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1 hr 3 min
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Aug 4, 2026
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Tue, August 4, 2026
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Colston LovelandJameson WilliamsParker WashingtonAlvin KamaraAshton JeantyBrian Thomas Jr.Caleb DouglasD'Andre SwiftDavid MontgomeryElijah SarrattEmanuel WilsonGeorge HolaniJadarian PriceJames Cook
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Alvin Kamara

PositiveBust43:39

Alvin Kamara is considered 'dust' and unlikely to handle an every-down role. The team is expected to segment the backfield, and he is not a recommended target at his current cost.

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Ashton Jeanty

PositiveRole16:46

Ashton Jeanty is expected to handle a bell-cow role in the Raiders' offense under Clint Kubiak, with reports indicating increased involvement in the passing game and improvements to the offensive line. While he has significant upside, there is more uncertainty regarding the Raiders' overall offensive efficiency compared to the Bills.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeRole26:55

Brian Thomas Jr. is expected to serve as the deep-threat receiver in the Jaguars' offense, running routes that clear out defenses to open up space for underneath targets like Parker Washington.

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Caleb Douglas

PositiveSleeper55:08

Caleb Douglas is a deep sleeper who could see immediate impact for the Dolphins. He offers a unique combination of size and speed that the current wide receiver room lacks, positioning him to potentially play early.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeProjection39:48

Johnny Tuma views Colston Loveland as a talented tight end who could lead the team in receiving, but notes that for both him and Luther Burden to succeed, Caleb Williams would need to exceed 4,200 passing yards, which Tuma finds unlikely.

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PositiveBreakout41:25

Colston Loveland is viewed as an elite talent at tight end, comparable to Brock Bowers rather than Sam LaPorta. Despite a crowded target environment, his late-season usage in the playoffs—where he was a primary target for Caleb Williams on critical downs—suggests significant upside.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveValue34:56

Johnny Tuma considers DeAndre Swift a great value at his current ADP, noting his productive role in an ascending offense and his ability to function as a dual-threat back.

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David Montgomery

PositiveRole24:34

Johnny Tuma expects David Montgomery to step into a bell-cow role for the Texans, citing Dan Quinn's preference for a three-down back and the team's run-first identity. Despite concerns about the offensive line, Tuma views Montgomery as an insane value in the fourth or fifth round.

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Elijah Sarratt

PositiveSleeper56:38

Elijah Surratt is a preferred target over Jacoby Lane for the Ravens. He is viewed as a better fit for the offense due to his ability to play the power slot and catch passes over the middle, with high expectations for his long-term productivity.

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveSleeper46:24

Emmanuel Wilson is highlighted as a talented backup who has proven he can handle a full workload, making him a more intriguing late-round flyer than George Holani.

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George Holani

NegativeUsage46:24

George Holani is viewed as a pass-blocking specialist similar to LaQuint Allen, likely filling a third-down role rather than becoming a primary fantasy asset. While he is a late-round flyer in best ball, he is not expected to be a high-volume runner.

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Jadarian Price

PositiveSleeper46:24

Jadarian Price is a viable target as an RB3 with significant upside due to vacated opportunities in the Seahawks backfield. While there are concerns about his rookie ramp-up, he is preferred over other mid-round options like Chuba Hubbard or Tony Pollard if he falls in drafts.

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James Cook

PositiveUsage5:19

Zane Danani suggests James Cook is underrated due to a potential increase in pass-catching volume under new offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael, who historically utilizes running backs in the passing game. While Cook may see a slight reduction in carries to accommodate Ray Davis, the shift toward a 50-60% route share could add 1-2 fantasy points per game, potentially pushing him into the top-3 to top-5 RB threshold.

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Jameson Williams

NegativeProjection21:18

Johnny Tuma projects a solid floor for Jameson Williams, estimating around 1,000 yards and seven touchdowns, though he expresses limited personal enthusiasm for his upside compared to other options.

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NegativeValue32:35

Johnny Tuma views Jameson Williams as a boom-or-bust player compared to the more consistent PPR floor offered by Parker Washington, noting that in shallow-start leagues, the volatility of Williams makes him a less desirable asset.

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Kyle Monangai

NegativeDepth Chart32:09

Johnny Tuma is not actively drafting Kyle Monangai, viewing him as a replacement-level talent despite his efficiency last year. While he acknowledges Monangai's contingent upside if DeAndre Swift misses time, he prefers other options like RJ Harvey or Jonathan Brooks in that draft range.

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Luther Burden

PositiveBreakout37:48

Johnny Tuma is high on Luther Burden, citing Ben Johnson's praise of him as a 'YAC monster' and comparisons to Amon-Ra St. Brown and Jarvis Landry. Tuma believes Burden's role in the slot makes him a high-floor, high-ceiling asset in the Bears' offense.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout20:35

Parker Washington is a high-conviction breakout candidate in the Jaguars' offense. Reports from training camp indicate he is consistently on the field, including in 12 and 13 personnel sets, and is a focal point for offensive coordinator Liam Cohen. His usage in the slot and downfield, combined with his efficiency metrics (4th in explosive play rating), suggests he could provide significant PPR value.

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PositiveValue20:43

Johnny Tuma views Parker Washington as a high-upside play, noting that while Jameson Williams offers a solid floor of roughly 1,000 yards and seven touchdowns, Washington's upside tips the scales in his favor when comparing the two.

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Ray Davis

NegativeRole7:00

Ray Davis is expected to absorb some of the between-the-20s carries from James Cook, potentially taking two or three carries per game to allow Cook to focus more on pass-catching duties.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeRole37:32

Johnny Tuma expresses skepticism regarding Rome Odunze's fantasy outlook, noting that he is being utilized as an intermediate and deep threat, which may not align well with Caleb Williams' current accuracy issues.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeBust43:31

Travis Etienne is being faded because he is not viewed as an above-average NFL running back. His production is expected to be limited by a backfield split, and his past explosive plays were largely attributed to massive blocking lanes rather than individual talent.

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Travis Hunter

NegativeRole28:31

Travis Hunter is primarily lining up as an outside receiver in Jaguars training camp, which suggests he will not significantly cannibalize the slot snaps occupied by Parker Washington.

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Woody Marks

NegativeUsage25:06

Johnny Tuma views Woody Marks as a complementary piece rather than a lead back, noting his history of health issues and predicting he will likely fill a role similar to Dare Ogunbowale, focusing on pass protection and occasional routes rather than primary rushing duties.

