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1:00Booyah! What's good? We're up. We're live. Oh, we got a fresh crack.
1:05We're back. Took a little vacation. Boy hit the mountains up.
1:08Got some cool mountain air in his life. Had to take, but hey, we're back.
1:13We're ready. We're ready to roll. Season August is going to be a banger, and we are then going to be right into the season.
1:21And then I would say no more days off, but the boys got a day off at the end of September.
1:27Going to miss a week of football, unfortunately. A week of football?
1:31Yeah, a weekend of football. Where are you going?
1:34Me and the missus are going to a music festival in Kentucky.
1:38Snuck up to the mountains. Got a little taste of what early retirement life might be like.
1:43Oh, golly. Summering and 65 degree, no humidity is just chef's kiss.
1:47It's real nice. Then today was a blisterer out there.
1:50Had to change my underwear midday. Well, not because I'm...
1:53What's up, boys? Good to see you in the chat.
1:56Good to be back. I'm excited. How are we feeling, boys?
2:00Oh, well, I am... My nickname today is Professor Mudbutt, so you might want to ask Big Co.
2:06Well, you're on the side of the dirt, though, so that's good.
2:09Big Co. How you doing? Big Co is semi-retired, so that's...
2:13That a boy. That a boy. It was a hot and sweaty day today, and I didn't have to go work in it.
2:20That was very, very nice. Yeah. Yep. This ended my run of like a week and a half of not having to
2:27work in it, and it was brutal. Yesterday, I just tried to walk outside for 10 minutes at a time to reacclimate, but, you know, Charles...
2:35Walk outside for 10 minutes to reacclimate. Just keep going in and out, you know, just because I've been in AC or mountain air for a while.
2:44That's right. We're at the beach, boy. You know.
2:47Yeah, you got to get back into it. Got to get back into it.
2:51So, obviously... I just got out of it. Just got out of it.
2:55We got some training camp stuff going down. Lots to talk about here, and we've got questions.
3:01I know some of y'all asked some questions last week, and we didn't go live.
3:05Like I said, Dad took the day off, so we didn't quite make it on air, but we're back.
3:11We're going to answer all the paid questions that we have, but we're going to start off with some training camp chit-chat.
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3:42And we are working on ADP for that. So, join the free Discord if you want to hop in.
3:48Redraft mocks, because we've just kicked them off. We're going to do some fast ones.
3:52We're going to do slow ones. We're always going to have something rolling.
3:56So, make sure you check that out. And if you are in the $7, $15, $25 Discord, please join those and roll with us.
4:04So, kind of jumping into it here. Where do you guys want to start?
4:08What's been the most interesting bit of camp hype, news, hate that you guys have kind of seen today?
4:14Is Malik Neighbors is out there running around looking good.
4:18There was a Brazel injury. Pierce saw knee injury.
4:20But Stribbling's shining. Hey. Where do y'all want to go?
4:24You could have just stopped with Malik Neighbors. We can start there.
4:27We can stay there. We can remain there. So, no pup from Malik Neighbors.
4:32We're out there running routes. No restrictions. Let's go.
4:35Listen, we talked about the beginning of the season.
4:38There's a generational buying opportunity for guys like CeeDee Lamb, Patrick Mahomes, you know, and Justin Jefferson.
4:43And now it looks like there was a generational buying opportunity on Malik Neighbors.
4:47If you could just have the intertesticular fortitude to say, hey, yeah, I'll send the first and the second from Malik Neighbors.
4:54He could be had. I pulled that off in the league.
4:58I was thrilled about it. I almost called my doctor because I was suffering from priapism, if you know what that is.
5:05But, yeah, I'm curious to see you guys' thoughts.
5:08You got Neighbors? Wait a minute. You got Neighbors for a one and a two?
5:12Yes. A current, like in the draft, early first on the clock or next year's first?
5:17Like a 27 first and a 27 second. That's way too cheap.
5:21I know. I'm pretty excited about it, too. You should shut the curtains because the boys are looking for you.
5:28Yeah. No. Well, there was just been, you know, me and Big Co, we probably spent 40 minutes alone on an episode
5:34just talking about Malik Neighbors just about and what we would trade for him and basically that there is a generational buying
5:41opportunity and that he's probably going to be just fine.
5:45Now, hopefully in seven days, he hasn't tweaked something and he's sitting out and he does end up on Pup, right?
5:51You know, we're not out of the woods yet, so we don't want to go crazy celebration.
5:57But this is generally, you know, in 2026, like it's the overreaction to every single thing that can help you pay dividends,
6:04especially if you get into the echo chamber of the internet.
6:07Even in like, you know, no shade to anybody in the comments, but there's been plenty in our comments just in live
6:14shows and when all Neighbors is cooked. And it's like, well, everybody's always cooked whenever anything happens or they have a bad
6:21stretch or they don't start their career off awesome.
6:24You know, it's just like, oh, could we, could we relax a little?
6:28But, you know, Malik Neighbors did look good out there.
6:31I think, I think Big Co and I both agreed that there was, you know, buying opportunity here and we were pretty excited to do so.
6:39I know, I know, like I said, Big Co very, was very bullish on the fact of wanting to buy Malik Neighbors.
6:46So. Dude, I mean, I just, we can't, we can't overreact to, it's like, we can't overreact.
6:52To the new, hey man, it's not, he had a second procedure.
6:55We can't overreact to those things because it's dynasty.
6:58He's still 23 years old now at this point.
7:01And we've gotten upgrades everywhere except offensive coordinator for Malik Neighbors.
7:05And he's going to be great for Jackson Dart.
7:08And Jackson Dart needs someone like that to make it, make it an easy button, make it an easy button style offense.
7:14They added Isaiah Likely. There's a very strong likelihood that this runs through 150, 160 targets from Malik Neighbors if he's fully healthy.
7:22And another 110 for Isaiah Likely. And a 70, 60 to 70 for Cam Scadabo.
7:26This could be a really concentrated offense. You know, they've invested in the offensive line.
7:31They've done, they've done all the things, but hire a good play caller.
7:35Yeah. I mean, you know, Nagy had a little bit of success here and there, but he's been, you know, definitely the butt of some jokes.
7:44Roman is usually somebody who, you know, has ties to hardball, who has an okay stretch for a little while, but never
7:51is somebody who's going to elevate the offense to the high.
7:54Like I've always referred to him as like a training wheels part.
7:58He can get the offense going in the right direction, but he's not, he's not going to take the, he's not going
8:05to be the one that teaches you how to ride the actual bike.
8:09And, you know, he's certainly not going to get you doing any cool tricks, you know, teach you how to run the
8:16football next to the bike, but he won't actually like put you on the bike and run it.
8:22All right. And any thoughts on neighbors before we move on here?
8:25No dip bought dip bought Jeremiah. I see your question in there.
8:29I appreciate you. I will absolutely jump over there for sure here in just a second.
8:34But is there any other, before we jump over to Jeremiah's question or yeah, Jeremiah's question.
8:39Is there any other things that you want to absolutely hit real quick off the top that, that has really stuck out
8:46to you guys or has been something that's, you know, negatively or positively stuck out to you guys?
8:52I mean, you hit, you hit stripling, you, you, you, you hit stripling pretty quick.
8:57We could spend, we could spend a couple of seconds there.
9:00I wouldn't mind that. I mean, there's the part of me that everyone sees I'm Howie Mandel, the comedian.
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9:51They are here to help. Well, you know, I've been vocal on like, Hey, I think Pierce all if healthy could be
9:58a big part of this offense and be Kyle's number one.
10:01We've kind of all alluded to that moving. Yeah, not this year, but in the future of the 49ers.
10:07And I think that's kind of what they were hoping and believing in.
10:11Now we're having some, you know, it is basically August at this point, but if you're having some knee swelling already, that's,
10:18you know, this is already somebody who's been for one reason or another through his fault or not.
10:24Had problems of staying on the field. And now we're seeing it again.
10:28I'm not going to lie like that. That definitely my, my knees are a little shaky.
10:33I got, I got, I got hit and I'm like, Ooh, I don't know if I, I need to, I need to duck and move for a minute.
10:42I don't know if I need to be trying to swing on anybody right now.
10:47I gotta, I gotta get my legs back under me first.
10:50So, but the stripling part of it has been awesome.
10:53Like, you know, I, I, I saw the only negative comment I saw was from Des.
10:59As, and then I saw multiple people being like, that's not how they run the, that's not how they run their receivers.
11:05And that's not how they line up because they, they, they have tighter formations and do different things.
11:11So there's some route running officiant. Right. But stripling looked, has looked very, you know, at times in certain clips and it is what's.
11:19No, no. Stop with the caveats, bro. All right.
11:22Let me do it. It's a different gear. I will say that since you're, since you're a 49ers fan and you want
11:29to, you want to temper the expectations. Here's the thing from, we'll read, can we do 32 beat writers?
11:35Absolutely. Oh, this is from Grant Cone. It's a cough.
11:38Not him though. Not him though. This is, this is, this is now, this is how, you know, this is, this is.
11:45So he did something cool because Grant Cone is a covers the team, but he's a noted 49ers hater.
11:51I don't know if he's a Seahawks fan. Like he's just one of the most annoying people.
11:56And this is me. He's a troll. He makes money off being a troll and somehow he gets away with it.
12:03And it's ridiculous. So I'm going to run through this real quick.
12:07Call five passes from four different quarterbacks, including a leaping grab over the middle on a high pass from Adrian Martinez.
12:13Stripling isn't Brandon. I you or Ricky Pierce saw when it comes to route running, but the 49ers are finding ways to
12:20scheme him open and get him the ball on screen slants and digs.
12:24Expect him to have a highly productive rookie season.
12:27Even if he's not the number one receiver on the team.
12:31Yeah. I mean, look, we, we came in and we, we, at first I, I didn't love the stripling pick.
12:37Cause it's like, I think everybody in the, nobody in the draft was sitting there except for maybe some people in some
12:44front offices was sitting there going like, yeah, stripling there.
12:47You did see a little bit of echoes like, Hey, stripling is going to be one of these guys that everybody isn't really talking about.
12:55That goes pretty high. And he ends up going really high.
12:58And at first you're like, damn, why'd you do that?
13:02There's some other guy I would have loved this or this fit was good there.
13:06And then it's like, well, now that you've, now that all the chips have settled and everything is kind of like when
13:13you go back and watch, you know, one tape, he was, he did one thing.
13:18And when you go watch the other tape, he did another thing.
13:22So it was like, he, there's a multiple dimensions of, Hey, I can, I can, I can crush in the middle of the field.
13:29I can crush going down the field at Ole Miss.
13:33You know, he's, he's a very put together, well-spoken young man.
13:36He's big, he's fast, he's physical. And it's just, it's, it's something that you were like, Hey, well, it may not be
13:43this year, but that's how quickly these things change.
13:46And he may, he may just have to sit and wait his turn and you might see him in.
13:52And that's still maybe the case. Maybe Ricky Pierce all comes in here and plays, you know, almost the full season.
13:59And this knee thing kind of goes away and, and Christian Kirk comes out there and plays a reasonable amount.
14:05But, um, you know, right now he's getting huge opportunity.
14:08And the other two guys I just mentioned are two guys who haven't put together a full season and God knows when,
14:15at least since Ricky's been in the league or Christian Kirk, I can't tell you the last time that he played, you know, all 17 games.
14:23Right. So it seems like the opportunity is going to knock early and often, and he's cashing in on it right now.
14:30And it's awesome. I mean, he's got, it looks awesome anyway.
14:34Yeah. He's got the three Fs fundamental, fast and physical.
14:37Like let's, let's lock that in. Nothing. Damn. I thought that was a good one.
14:42I was drinking. That was a good one. You right in the middle that I was like, Oh, how many times did
14:49I draft this man in my rookie drafts? We got a ton of strip and the FFPC early rookie drafts.
14:55Thanks to Casey. Um, and I had, I was not up on my strip and we were on the clock.
15:01No, no, no, no. This is in May. This is an early May.
15:05This is in May and FFPC rookie. And I wasn't up on my strip and we were at two, three on the clock.
15:13And Casey was like, I think we got to look at strip here.
15:17And I was like, right now. And you know, there's a bunch of drafts going on.
15:22So we had to rock and roll. But within the next week or three, I caught up on my strip tape and
15:29I was like, Oh my God, I'm about to get this guy everywhere.
15:33Like there's still people on sleeper people sleeping. Yeah.
15:36Like I just, I got him at two. 10 to 10 in a draft with, with you the other day.
15:42I, it's a $50 league. It's not the, uh, you know, it's not a $500.
15:47The coast. Yeah. I think I, I think I just got him at two 10.
15:52I had to give up a 20. I had to give up a 20, 28 second round pick to trade in to get him.
15:59Cause I couldn't believe he was still on the board.
16:02And the only reason I waited that long to start trading is cause I got him at like two, three, two, four, two, five.
16:10And a whole bunch of sleeper rookie drafts already.
16:13And so yes, Casey, I'm, I'm riding passenger seat in the, uh, strip train.
16:17Yeah. He's, he's been somebody who, especially if you're not, if, if, if, especially if you're drafting on sleeper, right.
16:23The ADP for a while, at least you had to type him in and he was way down there.
16:29So it was very advantageous. So like people would just forget because it wasn't, it already wasn't a household.
16:36And then you're going through it. And then like, he's not anywhere near, you know, those top ranked players.
16:42And you know, it is what it is. You're going in the rookie draft, you're, you're trading, you're doing things and you know, you can't, you can forget.
16:50Yeah. Well, I know we probably need to move on, but let me get 30 seconds here.
16:56Nobody's going to go out. Most likely there are some people, there are some film guys out there in the, in the
17:03sleeper streets, but most people aren't going to go watch strips individual games.
17:07If you watch strips highlight tape, you will get a, you will get the action that Casey, you know, was alluding to.
17:14You will see him work short, intermediate and deep and look good doing all of it.
