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The FF Dynasty - NFL Training Camp Hype Reactions

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2 hr 11 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Aug 1, 2026
Published
Sat, August 1, 2026
83
Player insights
46
Players mentioned
Topics
Marvin Harrison Jr.Jaylen WaddleD.J. MooreJosh DownsCeeDee LambD'Andre SwiftDavid MontgomeryJonathon BrooksTucker KraftAmon-Ra St. BrownBrock BowersDeVonta SmithJosh AllenJustin Jefferson
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A.J. Brown

PositiveValue28:47

The source identifies AJ Brown as part of the defending champion's elite roster in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, listing him among the juggernaut team's core assets alongside Justin Jefferson and other premium players.

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Alec Pierce

NegativeInjury32:00

Alec Pierce is dealing with a procedure-related recovery and is currently on the PUP list; the Colts anticipated this timeline and had him in a walking boot during OTAs and mini camp as part of the plan; source advises not panicking about his status in redraft/best ball formats but views him as a strong dynasty buying opportunity if his price has fallen due to PUP designation; injury appears to be ankle-related and managed as expected.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

NegativeRole66:49

The source mentions Amon-Ra St. Brown as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at wide receiver.

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PositiveRole70:11

Part of a strong roster alongside Josh Allen and Trey McBride that makes the team a 'juggernaut' in a 10-team dynasty league.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue59:42

The source identifies Brock Bowers as part of the defending champion's elite roster in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, listing him among the juggernaut team's premium tight end assets.

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PositiveRole69:00

Highlighted as part of an opponent's elite tight end duo (alongside Tucker Craft) that gives that team a significant advantage; the source uses Bowers and Craft as examples of the 'oomph' that makes the opponent's team a juggernaut.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeRole0:33

The source mentions Carnell Tate as a rookie on a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as part of the team's depth at wide receiver.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveValue4:38

Identified as sticking out 'like a sore thumb' on a rebuilding team's roster; the source suggests he's a prime trade target, with the implication that acquiring him would require significant assets (e.g., a 10th and 27th pick) and could meaningfully improve a contending team.

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PositiveValue71:48

The source discusses CeeDee Lamb as a high-end target in dynasty trade discussions, suggesting he is a player worth packaging multiple assets to acquire in a 10-team league context.

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PositiveValue75:57

The source reiterates CeeDee Lamb as an elite target in dynasty trades, though acknowledges it's always a difficult ask to acquire him.

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Chase Brown

PositiveValue28:47

The source identifies Chase Brown as part of the defending champion's elite roster in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, listing him among the juggernaut team's core running back assets.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeRole19:30

The source references Christian McCaffrey as the primary running back for the 49ers, with backup running backs competing for 60-70 carries and 12 targets on the season as long as McCaffrey remains healthy.

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Chuba Hubbard

NegativeValue75:36

The source mentions Chuba Hubbard as a player on a middling team in a dynasty league, noting he may not provide significant trade value in discussions.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeRole67:02

The source identifies DJ Moore as a flex option on a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting he is one of the team's additional flex starters beyond the starting three wide receivers.

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NegativeRole69:36

Part of an opponent's three-wide-receiver arsenal alongside Josh Downs and AJ Brown, providing that team with more flexibility in putting together three-wide-receiver lineups in a 10-team dynasty league.

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NegativeValue74:58

Mentioned as a potential trade asset to upgrade a dynasty roster; source suggests Moore could be packaged in a deal to address roster needs without touching the starting lineup.

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NegativeValue77:25

The source suggests DJ Moore as a potential upgrade candidate in a 10-team dynasty league, indicating he could be traded away to upgrade at other positions.

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D'Andre Swift

NegativeRole66:56

The source mentions D'Andre Swift as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at running back.

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PositiveRole73:27

The source highlights the D'Andre Swift and Jaylen Warren combo in Pittsburgh as really nice, suggesting both have fantasy relevance in the Steelers backfield.

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NegativeValue75:55

Source suggests Swift as a potential trade asset; mentions packaging Swift with Mouhga to trade down to a rebuilding team in exchange for Derek Henry and other assets.

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Darren Waller

NegativeValue75:55

Source mentions Waller (likely 'Monunga' in transcript) as a potential trade asset; suggests packaging him with D'Andre Swift to trade to a rebuilding team in exchange for Derek Henry and other assets.

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David Montgomery

NegativeRole66:46

The source mentions David Montgomery as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at running back.

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NegativeValue73:00

The source recommends cashing out on David Montgomery while you have the opportunity, suggesting his value may decline or his role may be at risk.

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PositiveValue74:58

Source identifies Montgomery as a valuable trade asset in dynasty; suggests pairing Montgomery with another piece to trade to a rebuilding team in need of running back depth, positioning him as a useful mid-tier asset for contending rosters looking to upgrade without sacrificing starters.

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Deshaun Watson

NegativeProjection39:30

Deshaun Watson is likely to win the Browns QB battle; source expects him to be 'okay' or 'just mediocre' but better than recent performance, with the weight and stigma lifting; the Browns offense appears to be a better fit for Watson's preferred operating style than Stefanski's system, suggesting an easier transition and potentially longer leash given the team's investments.

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DeVonta Smith

PositiveValue67:05

The source identifies Smith as a strong starting wide receiver in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, noting 'we like Waddle and Devonta Smith a lot' and positioning him as part of the team's starting three receivers; the source suggests Smith's value is sufficient to compete in a competitive league despite roster depth concerns elsewhere.

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NegativeValue67:05

Characterized as a money winner value loser in dynasty; positioned as a very good piece for a 10-team contender but with the caveat that if ceiling outcomes don't materialize, the receiver room could underperform. Preferred over Justin Jefferson in a cash-out scenario.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection57:01

Drake Maye is part of a strong dynasty roster with first-round startup value; source identifies him as a first-round caliber quarterback in startup drafts.

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Jalen Coker

PositiveRole39:00

Jaylen Coker benefits from the Brazel injury; source expresses strong preference for Coker, stating 'I like Coker a lot' and praising his end-of-season performance last year; the Brazel injury creates additional opportunity for Coker in the backfield.

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Jalin Moore

NegativeRole66:46

The source mentions Jalen Moore as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at wide receiver.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection57:06

Jaden Daniels is highlighted as a first-round startup caliber quarterback on a dynasty team with strong overall roster construction; source notes he goes into the first round of a startup draft.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveValue67:05

The source identifies Waddle as a strong starting wide receiver in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, noting 'we like Waddle and Devonta Smith a lot' and positioning him as part of the team's starting three receivers; the source suggests Waddle's value is sufficient to compete in a competitive league despite roster depth concerns elsewhere.

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PositiveValue67:05

The source positions Waddle as a strong starting wide receiver in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, noting he is part of the team's starting three receivers and comparing him favorably to the defending champion's roster depth.

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NegativeProjection68:13

Viewed as a very good piece in a 10-team dynasty contender, but with a caveat: if ceiling outcomes don't materialize and he averages around 13 points per game, the receiver room could lag. Compared unfavorably to AJ Brown on an opponent's roster.

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NegativeValue74:54

Mentioned as a potential trade asset to upgrade a dynasty roster; source suggests Waddle could be packaged in a deal to address roster needs without touching the starting lineup.

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NegativeValue77:25

The source suggests Jaylen Waddle as a potential upgrade candidate in a 10-team dynasty league, indicating he could be traded away to upgrade at other positions.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveProjection73:53

The source projects Jaylen Warren as RB2E this season, noting that Aaron Rodgers' departure to Tampa means Warren will likely catch a fair amount of balls to remain fantasy relevant while Rico Dowdle gets most of the touchdowns.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeRole66:46

The source mentions Jonathan Brooks as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at running back.

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NegativeValue74:34

The source recommends packaging Jonathan Brooks in trades before he gets hurt, suggesting injury risk or durability concerns are a reason to sell now rather than hold.

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PositiveValue74:58

Source identifies Brooks as a valuable trade asset in dynasty; suggests pairing Brooks with another piece to trade to a rebuilding team in need of running back depth, positioning him as a useful mid-tier asset for contending rosters looking to upgrade without sacrificing starters.

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Jordan James

NegativeInjury19:00

Jordan James suffered a broken rib injury during training camp, which is a tough injury to work through. The source notes James was having a good camp before the injury but now faces a recovery period. With Kaelin Black waiting in the wings, if Black performs well during James's absence, it could be difficult for James to regain his role and standing with the coaching staff.

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Josh Allen

PositiveValue32:42

The source identifies Josh Allen as a strong quarterback option in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, noting 'he's got an advantage in the QB room' and that 'he can compete with juggernaut' despite roster depth concerns elsewhere.

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PositiveRole70:11

Highlighted as part of a strong roster that includes St. Brown and Trey McBride; the source notes this team is 'a juggernaut' but the other team is 'not that far away' despite lacking some of the top-end names.

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Josh Downs

NegativeRole20:42

The source identifies Josh Downs as a flex option on a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting he is one of the team's additional flex starters beyond the starting three wide receivers.

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NegativeRole69:36

Mentioned as part of an opponent's three-wide-receiver arsenal alongside DJ Moore and AJ Brown, giving that team more flexibility in lineup construction for a 10-team dynasty league.

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NegativeValue74:54

Mentioned as a potential trade asset to upgrade a dynasty roster; source suggests Downs could be packaged in a deal to address roster needs without touching the starting lineup.

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NegativeValue77:25

The source suggests Josh Downs as a potential upgrade candidate in a 10-team dynasty league, indicating he could be traded away to upgrade at other positions.

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Justin Jefferson

PositiveValue4:38

The source identifies Justin Jefferson as part of the defending champion's elite roster in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, listing him among the juggernaut team's core assets alongside AJ Brown and other premium players.

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NegativeValue69:24

Mentioned in a receiver comparison where Devonta Smith is preferred in a cash-out scenario, suggesting JSN may be overvalued or less preferred in that context.

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Kaelon Black

NegativeRole19:00

With Jordan James suffering a broken rib injury, Kaelin Black gets an opportunity to earn meaningful snaps as the backup running back behind Christian McCaffrey. The source notes Black was the second running back taken in the NFL draft and has been getting hype at camp. While James had the early role, Black's draft capital and the injury to James create a window for Black to prove himself and potentially lock in the backup role, though the source cautions that pass protection remains a concern.

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Mac Jones

NegativeDepth Chart56:57

Mac Jones is positioned as a backup quarterback waiting in the wings on a dynasty roster that already has Drake Maye and Jaden Daniels as starting-caliber quarterbacks.

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Malik Nabers

PositiveBreakout4:24

The source identifies a generational buying opportunity on Nabers after training camp reports showed him running routes with no restrictions and looking good. Despite earlier injury concerns, the source notes he's 23 years old with offensive upgrades everywhere except offensive coordinator; the Giants added Isaiah Likely and invested in the offensive line, creating potential for a concentrated offense with 150-160 targets for Nabers, 110 for Likely, and 60-70 for Cam Scadabo. The source emphasizes not overreacting to injury news in dynasty and views Nabers as a strong buy-low candidate.

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PositiveInjury35:00

Malik Nabers has progressed from concerning post-surgery mobility (gimpy-looking jog at celebrity softball game in April/May) to looking 'really, really good' in recent camp clips; source cautions against overreacting to off-season conditioning footage and emphasizes that current on-field performance matters more; Nabers is the second-most important player on the Giants offense after the quarterback and should not be rushed back if still recovering.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveProjection28:47

The source believes Harrison Jr. is still capable of turning in pro-bowl caliber, if not all-pro caliber seasons, despite recent obstacles. The source advocates for deeper statistical analysis (P whopper numbers) to evaluate what Harrison Jr. is actually doing versus his targeting volume, suggesting his true production may be masked by usage patterns.

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NegativeRole28:47

Training camp concerns center on drop issues and physicality; source notes he dropped balls on film and appears underwhelmed from a physical perspective, comparing his on-field intensity unfavorably to Andre Johnson's level of aggression and dominance.

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NegativeRole28:47

Despite flashes of pro-bowl to all-pro caliber potential, Harrison Jr. has faced significant obstacles to consistent production: quarterback instability in Arizona (including a mid-season change), an appendectomy that caused missed time, and inconsistent targeting patterns that don't align with his actual on-field performance. The source notes he showed well on Monday night football versus the Cowboys but emphasizes the lack of predictability due to quarterback volatility.

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PositiveBreakout43:00

Marvin Harrison Jr. has faced significant negative media attention and price depreciation during training camp, but source argues the criticism is overblown and driven by clicks; recent drops and off-speed throws are being mischaracterized (e.g., a duck pass blamed on Harrison, or a ball thrown three feet in front of him); source recommends buying the dip using 'codenomics' strategy, similar to Anthony Richardson, as there is 'too much evidence' that Harrison is 'good at football'; scouts and evaluators throughout the league are 'completely puzzled' by the negative narrative.

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PositiveValue43:29

Despite training camp concerns and price declines, the source maintains conviction that Harrison is talented and should be bought at lower prices; scouts throughout the league remain puzzled by his ADP decline, suggesting broad belief in his talent; he ranked at the top in red zone targets, zone targets, and first-read target share in 12-game sample, indicating the play caller and quarterback trust putting the ball in his hands as a plus for the offense.

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NegativeRole43:29

The source questions whether Arizona is the right situation for Harrison to develop, noting that the environment may not bring out the best version of him; however, the source cautions against overreacting to camp news and emphasizes that Harrison's consistency issues stem from injury setbacks (appendectomy, concussion) rather than talent decline, and that he remains a hold rather than a fade.

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NegativeBust44:30

The source acknowledges that Harrison's draft class peer Malik Nabers has clearly outperformed him, creating a narrative concern that owners may be 'stuck holding the bag' with Harrison; however, the source argues this is not a reason to abandon the position, as Harrison will not experience a career collapse like Rasheed Rice, Treylon Burks, or John Baldwin.

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PositiveProjection46:20

The source cites a recent interview where Harrison discusses focusing on negative aspects rather than positive ones, and notes that his confidence appeared to recover after catching a touchdown pass in the Seahawks game, where his body language visibly shifted from emotional distress to relief, suggesting psychological recovery and continued upside.

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NegativeRole46:46

Harrison's confidence and body language have been scrutinized following a difficult early performance in the Seahawks game, though the source notes this concern may be overblown; Harrison's press conference comments about focusing on areas to improve rather than positive plays were interpreted as a confidence issue, but the source characterizes this as self-awareness rather than a genuine red flag.

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PositiveValue48:12

The source believes the buying window for Harrison is still early relative to broader market awareness; while dynasty fantasy football insiders are already pricing in the hype from training camp, the average fantasy player is likely one to two weeks away from fully absorbing the narrative, suggesting early buyers have a timing advantage before the market fully reprices upward.

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Michael Wilson

PositiveBreakout47:48

Michael Wilson has emerged as a receiving option in training camp, catching passes that Harrison dropped; the source notes that Wilson received minimal attention from the fantasy community until week eight of last season, suggesting his current camp visibility represents a potential breakout opportunity that may be undervalued relative to the narrative shift.

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Mike Evans

PositiveValue76:24

The source suggests Mike Evans as a potential trade target to help a middling team get over the hump in a 10-team dynasty league.

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Omarion Hampton

NegativeRole66:56

The source mentions Marion Hampton as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at running back.

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Patrick Mahomes

PositiveValue4:38

The source identifies Patrick Mahomes as a strong quarterback option in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, noting the team 'got Allen in my homes' and that this QB pairing gives the team an advantage in the QB room.

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Rashee Rice

NegativeValue26:00

Rasheed Rice's fantasy value is currently depressed due to injury and suspension concerns; if healthy and clear of suspensions, he would likely be a first-round redraft pick, but current circumstances allow him to be redrafted later in the process rather than kept in the fourth round; in a keeper league with roster depletion, Rice could be acquired in the second or third round of the redraft.

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Rashid Shaheed

NegativeBreakout31:18

The source expresses aggressive conviction about Shaheed's upside despite Seahawks organizational concerns; maintains bullish stance despite team's struggles, stating 'loving Shaheed is wrong, I don't want to be right,' indicating strong personal conviction in his fantasy value despite external pressure to fade the Seattle offense.