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1:20Anheuser-Busch. Michelob Ultra Light Beer. St. Louis, Missouri. Welcome to The Deep End with Johnny Tuma.
1:25I'm your host and we have Zane Danani. Dude, this guy has been a machine this offseason.
1:30I'm sure you've seen him all over X. Nobody knows where he is right now.
1:35He's all blacked out. He's covert ops doing all this offseason work.
1:38Zane, how are you doing today, man? Well, you know, I'm in this like void area where you don't really know where I am.
1:46So I think I'm doing pretty well. But, you know, who knows what day or time it is right now.
1:52Yeah, it's game time for you, man. And, you know, I've been out of the podcasting streets for a couple of weeks.
1:58I had a baby on July 6th. I woke up my first baby.
2:02Thank you, sir. My daughter, Jane. And so I've been kind of, you know, it's my first show in a bit.
2:09So I'm going to be knocking the rust off today.
2:12Bear with me, viewers. And, you know, but again, this is what better guy to get on than you, man.
2:18You've been kind of keeping me abreast on X of all the things that are happening in OTAs.
2:24So we're going to talk through some of the major news that people need to be knowing going into draft season, things
2:30that are coming out of training camp and things that are news and noise, right?
2:35You've done a really good job of kind of demystifying that for your people on X.
2:40And for everybody, follow Zane on X. It's his name backwards, Danani Zane.
2:44And he does an absolute, I mean, dude, you're posting every three or four minutes relevant news.
2:49It's really a hard job you do. I actually started with Player Profiler's News Desk.
2:54And it's just a constant influx of information. You're having to parse through and decide what to put out there and what isn't relevant.
3:01And you do a really good job of getting all the relevant stuff in there.
3:06So love, I'm excited to dig in with you more.
3:09So let's just kind of start open-ended. What's your favorite most surprising piece of offseason news you've seen that you think people
3:15aren't really considering or maybe sweeping under the rug a bit?
3:19It's a good one. You know, I think that people are still a little, and this is talking about like a premier player.
3:26So again, we're still going to draft a guy like this.
3:29But I think people are kind of underrating what James Cook potentially having a bigger pass-catching role might look like.
3:35I did some analysis on this earlier in the offseason because I kept hearing it from multiple beats.
3:41Like, hey, the addition of Pete Carmichael, this Bills offense is potentially going to operate in a situation where they want to
3:47throw the ball to running backs more. Pete Carmichael operated with Alvin Kamara.
3:51He operated with LaDainian Tomlinson in the past. Obviously, we're dating ourselves.
3:55We're talking LT stats. But when you start talking about that and then you align it back to the information about James
4:02Cook and what his profile looked like coming out of college, I think it makes a lot of sense for them to potentially operate that way.
4:10That doesn't mean he's going to get more touches.
4:13Like, we're not saying, hey, he's going to get like the same amount of carries and then adding pass-catching volume on top of that.
4:20I think what we could see is let's lessen his workload between the 20s with Ray Davis and potentially give Ray Davis like two or three more carries.
4:29But let's add James Cook to this pass offense a little bit more because we're not giving away.
4:34And this is what a constant, like, drumbeat that I hear across this offseason, across a lot of coaches.
4:40I haven't heard it from the Bills coaches, so take that with a grain of salt.
4:45But a lot of coaches are talking about when they have personnel in the game, they don't want to give away whether it's a run or a pass.
4:53And if you start having James Cook in in pass-down situations, sometimes a little bit more, then the other team isn't like
5:00keying in on, hey, there's a run play, right?
5:03So if they uptick his like route share from like the 30% to kind of like a 50% or even 60% if
5:10we get super lucky, I think that's a little bit underrated.
5:13You're taking away maybe like two or three carries from him, but you might be adding two or three targets to him.
5:20And we know that targets are more valuable, especially in half PPR or PPR leagues for fantasy, because you end up usually getting more yards on those plays.
5:28And then obviously you add the point per reception or half point per reception.
5:32It just amounts to more. The math that I kind of did in the background was like, I think this might add
5:39up to more like one or two more fantasy points per game.
5:43That's pretty big when we're talking about a guy in the first round who already got like 18 or 19 last year.
5:50So adding that together, I really think that you could see him approach that 20 point per game threshold and 20 point per game threshold.
5:57If you look back in the past like three or four seasons, that's either top five or top three.
6:03It's usually top three last year would have been top five.
6:06And it's a great threshold to hit really sets you apart.
6:10So that's that's one that I'm thinking is like underrated type of news.
6:14Dude, I love that you actually brought that one up because I posted on my ex a few weeks ago.
6:20I said drafting James Cook in the first round like it feels gross, right?
6:24Because you're drafting a guy who's historically been like, you know, hasn't had as big of a role as we've wanted in the past game.
6:32He seems to just be have a lot of touchdown luck and solid efficiency on the ground.
6:37But it's almost like if you're going off of historics, those aren't the types of things you want to bet on going forward.
6:44But to your point, they bring in Joe Brady.
6:47They bring in some of those new offensive minds.
6:50And, you know, that was another thing that scared me off him a little bit was the idea that they just they
6:56spread the love there so much last year. But I do think we could see some more consolidation to him, to DJ Moore.
7:03I'm going to go ahead and pull up his player page on player profiler because I do think there's some interesting points
7:10you bring up here that we can see. So I'll go ahead and start with his best player comparable player, Travion Henderson.
7:17Right. This is a guy who's been able to prove that he can contribute in the passing game.
7:22And then when you talk about some of his usage, right, you mentioned his route participation.
7:27We have him at 41 percent. Not great. Right.
7:30But yards per reception, fifth in the NFL at running back at eight point eight yards per reception.
7:36Really solid 13th in yards per route run. So he's been effective when he's been targeted in the passing game.
7:42And I don't think that's news to anybody. I think that's you know, we all know that he can do that.
7:48He's that kind of back who has that agility and that just kind of fun to get the ball to in space.
7:55So this could be the year that he really brings it all together.
7:59The talent's never been a question for me. It's always been kind of that role.
8:03But Ray Davis, Ty Johnson, they don't scare me.
8:06So congratulations, man. You have officially made me change my tune.
8:10It's no longer gross to draft James Cook in the first round of fantasy.
8:14I'm probably going to start targeting him a lot more at the end of the first round because I was a little
8:21light on him earlier in the offseason. I really agree with everything you're saying.
8:25And I don't think his ADP has gone up at all really based on that information.
8:30So it's your point kind of being swept under the rug a bit.
8:34Yeah, I've actually moved him up to RB4 in my ranking.
8:37So I have, I have, I have Gibbs and then Bijan and then CMC.
8:41And I think that then, and then I have James Cook above Jonathan Taylor, above Ashton G&T.
8:47So that, that's how strongly I feel about it.
8:49Again, a lot of times early round, depending on what kind of like draft style you're doing, if you're doing a redraft
8:56league, like a home league or something, a lot of times you're trying not to lose.
9:01And I, I think that this is both not trying to lose.
9:05And then there's some additional upside for him based off of what we've seen in the past, because this bill's offense with
9:11Josh Allen at the helm is going to be good.
9:14So naturally James Cook is going to still have a really strong fantasy profile because they're not going to take away too
