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0:50What is good. We're back. And we have week one almost totally in the books.
0:54We have one more to go tonight. By the time you're seeing this, it'll probably be off and running.
1:00We've got Chiefs and Broncos tonight of course, but we're back with week one.
1:04We got Stan. How you doing, man? We're excited to have you in for the season.
1:08Hey, I'm happy to be here, man. I'm just so glad we got football back on our TVs.
1:13got my Seattle Seahawks coming out with a W week one, kicking us off, even with Drew Locke stepping in at the backup position.
1:20So, you know, I think it's going to take a lot to take me down right now.
1:25Yeah. Well, it was sure was nice watching Sunday with I'm a Niners guy.
1:29You're a Seahawks guy, both teams with W's just sitting around watching everybody else scramble around, worry about injuries.
1:35But it was nice getting an early dub there, but onto week two for those teams.
1:39And so we're going to go through, we've got a good show for you.
1:43We're going to do a little injury report. Then we're going to talk a little buy, sell fact, fiction, panic, not panic,
1:50kind of however you want to frame it. And then we'll end with a little bit of rookie and second year talk,
1:56as well as kind of some backfield ambiguity or backfield usage, if you will.
2:00So packed show today, we're going to try to keep it moving, keep running through it.
2:05And again, we've got Stan from a dynasty price check joining us all season long.
2:09Right. Hell yeah, man. Stoked to be here. And you know what?
2:12I think we can settle it right now, just on air.
2:16You know, Niners Seahawks, definitely a good rivalry, but I think we can collectively come together against the quote unquote, super team Rams that have already lost.
2:23Miles Garrett are Oh, and one while the Cardinals are wanting to know.
2:27So Casey, you and I are in Alliance for now.
2:30All right. I hope that Seahawks Niners in that NFC championship this year.
2:34All right, my friend, I would, I would, I would very much enjoy that.
2:38You know, it was nice, nice to go in a foreign country week one, play a division rival and win.
2:44And I don't know how the NFL got away with that, but anyway, let's get into the injuries real quick.
2:49We'll try to run through them. I know a lot of you guys already know, but we'll kind of just give our
2:56thoughts on, on what the, you know, how that reverbed through their, their rooms here.
3:00We'll start off with Zay flowers, have half of a game, huge game five for one 50.
3:05We'll talk about Zay a little later. Looks like he is potentially going to miss week next week for the latest report.
3:11I just saw from Schefter. What does that do for this team?
3:15Again, another person on the injury report. We'll just cross him off right now is, is Jacoby lane also injured.
3:20So this is getting thinner and thinner. So how do we see that reverberating around that room there?
3:26Yeah. I mean, it's a serious bummer. I've been a huge Jacoby lane guy and you know, the minute that touchdown got
3:32called back, if anyone was watching, you know, I was sad.
3:35I thought we had the early breakout for Jacoby lane right there.
3:39And now we're going to have to put it on pause for a quick minute.
3:43I think in the immediate case, we got to look at two places.
3:47One, Derek Henry. He ate all over the map this weekend.
3:50Age is not a factor for the King. It seems, but outside of that, I think we got to look at Mark
3:56Andrews, you know, a guy that kind of underperformed in week one by my anticipation.
4:00I was hoping we got some red zone usage from him right out of the gate here.
4:05Back to basics for Lamar, but you know, Zay was going too hard and, and Derek Henry was, was taking all those valuable touches.
4:12Lamar was running everywhere, but hopefully Mark Andrews is a, is a tight end one the next few weeks without Zay flowers in the building.
4:19Yeah. I would skeptically look at, at potentially Tez Walker as being the guy who maybe steps up here, but I wouldn't
4:26be super excited to start any receiver really in that room, unless you absolutely were in shambles already.
4:31But I, Derek Henry and, and the tight end would be the only way I'd want to lean there.
4:36Um, moving on Kyler concussion. Obviously, you know, that, that wasn't great to see.
4:40Uh, looks like he's, I would assume going to miss a second game, but you know, sometimes, you know, we don't wear assumptions land us.
4:48Um, but whence came in there and played fine.
4:50And again, a division rival game and, and at least did what he was supposed to do and fed Justin Jefferson.
4:56Um, as far as that room goes, I mean, you're starting Justin Jefferson next week.
5:01Uh, but would you be comfortable starting anybody else?
5:03If Kyler is not rolling? No, unfortunately not. And for those of you that watch that game, was that just such a weird game?
5:10You had like that one drive that was all penalties, just took the Vikings straight down the field.
5:15And then you had an Aaron Jones touchdown. And then you had a Jordan Mason touchdown in the box score actually looks
5:22pretty stomachable for both those guys, because of that.
5:24But outside of that, their run game was abysmal and I don't really want any part of it.
5:29I didn't want any part of it going into the season.
5:33I don't now. Um, no Casey, I'll keep this one short.
5:36Justin Jefferson. And that's it. I don't think Jordan Edison is going to be a factor with Carson Wentz, uh, on the field.
5:42Yeah. Uh, lad looks like he's going to miss potentially a game or two here, uh, sort of in the flowers, not
5:49going to, maybe not for long, but maybe in the interim, we're going to, we're going to miss a little bit of
5:55time, uh, looking at the kind of the target distribution there.
5:58Um, you know, Trey Harris was at 22% target share, uh, Quinton Johnson, 18, David Njoku, 18.
6:03So it seems like you could kind of just shift downshift, uh, to, to, I'd be fine with playing Trey Harris.
6:09I'm fine with playing Quinton Johnson. Fine. You know, even David Njoku seems like he's going to be a startable asset here for a bit.
6:16Any, anything that you see differently there as far as moving forward with the Chargers rotation?
6:21No, I mean, I'm just really hoping Casey that they get the Raiders next week.
6:25Uh, I I'm hoping the Chargers look like a formidable offense.
6:28I was very disappointed with what I saw from them.
6:31Week one. I know all the hype was behind the new OC hire and, you know, McDaniel comes to town.
6:37Everyone's excited. Wheels up for Hampton. Uh, Justin Herbert looked a little confused.
6:41Uh, Hampton didn't look so great. So, Hey, let's just hope the Chargers can write the ship going into week two.
6:47Yeah. I would say flat would be what, what I would describe the Chargers as.
6:51And sometimes it's, you know, you were way up here.
6:54You got a little humbled. Maybe, maybe this next week, um, they start to figure things out.
6:59But again, I don't, I don't mind starting any of those next, next up guys, much different than the Raven situation.
7:05Uh, I feel there. Um, then we come to BTJ.
7:08Looks like he's going to be okay. They're just going to say non-contact maybe through practice here.
7:13Um, but I think we're firing up Jacoby and Parker Washington if, if, if need be any, which way anyway.
7:19So. Absolutely. I'm with you there. I liked what I saw from Parker Washington for sure.
7:23We'll cover him a little bit in this show, but, Jacoby Myers.
7:27Yeah, absolutely. Expect him to get some involvement here.
7:29You saw him catch the touchdown pass. So, you know, I think, feeling good about flexing Jacoby next week.
7:35Yeah. Some other ones that probably aren't super consequential right now.
7:38We got Omar Cooper with a high ankle. We got Chig with a hamstring.
7:42You know, I don't know that that changes a whole lot of what I was doing with either one of those teams
7:48as far as the commanders or the jets are concerned.
7:51Nope. Nope. Nothing there. Nothing there. I mean, at this point it's, it's all eyes on the Seattle Seahawks going to Arizona
7:57this week, uh, where drew locks can all the, and the Cardinals actually look like, uh, not really too much of a, of a pushover.
8:05So that should be an interesting one. I mean, that being said, I actually don't have too big of a problem, uh, streaming drew lock this week.
8:12If you're super quarterback needy, still gave you 16 points, uh, in a game where the Seahawks didn't even score more than 13 real life points.
8:20So I think, uh, I feel all right about that one, but yeah, it looks like Sam Darnold.
8:25I don't expect him for, for a couple of weeks as well here.