17:19You will see him break a tackle 10 yards from the line of scrimmage and then outrun everybody else to the house.
17:26And you'd be like that, that yes, absolutely. Put that guy on my team.
17:30So I recommend checking out a highlight tape. I do say that his highlight tape is like 15 minutes long because man was making highlights.
17:38I think it takes, you know, it's over two seasons, but anyway, give it, give it three minutes.
17:44Just turn it on for a second. If you don't know what's going on, if you still got a rookie draft, so
17:51you can figure out how high to take him in the second round.
17:55Yeah. Well, you can, you know, obviously at, at, at old miss, they used them, you know, kind of stretching the field
18:02a little bit more, you know, but at Oklahoma state, they were using them a little, you know, there there's a little
18:09bit more of like, Hey, this is, this is what 49ers a couple of years ago did with guys like Debo and
18:16not comparing him to Debo, but like, well, there's a little bit more of this is right.
18:21We got a big physical guy here. And like the last, the last thing that everybody saw from him was not necessarily
18:28like this route running middle of the field prowess.
18:31So you do have to go back a little bit, but I do, I do really like Oklahoma state tape was like,
18:38this is by far the best player on our team.
18:41And we're going to get this guy, the ball as often as possible.
18:45Right. Well, before we hit on Jeremiah here, who was kind enough to throw some cash in here, appreciate you.
18:52And I've been, I hate you up on, on the, on the discord.
18:56I don't, I don't think I ever heard back from you.
18:59But before we move off for the Niners here, and maybe we could double back on Pierce all at some point.
19:06And you guys could tell me how worried you are about them, but Jordan James broken rib here.
19:12Gotta be pretty excited for any black ownership right here.
19:15All right. That's a crazy, it's a crazy way to phrase that.
19:18I wasn't. Yeah. Kaelin black. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Way to fumble that.
19:22Way to fumble that Casey. I tweeted, I tweeted out when I saw the Jordan James rib injury.
19:28I said, this is a shout out to black ownership, you know?
19:32Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get some better small business loans for the community.
19:36Hey, we're for the people. That's right. Listen, I, this is his time.
19:40This is his chance. This is his chance to get, to earn his 12% target share or 12% backfield share, snap share behind CMC.
19:47As long as Christian McCaffrey is healthy. We're just whoever you're competing for 60 to 70 carries and 12 targets on the season.
19:55Yeah. Just, you know, I don't know. I don't know what to, I don't know.
19:59Jordan James is having a good camp and he got hurt late, but now Jordan James gets hurt early.
20:05So if black comes out here and shows, you know, like, Oh shit, we can't put this back in the bottle.
20:12I, you know, I don't, I don't think, I don't think James can get back in the good graces if black just
20:19kind of, and a broken rib is going to be, you know, that's a tough thing to, to be out there, you know, trying to work through.
20:27Right. I mean, it took, was, was Kaelin black, not the second running back taken off the board in the actual NFL draft.
20:35Yeah. Actual NFL draft. Yeah. So you have, you have the, if you're a draft capital snob, you can get all, you
20:42can get all worked up in your downstairs mix up about that.
20:45But I just, I just, I don't know. I think that this is, this is the, this is the time.
20:52Yeah. He is 1000% going to end up being the backup running back.
20:56They talked about how they liked him in pass protection.
20:59Now we just saw that go really poorly with a guy who everyone touted as one of the best pass protectors ever.
21:06Yes. So we can't put too much stock in that.
21:09Just hopefully he gets that part figured out so that he can, he can actually get some meaningful snaps and we can feel better about.
21:17Right. Early indication though, was a lot of hype for black, but James had the, had the role.
21:23Yeah. So, you know, this was, which was kind of to be expected because they did really like him.
21:29So third running back after Jadarian price. Third. Yeah.
21:32Crispy hit us up in the, in the chat real quick on that.
21:36He was, he was fast. Um, but yeah. So Kalen black has been very, uh, I think we just forget about love.
21:43Cause he was at five, you know, or whatever.
21:46Uh, Oh yeah. Yeah. We're just like, yeah. Cause he was up, he was out there with the quarterbacks where they normally get drafted.
21:53Right. Um, I said this back off the board.
21:56Did I not? You said it's second up, but price price.
22:00Oh God. You, you, you pretend like you pretend like price isn't even around.
22:04I do. I do. I choose not to, I choose not to actively, I choose not to participate because that is a
22:11Venus fly trap of fucking fantasy points. And I will not, I will not be sucked into the damn Seattle vortex of bullshit for 2026.
22:19I'm not. Let me tell you the one quick, easy way to get past some of that.
22:24I highly respect the head coach McDonald. I've really, I think we all were like, damn, obviously they overachieved last year, but it's not, wasn't a complete accident.
22:33Right. We all saw that turnaround coming. We just didn't think the offense was going to be able to carry that much weight.
22:40We knew the defense was going to be top three.
22:44Um, I don't think with a head coach that smart, that new age calculated, right.
22:48I don't think a calculator, I don't think a head coach that forward thinking, not to say the GM hasn't had a
22:55good run and his, you know, has a part probably pulls a ton away, but I don't think that coach, I don't
23:02think they're taking a running back at the end of the first round and not use them.
23:08I just, I can't, I can see it happen in a plenty of teams.
23:12I just, I can't see it happen in there.
23:15Yeah. And guess what? He was catching passes today.
23:18So, I mean, he can, he has hands. He does.
23:21Yes. I'd like to say he does have hands.
23:24I'm talking about running backs that have hands for 10 years price over the shoulder today.
23:29It was nasty. Yeah. We did see that. We did see that.
23:33All right. Um, let's, let's throw Jeremiah's question up on the board here.
23:37Keeper question. Keep three. Um, what's craft into 12th scat in the eighth Kyron and the 10th rice in the fourth 10
23:44team keeper league to running back three wide receiver to one tight end.
23:48Um, craft into 12th seems pretty obvious. Is that, is it, is it PPR half point PPR full point PPR tight end premium?
23:55Is it, is it? Yeah. Jeremiah hit that. He hit us up on a, he said something about, um, not being great in a discord.
24:03So he was here just a second ago to give us a little bit more, but let's just assume his PPR, um, scat in the eighth.
24:11I think that's pretty easy too. So that's two of them.
24:15Got to keep three. Craft into 12th is got to do that.
24:18I think I would keep, I'd keep craft scat and Kyron.
24:22Kyron in the 10th. Yeah, for sure. That's where I, that's where I'm landed.
24:26If you're, if you keep three. Yeah. Kyron scat craft.
24:30You can redraft rice and he's, you know, he's already going to be what I have the 10 spots.
24:36So rice would be first pick in the fourth.
24:38Okay. Not tight end premium. So if it's not tight end premium, do you want it?
24:43Would you rather have Rashi or do you still stick?
24:47We got to go with craft that late, right?
24:49I mean, where's craft that late is where's craft going generally.
24:53It's not that you, it's not that you don't want rice is that you could draft another player with that draft pick
25:00and you get Tucker craft into 12th round. Even with no premium, he's still top five tight end.
25:06Yeah. I mean, he was a tight end too before he got hurt.
25:10So, but this is, you keep all, you keep really good players.
25:14Kyron's basically a fourth round, you know, fourth round pick scats five, you know, five, six, and then Tucker craft is six, seven.
25:21Uh, I apologize. I just so happen to have a podcasters.
25:24He definitely did the six, seven dance. I just happen to have a mock here, um, that we're doing right now.
25:31Um, and Tucker craft is that six, nine and a 12 man.
25:35Yeah. So. What's the six free rounds? I mean, it's, it's not that you're like basically.
25:40Yeah. Yeah. You start from the back and taking the best players in the latest rounds possible.
25:45I usually like to warm up a little first and then go to the back.
25:50I like to get a little warmed up before I get back there.
25:54But, uh, if you're going to get right to it, then, uh, yeah, no, I just, I just think for me, I
26:01think there's just too much value in. And so where is scat packing this the fifth round?
26:06Yeah. Or fourth round four or five here, but I mean, yeah, we could call it.
26:11And if we look at it and I did, I fucking did it.
26:16Oh, okay. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Ah, this is a mock that we're in.
26:20We're doing right now. We're going to, Casey's going to show us, Casey's going to show us his cue guys.
26:27And I'm going to start sniping the shit. I don't have any guys in the queue.
26:32I don't know what I'm, this is my first redraft mock.
26:35I ain't even going to front, but I mean, four rounds of value.
26:39If we're just basing it on this four rounds of value on, on scat pack around the value on Rasheed rice, six rounds of value on Tucker craft.
26:48I just, a Kyron. Oh yeah. Kyron went to third in this one.
26:52Cause I took Kyron in third. Cause I still believe like, we just talked about Kyron the other day.
26:58And I got, I just so happened to have like a consensus ADP from him, not from us yet, but from some, from another website, uh, three, 3.5.
27:07So he's at basically right where you took him in scats at 4.5, right where you took him, uh, in the consensus,
27:14you know, ESPN sleeper and Yahoo or something else with a bunch of drafts all combined.
27:19So, um, that's right around on value. And I think where you're going there with it, Shev is, um, kind of right
27:26on, right on time of just like the, the value that you're getting, um, off of all those other players is like, you could just redraft rice, right.
27:35Um, if you want now there's, it's a keeper league.
27:38So the pool will be depleted and it'll be the, you know, where rice goes, won't be the fourth at this point.
27:45Right. Cause there's going to be keepers, but, um, you could, you essentially are.
27:50And, and rice is not like rice's value is so good.
27:53Right. Like if rice was right, if rice didn't get hurt, if rice didn't have suspensions, he'd probably be damn near a first round redraft pick.
28:01So then you'd be like, Oh yes, of course you have to keep it right.
28:06But right now the value is a little depressed on him.
28:09So I think, I think we got it. I think it's craft scataboo Kyron.
28:14Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you really, I mean, if you really want rice back, just take them in the third
28:21round or the second, you know, or I mean, it could even be a first round pick because like I said, you're
28:28going to, there's going to be a bunch of depletion going on when you start.
28:33So there's, you know, the first 10 guys are not going to be the first 10 guys that we see on this mock right here.
28:40Yeah. Right. Like all those guys are probably kept kept almost exactly.
28:44So, all right. Well, I am on the clock.
28:47This is my team here. I got B. Sean, Brees, AJ Brown, Bucky, Terry McLaurin, uh, Fanning Jr.
28:53I took Tyson. I didn't, I didn't love my choices at that seven, one spot.
28:58Um, where would you go? Here, chef. What's your thoughts?
29:01Let me see. Let me zoom in here a little bit.
29:04Oh, there we go. It's a two. I get action.
29:07The two early for me to take Wanda. I was a little early for the old one.
29:13I don't know. I don't know. Just a little bit.
29:16Just a little bit. Little, little, little redraft mock for your pleasure here.
29:20A little bonus content. Um, I don't love any of the running backs here.
29:24Nope. Not in love with it. And I'm okay there already.
29:28I already have three. I feel okay about that.
29:31Jacoby Myers. I'd rather have Wanda. I think, um, Jaden Reed, Matthew golden.
29:35I get to pop two off here. My none guy.
29:38I'm in all. It's not a tight end. You just took Harold Fannin.
29:42Yeah. Almost certainly not a tight end. You like my none guy here.
29:46What's the quarterback? You got to take my none guy.
29:49If you get a chance, if you get, if I get all, I got a chance right now.
29:55I could, well, it's too much, too much upside to leave them on the table.
30:00I got Herbert, the homes Brock. Yeah. I feel like there's still, there's a, there's a pretty thick tier there that you're, that you're, that you're good with.
30:09All right. Well, I'm kind of Wondell. Wowzers. Fuck it.
30:12Wowzers. I just feel like there's just some. Who could be awesome, but.
30:16If you're going to do that, just take, you take Michael Pittman.
30:20I could take Michael Pittman. Yeah. I would take, I would take Pittman.
30:24I mean, you would take, everyone's taking Pittman over Wondell.
30:27Yeah. I mean, I hate. I got both of them.
30:30So I absolutely hate Michael Pittman. And I said, definitely should have.
30:34Definitely should have taken. You like Monunga. The guy.
30:37Yeah, I do. Monungus. But I don't like looking for wide receiver a whole lot later anyway.
30:42So I don't mind that a double tap you got there.
30:46Yeah. I mean, Monunga gain well, Aaron Jones. So we're just getting into the redraft streets.
30:51Like I said, I, this is my, this is actually really, I mean, I've done a decent amount of best balls, but
30:58like this is my first redraft slow mock that we're doing.
31:01We're going to have fast mocks join the discord.
31:04We're going to have slow mocks. Keep it rolling.
31:07We'll have ADP for your pleasure here. Coming soon.
31:10Anything you want to talk about before we get off the screen here, boys?
31:14Oh, I, so. Yeah, I've been having some aggressive visions about Rashid Shaheed.
31:18You're back on your Shaheed shit, huh? Yeah. I was never, I was never off.
31:23The Seahawks almost forced me off. They're like, sir, this, this ship is sinking and you're going to die.
31:29If you don't, if you don't get on the life raft.
31:33And I was like, nah, loving Shaheed is wrong.
31:35I don't want to be right. That's right. I think I'm the only one without a quarterback.
31:41Oh, Dougie doesn't have a quarterback. Well, I got, I auto, I auto the court.
31:46I didn't mean to take, I didn't mean to take old Jackson dark.
31:50Oh, the soaking assassin himself. All right. Well, here's a, here's a good, we'll get back to some camp news here.
31:56And then there is a couple other questions we could answer real quick in there.
32:01And we do have questions on the site. But Alec Pierce at eight, nine.
32:06And I, and I just was on the clock in a best ball and I don't, I could look it up where I actually took them.
32:14But how are we feeling about Alec Pierce right now?
32:17If we go back to the kind of the camp hype stuff, you know, they're, they're, they're saying, Hey, maybe one or
32:24two more weeks before we see him, he's dealing with some, some potential, you know, discomfort there maybe.
