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0:40I saw you sneak in a cam or trade.
0:44Hey, hey, hey. You know how I get down.
0:47And you know how we get down with EFF Dynasty.
0:51It's me, Shev. Unfortunately, you don't get the what is good.
0:55I'm not gonna do that. Casey's not here. So, that's me, Big Co.
0:59How we doing? Doing well, sir. Happy to be here.
1:03Appreciate you letting me grace your presence tonight. Hey, listen.
1:07If I had both of your hands, I would cut mine off.
1:11Nice. Well played, sir. Well played. So, we're here tonight.
1:15I've got, we're gonna go over some, go over some Dynasty trades, some stuff that you guys put in the Discord.
1:22Appreciate you, Henry Muto. What is good? Sorry we're late, by the way.
1:27We have some, like I said, technical difficulties. Casey's.
1:30Casey had some, you know, his computer went full Smurf, blue screen.
1:35He's trying to figure it out. Thoughts and prayers.
1:38Thoughts and prayers. All that. But he's probably not gonna be with us tonight.
1:43So, it's gonna be me and Big Co. And you're gonna get an hour and a half of the most logical, reasonable,
1:51Carnell Tate discussion that you could do. Yeah. That's right.
1:55That's right. In one of our Dynasty Leagues, Shev snuck in a nice little Cam Ward trade this week.
2:02And I was like, stock up Cam Ward, stock up Carnell Tate.
2:06Right away, connection was there. OTAs. One little practice.
2:09Carnell Tate. It's gonna be a good time. I can't wait to see it, bro.
2:15I've got microphone issues over here. If you don't, I'm just vice gripping this thing, trying to make it work.
2:22Fighting for dear life. Look, what's going on in Charleston that y'all, y'all's tech, y'all's, see, Skynet has taken over in Charleston.
2:30That's what's going on here. Y'all boys, y'all boys are having all kinds of technical difficulties.
2:36Meanwhile, you know, I got people using wagon wheels to get where they're going.
2:41So, no, but in all seriousness, we're gonna go over some, we're gonna go over some Dynasty trades, some stuff that you guys put in the Discord.
2:51And try to just look at your team and provide context that we talk about because that's the biggest difference between us and just about everybody else.
3:01You want to make sure that you are consistently doing things that align with the direction of where you're trying to take your team.
3:09Are you a rebuilder? Doesn't make sense to trade for Stefan Diggs.
3:14Like, but people, I mean, that's a real thing.
3:17Like, if you're new to Dynasty, you don't really understand, like, hey, this guy, this player doesn't fit what I'm trying to do.
3:25I mean, Cole, you, I've learned so much from you as far as just how to move around the board and, like,
3:33capturing different values at different points in time. So, like, I'll let you, I'll cede the floor to you to talk some
3:41theory before I pull up this trade from Hennethon or his roster, rather.
3:46Okay. You work on his roster, pull it up.
3:49Yeah, we could just, I think we do a really good job on this show.
3:55I've talked to you and Casey a ton about remembering that the Dynasty, you know, let's talk about the pond, the fish in the pond, right?
4:04The Dynasty niche, the Dynasty community is growing every day, every season, right?
4:09Fantasy football has been around a long time. And the amount of water cooler talk for fantasy football is outrageous.
4:16And that little tiny chirp in the background of Dynasty is growing and getting louder and louder and louder.
4:23So, we've tried to do really well. I think that, I think we've struck a really good balance of, hey, there's new
4:31people that don't really know how to do this yet, but you can't, they don't know that.
4:37Most of them, you know, hey, when you get one season of Dynasty and you're ready to roll, I get it.
4:45I've been there too. That was 15 years ago, but I get it.
4:50So, we try to go real high level sometimes and just, you know, get knee deep in that thing.
4:57And then we try to pump the brakes for a second and then back up and zoom out and say, all right,
5:05well, if you're brand new to this or you just got a couple seasons in, this is why this might make sense
5:13to, you know, might not make sense right in a second, but it will when you get a little bit more, you
5:21know, get more seasons under your belt. And, man, Dynasty is so much fun, dude.
5:26It just gives you something to think about. You can't sleep late at night.
5:31You're laying in the bed. You're like, should I trade that second round pick?
5:36Like, you know, should I just go ahead and move some chips at the table?
5:42I got two, I got Jonathan Taylor and I got Josh Jacobs, which was a lot more fun to have on my Dynasty team two days ago.
5:52So, but that's all I got and I'm studded out.
5:55So, should I go trade for DeAndre Swift and put him on my bench before the season starts?
6:02You know, just, man, all kind of stuff. You're driving down the road, get stuck in a red light.
6:09Now you're talking, you're thinking to yourself, talking out loud, just you and the steering wheel.
6:15Do I really like Caleb Williams as much as pretty much every other quarterback in the league?
6:21Not Dean, Josh Allen, you know? Yeah. So, it's Dynasty is where it's at, bro.
6:26And you got, you got the draft picks, everything.
6:29Draft picks is, it's the currency, you know? It's a $100 bill.
6:34You know, if you're going out on town, you got a $100 bill, you feel like you can do some damage.
6:41Not anymore. Not anymore. It's $80 for a bag of groceries now.
6:46But back in the day, $100 bill used to do some damage.
6:50Draft picks, draft picks in Dynasty do damage because they're just straight up liquid.
6:55You can try, you can just move them anytime.
6:59It just makes everything a little bit better. You move around, you're able to move around the board.
7:05Like, I'm trying to, Hennethon, if you're in the chat, I'm about to pull yours up.
7:11In Curse24, my apologies. I can't get the sleeper thing to pull your league ID.
7:16So, we're going to go straight to, we're going to go straight to Hennethon here.
7:22And we're going to look at his Death by Dynasty league.
7:26And his question was, do I down tier off of Bowers and pick, and pick for Loveland and Warren?
7:33And we can pull up the league settings here.
7:36We pull up the league settings here. Let's see.
7:39Go ahead, Biko. Go down from Bowers and get Loveland and Warren?
7:44That's what he's asking. He says, down tier off of Bowers and pick for Loveland and Warren.
7:50Does Bowers, does Bowers and pick, does that and pick, does that mean that Bowers and a draft pick?
7:57Yes. Is that what just... Okay, obviously I need to know what the draft pick is.
8:03I'm leaning towards Loveland and Warren over Bowers. Obviously, Bowers, if you've been listening to this show, I put Bowers in the Holy Grail territory.
8:12Never wavered. Got drafted by the Raiders. Never wavered.
8:15Won't waver. He's in the Holy Grail territory. But Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren combined, we put our powers combined, a little Captain Planet action.
8:24And, you know, if you've got an old school bench, an old school league where you only start two running backs, two
8:32wide receivers, a tight end, and maybe a flex, and it's just super tight, maybe Bowers is your guy.
8:39But most of the time nowadays, we've got multiple flexes and all that kind of stuff.
8:45So, the more roster spots, starting roster spots every week that you've got to have, the more important it is to have,
8:53you know, more than just two studs, right? Yeah.
8:56So, the... I mean, you know, like, you can't just be top heavy for the first two or three guys.
9:03You've got to be able to get... If you can't have a huge hole in your starting lineup, if you, you know,
9:11if you've got multiple starting lineup, start 10, start 11, start 12 these days, we're getting crazy with it.
9:18And Bowers is a monster, but I could definitely trade Bowers and get Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren.
9:25I think we talked about it a little bit last week, Shev.
9:29Like, Tyler Warren started out, and it was like he was in that first 15 plays, that scripted coach's 15 plays.
9:37Right. Tyler Warren... I don't think there was a bigger, you know, difference between...
9:42I don't think there was another play in her league that had more, like, first quarter action and then tailed off as
9:50the game went on than Tyler Warren. Yeah. And I think that that should be ironed out and looked at more.
9:58And the Colts, you know, I think Tyler Warren is obviously a big piece of what they got going on.
10:05And I said it last week, I'm tasting... I'm not...
10:09We got at the very end of the show last night, last week, it was Colson Loveland over...
10:15The running back for the Dolphins, where we got to last week.
10:20H-H-H-H-H-H. You know, so right now, that's where I was.
10:23And that's... I mean, obviously, that's tight end premium.
10:26Straight up, no premium. I gotta... I'll go H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H.
10:30But in tight end premium, I have Colson Loveland way up there.
10:34Warren started out so hot last year. Things got a little crazy on his value.
10:40but it's settled in. He still hasn't fallen very far.
10:43If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That sounds right until you actually do the math.
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12:12TNCs apply. In-app only. So anyway, that was a long way to say I'm not mad at you for trading Brock Bowers,
12:20turning Brock Bowers into Colston, Loveland, and Tyler Warren.
12:23I mean, Loveland could easily end up this year not too far behind Brock Bowers.
12:28Right. But I think from a utility standpoint, this is start 10.
12:33So, you know, Superflex, Titan Premium, start 10. Three wide receiver, two flex.
12:37Yeah. Three wide receivers, two flexes, one Superflex. So, moving, you know, this trade basically gives you, you get an extra high-end flex.
12:46Right? Instead of, you know, just being, just having Brock Bowers as the sole, like, the sole driving force.
12:53Now, you get to diversify, you get to down tier a little bit.
12:57And like Big Coe said, it's not as much of a, there's not as much of a, a hit if Colson Loveland
13:05comes out and he just repeats what he was doing the back half of the year.
13:11And then, if we can just time it up right and you get what Tyler Warren was doing the first half of the year.
13:20Now you're talking. Now you got a monster. Mm-hmm.
13:23Now you really got a monster. I want to ask you a question though.
13:28Do you think, do you think that Tyler Warren is the, is the target leader for the Colts in 2026?
13:36Oh man, that's a fantastic question. Um, I, I mean, I would like to say yes.
13:42Um, and, and, and I say that because obviously Alec Pierce is going to grow into a much bigger role and Josh
13:50Downs, uh, you know, could be a fantastic player.