8:29Yeah. It seems like he's, I saw four second opinions on Darnold, which is not, not the best signal, but Hey, let's,
8:35let's get all, let's check all our, uh, down all our eyes and cross all our T's there.
8:40Um, AJ Brown. And when you mentioned Darnold, he's out, um, we had AJ Brown in that same game.
8:46He's got an ankle. He looks like he's going to maybe miss six games.
8:50Uh, we saw Romeo dub really end up with a goose egg there.
8:54How does this affect the Patriots receiving room with AJ Brown out?
8:57Yeah. I mean, the first place we got to look last time I was on this show with you guys, we were
9:03talking about a little bit of Kyle Williams action.
9:06And I think he's going to step in and play a little bit of the X while AJ Brown's out here.
9:12Um, and so maybe you're, you have one final chance here to send some third round picks out and try to bring
9:18Kyle Williams in before you get a real, a good look at him outside of that.
9:23I do think Matt Collins will be worked into the mix a bit here.
9:27Drew, uh, Drake may seems to trust him to some degree.
9:30I think Hunter Henry will get a nice uptick here.
9:33I, we saw him be a safety blanket for may often last year.
9:37And so I think that's, that's one to keep our eyes on from a, from a tight end department.
9:42And then finally, you know, the Romeo Dobbs thing is interesting.
9:45He looked abysmal, right? I mean, he had that drop wide open in space.
9:49He did nothing for you. Put up a goose egg, but what we always got to remember, Casey is this guy, this
9:56man's already been paid and they got no option, but to throw to him now.
10:00So I think if you can buy the dip to some degree, you might get a few flex worthy weeks out of Romeo Dobbs here.
10:07And we, we've seen better days from him in green Bay.
10:10I'm not entirely worried that this is who he is now, but definitely a down game.
10:15Yeah. I think he can come in and give you a wide receiver, two wide receiver, three numbers.
10:20I think we'll see some, some bounce back there for sure.
10:23They played a ton of 11 against Seattle. There's almost, uh, almost 60% of 11 for them.
10:28And pop Douglas was pretty heavily involved. It seemed like, uh, this year who was somebody who I'd consistently been beating the
10:35drum for, and then kind of was like, all right, well, I guess this is done now that we've made all this commotion.
10:41And then they bring in AJ Brown, they bring in Romeo Dobbs.
10:45And all of a sudden pop Douglas, uh, calls some attention.
10:48So a little bit of interesting there if you're really down in the dumps, but probably at this point, we haven't had any crazy significant injuries.
10:55You should be able to get by without playing somebody like a pop Douglas right now.
11:00So, um, and then stripling would probably be the last injury on here to of note.
11:05Uh, he's going to miss at least four games.
11:07It seems, um, as long as Mike Evans is healthy, you're obviously rolling him out, but this, I think this makes Debo very interesting for the foreseeable future.
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12:36I mean, he's a guy that I've already, I've already admitted my wrongs here.
12:40I was disrespecting a bit in the off season.
12:43I kind of had written him off as not very productive of a fantasy asset for the future, but he comes in
12:49and gives you over 15 points in week one and looks pretty decent doing it.
12:53Gets some opportunities out of the backfield here. And like you said, with dribbling out, it looks like Debo is going to,
12:59going to get some pretty heavy usage here. So I would say flex opportunity, wide receiver three opportunity for Debo Samuel in the immediate.
13:06Absolutely. Yeah. And he looks, he looks explosive again.
13:09Like he doesn't look like he's stuck in the mud.
13:12He had a good kickoff return. He had a good adjustment on a, on a touchdown catch.
13:17There has some, you know, it's not like he's brand new over there either.
13:21Obviously been with Purdy before. So, um, nice reunion there.
13:24And it looks like it's going to be fun for at least a couple of weeks.
13:28Hopefully those guys can stay healthy. Um, and that can be a, continue to be a fun watch.
13:33Bowers with the meniscus trim potentially back next week, but you know, not, not a whole lot to say there.
13:39Yeah. Yeah. No, just a Michael Myers season in the main, in the meantime.
13:43Yeah. Let's go. All right. Let's jump to the main segment of the show.
13:47Uh, we're calling it factor fiction, but you could be labeling this as a buy sell or, um, panic, not panic, um, overreaction or not overreaction.
13:55So, we got a bunch of questions talking about highlighting all the different things that went on throughout week one.
14:01Obviously we can't touch on every single game, every single thing.
14:04We did a Sunday night recap on the, uh, pleasure chest going through most of the games while watching the game.
14:10So if you haven't go check that out, um, but let's jump into it off the rip here, Stan Parker, Washington will
14:16finish as a wide receiver one this season. I mean, it's hard to say no after what we saw yesterday, right?
14:22I mean, five catches, 83 yards, a tutty looked good doing it.
14:26I mean, that diving catch was definitely something to be a witness to and, and definitely got all the folks that have
14:32been beating the Parker Washington drum up on their feet and chanting on Twitter.
14:36I I've already seen the army go to go to work with their fingers on that app, but I think, uh, I
14:42think, yeah, I, at this point I would be looking at Parker Washington as a top 20 option in fantasy right now.
14:49Uh, I don't know if I'm ready to put them into a top 12 finish conversation, but Hey, Trevor Lawrence was wildly efficient, right?
14:56Absolutely. Wildly efficient. I mean, 18 of 23, 245 yards and four touchdowns.
14:59And for my non math majors out there. Okay.
15:02That's roughly a touchdown. Every six passing attempts that Trevor Lawrence had in that game.
15:06That is incredible. Right? And so when you talk about efficiency, you love what you're seeing out of that.
15:12Now we got to take it with a brain of salt.
15:15Or a grain of salt Casey. Uh, that is, uh, that is the Cleveland Browns we're talking about here and they looked
15:21pretty horrible, but, um, yeah, I think, uh, for now, uh, the Parker Washington believers have some wind behind their sales and
15:28I will lock and load him for a top 20 finish here.
15:31Yeah. I mean, I would, I could, you know, I could, I could be in the, in the ballpark of saying, Hey,
15:37maybe this is even going to be more like a top 12 finish for Parker Washington.
15:42If things remain the same, BTJ already missing a little bit of time.
15:46If we go look at the target share percentages here, obviously week one.
15:49So, you know, a lot of lying going on as far as what we're seeing from these kinds of things in week
15:56one, but 26.1% just almost doubled everybody else on the team, uh, for the Jacksonville Jaguars there.
16:01And, you know, like you said, taking it with a grain of salt of being the Browns just got put back on
16:07their heels and never really recovered from, you know, you think this defense still can be at least an average to above
16:13average defense, but it did not look so week one, or maybe Jacksonville is just picking right up where they left off.
16:20Cause there was a little bit of question of this has been Jacksonville and Jacksonville was synonymous sort of with Cleveland for
16:26a little while, um, as far as organizationally. And now that seems that page has been turned that the, the, uh, narrative
16:32off of Trevor Lawrence has been seemingly put to rest at least for a little while.
16:37Um, cause there was a lot of people saying that, Hey, he might not even be a starter in this league.
16:43Um, and, and here we are, what a performance.
16:46Um, but Parker Washington, somebody who I, I, at this point have to say, like you said, top 20 seems like very, very likely.
16:52Yeah. And top, top 12 seems, um, you know, like a real possibility.
16:56With that being said, and we'll do a whole lot more of market and buy sell week.
17:01One's a tough one. I don't like to move any rankings around or do anything crazy after week one, but if we
17:07were in a buy sell mode for this particular one, cause I think this is a juicy one.
17:13What side of the fence would you just generally land on with Parker Washington?
17:17I think this is a very difficult question because it's a hundred percent league economy dependent and how savvy your league mates are.
17:23Right. Like, I mean, I know we, uh, can laugh at community rankings as much as anybody else.
17:28And I do on a consistent basis, but just for the live look, um, he's currently wide receiver 28 on community rankings,
17:35right now, based off what you and I were just saying, that seems far too low.
17:39So if you can get them at wide receiver 28 prices by, I would say is a pretty confident signal to buy.
