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1:02Welcome into the Fantasy Price Check, everybody. I am your host, Wyatt.
1:06I'm here with Jeremiah and Pete. And we're talking about second round running backs, specifically using NFFC ADP.
1:11There's, like I said, some really great running backs there.
1:14It's getting hard to pick through them. Which one do you need to draft?
1:19Jeremiah, you're going to start us off. Who are you drafting?
1:22And I'm going to go with O'Marion Hampton. He goes 14 overall, early round two, part of that clump.
1:28And for him, over his last final four games, upon returning to action after injury last year, 17.5 touches per game.
1:35I know there's some fear and reticence with Kamani Vidal and Keaton Mitchell to take some snapshot away.
1:40I think ceiling-wise, of the three running backs that we talk about, he's got a little bit more of that murkiness where
1:47there could be a dent in the can a little bit for full bell cow usage.
1:52But last year, in both formats, he was the RB13 in fantasy points per game, both in half and PPR formats.
1:59I believe he was really ramping up as the season started.
2:02He was about a month in. Recall, he had week three, week four, versus Podcast Pete's Denver Broncos.
2:08He had a RB4 overall performance, 24.9 points. Week five followed it up against the Giants, 27.5.
2:13And then it just dipped from there. Unfortunately, he had to wait from week five to 14.
2:18It was very frustrating. But he is an all-ball type of player.
2:22And he really just, his rushing grade, 84.8. He was eighth best a month, 55 qualified NFL running backs.
2:28So we didn't get a large sample size. And we see this with prospects, college players.
2:33You don't have cumulative stats yet because they're coming from the college game.
2:37So you don't have much compared to the NFL.
2:40Well, I see a Marion Hampton living up to the hype.
2:43I love Mike McDaniel. And he's absolutely a click that you want early in round two.
2:48Pete, are you in or out on Marion Hampton and his price in here round two?
2:53Yeah, I like Marion Hampton. I am a little bit behind the field on him.
2:58I haven't projected for 16.2 points per game. It's a little expensive for me for a team right now that we obviously
3:05don't know how Mike McDaniels is going to call plays, right?
3:08I mean, slow pace of play. It's been talked about at nauseam, you know, over on Twitter.
3:14If you are over there and active, right? I'm sure Wyatt, Jeremiah, you guys have seen a lot of people talk about the pace of play.
3:22And, you know, then there's the other side of it where it's, hey, Mike McDaniels has never really had this kind of
3:29talent outside of when they had Tyreek at full throttle, when they had Jalen Waddell at full throttle, and before Tua was
3:35really kind of a shell of himself. This was a very talented offense a few years ago.
3:41So, I mean, it could also just be part of the fact that this offense was not very talented over the last
3:48few years, and they had to make some adjustments.
3:50So you can kind of go both ways on it.
3:54But with Kamani Vidal plus Keaton Mitchell, there is some smoke there of, you know, are either of them going to eat into the workload?
4:01And honestly, people are talking about Keaton Mitchell being a guy that's going to, you know, catch some passes and kind of lower that ceiling for Hampton.
4:10But Kamani Vidal was also a very, very capable back last year too, who also showed a three-down skill set.
4:16So both of these guys are capable of stealing touches through the air.
4:20I do think Hampton is going to be the main guy on the ground.
4:24And if this offense and this offensive line bounces back and these guys that were injured actually come back to form, Hampton
4:31could be an absolute slam dunk this year, but there are still some question marks.
4:36I like the players. Love the offense. I am a little bit worried about just a tiny bit of a touch squeeze.
4:43And if I'm nitpicking between these running backs, you know, Mitchell, is Vidal going to play third downs because he's a better pass blocker?
4:50How much do they pass? Because McDaniels never had a QB like Herbert.
4:54Jeremiah, do you have anything to, you know, bring down those worries?
4:58Yeah. For receptions last year in nine games, 32 passes he caught on Marion Hampton, 192 yards and a touchdown.
5:04So that three-down skill set utility is still there.
5:07And the prospect profile, he's a three-down back. And I think where the bearishness comes in is because of those other weapons.
5:14Whereas for the two running backs that you gentlemen are going to discuss, there's a lot more room for runway for both running backs.