13:53I like Josh. I'm a, I'm a big Josh Downs guy, but I think the easy button for that offense is to
14:01let Tyler Warren lead it in targets because Alec Pierce is going to be playing the big boy.
14:07He's been the best, he's been the best threat, best deep threat in the league for two years.
14:14Yep. And, last year he made a handful of nasty plays that were not just bombs, right?
14:20It was getting open. It was catching, catching traffic.
14:23Uh, his Madden catching traffic rating had to be going up on a weekly basis.
14:29Right. Um, he was catching the ball away from his body, moving the opposite way, running across the middle and it was
14:37an outside, you know, it was an off target pass and he reached back, you know, just, I thought he did.
14:44I thought he was a breakout season without like massive quantity of targets.
14:49That'd be it. So I think we talked last week about the compliment of talent on that team and with John, John,
14:57and Taylor, uh, his carry, you know, amount load is going to represent a portion of the targets.
15:04You know what I mean? Like they go and ride that man and they should and they probably going to ride him
15:12to more victories and obviously Daniel Jones has to come back and be healthy for those, for the W's to add up on the scoreboard.
15:21But I think Tyler Warren should be so, but let me go back to Brock Bowers for just a quick second before
15:29you do what you got to do. I, it wouldn't shock me at all if Brock Bowers scored as many points week
15:37one as the, both of those two guys put together.
15:41There's chatterbox about Brock Bowers being, you know, the JSN role, right?
15:45Just the, just the target him on every throw roll and I, I wouldn't blame him to do it.
15:52You know, it almost feels irresponsible not to. Right.
15:55Right. If we're being, if we're being totally honest, there's no target competition outside of Ashton Jenty getting a hundred targets.
16:03And I feel like that's, I feel like that's a reasonable outcome.
16:07Yep. And I, there's a lot more mouths to feed in Indy to tie this in with Tyler Warren.
16:14But I still think that he's, I think that he's the type of talent he could do what he did at Penn
16:22State where he was just basically the focal point of the offense of poor man's Brock Bowers.
16:28Brock Bowers is a wide receiver. I mean, you know, they already called him a football robot.
16:34I expect him to do some really special things this year.
16:38But, and I think Tyler, Tyler Warren can be an approximation to that.
16:43Colson Loveland could be an approximation of, Colston Loveland could be an approximation of that.
16:49I mean, he's awesome. Right? So, getting both, going back and tying all of this together, getting Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland,
16:57but tearing off of Brock Bowers, who I genuinely believe, I don't think you'll push back on this.
17:03He could give you a one of those, he could give you a Travis Kelsey, peak Travis Kelsey season where he gets
17:11110 catches and 13, 14 yards and 10 touchdowns.
17:14I think we're all expecting that to happen. The thing that just happened with Trey McBride could very easily happen with, could
17:22very easily happen with Brock Bowers this year. I expect it to, yes.
17:27I mean, I don't know if I expect 140 catches, but I expect triple-digit catches.
17:33In fact, I'd be let down if we didn't get it.
17:37I'm going to put you in the hot seat real quick and then we'll answer.
17:42I'll start bringing up some questions that we can talk through, talk through some of that in the chat and then we'll
17:50jump back and forth, pull up somebody else's roster as we get through.
17:55I have to look at it on my phone because I've got a lot going on.
18:01Anyway, I know you have a lot going on.
18:04Yeah, hit me with it. So, let's just, all right, here it is, super flex, tight end premium, 0.5, that's our standard
18:12setting for those of you who haven't been to the ffdynasty.com, right?
18:16Like, here we go. Right? The man, the man, we're going to swipe on Brock Bowers.
18:22So, Brock Bowers or Jameer Gibbs. I'm good either way.
18:26That's how much I like Brock Bowers. I'm down with either one of those guys.
18:31Coin flip, you can swipe either way. And that's saying, Jameer Gibbs was, ridiculous last year.
18:37Brock Bowers was hurt and we didn't get, but that's, that's, I'm not letting recency bias of how a make Gibbs was
18:45scoring me 40 points a week, bro. I did like my teams would Gibbs were just soaring, but in tight end premium,
18:53when Brock Bowers was healthy, he was doing the same thing.
18:57So, I wouldn't give, I wouldn't give anything to go the other way, right?
19:02Like, you can't, I wouldn't trade my Brock Bowers, you know, there's no situation here where, one for one, tie.
19:09Either way, I'm good. I'm fine. Most people are going to take Gibbs and I don't have a problem with that, but
19:17I'm just saying that's how much I like Brock, like Brock Bowers.
19:22It's a tie. I, I mean, I can't disagree with you for this exercise here.
19:27We're going to go, I'm going to go Gibbs just, just because.
19:32That's fine. And most people would. And that's like, if I'm on the clock in the startup and I'm at one five
19:40or whatever and Jameer Gibbs is on the, on the board, a couple quarterbacks and Bijon are gone and everybody's looking at
19:48Jameer Gibbs and I'm like, I really want Brock Bowers anyway.
19:52So I trade, I get a second round pick to move back one pick and they take Gibbs and I take Brock Bowers and everybody's happy.
20:01Hey man, that's, that's your, it's if they're both healthy and they're both playing, it's just going to be who had the bigger week to feel better.
20:11Who gets to feel better about the trade? That's not one of those.
20:16That's not one of those scenarios where you end up saying, Hey, I, you know, I got the plus.
20:23So I won. There's no way that you can get a plus there and we'll look at, we'll explore some more trades.
20:31Green are yelling at their, you know, headphones right now being like Big Co is crazy.
20:36Did they not see the Gibbs playing it at home in Detroit on the fast track like breaking off 50 yard runs all the time?
20:46Yes, I get it. I do. But when you get the 1.5 tight end, you know, when you get an extra half
20:54a point or more, obviously more, the more the better, you know, a two point tight end, I said it last year,
21:02a two point tight end premium Brock Bowers was my 1-1.
21:06I said it last year, and Trey McBride was my 1-2.
21:10So, I stand by that. You get 50% like if Brock Spowers catches 110 balls this year, that's like 160 catches, you know?
21:18So, obviously, you know, Gibbs could catch 80. So, the answer is probably Gibbs, but when you catch that, you know, when
21:26you catch that Travis Kelsey guy, if you get a chance at Travis Kelsey, you take him.
21:32Yeah. All right. This is going to be some direction you're going here.
21:37I'm taking Brock Bowers and the reason it's that much easier for me right now against JSN is just because there's a
21:45lot of good receivers that I like. Is there a lot of JSNs?
21:50No. Is there a lot of guys that get 160 targets like you laid out so eloquently last week?
21:57No. But there are wide receiver points to be had.
22:00The reason it was tougher against Gibbs is because there's tough, you know, it's B.
22:06John and Gibbs and we wanted to be J.
22:09D. And it might be Price and, you know, it is what are you doing?
22:14Because Price like Jadarian Price? No, no, my bad.
22:18My bad. Me and Jadarian Price don't get down like that.
22:22Okay. You try to slip a pinky in there, boy.
22:25I don't know what was going on. I go full thumb if I'm going.
22:30But, okay, so this one will be Brock Bowers.
22:34It's Bowers and I love St. Brown. Yeah. It's Bowers.
22:37Yeah. You're got to be in the top. Yeah.
22:41Oh, it's Caleb Williams. And Caleb Williams just popped up on the screen for the guys that aren't watching the video.
22:48If you're on the podcast, he's hitting the swipes on the FF dynasty website and it became Brock Bowers versus Caleb Williams.
22:56And so here's the thing. You talk about high end dynasty chit chat.
23:01Yeah. Okay. So I'm sitting there at one five, one six in my dynasty startup.
23:06And if I'm feeling frisky, I might have to trade up and get two picks in a row.
23:13And I might have to bang them. I might have to get Brock Bowers and Caleb Williams back to back.
23:20I might have to give up having a couple picks.
23:24I've told I'll talk it. I'll talk every week about the value of trading back.
23:29But sometimes you want to have fun. And sometimes you can't live without Caleb Williams and Brock Bowers at the same time.
23:37You got to figure it out, man. I was in the startup.
23:42I was going to start up in the second round and I was getting nervous about.
23:48So we had rookie placeholder picks. I was getting nervous about somebody taking the one one, which obviously totally different tier.
23:55So I traded back. I had the two seven.
23:58I traded into the two six gave up my third and fourth to make sure that I could get Jeremiah Love and Jaden Daniels.
24:07Jaden Daniels had fallen into the second round. That's a fall.
24:11Yeah. Obviously the way to play it is, you know, if you're in a dynasty startup league with me this year, Caleb
24:19Williams isn't going to get too far down the board.
24:23And there's probably a couple people to feel that way.
24:27But I have seen we've been in mocks and we've mocked it up and Caleb Williams went to 110, 112.
24:34You know, you probably are better off paying for a little bit later first round pick instead of, you know, coming up
24:42and get but if somebody takes Caleb Williams in the middle of the first round, they're going to have my conviction about
24:50it and you're drafted him is going to be convicted about it.
24:54You know, yeah, he's he's he's not quite in the Drake May tier of truther but there's some real Caleb believers me being one of them.
25:04Oh, I'm there. And I know you are too.
25:07All right. So like when there's there's two of us there's a million of us but there's not as many like we're
25:15not he can't he's not where Drake May is yet.
