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0:58Jeremiah is on vacation, so he's not going to make it, but it's me, Jeremiah and Chev's consensus rankings on theffdynasty.com.
1:05And we're going to go through the top 20 running backs here.
1:09A little different than your standard ranking shows because we're doing a consensus.
1:13So it's not just, hey, these are my rankings, these are your rankings.
1:17We've got them all grouped together and it's spitting out kind of the average of where we're at.
1:23Obviously, that's what consensus is. So without further ado, Shev, you ready to get into it?
1:28How are you feeling today? Hey, sometimes the math be math and on this side of the dirt, I'm ready to get into some running back rankings.
1:37Let's do it. All right. So obviously the two at the top are Bijan and Gibbs.
1:42Take your pick. Pick your poison. I'm a, you know, we got Bijan at RB1 and Gibbs at RB2.
1:48Any statements? Good? Yeah, I'm good. Good to go on that, big dog.
1:52All right. Next, next two guys. It's Gentie and Love.
1:55And, you know, I guess you could make the argument that maybe Hampton or A-chan belongs in there.
2:01But, you know, Gentie and Love would be the next two guys at RB3 for Gentie and RB4 for Love.
2:07Yes. So, yeah, I don't, I mean, I have Devon A-chan in, I mean, I have Devon A-chan at the top in my rankings.
2:15I, I understand why, I understand why we have everybody.
2:18And I like all these guys. We've, we've gotten, we've proven that Ashton Gentie in a dysfunctional environment can still produce.
2:25And that's why, and I think he's prototypical workhorse could threaten and push his way into the, the, the tier with Gibbs
2:32and Bijan, which that's my first tier. So I think he can push his way up there.
2:37I think we, we might be putting the, in terms of value, there's no question, but production wise in year one, we
2:44might be putting the cart before the horse, just like we saw with Bijan, his rookie year with Jeremiah Love.
2:51So that might create a slight buying window. I just don't trust anything that Arizona is potentially doing right now.
2:57But I mean, the Capitol says that it's going to be good, but actually it might, it just might not get, we might not get a ceiling outcome.
3:06And that's why I'm a little bit, that's why I'm a little hesitant to put him in here and be firm, be firm about it.
3:14But from a dynasty perspective, the talent is unbelievable.
3:17Yeah. So you would have Gentie Love and A-Chan in the same tier?
3:21Yes. And would you include Hampton in that tier?
3:24Yes. Okay. I'm comfortable with it. I just want, I just, I, we got to put some respect on Devon A-Chan's name at some point.
3:32Yeah, no, I'm with it. I have, I've got Gentie and Love ranked above A-Chan, but just, it's just a, of overall value standpoint for me there.
3:41And I think those guys have the, obviously the talent and that is viable for, to be up that high.
3:47And, you know, to, for Gentie to have, like you said, a terrible situation year one, I think it's vastly improved in
3:54year two, just from who's in charge, offensive line should be better.
3:58Whether it's Kirk or Mendoza starting, I'm fine with it.
4:01But just the Kubiak run scheme is, is just going to be, you know, tailor made for somebody like it, like a Gentie.
4:09And then Love comes in and it might be ugly, like, like you said, for, just like for Love for year one
4:16for Gentie, but the blue chip prospect there and kind of how he moves and what he does.
4:21Don't, you know, Gentie, it was ugly on the field, but like when you look back on it, Gentie was actually solid.
4:28And I think that's kind of what you're going to see from Love.
4:33Unfortunately, you know, Gentie's division is also has turned into quite the juggernaut.
4:37So you can't even really slight it there, but you know, obviously the, the NFC.
4:42Right, right. That's what I was about to say, obviously loves in the juggernaut division, but Gentie's, you know, Broncos defense is good.
4:49Chargers defenses as turned into something good. You know, so is, you know, solid, solid division over there as well.
4:55So HN and it comes in at RB five and consensus.
4:59And then Hampton comes in at RB six. Right.
5:02And we've made a lot to do about Hampton and how much fun this could be with obviously the scheme change and the offensive coordinator there.
5:10But still, I think he's got to be the sixth man here generally.
5:14Okay. All right. Moving on. This is, this kind of starts a new tier and it's James Cook.
5:20It's Jonathan Taylor. And then I don't know who else you would want to include in the tier.
5:26The, the, you know, average of tiers that it spits out for us has cook Taylor and hall in a tier here.
5:33Would you expand that tier? Or do you think that's a good tier?
5:37I mean, I think it's a good tier, but I mean, we can make it better.
5:42Who, who, what else would you put in there?
5:45I could put Kenneth Walker and chase Brown in there.
5:48Ooh. Okay. Okay. Chase Brown's earned it for you to be in that tier.
5:53Yeah. Why? What, what, what else do we, what do, what do we want?
