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0:25Today we are going to do another High Stakes NFFC Live Fantasy Football Draft so stay here, stick around, see you on
0:32the other side Alright Jeremiah, we are live and you know what is the craziest thing?
0:37I thought this was a draft at 8 o'clock.
0:40This draft starts at 8.20 Okay, I thought you were going to drop 9 on me and I just keel over and
0:47just be a boomer We are going to need to kill 20 minutes worth of time right now Yeah we can absolutely
0:54do that You think we can do that? Absolutely, absolutely Well let's talk Pete, before we get into tonight's draft, let's talk
1:01about last week where at the wraparound we had Team 11 On the wraparound second round pick early at the 2-2 I
1:08go Emeka Abuka Pete, today we get that news that Emeka Abuka Was it a toe injury that finally came out?
1:15There was concern about a high ankle sprain What's your level of concern?
1:19Me personally, I'm not so worried but I'd like to hear your thoughts because I want to poke through my biases I
1:27got a lot of love for Emeka Abuka And just to sort out any level of worry for you Yeah, and before
1:34we do that I just want to say hit that thumbs up, hit the like button and subscribe if you're not already
1:41We see seven people here on YouTube, we see some guys here on Twitter, we got King, we got Justin in the
1:48house as well Ask any questions that you have, you guys got us for 20 minutes before the draft starts And then
1:55once the draft starts, we'll continue to answer questions But we'll also kind of do our normal thing given the analysis and
2:02so on and so forth So we'll get into that, keep loading up the questions, I see Kyle, I see Justin Keep
2:09asking those questions, we'll get back, get to those in one second To answer Jeremiah's question about Emeka Abuka So yeah, Abuka
2:16or Emeka Abuka Left practice today with a lower body injury He was kind of rolled up on it, sounds like on
2:23some sort of maybe jet sweep Or some end around And it sounds like it was a toe injury At first it
2:30was nerve wracking because people thought maybe high ankle sprain And if you're talking high ankle sprain, we're talking four to six
2:38weeks And then we're bleeding into like the first two, three weeks of the season Thankfully not that But a little bit
2:45of concern that it could be like a turf toe If it is a turf toe, that's one of those nagging injuries,
2:52Jeremiah That like typically just doesn't get better unless you just rest it Not as bad as a high ankle sprain I
2:59would expect him even if he has turf toe to come back And be ready for week one But he could miss
3:06some time here in camp But I'd much rather it be that than the high ankle sprain In the meantime, you're going
3:13to get some hype for people like Ted Hurst Jaylen McMillan, Chris Godwin I was talking about him last night on another
3:20show He's ready to crush Pete right out of the slot He garners something like a 33% target rate out of the
3:27slot Versus 21% when he's out wide So another player that you may want to click on tonight would be Chris Godwin
3:34He's presented a lot of value Now Pete, for the draft tonight What's the slot?
3:39In the last two drafts that we've had We've been able to go at the 111 Is there something different?
3:46Something changed? I know we have derby style And we have the third round reversal to account for So where did we end up?
3:53Yeah, so we got the 10 spot Which is pretty much the same I mean, not much of a difference I do
4:01prefer to be in the I do prefer to be like If I'm going to be in the back I'd rather be
4:08really in the back So I get closer to the turn at that point But it's nice with the third round reversal
4:15Let's grab some of these questions here really quick And then we can talk a little bit more news And then continue
4:22to send in your questions Before we kick off this draft Justin said What are we thinking about Malik Neighbors, guys?
4:29Yeah, I'll take this one first here Malik Neighbors You know, the reports with him Is that, you know, he's likely to
4:36join team drills soon Coach Harbaugh said on Wednesday That they're going to mix him into team drills As early as next
4:43week So that's a positive sign Also, also Hold on, hold on, hold on So the draft actually started So we'll get
4:50to these questions I swear it's at 23 minutes And then the clock just randomly just shifted to the draft starting So
4:57I'm about to be on the clock So we'll get to Neighbors in just a second We'll get to Neighbors in a
5:04second Let me, let me Oh, geez I was not expecting that Yeah, we'll cover him We'll cover Malik Neighbors once he
5:11gets drafted At the 110, Pete ADP-wise, it would be somebody like James Cook I know we've come away with him before
5:18So in the queue for you Are you on the clock yet?
5:22Yeah, I am And I like what typically comes to us On the 2-3 turn Because it's third round reversal So I'm
5:29going to take James Cook off the bat here And then see what wide receivers come to me I also do want
5:36to get this to the draft board I'm trying to remember how do we I think it's the roster grid right here
5:44Yeah, here we go And while you're sorting that out, Pete Maybe there could be some leeway and lean towards Malik Neighbors
5:51in round two I think he's worthy of a round two pick Because to me, Malik Neighbors is a round one player
5:58We'll see if he comes back to you People will go and snipe and get their guy immediately And then we've heard
6:05a lot about the Buffalo Bills incorporating more of the pass game For James Cook And I think that would just vault
6:12him up so much Because what would be the pop in the balloon for somebody like James Cook?
6:18It would be, hey, you don't hit your touchdown metrics You don't hit the yardage like you should Almost like a player
6:25in a standard league Because if you're not getting the PPR, the receptions That efficiency, if it dips at all It really
6:32hurts you and then you plummet I mean, we've seen somebody like Kyron Williams go from 21 to 17 to 15 fantasy
6:39points per game The last three seasons So if there's any kind of chipping away That can really tank somebody's value like
6:46James Cook Granted, Cook runs pure on touchdowns The yardage, the RPO lanes that are there with Josh Allen But to hear
6:53this extra goodness And this is a PPR format in which we're drafting, Pete How high are you on James Cook in
7:00the event that he's more of a PPR player In the reception game Would you take, and there goes Malik Nabors Oh,
7:08we got him, cool, and we'll talk about him Do you go James Cook if you were assured 40 to 50 receptions
7:15Over somebody like Jonathan Taylor Or do you still keep Jonathan Taylor ahead of James Cook Because JT already has some reception
7:22tools in his bag Yeah, I'm high on Cook this year The drumbeat for him has been nice in terms of just
7:29You know, there was talk about the system And, you know, could we see more passing work?
7:34You know, Alec Braski of Sports Illustrated Did report that anytime you can get the ball in Cook's hands You got obviously
7:41a chance for a big play Is what Carmichael said on Monday And they talked about how they see value In not
7:49just the run game, but the pass game as well And Carmichael is somebody who we've seen You know, get the ball
7:56in his running back's hands In space in the passing game So I think we can expect that for James Cook I
8:03have James Cook and Jonathan Taylor Like neck and neck right now JT at eight, Cook at nine I'm totally fine getting
8:10exposure to both guys I will say I have clicked Cook more than I have Taylor Even though I have Taylor one
8:17spot ahead of Cook So, you know, it's rather close I did start off here James Cook, Malik Neighbors So let's talk
8:24Let's just talk Malik Neighbors At least for a second here And then we'll go back And we'll answer some of these
8:31questions As it snakes back to us here But with Neighbors Like I have Neighbors And I just took him at the
8:38third spot In the second round But I have Malik Neighbors Ranked as my 11th ranked player right now in fantasy I
8:45have him as a 1-2 guy I'm looking at it as Look, Neighbors may start the season off a little bit slow
8:52Just because he might not be 100% healthy But the reports seem really good He looks healthy He looks like he's running
9:00around well And I'm thinking I'm thinking second half of the season That stretch I'm excited to, you know To get him
9:07back for that When he starts to kind of rev up And get, you know, 100% So you could wait on Neighbors
9:14You know, that's totally fine And I'll mix in a little bit of Neighbors and AJ Brown And I know this feels
9:21like a high pick To take Neighbors But ultimately for me Like I don't mind taking that upside swing And you're looking
9:28for differentiation And Cook and Neighbors Are a little bit of a different build to start So I feel pretty confident in
9:35Neighbors Let's grab, Jay Some of these questions You can answer this one here from Kyle He said, how do we like Week 17 Mendoza and Beck stack?
9:44So I guess Arizona versus the Raiders Week 17 here He's asking if we like that stack between those guys I don't know, Jay What do you think?
9:53It's going to be low owned, low rostered You're going to be ahead of the field It's a back end, late round
10:00pick In the event that somebody like a Beck hits You are varied versus the field And then of course you have
10:07Fernando Mendoza Who, look, if their bye week is Week 13 They have a 5.5 over under win total The Raiders I'm
10:14sitting there thinking it could be midseason When Mendoza starts playing But then towards the back half Nearer to the bye We
10:22may end up seeing the first start For somebody like Fernando Mendoza I lean towards Mendoza starting earlier than later Then again,
10:29let's look at that Week 17 matchup Against the Cardinals I know the Cardinals are the lowest Vegas is pricing the lowest
10:36totals Depending on what sportsbook you have Cardinals are a bottom 5 Maybe even bottom 1 offense Depending on what book you're
10:43looking at For points per game But that environment for Week 17 is tremendous The weather's going to be perfect It's going
10:50to be in the Dome at least Or some kind of good weather there And they should let it fly And by
10:57then, we're thinking maybe Jeremiah Love and Ashton Janty Should be competing, dueling back and forth Just throwing the names out Brock
11:04Bowers, Michael Wilson, Trey McBride There's so many, I mean, running back battles Tight end battles That's going to be a phenomenal
11:11game It'll be interesting to see If we get Carson Beck on the other side To Fernando Mendoza So, like where your
11:18head's at It's a very contrarian, low-rostered play And in the event that you advance That's going to be a low-rostered stack
11:26Versus, okay, what's the most common, Pete? Drake May and A.J.