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Rico Dowdle

PositiveRole73:53

The source indicates Rico Dowdle will get most of the touchdowns in the Steelers backfield, positioning him as the primary goal-line back while Jaylen Warren handles pass-catching duties.

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Rondale Moore

PositiveRole72:30

The source suggests Rondale Moore is a depth asset that can be packaged in trades, particularly leveraging the hype around Arizona's new offensive coordinator Aranda Ganston.

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NegativeValue74:58

Mentioned as a potential trade asset to upgrade a dynasty roster; source suggests Moore could be packaged in a deal to address roster needs without touching the starting lineup.

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Skyler Bell

NegativeRole66:40

The source mentions Skylar Bell as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth on the team.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeRole75:57

The source mentions Stefon Diggs as one of the old receivers on a middling team in a 10-team dynasty league, suggesting he may be part of trade discussions.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeRole66:49

The source mentions Tee Higgins as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at wide receiver.

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Terry McLaurin

PositiveProjection76:51

The source projects that if Terry McLaurin reverts to form and Jane Daniels reverts back to his level from a year and a half ago, McLaurin will win you money, suggesting upside if the Commanders' quarterback situation improves.

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PositiveValue82:36

Source expresses strong preference for acquiring Terry McLaurin in dynasty trades over CD Lamb in a 10-team league; believes McLaurin can help a contending team "get over the hump" without costing as much, and notes that if McLaurin returns to his historical form, he provides significant value to help win now.

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Tre Harris

NegativeRole66:49

The source mentions Trey Harris as part of a competitive 10-team super flex dynasty roster, noting his presence as depth at wide receiver.

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Trey McBride

PositiveRole70:11

Part of a strong roster alongside Josh Allen and St. Brown that makes the team a 'juggernaut' in a 10-team dynasty league.

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Treylon Burks

NegativeRole39:00

Treylon Burks is making plays in camp; source notes he is 'probably still on several teams just chilling' at the end of the bench, suggesting limited role clarity or opportunity despite camp performance.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveValue23:00

In a keeper league scenario (keep three), Tucker Craft in the 12th round represents exceptional value as a top-five tight end even without tight end premium scoring; consensus ADP places him around rounds 6-7 in 12-man leagues, making the 12th-round keeper cost a significant discount; source recommends keeping Craft alongside Scat and Kyron as the optimal three keepers.

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PositiveValue66:08

The source identifies Tucker Kraft as part of the defending champion's elite roster in a 10-team super flex dynasty league, listing him among the juggernaut team's premium tight end assets.

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PositiveRole69:00

Positioned as part of an opponent's elite tight end duo (alongside Brock Bowers) that provides significant championship-level advantage in a 10-team dynasty league.