5:57Right. What else do you want from chase Brown?
6:00Chase Brown is East coast, Eastern time zone. Kyron Williams, Kyron Williams.
6:04But I mean, he catches passes. Right. And he doesn't have a Blake Corham to be worried about.
6:10Right. Why do we, why do we hate, why do we hate chase Brown so much?
6:15Uh, we don't, uh, everybody else does. Cause they just, they've, they were wrong at first and they would just want to
6:22get them replaced and he just keeps being undeniable.
6:25Uh, so there he is. But to repeat, run back through that again, James cook, RB seven, uh, Taylor RB eight and breeze hall RB nine.
6:33And then comes in, uh, Kenneth Walker at 10 and chase Brown at 11 in the consensus rankings here.
6:39In this view, uh, it's not necessarily reflective of Chev and eyes, actual tiering of these players, uh, which is kind of
6:46why we're talking through it a little bit here, but I know maybe some people have a problem with breeze hall being there.
6:53So what would be your defense of that? And I, you know, we went to bat for him last year saying bye.
7:00And I, I view this as kind of the same thing as like I was doing with a lava.
7:06Like I was buying the year before and it missed and I'm just going right back in and buying it again.
7:13And it worked out for a lava and I think it's going to work out for breeze.
7:19I think everything's gotten better around him. I think Gino's an upgrade.
7:22I think they've upgraded the tight end position and they have another decent tight end and Taylor.
7:28They, they obviously added Omar Cooper, Garrett Wilson's a stud 80.
7:31Mitchell's good. Right. So I think this offense is, is ready to go.
7:36And I like breeze is still 25 years old.
7:38Like I think he's one of the best bell cows and the best or top tier receiving back going.
7:45And it's just a discriminately disservice that he doesn't see isn't in the top third of running back targets year over year.
7:52So I just, you know, I, I have no problem having breeze in here and I'm, I'm a buyer and believer of what breeze all can do.
8:00Yeah. I mean with, with breeze hall, I mean, just looking at what Frank Reich traditionally has done in terms of running back target share.
8:08We're looking at 21 to 24% running back target share.
8:11If that ends up being breeze with, you know, five, if they're, he's going to get a 22% or the running backs get a 22% target share.
8:20I personally think that we're getting another top five season for breeze.
8:24If they just, if they just commit to throwing him the football, right.
8:28It doesn't even have to, I mean, sure. You could sprinkle in some Braylon Allen carries, but there's clearly a difference between
8:35breeze hall who they've now paid and the other two running backs.
8:39We like Isaiah Davis. I like Braylon. I love Isaiah Davis.
8:42And I like Braylon Allen. I genuinely think that this is kind of the cutoff.
8:47If we're looking at our rankings for the guys that can finish as the overall RB one.
8:53And I mean, you're looking at, I mean, Jonathan Taylor obviously has done it and was on pace to do it again.
9:00He's 26 points a game for the first 10 weeks of the season.
9:04And breeze hall was the running back too. I think that could go to running back one.
9:09If we have a functional offense surrounding him and they throw him the ball and he catches 50 to 60 balls and good God.
9:17If he, if he catches 70 balls, then again, we're talking elite elite because he's one of the most explosive running backs in the league as well.
9:26So that's what I would say to anybody who thinks that I'm crazy for having it.
9:31We're, we're crazy for having breeze where we have.
9:34Yeah. Yeah. You saw him 24, the 76 targets.
9:37And then in 23, obviously the 95 targets was amazing.
9:40And that's, that's where I want to live with breeze.
9:43I know that's not the reality, but just get me to 76.
9:47And like you said, if you're at 76 targets and that goes into 57 receptions back to that 24 season, and we
9:54can get the volume of 220 attempts or so.
9:57He's been running the routes. He runs the most routes of the position.
10:01They just don't throw it to him all the time.
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11:01We got Brees in there. Obviously, Kenny goes into a good spot.
11:05I think Kansas City needed this. I think they needed to change their outlook of how they use the running back.
11:11Kenny's that guy. We love Kenny. Big opponents love the landing spot.
11:15So Kenny's up here. And then Chase Brown, we just talked about.
11:19East Coast Kyron Williams. It is kind of the people have been denying.
11:23A couple of y'all owe me a pie to the face from him not getting replaced last year, which I never saw.
11:30Out there in the Twitterverse, because battled that for a while.
11:34But Chase Brown has earned it. So coming in at RB12 then, we've got Travion Henderson and Quinshawn Judkins coming in at 13.
11:41So I did want to come in and talk about, and that would be a new tier, right?
11:47The Henderson and the Judkins of the world, right?
11:50The site generates it as a new tier, and we would also say that as a new tier as well.
