming to be the starter; Mina Kimes notes this is emblematic of the Cardinals' quarterback situation dysfunction, saying "there really is no sentence that better captures the state of the Arizona Cardinals right now better than Jacoby Brissett is holding out."

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Jahmyr Gibbs

PositiveProjection56:10

Jahmyr Gibbs is described as "a monster" by Mina Kimes, who is a fan of his play with the Browns.

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Jalen Coker

PositiveProjection52:28

Jalen Coker, a Holy Cross grad, was seen at the Bob Cousy event and expressed frustration about the Panthers' near-miss against the Rams, saying "we almost beat the Rams. Like we were right there. We should have beaten them." Mina Kimes thought the same way and believes the Panthers could have beaten them.

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Jalen Hurts

PositiveProjection39:08

Mina Kimes lists Jalen Hurts among the Eagles' blue-chip and red-chip talent, emphasizing that despite perception the Eagles will struggle, they have a lot of good players and likely the second, third, or fourth best offensive line in the league. She projects the Eagles will end up going 10–11 wins or 11–6 once the talent level is accounted for, suggesting the market is underestimating them due to lack of trust in Hurts in the new offense and concerns about quarterback play, but the underlying roster is strong.

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PositiveProjection68:20

Mina Kimes highlights the Eagles' back-to-back Super Bowl potential as a rare achievement, placing them in an elite stratosphere of NFL teams with genuine championship continuity.

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Jameis Winston

NegativeProjection64:05

Winston is compared unfavorably to other struggling quarterbacks; Mina Kimes notes that if dinging quarterbacks for poor play, Winston and Sanders are in the same tier of bad quarterback performance.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeInjury54:24

Jaden Daniels had a 16% scramble rate last year, the second-highest in modern NFL history (only Vick in 2003 topped it), which is concerning given his slight frame (appears to weigh around 175 pounds); Mina Kimes does not trust him to stay healthy and worries about his injury risk from excessive scrambling and taking hits.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeMatchup19:15

Mina Kimes notes that the Ravens play Joe Burrow twice in their schedule, identifying him as one of only four good quarterbacks they face all year (along with Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, and Justin Herbert). This is part of her analysis of the Ravens' favorable schedule.

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NegativeProjection44:09

Joe Burrow claims the Bengals are his best team yet in Cincinnati and the best team he's ever been around; however, Mina Kimes expresses skepticism about his durability, noting he has missed as many or more games than Lamar Jackson and has had multiple different injuries, making health a key concern for the team's 10-win potential.

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NegativeProjection67:30

Mina Kimes is emphatic that the Bengals will not make the Super Bowl, stating 'The Bengals are not making the Superbowl' and 'There's no chance. The Bengals will not make the Superbowl period.' This reflects skepticism about the Bengals' championship window despite fan optimism.

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Jonathan Taylor

NegativeRole51:09

Jonathan Taylor is on the Colts in what may be a contract year, which is noted as "a little concerning" for team stability, though Mina Kimes thinks the Colts will be fine overall.

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Jordan Love

PositiveProjection31:17

Mina Kimes expresses approval of Jordan Love as a quarterback, stating 'Of course. I do like love. I like love too,' in the context of evaluating the Packers' roster talent and competitiveness.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection13:30

Mina Kimes argues that Josh Allen is "kind of the equalizer" for the Bills despite defensive and offensive line concerns. She frames him as the primary reason to believe in the Bills' potential, even when other roster elements are questionable.

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NegativeMatchup19:15

Mina Kimes identifies Josh Allen as one of only four good quarterbacks the Ravens face all year, as part of her analysis of Baltimore's favorable schedule.

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Justin Herbert

NegativeMatchup19:15

Mina Kimes identifies Justin Herbert as one of only four good quarterbacks the Ravens face all year, as part of her analysis of Baltimore's favorable schedule.

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PositiveRole37:01

Mina Kimes highlights the Chargers' acquisition of Mike McDaniel as 'rocket fuel' for Justin Herbert, noting the addition of a full season of Hampton and the return of both starting tackles. She views the Chargers' offensive line as potentially very good and sees the team's ability to manage injuries last year as impressive, suggesting McDaniel's hire (positioned as a Josh McDaniels-level upgrade) combined with improved personnel could drive a significant team jump.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveRole5:00

Bill Simmons notes that Seattle is replacing Kenneth Walker, a running back they "had to keep our fingers crossed for four years" regarding health, with a Notre Dame running back (Zach Charbonnet) "that might actually be really good." This represents an upgrade in reliability at the position for the Seahawks offense.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeProjection43:07

Kyler will look good for three weeks while the coaching staff schemes different things for him to run around and do, but then opposing teams will figure them out and the Cardinals will go one and eight to finish the season, after which "we won't hear from them again."

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Lamar Jackson

NegativeProjection20:00

Mina Kimes discusses Lamar Jackson's playoff record as the key metric for evaluating his legacy, noting that "he just needs to do it" in the playoffs. She frames his situation as similar to NBA players who have circled round two/three but never gotten over the hump, with both analytics and film nerds loving him.

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NegativeProjection35:38

Mina Kimes notes Lamar Jackson's playoff record as a key judgment criterion for quarterbacks, acknowledging his high ceiling but expressing concern about his history of missed time—he's had multiple seasons where he's only played half the season, comparing his durability profile to Embiid with a dash of Mitchell. The implication is that while his highs are as high as anyone's, his availability and postseason performance remain question marks.

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NegativeValue48:00

Lamar Jackson was ranked 69th on the NFL player list, below Bo Nix, which is an absurdly low ranking for one of the league's elite quarterbacks.

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Malik Nabers

NegativeInjury55:45

Malik Nabers' injury status is concerning; the Giants say he won't come back until he's 100% perfect, and people are scrutinizing celebrity dodgeball games and noticing he's walking with a slight limp, which Mina Kimes does not like to see.

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Matthew Stafford

PositiveProjection6:09

Mina Kimes emphasizes Stafford's 2024 season as a "miracle season" given his physical durability concerns (bad back, bad knee), noting he was "awesome" despite these injury risks. She frames betting on the Rams as betting on Stafford's ability to repeat this durability and performance level, making him a key factor in the Rams' championship window.

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Michael Pittman

NegativeDepth Chart51:09

The Colts lost Michael Pittman Jr., which is a notable roster loss for a team that was "pretty good last year for eight weeks" before falling apart after injuries to Gardner Minshew and Daniel Jones.

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Nico Collins

PositiveRole15:30

Mina Kimes highlights Nico Collins as being "as good as any of the Broncos receivers," suggesting the Texans' receiver talent is competitive with Denver's. She frames Collins as a key part of the Texans' offensive upside.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeInjury33:25

Mahomes is returning from torn ACL surgery sustained at the end of the season; Kimes notes his scrambling ability was central to his greatness and expresses concern about his recovery after nine months, though she acknowledges he has historically bounced back quickly from injuries.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveProjection39:08

Mina Kimes lists Saquon Barkley among the Eagles' blue-chip and red-chip talent as part of her argument that Philadelphia's roster is significantly better than market perception suggests. She projects the Eagles will reach 10–11 wins or 11–6 once the talent level is accounted for, implying Barkley is a key piece of that offensive firepower despite concerns about the quarterback and new offensive scheme.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeRole13:00

Mina Kimes references the Bills' loss of Stefon Diggs in the context of their offensive weapons, noting that the team went from having Diggs to acquiring DJ Moore. This represents a significant change in their receiver room.

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Trevor Lawrence

NegativeMatchup19:15

Mina Kimes identifies Trevor Lawrence as one of only four good quarterbacks the Ravens face all year, as part of her analysis of Baltimore's favorable schedule.

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Will Levis

NegativeRole65:09

Levis is mentioned as the Jets' quarterback option; Mina Kimes states she doesn't mind Levis and notes there's a chance the Jets' offensive line won't be terrible, suggesting cautious optimism about the quarterback situation.