17:46Now, if you are a Parker Washington owner, you're either holding or you are using this very encouraging start to launch yourself
17:52upwards, right now, what does Parker Washington and a future first get me?
17:56I think is the question we have to ask.
17:58Right. And if that vaults me into a Drake London range where he had a serious down week.
18:04And we'll talk about that with the, with the fallout in Atlanta right now.
18:08I mean, those are offers that I'm definitely exploring Casey, but that all being said, I think that, uh, I think Parker
18:14Washington is a, is a buy or he's a hold, you know, I wouldn't be selling him for, for anything cheap right now.
18:21Yeah. Right. He's 24 and a half years old right now.
18:24I, on the FFD crowdsource rankings here, we we've got a med wide receiver 27 in super flex tight end premium.
18:30So kind of right there with where you're talking about.
18:33So yeah, I'm kind of with you on that one.
18:36I don't have much to push back on. He looks, he looks the part week one.
18:40We got the outcome we wanted. Um, I can't imagine that he'll stay that far ahead of target share for the rest
18:46of, uh, but I mean, it's, he does seem like he's going to be maybe the guy over there.
18:52I think it'll, it'll balance itself out a little bit more.
18:55Um, but generally he's going to be a, he looks like he's gunning for that number one spot.
19:00Shout out ludicrous. Yeah. I mean, the last thing we have to say on Parker Washington to Casey, I just wanted to
19:07include it was like, you mentioned the game script.
19:09They didn't have to even air the ball out in the second half.
19:13And so it's like, if this is a closer game and the Jags are battling back and forth, I mean, how much
19:19more involvement does Parker Washington get when you need him?
19:22Right. So I think that's an intriguing use case that, right.
19:25Yeah. We'll see how the season rolls. Yeah. And, and to be fair, BTJ did leave, but I mean, if we're this
19:32injury thing has now been sort of constant. So we shall see.
19:35All right. Next one. Uh, we're going to talk bears offense here, but I broke this into a couple of different parts and pieces.
19:42So it wasn't just one long bears conversation. Will Caleb Williams be the QB one after this year?
19:47I think the answer is yes. It pains me to say it too.
19:51Cause I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie.
19:54I'll, I'll own a case. Yeah. I've been a little bit of like Caleb Williams is, uh, a little overinflated dynasty value wise.
20:00Like I didn't love the completion percentage last year.
20:03Um, I still think that, you know, the accuracy department was something to be desired.
20:07Kind of squash that week one, you know, he came out over 70% and he looks good doing it.
20:13And man, his legs are just something right. Like, I mean the, the way he was evading pressure in the pocket and
20:19the way he was keeping his eyes downfield and the way that he kept finding the end zone on the ground was,
20:26uh, something for us fantasy owners to just gawk at.
20:28So I think, um, yeah, he's definitely in the conversation right now to dethrone.
20:32Josh Allen is an entirely different story. So it's just an age thing.
20:36I think in that regard, that's the only reason I like, obviously Josh Allen is still doing what he's doing at a very high level.
20:43Lamar for whatever reason seems to follow the volatility of Lamar.
20:47But if Lamar is Lamar and he is upright, he is, he should be a top two, three Q quarterback in my
20:53opinion, but the age of Caleb Williams and the tidiness of where this offense is heading just seems like we're on a
20:59crash course for Caleb Williams to be QB one, or at least like the case for him.
21:04And what the case that you were making for Drake may to be anywhere near QB one this past year, I don't think is even close to me.
21:12Um, now the legs and then legs, I think are just as good.
21:16If not like, he's a much better evasive quarterback than Drake may is.
21:20I think at this point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think we don't have to go entirely into the Drake may topic
21:26here, but yes, I think the, the cracks in the armor are showing and Caleb Williams is getting a fresh set of
21:32forged armor putting on him right now with Ben Johnson talking about breaking the offensive scoring records out there and try to
21:39beat out those 2013 Broncos or whatever it is.
21:41So I think, uh, I think, yeah, Caleb Williams, uh, if you, if you own him right now, stocks probably going to keep going up.
21:48Yeah. All right. Um, all right. So let's go to the rest of this bears conversation.
21:53Khalif Raymond seemed to monstars the bears past catching powers here.
21:56Um, and, and mainly pointing back to Colson Loveland owners and Colson Loveland table pounders looking around saying what the hell just happened?
22:03How did, how did the bear score almost 60 points and Colson Loveland zeros me up?
22:07So is this, is there any concern for Colson Loveland moving forward here in your opinion, Stan?
22:12I'm a tough person to ask on Colson Loveland because I've been materially lower than the rest of the community on him,
22:19not from a talent perspective, just from the perspective of what we saw this weekend.
22:23There's a ton of people that can get it done in that bears offense.
22:27Kale Williams can do it himself. The running backs are both very relevant.
22:31I mean, like it's just hard to have a tight end in an offense that has a seemingly unlimited weapons give you tight end one numbers.
22:38That all being said, I do think this is a complete and utter outlier.
22:42I hope he doesn't score another zero the entirety of the season for the sake of my portfolio.
22:47Even, you know, I own a decent amount of Colson Loveland myself.
22:51Um, that all being said, no, I wouldn't panic.
22:54I mean, he still participated on, I think it was over 85% of the routes.
22:58So he was still out there doing his thing.
23:00It was just, it wasn't landing his way. Yeah.
23:03I mean, like you said, there's via fantasy points data, here.
23:06Uh, it looks like the route percentage was the highest of Loveland for, or the highest of any bear was Loveland at 84%.
23:13The next closest is Luther burden at 68. Um, you know, and then Rome at 55 and Khalif Raymond at 57.
23:19And then you look at the target share, uh, percentages here, 6.1 for Loveland on that.
23:23So like, it's just something that it just, it, it almost can't ever be this again.
23:28I mean, you know, but love or commit scores, a touchdown, John Walker scores a touch, you know, all the other guys,
23:34Khalif Raymond soaked up, uh, 31% of the target share, which, you know, almost doubling up everybody else on the entire bears offense.
23:41We, we can't imagine that that's going to happen again.
23:44Um, we've seen some, you know, there are obviously the bears last year were, you know, at around 55%, 53% ish in 11.
23:51And we came back this game and we're at like 55, 56%.
23:54Um, they want to score points. They're pretty comfortable in 11.
23:57So I think Raymond's not necessarily going to go away, but, uh, big D alluded to this on the pleasure chest last
24:04night of a lot of those Raymond targets and things seem like they're going to end up in Loveland's lap, you know, as early as next week.
24:11Right. Yeah. so I wouldn't be too concerned is Raymond in any way, shape or form of flex potential for you next week.
24:18I gotta say no. Right. I mean, it's week one.
24:21If I see it more than one week, we can have the conversation, but for now, I think it's just, I'm a Roman dunes, a believer.
24:28I think burden's got a major role there. Loveland's got a role there.
24:32We like the running backs in that room. I mean, they both ate and gave you plenty of fantasy production this week.
24:38So, uh, in the immediate, I'll take a, I'll take a fourth for Clay framing.
24:43If someone will pay it to me, I'll take my, I'll take my profits and run Casey.
24:48Yeah. Is he, is he returning punts for them?
24:50I would assume. I don't know. I'm not sure.
24:53I don't know. It was more of a kick return punt return yardage league question.
24:57Oh yeah. Um, but, uh, obviously Roma dunes, a had a little bit of a scare coming in, into the season late in camp there.
25:04So, you know, him being at only a 55% route percentage makes sense.
25:08Don't panic. Rome's going to be just fine. As long as the injury stays, uh, where they want to see it, I
25:14think we'll continuously see that to creep up. I am too, a Rome guy.
25:18Uh, this one stinks for me because I love Luther burden and I love Roma dunes.
25:23There's, you know, Caleb is showing that he's good enough to support all these.
25:27But when we, when we shoehorn Calif Raymond's in there, we're just not going to have enough opportunity for everybody to be doing these types of things.
25:35So, you know, some, some weeks you're gonna have to deal with that here and there.
25:39It seems. Yeah. I mean, Hey, I'm just hanging my hat on that 47 yard pass that Rome mossed out of the air over the DB.