32:30And then, you know, maybe a little bit of a, you know, Ballard has said, Hey, maybe at some point we need
32:37to, in a week or two, maybe we need to assess what veterans are out there.
32:42And in digs or Debo or, you know, Keenan Allen, or I don't, I'm not putting any of those names in his mouth.
32:49But there was part of a quote where he was talking about potentially perusing the veteran aisle.
32:54So how are we feeling about Alec Pierce and the Colts?
32:58Daniel Jones cleared JT having a hold in of sorts.
33:01You just need to me, we just need, we just need him to get, I mean, what, how, how puffed up is he?
33:08I guess it's just, you know, we need to get busy.
33:12Yeah. We just need to, we just need to figure out what this, what type of pup.
33:17This is just a tiny amount of pup, just a teeny piece of pup.
33:21Are we talking weeks in the camp pup? Or are we talking, Hey, we just need you.
33:27We're going to start you here. And then as soon as you can pass the physical, you come off the pup.
33:33Right. Here's, here's the thing. This, especially right now, like redraft.
33:37If you got a draft anytime soon, redraft best ball, whatever you can dodge these guys, but like dynasty Alec Pierce right
33:44now, if anybody, if he's on the pup and there's a lot of pup, that's a great buying opportunity.
33:50He got really, he got relatively expensive for his price really quickly.
33:54And I'd love any kind of new found buying window to get more Alec Pierce.
33:58So whether that's through startups this year where he falls a little bit, cause he's on the pup, he has a little
34:05PUP beside his name or in an existing league where, you know, somebody wants to start hot and they want to trade,
34:12you know, if he, if he's hurt, he got an ankle problem, whatever, like a banded redraft, maybe actually knock them down and, and, and let it count.
34:21Hmm. All right. The old, the old say, you don't, you don't draft hurt players.
34:26Right. But in dynasty, but you're fine with, you're fine with neighbors right now though.
34:31And redraft, like I have it to, I've, I've got 25 underdogs under my belt at this point, or at least past where neighbors is drafted.
34:39I don't have one neighbors on underdog yet. The value was so good.
34:43I can't, I just kept clicking them. I was getting it.
34:47I get it. If it doesn't go my way, I lost 10 bucks.
34:51If it goes my way, maybe I want a million for sure.
34:54For sure. But in the last, right, right. But in the last like two weeks, you know, where he was at the,
35:01he started to potentially creep in the fourth round now, but like in the middle of the third, it's like, I got,
35:08you can't know you're not getting another Malik neighbors there.
35:12You're right. You're not wrong. You're right. But like, if he does not play the first four or five, six weeks, I've been all along.
35:19Like if just after that second surgery is like, what are we doing here?
35:24This man is an absolute monster. If outside of the quarterback, he's the most, you know, you know, I can say do new defensive linemen, red rushers.
35:32But like Malik neighbors is the most, the second most, uh, you know, important player on the giants.
35:38You know, right. So like, shit, like, why are we rushing this guy?
35:42Maybe nobody around there thinks that's rushing, but all of a sudden he went from things are a problem and he can
35:49barely jog to first base on a celebrity softball game.
35:52And now he might play week one, yada, yada, every Twitter doctor and their brother was like, this guy's missing half the season.
36:00This is again, this is why, this is why you can't get the, this is one of the downsides of the 24 hour news cycle.
36:08Yeah. Cause yeah. Okay. Was Malik neighbors running this shit?
36:11Like was, was he running the first base? Like his life depended on it?
36:15Or was he just kind of trotting around fucking around?
36:18Like not being, not taking it very serious, not caring if everybody on the internet was going to overreact to it.
36:25Right. Oh, it's a gimpy looking dog. Don't get me wrong.
36:28I'm sure you saw it. Like it was not a slow jog.
36:32It was a gimpy looking job. It was like something ain't right jog.
36:36But now there's clips out there from him. Again, today he looks really, really good.
36:41And that's what matters. I don't, I could care less what he looks like jogging around a base in, in, in April or May.
36:49I, I, I will die on that hill. Like, I don't, I'm not gonna, I'm not going to overreact about people were freaking out about to jump subjects.
36:58Well, let's, let's tie it back to what we were talking about originally.
37:02Alec Pierce. How scared am I about Alec Pierce?
37:05Not that scared. If we get to pads coming on and joint practices and stuff, and Alec Pierce still isn't practicing, then I'll freak out.
37:12We knew, they knew, the Colts knew that he was going to have to have a procedure in the off season.
37:19They knew that he was going to be in a walking boot during OTAs and, and mini camp.
37:25And this seems like it's all part of the plan.
37:28It's not like, oh, this is unexpected. So that's why I said, how pumped up are you?
37:33Are you just weeks away from being able to contribute or is it just, you need to pass a physical, you need
37:40to pass the, the, the physical and the conditioning test to be allowed to, to be allowed to practice.
37:46Are you going to step out on the field and, and have a setback?
37:51Are you going to, you know, that's just, that's really, you know, really the only one, once, once we pass a little
37:58bit of time of him being on the field, I'm, I'm cool with it.
38:02But yeah. And I mean, like they're still, if I'm not mistaken, they reported a few days ago.
38:08So they're just, they're, they're just now getting through the ramp up period to where they can, you know, to where they
38:15can go and put pads on and stuff. Right.
38:18So yeah, we just have to, we have to condition ourselves.
38:21You guys do a tremendous job of, of being a thermostat, not a thermometer.
38:26And we have to continue to condition ourselves to not freak out about news in, in, in May, in, in April.
38:32So, and, and when they're, when football is months away from being played, I don't care what somebody looks like to look,
38:39there's a picture of two looking fat on a boat, on a yacht during the off season.
38:45Does that back problems right now? Hey, but the, the point in all that, the point in all that being, I can't, I'm not going to react.
38:53I'm not going to react to, to not football stuff in negatively impacting someone.
38:58Yeah. I just, I, I won't do it. Yeah.
39:00Okay. That's, that's good. And other, and other news, Trelon Burks making plays.
39:04Hey, what is this? Is this, you're not fooling me.
39:08I'll play. I'll portray Lombarks is probably still on several teams.
39:11Just chilling. Oh yeah. At the end of the bench.
39:14I can't, I can't quit him. Just chilling. All right.
39:17Before we, I want to jump over to the questions here.
39:21I had a couple more things on the list here.
39:24If anybody wants to take anything, I mean, the Brazel injury is even better for Coker, right?
39:29Not that I thought he was really going to do anything, but I think I, I like Coker a lot.
39:36Um, I thought he was great at the end of last year.
39:40I love what we're seeing. Um, so that's great.
39:42Uh, we'll see what happens there. Um, Brown's QB battle.
39:46Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Deshaun's probably going to win that one.
39:49Um, and would, would we, would we be shocked if Deshaun comes out here and is, is okay.
39:55You know, just, just mediocre, right. Just, but better than he's been like all that, all that just weight and stink is kind of off of them.
40:04This offense seems to be something that would be more in the wheelhouse of how he wants to operate than what Stefanski brings to the table.
40:12Right. Um, so I find that, that I just feel like it's going to be a, an easier fit and transition.
40:19And they're going to want to see if they can get anything out of Watson with this person.
40:24They made all the investments. He's probably going to have a little bit longer of a, of a leash.
40:30Right. Um, so yeah, it's either that or he won't be on the team because this is the last year.
40:37Right. Right. Um, that's, I don't know how that goes.
40:40If he's not named the starter. Yeah. You had a little JJ Kyler Murray dust up.
40:45I like that. Love that. Love them. I love them.
40:48I love them boys. Are getting school me. What happened?
40:51I just, I just saw them. Did they shove each other?
40:55Yeah. They were shoving out there. I think I did not Kyler.
40:58They, they, Kyler might've thrown a pick or something.
41:01And I don't know if JJ was barking from the bottom.
41:05Exactly. I don't know what happened, but I saw a clip right before we got on here.
41:10That's AI. That was AI. Somebody got you. Maybe they didn't.
41:14I saw it really happened. Saw a dust up.
41:16That would be like the perfect first fake camp battle AI thing to do is those two guys get mad at each other.
41:24Can you describe the ruckus, sir? It wasn't like a ruckus.
41:27They were just, they were just kinda. Sorry. That was a breakfast club.
41:31Did they, did one of them poke the other one through the face mask?
41:36Yeah. He put us up. Yeah. Like Captain Insane.
41:39All right. Last one though. I think, because I just feel like it's everywhere right now.
41:44And Marvin Harrison, right? Every, every single person is making money right now off of hating on Marvin Harrison.
41:50So is this something that, and you know, when you, and I'm not trying to defend Marv by any stretch of, of the imagination, right?
41:58Who's the better guy to have in dynasty shriveling or it's shriveling is way more valuable than black.
42:03I just saw that one come in. So shriveling for sure.
42:07I'm not trying to necessarily defend anything that Marv is doing or isn't doing.
42:11But is, is all of this hate warranted and have you worried at all?
42:16Or is this something that it's like, this is something that is getting clicks right now and people are interested in.
42:22So everyone just keeps pressing the button again. He's had a couple of drops here and there.
42:28Has he been running full speed, full ramp up on everything?
42:31No. And then like, well, then, then they show a clip of, you know, Michael Wilson running the same things.
42:37And like, well, yeah, the ball just hit Michael Wilson in the chest for Marv.
42:42It was fucking three feet out in front of him.
42:45Not that he shouldn't catch it, but like, then there's like, oh, he drew Marv.
42:50Why is Marv dropping this ball? They see another angle of, and it's a fucking duck.
42:55And I'm not trying to defend him. I'm just saying that like, it just seems that like, this is, I don't know.
43:02And I'm maybe tell me I'm off base here.
43:05Listen, actually, I don't know where you're going. I don't know where you're going.
43:09So I just, do you want to go first, Corey?
43:13I'll chime in. If you need a second to really figure out if you're going to hammer this guy's, you know, coffin in the ground.
43:20No, I'm not going to hammer his fucking coffin in the ground.
43:24What I'm going to do is I'm going to say, hey, now is the time.
43:29If you've waited for this long, we're going to pull, we're going to pull some codenomics and we're going to pull an
43:36Anthony Richardson where we just keep buying the prices.
43:39It gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. Like this is, this is where, this is where you can't abandon your priors.
43:45Like, do we think Marvin Harrison Jr. is good at football?
43:49That's not a rhetorical question. Like, yes, I do.
43:52I do. There's too much evidence to point to the fact that he is indeed good at football.
43:58Yeah. And I was, while I was reading something about how most of the scouts and evaluators throughout the league are just
44:04completely puzzled as to why it has gone the way that it has with Marvin Harrison Jr., which leads me to believe
44:11that everybody and their mother still believes that he's fucking talented.
44:15But Casey, it goes back to a thing that you and I talked about at the beginning of the season last year.
44:22I just don't think that this is the place where he, we're going to get the best version of Marvin Harrison Jr.
44:29Obviously. And I, and it could change on a dime.
44:32I don't like, I don't like overreacting to, to camp news like that because it's, it's counterintuitive to what we believe about a player.
44:40Oh, he dropped the ball. Oh, is he not, he's not good.
44:43Oh, Casey, we did an episode in the early in the off season where we talked about how he was at the
44:50top in 12 games played 12 guys that play 12 games or less.
44:54He was at the top in red zone targets, in zone targets, first read target share, all these, all these things that
45:01say my play caller believes that putting the ball in my hands is a plus is a plus for the offense.
45:08My quarterback is able to, my quarterback is, is throwing me these balls.
45:12It's just a matter of getting it, getting, developing the consistency.
45:16And every single time we got a flash, it was like, we, we get, we get hurt or he has an emergency
45:23appendectomy or he gets a concussion or, and now going into, going into year three, we still have those unanswered questions and
45:30it hurts worse because the other guy in his class that it was a debate between, you know, do we take Malik neighbors?
45:37Do we take Marvin Harrison? There's no question that Malik neighbors has been better.
45:41So now you're like, well, am I just stuck holding the bag with Marvin Harrison?
45:46I don't think you are, but even still, even if you are like, let's keep buying.
45:51There's no, there's no, there's no way. There's no planet where he's going to pull a Rasheed Rice and you're questioning what his future is in two years.
46:00It's just get the football together. And it's been, Oh, it's been okay.
46:04It hasn't been shitty, right? He's not pulling a trailing Burks on you.
46:08He's not pulling. He's, he's not pulling a John Baldwin.
46:11He's not, he's not just gonna, he's not going to just disappear.
46:15I'll help it. So I, we just got to calm the hell down.
46:19I feel like, but that's, that's my rant here.
46:22Okay. I like it. I like it. I mean, that's typically my job around here.
46:27But right. Oh, and we, I think this, and I feel like what I just have recently seen is we saw the
46:34interview where he's talks about, you know, negative, how he just, he thinks about the negative.
46:39He doesn't want to think about the positive stuff.
46:42He thinks about the negative things and people are saying, well, his confidence is shot.
46:46And we, we all collectively, it was the Seahawks game where he had a terrible run out in the beginning of the
46:53game and in the back half of that game, he catches a touchdown pass.
46:58And you could just see this just emotional block, like kind of just fall off of his shoulder.
47:04You could see it in his body language of just like, oh my God, thank God I caught that ball.
47:10Yeah. You know? Yes. And that is, that, that is the only reason that man will fail as if for whatever reason, his confidence gets shot.
47:18And now everyone's hip to, oh, where's Marv's confidence?
47:21Like, and they're taking it from that press. Conference is just him not trying to like, he was basically saying, Hey, I'm,
47:28I'm aware of the things that I'm fucking up.
47:31Like I've, I'm not looking at the positive stuff.
47:34I'm looking at the things that I can get better at.
47:37Right. And so I think that was slightly overblown there.
47:40And then, you know, every time I turn around, it's, you know, well, he dropped the ball and then Michael Wilson caught it.