25:19Right. He's not quite there yet but value wise you're only getting a small piece that you could add on you know
25:27that you'd be willing to let the draft play out and have to come back on an individual trade and get your
25:35you know have your quarterback and add a lot to it to get Caleb Williams you know if you took take Brock
25:43Bowers middle of the first and you gamble and then you don't get him and you might have I think I go
25:51I think I go Brock Bowers but very easily by October we could be talking about Caleb Williams I said it on
25:59one of the shows I wanted if you wanted my if you were trying to tear down from Drake and come after
26:07my Caleb Williams I'd be like sorry that ain't a tear down for me bro I ain't giving you nothing we're heads
26:15up we're even I'm not giving you nothing in fact I'll just hang on then every morning it combines these factors into
26:23an easy to understand score from 1 to 100 so you'll know how to take the quality of your sleep from okay
26:31to very high know your no do overs no second chances no more mr nice guy this is winner take all the
26:39NBA finals continue on ABC and ESPN app the forward momentum obviously the Patriots made it to the Super Bowl but they
26:47probably they really shouldn't have beat the Broncos but I don't want to digress too much because that's what I do the
26:55forward momentum of the Bears offense right the inertia of that Bears offense last season was impressive to say the least okay
27:03and so where I assume did they pick up they had to Ben Johnson had to tear it all down this is
27:11you know he had to tear it all down last year goes over leaves the Lions as the best quarterback coordinator in
27:19the league handpicked where he wanted to go went to Chicago to work with Caleb did they draft amazingly Colson Loveland Luther
27:27Burden yada yada yada tear it all down and make it work for Caleb Williams first and foremost and it worked and
27:35he did and they they were on as such a forward play I mean just like I said the momentum of that
27:43offense towards the end of the year was wild and I can't wait to see him start back up week one everything
27:51they get to do everything to do this year in the OTAs and the offseason and and the training camp everything they
27:59get and he he said she said should have would have could have like the bears like are must watch TV bro
28:07I was in a bagel shop two days ago with my two two boys and this dude came in wearing a bears
28:15shirt he was younger cat and I sat there and my boys were eating their bagels and I kept looking I was
28:23like I gotta ask that dude if he's a fan or bit taken back couldn't believe that I'm talking to him about
28:31his bears shirt and just he was like dude I'm so excited and I was like you got Colson you got top
28:39down you the thing with the bears and I'm gonna grab I'm gonna pivot off this in a second but the thing
28:47with the bears is you've got everything in place and if you watch them play at all Caleb Williams just makes it
28:55like you you say oh wow I don't know if there's five other players or three other players or hell one other
29:03player that could do what he just did in the manner in which he just did it you know the fourth down
29:11throw the fourth down throw against the Packers you know the the long touchdown the fourth down throw against the Rams where
29:19he finds he throws it like 50 yards to the back of the end zone oh where he's running backwards for what
29:27forever oh yeah yes that was correct like the he just does something that's completely electrifying that just makes and takes your
29:35breath away it was like man we get to we're not watching the best version of this it can be completely different
29:43so coming that's what that's we all we all see or you just hate Caleb Williams so much that you can't accept
29:51that he's going to be he's one of the most talented quarterbacks in the league we like and we're just scratching the
29:59surface but to pivot off this and go to a trade we got a trade it's your Lions we're going to tear off of Amon Amon Ross St.
30:09Brown here for Pickens Wandale and 28 first I'm not doing that I'm not trading Amon St.
30:15Brown for Pickens Wandale and a 28 first I'm not doing it got 140 targets and caught anywhere close to his hands
30:23anything catchable he caught it two years ago last year he dropped a couple balls and so to the ball everybody on
30:31the team is like that doesn't happen nobody is upset nobody he dropped a and you can fix it and forget it you put St.
30:40Brown in your lineup and you don't trade him if you trade him it's got to be a massive trade you tear up from St.
30:49Brown you do not I was out here shooting my shot for Pickens early and often early and often I was like
30:57dude Pickens is a stud he's this he's that and I said you know if you as far as physical God given
31:05gifts he's a top five wide receiver in the league it's physical gifts body physical gifts that's it that's all I was
31:13talking the tide turned last year and as everybody else started getting on the Pickens bandwagon I'm like I don't want I
31:21got pickens on all my teams because he got so cheap Jeff I just kept picking him up picking him up and
31:29and and then I'm like I don't know if I I know there's a 28 first round a 20 28 first round picking that when it's St.
31:39Brown Pickens Wanda Robinson in a 28 first to me that trade is not even when that money adds up and I
31:47hope nothing happens and I hope he's fine but I did live through the Antonio Brown in my off my dynasty teams
31:55and Antonio Brown could anybody who has followed me for any length of time or you just search my profile on Twitter
32:03and just type George Pickens in on my profile on Twitter X and you'll find some really aggressive things that I've said
32:11about his talent I do I mean I I've been there with you the entire time like hey man this is not
32:19normal there are not a bunch of receivers that can do what he can do on the flip side of this though
32:27now that this is now that we've actually gotten a you know a season that is in alignment the young people right
32:35I'm in my 40s right I think you're close to 40 or you're in your 40s thank you thank you I'm about
32:43to be 43 so what you and then like you're gonna you're gonna have to produce results with people that's children with
32:51George Pickens in this scenario it's championships or returning value being a valuable stable asset on your team I love George Pickens
32:59stable stable stable that's the word it's the hot crazy matrix all over again like George Pickens could show up anywhere on
33:07that motherfucker at any given time you don't know so with I'm on Ross St.
33:13Brown I know what he's going to be on a year in year out basis big coaches laid it out he's gonna
33:21be 140 to 160 targets 100 to 120 catches like 1200 to 1500 yards and 10 to 15 touchdowns and I can
33:29book it even if it's 8 to 12 touchdowns is fine but my man is getting you know yeah he just had
33:37a season where he was he had the most inside like I believe like inside the five targets of any they go
33:45to them they go to them it's everything that you would want in a we off the board, our expert rankings have it at 44.
33:54Crowdsourced, he's, I want to say, basically he's like wide receiver 10.
33:58Okay, coming off the board. I'll get the exact number here in a second.
34:03I'll pull that up. But you're just adding way too much volatility, not enough stability to your team, and that value can tank.
34:12And there's just no reason to do that for Romano-Saint Brown, to close the loop on all that.
34:18Yep. While you're pulling up the next question, I've been knee-deep in the stock market for like six months.
34:25Okay. And I've been listening to all of stock market podcasts.
34:29And just a quick one-liner that I heard the other day, it's just the basic math of the stock market.
34:37It's just the value of a stock is driven by expectations.
34:41And the value of St. Brown is driven by his expectations.
34:45And we expect this and we pretty much, you can bank on it.
34:49And the value of Pickens is driven by the same set of expectations.
34:54They're not the same expectation. It's you expecting the volatility.
34:58And therefore, when you expect the volatility, you know you have your upside and your base case are just different than, you know.
35:06His upside, yes. I don't, I mean, he could get, if he ever got 160 targets and he was clocked in for
35:14them, wow, he's probably going to outscore St. Brown.
35:17But the downside is so much lower than anything St.
35:21Brown's going to give us if he's healthy. And St.
35:25Brown's never not been healthy. The only reason I said that is because it's the NFL and everybody gets hurt.
35:32Exactly. If St. Brown is not hurt, his downside is not even, it's nowhere close, you know.
35:38His floor is so much higher than what could happen with Pickens.
35:42So anyway, all right, next question. Uh, well, I'll take one out of the chat here.
35:48All right. Let's see here. There was one I wanted to get to.
35:53Oh, this is easy. I'll let you handle this one.
35:57Thoughts on Keon Coleman from James Stark 603. Yeah.
36:00All right. I love this. Great. Because I just said I've been knee deep in the stock market.
36:06And for the retail traders, which would be me and you, if we were just jumping in with a little bit of
36:14money into each rate or whatever, uh, it's called, you know, it's called by the dip.
36:20Right. And I bought the dip on Keon Coleman last year because he was a 10th rounder.
36:26And this year, she had, we'd, I'd have to pull up a, I could pull up a mock draft, but I'm pretty
36:34sure it's like 16th, which means it didn't work out last year.
36:39And I saw a clip of an interview with him the other day.
36:44And, you know, of course the team is probably just some team reporters and just something on the side of a practice field.
36:52You know, how do you feel about last year?
36:55How do you feel about your progress moving forward?
36:59Right. What do you think about this and that?
37:02And this young fella look right dead in that person's face and said, Oh, last year I was asked.
37:09And I got, you know, benched for three games.
37:12That's, you know, that's unacceptable. Yada, yada, yada. You know, I could do this and I need to do that.
37:19And I, I, he, you know what he said, Chev?
37:23I don't know if you saw it. He said, I got a touchdown in the last game.
37:29And he said, but that don't matter. Cause we lost.
37:33And I'm going, that's my guy. Keon Coleman. Let's go, you know?
37:37And is he going to be a superstar in the league?
37:41Maybe not. He still could be. He's got all the talent in the world.
37:46So he could easily bounce back. I know they just got, um, a new wide receiver over there from, uh, they just got DJ more.
37:55So, so I know they just got DJ more, but Keon Coleman is super young and he's, a stud athlete and the man, six, three to 15.
38:05And every time he makes a play, it is, I'm not going to say it's, it's not like he, he's not on the level of pickings, right?
38:15He's not, but we just said, there's not five guys that play wide receiver at our own level of pickings, physically talented, right?
38:23It's for God given gifts. Keon Coleman's got some God given gifts.
38:28And I'm sure every single person is listening to this.
38:31It's like, well, you're not doing the field without it.
38:35I get it for sure. But there's levels to this.
38:39And Keon Coleman has at a certain level, some magnificent God given talent.
38:43And if, are you pulling up his ADP right now?
38:47I could pull it. I could find him in this mock drafted.
38:51We just now did. This is, this is going to be low.
38:56Rankings. Three Oh seven wide receiver. One 12. Big co I'm looking for key.
39:01That's how far, that's how far. It's bad. Yeah.
39:04Yeah. Okay. So he might not be even drafted in this one that I'm looking at right here.
39:11I'm pretty sure. I'm almost certain that he's not here.
39:14Let me, let me. There he is. He's the, he's so far down there.
39:19He's at, he's ADP two 70. So, and he's still, there's 20 wide receivers ahead of him.
39:26And then this, this, this, uh, I'm so glad you, you asked me this, that you brought that question up.
39:33I'm so glad that guy got posted. Can you put that back up?
39:38And whoever posted that for us, we went 16, we went 16 rounds.
39:42Shev, we went 16 rounds in this mock and he's not even close to being off the board here.
39:49Keon Coleman is so cheap. Obviously they may be the addition of DJ Moore just buried him.