9:21much from them, even if they do take anything away.
9:24And then we're talking about the upside of pass catching.
9:27We see this for running backs sometimes where it's like, Hey, we like use them in the run game.
9:33They have this like pass catching profile. We are not going to add that to their, to their game until a little bit later on in their career.
9:42And then they do it. And then they have this season that just smashes all fantasy.
9:47I think we could see that for the, for James Cook this season.
9:51Yeah, man. I mean, that is super bullish RB for a guy who I'm really curious to talk about a little bit
9:57next, who also has some positive drumbeat, right? More involvement in the passing game, new offensive coaching, but it doesn't have the offense that the bills do.
10:06And that's the Raiders and Ashton Jindy, right? Like we've heard the reports you've been reporting on it, you know, more involved in the passing game.
10:14Clint Kubiak, absolute offensive mastermind, a guy who I would want to hitch my wagon to.
10:18But I think when you, you bring up some good points of like, which team is going to be scoring more, the bills or the Raiders, right?
10:27You want, if you're making that first round pick and you're deciding between Cook and Jindy, you might want to lean towards
10:33Cook just because he's in that, you know, he's in a much better offensive environment.
10:38But that being said, where does Jindy fall for you?
10:41Because for me, I'm like, if he's got a new coach, they've invested a little bit in the offensive line.
10:47They're saying they're going to get a more pass catching work.
10:51Why shouldn't he be locked in as a top 10 pick?
10:54Yeah, that's a good question. You know, I, and that's kind of what I'm thinking with James Cook and Ash, Ash and
11:01Jindy, I think we're going to see like a true bell cow role, right?
11:05So that's the reason why I think this is actually like relatively close.
11:09People have asked me for like where I would stack them.
11:12And I'm like, man, this is really tough because I do think that there's potential that we see some crazy season out of Ash and Jindy too.
11:21But we're not expecting that offense to be like anything super special.
11:24And so that's where I just kind of lean.
11:27Like, I feel like I could lose my draft taking an Ash and Jindy, not saying that he's going to be a bad player.
11:34I just think that there is some fluctuation in what that offense looks like.
11:39But then I look at James Cook and I'm like, I'm going to, I'm probably getting what I got last year.
11:45Let me just say that maybe, let's say that they regress that by a little bit.
11:50But I'm still going to end up in a really good spot from a fantasy perspective.
11:55So I feel pretty good about that pick, regardless of if he gets the pass catching work or not.
12:01And that's one of the reasons why I like to lean into that a little bit more than an Ash and Jindy at the moment.
12:08Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. And so we talked through a couple big, big bell cow running backs at the top of the rounds.
12:15Now I want to talk about one of my favorite players over the past season.
12:20I mean, this guy's been a guy I've been rooting for.
12:23I've been picking him up off waivers for the past year.
12:27And I've been trying to sell him because I was like, hey, I got him for nothing.
12:32What can I get for this guy? Parker Washington.
12:35Nobody wanted to give me anything. And it was at one point I was like, this guy is good at football.
12:41I was like in my lead chat, just telling everybody like, you guys do not know ball because they were like making
12:48fun of me when I put them on the trade block.
12:51They're like, oh, nobody wants your garbage. Parker Washington.
12:54And I'm like, this guy is like an alpha down the stretch last year.
12:58Right. And now the drumbeat all offseason has been so phenomenal.
13:02Right. He's the first guy in. He's the last guy out.
13:05He's earning the most targets and practices. And again, you seem to be a guy who can kind of say, hey, I'm
13:12not putting too much credence into this. But it sounds like for Parker Washington, like it's kind of hard to deny.
13:18Right. So the challenge there is that we know there's a bunch of talented pass catchers in that Jags wide receiver room.
13:25And it could be a scenario where really none of them pay off their ADPs.
13:29But I think it's really important to navigate this room properly to win your fantasy championship.
13:34So do you expect him to lead this wide receiver room?
13:38And if so, do you expect him to pay off his ADP?
13:41Yeah, I do. The thing that I think is really interesting, too, because a lot of this ADP stuff comes back to
13:48like you can't really stack rank all the players.
13:51The running backs will likely end up like rated higher than a receiver.
13:55So it really comes down to like your roster construction.
13:58Let's say that Parker Washington got like 900 yards and eight touchdowns or something like that.
14:03Would we feel good about it? I actually think that that that would make him like pretty much probably rated higher from
14:10a wide receiver ranking perspective versus his ADP. But when you stack him up with like running backs and other things like
14:16that, it wouldn't necessarily like pay off relative to like maybe a Tony Pollard, Juba Hubbard, whatever.
14:22But at the same time, the way that I think about this, you know, all the news that that I've that I've
14:28heard coming out of Jaguars camp, things that Liam Cohen has said pretty much points you to all roads lead to Parker
14:35Washington in a lot of different ways. I'm not sure who's paying attention to my ex.
14:40I think that I post something about Parker Washington almost every single day.
14:44But that's because I am trying to cover the thing that I think is most applicable to fantasy and the most hot
14:51button topic for fantasy this season, which I think is the Jaguars offense as a whole.
14:56And so I'm I'm diving as deep as possible into that situation, listening to every single press conference interview that Parker Washington does.
15:03Liam Cohen does Trevor Lawrence, whoever. And it's hard to ignore that Liam Cohen seems to unprompted, unprompted bring up Parker Washington in a lot of situations.
15:11And then same with Trevor Lawrence. And then when you talk to Parker Washington, too, it all kind of like you add
15:18the math together and it just points you back to him.
15:21So let me give an example. There's an interview with Liam Cohen right before training camp kicked off.
15:26He talked about how he texted Parker Washington before training camp the day before.
15:31And I made the whole like point that, you know, we've all been in relationships before.
15:36The person that texts first is the one that you think is the one that's going after the relationship a little bit more.
15:43Right. Like they're a little bit more invested. So Liam Cohen texted Parker Washington, asked him if he was ready for training camp.
15:50He said he's ready to kill. That's awesome. Then in that same interview, he asked he he was asked, like, what his
15:56favorite play is, if he could call one play.
15:59And he calls this dagger concept. Dagger concept is basically like you send someone deep and then you send a guy like
16:06on a deep like in route, basically over the middle of the field.
16:10For people who aren't even watching, I'm hoping that that makes a lot of sense.
16:15Anyway, the play is designed where Brian Thomas runs the deep route that clears out the defense.
16:20And then Parker Washington slips behind everybody and basically gets the ball.
16:23So he designed his dream play call is a play that's designed for Parker Washington.
16:28Then there's even more to this story. So then, you know, you get to some interviews with him talking about Parker Washington again.
16:35Talks about him being utilized as an outside or inside receiver.
16:38And then there's an interview with Parker Washington where he references a conversation that he had with Liam Cohen, where he says
16:45Liam Cohen told him to be ready to be in and 12 personnel and 13 personnel where there's one and two wide receivers on the field.
16:53Which is huge because we've been trying to. Yeah, yeah.
16:56We've been trying to diagnose like, is he just a slot receiver?
17:00Is he going to come off the field when they go into every receiver sets?
17:04And then the other last point that I have on this is I talked to a Jaguars reporter and he said that