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0:30Power Hour. This is Power Hour 4. Last week I did the rankings, actually.
0:34I gave my thoughts. And this week, as promised, I am joined by a friend of the show, second appearance.
0:40It's been a long time. Bill Simmons. What was the first appearance?
0:44Was that during the COVID era? Because I don't remember anything in 2020 or 2021.
0:49I think it was during the COVID era. I don't even remember what we talked about.
0:54Zero memory. But I remember you did come on once.
0:57And it's been a while. So I'm hoping for the Simmons bump.
1:01The Simmons bump. It is a famous bump at ESPN.
1:04Yeah, I don't remember. I was thinking about doing a couple of NBA redraftables.
1:08And I apparently did like 14 of them in 2020 and have no recollection of any of them.
1:14So I'm going to listen to them like it's new content.
1:18By the way, if you are listening to this, this means our Rewatchables episode of Hitch has come out.
1:23So go check that out on the Rewatchables. That was a lot of fun.
1:28You know, inadvertently, you've kind of cornered the rom-com corner for us.
1:32I think you're gonna say the pickup artist corner because that's my now.
1:36Maybe that's your corner. Yeah, I got to get you on for like an action movie or a thriller or something to mix it up.
1:44So you don't get pigeonholed in the Rewatchables. I think Chris Ryan, Sean and I did The Rock without you, baby.
1:50No, I was on that one. Okay. Okay. So I've done one.
1:54Yeah, but I am always I love action movies.
1:57I love sci fi. I know. All right. Well, go check that out.
2:01You guys know how this one works. Uh, I give Bill two choices for every slot.
2:06He picks the team that just simply he thinks is gonna be the best, not the best record.
2:11So you don't get a divisional bump from being the NFC South or whatever.
2:16Uh, punishing the pats for playing a harder schedule, purely who you think is gonna be the best soup to nuts.
2:22I'm gonna start by giving you the same choice I've given everyone because I just can't find a reason not to give this choice.
2:30I think it would be disingenuous of me to start with anyone but the Rams and the Seahawks.
2:36Do you agree with that? I do. We should mention you tried to get me to do this before I had done any NFL prep.
2:43And you were like, it's fine. It's fine. It's like, how is this gonna be fine?
2:49This is you have a real podcast that runs on the channel.
2:52And I'm not just gonna come on and talk out of my butt for an hour.
2:57Like, let me do a week of prep. Why don't you walk people through your prep?
3:02Yeah, because you have a very, you have like a specific process you do every year.
3:07I do. I have a whole, it's, it's really kind of psychotic, but it's like a seven week process.
3:13I went to Hawaii with my wife. And, uh, like for three hours that I was going through, I like to type in the schedule.
3:21I actually type it in because it makes me think about the games and the matchups as I do it.
3:27Um, and then I do this weird player ranking system, um, which is my fourth year.
3:32And it's been pretty good with trying to figure out the best teams.
3:37I go through, I do by position. The Jeremy Fowler thing is really helpful with the top 10.
3:42Yeah. Where he does the top 10 for each position.
3:45Cause I have it anyway. And then I like to see what other people think.
3:50Those are good rankings. I mean, like everybody always craps on them.
3:54And then you see the NFL 100 and you're like, actually the executives and coaches do a good job.
4:00I'm not breaking these players because they're usually right.
4:03There's nothing perfect. And there's some weird ones. Like I still don't know what position.
4:07I'm in warrior is like, is he a cornerback?
4:10Is he a safety? I don't know. But anyway, that, so I do like a point system.
4:15I have quarterbacks. The highest you can get is nine points for quarterback.
4:20Highest you can get for safety is for, I do all this stuff.
4:24And it's really helpful. And the big takeaway for me to answer your question, Seattle, the Rams, Seattle has the most talent in the league.
4:31And I don't see the only scenario that you wouldn't think they're going to be the best team again, is that they won the Super Bowl last year.
4:40There's no other case. They have the best team in the league.
4:44They have the most talent. They have the most players that you would give points to.
4:49They have the best defense. I think they have the best coaching staff.
4:53I don't really feel like they lost anything. It's like, oh no, Kenneth Walker, who we had to keep our fingers crossed for four years.
5:01Is he going to play? Well, now we're putting in the Notre Dame running back that might actually be really good.
5:08Yeah. I think he's good. And I think I just don't see a scenario where they're not really good.
5:13Their schedule is harder. I get it, but they're really talented.
5:17This feels like appropriate time to disclose that you were higher on the Seahawks last year than me.
5:23However, conversely, I was higher on the Patriots, I think, than you.
5:26You remember, I like the Stefan Dick signing. No, that's not true.
5:30I was the highest, the teams I was the highest on were Seattle, Denver and the Patriots.
5:35Okay. And then everyone in the middle class, I screwed up, but I actually had the higher ends down.
5:41The Chiefs are what killed me. I just, the Chiefs, you pencil them in every year for 12 wins and.
5:48One and nine in one score games. All right.
5:51So you're taking the Seahawks over the Rams. I think the Rams have a way greater, like I always look at this
5:57stuff by bet your life on it. Right. Which Zach always gets mad at.
6:02Like don't bet your life on it. That's stupid.
6:05But it's like, all right, let's say I had to bet my life.
6:09I'm betting my life on the Rams with Stafford, who they got this miracle season from last year.
6:14Right. Where he was like, it's guys got a bad back.
6:18He's got a bad knee. Is he going to make it?
6:21Well, he was awesome. Devonta Adams. So I think it's 33.
6:2533. Um, and it's a top heavy team where they, and they do the miles, Garrett trade, right?
6:30They have like six awesome guys. But when we pencil this in and two gets hurt.
6:35Now I don't know. I have four awesome guys.
6:38I think Seattle can, they can withstand anything. So I think they're the best team.
6:43I love it. All right. The Rams are going to go up against a team that has been steadily rising every time I've done this.
6:51The Denver Broncos. Rams versus Broncos. Denver ranked very high on the, uh, on the rankings there.
6:56It's weird. There's a couple of teams from last year that the gambling odds are against.
7:01Um, yeah, I think it's the Broncos. It's the FBI.
7:04Doesn't like them. A lot of advanced metrics don't like them.
7:08And then I look at the roster and I don't get it at all.
7:12Broncos. The, I think the Eagles are another one where the Eagles who I think are, have basically brought back 90% of
7:19their team and everybody's like, eh, bad vibes. I'm out.
7:22Um, but I would have the Rams here just cause I think it's Seahawks one a Rams one B.
7:28And I think you can make a case for either.
7:31Um, listen, there's an Aaron Donald thing just looming.
7:34This is by far, you, you have to fill time on NFL live doing all these talking 10 minutes about the Ravens segments.
7:41And doing did Travis Hunter, what's it going to mean when he's playing cornerback?
7:46And you just like these things where you're trying to get content out of Aaron Donald coming back is the biggest story of the summer.
7:54If he comes back and he's the same guy that, you know, close to the same guy that he was, and he's
8:00going to be on the same line with miles Garrett.
8:04What is a bigger story than that? Do you know when Aaron Donald retired in 2023, he ranked first in pass rush win rate?
8:11Like he, there was zero decline. That's the crazy thing.
8:14Like most guys, when they retire, it's like over, he just walked away.
8:18And what if he's, what if he's just like, I'll just play half the snaps and I'm just going to come in
8:25and wreak havoc when I come in. And what if they get him on like a $5 million contract?
8:31So, um, I have real concerns about Stafford. Cause I think, um, you got the crap kicked out of him in Detroit forever.
8:38He has real physical injuries and you know, that's a dangerous position.
8:42All right. I'm going to throw a choice to you that I have not given anyone, but it's because it's you and
8:49I want to just feel it out and see how you feel.
8:53You know what I'm going to do here? Broncos pats.
8:56Get over it. So I have a couple teams.
8:59Higher than both of these teams. Okay. Um, I have Denver a whiff higher than the Patriots and it's only solely because of the Mike variable situation.
9:07That's it. Really? It's yeah. That's really it. Their schedule is harder.
9:11Fine. They still, if you look at the schedule, it's, it's hard, but it's not, but it's also not the point of this.
9:18You're, you're really thinking about the team. I've been saying all off season, the Patriots, I think are a better team, but
9:25might, might finish with a worse record than they were last year.
9:29Well, what would their 14 and three last year?
9:32I meant like they're a better team than they were last year, which everyone's like, what?
9:37I'm like, they clearly are a better team than they were last season.
9:41Right? No question. I thought they had a good draft.
9:44I liked the draft. Will Campbell's going to be healthy.
9:47Um, it's the second year where the guy where last year he's coming in, he's basically undoing all this Jared Mayo stuff
9:54and putting in his people and his coaches. And, and so now they know, and there's continuity.
9:59Uh, I still don't think Drake may was healthy for the last couple of weeks of the season, which we just gloss over.
10:07And that's fine. I know Drake may he's, he's replaced Josh Allen as the new, we're sure.
10:12Um, that's fine. You guys can do all that.
10:15Uh, Oh, I know. I see. I almost won the, I went down with the flames.
10:20I get so much. No, you guys. I'm helping you in.
10:23No, you're in the urine with the, you guys.
10:26Um, but their team is talent wise. They're definitely better.
10:29And the AJ Brown thing is significant. Like even that Jeremy Fowler top 10 thing.
10:34I thought he would be seven, eight or nine.