5:22So I think flying the ointment, it's a valid point, but you're going to want to come away in all formats, especially
5:28in this lumped up price with plenty of a Marion Hampton, because I would just contend if that's going to scare people off, it's going to bring opportunity.
5:37And recall what Mike McDaniel, I think people are thinking of the A-chan role so much and bullishness and forgetting about the Raheem Mostert role.
5:45He had near 19, almost 20 touchdowns in a season.
5:48If we get that jackpot opportunity for a Marion Hampton, it may not matter the change of pace role that somebody like Keaton Mitchell has.
5:56And I contend that it'll be Vidal who is relegated to almost like a Ray Davis role where he doesn't play near
6:03enough to get any kind of push in motion.
6:06But he's going to be a back that you'll want because archetype one for one, it will be Vidal for Hampton.
6:12And then it's a lot like that Broncos backfield to tie it all up where Coleman can play either role, but he's going to be buried behind Dobbins.
6:21And then Harvey's going to have his little pass catching role, kind of like Keaton Mitchell.
6:26Well, Marion Hampton, RB8, 14th overall on the NFFC.
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8:29And Pete is up to let us know about which running back he's taken here.
8:34Yeah, Chase Brown. I have talked a lot about Chase Brown.
8:37I'm very high on Chase Brown. This year, in my early projections, I have Chase Brown 17.3 points per game.
8:43He is ranked inside the first round for me.
8:46You know, I have him as a 1-2 value right now.
8:49Now, of course, you have to understand your league, your board, and you definitely don't need to reach for Chase Brown in the first round.
8:57But that's where I have him valued. So I think second-round cost, there are a lot of people out there that are
9:04a little concerned about, you know, is the price a little too high?
9:08Because people are still shell-shocked from last season where weeks one through seven, just 10 fantasy points per game.
9:14But keeping in mind, right, this was an offense that was a shell of themselves.
9:19Joe Burrow went down. Their passing game was atrocious for a good couple of weeks there.
9:24And then weeks eight through 17, 21.46 fantasy points per game.
9:27Once Joe Flacco came under center, it opened up everything in this offense.
9:31And that's why Chase Brown becomes so appealing for me is because defenses cannot stack the box against a guy like this.
9:38And while people have concern about the size, is he really like a true running back, like that mold that we think about when we want to workhorse?
9:47And he might not look like it, but the scheme and the style and the types of defenses they're going to play
9:54is a perfect fit for Chase Brown. You know, running out of the shotgun a ton, which is actually more efficient if
10:01you are running out of the shotgun. It leads to less stuffs behind the line of scrimmage and also spreads the defense out.
10:08So not going to be a lot of tough boxes.
10:11And again, Joe Flacco, once he came under center, it's not a surprise that Chase Brown ended up exploding.
10:17And that's why he was a major, major buy in the middle of the season for me last year.
10:23And it paid off for a lot of fantasy managers.
10:26I see that happening again. Me and Wyatt, we talked probably about a month ago, Wyatt.
10:31And we said, you know, there are some offenses that really not much has changed.
10:36And when you look at last year to this year, what has really changed about this offense outside of their offensive line is slightly improving, right?
10:44Dalton Reisner came in last year. All right. He actually rebounded.
10:47He's had kind of an up and down career, right?
10:50They have the young kid at right tackle, Mims, who, you know, he's going into another year.
10:56He's a very athletic, you know, very kind of like a project coming out, but a very, very high ceiling.
11:02And so this offense line is getting better, right?
11:05And the last thing I'll say is Joe Flacco is back.
11:08Joe Flacco is back. So he is there in case Joe Burrow goes down.
11:12So the worry of if Burrow gets hurt, we have a contingency plan right away with Joe Flacco, who knows the offense.
11:19So I'm very excited for Chase Brown. I think he's a smash at his cost.
11:24And even in non-NFFC, in sleep or in ESPN ADP, he's like a two, three turn pick.
11:29So if he stays there in your home leagues, that's going to be a tremendous value.
11:34Chase Brown going right after Omari and Hampton in drafts.
11:37Jeremiah, the story on Chase Brown these last couple of years has basically been like awesome role, just elite role.
11:44But he might be just a good, not great running back.