39:55And what happened last year. Bro, this guy could easily.
39:59He's a 10 touchdown kind of guy. Yeah. It could be a nothing burger.
40:04Like I, you know, like the, the, the, the startup that I did last year where I took him into 10th round.
40:12That doesn't feel great right now, but I sure do like seeing his name on my bench.
40:18And because he's on my team, I'll make up for it in other areas.
40:23And this year that this man is about to be an 18th, 20th round pick and, and dynasty startups.
40:30I will have Keon Coleman on every single new team.
40:34And because in a, in an auction league is going to be a dollar, $2 max.
40:40Because at the end of the draft, when everybody's out of money, Keon Coleman may fetch $2.
40:46And then in a regular, you know, pick them league in a snake draft, he's going to be a 20th round, 18, 19, 20th round pick.
40:55He's going to be on every startup team because his cost is zero.
41:00And this time last year, I got every, I got Christian Watson for a dollar and two startup auctions.
41:07And that paid off, you know, and I got Alec Pierce for a dollar.
41:12And I got my, yeah. You got Alec Pierce for, I cannot believe I was out of money.
41:19Oh, you were out of money early brah. You, you, you emptied the clip.
41:24You emptied the clip. I got Alec Pierce for a dollar.
41:28I got Christian Watson for a dollar. I got Michael Mayer for a dollar.
41:33Um, you know, yeah, this, the beautiful thing about Keon Coleman is that if it rebounds, it rebounds to a spot where
41:41he's, he's a, a strong wide receiver too. If he becomes the primary target somehow in this office, right?
41:48If he's grown up, if he's taking a step, right.
41:52That won't be week one. That won't be one.
41:55That's not going to be. Ironically enough. It was week one last year where we were all like, we are so bad.
42:03Yeah. Right. And then it just, it just went, but there's some growth and some maturity that he was speaking with.
42:10Like you alluded to that really make me think if the lights come on and he's done with all that goofy shit,
42:18talking about his, his coat and eating cookies and stuff.
42:22And he's ready to like really dig in and be the type of receiver that he needs to be for that team.
42:30Then that value explodes. See? So, all right, that's perfect.
42:34I'm glad you said it like that. The goofy shit, because for me, some of that playfulness, you know, let me just,
42:42I'm not a 20 year old kid anymore. I got gray hair.
42:46I just told you about to turn 43 next week, nor am I super talented 20 year old kid.
42:53Just being drafted in the NFL, nor am I from wherever Keon's from or where I'm, you know, like I'm not in here.
43:01I can't put myself in his shoes. I've never been a six, four black dude is who's amazing at football.
43:09Right. I can't put myself in his shoes. Yeah.
43:12But what I do, what does drain me sometimes is, you know, the over attempt at just being, you know, a 20
43:20year old kid and they trying to be too hard.
43:24Yeah. Right. And I, again, I certain neighborhoods, bro, you got, that ain't even a game that is real.
43:31Right. And I heard it all, you know, I heard, I heard Jamal Crawford on Daniel, Dan Patrick this morning, talking about the best basketball game.
43:40It never happened. Something at Rucker park and the lights went out and yada, yada, yada.
43:46And, and Jay-Z, you know, they, they talked about all these guys from back in the day and it was awesome story,
43:54but like, and they were like, you know, this guy's team was called such and such.
44:00And it was the life they lived. And they were, you know, they were not the enforcers, but something about that.
44:07Some, some term I forgot, but it's basically they scared you.
44:11Right. Like Keon Coleman's playfulness to me was like, well, at least he ain't trying to pretend to be something he's not, but you said it's goofy shit.
44:21And I'm like, all right, so we need to be in the middle there.
44:27Keon, you know, I've, I appreciate you not pretending to be, you know, something, but chef says you need to stop being so goofy.
44:35So can we get in the middle? And, you know, be humble.
44:40Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Get, get the train on the tracks because I'm, I'm buying, I'm buying the dip, bro.
44:48The dip, the dip redipped. Okay. So the dip, the dip dipped, and then it didn't work out.
44:54And it is, it's in the cellar. And that's when you make money in dynasty, because you're going to get a first round.
45:03You know, I think it was the first pick in the step.
45:07Was he a first round or his first, first pick in the second round?
45:12First pick in the second round. You're going to get that player on the bills with Josh Allen.
45:19And I know DJ Moore's there and they got Shakir, but that's pretty much it.
45:24You know, I'm a Dalton Kincaid guy, but you know, it's just.
45:28The thing that they would be on is with, with something like this, he does have the draft capital for them to not immediately throw him away.
45:38He has the talent. We've clearly seen the talent in flashes.
45:42When I say the goofy shit, it's like, Hey, if you can be goofy and go out there and catch a hundred
45:50balls and, you know, you'd be a double digit touchdown guy and you want to be funny in the interviews.
45:58Cool. But you got to cut that out when you're not performing.
46:02Yeah. I got you. You know, and I know people say, Hey man, you just got to be who you look, man,
46:10like nobody wants to hear knock, knock jokes when you're down 35, nothing.
46:15Your career, your career is down 35, nothing right now.
46:18We all have. I love that. That's perfect. Your career right now for your career, you're getting blown out.
46:25Yeah. And he looked at that. He looked at that reporter and said, yo, I got benched three games last year.
46:33It's unacceptable. Yeah. And look at the look in his eyes when he said it too.
46:39And I mean, I know we just did 10 minutes on Keon Coleman, but I feel like it was really, it's really important for to close loop.
46:49Yes. He's a steal where he's going. He's at wide receiver one 12.
46:53The bottom has fallen out. There is. We're just, this is how far can his value fall before he's a Birmingham stallion?
47:01That's, yeah. You know, it's like either it rebounds or he's a Birmingham stallion.
47:06Yeah. Well, that's so, yeah, we went 10 minutes on Keon Coleman, but we also went 10 minutes in the first round
47:14of a startup a few minutes ago, too. So that's the beauty of what we got going on here is we are fluid.
47:23And you want me to, you want to go 10 minutes in the first round of a startup with high end stuff,
47:31or you want to, you want to fight, you want to go into value bin.
47:36You want to go into clearance rack. And Keon Coleman is on the clearance rack right now.
47:42Speaking of clearance rack, are you, are you a pierce all guy?
47:47Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I've got a couple of wagers out there and I I've been, I've been buying the pierce all.
47:55I've been buying stock of pierce all because again, another depressed asset from the 2024 class because they signed Mike Evans and Christian Kirk.
48:04Yep. Well, what's the one thing that we've seen Mike Evans and Christian hurt Christian Kirk be bad at.
48:10You almost said Christian hurt and Casey and I've been just banging the drum for Christian Kirk for the last two years and it's killed us.
48:20And we've taken him as depth pieces in the backend of startups.
48:24We've taken him as depth pieces on championship rosters and trades, you know, and Christian Kirk has given us nothing.
48:32And he, this might be the year where he gets out there and stays healthy and Brock Purdy.
48:38And he makes some beautiful magic with Brock Purdy.
48:41Cause that's, that's what could happen. But I'm all in on a, give me a Ricky pierce all value dip.
48:49I'm all in. I mean, look, he's a wide receiver 34 right now.
48:53102 in the crowdsource rankings, a wide receiver 37.
48:57And then wide receiver 37 in the expert rankings.
49:00I, I think I might be a little bit higher than Jeremiah and, and Casey in the, in the, in the expert rankings.
49:08But the point being, we haven't seen, we haven't seen Mike Evans and Christian Kirk stay on the field and play football
49:16for long stretches of time over the last couple of years.
49:20And we hadn't seen it for Ricky Pierce all in long stretches either.
49:25Well, wait, it's a way to save that way to catch yourself.
49:29True. But he's 20, he's 25. Yep. Right. He's 25.
49:33And they, they very clearly want to feature him.
49:36They wanted to feature him. They were, I mean, it was, it was real nice.
49:42It was very nice. These first four weeks, we're getting volume, seven, four, seven targets, four catches, 108 yards, six, six targets, four catches, four catches, 56 yards.
49:52Like all just all throughout 11, 11 targets, eight catches, 117 yards.
49:56And then four for 46. And I believe he got hurt this game too.
50:01And then the volume kind of tailed off while the 49ers were trying.
50:06Well, there isn't. Yeah. There's no volume because he's hurt.
50:10He hurt his knee. And then he comes back and he gets tackled on sideline and hurts his ankle or something.
50:17Be like, dude, you're cooking with gas right there.
50:21This is, you know, second season as a pro last the year before when he was trying to become a pro, he gets shot.
50:29So the second season, the first four games, he's rolling right there.
50:34Eight for a hundred or whatever you just said by the third game of the year.
50:40And then he gets hurt and that's, it's the NFL man.
50:44They're like, yeah, he may get hurt early again this year and it might be his fault, might not be his fault,
50:52but like, that's just in the ninth round. I'm, I'm, I can roll with some, with some Ricky Pierce.
50:59I mean, I just don't see, I just don't see any reason to give up on him.
51:05And I've got a couple of wages out there with a couple of other content creators.
51:11I bet Ricky Pierce saw it would have a better season this year than Jaden Reed.
51:16And I, I know I'm a, I know I'm the underdog on that because I mean, Jane Reed's gotten paid, you know,
51:24they've, they've gotten rid of a couple of receivers, but I, I really believe that if he stays healthy, he's going to
51:32end up being the, the, the, the nineers group.
51:36Now, what shocked me if Mike Evans was a target leader?
51:40I think, I mean, if Mike Evans is healthy, he's, he's probably going to catch.
51:45He's like, he's like 34, you know, and that's my point is, you know, seeing him struggle with hamstring injuries for the
51:53last five years, he just, just suffered another hamstring injury and then broke his collarbone when he came back.
52:00And he came back and played after that. He played well.
52:04He's still Mike Evans. Cause he's stud. Yeah. I mean, he's still Mike.
52:09He's first, you know, hall of fame, Mike Evans.