11:29Brown? Yeah, Drake May and A.J. Brown Is a fun stack I'm kind of with you in that Like, that's not If
11:36you're looking for uniqueness I think it's fine to go take a Mendoza back stack It's going to be really cheap There
11:43are going to be two players that Like you said, low-owned So it's interesting And you feel like it's a garbage time
11:50game There could be some big points Two really bad defenses at the end of the year So, I think that's fine
11:57I do want to highlight Before we get to the next question here I take Josh Allen I typically don't draft quarterbacks
12:05this high, Jay But, you know, I think I don't really have much exposure to Allen I like D.J.
12:11Moore a lot So I wouldn't mind grabbing him on the turn Coming back to us If he makes it back to
12:18us on that stack But I like just grabbing Allen His pieces are cheap I have Cook So I get some stack
12:25there And ultimately, in these big tournaments Like, you need those elite quarterbacks If you really want to win the big money, right?
12:32You can get away with, you know, winning your league You know, with maybe not the top five quarterbacks, right?
12:39You can get away with it, but in a big tournament Like, you need those guys to hit So I don't mind
12:46taking a chance Not really taking a chance But taking Allen here at this spot So that was kind of my kind
12:53of thought You know, that was kind of my thought there And I could still grab, like, Jackson Dart Later on to
13:00pair with neighbors Yeah, early informs middle And middle informs late in these drafts It's almost like reading a story And the
13:07book unfolds And you can kind of see the scenarios That will play out You have the Week 8 Giants bye week
13:14The Bills 7 So there wouldn't be a competition Between Allen and Dart In the fact that you would need the bye
13:21week You have bye week coverage, essentially And we just talked about the pass game narrative One of the coolest things This
13:29happens in DFS It's a principle that'll work Is, hey, if you have the running back And the quarterback You're accounting for
13:36all the team's points In theory that they score Because the connection of handing the ball off There's a touchdown there Accounted
13:43for Then, of course, the passing You've got the quarterback But then when it really hits And you connect quarterback to running
13:50back For a receiving touchdown You're just blowing up So that, we talked about Stack share of Mendoza and back AJ Brown,
13:57Drake May That would be, for such an expensive piece On the team Two players on the team This would be somewhat
14:04I'd be interested I think this would be A medium level of You know, variance As far as versus a field You
14:11have a little bit of differentiation And the cool thing is Whether you get Dart or not Hey, it remains to be
14:18seen Everybody has the same board You have players that set up Who your stack partners could be The cool thing that
14:25you opened up You mentioned DJ Moore But I also like the fact that Pete, if you do miss DJ Moore You
14:32could go in And get some Dalton Kincaid much later Then what if Dalton Kincaid Is a primary pass catcher in Buffalo
14:40Any thought to Because I've talked to you before About Brenton Strange And Parker Washington Where, hey Brenton Strange might hit A
14:47little bit more Than we like for Parker Washington Do we see any angle Where Dalton Kincaid Could hit a little bit
14:54more Versus DJ Moore At the expense of him?
14:57Yeah, for DJ I don't see it as much Just because I think Shakir Is really the one That gets eaten up
15:04More than I would for DJ I think DJ can play A little bit more On the outside You know In that
15:11more flanker Z kind of role He's not going to really be that X It's going to be Keon Coleman It's just
15:18going to be The sacrificial guy all year I do want to also mention Chicago and the Bills Play week one Of
15:25week 15 Now in this scenario We're talking Accumulating points, right?
15:29So, you know At that point It's not really like Pods in You know Best ball For some other Places where you'll
15:36draft Where it's like Hey, I got to Score high To move to the next round But Interesting that You know They
15:43get Chicago DJ Moore Going to be playing Against his old team It's going to be Against a really poor defense So
15:50that'll be fun To see week 15 And they also get Miami week 17 They do get Denver week 16 As well
15:57Which is a tough defense But I'm sure Josh Allen and them Are looking for some payback After that tough loss In
16:04the playoffs Jay But Let's transition To some more questions here Keep sending them in guys Justin said I just traded for
16:11Jaden Daniels In Dynasty How do we feel about him This year and beyond This is a pretty Important year For Jaden
16:18Daniels In my opinion Jay I really, really Want to see him Stay healthy I really, really Want to see what This
16:25offense looks like You know With Somewhat of that We think Ben Johnson Esque Kind of scheme Which is really Kind of
16:33A mixture Of a couple Of different schemes As well But ultimately That's going to be Big Can Jaden Daniels Stay on
16:40the field He hasn't really Proven to us In the first Two years Of his career That he can Stay healthy Jay
16:47And while the Upside and the Ceiling is there It could be Kind of one of Those things Where it's like Hey
16:54Is he kind of In that Joe Burrow Which Like Spot Where Because he Can't stay Healthy And on the Field So
17:01I think It's an Important year Also interesting To see how They utilize Him You know And how They go about Deploying
17:08him As a runner Versus years Past Well recall Coming in To the NFL There was all The hype Of what Jane
17:15Daniels Did at LSU With the VR Video glasses Where he would Yeah Really cool Simulation plays And we've seen How lethal
17:22he is As a passer My only pushback Frustration Is my god Lift a damn Weight Every time I see Jane Daniels
17:29His upper body Especially It's just so Just He needs to lift Just some weight I just need to know What is
17:37he doing At all In the weight room You just need a little Bit of something Because he will Just be Sometimes
17:44like a Toothpick Where He just gets hurt So easily Like on the Comebacker For the interception He threw The fact that
17:51he got Hurt on that play Running back He didn't quite Protect himself The Vikings defender Got him Like I just thought
17:58Like damn That's all it took So it can be Compounding too This league is cruel If you get one injury It
18:05pushes And We need Jane Daniels At full capacity So there's A decent worry For his frame size That I'd like to
18:12see him Do better at We hear about Jackson Dart Needs to slide more JD5 Needs to be able To just take
18:19Some of these hits Or avoid them And I would like To see him Get into the weight room But right now
18:26He doesn't look like that So we're hoping That he just goes back To the lethalness It really does help Though That
18:33he has Somebody like A Stefan Diggs Antonio Williams Is a layer Draft pick Good for the build And then you get
18:40A supporting Former teammate From college In Rashad White Hopefully he'll show Good in the pass game For him Be another utility
18:48Dump off option Year two A matriculation For Ja'Cory Crosskey Merit We want that So yes I'm high on JD5 I would
18:55still buy Still like him But those are just My little critiques But I see As you said Pete Pivotal year three
19:02JD5 Puts it together And love this pick As we're talking You finish the stack With DJ Moore He probably doesn't Come
19:09back to you And then He might He might have I mean We still have to Come back After your Yeah Yeah
19:16I wasn't gonna get him So I just said You know what Because The wide receivers Luther's still there Terry Jamo Devante
19:23Mike Evans Rome He's going Kind of like that Rome Evans area In ADP So I wasn't Gonna get him On the
19:30way back It probably Wasn't gonna happen The next pick Is interesting though Jay Because You know I don't really Have much
19:37exposure To Luther Burden To be honest With you And I have Not that I've Stayed away I just haven't Been nearly
19:44as high I do prefer Typically going For Rome There There's some Interesting people On the board Here There's There's Running backs
19:51And this room Is really thinning out There's not a lot Of running backs Left I do like Some of these guys
19:59Past Cook Should I I mean It's either It's a three wide Receiver start Right So do we go Anchor running back
20:06And just kind of Let it Let it fly We did take a Luxury pick With quarterbacks So I still feel Like
20:13we have to Continue at the At the wide receiver Spot What are your Thoughts here With these guys That are on
20:20the board I love Jameson Williams For what he could End up becoming If you were to get The matriculation up Because
20:27we're talking About 90 to 100 Targets the last Two seasons Respectively for Jameson Williams George Pickens Had something like 90 to
20:34100 Targets Back to back Seasons I think it was Like 100 And 106 And then he had An 1100 Receiving yard
20:41Season And a 1000 Yard receiving Season And then we Saw 1400 Receiving yard Season From George Pickens Last year Where he
20:48got 137 targets So my theory My play My thought Is that Jameson Williams Can get you Up to that George Pickens
20:55Level And he's priced Right now To where You gotta click Him now Because next year He's gonna be Much more expensive
21:03In that Lions Offense But I like What you did With Terry McLaurin I know I took Terry I took Terry I
21:10was running Out of time There I had like Five seconds And you were Going through And I thought About going J-Mo
21:17And I looked At my rankings And I just Saw I have Terry ranked At 20 And to have A chance Of
21:24getting Him still You know I have J-Mo Ranked at 28 But that's Not best Ball rankings It's just Overall J-Mo should
21:31be Ranked a little Bit higher In best Ball Just because Like he had Like I think Eight weeks Under 10 Points
21:38last Year But the Spikes are Just so High For him And then You also Open up It's another Vane Another Artery
21:45To JD5 As we Talked about A moment Ago Now the Whole board Yes you can All who are Listening Go and
21:52Select him And that's Fine We make Moves For moves The one Correlation Conflict Would be The commanders And the Bills Have
21:59a Week 7 Bye But we Have to Get there When it Presents Itself And then Also Last week Pete We took
22:06Baker Mayfield Kyler Murray And then We took Some upside Stabs At QB3 Mac Jones And Jalen Milrow So going Into the
22:14Season Two Guaranteed Starters In last Week's Draft This Week's Draft If you Were to Have the Competing Bye Weeks You would
22:21Certainly Need a Third Quarterback Are you Of the Mind That we May come Away With Three Quarterbacks I know It's Early
22:28Now Do you Think This Ends Up Being A Three Quarterback Build Or do You Rely If There's No Bye Week Competition
22:35Do you Just Lean Into It's Josh Allen It All Depends On How The Board Falls It's Tough When You Take A
22:42Quarterback This High Because Like I Said It Is A Luxury Pick Sometimes And You Start To Play Catch Up I While
22:49Running So I Just Look At It Like I Just I Had To Go That Way As For The Quarterback Like It's
22:56Like I'm Going To Draft The Second Quarterback At Some Point But It's Gonna Be It's Not To Be For A While
23:03And I Thought About JMO In My Head I Said To Myself I I Really about it but i was like i
23:10was like it just feels like i'm forcing too much not forcing because i don't like the stack but i was just
23:17like i said i just go back to that like i probably can't draft a quarterback that early and i'm like and
23:25i do have terry ranked higher so that that was why i deferred and went that way when it comes to the
23:32bye weeks i don't start worrying about bye weeks until we get to like round 10 like i like i just draft
23:39the for my stacks and for the the players i like the most and then i start to figure out stuff later