11:56And they've got them in a tier by themselves as far as what the website's putting together as the average.
12:02Quinshawn Judkins. I found this interesting a little bit when we're looking at it.
12:07I'm 10 players higher, maybe some draft picks, like I said on the last show.
12:12When we talk about the overall, the number where we have them, I've got them at 52.
12:17Shev's got them at 62. That means his overall player ranking in the top 225 or whatever.
12:23There's picks in there that skew that around to give value to the picks.
12:27So I do, I think, you know, we really haven't talked about too much Quinshawn Judkins.
12:32So I thought, you know, was putting together an okay season.
12:36Then he got hurt. He was kind of heating up a little bit.
12:40But I feel like you may be like cool to touch on the Judkins a little bit where I think right now
12:47he's one of my bigger buys at the running back position.
12:50So I feel like you went scat pack hot and heavy, which we'll get there in a second.
12:56And I feel like I'm, you know, I want to buy Judkins.
13:00So what's your, you know, was it? It's just why does the, why has the cement aisle, you know, kind of dried up a little bit?
13:08First of all, it's never, it's never dry in the cement aisle.
13:12All right. You just make sure you've got foot coverings when you walk through.
13:17Anyway, before I was so rudely interrupted in the cement aisle, as I, I just, the brown stench has affected me.
13:23And I really, really liked, I really, I really liked what I was seeing from Quinshawn Judkins.
13:29He's proving everything that people said that he couldn't be because of his missed tackles force per attempt or whatever.
13:35And, you know, I, I just really, really, really liked the environment in New York better.
13:40And we can make a year over year bet about who this quarterback's going to be.
13:45They spent the top 10 pick. I know, I know that, you know, Cleveland did what they did and they selected Caleb Lomu or no, they get final.
13:54Anyway, they selected an offensive line, selected an offensive lineman.
13:58And they're trying to rebuild that. I think New York is further along the curve and we've already seen them commit to
14:05throwing the ball to CTE scat pack. So that's the reasoning for my buy.
14:09And plus people think that, I mean, Judkins is already back from his injury and he was participating in OTAs.
14:16They're both kind of in that same area. It's just that I think the ceiling for the environment in New York is higher.
14:23And I think that they're going to be able to consistently score more points.
14:27And so if I'm looking at the next two years, I could be stuck in that Todd Gurley, Jeff Fisher lane, where we know that Judkins is awesome.
14:36But the environment just is so bad that we can't.
14:40And that and at that point, once we hit rock bottom with that, that's when I'll buy because we can get like
14:47another round or two off of his price. But everybody knows how I feel about Judkins.
14:52Every single time I send a trade for Judkins, if somebody knows that I knows who I am and that's, you know,
14:59we're a league or they just ask me about Quinshawn Judkins before then auto reject.
15:04And I can't you just can't you can't get him from the people that have him.
15:09But you can get scat pack. You can get scat pack.
15:12I think you got to, you know, I'm like I said, I'm I'm interested in trying to procure the Quinchon.
15:19So I'll get back to you on what, you know, unfortunately, in the two leagues that we were just drafting in or have been drafting.
15:27I think you own them in one of them.
15:29So I knew that wasn't happening. No, because I think he's got him in that one.
15:35So I knew that also wasn't that. And he will not hear you out.
15:39No, no. So, yeah, I like I like the idea of Judkins, but I was definitely interested of kind of why why
15:46we were 10 spots apart in the overall there.
15:49So Judkins comes in at 13. Then, you know, Kyron Williams comes in at 14.
15:54And you you have really boosted his stock here.
15:57And again, it's sound like a broken record, but we've been a big Kyron pod for forever.
16:02And I'm not anti Kyron by any means, but you've you've got him at 47.
16:07And I've got him at 78. Jeremiah is in the middle at 68 overall.
16:11So this is, you know, definitely you've got your prop and Kyron up in this ranking somewhat here through the three three of us in consensus.
16:20So what's the why why the confidence and I'm confident in Kyron to you just you seem like this to me almost seems like a an over adjust.
16:29And just stick a middle finger up at the people.
16:32That's part of it without having to actually stick my middle finger up and tell people to shut up about this.
16:39But explain to me why Kyron Williams doesn't belong in the same tier with Kenneth Walker and Chase Brown.
16:45Explain it to me like I'm five. Anyone, anyone, anywhere.
16:48Explain it to me like I'm five. Why does he not belong in the tier with Chase Brown and Kenneth Walker?
16:55I think five years old. Right. I think it's a second contract.
16:58Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I think it just I think for the public, it's the same thing as Chase Brown.
17:05It's we want to be right. We were wrong for so long.
17:09Then they gave him the second contract and just ripped people's heart out.
17:13Well, and then we saw Blake come in last year and well, he's more explosive and he does this and he does that.