52:12There's no question about it, but I, I think that, you know, just looking at the ADP here, I said ninth round,
52:20like we, I feel like there's no reason. That's such a good graphic, man.
52:25I got to take a second to plug this.
52:29If you're not watching this video on YouTube and you're on the podcast side of things, you got to go over to the FF Donesty's new website.
52:38And she's got the ADP rankings pulled up and then it pulls up a, basically a big chart of the, of the ADP.
52:47And then he clicks wide receivers. So all the wide receivers glow in the other positions shadow out.
52:53And, but you can still see them and you can see them lay up left to right by round.
53:00They're not. And it's just the layout. And what we're looking at here is sick.
53:06Yeah, this is awesome. So yeah, go to the FF dynasty.com.
53:10This is, this is, this is the new hotness.
53:13Obviously you want to get your swipe on dynasty tender, get your swipes, build your own personal rankings.
53:19I just got my two hole one to 300 to come through in a super flex tight end premium on the swipes.
53:27And that's really, that's really interesting, but yeah, go check us out.
53:32FF dynasty.com. All that stuff. I'm going to take this off screen.
53:36So I can look at you in the face real quick.
53:40What you got? Let's see here. What do you want to go?
53:45You got to drop one player. Which one are you dropping?
53:49Jordan Mason, Keon Coleman, Jalen Coker, Kincaid, or Otten?
53:52I mean, in that list, you've, it's, it's probably without, it's probably Keon Coleman on that list.
53:58And you pick one and you pick him back up, you know?
54:02I mean, for the new players out there, you don't always have to drop a player.
54:08You can go trade a player, you know? So you could trade away a K dot and you could trade away a Jordan Mason.
54:17You're not going to get much, but as you, you probably can trade, you could drop Keon Coleman and pick him back up for free.
54:26You got to make a draft. You've got to make a roster spot sometimes.
54:31And you got to make a trade that you don't have to make a drop.
54:37Just wanted to throw that out there for the new guys.
54:41Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, this being able to, being able to identify and avoid landmines like that as, you
54:49know, as a young dynasty manager, you that's, that's valuable, very valuable advice.
54:53Like just always exercise the option to transaction instead of drop.
54:57Let's see. What's this? Henry Muto, our guy, Henry Muto, what QB FFPC league?
55:02I traded away one Oh five, one Oh nine two Oh four.
55:07And my 20, 27 first for JSN and a 20, 27 third.
55:11I am stacked at running back needed a stud wide receiver to go with Jefferson.
55:17Thoughts on the trade. Fair too much. I love it.
55:20I mean, obviously if you said, he said, I'm stacked at, you know, I need, I said, I'm stacked at running back
55:28need to start by the receiver to go with Jefferson.
55:32Don't know anything about your quarterback and your tight end and FFPC, you play for victory points.
55:38You need all the points you can get in your starting lineup and a short benches.
55:44And there's, um, a lot of activity on the waivers, especially the first waiver run, the first waiver run before week one,
55:52you get to, you know, pick up the guys that were not drafted during the rookie draft.
55:58And then after week one, of course, week one and week two, we get plenty of information.
56:04There's always some good roster churn. Um, could you hit the nail on the head at one, nine and two, four and, and, and hit home runs.
56:14You sure could, but you just got JSN. Right.
56:17And, you know, we, I hate, I hate the, Oh, these are studs.
56:22So I'd have to get three first to move them.
56:26Like half of those guys, I wouldn't even trade for three first, but it's a one quarterback FFPC league.
56:33He traded away one, four. So he's already, you know, you're already dropped off, you know, and this, uh, an FFPC, we
56:41had our tray, our, our rookie draft was the first week of May.
56:45So this is a month ago, basically a month ago for him, but at one five, you know, the Carnell Tate's already off the board.
56:55Um, of course, of course the running, running back Carnell Tate was next.
56:59And basically everything. And I saw Jadari and price go at one five, you know, so now you're already that, you know,
57:07without the Mendoza being up there, once you get, obviously it's tight end premium, but in, in FFPC, those short benches kill you.
57:16And Sadiq could be good. Could be great. Could be so much fun, but he also could be a roster clogger for two or three years.
57:25We don't know. I expect him to get some targets, but it's the jets.
57:30And that's where fantasy points go to die. And so, you know, the one, nine, two, four complete, complete coin flips, man.
57:38I love the trade to go ahead and get rid of those guys.
57:43And so you, you, you could have, especially with FFPC with a short benches, you that's three.
57:49Of course you could have made any other trades.
57:52I understand that, but like, those are three rookies.
57:56You don't have to have on your team clogging your bench.
58:00If they don't work out. And, and then, you know, you, then you have to take drastic measures.
58:06You got JSN, you got 165 targets last year and you got the wide receiver one.
58:12And we do that. Shev did it last year, last week, the wide receiver one.
58:18And you're not, you're probably not getting the wide receiver one next year, but he's just as good as bet.
58:25They need to be top three, top five, you know?
58:29So like that, it could easily not repeat is the one, but we would all be shocked if he wasn't top five,
58:37because what has changed in that scenario for him, not to get another 160 targets.
58:42That's the, that's the thing. And I, I really, I mean, that's a really, that's a very nice price point to get in on some JSN.
58:51I traded Harvey Addison, a 27 person, 28 first to get JSN on team.
58:57I needed, I needed one more hammer. There you go.
59:00And so I was like, ah, did I do too much?
59:04But then you think about it, I'm not going to care once.
59:09No. For what he added to my lineup and what they added to my lineup.
59:14Like I lost, I got to go figure out a flex spot, right?
59:19Like I'm going to be, I'm going to be a little weak in one flex spot, but that's okay.
59:26Like it, again, if you got a hammer wide receiver, that's averaging 22 points a game, that kind of offsets some things you can deal with.
59:35You said it. You said it great last week.
59:38You said that we got the team that ran it the most and passed it to least passed it to this guy, 165 times.
59:47And so, yeah, if some things change, but what if they pass it a little bit more?
59:53You know what I mean? So I think you said it well last week and you made some really, really strong points
60:01when we were debating JSN versus, you know, neighbors and et cetera.
60:06So we don't, I don't really want to get, you know, too crazy down the rabbit hole again, so we can keep going and get some more questions.
60:16But I, um, I think you crushed it last week on the JSN argument.
60:21I mean, it's this dude. Ranalytics is hilarious. What?
60:24Oh man. Ranalytics. His shed won't stop with the dog.
60:28I mean, I can't. It's just, it's just there.
60:31We talked about God giving gifts, bro. All right.
60:34Just y'all see my question roster post in the podcast questions channel.
60:39Let me go over to the podcast. Big coat.
60:42Talk to us. Talk to us real quick. Let's go.
60:46We'll do this. And I'm going to pull up.
60:49I'm going to go look at his question real quick.
60:53All right. So this comment, dynasty, super flex 12 team, no tight end premium start nine and a half PPR contending Jonathan
61:01Taylor plus Travis, Travis Kelsey or Harry, Harold Fannin in a late 2027 first need help on this one.
61:08Or if I should go all in, um, without.
61:11So you're contending with Jonathan Taylor and Travis Kelsey or Fannin in a late first.
61:16I mean, I'm, I don't need any more information to tell you that I'm keeping Jonathan Taylor.
61:22Um, I've been, I've, I've, I've stated many times that I'm a Harold fan and fan fan fan fan.
61:29I hadn't stated it like that. Cause that tripped me up.
61:33I like Harold fan in a bunch and I love his outlook to gobble up targets and catches.
61:40I'm not giving, I'm not giving away Jonathan Taylor that easy.
61:44You know, I just, I can't, I, the 2027 class sounds so much fun.
61:49It says late first. If it said super early first, no matter what, then that might be a different story because I
61:57know Fannin is an asset and early 2027 first is an asset.
62:01There's too many top notch potential running backs and wide receivers to not have a good asset with that pick.
62:09Um, even if it said mid, I, Jonathan Taylor's an absolute stud and I'm not getting, I'm not letting him go off
62:17of a contending team for anything less than amazing.
62:20I mean, I tend to agree with you. It's really difficult to, if you're, if you're contending right now, this doesn't make any kind of sense.
62:29Like we're all, we're a feeder tape to the bicycle with Jonathan Taylor, with Travis Kelsey.
62:35I don't, there's no point one. You're not going to get any sort of meaningful return on Travis Kelsey.
62:42Nobody's giving you anything meaningful. Oh yeah. Plus he's worth more to you, your team than he is to anybody else because you're trying to contend.
62:52And it's short. I mean, it's, it's a, it's a short starting lineup, start nine.
62:57So you need as many book, like book them points in your, in your lineup as you can possibly get.
63:04And Travis Kelsey, if he's your tight end, he gives you some utility.
63:09To go try to make some moves somewhere else.
63:12And I mean, it's not tight end premium. So you're not, that's a, that's a fine option.
63:19If you're trying to, yeah. Yeah. Don't let Jonathan Taylor out of the door.
63:24If you're trying to put points on, onto your, onto the scoreboard.
63:28So that you can win a championship this year.
63:31Yeah. In that case, you know, you could go take some draft picks or something and pick up Harold fan.
63:39And even in non, in non tight end premium, I still value Harold fan.
63:44I'm just, he's there's not, you can't, I'm not, is there's not enough there to go up to get Jonathan Taylor.
63:51Yeah. No, no. I mean, if, if they both hit their ceiling outcomes, Harold Fannin could be 15 points a game and no tight end premium.
64:01Jonathan Taylor could be 24. Exactly. And with no tight end premium, it's going to be hard for Harold Fannin to be
64:0915 points a game, even as much. That's what I'm saying.
64:13Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So you're banking on the late first, doing a whole lot of like heavy lifting.
64:20And we just don't have, we just don't have, we just don't have the, the, the 27 class hasn't taken shape anywhere
64:28near enough, even though we think it's going to be real good for you to make a bet like that.
64:35Yeah. Let's talk about this one real quick. I can't, I can't, for some reason I can't get the, uh, can't pull
64:43the sleeper username in to look at that question, but we'll talk about it.