23:46on you know i don't want too many issues too many problems to have to try to solve later on i get
23:53that but um to me it's like best ball is best ball it's not managed redraft where i have to find somebody
24:00and put them in my lineup when we're drafting a 30 round best ball it allows us to just be like okay
24:07well we're gonna just get guys that are gonna slot in for those bye weeks that are that are we just need
24:14a spike week here and there from one of these guys um so we just gotta we just gotta position ourselves well
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28:16and uh yeah gotta say it's uh it's shaping up to be interesting sam laporta does just go and laporta is a
28:23guy that i wanted but i'm i'm okay not getting him i do want to talk about a really mispriced player uh
28:30once i take this next pick here um some of these wide receivers sticking out marvin harrison jr btj courtland sutton alec
28:37pierce this is a range of wide receivers i just don't really care for what i will say is uh trevin henderson
28:44comes back to me jay which really really really uh surprised by that i mean his adp is 50 and he falls
28:51to pick 70 i know there was some ramondre stevenson hype a little bit on the timeline today in the joint practices
28:58he made some plays and looked really good but uh not really sure why trevin henderson falling to pick 70 behind guys
29:06like jaylen warren um you know bucky irving jodera and price i know there's some risk there with trevion because ramondre is
29:13a really good player jay but in a best ball format we're talking upside we're talking ceiling uh to get trevin henderson
29:20uh in round six late round six is just not what i was expecting especially when i took a luxury pick with
29:27josh allen and i consider taking him when i took terry mcclorn which was you know over 12 picks ago uh so
29:34surprising to me that's one of the best feelings when you have a few players in mind you take one and you
29:41think you're going to lose the other by the time it comes back to you and then they fall that happened to
29:48me last week where i was interested in conception and i think he went two rounds after we were considering him pete
29:55but the stimulus for trevion henderson falling is we're getting a little bit of buzz that he's still struggling with some pass
30:02protection in training camp so that carries enough weight because it brings people back to the memory of he couldn't get on
30:10the field and bust through and then you had i think it was like a 25 to 3 carry share in that
30:17denver broncos game where ramondre stevenson just dominated touches and that sticks with people and if that murmur comes back up it's
30:24going to depress the price and the beauty is you're in round five with trevion henderson it's like a sean michael super
30:31kick pick because if he ends up hitting his ceiling he's up in the range where jameer gives and b john robinson
30:38are next year because it's the jameer gives kind of skill set that we love for trevion henderson so you are paying
30:45up to a degree still for him to fall from where he was trevion henderson this is a phenomenal value and the
30:52beauty is we're not starting trevion henderson in week one he can hit our lineup in week one but as you alluded
30:59to pete we don't have to start or sit players we can just let it fall where it may so maybe week
31:06one trevion henderson in the first few weeks doesn't hit and there goes ramondre stevenson but maybe a couple of backs that
31:13you end up with end up hitting the lineup for the rb2 spot or end up hitting a flex spot for you
31:21and we see you you go with jonathan brooks thank you so talk about that and tell me if you had any
31:28more on the trevion henderson angle i don't much more on the henderson angle this has been a this has been a
31:35really strange draft i i understand from some aspect like you know team 12 going here and they take justin herbert and
31:42then they come back around and take dak they took an unstacked herbert maybe they're going for for you know trey harris
31:49or you know clinton johnston uh but jayden daniels goes off the board as you know one two three four five six
31:56seven eighth quarterback off the board a pretty surprising we talked about daniels a little bit to to start the show we
32:03had a couple questions on him i mean i have daniels ranked as my qb3 uh this this this guy that gets
32:10daniels takes him unstacked and i i don't blame him i mean pretty much just saying hey this guy just fell to
32:17me he's a great quarterback and i'll just take him unstacked and just live with it because the upside's there so pretty
32:24interesting the caleb caleb williams owner just before that does have aj brown so i guess that's part probably no i'm sorry
32:32they have roma dunze so i guess that's part of why they took him but nearly here nor there i took jonathan
32:39brooks um so now you know so far the team is james cook malik neighbors josh allen dj moore terry mclaurin trevin
32:46henderson john the brook so i have the stack with uh josh allen um i cover up for the buys a little
32:53bit here because you know with the running backs at least uh you know when james cook is out i do have
33:00the two running backs there on separate buys again don't not super worried about the buys but it kind of just happens
33:07so you know we'll live with it that's totally fine we still set ourselves up to grab a guy like jackson dart
33:14um if we wanted to go that route get isaiah likely who i have uh you know i just came out on
33:21my sub stack you can read it uh i just came out with my targets and fades and likely is it target
33:28for me um it was not that way when the season offseason started but um you know they're just looking at the
33:36adp and where some guys have gotten pushed up and pushed down um i like where he's going currently uh so there's
33:43some avenues and some routes that we can go i do like jonathan brooks though i mean the drum beat's been really
33:50nice on him uh you know right now if you if you are paying attention to what is going on you know
33:57over there in uh you know in that in that camp he is sharing the work with hubbard in next preseason game
34:04and he didn't start in the hall of fame game he didn't even play so the fact that he's mixing it up
34:11with chuba hubbard chubba hubbard um is a good sign for those that are drafting jonathan brooks and uh he is going
34:18pretty high in drafts so i didn't mind taking him there uh i don't worry too much about the adp anymore the
34:25way i draft only time i really pay attention to adp j is when it's like hey i really love a player
34:32and i know i can wait on him even though i think maybe the board has mispriced him by 20 30 spots
34:39um you know that's the only time where i'm like okay i'm gonna take a chance and still wait off he hold
34:47off here before i take this guy but outside of that i don't mind you know shooting my shot on brooks uh
34:54this high uh in in this draft hey right here team seven i wonder if they go stefan diggs oh okay they
35:01didn't go stefan diggs i'll be curious to see if round 9 10 they go stefan diggs to go with jane daniels
35:08because you had mentioned the naked element with daniels but with the signing of stefan diggs now that becomes a viable option
35:15sometimes what will happen like the person in team 12 went just over to not front load your stack and only stack
35:22based on what's in front it ladder down and think of the players who are down in adp an example being when
35:29we got josh allen we weren't married to dj moore we had the element of you could get a khalil shakir or
35:36you could get somebody like a dalton kinkade so it'll be interesting to see what team seven does there but i love
35:43what you did p going back to your build three running backs three receivers got josh allen is there any tendency to
35:50come away with a quarterback at the 8-9 turn or are you going to keep leaning into probably because there's three receiver
35:58format one of these wide receivers yeah i i've thought about i thought about going a couple different ways alec pierce is
36:05following right now but i still don't really have much desire to draft him uh tight end wise there's some guys that
36:12have fallen i still have my guy dalton kinkade if i want to take him uh quarterbacks you know you got purdy
36:19you got jackson dart um i'm gonna go ahead and i'll just take jackson dart here i was thinking purdy just because
36:26you can still get a cheap stack with him debo and george kittle um i just worried that i wouldn't get kittle
36:33on the way back uh if i didn't take him next round and i just didn't want to be forced to have
36:40to do that um we still have the option of going dalton kinkade if we wanted to get the stack there but
36:47i'm also not going to press it because i'm not the highest on dalton kinkade either so um i'm just glad i
36:54got dart it opens up the ability to you know grab i love the tight ends that are better on the board
37:02i mean harold fan and jr just went off but this range of tight ends dalton kinkade kittle jake fergus and travis
37:09kelsey isaiah likely dallas goddard andrews like i like a lot of those tight ends so we're kind of set up in
37:16a way where we can still get kinkade we can still get likely potentially and even if we miss out on those
37:23guys like it's a tight end i'm not i'm not worried if i don't get the tight end for my stack either
37:30now game theory when you went into the jackson dart pick in my head i was thinking okay team 12 is not
37:37going to go quarterback so game theory what are the chances team 11 o'brien here would have gone jackson dart he actually
37:44i think it's good on the front end that you went jackson dart before this pick came back to you because they
37:51have since gone jared goff say that 10 times really quickly and brock purdy so they're going to have to worry about
37:58the back stack on the 49ers but something tells me that they may not have been worried about if they're not worried
38:05about a brock purdy back stack later who's to say they would not have sniped jackson dart on you so great pick
38:13good on you and there you go you uneven the 3-3 element at the receiver and running back position get your fourth
38:20receiver in mckay lemon we got him last week as well pete at a decent value as well i love that mckay
38:27lemon pick or do you have any concerns or do you think he's fallen a little bit in this draft for the
38:34fact that he's had what is it a hamstring issue and there's a little bit of a recurring theme where he's off
38:41the field do you think we're getting any kind of discount there we have plenty of wide receivers who are falling you
38:48know say flowers gets her a mecca buka and then later luther burden we hear later oh they're fine it's okay but
38:55you're like please bubble wrap them any concern about mckay lemon and are you loving the value that you have round nine
39:02mckay lemon yeah i i buy the fear great player uh you know i think the situation by the way dan we'll
39:09get to you and king i'll get to you in just a second as well um keep asking questions if you guys
39:16have them but yeah mckay lemon at this spot right i get him at you know one of two one oh one
39:24i got him at 99 um i look for those that don't know that don't know yeah like jay said you know
39:31lemon appears unlikely to play you know in this eagles uh you know pre-season games and stuff like that but i i
39:38think i think he's gonna be okay when it comes to getting out there week one i'll be a little bit more
39:45nervous if you know if we get closer and closer and he's still not participating but this is a guy that took
39:52pick 20 overall i loved mckay lemon coming out so i still really really like the talent um don tavian wicks people
