Future 1st Podcast - Ep. 45 - 2026 Breakouts (w/ Chev)
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1 hr 28 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Jun 2, 2026
Published
Tue, June 2, 2026
45
Player insights
30
Players mentioned
Topics
Elijah SarrattCam WardParker WashingtonQuinshon JudkinsTyler WarrenBrian Thomas Jr.Carnell TateColston LovelandGeorge PickensBlake CorumCalvin RidleyChase BrownHunter HenryIsaiah Likely
Player analysis
Player insights
Blake Corum
PositiveRole0:12
Jay Mack really didn't want to let go of Blake Corum in the trade, believing he has a growing role in the Rams offense.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeRole0:35
Brian Thomas Jr. completely busted in 2025 and the role the Jaguars want him to play is not what he would excel at, making him a candidate to be traded or moved out of the offense.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:37
The biggest question with Brian Thomas Jr. is whether he has good chemistry with Trevor Lawrence and if he's simply not the read Lawrence looks for, which remains unresolved from his 2025 performance.
Insight pageCalvin Ridley
PositiveRole0:40
Calvin Ridley is no longer a primary target option for the Titans, with only a shadow of his former role remaining in the wide receiver room.
Insight pageCam Ward
PositiveProjection18:03
Cam Ward showed development as a rookie, taking fewer sacks in multiple games compared to typical rookie QB struggles, demonstrating improved pocket presence and decision-making that bodes well for his 2026 breakout potential.
Insight pagePositiveRole18:24
Cam Ward needs to continue developing and the offense needs to get him the ball consistently; his progression is evident and he should take another step forward in 2026.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout22:25
Cam Ward's presence in the pocket is underrated and shows elite-level skill; his ability to step up, move in the pocket, and make off-platform throws demonstrates Mahomesian potential that excites analysts.
Insight pageCarnell Tate
PositiveBreakout0:40
Carnell Tate is the highest wide receiver ever drafted by the Tennessee Titans and should be Cam Ward's number one read with no true alpha competition in the wide receiver room (Wandale Robinson and Calvin Ridley are not commanding targets).
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:41
Tate has downfield ability, large catch radius, and elite body control that allow him to win vertically, on timing routes, and in the red zone—traits that enable quick target manufacturing for rookie wide receivers and give him the ability to get involved immediately.
Insight pageChase Brown
PositiveProjection0:12
Jay Mack likes Chase Brown and thinks he has a good path forward in the NFL.
Insight pageColston Loveland
PositiveRole0:26
Loveland faces significant target competition in the Bears offense with Ben Johnson wanting to run the ball, and there are questions about whether he'll ever get enough of the target pie with Roma Dunes, Luther Burden, and Caleb Williams in the mix.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:31
There's uncertainty about whether Loveland will ever truly become an elite tight end asset given the target competition from Roma Dunes and Luther Burden, and whether Caleb Williams can sustain all the weapons in the offense.
Insight pageElijah Sarratt
PositiveBreakout25:00
Elijah Surratt is a breakout candidate with elite college production (44 touchdowns, 179 first downs) and strong analytics (12.5% first down per route run, 23% target per route run, 2.6 yards per route run) that fit perfectly in a Sean Payton offense.
Insight pagePositiveRole25:43
Elijah Surratt is expected to play a big slot role in the Ravens offense under Sean Payton, who uses less 12 personnel than Ben Johnson, making it conducive to a slot receiver role where Surratt can thrive.
Insight pagePositiveProjection27:00
Elijah Surratt has an 83.3% success rate versus zone coverage (second best in class) and great hands; if he plays 80% of snaps in the slot role, he should produce at a high level.
Insight pagePositiveValue30:07
Elijah Surratt can be acquired in the late second or third round of rookie drafts, providing excellent value for a prospect with elite college production and strong analytics.
Insight pageGeorge Pickens
NegativeBust20:12
George Pickens has talent but is volatile and gets in his own way mentally, making him a risky fantasy asset despite his ceiling outcome.
Insight pageNegativeRole20:56
George Pickens is described as 'crazy as a cat in a room full of rocket care,' indicating behavioral and mental volatility that impacts his reliability as a fantasy asset.
Insight pageHunter Henry
PositiveRole0:12
Hunter Henry was included in the trade as a compromise; the other party wanted Isaiah Likely but settled for Henry instead.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
PositiveRole0:12
Isaiah Likely was valued enough that Jay Mack pushed back against including him in the trade, keeping him on his roster.
Insight pageJayden Higgins
PositiveRole0:12
Jaden Higgins could push for the number one role in the Texans offense, potentially limiting Nico Collins' upside.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveRole0:17
The Giants drafted Jeremiah Love, which Shev believes would have ruined fantasy value for Cam Scadabo if Love had fallen to pick 5, but the Titans drafted him instead.
Insight pageJustin Jefferson
NegativeProjection0:11
Jay Mack is concerned about Jefferson's value trajectory; if he finishes as a WR7-8 again this season, his value next year at age 28 will likely drop further from his current back-end first/middle second round startup price.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
PositiveRole0:17
Kenneth Walker signed with the Giants in free agency, creating initial concern about Cam Scadabo's role, though Shev notes this fear mongering didn't materialize.
Insight pageKyler Murray
NegativeProjection0:12
Jay Mack considers Kyler Murray a huge sell right now and recommends trading him away from any rosters if possible.
Insight pageLamar Jackson
PositiveProjection33:40
Lamar Jackson's hamstring injury may impact his rushing ability going forward, but he demonstrated elite pocket passing ability with the highest passer rating season of all time two years ago (40 TDs, 4 INTs).
Insight pageMark Andrews
NegativeProjection31:41
Mark Andrews is done as a productive fantasy asset; he hasn't been the same since suffering a car accident and ankle injury, opening up opportunity for other Ravens pass catchers.
Insight pageNico Collins
NegativeProjection0:12
Jay Mack believes Nico Collins could drop off, potentially due to Jaden Higgins pushing for the number one role in the Texans offense, and notes Collins is no spring chicken.
Insight pageOmar Cooper Jr.
PositiveDepth Chart32:17
Omar Cooper Jr. dominated the slot role for Indiana in 2025, contrasting with Elijah Surratt's extensive outside usage, showing Surratt's multifunctional ability.
Insight pageOmarion Hampton
PositiveBreakout0:11
Jay Mack is worried about Hampton's value if he breaks out this season, noting he expects Hampton to have a breakout year and that losing him in the trade could be a significant value loss.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveBreakout0:33
Parker Washington is positioned to lead the Jaguars in targets in 2026 after demonstrating elite slot usage (58.8% alignment in slot), contested catch ability (7 of 12 contested catches), and after-the-catch creation from weeks 12-18 when Jacksonville was fighting for their divisional lives.
Insight pagePositiveUsage0:33
Washington led the league in contested catches (7 of 12 contested targets) and was fifth in the NFL in contested catch rate, second in most missed tackles forced per attempt among wide receivers during weeks 12-18, demonstrating elite efficiency with only 33 first free targets (24th in league) while averaging 16 fantasy points per game.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:34
Washington has historical precedent with Liam Cohen's offense (similar to Chris Godwin's 19.7 PPR points per game in Tampa's slot in 2024) and demonstrated chemistry with Trevor Lawrence down the stretch, positioning him as a potential league winner if the Jaguars continue their winning formula.
Insight pageQuinshon Judkins
PositiveBreakout21:47
Quinshawn Judkins is a breakout candidate despite being undervalued in rankings; he had strong rookie production with 7 rushing touchdowns and 36 targets, and should benefit from improved Browns offensive line and quarterback play.
Insight pagePositiveValue22:07
Quinshawn Judkins is greatly underrated in current rankings, likely going around RB 12-13 when he should be valued as an RB 7-8, making him a strong value pick.
Insight pagePositiveProjection22:27
Quinshawn Judkins had a strong rookie season despite missing the first few games and is not a major injury concern; the Browns' investment in their offensive line should help him have a good 2026 season.
Insight pageTony Pollard
PositiveInjury0:20
Jose references Pollard's ankle injury recovery in his first year back, noting he wasn't as explosive and took time to get right, drawing a comparison to potential concerns with Scadabo's ankle.
Insight pageTrayvon Henderson
PositiveValue17:00
Travion Henderson is in a more positive offensive environment than Quinshawn Judkins, allowing for better projection of offensive utility despite Judkins being preferred by some analysts.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
PositiveValue0:29
Tucker Craft is in the same tier as Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland for dynasty tight end rankings, but is being undervalued relative to Loveland despite having a clearer path to targets.
Insight pageTyler Warren
PositiveBreakout0:26
Tyler Warren is a breakout candidate with a realistic path to 150 targets (up from 112 in 2025) with 111 targets vacated from Michael Pittman's departure and minimal competition being added to the Colts receiving room.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:27
Warren experienced significant touchdown regression with only 4 receiving TDs on 21 red zone targets (19% conversion) versus the 33% average for tight ends, positioning double-digit touchdowns as realistic with a realistic projection of 100 receptions, 1,100 yards, and 10 TDs (16 PPR points per game).
Insight pagePositiveUsage0:29
Warren had 112 targets in 2025 and was second in the league in receiving yards through week 9 before Daniel Jones's Achilles injury, demonstrating he was on pace for a historic tight end season.
Insight pageTyrone Tracy
PositiveRole0:19
Tyrone Tracy is expected to take a backseat to Cam Scadabo in the Giants backfield, supporting Scadabo's breakout potential.
Insight pageWan'Dale Robinson
NegativeRole0:40
Wandale Robinson is not an alpha in the Titans wide receiver room and should not be commanding targets with Carnell Tate as the clear number one option.
Insight pageZay Flowers
PositiveDepth Chart30:43
Zay Flowers has been the only Ravens receiver outside of Hollywood Brown to succeed in the offense, having turned in a top 15 season with 140 targets.
Insight pageFull transcript
Episode Transcript
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1:58What it do, Future First crew. This is Jay Mack with Future First podcast, helping you win today with the Future First mindset.
2:05That is our newest drop. I was hoping to drop that a little bit later here, but we're just going to roll with it.
2:12That's for our favorite new rookie, Daman Claiborne. Jose, what's going on, man?