64:49We'll talk about it. And I'll pull it up on the, on the website here shortly, but let's, let's answer this one.
64:57He's been super, appreciate you being patient for us.
65:00MN Riz three. Uh, I know we had, I'd seen your, seen you ask a couple of questions.
65:06Um, but so it's super flex PPR 0.5, 0.25 tight end premium.
65:11So tiny premium, uh, no disrespect. It's just not a lot.
65:15Not that tiny, but yeah, it helps every little bit helps.
65:19Yeah. I mean, Hey, it's all worth it. Gentile, Porto, Marv for Loveland, Ted, Shuck in a second.
65:25Wowzers. Okay. I'm the Gentile side, but my running back room sucks.
65:30I have three 20, 27 first. How easy will it be to replace him?
65:35Also have Rome and burden too many bears. Question.
65:38First of all, that's a lot to unpack with those players.
65:42It's a big trade. Um, so let me just hit it.
65:46Let me hit it from the back. Right. Like we all, like we all want to.
65:52Wowzers. Okay. Every other mammal, every other mammal hits it from the back.
65:57That's why, you know, it just, it's just natural.
66:00It's just natural. Like going to the beach and seeing that water.
66:04Right. All right. Yeah. You can't have too many bears.
66:08You got transition. Matt. Yeah. Man said, man said, I got Roman burden.
66:13Do I have too many bears? Cause he's trying to get gente.
66:17You can't have too many bears this year. I'm going to just say it now.
66:22Cannot have too many bears. Um, you will be happy with your bears.
66:27Um, I, I think JT Laporta Marv. He's trying to trade away Colston, Loveland, Tet, Shuck in a 20, 27 second, because
66:35he said his running back room sucks. So I'm going to just tear it back.
66:41I'm going to tear it down. I'm going to tear it down.
66:45Obviously you got to move heaven and earth to get gente.
66:49I understand that. I don't think, I don't think trading away Loveland and Tet is a good, is a good idea.
66:57And I understand, I understand. I understand that you can't get gente without moving big time.
67:02He can. He 1000% can. I just think, I think you take the Laporta part.
67:08Cause he's trying to get gente, Laporta and Marv for Loveland, Tet, Shuck in a second.
67:14And he, you know, when I say it, this may be the offer on the table that he can accept and that
67:22he does, that he might want to counter. If I'm, if I, if I'm in this deal, I'm keeping my Colson Loveland and I'm scratching out Laporta.
67:32And Loveland, and then we can start back into conversation somehow.
67:36Um, obviously the Laporta from the other guy up to Loveland is making the deal for this guy, um, for the other, other party here.
67:45I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to wait.
67:48I'm not trading away. Colson Loveland right now. I'm not doing it.
67:52And, um, I just think you need to tear that thing down and rebuild.
67:57And I mean, not your team, like just rebuild the trade.
68:01You, you know, you got the first use some first to get gente.
68:06That's my, that was my, that was going to be my point.
68:11Tyler. It's, it's super. You're, you're, you're giving Shuck receiver that you like best or you that the good dude likes the best.
68:19And then figure out what little other micro transaction you have to make to get gente and give up one of the bears receivers.
68:28Well, I don't know if it's a micro transaction to get gente.
68:32Like I said, it'd probably be a macro transit.
68:35I mean, it's going to be a big one, but I'll have to do, but what I'm saying is he doesn't have
68:43to give up Loveland, Ted, Shuck and a second to do this.
68:48Right. I'm going, let me just scratch them all down.
68:51You won't gente. So I'm offering Shuck a second and two first, the latest two I got.
68:57Projected. You know what I mean? Um, I think, I don't even think I, you might have to do that.
69:05I mean, that's, that's rounds of stories. See, there's no other, there's no other quarterback in the, in the trade.
69:12So like, obviously he's trading away Shuck. So he's obviously got quarterbacks.
69:16Um, and there's value for Shuck for the other guy, or he wouldn't be into trade still.
69:23So I'm just going to wipe Loveland and Ted off and white LaPorta and Marv off.
69:28And say, cause I'm keeping Ted over Marv and I won't love one way more.
69:34And if we had this conversation last week, LaPorta could be back in neck in September, middle, October LaPorta is a stud.
69:42That's great. I love LaPorta. I'm a lions fan.
69:45He came, he helped me came out to gate rookie season set records.
69:50I understand it. He's got a back problem. She had put me on, on blast last week about neighbor's knee injury.
69:58Like a back is a back and NFL. Like, yes, I know Gronkowski had a back injury and he played, but plenty
70:06of guys are never the same with a back problem.
70:09Is it overblown? Maybe that's the thing. Remember we talked about expectations and all that stuff, you know, uh, George Pickens and versus St.
70:18Brown. Like right now, like LaPorta has a back injury and Loveland doesn't.
70:23So I guess they're not even in the same, you know, like if LaPorta comes back and plays a full healthy year
70:31and he looks like, you know, looks good. He doesn't look like a statue and he's not in the seamen aisle.
70:38Like that's, that's great. I want that more than anything, but I, we need to know more about LaPorta's back.
70:46I can't be given away. And this is dynasty, man.
70:49I can't be given away Loveland and Ted. And I, yes, I'd love to play.
70:55I'd love to have gente on my team, but I can't be taken on.
71:00I need to be buying LaPorta cheap. I'll buy LaPorta cheap, but I can't, I can't pay market value for LaPorta right now.
71:08That's the, that's the overarching point. You can't, I don't think you can, I don't, if it's not coming with some sort
71:16of 75 cents on a dollar type discount for LaPorta, I don't want to buy.
71:22Yeah. So send a man, Tyler, send him a quarterback, send him Tyler shop and two 27 first.
71:28If you have to, or start drawing other guys off your team.
71:33You know, and I mean, if you, if you had to send Ted and get more, that's not the worst thing in the world.
71:41I'm just taking, I'm taking Loveland out of the deal.
71:45Loveland's my, Loveland's on my untouchables list right now.
71:48Unless, unless I'm getting Bowers or McBride, unless I'm tearing out to Bowers and McBride.
71:54Obviously we started the show with tearing down from Bowers to Loveland and Tyler Warren, which I thought was fine, but I'm,
72:02I'm, I don't feel great about trading away Ted.
72:05Obviously more Marvin Harrison come out and be a stud, but I, you know, there's so much.
72:11The expectations were so high on Marvin. We didn't get it.
72:15There's so much. But hurtness going around and people, people jumping off the train, very upset.
72:21Can't believe I had butt hurtness and train that close together in the same conversation.
72:26That's you are, that's, you are pulling naughty work right there.
72:30That's naughty work. Uh, what you're doing with your words right now is what Beethoven did when he wrote the, all those symphonies and shit.
72:40It's, I mean, it's, it's truly astounding. No, but okay.
72:43So Beethoven was too astounding in a good way.
72:46And some of my, it's just, it's, it's astounding.
72:50I don't know. Hey, it's working. Okay. So here we are.
72:54So Gentie is at two Oh five. So we got one 12 or one 12, two 10, two nine, two nine, two six, two six.
73:03So we've pretty much crystallized him in the middle of the second round.
73:08Right. And then just around a difference between him and Loveland.
73:12Dude. Again, you're clicking on this website and you can click that to see where, where the data, the data that went
73:20into his three, three average for Colson level. And you can see where he was taken.
73:25Look at that. Somebody took them at two, at 2.01.
73:29That was probably me. That's probably me in a, in a mock draft.
73:34I could go back and find the mock draft where I doubled down.
73:38And I had the one 12 and I, I bang, banged out Colson Loveland, you know?
73:44So that's what I'm saying. Like the two, one value on Colson Loveland is way closer to legit value than the three, three.
73:53I, I fear that I agree with you. And that might be driving.
73:57That could be driving. That's, that's in the driver's seat of the trade right now.
74:03And then, so we move. So you're giving up basically two third round picks to move up to get gente.
74:10And then you're giving up a six because Tyler Shuck is down here.
74:15I just like putting, I just like putting the picture together of what.
74:20I love that. I love that. Yep. Yep. Let's see if we can get Shuck on here.
74:26Again, while you're doing this and mess it, clicking on the screen, there he is at six, six.
74:32And you highlighted his name. Like again, you're doing it with an ADP and average at Colson Loveland at three, three.
74:40And I'm telling you, he's a full round past it for me, you know?
74:45So like you're building the picture with the blocks, which is what I've been talking about on this show for 10 years
74:53is pulling up the blocks and put it together, put together the trade with the blocks.
74:59And you're doing that. And I love this illustration you're doing for me.
75:04Problem is the Colson level at three, three is to me too cheap.
75:08You know? Yeah. So let's bump that up. Let's just, so I'm, I'm trying to help him.
75:15Like why explain why we're both like, Hey, don't do this trade or building.
75:20In a different fashion. So just for you, big coat, just for you right here.
75:25So we move. How far up do you move Colson Loveland?
75:29Are we talking? I know you said two, one, but let's not do two, one here.
75:35Let's say he's after gente. Where after gente, would you slide him in?
75:40Would you slide him in where Jeremiah love is?
75:43Justin Herbert, CD lamb. Sure. Right. There's anywhere in there.
75:47Yeah, it's fine. All right. Two Oh nine. So two Oh nine plus three Oh four plus six, six plus a 27 second for two, five.
75:56And I hope y'all are keeping track at home.
75:59Cause I'm not going to be able to just remember all that.
76:04And then wherever Marv's at, you gotta be below.
76:07Gotta be too far down to find Marv. Tyler Shulk right there in the six.
76:12Where you see him there? Where is he at?
76:16Oh, there he is. Tyler Shulk, six, six, six, 10.
76:19So two, five, six, six, six, 10. Where's Marvin Harrison Jr.
76:23At and Marv is scroll up one. He's gotta be one.
76:27He's gotta be up there. No, I think he's down brother.
76:31Oh, there he is. Five, 12. Okay. Five, 12, six, six, six, 10.