10:37Right. He ended up being nine, which I get cause he was a little bit off last year, but they went from
10:44having nobody who could get open and the Seahawks were like, nobody in this team can get open.
10:49We're just going to rush for guys and do whatever we want to.
10:53Now you have to worry about AJ Brown. I think that's a real thing, but you're taking the Broncos.
10:59I'm taking the Broncos because I thought they should have, they should have beaten the Patriots.
11:04Yeah. Better team. If bone next is healthy, they win the game.
11:08I, I I'm man enough to admit that. I think the Patriots probably honestly probably should have lost the Houston game.
11:15If Houston, if Stroud doesn't just completely poop all over himself in that game, Houston wins the game.
11:20I'm excited. And I think you can make a case.
11:23Houston was the best team in the AFC and that their quarterback just crapped the bed in the worst possible moment.
11:30But I think they were the scariest team. All right.
11:33Let's go stay in the division. Then who did you have for that one?
11:38Denver, the pets, Denver. Yeah. I mean, Denver said more town.
11:41They're just such a good team. Top to bottom.
11:44Um, all right. Also RJ, RJ, RJ, RJ Harvey and waddle.
11:47Second year, RJ Harvey. I think waddle. I think waddle.
11:50Waddle. So good. I, yeah, I think that's like kind of slept on a little bit cause it happened for the draft and everyone kind of forgot.
11:59It happened. Um, I think, well, think about last year, his quarterbacks were the corpse of Tua.
12:04Um, Quinn yours, Quinn yours, Quinn yours. Like, and he still put up stats somehow.
12:09So I think Denver has to be slightly over them, but I, I have another AFC team over both of them bills.
12:16Pats. No, no, we're doing bills. Pats. I had the pats over the bills.
12:20Okay. Tell me why. I don't see the bills thing at all.
12:24You in the commenters. They were, they, they keep saying I have the bills too high.
12:29What, what, what, what are you not seeing? What, what are you down on here?
12:34Name three people on their defense. Yeah. That you feel like can swing a game.
12:38The defense is they have good. Good. Everyone glosses over it.
12:42Great players. They don't. I had in my point system.
12:45Yeah. I had Russo and Benford with one point each.
12:48That was it. I don't know. I don't have any blue chippers or even, uh, red chippers for them.
12:54Offensive line is really good. Cook's really good. I DJ more like the bears fans were driving him to the airport and
13:01the bills are like, yeah, we got DJ more.
13:04It's like the bears fans couldn't have gotten rid of him fast enough.
13:08And it's the same thing as always with Josh, but I, McDermott, it was such a good defensive coach for them that
13:15I know he had to go and the, and the game stuff was unforgivable and it was time, but you know, Joe Brady's an offensive coach.
13:23Right. And in the building. So how different it is going to be really.
13:27Um, and it's a defense going to be fixed.
13:30The run defense was so bad. I, I, I get it.
13:34I just think Josh Allen is kind of the equalizer.
13:37I mean, you know, Josh Allen, who wasn't as good as Drake may last year.
13:42I don't get the case. I think there's better teams than the Pats, but it's not the bills.
13:47Okay. Well now I'm just going to try to guess that and stay in the AFC.
13:52It's a very AFC heavy, by the way. I'm looking at my, the NFC is very top heavy.
13:58And then the AFC I think has more top 10, like good teams.
14:02Um, I'm looking at two teams here and you mentioned one of them.
14:06So effort Texans. Is that your team? I have two teams over the Broncos and the Patriots and the Texans are one of those.
14:14Okay. So Texans are on the board versus the bills.
14:17Oh, we, the opener, by the way, this is the opening matchup.
14:20It's great. Texans. Um, I can't believe that the Texans defense, which was genuinely terrifying.
14:25Yeah. I would have the Texans over the Patriots, but you did the game this way.
14:30Um, the Texans brought back all 11 guys on defense.
14:33Yeah. Like they didn't even go like 10 for 11.
14:36They're like, all 11 are coming back and we got blank and shit.
14:41Yeah. Okay. That seems scary. Yeah. Um, but you did say something about the quarterback earlier.
14:46Right. Well, they, their wide receiver crew is going to be a lot different.
14:50I always liked David Montgomery. I know you're not telling your grandkids about him, but he's certainly better than everyone they had last year.
14:58And I think their offensive line is going to be for the ninth straight year.
15:02The question. Yeah. It's like, will they be able to block?
15:06Um, I don't know what to make a Stroud.
15:08He, this could be one of those things where he's not the quarterback in week nine and I wouldn't be shocked or
15:15he could have a huge comeback year. He's going to be the, but I think the rest of the team is so good.
15:23I think they're gonna be, and then fair Baron on top of everything, like their special teams are good.
15:29Like everything's good except the offensive line and the quarterback.
15:32So who knows? It's funny. Cause the more I thought about like the Broncos, I keep, I have over the Texans every time I do this.
15:40But then when I take a step back, I'm like the Texans defense is actually better than the Broncos defense.
15:46Right. The use Nico Collins is as good as any of the Broncos receivers.
15:51Yeah. And they've spent what? Three second rounders on wide receivers other than Nico Collins.
15:55And then I like, I have CJ Stroud over Nick's personally.
15:59It's just the off the Broncos offensive line is so good.
16:02Uh, that's kind of the differentiating factor for me, but like, I think you can make a case for Houston.
16:08I feel like everyone's just kind of over indexing on the last time we saw CJ Stroud and like, you know, hard to shake, which is weird.
16:17Cause we get amnesia with every bad Justin Herbert game.
16:20It's like, they just come and go. And we don't remember any of them.
16:24And then the list come next year. And it's like, Justin Herbert's amazing.
16:29But CJ Stroud is going to wear that game.
16:31I, you know, I really, I stay away from everything.
16:34Cause I'm in basketball mode. And then I throw myself into the prep.
16:39I was honestly shocked by the Houston gambling numbers.
16:41Like they're over under is nine and a half.
16:44Really? Yeah. Like Houston can't go 10 and seven.
16:47I that's insane to me. They're plus one 35 for the division.
16:51I think people like the Jags. And I think that's part of it.
16:55Who we're going to get to in the top half.
16:58Cause I think Jags are kind of looming. Um, all right.
17:01So the bills remain on the board and I'm going to go back to the NFC and put them against the 49ers bills versus 49ers.
17:09Uh, I still have the 49ers over the bills.
17:12Okay. Yeah. I'm lower on the bills than everybody in that.
17:16Um, 49ers, you know, you could have them third.
17:18You could have them ninth. Who knows? Are they just going to have a ton of injuries for the 19th straight year?
17:25I'm a way bigger Purdy guy than most. I think Purdy's good.
17:29Um, I, I think it's really weird. Like even when I do, I'll do my QB tears for a podcast in August
17:36every year, which everybody does, but I have to do mine.
17:39And then people get mad when Purdy is too high.
17:43It's the only guy. How high do you have him?
17:46Purdy? I, I have him. Let me see. I have him pretty high, like higher.
17:50You'd be, how high do you have them? Okay.
17:53Well, let me just throw out some quarterbacks and tell me if he's higher or lower.
17:58Purdy. Is he higher than Sam Darnold? I have him on the same tier as Sam Darnold.
18:04I'm on the same tier as golf, Jaden Daniels, Nix and, and, and, uh, Darnold.
18:08Jordan love. I have love higher. Okay. This is reasonable.
18:11Thank you. Yeah. I was fine then. I, but I think Purdy's like the 10th best quarterback in the league.
18:18Would you rather have Purdy or Caleb Williams? Aggregators.
18:21I'd rather have Purdy. I'd rather have Purdy. Bears, Bears aggregators are aggressive.
18:25Every year there's like a quarterback who the fans are very aggressive about.
18:29We have this, we have this in basketball too.
18:32I'd rather have Purdy for the season. I'd rather have Caleb Williams if I was down 10 with eight minutes left.
18:38I'd rather have him than any quarterback in the league.
18:41I think that's a fair answer. All right. Yeah.
18:44The bills keep falling. I'm going to go back to the AFC cause we haven't gotten, there's two teams that I, there's two teams.
18:52I think you might've been talking about. Let's go.
18:54I'm not going to do the one with the quarterback that you alluded to perhaps snidely earlier.
19:00Let's go Ravens here. Yeah. I had the Ravens as the other one.
19:04Part of it though, is the part of the rankings is the schedule.
19:08Um, I actually liked their schedule this year. Um, and that was one of the reasons I they're the favorites in the AFC right now.
19:16And I think that's great. I think it's partly schedule related.
19:19They have, um, let me see this. Yeah. They, they play AFC South NFC South.
19:24If you look at their first seven, like they're pretty easily going to be six and one, um, last five could also be easy.
19:31They only play, they play burrow twice, Dak, Josh, Trevor Lawrence, and Herbert.
19:36Those are the only good quarterbacks they play all year.
19:39So there's good schedule stuff with them. Um, but I don't know.
19:42I don't, I don't know. They, you know, new coach.
19:46I was never a hardball guy. So you could talk me into the new coach actually being better than I love the new coach.
19:53I, I, I don't know. I haven't checked the coach of the year odds, but that's my guy for coach of the year already.
20:01I'll tell you, I would, I would put it on him.
20:04I think the charge defense was so much better than they had any right to be under him.
20:10I agree. Um, yeah. So there's a chance he could bump them up and then we're, you know, there's been NBA players like this.
20:17See Lamar is kind of, we're almost there. Like, is this happening or not?
20:22Who's the, who's Lamar Jackson? Now here's really where you get aggregated.
20:25Who's the Lamar Jackson of the NBA? This would be a great get up topic.
20:30Who's the Lamar Jackson, the NBA? Well, it's gotta be somebody that has, has circled round two, round three, but never gotten over the hump.