25:47And, you know, when I saw it, Casey, I was like, this is what we've been waiting for.
25:52Here it is. It's time. And, uh, and the breakout is going to be a little delayed guys, but it's coming.
25:58It's coming. Yeah. Well, that was one thing that you hadn't necessarily seen him be super strong at in the NFL was
26:04kind of that contested catch area, which he had been good at.
26:08Uh, exactly. Like you're talking about at university of Washington, it was a, it was a weekly occurrence.
26:13And, uh, and now it's nice to see him hopefully find that confidence back and willing to be physical at the catch point.
26:20So let's see what happens. I also wonder if, if, you know, and this would be more diagnosis of like, if that's
26:26the mismatch that, uh, I'm drawing that Ben Johnson saw and Raymond running out of the slot this week and they could
26:32take advantage of it, then that's what he did.
26:35Right. Um, so, you know, it could all be part of those.
26:38Hey, that was the weak point of, of the Carolina defense and we're going to extort it, uh, for as much as we can.
26:45So, and then next week people are going to be looking at Raymond.
26:49He's going to do something else, right? Uh, that's just, I think, you know, that's just the nature of how things go.
26:55Um, all right, moving on. Montgomery comes out, has an excellent week.
26:59One, obviously from an efficiency standpoint, some people could argue not the best, but I think it was just what the Texans needed and wanted from them.
27:07And that, that the outcome fantasy points wise was everything.
27:10Any manager could have wanted at the ADP that you drafted him at.
27:13So is David, what is David? Monk? Is he worth a first right now?
27:17Dude, this is a, such a good question. And I, I'm serious.
27:21I went up in my discord right as the game was going and, and putting the final touches on it and said,
27:27if you're a contender, are you sending a 28 first round pick for David Montgomery?
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28:53Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. So if we jump to 28, can you get a 28 first for David Montgomery?
28:59I think the answer has to be yes, unequivocally.
29:02And believe it or not, the Discord poll as of right now, it's not closed, but 86% are saying as a contending
29:08team, they're fine sending a 28 first for David Montgomery.
29:11I mean, man, he looked pretty good. 20 carries, only 60 yards on those, but two rushing touchdowns, add the receiving touchdown in.
29:18Woody Marks only had nine carries. So you're talking less than half of what David Montgomery got.
29:23So it looks like he's going to be the guy.
29:25And I know this isn't a David Montgomery question, but CJ Stroud looked a lot better to my eye than what we have seen in the past.
29:33That was going to be my follow-up. Yeah. Yeah.
29:36And I think that that speaks volumes, right? Like we saw Stroud in his rookie year do some great things.
29:42We saw the confidence be shaken a bit last off season, no contract this off season.
29:46Right. And I think if you can get that version of CJ Stroud wheels are up for David Montgomery, Nico Collins, and the whole lot of them.
29:54So, yeah, I, like I said, from the efficiency standpoint, I think you could, there's a lot to be desired from, but
30:00I mean, the strong suit of the bills is that defensive line, right?
30:04As far as their defense goes. But, you know, and this offensive line for the Texans is, is basically rebuilt.
30:10So it could take a minute for it to kind of figure out and gel and kind of figure out where they're at.
30:16But this is what you wanted the, like last year, Woody marks was a rookie.
30:21He's just not somebody that you necessarily want to be in here pounding it with.
30:25I think the position that Woody marks is in this year really ups his value, ups what, what he can bring to the table for this team.
30:33I think it's a good fit. But like you mentioned here, we got route participation route percentage for Montgomery's at 42% to, to, to Woody's 31.
30:40The snap share was 57% or the snap percentage for Montgomery was 57% to Woody's 28%.
30:45I do think these numbers get a little closer as the season goes on, but the attempt percentage, 62% for Montgomery to 28% for Woody.
30:52And then the target share at 7.9%, which, you know, you get up into 8%.
30:56That's not a terrible target share percentage for a running back.
31:00Um, and Montgomery is a great receiver. He's always been a great receiver, um, underutilized in that.
31:05And obviously Gibbs was otherworldly on his last stop.
31:07Um, but he was somebody in Chicago who I always felt was an under, underused part of the receiving game.
31:13So I think Stroud taking a step back into what we saw and being confident at the end of last year, those
31:19concussions, I think really wore on him. I think he was a little rattled.
31:23You could just see that the confidence just was not what you saw from TJ Stroud early on.
31:28What we saw yesterday. There was some, some bad, but I felt, thought he overcome it.
31:33He, he, he targeted, uh, Nico Collins at a really strong rate, made some great throws, uh, throughout that game.
31:39Obviously the end of the game went in a, in a fashion that you don't want to see basically a, a fumble
31:45from Stroud, um, kind of sealing that one up a bit.
31:48Uh, but again, I'm, I'm with you here. If, if, if the Texans themselves can be scoring 24, 28 points a game, like they're a super bowl contender.
31:56Uh, if, if Stroud can put them in these kinds of games and, and keep mistakes down, not turn it over a
32:03ton, be confident with what he's doing and they can, they can figure out this run game.
32:08Look, the bills came out and had a hell of a performance here.
32:11Week one, there's not many teams that are going to hang 36 on the Texans.
32:16Um, and look the day that the DJ more play that, that, that could have turned the whole game around instead.
32:22It looks like great on the stat sheet for DJ more, but that was, that could have been a pick going the other way.
32:29Right. So that whole game, then that tone of that game could, could shift right there.
32:33Um, so that's, it's, it's, it's inches in that game, but Montgomery, your, your people and it's overreaction Monday on a week one.
32:40Uh, so, you know, ask him in week three, if David Montgomery is worth the first, it's probably a little bit closer poll, different answer.
32:47I would probably say, no, uh, this is, this is to a multiple second standpoint, but if you are a contender, I
32:53mean, the whole point of this thing is to win money.
32:57And, and at some point it's okay to lose the value game to put the points in your lineup game.
33:02Right. I think, well, I think that's one question we got to ask too, right?
33:07Casey is like, you know, I was making this argument during the off season and, and not to toot my own horn
33:13here, but I've been saying for months, what if the bears extend Deandre Swift?
33:17What if they extend Deandre Swift? And it happened.
33:20And now you're seeing him produce really well. His 90 C value is going to probably be on a very solid upwards
33:26rising trajectory for the next few weeks at the bare minimum here coming off all that good news and performance.
33:32But the question with David Montgomery is, you know, I think it's really interesting how nobody brings up this narrative Casey, but
33:38it's like, we all like to talk about, well, Chris McCaffrey had too many touches last year.
33:43He's going to regress, you know, Saquon Barkley the year before he had too many touches and these running backs, there's too
33:49much, you know, tread on the tires, but you mentioned it.
33:52David Montgomery sat second fiddle to Jameer Gibbs for years.
33:55We're not talking about the opposite side of it.
33:58I mean, you can look at David Montgomery and say, well, yeah, he's an older back.
34:02He's in his late twenties, but I could also sit there and say, no, David Montgomery is in his mid twenties.
34:09He basically sat for two and a half seasons and didn't have to do very much from a workloads perspective.
34:14And if you look at his contract, I mean, he's got another year next year in Houston, bare minimum.
34:20That's not saying anything of a potential extension in the future.
34:23I'm not, I'm not speaking that into existence just yet off of one game, right?
34:27This is a overreaction Monday, but I do think when you talk 28 first, it's like, okay, if I get a top
34:3414 performance from David Montgomery this year, and he runs it back with a little regression for a top 18 performance next
34:40year, was that worth it to rent a running back that could potentially win me two championships or be a contributor in my roster?
34:47I think the answer has got to be yes.
34:49Right? So this is all pending injuries and how the Texans remain looking the rest of the season.
34:55So I'm not writing anything in Sharpie yet, but I think we do have to talk about, you know, nobody talks about
35:01the other side of less tread on the tires for these running backs.
35:05Yeah, no, that's a, that's a very good point.
35:07I mean, it should be, it should be done in, in mileage, not years, you know?