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Episode Transcript

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1:00Booyah! What's good? We're up. We're live. Oh, we got a fresh crack.
1:05We're back. Took a little vacation. Boy hit the mountains up.
1:08Got some cool mountain air in his life. Had to take, but hey, we're back.
1:13We're ready. We're ready to roll. Season August is going to be a banger, and we are then going to be right into the season.
1:21And then I would say no more days off, but the boys got a day off at the end of September.
1:27Going to miss a week of football, unfortunately. A week of football?
1:31Yeah, a weekend of football. Where are you going?
1:34Me and the missus are going to a music festival in Kentucky.
1:38Snuck up to the mountains. Got a little taste of what early retirement life might be like.
1:43Oh, golly. Summering and 65 degree, no humidity is just chef's kiss.
1:47It's real nice. Then today was a blisterer out there.
1:50Had to change my underwear midday. Well, not because I'm...
1:53What's up, boys? Good to see you in the chat.
1:56Good to be back. I'm excited. How are we feeling, boys?
2:00Oh, well, I am... My nickname today is Professor Mudbutt, so you might want to ask Big Co.
2:06Well, you're on the side of the dirt, though, so that's good.
2:09Big Co. How you doing? Big Co is semi-retired, so that's...
2:13That a boy. That a boy. It was a hot and sweaty day today, and I didn't have to go work in it.
2:20That was very, very nice. Yeah. Yep. This ended my run of like a week and a half of not having to
2:27work in it, and it was brutal. Yesterday, I just tried to walk outside for 10 minutes at a time to reacclimate, but, you know, Charles...
2:35Walk outside for 10 minutes to reacclimate. Just keep going in and out, you know, just because I've been in AC or mountain air for a while.
2:44That's right. We're at the beach, boy. You know.
2:47Yeah, you got to get back into it. Got to get back into it.
2:51So, obviously... I just got out of it. Just got out of it.
2:55We got some training camp stuff going down. Lots to talk about here, and we've got questions.
3:01I know some of y'all asked some questions last week, and we didn't go live.
3:05Like I said, Dad took the day off, so we didn't quite make it on air, but we're back.
3:11We're going to answer all the paid questions that we have, but we're going to start off with some training camp chit-chat.
3:18And shout out to all the crowdsourced people and the people using theffdynasty.com.
3:23905,000 swipes currently, so hopefully we can get over a million before this season starts.
3:27We're trying to get the redraft in there. Ran into a few snags, but hopefully soon you'll be able to swipe on some redraft.
3:35You can see it up there at the top, but we're edging closer and closer to being able to do that.
3:42And we are working on ADP for that. So, join the free Discord if you want to hop in.
3:48Redraft mocks, because we've just kicked them off. We're going to do some fast ones.
3:52We're going to do slow ones. We're always going to have something rolling.
3:56So, make sure you check that out. And if you are in the $7, $15, $25 Discord, please join those and roll with us.
4:04So, kind of jumping into it here. Where do you guys want to start?
4:08What's been the most interesting bit of camp hype, news, hate that you guys have kind of seen today?
4:14Is Malik Neighbors is out there running around looking good.
4:18There was a Brazel injury. Pierce saw knee injury.
4:20But Stribbling's shining. Hey. Where do y'all want to go?
4:24You could have just stopped with Malik Neighbors. We can start there.
4:27We can stay there. We can remain there. So, no pup from Malik Neighbors.
4:32We're out there running routes. No restrictions. Let's go.
4:35Listen, we talked about the beginning of the season.
4:38There's a generational buying opportunity for guys like CeeDee Lamb, Patrick Mahomes, you know, and Justin Jefferson.
4:43And now it looks like there was a generational buying opportunity on Malik Neighbors.
4:47If you could just have the intertesticular fortitude to say, hey, yeah, I'll send the first and the second from Malik Neighbors.
4:54He could be had. I pulled that off in the league.
4:58I was thrilled about it. I almost called my doctor because I was suffering from priapism, if you know what that is.
5:05But, yeah, I'm curious to see you guys' thoughts.
5:08You got Neighbors? Wait a minute. You got Neighbors for a one and a two?
5:12Yes. A current, like in the draft, early first on the clock or next year's first?
5:17Like a 27 first and a 27 second. That's way too cheap.
5:21I know. I'm pretty excited about it, too. You should shut the curtains because the boys are looking for you.
5:28Yeah. No. Well, there was just been, you know, me and Big Co, we probably spent 40 minutes alone on an episode
5:34just talking about Malik Neighbors just about and what we would trade for him and basically that there is a generational buying
5:41opportunity and that he's probably going to be just fine.
5:45Now, hopefully in seven days, he hasn't tweaked something and he's sitting out and he does end up on Pup, right?
5:51You know, we're not out of the woods yet, so we don't want to go crazy celebration.
5:57But this is generally, you know, in 2026, like it's the overreaction to every single thing that can help you pay dividends,
6:04especially if you get into the echo chamber of the internet.
6:07Even in like, you know, no shade to anybody in the comments, but there's been plenty in our comments just in live
6:14shows and when all Neighbors is cooked. And it's like, well, everybody's always cooked whenever anything happens or they have a bad
6:21stretch or they don't start their career off awesome.
6:24You know, it's just like, oh, could we, could we relax a little?
6:28But, you know, Malik Neighbors did look good out there.
6:31I think, I think Big Co and I both agreed that there was, you know, buying opportunity here and we were pretty excited to do so.
6:39I know, I know, like I said, Big Co very, was very bullish on the fact of wanting to buy Malik Neighbors.
6:46So. Dude, I mean, I just, we can't, we can't overreact to, it's like, we can't overreact.
6:52To the new, hey man, it's not, he had a second procedure.
6:55We can't overreact to those things because it's dynasty.
6:58He's still 23 years old now at this point.
7:01And we've gotten upgrades everywhere except offensive coordinator for Malik Neighbors.
7:05And he's going to be great for Jackson Dart.
7:08And Jackson Dart needs someone like that to make it, make it an easy button, make it an easy button style offense.
7:14They added Isaiah Likely. There's a very strong likelihood that this runs through 150, 160 targets from Malik Neighbors if he's fully healthy.
7:22And another 110 for Isaiah Likely. And a 70, 60 to 70 for Cam Scadabo.
7:26This could be a really concentrated offense. You know, they've invested in the offensive line.
7:31They've done, they've done all the things, but hire a good play caller.
7:35Yeah. I mean, you know, Nagy had a little bit of success here and there, but he's been, you know, definitely the butt of some jokes.
7:44Roman is usually somebody who, you know, has ties to hardball, who has an okay stretch for a little while, but never
7:51is somebody who's going to elevate the offense to the high.
7:54Like I've always referred to him as like a training wheels part.
7:58He can get the offense going in the right direction, but he's not, he's not going to take the, he's not going
8:05to be the one that teaches you how to ride the actual bike.
8:09And, you know, he's certainly not going to get you doing any cool tricks, you know, teach you how to run the
8:16football next to the bike, but he won't actually like put you on the bike and run it.
8:22All right. And any thoughts on neighbors before we move on here?
8:25No dip bought dip bought Jeremiah. I see your question in there.
8:29I appreciate you. I will absolutely jump over there for sure here in just a second.
8:34But is there any other, before we jump over to Jeremiah's question or yeah, Jeremiah's question.
8:39Is there any other things that you want to absolutely hit real quick off the top that, that has really stuck out
8:46to you guys or has been something that's, you know, negatively or positively stuck out to you guys?
8:52I mean, you hit, you hit stripling, you, you, you, you hit stripling pretty quick.
8:57We could spend, we could spend a couple of seconds there.
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9:51They are here to help. Well, you know, I've been vocal on like, Hey, I think Pierce all if healthy could be
9:58a big part of this offense and be Kyle's number one.
10:01We've kind of all alluded to that moving. Yeah, not this year, but in the future of the 49ers.
10:07And I think that's kind of what they were hoping and believing in.
10:11Now we're having some, you know, it is basically August at this point, but if you're having some knee swelling already, that's,
10:18you know, this is already somebody who's been for one reason or another through his fault or not.
10:24Had problems of staying on the field. And now we're seeing it again.
10:28I'm not going to lie like that. That definitely my, my knees are a little shaky.
10:33I got, I got, I got hit and I'm like, Ooh, I don't know if I, I need to, I need to duck and move for a minute.
10:42I don't know if I need to be trying to swing on anybody right now.
10:47I gotta, I gotta get my legs back under me first.
10:50So, but the stripling part of it has been awesome.
10:53Like, you know, I, I, I saw the only negative comment I saw was from Des.
10:59As, and then I saw multiple people being like, that's not how they run the, that's not how they run their receivers.
11:05And that's not how they line up because they, they, they have tighter formations and do different things.
11:11So there's some route running officiant. Right. But stripling looked, has looked very, you know, at times in certain clips and it is what's.
11:19No, no. Stop with the caveats, bro. All right.
11:22Let me do it. It's a different gear. I will say that since you're, since you're a 49ers fan and you want
11:29to, you want to temper the expectations. Here's the thing from, we'll read, can we do 32 beat writers?
11:35Absolutely. Oh, this is from Grant Cone. It's a cough.
11:38Not him though. Not him though. This is, this is, this is now, this is how, you know, this is, this is.
11:45So he did something cool because Grant Cone is a covers the team, but he's a noted 49ers hater.
11:51I don't know if he's a Seahawks fan. Like he's just one of the most annoying people.
11:56And this is me. He's a troll. He makes money off being a troll and somehow he gets away with it.
12:03And it's ridiculous. So I'm going to run through this real quick.
12:07Call five passes from four different quarterbacks, including a leaping grab over the middle on a high pass from Adrian Martinez.
12:13Stripling isn't Brandon. I you or Ricky Pierce saw when it comes to route running, but the 49ers are finding ways to
12:20scheme him open and get him the ball on screen slants and digs.
12:24Expect him to have a highly productive rookie season.
12:27Even if he's not the number one receiver on the team.
12:31Yeah. I mean, look, we, we came in and we, we, at first I, I didn't love the stripling pick.
12:37Cause it's like, I think everybody in the, nobody in the draft was sitting there except for maybe some people in some
12:44front offices was sitting there going like, yeah, stripling there.
12:47You did see a little bit of echoes like, Hey, stripling is going to be one of these guys that everybody isn't really talking about.
12:55That goes pretty high. And he ends up going really high.
12:58And at first you're like, damn, why'd you do that?
13:02There's some other guy I would have loved this or this fit was good there.
13:06And then it's like, well, now that you've, now that all the chips have settled and everything is kind of like when
13:13you go back and watch, you know, one tape, he was, he did one thing.
13:18And when you go watch the other tape, he did another thing.
13:22So it was like, he, there's a multiple dimensions of, Hey, I can, I can, I can crush in the middle of the field.
13:29I can crush going down the field at Ole Miss.
13:33You know, he's, he's a very put together, well-spoken young man.
13:36He's big, he's fast, he's physical. And it's just, it's, it's something that you were like, Hey, well, it may not be
13:43this year, but that's how quickly these things change.
13:46And he may, he may just have to sit and wait his turn and you might see him in.
13:52And that's still maybe the case. Maybe Ricky Pierce all comes in here and plays, you know, almost the full season.
13:59And this knee thing kind of goes away and, and Christian Kirk comes out there and plays a reasonable amount.
14:05But, um, you know, right now he's getting huge opportunity.
14:08And the other two guys I just mentioned are two guys who haven't put together a full season and God knows when,
14:15at least since Ricky's been in the league or Christian Kirk, I can't tell you the last time that he played, you know, all 17 games.
14:23Right. So it seems like the opportunity is going to knock early and often, and he's cashing in on it right now.
14:30And it's awesome. I mean, he's got, it looks awesome anyway.
14:34Yeah. He's got the three Fs fundamental, fast and physical.
14:37Like let's, let's lock that in. Nothing. Damn. I thought that was a good one.
14:42I was drinking. That was a good one. You right in the middle that I was like, Oh, how many times did
14:49I draft this man in my rookie drafts? We got a ton of strip and the FFPC early rookie drafts.
14:55Thanks to Casey. Um, and I had, I was not up on my strip and we were on the clock.
15:01No, no, no, no. This is in May. This is an early May.
15:05This is in May and FFPC rookie. And I wasn't up on my strip and we were at two, three on the clock.
15:13And Casey was like, I think we got to look at strip here.
15:17And I was like, right now. And you know, there's a bunch of drafts going on.
15:22So we had to rock and roll. But within the next week or three, I caught up on my strip tape and
15:29I was like, Oh my God, I'm about to get this guy everywhere.
15:33Like there's still people on sleeper people sleeping. Yeah.
15:36Like I just, I got him at two. 10 to 10 in a draft with, with you the other day.
15:42I, it's a $50 league. It's not the, uh, you know, it's not a $500.
15:47The coast. Yeah. I think I, I think I just got him at two 10.
15:52I had to give up a 20. I had to give up a 20, 28 second round pick to trade in to get him.
15:59Cause I couldn't believe he was still on the board.
16:02And the only reason I waited that long to start trading is cause I got him at like two, three, two, four, two, five.
16:10And a whole bunch of sleeper rookie drafts already.
16:13And so yes, Casey, I'm, I'm riding passenger seat in the, uh, strip train.
16:17Yeah. He's, he's been somebody who, especially if you're not, if, if, if, especially if you're drafting on sleeper, right.
16:23The ADP for a while, at least you had to type him in and he was way down there.
16:29So it was very advantageous. So like people would just forget because it wasn't, it already wasn't a household.
16:36And then you're going through it. And then like, he's not anywhere near, you know, those top ranked players.
16:42And you know, it is what it is. You're going in the rookie draft, you're, you're trading, you're doing things and you know, you can't, you can forget.
16:50Yeah. Well, I know we probably need to move on, but let me get 30 seconds here.
16:56Nobody's going to go out. Most likely there are some people, there are some film guys out there in the, in the
17:03sleeper streets, but most people aren't going to go watch strips individual games.
17:07If you watch strips highlight tape, you will get a, you will get the action that Casey, you know, was alluding to.
17:14You will see him work short, intermediate and deep and look good doing all of it.
17:19You will see him break a tackle 10 yards from the line of scrimmage and then outrun everybody else to the house.
17:26And you'd be like that, that yes, absolutely. Put that guy on my team.
17:30So I recommend checking out a highlight tape. I do say that his highlight tape is like 15 minutes long because man was making highlights.
17:38I think it takes, you know, it's over two seasons, but anyway, give it, give it three minutes.
17:44Just turn it on for a second. If you don't know what's going on, if you still got a rookie draft, so
17:51you can figure out how high to take him in the second round.
17:55Yeah. Well, you can, you know, obviously at, at, at old miss, they used them, you know, kind of stretching the field
18:02a little bit more, you know, but at Oklahoma state, they were using them a little, you know, there there's a little
18:09bit more of like, Hey, this is, this is what 49ers a couple of years ago did with guys like Debo and
18:16not comparing him to Debo, but like, well, there's a little bit more of this is right.
18:21We got a big physical guy here. And like the last, the last thing that everybody saw from him was not necessarily
18:28like this route running middle of the field prowess.
18:31So you do have to go back a little bit, but I do, I do really like Oklahoma state tape was like,
18:38this is by far the best player on our team.
18:41And we're going to get this guy, the ball as often as possible.
18:45Right. Well, before we hit on Jeremiah here, who was kind enough to throw some cash in here, appreciate you.
18:52And I've been, I hate you up on, on the, on the discord.
18:56I don't, I don't think I ever heard back from you.
18:59But before we move off for the Niners here, and maybe we could double back on Pierce all at some point.
19:06And you guys could tell me how worried you are about them, but Jordan James broken rib here.
19:12Gotta be pretty excited for any black ownership right here.
19:15All right. That's a crazy, it's a crazy way to phrase that.
19:18I wasn't. Yeah. Kaelin black. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Way to fumble that.
19:22Way to fumble that Casey. I tweeted, I tweeted out when I saw the Jordan James rib injury.
19:28I said, this is a shout out to black ownership, you know?
19:32Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get some better small business loans for the community.
19:36Hey, we're for the people. That's right. Listen, I, this is his time.
19:40This is his chance. This is his chance to get, to earn his 12% target share or 12% backfield share, snap share behind CMC.
19:47As long as Christian McCaffrey is healthy. We're just whoever you're competing for 60 to 70 carries and 12 targets on the season.
19:55Yeah. Just, you know, I don't know. I don't know what to, I don't know.
19:59Jordan James is having a good camp and he got hurt late, but now Jordan James gets hurt early.
20:05So if black comes out here and shows, you know, like, Oh shit, we can't put this back in the bottle.
20:12I, you know, I don't, I don't think, I don't think James can get back in the good graces if black just
20:19kind of, and a broken rib is going to be, you know, that's a tough thing to, to be out there, you know, trying to work through.
20:27Right. I mean, it took, was, was Kaelin black, not the second running back taken off the board in the actual NFL draft.
20:35Yeah. Actual NFL draft. Yeah. So you have, you have the, if you're a draft capital snob, you can get all, you
20:42can get all worked up in your downstairs mix up about that.
20:45But I just, I just, I don't know. I think that this is, this is the, this is the time.
20:52Yeah. He is 1000% going to end up being the backup running back.
20:56They talked about how they liked him in pass protection.
20:59Now we just saw that go really poorly with a guy who everyone touted as one of the best pass protectors ever.
21:06Yes. So we can't put too much stock in that.
21:09Just hopefully he gets that part figured out so that he can, he can actually get some meaningful snaps and we can feel better about.
21:17Right. Early indication though, was a lot of hype for black, but James had the, had the role.
21:23Yeah. So, you know, this was, which was kind of to be expected because they did really like him.
21:29So third running back after Jadarian price. Third. Yeah.
21:32Crispy hit us up in the, in the chat real quick on that.
21:36He was, he was fast. Um, but yeah. So Kalen black has been very, uh, I think we just forget about love.
21:43Cause he was at five, you know, or whatever.
21:46Uh, Oh yeah. Yeah. We're just like, yeah. Cause he was up, he was out there with the quarterbacks where they normally get drafted.
21:53Right. Um, I said this back off the board.
21:56Did I not? You said it's second up, but price price.
22:00Oh God. You, you, you pretend like you pretend like price isn't even around.
