Devy Dojo - Top 12 Devy QB Rankings: Future Dynasty Cornerstones
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Malik WashingtonMalik Willis
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Malik Washington
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Blue tier placement in devy rankings; true freshman at Maryland showing excellent arm talent and field reading ability with tantalizing upside. Standout at Manning Passing Academy with greatest throws of the week per Todd McShay. Has deep ball talent and can play under center with strong play-action mechanics and 70-yard bomb capability. Has some rushing ability (not Lamar Jackson level but can contribute yardage on designed runs); sneaky rushing upside with big frame and moldable potential. Decent processor already with room to develop. The source is chasing upside and would love to see him transfer to school with more talent; ranked higher than other analysts due to ceiling potential.
Insight pageMalik Willis
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Being drafted higher than most people in upcoming season due to rushing upside. Will put up fantasy points with his legs; will be productive for a season or two on rosters despite Dolphins team quality. Rushing ability is key fantasy value driver.
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0:48And I'm joined in the dojo once again and as always by my good friend and co-host, Chris, the card man, aka the Devi Shifu man.
0:55How you doing tonight? I'm good, man. I'm happy to be here.
0:58We've had a long road to making this episode happen.
1:01It's been chaos. There was there's fires that you're dealing with in Colorado.
1:05And I commend you for volunteering. You took a day off to volunteer and help some of the evacuees.
1:10So you're a good man for that. And then the next day, a truck ran over my line that ran the Internet to my house.
1:17And then today it almost didn't happen because my computer didn't want to cooperate.
1:20But you know what? We're here now. And America won the soccer match tonight.
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1:27They are going home. Send them packing. So America's still we're still rolling.
1:30And I love that patriotism, baby. And most importantly, the number one thing about America, of course, is football.
1:35That's right. That was a beautiful transition there, Chris.
1:38Nothing more American than football. Right. And I can't think of anything more football than quarterbacks.
1:42Right. I think that that's the most important position in the sport of football.
1:46Obviously, it's just such a cerebral position that you have to be athletic as well, as well as mentally strong.
1:51Right. To process and read the field appropriately to be a high end draft pick.
1:55And of course, in Devi, that's what we're always looking for.
1:58And something that you and I always preach, Chris, is that in Devi, QBs are volatile.
2:03But one thing that I think I think we need to hit the other side of the coin is that when you
2:09hit on one of these in Devi, it's extremely valuable because obviously we're all playing super flex in our dynasty rosters.
2:15And once you get like a high end guy to hit, boom, that's the cheapest you're ever going to get a quarterback
2:21in those formats, typically once they hit. So what we're trying to do right now is identify the next wave, those guys
2:27that got next that are potential, maybe franchise quarterbacks.
2:29So, again, continuing the theme of the last two episodes, we are running through our top 12 Devi quarterbacks, sorted, of course, by our black belt tiers.
2:36So, Chris, without further ado, man, let's just roll right into it.
2:40We'll put the black belts on the screen right now.
2:42Let's get into it. Absolutely. So when I was putting these together, I noticed out of the top 12, we share 10 total quarterbacks.
2:49However, we have them ranked kind of differently. So both of us have one quarterback at our black belt tiers.
2:54For me, it's Arch Manning, which should come as no surprise to the listeners of the dojo.
2:59And for you, it's Dante Moore. And that was a little bit surprising for me that you didn't even put Arch up on your black belt.
3:06You said, I'm going to have Dante Moore standing alone at the top.
3:10So I'd love to hear your rationale for that.
3:12And me, of course, a year ago, we did the same tiers.
3:15I was a legendary fade on Dante. And I have Dante high.
3:19He's my second quarterback. He's in my purple belt tier.
3:21So I agree with you that he needs to be a highly ranked Devi asset at the quarterback position.
3:26But I'm just curious why you have him alone at the top.
3:30Yeah, I mean, it just came as a result of more film review, Chris.
3:34I watched both these guys extensively. I was struggling on who do I put first?
3:38Obviously, right? For a long time, we've both sung the mantra of Manning with his legs kind of elevates him as an asset.
3:44But look, when I looked at the numbers, Dante Moore, actually, when you account for the sacks not affecting the total rushing
3:50yardage, he has more than you would have anticipated.
3:52So I think he provides a stable floor. And really, just looking at the tape again, Chris, he's just more cerebral.
3:58He understands how to process and read the fields.
4:00And his footwork in the pocket mechanically are just sound.
4:03Everything's married together. His foot, his drop back on his step and all the footwork involved in there.
4:08It's mechanical base. And then, of course, that quick snappy release.
4:11He's super, super accurate. Throws a really good deep ball.
4:14And he's just in a good offensive system. I think that if you're just looking at a pure prospect, a pure quarterback, he's head and shoulders above Arch.
4:21I think Arch clearly has more upside with the legs and things like that.
4:25Like, he throws a great deep ball as well.
4:28There's still mechanically a lot of refinement that Arch Manning needs.
4:31I watched eight games on both of these guys.
4:33And Arch Manning, obviously, he did get better throughout the season.
4:36But he was just so inconsistent in his footwork.
4:39And it really affected his accuracy, man. Like, to a point, like, we've talked about the drops that wide receivers had.
4:44But a lot of it was Arch just dirtying it, just being off, making wrong reads, really sticking to one side.
4:50And so looking at that cerebral aspect, I had to put Dante Moore ahead of it.
4:54Totally understand. Yeah, and Dante Moore is fantastic. You talked about his release.
4:58It's among the most impressive I've seen from a guy who basically was a first-year starter.
5:02You know, the reason I faded him so strongly was because of his half season at UCLA.
5:07It was kind of brutal. The stats didn't really show up.
5:10And I thought that this was a guy who looked ugly.
5:13And he's helped me kind of refine my approach to the way that I evaluate quarterbacks.
5:17Because when you just look at what he's able to do and how quickly he gets the ball out and effortlessly throws
5:23it down the field, he's got some of the best deep balls in all of this, you know, Debbie class that we have.
5:30Everybody in college right now, he's among the best as far as deep balls.
5:33And he gets it out very quickly, whether it's going 10 yards or 40 yards.
5:37So he looks beautiful. I understand it completely. I just felt like because, you know, I'm a game theory guy.
5:43I always like to think about the long term, especially fantasy, because that's what we're doing here.
5:47We're talking about fantasy football. I do think that Arch has the better for as far as the running game.
5:53I agree with you. Mechanics were a little off last year.
5:56We talked about this in the middle of the season.
5:59Why did he look so bad? You know, we were so hyped about the Ohio State game to start the season.
6:04And he didn't look great. It just was a little bit, you know, a little bit off.
6:09And him and Wingo didn't have the same connection that I thought that they would So something was off there.