47:48It's like, you know, Michael, y'all boys didn't give a single fuck about Michael Wilson until last year, about week eight, not
47:55a one of you, not a single one of you.
47:58Nobody cares. I like him. I mean, we all could, a lot of people liked him, but he was dead for so many minutes.
48:05I agree with Shev that the buying window, I don't think the buying window is quite as open as it will.
48:12I think this is our, we're early to the buy window party, right?
48:16The spin it, the, you know, I think the average person isn't quite as on top of this as we are as
48:23the, the dynasty fantasy football Twitter community. Like most people are probably another week or two away from really hearing this go
48:30through all the podcasts for the next week and see in all these clips and all this stuff.
48:36We're, we're, we're just going to see that stuff the first day.
48:39Right. So we're probably, it's a week or two away from maybe maximizing that buying window.
48:45The ship is saying is, I don't disagree. The one thing I could say is you should have laid out some really
48:51good examples and the she rice example. And like he's, Marv's not going to go do something crazy and get in trouble,
48:58but you do, if you want to play the, what could happen, this non-zero chance one meter up today.
49:04What's that about? Yeah. If you want to have, if you want to do the not fun meter and you just want
49:11to say, Hey, this actually could happen. It's very, very unlikely, but it could happen.
49:16Maybe this is his daddy's dream. Maybe Marvin Harrison, maybe Marvin Harrison wants to be a pilot.
49:22Maybe, maybe, maybe that man wants to be a truck driver.
49:25Maybe he wants to go work with T-Rex. Maybe he wants to drive NASCAR.
49:29You know, he's too tall, but I'm saying, I just, I don't think you dominate college football like that because it was your dad's dream.
49:37Right. You could dominate college football a lot easier than you can dominate.
49:41You certainly can, but like you, you would, if that's your dad's dream, you go to college and you go do like you, you go do something else.
49:50I didn't say it was a highly likely situation.
49:53Yeah. I've seen plenty of people. It is possible for sure.
49:57It is possible. Does he love it? And I mean, listen, you've seen people say that.
50:02I haven't seen that. I'm not copying that from anybody.
50:05No, no. I'm not saying that you are. I'm just saying, I've seen that same theory of, of floated out of them,
50:12which is, is, look, there's plenty of guys in the league who were like, Hey, this is, this is my ticket to get to somewhere else.
50:20And so, and I don't even, they don't love football like that.
50:24And that's what makes the difference between when we talk about guy, like, do you love this shit or not?
50:30Like you're not going to be able to, very few guys are just going to be able to not love it and be good to great.
50:38I think Marv, for sure. Maybe he doesn't love it.
50:42Maybe like his dad loved it. Potentially. He's also not on the Colts with Peyton.
50:46Yeah. What are we doing? Arizona will do that to you.
50:50You, you, you, we stick him with awful with in one of the worst organizations.
50:55There's one of the few organizations that I can, I can unequivocally say is worse than the Titans.
51:00Yeah. You stick him in the worst environment possible with a quarterback who I, again, we talk about not loving it.
51:07He was clearly checked out and then they, they decided to move on from a midway through the season.
51:13He finally gets the breakthrough that he needs. And then he gets, and he has to miss time for an appendectomy.
51:20You saw him look good on Monday night football versus the Cowboys.
51:23You saw him, you've seen these flashes, but we, we didn't have any sort of predictability with the inconsistency at the quarterback position.
51:31And is he, is he a guy, is he an Andre Johnson where he just over, he makes Matt Schaub look like
51:38a pro, like a, like an above average quarterback for years on end.
51:42Probably not, but is this a guy that's capable of turning in pro bowl caliber, if not all pro caliber seasons?
51:48I still believe that. I just, you have to, you have to evaluate what he's actually doing and whether or not, I
51:55think this would be a great case for our boy, Joseph to give us some P whopper numbers on, on Marvin Harrison jr.
52:03Because I think that what he's actually doing and when he's targeted and how often he's targeted are not lining up with what he's actually doing.
52:11I like it. Yeah. I mean, I think that's, could be certainly part of it.
52:16And I, you know, he's obviously not somebody who is always just a, just the speediest guy ever, but you know, he's a big physical presence.
52:24He obviously knows where to, what to do out there.
52:27Confidence is number one, but, and the, the other thing is, is like what, what the difference may be between him and
52:34what his dad is, is maybe slight love, but also just like it.
52:38And I, well, I can't, I don't want to say this because I, there's allegations on his dad, but like in no,
52:45and no using this as a, as a metaphor, like he's not a killer.
52:49He doesn't seem like he's got that killer. Like his dad has, right.
52:54His dad's just, I know, I know, I know, I know.
52:57I didn't know how else to say it. Yeah.
53:00You know, I know, I know that's so good.
53:03Hey, we're, we're far enough removed to where you can go figure out whatever the hell.
53:08I didn't, it wasn't how I didn't say it that way because of just tough.
53:13If you want to, you want to Google it, Google it.
53:16Yeah. Right. I, I, it was a tough times, make strong men, strong men, make easy times, easy men makes, you know, weak men, weak men.
53:24Like I'm not saying he's weak. I'm just saying he didn't grow up like his dad.
53:29No chance. He grew up. His dad's a hall of favor.
53:33He grew up a millionaire. And the last thing we need to move on from Marv.
53:38The biggest thing that Marv needed to do with that, other than the fact that it was being filmed and he was dropping the ball.
53:46If he didn't just have those drop, the only thing he needs to do is not get hurt.
53:51They want a training camp. Right. Right. So I don't really have a prep up, but right.
53:57I don't have a problem with him going three quarter speed.
54:00I don't either. I don't have a problem with that at all.
54:04The biggest thing we need, the least thing he needs to do is go get hurt and be like, and now he's
54:11hurt and blah, but you know, just catch those balls that come close.
54:15Just, just get those, just snap those, just snap them.
54:18So we don't have to have those pictures of those easy drops on Twitter flying around.
54:23And now everybody's making clickbait, but there is something behind, you know, it's not just clickbait.
54:28He dropped those balls. That's what I mean. Just catch the ball.
54:32You can run as slow as you want to run.
54:35Just don't drop those. Also, I think, I just, I think that we're, we're all underwhelmed with what, what, from a physicality perspective on what it looks like.
54:44Correct. That's what, that's a big part of it too.
54:47That's number one from confidence in that. And that's where that, you know, anecdote came from, from, from me of just being
54:54like, if, if that would just get turned up to the Andre Johnson level where he was a, he was a calm,
55:01cool kind of guy behind the scenes. Didn't say much, which is kind of like, seems like what Marv is.
55:08If he could turn it up on the field, like Andre and what did to your boy, you know, out there Corlin
55:15Finnegan, yeah, you know, breaks off his ass. All right.
55:18So hit this question. And then that'll take us into the first question that is on the website, because these are kind of close.
55:25Yeah. I have a philosophy question. I've been tanking for two years.
55:29I'm ahead of schedule. I have six first round next year and three seconds, two thirds.
55:34It would be an ugly tank, but I'm willing to do it.
55:38Well, let me, let me chime in here. Cause we're ready.
55:42And in the books that we're going to hit.
55:44And it's basically the same exact question. I don't think it's it.
55:48I may be the same guy. Cause his name's Cameron too.
55:52So Cameron, we're about to be looking at your team.
55:55It looks like the same exact guy. So you have six first round picks says, and in three seconds, you don't have
56:02to take, if you got half of the first round, right?
56:05I it's very unlikely. It has happened. You had, you can see a guy that has three or four first round picks.
56:12And they're all the best teams. Cause the best teams traded their first to try to get better to win.
56:19But if you got five or six, six first round picks, you gotta have a couple in there that are bad.
56:25Right? So like, you don't have to tank. And so he says this in the chat, it is his same guy.
56:32So we can go to his question. We can go to his team.
56:36Cause looking at his team, his question that he sent us was, you know, I got six first round picks.
56:42I think my team is too good. I will chat.
56:45I will tank, but I don't know what to do.
56:49Cause I'm, I think I think my team is too good.
56:52So Cameron's team, Casey and, and Shiv, my man is way too good to tank.
56:57You're on the verge. He's so good with all those first round picks mixed in.
57:02You're on the verge of risking the rest of the league folding up.
57:06Like man's got Drake, may Jaden Daniels, Mac Jones, the ghost of JJ McCarthy, uh, the ghost of Kirk cousins.
57:12So he's got two starting quarterbacks, Drake, man, Jay Daniels.
57:15They both go into first round of a startup and Mac Jones waiting in the wings, James cook, Travion Henderson studs, RJ
57:22Harvey, Braylon Allen, Laquan Allen, Isaiah Davis, Isaiah Davis getting a lot of, a lot of pub, uh, course, two stud running
57:29backs and RJ Harvey, who I like a lot.
57:32This is guaranteed floor RB two for years. JSN Malik neighbors, day flowers studs, Marvin Harrison.
57:37He sucks. We just talked about that. Ricky Pearsall, pour one out.
57:41Uh, probably a huge buy window coming up for Ricky Pearsall, Xavier worthy.
57:45So like three stud wide receivers, JSN Malik neighbors real quick.
57:48I'm going to, I'm going to refund you in here since you hit us over here.
57:54So, so you're not nice for the people, for the people.
57:57Uh, so massive amount of wide receivers and then Sam Laporta, Arundi Gadsden, AJ Barner, and Ben Sennett sitting there waiting to
58:04do something like you got starters across the board.
58:07Some of them absolute studs, stud quarterbacks, stud running backs, stud wide receivers and Sam Laporta.
58:12If Sam Laporta has no back injury, good grief shift.
58:15And then six first round picks. So my point was, I didn't realize it was the same guy for a minute, but
58:22like, I knew this question was coming. It's like, you can't tank with that team.
58:27It's impossible. So let your T okay. Give up on your first round pick being good, but you got five more.
58:33So those, you know, or I mean, being bad for your first round pick being early, you're just going to have to go.
58:41If you're good, then you push those other ones down, right?
58:44Go win the championship. He just, he said in the, in the chat, because I don't know if he saw, he said
58:51he's got the one on one two and 26.
58:54Jeez. So he's going to have Jeremiah. Now you just show it off.
58:58Yeah. So he has the first of the black sheep.
59:01Who's a rebuilder. He's got Gentitude and who is milk middling.
59:05Like I just, I'm not moving. I'm not moving at that black sheep first, but the one, what are you talking about for next year in 27?
59:13Okay. Yeah. 27. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. He's got that first for 27.
59:18Is there any reason to move off the 26 current one Oh one for him?
59:22Do you think? No, no. I mean, package it up.
59:26Go get B John. I don't, I still think you still got to add a significant amount to it to try to
59:33get B John, but it's worth it. I was going to say, I'm glad that you said that because I was trying
59:40to find the team that B John is on.
59:42If B John or Gibbs is not on a contender, like I saw Brock Bowers is on Mr.
59:48Haldo, whoever that is, is a rebuilder. And you were talking about Sam LaPorta.
59:53I I'm sending a first, a second and, and Sam LaPorta to try to get Brock Bowers.
59:58Love it. Just the B John team is, is okay.
60:01They're classified as a rebuilder, but they're, you know, they got, they got some okay players.
60:06It's solid. It's solid enough. I mean, they're, they're, they're quarterback room is rough.
60:11It's Bryce young and Justin Fields. Oh my. But when you're packaging up, when you're trying to go get like a Gibbs
60:18or a B John, you know, you're trying to keep, when you got that many first round picks, you're trying to keep
60:24the one that looks like the worst team. So you give yourself a chance.
60:29And if I got B John or Gibbs, I'm like, I'm not making this trade.
60:34If you don't give me Sally Joe's first round pick, who's the worst team in the league either.
60:39So like, you're going to have to fight that battle if the other team is smart enough to ask for it, but
60:46you're trying your best to keep, you know, your first, your best first rounder next year, if possible, if not the best,
60:53the best two, if you can, and then play with the ones, you know, in the middle, you know, don't come out
61:00and try to give them big coast first round pick.
61:03Everybody knows who's going to win a championship, right?
61:06Don't try to come send out the first, the one 12 next year, try to give them the middle picks.
61:13So they don't necessarily look like you clicked the best team in the league first.
61:17And then you start arguing about who's first round picks is the best and which one's the worst.
61:23I try to give the middle ones, uh, going after Brock Bowers is probably a really good idea.
61:29Not that Sam Laporta couldn't really stay close enough to him in fantasy points.
61:33If everything all worked out for Laporta, but if you were to go from Laporta to Bowers, you could move away from that.
61:40If his back injury is fine, which he's cleared, but you know, he, I just need Laporta to go see Matt Stafford's
61:47back doctor and everything will be all right. Yeah.
61:50Yeah. No, I mean, you, you can't, you can't tank you're, you're in good position.
61:55I think you're, you've got, you've got the future secured.
61:58You've got the one-on-one like, like these guys are saying, like you can move that to do to try to, you know,
62:05obviously the only thing you're doing is trying to get another elite that you're not trying to diversify the, from the one-on-one and move back and do it.
62:14You know, I'm just, I'm trying to get a great player.
62:17One of the cornerstones at a position or just draft Jeremiah Love.
62:21Right. And then from there you could do, you know, you don't have to keep Jeremiah Love.
62:27You could do. Yeah. You're not in a hurry.
62:29Right. Yes. It's Jeremiah Love or, or trade. So do you, do you guys want to, would you move off right now?
62:36You're just going to hang on to all the 27 first right now.
62:41You know, there's no reason to be trying to get crazy with those right this way.
62:46And when you're in the 26 draft, just be patient and hang on to all the 27th.
62:51Is that, is that, would that generally be what you're thinking?
62:54Unless I'm adding a cornerstone to this roster. Those are, those are locked like a chastity bill.
63:00Hmm. All right. Any other, any other things for Cameron here?
63:03Shout out Cameron. My great last name. I'm sure I said that last time.
63:08I don't see any other 20, 26 picks. So it looks like he's just got the one, one and that's it.