2:17How much, Jay Mack? Yeah, great to be here in the early morning.
2:21We got a wonderful guest here with us. Otherwise, everything else has been good, man.
2:25How you been? I've been good. Yeah, speaking of our guest, I was in our local cement aisle over here and I
2:32found Shev just looking at videos of Kenneth Walker, man.
2:35How you doing, Shev? Yeah, I appreciate y'all having me on.
2:39Look, I normally, I like to try to hide in the cement aisle so people can't see me or just levitate above it.
2:46So it's great to be on the ground here with Future First.
2:50I'm looking forward to talking about breakouts. Yeah, man.
2:53We got a lot of them to talk about today.
2:56So we're just going to jump right into it.
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3:49You can follow her on bfoxworth07. And yeah, as Shev said, we're doing breakouts today.
3:54So let's jump into it. But as first, always a quick hit.
3:58You guys ready? Let's go. Absolutely. All right. For today's quick hit, it's, I'm a little bit embarrassed to bring this one
4:05up because it's, I don't think this is going to go well for me here, but we're going to be talking about
4:12a trade that I pulled off in one of my leagues.
4:15It's with the OTC people and they call it the underground league.
4:19And it's a, you know, a 12 by 11 super flex tight end premium league with a tiered PPR, all sorts of good stuff.
4:27And man, I'm just, I'm just going to rip the bandaid off.
4:30Let's just get into the presentation mode here and pull up the OTC tool with the trade on the board.
4:37As you can see, it is a flippin massive trade here.
4:40We I'm calling it a Megalodon. So I'm just going to try and shout it out for the podcast peeps here real quick.
4:47I got five 27 firsts, including my own a 28 first, three 27 seconds, the 27 third and two 27 fourths.
4:54And then a bunch of, you know, bench backup player assets like Raritan, Mims, Bryant, Pat Bryant, and Eli A.
5:00O. Manor. So I sent to get those assets, Justin Jefferson, Omarion Hampton, Nico Collins, Chase Brown, Pollard, Dobbins, Corum, Pacheco, Shakir, and Hunter Henry.
5:08It's you guys got to jump onto the YouTube to see the trade because they're, you know, otherwise you're, you're Charlie day
5:15from always sunny in Philadelphia, just trying to pull the red strings and all the directions to kind of figure this one out.
5:22I don't know. I guess before I get into my process, I'm going to, I'll pass it over to you, like, what do you think of this trade?
5:31High level, man. So I'm assuming this is, this is a complete tear down.
5:35So we're just, I, I, you know, get like the team that got all of these assets is now in potential, like
5:42in, in, in contention to win the championship this year, if this team stays healthy and you are in a position to
5:49get Jeremiah Smith or Arch Manning sending away and removing all those points from your lineup.
5:54And also if somehow or another, we hit, you know, whatever universe in the multiverse where Eli Raritan, Pat Bryant, Marvin Mims,
6:01and Alec Ayo, man, or the catching can up come out and they're all like top 12 at their position.
6:08And you got utility with the first to try to buy back into making this a contender, but I don't think you're
6:14gonna have to worry about that at all. Uh, so with the five first and the 28 first, like, so six first,
6:21three seconds and a 27 third and two fourths.
6:24I really like, I really like that you can completely control the board in 2027.
6:29Everybody's all stupid. I mean, male pattern, rookie horniness, um, got the best of a lot of people.
6:35I took advantage of it, uh, to acquire some high end assets on my end, like as a player.
6:41And so even more so with 2027, people are going to want to get into the first round.
6:46I think it's going to be akin to 2024 with quarterbacks pushing the value of the skill positions down.
6:52So I like what you did here to go into a slight rebuild and look at, and honestly, if you hit on
6:59your rookie picks, that's the, that's the other thing you hit on your rookie picks.
7:04And you're right back in, you're right back in a position to contend again in 2028 or as early as 2027.
7:10If all those guys are what we think that they're supposed to be.
7:15So that's just kind of where I land on it.
7:18It makes sense for what you're trying to accomplish.
7:21I never like this many pieces to a trade because I try to parse through them and make it one for one,
7:27but I can understand the thought process here. Just ripping the bandaid off and saying, Hey, I'm going into a rebuild and
7:34we're not going to, I'm not going to play around with it.
7:38No half measures like full rebuild. Yeah. I mean, that's essentially what it was.
7:43And I'm going to give Jose some space here to kind of give his thoughts on it before I dive deeper into it.
7:50So Jose, what, what do you think about this, man?
7:53We haven't talked about this, so I'm kind of scared to hear what you have to say.
7:58Yeah. I mean, I think it's just one of those things kind of with Sheva saying you're, you're doing it all at once, right.
8:06Ripping the bandaid off instead of going through and selling each one of these pieces individually, which I think can also get
8:13a bit tricky because once people know you're in full sellout mode, sometimes you don't get necessarily the value that you're wanting.
8:20So this guy just happened to have all these firsts.
8:23It just made it, it made a lot of sense because if this guy had this many firsts and most of the league didn't have their first, right?
8:32So I think it makes a pretty decent sense.
8:34Did you get like full value for every single player?
8:38Probably not, but you know, it accomplishes a goal.
8:40It gets you the one-on-one. Like if you turn, you know, the, if we put pick values to those picks and one
8:47of them is the one-on-one, I think the trade looks a decently more, you know, favorable.
8:52I mean, the players you got back are nothings.
8:55The force are not that much Hunter Henry, Pacheco, Shakir that you sent away are not very much.
9:01The only big pieces are like Jefferson, Hampton, Nico, and Chase Brown.
9:05And I guess Kyler Murray, depending on how you feel about him.
9:08So I think it's an okay return, you know, right.
9:12It's not, it's not anything egregious in any sort of way.
9:15It just makes it so you don't have to do a lot of extra work, which also, you know, that accounts for
9:22something, your time, personal time as well. So I don't hate it, man.
9:26I, it's definitely not like, you know, the most high end value.
9:30I think the place where you lose the most value is if Jefferson and Hampton, you know, if Hampton has a breakout
9:37season, then you've probably lost a significant amount of value.
9:40If Jefferson returns to a top five wide receiver with Kyler Murray, you probably just gave away one of the best stacks
9:47in the NFL or for fantasy going forward, like at least next year, that would be the place where you, you lose a lot of value.
9:55If things stay, you know, Jefferson doesn't return to that high peak and Hampton kind of is just like a solid road
10:02running back one instead of like a top five.
10:05Then I think you're, you know, you're not horribly off, but that's the worst case scenario.
10:10Obviously like best case scenario is like guys like Nico Collins, you know, doesn't really bring anything forward.
10:15Chase Brown falls off. Tony Pollard loses his job.
10:18Like there's, there's other ways where this trade also looking at it next year could also be more favorable to you as well.
10:26Yeah. Good catch. Also, I didn't shout that out for the, for the podcast listeners, but I, Kyler Murray was included in this trade as well.
10:34You look right over him, man. You look right past him.
10:37How could you? It's so easy. It's so easy to, but yeah, I, I did, I did have him in there and
10:44yeah, I mean, I think you guys nailed my process here was I had a contending team, you know, for a 12
10:51by 11 outside of what you see here on the screen.
10:54And those names we listed, the other starters on my team are, you know, Lamar Jackson, Josh Downs, Quinton Johnston, Isaiah likely.
11:01And then beyond that, it's not much. So when you add those four names to these 11, I had a decent starting
11:08lineup, but I didn't looking at the rest of the league.
11:12I didn't feel like I had a chance to really push for that championship.
11:16I may have made the playoffs and, you know, maybe I get lucky, but I also just felt like some of these assets here are pretty volatile.
11:25Yeah. Justin Jefferson could bounce back in a big way this season, but if he has even another, you know, wide receiver
11:32seven or eight finish on the season, I think that value next year is, is going to drop from what it is now.
11:39You know, right now he's kind of like a back end of the first sometimes slips into the middle second for startups.
11:46And I think if he has another wide receiver season, like next year or this year going into his age 28 season,
11:53I just think that value is going to drop further.
11:56Hampton is the piece I'm really worried about here.
11:59I'm, I do think he's going to break out this season, a little spoiler alert forward into our breakouts.
12:05He is on there for me. Nico, I feel like could be one of those guys that, that kind of drops off.
12:12Maybe Jaden Higgins pushes for the number one role here in this upcoming season.
12:16And he's also no spring chicken either. And yeah, I don't know.
12:20I like chase Brown. I think he's got a good path forward, but Kyler Murray, I think he's a huge sell right now.
12:27If you can get them off any of your rosters, I'd be looking to do that.
12:32And the rest of these guys Dobbins are sorry, not Dobbins.
12:35Blake Corham was probably the one that I really didn't want to let go out of all of them.
12:41I think he has a role that's growing in the Rams.
12:45And I kind of liked that, but it was, he pushed to put him in there.
12:50He also was trying to put likely in there, but I pushed back and he ended up settling for Hunter Henry.
12:57And yeah, this is what we landed on, you know, Fox called this a CVS receipt of a trade.
13:03And that just made me laugh so hard. So if, if you guys, you know, see a coupon at the bottom for
13:09me to get a first round discount on my next pick of, you know, buying four or more players, I'm looking for
13:16that still, but let me know if you guys find it, drop it down in the comments, what you think of this trade.
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15:33That's how your information lands in the hands of scammers, spammers, even stalkers.
15:37It's why you get endless robocalls and why ads seem to follow you everywhere.
15:41That's where Aura comes in. Aura actively removes your data from broker sites and keeps it off.
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16:29All right, welcome back. We're jumping into our breakouts here.
16:32Let's get right into it because we got a lot to go over.
16:37So, Shev, I'm just going to pass it right over to you, man.
16:41Kick us off with your first breakout here. Well, I, you want me to go, you know, does it matter?
16:47Do I have to go in the order of my list here?
16:51No, we're probably only going to get to three of them.
16:54So, just pick your favorite of the three and start with any one of them.
16:59Oh, easy. It's going to be, it's going to be Cam Scadabo.
17:03Yeah, absolutely love Cam Scadabo. So, weeks two through seven, basically when he was a full-time player, he's at, you know, he's fifth in target share.