6:14There wasn't that rapport that we expected when he had an entire year to sit behind Quinn Ewers and get, you know,
6:20a rapport with some of these guys in practice.
6:23It was just mechanically a little bit off, as you said.
6:26But he did develop a little bit more as the season went on.
6:29He ended up having a great year. That's the reason why so many people, including myself, have him so high.
6:35But I love that rushing upside. I think he's got a better rushing upside than Dante Moore.
6:40And I know that you're talking about the rushing stats that Dante had.
6:43But I don't necessarily see that being a major factor when he makes it to the NFL.
6:48I don't think he's going to have a lot of designed runs or anything like that.
6:52I think that he might be able to chip in here and there with some yardage.
6:56But I don't see him putting up a ton of fancy points with his legs.
7:00So that's why, for me, Dante is just behind him on the Purple Belt tier.
7:05And Arch is standing alone at the top. Plus the name value.
7:08The name value is always going to factor in.
7:10And we just recently did a show with our friends at the Debbie Planet.
7:14And they're very much about not caring at all about what other people say and where the values are.
7:19They just stick it exactly where they think. It's their rankings and they're going to stick to them, damn it.
7:25And for me, I wish I had that kind of balls.
7:28But I need to factor in. That's ultimately what we're doing here is factoring in a little bit of value.
7:33So sometimes I'll rank guys a little higher than I might think that I actually prefer them because of the name value.
7:39And you have to be able to play those games where you can trade a guy for so much value or X, Y, Z.
7:46You need to be able to appreciate what other people are evaluating a guy at so that you can make those trades and position yourself appropriately.
7:53So ultimately, for me, I view rankings as a congregate of what I believe and what the consensus believes.
7:58And you've got to find a happy middle ground.
8:00But for me, Arch is still the guy. I think he's more or less a lock.
8:05There's some rumbles that he might not even come out next season.
8:08I'm not sure that's going to be the case.
8:10I think if he has a really good year, he's just going to do the smart thing and go in and probably be the 101.
8:17But Dante Moore really does have a good shot at being the 101.
8:21It's close as far as the rankings of NFL draft at this point.
8:24I think that there's a good shot that an NFL team after this season says, Dante's the better passer.
8:30We're just going to take him. But for fantasy purposes, I think Arch has a little bit of a higher ceiling and a higher floor.
8:36I don't disagree with you, Chris. I mean, Arch Manning had over 500 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns alone last season.
8:42That's fantasy gold. It's something that we always, always talk about.
8:45But it's just the risk variance, I think, is something that I prefer a little bit.
8:49And I'm thinking organizationally how they would view it.
8:52Just being that processor. I've talked to you about this, Chris, before.
8:55I'm trying to elevate how I feel about the cerebral aspect of these traits.
8:59We always fall in love with the physical traits, the athleticism, which, of course, are very important.
9:04But for quarterbacks, in order to stick in the NFL, you have to be able to process the game at an elite level and be accurate.
9:11Throw a timing and anticipation. And I just don't see that enough from Arch, who's been in school for a while, who's
9:17been with the supposed great Steve Sarkeesian. All this mechanical shit that he has wrong with him, it should have been developed before now.
9:23Just point blank period. Dante Moore, obviously, the aforementioned freshman struggles that he dealt with at UCLA.
9:28You know, he went through pretty tumultuous time, like Arch, like through the media, what he's had to go through.
9:33Maybe not to the same level because he doesn't have Manning as his last name.
9:37But he went through it. There was people talking.
9:40There was a lot of people that gave up on him.
9:43But Dante Moore, thankfully, didn't give up on himself.
9:45And he took that time and really developed his game.
9:48And I think he's just he's at like the doctorate's level of passer.
9:52And, you know, Arch is looking for his bachelor's right now.
9:54That's how I view it. And so that's why I had to put him there.
9:59But look, I have Arch Manning at two right there in my purple belt, Chris.
10:03So, I mean, it's I didn't move him down very much.
10:06It's just right now I view Dante Moore as the only for sure thing.
10:09Like, I'm not worried about him at the next level.
10:12The other guys, I still have some question marks and there's still projection.
10:16Yeah, and it's almost like I kind of wish Dante Moore came out.
10:19And we talked about that prior to the draft.
10:22I feel like he would have been a better number one overall pick than Mendoza.
10:26Not to knock Mendoza, but he would have been astounding.
10:29And I would be even more excited. I'm pretty excited about the Raiders at this point.
10:33But I would have been even more excited if they had Dante instead of Mendoza.
10:37But I digress. So moving on to our purple belts, as mentioned, you have Arch on yours.
10:42I have Dante on mine. And the only other person I have on my purple belt is Bryce Underwood, who's a guy
10:48who I have been very excited about because of that rushing and passing upside.
10:51And I've been excited about getting him on blue chip.
10:54We've been doing a lot of mock drafts. We've been doing a lot of actual C2Cs and Devi draft startups recently.
11:00I've been able to grab him like mid-second round on blue chip recently.
11:03And I feel like that's just, I'm going to do that every time because I love that upside.
11:08I understand that last year he didn't have the greatest year.
11:11And I mean, Michigan was kind of a whole, you know, we all know the story.
11:16Sharon Moore and OnlyFans and yada, yada, yada. But I feel like with this new coaching staff coming in, Whittingham had a
11:22great year last year, turning Dampierre into a really good college force.
11:25And even Dampierre might be, you know, he's not on either of our lists, but he's like sneaking up some rankings, especially in CFF.
11:31I don't know that he's got the greatest upside for NFL, but, you know, he's made a name for himself because of
11:37what Whittingham was able to do with him transferring from a smaller school at Utah.
11:42And I'm excited for this coaching staff to get their hands on Bryce and kind of reset the boundaries because we've seen flashes from Bryce.
11:48We know what he can do with his arm.
11:51We know what he can do with his feet.
11:53It was just ugly last year. It was exactly that.
11:56It was highs and lows. And it almost seemed like if you just look at the scouting reports and the, sorry, the
12:02stat lines, it almost looked like it was more lows than highs.
12:05But there was certainly some times in the middle of games where he could be absolutely electric.
12:10So I'm just chasing that upside, which is why I have him here on my purple belts here.
12:15I feel like fantasy wise, he's got an absolutely astounding ceiling.
12:18He's still young. You know, he was a true freshman last year.
12:21He's got a couple of years ahead of him.
12:23If he can get the right kind of coaching, much like Dante Moore did after he transferred to Oregon, he's going to
12:29have an opportunity to really make himself a very much a threat for the first round, if not high in the first
12:35round as one of those guys that NFL scouts are just drooling over because of the things he can do with his legs and his arms.
12:43I do think that based on what we've seen, he is, he's volatile.
12:46So this is a bold ranking, I think, to have him at QB three for me.