76:36Right. So, so let me just say this, uh, in dynasty, this is the beauty of it.
76:42We talk about talking to the new players and we talk about talking to the guys that's been doing this for a long time.
76:51The beauty of this is Chev and I just spent 10 minutes talking about Colson Loveland and the tip side of this
76:59thing and how they should be quote unquote off limits.
77:03But you can't go after Gentile without spending and swinging the bat.
77:07You got to swing for a home run. If you're trying to get Gentile, all that, all the, everything we said holds.
77:15In dynasty, this time next year, Laporte is back.
77:18No problem. Marvin Harrison, junior stud, Gentile, RB one.
77:22Like you see what I'm saying? Chef in dynasty, you very rarely can find a trade that some two people really agree on both sides.
77:31Hey, I want to give this and I want to take that.
77:35I, I agree to give this player and in return for those players, you very rarely find something that is a hundred percent.
77:43No doubt about it. A bad deal. And because I've been around the block, I had a dynasty.
77:50I had a dynasty league fall apart due to an Adrian Peterson trade 15 years ago.
77:56And guess what? A year later, those three dudes that were got together and were crying about the Adrian Peterson trade were
78:04nowhere, not, not to be heard from because the other side of the trade was obvious.
78:10And they made such a stink about the Adrian Peterson side of the trade, which I was getting Adrian Peterson.
78:17And what I gave away a year later, and I tried to, you know, make my case for why this was a fair enough deal.
78:26And you never know how things are going to work out a year later.
78:31Those guys did nothing to say. And the, and the Lee and, and a couple of the guys were just like new
78:39to dynasty and they were not in for the drama.
78:43And they were like, I can't, I don't know why we're arguing so much about fantasy football here.
78:49And the other guys were new enough to dynasty to not understand.
78:54And how these trades could play out in 24 months, 12 months, three weeks.
78:59And they were all up in arms and they tore the league apart.
79:04And that was wild. So that was a big lesson for me.
79:0815. I've carried it with me. Like every time I see a bad trade that I think is bad, I'm like, well,
79:16I've seen it before that it played, you know, and me and Casey talked last year about a couple of different trades that came back around.
79:25And like, sometimes the same exact trade, you look at it in history at the calendar week two, you lost it week four.
79:34You won the trade week 10. You lost it again.
79:37Next year you won the trade again. And it goes back and forth, just like the stock market up and down, up and down.
79:46Yeah. I mean, that's the, that's the, the beautiful part about it is a trade can look completely lopsided.
79:53And we're not saying, we're not saying the whole reason that we have all these tools.
79:59And if you haven't go over to the FF dynasty.com dynasty tender, you know, powered by the power throuple you, you know,
80:07we got all our expert rankings and all that stuff over there and several different, like several different tools and everything you
80:15could possibly imagine to try to help you equip you with as much information as possible so that you don't make mistakes.
80:23Or at least you have as much information as possible when you're making these decisions, because you don't want to find something
80:31else out or be privy to a different angle that you didn't have before the trade.
80:37Because if you're that guy, you're going to be the sucker that everybody's trading with your league.
80:43And that's the worst place to be. But that's the type of dude who big co's in his inbox asking him how
80:51he's doing, buying them coffee, doing all kinds of stuff just to try to get, just to smooth over some deals.
80:59Don't lie. Like you don't do it. I know you do.
81:03When you see a trade go down and then you, when you see a guy make a trade and you're like, there's
81:11nothing that makes me happier when I see a good dynasty trade and I like both sides.
81:17I just, I love it. And that, and that doesn't make me go look at the teams, but when I see a
81:25dynasty trade go down and I'm not excited and I'm like, dude, that guy right there, he's off.
81:31He's, he's, he's making some moves and he's being aggressive and he shot his shot.
81:37And I'm not exactly thinking that my values line up with his.
81:41So I'm gonna go look at his team and see if I need to throw him a trade, you know?
81:48And then on the other side, there's a guy in one of, in a couple of our leagues, rookie, he hangs out with us.
81:57I think it's rookie 86, but rookie something, uh, in FFD five, you just got cam war from him and he made,
82:05he made a couple of big deals this week.
82:08And so then I'm like, all right, what is it?
82:12And he's selling everything for draft picks. He's rebuilding.
82:15He's selling for draft picks, but he's not selling cheap.
82:19He's just selling. So I'm like, all right, I saw him make two big deals.
82:24He traded away Justin Jefferson. He traded you cam ward.
82:28And I'm like, all right, well, who's he got?
82:31I got some picks. Let me go see what he's got.
82:35And he's that, you know, he's got JSN and not a whole lot else.
82:40That's why he's rebuilding. And, um, so I couldn't come to a deal with him on Jason.
82:47He just traded Scott a boo. Um, like that was a gentleman's reversal.
82:51Uh, there was a, so as a, and a gentleman's reversal, here we go.
82:56Talking about it live right here, guys. Scott got traded for a 20, 27 first, the guy that traded, the 20, 27 first away.
83:05As soon as it happened goes, Oh shit. I thought that was my 20, 26 first.
83:11And the guy traded back and he said, all right, let's swap it back out.
83:16And I'll, I'll trade him again. You know? So gentleman's reversal happened.
83:21Um, that was cool to see. Um, but anyway, I looked at his team and I, you know, I said, I made him an offer for JSN.
83:31Wasn't good enough for him. He made me an offer back to get JSN way too much, way too rich for my blood.
83:39And, um, and then we go from there. I haven't made a deal with it, but I had to check in.
83:47Like when you see somebody making moves, you got to ring the doorbell, bro.
83:52You got to call that phone up. You got to shoot a text out.
83:57You got to buy a coffee. Like chef said, if you're not, you're not making moves and you don't have to go trade.
84:05You don't have to make seven offers to every single player in the league.
84:10If you have one league, yes, you should be doing that.
84:14Cause that's the fun of it. But when you get, you know, when you got 20 leagues, like I do, you're not
84:22going to be able to pump out volume trades anymore.
84:26But when somebody puts a note in the league or there's a new team in the league, Hey guys, glad to be here.
84:34Took over this orphan. And if I had to make some moves and make this team my own, if you don't send
84:42that dude a message and be like, Hey yo, who on my team do you like, or who on your team?
84:50Are you trying to, are you going to move first?
84:54What you looking at, what you trying to do?
84:57If you don't send that message or send a trade offer to that guy, somebody else is somebody else.
85:04Somebody, somebody's coming in, just taking your temperature. I need to see, I need to see what I'm dealing with here.
85:12I don't have to come in. I don't have to come in hot.
85:16I just want to see. That's right. What your temperature is.
85:20See what you got excited. Are you to make deal?
85:24What are you, what, what type of rebuilder are you trying to, are you trying to accomplish it?
85:30Everybody's got different values. And so like, that's, you just, Hey, there's a combination out there for us to make a trade.
85:38We don't know what it is right now. Do you want my Brian Thomas or do I want your lab McConkie?
85:46So we got lab versus BTJ on this comment here.
85:50Sheev lad versus BTJ. Colin says, uh, or call on or whatever at AO cone says lad versus BTJ.
85:57They both had bad year to slumps and were very disappointing.
86:01Which one would you take the shot on? What you got shift?
86:05Easily. La Dede, La Darius. Boom. Easily lad McConkie says.
86:09Well, I mean, here's, here's the problem. What do we, what do there's so much positive signal for what lad McConkie has
86:17going on with Mike McDaniel, with Justin Herbert. And that's not to say that we're not excited about Trevor Lawrence.
86:24We've just seen Justin Herbert support a healthy fantasy ecosystem where you're pumping out, you're pumping out volume, right?
86:31We've seen lab McConkie be top 15. We've seen Brian Thomas jr.
86:35Be top four, right? Or whatever. This is rookie year.
86:39Right. But now there's a bunch of new sheriffs in town.
86:43They gave one that we've seen both of them be kind of disappointing, right?
86:48There's no, there's no two ways about that. He said, very, yeah, he said very disappointing.
86:54And, but with BTJ, there's a different level of concern because they paid Jacoby Myers.
86:59Travis Hunter was very clearly, very, very clearly, you know, starting to assert himself before he got hurt.
87:06And then on top of that, then once he's hurt, that opens up an opportunity for Parker Washington.
87:12Parker Washington looked phenomenal the last three weeks of the season.
87:16And he's the, I said it, I've said it so many different times, but I, there's a world where Parker Washington just becomes a runaway wide receiver.
87:26One, he's basically like Florida, Florida man version of Amon-Ra St.
87:30Brown Brown, just because you can, there's so much utility in what he can do as a punt, like a guy who had a punt returner background.
87:40And you're now you're able to just throw him the ball in space.
87:45And he's generating seven, eight, nine yards. He's Luther burden after the catch.
87:49He's just, just creating yak and creating explosives for an offense.
87:53And they were doing this in games. It's not like with Brian Thomas jr.
87:59Where they had, you know, they're in garbage time.
88:02They had to do this to win playoff games.
88:05Like they had to, they had, they got to host a playoff game.
88:10Now they lost, but Parker Washington played well there also.
88:14And he was a part of a winning formula for a team.
88:18And I don't, when that happens, it's hard for me to say, Hey, I'm just gonna, we're, we're not going to do that.
88:26One thing that was helping us win a whole bunch.
88:30So I, I like that part of a winning formula.
88:34That sounds good. Keep going. I'm going to jump in.
88:37Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. So, so it's really, it's really difficult for me.
88:43And I have, I have lad several rounds ahead.
88:46Rounds. Wow. Okay. So, yeah. So I'm lacking context on the question because the guy says, which one would you take a shot on?
88:55That's a one for one question. You know, are we in a startup draft?
89:00Because I got many options. You know what I mean?
89:03So like, I don't have to just draft. That lad versus BTJ.
89:08If I'm going to start up draft and I feel like I'm stuck, I might be taking a quarterback right there.
89:15You know, lad versus BTJ. Well, did Jordan love fall?
89:19You know what I mean? So like there, there, I need context on the question because if it's just one or the
89:27other and you're like, Hey, I got lad and my buddy's got BTJ and he wants to trade me.