17:11Travis Hunter is lining up as an outside receiver when he's in the game.
17:15I don't think we're going to see a lot of Travis Hunter in two or one wide receiver sets.
17:21And so that means that Parker Washington is most likely on the field when Travis Hunter is on the field as well.
17:28Then the last thing that I have on this, which is a lot.
17:32I know it's a lot of information. Beat reporter John Shipley yesterday wrote something about Parker Washington.
17:37And he said that he doesn't see him coming off the field very often, which I think is another notable note coming
17:44out of training camp, watching every single play, seeing who's on the field.
17:48I think that's been the biggest thing that people are worried about when it comes to Parker Washington and this like whole
17:55Jaguars rotation is who's going to be off the field.
17:58Like how much are they going to get to play, especially when you factor in Travis Hunter.
18:03And it sounds like Parker Washington is the guy that's just going to be in a lot.
18:08So I'm like fully bought in. And I think his skill set is perfect for that offense.
18:13We saw what 2024 Liam Cohen slot receiver did, which was Chris Godwin.
18:17He was wide receiver two when he played. And I'm not saying that that's what's going to end up happening here.
18:24I just think that he's a good, a good ADP bet and that there is upside for him to potentially even like smash fantasy.
18:31Dude, slot PPR is just a cheat code, right?
18:34And he's just, he's a phenomenal player. He's got his head on straight.
18:38And so just to recap, I think one of the most important things you, you took, I gleaned from some of the
18:45reports that you had surfaced was Travis Hunter playing on the outside.
18:48There was a lot of discussion. Oh, you know, are they going to eat into each other from a slot snaps perspective?
18:55Right. And if I, you know, they, they played Travis Hunter in the slot a lot in his rookie year.
19:01If you look at college, he really did excel as like a downfield receiver.
19:05So I think it's a, it makes a lot of sense.
19:09Liam Cohen's a sensible guy. And then just to pour a little more gas on this fire, like Parker Washington in a
19:15limited sample size last year, we have him in eighth and explosive plays, fourth and EPX explosive play rating.
19:21And again, a lot of that surfaced by 23 deep targets.
19:25And again, a lot of those did come out of the slot.
19:28So the beauty there is like, yeah, he's playing the slot.
19:32He's going to get you those underneath targets and that, that PPR gold, but he's not just a gadget guy.
19:38They're using him downfield to your point, those deep crossers.
19:41Like those are, that's how Puka Nakua has broken fantasy.
19:44Right. And so Parker Washington, I'll, I'll end on this.
19:47I have a guy trying to pry him from me now.
19:50And one of those leagues where I picked him up off waivers, he's got Jamison Williams.
19:55I like Jamison Williams. It's just a pretty, it's not a very deep.
19:59We only start seven in this league. And in those scenarios, I think you really can't live with as much boom or bust like a Jamison Williams.
20:08So we're basically discussing where he's almost willing to do a one-for-one trade for Jamison Williams at this point.
20:13And I'm holding off because I'm like, man, I really think Parker Washington could be better.
20:18In this specific format. And a couple of weeks into the year, we could just be looking at it like, oh, I'd rather have Parker Washington straight up.
20:27I think there's a big contract coming for him too.
20:30So he's just a guy who it's like, even when I'm getting a trade that I win with Jamison Williams, I'm still
20:37struggling to get rid of him, man. And I like Jamo, but this is just, this is kind of where I'm at.
20:43I'm that high on Parker Washington. Yeah, it was interesting.
20:46Someone asked me recently where I would kind of slot Parker Washington.
20:50And like if ADP wasn't a thing and it was right next to Jamo.
20:54So I think it's like almost like the perfect, like that is like the line.
20:59Like I call it the Wandi line. I don't know why, but I call it the Wandi line.
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21:18Like I'm not huge into Jamo, but I do know that he's going to get me like a very solid, like floor
21:25fantasy stat, like a thousand yards, seven touchdowns, something like that.
21:28But I feel like the upside of Parker Washington, like tips the scales a little bit, but I'm like neck and neck almost in that situation.
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21:41So I'm happy that you're, you're kind of seeing eye to eye with me, but I figured you, you couldn't be too
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24:34Let's get back into it, Zane. One of the players who I think we're eye-to-eye on here because, again, like I look at the role.
24:42I look at where they're going. I look at just all the information that we have.
24:47And everything about this just screams value to me.
24:50It's David Montgomery. This guy, again, Joe Mixon was an absolute unit in Houston until he blew his foot off.
24:56But I see him taking on that sort of bell cow role.
25:00We know Danico Ryans wants a guy who he can trust on all three downs, can involve in the passing game.
25:06Yeah, they've got Woody Marks. Woody Marks also was on and off the field a lot last year dealing with ailments.
25:12I like Woody Marks, but I like him as kind of a complementary role.
25:17I really see David Montgomery stepping into a bell cow role this year on the team.
25:22It's going to have a strong defense that's going to want to be run first.
25:26And, you know, the one gripe I've heard is that they don't have a good offensive line.
25:31This is to be determined. They have made a ton of investments this offseason in the offensive line.
25:37Again, the people who do the line rankings are still going to tell you they're one of the worst in the NFL.
25:44I would just say, like, let's see how that new unit looks before we make any definitive statements there.
25:49And all that said, the role being on an offense that we expect to be run first and getting this guy in
25:56the fourth or fifth round of drafts just feels like such an insane value to me.
26:01One of the biggest on the board across all of the drafts that I'm in until his ADP has been climbing a little bit.
26:08But, I mean, he's one of my highest exposure players just in terms of I've never really even been a Montgomery fan.
26:15Like, I was always praying for him to come off the field because I've been a Gibbs owner.
26:21Right. But now in this role, I'm all in on him this year.
26:25What do you think? Yeah, this is one that I think is going to help determine fantasy.
26:30I think this could determine a lot of fantasy leagues, actually, because he goes at a place where, you know, fourth, fifth
26:37round, depending on what format you're in. I think I think it's a place where you're either going to get it fully right or fully wrong.
26:45It's either that he's going to be this bell cow or that he's sharing this role in an offense that's not like
26:51going to be some sort of like, you know, powerhouse offense.
26:55From what I've read, it's kind of a I've gotten a little bit of a mixed bag opinion between like there's a
27:01Jane Slater report that said they were going to split.
27:04And then there was Aaron Wilson, who's kind of been more on the like Joe Mixon usage type of thing.
27:11A lot of people have messaged me about the Joe Mixon thing and said, hey, like the offense coordinator is different.
27:17So does that like matter? And I think I think it's more of an identity thing with Demick O'Ryan's like that he
27:24would like to operate in a situation where he would like his offense to be leaning on the run game.
27:30And he would like for his offense to have kind of like that one designated running back who can kind of do it all.
27:37And I see I see the reasons why to fade like the reasons why to fade are like this is a profile
27:44that this guy's a little bit older. He hasn't really done all the touch volume in recent seasons.
27:50And and, you know, we get scared by all that kind of stuff.
27:53And people think about the running back dead zone and like to bring up David Montgomery's name, because it's not like the
28:00young guy who's like all always been like this past catching back and whatnot.
28:05Right. But he can do he can do the past catching work.
28:08It's just that they had Jameer Gibbs. Right. So that that's one reason to believe in it.
28:13I'm also kind of leaning that that it will be more of like a Joe Mixon type of role.