12:50I totally understand why other people don't have him quite as high because the bottom could just fall out.
12:56And Michigan's a place that's always got those quarterbacks, those five-star quarterbacks are sniffing around, thinking about where they're going to recruit, where the NIL money is.
13:03So if he has another rough year, man, the bottom could fall out.
13:06We might see him playing at Fresno State or something next year.
13:10You know what I mean? But I'm still pretty happy about the overall upside.
13:14And as we'll see as we continue this quarterback tiers, I'm a little bit lower on the quarterback future, I think, in general.
13:20And you might be the same way. There's not too many guys who I feel like are like slam dunks once we
13:26start to get into the four or five sixes, you know, and beyond.
13:29I agree. Yeah. And then rounding out your purple belt, you have JKS, Jaren Kiawe Sagatopole.
13:34No. Oh, no. Yeah. I didn't even try it.
13:36Hey, look. I just pulled JKS on the graphic.
13:39Look, Chris, we're going to get you there. It's Jaren Kiawe Sagatopole.
13:42There you go. I mean, you nailed it. And you also have Darian Mensah on your purple belts here.
13:47And for me, he's not far after. He's on my blue belt.
13:50But two guys that have tremendous talent and also are threats to be first round picks in the future.
13:56Yeah, for sure. So we both at QB3 have a guy that's projected to have quarterbacks that are projected to be in the 2028 NFL draft class.
14:03Of course, you got the aforementioned Bryce Underwood, who I still believe in, Chris.
14:07I did just kind of want to touch on some things that you that you spoke on.
14:11Believe it or not, environment matters, right? Especially for quarterbacks.
14:14We talk about that all the time for the NFL players.
14:17That transition from high school to college is a big jump.
14:20If you don't have a legitimate coaching staff in there that's taking the time to develop these guys properly, hell, to install
14:26an offensive system that complements each other, those route concepts that Michigan were running, just they didn't feed off each other.
14:32They didn't try to, like, design the defense to go in.
14:35They didn't do anything creative. It was just very vanilla, bland, and terrible.
14:38So married that with, again, some poor mechanics, specifically his footwork, which really affected his accuracy, resulted in a bad season.
14:44But we, I do agree, chase that upside. I like that.
14:47But, again, kind of like with our selections between Arch Manning and Dante between us, I went with JKS because at three
14:53there, I went JKS at three because of the processing that he was able to show as a true freshman.
14:58Mechanically, dude, he's already an NFL level. He's already an NFL player.
15:02So, like, I like that. And, again, he's not going to get you very much with his legs.
15:07But, again, like Dante, he'll kind of give you, like, a stable four of, like, third down.
15:11He's got to have it. He'll get you a little bit there.
15:14But in those six-point passing leagues, which I primarily play, he's still going to be able to be a guy that's productive
15:20at the next level, I believe, because of his cerebral traits and that rocket cannon arm dude, quick, snappy release, super accurate.
15:26Like, the dude's got it. Whatever it is, I see it all over JKS.
15:30I watched that final game of the season versus SMU, and, oh, baby, man, he was putting on a show.
15:36He had a shootout with Hawaii, excuse me, with Micah Alejedo, and that was another just banger.
15:40They unfortunately lost that game, but, like, this dude just impressed the hell out of me.
15:45He didn't look like a freshman that committed to Oregon and then said, actually, nah, I'm not going to do this, and transferred to Cal after the fact.
15:52I believe that's the first time we've seen that happen where they enroll, and then they're like, nah, I'm transferring before I've
15:58even played a snap as a freshman. So there was, like, all these whispers, like, what's going on with him?
16:04And then he just came out and balled out, dude.
16:06I have to respect that. So that's, I just thought it was funny, though, Chris, that we both have 20, 28 QBs there.
16:13It's just, who's the QB one of that class, man?
16:15That's the debate, right? I say JKS. You clearly think it's still Bryce Underwood.
16:19Yeah, absolutely, and JKS is on my list, but he's a lot further down from me.
16:24I don't know. Maybe it's a bias against left-handers.
16:26Left-handers, man, I can't always wrap my brains around it, and I feel like because of that, some of the wide receivers
16:32don't wrap their brains around it either. You know, they're in practice, but I feel like it's just a whole different ballgame.
16:38You know what I mean? You're talking about transitions from high school to college.
16:42Talk about transitions from going from a righty to lefty.
16:45That's a whole different thing, but he does have flashes, you know, and both him and Bryce, when you adjust based on
16:51drops from last season, they're two of the guys that bump up as far as their accuracy metrics.
16:56When you remove drops, both of them are better than they were on paper based on that alone, and I think Bryce
17:02is going to have a slightly better receiving cast this year, and same with JKS.
17:06There was just not a lot of help for him last year, too, and, you know, true freshmen, that's a tough environment
17:12to be in when you're at the collegiate level, power four, and you have not a lot of help out there because
17:18it's like you're doing what you can, and the guys just aren't there.
17:21They're not giving you what you feel like is needed from you, so they might be suffering from success as far as
17:27their overall talent versus what they have out there as supporting casts, but I'm still a little bit lower on him.
17:33I just need to see a little bit more from him because he doesn't have that same rushing upside, and again, that's
17:39going to be, I'm going to beat that drum forever with quarterbacks.
17:42That's what I'm looking for from fantasy quarterbacks. That's why I'm drafting Malik Willis higher than most people here in this upcoming season.
17:48I don't care that the Dolphins suck, man. He's going to run the ball.
17:52He's going to put up points, so let's just do it.
17:55As long as they're putting up points for a season or two, I'm happy to have him on my rosters, and then
18:01the other guy we had here was you had Darian Mensah on your purple belt.
18:05He's on my blue belts here, obviously a fantastic year last year, Duke, and we've talked about this before, but Miami is
18:11the place to go if you're going to transfer as a quarterback because they keep turning these guys out.
18:16They made Cam Ward the 101. They made, I'm losing my names here.
18:20Carson Beck. Carson Beck. I kept wanting to say Cooper Barcate, and that's clearly not the guy.
18:25It's late in the East Coast right now. Same initials, but yeah.
18:28Carson Beck, they made him even a third-round pick, which I think is higher than we were expecting.
18:33Mensah is set up for success this year, man.
18:35This is like, you know, they were in the national championship game, so without a doubt, if he did what he did
18:41at Duke last year, this year at Miami, he's got a real shot, and I think he's a very well-rounded quarterback, and
18:47he shows a lot of the intangibles. He seems like a fantastic leader, and he knows what to do with the ball.
18:53He's got the opposite problem of some of these guys.
18:56He's maybe not got the same physical tools as some of them as far as, you know, that long arm and the
19:02rushing ability, but he really knows how to run the quarterback position very well.
