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Risers & Fallers - ADP Is Lying To You

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48 min
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Jul 7, 2026
Published
Tue, July 7, 2026
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Topics
Aaron JonesBrian Thomas Jr.Brock BowersChristian WatsonDenzel BostonHarold FanninJacory Croskey-MerrittJadarian PriceJayden ReedJaylen WaddleJordan MasonJosh JacobsMichael WilsonQuentin Johnston
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Aaron Jones

NegativeValue35:31

Up 1.1 in ADP; best comparable is Christian McCaffrey. Lead back in a committee and primary receiving back; excellent receiver and efficient runner. With Kyler Murray as an upgrade, the offensive environment takes a huge step forward. Projects as a weekly RB2 with flex floor. Concerns include age potential cliff and soft tissue injury history, but solid value at ADP with little concern about productivity when healthy.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeProjection38:30

Derek Carr prefers Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville over Brian Thomas Jr., stating he's taking Lawrence and not drafting anybody else in managed leagues. Carr wants the facilitator (Lawrence) rather than betting on multiple receivers in a crowded Jacksonville offense; when choosing between BTJ and Christian Watson, he takes Watson.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue16:00

Brock Bowers is down 0.4 spots and remains tight end one, but the speaker questions the price tag. While Bowers is the offensive centerpiece with massive target share and weekly tight end over-one upside, the speaker doesn't see turning profit with him unless he's averaging close to 18 points per game. There are other guys going in the second round who can still put up 300-point seasons at multiple positions. Additionally, Clint Kubiak's arrival may not spell great tight end production; Kirk Cousins was historically not a great tight end producer, and rookie quarterbacks like Fernando Mendoza aren't great for tight ends either. Bowers has probably the highest floor of anybody in fantasy, but there's not a lot of room for profit at his ADP.

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Christian Watson

PositiveValue36:22

Up half a draft spot with best comparable Alec Pierce. The streets are saying he's 'the biggest value on the board at wide receiver' and Derek Carr finds it hard to argue against that. Packers' preferred outside receiver and primary deep threat locked into two-wide-receiver sets; elite size-speed combo and metrics darling with outstanding yards per route run and incredible fantasy efficiency. Fits Jordan Love's aggressive style perfectly. Target tree consolidated with Wicks gone, Bo Melton playing cornerback, and Jaden Reed's role uncertain, which concentrates opportunity. Projects weekly WR1 upside and weekly WR1.5 floor. Durability concerns exist but Carr believes they won't create volatility with Love and LaFleur. Main draft decision is choosing between Watson and Tucker Kraft.

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Denzel Boston

PositiveValue4:00

Denzel Boston is a prototypical X wide receiver turning heads in camp with an ADP of wide receiver 63, making him primo value. He's expected to be available on waivers at some point, so there's no need to invest early if you're looking for late-round tight end or quarterback help.

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Harold Fannin

PositiveValue23:02

Tight end 7 in current ADP; undervalued because the Browns offense is perceived as 'uninvestable' by the market. Fannin is the receiving tight end expanding his role with Todd Monken and projects as a 'future star.' High target share potential given rookie receiver competition (Concepcion, Boston). Should be available in the seventh or eighth round for strong return on investment.

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Jacory Croskey-Merritt

NegativeValue28:48

Down 0.9 in ADP; best comparable is Damian Harris. Described as 'another big faller' with market consensus that Rashad White will 'eat his lunch.' Good, explosive runner but 'a nothing in the passing game.' Expected backfield split mirrors Zach Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker, with Krosky-Merritt in the Kenneth Walker role (early-down back) and White in the Zach Charbonnet role (receiving back). Limited upside unless he gets the lion's share of the backfield.

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Jadarian Price

NegativeRole5:48

Jadarian Price was drafted to be a situational running back in Seattle, just as he was at Notre Dame, except he doesn't have Jeremiah Love in front of him stealing hype this time. His ADP is RB 26, which is palatable for a rookie with first-round capital. However, the speaker is a little bit off-type for this pick and would feel better if his ADP keeps falling. The Seahawks were 29th in EPA per rush last year, behind the Jets, Cardinals, Browns, and barely above the Texans. Charbonnet is expected to miss a lot of time early in the season, which creates opportunity for Price to see the lead role. Price is basically a zero in the passing game and it wasn't a huge part of his utility belt at Notre Dame, which is a real concern given his current limitations.

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Jayden Reed

PositiveRole36:22

Derek Carr questions how often Jaden Reed will be on the field in the Packers offense, noting uncertainty about his role in the consolidated target tree with Wicks gone and Christian Watson locked in as the primary outside receiver.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveValue39:15

Currently WR24; best comparable is Steve Smith. Derek Carr notes the streets are saying it's a Sean Payton offense and the Dolphins traded a first for him, positioning Waddle as the featured wide receiver and primary yak threat—a big offensive playmaker. Carr finds it hard to argue against the value given the trade capital and Payton's system fit.

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Jordan Mason

NegativeUsage35:31

The speaker notes that Jordan Mason will probably handle meaningful early-down rushing carries in the Vikings backfield, positioning him as a complementary back to Aaron Jones.

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Josh Jacobs

PositiveValue12:00

Josh Jacobs is down 0.08 in ADP but the market is too down on him. He's the clear feature back and three-down runner for Green Bay with primary goal line duties. He's been completely missed on ADP every year; he probably should have gone in the first round last year and would have produced at a first-round clip, but now slides into the second round and some leagues in the fourth round, which is crazy. He's projected an insane workload with high-value opportunities locked in. Matt LaFleur will run the ball regardless of who's in the lineup, and if Jacobs plays, he'll give double-digit touchdown upside and high weekly floor.

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Michael Wilson

PositiveProjection25:27

Down 0.8 in ADP; best comparable is Michael Crabtree. Starting outside receiver in a Pukunuku role with strong real-life value translating to on-field opportunity. Only receiver to score against Derek Stingley last year and 'mossed his ass.' Elite athlete with breakout already happened; projects as top-two in targets while winning in the end zone. Preferred over Marvin Harrison Jr. due to Harrison's uncertainty and prior injury history (concussions, appendicitis).