22:04I do. I do. I choose not to, I choose not to actively, I choose not to participate because that is a
22:11Venus fly trap of fucking fantasy points. And I will not, I will not be sucked into the damn Seattle vortex of bullshit for 2026.
22:19I'm not. Let me tell you the one quick, easy way to get past some of that.
22:24I highly respect the head coach McDonald. I've really, I think we all were like, damn, obviously they overachieved last year, but it's not, wasn't a complete accident.
22:33Right. We all saw that turnaround coming. We just didn't think the offense was going to be able to carry that much weight.
22:40We knew the defense was going to be top three.
22:44Um, I don't think with a head coach that smart, that new age calculated, right.
22:48I don't think a calculator, I don't think a head coach that forward thinking, not to say the GM hasn't had a
22:55good run and his, you know, has a part probably pulls a ton away, but I don't think that coach, I don't
23:02think they're taking a running back at the end of the first round and not use them.
23:08I just, I can't, I can see it happen in a plenty of teams.
23:12I just, I can't see it happen in there.
23:15Yeah. And guess what? He was catching passes today.
23:18So, I mean, he can, he has hands. He does.
23:21Yes. I'd like to say he does have hands.
23:24I'm talking about running backs that have hands for 10 years price over the shoulder today.
23:29It was nasty. Yeah. We did see that. We did see that.
23:33All right. Um, let's, let's throw Jeremiah's question up on the board here.
23:37Keeper question. Keep three. Um, what's craft into 12th scat in the eighth Kyron and the 10th rice in the fourth 10
23:44team keeper league to running back three wide receiver to one tight end.
23:48Um, craft into 12th seems pretty obvious. Is that, is it, is it PPR half point PPR full point PPR tight end premium?
23:55Is it, is it? Yeah. Jeremiah hit that. He hit us up on a, he said something about, um, not being great in a discord.
24:03So he was here just a second ago to give us a little bit more, but let's just assume his PPR, um, scat in the eighth.
24:11I think that's pretty easy too. So that's two of them.
24:15Got to keep three. Craft into 12th is got to do that.
24:18I think I would keep, I'd keep craft scat and Kyron.
24:22Kyron in the 10th. Yeah, for sure. That's where I, that's where I'm landed.
24:26If you're, if you keep three. Yeah. Kyron scat craft.
24:30You can redraft rice and he's, you know, he's already going to be what I have the 10 spots.
24:36So rice would be first pick in the fourth.
24:38Okay. Not tight end premium. So if it's not tight end premium, do you want it?
24:43Would you rather have Rashi or do you still stick?
24:47We got to go with craft that late, right?
24:49I mean, where's craft that late is where's craft going generally.
24:53It's not that you, it's not that you don't want rice is that you could draft another player with that draft pick
25:00and you get Tucker craft into 12th round. Even with no premium, he's still top five tight end.
25:06Yeah. I mean, he was a tight end too before he got hurt.
25:10So, but this is, you keep all, you keep really good players.
25:14Kyron's basically a fourth round, you know, fourth round pick scats five, you know, five, six, and then Tucker craft is six, seven.
25:21Uh, I apologize. I just so happen to have a podcasters.
25:24He definitely did the six, seven dance. I just happen to have a mock here, um, that we're doing right now.
25:31Um, and Tucker craft is that six, nine and a 12 man.
25:35Yeah. So. What's the six free rounds? I mean, it's, it's not that you're like basically.
25:40Yeah. Yeah. You start from the back and taking the best players in the latest rounds possible.
25:45I usually like to warm up a little first and then go to the back.
25:50I like to get a little warmed up before I get back there.
25:54But, uh, if you're going to get right to it, then, uh, yeah, no, I just, I just think for me, I
26:01think there's just too much value in. And so where is scat packing this the fifth round?
26:06Yeah. Or fourth round four or five here, but I mean, yeah, we could call it.
26:11And if we look at it and I did, I fucking did it.
26:16Oh, okay. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Ah, this is a mock that we're in.
26:20We're doing right now. We're going to, Casey's going to show us, Casey's going to show us his cue guys.
26:27And I'm going to start sniping the shit. I don't have any guys in the queue.
26:32I don't know what I'm, this is my first redraft mock.
26:35I ain't even going to front, but I mean, four rounds of value.
26:39If we're just basing it on this four rounds of value on, on scat pack around the value on Rasheed rice, six rounds of value on Tucker craft.
26:48I just, a Kyron. Oh yeah. Kyron went to third in this one.
26:52Cause I took Kyron in third. Cause I still believe like, we just talked about Kyron the other day.
26:58And I got, I just so happened to have like a consensus ADP from him, not from us yet, but from some, from another website, uh, three, 3.5.
27:07So he's at basically right where you took him in scats at 4.5, right where you took him, uh, in the consensus,
27:14you know, ESPN sleeper and Yahoo or something else with a bunch of drafts all combined.
27:19So, um, that's right around on value. And I think where you're going there with it, Shev is, um, kind of right
27:26on, right on time of just like the, the value that you're getting, um, off of all those other players is like, you could just redraft rice, right.
27:35Um, if you want now there's, it's a keeper league.
27:38So the pool will be depleted and it'll be the, you know, where rice goes, won't be the fourth at this point.
27:45Right. Cause there's going to be keepers, but, um, you could, you essentially are.
27:50And, and rice is not like rice's value is so good.
27:53Right. Like if rice was right, if rice didn't get hurt, if rice didn't have suspensions, he'd probably be damn near a first round redraft pick.
28:01So then you'd be like, Oh yes, of course you have to keep it right.
28:06But right now the value is a little depressed on him.
28:09So I think, I think we got it. I think it's craft scataboo Kyron.
28:14Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you really, I mean, if you really want rice back, just take them in the third
28:21round or the second, you know, or I mean, it could even be a first round pick because like I said, you're
28:28going to, there's going to be a bunch of depletion going on when you start.
28:33So there's, you know, the first 10 guys are not going to be the first 10 guys that we see on this mock right here.
28:40Yeah. Right. Like all those guys are probably kept kept almost exactly.
28:44So, all right. Well, I am on the clock.
28:47This is my team here. I got B. Sean, Brees, AJ Brown, Bucky, Terry McLaurin, uh, Fanning Jr.
28:53I took Tyson. I didn't, I didn't love my choices at that seven, one spot.
28:58Um, where would you go? Here, chef. What's your thoughts?
29:01Let me see. Let me zoom in here a little bit.
29:04Oh, there we go. It's a two. I get action.
29:07The two early for me to take Wanda. I was a little early for the old one.
29:13I don't know. I don't know. Just a little bit.
29:16Just a little bit. Little, little, little redraft mock for your pleasure here.
29:20A little bonus content. Um, I don't love any of the running backs here.
29:24Nope. Not in love with it. And I'm okay there already.
29:28I already have three. I feel okay about that.
29:31Jacoby Myers. I'd rather have Wanda. I think, um, Jaden Reed, Matthew golden.
29:35I get to pop two off here. My none guy.
29:38I'm in all. It's not a tight end. You just took Harold Fannin.
29:42Yeah. Almost certainly not a tight end. You like my none guy here.
29:46What's the quarterback? You got to take my none guy.
29:49If you get a chance, if you get, if I get all, I got a chance right now.
29:55I could, well, it's too much, too much upside to leave them on the table.
30:00I got Herbert, the homes Brock. Yeah. I feel like there's still, there's a, there's a pretty thick tier there that you're, that you're, that you're good with.
30:09All right. Well, I'm kind of Wondell. Wowzers. Fuck it.
30:12Wowzers. I just feel like there's just some. Who could be awesome, but.
30:16If you're going to do that, just take, you take Michael Pittman.
30:20I could take Michael Pittman. Yeah. I would take, I would take Pittman.
30:24I mean, you would take, everyone's taking Pittman over Wondell.
30:27Yeah. I mean, I hate. I got both of them.
30:30So I absolutely hate Michael Pittman. And I said, definitely should have.
30:34Definitely should have taken. You like Monunga. The guy.
30:37Yeah, I do. Monungus. But I don't like looking for wide receiver a whole lot later anyway.
30:42So I don't mind that a double tap you got there.
30:46Yeah. I mean, Monunga gain well, Aaron Jones. So we're just getting into the redraft streets.
30:51Like I said, I, this is my, this is actually really, I mean, I've done a decent amount of best balls, but
30:58like this is my first redraft slow mock that we're doing.
31:01We're going to have fast mocks join the discord.
31:04We're going to have slow mocks. Keep it rolling.
31:07We'll have ADP for your pleasure here. Coming soon.
31:10Anything you want to talk about before we get off the screen here, boys?
31:14Oh, I, so. Yeah, I've been having some aggressive visions about Rashid Shaheed.
31:18You're back on your Shaheed shit, huh? Yeah. I was never, I was never off.
31:23The Seahawks almost forced me off. They're like, sir, this, this ship is sinking and you're going to die.
31:29If you don't, if you don't get on the life raft.
31:33And I was like, nah, loving Shaheed is wrong.
31:35I don't want to be right. That's right. I think I'm the only one without a quarterback.
31:41Oh, Dougie doesn't have a quarterback. Well, I got, I auto, I auto the court.
31:46I didn't mean to take, I didn't mean to take old Jackson dark.
31:50Oh, the soaking assassin himself. All right. Well, here's a, here's a good, we'll get back to some camp news here.
31:56And then there is a couple other questions we could answer real quick in there.
32:01And we do have questions on the site. But Alec Pierce at eight, nine.
32:06And I, and I just was on the clock in a best ball and I don't, I could look it up where I actually took them.
32:14But how are we feeling about Alec Pierce right now?
32:17If we go back to the kind of the camp hype stuff, you know, they're, they're, they're saying, Hey, maybe one or
32:24two more weeks before we see him, he's dealing with some, some potential, you know, discomfort there maybe.
32:30And then, you know, maybe a little bit of a, you know, Ballard has said, Hey, maybe at some point we need
32:37to, in a week or two, maybe we need to assess what veterans are out there.
32:42And in digs or Debo or, you know, Keenan Allen, or I don't, I'm not putting any of those names in his mouth.
32:49But there was part of a quote where he was talking about potentially perusing the veteran aisle.
32:54So how are we feeling about Alec Pierce and the Colts?
32:58Daniel Jones cleared JT having a hold in of sorts.
33:01You just need to me, we just need, we just need him to get, I mean, what, how, how puffed up is he?
33:08I guess it's just, you know, we need to get busy.
33:12Yeah. We just need to, we just need to figure out what this, what type of pup.
33:17This is just a tiny amount of pup, just a teeny piece of pup.
33:21Are we talking weeks in the camp pup? Or are we talking, Hey, we just need you.
33:27We're going to start you here. And then as soon as you can pass the physical, you come off the pup.
33:33Right. Here's, here's the thing. This, especially right now, like redraft.
33:37If you got a draft anytime soon, redraft best ball, whatever you can dodge these guys, but like dynasty Alec Pierce right
33:44now, if anybody, if he's on the pup and there's a lot of pup, that's a great buying opportunity.
33:50He got really, he got relatively expensive for his price really quickly.
33:54And I'd love any kind of new found buying window to get more Alec Pierce.
33:58So whether that's through startups this year where he falls a little bit, cause he's on the pup, he has a little
34:05PUP beside his name or in an existing league where, you know, somebody wants to start hot and they want to trade,
34:12you know, if he, if he's hurt, he got an ankle problem, whatever, like a banded redraft, maybe actually knock them down and, and, and let it count.
34:21Hmm. All right. The old, the old say, you don't, you don't draft hurt players.
34:26Right. But in dynasty, but you're fine with, you're fine with neighbors right now though.
34:31And redraft, like I have it to, I've, I've got 25 underdogs under my belt at this point, or at least past where neighbors is drafted.
34:39I don't have one neighbors on underdog yet. The value was so good.
34:43I can't, I just kept clicking them. I was getting it.
34:47I get it. If it doesn't go my way, I lost 10 bucks.
34:51If it goes my way, maybe I want a million for sure.
34:54For sure. But in the last, right, right. But in the last like two weeks, you know, where he was at the,
35:01he started to potentially creep in the fourth round now, but like in the middle of the third, it's like, I got,
35:08you can't know you're not getting another Malik neighbors there.
35:12You're right. You're not wrong. You're right. But like, if he does not play the first four or five, six weeks, I've been all along.
35:19Like if just after that second surgery is like, what are we doing here?
35:24This man is an absolute monster. If outside of the quarterback, he's the most, you know, you know, I can say do new defensive linemen, red rushers.
35:32But like Malik neighbors is the most, the second most, uh, you know, important player on the giants.
35:38You know, right. So like, shit, like, why are we rushing this guy?
35:42Maybe nobody around there thinks that's rushing, but all of a sudden he went from things are a problem and he can
35:49barely jog to first base on a celebrity softball game.
35:52And now he might play week one, yada, yada, every Twitter doctor and their brother was like, this guy's missing half the season.
36:00This is again, this is why, this is why you can't get the, this is one of the downsides of the 24 hour news cycle.
36:08Yeah. Cause yeah. Okay. Was Malik neighbors running this shit?
36:11Like was, was he running the first base? Like his life depended on it?
36:15Or was he just kind of trotting around fucking around?
36:18Like not being, not taking it very serious, not caring if everybody on the internet was going to overreact to it.
36:25Right. Oh, it's a gimpy looking dog. Don't get me wrong.
36:28I'm sure you saw it. Like it was not a slow jog.
36:32It was a gimpy looking job. It was like something ain't right jog.
36:36But now there's clips out there from him. Again, today he looks really, really good.
36:41And that's what matters. I don't, I could care less what he looks like jogging around a base in, in, in April or May.
36:49I, I, I will die on that hill. Like, I don't, I'm not gonna, I'm not going to overreact about people were freaking out about to jump subjects.
36:58Well, let's, let's tie it back to what we were talking about originally.
37:02Alec Pierce. How scared am I about Alec Pierce?
37:05Not that scared. If we get to pads coming on and joint practices and stuff, and Alec Pierce still isn't practicing, then I'll freak out.
37:12We knew, they knew, the Colts knew that he was going to have to have a procedure in the off season.
37:19They knew that he was going to be in a walking boot during OTAs and, and mini camp.
37:25And this seems like it's all part of the plan.
37:28It's not like, oh, this is unexpected. So that's why I said, how pumped up are you?
37:33Are you just weeks away from being able to contribute or is it just, you need to pass a physical, you need
37:40to pass the, the, the physical and the conditioning test to be allowed to, to be allowed to practice.
37:46Are you going to step out on the field and, and have a setback?
37:51Are you going to, you know, that's just, that's really, you know, really the only one, once, once we pass a little
37:58bit of time of him being on the field, I'm, I'm cool with it.
38:02But yeah. And I mean, like they're still, if I'm not mistaken, they reported a few days ago.
38:08So they're just, they're, they're just now getting through the ramp up period to where they can, you know, to where they
38:15can go and put pads on and stuff. Right.
38:18So yeah, we just have to, we have to condition ourselves.
38:21You guys do a tremendous job of, of being a thermostat, not a thermometer.
38:26And we have to continue to condition ourselves to not freak out about news in, in, in May, in, in April.
38:32So, and, and when they're, when football is months away from being played, I don't care what somebody looks like to look,
38:39there's a picture of two looking fat on a boat, on a yacht during the off season.
38:45Does that back problems right now? Hey, but the, the point in all that, the point in all that being, I can't, I'm not going to react.
38:53I'm not going to react to, to not football stuff in negatively impacting someone.
38:58Yeah. I just, I, I won't do it. Yeah.
39:00Okay. That's, that's good. And other, and other news, Trelon Burks making plays.
39:04Hey, what is this? Is this, you're not fooling me.
39:08I'll play. I'll portray Lombarks is probably still on several teams.
39:11Just chilling. Oh yeah. At the end of the bench.
39:14I can't, I can't quit him. Just chilling. All right.
39:17Before we, I want to jump over to the questions here.
39:21I had a couple more things on the list here.
39:24If anybody wants to take anything, I mean, the Brazel injury is even better for Coker, right?
39:29Not that I thought he was really going to do anything, but I think I, I like Coker a lot.
39:36Um, I thought he was great at the end of last year.
39:40I love what we're seeing. Um, so that's great.
39:42Uh, we'll see what happens there. Um, Brown's QB battle.
39:46Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Deshaun's probably going to win that one.
39:49Um, and would, would we, would we be shocked if Deshaun comes out here and is, is okay.
39:55You know, just, just mediocre, right. Just, but better than he's been like all that, all that just weight and stink is kind of off of them.
40:04This offense seems to be something that would be more in the wheelhouse of how he wants to operate than what Stefanski brings to the table.
40:12Right. Um, so I find that, that I just feel like it's going to be a, an easier fit and transition.
40:19And they're going to want to see if they can get anything out of Watson with this person.
40:24They made all the investments. He's probably going to have a little bit longer of a, of a leash.
40:30Right. Um, so yeah, it's either that or he won't be on the team because this is the last year.
40:37Right. Right. Um, that's, I don't know how that goes.
40:40If he's not named the starter. Yeah. You had a little JJ Kyler Murray dust up.
40:45I like that. Love that. Love them. I love them.
40:48I love them boys. Are getting school me. What happened?
40:51I just, I just saw them. Did they shove each other?
40:55Yeah. They were shoving out there. I think I did not Kyler.
40:58They, they, Kyler might've thrown a pick or something.
41:01And I don't know if JJ was barking from the bottom.
41:05Exactly. I don't know what happened, but I saw a clip right before we got on here.
41:10That's AI. That was AI. Somebody got you. Maybe they didn't.
41:14I saw it really happened. Saw a dust up.
41:16That would be like the perfect first fake camp battle AI thing to do is those two guys get mad at each other.
41:24Can you describe the ruckus, sir? It wasn't like a ruckus.
41:27They were just, they were just kinda. Sorry. That was a breakfast club.
41:31Did they, did one of them poke the other one through the face mask?
41:36Yeah. He put us up. Yeah. Like Captain Insane.
41:39All right. Last one though. I think, because I just feel like it's everywhere right now.
41:44And Marvin Harrison, right? Every, every single person is making money right now off of hating on Marvin Harrison.
41:50So is this something that, and you know, when you, and I'm not trying to defend Marv by any stretch of, of the imagination, right?
41:58Who's the better guy to have in dynasty shriveling or it's shriveling is way more valuable than black.
42:03I just saw that one come in. So shriveling for sure.
42:07I'm not trying to necessarily defend anything that Marv is doing or isn't doing.
42:11But is, is all of this hate warranted and have you worried at all?
42:16Or is this something that it's like, this is something that is getting clicks right now and people are interested in.
42:22So everyone just keeps pressing the button again. He's had a couple of drops here and there.