39:59are worried about him yeah i think i think don tavian wicks is just going to be like a a good football
40:06player addition i don't know that he's going to be a volume guy a guy that's going to going to eat up
40:13a bunch of touches and a bunch of targets um i think when lemon's out there and he's healthy um he's going
40:20to be that number two guy maybe goddard's more that number two in the red zone but lemon's going to be that
40:28number two i'm not i'm not worried jay i mean and this is where you take those upside shots in a tournament
40:35like this in a player that's a first rounder top 20 pick in the draft this year um on an offense that
40:42we expect to be better than they were last year um and so yeah i have no issues no concerns taking lemon
40:49here if you're worried about taking a guy like him in a managed league where it's redraft that i can understand right
40:56not knowing when to start him i get that in a best ball format like this though i'm i don't have concerns
41:03well take it it's week one mckay lemon goes three for 56 people are shitting bricks because he only has an eight
41:10point performance and then it's week two and don tavian wicks connects on two large bombs that hey are great for some
41:17best ball teams and great for your dfs lineups right and then it's week three and people are just hitting the panic
41:24button on mckay lemon you can absolutely see that happening but people panic they're not patient and here you are get round
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42:14isaiah likely does go off the board didn't make it back to me but that's okay not gonna not gonna sweat that
42:21too much let's get the dance question here guys and then again keep sending your questions if you guys have him he
42:28said in redraft 10 man ppr he wants to know brock and carnell tate or neighbors and tucker craft that i mean
42:35i'm assuming this is brock bowers yes right yeah yes it's it's a tight end and receiver four for four the others
42:42and you're is brock or and this will happen in dynasty streets do you prefer brock bowers or malik neighbors and it
42:50could be tight end premium or not and then tate and then neighbors are the receivers that are compared brock and craft
42:57are the tight ends that are compared the bigger pieces are of course brock and neighbors and secondary tate and craft to
43:04me i like war value and i sit there and say to myself craft is more likely to eat into brock's yeah
43:11share and neighbor ceiling is going to maintain and abound whereas the chances of tate reaching into neighbor's ceiling is lesser so
43:18by that virtue i'm getting war value in craft eating into brock bowers and i don't see that outweighs to me tate
43:25trying to reach and manifest to malik neighbors because i still think it's wish casting as much as i love uh carnell
43:32tate on the player profiler he's right about wide receiver eight or nine in the dynasty ranks but there's a guy who's
43:39had 160 targets who has 170 to 200 target pace if he's all healthy in a 17 game rookie season for neighbors
43:46tate we're just projecting that we're still wish casting that we haven't seen it happen give me neighbors and craft what do
43:54you got pete yeah it's crazy same wavelength here i was thinking the same thing right i mean i i love carnell
44:01tate but as as a rookie he's gonna have to do some incredible incredible things on a really really poor offense that
44:08does have a lot of weapons right i mean you have uh you know when you look at historical seasons like neighbors
44:15right bad offense but neighbors didn't have weapons they did have on a lot washington ironically who we're talking about as weapons
44:22right for carnell tate same guy but ultimately same thought process as you right the the the chances of of tate being
44:29a top 10 guy and being in that threshold that neighbors is going to be in where neighbors has top five potential
44:36is not nearly as likely as tucker craft getting maybe not to where bowers is but getting pretty dang close ish on
44:43a points per game basis i see that happening and being more likely um we do have another question in here but
44:50i do want to grab my pick here really quick we got 30 set 39 seconds left and dalton kincaid comes back
44:57to us so that's perfect right dalton kincaid comes back to us we didn't press it we didn't push it right we
45:05are able to take lemon the high upside guy who really really wanted we didn't press a stack right i try not
45:12to press stacks as much as possible jay um likely goes off the board which sucks because i do like likely over
45:19kincaid but i'll take kincaid here and be happy with it and quite honestly i don't mind taking potentially another tight end
45:26on the way back with these guys like kittle and travis kelsey who i have both of those guys ranked inside the
45:33top 100 so like if i'm fine with taking them if travis kelsey he was i think tight end three last year
45:40if he increases from five touchdowns last year to 10 which can absolutely happen for travis kelsey and the eric b enemy
45:47offense i'm calling a dead cat bound season for travis kelsey you're talking about a guy who could absolutely be the tight
45:54end one and he's just being left for dead so i like your idea there but let's talk about dalton kincaid a
46:01little bit all ones and twos next to his name on our player profiler site production premium quarterback rating per target 149.2
46:09first fancy points per route run number one 0.67 first sounds per route run number one yards per route run 3.02 number
46:16one dalton kincaid so it's insane it's crazy uh where tucker craft and colson loveland are so efficient on their own but
46:23they've been able to do some volume dalton kincaid we just have to see pete he's got efficiency but can we get
46:30long term long form volume but my god you have just full stack share unique share of to me i would think
46:37you got dj moore dalton kincaid josh allen and james cook like the four horsemen of the buffalo bills in that brand
46:44new stadium which people are shitting on left and right pete how do you feel about the but you might have to
46:51go to a buffalo bills game it might be where do they play home we got to see their schedule if the
46:58bills are at home week 17 oh they're on the road against the dolphins you had mentioned so what are they that
47:05broncos game p is that going to be at buffalo i don't know i have to take a look by the way
47:12i was in a trance listening to what you said and i just got auto drafted kyle monunga and i left travis
47:20kelsey on the board so uh my bad they're not not ideal um i don't really love the Monongai pick so i'm
47:27not gonna spend too much time on it that was my bad i timed out and didn't even pay well hey here's
47:34some coat pete when there's that bears bills matchup it's just gonna correlate so well i guess that's true and you may
47:41be crazy you might have a league winner because if deandre swift gets hurt and the bears don't bring any kind of
47:48uh trade acquisition running back in all of a sudden you've got a stolen running back so this might just be the
47:55universe striking down some diversification for you yeah yeah it's uh it's in denver by the way well this may end up
48:02being an evan ingram team p we've talked up some evan ingram very late so if you have to go back we
48:09we can cope we can tell some cope stories and there goes khalil shakir oh no you know it's gonna be okay
48:16you don't need khalil shakir uh just before that though denzel boston pete can you talk about we were joking in a
48:23chat with our very own wyatt who's a beloved browns fan um deshaun watson threw up just the shittiest pass today and
48:31it just wobbled and spun around in the air harold fan and jr has to bat the ball down like he's playing
48:38volleyball it's just atrocious it's really bad dog water situation dog pound but denzel washington pete is crushing in practice boston day
48:45in day out how happy are you about that are you excited to draft him in these contests in other formats and
48:52redraft where are you at on year one denzel boston because we're getting hype i remember pre-nfl draft process those guys a
48:59lot like drake london or ted or mcmillan and here we're hearing drum beats about the browns feel like they have their
49:06own drake london year one is this something good for denzel boston yeah i mean i like boston um liked him coming
49:13out i liked casey more uh i like both guys a lot but i just really fell in love with casey conception's
49:20tape uh boston goes ahead of casey uh who hasn't gone off just yet so a little bit of a flip there
49:27because it was casey going ahead of boston but the drum beats just gotten louder um so yeah love to love to
49:35kind of see that um i would have loved coker over monungai uh i'm gonna be stinging about this for a little
49:42bit now um it's just super i'm super frustrated about that pick but whatever are you tilting are you tilting i'm tilting
49:49i'm tilting a little bit i'm i'm not happy about this at all but it is crazy because i'm sitting there like
49:56okay to your point pete and this is good for the audience right because we're here for them jalen coker you prefer
50:03denzel boston you prefer would you even prefer jake ferguson or is that is that the line there uh if i needed
50:10a tight end yeah i would have preferred but i'm not i'm not upset like i wanted kelsey kelsey maybe kelsey comes
50:17back to me i think it's crazy that he's still on the board i don't know it is it really is but
50:24let let me let let's grab let's let's rapid fire through some of these questions really quick um i dan came back
50:31and said if it was marv instead of tate would you change your mind it wouldn't change my mind no i think
50:38that would actually make it worse i'm more bullish on i think it's a better offer the one that involves tate so
50:46i'm trying to understand are you trying to acquire if you let us know are you trying to acquire malik neighbors and
50:53tucker craft and trying to sweeten the pot so i i would love to know that uh but if you have malik
51:00neighbors and tucker craft i i park it right there one note that was a 10 team lee every team in theory
51:07should be stacked like if you don't have a stack looking team in a 10 team league you're doing something very wrong
51:14but even all that accounting all even i still want malik neighbors and tucker craft so we do see brenton strange goes
51:21before travis kelsey mark andrews how would you sort that out in preference it seems like pete you wanted travis kelsey of
51:28course but brenton strange versus mark andrews uh which way would you lean um let's take a look yeah i have andrews
51:35at 13 and i have brenton strange what do i have strange strange strange strange strange strange because i can't find strange
51:42oh i have brenton strange at 14 so andrews 13 brenton strange at 14 jake ferguson uh at 12 two more two
51:49more picks peak i don't want you to get i know i know well i gotta say by the way yeah i'm
51:57so tilted about this because the receivers right now on the board just absolutely stink you got rashid shaheed i'm gonna share
52:04this tab you have rashid shaheed jalen mcmillan trey harris juan jennings cooper nailer tucker i mean this is this is this
52:11is this this kind of no man's land right now i mean stripling you could maybe consider if you're believing in the
52:18hype um maybe he's worth a flyer i would go trey harris maybe wow yeah i was thinking harris too i was
52:25i was the guy at make the guy at the 112 tilt because he took an unstacked justin herbert probably thinking there'd
52:32be nobody else pete in the draft who would want some trey harris and you take him two picks before he would
52:39have double tapped almost guarantee if we could see team 12 in the chat just comment like yeah f all you guys