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Quentin Johnston

PositiveBreakout34:06

Described as the 'biggest riser' and a 'smash' pick. Starting outside receiver and primary vertical threat; elite athlete with outstanding size and speed. Justin Herbert already showed he knows how to take advantage of him. The speaker believes if the Mike McDaniel scheme can do more heavy lifting, it's a 'perfect match made in heaven.' Projects weekly wide receiver one upside on a smash, though route running still needs developing and he has a lower weekly floor than Ladd.

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Rashid Shaheed

PositiveRole1:12

Shaheed is being weaponized more like he was used in New Orleans under Clint Kubiak, who just arrived in Las Vegas. He's an explosive player with an expanded route tree positioned to benefit if JSN comes back down to earth. Before his season-ending meniscus tear, Shaheed averaged 13 points per game over 73 yards in four of five games with Derek Carr, hovering around top 20 in advanced metrics with 17.5 yards per reception; he dropped to 11 yards per reception last year but is expected to regain efficiency with the new scheme. His ADP is wide receiver 58 in the 12th round, making him a fantastic flyer and strong value at that price point.

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TreVeyon Henderson

PositiveRole19:57

Trevion Henderson is RB 21 and falling 0.4 in ADP with a Reggie Bush comparable. The speaker dislikes drafting him in the fourth round due to contingent upside tied to Ramondre Stevenson's role. Last year Henderson was a league winner when he played but a 'nothing burger in the playoffs' when sharing time, making him a risky fourth-round investment.

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Trevor Lawrence

NegativeProjection38:30

Derek Carr is taking Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville and not drafting other Jacksonville receivers in managed leagues, preferring the quarterback to the wide receivers in that offense. Describes Lawrence as 'the facilitator' and 'the big dog on a big dog offense,' making him the preferred Jacksonville stack target over receivers like Brian Thomas Jr.

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Trey McBride

NegativeUsage27:25

Dominates targets in the Cardinals offense but not viewed as a concern for Michael Wilson's upside; neither player is expected to lead the team in targets. Wilson can be top-two in targets and win in the end zone alongside McBride's target volume.