17:20And it's like, look, they trust Kyron. That's what they do.
17:24And Kyron is going to be their lead dog.
17:27And maybe Blake eats into a little bit more of it.
17:30But I'm with you. And I think I don't I just don't think the consumer confidence is there long term for all
17:37the reasons I just said, you know, there. To start that conversation off with.
17:42So I think that's why I would probably let's let's kind of let's I can tell you where where I have Kyron here in some in some right.
17:5178. Yeah, 78. So I've got him, you know, a bit a good bit lower than than you do.
17:57I've kind of got him in that Barkley tier, which is, you know, no, no, no shade at all.
18:03I think that's I think that's, you know, a little bit more properly rated, obviously, in my opinion there.
18:09The ADP has him at RB 17. So about three spots off and that 68.6.
18:14So if we're just using the ADP there. So, yeah.
18:17If I'm good. No, I think I think I like the I like the attitude and approach here of just saying like, look, he's their guy.
18:25He's going to probably be the 70 percent player out there for them on the field.
18:31And quorum's probably going to be more like a 30 percent player for them out on the field.
18:36You know, I think they want to get Blake a little more involved.
18:40Obviously, the defense just got better. We kind of we kind of mentioned that on on the live show of like, hey,
18:48adding Miles Garrett and shout out to Big D.
18:50And on the Patreon episode that we did after that of just like we've seen this where the defense increases.
18:57And obviously, you know, the Super Bowl odds go up.
19:00But the offense then gets up and then they kind of sit and kind of try to cruise on a lead.
19:07And, you know, obviously, I don't think that'll happen all the time with with McVay and them.
19:12But like there's going to be some preservation mode there.
19:15And I think it just happens naturally when you're in the it's hard for a coach to be because if it goes
19:22the other way and you and the coach F set up by getting too aggressive, then people are like, oh, what are you doing?
19:30Why don't you just, you know, give it to quorum and Kyron.
19:34So there's a world where the attempt numbers in the running game maybe go up because of the defense getting better and in, you know, in a regard.
19:43And we see it a lot when defenses are good, that it does can have an effect on the offensive like a
19:50maybe doesn't reach its highest output because it doesn't need to as far as Stafford chucking it all around.
19:56Yeah, no, I mean, that's that's kind of OK.
19:59So first things first is three to three years straight of double digit Russian touchdowns.
20:04I mean, you could argue all volume. That's not, you know, that's not sustainable.
20:08Hey, we're talking about a team, you know, we're talking about a team that's always in the top half of the league in inside the five attempts.
20:17So that's a year over year over year. If you're going to run the ball and hand the ball to Kyron Williams,
20:24I'll make a bet that he's going to score eight to 10 touchdowns.
20:28And he's been over 10 touchdowns for the last three years.
20:31So I understand that people are that people are saying, oh, like, but again, you've been trying to do this with Blake
20:39Corum for I mean, they were fourth last year in inside the five attempts, 12th and 2024 fourth last year.
20:45So there's no reason whatsoever to believe that Blake Corum's role.
20:48I mean, excuse me, Blake Corum's role is going to grow and Kyron Williams role is going to diminish.
20:55He's 26 years old. He's in, I believe, what, the first year or he's in the first year of his new extension.
21:02So we're tied through 2028, if I'm not mistaken.
21:04And there's no reason to believe Matthew Stafford just re-upped.
21:08So we've got at least one more year, if not two.
21:11He did for two, but they win the Super Bowl this year.
21:15Nobody's expecting him to come back and continue playing.
21:18So you have all of this and he nobody's saying that he's some sort of world beater.
21:23He's not Saquon, prime Saquon Barkley. He's not CMC.
21:26But what he is, is a running back the organization trust.
21:30And they continue to give him the ball. And we're ignoring what's actually happening with football because of some narrative that you
21:37want to follow that has nothing to do with what's happening on the football field and what you want to happen, happen on the football field.
21:45So that's why I have Kyron where I do, because I think that his ceiling, like 21 points a game in his
21:52breakout year in 2023 is as high as anybody else's.
21:55So there's no reason for me to think that there's no reason for me to jump off the train now at 25,
22:02almost 26 years old when I could be getting I could just be profiting for the next few years.
22:08And when he gets to 27, 28, if my team sucks, I sell him to a contender at the trade deadline.
22:15Yeah, I mean, he's never had less than eleven hundred yards.
22:19He's never had less than double digit touchdowns and people, you know, well, he's not efficient.
22:24He's not explosive. He doesn't do this. Blake Corum could do, you know, that's.
22:28And so you got to you got to wade through all that.
22:32But the team tells us something different for the most part.
22:36And they're, like you said, always, always in the higher end of, you know, plays inside the five and the ten because they've got a very good offense.