17:11He's at 24% targets per route run, eighth in receptions.
17:14He averaged four targets and three receptions a game, basically weeks two to seven.
17:18He was third in missed tackle sports per attempt and seventh in yards after contact per attempt, which makes sense if you watch the way that he plays.
17:27So, I mean, I have several nicknames for him.
17:30The foremost being CTE scat pack because it looks like he's actively trying to give himself CTE.
17:35So, I, like, I want as much Cam Scadabo as possible.
17:39You got bullish signal finally once we got through all the fear mongering of the offseason and we were talking about, you're
17:46talking about him, you know, first it was Kenneth Walker coming there in free agency.
17:50Then it was the, you know, the Giants drafting Jeremiah Love, which I believe that 100% would have done and ruined all
17:57of our good times from a fantasy perspective. If he would have fallen to, fallen to pick five for some reason, uh, if my Titans didn't draft him.
18:06So, we have all those things. Then they took a tackle in the top 10 as well.
18:12So, they took Francis Maui Noah, who's one of the most road-grating offensive linemen in the entire draft.
18:17Now, is he, does he end up playing guard?
18:20Maybe, but also he's a people mover. It's real, real aggressive.
18:23And then you hear the coach speak and, you know, you hear Cam Scadabo talking about taking, you know, just basically them
18:30being a violent football team and trying to establish a run.
18:34That's something that we've seen from John Harbaugh in his 17 years in Baltimore.
18:38So, was really, really excited to get a chance to talk about Cam Scadabo because I think he does have that three-down usage and utility.
18:46We saw that at Arizona State. We saw that in the limited amount of time in 2020, you know, 2024 before his ankle got turned the wrong way.
18:55So, I think he's going to be healthy. He said he's already, he could outrun a baby hippo if he asked you early enough.
19:03Yeah, dude. I mean, just go Google Cam Scadabo quotes if you're having a really bad day and you want to laugh at some stuff.
19:10Just go listen to him on his streams because it is absolutely hilarious.
19:14But also, I'm pretty sure that somebody's like feeding it to him because I don't know if he can read.
19:21So, just take that with a grain of salt that you might not.
19:25But when it comes to football, the football is awesome.
19:28He was at 17.1 half PPR points per game.
19:31And I think he has 20 point per game upside if we're going to get the pass catching plus just really Tyrone Tracy taking a backseat to him.
19:40So, I've talked enough. I'm curious to know what you guys' thoughts are as far as that goes.
19:45Yeah, I mean, he's somebody that we've actually talked about in our podcast a bit.
19:50We think that the market hasn't really reacted to.
19:53The fear mongering going away that you were talking about, like there was lots of chances for his spot to get blown up, but it didn't at all.
20:02And it seems like the fantasy community hasn't really come back to earth to what Cam Scadabo could be.
20:08My only concern is that ankle. We saw it kind of with Pollard after his first year back from the ankle.
20:14He just wasn't nearly as explosive and it took him a bit to get right.
20:19But I agree. I think Cam Scadabo, if he can be healthy after that ankle and keep his head intact long enough
20:26for the whole season, can definitely be a decent breakout and a guy that a lot of people aren't really banking on
20:33and putting a lot of stock into right now.
20:36Yeah. What do you think, J-Mac, about Scadabo? Man, I love it.
20:39I'm all in on Scadabo. I've been trading for him, drafting him in startups.
20:44I think I sent like the 107 to get him in one of my leagues.
20:49And that was such a huge win for me.
20:51That one fell into my lap. I didn't even have to send it.
20:55It just popped in my inbox. I've been grabbing him in the sixth rounds of startups, reaching what feels like a round
21:02ahead, but still somehow feels like a discount on him.
21:06He's just a huge buy for me. And I love the breakout call here.
21:10If Shev didn't shout him out, I would have.
21:13So I love it. Yeah. I mean, if I can jump in with my breakout, because it's actually directly tied to Cam Scadabo, it's quarterback Jackson Dart.
21:21I think he's got the highest ceiling to really break into the top five here with his rushing ability, right?
21:28His efficiency passing doesn't really need to go up very highly, as long as he can get to roughly those 35 rushing yards per game.
21:35And he has strong touchdown equity, you know, to survive average passing weeks.
21:40I think if he can improve modestly on his passing and even in slightly in year two, he's pretty much wheels up.
21:46I mean, I think it's somewhat like the Cam Scadabo thought if he can, you know, he has to run a bit smarter and keep himself safe, right?
21:55You put everything else that's going on outside, off the field, whatever aside, I think he's, you know, set to make that
22:02jump into those kind of elite rushing quarterbacks. And I think that the New York Giants offense in a general, in a
22:09general sense is looking to be, you know, much better next year.
22:13I mean, they were, they already made a strong jump when Dart Scadabo came in with neighbors.
22:18I think they're just all wheels up to be one of the top offenses, even if they're not winning a ton of games.
22:25But I think they're going to be one of the candidates that, you know, was near the bottom picking at the top
22:32of the draft, but near the bottom of standings to quickly turn it around.
22:37I mean, they, they have a winning coach with a winning mentality.
22:41They have all the pieces as Shev mentioned earlier, they also went offensive line early on in the draft, which also speaks
22:47volumes to keeping Dart upright, which he did take quite a bit of sacks in his rookie year, which I think is,
22:54you know, somewhat expected with his style of play.
22:57But I think with a healthy neighbors, a healthy Scadabo, a better improved offensive line and, you know, a game, a winning
23:04style head coach and John Harbaugh, I think Jackson Dart is pretty poised to make that jump into one of the elite
23:11assets at quarterback, especially in super flex leagues. How are you viewing Jackson Dart, Shev?
23:16I think that the cool, the coolest part about this is you have, you have Harbaugh, who's had this one, him and
23:23him and Greg Roman kind of engineered that first Lamar MVP season.
23:27And so you have that with Greg Roman being a special, you know, a special assistant to the offense.
23:32Obviously, Matt Nagy is a, you know, the offensive coordinator.
23:36And I think he's, you know, he's on my suspected list of coaching terrorists, the coaching organization Alcocha.
23:41So I, I, I'm a little nervous, but it gives me a little bit of, we're, we're still going to be able to get the rushing upside.
23:50Like we could get, it might not, it says here in the notes, he might not throw for 4,500 yards, but could
23:57you get six, 700 yards rushing and eight to 10 touchdowns from Jackson Dart?
24:01I believe he had nine touchdowns last year. Right.
24:04So I think that if we're going to get six to 700 yards rushing, I mean, it's clear that that's going to
24:11be a part of his game and he's, you know, as reluctant as he is to change it, I think he's going
24:18to have to change it somewhat, but I think that that's a great call because he's really safe because of the floor, the rushing floor.
24:26And he's one of the, one of his things is that he's one of the most accurate deep ball passers.
24:32That was kind of his calling card in college.
24:35So he had the most air yards. I can't remember the stat off the top of my head, but one of the
24:42cool things about him was like throwing the ball deep out of college.
24:46Like he threw for the most yards and had the highest completion percentage on passes that traveled 20 plus yards in the air.
24:53And you saw it a couple times kind of come to fruition with no Malik neighbors.
24:58This was with Darius Slayton. And like, I just, I mean, adding Malik neighbors to this thing, which is a whole different
25:05thing that we've got to get into would be, you know, that's, that's kind of the icing on the cake to me.
25:12So yeah, I love this call with Jackson Dart.
25:15Yeah, I agree. I mean, I was like pleasantly surprised with how good of a passer Jackson Dart was last season.
25:21Like, I just remember watching and being like, that's not an easy throw to make.
25:26And he made it look easy and throwing to guys like Wandale on top of that.
25:31No shade on Wandale, but I mean, like you said, he's no Malik neighbors here, Shev.
25:36So I love the call. And even if this is like a run first offense and, you know, maybe the passing yards
25:43aren't there, he still has that upside of the rushing floor, you know, in that Lamar Jackson role that we've seen in a Harbaugh offense.
25:51So I think it is a relatively safe, he just needs to stay upright.
25:55I think is, is the only thing that we're really worried about with him.
26:00So yeah, great call on Dart there. I'm going to move in to my first prospect here.
26:05And I'm, I don't know, this might be a little bit of a chicken one because he kind of broke out last
26:12year, but Tyler Warren, I, I just, there's so much hype for Colson Loveland right now.
26:17And I get it. Like Colson Loveland is in a, he's a great dynasty asset to buy into right now because the
26:24offense is trending up and you saw him be really good last year, living up to what the prospect could be.
26:31But man, there, there's a lot of competition for targets in that room.
26:35And Ben Johnson, you know, wants to run the ball too.
26:38So it's like, to me, those things just aren't really adding up for why Colson Loveland should be taken ahead of Tyler Warren.
26:45I think Tyler Warren was started real hot last, last year, but then just kind of fell off, you know, after Daniel
26:52Jones went down with the Achilles injury, it was not great.
26:56And I think he, he kind of has that Emeka Egbuka syndrome right now where people are still high on him, but
27:03they're not taking him as high as they should.
27:06And I see a path to 150 targets for Tyler Warren.
27:09He had 112 targets in 2025, and there's 111 being vacated because they got rid of Michael Pittman.
27:15And there's very little competition to be added there.
27:17I mean, you have Alec Pierce, which, you know, good on Alec Pierce to break out last year.
27:23And there's, there's Josh Downs. There's a lot of hype building for him, whether it's warranted or not.
27:29He was the one I really wanted to call out in this breakout was Josh Downs, but I just kept going back to Tyler Warren.
27:37And I really do think that 150 targets is real for him and logical.
27:41And then on top of that, I think touchdown regression is coming for him.
27:45He had four touchdowns receiving touchdowns last year. He had 21 red zone targets and four touchdowns.
27:51That's less than a 20% touchdown conversion rate in the red zone.
27:55Whereas 33% is the average for all of the tight ends getting those.
27:59So assuming his role stays the same and TD regression hits, I think double digit touchdowns is a reality for Tyler Warren.
28:06And that's not even including rushing touchdowns or passing touchdowns.