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0:46so, and we'll be covering a little bit of news here while we're at it.
0:51So let's just talk about some news. Let's get warmed up.
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1:12Rashid Shaheed, expanded route tree? Does he even need it?
1:15How about a guy who actually already showed that he had an expanded route tree?
1:20He's interesting. He's basically if Josh Reynolds was given his own sitcom, it sounds like they want to weaponize him more like
1:26how he was used in New Orleans, which is funny because the coach that actually unlocked him in New Orleans was just there.
1:33And now he's in Las Vegas in Clint Kubiak.
1:36It's hard to talk yourself out of this one.
1:38Cooper Cup, he's the locker room guy. He's the glue guy.
1:41First in, last out, scrappy, sneaky athletic, date your daughter type.
1:45But he's more or less washed. He's just there to provide technical route running and maybe busted coverage.
1:50Shaheed is an explosive guy and they compare that with JSM, who's another really explosive guy.
1:55Rashid was an incredible pick in 2024. Before that season ending meniscus tear to his left knee, he was averaging 13 points
2:01per game over 73 yards and four out of his five games with Derek Carr, who was basically Sam Darnold.
2:07He was hovering around top 20 in all your advanced metrics, 17.5 yards per reception, which I want to see him get back to.
2:14He was closer to 11 last year, but they traded for him.
2:18They eased him in special teams player makes sense, right?
2:21You need a little bit of acclimation, all that stuff going on here.
2:24And if they can have two guys that are highly efficient in the intermediate and deep areas of the field, I think
2:31that's how you keep this offense humming with Clint Kubiak gone.
2:34You got blind furry coming up. His ADP is wide receiver 58 and he's going around the 12th round.
2:40So I think this is a fantastic flyer. You know, if you can hit on one pick after round 11, I think you're looking pretty good.
2:47Unless you're me who hits on all five, but yeah, let's with JSN coming back down to earth a little bit.
2:54I could think this is just going to be one of those guys that you look at and you're like, if a
3:00player comes back down to earth and all other circumstances say the same, who benefits from that?
3:05I think it's going to be Shahid pretty handily.
3:08Let's get onto the Cleveland grooming scandal. As you can see that Cleveland is grooming Casey Concepcion to be an alpha receiver.
3:14You better be drafted him in the first round.
3:17Oh God. They're funny over there in Cleveland, aren't they?
3:20So our comp for Casey Concepcion on player profiler is Stefan Diggs.
3:23Now Stefan Diggs and alpha. Yeah. Pretty traditional alpha puts up the stats.
3:27Absolutely insane. Got crazy stories about him in the news, passing out pink bags on boats.
3:32Love that. Need that. Want more of that. But he's just an interesting player.
3:36Munkin is probably going to try and use him like they use a flowers last year and move him around the formation, try to get him easy matchups.
3:44He's a versatile playmaker. He wins against man very well.
3:47His ball turns or his ball skills are a concern, which is, you know, he's playing on offense.
3:53It's going to have low completion percentage. It's going to have low accuracy issues.
3:57So does that flip to Denzel Boston a little more?
4:00Who is that prototypical X wide receiver and is turning heads in camp?
4:04I don't know. I can't say for sure. But with an ADP of wide receiver 54, I think this is pretty primo,
4:10especially if you want to put a little dust, a little crack sprinkle on Jerry Judy and say good night to that ship.
4:17I know our boy Ian Harditz has been pounding the table for him when he's not watching Widows Bay.
4:22But, you know, they just this is an offense that needs to turn a corner and you bring in Todd Munkin to do that.
4:29Going back to back offensive coaches makes sense to me when defense hasn't really been the issue there.
4:35They've got an incredible young core. You got Jared Verst coming in.
4:38I know Myles Garrett goes out, but this is a team that's just going to be a high wire act.
4:44And I think that this is kind of that.
4:47That Jaden Reed type explosive two way player that they can use.
4:50So keep the grooming up. Not a not a phrase you can say often, I don't think, but I don't have any issue with that.
4:58If you guys just want a piece of this offense, but you don't still don't want to invest.
5:03Denzel Boston is going wide receiver 63, but this is probably a guy you're going to be able to pick up off waivers at some point.
5:11So I wouldn't feel too much like you need to invest in there if you're still looking for a late round tight end late round quarterback.
5:18I think you go that way as well. And then just wait for just wait for Boston to be on the waiver
5:25because he's he will be and there's nothing wrong with that.
5:28All right. What do we got here? Our last one in the notes section that I put the work into guys put
5:35the work in in the toilet, but the work in when I was rolling the trash out, I can't do errands or
5:41chores without putting my fantasy notes in my app.
5:44It's just how I'm wired. That's why I'm so good at the game.
5:48That's why I'm such a good podcast host. Jadarian Price drafted to be a situational running back in Seattle, which makes sense.
5:54He was a situational running back at Notre Dame.
5:57The only difference is he doesn't have a Jeremiah Love in front of him this time, stealing all the hype.
6:03And I am a little bit off type for this one.
6:06If his ADP keeps falling, I'm going to feel a lot better about it.
6:10I do feel like this is going to be one of those.
6:14I don't know. Rosters are going to go either way once you start getting out of that fifth round closer to the six.
6:20Our price comp for him at Player Profiler or our comp for Price is Miles Sanders, who got me out of some
6:27tough fantasy situations early on in his career. But he also put me in those fantasy situations, so I don't know where the buck falls there.
6:35But let's just take a look at the RBs taken at the end of the first round in the last 30 years.
6:41You've got Price, Clyde Edwards-Alaire, Rashad Penny, Sonny Michelle, Doug Martin, David Wilson, Javid Best, Donald Brown, Beanie Wells, Joseph Adai, Chris
6:47Perry, Kevin Jones, Trung Candidate for all my old heads, and then John Avery.
6:52So you're looking at about maybe two or three out of those guys that you could say were a hit, and none
6:58of them were consistent over the course of a career.
7:01So that's a tough group for him to join.
7:04I don't know if there's a correlation there or why that is, because you would think these teams at the end of
7:10the first round are going to be at least in good ecosystems.
7:14And you could look at the Seattle offense and say this is a good opportunity ecosystem for him.
7:19The problem is that they just were not a very good rushing team last year.
7:23They were very top-heavy, 29th in EPA per rush, which is behind the Jets, behind the Cardinals, behind the Browns, and just
7:30barely above the Texans, who were farting out Woody Marks and Nick Chubb just about every week with Woody Marks leaving every game with an injury.
7:38Shout out, my goat. Charbonnet was the best from this group last year on the Seahawks on a per-rush standpoint.
7:44Even Kenneth Walker, who played off MVP, Superman going to KC.
7:47He was 31st, so pretty decent amount of guys ahead of him.
7:50I think that the Super Bowl glory, deservedly so, is kind of washing over this offense a little bit.
7:56Who knows what ends up happening there? But I can't do all this without acknowledging two things.
8:01First, one good, one bad. The bad is that he's basically a zero in the passing game.
8:06He's not a part of his utility belt at Notre Dame.
8:09But when you have Jeremiah Love, once again, maybe you don't need that.
8:13Maybe you don't ask him to do something that he can eventually develop into.