22:45And, you know, other people could argue, well, if Stafford goes, then what?
22:49Well, they just drafted Simpson and hopefully they have Stafford for another year or two and Simpson can develop and they don't miss a beat.
22:57So, all right. Kyron Williams, RB 14 coming in here at RB 15 in the next tier.
23:02We've got Bucky Irving. We've got Cam Scadabo and we've got Christian McCaffrey inside the automated consensus tiers here.
23:08So, Bucky Irving is I'm the highest on him.
23:11Then Scadabo is one where I'm then the lowest.
23:14You're at 61. I'm at 87. And Christian McCaffrey, we're all kind of right there.
23:19I think we're in it. We obviously, Christian McCaffrey is a buyer beware depending on what situation you're in.
23:25But damn it, he's probably still going to score a whole bunch of fantasy points.
23:30So, you know, you got to put some respect on his name.
23:34I don't know how Barkley and McCaffrey aren't in the same tier in this situation, but I would certainly have them in the same tier.
23:42So, Scadabo, though, is your guy right now. You mentioned him on the when we were talking about Quinchon and you've been all in on him.
23:50And I'm not anti-Scadabo by any means. I think I'm just a little bit more of like, I just want to see it one more time.
23:58I want to see it post-injury. I want to see the new regime.
24:02I want to like, I think they're going to come in and they like Scadabo does fit the personality that I think they want to assume.
24:11Right. Sometimes it feels sometimes for me when things feel so obvious, I have a tendency to be like, well, what am I talking about?
24:19Like, I'm going to talk myself out of this and I'm not going to do that here.
24:24Everything that they've done, we've we've literally gotten dodge bullet after dodge bullet in terms of cam cam CTE, Scadpack, Anglo-Saxon Assassin, Scadabo, the first of his name.
24:33We have gotten every single positive signal that we could get.
24:37And yeah, he was a day three pick, but I don't care about that at this point.
24:42It's we got to see it. It was good.
24:45It was in a less than ideal environment. And they've only upgraded the environment.
24:49Sure. So that's my take when it comes to this.
24:53Mine would, I think I would like, I just, I don't know if I'm going to see, am I going to see
25:0012 to 16 attempts or are we going to be closer to the 20 attempts?
25:04And really for me, it's like, does the passing volume stay kind of like, you know, we're in games where he was
25:11good out, you know, the one, the one game where he put up 31, he scored three touchdowns.
25:17Right. And rushed for almost 100 yards on 19 carries.
25:20Right. But, you know, seven, eight targets, seven targets, six targets.
25:24And those were his, those were the other, you know, where he was an RB one.
25:29And I think that's going to need to continue for him to be at that level.
25:34I don't know if it will. That's another thing where I don't know if it will.
25:39Right. I don't know what Tracy's role in this offense is going to be because I think, you know, I was in
25:46camp Tracy last year and I'm going to go right back to being in like, I think Tracy should have a bigger
25:53role in this offense than just being pushed aside.
25:56I think he's a better receiving back. You know, so I, I, I just wonder how this is going to be schemed
26:03up and how much is, is Scadabo truly going to come in here and be the workhorse?
26:09And I'll, I'm going to take the same approach of it and of like, I'll, I'll be wrong and overpay for Scadabo in the next season.
26:17If you're going to give him to me in, in kind of where I have him ranked, I'll take him all day long.
26:24It's not any, I'm not, I guess I'm not in, I'm not interested in overdrafting Scadabo, which you seem very fine with.
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27:25See homekeeper.com slash price match for details. I'm buying the environment.
27:28I'm buying, I'm buying what I, what I saw from him, from a performance perspective.
27:33And, you know, sometimes, sometimes like to me, yeah, I could be, you can get Damian pierced when you, when you buy
27:40into a situation like this, but I've seen him.
27:43I mean, he had the pass game, the pass catching utility.
27:47He's clearly got chemistry of Jackson Dart. This is going to be a fun one that it's going to be hard because
27:54he's already a fan favorite to keep off of the field.
27:57And when you have him on the field, he performs really well.
28:01So he's making it really hard for you to take him off the field.
28:06So. So I look at what weeks two through eight were, I mean, he was third and missed tackles for 14.
28:12I'd said all this stuff on the Patreon when we talked about it, me and big D kind of went back and forth about it.
28:20But I think that this is where they're going to, this is where they're going to plant their flag.
28:26And I could be wrong. And if I am wrong and we get to the training camp and it's more of a
28:33split and all that, it's going to suck because I planted my flag here.
28:38But I just think that once we're out, you know, once we're out, once we're playing football, he just plays football with
28:45a different type of ability and willingness to be violent.
28:48That kind of changes the math on some things.