63:14I was looking around for seconds and thirds or whatever.
63:18It doesn't look like it, but whatever. So. That's all you need, dog.
63:22Well, for sure. But I didn't know what kind of action he'd find himself in, you know, and you could also, you
63:29could always, you know, I'm definitely trading a second round pick next year to get into the middle of the earlier second
63:36round pick or second round to get strip scribbling.
63:38If you missed that earlier. Um, obviously if your draft is anytime soon, you might have a chance to get in there
63:45before it gets hot, but in a couple of weeks you won't be able to strip.
63:50It's going to be a back strip. It's going to be in the first round.
63:55Says he was offered CMC for a 27 first.
63:58I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not doing that right now.
64:01Yeah. I mean, I, I'm not, I'm not doing that before.
64:04I'm not doing that before football starts. I would, you know, I would wait.
64:09If he'll do it now, he'll do it when, when training camp's over with.
64:13If he'll do it now, he'll probably do a week six, you know, I mean, he moved one Oh eight for flowers.
64:20I love that move. Like those would be, that would be, um, you know, if you could, if, if you really like
64:27somebody in the middle of the first or late first, and they're still hanging around, that would be a time where maybe
64:34I would cash in one of those futures because I'm like, Hey, I like this guy and a part of this game is getting guys you like.
64:43Right. Um, and you know, the VAT, maybe the value doesn't quite line up with 27 and 26 is or whatever, but
64:50if you could find your way into there and, and, um, find, you know, say if you like Casey conception or you
64:57like Boston or you like Antonio Williams or strip, go get those guys.
65:01Right. Um, so, um, all right, let's move on from, from Cameron here.
65:05Um, let's go to this fella here. Oh, I want to go back to Cameron.
65:10I'm going to hit you with the refund for the people for the people.
65:14All right. We're going to go to big pennics energy here.
65:17Uh, 10 team super flex, double flex. My team is a strong contender, but I feel I need to make another move
65:24or two to have a chance at beating the defending champ, mighty Marvin Bauer of Rangers, who is a juggernaut.
65:31What trades would you recommend? I'm thinking trading D Henry or packaging up wide receiver and 27 first for an elite wide receiver.
65:38So he said, uh, what super flex, double flex.
65:41So he just means there's two super flex with two more flexes, two more flexes and three and it's three wide receiver and it's a 10 teamer.
65:49So no, it doesn't look like any premium PPR.
65:52So, um, let's see, let's see what, so should we look at the, the, uh, we got big pennics energy and Marvin and the power Rangers here.
66:01Let's see what he's up against here before we go any further.
66:05It's aggressive. Shuck Prescott, Kyler Murray, Jacoby, Gino, Aaron Rogers, B.
66:08John Cook, Chase Brown, Javante Spears, JSN, Justin Jefferson, Marv, AJ Brown, Ricky, um, and then Brock Bowers and Tucker Kraft.
66:15And that's a juggernaut. Have they had their adequately?
66:18Is there any 26 is anywhere? Is there 26?
66:20No, it looks like, it looks like the 26 is have already been accounted for.
66:25I don't see them. Is there any 26 players?
66:28I don't see, I don't see either one. Yeah.
66:31I don't either, which is kind of messing me up.
66:34Let's look at some of that. Let's look at a, let's look at a not good team and see what.
66:40Okay. Well, let's look at big pennics energy and see if he's got Allen in my homes.
66:46So right. He's got an advantage in the QB room.
66:49There's Carnell Tate on a team. So the rookies are out there.
66:53Okay. Yeah. I saw, I see Skylar Bell on this.
66:56Yeah. So we're good. Marion Hampton, Brees, Swift. So not quite on the level that, that Marvin Bauer.
67:02The depth keeps going. Jalen Moore, David Montgomery, Jonathan Brooks.
67:05He's got the depth. Sure. Amin, Ross, St. Brown, Tet, Devonta Smith, Jalen Waddle, Downs, Moore, Trey Harris, and then McBride over there.
67:12So that's at least positive that you can put up with an elite tight end play.
67:17Right. Yeah. And you got likely in Gadsden. So there's some, there's good depth there.
67:22So Josh Allen, he's, he's, he can compete with juggernaut.
67:25So it's, it's, you're, you're, you're just, you're, you know, we like Waddle and Devonta Smith a lot.
67:31Like, I think, I think, you know, you got to start three wide receivers here.
67:35Um, so I mean, his starting three are better than your starting three.
67:40And then there's two more flexes. Um, so he's, he's got you out flexed, but I mean, with that, maybe not though.
67:47I mean, out flexed, uh, Devonta Smith and Jalen Waddle, uh, you know, I guess who's your flight, your flexes, Devonta Smith and Waddle or your other flexes.
67:55Basically. You got Josh Downs and DJ more. So, yeah.
67:59So basically he's asking, um, thinking of trading for Derek Henry or packaging a wide receiver and a 27 first for an elite wide receiver.
68:06So this be a position where you'd be fine with moving off a 27 first right now and, you know, packaging up
68:13like, uh, you know, would you, would you, what, what, what would you want to do to try to acquire another elite
68:20receiver or make this team better here guys? It's so difficult.
68:24The math so difficult on, on a 10 teamer because we all look at Ted Aron McMillan and we're like, Oh yeah, that's where we talked.
68:32It's a borderline cornerstone cornerstone. And I mean, I feel like Jalen Waddle and Devonta Smith are going to be great pieces to try to help you win.
68:41But if we don't get ceiling outcomes from either one and they're just like 13 points a game, then you, you're kind
68:48of, you're kind of lagging a little bit in the, in the receiver room.
68:52But this is from a value perspective. This is great.
68:56So I don't want to, I don't necessarily want to move off of Ted Aron.
69:00Well, like they, he could grow into being an actual cornerstone and we've not seen anything that says that he won't, but
69:07it still requires a little bit of projection. Same thing with, I mean, Devonta Smith's a little bit older money winner, you know, money winner value loser.
69:16Same thing with Jalen Waddle. So it just, you're kind of, you're in the hall of very, very good right now for a 10 team contender.
69:24It's just that he's just, your, your, your opponent here has a little bit more, a little bit more oomph.
69:30Like he's going to grab that championship and hump it into submission with Brock Bowers and Tucker Craft.
69:36So, I mean, it's just, he's, he's just a little bit better than your team is right now.
69:42Like those, the JSNs, the Justin Jefferson. I mean, more, you got him, you got him there with more versus Devonta Smith.
69:49I'd rather have Devonta Smith if I'm trying to, trying to cash out, but then he's got AJ Brown and I'd rather have AJ Brown over Jalen Waddle.
69:58And that's the biggest difference is he's got the hammer hammer and you've got like a small, like a little, like a little nail file.
70:05But it is a three wide receiver league and he's got Josh Downs and DJ Moore.
70:11So when, as you go through the season, he's got more options at putting a three wide receiver to, you know, line up together, which doesn't matter.
70:19They're both going to make the playoffs. And it's just, you know, if you get an opposite sides of the playoff bracket,
70:26you only got to beat them in the championship and anything can happen.
70:30And you got Josh Allen and St. Brown and Trey McBride, like that, you know, like this other team really is a
70:37juggernaut, but you're not that far away. You just don't have, you don't have some of those top end names because he's
70:44got them all in a 10 league, you know, 10 team, they're kind of spread out, you know, you know, yeah.
70:51If I, if I had to put on odds on it to, to big coast point, I'd, I'd say it's probably 60, 60, 40 him.
70:59Yeah. Going through all these teams, like there's no like bad team, you know, the ones that are getting the monikers of
71:06rebuilding and middling are still fine teams, right? They just have like a deficiency somewhere that the other teams maybe don't.
71:12Um, but like it just, to me, this, this question is, is comes down to answering of like, who's willing to trade.
71:19And when I scroll down to the last player, the last team here, like this guy's got a decent amount of holes
71:26outside of, you know, the QB room's good, but I mean, his running back rooms, man, his wide receiver room is mad,
71:33but CD lamb sticks out like a sore thumb here.
71:36Right. So, you know, in that case, would you, do you want to like try to move somebody like a 10 and
71:43a 27 first and see how close it gets you to getting a CD lamb?
71:48I mean, I wouldn't send that offer. Right. You probably get that.
71:52I don't want to smash. You get that. I would be surprised if you didn't, if you're, if that's the worst team
71:59in the league, he should be taking that deal.
72:02I can't say for sure. And I don't know how he feels about his team.
72:06I don't know if he's aware, you know, some people aren't aware.
72:10Right. Right. Yes. Not everybody knows they're rebuilding. Not everybody.
72:13I'm not saying this guy's got even got a bad team even necessarily, but it is a 10 team and everybody's, you
72:20know, everybody, obviously everybody's got a little bit better players.
72:23So you're trying to get higher end players. I would look, I would start knocking on people's, I would maybe say I
72:30would package up like I would use an Aranda.
72:33You got Trey McBride and likely I would use the hype of Aranda Ganston and the new offensive coordinator coming over there.
72:40Um, I would use the depth of like, I would try to cash out on David Montgomery while you got a chance.
72:47Um, you know, you got Hampton, Breesall, Swift and the Mononga, the Mononga Swift combo is really, really nice.
72:53And I think Jalen Warren's going to be very RB2E this year.
72:57Um, I think we all saw Aaron Rodgers happy to throw it to the running back last year and that guy's gone to Tampa.
73:05Um, so I think Jalen Warren's probably going to catch a fair, a decent amount of balls to keep him very fantasy
73:12relevant while Rico Dowdle gets most of the touchdowns.
73:14Um, but you could, you could package up Jonathan Brooks right now before he gets hurt.
73:19If not, you know, maybe nothing happens. Right. You're saying Brooks, I'm looking up, but keeping up with the Joneses.
73:26Cause I was trying to find the team that had Derek Henry since maybe, I don't know, since he mentioned him, maybe
73:33they've already been chatting, but it's a middling team.
73:36He doesn't have a 27 first. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that you're giving them the 27 first.
73:42I'm just saying he's already missing that. So maybe he would like a 27 second, um, or whatever, but like he does, you mentioned Brooks.
73:50He has Chuba. Not that that maybe would do anything for him, but Derek, somebody you were interested in, and then he's
73:57got these two old receivers right here. So is this a case where you try to get an elite guy like CD lamb?
74:04Obviously that's kind of always going to be something, but like, is Mike Evans or Terry McLaurin, somebody that you try to
74:11go help you get over the hump with, with juggernaut.
74:14Cause if, if Terry McLaurin reverts at the commanders can revert and Jane Daniels could revert back to a year and a
74:21half ago, like Terry McLaurin is going to win you some money.
74:25Yeah. I, I would be, you hit this. Obviously it's really hard for me to clamp down on 10 team league.
74:32Cause I, you know, it, it changes the math on the rosters and the depth and starting lineup.
74:37It's, it is tough transition, but it looks like this dude's got extraordinary depth between the running backs and with being a three wide receiver league.
74:45I don't know if I want to, I want to keep the wide receiver depth that you have maybe using one of them in a trade to upgrade.
74:54Maybe you upgrade from Waddle or you upgrade from Josh downs.
74:58You upgrade from DJ more, blah, blah, blah. But like between Jonathan, drove Jonathan Brooks and David Montgomery and a Rondé gas.
75:05And like, you find somebody that feels like they need running backs.
75:09You found somebody that feels like they need a tight end.
75:12Like, I feel like you could make something happen with those guys and you didn't even touch your, uh, you know, touch your starting lineup.
75:20Yeah, no, that's kind of, you know, that's kind of what I, if you, if you threw Brooks and something else together
75:27for that guy down there who has the old, the bunch of old guys on a team that probably he needs to
75:34cash in on those old guys now, um, because he's not winning anything.
75:38Um, and, and they could really help his team out here to, to help them get over the hump for, for the
75:45depth of the third wide receiver, you know, and, or, I mean, I don't necessarily know that you need Derek Henry on
75:52this team, but it's certainly not going to hurt.
75:55Right. No, it ain't going to hurt. If Derek Henry said a swift, that's cool.
76:00You know, you could package up swift and Monunga and, and trade them down to that guy and try to get Derek
76:07Henry and the olds, you know what I mean?
76:09Yeah. You know, whatever it is. Keep an old trick and keep an old trick in mind.
76:15Like, you know, it is a 10 team or like if you're, if you end up using your first round pick, try
76:22to give it to a bad team if you could, and then try to get their second round pick in the train,
76:29you know, and nobody's saying you're going to have the, nobody's saying you're going to win the championship, but let's say you
76:36get to the playoffs and you get third place game, or hopefully you get in the championship.
76:41You trade away the one, nine, one, you know, the one, eight, the one, nine, and you get back the two, two
76:48or the two, three, potentially, if you get a bad team's second round pick and you, if that's, if you're giving away
76:55Gadsden or Jonathan Brooks and somebody, Dave Montgomery, if you probably not getting all those guys in the same trade, but when
77:02you're putting parts and pieces together to upgrade and you're using your first to do it, try to get that second round
77:09pick back from the bad team and, you know, give up a third or something to try to make those numbers work out for the guy.
77:17And then all of a sudden, maybe this time next year, you only traded back.
77:22You only moved four, four picks in the rookie draft.
77:25Yeah. You've got a good mix of things to try to help you navigate to get, you know, I think probably your
77:32best course of action is trying to get some of the older studs that are good to try to help you get
77:39over the hump for Bauer Rangers or trying to get your first involved in, and a bunch of depth and go get
77:46like a CD lamb or whoever other's team has like an elite player that might want to get rid of them.
77:53That's, that's, that's the, that's the dance you got to figure out.
77:56Right. You know, I'd be way I'd be, I'd want to pay much more and be in the CD lamb sweet stakes
78:03that for me and a 10 team league, and you already this good, and you already got that many good players like
78:10the, the old, the, um, you know, the Terry McLaurin trade in this for this guy and this team that doesn't, it's not making me super thrilled.