42:28Has he been running full speed, full ramp up on everything?
42:31No. And then like, well, then, then they show a clip of, you know, Michael Wilson running the same things.
42:37And like, well, yeah, the ball just hit Michael Wilson in the chest for Marv.
42:42It was fucking three feet out in front of him.
42:45Not that he shouldn't catch it, but like, then there's like, oh, he drew Marv.
42:50Why is Marv dropping this ball? They see another angle of, and it's a fucking duck.
42:55And I'm not trying to defend him. I'm just saying that like, it just seems that like, this is, I don't know.
43:02And I'm maybe tell me I'm off base here.
43:05Listen, actually, I don't know where you're going. I don't know where you're going.
43:09So I just, do you want to go first, Corey?
43:13I'll chime in. If you need a second to really figure out if you're going to hammer this guy's, you know, coffin in the ground.
43:20No, I'm not going to hammer his fucking coffin in the ground.
43:24What I'm going to do is I'm going to say, hey, now is the time.
43:29If you've waited for this long, we're going to pull, we're going to pull some codenomics and we're going to pull an
43:36Anthony Richardson where we just keep buying the prices.
43:39It gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. Like this is, this is where, this is where you can't abandon your priors.
43:45Like, do we think Marvin Harrison Jr. is good at football?
43:49That's not a rhetorical question. Like, yes, I do.
43:52I do. There's too much evidence to point to the fact that he is indeed good at football.
43:58Yeah. And I was, while I was reading something about how most of the scouts and evaluators throughout the league are just
44:04completely puzzled as to why it has gone the way that it has with Marvin Harrison Jr., which leads me to believe
44:11that everybody and their mother still believes that he's fucking talented.
44:15But Casey, it goes back to a thing that you and I talked about at the beginning of the season last year.
44:22I just don't think that this is the place where he, we're going to get the best version of Marvin Harrison Jr.
44:29Obviously. And I, and it could change on a dime.
44:32I don't like, I don't like overreacting to, to camp news like that because it's, it's counterintuitive to what we believe about a player.
44:40Oh, he dropped the ball. Oh, is he not, he's not good.
44:43Oh, Casey, we did an episode in the early in the off season where we talked about how he was at the
44:50top in 12 games played 12 guys that play 12 games or less.
44:54He was at the top in red zone targets, in zone targets, first read target share, all these, all these things that
45:01say my play caller believes that putting the ball in my hands is a plus is a plus for the offense.
45:08My quarterback is able to, my quarterback is, is throwing me these balls.
45:12It's just a matter of getting it, getting, developing the consistency.
45:16And every single time we got a flash, it was like, we, we get, we get hurt or he has an emergency
45:23appendectomy or he gets a concussion or, and now going into, going into year three, we still have those unanswered questions and
45:30it hurts worse because the other guy in his class that it was a debate between, you know, do we take Malik neighbors?
45:37Do we take Marvin Harrison? There's no question that Malik neighbors has been better.
45:41So now you're like, well, am I just stuck holding the bag with Marvin Harrison?
45:46I don't think you are, but even still, even if you are like, let's keep buying.
45:51There's no, there's no, there's no way. There's no planet where he's going to pull a Rasheed Rice and you're questioning what his future is in two years.
46:00It's just get the football together. And it's been, Oh, it's been okay.
46:04It hasn't been shitty, right? He's not pulling a trailing Burks on you.
46:08He's not pulling. He's, he's not pulling a John Baldwin.
46:11He's not, he's not just gonna, he's not going to just disappear.
46:15I'll help it. So I, we just got to calm the hell down.
46:19I feel like, but that's, that's my rant here.
46:22Okay. I like it. I like it. I mean, that's typically my job around here.
46:27But right. Oh, and we, I think this, and I feel like what I just have recently seen is we saw the
46:34interview where he's talks about, you know, negative, how he just, he thinks about the negative.
46:39He doesn't want to think about the positive stuff.
46:42He thinks about the negative things and people are saying, well, his confidence is shot.
46:46And we, we all collectively, it was the Seahawks game where he had a terrible run out in the beginning of the
46:53game and in the back half of that game, he catches a touchdown pass.
46:58And you could just see this just emotional block, like kind of just fall off of his shoulder.
47:04You could see it in his body language of just like, oh my God, thank God I caught that ball.
47:10Yeah. You know? Yes. And that is, that, that is the only reason that man will fail as if for whatever reason, his confidence gets shot.
47:18And now everyone's hip to, oh, where's Marv's confidence?
47:21Like, and they're taking it from that press. Conference is just him not trying to like, he was basically saying, Hey, I'm,
47:28I'm aware of the things that I'm fucking up.
47:31Like I've, I'm not looking at the positive stuff.
47:34I'm looking at the things that I can get better at.
47:37Right. And so I think that was slightly overblown there.
47:40And then, you know, every time I turn around, it's, you know, well, he dropped the ball and then Michael Wilson caught it.
47:48It's like, you know, Michael, y'all boys didn't give a single fuck about Michael Wilson until last year, about week eight, not
47:55a one of you, not a single one of you.
47:58Nobody cares. I like him. I mean, we all could, a lot of people liked him, but he was dead for so many minutes.
48:05I agree with Shev that the buying window, I don't think the buying window is quite as open as it will.
48:12I think this is our, we're early to the buy window party, right?
48:16The spin it, the, you know, I think the average person isn't quite as on top of this as we are as
48:23the, the dynasty fantasy football Twitter community. Like most people are probably another week or two away from really hearing this go
48:30through all the podcasts for the next week and see in all these clips and all this stuff.
48:36We're, we're, we're just going to see that stuff the first day.
48:39Right. So we're probably, it's a week or two away from maybe maximizing that buying window.
48:45The ship is saying is, I don't disagree. The one thing I could say is you should have laid out some really
48:51good examples and the she rice example. And like he's, Marv's not going to go do something crazy and get in trouble,
48:58but you do, if you want to play the, what could happen, this non-zero chance one meter up today.
49:04What's that about? Yeah. If you want to have, if you want to do the not fun meter and you just want
49:11to say, Hey, this actually could happen. It's very, very unlikely, but it could happen.
49:16Maybe this is his daddy's dream. Maybe Marvin Harrison, maybe Marvin Harrison wants to be a pilot.
49:22Maybe, maybe, maybe that man wants to be a truck driver.
49:25Maybe he wants to go work with T-Rex. Maybe he wants to drive NASCAR.
49:29You know, he's too tall, but I'm saying, I just, I don't think you dominate college football like that because it was your dad's dream.
49:37Right. You could dominate college football a lot easier than you can dominate.
49:41You certainly can, but like you, you would, if that's your dad's dream, you go to college and you go do like you, you go do something else.
49:50I didn't say it was a highly likely situation.
49:53Yeah. I've seen plenty of people. It is possible for sure.
49:57It is possible. Does he love it? And I mean, listen, you've seen people say that.
50:02I haven't seen that. I'm not copying that from anybody.
50:05No, no. I'm not saying that you are. I'm just saying, I've seen that same theory of, of floated out of them,
50:12which is, is, look, there's plenty of guys in the league who were like, Hey, this is, this is my ticket to get to somewhere else.
50:20And so, and I don't even, they don't love football like that.
50:24And that's what makes the difference between when we talk about guy, like, do you love this shit or not?
50:30Like you're not going to be able to, very few guys are just going to be able to not love it and be good to great.
50:38I think Marv, for sure. Maybe he doesn't love it.
50:42Maybe like his dad loved it. Potentially. He's also not on the Colts with Peyton.
50:46Yeah. What are we doing? Arizona will do that to you.
50:50You, you, you, we stick him with awful with in one of the worst organizations.
50:55There's one of the few organizations that I can, I can unequivocally say is worse than the Titans.
51:00Yeah. You stick him in the worst environment possible with a quarterback who I, again, we talk about not loving it.
51:07He was clearly checked out and then they, they decided to move on from a midway through the season.
51:13He finally gets the breakthrough that he needs. And then he gets, and he has to miss time for an appendectomy.
51:20You saw him look good on Monday night football versus the Cowboys.
51:23You saw him, you've seen these flashes, but we, we didn't have any sort of predictability with the inconsistency at the quarterback position.
51:31And is he, is he a guy, is he an Andre Johnson where he just over, he makes Matt Schaub look like
51:38a pro, like a, like an above average quarterback for years on end.
51:42Probably not, but is this a guy that's capable of turning in pro bowl caliber, if not all pro caliber seasons?
51:48I still believe that. I just, you have to, you have to evaluate what he's actually doing and whether or not, I
51:55think this would be a great case for our boy, Joseph to give us some P whopper numbers on, on Marvin Harrison jr.
52:03Because I think that what he's actually doing and when he's targeted and how often he's targeted are not lining up with what he's actually doing.
52:11I like it. Yeah. I mean, I think that's, could be certainly part of it.
52:16And I, you know, he's obviously not somebody who is always just a, just the speediest guy ever, but you know, he's a big physical presence.
52:24He obviously knows where to, what to do out there.
52:27Confidence is number one, but, and the, the other thing is, is like what, what the difference may be between him and
52:34what his dad is, is maybe slight love, but also just like it.
52:38And I, well, I can't, I don't want to say this because I, there's allegations on his dad, but like in no,
52:45and no using this as a, as a metaphor, like he's not a killer.
52:49He doesn't seem like he's got that killer. Like his dad has, right.
52:54His dad's just, I know, I know, I know, I know.
52:57I didn't know how else to say it. Yeah.
53:00You know, I know, I know that's so good.
53:03Hey, we're, we're far enough removed to where you can go figure out whatever the hell.
53:08I didn't, it wasn't how I didn't say it that way because of just tough.
53:13If you want to, you want to Google it, Google it.
53:16Yeah. Right. I, I, it was a tough times, make strong men, strong men, make easy times, easy men makes, you know, weak men, weak men.
53:24Like I'm not saying he's weak. I'm just saying he didn't grow up like his dad.
53:29No chance. He grew up. His dad's a hall of favor.
53:33He grew up a millionaire. And the last thing we need to move on from Marv.
53:38The biggest thing that Marv needed to do with that, other than the fact that it was being filmed and he was dropping the ball.
53:46If he didn't just have those drop, the only thing he needs to do is not get hurt.
53:51They want a training camp. Right. Right. So I don't really have a prep up, but right.
53:57I don't have a problem with him going three quarter speed.
54:00I don't either. I don't have a problem with that at all.
54:04The biggest thing we need, the least thing he needs to do is go get hurt and be like, and now he's
54:11hurt and blah, but you know, just catch those balls that come close.
54:15Just, just get those, just snap those, just snap them.
54:18So we don't have to have those pictures of those easy drops on Twitter flying around.
54:23And now everybody's making clickbait, but there is something behind, you know, it's not just clickbait.
54:28He dropped those balls. That's what I mean. Just catch the ball.
54:32You can run as slow as you want to run.
54:35Just don't drop those. Also, I think, I just, I think that we're, we're all underwhelmed with what, what, from a physicality perspective on what it looks like.
54:44Correct. That's what, that's a big part of it too.
54:47That's number one from confidence in that. And that's where that, you know, anecdote came from, from, from me of just being
54:54like, if, if that would just get turned up to the Andre Johnson level where he was a, he was a calm,
55:01cool kind of guy behind the scenes. Didn't say much, which is kind of like, seems like what Marv is.
55:08If he could turn it up on the field, like Andre and what did to your boy, you know, out there Corlin
55:15Finnegan, yeah, you know, breaks off his ass. All right.
55:18So hit this question. And then that'll take us into the first question that is on the website, because these are kind of close.
55:25Yeah. I have a philosophy question. I've been tanking for two years.
55:29I'm ahead of schedule. I have six first round next year and three seconds, two thirds.
55:34It would be an ugly tank, but I'm willing to do it.
55:38Well, let me, let me chime in here. Cause we're ready.
55:42And in the books that we're going to hit.
55:44And it's basically the same exact question. I don't think it's it.
55:48I may be the same guy. Cause his name's Cameron too.
55:52So Cameron, we're about to be looking at your team.
55:55It looks like the same exact guy. So you have six first round picks says, and in three seconds, you don't have
56:02to take, if you got half of the first round, right?
56:05I it's very unlikely. It has happened. You had, you can see a guy that has three or four first round picks.
56:12And they're all the best teams. Cause the best teams traded their first to try to get better to win.
56:19But if you got five or six, six first round picks, you gotta have a couple in there that are bad.
56:25Right? So like, you don't have to tank. And so he says this in the chat, it is his same guy.
56:32So we can go to his question. We can go to his team.
56:36Cause looking at his team, his question that he sent us was, you know, I got six first round picks.
56:42I think my team is too good. I will chat.
56:45I will tank, but I don't know what to do.
56:49Cause I'm, I think I think my team is too good.
56:52So Cameron's team, Casey and, and Shiv, my man is way too good to tank.
56:57You're on the verge. He's so good with all those first round picks mixed in.
57:02You're on the verge of risking the rest of the league folding up.
57:06Like man's got Drake, may Jaden Daniels, Mac Jones, the ghost of JJ McCarthy, uh, the ghost of Kirk cousins.
57:12So he's got two starting quarterbacks, Drake, man, Jay Daniels.
57:15They both go into first round of a startup and Mac Jones waiting in the wings, James cook, Travion Henderson studs, RJ
57:22Harvey, Braylon Allen, Laquan Allen, Isaiah Davis, Isaiah Davis getting a lot of, a lot of pub, uh, course, two stud running
57:29backs and RJ Harvey, who I like a lot.
57:32This is guaranteed floor RB two for years. JSN Malik neighbors, day flowers studs, Marvin Harrison.
57:37He sucks. We just talked about that. Ricky Pearsall, pour one out.
57:41Uh, probably a huge buy window coming up for Ricky Pearsall, Xavier worthy.
57:45So like three stud wide receivers, JSN Malik neighbors real quick.
57:48I'm going to, I'm going to refund you in here since you hit us over here.
57:54So, so you're not nice for the people, for the people.
57:57Uh, so massive amount of wide receivers and then Sam Laporta, Arundi Gadsden, AJ Barner, and Ben Sennett sitting there waiting to
58:04do something like you got starters across the board.
58:07Some of them absolute studs, stud quarterbacks, stud running backs, stud wide receivers and Sam Laporta.
58:12If Sam Laporta has no back injury, good grief shift.
58:15And then six first round picks. So my point was, I didn't realize it was the same guy for a minute, but
58:22like, I knew this question was coming. It's like, you can't tank with that team.
58:27It's impossible. So let your T okay. Give up on your first round pick being good, but you got five more.
58:33So those, you know, or I mean, being bad for your first round pick being early, you're just going to have to go.
58:41If you're good, then you push those other ones down, right?
58:44Go win the championship. He just, he said in the, in the chat, because I don't know if he saw, he said
58:51he's got the one on one two and 26.
58:54Jeez. So he's going to have Jeremiah. Now you just show it off.
58:58Yeah. So he has the first of the black sheep.
59:01Who's a rebuilder. He's got Gentitude and who is milk middling.
59:05Like I just, I'm not moving. I'm not moving at that black sheep first, but the one, what are you talking about for next year in 27?
59:13Okay. Yeah. 27. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. He's got that first for 27.
59:18Is there any reason to move off the 26 current one Oh one for him?
59:22Do you think? No, no. I mean, package it up.
59:26Go get B John. I don't, I still think you still got to add a significant amount to it to try to
59:33get B John, but it's worth it. I was going to say, I'm glad that you said that because I was trying
59:40to find the team that B John is on.
59:42If B John or Gibbs is not on a contender, like I saw Brock Bowers is on Mr.
59:48Haldo, whoever that is, is a rebuilder. And you were talking about Sam LaPorta.
59:53I I'm sending a first, a second and, and Sam LaPorta to try to get Brock Bowers.
59:58Love it. Just the B John team is, is okay.
60:01They're classified as a rebuilder, but they're, you know, they got, they got some okay players.
60:06It's solid. It's solid enough. I mean, they're, they're, they're quarterback room is rough.
60:11It's Bryce young and Justin Fields. Oh my. But when you're packaging up, when you're trying to go get like a Gibbs
60:18or a B John, you know, you're trying to keep, when you got that many first round picks, you're trying to keep
60:24the one that looks like the worst team. So you give yourself a chance.
60:29And if I got B John or Gibbs, I'm like, I'm not making this trade.
60:34If you don't give me Sally Joe's first round pick, who's the worst team in the league either.
60:39So like, you're going to have to fight that battle if the other team is smart enough to ask for it, but
60:46you're trying your best to keep, you know, your first, your best first rounder next year, if possible, if not the best,
60:53the best two, if you can, and then play with the ones, you know, in the middle, you know, don't come out
61:00and try to give them big coast first round pick.
61:03Everybody knows who's going to win a championship, right?
61:06Don't try to come send out the first, the one 12 next year, try to give them the middle picks.
61:13So they don't necessarily look like you clicked the best team in the league first.
61:17And then you start arguing about who's first round picks is the best and which one's the worst.
61:23I try to give the middle ones, uh, going after Brock Bowers is probably a really good idea.
61:29Not that Sam Laporta couldn't really stay close enough to him in fantasy points.
61:33If everything all worked out for Laporta, but if you were to go from Laporta to Bowers, you could move away from that.
61:40If his back injury is fine, which he's cleared, but you know, he, I just need Laporta to go see Matt Stafford's
61:47back doctor and everything will be all right. Yeah.
61:50Yeah. No, I mean, you, you can't, you can't tank you're, you're in good position.
61:55I think you're, you've got, you've got the future secured.
61:58You've got the one-on-one like, like these guys are saying, like you can move that to do to try to, you know,
62:05obviously the only thing you're doing is trying to get another elite that you're not trying to diversify the, from the one-on-one and move back and do it.
62:14You know, I'm just, I'm trying to get a great player.
62:17One of the cornerstones at a position or just draft Jeremiah Love.
62:21Right. And then from there you could do, you know, you don't have to keep Jeremiah Love.
62:27You could do. Yeah. You're not in a hurry.
62:29Right. Yes. It's Jeremiah Love or, or trade. So do you, do you guys want to, would you move off right now?
62:36You're just going to hang on to all the 27 first right now.
62:41You know, there's no reason to be trying to get crazy with those right this way.