28:09He threw the ball for a touchdown. He didn't complete it, but they created that opportunity for him, which is just bonkers
28:16that he has a role like that. I think a realistic projection for him is a hundred receptions, 1100 yards and 10
28:23touchdowns, which would equate to 16 points per game and a half PPR half point tight and premium.
28:28And like, that's just under what we saw from Trey McBride last year and an offense that threw the ball over 600 times.
28:35So to me, Tyler Warren just seemed like the easiest selection here in a fourth round of a startup.
28:41I love it. Shev, you, you are itching to speak on this.
28:45So go ahead, man. What'd you think? I absolutely love everything that you just said.
28:50And I don't like just like agreeing with people feeling like I agree just to agree, but I absolutely agree with everything that you just said.
28:58So it's almost, okay. One thing that I think we have to understand as content creators is that our, our listeners and
29:05our fan base, like they're not going to have as long of a memory or be willing to go back and look
29:12at like, look at the season in parts, which is kind of how I've chosen my breakout is like guys who performed
29:19on the back half of the season going into this season.
29:22So for you to go back and look at what was happening before the injury to Daniel Jones and then kind of
29:29break it down into like, Hey, this is what actually happened.
29:33We're actually due for some sort of regression and for Tyler Warren's path to be like dynasty wise, I have him Loveland and Tucker craft.
29:41You guys know, I love Tucker craft a whole bunch in the same tier, but people are looking at it like, Oh, well, it's clearly Colston Loveland.
29:49And then it's, you know, he's in his tier by himself beside it.
29:53Like with Rob Barrett, but I think Tyler Warren, you're looking at weeks one through eight going like before the Daniel Jones
30:00injury, I think through week nine, he was second in the league in receiving yards.
30:05So we were, we were on the precipice of having a third straight historic tight end season.
30:10And then we got robbed because Daniel Jones's Achilles exploded.
30:13So I love everything that you said about Tyler Warren here.
30:17I, I think that really, because Alec Pierce is such a downfield volatile target asset.
30:22Now he is one of the best deep threats in the league, but that's never going to equate to 130 or 140 targets.
30:29If there is someone who commands that we've already seen Tyler Warren do it in college.
30:34Now in the men's league, it's a little different, but we saw him have success in the men's league immediately when the offense was clicking and flowing.
30:42So I think that this is a great call.
30:45I think that while for some reason it's like the Hatfields and the McCoys or like, there's just a civil war amongst
30:52fantasy owners between like Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren.
30:55And I feel like the answer is just both.
30:58Like, I don't think that I just don't, I don't, I don't have any sort of reason to think that Tyler Warren
31:05is not going to be awesome for fantasy. Yeah.
31:07Yeah. I mean, I think so. I think it kind of just depends on who you ended up drafting in that and
31:14that's who you're hoping, but I wouldn't be super surprised if after next year, actually, if Kraft is back from his ACL
31:21and you know, Warren stays healthy as well, that they both overperformed Loveland and the conversation next year is, is Loveland ever
31:28really going to truly get to be an elite asset or a tight end?
31:33We know he has the skill, but is he ever really going to be able to get enough of the pie?
31:39If Roma Dunes is as good as we think of Luther Burden is as good as we think, you know, is, is
31:46he ever going to get enough of the pie?
31:49Is Caleb Williams ever going to be a strong enough asset to sustain everybody?
31:53Or is it just going to kind of rotate?
31:56I think that's, we could see that being the case playing out next year and, you know, Warren and Kraft, given what
32:03they have, their wide receiver rooms and who they're playing with, you know, could be just much simpler to predict their future and their target share.
32:11And the biggest question I do have for the Colts is we saw the wheels fall off as soon as Daniel Jones was gone.
32:19We don't know if Daniel Jones, you know, his recovery, where he's going to be at.
32:24Is it going to be Riley Leonard? Who's exactly going to be playing quarterback?
32:28I think that's the scariest part, but in, you know, looking at it from into the future and you know, dynasty and whatnot, like you're pretty concerned.
32:37You're not as concerned because you feel like Tyler Warren is going to figure out a way to get his hand on
32:44the ball and they're going to figure out how to get him the ball just because of how talented he is.
32:50Yeah. All right, chef. Why don't you lead off with your next breakout here, man?
32:55Oh, okay. So I don't know how you guys feel about this, but I have been in deep thought and meditation in the cement aisle about this one.
33:04And the conclusion that I came to was the fact that Parker Washington is going to lead the Jags and targets this year.
33:11I, people have been saying it a lot, man, and I'm starting to come around on it.
33:16So lay your argument, why you think that's happening here?
33:20So obviously we know that it was a pretty, pretty tumultuous ride for the first half of the season for the Jaguars.
33:27People questioning Trevor Lawrence, people, the only real reliable asset because Brian Thomas Jr.
33:31completely busted was Travis Etienne or HN, Travis Etienne Jr., who's now with the Saints.
33:36But basically from weeks 12 to 18, they were in a gotta have it situation.
33:40They were fighting, they were fighting to, for their divisional lives and they, this, they had to play winning football.
33:47And while they were playing winning football, it led the highest pass around 58.8% alignment in the slot during that time.
33:53Fifth in contested catches, which was good for fifth in the entire, like in the entire NFL was seven in the second
34:00most missed tackles force per attempt among wide receivers.
34:03So not only was he, was he winning in contested catch situations, 12 contested catch targets, seven receptions, fifth in the league.
34:10He was creating after the catch, he was making people miss.
34:13And that goes to his punt return ability. So Parker Washington, even if he doesn't come out of the gate as the
34:20leading target earner, we have, we have the historical, the historical relevance of looking at what happened with the slot in 2024 in Tampa with Chris Godwin.
34:29And he was basically 19.7 fantasy points per game and second in total fantasy points before his ankle exploded in 2024.
34:35So you have a history, you have a pattern of usage, you have Liam Cohen's offense, which we have seen, you know,
34:42just be just a fantasy cornucopia of goodness. And so all of those things lead me to believe that they're not going
34:49to go away from what won them ballgames in 2020, you know, in 2025.
34:54And in 2026, I fully believe that he's going to end up being the primary target earner.
34:59Like I said, this is all with 33 first free targets, which was like 24th in the league.
35:05So efficiency was the name of the game. And he still was like 16 fantasy points per game during this stretch.
35:11So I'll see the floor and I'm open to feedback.
35:14Yeah, someone is going to be earning these targets in this offense.
35:18And right now it feels like, like a toss up, like Jacoby Myers is just getting no consideration for it.
35:25And I like the Parker Washington call. He's young.
35:27He's like, what, 20, 24 years old, I think.
35:30Yeah. So especially for dynasty. Right. And my only issue with him is like the cost is, is reflecting him where he's going.
35:37Like he's, he's almost as expensive as like Brian Thomas jr.
35:41And in some ways, but I think I do like the call.
35:45He is a target earner. He was, he was the dog on the field there last year when Brian Thomas jr.
35:51Wouldn't go over and they don't make the catches that they wanted to Parker Washington was the guy to get those ones done.
35:59And honestly, like even as a prospect, he was a little underrated coming into the league.
36:04So I love the call. I don't have much of Parker Washington, unfortunately.
36:08So I'm kind of just sitting on the sideline watching and, um, I am taking the opportunity to buy in on Brian
36:15Thomas jr, but not because I think he's going to be good with the Jags.
36:19I think that the, he moves on in, you know, the next season is just the role that they want Brian Thomas
36:26to play is not what he would excel at.
36:29So I'm hoping he gets moved here, traded or, you know, out of that contract in a couple of years and we see him break out.
36:37But Jose, what do you think about Parker Washington, man?
36:40Yeah. I mean, it's actually kind of funny. Uh, me and chef as I, without doing any homework together, anything have actually
36:47been on like just the opposite side of the cement aisle.
36:51It seems like, cause, uh, we have a lot of players that, um, are tied together in our breakout.
36:57Um, whether it was cam's got a boo and dart.
37:00Um, I know he's got a certain, um, Tennessee quarterback maybe on his list.
37:04He might be talking about, and I have a Tennessee wide receiver.
37:08Um, and I have, I had for a bit, I was debating who to talk about Brian Thomas jr.
37:14On my list. I went with a different wide receiver, but, um, Brian Thomas jr.
37:19Was who I was thinking. So I, and, and the stuff coming out of OTAs, the only reason it would make me
37:26a little bit scared for, uh, Washington is that they're saying that the two wide receiver sets, it's looking like Myers and, um, Brian Thomas jr.
37:34At this point, obviously this is early on in OTAs.
37:37Could they be building hype to trade Brian Thomas jr.
37:40I think, you know, the only reason I still stick with Brian Thomas jr.
37:45In terms of being the breakout for the Jags going forward, it's just, we saw what he could do.
37:51Um, now obviously we haven't seen him do it with Trevor Lawrence, which is the biggest question.
37:56Like, do they just not have good chemistry? Is he just not, he's just not the read that he looks for.
38:03Um, so I think that will be interesting. I think there's definitely like you were saying, and in general, there is somebody
38:09there's financing gold in the Jaguars, um, you know, in, in Jacksonville's mountains.
38:14I don't know if there's mountains out there, but you know, whatever it fits the narrative here that to be mine.
38:20Cause I think Trevor Lawrence can, and under Liam Cohen has kind of developed to be this kind of, um, elite pastor
38:27that we were all hoping he could be. I think that will continue.
38:31So there's somebody that's going to make, um, you know, everybody very happy for fantasy football is just, which one is it going to be?
38:39I think the clearest answer would be if like a Brian Thomas jr.
38:43does get moved. Cause then you're, you know, Jacoby Myers and Parker Washington specifically are completely wheels up.
38:49Um, so I don't hate the shout for Parker Washington.
38:52I think if all three of them stay my, um, my horse in that race would still be Brian Thomas jr.
38:59But, um, I could definitely see it being Parker Washington.
39:02I mean, he demonstrated it to have the chemistry with Trevor Lawrence down the stretch, like Jeff was saying, um, last year.
39:09So it's definitely a pretty, um, going to be interesting, right?
39:12It's a, you know, you don't always hear about ambiguous wide receiver room, but I think this is one where like there,
39:19if you can get it right for fantasy, you're probably buying cheap on all three.