78:19Oh, I'm just, I think, I think Terry McLaurin could easily get you over the hump to beat this guy.
78:25If Terry McLaurin is back to where Terry McLaurin has been, I think Terry McLaurin can get you over the hump and
78:32then it doesn't cost you a whole lot. And you, once you've won now, all right, well now we can relax and you still have the same team.
78:41Really? You didn't really train anything that that's, I think that's a major leak to say Taylor, Terry McLaurin is the guy
78:48that gets him over the hump here. I disagree.
78:51Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. If he's healthy, I mean, if he's healthy and Jaden Daniels is healthy, you're saying you don't think
78:58that Terry's going to, Terry's going to do be a difference maker.
79:01I didn't say he's not helping. I don't think it's the one that gets you over the hump against the guy that has B.
79:09John and JSN and Justin Jefferson and Brock Bowers.
79:12And I mean, it doesn't have Josh Allen. You got it.
79:15You're winning. You're winning in the quarterbacks. Right. Yeah.
79:18But he's got in the quarterbacks, you're crushing the quarterbacks.
79:21And then you just, you kind of lagging a little bit, a little bit behind and everything else.
79:27I'm not saying just Terry's going to, but like, that's the, to me, that's a team where I could go figure out, can I get Mike Evans?
79:36Can I get Terry? Can I get Derek Henry?
79:39And I don't have to spend a whole lot of stuff.
79:42And dude, I, I think you're, I think you're sleeping on what Terry could potentially be this year.
79:48Like Terry, Terry, if Terry plays all the games and he's 15 points a game and then you're just hammering 15 points
79:55a game and you're flex at that point, you got to feel good about that.
79:59Oh, I would feel good. I don't know. I don't think Terry averaged 15 points a game this year.
80:05He, Terry McLaurin just a year ago was wide receiver seven.
80:09Like we're not, we're one year away from Terry McLaurin being 267 PPR points.
80:13You know, that's what, that's what I'm saying. Like that, him being out there every single week and giving you just, it's
80:20not going to be 18 points a game with 15.
80:23Yeah. Who's the target competition? Right. That's kind of what I'm saying.
80:27It's the, I think he's could be a cheap top 10 wide receiver was the way that I was looking at that.
80:34Him and Mike Evans, him, Mike Evans, Devante Adams, all the, all the plus 30 guys that can still, that can still
80:41go out there and give you, give you meaningful fantasy points are the guys that you need to be, that you need
80:48to be targeting because it's not going to cost you.
80:51Yeah. McLaurin might cost you a first, but Evans isn't going to cost you a first Devante Adams isn't going to cost you a first.
80:59Yeah. I mean, and Derek Henry, you know, you get to figure out a way, but like, I'm with you.
81:06Like I started out with saying, Hey, let's go get CD lamb off of this guy's team.
81:11If that's my first stop, can I go figure out how to get an elite?
81:16But I don't know how many of those guys are going to want to, you know, is this guy want to give up Nico Collins?
81:24I don't know if he does. Um, so it just seemed like that was a situation where a, that that's a doable
81:31thing that could happen for, for me in that situation.
81:34So anyhow, um, you move on to the next one.
81:37Yep. Yeah. Um, I can't really, really a broad question.
81:40Um, we can get some more pointed questions here, boys.
81:43Do I on the fantasy football? Um, and, and hit it, get, go get the roster review.
81:49And then, you know, we could do the roster review.
81:52Um, all right. What would you do with this team?
81:55It could go either way. Probably wait till week five ish to sell or buy players and picks.
82:01Um, did he say which team was his? Oh, Mary and Ben Hampton.
82:05Oh, Mary and Ben Hampton. Oh, man. You know, he's got two, two 27 first.
82:09Okay. He's got Drake may. He's got two. He's got a Maron Hampton, Travion, ETN Coleman, Harvey Gainwell, the Quinn Allen.
82:16It's three wide receiver league. Okay. He's got CD.
82:19He's got TET. He's got DK. He's got Coker.
82:22Okay. Um, he's got a Rondae Gatson and Jake Ferguson.
82:25Like you said, no, no 20, no 26. Have they done the 26 yet?
82:29Yeah. I see Tanner Cozy all right there. Okay.
82:32Um, all right. Well, I mean, why? So where, where, where generally, I mean, as I'm perusing the rest of the league
82:39thoughts on, on this guy's team here. I like what's happening, but we're, we're, we're, we're a ways off from, from winning money.
82:46Just not far, but just a little ways off.
82:49I'll go ahead. We go. Uh, like you said, just, you know, clicking around and checking to some other, when three wide
82:56receiver league and DK Metcalf's your third and you've been Jacob Jalen Coker's your fourth, and then you're kind of looking around for another starter.
83:04So that's, that's your, that's your biggest weakness in my eyes.
83:08Right. Wait a second. You can be, uh, no premium.
83:11You're going to be trying, you're probably going to, you know, pull your hair out every week deciding between Gadsden and Ferguson in your lineup.
83:19So maybe you want to trade them both away and get a tight end that you want to have in your lineup every week.
83:26Um, Ferguson has caught a ton of balls in the last couple of years and Gadsden has looked ridiculously good in spurts.
83:33Um, there is a lot being said about the game splits when Pickens and CD lamb were both healthy at the same time.
83:41Jake Ferguson was crushing early in the season when CD lamb got hurt and Pickens had not been in the lineup playing
83:48with Dak very long, but it kind of tailed off towards the end.
83:52Uh, just be Jake Ferguson is a safe tight end.
83:55But when you're trying to look for the upper, upper end stuff that Ronnie Gadsden could give it to you.
84:01There's just so many options potentially for the chargers.
84:04Um, that's, that's the first thing that I think about is trying to get another startable wide receiver that I feel good
84:11about and then trying to work on my tight end.
84:14You got Drake may and, uh, that is, yes, you know, for this year, Gino for this year.
84:20Fair enough. Maybe two for a while for a little bit running backs look really solid compared to what it could be.
84:27I mean, Hampton and Travion, Travis, Travis, Travis ET.
84:30Apparently it's a Chan now. That's what we just, somebody put it in the comments.
84:34They thought I was joking, but that I was pretending I didn't know his last name was a Chan.
84:40Uh, like I thought that was a joke. I, a Chan is, we already got an a Chan and it doesn't look anything like this spelling.
84:49So I know I'm South Carolina public educated. I'm stretching to just, I will tell, I will call you anything you want, Travis.
84:56But I, it's tough to get a Chan out of that.
84:59Uh, you know, you, you get your chef ski out of some shit.
85:04That's got a K and S's and all kinds of shit.
85:07So let's just roll. I got his coach K.
85:10I can't even say. I got, I got Duke 91, 92 back-to-back champ.
85:14Oh, we lost, we lost big go. Uh, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got two plus.
85:20What's going on? No, there's no A or C or H or all that's happening.
85:25So, um, Mario, I'm Ben Hampton here. I'm sorry.
85:28Uh, I like the squad. I think middling is appropriately, you know, of course, every moniker that is made on the website
85:35is not going to reflect everybody's team and they're going to feel a certain type of way about it.
85:41And in this case, I do feel like that's probably right on time, uh, with kind of where you're at here.
85:47I think, I think you've got good parts and pieces.
85:51Um, but generally, you know, there are, there are some better teams for the most part.
85:56Um, to me, absolutely wild that Jonah Coleman has surpassed RJ Harvey in dynasty value, according to our, our site here.
86:02Right. Right. Oh, it goes back. Nope. Not quite.
86:05Camera's not on. Maybe his camera died. I don't know what happened.
86:09Um, but you're, you're deficient in the QB room.
86:12You're like, you can, if you had a great roster, you could play scrub second QB, but you don't have the great
86:19roster, which you can be fine this year with the guys that you have.
86:23So, you know, that's already a problem. Big co is already stating about the, the QB or the tight ends a little bit.
86:31And now it's not premium. So it's not the end of the world.
86:35Um, but you know, like the guy who has Tucker craft down here, he's got, you know, he's got some killers at
86:42the quarterback position and then he's got Stafford back.
86:44He's got JT and Jacobs and Henry, like he's ready to go.
86:48He's got Jefferson. If he bounces back now, receiver room, a little light, but craft there.
86:53So, you know, solid team. Um, Mark Andrews, what'd you think?
86:57Chef Brock Bowers guys got a pretty solid team, you know, a little light.
87:01Uh, we gotta let, we gotta, we gotta be a little patient.
87:05We could get a little bump. We could get a little bump here with Kasha, Kasha on booty.
87:11He might most likely getting traded. Yeah. He's not going to be, I'd be shocked if he's on the Patriots opening day roster.
87:18Yeah. I mean, he's too good to not have a role somewhere.
87:22Like, you know, he, he's, he's just been solid.
87:25And they, you know, they brought in dubs and, and, you know, Kyle Williams, I think can assume a sort of more
87:32bootay role with like, you know, with kind of how they've been using, but I think bootays could blossom into an awesome receiver.
87:39Well, I mean, you think about it going into the 2023 season, he was the, he was the number one receiver going into that season.
87:47A lot of people had him as the number one, the number one.
87:51As far as the rookies. Yeah. As far as the rookies.
87:54Like the incoming 2023 class. It was, it was, he was in that same conversation with who was all in that class.
88:01JSN and all that was, that was a real thing.
88:05So we're talking about a guy who's shown that he has real talent and then he's worked his way up from being
88:11a day three pick to meaningful snaps and performing whenever the situation also having a very negative stigma around him, which is
88:18kind of where I landed him there. And he's just, that's kind of all went away.
88:23So that's all really good signal right there. You know?
88:27So I, I like that. Um, but you know, to me, this is probably, Hey, I'm going to probably trade Travis ETN.
88:34If Tua can do anything or if Gino can get me anything, I'm going to trade those guys.
88:39I'm going to, I'm going to just, I'm a role that you got two picks in 27 already.
88:45I'm going to roll this thing down the line here and just try to take a couple of points out of my lineup.
88:52Maybe I sell DK. I don't think I want to sell CD right now.
88:57Um, and just to me, I'm not, I'm not going anywhere in the, in the buying category.
89:02Unless it's like a young rising star. If we're doing the buckets thing or something along those lines, right?
89:08Yes. Yeah. I get, I get, I unload, I, I try to unload two after his first meaningful game or whenever he
89:15gets, he gets unloaded as a starter. I hold on to Gino.
89:19I hold on to Gino until he has a good game.
89:22And then I go take a second or a third or whatever.
89:26If I'm committing, let's commit to the direction and not accidentally put points in our lineup that cost us a spot or whatever the case may be.
89:35But yeah, those guys, Tua doesn't fit. Gino doesn't fit.
89:38Jameis is probably not going to, I mean, he's probably not going to play unless something happens to Jackson Dart.
89:44Yeah. I mean, you got, you got to gain well down here.
89:48Yeah. Gain well. Here's the thing. Gain well to a Gino, Travis.
89:52Even Big Joe mentioned Ferguson. Like he's not old by any means, but if he gets rolling and somebody needs a tight
89:59end, you could, you could facilitate that. Yeah. You can, you can, again, that's another guy I would, I would be more,
90:06I'd be more apt to move Jake Ferguson than I would guess.
90:09And just because of the age difference. And just, you know, I think, I don't think Ferguson's going to, Ferguson's going to
90:16be fine in your lineup, but I don't think the value and what he can be can, can blossom any further.
90:23Um, so yeah, I, you know, I think this is a great, like Crispy just said, this team's got an amazing core.
90:30It does have a very good core. We're just, we're low at wide receiver or QB two.
90:35Well, it's like I said, if, if you had a great team all around to overcome this, then I'd be like, all right, well F it.
90:44We can, we can roll with the scrub as your two.
90:47I've, I've won many championships with the scrub too, that just plays and doesn't blow it.
90:52But, uh, big co's back joining us. Give us your thoughts here before we move on to our next question.
90:59And actually I got to get a prize picks reading after this.
91:02So now I could hear you guys. I just don't know what happened to my camera there.
91:08I think the coach K and the H and chat had me laughing and I hit something.
91:13I don't know what happened, but it, uh, it disappeared over here.
91:17Um, but yeah, I, I, Jake Ferguson catches, you know, dump downs from his boy.
91:22Dak loves Jake Ferguson. I've heard a couple of people on podcasts be like, I don't know why Jake Ferguson keeps catching the balls.
91:29That's what happens when the quarterback likes you. The boys are boys and Ferguson gets his catches.
91:35Um, you know, but you're not gonna, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago with the package of the Cowboys in the red zone.
91:43Like Ferguson is Dak's boy, but like CD lamb and pickings just, I mean, dominating in the red zone for against the defense.
91:50Right. So I don't think you can count on Jake Ferguson to get a whole lot of touchdowns.
91:56If one of those wide receivers don't get nicked up.
91:59Um, but yeah, I, I, I do, I do agree wholly with, I don't think you're getting, it'd be interesting to see two is hot.
92:07If two has a hot start and you could trade him, get something for him.
92:12I don't have a problem with that. Um, I, I don't see that really happening, but it could.
92:17Um, yeah, you could definitely get a second round pick for Gino Smith when he starts and he looks like he, if
92:24he looked like he looked two years ago, you know, there's no reason you can't get a second round pick for Gino
92:31and just take it out a little bit around the, you know, core of that team and try to get a better
92:38lot of pick to get a letter, better set of draft picks.
92:42Like Jeff said. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm right there with all of that.
92:46There's just a cut. Like you look around and there's like a couple of teams that are like, eh, you're probably better than they are.
92:54And if you made a move or two, you can be better than them.
92:58But then you get down to the couple of the contenders.
93:02And I just, I don't think you're overcoming those guys right now.
93:06And I think you should be wise to just hang out for a second, be patient and just try to gather a
93:13little bit more things to make a couple more calculated moves to get some, some younger, good talent.
93:18We kind of, we made fun of him about his question, but like he said, I'll probably wait until week five ish
93:25to sell or buy players or picks. And like, that's literally made mostly half the battle of what we tell people anyway.