28:19And so I've actually taken on a lot in my drafts.
28:23I can again, I can see this being something that burns burns me in certain ways because there's like mixed opinions on what that usage looks like.
28:31But I don't think that the team really wanted to lean into Woody Marks last year.
28:36And also Woody Marks is not necessarily the the personification of health.
28:39Like he went to the to the what was it, the the blue tent, I think, in every single game.
28:46And for people that are basketball fans, I like to equivalent equivalent it to Anthony Davis, where it's like this guy, this
28:52guy literally just went to the locker room again for like the millionth time every single game.
28:57And that's that's kind of how I see the situation potentially playing out.
29:01Let's say that it is some sort of share shared role a little bit at the beginning.
29:07There's also a lot of opportunity where Woody Marks gets hurt.
29:10But Woody Marks was billed as more of like a pass catching back coming out of college.
29:15No one even thought that he was going to do much in the run game.
29:20So at the very least, I think that David Montgomery will have pretty much most of the rushing game work.
29:26And then this is again, it goes back to what we were talking about before.
29:31But like coaches don't want to give up run pass splits with with personnel.
29:35And I don't see a reason why they'd want to take David Montgomery off the field just to put in Woody Marks
29:42if they're saying, hey, we want to pass the ball, because that tells the other team that we're going to pass the ball.
29:49So I see Woody Marks in potentially more of a Daria Gumbawale role, which is like third down, long down and distance
29:55does not necessarily mean it means that he's running a route.
29:59It's like pass pro and then leaking out sometimes.
30:01Whereas David Montgomery, first, first down, second down, or even third down whenever it's like third and two or four or something
30:08like that in the game playing more of that bell cow role.
30:12And if that's the case, we're talking about RB one type of usage.
30:16And I don't think he's going anywhere near where an RB one goes right now.
30:20So, yeah, no, glad we're eye to eye on this.
30:24I got Woody Marks his page up. I like I like the player comp Kenneth Gainwell, right?
30:29Like, you know, can do some receiving work. Kenneth Gainwell has really come on in the last year, but I think historic
30:35Kenneth Gainwell is almost a better comp. And then, you know, you look at the three yards per carry, three and a half, 61st in the NFL.
30:44I think I have David Montgomery at 4.2 yards per carry last year.
30:48You're certainly getting a better pure runner with David Montgomery.
30:51Tough guy and a guy who can. He can bust a long play in the passing game, David Montgomery, even though he's not a burner.
30:58I swear I would, again, watch him, waiting for Jameer Gibbs to get valuable touches.
31:03I'd watch him drop a screen pass for Montgomery and watch him take 60 yards, right?
31:08So and kind of be grimacing a little bit.
31:11But I think if you've been a Gibbs fan in the years past and David Montgomery has kind of pissed you off,
31:17this is the time to lean into him, have him kind of write the ship for you.
31:23So we're all in on David Montgomery here as a collective.
31:26I love that. Let's talk the Bears a little bit, man.
31:29There's been some funny stuff going on with the Bears.
31:32Let's start with Kyle Manungai. Just, you know, again, one of the kind of top list of RB2s that you can go after, right?
31:40Blake Corum, him. These are guys where it's like, if anything happens to DeAndre Swift, Kyle Manungai is almost a top 10 set in for running back.
31:48But he's been missing some practices. It sounds like it's a soft tissue injury.
31:52It went a couple days without being reported. Can you just share with me a little bit of your perspective there?
31:59And if it's anything to worry about going into the season?
32:02Yeah, for now, I'm not really that worried. I mean, today, which is Monday, August 3rd, we saw that he was in full pads today.
32:10He didn't do all of practice. He went in to the training room kind of like midway through practice, like as part
32:16of the plan, not because he got re-injured or anything like that.
32:20But for now, I'm just going to take it at face value.
32:24Like, hey, he was out there practicing. He's probably fine.
32:27That doesn't mean that I'm in on Kyle Manungai by any means.
32:31Last year, the funny thing is, last year, he was like one of my flag plants of late round players.
32:37I was super in on him being like a David Montgomery-ish type of role for the Bears because I was really tracking
32:43what was going on for the Bears. But that was when we were talking about like an 18th round pick.
32:50Like, now we're talking about like an 8th, 9th round pick.
32:53And yeah, I just don't see it that much.
32:56I just don't. I think that this team operates best when they have DeAndre Swift in the game because of what because
33:02he actually ran the offense last year. Like he did what was designed for him to do something that he wasn't doing when he was with the Lions.
33:11And again, he just presents more of a like dual threat type of running back situation for the team.
33:17I do think that Manungai will still get a lot of work.
33:20He'll probably do a lot of the like short down and distance type of stuff like third and one.
33:26Like, let's get Manungai in the game to bowl over the defense.
33:30Might get some touchdowns. I'm just not like really interested as much in the talent profile.
33:35I think that this was like a very replacement level kind of like talent.
33:39So that's why I'm not really like super, super into him because I do think that he could be easily replaceable in this offense.
33:46Let's see. Let's say he's not like the most efficient guy.
33:50Like he was pretty efficient last year on his opportunities from a success rate perspective.
33:54But let's say that he regresses there. Like, would they hesitate to potentially put in somebody else or get some sort of,
34:01you know, veteran or something like that? I could.
34:04I mean, I could see it happen. He was a seventh round pick.
34:08So, again, I'm not like super interested in his profile.
34:11I know that his run game is going to be great.
34:14And that's the reason why you probably invest in this specific situation.
34:18It isn't a talent, but it's a his running game is going to be like a top five run game in the NFL.
34:25So let's say DeAndre Swift gets hurt and he already has some sort of role.
34:30Is he going to be the full on like player?
34:33We saw it a little bit last year, but again, I'm I'm not like fully invested in the talent.
34:39So it's not a guy that I'm drafting actively right now.
34:42Yeah, I think, you know, to your point, there's not a lot of allegiance with seven round draft picks, right?
34:48There's not a lot of investment there. So they just don't have that same level of, you know, willing to stick with
34:55them through the highs and lows of their career.
34:58It is a fantastic offensive line. And there's certainly some contingent upside if Swift goes down.
35:02But I think all in all, to your point, Swift is a great value at ADP.
35:07This is, you know, a player who's who's was productive last year and is in that kind of one a role in an ascending offense.
35:15And to your point, I think when I get in that those rounds in that range, whenever I see RJ Harvey slipping that far, I'm taking him.
35:23I'm even taking some shots on Jonathan Brooks, who, to your point, from just a talent profile perspective, I think presents more upside.
35:30So I'm not heavy on Mononghi. But I do like the idea of sprinkling him in and some best ball drafts, because,
35:37again, when when Swift went down, they did give him that that bell cow usage.
35:42And he was very productive from a fantasy perspective.
35:44So love talking to that with you a little bit.
35:47Appreciate your your sentiment there and kind of not you're not sitting on the fence with these takes, man.
35:53I like that, too, that you're given the the news, but you're also telling me where you see it falling.
35:59And so I think the hardest one will be the Bears wide receiver room.
36:04Right. I'm I'm kind of a burden guy. I lived in St.
36:07Louis for a few years. You know, I was coming watching him coming out of high school, knowing to keep an eye on him.
36:15Sophomore year was just blown away by what he did at Mizzou.