62:46And when you're in the 26 draft, just be patient and hang on to all the 27th.
62:51Is that, is that, would that generally be what you're thinking?
62:54Unless I'm adding a cornerstone to this roster. Those are, those are locked like a chastity bill.
63:00Hmm. All right. Any other, any other things for Cameron here?
63:03Shout out Cameron. My great last name. I'm sure I said that last time.
63:08I don't see any other 20, 26 picks. So it looks like he's just got the one, one and that's it.
63:14I was looking around for seconds and thirds or whatever.
63:18It doesn't look like it, but whatever. So. That's all you need, dog.
63:22Well, for sure. But I didn't know what kind of action he'd find himself in, you know, and you could also, you
63:29could always, you know, I'm definitely trading a second round pick next year to get into the middle of the earlier second
63:36round pick or second round to get strip scribbling.
63:38If you missed that earlier. Um, obviously if your draft is anytime soon, you might have a chance to get in there
63:45before it gets hot, but in a couple of weeks you won't be able to strip.
63:50It's going to be a back strip. It's going to be in the first round.
63:55Says he was offered CMC for a 27 first.
63:58I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not doing that right now.
64:01Yeah. I mean, I, I'm not, I'm not doing that before.
64:04I'm not doing that before football starts. I would, you know, I would wait.
64:09If he'll do it now, he'll do it when, when training camp's over with.
64:13If he'll do it now, he'll probably do a week six, you know, I mean, he moved one Oh eight for flowers.
64:20I love that move. Like those would be, that would be, um, you know, if you could, if, if you really like
64:27somebody in the middle of the first or late first, and they're still hanging around, that would be a time where maybe
64:34I would cash in one of those futures because I'm like, Hey, I like this guy and a part of this game is getting guys you like.
64:43Right. Um, and you know, the VAT, maybe the value doesn't quite line up with 27 and 26 is or whatever, but
64:50if you could find your way into there and, and, um, find, you know, say if you like Casey conception or you
64:57like Boston or you like Antonio Williams or strip, go get those guys.
65:01Right. Um, so, um, all right, let's move on from, from Cameron here.
65:05Um, let's go to this fella here. Oh, I want to go back to Cameron.
65:10I'm going to hit you with the refund for the people for the people.
65:14All right. We're going to go to big pennics energy here.
65:17Uh, 10 team super flex, double flex. My team is a strong contender, but I feel I need to make another move
65:24or two to have a chance at beating the defending champ, mighty Marvin Bauer of Rangers, who is a juggernaut.
65:31What trades would you recommend? I'm thinking trading D Henry or packaging up wide receiver and 27 first for an elite wide receiver.
65:38So he said, uh, what super flex, double flex.
65:41So he just means there's two super flex with two more flexes, two more flexes and three and it's three wide receiver and it's a 10 teamer.
65:49So no, it doesn't look like any premium PPR.
65:52So, um, let's see, let's see what, so should we look at the, the, uh, we got big pennics energy and Marvin and the power Rangers here.
66:01Let's see what he's up against here before we go any further.
66:05It's aggressive. Shuck Prescott, Kyler Murray, Jacoby, Gino, Aaron Rogers, B.
66:08John Cook, Chase Brown, Javante Spears, JSN, Justin Jefferson, Marv, AJ Brown, Ricky, um, and then Brock Bowers and Tucker Kraft.
66:15And that's a juggernaut. Have they had their adequately?
66:18Is there any 26 is anywhere? Is there 26?
66:20No, it looks like, it looks like the 26 is have already been accounted for.
66:25I don't see them. Is there any 26 players?
66:28I don't see, I don't see either one. Yeah.
66:31I don't either, which is kind of messing me up.
66:34Let's look at some of that. Let's look at a, let's look at a not good team and see what.
66:40Okay. Well, let's look at big pennics energy and see if he's got Allen in my homes.
66:46So right. He's got an advantage in the QB room.
66:49There's Carnell Tate on a team. So the rookies are out there.
66:53Okay. Yeah. I saw, I see Skylar Bell on this.
66:56Yeah. So we're good. Marion Hampton, Brees, Swift. So not quite on the level that, that Marvin Bauer.
67:02The depth keeps going. Jalen Moore, David Montgomery, Jonathan Brooks.
67:05He's got the depth. Sure. Amin, Ross, St. Brown, Tet, Devonta Smith, Jalen Waddle, Downs, Moore, Trey Harris, and then McBride over there.
67:12So that's at least positive that you can put up with an elite tight end play.
67:17Right. Yeah. And you got likely in Gadsden. So there's some, there's good depth there.
67:22So Josh Allen, he's, he's, he can compete with juggernaut.
67:25So it's, it's, you're, you're, you're just, you're, you know, we like Waddle and Devonta Smith a lot.
67:31Like, I think, I think, you know, you got to start three wide receivers here.
67:35Um, so I mean, his starting three are better than your starting three.
67:40And then there's two more flexes. Um, so he's, he's got you out flexed, but I mean, with that, maybe not though.
67:47I mean, out flexed, uh, Devonta Smith and Jalen Waddle, uh, you know, I guess who's your flight, your flexes, Devonta Smith and Waddle or your other flexes.
67:55Basically. You got Josh Downs and DJ more. So, yeah.
67:59So basically he's asking, um, thinking of trading for Derek Henry or packaging a wide receiver and a 27 first for an elite wide receiver.
68:06So this be a position where you'd be fine with moving off a 27 first right now and, you know, packaging up
68:13like, uh, you know, would you, would you, what, what, what would you want to do to try to acquire another elite
68:20receiver or make this team better here guys? It's so difficult.
68:24The math so difficult on, on a 10 teamer because we all look at Ted Aron McMillan and we're like, Oh yeah, that's where we talked.
68:32It's a borderline cornerstone cornerstone. And I mean, I feel like Jalen Waddle and Devonta Smith are going to be great pieces to try to help you win.
68:41But if we don't get ceiling outcomes from either one and they're just like 13 points a game, then you, you're kind
68:48of, you're kind of lagging a little bit in the, in the receiver room.
68:52But this is from a value perspective. This is great.
68:56So I don't want to, I don't necessarily want to move off of Ted Aron.
69:00Well, like they, he could grow into being an actual cornerstone and we've not seen anything that says that he won't, but
69:07it still requires a little bit of projection. Same thing with, I mean, Devonta Smith's a little bit older money winner, you know, money winner value loser.
69:16Same thing with Jalen Waddle. So it just, you're kind of, you're in the hall of very, very good right now for a 10 team contender.
69:24It's just that he's just, your, your, your opponent here has a little bit more, a little bit more oomph.
69:30Like he's going to grab that championship and hump it into submission with Brock Bowers and Tucker Craft.
69:36So, I mean, it's just, he's, he's just a little bit better than your team is right now.
69:42Like those, the JSNs, the Justin Jefferson. I mean, more, you got him, you got him there with more versus Devonta Smith.
69:49I'd rather have Devonta Smith if I'm trying to, trying to cash out, but then he's got AJ Brown and I'd rather have AJ Brown over Jalen Waddle.
69:58And that's the biggest difference is he's got the hammer hammer and you've got like a small, like a little, like a little nail file.
70:05But it is a three wide receiver league and he's got Josh Downs and DJ Moore.
70:11So when, as you go through the season, he's got more options at putting a three wide receiver to, you know, line up together, which doesn't matter.
70:19They're both going to make the playoffs. And it's just, you know, if you get an opposite sides of the playoff bracket,
70:26you only got to beat them in the championship and anything can happen.
70:30And you got Josh Allen and St. Brown and Trey McBride, like that, you know, like this other team really is a
70:37juggernaut, but you're not that far away. You just don't have, you don't have some of those top end names because he's
70:44got them all in a 10 league, you know, 10 team, they're kind of spread out, you know, you know, yeah.
70:51If I, if I had to put on odds on it to, to big coast point, I'd, I'd say it's probably 60, 60, 40 him.
70:59Yeah. Going through all these teams, like there's no like bad team, you know, the ones that are getting the monikers of
71:06rebuilding and middling are still fine teams, right? They just have like a deficiency somewhere that the other teams maybe don't.
71:12Um, but like it just, to me, this, this question is, is comes down to answering of like, who's willing to trade.
71:19And when I scroll down to the last player, the last team here, like this guy's got a decent amount of holes
71:26outside of, you know, the QB room's good, but I mean, his running back rooms, man, his wide receiver room is mad,
71:33but CD lamb sticks out like a sore thumb here.
71:36Right. So, you know, in that case, would you, do you want to like try to move somebody like a 10 and
71:43a 27 first and see how close it gets you to getting a CD lamb?
71:48I mean, I wouldn't send that offer. Right. You probably get that.
71:52I don't want to smash. You get that. I would be surprised if you didn't, if you're, if that's the worst team
71:59in the league, he should be taking that deal.
72:02I can't say for sure. And I don't know how he feels about his team.
72:06I don't know if he's aware, you know, some people aren't aware.
72:10Right. Right. Yes. Not everybody knows they're rebuilding. Not everybody.
72:13I'm not saying this guy's got even got a bad team even necessarily, but it is a 10 team and everybody's, you
72:20know, everybody, obviously everybody's got a little bit better players.
72:23So you're trying to get higher end players. I would look, I would start knocking on people's, I would maybe say I
72:30would package up like I would use an Aranda.
72:33You got Trey McBride and likely I would use the hype of Aranda Ganston and the new offensive coordinator coming over there.
72:40Um, I would use the depth of like, I would try to cash out on David Montgomery while you got a chance.
72:47Um, you know, you got Hampton, Breesall, Swift and the Mononga, the Mononga Swift combo is really, really nice.
72:53And I think Jalen Warren's going to be very RB2E this year.
72:57Um, I think we all saw Aaron Rodgers happy to throw it to the running back last year and that guy's gone to Tampa.
73:05Um, so I think Jalen Warren's probably going to catch a fair, a decent amount of balls to keep him very fantasy
73:12relevant while Rico Dowdle gets most of the touchdowns.
73:14Um, but you could, you could package up Jonathan Brooks right now before he gets hurt.
73:19If not, you know, maybe nothing happens. Right. You're saying Brooks, I'm looking up, but keeping up with the Joneses.
73:26Cause I was trying to find the team that had Derek Henry since maybe, I don't know, since he mentioned him, maybe
73:33they've already been chatting, but it's a middling team.
73:36He doesn't have a 27 first. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that you're giving them the 27 first.
73:42I'm just saying he's already missing that. So maybe he would like a 27 second, um, or whatever, but like he does, you mentioned Brooks.
73:50He has Chuba. Not that that maybe would do anything for him, but Derek, somebody you were interested in, and then he's
73:57got these two old receivers right here. So is this a case where you try to get an elite guy like CD lamb?
74:04Obviously that's kind of always going to be something, but like, is Mike Evans or Terry McLaurin, somebody that you try to
74:11go help you get over the hump with, with juggernaut.
74:14Cause if, if Terry McLaurin reverts at the commanders can revert and Jane Daniels could revert back to a year and a
74:21half ago, like Terry McLaurin is going to win you some money.
74:25Yeah. I, I would be, you hit this. Obviously it's really hard for me to clamp down on 10 team league.
74:32Cause I, you know, it, it changes the math on the rosters and the depth and starting lineup.
74:37It's, it is tough transition, but it looks like this dude's got extraordinary depth between the running backs and with being a three wide receiver league.
74:45I don't know if I want to, I want to keep the wide receiver depth that you have maybe using one of them in a trade to upgrade.
74:54Maybe you upgrade from Waddle or you upgrade from Josh downs.
74:58You upgrade from DJ more, blah, blah, blah. But like between Jonathan, drove Jonathan Brooks and David Montgomery and a Rondé gas.
75:05And like, you find somebody that feels like they need running backs.
75:09You found somebody that feels like they need a tight end.
75:12Like, I feel like you could make something happen with those guys and you didn't even touch your, uh, you know, touch your starting lineup.
75:20Yeah, no, that's kind of, you know, that's kind of what I, if you, if you threw Brooks and something else together
75:27for that guy down there who has the old, the bunch of old guys on a team that probably he needs to
75:34cash in on those old guys now, um, because he's not winning anything.
75:38Um, and, and they could really help his team out here to, to help them get over the hump for, for the
75:45depth of the third wide receiver, you know, and, or, I mean, I don't necessarily know that you need Derek Henry on
75:52this team, but it's certainly not going to hurt.
75:55Right. No, it ain't going to hurt. If Derek Henry said a swift, that's cool.
76:00You know, you could package up swift and Monunga and, and trade them down to that guy and try to get Derek
76:07Henry and the olds, you know what I mean?
76:09Yeah. You know, whatever it is. Keep an old trick and keep an old trick in mind.
76:15Like, you know, it is a 10 team or like if you're, if you end up using your first round pick, try
76:22to give it to a bad team if you could, and then try to get their second round pick in the train,
76:29you know, and nobody's saying you're going to have the, nobody's saying you're going to win the championship, but let's say you
76:36get to the playoffs and you get third place game, or hopefully you get in the championship.
76:41You trade away the one, nine, one, you know, the one, eight, the one, nine, and you get back the two, two
76:48or the two, three, potentially, if you get a bad team's second round pick and you, if that's, if you're giving away
76:55Gadsden or Jonathan Brooks and somebody, Dave Montgomery, if you probably not getting all those guys in the same trade, but when
77:02you're putting parts and pieces together to upgrade and you're using your first to do it, try to get that second round
77:09pick back from the bad team and, you know, give up a third or something to try to make those numbers work out for the guy.
77:17And then all of a sudden, maybe this time next year, you only traded back.
77:22You only moved four, four picks in the rookie draft.
77:25Yeah. You've got a good mix of things to try to help you navigate to get, you know, I think probably your
77:32best course of action is trying to get some of the older studs that are good to try to help you get
77:39over the hump for Bauer Rangers or trying to get your first involved in, and a bunch of depth and go get
77:46like a CD lamb or whoever other's team has like an elite player that might want to get rid of them.
77:53That's, that's, that's the, that's the dance you got to figure out.
77:56Right. You know, I'd be way I'd be, I'd want to pay much more and be in the CD lamb sweet stakes
78:03that for me and a 10 team league, and you already this good, and you already got that many good players like
78:10the, the old, the, um, you know, the Terry McLaurin trade in this for this guy and this team that doesn't, it's not making me super thrilled.
78:19Oh, I'm just, I think, I think Terry McLaurin could easily get you over the hump to beat this guy.
78:25If Terry McLaurin is back to where Terry McLaurin has been, I think Terry McLaurin can get you over the hump and
78:32then it doesn't cost you a whole lot. And you, once you've won now, all right, well now we can relax and you still have the same team.
78:41Really? You didn't really train anything that that's, I think that's a major leak to say Taylor, Terry McLaurin is the guy
78:48that gets him over the hump here. I disagree.
78:51Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. If he's healthy, I mean, if he's healthy and Jaden Daniels is healthy, you're saying you don't think
78:58that Terry's going to, Terry's going to do be a difference maker.
79:01I didn't say he's not helping. I don't think it's the one that gets you over the hump against the guy that has B.
79:09John and JSN and Justin Jefferson and Brock Bowers.
79:12And I mean, it doesn't have Josh Allen. You got it.
79:15You're winning. You're winning in the quarterbacks. Right. Yeah.
79:18But he's got in the quarterbacks, you're crushing the quarterbacks.
79:21And then you just, you kind of lagging a little bit, a little bit behind and everything else.
79:27I'm not saying just Terry's going to, but like, that's the, to me, that's a team where I could go figure out, can I get Mike Evans?
79:36Can I get Terry? Can I get Derek Henry?
79:39And I don't have to spend a whole lot of stuff.
79:42And dude, I, I think you're, I think you're sleeping on what Terry could potentially be this year.
79:48Like Terry, Terry, if Terry plays all the games and he's 15 points a game and then you're just hammering 15 points
79:55a game and you're flex at that point, you got to feel good about that.
79:59Oh, I would feel good. I don't know. I don't think Terry averaged 15 points a game this year.
80:05He, Terry McLaurin just a year ago was wide receiver seven.
80:09Like we're not, we're one year away from Terry McLaurin being 267 PPR points.
80:13You know, that's what, that's what I'm saying. Like that, him being out there every single week and giving you just, it's
80:20not going to be 18 points a game with 15.
80:23Yeah. Who's the target competition? Right. That's kind of what I'm saying.
80:27It's the, I think he's could be a cheap top 10 wide receiver was the way that I was looking at that.
80:34Him and Mike Evans, him, Mike Evans, Devante Adams, all the, all the plus 30 guys that can still, that can still
80:41go out there and give you, give you meaningful fantasy points are the guys that you need to be, that you need
80:48to be targeting because it's not going to cost you.
80:51Yeah. McLaurin might cost you a first, but Evans isn't going to cost you a first Devante Adams isn't going to cost you a first.
80:59Yeah. I mean, and Derek Henry, you know, you get to figure out a way, but like, I'm with you.
81:06Like I started out with saying, Hey, let's go get CD lamb off of this guy's team.
81:11If that's my first stop, can I go figure out how to get an elite?
81:16But I don't know how many of those guys are going to want to, you know, is this guy want to give up Nico Collins?
81:24I don't know if he does. Um, so it just seemed like that was a situation where a, that that's a doable
81:31thing that could happen for, for me in that situation.
81:34So anyhow, um, you move on to the next one.
81:37Yep. Yeah. Um, I can't really, really a broad question.
81:40Um, we can get some more pointed questions here, boys.
81:43Do I on the fantasy football? Um, and, and hit it, get, go get the roster review.
81:49And then, you know, we could do the roster review.
81:52Um, all right. What would you do with this team?
81:55It could go either way. Probably wait till week five ish to sell or buy players and picks.
82:01Um, did he say which team was his? Oh, Mary and Ben Hampton.
82:05Oh, Mary and Ben Hampton. Oh, man. You know, he's got two, two 27 first.
82:09Okay. He's got Drake may. He's got two. He's got a Maron Hampton, Travion, ETN Coleman, Harvey Gainwell, the Quinn Allen.
82:16It's three wide receiver league. Okay. He's got CD.
82:19He's got TET. He's got DK. He's got Coker.
82:22Okay. Um, he's got a Rondae Gatson and Jake Ferguson.
82:25Like you said, no, no 20, no 26. Have they done the 26 yet?
82:29Yeah. I see Tanner Cozy all right there. Okay.
82:32Um, all right. Well, I mean, why? So where, where, where generally, I mean, as I'm perusing the rest of the league
82:39thoughts on, on this guy's team here. I like what's happening, but we're, we're, we're, we're a ways off from, from winning money.
82:46Just not far, but just a little ways off.
82:49I'll go ahead. We go. Uh, like you said, just, you know, clicking around and checking to some other, when three wide