28:51Yeah, I agree with that part for sure. And I didn't want to just bypass over Bucky real quick that he's at RB 15.
28:59I'm sure people probably think that's too high for him and he's got the injury too.
29:04I do have him a little bit higher. I believe in, in, in Bucky Irving.
29:09Now, if he comes out here and doesn't practice all, all off season, then I'm going to probably have to drop him down.
29:16But I would still be bent by like if I'm dry, if I'm, if I haven't quite dropped them down as low
29:23as everybody else, but if he's doesn't play for the entire off season or whatever, because of this shoulder, then I'd just
29:30be buying again on Bucky because I just, I believe in the talent.
29:34I, what I saw out there was great. You know, even, even through stretches of last year, he was good playing through something.
29:41So I'm, I've, I'm the one propping Bucky up there.
29:45So I'll take the bullets on Bucky there. I, you know, I, I, I've, I've truly, and really do believe in, in what Bucky is.
29:53We just got to get them right and back on the field.
29:57I think he's going to be a big part of what, what Tampa does.
30:01So then I feel like gain well is kind of their, their fail safe there that, Hey, if, if, if we got
30:08a Bucky problem, we can, we can slide game well in here.
30:12Now they gave game well, some okay money. So I do think we'll have a role, but I think this is the Bucky show.
30:20If he's the guy, if Bucky's healthy or if he's healthy.
30:23Yeah. If Bucky's healthy, then there's no question about this.
30:26There's just the question about, Hey, what's the, what's the truth.
30:30And I think we forget that towards the beginning of the last, the beginning of last season, the Bucks were injured on the offensive line.
30:38Tristan worse. Missed some time. Their center, his name is Graham Barton.
30:42I really like him. He missed some time. The right tackle get a key.
30:46I believe it. So they were kind of patchwork to begin the season.
30:50Baker was banged up down the drain. Yes. And then Bucky gets hurt as they're getting healthy.
30:56And then Baker gets hurt as the offensive line kind of gels and everything fell off a cliff.
31:01So I think he's going to be one of the most, I think he's going to be one of the most proficient
31:09passing down or excuse me, pass catching running backs, not passing down.
31:12It sounds so stupid to say, but he, he's going to be one of the most proficient pass catching running backs.
31:19We've seen that be really good with a shot.
31:22Why? We saw it be really good with Bucky.
31:25Basically, you know, you had 30, 35 targets, 30 receptions at five targets in the end zone.
31:30Even though he didn't have any carries inside of the five last year.
31:34So he kind of offsets the lack of running game, but we've seen him be efficient on the ground too.
31:41So I like that, but also what he's priced where he's priced for me because unlike Kyron Williams, we don't have any long-term security.
31:49We do have an offensive coordinator. We do have the questions about injury and what his role could be in terms of
31:56touching the ball in the red zone and green zone.
31:59If they're, if we're not throwing it to him.
32:02So that's why I have Bucky where I have him and I'd be willing to be wrong.
32:07I think if you are team Bucky, there are buying opportunities that you need to be taking advantage of.
32:13This is one of probably the biggest buys. If you're a team Bucky, this is one of the best periods of time
32:20to buy Bucky Irving because you're going to flirt with an early second.
32:24For some people to get rid of Bucky because there's so much nervous.
32:29I'm hell. I'm the one spreading like anti-Bucky propaganda.
32:31Right. And I'm saying like, yeah, still you could, if you believe you think I'm wrong, just go buy Bucky Irving.
32:38I fully acknowledge, like, there's no part of me that says like, I'm 100% right.
32:43And this, but if you think I'm wrong, go buy Bucky Irving.
32:47That's cool. Do that. Yeah. I'm not saying that I'm not saying he's not good.
32:52I'm just saying that these are the questions that I have and that's what led to my rank.
32:57Absolutely. No, I'm with it. I'm with it. All right.
33:01So just to recap, Bucky was at RB 15, Scadabo at RB 16.
33:05Then we had McCaffrey at RB 17. And then coming in would be Saquon Barkley at RB 18.
33:10I put Christian McCaffrey and Barkley kind of in the same tier.
33:14Again, the consensus averages have them split, but I don't, I don't really know why.
33:19Um, then comes Javante Williams at 19 and then Jadarian Price rounding out 20.
33:24And then I did want to touch on, uh, Travis ETN coming in at 21 real quick.
33:29Uh, but I do want to double back to Javante Williams because we're about 10 spots apart on that one.
33:35Um, I'm at 83 or at 71. Um, and I was going to, I started looking into a pre-show and I was
33:42going to change the ranking, but I wanted to leave it on, on, you know, for the show so we could talk about it.
33:50And I think, I think I've got him mispriced.
33:53I think Javante Williams should probably be up with, with like the Scadabos of the world, uh, where, where we just talked about him.