93:32Right. So like you're halfway there just being like, I'm going to let it simmer for just a minute and figure out what's going on.
93:40You give everybody else a chance in the league to figure out if they think they're winning or losing.
93:46Now you figure out who's bought, who should be buyer and seller.
93:50They don't necessarily always line up like that, but it gives you a chance to map.
93:55Now the person that you sold to a two might give you a little bit more.
94:00Now the person that you're selling Gino to might actually want to give you something, you know, et cetera.
94:06Right. I like it. All right. Doug, Dougie says, just wait for the first good starting back.
94:12Good starting quarterback to get hurt and then pounce with both two and Gino as replacements.
94:17All right, let's give them. We got two more questions on here and then we'll, maybe we'll talk a little bit more
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98:36Yeah. Later guys. Shout out to James. Let's, let's get in here.
98:40Let's get a couple more. We'll ask two questions in for people's pleasure here.
98:45Uh, hello, my league. Hello. Uh, my league is in its second season.
98:49I was out on the first, uh, yeah, I was out in the first round of the playoffs.
98:54So basically I sat T law still did not like my team trades went crazy in the off season.
99:00I completely transferred my team. I was wondering if I should make any moves or just go into the season as is
99:07thinking of adding a running back, but I don't want to lose too much.
99:12This is a 12 man, one quarterback tight end premium.
99:15My previous team was quarterback. Appreciate you guys. Um, let's check out the power rankings.
99:20I'm assuming since you listed all those guys again, you've made some moves.
99:24So let's, let's check it out just a little bit, just a little, just what was he's weapon X.
99:30Yeah. All right. Let's expand it. Let's double check here.
99:33We're one quarterback PPR, but he said it's tight end premium is start three wide receivers, uh, two flex.
99:39So he's got Lamar, as he mentioned, start one quarterback while I'm fine with punting quarterback in that situation.
99:45For the most part, Lamar is a good one to have, uh, gente and Omari on hand.
99:50And then he's got tootin menungi Brooks, uh, and then Jefferson, Nico Rome, AJ Brown and Christian Watson.
99:56Hachi machi, uh, Jalen Coker and Darnell Mooney. Shout out to them, to Darnell Mooney.
100:01And then fanning. He does not have craft anymore.
100:04It does not appear. Um, so you like towers and Mark Andrews.
100:08So I made a lot of moves. Why do you hate the steep?
100:12Cause you try to tell your craft. What do you, what do you even know?
100:16What do you even know? What are you even doing over there?
100:20All right. So what was the overarching question here?
100:23Second season was a layoffs. Um, wonder if we should make any moves to just go into the season.
100:29Um, she've, you know, he's, he's, you know, position group where, you know, we're, he's one in tight end.
100:35He's one in RBs, three in quarterback, eight in wide receiver.
100:39Right. Um, so that those are just arbitrary numbers that the site puts together here.
100:43I'll based off of, you know, a lot of things, but then it doesn't necessarily mean.
100:48They have, they have meaning. We're not going to explain exactly what it all means right now.
100:54Right. I mean, it has meaning, but you can't, don't get super caught up in it.
100:59It's, it's just a guide, you know, all of these things on these websites, nothing should be taken as the gospel.
101:05It should be taken as a guide and, uh, to just kind of put in perspective of, of what is, is kind of being, uh, processed.
101:14So, um, yeah, I mean, I'm like, I gotta scroll through some teams here, but generally, is there, is there anything that
101:21you think that like, there's no real deficiency here that you have to go in and fill it in a hole.
101:27And that, that's a good place to be because at that point for me, what I'm then doing is saying, all right, well, Hey, yeah.
101:35Could I use maybe a little bit more depth that I could, that I would really want to count on going into
101:42the season as my running, if in my running back room.
101:46Yes. Wide receiver room. I'm, I'm fine with, um, you could, you could probably use one more depth piece, mostly just cause
101:53you're starting three wide receivers and the other two in your flex.
101:56So, but you do have tootin menungi and Brooks to kind of lean on if you, if you maybe needed it.
102:03And, you know, unfortunately you don't have craft anymore, but, uh, he could have been one of your flexes.
102:09Oh, so she have, what are your, what's your, what's your thoughts here?
102:13Let's go get some, let's go get some money, man.
102:16Like I, I really liked this wide receiver core.
102:19I, you've got, you've got enough. Well, we're a little thin and tight.
102:23I just don't, what did he get for Tucker?
102:26Anyway, I'm not going to do that right now.
102:29I'm going to stay focused. I'm just, I'm flabbergasted because.
102:32I don't really think legitimately, I don't think that there's an, there's a lot that you need to do.
102:38You're, your, your wide receiver room is really strong.
102:41We're just waiting quite literally just waiting on, waiting on Roma Dunze to return back to form and Justin Jefferson.
102:47And I feel like you, you have the strongest team.
102:51I mean, obviously fuck Dallas here is, is listed as a contender, but you got him at quarterback.
102:56He's got the, he's got the depth at running back on you.
103:00You crush him at receiver and he's got Trey McBride and you've got Harold fans.
103:05So if we're looking at that as your, your primary competition, there's other couple of teams here.
103:10I don't feel what was his, what was his need?
103:13What does he need us to answer? Well, he was basically just asking, is there any moves he should make and where,
103:20what he, you know, what, what exactly should he do?
103:23And so that's kind of where I was a depth, maybe depth at running back.
103:28We need a little, maybe you could have a tight end.
103:32Yeah. Yeah. You, you needed, you never want to be this thin at tight end, in my opinion, in a tight end premium league.
103:39Yeah. I would, I would just agree. Eli Stowers is, is a nice, it's a nice bet.
103:45And we, we like Eli Stowers. I think Eli Stowers is going to be great, but where you are right now, it
103:52doesn't make the most sense to, to be making bets like that.
103:55And you're trying to make money and you're in a place to where this team should, should win you some money or
104:02at least get you to the third place game.
104:05So I'd, I'd really, I'd strongly consider adding running back depth, strongly consider adding running back depth and try to get a cheap tight end.
104:13Try to go get dulce for off of somebody.
104:16Right now I'm trying to, I'm searching the database for Tucker craft and Gunner Helm train, since it does look like maybe
104:23in the trade, he said, he, he did send Gunner Helm and Tucker craft.
104:27Um, what? I'm trying to find out. It can't be that many trades involving both of those guys.
104:33I know. I don't know. News flash. It was me.
104:36He traded them to. Um, yeah. I mean, so do you go get an older running back here to, if you're, if
104:43you're kind of like, is there, um, or, or, you know, like you said, another tight end would be, would be quite, quite fun here.
104:51So this, this guy's team's pretty stinky and he's got Kyle pits and obviously you just traded away a tight end.
104:58So maybe that's not where your head's at. Um, and he's, his only, his only good player is Bijan.
105:04And he's got my homes and hurts. Um, and not a lot of capital.
105:08It is single quarterback. Right. Um, I don't know what you could possibly trade Delco's finest for Bijan here.
105:14Um, but I'd be interested. Um, let's get weird.
105:17You know, anyhow. Um, I think it's, I think to me, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's another person you could
105:24count on in the running back room. That's, that would be my target.
105:28And who would that exactly be for somebody like this chef?
105:32Like, is it, is it a Javante Williams? Is it, is it somebody like that?
105:36Who's kind of like, you know, if we're doing buckets kind of thing, like money maker value loser, or is it an, uh, yeah.
105:44Is it an OG or are you trying to find like an ascending star and, and, and overpay a little bit?
105:51Cause you do have to, you got gente and Hampton and you have a 27 first, uh, you have two 28 first or two.
105:58You got speculation on tootin that could, that could burn, that could blow up.
106:03And then my nun guy is going to be a top 30 guy in, in totality, but I don't know how much
106:10he's going to help you on a weekend week out basis.
106:13I'm torn. I think, you know, let's look at, let's look at how much, how much more does it take to go from tootin to scatabo?
106:21Right. We got a rebuilder here, but he does that.
106:24Like he's got a good, the Drizzy Drake's got Allen, Jeremiah love Teddero McMillan and Brock Bauer.
106:30So all across his watchtower there, he's going, he's got some pretty solid pieces.
106:34He just needs to build it out a little bit.
106:37Um, but you know, that, that could take a year or two for him to figure that out.
106:43And he's only, it's not like he's super rich in picks.
106:47He's got two 27s. Like, so scatabo would be somebody who would be interested.
106:51Like I'm with you. Like I, I don't, I like tootin and tootin could be, but like, I would probably try to
106:58use the tootin express here to try to go find my running back that I think is.
107:03And I know we just said like, potentially like an up and comer, which tootin could certainly be that.
107:09And this could, you know, be like, she likes to say on fantasy receipts.
107:14Um, but. I mean, I, I genuinely, but, but I mean, I genuinely feel that way though.
107:19Like, I mean, I, I think, I don't know.
107:22Like Josh Jacobs too scary for you right now.
107:25No, that's, that's who I was. I was trying to get there because it could, he have some sort of competition.
107:32If Marshawn Lloyd, if Marshawn Lloyd's body, is it made out of silly putty?
107:36Could we have a little bit of regression from Josh Jacobs, just having a complete stranglehold and like 90% of the inside
107:43the five carries and dominating the backfield share overall?
107:46Yes. That could happen at the same time. He's been dominant and scored 28 touchdowns in the last two years or something crazy like that.
107:54So, uh, Josh Jacobs is one of the contender buys that that's, that's a guy that shouldn't have, that should have a stranglehold.
108:01Like you should have a firm grip on him if you're a contender or be charging a King's ransom.
108:07And because of the legal situation, because he didn't finish the season strong, people have written him off as, oh, he's washed or, oh, he's not that good.
108:16Or I don't want any parts of him. And I think that's one of the, one of the biggest advantages that you can create.
108:23I saw Crispy, you're, you're highlighting Chigga Concord there.
108:26I like that a lot. Also, I'm, I'm naturally, I'm obliged to, I have to mention, I absolutely have to mention the
108:33fact that, you know, Gunner Helm, like, well, I mean, you sent Gunner Helm away and Greg and Greg Golsage.
108:40Got to mention. So going back and, and shout out, I think, uh, Steve-O here, he's got Steve-O 484, which, and then
108:47there's a, but there's a Delco guy. There's a, a John's guy.
108:50So I'm going to assume this guy is a, is a, uh, you know, somewhere in the, in the Southeast of Pennsylvania.
108:57Yeah. The Rust Belt. Well, that's not the Rust Belt.
109:00Not the Rust Belt. My bad. No, but shout out to, if this is anybody near the Lehigh Valley, we've, we've talked
109:07about it before, but that's, that's, that's the hometown.
109:10I spent my first 18 years in Eastern Pennsylvania.
109:13So shout out to, to the boys in, in the Delco area there, but I'm in Charleston, South Carolina now.
109:19Um, but going back to this real quick, um, Cooper to John's, like we mentioned Josh Jacobs.
109:25Like he matches up well with a lot of things you have.
109:29He's got Mike Washington. You have gente. He's got Josh Jacobs.
109:32That could be a fun target. Dallas Goddard. This is this guy.
109:36Did this guy have stowers or was that the last guy?
109:39Yeah, he has. He has stowers and Harold Fannin.
109:42If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And Mark Andrews and Mark Andrews.
109:46We did overlook Andrews there. No, I said, I said, it's okay.
109:49Okay. I did. I did. I need to, I said, we needed a little, I would like to have a little bit
109:56more depth because if Andrews is cooked and you're just depending on Harold Fannin, it's okay.
110:02But you don't want to be running butt naked out there in tight end premium with just one tight end.
110:08That's not the way that we like to reconstruct rosters.
110:11I feel like I feel can comfortably speak for you and Big Co and everybody associated with us here at the FFD.
110:18Correct. Yeah. When we say that. But I feel like this is a nice match because you have Washington in there.
110:25You have Jacobs. I mean, Dallas Goddard was stowers for like a year.
110:29Like there's a lot of target share vacated. And I think, you know, obviously some of it's going to move right over
110:36to, to, uh, I want to say to Sean Jackson, but that'd be the Jeremy Macklin era.
110:41Um, what am I, why am I drawing a blank on, on the slim Reaper?
110:46Uh, Devonta Smith, Devonta Smith. Obviously some of that's going to move over there.
110:50They drafted lemon. We're expecting things out of him and get some wicks love out there in camp.
110:56Uh, but, but yeah, I think this guy matches up with you.
111:00Well, and like, do you want to give up somebody like tooting for like a bunch of guys like that?
111:06I don't know, but I don't, I actually don't mind it.
111:10If like, what else can I get with tooting for like, I think a lot of people right now would probably gladly
111:17trade tooting for Josh Jacobs, you know, straight up.
111:19Yeah. Easy. Easy. If I could do that, I'm doing it all day and twice on Sunday because, you know, and, and
111:26maybe, and this guy's just a prime candidate to get somebody like tooting.
111:30Cause he's, he's young and ascending. He's got Jamar chase and Garrett Wilson, but like everything else is young.
111:36Josh Jacobs doesn't fit the build. And some of these older tight ends, like, you know, TJ Hockinson and Goddard could be really loose gripped.
111:44Um, and you've got Mike Washington and that's, that's your, your guys backup, which general he's got gente.
111:50Oh, Oh, another cheap, another cheap, uh, cheap tight end that we haven't really, we've discussed a little bit in passing in the show.
111:58So path fire me with Aaron Rogers. Interesting. I've, I've rode that train a little bit, but I agree.
112:04I agree. I don't mind it. It's just, and, and, and I want to paint a picture of Aaron Rogers with Robert Tanyan in the 11 touchdown season.
112:13That's where we're, that's where I think that that could go.
112:16I don't think it's going to be a ton of volume.
112:19He might catch 60 balls. He might catch 50.
112:22He's going to throw double digit touchdowns. Cause Aaron Rogers, that's just one thing that he does.