20:38Someone who like the analytics nerds and the film nerds both love.
20:42Right. Cause like all the nerds, and I know you listen to a lot of nerds all love Lamar.
20:48I know. Um, it's, it's in Donovan Mitchell territory.
20:51Hmm. You know, he's never made the finals. He is considered to be one of the 10 best players in the league.
20:57It's unclear if he could be the best guy in a finals team, but he's has all NBAs.
21:03He has the whole thing. I, the only difference is he's not good enough to be the MVP of the league.
21:10Yeah. I was gonna say that feels a little difficult to Lamar.
21:13I feel like it would have to be someone a little bit better.
21:18Yeah. So you, but there is really no comp.
21:20It would almost have to be like. Everyone else in that tier has won the championship.
21:25Honestly, it would be Embiid if Embiid played all the time where Embiid has the MVP.
21:30Yeah. He's never gonna pass round two. The highs are higher as high as anyone.
21:35I like that one. Actually the Embiid's not bad because.
21:38Yeah. Cause Lamar has missed how many seasons where he's like only played half the season.
21:43He's had a couple of them. Yeah. So it's like Embiid with a, with a little dash of Mitchell.
21:49I don't know. But I like Lamar. I just, you know, I, I think the playoff record at some point, that's how
21:56we judge quarterbacks and he just needs to do it.
21:59So Ravens over bills. Oh yeah. That's like, I, that's not even close.
22:03The bills are dropping. The company. They should drop.
22:06All right. God, I'm, I'm looking at my list and it's still AFC.
22:10I'm going to, all right. I'm going to do, I'm going to bring in the quarterback.
22:15Do it. Do it. Chargers. Chargers. Chargers versus bills.
22:18I had the chargers over the bills. Okay. Wow.
22:21Yeah. Oh wait. So I know you were, you were joking about Herbert earlier, but do you not think giving him Mike McDaniel is like rocket fuel?
22:29I had a full season of Hampton. And how about having your two tackles back?
22:34Um, I haven't made real decisions yet. Cause it's worth taping this.
22:38It's the end of July. It's not even the end of July.
22:42It's the last 10 days. The chargers check a lot of my boxes for making a jump because I thought what they
22:49did last year with all the injuries was really impressive.
22:52Yeah. And then they had the bad playoff loss, the three off the scent.
22:56They brought in McDaniel as, as like the Josh McDaniels kind of upgrade.
23:00Um, and I think their offensive line might be really good.
23:04I'm not sure about the defense and then losing the DC.
23:07I don't think that, that makes me nervous. Yeah.
23:10They had Greg Roman. Where? No, I was, uh, Greg Roman was the most pre-fired offense.
23:15You know, when like, he's an offensive coordinator and you're like, they're pre-fired.
23:19Like you already know you give it like a year max.
23:22Right. But so we'll see what the defense, but I, I, uh, okay.
23:27You're going to have my eye on them. Yeah.
23:29A lot of people do. This is a lot, a lot of disarming amount of chargers buzz, which is never a good thing.
23:37Um, okay. I'm going to bring in the NNFC team now because I've done so many AFC teams.
23:42Let's go bills versus you mentioned them Eagles. I, that to me, this is a no contest.
23:48The Eagles are a much better team. Um, I was stunned when I did the player rankings.
23:53Cause I think the, the perception is the Eagles are going to be a mess this year.
23:58I don't know. They have a lot of good players.
24:01Like I can list some of them hurts. Barkley Smith got her.
24:05They probably have the second best offensive line in the league or third or fourth, somewhere in there.
24:11Carter Davis bond, Reinhard, uh, John Mitchell. They half the team is like blue chippers or red chippers.
24:16So why are they going to go nine and eight interceptions or something?
24:20Um, because people don't trust the quarterback and he's in a new offense.
24:25That doesn't worry you at all. They're just going to run the ball and have the same boring offense.
24:31They always had, they go 12 and four, 12 and five every year.
24:35Okay. One more point. Did you see the athletic story today that Nick Sirianni is using chat GPT to connect with his players?
24:42And does that change your mind? I like it.
24:45He needed to do something. The other connections weren't working.
24:48Like at least he's going to the drawing board.
24:51Uh, I just Philly's at some point when you have a lot of talent, you're going to end up going 10 and
24:58seven or 11 and six and we're gonna have tanking teams this year.
25:02And all right, you know, I don't think their division by the way, the Cowboys, maybe we do this every year with them.
25:09I know you have to do, I don't know what's contractually like four NFL live segments a week on the Cowboys.
25:15Is it every day or every other day? What do you have to do?
25:20Actually 1.5 a day. Yeah. Yeah. So now we have to talk ourselves into them being a Superbowl contender.
25:26Um, but I don't think Washington's going to be good.
25:29I don't think the giants are going to be good.
25:32So, um, not too bad. Yeah, no, I mean, I like the Eagles.
25:36There's other, they're being given to you as a choice or a reason.
25:40I don't know if I'd have more of the bills.
25:43The bills are dropping big time. This will be, could you, could you see like the Eagles start out three and O
25:50and then I don't know who writes the story, but maybe somebody in the athletic of like the vibes are so much better this year.
25:58And it's a lot of like veiled AJ Brown shots.
26:01They're already doing it. It's already the vibe. I better without it.
26:05There's some, there's some Ewing theory potential with him, even though they want to title.
26:10Yeah. Um, I think I like everything they've done on offense.
26:13I just don't know if I got to see it with the quarterback to feel good about it.
26:19Uh, cause it's going to be so different, but, uh, okay.
26:22The bills remain a choice and I am going to put the bills up against a team that I have been referring to as the Cowboys North.
26:31Hmm. The Cincinnati bangles. Yeah. You finally did it.
26:34You found a team. I would put the bills over.
26:37I don't understand the bangles thing at all. People are buying it though.
26:41People are in on it. I think you're, I think you're kind of buying it.
26:45Um, no, you're buying a little, I see the gleam in your eye and NFL live and HD when they come up, I see a little twinkle.
26:54I am very skeptical still of the run defense and I have the Ravens over them still in the division.
27:00So, but I think. I'm going to lean in it kind of leading the train.
27:05Can I be skeptical of another thing? Yeah. Now I wonder, is it burrow?
27:09They can't block for like the fifth straight year.
27:12What's good about their offensive line? What's changed? I think it'll be better.
27:16Why? What are the reasons? I genuinely think it's improved.
27:19I'm more skeptical of the defense. I think the run defense is still going to be bad even with Dexter Lawrence.
27:26So, but Joe burrow says his best team yet in Cincinnati.
27:29It's the best team he's ever been around. Uh, let me tell you, Joe burrow has been really dining on that one Superbowl appearance and that one.
27:38When when my home is trying to get you to do it, my homes definitely got concussed in the second quarter and
27:45there's no way the chiefs lose otherwise. And Joe burrow has been dining on it ever since.
27:50Um, I just think let's see him stay healthy and can they win 10 games?
27:55The health is big, right? Because we talk about Lamar's health burrows missed.
27:59I think as many games, if not more. So he's had a lot of different injuries too.
28:04Yeah. I would call him Mr. Stable off the field either.
28:08I don't know. Am I just a little dubious of the bagels?
28:11All right. Well, the bangles remain an option. The bills finally came off the board.
28:16I'm going to go bangles versus bears. Hmm. I don't know how to feel about the NFC North.
28:22I told you this. I feel very mixed. I have the bears over them from a talent standpoint.
28:27There's a lot of regression things with them. I get it.
28:31We've been studying regression for 15 years. It's pretty accurate.
28:34Most of the time I get all the cases for them, but, um, one thing I like about them, they've, they've had
28:41a lot of draft picks the last couple of years.
28:44And I usually feel like that's a good indicator for, um, I don't like a team like Washington last year was an
28:51obvious regression, but they also, they were an older team.
28:54Yeah. You know, they had real holes. The schedule is going to be harder.
28:59Like you could see it. I think the bears have a lot of talent, you know?
29:04And especially like, I know Bert. Yeah. I know burden is going to be the sexy fantasy guy.
29:09I know on the, on our fantasy show, I think Craig and the Danny's are fist fighting over him, but, um, you know, and then Loveland comes on.
29:18Oh, Loveland. I would literally break my pinky finger to get Loveland in fantasy this year.
29:23I think it's weird that the Tyler Warren versus Loveland thing kind of flipped where it seemed like the dumbest decision of all time.
29:31And then by the end of it, it's like, yeah, it actually probably take Loveland.
29:35Um, I think the bears are good. I, I, I think the NFC North is a nightmare to figure out.
29:42I have no idea what to do. All right.
29:44Well, let's bring in another one. Packers, Packers versus bangles.
29:47Another, I don't know if I'm going to go bears or Packers to win the north, but it's probably gonna be one of the two.
29:55I had on the same tier, the bills, the bears, the Packers, and one other team you haven't mentioned yet.
30:02And all of them above the, of the bagels.
30:04Okay. To me, the Bengals are eight, nine or nine and eight.
30:08Like always. Yeah. Okay. Well, uh, Packers get penciled in.
30:11Also, everyone forgets the Bengals are cheap. Like they're, they just throw 40, $50 million of spending every year away.
30:18By the way, so the Patriots, but, um, but that, that's another thing.
30:22So they're so beholden on health. You, uh, you worried about the Micah Parsons injury or.
30:27Yeah. And even yet. I also, I, I gotta say, I don't, I rarely have opinion.
30:32Obviously I have opinion on every NBA contract. Cause I feel like.