82:56receiver league and DK Metcalf's your third and you've been Jacob Jalen Coker's your fourth, and then you're kind of looking around for another starter.
83:04So that's, that's your, that's your biggest weakness in my eyes.
83:08Right. Wait a second. You can be, uh, no premium.
83:11You're going to be trying, you're probably going to, you know, pull your hair out every week deciding between Gadsden and Ferguson in your lineup.
83:19So maybe you want to trade them both away and get a tight end that you want to have in your lineup every week.
83:26Um, Ferguson has caught a ton of balls in the last couple of years and Gadsden has looked ridiculously good in spurts.
83:33Um, there is a lot being said about the game splits when Pickens and CD lamb were both healthy at the same time.
83:41Jake Ferguson was crushing early in the season when CD lamb got hurt and Pickens had not been in the lineup playing
83:48with Dak very long, but it kind of tailed off towards the end.
83:52Uh, just be Jake Ferguson is a safe tight end.
83:55But when you're trying to look for the upper, upper end stuff that Ronnie Gadsden could give it to you.
84:01There's just so many options potentially for the chargers.
84:04Um, that's, that's the first thing that I think about is trying to get another startable wide receiver that I feel good
84:11about and then trying to work on my tight end.
84:14You got Drake may and, uh, that is, yes, you know, for this year, Gino for this year.
84:20Fair enough. Maybe two for a while for a little bit running backs look really solid compared to what it could be.
84:27I mean, Hampton and Travion, Travis, Travis, Travis ET.
84:30Apparently it's a Chan now. That's what we just, somebody put it in the comments.
84:34They thought I was joking, but that I was pretending I didn't know his last name was a Chan.
84:40Uh, like I thought that was a joke. I, a Chan is, we already got an a Chan and it doesn't look anything like this spelling.
84:49So I know I'm South Carolina public educated. I'm stretching to just, I will tell, I will call you anything you want, Travis.
84:56But I, it's tough to get a Chan out of that.
84:59Uh, you know, you, you get your chef ski out of some shit.
85:04That's got a K and S's and all kinds of shit.
85:07So let's just roll. I got his coach K.
85:10I can't even say. I got, I got Duke 91, 92 back-to-back champ.
85:14Oh, we lost, we lost big go. Uh, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got two plus.
85:20What's going on? No, there's no A or C or H or all that's happening.
85:25So, um, Mario, I'm Ben Hampton here. I'm sorry.
85:28Uh, I like the squad. I think middling is appropriately, you know, of course, every moniker that is made on the website
85:35is not going to reflect everybody's team and they're going to feel a certain type of way about it.
85:41And in this case, I do feel like that's probably right on time, uh, with kind of where you're at here.
85:47I think, I think you've got good parts and pieces.
85:51Um, but generally, you know, there are, there are some better teams for the most part.
85:56Um, to me, absolutely wild that Jonah Coleman has surpassed RJ Harvey in dynasty value, according to our, our site here.
86:02Right. Right. Oh, it goes back. Nope. Not quite.
86:05Camera's not on. Maybe his camera died. I don't know what happened.
86:09Um, but you're, you're deficient in the QB room.
86:12You're like, you can, if you had a great roster, you could play scrub second QB, but you don't have the great
86:19roster, which you can be fine this year with the guys that you have.
86:23So, you know, that's already a problem. Big co is already stating about the, the QB or the tight ends a little bit.
86:31And now it's not premium. So it's not the end of the world.
86:35Um, but you know, like the guy who has Tucker craft down here, he's got, you know, he's got some killers at
86:42the quarterback position and then he's got Stafford back.
86:44He's got JT and Jacobs and Henry, like he's ready to go.
86:48He's got Jefferson. If he bounces back now, receiver room, a little light, but craft there.
86:53So, you know, solid team. Um, Mark Andrews, what'd you think?
86:57Chef Brock Bowers guys got a pretty solid team, you know, a little light.
87:01Uh, we gotta let, we gotta, we gotta be a little patient.
87:05We could get a little bump. We could get a little bump here with Kasha, Kasha on booty.
87:11He might most likely getting traded. Yeah. He's not going to be, I'd be shocked if he's on the Patriots opening day roster.
87:18Yeah. I mean, he's too good to not have a role somewhere.
87:22Like, you know, he, he's, he's just been solid.
87:25And they, you know, they brought in dubs and, and, you know, Kyle Williams, I think can assume a sort of more
87:32bootay role with like, you know, with kind of how they've been using, but I think bootays could blossom into an awesome receiver.
87:39Well, I mean, you think about it going into the 2023 season, he was the, he was the number one receiver going into that season.
87:47A lot of people had him as the number one, the number one.
87:51As far as the rookies. Yeah. As far as the rookies.
87:54Like the incoming 2023 class. It was, it was, he was in that same conversation with who was all in that class.
88:01JSN and all that was, that was a real thing.
88:05So we're talking about a guy who's shown that he has real talent and then he's worked his way up from being
88:11a day three pick to meaningful snaps and performing whenever the situation also having a very negative stigma around him, which is
88:18kind of where I landed him there. And he's just, that's kind of all went away.
88:23So that's all really good signal right there. You know?
88:27So I, I like that. Um, but you know, to me, this is probably, Hey, I'm going to probably trade Travis ETN.
88:34If Tua can do anything or if Gino can get me anything, I'm going to trade those guys.
88:39I'm going to, I'm going to just, I'm a role that you got two picks in 27 already.
88:45I'm going to roll this thing down the line here and just try to take a couple of points out of my lineup.
88:52Maybe I sell DK. I don't think I want to sell CD right now.
88:57Um, and just to me, I'm not, I'm not going anywhere in the, in the buying category.
89:02Unless it's like a young rising star. If we're doing the buckets thing or something along those lines, right?
89:08Yes. Yeah. I get, I get, I unload, I, I try to unload two after his first meaningful game or whenever he
89:15gets, he gets unloaded as a starter. I hold on to Gino.
89:19I hold on to Gino until he has a good game.
89:22And then I go take a second or a third or whatever.
89:26If I'm committing, let's commit to the direction and not accidentally put points in our lineup that cost us a spot or whatever the case may be.
89:35But yeah, those guys, Tua doesn't fit. Gino doesn't fit.
89:38Jameis is probably not going to, I mean, he's probably not going to play unless something happens to Jackson Dart.
89:44Yeah. I mean, you got, you got to gain well down here.
89:48Yeah. Gain well. Here's the thing. Gain well to a Gino, Travis.
89:52Even Big Joe mentioned Ferguson. Like he's not old by any means, but if he gets rolling and somebody needs a tight
89:59end, you could, you could facilitate that. Yeah. You can, you can, again, that's another guy I would, I would be more,
90:06I'd be more apt to move Jake Ferguson than I would guess.
90:09And just because of the age difference. And just, you know, I think, I don't think Ferguson's going to, Ferguson's going to
90:16be fine in your lineup, but I don't think the value and what he can be can, can blossom any further.
90:23Um, so yeah, I, you know, I think this is a great, like Crispy just said, this team's got an amazing core.
90:30It does have a very good core. We're just, we're low at wide receiver or QB two.
90:35Well, it's like I said, if, if you had a great team all around to overcome this, then I'd be like, all right, well F it.
90:44We can, we can roll with the scrub as your two.
90:47I've, I've won many championships with the scrub too, that just plays and doesn't blow it.
90:52But, uh, big co's back joining us. Give us your thoughts here before we move on to our next question.
90:59And actually I got to get a prize picks reading after this.
91:02So now I could hear you guys. I just don't know what happened to my camera there.
91:08I think the coach K and the H and chat had me laughing and I hit something.
91:13I don't know what happened, but it, uh, it disappeared over here.
91:17Um, but yeah, I, I, Jake Ferguson catches, you know, dump downs from his boy.
91:22Dak loves Jake Ferguson. I've heard a couple of people on podcasts be like, I don't know why Jake Ferguson keeps catching the balls.
91:29That's what happens when the quarterback likes you. The boys are boys and Ferguson gets his catches.
91:35Um, you know, but you're not gonna, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago with the package of the Cowboys in the red zone.
91:43Like Ferguson is Dak's boy, but like CD lamb and pickings just, I mean, dominating in the red zone for against the defense.
91:50Right. So I don't think you can count on Jake Ferguson to get a whole lot of touchdowns.
91:56If one of those wide receivers don't get nicked up.
91:59Um, but yeah, I, I, I do, I do agree wholly with, I don't think you're getting, it'd be interesting to see two is hot.
92:07If two has a hot start and you could trade him, get something for him.
92:12I don't have a problem with that. Um, I, I don't see that really happening, but it could.
92:17Um, yeah, you could definitely get a second round pick for Gino Smith when he starts and he looks like he, if
92:24he looked like he looked two years ago, you know, there's no reason you can't get a second round pick for Gino
92:31and just take it out a little bit around the, you know, core of that team and try to get a better
92:38lot of pick to get a letter, better set of draft picks.
92:42Like Jeff said. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm right there with all of that.
92:46There's just a cut. Like you look around and there's like a couple of teams that are like, eh, you're probably better than they are.
92:54And if you made a move or two, you can be better than them.
92:58But then you get down to the couple of the contenders.
93:02And I just, I don't think you're overcoming those guys right now.
93:06And I think you should be wise to just hang out for a second, be patient and just try to gather a
93:13little bit more things to make a couple more calculated moves to get some, some younger, good talent.
93:18We kind of, we made fun of him about his question, but like he said, I'll probably wait until week five ish
93:25to sell or buy players or picks. And like, that's literally made mostly half the battle of what we tell people anyway.
93:32Right. So like you're halfway there just being like, I'm going to let it simmer for just a minute and figure out what's going on.
93:40You give everybody else a chance in the league to figure out if they think they're winning or losing.
93:46Now you figure out who's bought, who should be buyer and seller.
93:50They don't necessarily always line up like that, but it gives you a chance to map.
93:55Now the person that you sold to a two might give you a little bit more.
94:00Now the person that you're selling Gino to might actually want to give you something, you know, et cetera.
94:06Right. I like it. All right. Doug, Dougie says, just wait for the first good starting back.
94:12Good starting quarterback to get hurt and then pounce with both two and Gino as replacements.
94:17All right, let's give them. We got two more questions on here and then we'll, maybe we'll talk a little bit more
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98:36Yeah. Later guys. Shout out to James. Let's, let's get in here.
98:40Let's get a couple more. We'll ask two questions in for people's pleasure here.
98:45Uh, hello, my league. Hello. Uh, my league is in its second season.
98:49I was out on the first, uh, yeah, I was out in the first round of the playoffs.
98:54So basically I sat T law still did not like my team trades went crazy in the off season.
99:00I completely transferred my team. I was wondering if I should make any moves or just go into the season as is
99:07thinking of adding a running back, but I don't want to lose too much.
99:12This is a 12 man, one quarterback tight end premium.
99:15My previous team was quarterback. Appreciate you guys. Um, let's check out the power rankings.
99:20I'm assuming since you listed all those guys again, you've made some moves.
99:24So let's, let's check it out just a little bit, just a little, just what was he's weapon X.
99:30Yeah. All right. Let's expand it. Let's double check here.
99:33We're one quarterback PPR, but he said it's tight end premium is start three wide receivers, uh, two flex.
99:39So he's got Lamar, as he mentioned, start one quarterback while I'm fine with punting quarterback in that situation.
99:45For the most part, Lamar is a good one to have, uh, gente and Omari on hand.
99:50And then he's got tootin menungi Brooks, uh, and then Jefferson, Nico Rome, AJ Brown and Christian Watson.
99:56Hachi machi, uh, Jalen Coker and Darnell Mooney. Shout out to them, to Darnell Mooney.
100:01And then fanning. He does not have craft anymore.
100:04It does not appear. Um, so you like towers and Mark Andrews.
100:08So I made a lot of moves. Why do you hate the steep?
100:12Cause you try to tell your craft. What do you, what do you even know?
100:16What do you even know? What are you even doing over there?
100:20All right. So what was the overarching question here?
100:23Second season was a layoffs. Um, wonder if we should make any moves to just go into the season.
100:29Um, she've, you know, he's, he's, you know, position group where, you know, we're, he's one in tight end.
100:35He's one in RBs, three in quarterback, eight in wide receiver.
100:39Right. Um, so that those are just arbitrary numbers that the site puts together here.
100:43I'll based off of, you know, a lot of things, but then it doesn't necessarily mean.
100:48They have, they have meaning. We're not going to explain exactly what it all means right now.
100:54Right. I mean, it has meaning, but you can't, don't get super caught up in it.
100:59It's, it's just a guide, you know, all of these things on these websites, nothing should be taken as the gospel.
101:05It should be taken as a guide and, uh, to just kind of put in perspective of, of what is, is kind of being, uh, processed.
101:14So, um, yeah, I mean, I'm like, I gotta scroll through some teams here, but generally, is there, is there anything that
101:21you think that like, there's no real deficiency here that you have to go in and fill it in a hole.
101:27And that, that's a good place to be because at that point for me, what I'm then doing is saying, all right, well, Hey, yeah.
101:35Could I use maybe a little bit more depth that I could, that I would really want to count on going into
101:42the season as my running, if in my running back room.
101:46Yes. Wide receiver room. I'm, I'm fine with, um, you could, you could probably use one more depth piece, mostly just cause
101:53you're starting three wide receivers and the other two in your flex.
101:56So, but you do have tootin menungi and Brooks to kind of lean on if you, if you maybe needed it.
102:03And, you know, unfortunately you don't have craft anymore, but, uh, he could have been one of your flexes.
102:09Oh, so she have, what are your, what's your, what's your thoughts here?
102:13Let's go get some, let's go get some money, man.
102:16Like I, I really liked this wide receiver core.
102:19I, you've got, you've got enough. Well, we're a little thin and tight.
102:23I just don't, what did he get for Tucker?
102:26Anyway, I'm not going to do that right now.
102:29I'm going to stay focused. I'm just, I'm flabbergasted because.
102:32I don't really think legitimately, I don't think that there's an, there's a lot that you need to do.
102:38You're, your, your wide receiver room is really strong.
102:41We're just waiting quite literally just waiting on, waiting on Roma Dunze to return back to form and Justin Jefferson.
102:47And I feel like you, you have the strongest team.
102:51I mean, obviously fuck Dallas here is, is listed as a contender, but you got him at quarterback.
102:56He's got the, he's got the depth at running back on you.
103:00You crush him at receiver and he's got Trey McBride and you've got Harold fans.
103:05So if we're looking at that as your, your primary competition, there's other couple of teams here.
103:10I don't feel what was his, what was his need?
103:13What does he need us to answer? Well, he was basically just asking, is there any moves he should make and where,
103:20what he, you know, what, what exactly should he do?
103:23And so that's kind of where I was a depth, maybe depth at running back.
103:28We need a little, maybe you could have a tight end.
103:32Yeah. Yeah. You, you needed, you never want to be this thin at tight end, in my opinion, in a tight end premium league.
103:39Yeah. I would, I would just agree. Eli Stowers is, is a nice, it's a nice bet.
103:45And we, we like Eli Stowers. I think Eli Stowers is going to be great, but where you are right now, it
103:52doesn't make the most sense to, to be making bets like that.
103:55And you're trying to make money and you're in a place to where this team should, should win you some money or
104:02at least get you to the third place game.
104:05So I'd, I'd really, I'd strongly consider adding running back depth, strongly consider adding running back depth and try to get a cheap tight end.
104:13Try to go get dulce for off of somebody.
104:16Right now I'm trying to, I'm searching the database for Tucker craft and Gunner Helm train, since it does look like maybe
104:23in the trade, he said, he, he did send Gunner Helm and Tucker craft.
104:27Um, what? I'm trying to find out. It can't be that many trades involving both of those guys.
104:33I know. I don't know. News flash. It was me.
104:36He traded them to. Um, yeah. I mean, so do you go get an older running back here to, if you're, if
104:43you're kind of like, is there, um, or, or, you know, like you said, another tight end would be, would be quite, quite fun here.
104:51So this, this guy's team's pretty stinky and he's got Kyle pits and obviously you just traded away a tight end.
104:58So maybe that's not where your head's at. Um, and he's, his only, his only good player is Bijan.
105:04And he's got my homes and hurts. Um, and not a lot of capital.
105:08It is single quarterback. Right. Um, I don't know what you could possibly trade Delco's finest for Bijan here.
105:14Um, but I'd be interested. Um, let's get weird.
105:17You know, anyhow. Um, I think it's, I think to me, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's another person you could
105:24count on in the running back room. That's, that would be my target.
105:28And who would that exactly be for somebody like this chef?
105:32Like, is it, is it a Javante Williams? Is it, is it somebody like that?
105:36Who's kind of like, you know, if we're doing buckets kind of thing, like money maker value loser, or is it an, uh, yeah.
105:44Is it an OG or are you trying to find like an ascending star and, and, and overpay a little bit?
105:51Cause you do have to, you got gente and Hampton and you have a 27 first, uh, you have two 28 first or two.
105:58You got speculation on tootin that could, that could burn, that could blow up.
106:03And then my nun guy is going to be a top 30 guy in, in totality, but I don't know how much
106:10he's going to help you on a weekend week out basis.
106:13I'm torn. I think, you know, let's look at, let's look at how much, how much more does it take to go from tootin to scatabo?
106:21Right. We got a rebuilder here, but he does that.
106:24Like he's got a good, the Drizzy Drake's got Allen, Jeremiah love Teddero McMillan and Brock Bauer.
106:30So all across his watchtower there, he's going, he's got some pretty solid pieces.
106:34He just needs to build it out a little bit.
106:37Um, but you know, that, that could take a year or two for him to figure that out.
106:43And he's only, it's not like he's super rich in picks.
106:47He's got two 27s. Like, so scatabo would be somebody who would be interested.
106:51Like I'm with you. Like I, I don't, I like tootin and tootin could be, but like, I would probably try to
106:58use the tootin express here to try to go find my running back that I think is.
107:03And I know we just said like, potentially like an up and comer, which tootin could certainly be that.
107:09And this could, you know, be like, she likes to say on fantasy receipts.
107:14Um, but. I mean, I, I genuinely, but, but I mean, I genuinely feel that way though.
107:19Like, I mean, I, I think, I don't know.
107:22Like Josh Jacobs too scary for you right now.