35:12That's, uh, so anyhow, I got to start talking about these running backs, like they're Pontiac.
35:16That's right. That's right. You know, I've, I've got a Toyota with, with 70,000 miles on it to 2006 or 2016.
35:23Like that thing's doing just fine. I think it's going to be, you know, it's old, but 70,000 miles.
35:28I mean, this is, you know, that's nothing. It's just getting started.
35:31So, um, all right, uh, let's stay in this game.
35:34Let's go to, let's go to the Dalton Kincaid side.
35:37Cause we mentioned DJ more having a good game and helping this, this situation out.
35:42And I'll be, uh, up front is like, I don't trust the Joe Brady.
35:46I didn't trust the Joe Brady offense to be heavily targeting one person and making them relevant week over week.
35:51But we just saw Dalton Kincaid come out here and have just, I think it was 68% snap share.
35:57Let me see here. 73, I think is what I got, which is, which is the highest he's, he's had in his career so far.
36:04He was normally flirting around that. 60% was his high, but yeah, six targets, five catches, 130 yards.
36:09I mean, I don't expect over a hundred yards out of Dalton Kincaid each and every week, but you're mentioning there from
36:15the snap percentage perspective is very encouraging for his future.
36:18Yeah, no, I I've got, I've got 68.8 from fantasy data points, but this it's all charted slightly different in different places, but still that's extremely good.
36:26If we're going to, if you're going to tell me that through the season of what the bills are going to do
36:32that, we're going to see him be at that clip of usage.
36:36Like I just can't imagine a world where it's not, you know, at least six, seven, eight targets a game.
36:42If you're going to be on the field that much, he's clearly their second or first best player on offense.
36:47I think I've always been a big fan of him.
36:50I don't know where you stood historically on the Dalton Kincaid train.
36:54It's been a tough one to stay on the train.
36:57And injuries have been a big part of that.
36:59And, you know, Knox being signed is always, you know, but a lot of teams are, are doing those kinds of things.
37:06You know, you just saw Michael Mayer get paid.
37:08You've seen Cole commit and, and now Loveland be in there.
37:11So we've seen this kind of juxtaposition of, of we got two guys with okay contracts from the tight end position, but
37:18I think the talent of Dalton Kincaid, Joe Brady's just always given me pause.
37:22He hasn't given me any reason to say, but to be fair, like who's been the guy that they can give it to.
37:28And if, if Kincaid hasn't been available from a health standpoint, they couldn't use them like that, you know?
37:34So you feel like this is, do you think this is, is this the new reality is the question I have here for Dalton Kincaid.
37:41Well, the new reality is more opportunity. Yes. The new reality is not 26 yards per catch is what we need to
37:47make sure that we are understanding of it. Just to like put into perspective to Casey, how absurdly efficient this Buffalo offense was.
37:54I mean, we were talking about Jacksonville, but like 52 plays is what they ran.
37:58Okay. They netted 409 yards. That was that's, that's 7.9 yards per play.
38:02So like this team definitely overperformed, especially against the Texans defense that I know you and I both expect to be near the top.
38:09They remain healthy by the end of the season.
38:12That all being said, yes, I do think this is a trend in the right direction for Dalton Kincaid.
38:17I agree with you that he might be outside of Josh Allen, you know, and James cook, probably the most talented positional player on, on offense here.
38:25I like DJ more, but I think Don Kincaid, his ceiling is potentially higher where he can go in his career.
38:31If he's able to stay healthy and on the field now and build from these performances with Josh Allen.
38:36And we we've seen Josh Allen come out and be vocal and say that he's like, I trust Don Kincaid to the nth degree.
38:43Like I'm going to throw the ball up in his direction as much as I possibly can.
38:48Like you mentioned though, unfortunately he just hasn't been on the field enough for Josh Allen to throw the ball up whenever he possibly can.
38:55So I think give me a six game stretch here of healthy Don Kincaid.
38:59Let's pray. And let's revisit this and see where we're at.
39:03Cause he was always in that premium tight end conversation, but I think it was hard to keep them in there this
39:09off season when you're drafting, just because we haven't seen it turn into a physical product.
39:13But if it's going to be like this, he's climbing right back up into Harold Fannin range.
39:18Right? Right. Yeah. I mean, and you know, we, we knew the all off season, the advanced metrics of, of, you know,
39:25per play stuff was very good from what we saw from Dalton Kincaid.
39:28And that doesn't always turn into anything. It's a lot of that, a lot of that sometimes can just be, you know,
39:35turned into, and that didn't ever really matter. Um, and I know Shev has been a big proponent of Kincaid all off season.
39:41So shout out to him. Great first game here, but you wouldn't be, are you, or would you be selling off your Kincaid stock here?
39:49Is this a sell high moment? Or are you just, I think the tight end game is, is, is, is so tricky
39:55that if you can get somebody who's going to maintain this level of usage, obviously health, you know, take it or take, take it for what it is.
40:03I mean, it's, it's something that's very hard to predict.
40:06You could Keenan Allen's the guy we always go back to of just like forever.
40:10He was injury prone. And then he didn't have an injury forever for Keenan Allen.
40:14Um, Kincaid could be healthy, relatively relatively healthy for the next five years.
40:18And if, if so, it doesn't look like this.
40:21So selling high to me, I think I, you know, I'm much more, if I believe in the guy, I'm much more
40:27of a holder than, than a seller. Uh, so where would you stand on the, on the Kincaid?
40:32Just generally it's week one. It is what it is.
40:35Would you be selling off? I know we're not giving, you know, and we, and we will eventually be giving specific examples.
40:42Of how to buy and sell, but week one, it's, you know, it is what it is.
40:46So we're going to live in the, in the, in the maybe right now.
40:50Yeah, I know for sure. I think this one's just very situation and format dependent for me.
40:55So I don't mean to sit on a fence, but if you're at a heavy Titan premium, then no, I'm probably not
41:02just immediately selling Dalton Kincaid because you might finally have struck water in the well.
41:06And this is what's going to feed you throughout the entirety of the season.
41:10Now that all being said, you said something that I always rely on, at least in my own leagues, which is if
41:16you believe in the guy or if, if he was one of your guys.
41:20Now, if I can now take Kincaid and get to a guy I believe in more like Tucker craft, for example, who
41:27I just view as a complete and utter game wrecker at times.
41:30Yeah, I'll take this and I'll try to move to craft.
41:33And Hey, if I can get a one for one now, because Kincaid looks so good, that's great.
41:39If all I got to do is add a third or something small, you know, I'm, I'm more interested.
41:44Right. So I would say my answer is I will use Kincaid to tear up to the players that I really, really believe in.
41:51But if not, I'm probably just holding because, you know, if you're going to go ahead and print what two 27 seconds
41:57for Don Kincaid, it's just, it's not as exciting to me.
42:00Right. I mean, if I can get a mid first, now we're talking a different story, but I'm trying to remain in the realm of, of reality here.
42:09Correct. Yeah. I mostly would be in the holds, holding pattern for him right now as well.
42:13So, all right, keeping it moving here. We go, we shoot over to the green Bay Packers here.
42:19And when we take a look at kind of what took place this first game without, let's say, you know, Jordan Reed
42:25or a Jane rear, yeah, Jane, Romeo Dobbs rather.
42:28And Wicks is now out there for the Philadelphia, not, not there anymore.
42:31So this core looks a lot like it's Watson, it's golden, it's reading its craft.
42:36And that's kind of what we're going to have, what we're going to work with little Johnny Smith working in there.
42:42But the good part of the Packers game, we saw Christian Watson be about as good as we could hope.
42:47Christian Watson could possibly be from an efficiency and a receiver volume standpoint.
42:51Now you go through and route participation. Participation golden was number one at eight, 87%, but Watson was second on the team
42:57at 80 target share, 26% for golden and 16% for Watson.
43:01So generally I think that the Packers are going to will Matthew golden to be their number one, essentially, because they don't
43:07spend a first round draft pick on receivers often.
43:10I think they're just going to make it be a thing.