30:35Yeah. I rarely have opinion on NFL contracts. Cause I don't understand them.
30:40And it just feels like we'll give you infinity dollars for 15 years.
30:44And that just. 20 void years. And everyone's like, why did the Eagles keep getting away with this?
30:49Right. With that said, the Christian Watson contract was just bizarre.
30:53Kind of like him. I kind of like. But what evidence do we have that he can play six games in a row?
31:00And yet you think they're better than the Bengals.
31:03Well, I liked, I liked Matthew golden. I thought they misused him last year.
31:07I, I watched a lot of Packers. I had him on multiple fantasy teams.
31:12I just didn't understand that. Why they used them the way they used them last year.
31:17And you like love. Of course. I do like love.
31:20I like love. I like love too. All right.
31:23I'm going to bring in a team here. This is the earliest I brought them in, but I just did their divisional preview.
31:30And in that process, I found myself really second guessing why I've been so low on them.
31:35And that's the Kansas city chiefs. Okay. Like the chiefs with Patrick, my home is do we really think is going to
31:42finish as a below average team again up again.
31:45We're putting them up against the Bengals as a reminder.
31:48The chiefs who reminder went one in nine in one score games, which is like never happened.
31:53I have them slightly above the Bengals. Okay. So chiefs.
31:56I need to sort, I need to do more research and sort my feelings out better on the chiefs.
32:02They've missed a lot of draft picks. They've had a lot of off field stuff.
32:07And I thought Andy Reed was just coaching last year with a zip lock bag around his head.
32:13I don't know what he was doing last year.
32:16And that team on and off the field was a complete mess and he took no crap for it.
32:22Um, I just don't. And then they bring back the enemy, which I thought was weird.
32:27It just, I was there for the end of the Patriots dynasty.
32:30And let me tell you, I mean, it wasn't fun.
32:33Um, it's, it's a little shades of that where you're grasping at straws.
32:38You're, you're, you're grab bringing in kind of shaky character guys.
32:41Any internal dissent stories from the chiefs, which remember when the Patriots thing was, I, I have you seen Seth Wickersham around Kansas city?
32:49No, no. Where is, where is he though? That would be a good, I would add him to my life three 60
32:55just to know what he's up to. What team, what team and player and coaches you following?
33:01Yeah. I don't know. The chiefs, they had the worst luck ever last year.
33:05And usually that flips, but then you look at the schedule and it's like, as usual, they have the worst schedule possible
33:12and they're playing every day of the week and night games.
33:16And they're out there traveling. They're all over the place.
33:19And you know, by the way, and I know you've, you've talked about this a couple of times on NFL live.
33:25Mahomes is coming back from torn ACL surgery. We're glossing that over.
33:29Like he hurt his knee at the end of the season.
33:32Every time he gets injured, he's, I know you're right.
33:36It's I am. He got injured in the summer.
33:38I know, but he comes back and he's always fine.
33:42It's weird. He's like, I felt like his scrambling was such a big part of why he was great.
33:48Yeah. And you're bringing him back after nine months.
33:50We Adrian Peterson did it, I guess, but. All right.
33:53The bangles remain on the board and let's do it.
33:57Let's do the bangle. Let's do the evil twin matchup bangles versus Cowboys.
34:01They are the same team to me. I have them right next to each other.
34:05I think they are the AFC and the NFC version of each other.
34:10I like the Cowboys a little more though. Really?
34:12Yeah, I do. I do. I'm a little higher upside, a little harder to play.
34:17Um, and, um, a little bit easier of a schedule in my opinion.
34:21Do you feel like the Dak Prescott wars are over?
34:24Like you remember, it used to be every time.
34:27We joke about like ESPN and Cowboys, but like so many, how good is Dak Prescott?
34:32Is it, do you remember Dak Prescott versus Carson Wentz?
34:35Like commanded 80% of the football conversation for years.
34:38And now it feels like everybody just admits he's good.
34:41Like he's not that divisive anymore. Do you really want him to know my thoughts on this?
34:47Yeah, I do. I have him as a top 10 QB.
34:50Okay. I literally can't remember a single playoff moment that he's had.
34:54He destroyed the Bucks. I was there. How many years ago is this?
34:58Uh, 2023. Okay. It was after the Bucks won the Super Bowl.
35:02I do not trust him in January. Regular season sounds great.
35:05Can you throw for 4,800 yards for me and 40 touchdowns?
35:08Cool. I don't know if I trust him when we get to January.
35:13Um, all right. Bengals versus Jags, who I probably should have.
35:16I kind of wish I had them higher. They kind of slipped because I was trying to provoke.
35:22I had the, I had the Jags higher than them.
35:25The Jags are hard one. Cause they're like two teams last year, right?
35:29They're the pre week nine Jags. And then, yeah.
35:32Then afterwards they become the 99 Rams. Um, They were awesome in the second half of the season.
35:37Like legitimately great. I bought in, I bet on them and pick them over and over again down the stretch.
35:44And then the playoffs, they just kicked everybody right in the protector cup.
35:48It was just awful. I'm so mad. I still can't believe they lost.
35:52All they had to do was run the ball.
35:55I don't know how they lost to Buffalo. I don't, I honestly don't.
35:59Those could not. That was a miracle. HM was getting like seven yards to carry.
36:03Well, the thing with the, this is one of the reasons I'm down on Buffalo.
36:08I don't even think they should have gotten out of that Jaguars game.
36:12Right? Yeah. The run defense was really, really bad and I don't know how much better it's going to be, but they just blew that game.
36:20That made me so mad, but listen, Lawrence will see it in the playoffs, but he at least proved that he's can be a regular season guy.
36:29And the, the Thomas piece will be the kind of swing piece.
36:33I feel like because they lucked out with Washington.
36:35They traded for Myers. And if Thomas is good, like they could actually be like kind of terrifying.
36:41I don't love that. They lost a ETN, but cause I thought he was coming on down the stretch, but we'll see.
36:48All right. Last pick of the first half bangles versus lions.
36:51The little are the, I think the lions are the favorite to win the NFC.
36:56We're talking about odds that are totally like the, that's the one where every time I look at it, I'm kind of surprised.
37:03I have the lions three levels higher than the Bengals.
37:06And in fact, the lions, I would have introduced them eight teams ago, if I were you.
37:12So you have, where would you looking at this list chargers?
37:15Would you have them above the Eagles? I have the lions in the top eight.
37:20Wow. Okay. Tell me why I'm an idiot. Cause I'm so.
37:23No, no, no, no. But that, but you, you told me schedule doesn't count.
37:28I think for me, I'm counting the schedule and they have, they're the one team where the schedule is pretty, pretty alarmingly bad.
37:35Um, but I also thought like, I, I do feel like you can talk yourself into the offensive coordinator thing, really just submarine them last year.
37:43Plus the injuries like that. There's real reasons they weren't as good as they should have been last year.
37:49I think the offense will be good. I just, right.
37:52Defense is just so injured. I don't know. I get injured and other stuff.
37:57Yeah. Like having your first round pick from two years ago, wearing an ankle bracelet right now.
38:02Not great. Um, two guys coming back, maybe not even in time for the first game.
38:07So they got to survive the first month. And yet you had them topping.
38:11Well, they just have a crazy amount of talent.
38:14No, the talent. The offensive talent is unbelievable. When I did my, my rankings, I had them fifth.
38:20In talent in the blue chip thing. Yeah. All right.
38:23Especially from an offense standpoint. Well, Lions fans have been.
38:26We're loaded everywhere. Been giving it to me for this.
38:29So maybe you're right. When did Laporta go out?
38:32Like week six? Yeah. That was a sneaky big one.
38:35And yeah, the offense was still good without him.
38:38The two sneaky ones last year were him and craft.
38:41Cause I thought craft was like starting to look like Gronk.
38:45He's right. And then he just got taken out with Parsons.
38:48So that's another thing with the green Bay. Like yeah.
38:51Factor that into craft will be back. So yeah.
38:54Yeah. All right. That's the first half. We're ending with the lions.
38:58Jesus, the Bengals, not even in the top half of the NFL.
39:02And you're right. You do like the Bengals. You try to better than 17.
39:06I don't have him top eight or whatever, but all right, we come back.
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40:50The Bengals remain on the board and I am going to put them up against Minnesota.
40:55Let's do it. I love that you were like, no, I don't like the Bengals.
41:00And then you're just completely flummoxed as I take other teams over them for 20 minutes.
41:05Well, I don't have, I mean, it's going to be a top five offense probably.
41:10Top 10 at minimum. Is it? Yeah. All right.
41:13All right. Bengals versus Vikings. Well, you finally found a team I can put the Bengals ahead of.
41:18All right. Vikings. I, the Kyler Murray thing. If I had to do what you do and do NFL live and just
41:25go on a show and talk extemporaneously about the NFL every day by mid June, I would have been like, what the
41:32guy, what are you guys doing with Kyler Murray?
41:35What, what's happening right now? You think everyone's being too, like, he'll be fine.
41:39The Cardinals paid for him to go away. Yeah.
41:42Which not everyone. It was like his contract expired.
41:45They were like, no, we'll take the cap it.
41:48We have to move on from this. Do you think he could beat up van Lathen?
41:53Do I think he could beat up van Lathen?
41:56Don't answer. Does he boxed? If he, if he hasn't bought van has boxing experience.
42:00I think van could take a extremely unnecessarily long conversation.
42:03We had the taping of the watchables was which NFL quarterbacks van Lathen could actually beat up.