39:24Like I don't think any of the players that are there, whether it's Washington, BTJ or, um, Jacoby Myers are extremely expensive.
39:31So, and you can end up with a very solid wide receiver two or flex, or, you know, if it's, um, even higher than that.
39:38Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm scared that it will be Parker Washington because of how much Brian Thomas I have, but Hey, if Brian Thomas jr.
39:46gets moved, we all win, you know? So Jose, go ahead and go off with your next one, man.
39:52Yeah. I mean, um, so speaking of wide receiver, I'll just, I'll just hit mine.
39:57So that I previously mentioned, um, it here, it's going to be Carnell Tate, um, for the, let's go for the Tennessee Titans here.
40:05I thought it was funny when I was looking through some stuff about Tate that they happened to mention that he's the
40:12highest wide receiver drafted by the Tennessee Titans ever.
40:14He went, I think one spot ahead of Corey Davis, if I'm not mistaken as chef.
40:19So I thought that was just funny. I don't know what that means, but, um, it does tie into one of my
40:26first points, which is like these wide receivers that are taking, taken in, you know, this early in the NFL draft are
40:33not to be brought along slowly on a, you know, um, little bit by little bit, you know, they're brought in to
40:40be dominate and dominate and, um, be the guy.
40:43Uh, I think that was a lot of the questions for Tate was, is he ever a true alpha?
40:49I think right now it's his best chance to prove it because the players he's going to be playing with in the
40:56wide receiver room are for sure not alphas, whether it's, um, Wandale or, you know, whatever shadow of Calvin Ridley's left to play football there.
41:04Um, nobody else should be commanding targets, right? Um, even a guy like Chick moved on.
41:09So it's, it's pretty much Carnell Tate should be, um, Cam Ward's number one read there.
41:14And I think that's, it all comes down to how Cam Ward develops under Brian Dable's system and what they got going on there.
41:21But if we're predicting or thinking Cam Ward is going to take that step forward, it's going to be hand in hand with Carnell Tate, right?
41:30I mean, Carnell Tate coming out of college was a, um, you know, he, he was, uh, hold on, lost my spot.
41:36Uh, he's, he, he's that he was, he had downfield ability, a large catch radius and elite body control.
41:42Um, those are all great things for, um, fantasy, right?
41:46It's a very usable fantasy profile. You can win vertically, went on timing routes and went in the red zone.
41:52And for rookie wide receivers, those things are important because, um, they give, uh, the ability to manufacture touches and get the Carnell Tate involved quickly.
42:00Right. He has that ability. Um, I think some of the stuff about his speed where it's a, it's a bit of
42:07more of a ramp up seat than a quick twitch speed.
42:10That's, I mean, we've seen wide receivers that aren't blazing off the line, uh, be super effective and be very good.
42:17Um, like, uh, I think of as a cowboy fan, does Brian all the time, who was not super quick off the
42:24line, but was just able to beat everybody, uh, going up for the ball and just route running well routes.
42:30So he's not, um, a drum art chase by any chance, but I think he wins in a lot of other different
42:37areas that, um, you know, if we are expecting, like I said, the, the Tennessee Titans to go forward and take a
42:44step forward and become a more productive and more, um, winning team with cam ward at the helm, then I think Carnell
42:51Tate is going to be a big piece of that.
42:54Yeah. Chef, give me your thoughts on Carnell Tate here, man.
42:58Oh, buddy. I absolutely. I mean, I've been calling Carnell Tate gospel George Pickens because he just reminded me of, he reminds
43:05me of God like George Pickens, who's my most owned dynasty wide receiver.
43:09But if, if he only grew up listening to gospel music, so super mannered, just very, very, very polished wide receiver who
43:16also was one of the best contested catch guys, you know, and it, it's a hand and glove fit with cam ward.
43:23If you just, my thing with cam ward was just, if you just give him just receivers, that'll catch the ball receivers
43:29that will not act like they're clapping their elbows together to try to catch football.
43:34And let's just see what happens. I think some really cool things could happen.
43:39And I don't know if you guys have seen with the OTAs, but they're already developing, they're already developing this, this crazy chemistry.
43:46We saw, you know, there's a, there's supposedly, you know, I don't know how deep into them trenches you guys are with,
43:53with the, with the Twitter, the Twitter X videos, but supposedly there was a 50 yard touchdown that they converted on during
44:00OTAs that they can't release that the Titans media can't release because they can't release all 22 footage team footage during OTAs.
44:07So you have that, you have him, you know, I think he scored three touchdowns on the day that day.
44:13So they're already developing and you hear it from inside the building.
44:17Like even some of our biggest beat reporters are already big fans of Cornell Tate.
44:21I, I just feel like it's just kind of a, Hey, welcome home guys.
44:26Cause this dude is awesome. And he just so happened to be playing against like playing with a future first round pick
44:33in, you know, well, a Mecca book ended up being a first round pick.
44:37And then a guy who's going to go top five, potentially number one overall, depending on who has the pick in 2027
44:44and Jeremiah Smith, who is the definition of a generational prospect.
44:47So I can't fault him. He carved out a receiving role as a true freshman and had more receptions in JSN, more,
44:54all these other guys, anybody not named, not named Jeremiah Smith, Cardinal Tate had more receiving yards as a fret or receptions
45:01as a freshman than all those guys. And then he was meaningful on a national championship team, 700 yards and six touchdowns.
45:08And he took that step forward again this year and performed alongside Jeremiah Smith.
45:13You know, it was still like, I know people are saying, well, he wasn't the number one and you shouldn't take someone
45:20who wasn't the number one, but I don't care.
45:22You can very clearly see this dude is awesome at football.
45:26He was standing out on a team with again, a Mecca, if you go back to the Northwestern game, his sophomore, his
45:33true sophomore year, he was standing out with all those guys on the field.
45:37Okay. So I love Cardinal Tate. I love the shout out.
45:41And I think that he's going to work perfectly with Cam Ward.
45:44And I'm glad that there are people who will fade him because they don't realize how special Jeremiah Smith, how special the
45:51wide receiver room in general at Ohio state is.
45:54And the fact that he ran like, he didn't run a good 40.
45:58So he can't be good. So yeah, I absolutely love it.
46:02Man. Chef said it all. I don't need to say anymore.
46:05If you still doubt it, just, just go watch, watch him play football and tell me that he's not going to be good, man.
46:13When I, when I saw that video come out with the one handed catch, I was just like, okay, I know he
46:20didn't drop anything, but I didn't know he catches everything like that.
46:23That didn't really show up on film. So like, yeah, give Cam Ward a receiver who can catch anything and good things are going to happen.
46:32I I've been saying that I think Cardinal Tate is a lock for 130 targets this year.
46:37And that's only going to mean very good things for his fantasy success this year.
46:42So I love it. All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll come back with my second breakout here.
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48:48We are going to get into my second breakout here, and I already alluded to it at the top of the show, but it is Omarion Hampton.
48:56He was one of my favorite 2025 prospects, which is saying a lot because there was a lot of running backs that came out in that class.
49:05But he didn't really get the option or the opportunity to perform last year.
49:09He had very limited action because of the injury and also Najee Harris in the beginning of the year kind of thwarted
49:16any kind of production we got to see from him.
49:19But in that limited production, he was very promising.
49:22He was number three in missed tackles force per attempt, and that's qualified by a minimum of 100 attempts.
49:28He was also number 11 in yards created per touch, which is one of the stickiest stats when it comes to running
49:35backs here of how much they are creating for their production beyond what's blocked for them or what is schemed up for them.
49:42And then on top of that, he's not just a grinder.
49:45He was number six in breakaway percentage. 6.4% of his runs went for 15 or more yards.
49:51So I just, not only did I love the prospect coming out of college, but then he showed that he can do it in this next level.
49:59And now, the real meat of the argument, layer in the situation.
50:03Is there a better situation in the league for any running back at this point?
50:08I mean, Mike McDaniel, as an offensive coordinator, I mean, as head coach four years in Miami, his running back rooms averaged 1,900 yards.
50:15On average, with a low of 1,600 yards in 2022.
50:18I mean, yes, there's A-Chan, who is, you know, kind of at the forefront of that, and he's a great explosive running back.
50:26But Mostert was there too in 2022, who, when he had that big breakout year, he was at the forefront of that,
50:33you know, 28-year-old Raheem Mostert getting it done for the Dolphins that year.
50:37And we're talking about a stud, you know, Omari and Hampton, the guy, who can get it done.
50:42And on top of that, the Chargers only invested into that, those guys up front.
50:47They have a top half offensive line, arguably one of the best, in my opinion.
50:52We didn't see it in 2025 because of all the injuries that they had to go through.
50:57So I'm expecting a much better performance from that offensive line in 2026.
51:01But yeah, I mean, they invested heavily into them.
51:04I mean, they got rid of Zion Johnson, which was a huge loss for them, but they replaced him with Cole Strange,
51:11who came over from Miami with Mike McDaniel. So I think he liked what he saw from him and he is okay putting him in the offense.
51:20And it's, it's his guy. I think that he'll work fine in that scheme.
51:24And then they also upgraded their center and they got Tyler Biotish from the commanders.
51:29So on top of that, you, you still have, you know, their, their left and right tackle who are, who are studs.
51:36And then they added Charlie Kohler, Alec Ingold and David Njoku.
51:39You know, those first two are just blocking guys.
51:42So I think we're going to see probably heavy 12, heavy 13 personnel out of the charges this year, which is only
51:49great things for the run game and Omari and Hampton.
51:52And then there's little competition for touches too. I mean, Keaton Mitchell, sure, but let's be real.
51:57Like he's not Omari and Hampton. He's going to be a guy that they plug in on third downs every now and
52:04then to kind of get those big chunk runs when, when they need them off of play action.
52:10So I don't see him as a real threat here.
52:13And then Justin Herbert as the play action caller and the leader of the offense.
52:18That's really the real threat for the defense. They're going to have to respect him.
52:22And that's going to open up lanes here for Omari and Hampton, especially when you consider the, the scheme coming in.