8:17There are a lot of guys who came into the league that it just wasn't a huge part of their game that ended up efficiency-wise over time.
8:25They got down to it. So the good news is there's a big upside case that can completely wash away everything I just said.
8:32And I have to acknowledge that because we're all human beings.
8:35We all sin and fall short of the glory of fantasy football.
8:39Thank God. But let's see here. He's expected to miss.
8:42Charbonnet is expected to miss a lot of time early on in the season.
8:46Boom. That's there's a good running back on the team who can't play.
8:50There you go. An opportunity to see the Lees roll because the other guys on the team are just not very good.
8:56I don't believe in Emmanuel Wilson. I don't believe in George Helani.
9:00These were Helani was one of the worst rushers in the league last year on a per metric basis, on an overall basis, everything.
9:07He fits the block. He fits this Flory Shanahan zone scheme very well.
9:11That's a big part of it. Do you have a guy that can actually operate the run?
9:16Something that Kenneth Walker struggled with under previous offensive coordinators and found lightning in a bottle with finally underneath Clint Kubiak.
9:22All right. So those are the pros. Those are the cons is RB of 26.
9:26It's palatable for a rookie with first round capital, all that stuff.
9:30But I much prefer Tootin. I much prefer Judkins.
9:33Or if you want to go off type and get another position, Christian Watson, Lamar Jackson, Tyler Warren, all those guys I much prefer.
9:40They're just hot. They're just good. And there's a lot of which ways you can go.
9:44I don't think any of these picks are going to win you your league.
9:49I don't think any of these picks are going to sink your season in this range.
9:53But you're just looking about, you know, you're probably going to be starting one of these guys or you're looking at having the best depth possible.
10:01Just temper your expectations for what I think that price is going to give you on a season long accord.
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11:11Now what are we doing today? We're talking about the biggest risers and fallers of June and is their ADP a lie?
11:17And basically, is the market right? The consensus of where everybody's being drafted right, but don't we fade the public?
11:23Doesn't the public suck ass? I think so. I typically think so.
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11:55Happy to have you with us today. Who's first?
11:58What do you guys want to start with? Should we start negative and talk about the fallers?
12:03Yeah, I like that. Let's end. Let's wrap this baby up on a nice little positive bow.
12:08Let's get this hump day action going. Josh Jacobs.
12:10Josh Jacobs is going to be our first faller here, and I'm going to pull our boy up on the screen now.
12:17Josh Jacobs is an interesting cat because he's basically never had two seasons in a row that disappointed you, that disappointed me, that disappointed the general public.
12:25Let's throw him. Where are you here? Get back on the screen, baby.
12:29Share this screen instead. Josh Jacobs is down. He's our first biggest running back faller of June so far.
12:34He's down 0.08, which I know doesn't seem like a lot, but you're just seeing a shift.
12:39These guys usually, the maximum ends of the up and down doesn't usually shift more than two or three full spots.
12:45So we're talking about 0.8. The streets are saying that he's got the age cliff coming.
12:50Packers offensive line is in transition. And you got this Marshawn Lloyd, Chris Brooks, vulture thing going on.
12:55I don't know if I fully believe in such shenanigans, but it's certainly what the streets are saying.
13:01So what is Josh Jacobs? What is his role?
13:03He's the clear feature back. He's a three down runner, primary goal line option.
13:08And he is the offensive centerpiece of the Packers who, for some reason, they want to limit the amount of times Jordan
13:14Love has to throw the ball, even though he's very good at it when he's asked to.
13:19They want to run the ball, set up play action and hit big, fat, deep shots down the field, which as somebody
13:26who doesn't feel a lot in my life, who needs more to get going than the average human being, I appreciate that aspect of it.
13:33But I think the market is a little bit down on Jacobs.
13:36Obviously, there's the off the field incident, but that's not going to be a factor for this year.
13:42So what are you looking at con wise? Is he just not generating enough explosives for you?
13:47Is he interesting? Is he entering that part of his career where you're just you fade late running backs, late 20s?
13:53Are you worried about Marshawn Lloyd coming around? Are you worried about he won't get the same volume because he's not a very efficient runner?
14:00I don't know, man. This is a guy who was.
14:03He's been completely miss ADP every year, I think he probably doesn't have the injury should have gone in the first round
14:10last year and probably would have produced at a first round clip had that been the case slides into the second this year.
14:17He's sliding some leagues in the fourth round, which is just crazy.
14:20He's projected an insane workload. He's got the high value opportunities on lock.
14:24Matt LaFleur is going to run that piss out of the ball regardless of who's in the lineup.
14:29And so if he's in the lineup, he's always going to give you double digit touchdown upside high weekly floor.
14:35So by the dip on Josh Jacobs, I don't know.
14:38I mean, like, do we not have enough evidence of the NFL legal system that these guys are just if it doesn't
14:45happen, like within a full calendar year away from the start of the season?
14:49It's not anything you have to worry about. So, I mean, I guess we monitor camp.
14:53We monitor Chris Brooks's camp reports. We monitor Marshawn Lloyd's camp reports.
14:57But I think this is one of the safest selections in fantasy and is going to make it an easier player for
15:03me to build those wide receiver early builds, get those elite guys that are going to be able to put up 300, 350 points shots at that.
15:11And then just lock down the RB1 position in those three, four rounds.
15:15I think you'll be pretty good here if depending on your draft slot, right?
15:19If you're drafting out of like one or two and you're taking B.
15:23John or Gibbs, you want to go that way.
15:26Sure, that's different. But if you're drafting like three through six and you want to get your, you know, your Pukas, your
15:32Chases, your JSNs, your Almond Ross, and then come back around and double dip.
15:36I mean, I just think if Josh Jacobs is your RB2, you're going to be, you're a lock for the playoffs if he plays.
15:44And then, of course, you're going to blow it first round to a team that barely made it in as a 16, as we all do.
15:51All right, let's get to our next faller here.
15:54The fallers are, it's funny because it really is just, it's big dogs doing big dogs things.
15:59But I get why the fade's coming for some of these.
16:02Brock Bowers, he's going to be our second biggest faller of June.
16:06He's down 0.4 spots. He is still the tight end one.
16:09The streets are saying the positional advantage. And I do, I don't know how SpongeBob is supposed to say it in the
16:15meme where he's like leaning over and it's spelt in different letters of caps and lowercase.
16:20But that's what I have written down because that's what I hear when people say that.
16:25Oh, gee, fantasy football. I love all of the values in Green Bay this year.
16:29Yeah, the values in Green Bay are hot. Tucker Craft, you're getting the injury discount.
16:34Christian Watson, who will be on this list in just a little bit.
16:37Josh Jacobs, obviously. Even Jordan Love, if you're looking at some super flex QB2 stuff, he's got the best weapons he's probably
16:44had as far as the starting lineup goes. And this is also, I like a desperate team.