19:06So I wouldn't say game manager because that sounds negative.
19:08You know, I feel like that's a negative connotation, but he's absolutely great at managing the game.
19:13He knows how to play the quarterback position maybe better than everybody else on this list.
19:17Yeah, I've talked about Darian Mensah a lot. I pushed him down slightly.
19:21He was my quarterback three. Now I moved him to QB4.
19:24J.K.S. took that slot in place, but I really like his game.
19:27I know a lot of people struggle with looking at it, and I understand when you're watching the tape, it might look
19:33like he doesn't get the best zip on the ball at all times, but I think it's just the way that he throws the football.
19:40You know, he's more of the lofty type of passer versus that real rotational get that whip in it, but when he
19:46has to, I've seen him be able to fit it into the tight holes.
19:50No pause. You know, mechanically, I think he's sound.
19:52He does really, really good against pressure. Obviously, his kryptonite is going to be blitzes up the middle when the defensive line
19:58is able to get that penetration in the middle.
20:01He kind of collapses, too, or he'll panic a little bit.
20:04He's always looking to make plays or keep plays alive, right?
20:07Like he might not kill you with his legs, but he's typically going to try to scramble around and hit the shot
20:13deep down the field or in their intermediate level zones there.
20:16But sometimes I found Chris, and it was one of my biggest knock that I have on him right now, is that
20:22a lot of times he'll roll into pressure. Like he's trying to make that play, and he actually, you know, makes it
20:28harder for his tackle to stay in pass pro, and he just rolls right into a sack.
20:32He's got to do better in that regard. But typically with pressure in his face, he'll stand tall in the pocket, and he'll rip that B, man.
20:40And that's what I really like. He reminds me a little bit like shades of Russell Wilson, you know, running around out there.
20:46He doesn't quite have the same moon ball that Russell Wilson did.
20:49I don't know many that did. Two did that better than a lot of people.
20:53But again, that touch-type passing, he's layered in over defenders.
20:56He could drop it in the bucket pretty well in that deep shot.
21:00So that has me excited for them to potentially release someone like Malachi Tony, who Carson Beck last year for that Miami
21:06offense just couldn't quite always hit that deep shot.
21:08And I think that if they could have, you know, he could have found Tony a few more times.
21:13So I'm really excited for them to be able to unlock Malachi Tony most of all.
21:18And then, of course, they brought along Cooper Barcate, which was his wide receiver there at Duke, the fellow transfer.
21:23He's got a lot of familiarity in the system.
21:25You talked about Shannon Dawson and this offense before, really starting to elevate the draft stock of these quarterbacks.
21:31And look, I think that he's next in line.
21:33And that's why I have him so aggressively ranked, because I'm projecting some elevated draft capital after this season.
21:38Absolutely. Yeah, I think you summed it up very well.
21:41He's got a real shot to make himself a name in the upcoming draft.
21:45Especially, as we said, there's, you know, it's kind of murky beyond the top guys.
21:49So without a doubt, he's got a real shot to become, you know, the number three guy.
21:53What do we see? Four or five guys every year in, you know, reasonably talented classes that go in the first round
21:59just because of the, you know, the position that they play.
22:02So I think he's got a real good shot of becoming one of those guys that arises this year, especially after the transfer to Miami.
22:09Moving on to the blue tier. We both have Julian San, as mentioned before, I have Dan Mensah there.
22:14I also have Malik Washington and you have Trinidad Chambliss and Bryce Underwood on your blue tier.
22:19Now, Julian San is a guy, obviously with both of us having him here, who looks just like the perfect throwback quarterback,
22:25commands the pocket extremely well and super accurate. I don't know that he has the greatest depth as far as his arm.
22:31Like the arm strength might not be quite up there with some of these other guys, but what we saw out of
22:37him last year, especially as a first year starter was phenomenal, man.
22:40He could put that ball anywhere. The real thing is like parsing.
22:44Where do you define the line between what he's doing and what he's doing with the absolute stellar NFL level talent wide receivers that he has out there?
22:51Because obviously, Carnell Tate was one of the highest picks in the draft last year.
22:55And Jeremiah Smith, we all know he's the golden god.
22:58He's the wide receiver of the future that everybody's looking for.
23:01So he's been the polar opposite of guys like JKS and Bryce Underwood because he has the best supporting cast you could possibly ask for.
23:08But honestly, he's showing it really well. And I think we're even lower than some of our friends in the Debbie world
23:14on Julian saying there's I think our buddies over at the Royale have him as QB one, you know, because he is
23:20so accurate and he just looks so well in the pocket.
23:23Again, maybe not the greatest rushing threat, but he looks like he's ready to command an NFL offense out there.
23:28For me, there's just I just want that upside that I can get from the other guys a little bit more.
23:34I want the tools in this, which is why he landed on my blue tier.
23:38He is my quarterback for he's your quarterback sick, but that's not the end of the world.
23:43That's not a death. No, I don't hate Julian saying I like him.
23:46I think he's just a little limited. Like you said, you know, the arm strength total might not be up there with some of the guys.
23:53You know, that's a sexy trait, man. You know, we all fall in love with the arm strength, but the superpower is obviously the accuracy and super accuracy.
24:01I think, I believe over 77% completion percentage on the season.
24:04I know it was in the high 70s. Like dude was just unreal last season.
24:08I don't care that he had, you know, the greatest wide receiver in the world right now in all of college football and Jeremiah Smith or Carnell Tate.
24:16I really don't give a shit about that, Chris, truly, because he was putting it in place like right where it had to be.
24:22Or, you know, he just put the ball right where he had to be super, super extremely accurate.
24:27There's reasons why people compare his accuracy to Drew Brees.
24:30I think the frame has a lot to do with it.
24:33The height, too. You know, physically kind of looks like that same type of dude.
24:37That's going to be how he wins in the NFL, too.
24:40We know that's obviously a high-end, like, projection and comp, but that's definitely something that I could see happening.
24:45We got to see him take that next step, though.
24:48I think against, once Ohio State entered the playoffs and got into all that and they were playing better defenses, you really started to see him exposed.
24:55You know, he couldn't hide behind the talent anymore because they were collapsing that pocket, really just making him hold on to the ball.
25:02They were getting sacks. He was throwing interceptions. All things that you typically see from a young starter, but he's got to
25:08be able to take that next step. And that's why I think we both have him here in the blue belt.
25:13And personally, Chris, like, I think that this is appropriate.
25:16And you talked about the quarterback landscape. Man, there's, it's iffy.
25:19Like, there's a lot of projection, even including guys like Julian saying who we anticipate to be a high-end draft pick still.
25:25But we don't know, man. The bottom can fall out and we still have to see him take the steps.
25:30Does he even enter 2027? I just have a lot of questions.