52:29So I love Omari and Hampton. I think he's due for a big breakout year, probably underrated in terms of dynasty rankings.
52:36Like I I'm probably taking Omari and Hampton over Ashton at this point.
52:40And I don't know if that's a hot take or not, but what do you guys think about that?
52:46Chef lead us off, man. I wouldn't go that far, but I do have a Mario Hampton aggressively, aggressively ranked because I
52:53do think that there's where there's smoke, there's fire.
52:56And we've seen, we've seen Josh McDaniels just, or Mike McDaniel, excuse me.
53:00I get, there's too many McDaniels and McDonald's and McDowell.
53:03Like I get confused with all that. So, but I do think that we've seen year over year over year concept, you
53:10know, proof of concept with Mike McDaniel and being one of the most efficient and, you know, being one of the most
53:17efficient play designers from a run scheme perspective. I mean, Devon H.
53:21Ham rookie year, average seven yards of carry. We haven't seen somebody do that on over a hundred carries, I think ever.
53:28And then that same year, Raheem Mostert, Raheem Mostert went for 20 rushing touchdowns.
53:32So they're always going, there's always going to be an efficient running back.
53:36And I think with a Mario Hampton, you get proof of concept, Mary's super hyper athletic talent with prototypical size.
53:42The biggest change that Mike McDaniel brings is the target share to the running back.
53:47So there's only 74 targets to the running back in 2025 with Greg Roman.
53:52That number is going to go well over a hundred.
53:55And I'm thinking the majority of it. I'm with you.
53:58I mean, he was at an 11% target share in his healthy games last year.
54:03That number going up over a hundred with that 11% target share for a Mario on Hampton could spell really, really, really good things.
54:10So I love this call out here because really I'm just trying to buy as many pieces of the chargers offense as possible.
54:17And there's, there's only, there's questions with everyone else at the price point, except for Justin Herbert and a Mario on Hampton.
54:24Like my, like I have a chargers breakout, you know, I have a chargers breakout that we may or may not have
54:31time to discuss, but there's questions there, but there's no questions about a Mario on Hampton.
54:36There's no questions about Justin Herbert. So like, let's get those high end assets and then we can profit.
54:42Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I mean, jumping in here.
54:45I think I have a little bit of a different take.
54:48I definitely think that maybe I'm on the other side of like where Hampton's hype is going.
54:54I think he likes, you know, kind of what you said, like him being over genti is I think when, you know,
55:01in that high of a player, I think that's when I think people need to pump their brakes.
55:06I think there's a little bit of a revisionist history on Hampton, especially before and after his injury.
55:12He didn't have like any third sort of like special rookie season by any metric.
55:17And I think one of the scariest parts, and obviously this could change if you have bringing in a coach that is
55:24specific, specifically runs zone running schemes, right. And they drafted for that.
55:27But his splits between running zone concepts and running, you know, man or gap or running concepts are much worse.
55:34I mean, he was his yards per carry drops almost two yards when it's when it was own concepts.
55:40He was he would be ranked 49 out of 50 running backs in the league last year.
55:45His success rate drops to 38.9%, which would be 49th in the league.
55:49So there's his stats look very, two completely different tales when he was running zone last year.
55:55Now, obviously, that could be completely different now with McDaniel coming in to run a specifically zone style offensive run and drafting
56:01for that maybe the just you know, the players that didn't didn't work.
56:06But if you know, for whatever reason, those zone runs are not Hampton strength, and he could be in trouble, right?
56:12Because I mean, McDaniel has run some of the highest zone run schemes in the NFL when he was in Miami as the head coach.
56:20So and I think it's just a like, I guess what you were saying about it being the best situation in NFL.
56:27I think that's part of what's also almost like double counting for Hampton here to bolster him up like we I think we still have to see it.
56:36We have to see it from the offense. We all love McDaniel in terms of what he did for a Chan.
56:42I don't know if you know, Hampton is the same type of profile of running back as a Chan to do some of those same things.
56:51And even when a Chan was there, he also used a second running back in most right when he got all those touchdowns.
56:58So what if all of a sudden, you know, somebody else emerges?
57:02I don't think is Vidal still there? He is, right?
57:05So I don't know. But you know, I don't think Monty Vidal just goes away after the year he had a pretty decent year spelling Hampton.
57:13You know, we've seen Keaton Mitchell have a role even when Derrick Henry was there, even if it was just a change
57:20of pace back and a receiving back. So you know, some of those receptions that Jeff was talking about could be going Mitchell's way.
57:27So I think it's not as clear and cut dry like as some of the other, you know, top end running backs
57:34like Gentry, for example, I don't think we were projecting anybody to be taking any touches away from Gentry Gibbs, Bijan now that Algier is gone.
57:42So I think that, you know, it wouldn't be too surprising if Kimani Vidal and Keaton Mitchell, at least at the beginning
57:49until, you know, maybe Hampton kind of established himself and dominated.
57:53Maybe that's training camp. Maybe that's OTAs had more of a role than people are expecting.
57:58And you know, the, the hype that there was does not necessarily reach the levels that everybody's hoping for.
58:04Well, you know what, man, your, your rain on my parade is not going to ruin my day.
58:10So I'm still going to be peeking through the curtains looking for Amari Hampton, like John Harbaugh all day, every day.
58:16I can't wait. You know, Amari Hampton, big breakout year for, for me.
58:20And, uh, you can jump on the bandwagon when we get there, Jose.
58:24So, all right, man, go ahead and, uh, let's go into Shev's third breakout here.
58:29Okay. We're going to go hand in glove with Jose.
58:32I took, you took the wide receiver in Tennessee.
58:35I'm taking the quarterback. And I mean, as a Tennessee fan, it feels good to actually feel like we've got the quarterback,
58:42the quarterback situation figured out for once in my life.
58:45Uh, besides, you know, Steve McNair or, you know, the ghost of Ryan Tannehill for a couple of years, it was almost really cool.
58:53So my breakout is going to be Cam Ward.
58:55So weeks 11 to 17, you know, obviously we give, we give players a reprieve for the first few, especially quarterbacks, the first few weeks of the season.
59:04And with Cam Ward, it was, it was ridiculously bad because Calvin Ridley forgot how to catch the football because we were
59:11dependent on Ellic Aoman or Ellic Aoman and the catching Canuck who I loved him as a prospect, but I did not
59:18plan on him playing a significant, you know, a significant role in our target share year one.
59:23Okay. And then you're bringing along Van Jefferson and we couldn't figure out how to use Chica Conquo and, you know, Chameer DK was getting gadget reps.
59:32So all that said, once the dust kind of settled and Cam was like, okay, cool.
59:37So you want me to make chicken salad out of this chicken, whatever that you just gave me.
59:43Cool. I'll do that. League best 10 to one touchdown and interception ratio weeks, 11 to 17, you know, sixth and deep
59:50throws had a 61% first read target share. That was good for 18th.
59:54That number, Hey, those are rookie numbers. We got to get those numbers up and that's exactly what happens.
60:00And that's exactly why you go get Wondell Robinson.
60:02That's why you go get a Carnell Tate at pick four.
60:06That's why you hire Brian Dayball. So now the benefit, all the benefit that Jackson Dart was given for his rookie season.
60:13Now we're going to get an actual adult in the room to call plays that little ball, shiny head.
60:19I promise you, if we can get to 10 wins this year, I will kiss.
60:24I will kiss Brian Dayball on the top of his head.
60:27So I am thrilled about the way that it looks.
60:30I mean, this is with no one being able to get open.
60:34So he was holding the ball, taking a lot of sacks.
60:37Our offensive line wasn't as solid and he's made the adjustments.
60:41And the one thing that you've heard Cam Ward say in the OTA press conferences is just how the offense has easy buttons built in for him.
60:49One of which being Carnell Tate, another being Wondell Robinson, Tony Pollard is still there and he's fully recovered.
60:55He was at four, six to carry and a thousand and 80 or 80 rushing yards last year.
61:01That's after basically not being able to run the ball for the first seven weeks of the season.
61:07So 19 throwaways because you didn't have Carnell Tate and Wondell Robinson out there and Calvin Ridley once he got hurt and
61:14just, you know, I think Calvin Ridley's retired and just not told everybody else yet.
61:18So, you know, 19 throwaways, second only to Caleb Williams, who was at 30 in this, in that same, that same, you
61:25know, eight weeks, seven weeks stretch or whatever. So I think Cam Ward, this is bullish signal.
61:31I have him ranked the highest amongst me, Casey and Jeremiah, my co-host on the FF dynasty.
61:36I have him ranked the highest because I think that, I think that this is an easy, I mean, the talent, like watching football.
61:43That's what I base. I like, I base everything in like watching, watching players play and then being like, Hey, can I quantify this with numbers?
61:52And like Cam Ward just does things that take your breath away.
61:55It's my homes. I'm not saying that he's my homes because he's not tied to one of the greatest coaches of all time.
62:03You know, Brian Dayball might be that. I don't know.
62:06Maybe I'm a little bit. No, I mean, we know he's not that, but he can call plays coordinator face, whatever you want to call it.
62:14So with Cam Ward, I'm extremely, I'm extremely bullish because he stared down quite literally the most difficult schedule for, you know,
62:21for, for any team in NFL history. That was a, that had the number one pick and he outperformed those expectations.
62:28If you actually watched him play, or you can just take the spreadsheet around and be like, no, I'll just look at
62:34his air net yards per attempt and decide whether or not he's good with football that way.
62:40So yeah, Cam Ward's my guy here. Yeah. I mean, I think that the, the, what you're talking about, like watching football,
62:47you, you saw the progression, especially like we always talk about the bi-weeks being important for rookies to make those changes at
62:54like skill positions, but you saw that from him, like you quoted from 11 week, 11 to 17.
62:59I mean, he only had one pick at the beginning of the first week, eight, nine games.
63:05It was a pick a game almost his sacks that he was taking also greatly improved, right?
63:10He was taking like six sacks and mold six, five sacks in multiple games.
63:14His most sacks he took was four. There's some games where he wasn't even sacked at all.
63:20Right. Now, obviously that has something to do with the offensive line, but for rookie quarterbacks, holding onto the ball too long is a problem.
63:28And I think you saw the development in Cam Ward.