16:49I think Green Bay is desperate to take a leap that I haven't seen them take yet for a myriad of reasons,
16:55not lack of talent withstanding or coaching. So love all the Green Bay picks this year.
17:00I think that could be a lot of fun, especially the Jaden Reed, Matthew Golden, late round flyers.
17:06That's going to be pretty nice. But Brock Bowers, right?
17:08I'm trying to come up with some templates for this show so that I'm just not all over the place.
17:14You guys, you show up for the hat, show up for the stash, you show up for Miss Lady back here, you show up for Matthew McConaughey.
17:22So let me just fast track these beautiful thoughts.
17:25So what is Brock Bowers' role? We all know he's the offensive centerpiece just like Jacobs is in Green Bay.
17:31He's their primary receiving threat, and he's a mismatch, right?
17:34I don't need to get into the pros. He's going to have a massive target share.
17:39He's going to have weekly tight end over one all upside.
17:42He's just a cornerstone of this team. The concerns here are purely just ADP.
17:46It's just I like to turn profit in fantasy, and I don't see turning profit with Brock Bowers, unless he's averaging close
17:52to 18 points per game, which I'm not going to say he can.
17:56Obviously, he can. I would just rather have guys that are going in that second round that I still think can put
18:03up 300-point seasons, and I think there's a bounty of them at multiple positions.
18:07And I'm also too cocky to be so chalk with my picks.
18:10And I'm not saying that's how you always win your leagues or how you win your watch-ups.
18:15Sometimes the guy who just shows up to your draft and drafts the best players wins fantasy.
18:20Actually, probably almost all the time. But I just feel too good about the guys going either a little bit after Brock
18:27at the tight end position or going significantly later and trying to flex.
18:31You can't victory lap on Twitter. I drafted Brock Bowers.
18:34It just doesn't – thank you, fuck off next.
18:36All right? Nobody needs to hear that. I drafted Josh Allen.
18:40Fuck off. Thank you, next. I drafted B. John Gibbs.
18:43Take a hike, Bozo. How often do you guys get to say take a hike to somebody?
18:48Hopefully more than you are because it's one of the better slams you can hit.
18:52So expensive ADP. And then there's a few other like actual Raiders structural concerns.
18:56Clint Kubiak's coming in. It's going to be a better offense.
18:59There's no doubt about it. But, you know, that doesn't always necessarily spell great tight end production.
19:04Kirk Cousins, let's see, historically was not a great tight end producer.
19:08I appreciate what he did for Kyle Pitts late in the season.
19:11But I think that was a little bit more out of necessity.
19:15And then if Fernando Mendoza plays any meaningful stats, rookie quarterbacks just aren't great for tight ends.
19:20They're not. Go look at the track record. There was this myth that they are.
19:24They are not. And look, that doesn't mean that he has a low floor.
19:29He's got probably the highest floor of anybody in fantasy.
19:31But we're talking about upside when you're taking a tight end in the first – at the one-two turn.
19:37So just there's not a lot of room for profit.
19:40Like I said, love the player. Best tight end in the league.
19:44But I question the price tag. Now, you can sleep well at night knowing that there's a lot of question marks surrounding
19:50just about every tight end this year except for Arande Gadsden.
19:53He's the only guy who's bulletproof, locked, and loaded.
19:56But when your best comparable on here is Travis Kelsey, it's hard not to miss.
20:00We just wish he had a Patrick Mahomes throwing him the ball.
20:04Now, let's get to our next faller, which is interesting for me because usually this is a fantasy football darling.
20:10Guys like this typically don't fall, especially with the profile that they have.
20:14Trevion Henderson. Best comparable Reggie Bush. RB 21 right now in falling.
20:17He's down 0.4 in drafts. The streets are saying he's the hot girl at the bar that you can't get to because
20:24her friend is bogarting you, and the friend is Ramondre Stevenson in this situation.
20:28And for a role, I just put – I don't fucking know, man.
20:32Like, we have 15 years of Josh McDaniels toying with different guys in the lineups and having them in different situations.
20:38Obviously, this is a player who's on the rise.
20:40How quickly that rise comes, I don't know. Reggie Bush is his best comparable comp up here, which I love because there
20:47was just a big Reggie Bush tweet going around yesterday about how much better Reggie Bush would have – how much better
20:53his career would have been if he was drafted in 2016 as opposed to 2006.
20:58And it's like, okay, man. And Ian, once again, shout out Ian.
21:01He put it best. You were drafted to Sean Payton and Drew Brees on the Saints, and then you went and played for the Lions.
21:09I don't want to hear this nonsense. Reggie Bush had the career he should have had.
21:13So let's get back to Henderson here. You guys don't really need the pros from metrics and a profile standpoint.
21:19We saw what he could be when he touted the Rocks solo dolo.
21:23Patriots offensive line hopefully improving. He's got huge contingent upside.
21:26This is an easy RB1 if something happens to Ramondre or Ramondre takes a step back or has just minimized his role in the offense.
21:34I guess I just don't like drafting guys in the fourth round if we're talking about contingent upside.
21:39I just don't think there's enough high upside guys going after the fourth that you can slide in there.
21:44I mean, this is what happened last year. He drafted him and he had contingent upside.
21:49And when he played, he was a league winner.
21:52And when he didn't share time, you could hardly play him at all.
21:56He was a nothing burger in the playoffs, which is not great.
21:59So you got the Stevenson concerns. I don't care about like pass protection, ball security, anything like that.
22:04He's an elite talent. He's going to be an elite talent.
22:08It's just he went to the worst possible team.
22:10And we said that when he was drafted. And it rings true to this very day.
22:15God bless him. And I don't want to wish Ilan Ramondre because Ramondre is a great late round value or mid round value.
22:22I think one of the best values on the board, actually.
22:25So let's wait and see approach here. I don't think there's any camp speak coach speak that's going to influence how I feel about this one.
22:33And it's interesting to see the community feel the same way.
22:36Usually this would be a big tout, not a big tout.
22:39So let's get to another one here that really does break my heart a little bit.
22:44And it's Harold Fannin Jr., our third Brown of the program, which is very rare.
22:48Trust me, there will not be a fourth. There will be no Judkins talk today.
22:53Judkins is doing well. There will be no Watson talk today.
22:56That'll be after hours, the not safe for work program.
22:59So let's see here. What do we got with Fannin?
23:02Tight end seven. And what are the streets saying?
23:05The streets are saying this Browns offense is uninvestable.
23:07Mr. Wonderful style. Mr. Wonderful said that New York State was uninvestable with their tax laws.
23:12Are we saying that about the Cleveland Browns passing attack?
23:15It's possible. What is his role? Well, he's the receiving tight end.
23:18And he's expanding his role with Todd Monken coming in.
23:21This is a future star if he's not a star already.
23:25Just, you know, buried in the lead of one of the most historic tight end classes we've ever seen with Loveland and Warren and Gadsden.
23:32I think he's coming along. I think this will probably be, you know, this range of tight ends is usually like a
23:39tight end dead zone, like tight end four to tight end eight.
23:42And this year, you know, it's Warren, Kraft, Fannin, Laporta, Kyle Pitts.
23:46Like, I just don't know how much upside and downside each of these guys are going to bring your lineups week to week.