11:47I mean, how are you feeling? Well, I got pushed back on that narrative because when we think about a great running back, we think of Derrick Henry.
11:56And then we think of archetype. Pete mentioned the type of archetype, Belcal running back.
12:01Well, Chase Brown, RB7 last year, Derrick Henry, RB8 respectively.
12:04So he can put up just the same type of numbers, just in a different form and fashion, which we love.
12:10Receiving game, seventh and target share at the running back position, 14.5%, fourth and routes run, eighth and route participation.
12:16The numbers are all there and set up. And if you look, it's kind of like what the Panthers have done with Chuba Hubbard and Jonathan Brooks.
12:25That was a much cheaper degree. But at a higher level, the Bengals last year brought in Henderson, Trevion Henderson, Quinshawn Jenkins.
12:32Maybe it was just like an Ohio thing. But they had him for visits and there was that caution.
12:38Hey, somebody's going to come in and eat into Chase Brown's role.
12:41It didn't happen this year. So we got another year of confirmation on that end.
12:46I think it speaks a lot to the faith and the good coach speak that you'll read up on Taj Brooks.
12:53And then Samaj Pirine, who may come in on some third downs.
12:56It really hasn't eaten into the fact that Chase Brown hit RB7 overall.
13:01And I think his ceiling is actually higher than RB7 overall.
13:04So I think this is a very sharp pick and play by Pete.
13:08Now, Pete, do you think that the Bengals defense will continue to be so bad that they are forced to be in
13:15these shootouts like they have been the last couple of years?
13:18That is the one thing I did tweet about it.
13:21They've made a lot of improvements on the defense.
13:24So that is some slight concern that they won't be in these shootouts.
13:28But I also just look at it and I say it's it's they're going to be better.
13:34They're not going to be a top defense. The other thing I would say is the strength of schedule.
13:40They do have a tough schedule, so it could be good.
13:43They may be in some competitive games wide. It could be bad and it could mean that the ceiling is capped a little bit.
13:50But it's a good point to bring up about the defense.
13:54But I still feel pretty strong. And that's why I said you're not going to have to pay first round price for a guy like Chase Brown.
14:02Yeah, I like Chase Brown a lot because of that role being so just darn elite.
14:07But picking between these, it's tough, you know, and I have to say a big reason why I have not gotten as
14:14much Chase Brown as I thought I would going offseason is because of my player and how high I am on him.
14:21And that's Kenneth Walker. He's going to RB 11 18th overall on NFFC.
14:25First off, I just think an absolutely supremely talented player.
14:28I've been talking about this all offseason. He's been top 12 in Duke Raid every season of his career.
14:34He's been top five in each of the last three.
14:37There was concern about what he would do as a receiver in the NFL.
14:42And for a couple of years, you know, there was a little bit concern.
14:46And then he went out in 2024 and was fourth among all running backs in target share.
14:51It showed that he can do that. I think he's going to be doing more of that with the Chiefs.
14:58Eric Biennemi back as offensive coordinator for the Chiefs in five of six seasons as offensive coordinator.
15:03His running backs have been top 16 in total targets.
15:06We're looking at on those numbers were over 100 in all of those seasons, nearing 120 in some of them.
15:12If Kenneth Walker gets half of that, like we are loving it and we're looking at top five running back upside.
15:19I've been saying since the moment he signed with the Chiefs, I think he has the RB1 overall upside in this offense.
15:26I think the Chiefs are going to rely on him early in the offseason, especially as Patrick Mahomes returns from this torn ACL.
15:33And they're already talking about in camp like Patrick Mahomes is really pumped to be able to turn around and hand off to Kenneth Walker.
15:41This is a team that needed to find explosives somehow.
15:44They were having trouble finding it in the passing game.
15:47They have not had it at all in the run game.
15:50And now they truly have it in both facets with Kenneth Walker.
15:54I'm really excited for what he can do in this offense.
15:58Pete, I'm going to toss over to you first.
16:00I know that early in the offseason, you were pushing me back a little bit on that, but you might be coming around a little bit.
16:08I did. I did come around a little bit.
16:11I have Walker at 17.2, Brown at 17.3. So, I mean, it's like right there, right?
16:16And there's going to be times I'm going to have exposure to Walker, times I'm going to have exposure to Brown.