63:31I mean, playing quarterback in the NFL is not easy.
63:34Cam Ward came out. I don't think he was touted as like, so, you know, elite level, like I guess not elite
63:41level, but I'm talking about like when Joe Burrow came out or Trevor Lawrence came out or et cetera, et cetera, right?
63:48Like these players that we know, oh, these guys are going to go into the hall of fame.
63:53We already know. And we've seen with Trevor Lawrence, it took him some time to get adjusted and find the right coach and find the right situation.
64:02So I definitely think that Cam Ward, you know, I mean, I'm calling out Tate as a breakout.
64:08I'm sure hope for that to happen. Cam Ward has to play well.
64:12Somebody has got to get him the ball, no matter how much he can catch it.
64:17So I definitely hope that Cam Ward is taking that step.
64:20I can see it. You saw it progressing. You'd hope he can get a little bit more rushing.
64:26I know that's not his, like Jackson Darley, his calling card, but you know, he has a bigger frame.
64:32And when you were talking about the OTA news, I thought you were going to talk about that he dropped 10 pounds.
64:39I don't know why that's that sometimes those sleeper notifications, the things that make, you know, pop up.
64:44I'm like, why is that that important? But I guess they thought it was important to mention that he said he dropped 10 pounds because he's eating better.
64:53I'm like, all right, man, like sure. But, uh, um, no, but better than, you know, Caleb Williams gaining 10 pounds, right?
65:00Oh, I mean, I did. I was like, I was trying to figure out if those were AI, man.
65:06Talking about like, is it AI? I was like, is that real?
65:10What happened? I mean, Chicago has got one of the best food scenes, but damn.
65:15Um, but no, yeah, I'm in. I think, I think there's definitely reasons to be positive.
65:20Um, it was a train wreck with the coaching staff and everything that was going on there.
65:25And, um, every arrow is just pointing up the coaching, uh, pointing up the help that they've gotten him in the wide receiver room is pointing up.
65:33So it should only get better. And if Cam Ward can develop with day will, I think, um, you know, it's wheels
65:40up for that offense and that team. Yeah. I love the cam word chat.
65:45I'm huge on cam word. I think probably the most underrated aspect from him and what doesn't show up unless you watch
65:52the film is just his presence in the pocket.
65:55He is, he, he just has a feel for it.
65:58You can tell. And as a rookie stepping up into the pocket, making the throws is, it shows that he has, you
66:05know, he has the skill to play this position.
66:07And I think the one thing that really sold me last year watching was the, it was late in the season, the
66:14throw he'd stepped up out of the pocket, moved up in.
66:18And as he's falling forward, he throws the ball sidearm almost directly sideways to his wide receiver.
66:23I think it ended up being an incomplete pass because he touched the ground before, you know what I'm talking about?
66:30Yes, of course. I'm a real Titans fan, bro.
66:33I'm not playing around with you. That, that play, it, it felt really special to me.
66:38And even though it was an incomplete pass, just having the presence to know where your receiver is as you're stepping up
66:45and then to have the ability to make that kind of throw to your receiver.
66:49It did feel Mahomesian to me, like, like you're saying, Shev.
66:53So I love the call out. I can't wait to see what we get from cam word here in 2026, but let's keep moving on here.
67:01Jose, why don't you go ahead and shout out your third breakout here, man?
67:05Yeah. For my last one, it's, it's a running back.
67:09Zach. Um, it's, I had a bit of a tough time deciding who I wanted to go with.
67:14Ultimately, I landed on quit Sean Judkins. Um, I think I'm just going to, you know, look at the rookie numbers, although
67:21his yards per carry were not the greatest and kind of just, uh, bank on that.
67:26He's kind of going to get a lot of the touches.
67:30He already got a ton of, um, touches when he was there.
67:33Uh, and he kind of has two breakout ankles first, right?
67:37He already had touchdown equity. It seemed like he was the goal line back when the, you know, scarce opportunities that he,
67:44they had to, um, score touchdowns, you know, he has seven rushing scores, um, playing for the Browns who, I mean, maybe that was all seven touchdowns.
67:52They scored. I don't know. Um, second his, he was pretty involved in the passing game, although he didn't profile as like
67:59a huge, um, uh, receiving target, right? He had 36 targets as a rookie, which is not, you know, anything crazy, but
68:06it's definitely, I think more than people were expecting, especially when they also drafted Samson and, um, with the other running backs
68:13that were there, I think, um, he's just the best running back.
68:17And if the offense could take a step, if they can figure out who the quarterback is, apparently, um, you know, Deshaun
68:24Watson now is, is, uh, according to whatever reports reading the playbook, taking on great with the new coach.
68:30I don't know what to think there believe, but, um, I'm just going to bank on that Judkins is a good player
68:37and that we, um, liked his profile prospect. And if the Browns offense could just be slightly better than all, it would
68:44only get better for Judkins who already had a pretty decent year before the injury.
68:48I think that's also, um, the last bit of concern is his injury.
68:52So, um, but I think that's kind of baked into what his value is.
68:57I think a lot of people are not necessarily, um, fully bought in on Judkins.
69:01They're not, um, thinking that, you know, he's going to be the breakout.
69:06I think a lot of people obviously are leaning towards Hampton and looking at Gentty and other, um, running backs from that class.
69:13And I think Judkins is kind of being forgotten.
69:16So I think for Valley that you could get from him, I think he's, uh, a decent breakout candidate.
69:22What do you, uh, Go ahead, man. So this is the, this is the original, this is the origin of the seminar, this player specifically.
69:29So Jose, I don't know if you want to be best friends, but I don't know if I'm going to give you a choice, bud.
69:37All right. Like I, so I, I watched Quinshawn Judkins as an 18 year old freshman at Ole Miss.
69:43And I just started counting down the time to where he could enter into the NFL.
69:48I have been, I have been ridiculously excited about Quinshawn Judkins as an NFL player.
69:53And we were seeing that with no train, basically no training camp, like no ramp up just, Hey brother, we don't know
70:00if you're going to be like, if you're just going to be like, have freedom.
70:05Okay. That's the baseline. And then he goes from that to like, Oh yeah, I'm going to play football and I'm going
70:12to be real good at it too. So the origin of, you know, the origin of my love for Quinshawn Judkins goes back to 2023.
70:20And then somebody asked me about him on a podcast and I, one, I preferred him to Travion Henderson.
70:25And I honestly, I still kind of prefer him to Travion Henderson.
70:29It's just that Travion Henderson is in so much more of a positive environment that we can project, you know, you know,
70:36offensive, offensive utility instead of futility, like that you have to kind of do with the Browns.
70:42And so somebody asked me about him and I was like, yeah, when I watched Quinshawn Judkins play football, I want to,
70:48I want to, I want to build things with my hands.
70:52I want to turn power tools on. I'm just standing here bricked up in the cement aisle about Quinshawn Judkins and nobody seems to care.
71:00So that's where the cement aisle thing came from.
71:03So I absolutely love this call out Jose. I just could not be more excited about talking about Quinshawn.
71:09I'll never get tired of talking about Quinshawn Judkins.
71:11Just as a, like, I don't know what the word I'm looking for here, but just so y'all know, this wasn't like
71:18pandering to Chef since he's our, I've never had a conversation with Chef.
71:22J-Mac was the one that, you know, talked, got Chef on the show.
71:27We've never had, I mean, I've watched Chef's content, but like, just know that this was not pandering to our hosts, our third hosts or our guest here.
71:35It just completely lined up that, you know, this way, just, you know, and that we became best friends.
71:41Like that's, that's all I'm walking away with this podcast with now.
71:45Did we just become best friends? Exactly. I do.
71:48I, so I'm dead like serious. Like, I, I mean, I, yeah, this is my first, I didn't see the show sheet until we were live.
71:56So I, you know, I put together my, like my own notes and stuff, but I would, yeah, when I saw that,
72:03I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes me real excited.
72:07Oh yes. Thank you for that. I don't feel like we get to talk about, I don't feel like we talk about Quinchon Jenkins enough.
72:15I don't know for sure because we can't see below Jose's chest, but I'm pretty sure his pants were off when you
72:22were talking about how many shares of George Pickens you had, because he's a huge George Pickens believer.
72:28And I, I am the detractor on this podcast.
72:30I, I think he gets in his own way mentally, which is, you know, why I like when you call, you know,
72:37gospel George for Carnell Tate, like that gets me excited because I like George Pickens talent.
72:42I do, but I just can't, I can't buy into it because I know that it's just volatile when he's on the
72:49field, but let's get, man, dude, he is crazy as a cat in a room full of rocket care, brother.
72:56I like, I fully acknowledge that I like for, for a couple of years, the first couple of years, I tried to
73:03ignore it and just be like, Oh, that's just, Oh, just couple of just God, just being a dude.
73:08And it's like, Oh no, he's actually crazy. Okay.
73:11So we got to factor that in good thing that we got the ceiling outcome.
73:16So at least we can sell for like close to what he's worth.
73:20So I get it. I totally get it. No, that's good.
73:24Yeah. And then just my quick thoughts on Judkins here.
73:27I love the call out too. I'm all in on Judkins.
73:30I think he is greatly underrated in the rankings right now.
73:34Like I think he should probably going around like RB seven, RB eight in rankings.
73:38And I think he's probably more around like RB 12 or 13 at this point.
73:43I love the call out this, this, this is a dude.
73:47When we talk about the tale of two seasons, like we were talking about with Tyler Warren, people forget how he, that
73:53middle of the season happened for him because I think it was the first two or three games that he didn't end
74:00up playing, but man, he, he was really good.
74:03And I'm not really concerned about the injury all that much.
74:07I think he has a good season. I think he, especially too, they invested in that offensive line and I think it's going to be a lot better.
74:16I honestly think the Browns are just going to surprise people this year with their offense.
74:21If they can get even halfway decent quarterback play from one of their seven quarterbacks, I think it'll be okay for them.
74:27So you wish they had like some sort of morph, like if they just combined all of them, they like the power Rangers.
74:35Yeah. Like, like a morph suit for, for a quarterback for the Browns.
74:39You could get like one decent guy to play quarterback.