25:34But obviously, both have him there. I also had Trinidad Chamberliss there, right there at my quarterback five.
25:39And that's moving up for me. I think I moved him from seven.
25:42And look, I'm still hanging on to what we saw, the magic to end the college football season last year.
25:48I think he was another incredible story. You could argue the best story.
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26:41We all, myself included, anticipated that Austin Simmons would be that dude.
26:44Like, I was all in on Austin Simmons. Still am.
26:47You know, at Mizzou, I think he could be good.
26:50But... He might not even win the quarterback battle in Mizzou.
26:53We'll see. They already named him. They already named him the starter.
26:56Like, I don't care about his frame. Dude's got rushing upside that we've looked for.
27:00Super, extremely accurate, good mechanics in the pocket. Like, he could do it all, in my opinion.
27:05And he's just magical. He was one of those guys that really looked like he elevated the team.
27:10Like, he just... Whatever it is, you know, I talked about that with JKS.
27:13Whatever it is, whatever ARA, however you want to define it, Trinidad Chambliss has that in spades.
27:18And look, he loses Lane Kiffin, but I don't think it really matters.
27:22I think they're going to run a similar enough system, and he's still got...
27:25He's got returning production there. You know, Kiwon Lacy there.
27:28It's a very good team. We anticipate them to be very good.
27:31They're going to get more national exposure. And I'm all in.
27:34Like, this is me planting my flag, Tris, on the Trinidad Chambliss.
27:38And I'm curious to know your thoughts about Chambliss, man.
27:40Is this too high? Again, he was a fantastic story.
27:43You know, between him and Drew Messamaker, it's like, where are we going with this?
27:47Who was the better story last year? They were both fantastic.
27:50Both guys who kind of came out of nowhere.
27:53Messamaker obviously didn't play anywhere. And Trinidad was playing at, what, Juco, I think.
27:56And then got his shot, which was really cool.
27:59And it was awesome to see. It's just always going to be in the back of my mind, man.
28:04I know that he showed it at the SEC, and maybe I'm just like talking backwards compared to some of the things I've said before.
28:11But for a short amount of time, what was it, half of a season?
28:15I don't know, man. I need to see more out of that.
28:18I need to see a full season before I'm willing to put him in my top 12.
28:23Oh, Christopher. It was pretty much the whole season, man.
28:25He came in week two or week three. End of the playoffs, man.
28:29I feel like it was like mid-October. You know, something like that.
28:32Let's see. Let's pull this up because now I'm curious.
28:35I want to see if I'm talking out of my ass here.
28:38Old Trinidad. He was like the polar opposite of Sorsby, right?
28:41He was trying his hardest to make sure that he could stay in the NCAA for another season.
28:46And Sorsby's been like trying to do the backwards thing where he's like, maybe I'll stay, maybe I'll go to the NFL.
28:52Don't compare the two. Sorsby got busted and started screaming addiction and drug litigation.
28:56I'm just talking from a legal perspective, but it was just funny.
28:59He's like, I need to stay in school for another year.
29:02And I think there's a reason he wanted to stay in school for another year because he knows he wasn't quite ready yet.
29:08I don't think he would have been a very high draft pick in this year's class, which was a little bit of a weaker class too.
29:15So I think there's a good reason why he wanted to come back to school.
29:20That's why I don't quite exactly have him on my top 12, but I'm excited for him.
29:24He definitely stands to rise if he has another good year.
29:27Well, just going back to the question about games, he started 13 games if you include all the playoffs.
29:32Started 13. He played in the first two. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:35The Sheaf can be wrong occasionally, folks. The Sheaf is occasionally wrong.
29:39I just had to put that there. I don't always admit it.
29:42When it comes to guys like Dante Moore, I'll admit it.
29:45But I don't always admit it. I'll admit it.
29:47Well, this time next year, you're going to be on your apology tour, and you're going to be adding this name to your list, Mr.
29:54Trinidad Jamelus, Chris. I'm not a full fade like I was on Dante.
29:58I'm just like, for me, he's in my top 15.
30:00He's just not quite in my top 12. We'll see what the future holds for him, though, man.
30:05I mean, I'm excited for him. I hope that he really balls out because he's a great story.
30:10I still think that his ceiling is probably somewhere like day two, you know, getting drafted.
30:15And then I don't know that I see him being an immediate producer at the NFL.
30:19That's why I'm a little bit more because I'm always chasing upside with these guys.
30:23Right. That's what we're doing at Debbie. We're trying to chase upside.
30:26That's what I'm doing at Debbie, at least. And if you're listening to me, that's what you're doing, too.
30:31So I'm not sure that he's got that tantalizing upside that some of these other guys have.
30:36But moving on, Malik Washington is on my blue tier.
30:39And the reason he's there is because I feel like he does have tantalizing upside.
30:43Shout out to our boy, Dynasty Dog Mike. He was just chirping us both in our text messages today saying how good
30:49Malik Washington looked at the Manning, Manning training. What's it called?
30:52Manning Passing Academy this summer. He's been absolutely astounding.
30:54He's throwing some great balls. He's got that deep ball talent.
30:57And I liked what I saw out of him as a true freshman at Maryland.
31:01And I know Maryland's not, you know, a stellar school to be at, but it is a Big Ten school.
31:07And I really enjoyed the overall talent that he displayed.
31:10I think he has a little bit of rushing ability.
31:12I don't think he's got a ton of rushing ability, but he's got a little bit that he could chip in here
31:18and there, you know, design a run from here and there.
31:21He's not necessarily going to be Lamar Jackson, but he can put up some yardage here to give you a little safety valve.
31:28But he does have that tantalizing arm talent, that deep ball.
31:31And I think that he reads the field extremely well.
31:33Again, that's a suffering from success type of situation where his receivers aren't necessarily the greatest.
31:38So I would love to see this guy transfer.
31:40We'll see what happens. You know, the NIL era is crazy.
31:43He might transfer to a school with more talent at some point, but I love what I'm seeing out of Malik Washington.
31:49And our boy Mike said the same thing. And I was looking after Mike texted us, Todd McShay of all people is
31:55saying, you know, he was at the Manning Passing Academy and he said Malik Washington had the greatest throws of the week.
32:01So I'm still pretty high on him. I'm just, I'm just chasing that upside.
32:05And again, the guys that I have below him, I feel like just don't quite have the ceiling that he has, which is why I have him here.
32:12I know he's in your top 12, but he's all the way down on your white belt.
32:17Yeah, I love Malik Washington. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he rises in my rankings, if he has a season that
32:23we hope for, I just don't really trust that Maryland offensive team.
32:26But if Malik Washington were to transfer, man, I, you know, shout out to our guy SC of the Debbie Planet.
32:32He and I were both talking about the same thing today.