23:52I mean, it's a volatile situation. Sean Watson's coming in.
23:55He's never been a tight end producer. Todd Monken is coming over where they were extreme.
24:00He was an extremely wide receiver heavy part of that Ravens attack.
24:04Andrews and Likely were used overall a lot. But I think that was a little bit more about the lack of talent
24:10on the outsides for Baltimore outside of Zay. So you come in with Cleveland, you know, the upgrade from Judy and Tillman to Concepcion to Boston.
24:18I even like Isaiah Bond and spot starts. How much of a rushing attack is this going to be focused here?
24:24I guess I just don't know. But he's just he's not going as high as he should for somebody who just had a breakout season.
24:31And that probably speaks to the tight end position itself.
24:34So if you can get him in like the seventh or hell, even eighth round, because people are just out on this
24:41Browns offense, I think you're going to have a pretty nice little return on investment target competition.
24:46A lot of these guys have that offensive philosophy spread and touches.
24:49A lot of these guys have that. So praise his receiving ability.
24:53He's getting better as a blocker. And I think that he still has extremely high target share potential because we're talking about rookies that are his competition.
25:01We're talking about Concepcion, talking about Boston. I don't know if Judy's going to be a big target earner in this offense.
25:07I don't. And if he is, you know what, I'll figure out something nasty to do on camera.
25:13How does that sound for you guys? OK, now let's get to the next one here, because this is a speed show.
25:19And I'm trying to give you guys the caffeinated quick hitters, because I don't want to wax poetic about the ins and outs of the Todd Munkin offense.
25:27I do want to talk about Michael Wilson, though, who is Michael Wilson is down point eight as well.
25:33This is a guy who, you know, he's I honestly don't even want to talk about him too much, because I'm sure
25:39every show that you guys have listened to on every channel has covered this too much.
25:44So I just want to let you guys know he is down.
25:48He's best comparable as Michael Crabtree, which I love.
25:50If you ask 10 people in the fantasy football space how they remembered Michael Crabtree, I would love to.
25:56I think you'd probably get 10 different answers. I remember him for getting his chain snatched all time cut moment.
26:02Ball knower in the house. Appreciate you, bud. Happy Wednesday.
26:05Open a beer. Join me here. Let's let the party going.
26:08I hope everybody has some gnarly facial hair going on out there.
26:12It's going to be must a mustache ride weekend.
26:14And I know you guys have the surface areas on your face to do that.
26:19All fantasy football consumers do. It's just kind of our type.
26:22It's how we roll. All right. Michael Wilson. What do we got here?
26:26What's his role? Obviously, starting outside receiver, they're going to use him in the Pukunuku role.
26:30Reliable possession target will be a full time player.
26:33Got this Michael floor offense coming in, which should consolidate a little bit more around the wide receivers.
26:38He's an excellent route runner, strong hands, physical blocker, everything a coach wants.
26:42What are the concerns? Trey McBride dominates targets. Marvin Harrison Jr.
26:45is ascending. He was ascending last year. I think he had an 1100 game pace before the concussions and the appendectomy, appendicitis.
26:52You guys tell me. I don't know. I just think the ADP is good.
26:56I think Marvin Harrison. I'd rather be a year late on Marvin Harrison because I've been a year early twice now.
27:02Obviously, the ADPs are pretty palatable where they're going, and I don't think you're going to lose a lot from these picks.
27:09I also don't think you're going to get a lot.
27:12I don't know. I know Michael Wilson can be a plus player, so I just would feel better investing in him knowing
27:18that he's got that breakout that's already happened. He was the only guy to score against Derek Stingley last year, and he actually mossed his ass.
27:26Can we not just appreciate nice things? Marvin Harrison banged up.
27:29Marvin Harrison got the black cloud over him. I'm not worried about Trey McBride because we're not talking about a guy on
27:36this offense and Michael Wilson that's going to lead the team in targets.
27:39We're talking about a guy who could be top two, who can win in the end zone.
27:44He's a plus player just about all the way around.
27:47I know it's difficult to project that third banana, especially with a running back coming in, but I just think real-life value
27:54players, I know they don't always translate to fantasy, but they translate to on-the-field opportunity, and I think he showed last year
28:00that he's capable of making the most of that.
28:03I'm going to feel good about him, whether it's Brissette, whether it's Carson Beck.
28:07I just think if we progress, if we digress in passing ability on the QB depth chart, even if you get the
28:14Gardner Minshew, these are guys that have traditionally been wide receiver heavy passers, so we shall see.
28:19Michael Wilson, he's better at separating. He's better at getting open.
28:22He's going to make life easier on his quarterback.
28:25I think Marvin Harrison can do that. Show me.
28:27Don't tell me. Show me. All right, let's get to our last one here before we get to our risers.
28:33Who wants to rise up today? Who wants a fantasy boner?
28:36Well, let's pour some poo-poo on Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, and then we can get to it.
28:41Look at that best comparable, Damian Harris. Remember Damian Harris, guys?
28:44Remember when he was a thing? I sure as hell do.
28:47Remember when he wasn't a thing? I sure as hell do.
28:51Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt is another big follower. He's down 0.9.
28:53The streets are saying Rashad White is going to eat his lunch, and I get that.
28:58I'm not really here to talk about Ja'Cory today because I think he's a good runner, an explosive runner.
29:03He's a nothing in the passing game, and I'd be interested to see if he's given any high-value opportunities this season.
29:10My concern with this split is that this is going to be much more Zach Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker, with Ja'Cory Merritt
29:16being that Kenneth Walker role, Rashad White being the Zach Charbonnet role.
29:20We all know about the friendship he had with Jaden Daniels.
29:23They're running him out in team promos. Rashad White, that is.
29:26RB4 in 2023, largely off the back of 64 receptions.
29:29Never really profiled as a great runner, but last year with that infirmary ward of an offensive line, a Rashad White handoff
29:36was the second best EPA per rush in the entire league behind only Blake Corum.
29:40I don't even know how that's possible. I mean, he's big.
29:43He can be an explosive guy. Just never really had great vision, never really had great tackle-breaking ability, but he showed a
29:50little bit more of that last year. Can he improve with that?
29:53I think that's possible. Jaden Daniels is an upgrade from Baker Mayfield.
29:57The coordinator, David Blau, is better by default. I just have a weird feeling about this team.
30:02Yeah, he'll be the receiving back, and he'll profile as the goal linebacker potentially, but Jaden Daniels is the goal linebacker on this team.
30:09So if we're talking about a split, and you're not going to be able to rely on these guys week to week, we're just talking about depth.
30:17So are we talking about what is the rich man, poor man of this?
30:21Is Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt going to be able to rip off explosives like he did last year and score from 20 out?
30:28Then that's the guy I want. Are they going to get to the goal line much more frequently than they did last
30:34year, and Rashad White's going to sub in? Then yeah, that's the guy I want.