43:13And I think he's good. I don't, you know, I thought that people being super down on him last year because he
43:19didn't produce as a rookie at a, you know, it is what it is.
43:23It's sometimes things don't go your way. They had a weird spread out, but I thought love played okay to start the
43:29game and then was just awful in the back half of this game.
43:33And it seemed like Christian Watson got the good love.
43:36And I've always been somebody who's been on the Christian Watson, like sell high when you can sell high, buy low and you can buy low.
43:44Cause he's just been that kind of volatile of a player.
43:47And I find him hard to trust week over week in my lineup for generally throughout his fantasy career, best ball for sure.
43:53I'm fine with it, but is he somebody who you now view as potentially being wide receiver one from a points standpoint for the Packers week over week?
44:01Oh, this one hurts me because I love Christian Watson as a prospect.
44:05Like I loved him coming out of college. I was stashing him left and right towards the end of the first round of my rookie drafts.
44:13You know, however many years ago was now, it feels like a lifetime, right?
44:17Time goes so fast. That all being said though, I think we're finally seeing the potential and the ceiling of what Christian Watson could be.
44:24I mean, you saw it on that 81 yard touchdown run, you know, he's explosive.
44:28Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The man can, can really start churning and burning.
44:32If you just give them some open space to do so.
44:35The unfortunate part is just how long is that going to last?
44:39Because the injuries have been such an issue in his career.
44:42And I think what we also have to acknowledge Casey and, you know, I hate to tie everything back to my guy,
44:48Tucker craft over here, but that what we saw this weekend was still a shell of Tucker craft.
44:53Like they were absolutely picking and choosing when to get him involved.
44:57And he did fine for you. You know what I mean?
45:00He's still got, I think nine and a half points, even in the non-premium.
45:04So, you know, Tucker craft still extremely well involved at a very limited rate.
45:08That all being said though, I I'm tentative on crowning Christian Watson right now.
45:12Now, is he the wide receiver I'm most excited about in that offense?
45:16Yes. The answer is yes. I, I still think he's better than Matthew golden.
45:20And I know Matthew golden, like crazy enough. He had 50% more targets than Watson.
45:24He had 12 targets, but he only came down with six of them for 95 yards.
45:29Christian Watson, uh, had 147 and two studies. So I think fantasy wise, all the headlines are going to be Christian Watson there.
45:35Um, all being said, I, I I'm excited about what I'm seeing out of Christian Watson.
45:40I'm taking it with a grain of salt. He still carries a little bit of like JMO in the back of my
45:46mind of like, he's going to have huge games.
45:49He's going to have six point games. And so, uh, I think the other thing you alluded to there is I hate
45:55to poopoo on Jordan love, but I I'm just not the biggest Jordan love guy.
45:59Like I think he's very streaky when he's on, he's on, but that Packers offense does seem to struggle often and just kind of shut down.
46:07And the coaching decisions have been something I've questioned over the years as well.
46:11So yeah, the line struggled yesterday all day as well for the Packers, both in the run game and protecting, um, Jordan love.
46:18Um, so that's certainly part of it. Um, but is there, is there any, um, is there anything going to be left for Jaden Reed consistently?
46:25That's a better question. I think Jaden Reed is like, if you have them, you have to hold them right now because
46:31you're not going to be able to sell them for much after a performance like that in, in my mind.
46:37Um, but I'm not actively going out and sending Jaden Reed offers this week.
46:41If it's me. Which I really, really liked the talent.
46:44I, he's somebody who I just think that like you can use him like a line of scrimmage, a screen guy, get
46:50the ball in his hands, do stuff like you could do interesting things with them.
46:55I just feel like with golden and with, with Watson.
46:58And then like you said, craft slowly working his way back.
47:01I feel like Reed's going to end up being the odd man out here.
47:05Um, and again, like he's also had some injuries.
47:07Watson's had some injuries craft coming back. So, you know, it's, it's a, I feel like it's a, it's a moving, um,
47:14lineup here, but I, I struggle to find a spot for Reed consistently.
47:18Yeah. I don't know if I'm a huge believer here and man, that green Bay backfield was gross.
47:23It was gross to watch. Disgusting mess. Marshawn Lloyd, 13 carries for 37 yards, zero catches.
47:27And I didn't see a whole lot at a, at a Brooks that I liked either.
47:32So I think all, all to wrap up the Packers here, Watson, if you got them, ride them crafts on the, on the incline.
47:39I'm not touching that running game. Yeah. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I've been very much in on draft and golden.
47:45So I'm, I like that. There was a lot of targets here going his way.
47:49I think they're going to try to make it a thing.
47:52That was kind of my off season position and I'm a sticking with it.
47:56Um, all right, Atlanta, just obviously two, it goes out before the game.
48:00Then, uh, Cooper rush has some back spasms. We kind of know that he's just a very mid backup quarterback.
48:06He could, he could, he could not lose games for you, but he's certainly not going to win games for you.
48:12Um, are, do we have a Drake and pits issue here for the Atlanta Falcons and your fantasy team?
48:17I mean, in the immediate, yes, it depends on how long until we get Michael Penix back.
48:22And I, I know you and I were talking a little bit, uh, earlier today, just about Michael Penix.
48:27And I've been a long time believer. I'm, I'm going to hold down the faith that when he returns, there will be
48:34a lot sunnier days for your fantasy football assets.
48:36I trust him to be able to force the ball downfield at least and, and feed some pass catchers.
48:42But yeah, if it's going to be Cooper rush under center, Casey, uh, Drake London and Kyle pits are both, uh, probably a non-starter for me.
48:49How do we not roll with, how do we not give Jack strand a shot here?
48:54Yeah, it's a great question. We should have, we should have already got it.
48:58I mean, if you're in Atlanta's position, you're playing with the house's money right now.
49:02You just got to throw something at the wall and hope it sticks.
49:06And you're benching Drake and pits. Uh, I want to say yes.
49:10I don't think I feel good about gassing them up.
49:12If I'm correct, who are they playing? I think it's, they play the Panthers.
49:16The Panthers. Yeah, no, I, I think, uh, I think I'll, I'll pass on them this week.
49:21Yes. Especially if I have better options. Now, if you don't have better options, yeah, Drake London's a, a top 10 wide
49:28receiver when he's healthy, but, uh, yeah, in the immediate, I'm not very encouraged.
49:32I'm a very much start your studs kind of a guy.
49:35Like I don't, you know, it is what I got a bad matchup.
49:39It is what it is. But when this starts kind of stuff starts trickling in where it's like, you're just unsure if,
49:45if the quarterback there can facilitate this, I do start to struggle.
49:48Like you said, if you have some better, you know, if, if Kalief Raymond is your next option for Drake London, then play Drake London again.
49:56But if you're sitting there with like, let's just say you have Matthew golden on the bench, would you play Matthew golden over Drake London this coming week?
50:04Yeah, I would. I would. And, and that's a crazy statement because I'm not going to lie.
50:09You asked me that three weeks ago. I I'd say, you said no way out of your high.
50:14Yeah, exactly. Like I'd ask you what you were smoking and ask you for, for a hit.
50:19Yeah. So, all right. So, but somebody like, all right, let's, let's, let's go one more.
50:24Like, yeah, like somebody like a Casey conception. Cause we know how poor that that looked this week.
50:29Okay. That one I'm going to go over Drake.
50:31And that one I'm going to go. No, but it's also because that Browns offense just looked anemic for most of the game.
50:38I mean, they scored, I think they scored in the two minute warning.
50:42Was it like real garbage time? Right. So, yeah.
50:44Yeah. So you, you, you saw three points from that Browns offense.
50:48Now I don't trust the Falcons, but I trust Drake London more than a three point Browns team.
50:53Okay. Well, so Jalen Coker did just pop up on the injury report, but he would be, and I don't think we
50:59actually, we had them on the list where we talked about him.
51:03I don't think he actually made it on this week.
51:06I'm sure we'll talk about him, but like if you, if Jalen Coker plays against said Atlanta Falcons, would you play Coker
51:12or would you play Drake London or Kyle Pitts?
51:14I guess Kyle Pitts is different because unless it's like a premium and you want to flex.