32:35If he transferred, man, his name would blow up because he's got those traits, man.
32:39One thing that I really liked that he showed on tape last season, the ability to play under center.
32:44He hit those like classic play action fakes, hit you over the top, like a 70 yard bomb, dude.
32:49Dude's got a cannon for an arm, sneaky rushing upside.
32:52He doesn't like look to use his legs, but when he, when he gets the ability to, he could take it to
32:58the house and he could go pretty far. It's pretty exciting stuff.
33:01A big framed guy as well. So you see the upside, you see like this moldable piece of clay and what he could be at the next level.
33:09And that's what I really like about him. He was a decent processor already.
33:13So I think that going forward, if he just can continue to elevate and develop, I think that he could be really good, man.
33:19So I like this call here. It's a little higher than I have him, like you said, but I love the profile, man.
33:26I put him at 12 to really leave the door open and put my name on there.
33:30And I thought that I was high on him.
33:33So I'm glad to see that you and I are seeing the same thing for once.
33:37Cause our quarterback rankings have been all over the place between each other tonight.
33:41Yeah. Which I think is good. It's good to discuss these things and have a difference of opinion.
33:46You know, again, it's kind of a crap shoot after you go past the top handful of names.
33:51Moving on to our yellow belt tiers. I have CJ Carr, Diabelle and Drew Mestemaker.
33:55And you have Keelan Russell, CJ Carr and Drew Mestemaker.
33:58So we are aligned here in this tier with both CJ Carr and Drew Mestemaker.
34:02And CJ Carr was a guy who I was slightly, just slightly higher on.
34:05And I bumped down a little bit after our most recent episode, which was on the Debbie Planet, where we were doing
34:11a little head to head with those guys. We love those guys.
34:15Make sure you go check out that episode because we were doing a little bit of a dojo versus planet fight off and discuss a few people.
34:22And we discussed CJ Carr specifically. And he's the polar opposite of what I'm looking for in guys.
34:27Cause I think he's got a safe four. Again, he, he plays the position extremely well.
34:31He's cerebral. He knows how to be a quarterback.
34:34He just doesn't necessarily have that high end talent like a Malik Washington or, you know, one of those guys where your
34:40arm is tantalizing and you're, you're wowing people. He knows where to put the ball.
34:44He knows how to play the game extremely well.
34:46He's got that cerebral quarterback mindset. His physical tools just aren't quite the same as you would like to see from those
34:52more raw profiles that we have a little bit ranked higher than him, or I have a little bit ranked higher than him.
34:59But again, he, you know, he's the grandson of a former coach.
35:02He's got a long history in his family of the quarterback position.
35:05I think that he knows how to play the game extremely well.
35:08And I believe that there's a good floor for him because even if he ends up a guy who's like a day
35:14two guy, much like we saw out of Carson Beck this year, you know, where Carson Beck got a round three draft capital.
35:21He's in a position where he could probably start games this year, even though Jacoby Brissett's in front of him.
35:26I think we're all expecting to see him at some point.
35:29I feel like CJ Carr has that same kind of path where I don't necessarily see him being a first round pick,
35:35but if he gets day two draft capital and lands in the appropriate situation, he can learn from a vet and maybe
35:41start even as a rookie because of his overall talent at the quarterback position.
35:45He's a guy that coaches are going to love.
35:47He knows how to be a great plug and play guy.
35:50I feel like he's going to have a long career, even if he's not necessarily a starter.
35:55So there's a good floor there for him. I feel like he's a good asset at this point to rank, you know,
36:01roughly in the back half of your top 10 because there's a high likelihood that he's going to make it in the NFL at some point.
36:08Yeah, I don't really have much else to add.
36:10Honestly, going back to that show that we did with the Debbie Planet, Spencer made a very compelling case, and I think
36:16it caused both of us to kind of reevaluate and move him down.
36:20And it's funny because in conjunction with that, speaking of the Manning Passing Academy and a guy who's gotten a lot of
36:26hype, CJ Carr, according to Todd McShay again, was saying it's not even close.
36:30This dude was the MVP. I don't know how you could have an MVP for like a camp for high schoolers and
36:36stuff like he's a counselor there, but they do do those throwing drills, right?
36:40It's very competitive. They have accuracy drills, all that.
36:42And he looked the part. They said that, you know, the Mannings were having him line up in drills and be like
36:48the first performer to showcase, you know, the mechanics and things like that.
36:52Like he was put as like the on-field coach for a lot of these sessions.
36:56So I think that points to what you talked about with the high IQ.
36:59Obviously, he's like football royalty there, especially in the state of Michigan.
37:03Yeah. You know, a little surprised he didn't go to Michigan, but whatever.
37:06I just, I don't know, man. There's limited upside right there, and I got to see him do it.
37:11He's obviously losing Jadarian Price and Jeremiah Love out of the backfield, and a lot of new transfers, question marks at wide receiver.
37:18We're going to see if Notre Dame will let him cook.
37:21It's Notre Dame, so I don't really expect it.
37:23Mike Dinbrock kind of runs a little bit of a classic vanilla offense.
37:27I think he really wants to establish the run, play good defense, hit him over the top occasionally.
37:32I just don't see them doing anything too exciting, and it's Notre Dame.
37:35So I'm keeping him, I'm leaving the door open because he showed enough that I liked.
37:40He had the sick no-look pass during the season, but a lot of like his, the early schedule last season was their best competition that Notre Dame played.
37:47Those were all the games that they lost, and he didn't look terrible.
37:51They didn't lose because of CJ Carr, but he wasn't really able to do enough to bring them over the top in
37:57those clutch moments where you need the quarterback to raise the talent of the team.
38:01I don't really see that from him, so I'm keeping him down here.
38:04Again, I like when we agree a little bit, Chris.
38:07It makes it easy. We don't have to troll each other all week for our takes, so I'm right there with you on him.
38:14Yeah, and then the other one that we agree on in this tier is Drew Mestemaker, and we both have him here on our yellow belt tier.
38:21Again, we talked about him a little bit already.
38:23Great story last year. Led all collegiate quarterbacks in yardage and touchdowns, I believe, or maybe very close.
38:28And now he's transferring up with his entire offense to Oklahoma State.
38:32It'll be very interesting to see, and I think that's why we have him where we do.
38:36Because, again, we don't have a lot to go off.
38:39There wasn't any high school tape on him. I like watching high school tape on these guys to try to get an
38:45idea, especially when they're freshmen coming in. And we didn't have anything to go off other than what we've seen out of him last year at North Texas.
38:53What we're going to see this year is can he do it again?
38:56Can he continue to elevate himself beyond what we ever thought possible?
38:59I think there's a really good chance because he has that same supporting cast with him, the same coach with him, and
39:05he's going to the Big 12, which isn't the SEC.