52:46right now because you would have wanted some trey hair so look you're garnering some of that back and i know as
52:53much as you want travis kelsey there are other tight ends out there pete and uh terence ferguson um uh i think
53:01gads didn't make team 12 tilt more well yeah although they might go if they take gas and right now that's going
53:08to tell me that they were for sure interested in probably some combination yeah they were probably trying you're definitely trying to
53:15stack well because they have prescott so they really only have lamb ferguson just went off the board so they just lost
53:22ferguson jake they couldn't stack him they maybe take ryan florinoy they take stripling okay stripling and bryce it's just a gross
53:29team uh really really gross team although to go to go lamb jefferson and flowers i do like that start cam scadbo
53:36round four not so sure i'm not high on josh jacobs just because everything that's going on around him and i also
53:43think there's there's other picks that i prefer i i don't know what it is pete i find myself not clicking on
53:50josh hold on hold on hold on hold on dude harris and manungai both have week seven buys as well to make
53:57it even to put more salt in the wound when we're talking about the bye weeks on this team and i said
54:04i didn't care too much harris also has a bye week seven so i really i gotta i gotta fill this up
54:12here wait oh hold on are you sure about that because manungai it says chicago 10 oh 10 10 so i was
54:19looking at i was gonna get kinkade either way it doesn't help my situation i mean either way you wish you had
54:26travis kelsey that that's really the crux of it uh yeah maybe who do you want here who's on your who's in
54:33your queue it's just such a bad grouping of players right now man um i i just i'm really just not happy
54:40with hey scroll down if you need to you're at a 20 gapper it's gonna be a long time till they come
54:47back get your guy man oh gosh oh man um shoot man i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with juan johnson i'm
54:54gonna go take juan i'll take juan i know it's not sexy i got him ranked 15 you know um tight end
55:01positions getting a little thin and i just yeah whatever i don't i hate this team right this is a bad team
55:08it's a bad team i like it to start and then and then this is just like this has just been an
55:15awful like four picks i don't love kinky but i took him for the stack which is fine but then i get
55:23mononga harris and johnson it's like just such a just such a gross four players man i like juan johnson i like
55:30juan johnson i don't mind your hairs i don't like kyle mononga that much i don't like all dalton kincaid that much
55:37ironically like i have juan johnson ranked higher than dalton kincaid who i took four rounds below dalton kincaid three rounds so
55:44i'm tilting a little bit here well this is this is good though from an exercise of it's true serum so when
55:51you're in another draft you sure as shit know you do not want kyle mononga and i've had a couple of hold
55:58your nose picks and other formats where it's best ball high volume i'm talking i'm gonna end up between three and four
56:05hundred teams i've clicked a couple common on guys and i don't love it but i'm sitting there thinking well if he
56:12gets 10 to 12 touchdown run out or if it's the jamal williams path pete and he luck boxes into so many
56:19inside the five yard touchdowns and the weather gets bad and november and december football all of a sudden monsters of the
56:27midway just that that momentum where the bears they were fifth in team run plays per game last year so there's opportunity
56:34there plenty but it just seems like the ceiling won't be there until the event that something were to happen to a
56:41deandre swift so i know i know what you're thinking it's just it's such a not sexy pick i think is the
56:48crux of it yeah i mean look mononga can be fine uh it's just team build construction wise like when i'm just
56:55looking at what i want to do in a draft like this you know i want three wide receivers you know you
57:02have three wide receivers i mean my receivers are fine i mean it's malik it's dj it's terry like all three of
57:09those guys they're definitely some of them do carry risk right we just talk about age and then health and staying healthy
57:16dj getting up there he's 29 terry's getting up there he's also had some health issues and you have more neighbors so
57:23there's some risk there but again high risk high reward like totally okay with that um i just would have liked it
57:30to be a little bit better than it is but um this is definitely an upside team i mean henderson james cook
57:38jonathan brooks at the running backs we got the quarterbacks i love josh allen of course and um it's not a bad
57:45team uh it's not a bad team i do want to say pete needs a break here uh so let's take a
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59:2422 p.m granted we've been on this live stream you are tilting over the tight end position not getting travis kelsey well
59:31can i interest you pete in no tight end darren waller and the carolina panthers have reached a one-year deal it's wide
59:38open bryce young another year of development and ascension jatavion sanders didn't quite hit like we've wanted yeah i think it's i
59:45think it says a lot about how they really feel about jatavion um i mean all the starters aren't playing in the
59:53first game and jatavion sanders is uh for preseason in the hall of fame game i mean is he stuck behind tommy
60:00tremble it's a really tough scene the thing about jatavion sanders is he was starting to kind of ramp up and cook
60:07and you would see it but then he got hurt and he can never kind of get out of his own way
60:14funny enough jatavion sanders gunner helm gunner helms another name maybe we could go towards pete uh these texas tight ends have
60:21very similar builds so there's that's just something that i watch in the the archetype profile of texas tight ends unfortunately we
60:28haven't seen jatavion sanders hit yet and it may not it's not looking good with the darren waller signing gunner helm is
60:35somebody who i'm eyeing out there as well hopefully he matriculates up with somebody like cam ward so when i say the
60:42name the name's terrence ferguson or the names uh gunner helm any interest there pete or are you just down bad still
60:49as i did um i would prefer ferguson i think the ceiling is higher there uh with with ferg i like gunner
60:56helm i just i don't know that that the ceiling is nearly as high for for him as ferguson um i i
61:04do have some i do have something in mind here on this turn uh i'm gonna i'm gonna i am gonna grab
61:11a third quarterback um i am gonna take mendoza if he falls to me uh and try to get some cheap stacks
61:18here with some of these raiders wide receivers you have jalen nailer trey tucker um i do happen to like those guys
61:25for best ball so um i'm gonna take a third quarterback just because let me just take one quick peek here just
61:32to make sure i mean i do i don't mind taking tank bigsby too i really like having like the high-end handcuff
61:39um but these wide receivers i mean nobody's really like sticking out to me that i'm just like wow i love them
61:46i would maybe consider taking pat bryant but um i'll take mendoza here take mendoza there we love that and we talked
61:53about jack betch and fernando mendoza playing against the arizona cardinals in week 17 so you line yourself up for something like
62:00that not the worst thing and remember last week pete we drafted malik benson very late we hear about running with the
62:08one so there's another one that in the 20s as it gets buried you may be able to present yourself another cheap
62:15stack so i kind of like what you did and josh allen jackson dart what better player to have as your third
62:22quarterback than somebody like fernando mendoza when you don't have to deal with worrying about when mendoza would play and as we
62:29get to the middle of the draft here we're here now in round 15 this back half there's a little bit of
62:36a redraft mindset if you think proactively for the fact that you need to acquire who would be the week four pickup
62:43on the waiver wire streets the week eight pickup week 12 pickup like you have to anticipate all these players as it
62:50gets to the depth charts range the bench range so this will be fun to see as you're scaffolding your team so
62:57i like that you did that for your third we had somebody consider stacking schmacking i guess they're not a huge proponent
63:04granted you want cumulative points but there is a degree the dfs element where in a weekly vacuum as you're stacking points
63:11one goes with the other yeah no and and it's like i said i don't i try not to press the stack
63:19i didn't even press the stack with dalton kincaid he just came back to me um i we talked about i didn't
63:26even really want him i kind of wanted kiddle or kelsey i was kind of hoping that kincaid would be gone so
63:33i didn't i didn't take him um but i did um ironically i take mendoza and then i don't even go with
63:40one of those raiders wide receivers i just took seattle's defense because you know i i'm always a big proponent of not
63:47drafting defense as high and um at this time in this area uh to get seattle uh who i i have seattle
63:54ranked um let me just double check here uh yeah i have seattle ranked third uh i don't have the rams are
64:01the first defense off the board i have the rams ranked at like seven once aaron donald signs they'll probably move up
64:08a little bit to probably like closer to five or four but um i just figured you know what let me go
64:15take the high end upside with defense here it seems like we're getting a defense run anyway um chance that i i
64:22don't know if anybody's really pushing and pressing to go get you know jaylen nailer and some of these other you know
64:30raiders guys and even if i don't get this guy i don't mind taking like a michael mayor and and maybe taking
64:37malik benson later as the only two guys connected to mendoza but either way i get some insurance there with with uh
64:44with the quarterback so um you want to read kyle's question here yep a little room for a keeper question do you
64:51keep tony pollard or george kittle in a keeper redraft i'm going to assume they're both mid to i don't know late
64:58round picks george kittle was probably a little more expensive last year i would lean towards the positional onesie advantage in george
65:05kittle pete do you like the surety of a 1a back in tony pollard or do you go for the upside in
65:12a top five fancy points per game season guy like george kittle yeah i mean it's it's it's kittle for me too
65:19uh i just look at it like get the position taken and out of the way guy has upside getting tony pollard
65:26it's not like oh okay great now i'm good on depth i don't need the draft running back depth like you get
65:34pollard as a keeper it's not really like changing how you draft it's kind of just like oh this is nice i
65:41have tony pollard you draft kittle you can say all right i have kittle this changes how my style i don't need
65:48to take a tight end the first couple rounds i don't need to take the tight end maybe in the top 100
65:55and maybe i can go take you know if i have kittle i can maybe go take uh you know a guy
66:02later on that i like like a juan jenning uh juan johnson or you know hunter henry or greg dolcich or whatever
66:09right like that's that's how my mindset goes even if pollard goes off the board typically ahead of kittle in redraft like
66:16i just get keeping pollard does nothing for me yeah exactly it's kind of like kyle mononga it really doesn't do much
66:23for you doesn't get the juices flowing doesn't get the blood flowing you have that upside in a george kittle and because