51:19So we'll just leave it at Drake. Like, I think you got to go Coker.
51:24I think you got to go Coker too, which is nice.
51:27I hate this. Casey, man, week one has already thrown us.
51:30I mean, it's so funny. We can all sit here, you know, for, for six months plus in our ivory tower and
51:36make as many predictions as we want. And just week one comes around and you're already benching Drake London.
51:42Like this is the, why we play the game.
51:44It's, it's too much fun. It's too much. Yeah.
51:47All right. Let's, let's move on from, from the unfun Falcons right now.
51:51Obviously B. John is still a must play. Yes.
51:53As far as that goes. Right. Um, all right.
51:56Isaiah likely shines in new look giants offense. will he finish as a top five tight end to start this conversation no
52:02i i don't think he will now very much like what i saw out of isaiah likely there okay uh i've been
52:09skeptical of some of the preseason news with him right like oh he's jackson dart's favorite target in in preseason and in
52:15training camp well it's just so easy to say when there's no pads and i mean he's a tight end he's he's
52:21incredibly athletic right he's basically a receiving tight end yeah with no pads on of course a guy that's you know like
52:28over six four and able to run that speed is going to be taking down a lot of passes like no one
52:34wants to touch him he's huge that all being said um that all being said uh he looked great and and dart
52:40looked really confident as a passer i know we're probably gonna talk a little bit about dart here in a second so
52:47i won't jump the gun too much but i think that was the most encouraging sign from a likely perspective was just
52:53what i saw out of jackson dart and his pocket presence and and kind of the way he went through his reads
52:59and it didn't look too frazzled back there you know i think a lot of times we saw jackson dart tuck the
53:06ball and run early last year and this year it seems like he is trying to develop as a quarterback before he
53:12just runs and there was plenty of running still involved like we watched him pull down on you know on reads often
53:18and and he had the option there you know consistently that they drew up for him which i love to see from
53:25also a rushing perspective fantasy wise i took us on a rabbit trail down the dart train but it's important casey because
53:31that directly translates to isaiah likely's overall production and so he's absolutely in the realm of a top 10 finisher for me
53:37i just think the top six is going to be tough to crack this year there's a lot of guys i really
53:44like you know i won't list every single person that we think is an elite tight end here you know in burn
53:50time but like i still think sam laporte is in that conversation he looked encouraging in week one coming back with five
53:56catches and eight targets you know coming off a back injury and like you said the lions offense didn't even look very
54:03good so i think to just slot him in as top six that'd be a week one reaction i will give him
54:09top 10 though it was very encouraging and i like the trajectory so he would be somebody who you would be not
54:15selling from from what you just saw week one or like again you know i think you're you're selling if i can
54:22get a tear up right like if i'm a contender i still think george kittle is going to be a difference maker
54:28down the stretch this year right so now if i'm an isaiah likely owner and i can say go to the george
54:34kittle owner and say give me george kittle in a 27 second i'm fine doing that because i think george kittle when
54:41he's back to being george kittle you know by week four or week six is still gonna be a huge difference maker
54:47for you potentially even come the fantasy playoffs and i just got a 27 second that probably is gonna be worth something
54:53significant in the offseason next year right and so those are deals i would explore but no i'm not just taking uh
55:00likely and running to the to the first better yeah i i you know i've been a likely supporter for a while
55:06so this this feels good so again this is going to be somebody who i like the player i believe in the
55:12player so i'm not necessarily going off to sell him but along the vein of what you said about kate and just
55:19kind of reiterated there if you can go tear up to an elite level player and maybe add a little something to
55:25likely after this week one performance i never think that that's a bad way to go you know you're never gonna go
55:31broke quote unquote taking a profit as they say um but the the dart thing was is something that you know i'll
55:38just i'll hit on him we'll move on and um i thought he looked confident i thought he's making quick decisions last
55:44night i was i wasn't a dart hater i was just apprehensive of the adp from the offseason where i wasn't ready
55:50to throw him in the mix of where everybody was ready to put him um you know like in that brock purdy
55:57or before brock purdy even in a lot of stand and i was just like i'll just rather take brock now it's
56:03still i'm okay taking brock purdy i know what i'm getting there uh but the rushing upside is enticing we just needed
56:09to not take do the dumb things but like you said seemed like and collinsworth made it a point to kind of
56:16like they're not going to take away the rushing they're still very much going to use it because it should as a
56:22weapon but like you have to be smart about how you're going to do it uh but generally from the quarterback perspective
56:28yesterday i thought he was making good decisions and and again i and maybe some of this is just stemming back because
56:35i thought the the cowboys defense was going to be much improved uh and that that did not seem to be the
56:41case but um shout out to you know say whatever you want about john harbaugh but that's that's a good coach um
56:47and you know i know everybody hates the guys who are in charge of the offense over there uh but i thought
56:54they did a great job yesterday that was that was really well done from the giants perspective um and it looks like
57:00you know you could say follow the money that doesn't always that that's not i think that's a that's a silly way
57:06to approach uh things because people do dumb things uh with with monies and contracts so but very encouraging what you saw
57:13from isaiah likely um definitely a a week two starter for sure moving forward um now for to likely's former team now
57:19this guy's a little banged up but we talked about zay flowers as is your opinion now from what you saw in
57:25week one zay flowers has the potential to now be inside of just a consistent week or week to week wide receiver
57:32one i don't see how he can't be you know he looked so electric in that first half and the fact of
57:38the matter is that at halftime this man had five catches for 150 yards and a touchdown and it's like okay say
57:44what you want the indianapolis colts their their defense isn't incredible or it's the first game of the season there's going to
57:51be flukes you can make every excuse in the book i loved what i saw at zay flowers um you know i
57:57think he was trending upwards we we really liked what we were seeing at the end of last year finished his wide
58:03receiver seven overall now points per game wise it's going to look a little bit different right so i think a lot
58:10of people were wondering this offseason was that inflated is this legit but hey i mean you know we talked about even
58:16in the game you saw jacoby lane was that second option and he's a 21 year old rookie so if you're looking
58:22for upside and potential alpha league winning upside in a wide receiver we say opportunity is king i mean how can you
58:29not be all in on zay flowers here i know a lot of people were rumbling saying he's going to take the
58:35jsn jump this year now i don't know if i'm 100 there because i think jsn's a different breed but look i
58:41i think zay flowers looked as good as you can look in a half of football so yeah i think he's a
58:48no-brainer plug and play wide receiver 125 freshly extended i mean how many how many other good things do you need casey
58:54how many other good things well that that was there was always a yeah but with him um but it seems like
59:00to me this just comes down to is the new coordinator and declan doyle able to facilitate and put him in the
59:07position to win because he's clearly a good enough player it's always been well what about the touchdowns and it's like all
59:13right well yeah i get that to some extent but touchdowns can be you know quite fluky and and move up and
59:19down pretty but like if you're going to be able to get the ball in his hands like you just got the
59:26ball like they did a great job of getting the ball in his hands on the move uh so he's already kind
59:32of in motion uh and getting to put his best skills on display i think it's really hard to deal with and
59:38i think lamar looked really sharp yesterday uh which is always a positive but you know he's their guy like he's gonna
59:45he should be the guy who just oozes target percentage and if you're just gonna heap all that on to him now
59:51he has to stay healthy um that's gonna be a part of it but he's been relatively healthy throughout his career but
59:57he has been somebody who i think if you have like a pretty loaded team he's somebody who you're always a little
60:04sweaty to slide in there week over week generally for the public but i think if healthy and out there from now
60:10on i think he's somebody who pretty much has to be in your lineup and i know that's a ridiculous thing to
60:16say but do you understand do you get the the way that i'm framing that like obviously the way you're drafting him
60:23you're playing him but i feel like if you've got an existing lineup where you had zay like i've got some pretty
60:29loaded lineups where it's like hey do you want to play you know zay or uh mike evans is a bad example
60:35right now but just like sometimes you get to that point where it's like hey your first two receivers are jsn and