39:08It isn't the Big 10, but it's still a very good conference.
39:11So if he can prove at Oklahoma State that he is worth it, it's going to be great for him long term.
39:17But the magic might run out, right? We don't know what's going to happen with Drew Messamaker ultimately.
39:22I think that in general, he goes a little bit higher than I'm willing to take him.
39:27When I'm seeing these mocks that we're doing and these startups that we're doing, I'm not quite ready to press the button
39:33whenever I see him at the top of the ADP queue there.
39:36And I think you're probably the same way because we have him similarly ranked.
39:40I'm letting somebody else take that bullet because I just want to see it again for another year.
39:45And I'm willing to be wrong on that because when you have a guy who comes out of the blue like this,
39:51it's a great story and it's absolutely fantastic to watch.
39:54But I'm not sure that I'm willing to hitch my saddle to him as far as the Debbie asset quite as high as he's going.
40:00Yeah, a lot of people are drafting him like it's a for sure thing.
40:04And again, I think we both played the game long enough.
40:07We've seen real hurtful examples before of what it's like to have the bottom fall out.
40:11I just got to see it. I have a couple of shares in some recent startups that we did just because I want some shares.
40:18But yeah, most times when I'm faced with that decision, I'm going another route.
40:22We both have. So we obviously both agree on CJ Carr and Messamaker in this tier, Chris.
40:27But there's a difference right here that I'm looking at.
40:29I have Keelan Russell in mind and you have freshman Dia Bell.
40:33And that one, Dia Bell was an interesting one for me to see on yours.
40:37And because, Chris, like I'm just thinking right here with Steve Sarkeesian, you know, we we think of Texas as this good spot for quarterbacks.
40:44But Steve Sarkeesian took the number one rated recruit at that time in Quinn Ewers and he turned him into a seventh round pick.
40:50He's taken, you know, the Manning that was promised Arch had years to develop him and he still has mechanical issues.
40:56Right. So I'm not I'm not very I don't really trust Steve Sarkeesian to truly develop these guys.
41:01I'm starting to get legitimate questions about him as a coach.
41:04Like I think he's I'm starting to think he's overhyped, quite honestly.
41:07So I stayed away from Dia Bell there and I went with a guy named Keelan Russell, who, yes, he didn't start last season.
41:14He redshirt or, you know, he sat on the bench and bided his time.
41:17And now it by all accounts, it looks like he's going to be winning that job.
41:22And he's a prospect that really, really excites me.
41:24He's a guy that can use his legs. He's going to look to pass first, but he can use his legs.
41:30And he's very dangerous with his legs when he wants to do it.
41:33I hate projecting and comping these guys to big names, but his style of game reminds me of Jaden Daniel so much.
41:39And just the fact that he's a tremendous passer, mechanically great, that good release, all the things that we look for to
41:45make an accurate passer, plus the added addition of the legs at Bama with a pretty good offense around him, a coach
41:51that has worked very well with quarterbacks. You know, even Jalen Milrow, like Jalen Milrow looked somewhat decent at times with him,
41:57or he at least had him using his legs.
42:00And if we use some more of that RPO action, like what we saw with Jalen Milrow that year, if we could
42:06do that with Keelan Russell this season, baby, it's up.
42:09And you're about to see that ADP skyrocket is a talent that I truly believe in.
42:13And I think it wouldn't shock me if we see him go over Bryce Underwood, because when I was looking at those
42:19two as freshmen, I actually did have Keelan Russell above Bryce Underwood.
42:22I just, you know, in our rankings, we play the market and I still have to put him over, but he's a
42:28guy that I'm very, very excited about, Chris. So go ahead and defend your case and talk to me a little bit about mine.
42:35Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, Keelan's my QB 12. He's in my white belt tier.
42:39I think we're both in agreement. Last year, I think he had a legitimate shot, you know, as they were doing their
42:45summer camp to be in that potential QB one rule for Alabama.
42:48Obviously, Ty Simpson won out and that's not a knock on Keelan Russell.
42:51Ty Simpson, we just saw the Rams of all people take him in the top 15 of the first round.
42:57So if Sean McVay is willing to take, you know, that kind of draft capital on Ty Simpson, which is debatable if
43:03he actually wanted to or not, but still a great organization like that is willing to take a shot on Ty Simpson,
43:09knowing that the tools that he has, that's not a knock on Keelan.
43:12He's just had a rough competition and he was really making it a battle last year.
43:17So he had a year to sit back and it might've been to his benefit because we talked about it a bunch.
43:23Like they had Jeremy Bernard over there, but they didn't have a whole lot in the running game.
43:28So it might've been better for him to have a whole year to sit out and become the quarterback of the future,
43:34which he will now seize that role this year as their QB one at Alabama and Alabama, you know, obviously Saban's not
43:40there anymore, but they've been churning out quarterbacks like crazy, even though not all of them have been fantastic.
43:45A lot of them have made it to the NFL and done things.
43:48And a lot of them are now, you know, either back up somewhere or they're SEC commentators or, you know, they're all
43:54over the place because they know how to play the game.
43:57And he's a guy who is a dual threat that they haven't really had a ton of recently.
44:02Like you said, he's got that rushing ability that is dripping with talent.
44:06If they use him appropriately, and I think Kalen DeBoer can do that.
44:09They can really have a dual threat there. And I think Jalen Daniels is a fantastic comp that you just had because
44:15he does have that type of cerebral passing ability to his game that I feel like Jalen is underrated with.
44:21People see him as a legs first guy, but I don't necessarily see that.
44:24You know, if Jalen, you get them a couple more wide receivers, which they haven't really quite done yet.
44:30They're talking about Traylon Barksby and his wide receiver too this year, but you get them a good core.
44:35Yeah. Don't even get me started on Ayuk, man.
44:37He's, he's blown his own shot to become a commander at this point.
44:41But Keelan Russell, I think has that overall talent that is fantastic.
44:44I even thought about ranking him just a little bit higher than I did, but I had to make sure he was
44:50in my top 12 so we could talk about him here.
44:53So he is in my white belt, but I think that where you have him is perfectly ranked.
44:58I totally agree with you. I think these last few guys, it's like a whole crap shoot.
45:03So for me, he's a little bit lower for you.
45:05He's a little bit higher, but we both have the same type of futures on him and he's got that insane fantasy upside.
45:12For me with Diabel, you know, you're talking about Sarkeesian in Texas.
45:15I get it, but it's just a talent play because he's got that really big body, a really big body.
45:20He doesn't have the same rushing ability as a guy like Keelan Russell or Bryce Underwood, but I think that you can
45:26use him appropriately, especially because that big body. You can make him like a Jalen Hurts type or even like a Ben
45:32Roethlisberger type where he's going to be able to bang guys at the NFL level and definitely at the NCAA level with his big frame.