34:01There's no reason not to. And I would rather have Javante than Scadabo.
34:05So I wouldn't go that far, but what I would do is say that I think Javante has proven that he's back
34:12to being pre-injury Javante, that I was completely, look, I'm holding a bag.
34:16I was holding a bag on so many Javante shares that I thought were absolutely dead in the water going into last
34:23year to the point where I was telling people, Hey man, I don't think Javante is the guy.
34:29And he went out and he proved us completely wrong.
34:32So now we've got to completely change the outlook back to, Hey, Javante is tied to one of the best offenses in
34:39the NFL with just most stable environments. The team thought enough of them to give him multi-year security after signing the one year deal.
34:47He's got a three year, 24 million, 22, 24, whatever, but he's tied to the team.
34:52He's tied to Dak Prescott. He's tied to this offensive line.
34:55He's tied in this environment with Clayton Adams. I really like Clayton Adams, who I've talked about before.
35:01He's kind of the guy that brought this running game back to life after Rico Dattle sort of did his thing at the end of 2024.
35:09But point being Javante Williams is 26 years old.
35:12And I don't think that there's anything that tells us outside of him, you know, injury, which we can't predict that makes
35:19us think that he's going to fall off a cliff in 2026.
35:23He's, I mean, he's, who's he competing for touches with Alfred?
35:27I mean, Jaden blue. Yeah. Phil Moffitt. Hey, shout out to J.
35:31Wayne and Clemson, but that's not, that's not happening.
35:33Malik Davis. I mean, it's a fun stash based on the way that they use their, they like their running backs with
35:40James Connor and Javante and Phil Moffitt kind of fits that mold a lot more than Jaden, Jaden blue does, but there's nothing threatening him.
35:48They didn't have anybody of note in the draft.
35:51So that's why, why wouldn't you? When I went and reexamined it just because, you know, I wanted to make sure that,
35:58but then I was just like, and, and he, you know, the thing is, is like back half of the season 13
36:05through, you know, you really didn't have very many RB one.
36:09And you had one in week 13, but then it was RB 18, RB 15, RB 45 in one game where he only touched it nine times.
36:18And then RB 19 to finish the season. So, but much stronger start.
36:22And obviously, you know, there was, he scored 11 touchdowns, but like, again, like he, he should be doing that again.
36:28That offense kind of started breaking down and falling apart a little bit.
36:33Um, so I think kind of moving forward, like if we're going to keep the targets at 51 ish, which I don't
36:40know why they wouldn't, if we're going to teach, keep the red zone touches up and keep the TDs in double digits.
36:47Like there's no reason this guy's not going to rush for a thousand yards.
36:51He had 252 attempts. Like, why should he have that many less attempts going into next year?
36:57Who's the company? It's it's Malik Davis. It's Jaden blue.
37:00Like you just mentioned, like they didn't do anything like that.
37:03The Cowboys have been operating after the Zeke thing in a, we're, we're, we're going to, we're taking the cheaper route on
37:10running backs here for a little while. Um, they were kind of the last one off the cliff of the RBs don't matter thing.
37:18And now the RBs are coming back. So they went and they did that.
37:23This was a very good move by Dallas. So signing him for a year and then re-upping him for another two or three years for relatively inexpensive.
37:31It's not, you know, it's not crazy money, but it's, it's competitive.
37:35$2 million a year more than Tyler Auger does.
37:38Right. So good move by them. And I just, I just feel like I'm, I'm too low.
37:43So I think I should, I should be moving him up.
37:47I think we should, you should feel really good about your Javante stocks.
37:51A nice buy. I think if you're a competitor, a young 26 to like, he's not like 26.9, he's 26.1.
37:57Right. So we're, we're at a good, and I think, you know, we're seeing the, the better running backs in the league.
38:04I'm not saying Javante is there on the elite level of running backs yet, but we're seeing that, like we mentioned with
38:12the wide receivers and the elite play, like we're seeing that bell curve kind of shift a little bit to being, you
38:19know, good seasons in 28, 29, 30 elite seasons.
38:21So I think we could see that Janarian price then coming in at 20, which kind of shocked me, but we're all
38:28at 84 across the board on them on overall.
38:31Exactly. And then ETN is the one last guy I wanted to hit on here.
38:36Pause. So you're at, you're at 85. I'm at 88.
38:39Jeremiah's at 79 with him. He's interesting, right? Cause you know, there's a little bit of Kamara flashbacks happening now.
38:46It seemed like they brought him in. They paid him.
38:49Kellen Moore wanted to have a running back. He could count on the scheme that they run as far as for the
38:56running back fits what Travis ETN wants to do.
38:59I think this often, like just said, we just talked about with Tyson and Olave on the receiver side.