16:23So, I'll definitely mix and match. I love both of these players.
16:27The more and more, you know, we dive in.
16:29I love the fact that Patrick Mahomes is now ready week one, it sounds like.
16:34I mean, I doubt that that's not going to be the case.
16:38And from a receiving standpoint, right, I mean, this team does still lack weapons to catch the football, right?
16:44So, Kenneth Walker can still be an outlet for him.
16:47And the truth is Patrick Mahomes I don't think is going to want to run nearly as much.
16:52So, rather than run to extend plays, I think there's a good chance he dumps it off rather than putting the ball
16:59in harm's way because there aren't going to be a ton of options downfield, right?
17:04I mean, Xavier Worthy did, you know, have some issues connecting.
17:07So, I have Walker projected for 62.8 targets this year.
17:11I think that would be really good. And the last thing I'd say is he played wide receiver in high school.
17:17So, I mean, he does have in his profile two catches of football.
17:21He just really wasn't utilized nearly as much as we would have wanted, which has always been the bugaboo with him plus the injury history.
17:29So, if he's healthy, I don't see why he can't smash and kind of, you know, no Kareem Hunt stealing touchdowns at the goal line.
17:37Jeremiah, how are you feeling? Hey, this is if you had Nick Chubb who could catch passes, would you take him?
17:43Absolutely. And that is what Kenneth Walker is. And we have seen he has given into the powers of the hairline.
17:50He's not holding on for dear life like B.
17:53John Robinson is. He's fully accepted it. One season removed from 46 receptions.
17:57So, when Pete talks about a low 60s total on projected targets, that really does track.
18:02And if you take a look at Patrick Mahomes, he's usually good for three to 350 rushing yards.
18:07If that shaves down to even 200 or shaves in half, there's more opportunity to share there.
18:13And to Pete's point about dumping off. And then I love Emmett Johnson.
18:17We love a Mary DiMarcato to a degree. But I, well, for where he's priced.
18:21For where he's priced. A degree in there. Yeah, it's all relative.
18:25Yeah, not like up here. But we enjoy their talents, their skill sets, what they can offer.
18:31But I think they're so further on the map to call back to how I led off with O'Marrion Hampton.
18:37Where it's the runway is clearly there for Kenneth Walker.
18:40So, when you take the backfield competition, I think Hampton has the highest haul to get through.
18:45And then the Chiefs for Kenneth Walker. Really, the only opponent to Kenneth Walker is, hey, we say, your only opponent is yourself, right?
18:53It's the injuries. Can he stay on the football field?
18:56If Kenneth Walker is on the football field, he's good as gold.
19:00But then you have a conundrum if he's off the field.
19:03You're just going to have to go through Wednesday reports where it's, hey, oblique soreness.
19:08Something with the hip or the ankle. Anything that pops up throughout the week and you're seeing, did not practice, did not practice.
19:15And then Friday, you get hit with the limited practice and you're just like, all right, we're still back.
19:21You have to go through that roller coaster. That's the one price of admission that you have to pay the cost on Kenneth Walker.
19:28It's that midweek to late week sweat where he pops up on the injury report.
19:33But I think the Chiefs are going to do a tremendous job of taking care of him.
19:38And I love stylistically a lot of what Pete said about the change in the tenor, how it can funnel through Kenneth Walker.
19:45Yeah, I'll finish up on Kenneth Walker by just saying, you know, Andy Reid running backs used to be a cheat code
19:52for us in fantasy for a very long time, going back all the way to when he was with the Eagles.
19:59Many Eagles running backs were some of our favorites in fantasy football.
20:03I think people tend to forget that a little bit.
20:06But Jeremiah, I do appreciate you bringing up the really risk to Kenneth Walker because I do think it is a real thing.
20:13There are players where we have to worry about a little bit more.
20:17And Kenneth Walker kind of is. And like people were complaining last year when the Seahawks were splitting so much time between
20:24him and Zach Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker stayed healthy the entire season.
20:28And it's like maybe a team looks at that formula and says like, he's really good, but we do need to limit
20:34the opportunity just a little bit to make sure he's healthy throughout the season.
20:39And that is going to be a concern for everybody going through.
20:43I just think the potential is so great that I'm going to ignore those concerns.
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