42:09He definitely beats up Kyler Murray. I don't think there's any question.
42:12Um, but yeah, I don't, I don't, the quarterback thing.
42:16Honestly is KOC. Is this it for him in Minnesota?
42:19If it doesn't work. Yeah. He, I, I saw him.
42:22He seemed a little defensive. I saw him on, I don't know if it was Eisen or something or Dan Patrick, where
42:29he was like, well, every time I've had, average quarterback play, it's been like, we've won 10 games and it felt like pretty defensive.
42:36Um, I might, first of all, Sam Darnall was better than average and then proved it in Seattle the next year.
42:43And they completely screwed that up. Right. Second, he, he touted JJ McCarthy to us all last year.
42:49I know. And talked about his zoom calls. He did with JJ every day and all this stuff.
42:54And then JJ couldn't have been worse. But every reporter was like, JJ was entirely the GM's pick.
43:00The coaching staff had nothing to do with it.
43:03Right. Yeah. They, they all throw each other over the, under the bus.
43:07Kyler will look good for three weeks. He'll scheme some different things for him to run around and do stuff.
43:13And then the teams will figure them out and they'll go one and eight to finish the season.
43:19And we won't hear from them again. I love the Minnesota fans.
43:22I feel bad, but that team's not going to be good.
43:26All right. Well, will they be better than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
43:30Cause that's your next choice. I think the bucks will be better.
43:33Do you have the bucks off top? The NFC South before we continue.
43:38Oh, you'd like, I would decide anything on the NFC South on July 20th.
43:42What are you doing? I need another five weeks.
43:45I need to do dark arts. I need, I need to wear garlic and, and go to a cemetery.
43:51The Panthers last year were the ones that were like this, if I ever saw, I hated so much when they would
43:58make me, because they make us pick the games on TV.
44:01And every time they would say the Panthers, I would try to hide from the camera.
44:06Yeah. Insane team. Um, the bucks I feel like could be good.
44:10So the coach piece of it where it's the classic.
44:13I thought you were going to fire your coach last year.
44:16Oh, you didn't he's back. It feels like that never works in the NFL.
44:21And it like a good example is the jets was Sala when they were like, yeah, we're going to bring him back.
44:28It's fine. And then by week five, he's gone.
44:31I just, I would have him circled in the first coach fired rankings.
44:35Cause I thought he should have been fired after the season.
44:38They do have some talent though. Right. Um, and they're in a bad division.
44:42Good offensive line. They're in a division where nobody in the division has better than two to one odds to win the
44:49division, which I don't even know how that works.
44:52Where's Baker on your tears? He's in the middle.
44:55I didn't love the last eight Baker games. Yeah.
44:58Remember when we were doing the MVP, we are all doing our pods Baker MVP.
45:03Yeah. Week seven. He was just chucking it to the other team.
45:06Um, all right. But you have them over the Vikings.
45:09I do. Obvious reasons. By the way, we talked about the Vikings.
45:13I'm going to go Vikings. This is, this is okay.
45:16So there's like the bottom 10 or the bottom eight teams are very obvious.
45:21This is the like tier where you don't really know, you know, it's just, it's a mess.
45:26I'm going to go. T Steelers here. Vikings V Steelers.
45:29I had the Vikings over the Steelers. Okay. I think the Steelers I have in my bottom 10.
45:35Really? Yeah. Yeah. You know what we can't do this year is that, well, it's Mike Tomlin.
45:40He always goes nine and eight. He always, he always makes the playoffs.
45:44He's not there anymore. We can't do that anymore.
45:47Yeah. So what are we going to do? TJ Watt, who basically died in the second half of the season.
45:53Highsmith's like what? How old is he? 35, 37.
45:56Somewhere in there. Aaron Rogers is 42. 42. That one.
45:59I do know. 42. It's quite possible. The best part of their offense is Kenneth Gainwell.
46:04He's gone. Oh, what team is he on? I actually, I knew this actually.
46:09Let me look him up. Where did he go?
46:12Tampa? So Jalen Moore is Jalen Warren. Yeah. Tampa.
46:14I love Kenneth Gainwell. That's my guy. See, I finally effed up.
46:18I've been. I had the wrong. Nobody knows that Kevin Gainwell plays for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
46:24No, but that's like, well, Americans. Now my opinion is invalidated because I forgot he changed teams.
46:29Um, no, but yeah, I don't. I thought the Steelers, I didn't understand how they even won as many games as they did last year.
46:37I didn't understand it as it was happening. Uh, all right then 20 Steelers versus commanders.
46:42Oof. I had them right next to each other.
46:45Uh, I have the Steelers. Okay. A whiff ahead of the commanders.
46:48The commanders feel like like the vibes from the commanders.
46:51I do like that. They lower their average age from like 35 to 27 though.
46:56That's a good move. The sunny styles thing is going to be fun.
47:00Yeah, he's good. Maybe we'll get a healthy Jaden Daniels with Terry.
47:04Terry McLaurin won't have come back from a holdout and just immediately gotten hurt, which seems who's going to be the guy
47:11this year who does the Terry McLaurin. I don't know that guy who comes back and just gets hurt immediately.
47:17Could be percent. Is he holding out? Did you not know this?
47:21This is my favorite story in the NFL. I did not know this.
47:25Jacoby Brissett was like, I'm the starter. Pay me like a starter.
47:29And on one half, everyone was like, what are you doing?
47:32But on the other hand, people were like, there really is no one else there.
47:37They, I feel like there's no sentence that better captures the state of the Arizona Cardinals right now better than Jacoby Brissett is holding out.
47:45So great. I had no idea. So what? So in NFL Live.
47:49It might be over now. We haven't talked about NFL Live, but I think he might, he might, it might be over, but he's disgruntled.
47:56I was going to say an NFL Live. Is that like a Friday of July 4th weekend?
48:02No, we have rankings to react to. Okay. We have Lamar Jackson being ranked 69th on the NFL player list.
48:08Is that true? Yeah. Below Bo Nix. Jesus. Okay.
48:11The commander. So you took the commanders over. Wait, where we were.
48:15Steelers. No, I took Steelers over the commanders. Okay.
48:17So commanders are still an option. Let's throw them up against the team that I am.
48:22I kind of like in the NFC South. You're only saints.
48:26I know you like them. We were texting about this a little bit.
48:30I have the saints above the Steelers and the commanders.
48:33Okay. Where we have Tyler Shuck. You a Shuck boy.
48:36Been a fan the whole year. McShay was on him from day one.
48:40Kudos to him. He really won me over. I don't know why I watched as much saints on league pass.
48:47I, I don't really have an explanation for it, but he took big hits.
48:51Yeah. He, he was an end of the game.
48:54Like would actually feel like he got better. I didn't love his weapons kept getting hurt and it just didn't matter.
49:00He, I really like him. I think he's good.
49:03I like him too. I like, you know, they, they were like sneaky competent as the season went along.
49:09No question. They screwed up a bunch of parlays and they were, they were a dangerous team to go against.
49:15I'll tell you another thing. This is how deep my prep went at Mina Kimes.
49:20I think their offensive line is going to be pretty good.
49:24I do too. Yeah. They might actually be able to block.
49:27They got David Edwards from the bills. Yeah. The tackles look kind of nice.
49:31They got Travis. A-chan is now a saint. Also they kept Alvin Kamara.
49:36So there's no like bad, angry vibes. So they paid him a little bit to like wind things down.
49:42And they have a, I didn't love the Tyson pick.
49:45Cause I don't like, I don't like injury histories with in college.
49:48I just feel like that's going to keep happening.
49:51Good player. And then they have a lobby who everyone wrote off because of the concussions, but then he played the whole year last year.
49:59I really liked Vele. The, the, he got hurt halfway through, but I had him on my fantasy team when he got hurt.
50:06It was kind of devastating. That might be a little, they threw them all the time for, for like a month.
50:13I had a, I have a lava on mine and last year was amazing.
50:17My I'm the one I'm in with Danny Kelly.
50:20Yeah. I'm in a league with Danny Kelly and all his high school friends.
50:25And Chris Olave was big, big for me. He's great.
50:28It's a classic zag fantasy guy where everybody gave up on him and you just kind of swoop in and grab them.
50:35All right. I think the saints could win that division and Vegas does too.
50:39They're he's they're like plus two 30. Wow. Really?
50:42Yeah. It's NFC South. All right. Commies versus a team that I keep saying, I don't know what to do it.
50:48The Colts. I had the Colts way above them.
50:51Really? How much above them? Two levels. Wow. Yeah.
50:54Okay. So you, where are you, where are you at on the Daniel Jones injury threat level?
50:59Because that's why I don't know what to do with them.
51:03I don't know. I don't know. I just know the Colts were really good last year and they made the big sauce
51:10Gardner trade who immediately got hurt right after Daniel Jones got hurt.
51:13And then they just fell apart completely. But that team was pretty good last year for eight weeks.
51:19Now I know they lost Pittman, but the Taylor Taylor's in a contract year, right?
51:24I don't know if he is, but he's on the team.
51:27So yeah, that's a little concerning, but I think they'll be fine.
51:31I could see them sneaking in as a seven seed.
51:34All right. Well, there's going to be a bad nine and eight playoff team and everybody thinks it's going to be the
51:41Bengals, but I think it could be like three other teams.
51:45Okay. Commies are falling. Yeah. Commanders versus let's, let's just wrap up the NFC scenario.
51:49Well, no, we got two more NFC South teams.
51:52Let's do the Panthers here. Commanders versus Panthers. I had the Panthers way above them.
51:57Wow. Okay. So what this is telling me is that you're very low on the commanders is.
52:02I'm low on the commanders, but I actually, the Panthers, I think are my favorite NFC South team.