30:38So big build. Platypus is incoming. I like that.
30:41This is one where it's like, just go with your guy.
30:44I don't think there's a wrong pick from this backfield.
30:47If Keitron Allen emerges, then like, fuck it. You're not going to get starter ability from any of these guys.
30:53You're not going to get like, neither one of these guys is going to be in your RB2 spot or even in
31:00your flex spot unless there's an injury or unless you just fucking took six shots of 120 proof, barrel proof.
31:06What do I got in there right now? I'm trying to think.
31:09What's my mictors, right? Like you're just not going to be, unless you've fucked up your draft and you drafted for content
31:16like I always do, larceny, that's what I have right now, larceny, barrel proof, 120.1.
31:20That's going to be the only situation here. So there's not a lot of upside for either one of these guys unless
31:26they get the lion's share of the backfield. And I just don't think that's how they're going to operate this.
31:32That's how they didn't operate it in previous two years.
31:35And David Blouse coming up from in the organization.
31:38And he came from Detroit prior to that, and they didn't do that there as well.
31:43There's a lot of indicators that there's not some guy to own in this backfield.
31:47You're probably going to get a hodgepodge of production a multitude of ways.
31:51So Jaden Daniels was at his best last year when he had a guy rush over 80 yards.
31:56I think he had like a three to one.
31:59He won all of those games, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, actually.
32:03And that didn't happen a lot. And he didn't play a lot.
32:06But the sample size was, it was there. They need a balanced rushing attack.
32:10Let's see how good of a rusher Rashad White ends up being.
32:14All right, we're going to take a quick break.
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34:05All right. Our biggest throbber, our biggest riser, that's the word I couldn't think of, riser, is Kenny Britt.
34:10Kenny Britt, who was going in the 17th round.
34:13No, I'm sorry, guys. It's actually going to be another player here, but I accidentally clicked on Kenny Britt.
34:18Shout out Kenny Britt for 1,000 yards, five touchdowns, 13.1 points per game.
34:22Just an absolute baller. Quentin Johnson is going to be our biggest riser.
34:26And I mean, I get it. You know, like we all want the Mike McDaniel breakout.
34:31We're tabbing him as a yak threat. The streets are saying he's going to be in the best position to return on value.
34:38Starting outside receiver, primary vertical threat, big play weapon.
34:40I get that. The route running still needs developing.
34:43He's got a lower weekly floor than Ladd. And I just think he needs, like I said, more technical growth.
34:49But I do think this is going to be a smash.
34:52He's an elite athlete. Outstanding size and speed. Justin Herbert already showed he knows how to take advantage of him.
34:58Now, if the scheme can do a little bit more of that heavy lifting, we'll just feel like it's a perfect match made in heaven.
35:05I don't know how much weekly upside you're going to get or how much weekly floor we're going to get from him.
35:12But I think you have weekly wide receiver one upside on a smash.
35:16I thought Ladd showed a little. Maybe he's not quite that guy.
35:19You're not that guy, pal. So I get a little bit concerned there.
35:23But this is one of my favorite picks. All right, let's get on to our next one here.
35:28Who do we have? Ooh, this is a funky one.
35:31Aaron Jones is up. Aaron Jones is up 1.1 in drafts.
35:34And I think it's because people forgot about him.
35:37Look at that. Best comparable, Christian McCaffrey. What are the streets saying?
35:41The streets are saying this ground game was fierce with a competent QB in 2024.
35:45We're talking the lead back in a committee. He's the primary receiving back.
35:49And he's a veteran leader there in Minnesota. Excellent receiver, efficient runner.
35:52And the offensive environment is going to take a huge step forward with Kyler.
35:57And I do feel pretty good about him being a weekly RB2 with a flex floor.
36:01Jordan Mason will probably handle meaningful early down rushing carries.
36:04There is an age potential cliff coming with Jones.
36:07Soft tissue injury. I know that the more volume he got, the less he was able to handle that.
36:12So it does. I think we're probably not going to see that 2024 ceiling.
36:17That was very, very beautiful for drafters. But I think we'll meet a little bit more in the middle of where he was last year.
36:24So I think he's a solid value at ADP.
36:27I have little concern about his ability to remain productive when he's healthy.
36:30So if you're trying to bet on somebody, they're not going too far from each other in drafts.
36:36So I would still take Aaron Jones here. Now let's get to the big dog of the summer, Christian Watson.
36:42Best comparable Alec Pierce. Is that a skin tone thing?
36:45I don't know. He's up half a draft spot.
36:47The streets are saying he's the biggest value on the board at wide receiver.
36:51And it's hard for me to talk him out of it.
36:55What's his role? He's the Packers preferred outside receiver.
36:57He's their primary deep threat, and he's locked into two wide receiver sets, which we know is very valuable.
37:03Elite size and speed combo. Again, he was just been a metrics darling.
37:07Outstanding in yards per route run. Incredible fantasy efficiency.
37:09And he fits Jordan Love's aggressive style. You know, what did I say in the Josh Jacobs segment?
37:15They want to run the ball, set up play action, and hit big, deep shots down the field.
37:20Well, he's the guy to do that with. And the Packers target tree is consolidated with Wicks, with Dobbs gone, Bo Melton playing cornerback.
37:27And Jaden Reed, how often are you going to be on the field?
37:31Matthew Golden, do you have the nuts to be a starter in this league?
37:35We'll see. But I think this is weekly wide receiver one upside and weekly wide receiver 1.5 floor.
37:40So big smash. Obviously, there's durability concerns. Will his verticality role create volatility with this off on another team?
37:46Maybe, you know, if it was like the Colts, like Alec Pierce is on, maybe.
37:50But I don't think that's going to be the case with Lafer and Love.
37:55So the problem, the big concern for me is that you have to basically take him over Tucker Craft.
38:00Because I don't think I want both. And I fucking love Tucker Craft.
38:04So you guys wish me some luck there. He is one of the easiest value selections on the board.
38:10And that's pretty much a league-wide, fantasy-wide consensus, which I actually don't love when there's a consensus like that.
38:15But shit, man. He's been that guy, pal. He's been that guy, pal.
38:19All right. Another guy who has a big consensus.
38:22And this one makes me a little bit more nervo, but it's hard for me to argue against it.
38:27BTJ or Watson? Give me Watson. I'm taking Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville, and I'm not drafting anybody else, at least in managed leagues.
38:34Best ball, take flyers on everybody. Or if there's a drop-off, I got no problem with that either.
38:39But, man, just give me the facilitator. I might even feel that way about Caleb Williams, even though I'm souring on him a little bit.
38:47But I just want Watson. I want the big dog on a big dog offense.
38:51I don't know if there's going to be a big dog in Jacksonville.
38:55It's going to be like when you see a dog walker with, like, three or four different dogs on the leash.
39:01Or it's going to be like a soft-core orgy.
39:04Sometimes you just want the cameraman. It's just what we're all about here.
39:08I don't know how I got to that comparison, but I did.
39:11Jalen Waddell, best comparison, Steve Smith. I like to give you guys the best comparables because it's just one of my favorite touches here at Player Profiler.
39:19And I love this. But we've had enough history with Jalen Waddell that you guys already know what he's all about.