36:18Terrible junior year. Tanked his draft stock. Should have been a first round pick, you know, if he would have just not really had an abysmal junior year.
36:27But showed the flashes of why he was a five star recruit and why he was that type of highly touted prospect.
36:34Has all the tools. Now we've got Ben Johnson and everybody in the Bears organization absolutely raving about this guy.
36:40You combine that with Romo Dunze having a new normal with his foot, which he kind of clarified.
36:45Hey, I might that that quote is being misconstrued.
36:48And I still am not blown away by what I've seen from Romo Dunze the first couple of seasons.
36:54So I'm willing to place my bet that. Burden is the top receiving option in this offense from a wide receiver.
37:00But that being said, I'm probably still leaning towards Colston Loveland as the guy I'd rather have at cost and probably their leading receiver.
37:08And I don't know what I don't even want to call him a value at this point because the ADP is kind of baked in there.
37:16But I do think he will probably be their leading pass catcher.
37:19But I'm curious to hear what your perspective is.
37:22Yeah, I think it's interesting. So following all the news out of training camp, Luther Burden has looked really good.
37:28So has Colston Loveland. Rome, you don't hear that much about.
37:32So I don't think it's any question as to who the top receiver is going to be for the like wide receiver
37:38is going to be for the Bears. Then I like I like to put this on top of what the news has said.
37:45Right. So the big thing for me is Ben Johnson has talked about Luther Burden as this yak monster.
37:51He literally used that phrase like yak monster. Right.
37:54So what does that mean? That usually means, hey, we're going to try to get like this guy in space and get him the ball.
38:02When he talks about Roma Dunze, he talks about him as more of a like intermediate and deep threat.
38:07Intermediate and deep threat isn't necessarily a good like fit with Caleb Williams at the moment.
38:12Caleb Williams has notably been one of the like least accurate quarterbacks in the NFL since he came in.
38:18And yes, he has room to improve. Obviously, he could get better.
38:22But at the same time, the targets that are going to be easier for him to complete are going to be these
38:28underneath kind of like routes, short intermediate. I also did research this offseason to talk about like comparing this like deeper threat
38:35role versus short intermediate type of role. And the math is just like fully on guys that run short, shorter routes because
38:42they're just a part of the offense more often.
38:45And that has that's half PPR, full PPR. They're bigger booms.
38:48They're also fewer busts. And so I just think that all of that math leads you to a Luther Burden situation.
38:54And then there was the quotes that came out today on August 3rd, Monday, that were about Ben Johnson talking about Luther Burden.
39:02And he compared him to Amon Ross St. Brown and Jarvis Landry, two guys that he's coached in the past, were also notably slot receivers.
39:09And that that Ben Johnson slot receiver role has just printed in fantasy.
39:13Like we're talking even Jarvis Landry season, you know, we don't think about him as like some smash fantasy player, but there
39:20were some seasons there where he did get like these crazy numbers relative to what Jarvis Landry is known for, where I
39:27think he had over 100 receptions and over 1000 yards.
39:30And if you got that out of Luther Burden, even at a fourth round cost where he's going right now, like you'd probably be pretty happy.
39:38And I think Luther Burden is a more talented, like yards after catch receiver, more dynamic, more than Jarvis Landry is by any stretch.
39:45And so I think that he has the opportunity to ascend.
39:48And when you try to compare it to Colston Loveland, so I wrote about this today too on Twitter.
39:54Very long post because there was something that was talking about Colston Loveland and how he's going to play, be featured, all sorts of stuff.
40:02Research that I've done in the past points me to, okay, for both of these guys to be hits, Burden versus Loveland
40:09at their ADPs right now, it's likely that Caleb Williams would have to throw for something like 4,200 plus pass yards.
40:15And I just don't think he's going to get there because I do think that Ben Johnson wants to lean on the run game more.
40:23And I also just don't see Caleb Williams as like this crazy elite passer by any means.
40:28So that means that only one of these two guys can pay off.
40:32In most situations, if a receiver is like an ascending talent, like approaching elite, not necessarily elite, but let's just say like
40:39the line is a T Higgins level type of player where he's like a good, really good receiver.
40:44They usually end up being the better player than the tight end.
40:48But Colston Loveland is closer to being an elite tight end than Luther Burden is to being a, an elite or a T Higgins level receiver.
40:56So it really is like one of those things where if you land on one side, one side, there's going to be
41:02the people that are like, Hey, I don't think that Luther Burton is going to ascend to that level of talent.
41:09And then if that's, if that's your take, then you should be leaning into Colston Loveland.
41:14If you do think that he's going to ascend to that level of talent, then you should be leaning into Luther Burden.
41:21I think that he is going to ascend to that level of talent.
41:25So that's why I'm leaning burden, but I can see why people would say, Hey, I want to lean into Colston Loveland.
41:31Cause I, I get it. Like you're, we're all trying to be talent evaluators and understand whether we think that this guy
41:38is going to be an elite, elite player. Um, and the way that he reaches that is, is him taking another step
41:45in terms of route running and being involved in the offense and stuff.
41:49And I think that he can do it. Yeah.
41:51I think devil's advocate for me is just down the stretch last year, Colston Loveland's role.
41:56And in the playoffs, just like averaging like 11 targets per game or something stupid.
42:01And it was like, even when he wasn't as productive down the stretch, it was like when they were on third and
42:08fourth down and the game was on the line, it felt like, Oh, you know, we'd been playing cool.
42:13Come at all game. All right. Now let's get cool.
42:17It's getting leveling out there. And Caleb Williams was looking for him every time.
42:21So I just kind of see with his size.
42:24I've, I've been outward that. I see him more like a Brock Bowers than I do, you know, Sam LaPorta.
42:30Let's just say like, I see this guy as a truly elite type of talent at tight end.
42:35So I've been outwardly for years now. I said that he was going to be the first tight end drafted last year when everyone was saying Tyler Warren.
42:44I just see a guy who looks different on film to me.
42:47So, but it is going to be tough because there's a lot of solid targets there.
42:52And, you know, I think to your point, they're going to lean on the rub game.
42:57They're going to want to spread the ball around.
43:00So that's kind of where you just got to pick your guy.
43:04Right. And I'm happy sprinkling both those guys in when they, when they fall to me and kind of living with the consequences.
43:11So, all right, man, we talked some big offenses.
43:14We talked some bell cows. Let's close it out with a few kind of like interesting running back rooms.
43:19You know, Alvin Kamara been getting reps with the first team, been heavily involved in the past game, this whole career.
43:26Etn's ADP is, is pretty high. I have, I do not have very much Travis Etn.
43:31And I think that's the question. Do you think, should Alvin Kamara be getting drafted higher?
43:36And should he, is Etn priced too high? I'm not, I'm not like super into Alvin Kamara only because I, like, I understand like the pass catching role.
43:44I just don't think that they will use him as like a every down running back.
43:49If, if I'm going to call him Travis Etn now, I guess.
43:53Oh, yeah. Um, I, I just don't think that they would use him in like an every down role anymore, just because
43:59we've seen like a lot of it gets zapped out of him.
44:03And I do think that they have like a collection of interesting talent as like RB three and four behind him.
44:10So I think that they would kind of like figure out a way to like segment it a little bit more.
44:16Um, so I'm not like that interested in Alvin Kamara at his cost.