112:28He'll hone in on one guy and just throw a piss missile to him in the red zone all the time.
112:34Hmm. Yeah. I like, I like the moot drop there.
112:38All right, let's move on here. Uh, we're going to move on to our last one here.
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113:42All right. Hey, is this, this, we can cut a promo with this guy.
113:47Um, I'm aiming to go back to back to back this year, back, back, back, back, back, back, back.
113:53Uh, I'm thinking I could afford to move shuck for a wide receiver.
113:57I've tried for flowers, AJ Brown and Buka and Puka without any luck.
114:01Given I have shuck and Darnold as my QB threes.
114:04Do you think it's the right move to try to capitalize on the current hype around him?
114:10Who would be trade targets or who would be trade targets you would recommend?
114:14And I, how do I improve my wide receiver room without giving up 27 capital?
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114:54Master chief. He's got Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow. He mentioned shuck and Darnold.
114:58Then he's got Mill Road behind Darnold. So you got a nice double package there.
115:03Um, package, uh, Gibbs, B. John Tootin. Um, Sharbs, Rico, Algier, Pickens, T.
115:07McLaurin, Pittman, Coker, Godwin, uh, Kinkade, Kittle, Strange, Helm, uh, 227 first.
115:11Arroyo. Love that. Um, so do you think he should give up shuck potentially to capitalize on there?
115:16And then, you know, how does he improve his wide receiver room without giving up some 27 value?
115:22So it's three wide receivers, start three wide receivers and three flexes.
115:26So. Uh, then it's full PPR type premium. Correct.
115:29So he wants to boost up this, this wide receiver room.
115:32How does he get that done? And Gibbs and B.
115:35John are just, just absolutely holding it down for you right now.
115:39Yeah. Those, those are. That's Lee. That's, that's, uh, he's basically looking to use, he's got some depth at quarterback.
115:45That's a, he could expend one of them. Um, what could he potentially like, that's going to be your best route.
115:52Cause you don't necessarily need a quarterback back. And he, what were the, what were the guys at Buka flowers, Puka, AJ Brown without any luck.
116:00And so I don't know what those deals were, but he had, he's already gone for those.
116:06I'm assuming straight up for shot or right. Right.
116:09Which is crazy. That's a, that'd be real tough for me to turn down.
116:13If I, depending on my situation, if I was, if I was sitting there with AJ Brown and somebody brought me, brought
116:20me Tyler Shuck, I'd have to be very, very strong at quarterback to just, just reject that.
116:25Right. Um, all right. I'm going to pull up the, uh, crowdsource rankings.
116:29Yeah. I'm looking through, I'm looking through things right now.
116:33So he wants to, so I'm assuming he wants to add a money winner, value loser, or a cornerstone or receiver.
116:39Let's go look at Shuck here. All right. We've coming in at 64.
116:43We can shoot over to, well, we'll keep it here.
116:47Um, he's coming in at 64. So some play, did he, he meant, did he mention Rome in his, as, as one
116:54he's trying to want somebody he tried to get.
116:56So, you know, Roma duns a for me, I love Roma duns a, I think, I think he could be, and he's right.
117:04He's kind of right there on par. Um, AJ Brown is, is kind of down here.
117:09How do you feel about like Rashi rice? Is that too risky?
117:13No risk it. No biscuit. I feel, I feel great about that.
117:16It's, it's just that, you know, I think he might be able to should get some on top.
117:22I think maybe you should, you should 1000% get something on top.
117:26Pause. Also, also you, you want to, if you're going to make that, if you're going to make that bet, you need to, you need to insulate yourself.
117:35You need to insulate yourself with a pick. If not some, even if it's a future and you have to like swap
117:42picks in a different year, you just want to give yourself another at bat to try.
117:47If this goes really poorly and Rashi rice just crashes and burns, you want to give yourself another at bat to try to get that right.
117:55Because you're, you're, it's not going to hurt you lineup wise per se, but just losing a trade that can, that can
118:02soften the blow a lot of times. And if you, if you get that right, if you're out here listening to us
118:09during the rookie, you know, rookie draft season, male pattern, rookie horniness, it will help you get right.
118:15Yeah. I mean, look, if you're saying you won back to back to back to back, like, you know, you're, you're already well positive in the money.
118:23Right. And I agree with Doug here saying, you know, I'm not sure if I'm moving shuck straight up for a wide
118:30receiver, got to be a good one. If I'm not getting a QB in return.
118:35Absolutely. So, you know, some of those deals that you were putting out there that you haven't been at, you know, you
118:42shot for egg Bucca, which was, you know, maybe a little high, but that's where I, the range that I would want
118:49to keep shooting shots in for the most part.
118:52And now I went way down there and said, rice, I said, Rome.
118:56But, you know, egg Bucca has been flying up the crowdsource.
118:59Now, as I say that he's dropped down, but he's at 29 right now.
119:04So like, you know, could I get, you know, that, that, that'd be a kind of the range where I started in,
119:11like, can I get a Carnell take? Can I fit you?
119:14I think he has pickings, right? Yeah. Yes. He has pickings T Higgins and somebody else.
119:19Right. And so you tried to get flowers. You've moved on down the list.
119:24But I generally agree with Doug, but it is, it is his one, it is his way to upgrade.
119:30So like Rashi rice is probably a little risky there and it sucks if it doesn't hit and shucks awesome.
119:36And then that's, so that's not necessarily something that I'm like coming highly recommended.
119:40Really? That just is like, Hey, I've won three championships back to back to back.
119:45If you want to try to keep this fun rolling, like he's, he's somebody who comes out.
119:50And if, if he's right, he's going to be a wide, like you can not, you can, all I see online is
119:57how much Rashi rice stinks and not any good.
120:00And I'm just like, yeah, but you're not rooted in any sort of, he just, and if he leaves the chiefs, he's,
120:07he's not going to be as good. Maybe so, but generally, like if he plays, he scores five receiver one points.
120:14Look, man, there are people out here who are, who are actively, actively sharing Charlie colors, college stats as proof that he's a capable receiver in the NFL.
120:23Oh, he was awesome at Iowa state. And you don't even, but here's the thing about Rashi rice.
120:28If you watched him in college, you know, that the skillset and what he's doing for the chiefs is completely different than
120:35the way he was used in college. So if we're going to, if we're going to use a Charlie color math, then
120:42you can argue that there's a skillset that the chiefs have completely shelved in favor of what they needed for their offense.
120:49And Rashi rice can do everything when the chiefs drafted him.
120:53It was not based on the fact that he was an awesome yak guy.
120:57And after the catch guy, it was because he was a, he was a contested catch boundary receive boundary receiver that could do all the stuff.
121:05So if we're going to talk about Charlie color being awesome at Iowa state, then we, I'm going to fucking talk about
121:12Rashi rice being graded at SMU as an outside X receiver, just doing big boy stuff.
121:17Right. Well, so, okay. So in this, you know, if, if we, if we eliminate the, the, if, when, if we go
121:24back, I was just seeing where Rashi rice was or other players like that, but he's on a middling team, which you
121:31know, it isn't a bad team and he's got two good tight ends.
121:35He's got Christian McCaffrey and Brisa. He probably doesn't want to make any moves right now.
121:41So, you know, that's probably a moot sort of point.
121:44But, you know, it's, you got to find somebody to tango with, to be able to trade here.
121:49Um, you know, this, this guy's team's quarterback deficient with the, you know, daily 20, uh, I, you could, um, he's got
121:56Garrett Wilson and AJ Brown, you know, that's an opportunity right there to me.
122:01Like you're not, you're not doing shit with JJ McCarthy and Aaron Rogers as your quarterback right now.
122:06It doesn't matter what your team is. Um, you, you turn, you throw Tyler shuck his way.
122:12Now he might be feeling some type of way, uh, where you could go potentially figure out, you know, what, and he,
122:19did he said he tried for AJ Brown already?
122:22And this guy said, no. Um, but just throwing some other things out there, um, trying to find some partners.
122:28What do you think about? Let the medicine take hold.
122:31If this team sucks real bad, AJ, AJ Brown's going to start burning a hole in his pocket.
122:37Right. Uh, what do you think about? Um, we just talked about tooting on another team.
122:42Um, is there, would there be like the, the problem is if he moves off of tooting, you know, that he's kind of counting on tooting, right?
122:50I mean, I guess Pittman could slide in and be your, your, you got, it's a pretty deep starting lineup.
122:57Um, yeah, that's, I think, I think Helden can, can maybe, I think we like Helden a lot.
123:02He could potentially come in here. I think Godwin, uh, some, some, some fun depth there.
123:08Um, any other general thoughts on this squad or, or trades before we wrap this one up?
123:13If, if you are someone who subscribes to DJ more, having a bounce back with Josh Allen, that's another name that I
123:20want to throw out there with, with Conkers BFD.
123:23We don't have to get too crazy there and assume what those initials stand for, but DJ more, this guy's got Lamar Jackson's got Shadour Sanders.
123:31He's got some old guys mixed with, well, really just one young guy and Travion Henderson.
123:36But if you believe in DJ more and in a resurgence in Buffalo, that's another guy that could probably help you.
123:43That's not going to be, not be expensive. Right.
123:46Yeah. And he, and you know, that's not somebody that I want to trade Shuck for necessarily.
123:51No, but I mean, look, right. I want to keep those quarterbacks because if I have those quarterbacks, that means nobody else can have them.
123:59Right. And if I give one of them up, I want to get a premium.
124:04Right. It goes back to what Doug was saying in the comments there.
124:08It's like, it can't just be shop and Shuck willy nilly.
124:11It's you have to find the right partner to dance with, uh, that it's going to give you the proper value on
124:18them that, you know, doesn't have it. So I'm, I'm with you there.
124:22Um, I just, I, like you said, I think, I think you gotta, I'm trying to find that, you know, here's Roma
124:29dunes a, but this, you know, would you, would you trade, um, would you trade Shuck for Rome?
124:35I wouldn't know. Okay. Just there's the reason being we know, we know that Tyler Shuck is, is, is in an environment that favors him.
124:43We've seen Rome thrive in his environment, but weekend week out.
124:46I think this year, it's a much better bet that you're going to be happy with Shuck on more Sundays than you would with Rome.
124:54And so if I'm trading for Rome and I end up on the short end of the stick, now this is a
125:01little bit different because it's what two flexes and three receivers, three flexes and three receivers.
125:06So this is probably start 12, start 11. Just, I mean, I could, I could look up myself.
125:12Oh, one of my ear buds went out. So that's why it sounds weird.
125:16I was trying to figure out what was, um, six, seven, nine, 10, 11.
125:21Yeah. Yeah. So start 11, start 11. I could, I could, I could get a little bit more.
125:26I could be a little bit more into trading Shuck for Rome.
125:30I would, I would try to do that for Donald.
125:33Dougie said, get, get back a second, which I'd, I'd be, I'd be fully in support of that.
125:39But yeah. Yeah. Also, also, if you weren't listening earlier, if you're listening right now, Rashid Shaheed propaganda is about to get real aggressive.
125:47So you might want to look at, you might want to look at something to do there with, uh, something to do there.
125:54Cause you already got Darnold. Yeah. Like I, you know, this, this guy's a rebuilder and, you know, conquers BFD little conquers
126:01bad fur day, little Nintendo 64 game there. Good game.
126:04Um, it was, it was a good game. Um, um, this, like this guy's Yoshi's cart racers.
126:09Um, you know, he's got Brian Thomas, Marv, Quentin Johnston, Matthew golden.
126:13Right. Like, and I know you should have, and I both like Quentin Johnston this year, but like, I'm not like he's,
126:20he's a team that could potentially be interested in getting shocked, but there's not really like, there's nothing here that I want
126:27to give that up for at the moment. Right.
126:30Right. Um, so, you know, outside of Omar on Hampton.
126:33Right. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I, and obviously I don't think he's trading you that for that.
126:39So no. No, I think you've got to, gotta have a little bit more poise there, but this would be a team
126:46where it's like, all right, well, what do I got to go do to get Omar on Hampton from him?
126:52Let me, what do I got to give you?
126:55And he said, he didn't want to go 27 first, but if I give you shuck and, you know, tootin and, you know, just start throwing pieces together.
127:04And he said, he didn't want to give up a 27.
127:07Well, what's, what's team 11 look like? It's, I didn't see, I didn't see a trade may hurts.
127:13I mean, they're, they're, they're okay, but I could, it's probably most likely not going to be a top four pick.
127:20So, I mean, it's probably a middle pick, which is still going to be good in 27, but you would still have a 27 pick.
127:28I don't know. Um, I'm getting sweaty and tired here.
127:31So, yeah, I mean, like I said, we'll, yeah, I guess we'll be done with this for right now, but I just wanted to throw it out there.
127:40No, no, no. I, it's not sexy and nobody ever, nobody ever gives him his proper respect, but maybe, maybe find a,
127:47find a way to find a way to get involved with chase Brown there from the guy who said no to AJ Brown.
127:54Yeah. And I mean, you know, maybe you're, maybe, you know, starting the three wide receivers, you'd like a couple more killers.
128:01I mean, there's no, there, there's not a terrible amount of, you know, this Spyros, I guess we get, we all got
128:08for the most part, some sort of video game reference.
128:11Um, this guy's nobody's receiving core is like, Oh my God.
128:14Like there's just, you know, I'm in Ron, Justin Jefferson's pretty good.
128:18People did a good job of paying attention to the format here.
128:22Mm-hmm. Jamar chase, Nico and Zay. That one was real sexy.
128:26And I almost said, Hey, try to trade, try to trade Tasha for Zay.
128:30That's a decline. But he already did. He said he did and didn't happen.
128:34Yeah. So, uh, Taz hit us up. We'll help you navigate these waters.
128:39Appreciate you guys. Chev, you got anything else for the people out there?
128:43No, man. My voice is almost gone. I'm, I'm yeah.
128:46Yeah. It's time to wrap up. Um, we'll be back next Wednesday.
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