39:25The wide receiver 24 right now, the streets are saying it's a Sean Payton offense, and they traded a first for him.
39:32And shit, how do you argue against that? He's going to be the featured wide receiver.
39:37He's going to be the primary yak threat. He's going to be a big offensive playmaker.
39:41He's going to be, you know, if you sacrifice Troy Franklin and Marvin Mims and all these other little Jordan Humphreys, you
39:48know, if you sacrifice them to the fantasy gods, you put them together, you're going to get a guy who can do it.
39:55And I appreciate Sean Payton for just going out and getting a guy that can do it.
40:00I'm going to get shades of like those early Brandon Cooks, Saint seasons, where he's just going to be not just being
40:06utilized down the field, but intermediate, crossers, short game.
40:09Nobody's been better at making less with more than our boy Jalen Waddell.
40:13And you guys, like I said, you don't need the pros for this one, right?
40:17We know he's an elite separator. We know he's got outstanding speed.
40:20How are they going to use him as going to be the ADP determinant, heavy play action, screens, crossers, manufactured touches, all that.
40:27How much does the chemistry between Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton bleed into this?
40:31Probably not too much because you still had guys like Troy Franklin averaging 10 targets a game over the course of some
40:38months with Cortland Sutton still putting in those wide receiver two roles.
40:41So this is a team with a Super Bowl window.
40:44They need the one seat again. They need the home field advantage.
40:48They've got the defense. Bo Nix led the league in pass attempts last year with that defense.
40:53So why would that not change? They were the one seat in the conference.
40:57I don't see why anything would change in that front.
41:00What if, let's get back to this one real quick.
41:03What if Watson stays healthy? I think this is like a wide receiver 9 to 10 ceiling for Watson if he plays 17 games.
41:10I have no qualms, questions, thoughts about that whatsoever.
41:13If. If, man. So what are the concerns for Waddle, right?
41:16Obviously, there is some injury history there. Adjustment period with a new offense.
41:20But I mean, there's these guys that are so good.
41:23When they get traded, the really good players, they hit the ground running.
41:27Your Diggs, your Hopkins, your A.J. Browns. And I do think he's in that mold.
41:31Maybe not as top, top elite can win in a multitude of ways, but he's certainly like not without being considered in that conversation.
41:38And we've seen him do it before. So my biggest analyst note is like the biggest yikes here is that everybody believes
41:44this is a smash pick except for ADP. Like ADP is the only reason.
41:49And I guess that range is pretty high. Devonta Smith, Emeka Ibuka, Ladd McConkey, Zay Flowers, Devonta Adams.
41:54There's a lot of picks you can't really argue against, and I completely understand that.
41:58I guess what we need to come to a conclusion on as a group is what actually is the ceiling for Jalen Waddle?
42:05Is this a wide receiver one? Because I feel like all those guys I just listed have wide receiver one upside.
42:11So I would want to chase that if I think that's the case.
42:15But if Waddle falls to like that end of the fourth, early fifth even, and you're looking at him versus some of
42:22the running backs that are going around there, like Tootin, like Judkins, like David Montgomery, or you're looking at him compared to
42:28like some of the other wide receivers that are going, let's see here, going around that band, like your Roma Dooneses, like
42:35your Jamison Williams, like your Mike Evans. Then I probably still feel I'm feeling like I'm getting a smash pick there.
42:41So love me some Jalen Waddle there. And then there's a couple other guys that I just want to touch on as
42:47followers, although I don't have a lot of notes on because I just don't feel like there's not enough news.
42:53That's Kyron Williams, who's down, or who's sorry, he's a riser.
42:56He's up plus four. So I think you do the bell curve, right?
43:00Where it's like Blake Quorum is a great pick.
43:03Kyron Williams is washed. And then you come, or Kyron Williams is a great pick at the bottom.
43:08And then you come into the top of the bell curve and you're like, Blake Quorum, EPA per rush, alternated drives, ascending talent.
43:15And then you come back down and you're like, Kyron Williams is the fucking guy you want on this offense.
43:21They're the best rushing offense in the league last year.
43:24One of the best of the last 10 years.
43:27Great run blocking offensive line. Great offense. Going to be in the red zone a lot.
43:31He's the red zone back. All that stuff. Like, don't overthink this one.
43:35Kyron should be up there. I like Quorum. And I think he could bring contingent flex value.
43:40And he's the best handcuff in the league. But, man, I just think Kyron is just another sleeper honor.
43:46Let's end on this one. Because, guys, I'm going to be honest with you.
43:50I don't have a strong opinion on this one.
43:52Josh Downs is up two full spots. That's the second most of anybody either direction on risers and fallers this month other
43:59than Quentin Johnson, who was up 2.2. And, you know, there's reports.
44:02They're going to play him in the Z role.
44:05They're going to play him on much more two wide receiver sets.
44:09This is going to be an offense. It's not going to be able to throw the ball down the field as much,
44:15even though he is a pretty decent down the field player.
44:18So quick passing game with Jones. Could be having that Achilles.
44:22All that stuff should benefit him. I don't know, man.
44:25I just I'd like to see it a little bit more.
44:28There's guys going in that range that I just once again I think just has much, much more upside.
44:33I mean, like I'd prefer. Where's he going here?
44:36I prefer Chris Godwin. And then, like, what do we got?
44:39Who else do we got here? Josh Downs. You got Jordan Addison.
44:43Chris Godwin. Michael Wilson's in that range. And then even a little bit later, like Ricky Pearsall, Michael Pittman.
44:48Just guys I've seen do it and I know can do it over the course of the season.
44:54And some of those guys I even think could lead their team in targets.
44:58I don't think Josh Downs is going to do that with Tyler Warren there.
45:02Now, like, the reason I said I don't know how to feel about this one is because maybe I'm overthinking it.
45:08Michael Pittman's gone. Alec Pierce is hurt. Tyler Warren is still just a tight end.
45:13Um, so obviously Tyler Warren can be top two in targets, but can Tyler Warren hit 100 targets?
45:18Can Josh Downs? I don't freaking know, man. He had 107 in 2024.
45:22Granted, that wasn't with the same quarterback. So I just it's a pick that I think is a good addition to your roster.
45:29I just don't know how many weeks you're going to be like, so glad I drafted Josh Downs.
45:34And that's more of a gut than it is a profile or instinct thing.
45:38Best comparable up here is Emmanuel Sanders. And Emmanuel Sanders was a league winner at certain points in his career, mainly because
45:45of the quarterback and the offensive ecosystem he played in.
45:47This is a team that wants to run the ball.
45:50And it's a team that wants to hit you a Tyler Warren, you know, bubble screen for yak.
45:56And then it wants to throw deep to Alec Pierce.
45:59I don't know how Josh Downs fits into that.
46:01All right, that will do it for risers and fallers today.
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46:09So much unbelievable work went into that. We've got write ups on every player.
46:13We've got write ups on every team. Matt even put out his personal rankings this year was a nice little additional addition.
46:20We appreciate all your guys support. It is going to be one hell of a draft season.
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