52:08I need to do more research on it. Well, the defense should be good, right?
52:12I mean, they added like legit stars. Here's the thing.
52:16I value playoffs and NBA and NFL player performance.
52:18Did you show up? They played awesome against the Rams.
52:22Like that matters. They, it wasn't like they snuck into the playoffs and then they actually like showed up for that game.
52:28And I saw the Holy Cross grad, Jalen Coker.
52:31I saw him at the Bob Cousy thing. We sat next to him that, but they honored Bob Cousy and was talking
52:38about it and not to talk out of school, but he was just like, yeah, we almost beat the Rams.
52:44Like we were right there. We should have beaten them.
52:48Like I'm still mad about it. And I thought the same way.
52:51Like they could have beaten them. The thing about the, this is why I was saying like, I hate picking Panthers games.
52:58Cause there'd be one week where they would look like the worst team in the NFL and lose to, you know, the Falcon or some other team.
53:07Like, and then the next team they would go toe to toe or like they, they, they played the Rams.
53:13They beat the Rams right in the regular season.
53:16Am I misremembering? So it was just such a weird ride, especially with Bryce Young that I don't know.
53:22It was Bryce Young related and that's going to be the issue as always.
53:26But so I think to me, McMillan's like at least a red chipper and might even be close to a blue chipper
53:33the way he was playing at the end of the year.
53:37Their O-line is going to be pretty good. They have a bunch of good guys on defense.
53:42I had four guys that got points for them.
53:45And then their special teams are good. Yeah. Right.
53:48And then are they the team that got Gannon?
53:50They were right. Uh, no, the Packers. Oh, the Packers.
53:54Carolina got somebody good too, though. Their coach, their defensive coach is really good.
53:58I actually almost had them as a top 10 defense, which is crazy, but yes.
54:03Um, okay. I kind of like commanders keep the NFC South.
54:06Uh, the commanders keep falling. Will the Atlanta Falcons stop their fall?
54:10No, I had the Falcons above them and I don't feel good about it.
54:14New coach. So there's going to be a new coach bump team.
54:18It happens every year. Could it be the Falcons?
54:21Um, and the answer is probably not because of their quarterback situation, but they do, you know, they're going to be able to block.
54:28They have some weapons. Good weapons. They've spent and drafted real capital on their defense, whether you could say it paid off, who knows?
54:36They're going to be able to block. But, um, I just think they have more talent.
54:41Yeah. I don't trust Daniels to stay healthy at all.
54:44I just don't. Like you've stood next to him, right?
54:47He's he's just I have stood next to him.
54:50He feels like he weighs like 175 pounds. He had.
54:53Okay. Here's a trivia question, football trivia question for you.
54:56Cause I just looked this up. So he had a 16% scramble rate last year, which was the highest in the NFL.
55:03That is the second highest in modern NFL history.
55:06Meaning scrambling. Who do you think was the first NFL history?
55:09Please don't tell me Drake may. No, but Drake Bay was the top 25.
55:14Yeah. Who is number one? Vic 2003. Wow. But other than that, so Lamar's never come close to that.
55:20Right. Um, other than that, Vic only topped it once.
55:23And it was when he played five games. Like, so anyway, my point is like, he gotta stop scrambling so much.
55:30Cause he's going to get looney tunes. Did you watch in the, you know, in the world cup, the red card, when
55:36the, um, the art, the Spanish, I can't remember which player it was, did like a full 360.
55:42Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about Jane Daniels watching that when it happened.
55:47Cause it reminded me of like a hit Jane Daniels would have taken in college.
55:52I do not love that. This is the Patriots tried to do this with may.
55:57They didn't want him scrambling. Cause he kept taking, he kept getting head hits.
56:01Yeah. And, uh, and so last year you could see when he scrambled, he was really nervous about it.
56:07Interesting. Cause they were so in his head about just go down, don't take hits.
56:12And I actually think that led to him being a little careless with the football sometimes.
56:17Cause he was, he wasn't just like the way Josh Allen is or Josh Allen's like, I am scrambling linebacker.
56:23I know that's even drink. May is big. Josh Allen is not a normal size man.
56:28Like drink is way bigger than Jaden Daniels though.
56:31Is the salient point. Yes. Yes. You know, when you're locked in focus and fearless, welcome to the WNBA, your vision narrows.
56:38You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three.
56:41Every, every, did you see that moment? You bet.
56:44What records are going to be broken this season?
56:47All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN all season long.
56:51All right. We are down commanders versus, already got the Colts.
56:55Panthers came off the board. Let's go giants. I have them right next to each other.
57:00I coin flip. I'll say the commanders just so we can stop saying their name.
57:05I think the giants fans in my life are badly overrating John Harbaugh, who was going to get fired the year before Lamar showed up.
57:12And even the year that before he started playing them.
57:16And I don't know. I think they have a great front office.
57:19Harbaugh is fine. I don't think he's going to be a miracle worker.
57:23They think he, they think he, they have a great front office.
57:27No, the Ravens do. Oh, I'm so sorry. You're talking about the Ravens.
57:31Yeah. Yeah. No, the giants, the giants might, but I thought he dined off a lot of good Ravens stuff.
57:38Uh, yeah, I, I, the Malik neighbors thing is just freaking me out too much.
57:42No one knows part that they're like, he's not coming back until he's a hundred percent.
57:47Perfect. I, the people are scrutinizing like celebrity dodgeball games and noticing he's walking with like a slight limp in them.
57:54I, that's never. Do not like that. Um, okay.
57:57I wish I, I, there was a better version of that draft that I just wish they had done.
58:03Yeah. Where they took Reese and yeah. And, and then got downs and just said, screw it.
58:08We're going all in. We're going to have a sick defense.
58:11We're just going to have the sickest defense. I heard what you said about Carter and I completely agree.
58:17Oh, he's so good. I think Carter's, I had him in my player rankings.
58:22I put him higher than he's probably supposed to be.
58:25Cause no, that'll, that'll age. Well, I think. Yeah.
58:28Cause part of the problem with that team was they, you know, that a lot of the times they didn't have the lead.
58:35Yeah. So you never, you never got to see the giants with the lead.
58:39I was like good pass rushes when you're up 10, it's completely different when you know you're throwing.
58:45So imagine seeing miles Garrett was a lead though.
58:48Seriously. It's horrible. And Aaron Donald. Okay. Giants versus.
58:51Raiders. Oh, uh, giants. Okay. The Raiders are in my bottom five.
58:54Well, we're in the bottom five now. So are we?
58:58Yeah, I guess this is the, uh, yeah. One, two, three, four, bottom six.
59:02All right. Raiders versus let's do Raiders versus Titans.
59:05Yeah. It's appropriate sound. I don't understand the Raiders thing where they're pretending Mendoza is not going to be the quarterback to like week 13.
59:13Everybody does this. They always do this, but we know we're going to see him in like October 5th.
59:19When did Drake may actually start now? I'm forgetting.
59:21We, it was like fifth or sixth game. Right.
59:24They were like, he won't play. He's not, he's never, he should never touch a football.
59:29I shouldn't even look at a football. And then we just like, yeah.
59:33And then cousins too. Although they'll be able to block.
59:37I think. Okay. I think their line's going to be okay.
59:40Certainly better than last year when Gentry was just getting tackled behind the line every play, but I feel like we'll see him sooner.
59:47So I would say Raiders just cause I think when Mendoza plays, they'll probably get bumped a little bit.
59:53But I mean, the bigger question to me is as Tom Brady starts to act more and more bizarre, is that going to start affecting their team?
60:02He is like a part owner of the team.
60:05Doing WWE promos during just, it's just, is it hurting you emotionally, personally?
60:09It honestly, it's not, it's more of so many people ask me about it.
60:13And I'm just like, look, man, these guys all fly too close to the sun and they don't know how to replace
60:20it once they don't have it anymore. And it's over and over again, the best athletes ever.
60:25They just, they don't know how to replace it.
60:28You end up doing, doing WWE segments with one of the Paul brothers.
60:32I feel like this is the greatest quarterback ever.
60:35Like, you know, just like, like, we don't see, we never saw Steve young doing, I don't even know.
60:41I guess it must be more a generation. Like what?
60:44The best is Montana for this. Yeah. Just Montana was effing cool.
60:48As soon as he was done, he just like, he just levitated above the sport.
60:53Yeah. I don't, I don't know what he's doing.
60:56Listen, if he's happy, I'm happy. He brought us six Super Bowls.
60:59He seems relatively happy. Okay. Setting aside that digression.
61:02So the Raiders, you took the Raiders over the Titans, right?
61:06Yeah. Okay. So Titans versus. There's one. Oh, Titans.
61:08Am I leaving anyone out? Obvious? No. You think there's a team that I should be, that I should have higher of the team.
61:16I'm higher on then. You might be surprised. I've got to be surprised.
61:20Cause I'm looking at this bottom five and they've been the bottom five every time.
61:25So you're the Titans over the jets. Okay. If you're a jets fan, are you worried at all?
61:30That Gino is just marginally like competent. I'm not, you know, I've taken my lumps there and that you play yourself out
61:37of the Archmanning sweepstakes because they've, because Gino's in a situation now significantly better, right?
61:42Than what he was last year with the jets.
61:45One would think. After watching Gino play last year.
61:48I don't think that's. You're not worried. You're feeling.