66:30it's early season we don't know the return rate although kittle looks like he's moving pretty well maybe you supply with some
66:37jake tongis and that week one matchup you at least have the shorty of it almost be like if park bowers were
66:45dealing with some ailment you might as well just have michael mayer and not have to worry but that's not the case
66:52but that's just in the hypothetical exercise so with somebody like george kittle way late at the very end nobody right now
66:59is gonna go and take jake tongis on you in a redraft league when you have george kittle so i think that
67:06would be a good idea to implement keep kittle as your keeper and get your running backs elsewhere i don't think they're
67:13the one thing in a keeper league if it's two by 12 that's 24 players who are taken from the player pool
67:20a lot of running backs have gone i i just don't still think i would be interested in tony pollard to your
67:27point pete no no now pete what's coming up here in the next couple picks what direction are you again read off
67:34the team build what you have you have three quarterbacks you have two tight ends a defense how many running backs yeah
67:41i have uh currently have my quarterbacks are josh allen mendoza and dart um running backs i have james cook so that's
67:48a stack with uh allen i have chevin henderson jonathan brooks kyle monungai uh wide receivers i have malik neighbors who i
67:56get stacked with dart i have dj moore who stacks with allen um and then i have terry mcclore and makai lemon
68:03trey harris uh tight end i have dalton kincaid and then i have juan johnson and the seattle defense um in terms
68:10of where i'm going here jaylen nailer does come back to me and so does trey tucker um i prefer jaylen nailer
68:17i'll take nailer here again just one of those things i didn't press just because i wanted nailer for the stack i
68:24took the the the uh the surefire better pick in seattle stacks you know if you don't count the stacks seattle's defense
68:31is just a much much better pick there so i'm happy about that malik washington goes off the board who a little
68:38bit frustrating that that i didn't see him in the queue we're going to be honest um because i have malik washington
68:45i talked a little bit about my risers uh you know this week and malik washington is a riser for me um
68:52i have malik washington i want to say i have him ranked inside the top 140 uh just for overall players um
69:00at wide receiver jay i have malik washington at wide receiver 58 ahead of khalil shakir ahead of rasheed shaheed right now
69:07um what what are your thoughts on malik washington i mean drumbeat's been pretty good for him too uh you know not
69:14a lot of target competition uh i have i have washington pick 138 that's where i have him ranked overall i'm very
69:21high on caleb douglas he was a sleeper for me in the pre-draft process and then he got such good draft capital
69:28round three ahead of chris bell which is insane chris bell people are forgetting round one talent without the injury and the
69:35thing about douglas is the dimensions of the field the defenders are lucky that there's dimensions on the field because there's an
69:42actual out of bounds there's plays where douglas is just long gone and if you can recall the dallas cowboys randy moss
69:49thanksgiving game he catches a pass and then just like jukes the defender turns up field and sprints i see a little
69:56bit of that ability in somebody like a caleb douglas now catch radius and all the other elements that a receiver needs
70:03trust me caleb douglas does not have in the vein of somebody like randy moss but it's just like one little thing
70:11that glimmer of like hey what can you do that's hyper well um caleb douglas does provide a pretty decent target for
70:18himself my only issue with douglas is in the red zone he's a little bit weaker the ball will get popped out
70:25of his hands easily and he's not as big of a target in that tight zone area as we would like i'd
70:32like to see him come down with more in the red zone but i i'm team caleb douglas and i prefer him
70:39over malik washington malik washington really hasn't shown early in his career just yet but the argument for malik washington would be
70:46high volume and now that waddles out of the way tyreek hill opportunity abounds and funny enough that's every i can make
70:53we can make that case pete for every dolphins player shy of devon a chan he's insulated but greg dulcich oh he's
71:00just gonna get volume because he's a tight end there it's free caleb douglas malik washington it's all there for any positional
71:07player in this dolphins offense because you really don't know who's going to separate so what do you make of do you
71:14think it's caleb douglas or are you of the mind it sounds like you're of the mind that malik washington will be
71:22the one in miami yeah i i i do think it's gonna be malik washington um i i like you said this
71:29is an offense that's not really gonna be super sexy anyway um not how high is the ceiling i don't know but
71:36washington's you know gadgety you know upside player he might not get a ton of volume but i think he's he's a
71:43home run hitter right so that's that's why i prefer him um you know over him i do want to say i
71:50did just take travis hunter which uh is not normal for me but in best ball i do like taking travis hunter
71:57i mean i'm getting him at like pick 200 here uh or like pick 190 195 jay like we talk upside i
72:04don't want travis hunter and like managed redraft leagues i really really just don't um but travis hunter is a great great
72:11best ball pick in my opinion uh just because there will be times there will be games where yeah he's not gonna
72:18get he's not gonna be a managed redraft player because you just don't know when to start him but there will be
72:26spike weeks for travis hunter in my opinion um so i'm happy to take him you know at the spot and take
72:33that risk jay uh so that that's why i'm taking him here i mean you're you're practically getting him at like pick
72:40200 and and that's more than worth the gamble for for you know what the upside could be even if a guy
72:47gets injured on that team you know and he has to play more uh you know he becomes a really really more
72:54appealing pick even if even if you're still like yeah i still don't want to draft uh start him in like a
73:01managed redraft um best ball wise he becomes a really good pick so uh i took him there i don't really see
73:08many guys on the board here that i'm just like yeah it's major upside i mean tank dell was available jay i
73:15thought about it really really did um kayshawn boutte was available i thought about him as well but ultimately i just passed
73:22and and and i went with uh i went with my gut on hunter well it's good that you went on hunter
73:29just because hey you gotta have a ticket to ride the ride i when i look at upside though in the rest
73:37of that round for me it is bonerific for somebody like damon claiborne i'm very excited and hyped about him aaron jones
73:44hyping uh claiborne up like hey jameer gibbs like skill set i think it's going to be the claiborne in mason show
73:51and mason is going to run very pure i think mason gets a thousand yard rushing season because of open lanes with
73:58kyler murray but damon claiborne can absolutely be that lightning he's the one pick that i would if it were me in
74:05the shoot but we have to get some diversification in all these drafts and the clay runs you could pick though so
74:12everyone's a good pick the cool thing about your travis hunter pick pete is we do this running back drafting all the
74:19time where it is a damon claiborne or is a tank bixby behind saquon barkley marshawn lloyd behind josh jacobs where we
74:26think okay we get to second factor authentication of there's an injury and now this player hey brian robinson after b john
74:33robinson maybe gets hurt we always think about that level but we don't necessarily think of well what if parker washington gets
74:40hurt or there's concurrent injuries at the receiving position and it's a domino effect of yeah it's just jacoby myers right now
74:48because btj and parker washington are out all of a sudden pete in step somebody like travis hunter yeah yeah no i'm
74:55i'm with you um clayborne was unfortunate because i just didn't see him i was a little upset because i wanted ted
75:02hurst here i was hoping i could get on the turn here ted hurst and pat bryant who i think are really
75:09really nice picks for best ball format um you know you already have jalen waddle dealing with this uh somewhat injury but
75:16if he's if he's back in a few days um i'm not really over overly concerned it could have just been a
75:23dehydration kind of thing um and then ted hurst of course i mean he's he's surrounded by guys that are already kind
75:30of dealing with injuries already jalen mcmillan you have you have chris godden who's dealt with injuries and you also have big
75:37buku just we got rolled up on uh so ted hurst really really nice pick and that's a baker mayfield boner so
75:44i'm not totally surprised in my head i knew there was a chance once i saw him and i was like i
75:52don't know if he's gonna come back to me here um well pat bryant tell us about pat bryant and of course
75:59make your pick don't don't get distracted by the smooth words that i have but man pat bryant i am ecstatic elated
76:06you talk about not getting if you didn't the first draft you did you got courtland sutton and you got him at
76:13great value and we're not talking about walmart even though they're interchangeable with the denver broncos but jalen waddle courtland sutton if
76:20you're not going to get them one of the best picks on the broncos leaving the running backs out of this would
76:27be somebody like pat bryant how excited are you because i think separating the wheat from the chaff or whatever the filtering
76:34out you've got somebody like pat bryant troy franklin and marvin mims give me pat bryant i'm so excited about him and
76:41i'm glad you got that pick so break down your thesis bullish run on somebody like pat bryant yeah uh so broncos
76:48depth chart just came out today uh right now it's listed for the starters is marvin mims actually ahead of troy franklin
76:55uh marvin is the third starter it was not pat bryant it was bryant uh franklin and little jordan humphries as the
77:03the next set of guys the backups uh but pat bryant's been making you know play after play in camp uh it
77:10seems like every single day i'm reading from zach stevens who is a beat reporter for denver um you know that that
77:17pat bryant's making another play has made another big reception and so you know bryant is the guy that on those third
77:24downs you know when it's third and five third and six third and long like bryant's probably going to be out there
77:31a good amount um and troy franklin has became a really big loser since the jalen waddle trade like that that was
77:38that was the biggest loser uh but bryant's just really like a mini courtland sutton in many ways right this is a
77:45guy who is is capable of catching touchdowns and being a big body uh receiver down in the red zone making clutch
77:52catches uh so i think i think he has got a really really nice future in denver and you could see sutton
77:59just not here after next year they might cut him or trade him because pat bryant you know is cheaper and and
78:06going into year three um and sutton you know they could save some money on just moving off of him who's an
78:14aging veteran uh so really really like pat bryant he's moved up my rankings um you know in just overall i have
78:21bryant he was another riser for me uh bryant's right now is is pick 165 um in overall rankings 165 i have
78:28him one spot ahead of jacoby lane and one spot behind ryan florinoy um you know i view a lot of those