60:42uh drake london if maybe if he's not you know doing what he's doing right now but then you hey you're now
60:48you're into your flexes and it's like hey i have i got a bunch of good flexes like i could be playing
60:54breeze hall or zay flowers right i mean well a good example in what you're talking about which i completely agree with
61:01is like you know i was i was talking to you pre-show about one of my ultimate contending teams that i'm running
61:07out right now it's a three wide receiver team i got justin jefferson jackson smith and jigba and tedder o mcmillan feel
61:13great about that wide receiving core but if i had zay flowers i'd sure as hell be debating playing zay flowers over
61:20ted and i'd probably do it right and so i think it's like okay well now now we're opening a conversation because
61:26i know startup adp isn't everything in dynasty you draft for the future but you probably took at the end of the
61:32second early third you probably took zay in the fifth if not maybe the early sixth depending on when you did your
61:39startup draft this offseason you know right so i think it's like yeah those conversations exist now and i think zay flowers
61:45has got to be mentioned with the best of them in those wide receiver builds so yeah yeah all right two more
61:51questions and then we'll get into some rookie conversation and some year two player stuff um all right we just watched that
61:58bangles bucks game and gasecki came out there and and put put one down is this is this a real thing here
62:04obviously we're not worried about t higgins and chase you know that's week one overreaction stuff but is the gasecki thing because
62:10the third option there just doesn't exist outside of chase brown no you know what's really funny casey is like i i
62:17found myself mentioning mike gasecki like pretty often this offseason just as far as like you know we talk opportunities king right
62:23yeah opportunities king he's free he's entirely free you know they had no a fan a couple years ago and didn't turn
62:29into anything and then you know they kind of just keep coming back to the mike gasecki well here and uh yeah
62:36he paid off for you right five catches 78 yards touchdown this week and and like you mentioned price point is everything
62:42i mean this guy's probably still sitting on your waivers in a lot of leagues right now like like i guarantee he
62:48is in a lot of people's leagues i don't want to admit it that was almost the question i framed it's like
62:55is he worth a pickup but i you know i wanted to give people you know a little bit more credit than
63:01that he probably shouldn't be sitting on some waiver wires but in redraft he certainly is oh for sure yeah is this
63:07a real thing is this something to be excited about or is this something that next you're not gonna you wouldn't be
63:14let's put it this way are you putting kyle pitts in your lineup are you putting mike gasecki in your lineup next
63:20week i'm putting mike gasecki in my lineup i mean come on man you're putting me on the spire with kyle pitts
63:26again and like if cooper rush is rolling out i think you gotta just do it right i mean the bangles the
63:33bangles can move the ball and joe burrow didn't look fantastic from from my eyes and you know i think he made
63:39some questionable decisions here but yeah and at least if we're talking one by one week sample size here mike gasecki is
63:45probably a streaming option for you now i i'm not telling you that mike gasecki is going to finish anywhere near like
63:52a top 20 tight end finish even this year um when it's all said and done but you match up dependent bi-week
63:58dependent roster dependent yeah i mean he's in the conversation if you play in a tight end premium league i mean 1.5
64:04you're probably starting mike gasecki over a pretty decent handful of wide receivers out there sure and if you get into the
64:11two-point realms you know he's you're flexing them and this is this is why you know being big co we play in
64:17some two points and it's just like i'll have a roster full of tight ends like you know you could have four
64:23for 40 you know and it's it's still a solid day you know six for 60 is a hell of a day
64:30for a two-point tight end you know 100 100 you're watching a lineup of aj brown dalton show it's all i'll put
64:36them all out there yeah yeah your boy aj barner or aj barner sorry yeah um all right um and i to
64:42be i'm gonna play pits next week over gasecki that's fair that's fair but you know i i'm i'm with you um
64:49all right cam ward is the qb1 in tennessee next year for the final question of fact or fiction or buy sell
64:55or overreaction or is cam ward the qb1 in tennessee in 2027 sorry i'm gonna spin it on you okay okay okay
65:01yes i think he is um the better question is robert sala the head coach of the tennessee titans and i think
65:08it's largely gonna fall on him right like i mean if you're the titans organization i think you gotta just ride this
65:14one out right like you you took him number one overall like you've been changing coaches left and right uh and you're
65:20trying to get something to stick right now but no uh i was way lower than community consensus on cam ward during
65:27the off season i believe we actually talked about that last time i was on with chev on here and apologies to
65:33the man uh you know like i want to root for cam ward and i'm a wandale robinson fan out here you
65:40know i i want to see some good fantasy performance for wandale i own a lot of them but yeah uh this
65:46titans team looked awful casey and and i mean could you ask for an easier matchup in week one with the jets
65:52too so it's like how how low can they go and you know when i knew they were in trouble casey is
65:59i i watched the preseason you know i'm a seahawks fan i watch every game when when they couldn't move the ball
66:05with their starters against our second string defense i was worried okay i was very worried for the titans because i'm like
66:11i know that the seahawks defense is elite but our second string is not elite i mean we already got nehemiah pritchett
66:18rolling out at starting corner okay so like like i don't even think half the viewers out there know who that man
66:24is so yeah yeah yeah i'll i'll go i'll go yes i i i like cam ward a lot um i think
66:30he he cares i think he wants to be good that's a big factor for me um and i think he's got
66:37the talent to be good i think he's got that kind of magiciany like uh play from you know in duress which
66:43sometimes gets him into trouble for sure um i think dayball is somebody who can turn this guy around i think dayball's
66:49had a lot of success and played with a lot of different quarterbacks and uh i think for all the negatives anybody
66:56wants to point at dayball i think quarterback is is a positive that he's he's put on wax um so i say
67:02we got to give this thing time the titans are just like organization like and when we talked about this last time
67:08it was i i think cam ward can be fine will he be elite i don't know but i think he can
67:15be a fantasy qb2 without very much um things going you know crazily right for him organizationally though i i obviously have
67:21again 49ers guy i think sala is is a like they'll figure this defense out one way or the other like even
67:27if you go back to the jets and you can say whatever you want like about where that was but like the
67:34jets defense was formidable when sala was there through his tenure for the most part and as soon as he left the
67:40the just that just fell apart um so i think he'll figure out this defense i think dayball will figure out some
67:46semblance of this offense and i'm with you like i think wandel is is a big key to settling cam ward down
67:53of just easy i was under the impression this year that can't that he would lead this team in receptions and targets
67:59and i think that's the way that they should go give him quick easy little things get the ball out of his
68:05hands easy button them with wandel robinson but yes i'm gonna say yes he is gonna be the quarterback i believe in
68:12cam ward still i think organizationally i think they have some of the right parts and pieces but like this just takes
68:18time to flip how it's been bad bad in tennessee um and you know even with jacksonville when cohen first got there
68:24like there was still plenty of people who were thinking that trevor lawrence was not even a top 32 quarterback you know
68:31what i mean so yeah i mean i'm with you i think cam ward gets gets a leash here and i think
68:37he pulls through on the other end at least you know to be serviceable serviceable yeah serviceable and the one thing i
68:43will say for the titans right and maybe there's the last little piece i'll add for the titans that we can we
68:50can keep moving because i don't think uh people are thrilled about their offensive output right now but they only ran 49
68:56plays uh casey and they only had 21 minutes time of possession like we know it's so hard to get going when
69:02you barely have any of the ball and you know you're starting the season you can't get in a groove you can't
69:09get your plays together you can't line things up the way you want to you can't let anything develop and the other
69:15thing is and this is why i'm including that piece of knowledge is i think from a dynasty perspective you probably have
69:21a nice buy low on tony pollard this week i mean he did nothing right because they didn't have the ball they
69:28couldn't establish a run game and so i think like for the panickers out there like if you're looking to stack some
69:34running back depth and you think you're making a playoff push in your league already and you're feeling good about your team
69:40i'd be sending a couple of thirds in the direction of a tony pollard owner and just hoping that i come home
69:47with uh with uh with with a lucky hall right so yeah there's probably still some some wandel wiggle room too i
69:53agree i agree that's you uh out there so anyway all right let's close that chapter hey i want to thank you
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