74:42That'd be great. Hopefully they figure that out sometime soon, but until then let's talk about my last breakout here and this
74:49one, you know, guys, I, I didn't really feel comfortable calling him out as a breakout, but I'm just going with my
74:56heart here and, and what I think is actually going to happen.
75:00And that's Elijah Waffle House, Surratt is a Surratt or Surratt.
75:03I don't know. Let's just call him Waffle House.
75:06He was a favorite prospect of mine for this year, man, his career in college, 44 touchdowns.
75:11This is the most out of any of the other wide receivers coming in this year.
75:16I think that's even more than Tanner Cozio who had like, like 20 touchdowns in a season or something like that.
75:23But 179 first downs. Also, this dude has a nose for the chains.
75:27That's a good for a 12 and a half percent first down per route run, 23% target per route run, and then
75:34zero point, I'm sorry, 2.6 yards per route run.
75:37Those are great analytics coming in. Honestly, one of the better analytics of, of all these, the prospects coming in.
75:43And I just think that it's a great fit with the Ravens.
75:47Also, I think a lot of people assume Declan Doyle is going to be like a Ben Johnson imitation, but he had
75:54six years under Sean Payton before his one year with Ben Johnson.
75:57So I'm expecting more Payton than Johnson, which to me is going to lean less on 12 personnel.
76:03You know, Sean Payton's offenses have been less than 15% 12 personnel over two years, which is important because it's conducive to a slot role.
76:11And there's been a lot of smoke for Surratt to be in that big slot role for the Ravens, which is what has me so interested in him.
76:20Now, even before I liked him as a prospect, we have Matt Harmon saying that he thinks Surratt would be very good in that big slot role.
76:28When we see these guys that come out that don't separate all that well, a lot of times is when they succeed
76:35in the NFL is because they get put in the slot, like Arashi Rice or, um, oh man, I'm blanking.
76:42Who was the Pittsburgh guy that Juju Smith Schuster?
76:44Thank you. Um, yeah, he had, uh, we're talking back of Surratt now, 83.3% success rate versus zone coverage, second best in the class.
76:52They drafted also Jacoby Lane ahead of Elijah Surratt, but he's, you know, the more prototypical outside X receiver.
76:58And then you have the smoke of the general manager to Costa saying that Elijah Surratt is really, really good on the
77:05inside, even though his profile has extensive use on the outside.
77:08That just means he's multifunctional. And I think in this offense, a Sean Payton offense, there's usually a big guy in the
77:15middle of the field that's stretching the seams. And maybe that's Andrews here, but I think it could be Elijah Surratt.
77:22He has a great profile to do that. I think he can create a lot of space with the ball in his hands while he's in motion.
77:30He's not out there going to, you know, breaking a lot of tackles.
77:34And that was more of the Omar Cooper Jr.
77:37role, uh, in the Hoosiers, but you've seen it from him that he can have, uh, a big role in the intermediate of the field.
77:45He's really good on slants and out routes. And I just, I think, I think if, if the role goes to where
77:52he is and he's on the field 80% of the time in that role, I think we're going to see a lot
77:59of good things from him because he's twitching enough to sell the roads and sell the routes with great hands and just not slow either.
78:07You know, a four, four, five 40 at the pro day.
78:10It all of these things lean into that role of a big slot.
78:14And I just, I can't, I can't get off of him, especially two cents.
78:19The draft capital that you have to put into him, you can get him in the third round.
78:24Sometimes I've been smashing him in the late seconds of my rookie drafts.
78:28I have him in a ton of places and I'm, I'm really looking forward to what we see from him here.
78:35So what do you guys think about it? Chef, give me your thoughts.
78:39He was a guy that I was, I kind of had earmarked.
78:43I wanted a different landing spot than Baltimore just because, just because of what traditionally like night flowers has been the only
78:50receiver outside of Hollywood Brown that, you know, Hollywood Brown had 140 targets at one time and turned in like a top 15 season once.
78:58And so Zay Flowers has been the iteration that has succeeded.
79:01And I think that with Declan Doyle, I think that he will thrive.
79:05I think that this is an interesting notion because I do believe Mark Andrews is done.
79:10And so you need someone to command and dominate the middle of the field to make it easy, you know, to make it easy for Lamar.
79:19And they hadn't, they haven't had that, you know, since Mark Andrews suffered the car accident and then all, you know, the
79:25ankle injury, he just hasn't been the same guy.
79:28So for me, I think that this is an opportunity for them to kind of rebuild, rebuild their passing tree into something that's more wide receiver centric.
79:37And you have, you have the utility where we saw Elijah Surratt succeed almost exclusively outside as, you know, with Omar Cooper
79:44pretty much dominating the slot in 2025. So those, we, everybody talked about the back shoulders and then that became a narrative
79:51about how Elijah Surratt can't separate, but he's also a ball winner and you have insane career production, 44 touchdowns for a wide receiver is absurd.
79:59And you could say, Oh, it came at a lower level.
80:02James Madison made the college football playoff this year.
80:05So they were gearing up. Okay. So that's not a program.
80:09That's not a program that you can just turn your nose up at.
80:13So I like this call here. I, I was really disappointed just because, you know, you kind of helmet scout and it's
80:20like scouting Tennessee wide receivers, scouting Baltimore wide receivers for fantasy utility just hasn't really lent itself to something.
80:26But if you're going to make a bet, be early to this party, because there could be a changing of the guard.
80:32If Lamar starts to run less, because I mean, we saw the report where his hamstring just wasn't the same after the injury.
80:40We know that he can win as a, as a quarterback from the pocket.
80:44I mean, he had the highest passer rating season of all time just two years ago and through 40 touchdowns and four picks.
80:51So if that changes, then yes, this is a wonderful call.
80:55If it doesn't change, then it costs you nothing.
80:58He's, he's going in the third or the fourth round of your rookie drafts sometimes.
81:02So if you have bullish signal, like, you know, like brother Machado here and you're like, Hey, I like this.
81:09I want to be early to the party. This is a guy kind of like a Rondé Gaston with me last year where you can load up.
81:17And then all of a sudden there's a guy who's worth, who you paid a third for that.
81:23Once we get some real good signal, five weeks in the season, you could sell for sometimes for a late first, probably
81:30like early seconds, especially if he's, you know, if he's, if he's performing, people get real, real horned up.
81:36Male pattern rookie horniness isn't just for the draft thing.
81:39It's during the season. Yeah. If it lasts more than four hours, call a doctor though.
81:44Yes. Yeah. All right. What are your thoughts, man?
81:47Yeah. I mean, I think we've been locked in on Surratt for a while.
81:51I do agree with Shev that during the draft, you were hoping for something a little bit better, a little bit more
81:58of a clear situation, but this is the post Harbaugh era.
82:02I think we do need to kind of rethink some of the things we think about the Ravens going forward.
82:08Harbaugh was there for a long time. He was running the show, even though he wasn't the offensive, you know, my mind,
82:15but he was still the head coach. Everything ran through him.
82:18So I think for Lamar, for everybody there, we kind of have to rethink and see what, what's going to happen now
82:25with the new coaching staff and everything that you were bringing up.
82:29So I, we've liked Elijah Surratt, his profile. He was one of our favorite wide receivers outside of kind of the big three or four.
82:37So I I've been in the same spot with you anytime, any chance I get late second, third round, I'm stamping Elijah
82:44Surratt, just especially in this sort of rookie draft where there is not, you know, a ton of players to be super excited about.
82:51If there's somebody that you are, you know, getting the male pattern horniness for, they might as well, you know, shoot your
82:58shotgun, take the, take the guy that you're excited about instead of just somebody who you don't, you know, you have no, no interest in whatsoever.
83:06Yeah. I mean, like, you know, like girls are cool and all, but you ever had a third round rookie pick that
83:13you, you know, that you, that you just hit on and now you can get a first four or he's just performing in your lineup.
83:21So you got them across like 20 leagues. Hey, there are very few feelings that exceed that.
83:26Like, like, like John Hamm in a club. Yeah, exactly.
83:30It's so good when you can do that. All right.
83:33That feels like a good point to end on here.
83:36That was a great episode. Chef, thanks so much for coming on, man.
83:40That was a ton of fun. Why don't you go ahead and shout out where the rest of the listeners can, can
83:47find all your, your great content and information you're putting out there, man.
83:51Oh man. I appreciate, I appreciate the opportunity. This is, it's always awesome.
83:55Right now we're getting into, we're getting into trying to parse together what it's going to look like.
84:01You know, we've gone through rookie, you know, rookie evaluations and now we got landing spots and stuff.
84:06So all that said, Hey, you can find everything that I'm doing over at the FF dynasty and the FFD fantasy.
84:13We've got the redraft side that I do that I handle primarily during the season.
84:18And then, you know, we've got my podcast that I found in two guys, one pod with Addison at duck league champ.
84:25So I'm at chef 90 on all the socials.
84:28Follow me. We can, we can go back and forth.
84:31Just keep it respectful. I think there's a sect of people on the internet that just find me and want to argue about stuff and I'll do it.
84:39I don't mind at all. Just keep it respectful.
84:42Like I won't, I will never say anything cross to you as long as you don't say anything crazy to me.
84:49I love it. Hey man. Yeah. Again, thank you, chef.
84:52We really appreciate you. We're going to hit the outro here and yeah, it's, it's fun, man.
84:57I love these breakouts. Hopefully we can have you again on another time, chef, but with that, let's, let's pass it to the sign us off here, man.
85:06Yeah. Again, thank you, chef, for taking time coming on to our podcast.
85:10We really appreciate it. Please guys go check out all his stuff.
85:14He makes great content. I'll have the podcast he's on with his cohosts.
85:18It's a great time. Again, if you want a roster review or anything that you can find this future first pod, um,
85:25future first part of wherever you get your podcasts on YouTube as well.
85:29Um, please follow, like subscribe, comment, touchdown on that like button, go for two, um, everything, you know, it was a great time.
85:36Hopefully you guys, you enjoyed it. And, uh, as always we're future first and, you know, thank you for sticking with us.
85:43Exactly. Yeah. These breakouts, hopefully, you know, put in your comment, who you think is a breakout.
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