61:51You're definitely not worried about the jets. It is funny though.
61:54I hear the pain in your voice. Every time Gino comes up.
61:58Probably the single biggest L I've taken. Yeah, but we all have them.
62:02Yeah. That it's, you didn't know he was just going to suddenly turn into the worst quarterback of all time out of nowhere.
62:09He was really horrible last year. Yeah. Okay. I can't believe you're starting for anyone.
62:14Like there's gotta be. You're not worried. No, I actually.
62:17I'm gonna try my flag. I think he's going to be better than at least a couple of the quarterbacks remaining on this list.
62:24I really do. But that we're, we are at the bottom of the NFL.
62:29Um, okay. Mm. Mm. 29 jets versus. Browns. Uh, I have the Browns and I actually have the Browns in that Steelers.
62:36Okay. Commanders. That's the one you were talking about.
62:39Interesting. Yeah. I think the Browns are interesting. Every year.
62:42I, every year there's a terrible team. That makes the playoffs.
62:45And if you really try to rack your brain and try to figure out who it's never a team that makes sense.
62:52And I haven't decided who I'm picking for that category yet, but I keep looking at the Browns for some reason.
62:59Is it just the defense? Cause the defense should be good dish.
63:02At least above average. The Browns have good players.
63:05Like they have good players on defense. Yeah. They, I think have a couple of good offensive player.
63:11I thought Judkins was a monster down there. You're a fan and junior.
63:15It's awesome. Fan and junior. Yeah. I like it.
63:18Six tight end. Okay. Two wide receivers in the, in the thirties in the draft just now.
63:23Counterpoint. The last time we saw just Sean Watson play football, he was 44th in the paper drop back and then he or his Achilles.
63:31And then sure. Sanders last year was like 42nd.
63:34I get it. I get it. But to me, it's like, why are they going to be worse than the Falcons?
63:40The Falcons have the same terrible quarterback situation. They're not as bad.
63:44Who's, who's more likely to have the number one overall pick next year?
63:48The jets or the Browns jets. Wow. I think the Browns have too much talent.
63:53All right. All right, cool. All right. Well, the jets remain an option.
63:57Let's go jets versus Cardinals. Cardinals. Cardinals are another one where they do have a couple of guys.
64:03I just feel like the jets, we know where this season's going and Aaron, Aaron Glenn, whether you have to fire him during this season.
64:10Yeah. It's a pre firing. Um, the quarterback situation's abysmal.
64:14I didn't even really, I honestly didn't love their draft.
64:17I know people got excited about it, but everyone's like, they got three first runners.
64:21Well, they got three first runners. Cause they traded the best players in their team to get two of the first rounders.
64:28Right. I don't know. Uh, I mean the Cardinals in this division or in this exercise, you have to take out the division, right?
64:36Cause they get so punished by the fact that they're in the NFC West, but if they weren't in the NFC West,
64:43I don't think maybe they would be viewed as bad or abysmally.
64:47All right. I mean, listen Cardinals dolphins jets are all going to be terrible.
64:51I don't do the jets versus dolphins then for 31.
64:54Yeah. I, I have, uh, when you did your blue chipper thing with the dolphins, H and I'll read it to you.
65:01Okay. I had the jets last. I had the dolphins slightly ahead of them at H and sealer and Brooks plus, plus the kicker the jets.
65:09I gave a minus two for quarterback. Um, I don't, I don't mind Willis.
65:14I like, I just, and there's a chance our offensive line's not going to be terrible.
65:19And the thing was really weird last year. Imagine if Willis was a Brown, where would, do you have them?
65:25Like it'd be so fun. Well, can we talk the Browns thing out for a second?
65:30Cause you think it's going to be Sanders or Watson?
65:33Those are the only two choices I'm gonna have.
65:36Yeah. Nobody else. What about tiny, tiny Dylan Gabriel?
65:39I can't, it's over. It's over. Everything else out of Cleveland suggests it's going to be Sanders versus Watson.
65:45Sanders was pretty bad last year, but nobody's going to be worse than two on the Falcons.
65:50Like if we're going to start dinging quarterbacks to and Gino, we're as bad as Sanders.
65:55Sanders at least did a couple of things. I don't, there's bad quarterbacks everywhere.
65:59All right. I just think dolphins or Cardinals or their jets.
66:03I'm going to put the dolphins last because they clearly don't want to be good this year.
66:08And neither did the jets, but I think the dolphins have an easier path to not being good.
66:14And they have a coach that signed up for the program.
66:17Yeah. Whereas the jets don't jets might try to win a couple of games first week, first month.
66:23Yeah. Right. It does feel like everyone in Miami knows what the score is, except for my equalist who signed there.
66:29I had, I had five Browns on defense that I gave points to.
66:34I like the Browns defense. I just, yeah, no, I mean, it's absolutely defensible for the Browns to be the top.
66:40You could, they couldn't do it. They couldn't do a Judkins, 1600 rushing yards defense, a lot of 13 and 10 games
66:47or just cause Jim Schwartz is there. I think the defense is good, but you took out the best defensive player of a generation.
66:55There's going to be a little bit of an impact there or Ewing theory.
66:59They never went anything with them. Who's more likely to benefit from the Ewing theory, the Eagles or the Browns defense?
67:06Browns defense. Yeah. The Eagles don't qualify cause they already won the title.
67:10That's fair. All right. Has your life been different since you won the title?
67:14Do you feel like just happier and nicer and more pleasant?
67:17Um, I feel similarly to the last time they won that this next season is kind of a gimme.
67:23Like when people always ask me, did Superbowl 49 break your soul?
67:27And I always say no, because they had just won.
67:30It's still going to be wrong. It sucked. And I didn't talk to anyone for like three days, but if we had,
67:37if the Seattle hadn't won the year before, I don't know if I could have kept watching football after that.
67:44But they just won. You know? That's how I fought with the Celtics.
67:48Cause I was joking about England, how, what a terrible loss that was.
67:52And people were like, you, how was it different when the Celtics choked against the next?
67:57Cause you won. I was like, well, we won the year before.
68:00I got over that pretty fast. Totally. It gives you, um, like emotional bandwidth for a few years.
68:06So, so whatever happens this year happens, like all the Ram stuff.
68:10It's like, eh, okay. You know, they'll probably win.
68:13Well, there's some interesting. Yeah. I don't know. I think you have real back to back potential, which puts you in another stratosphere.
68:20Well, that's a much shorter list of NFL teams.
68:23Very hard to do. I also, I had your coach as the best coach or the coaching staff just in general, but.
68:30I love him. I think he's so good. Yeah.
68:32Cause you really could have won every game. You could have, you could have gotten 19 and 0.
68:38He's awesome. All right. Here's the final rankings. I want you to tell me which team is gonna be the maddest, even though I think it's pretty obvious.
68:47Seahawks Rams Broncos Patriots Texans Niners Ravens Chargers Eagles bills are your top 10.
68:51Bears Packers Chiefs Cowboys Jags Lions Bengals Bucks Vikings Steelers 20.
68:55Okay. Saints Colts Panthers Falcons Commanders Giants Raiders Titans Browns Cardinals Jets Dolphins.
68:59What's funny is that's not even, I like how you did this.
69:03Cause now I still feel like I can do my rankings.
69:06Cause the way you did it. I had an appearance.
69:09Like I have the lions at 16 there. I think they're going to be better team.
69:14That will be the maddest is probably, I would say the Jaguars.
69:18Yeah. The Jaguars. I'm like, we were really good last year.
69:21Yeah. I know that Bill's game and we easily could have made the AFC title.
69:26I think I'm a higher on the Jaguars in this list.
69:30I think the Bengals fan Bengals fans are thinking Superbowl.
69:33So you're, you're a lot lower on them than they are on themselves.
69:37What freaking world did they live in? Why are they thinking Superbowl?
69:41Well, if you, if that happens, this clip will, this podcast will be clipped off approximately in 100 times.
69:47So we'll see. Listen, I don't know what camera look at.
69:50Bring it on. The Bengals are not making the Superbowl.
69:53Wow. Please aggregate this out of all my orifices.
69:56There's no chance. The Bengals will not make the Superbowl period.
69:59It's not happening. All right. I have no comment on that.
70:03Bill, thank you so much. This is a great rankings.
70:06Dare say the best rankings yet. Oh, thanks Mina.
70:09Check out the hitch rewatchables. Yeah. Which is out by the time this comes out.
70:14Or crazy, stupid, love rewatchables. That was a great one.
70:17That was a banger. People like that one. Yeah.
70:20It's a great movie. We learned a lot about Mina Kimes on that rewatchables too.
70:24A little too much. All right. This, just to the AFC West by the time this comes out, or which means I
70:31believe the NFC South, woof, is going to be the next division to hit your ears.
70:36Good luck with that one. Can anyone win nine games?
70:39We'll see. Also joining the ringer fantasy show. I think this week, maybe the same day this comes out or the next
70:46day to talk about their final hot quarterbacks rankings.
70:49Have you been following this? I have. They're very excited about it.
70:53It was a great idea. I'm glad you were able to help them with some guidance.
70:58Some bad rankings on that list. Listen, I gave up on this like 12 years ago when I did a whole mailbag
71:05thing and somebody talked about how handsome Eli Manning was.
71:08And I was just like, I just, I don't.
71:11I don't see it. And it was like, yeah.
71:13And Katie Baker was like, oh, all women think Eli Manning's handsome.
71:17I'm like, what? I just had, I have no radar for this at all.
71:22So I would have been a bad asset. On behalf of the Omaha productions producers who make the show, Eli is very handsome and very talented.
71:30All right. Bye guys. See you later.

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