44:20Um, because I think that there's other like handcuffs where I think they can take over like the whole backfield instead.
44:26Yeah. But I'm also not into Travis Etn either.
44:29Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and a lot of that comes back to, I do think this will be some sort of
44:36split, like regardless of if it's Etn getting a lot of the, um, rushing work and Kamara getting a lot of the
44:43pass down work, or if they kind of do some weird, like, okay, one A, one B.
44:48Like, I just think that it's going to end up in a weird spot like that where they are going to do that kind of split.
44:56And I also just don't think that, um, like the film, I did a whole like film series on, uh, Travis Etn and Basial Tootin last year.
45:04Um, and when I watched the film, I didn't see anything special out of Travis Etn.
45:09He had some crazy explosive plays. And let me just say that a lot of those were on plays where it was
45:16like, you could drive a truck through this. I could, I could bring the whole one.
45:21Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And, and I'm not trying to say like, he's not a talented player.
45:25Like he's obviously got some talent. It takes a lot to be like featured in the NFL in general.
45:31Um, but what I'm getting at is that I just, I don't see him being like above and above average running back in the NFL.
45:39And I think that where he's going, it requires him to be either an above act, like a, a really good running
45:46back or to, to have a really good role.
45:48And I don't think he has either of those.
45:51So that's why I've been basically fading him right now.
45:54Yeah, no, great answers as a guy who's rode the back of Alvin Kamara for many years to many fantasy championships.
46:01It's kind of hard, right? You hang on to those priors a little bit, but he's dust.
46:06Like it is what it is. He's, he's dust now.
46:09Um, so we'll just see how that unfolds. But as of now, I don't think a Chan is, is necessarily, um, to
46:16your point, talented enough to fully like take, take the backfield over for himself.
46:20So, um, another backfield that's super interesting to me is the Seahawks and the Seajarion Price.
46:25Uh, I, I liked, I was sprinkling in a little Emmanuel Wilson early in the off season before they drafted Price.
46:31Still think he's probably the second most talented running back in terms of like fantasy upside.
46:36But then you've got George Helani who's getting, you know, praise from John Schneider for his pass blocking during the Super Bowl
46:43run, getting burned with the first team, you know, being the first running back out there.
46:48I personally think that is a hundred percent noise.
46:51And like, you're basically looking at like a LaQuint Allen type of fantasy profile with a George Helani, like a guy who,
46:57well, Quint Allen played a lot of third down snaps, but it got very few targets.
47:02It was out there, you know, picking up pass protections and doing the dirty work as opposed to being a fantasy asset.
47:09That's sort of where I see George Helani. I've, I've been kind of avoiding him.
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48:37Anheuser-Busch. Michelob Ultra, light beer. St. Louis, Missouri. Yeah, I think it's situational based off of what kind of league you're in.
48:44Like in best ball leagues and stuff like that, I've been taking some George Alani at the end.
48:49I do think the team trusts him at least in this third down kind of pass catching role.
48:55We like to think through the situation that we saw in previous seasons where it's like, hey, there's a 1A and then
49:02there's a 1B with Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet.
49:04So can George Alani fill that role? I don't necessarily know, but I mean, we're talking about late round picks, so it feels fine to do that.
49:13And the team has talked a lot about him.
49:15I understand the reason why people would want to be interested in Jadarian Price.
49:20I mean, first round running back, you know, there's a lot that there's not much out there in terms of like proven
49:26talent, proven NFL talent when it comes to the Seahawks running back room.
49:30And we're talking about a good team that should be leaning on the run because their defense is so good.
49:37I just get a little bit scared about the fact that I do think that they want to kind of ramp him a little bit slow.
49:44Like he had, I don't know how you feel about it, but I wasn't super into his profile coming into the draft.
49:51I think if he came out a year earlier that he may have been a third round pick, maybe a fourth round.
49:58Like, I don't know. Like, I would have had, I definitely would have had Travion and Quinchon Judkins above him, no questions asked.
50:05Right. And that even like my analytics would have pointed me towards Bashel Tootin above him.
50:10But I could see why someone would say, OK, I want Jadarian Price over Bashel Tootin in that draft.
50:16So like, that's the other thing that I keep coming back to is.
50:20Did they think that they wouldn't be able to get Jadarian Price at their next pick?
50:25And that's the reason why they just did it there.
50:28And their team is pretty much set up for everything else right now.
50:32And I, so I'm, I'm kind of leaning towards, I don't really believe in Jadarian Price, but he is in a spot
50:38where it's like, you know, after Bashel Tootin in drafts, it gets to Chuba Hubbard and Tony Pollard.
50:44It's like the next running backs that are like going between Tootin and, yeah, between Tootin and Tony Pollard, you get Jadarian Price.
50:51And I think that's probably the right spot for him.
50:54But there's a few wide receivers that go like between all of that that I'm more interested in, like Parker Washington, for instance.
51:01And so, and so like, I haven't taken a ton of Jadarian Price because of that.
51:06And the quarterbacks start going in that range where it's like Drake May, Jaden Daniels, stuff like that, that I'm also interested in.
51:13So I haven't taken a ton of Jadarian Price, but if he fell closer to a Tony Pollard or a Chuba Hubbard,
51:20that's where I'm kind of like, yeah, I would take him above those guys.
51:24Because I think that there's just a lot of upside in his offensive situation.
51:28He will, I guarantee you, he's going to be involved.
51:31It's just a matter of how involved he is.
51:34And so I'm fine with taking that risk as like my RB3 and saying, I don't need to start this guy right
51:41now, but I can kind of wait out and see what goes on.
51:45Zach Charbonnet might come back into the fold maybe in October or November.
51:49And we can kind of like let this whole thing play out.
51:52And maybe I get this like crazy upside player that I didn't necessarily need to count on at the beginning.
51:59But yeah, that's kind of how I'm playing it right now.
52:02Yeah, it's interesting. I'll offer a bit of like a contrarian approach because I do think he's a bit of almost like a solid zero RB build.
52:10Like you can target wide receiver heavy. And if he does hit, there's some upside there.
52:15There's over like 400 vacated opportunities when you factor in, you know, Charbonnet missing a good chunk of the year and Kenneth Walker being gone.
52:23Someone's got to step up, take a good bulk of that action.
52:26I think it will be Price. Price. I think he's solid at his current ADP.
52:31But again, like I think there's some upside there.
52:34But this is coming from a guy, me, who was like not intrigued by the profile.
52:39But sometimes you have to follow the draft capital.
52:41And I heard someone bring this up. It's almost like the Clyde Edwards-Alaire corollary.
52:46Like team wins a Super Bowl, reaches for a position of need in the first round.
52:51And it was gross. But even Clyde Edwards-Alaire like paid off at ADP in his rookie year, right?
52:56And I think Janarian Price, probably a little more exciting size-wise.
52:59And, you know, it's shown some kick return chops, some ability to break out some explosive plays.
53:05So I get more excited about him than, you know, Clyde Edwards-Alaire in that scenario, in that kind of comparison.
53:11So I'm fine with taking him at where he's at.
53:14Again, I'm kind of staying away from George Helani for the most part.
53:18I agree with you. There's some, you know, unknown there that it's worth taking some late round flyers on.
53:24But I'm also, like, I'll be the first to say I'm not afraid to sprinkle in a little Emmanuel Wilson, too, just through that same context.
53:32I think the film was not terrible on Emmanuel Wilson in the one game that Jacobs missed last year.