78:35guys in that area it's kind of just more best ball picks like jacoby lane's fun we got jacoby lane jay at
78:42like pick 290 two weeks ago which was all that news all the news came out we took him and uh we
78:49took cyrus allen in that draft as well um that was it that one was a really really nice draft and so
78:56i'll have a write-up on that uh later this week we talked about that already but yeah uh some other guys that
79:03go off the board behind uh you know i well i also did take kamani vidal on the turn i thought between
79:10him and mike washington in my head i said you know if genti goes down it's really just mike washington but i
79:18look at kamani vidal jay and i just i continue to to like him over keaton mitchell um keaton mitchell i just
79:25i'm still not there on the hype i do have kamani vidal ranked 183 um i have keaton mitchell ranked at 192
79:32i keep keaton mitchell jay went i'm scrolling up here uh keaton mitchell and i'd love to know what your thoughts are
79:39on him yeah round 10 for keaton mitchell i mean are we are we are we serious i mean i know i
79:46i understand and i heard you know what mcdaniel you know mike mcdaniel said that you know he's gonna ride the hot
79:53hand there's no real three-headed monster in the nfl jay i mean that's just not a real thing teams don't do that
80:00it's not real keaton mitchell also just was not a pass catcher in college he's never been a pass catcher you know
80:07he's never shown that skill set but doll has so it's like people are projecting this role for keaton mitchell and i
80:14just don't really see it if you're thinking hey he might have a couple of big runs big touchdowns that's fine but
80:21round 10 costs for a guy that maybe gives you two three spike weeks at best of like 14 15 points and
80:29if amaran henton goes down jay keaton mitchell is not touching the ball as a as a bell cow it's gonna be
80:36come on even at all so i just i'm kind of lost on the whole keaton mitch keaton mitchell thing and people
80:43get pissed off when i talk about this sometimes i i just i'm just not there on it i just don't really
80:50understand the hype well you're going against their fomo so there's a fear of missing out and the people are going to
80:57click earlier as evidenced by the round 10 pick and then you're going against dopamine hit of they want to steal away
81:04another hn with a mike mcdaniel corollary he's not keaton mitchell is not devon hn and the fomo is it's week three
81:11week four the weather's nice the fall is starting to kick up it's a sunny sunday afternoon those chargers games west coast
81:18about four or five o'clock and he's doing damage on a given week you don't want to be on the other side
81:25of of that and hey why didn't i click keaton mitchell problem is we've never seen longevity from keaton mitchell we don't
81:33see long form volume for him and people are projecting that role on him it's still a degree of wish casting for
81:40keaton mitchell one for one sub in by dal for hampton applies that ancillary role though which will be valuable it is
81:47a cap ceiling keaton mitchell i would almost liken it to like a capped version of rj harvey where rj harvey people
81:54aren't talking about the ceiling that rj harvey could have in that pass catching role but people want it for somebody like
82:01a keaton mitchell they'll buy it and believe it so much where five out of the last six games last year anywhere
82:08from what 17 to 22 points was rj harvey granted he has some issues north south running but people seem to think
82:15there's this uncapped ceiling on keaton mitchell but want to cap it with somebody like rj harvey your thoughts yeah it's a
82:22it's a good it's a good parallel to kind of make there uh and connect the two harvey of course has a
82:29little bit of a of a has more of a role and will have more of a role um and it's behind
82:36a running back who is just not going to catch the football in jk dobbins um i'm trying to let's remove the
82:44big show show big sticker come on get off the screen um where did harvey go because he's been falling okay so
82:51rj goes at 87 keaton mitchell goes two rounds two two rounds two point two almost two and a half a little
82:58less than two and a half rounds after uh rj harvey i mean that's just i i don't know man i mean
83:05you're taking keaton mitchell over rico rico dowdle like yeah in what world in what world are we doing that over kyle
83:12mononga my god over kyle mononga if you if you sat in like round 13 round 14 ish and you said yeah
83:19i'll take keaton over chris rodriguez or eric jones yeah like i don't love keaton mitchell but i'm not gonna fight you
83:26on it and and be like what are we doing like why are we taking keaton mitchell ahead of these guys that's
83:33fine but i mean i just don't know again i don't know what the upside case is for keaton mitchell outside of
83:40a couple of big weeks potentially and you might say well that pays off that doesn't pay for you know if a
83:47guy's a complete zero outside of like maybe two or three weeks is that really paying off i mean what is keaton
83:55mitchell's biggest days for fantasy been in his career and people would be like well mike mcdaniels loves him and he was
84:02stuck behind derrick henry they drafted amara and hampton the first round and kamani vidal was more than capable jeremiah of of
84:09of carrying the workload and catching passes for them last year so i guess i just i don't know i'm i know
84:16we're ranting about this and it's like yeah what are we doing but keaton mitchell most touches in a season was 59
84:23and it was 2025 right he's caught nine one and nine passes in his career and we're just projecting to do what
84:30what are we projecting him to do and that was behind derrick henry who couldn't catch the is not a receiving back
84:37and i get it justice hill was there but like if keaton mitchell can't beat out justice hill in the receiving role
84:44why do we think that keaton mitchell is just going to get this massive role when i want to have to catch
84:51the football and so can kamani vidal that that's exactly it both hampton and vidal can nuke and as the kids say
84:59mog keaton mitchell to where keaton mitchell cannot mog marian hampton and kamani vidal from a duality standpoint where keaton mitchell is
85:06not going to be between the tackles grinder if marian hampton goes down it's not full bell cow status i almost laughed
85:13saying it out loud for keaton mitchell it just isn't going to happen and round 10 price people are wish casting and
85:20baking and sealing there so look i love kamani vidal had 22 targets last year 22 exactly it's a volume issue we're
85:27wish casting in way over projecting volume that isn't there hasn't been evidence either it's an issue going back to your kamani
85:34vidal pick though pete talk about the process and the layer of your running back build right now you have mike washington
85:41jr you don't have and i love this application you do not have ashton janty who i think he went to team
85:48seven or team eight great pick a little bit more of a call your shot teammate goes ashton janty so we see
85:55a little bit of an expense there but he's going to be phenomenal this year but you're going against that team janty
86:02goes down you have mike washington i love getting the play of getting backs who are off the bell cow backs who
86:10you do not roster and do not have so talk to me about how you feel about you don't have a marian
86:17hampton god knows you don't have keith mitchell who went in round 10 you don't have ashton janty but here you've come
86:24away with kamani vidal and mike washington two good core backup running backs who will leverage versus the field in the event
86:31that there's a hampton or janty injury yeah i i i i think it's a big the big thing i like to
86:38look at is really just like what running backs can be transferable to the role that like from the starter for what
86:45they'd be taking over and what i mean by that is like mike washington if janty goes down washington will be has
86:52the potential to be in every down back is he going to be a top 15 back in the nfl no right
86:59is he does he have that ability maybe if he wants the right situation i mean i thought i liked him but
87:06i i don't know um but still size speed you know tools like mike washington can translate to be that guy so
87:13you're getting a potential of getting a three down back a guy that's going to get put into a role with some
87:21volume same thing with kamani vidal that's why i took him um we're kind of at the point where we've we've hit
87:28on a decent amount of running backs here um i did take my kicker defenses are getting a little bit thin but
87:35i did take a defense high um i'm trying to think here i did all the defenses i mean we may have
87:42to just take a defense here um and while you're sorting that out i love that you went for the tampa bay
87:49buccaneers uh for the kicker position jace mclaughlin last year just absolutely kicked the shit out of the ball it was great
87:56i had him um it's weirdly enough i remember this vividly and granted it'll be team points for kicker for the tampa
88:03bay buccaneers so we can rant and rave about how much we love the tampa bay buccaneers this year but i'm in
88:10this 200 dynasty league home league it's fun it's awesome flex but there is a defense and a kicker they they can't
88:17get away from it it's a little bit boomery and my kicker it just the guy i roll with and then i
88:25cut and gain whoever i can off the waiver wire but it was chase mclaughlin and it was just such a great
88:32advantage versus the field you talk about war value of can tucker craft cut into brock bowers well chase mclaughlin on a
88:39given week he can war value cut into some of the elite kickers that are out there in kicking teams so i
88:46like that application and in the event that mclaughlin were to get hurt it's a different kicker you have the baker mayfield
88:53tampa bay led offense so it's plenty of point opportunity sometimes it's as simple as that the play that you make for
89:00your kickers is is this a high octane offensive team the only other time with kickers strategy wise you know you know
89:07very well chris broswell whenever you get a team where it's like hey mike tomlin they're least likely to go for it
89:14on fourth down and they get stall drive so it's like 40 and 50 yard kicks all the time you love to
89:21see it yeah uh by the way on the board here a couple guys stick out to me it's it's it's early
89:28ish i guess yes i i told you how much i just don't care about the adps i'm gonna take keenan allen
89:36um just just off the sheer fact alone that there's he's gonna he's gonna join a team soon jay um and i
89:43look at keenan allen he might not be debo he might not be stefan diggs at this point but keenan allen saw
89:50like what a hundred targets last year maybe a little bit less on this chargers team so he'll find his way somewhere
89:57to get that value i mean and jacoby lane just goes right after him but and and keon coleman goes right before
90:04him i did consider him just off the sheer fact alone of just getting another person on this on this bill's lineup
90:11um but what are your thoughts on keenan allen taking him this late i mean uh do you think he's gonna hang
90:18it up and just call it quits or or do you think we see him sign somewhere in the next uh next
90:25week or two the beauty about free agency is it literally is what the name describes as agency you're free to go
90:32where you want and the beauty is for somebody like keenan allen he doesn't have to play on a crappy team he
90:39can go back to the bears in the event that luther burns injury were more serious he could go print paper there
90:47and go for a championship so i think there's duality where keenan allen is saying i want to win a championship and