107:25No, that's, that's who I was. I was trying to get there because it could, he have some sort of competition.
107:32If Marshawn Lloyd, if Marshawn Lloyd's body, is it made out of silly putty?
107:36Could we have a little bit of regression from Josh Jacobs, just having a complete stranglehold and like 90% of the inside
107:43the five carries and dominating the backfield share overall?
107:46Yes. That could happen at the same time. He's been dominant and scored 28 touchdowns in the last two years or something crazy like that.
107:54So, uh, Josh Jacobs is one of the contender buys that that's, that's a guy that shouldn't have, that should have a stranglehold.
108:01Like you should have a firm grip on him if you're a contender or be charging a King's ransom.
108:07And because of the legal situation, because he didn't finish the season strong, people have written him off as, oh, he's washed or, oh, he's not that good.
108:16Or I don't want any parts of him. And I think that's one of the, one of the biggest advantages that you can create.
108:23I saw Crispy, you're, you're highlighting Chigga Concord there.
108:26I like that a lot. Also, I'm, I'm naturally, I'm obliged to, I have to mention, I absolutely have to mention the
108:33fact that, you know, Gunner Helm, like, well, I mean, you sent Gunner Helm away and Greg and Greg Golsage.
108:40Got to mention. So going back and, and shout out, I think, uh, Steve-O here, he's got Steve-O 484, which, and then
108:47there's a, but there's a Delco guy. There's a, a John's guy.
108:50So I'm going to assume this guy is a, is a, uh, you know, somewhere in the, in the Southeast of Pennsylvania.
108:57Yeah. The Rust Belt. Well, that's not the Rust Belt.
109:00Not the Rust Belt. My bad. No, but shout out to, if this is anybody near the Lehigh Valley, we've, we've talked
109:07about it before, but that's, that's, that's the hometown.
109:10I spent my first 18 years in Eastern Pennsylvania.
109:13So shout out to, to the boys in, in the Delco area there, but I'm in Charleston, South Carolina now.
109:19Um, but going back to this real quick, um, Cooper to John's, like we mentioned Josh Jacobs.
109:25Like he matches up well with a lot of things you have.
109:29He's got Mike Washington. You have gente. He's got Josh Jacobs.
109:32That could be a fun target. Dallas Goddard. This is this guy.
109:36Did this guy have stowers or was that the last guy?
109:39Yeah, he has. He has stowers and Harold Fannin.
109:42If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And Mark Andrews and Mark Andrews.
109:46We did overlook Andrews there. No, I said, I said, it's okay.
109:49Okay. I did. I did. I need to, I said, we needed a little, I would like to have a little bit
109:56more depth because if Andrews is cooked and you're just depending on Harold Fannin, it's okay.
110:02But you don't want to be running butt naked out there in tight end premium with just one tight end.
110:08That's not the way that we like to reconstruct rosters.
110:11I feel like I feel can comfortably speak for you and Big Co and everybody associated with us here at the FFD.
110:18Correct. Yeah. When we say that. But I feel like this is a nice match because you have Washington in there.
110:25You have Jacobs. I mean, Dallas Goddard was stowers for like a year.
110:29Like there's a lot of target share vacated. And I think, you know, obviously some of it's going to move right over
110:36to, to, uh, I want to say to Sean Jackson, but that'd be the Jeremy Macklin era.
110:41Um, what am I, why am I drawing a blank on, on the slim Reaper?
110:46Uh, Devonta Smith, Devonta Smith. Obviously some of that's going to move over there.
110:50They drafted lemon. We're expecting things out of him and get some wicks love out there in camp.
110:56Uh, but, but yeah, I think this guy matches up with you.
111:00Well, and like, do you want to give up somebody like tooting for like a bunch of guys like that?
111:06I don't know, but I don't, I actually don't mind it.
111:10If like, what else can I get with tooting for like, I think a lot of people right now would probably gladly
111:17trade tooting for Josh Jacobs, you know, straight up.
111:19Yeah. Easy. Easy. If I could do that, I'm doing it all day and twice on Sunday because, you know, and, and
111:26maybe, and this guy's just a prime candidate to get somebody like tooting.
111:30Cause he's, he's young and ascending. He's got Jamar chase and Garrett Wilson, but like everything else is young.
111:36Josh Jacobs doesn't fit the build. And some of these older tight ends, like, you know, TJ Hockinson and Goddard could be really loose gripped.
111:44Um, and you've got Mike Washington and that's, that's your, your guys backup, which general he's got gente.
111:50Oh, Oh, another cheap, another cheap, uh, cheap tight end that we haven't really, we've discussed a little bit in passing in the show.
111:58So path fire me with Aaron Rogers. Interesting. I've, I've rode that train a little bit, but I agree.
112:04I agree. I don't mind it. It's just, and, and, and I want to paint a picture of Aaron Rogers with Robert Tanyan in the 11 touchdown season.
112:13That's where we're, that's where I think that that could go.
112:16I don't think it's going to be a ton of volume.
112:19He might catch 60 balls. He might catch 50.
112:22He's going to throw double digit touchdowns. Cause Aaron Rogers, that's just one thing that he does.
112:28He'll hone in on one guy and just throw a piss missile to him in the red zone all the time.
112:34Hmm. Yeah. I like, I like the moot drop there.
112:38All right, let's move on here. Uh, we're going to move on to our last one here.
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113:42All right. Hey, is this, this, we can cut a promo with this guy.
113:47Um, I'm aiming to go back to back to back this year, back, back, back, back, back, back, back.
113:53Uh, I'm thinking I could afford to move shuck for a wide receiver.
113:57I've tried for flowers, AJ Brown and Buka and Puka without any luck.
114:01Given I have shuck and Darnold as my QB threes.
114:04Do you think it's the right move to try to capitalize on the current hype around him?
114:10Who would be trade targets or who would be trade targets you would recommend?
114:14And I, how do I improve my wide receiver room without giving up 27 capital?
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114:54Master chief. He's got Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow. He mentioned shuck and Darnold.
114:58Then he's got Mill Road behind Darnold. So you got a nice double package there.
115:03Um, package, uh, Gibbs, B. John Tootin. Um, Sharbs, Rico, Algier, Pickens, T.
115:07McLaurin, Pittman, Coker, Godwin, uh, Kinkade, Kittle, Strange, Helm, uh, 227 first.
115:11Arroyo. Love that. Um, so do you think he should give up shuck potentially to capitalize on there?
115:16And then, you know, how does he improve his wide receiver room without giving up some 27 value?
115:22So it's three wide receivers, start three wide receivers and three flexes.
115:26So. Uh, then it's full PPR type premium. Correct.
115:29So he wants to boost up this, this wide receiver room.
115:32How does he get that done? And Gibbs and B.
115:35John are just, just absolutely holding it down for you right now.
115:39Yeah. Those, those are. That's Lee. That's, that's, uh, he's basically looking to use, he's got some depth at quarterback.
115:45That's a, he could expend one of them. Um, what could he potentially like, that's going to be your best route.
115:52Cause you don't necessarily need a quarterback back. And he, what were the, what were the guys at Buka flowers, Puka, AJ Brown without any luck.
116:00And so I don't know what those deals were, but he had, he's already gone for those.
116:06I'm assuming straight up for shot or right. Right.
116:09Which is crazy. That's a, that'd be real tough for me to turn down.
116:13If I, depending on my situation, if I was, if I was sitting there with AJ Brown and somebody brought me, brought
116:20me Tyler Shuck, I'd have to be very, very strong at quarterback to just, just reject that.
116:25Right. Um, all right. I'm going to pull up the, uh, crowdsource rankings.
116:29Yeah. I'm looking through, I'm looking through things right now.
116:33So he wants to, so I'm assuming he wants to add a money winner, value loser, or a cornerstone or receiver.
116:39Let's go look at Shuck here. All right. We've coming in at 64.
116:43We can shoot over to, well, we'll keep it here.
116:47Um, he's coming in at 64. So some play, did he, he meant, did he mention Rome in his, as, as one
116:54he's trying to want somebody he tried to get.
116:56So, you know, Roma duns a for me, I love Roma duns a, I think, I think he could be, and he's right.
117:04He's kind of right there on par. Um, AJ Brown is, is kind of down here.
117:09How do you feel about like Rashi rice? Is that too risky?
117:13No risk it. No biscuit. I feel, I feel great about that.
117:16It's, it's just that, you know, I think he might be able to should get some on top.
117:22I think maybe you should, you should 1000% get something on top.
117:26Pause. Also, also you, you want to, if you're going to make that, if you're going to make that bet, you need to, you need to insulate yourself.
117:35You need to insulate yourself with a pick. If not some, even if it's a future and you have to like swap
117:42picks in a different year, you just want to give yourself another at bat to try.
117:47If this goes really poorly and Rashi rice just crashes and burns, you want to give yourself another at bat to try to get that right.
117:55Because you're, you're, it's not going to hurt you lineup wise per se, but just losing a trade that can, that can
118:02soften the blow a lot of times. And if you, if you get that right, if you're out here listening to us
118:09during the rookie, you know, rookie draft season, male pattern, rookie horniness, it will help you get right.
118:15Yeah. I mean, look, if you're saying you won back to back to back to back, like, you know, you're, you're already well positive in the money.
118:23Right. And I agree with Doug here saying, you know, I'm not sure if I'm moving shuck straight up for a wide
118:30receiver, got to be a good one. If I'm not getting a QB in return.
118:35Absolutely. So, you know, some of those deals that you were putting out there that you haven't been at, you know, you
118:42shot for egg Bucca, which was, you know, maybe a little high, but that's where I, the range that I would want
118:49to keep shooting shots in for the most part.
118:52And now I went way down there and said, rice, I said, Rome.
118:56But, you know, egg Bucca has been flying up the crowdsource.
118:59Now, as I say that he's dropped down, but he's at 29 right now.
119:04So like, you know, could I get, you know, that, that, that'd be a kind of the range where I started in,
119:11like, can I get a Carnell take? Can I fit you?
119:14I think he has pickings, right? Yeah. Yes. He has pickings T Higgins and somebody else.
119:19Right. And so you tried to get flowers. You've moved on down the list.
119:24But I generally agree with Doug, but it is, it is his one, it is his way to upgrade.
119:30So like Rashi rice is probably a little risky there and it sucks if it doesn't hit and shucks awesome.
119:36And then that's, so that's not necessarily something that I'm like coming highly recommended.
119:40Really? That just is like, Hey, I've won three championships back to back to back.
119:45If you want to try to keep this fun rolling, like he's, he's somebody who comes out.
119:50And if, if he's right, he's going to be a wide, like you can not, you can, all I see online is
119:57how much Rashi rice stinks and not any good.
120:00And I'm just like, yeah, but you're not rooted in any sort of, he just, and if he leaves the chiefs, he's,
120:07he's not going to be as good. Maybe so, but generally, like if he plays, he scores five receiver one points.
120:14Look, man, there are people out here who are, who are actively, actively sharing Charlie colors, college stats as proof that he's a capable receiver in the NFL.
120:23Oh, he was awesome at Iowa state. And you don't even, but here's the thing about Rashi rice.
120:28If you watched him in college, you know, that the skillset and what he's doing for the chiefs is completely different than
120:35the way he was used in college. So if we're going to, if we're going to use a Charlie color math, then
120:42you can argue that there's a skillset that the chiefs have completely shelved in favor of what they needed for their offense.
120:49And Rashi rice can do everything when the chiefs drafted him.
120:53It was not based on the fact that he was an awesome yak guy.
120:57And after the catch guy, it was because he was a, he was a contested catch boundary receive boundary receiver that could do all the stuff.
121:05So if we're going to talk about Charlie color being awesome at Iowa state, then we, I'm going to fucking talk about
121:12Rashi rice being graded at SMU as an outside X receiver, just doing big boy stuff.
121:17Right. Well, so, okay. So in this, you know, if, if we, if we eliminate the, the, if, when, if we go
121:24back, I was just seeing where Rashi rice was or other players like that, but he's on a middling team, which you
121:31know, it isn't a bad team and he's got two good tight ends.
121:35He's got Christian McCaffrey and Brisa. He probably doesn't want to make any moves right now.
121:41So, you know, that's probably a moot sort of point.
121:44But, you know, it's, you got to find somebody to tango with, to be able to trade here.
121:49Um, you know, this, this guy's team's quarterback deficient with the, you know, daily 20, uh, I, you could, um, he's got
121:56Garrett Wilson and AJ Brown, you know, that's an opportunity right there to me.
122:01Like you're not, you're not doing shit with JJ McCarthy and Aaron Rogers as your quarterback right now.
122:06It doesn't matter what your team is. Um, you, you turn, you throw Tyler shuck his way.
122:12Now he might be feeling some type of way, uh, where you could go potentially figure out, you know, what, and he,
122:19did he said he tried for AJ Brown already?
122:22And this guy said, no. Um, but just throwing some other things out there, um, trying to find some partners.
122:28What do you think about? Let the medicine take hold.
122:31If this team sucks real bad, AJ, AJ Brown's going to start burning a hole in his pocket.
122:37Right. Uh, what do you think about? Um, we just talked about tooting on another team.
122:42Um, is there, would there be like the, the problem is if he moves off of tooting, you know, that he's kind of counting on tooting, right?
122:50I mean, I guess Pittman could slide in and be your, your, you got, it's a pretty deep starting lineup.
122:57Um, yeah, that's, I think, I think Helden can, can maybe, I think we like Helden a lot.
123:02He could potentially come in here. I think Godwin, uh, some, some, some fun depth there.
123:08Um, any other general thoughts on this squad or, or trades before we wrap this one up?
123:13If, if you are someone who subscribes to DJ more, having a bounce back with Josh Allen, that's another name that I
123:20want to throw out there with, with Conkers BFD.
123:23We don't have to get too crazy there and assume what those initials stand for, but DJ more, this guy's got Lamar Jackson's got Shadour Sanders.
123:31He's got some old guys mixed with, well, really just one young guy and Travion Henderson.
123:36But if you believe in DJ more and in a resurgence in Buffalo, that's another guy that could probably help you.
123:43That's not going to be, not be expensive. Right.
123:46Yeah. And he, and you know, that's not somebody that I want to trade Shuck for necessarily.
123:51No, but I mean, look, right. I want to keep those quarterbacks because if I have those quarterbacks, that means nobody else can have them.
123:59Right. And if I give one of them up, I want to get a premium.
124:04Right. It goes back to what Doug was saying in the comments there.
124:08It's like, it can't just be shop and Shuck willy nilly.
124:11It's you have to find the right partner to dance with, uh, that it's going to give you the proper value on
124:18them that, you know, doesn't have it. So I'm, I'm with you there.
124:22Um, I just, I, like you said, I think, I think you gotta, I'm trying to find that, you know, here's Roma
124:29dunes a, but this, you know, would you, would you trade, um, would you trade Shuck for Rome?
124:35I wouldn't know. Okay. Just there's the reason being we know, we know that Tyler Shuck is, is, is in an environment that favors him.
124:43We've seen Rome thrive in his environment, but weekend week out.
124:46I think this year, it's a much better bet that you're going to be happy with Shuck on more Sundays than you would with Rome.
124:54And so if I'm trading for Rome and I end up on the short end of the stick, now this is a
125:01little bit different because it's what two flexes and three receivers, three flexes and three receivers.
125:06So this is probably start 12, start 11. Just, I mean, I could, I could look up myself.
125:12Oh, one of my ear buds went out. So that's why it sounds weird.
125:16I was trying to figure out what was, um, six, seven, nine, 10, 11.
125:21Yeah. Yeah. So start 11, start 11. I could, I could, I could get a little bit more.
125:26I could be a little bit more into trading Shuck for Rome.
125:30I would, I would try to do that for Donald.
125:33Dougie said, get, get back a second, which I'd, I'd be, I'd be fully in support of that.
125:39But yeah. Yeah. Also, also, if you weren't listening earlier, if you're listening right now, Rashid Shaheed propaganda is about to get real aggressive.
125:47So you might want to look at, you might want to look at something to do there with, uh, something to do there.
125:54Cause you already got Darnold. Yeah. Like I, you know, this, this guy's a rebuilder and, you know, conquers BFD little conquers
126:01bad fur day, little Nintendo 64 game there. Good game.
126:04Um, it was, it was a good game. Um, um, this, like this guy's Yoshi's cart racers.
126:09Um, you know, he's got Brian Thomas, Marv, Quentin Johnston, Matthew golden.
126:13Right. Like, and I know you should have, and I both like Quentin Johnston this year, but like, I'm not like he's,
126:20he's a team that could potentially be interested in getting shocked, but there's not really like, there's nothing here that I want
126:27to give that up for at the moment. Right.
126:30Right. Um, so, you know, outside of Omar on Hampton.
126:33Right. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I, and obviously I don't think he's trading you that for that.
126:39So no. No, I think you've got to, gotta have a little bit more poise there, but this would be a team
126:46where it's like, all right, well, what do I got to go do to get Omar on Hampton from him?
126:52Let me, what do I got to give you?
126:55And he said, he didn't want to go 27 first, but if I give you shuck and, you know, tootin and, you know, just start throwing pieces together.
127:04And he said, he didn't want to give up a 27.
127:07Well, what's, what's team 11 look like? It's, I didn't see, I didn't see a trade may hurts.
127:13I mean, they're, they're, they're okay, but I could, it's probably most likely not going to be a top four pick.
127:20So, I mean, it's probably a middle pick, which is still going to be good in 27, but you would still have a 27 pick.
127:28I don't know. Um, I'm getting sweaty and tired here.
127:31So, yeah, I mean, like I said, we'll, yeah, I guess we'll be done with this for right now, but I just wanted to throw it out there.
127:40No, no, no. I, it's not sexy and nobody ever, nobody ever gives him his proper respect, but maybe, maybe find a,
127:47find a way to find a way to get involved with chase Brown there from the guy who said no to AJ Brown.
127:54Yeah. And I mean, you know, maybe you're, maybe, you know, starting the three wide receivers, you'd like a couple more killers.
128:01I mean, there's no, there, there's not a terrible amount of, you know, this Spyros, I guess we get, we all got
128:08for the most part, some sort of video game reference.
128:11Um, this guy's nobody's receiving core is like, Oh my God.
128:14Like there's just, you know, I'm in Ron, Justin Jefferson's pretty good.
128:18People did a good job of paying attention to the format here.
128:22Mm-hmm. Jamar chase, Nico and Zay. That one was real sexy.
128:26And I almost said, Hey, try to trade, try to trade Tasha for Zay.
128:30That's a decline. But he already did. He said he did and didn't happen.
128:34Yeah. So, uh, Taz hit us up. We'll help you navigate these waters.
128:39Appreciate you guys. Chev, you got anything else for the people out there?
128:43No, man. My voice is almost gone. I'm, I'm yeah.
128:46Yeah. It's time to wrap up. Um, we'll be back next Wednesday.
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