39:05Like, this is what I want. I want an OC who's calls the head is the head coach who calls the plays, who designs everything that they're doing.
39:14Um, and I think you might've solved your quarterback.
39:17I don't know. And you're, you're, you're coming out of the muck in the mire from so long of the saints, from
39:24the drew breeze era of just kicking everything down the road.
39:27Uh, and they had to pay the piper here and I think they're going to come out of it.
39:33Um, and I think they've got a nice nucleus to do so.
39:37And, you know, I guess the question is, is like, how does Alvin Kamara play into this backfield?
39:43And, and it was something that I was very confident in, you know, as far as ETN being a guy that I absolutely wanted.
39:51I know I was very confident in him last year.
39:54Um, but I've started to, uh, have a little bit of doubt if Alvin Kamara is going to be in here in
40:01the mix in this, in this year. And should I be, what are you, where, where, where, how are we finishing up these rankings with ETN?
40:09And, and just a general thought process exercise here.
40:12You've got to, you've got to kind of resign yourself to a floor outcome for 2026.
40:17If Alvin Kamara is going to be involved, if they don't, if they're not working on something to get him traded or,
40:24you know, a buyout to make this, you know, make this travesty team's backfield.
40:29And that's just kind of wish casting because Alvin Kamara is still a really good football player.
40:34So it's going to be really hard. It's going to be really hard for them to, unless they just say, Hey, we
40:41need to be done because this is creating some sort of distraction, which I mean, that's never been Alvin, Alvin Kamara's MO.
40:48So you could be stripping, stripping Travis ETN of valuable touches, but not limiting, you know, if he's going to handle 65
40:55to 70% of the carries, you're just not getting the receptions that Alvin Kamara is going to be.
41:01You know, taking it. So that lowers, that lowers his floor a little bit, but he's still going to be explosive.
41:08This is going to be one of the fastest paced offenses in the league.
41:12So maybe you're looking at more RB 16, RB 22 as a finish, which would feel really disappointing, but then you move
41:19on to the next year and he's, you know, he's out of the way.
41:24So you could get back to the RB 12, you know, RB 12 to RB eight finishes where his ceiling is.
41:31So, and you know, he's tied to this offense.
41:33We like Tyler Shuck a lot. We like Kellen Moore.
41:37This environment is what you're, what you're buying into, because if, you know, you're telling me that at 27, he's not going
41:44to be able to catch passes of Alvin Kamara's there.
41:47Then we're limiting ourselves to a very, very, you know, limited ceiling from a fantasy perspective, because he's not involved in the pass game at all.
41:55Right. And you don't, you don't necessarily think of Travis ETN as a pass catching running back, but I mean, throughout his
42:02career, it's been 45 targets, 73, 52, 52 targets, 36, 39, 58, 35 receptions.
42:07Right. And last year he caught six touchdown passes.
42:10You know, so that's just, that's a part of the game that he's, he's not, he's not somebody you think of as
42:17an elite receiving back, but it's certainly not a deficiency.
42:20Like he's had some drops throughout his career for sure.
42:23But like, I thought he was good in the passing game for the most part last year.
42:28He kind of knows where to be. And like, so I think the outcome, like you said, is, is if Kamara sticks
42:35around and does take some stuff from him, it's, it's probably limiting the upside.
42:40But I mean, right now we're pricing him at RB 21 in the rankings.
42:44Right. So, you know, that, that, that's okay. But, you know, he's like a seventh, eighth round pick right now.
42:51And I'm, I'm still okay with clicking the box there.
42:54You might not get all of the upside if Kamara is there.
42:58Right. Yes. That's the, that's the one thing that we can, we can bank on is that if Kamara is there, then
43:05we're not, we're not getting a, a 2025 redo from Travis Etienne.
43:09Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap this one up again.
43:12Shock that your Darian price was RB 20 for us in the consensus, but we were all in lockstep.
43:18So, Hey, can't fight it. So anyway, appreciate you guys tuning in.
43:22We'll hit the rankings, you know, once a month ish for your pleasure.
43:26We'll do the consensus stuff. I think it's a good way to go, go about this so that we're all not saying,
43:33well, this is my tier and this is my tier.
43:36And these are my rankings and it gets rather confusing for the listener.
43:40So coming through with the consensus here, like I said, everything on the FF dynasty.com is over there with overall rankings and
43:47all these guys broken into tears with the top 225 players.
43:51So you can come over there and check that out if you want.
43:55If you're screaming in the comments about why aren't these guys tiered?
43:59It's like, well, they are kind of tiered, but I think tiers are very important.
44:04But when we talk about it consensus wise, it's, it's a little more difficult to tear them up exactly like we would all have them.
44:12So anyway, we appreciate you guys tuning in. I'm Casey.
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