89:34Now we can have a one for one discussion.
89:37But like, if I got to put myself in that box, like you said, because everything's going on with the chargers lad seems much safer.
89:46Uh, for an, like the, the Jaguars offense would Liam Cohen and everything.
89:51Like I see the path to higher, you know, volume.
89:55I see the path to more first downs and I see the, I see the path for Trevor Lawrence to grow and
90:03take them to, uh, team totals punt, uh, touchdown scored situation where everybody's scoring more fantasy points.
90:09Cause the team is scoring more points offensively and they're a better offensive team.
90:14I can see that happening. We expect that out of the chargers right now.
90:19You know what I mean? So like, we hope it happens for Brian Thomas and the Jags.
90:25We are almost certain that would Mike McDaniels going over to the chargers and for all intents and purposes, a much more successful, quarterback consistently.
90:34And Justin Herbert, then Trevor Lawrence has been so far.
90:38I know Trevor Lawrence got, I know Trevor Lawrence got a bad shake the way he started his career with coaches and
90:46everything that happened over Meyer, yada, yada. I know it.
90:50I know he didn't start out like he should have.
90:53And that's what happens a lot of times with the first pick in the draft.
90:59You go to the worst teams. Jags are the Jacks, but you know, what's the chargers have going on.
91:06It could be a whole nother level than what the Jags have going on and everything you said about the Jack, the wide receiver competition in Jacksonville holds.
91:16I do think they should for, to help them, the winning formula for the Jags.
91:21I think that should highly involve Brian Thomas jr.
91:25You're not wrong. A lot of that rookie year stuff down the stretch was garbage time.
91:30You're not wrong. And you, and most, and I haven't heard that called out by a lot of people.
91:37Um, I just think that the Jags would be a better team.
91:42If Brian Thomas jr. Was a threat, you know, he's, it doesn't make sense.
91:47A talented wide receiver. Yes. You know, so they need to make him a threat.
91:52Does it, or does it all click up here?
91:56And I'm podcasters. I'm pointing to my head. Like, does Brian Thomas want to be a demon or, you know, did he get the drops last year?
92:05That did the, did the trade for the cornerback slash wide receiver getting his head?
92:11Like, you know, like, I don't, not exactly sure what happened to Brian Thomas and the Jags last year.
92:18I don't. And then the trade talk, hell, he could still get traded.
92:22Right. So. Vlad McConkie in that question is so much safer right now, but I don't think I do.
92:29I can get along with the upside. I've seen Wes Welker, bro.
92:34I've seen Julian. I've seen those little scat wide receivers.
92:37Those little white boys catch a whole ton of PPR points, bro.
92:4210 years ago. I took 10 years ago. I took Emmanuel Sanders and, and, Wes Welker back to back in a draft.
92:50I was on the turn. And I mean, three rounds above consensus.
92:54And when I did my, everybody in the room was like, damn, I wanted that guy.
93:00Damn. I wanted that guy. You know what I mean?
93:04I just went and got my, I got, I just put two, I put 200 catches on my team.
93:11Right. So. I know the value of what lab McConkie can represent.
93:15That being said, Brian Thomas's ceiling is higher. You can't tell me not.
93:20Right. And I just, I, I know that McConkie is underrated and I know he's way better of an athlete than we
93:28get, give him credit for because of sneaky athletic out there.
93:32He's way, he's way sneakier than sneaky athletic. No, I know.
93:36I know that he's, he's way better than sneaky athletic.
93:39Um, but that being said, like what Brian Thomas is capable of physically is a whole nother level.
93:46Will it happen? I don't know. There's your question marks.
93:49There's your expectations. There's your volatility. I got to jump off here real soon.
93:55I got five more minutes for you, bro. Oh yeah.
93:58All right. Let's get a couple of swipes in before we get you out of here.
94:04All right. Ladder Travion. Go quick. Travion. I'm a Travion guy.
94:08All right. Ladder, Ladder Quinchon. Without knowing the ADP right off top.
94:12I'm to me, I would, if I didn't have any other moves to make, I won't Quinchon, but I understand if Ladd
94:20is much higher in the ADP, that's fine. But I'm a Quinchon guy too.
94:26Back to back. I think they are back to back at ADP.
94:30Yeah. 51. I'm taking Judkins, man. I think Judkins is a difference maker.
94:35I think so too. All right. That's going to be general.
94:39All right. Jared Goff. There's basically three rounds of difference there.
94:43We'll go Ladd. All right. CMC. We'll go Ladd.
94:46Oh, Marv. Or Ladd. 2024. Showdown. Go, Co. If I had to just pick one year and it was redraft, it's Ladd McConkie all day long.
94:55But with being dynasty, I, I'm fine. If you want to take Marv, because what it could turn into be Brett, Marv,
95:03Marv needs his daddy's quarterback to come out and play.
95:07Marv needs to be in a Peyton Manning offense where it's on time.
95:12And he's complete opposite of what he had with Kyler Murray.
95:16Marvin Harrison Jr. needs to play in with, with Peyton Manning where the ball snapped.
95:21There's a three or five step drop. The ball's out.
95:25Marvin Harrison's where he's supposed to be. The ball's where he's supposed to be.
95:30Bang. Breeze. All right. Yeah. That's pretty easy. Breeze over Ladd.
95:34Jalen Waddle. What are we doing? Oh, golly. I mean, it's a spot difference in ADP.
95:40Ladd's above him by two rounds, I assume. Right?
95:43Absolutely. It's probably, I mean, it's Ladd for dynasty, but it could be easily Jalen Waddle.
95:49I like Jalen Waddle. Ladd or Nico? Nico. Nico, two spots.
95:53You ain't gonna go catch me sleeping on Nico.
95:56All right. Chase Brown or Ladd? It's gotta be, it's gotta be Ladd for dynasty, but it's Chase Brown.
96:03Sexy Chase Brown. All right. Carnell Tate or Ladd?
96:06Carnell Tate. Carnell Tate all day long. I like hearing that.
96:10Thanks, Cole. Rome with Dunze, Ladd McConkie. Rome, seven spots.
96:14It's gotta, it's probably, it's gotta be Rome. It's gotta be Rome, but I don't mind if you want to take the sure thing.
96:23Like I, I can't imagine Ladd not getting consistent targets every week.
96:27I can see how Rome finds his way on the, he's not going to be the easy button for the bears.
96:35He's not going to be running the easy routes.
96:38Like Colson Loveland and Luther Burden are the easy button for, for Caleb Williams.
96:43And Rome's going to be doing big boy stuff.
96:46And it could, I can see where the week to week consistency can be aggravating this year for Rome.
96:53That's the biggest issue. So, I mean, I'm with you.
96:57We gotta go. We gotta go Ladd. All right, I'm gonna get you out of here on this one.
97:04Ladd or Bucky Irving? It's Ladd, but if Bucky Irving's right, and it, the things are like, they supposed to be, the
97:12Bucky Irving, the thing about Bucky Irving is his rookie season, the Bucks are trying to make the playoffs.
97:19And when they needed it against the Panthers in division, down the stretch, they, things weren't going their way.
97:26They had some turnovers. They gave it to Buck.
97:29I mean, I went and charted this in a game for a discussion.
97:34Me and Casey had last off season. It was running back.
97:38It was running, brush and play. Bucky Irving, Bucky Irving, Bucky Irving, pass play, Bucky Irving, you know, like he, what he
97:46was doing between the tackles was wild his rookie year.
97:49And obviously we were let down last year. And if we weren't let down last year, wouldn't even be a question.
97:57Bucky, I'm going to be a second round startup pick right now.
98:01Early third, you know, I get, you know, that first two rounds, I get it is full of white, it, but you
98:09know, wide receivers and quarterbacks and tight end premium guy, you know, there's not too many spaces in there for running backs
98:17and dynasty, but Bucky Irving would be way up on that list.
98:22If he didn't let us down last year, and I think the ability is there.
98:27And the Dave Canales, uh, leftovers of that running back room, you know, it's already just cleared out.
98:34David now has left Liam Cole left. It's like, what's going on now?
98:38Like it, Bucky Irving can be an absolute stud in this league.
98:43I've, I've seen him do it in a short, you know, window sample size.
98:48It isn't big enough for some people, but I'm, I'm, yeah, I mean, I think that's the, I think that's the biggest,
98:56biggest thing is, you know, we have some concerns about the way that the way that we think that it should go.
99:04And the issue is that now we have way more questions than answers.
99:09With Bucky. And you just got to get them back out on the football field, see him healthy again.
99:16If he's healthy, we think he's going to do really cool stuff.
99:20Because I know you got to go. I'm going to get out of here as well.
99:26If you haven't go check out the FF dynasty.com.
99:29Crowdsource rankings, trade calculator, trade database, port your leagues in.
99:33It gives you, you know, it gives you your status, your team status in the league, ranked by contenders, rebuilders, pleasurable.
99:40What is good. That's considered a rebuilder. And I mean, the trade calculator is incredible.
99:46We've been trying to help fine tune that thing.
99:49And pretty soon the redraft stuff will be here.
99:52And you'll see me way more over there during the season.
99:56But hopefully I can do a little bit more during the season with y'all.
100:01Cause that's always fun discussion. I want to like yell at both of you at certain points.
100:08So yeah, go check out all that stuff. And thank you for tuning in.
100:13If you did, sorry, I didn't get to answer as many questions as I thought, but we had a good time.
100:20Hopefully you learned something. I know I did. So what had happened was until next Casey, Casey's usually hitting the buttons and
100:28it's a lot harder than it looks on TV y'all.
100:32There's a lot of buttons to be pushing right now.
100:36Shev's got like seven screens open and it's a lot harder than it looks.
100:41So if you put in questions and you didn't get answered, hit them back next week.
100:47And if they're, and if they're a big deal, as far as like trades and your leagues right now, go to the discord and that's what that's for.
100:57Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all. Hey, I want to thank you for being part of this broadcast.
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