53:37I think he had, like, over 100 yards and two touchdowns.
53:41So he's shown that ability to take the bull.
53:44So that intrigues me more than a guy like Helani who had, like, it's not like 13 carries his whole career, right?
53:50Wilson's shown the ability to do that in, like, a single game, right?
53:54So, okay, let's close out. Give me one rookie sleeper you expect to have immediate impact in 2026.
54:00Ooh, Jordan Tyson. Well, I don't know if that's, like, a sleeper or not.
54:04I'm just going to say Jordan Tyson. Yeah, it's not, dude.
54:07But you can explain him. But we need to go a little deeper than that.
54:12Give me some names. Give me what you think is, like, a sleeper-level type player, and I'll tell you what one's my favorite.
54:19I think he's going to be a player, Cyrus Allen, right?
54:22Malik Benson's kind of intriguing. Yeah. And that range of players?
54:26That's, like, super deep. Yeah, but one of them will be relevant, right?
54:30And you're the guy that I need to give me that information because you're parsing through all these offseason reports.
54:36I think everybody's going to tell you it's Cyrus Allen based on what we've heard early out of the Chiefs camp.
54:42I just don't put a lot of credence into that because we've been burned so many times with these offseason hype Chiefs
54:49players that there's got to be a guy, like a Brennan Thompson for the Chargers, right, who could really carve out a role in an offense.
54:57Maybe it's a running back, right? Nick Singleton. There's some interest there, right?
55:01So I'm curious what your perspective is. Yeah. It's going to be a receiver, and it's probably – so if you're talking
55:08about a media impact, like someone that could just randomly do a lot, it's going to be Caleb Douglas.
55:14I think he's positioned really nicely to do a lot for this team because everything that I've read out of the Dolphins
55:20training camp is, like, one, he's had good practices, but good relative to, like, Tutu Atwell, Jalen Tolbert type players who are, like, nothing, right?
55:28But, too, like, he presents something different for the team that they don't currently have, at least with their healthy wide receivers.
55:35Chris Bell is probably, like – he would be closer to this than anybody else.
55:39But it's the combination of size and speed that they just don't have with the current wide receiver room.
55:45Malik Washington, Kevin Coleman, who is from your general region in the St.
55:49Louis area. And then Jalen Tolbert and Tutu Atwell, those are, like, not big receivers, and they kind of like what Caleb
55:56Douglas offers with being, like, more of an outside, fast, bigger receiver.
56:00So, I could see him, like, playing a lot early.
56:03I wasn't, like, into the talent coming out of college, but, like you said, like a fifth-round rookie pick, if the guy's
56:09going to play, that's actually pretty big from that vantage point because he gets an opportunity, and we get to see whether
56:16or not this guy's actually valuable a lot sooner than we get some of these other fifth-round dudes who just take, like,
56:23three years to develop, and then we still don't ever see them really play.
56:27So, I think he's kind of interesting from that perspective.
56:30And then, I don't know if these guys qualify either, but Jacoby Lane and Elijah Surratt are two guys that I'm kind of interested to.
56:38I do think that they have an opportunity. The quotes out of Baltimore training camp and OTAs have been that one of
56:45these two guys has an opportunity to get in the mix, right?
56:48So, Devontae Walker plays a lot more similar to a Rashad Bateman type of role.
56:53I do think that Devontae Walker will start out as the wide receiver three for the Ravens, but that doesn't mean that
57:00he ends up being the wide receiver three long term.
57:03I do think that one of Jacoby Lane and Elijah Surratt are more, like, they're better fits for the offense because of what they offer.
57:10They're not, like, deep threats. They're guys that do, like, short intermediate type of stuff.
57:15So, Zay Flowers does all three. He's a three-level threat, which is great.
57:19That's why he's an elite player. And then Rashad Bateman is more of a deep threat.
57:24So, I think you need guys that can kind of be more diverse than what a Devontae Walker offers.
57:30And I was really impressed with Elijah Surratt's film.
57:32A guy, like, a big-bodied receiver that can do, like, power slot stuff and catch things over the middle of the field.
57:39So, he's the one that I've been more interested in investing in.
57:43But, you know, if you're taking swings and, let's say, Elijah Surratt's off the board, I don't think Jacoby Lane is a
57:49bad swing either because they drafted him higher. And they're both basically competing for that same role.
57:55So, who are we to say that they're going to, you know, that the guy with the better film that I think
58:01has the better film is the right pick? I think it's fine to just kind of, like, roll the dice and pick
58:08one of the two and see which one ends up working out if you had that pick.
58:13So, those are the two that I'm kind of, like, interested in from, like, a wide receiver perspective.
58:19Guys that I think could actually end up being, like, a wide receiver, too, for the Ravens long term.
58:25Yeah, I love the Caleb Douglas shout-out. That's a deep enough cut.
58:28I'll let that one. That one definitely counts. And then if I'm hitching my wagon to one of those Ravens rookies, it's got to be Elijah Surratt.
58:37And I think this will go down as, like, one of those ultimate, like, fantasy analysts do know a little bit more than, like, even the NFL GMs.
58:45Like, DaCosta, I think, said he leaned on Madden ratings at one point for some of his player evaluations or something like that.
58:52They do it. I'm not saying they do a good or bad job evaluating players.
58:57My point is there's so many times where us fantasy community were, like, this is clearly going to be the more productive pro.
59:04And then they get drafted after a guy like Jacoby Lane, but they still end up being the more productive pro, right?
59:11And so I love it. That's kind of where I'm taking the stance is, like, I think Surratt, even though he's drafted later, will be a better pro.
59:19And the whole fantasy community will be, like, yeah, we could have told you that.
59:24Maybe we should be the GM and we should be drafted next time, right?
59:28But that's not why they pay us the big bucks.
59:31We're not GMs, but we like to pretend we can be sometimes.
59:35And I'm kind of with you. Surratt had some enticing films.
59:38Just a guy who's been very productive every stop of his college career.
59:42And, you know, good reports about a head on his shoulders.
59:45I like all that stuff, too. I got to meet Jacoby Lane at the NFL Combine.
59:50Also a great kid. Young, right? He's a junior to Claire, one of only a few in this entire class, actually.
59:57So there's some upside there, but I think he's got a way to go in terms of development.
60:02So, all right, man. Awesome show. We've hit him with a bunch of hard-hitting news.
60:07What is your – well, last – I'll wrap up.
60:10I'll say follow Zane on X, add to Nani Zane.
60:13Anything else you want to shout out? Yeah, so I've got my own YouTube show where I go over all the news and notes.
60:20It's called The Cut-Up Show. You guys can find it there.
60:24You can also find it on Apple and Spotify.
60:26Just search The Cut-Up. I actually started it as a film analysis type of thing, and then I got into the news,
60:33and then now I'm blending the news with the analysis and all sorts of stuff.
60:38So it is pretty comprehensive. Like, I go through every single thing that I tweet, and then I go through my own
60:45takes on all those things that I've tweeted. So I think it's a great place for people to start.
60:50You can go back to the beginning and see all of the drumbeat of what's happened from OTAs to now, and I've
60:57actually improved quite a bit since then, which is good.
61:00And then the other thing is my written content and some podcast content will be elsewhere.
61:05I will be announcing that here in the next couple of days, but I'm no longer with Fantasy Points.
61:11You guys can follow me on X and figure out where all that's going to be here in maybe three days or so.
61:18Very exciting, man. I'll be waiting with bated breath.
61:21I'm excited to see what's next for you. Close the viewers out.
61:24Give us one bold prediction for the 2026 season.
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