45:39Pause. Pause, Chris. We're pausing on that. He's going to be able to bang guys.
45:43We'll bang guys. He's just going to do it.
45:46I like what I've seen out of his high school tape.
45:49Obviously, he's going to have to sit behind Arch, hopefully only for one season.
45:52We'll see. Maybe Arch goes back for another. Who knows?
45:55But I think the future is his and who knows what the future holds as far as if Steve will even be
46:01there because you can't predict these things. So it's just a whole talent bet for me because I think he has a really nice arm.
46:08He's got, for me, he's obviously the highest freshman on my board.
46:11I think that he's my QB1 of this class coming in.
46:14I'm excited about what the future holds and I'm willing to be a little bit higher on him just so that I
46:20can get some shares, you know, as the drafts are going.
46:23And I have been taking shares of him this off season.
46:26So I'm excited. I always lean in startups, especially lean who can help me now.
46:30But he's a guy who I'm willing to take a bet on.
46:34And, you know, I'll let him take up a roster spot, even though he's not going to get many points on my C2C leagues this year.
46:41So I'm excited about the future for him. And then wrapping it up on our white belt tiers.
46:46As mentioned, I have Keelan Russell and JKS, who we've talked about.
46:49So we don't need to dive into them again.
46:51You have Malik Washington, who we've talked about. So we don't need to dive into that again.
46:56I have John Mateer and you have Sam Levitt.
46:58I love that we have both of these guys here sneaking in at the end because these were guys who were both
47:04a little bit higher on a year ago when we did these tiers.
47:08Levitt obviously has now transferred to LSU. He's going to be Lane Kiffin's quarterback.
47:12Mateer is still at Oklahoma. And the thing with Mateer is his season was just kind of derailed.
47:17And I'm a little bit shocked that you're not higher because you were very high on him last offseason.
47:22And what I love about him is, of course, that rushing ability because he's a missed tackles forced machine, dude.
47:27When he's healthy, he's tough to bring down. He's a true dual threat.
47:31His mechanics are a little bit crazy. You know, his his like sidearm passing is all over the place.
47:36So it's going to be up in the air if NFL teams are going to really want to look at him.
47:42I feel like he's probably the way he throws the ball might just take him off some boards altogether.
47:47But I love his upside. He started the year so hot last year that he was a high end Heisman candidate early on in the betting odds.
47:54But I feel like if he can have a full healthy season, he's going to really recoup a lot of his value.
48:00And some of us are sitting here just stuck with the material bags waiting, you know, from previous Deve, Zeve startups and things.
48:06And I'm still holding on to the dream, man.
48:09I just want that that overall upside, those fancy points that he could potentially bring to the future, which is why he's here on my white belt tier.
48:17Sam Levitt, of course, is on your white belt tier.
48:19And as mentioned, he's transferred now to LSU. So I'm sure that you're still pretty high on him after kind of, again, a lost season with some injuries.
48:27Yeah, I'm still high on both of these guys, man.
48:30And hey, Matera's getting a lot of steam right now.
48:32Again, talking about the Manning Passing Academy, you know, he looks jacked out there, man.
48:36Like he's big and it's been, you know, it's been revving up my engines a little bit.
48:41I'm back on the Matera train, baby. I didn't completely drop him.
48:44I'm still in. There's still some question marks and I have them right outside my top 12.
48:49And again, these rankings are going to be very fluid as we go through the season.
48:53And if you haven't subscribed to the Deve Dojo and become a paid subscriber there by subbing to our sub stack, look,
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49:03A bunch of ADP for regular Deve Startups. We're doing combined Deve Startups.
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49:25So shout out to them. But Chris, I kept material out and I had Sam Levitt here.
49:30You talked about both of us being higher on these two last season.
49:33And look, they still have a lot of the same things that made us so high.
49:38You talked about John material being this rushing threat.
49:40Sam Levitt is kind of like maybe not as like the slim, thick version of John material, right?
49:45Like he still wants to run. He wants to be a little reckless.
49:49He could throw with some crazy arm angles. They're kind of like the same archetype, just slightly different body build.
49:54But both gunslingers, both ready to try to fit it in, squeezing in tight places.
49:58So I like that we both have them here.
50:01I think the reason I went with Sam Levitt over John material is just because I have more confidence in his play caller for Sam Levitt.
50:08Of course, with Lane Kiffin going to LSU, the weapons, all the money that they've spent to really build this team up now.
50:14I just think that, you know, a Lane Kiffin quarterback is always going to be really productive.
50:19And now we've seen before the thing used to be, you know, he runs a lot of RPOs and they don't have
50:24to process the field and you don't know about them at the next level.
50:28But I think that Jackson Dart has done a lot to put a dent in that.
50:33And I really liked what I saw from Trinidad Chamberlain in that offense, too.
50:36So I think that Lane Kiffin has really evolved and grown as a play caller as well.
50:41You know, he gets a lot of hate, deservedly so.
50:44And I don't think he properly always gets the recognition that he deserves for evolving in his play calling and the designing of his offenses.
50:51And again, we've seen now proof of concept at the next level.
50:54So when I'm looking at Sam Levitt, a profile that I already liked before, I'm projecting now a little bit here.
51:00I think that in the eyes of some NFL evaluators, he might be seen slightly higher than John Mateer.
51:05But to your point, man, John Mateer was on a roll last season.
51:08And we were talking Heisman, right? We were talking first round, first overall pick.
51:12Like, you know, we were going wild with it.
51:15So it's going to be interesting to see who rises, not just between these two, but every year we have risers, right?
51:21So I think that these are two really good candidates to potentially be those guys in a loaded 2027 NFL draft class that can really elevate their stock.
51:28Yeah, without a doubt. And definitely a great place for him to be at LSU.
51:32You know, they've had a couple wide receivers transfer in as well.
51:36So he's going to have some talent there to throw to.
51:39And we obviously saw the magic two years ago with Jordan Tyson at ASU.
51:42So maybe he can revitalize some of that magic.
51:45So we hope that you enjoyed this top 12 Debbie quarterbacks rankings sorted by those color belt tiers.
51:50Look, join us. Our schedule is going to be a little in flux, obviously, with the 4th of July weekend, which this
51:56is going to be kind of going around. Your boy, the sensei, is going to be on vacation for a week.
52:01So looking at another two weeks approximately for the next episode.
52:04But we're going to be continuing the theme of looking at these rankings, Chris.
52:08And you and I are going to go past our top 15.
52:12Anybody past our top 15 that we think has the best chance to elevate their Debbie stock going forward.
52:17It's going to be a real good look at maybe some names that not a lot of people are talking about.
52:22So be sure to stay tuned in. Again, I will say that if you've not become a paid subscriber or joined our
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