90:54i want to go to somewhere where there'd be a good fit the chargers could present an opportunity if there were an
91:01injury basically any kind of injury can pop up and look uh law of large numbers that there's what 14 teams now
91:08that make the playoffs and then maybe a handful of other teams on top you're talking about so many teams that are
91:15that look good who could contend at the very early part of the season to where if there's an injury like look
91:22if the dolphin suffers some injury to malik washington it's not gonna be like oh my god we got to get keenan
91:29allen but if it's the colts and alec pierce doesn't look right and josh downs gets hobbled again now you're sitting there
91:36hey 1-800 keenan allen to the colts and viable so it's a good position a good pick for you preemptive to go
91:43round 23 why not i i like it better than i've seen people before i think you did it before naji harris
91:51where you think he's going to end up on a team it's still probably a good move but keenan allen is is
91:58much better and you need another receiver i like it a lot well thank you i appreciate that that you like the
92:05pick um i yeah i think i think i think colts make a lot of sense i feel like we would have
92:12probably seen it by now but we haven't which been kind of surprising uh but yeah i i i i'm liking the
92:19team more as it's kind of gone on here it's still tilting about that that that one grouping because there's just it
92:26feels like a big drop off in high-end players you know i love jalen cocker i would love to grab him instead
92:33of getting all the awesome guy yeah or boss really the browns receivers one of them yeah the rap the rap of
92:40of players that went off you saw strange you saw ferguson you saw tyler alger you saw kc um you know cocker
92:47boss and it's just a lot of good players that i would have liked to have grabbed that we didn't uh so
92:54that kind of sucked but um do you want to take one quick break uh i see some two questions here from
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96:56can go ahead and do that that would be uh very very much appreciated jeremy bernard jay uh still on the board
97:03here uh not like a guy that i'm in love with but i'm going to take jeremy bernard and that probably settles
97:10me down a little bit on taking wide receivers i took keenan allen tory horton and jeremy bernard as my last three
97:17picks love love the tory horton pick i'm curious what your thoughts are there's a real possibility jay that he can be
97:24wide receiver two on this team um you know it's cooper cup it's jsn of course is number one and then it's
97:32really who else is at the jsn right maybe a royal right villain they're saying maybe it's like a tweener but tory
97:39horton feels like a really nice pick this late uh and and just another type of guy that i'm just trying to
97:46take shots on yeah especially here in round 24 i love tory horton and everything you're saying i've drafted tory horton and
97:53i've drafted as if cooper cup really doesn't exist anymore as a viable fantasy football option and it's when you can do
98:00certain things like that it helps you push through those fear barriers and you get to a guy like a tory horton
98:07and if you think in the most positive outcome you know upside wins championships and i think scott barrett has coined that
98:14phrase plenty and it's very true at certain points you know i know earlier callback we were frustrated with the kyle mononga
98:21i pick but as we layer down in this draft somebody like a tory horton a trey harris these are picks that
98:28get us really excited because you see the contingent upside that's out there so i love what you're saying about tory horton
98:35it may end up being elijah arroyo aj barner as the number two target but we saw what tory horton did last
98:43year he was becoming pete one of those discovery fee finders fee types of players where you could not pry him off
98:50people's dead hands because of how he was elevating prior to his injury he was very close he was like maybe one
98:57or two more games of showing out hitting in the end zone where people were like no i'm not selling him for
99:04anything because i got you know a greg lombard rookie card and i know it's going to be valuable right so yeah
99:11i like those picks i like the direction that you're going in i think we had a keeper question pete we do
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99:32have not done it already uh we'll answer dan's question first and then we'll get to esco's keeper question uh dan said
99:39uh which lineup is better kyler bijon bucky nico neighbors craft lad or kyler bijon bucky nico lad bowers marv so the
99:46real big difference here you know quarterback bijon bucky none of that changed it's really nico lad bowers marv or bucky nico
99:54neighbors craft lad um so nico's on both teams it's really okay so it's neighbors craft versus bowers marv this is kind
100:01of what we talked about before yeah this is that guy's trade that he was trying to analyze yeah yeah so he's
100:08trying to understand whatever side has the neighbors and and craft situation is where i'm aligned yeah me too me too and
100:15we spent a decent amount of time on that so we'll move on um esco said better value keep walker at round
100:22six or drake may at round 14 um i'm still gonna go with uh with walker round six uh may round 14
100:29of course jay is like a free pick here it's only the only caveat though is if this is super flex in
100:36no hesitation yeah yeah of course it's drake may because i i can't remember i don't think it was round 14 where
100:43he would have been drafted last year but people play you never know what happens right pete yeah but if it's single
100:50quarterback it's absolutely walker and for utility of answering the question if it's a super flex set and forget uh drake may
100:58but i lean with if it's just one quarterback yeah it's absolutely walker round six walker goes at the one two turn
101:05in single quarterback formats drake may it's a couple rounds later it it wouldn't really matter even that that difference for kenneth
101:12walker the chiefs have the most uh vacated targets uh at the the running back position they're just in great shape i
101:19love the the chiefs for next year the running game the offense we talked about travis kelsey pete we love some travis
101:26kelsey we'll get him next team we have him uh but yeah give me ken walker as the keeper as you're coming
101:33up in round 26 pete mary de marcato goes what position are you thinking you'll attack here and how do you think
101:40the last as you're winding down any pieces where you're like hey i want another defense i want another kicker i need
101:47well yeah kickers so kickers and defenses are gone um so we have we do have two defenses we have uh seattle
101:54and we have arizona we only have one kicker so um we ended up getting the box kicker which it is what
102:01it is you're you're talking about there could be a week where maybe we draft another kicker and on the buy you
102:09know we're we're missing out on a five point performance right if we miss out on five points five points yeah that
102:16sucks that would be shitty if we missed out on the thirty thousand dollars because we didn't draft the kicker and you
102:23know we missed out on five points on a bye we totally totally get that but um it's gonna be what it's
102:30gonna be man uh i mean i think the team has a lot of upside i'm fine with how things have kind
102:37of shaken out so far um let's get to uh pen pen panda love yeah you asked you read that question off
102:44and then let me sure you got it and you focus over there uh 10 man dynasty not super flex so that's
102:51not to be confused with one quarterback i guess so it's not super flex they have drake may blake quorum and tyler
102:58warren do you trade for jonathan taylor jordan love and tucker craft i see so may quorum warren not super flex jt
103:05love craft so i'm looking at jt clears over blake quorum tyler warren i like a little more than tucker craft they're
103:12close enough what do you think pete i think you you go for the value of somebody like jonathan taylor and and
103:20jordan love over because jonathan taylor really clears somebody like blake quorum and i can see war value somebody like jordan love
103:27people don't like to think of it i think he can cut into drake may a little bit more than people think
103:34this year even if there's a little bit of regression i love the aj brown connection in one quarterback league and you're
103:41getting the tucker craft love stack i like the taylor love craft side what do you think pete um yeah so i
103:48mean looking here right you have like you said it's not super flex the fact that it's not super flex makes this
103:55more interesting but i still prefer drake may uh decently over over love um so i look at it that way i
104:02mean jt over quorum by a mile and then it's pretty close between obviously warren and tucker craft so the real big
104:09difference here is is that the leap from points per game from love to drake may enough to say i'm good with
104:16you know tearing down to love because you're getting late quorum off your team and getting jonathan taylor i would take jonathan
104:24taylor side as well um it hurts because obviously drake may is phenomenal and tyler warren i think also has you know
104:31tight end one upside but you get the stack with craft and love which really is i don't care about stacking and
104:38manage leagues as much um but overall yeah i guess i would still go with the craft i'd go with the jt
104:45side if you're in a win now situation now if you're telling me this is a team that's not competing then i
104:52would prefer drake may uh side with blake quorum and tyler warren just because you know you're resetting it at the quarterback
104:59with age with drake may getting pretty young there quorum is young too he he has upside he's not a zero um
105:06and then tyler one i just feel like you need a better running back though than blake quorum in this kind of
105:13deal if you're giving up jt tucker craft side but i understand it so then we have a comment uh i've never
105:20seen anyone win one of these with only one d or one kicker i guess if you could give us clarification is
105:27that a team that had one defense but maybe multiple kickers didn't win team that had multiple defenses and only one kicker
105:35or is this solely one d and one kicker um it sounds like either of those positions you need to have at
105:42least two of each is i think the point that's being made track hat does not like my team okay doesn't like
105:49my team man that's he that's he said stacking smacking before and now he's hating and now he's hating on the uh
105:56the fact that i missed out on getting a second kicker um he needs to ask us or tell us sorry what
106:03do you think of ollie gordon what do you think uh strat cat of ollie gordon in round 27 i'm trying to
106:10think i saw jalen wright go i think in round 19 that is insane value if you think that ollie gordon is
106:17not even just the direct handcuff to devon hm but maybe i know mcdaniel is gone but a little bit of that
106:24yesteryear of raheem most are touchdown between the gaps grinder roll i just think ollie gordon is a superior back to jalen
106:31wright yeah i mean a doke uh walker award winner in ollie gordon who before coming out of college the that was
106:38the year before um his senior season and he had a bad year and then fell on the draft but looked really
106:46really good in the nfl when he's had opportunities so far and i don't really understand the i mean we're getting an
106:53eight round discount from jalen warren jalen wright to ollie gordon who like you said we talked about it like ollie gordon
107:00is the direct handcuff and will touch the ball more than jalen wright will unless jalen wright just became a just flat
107:07out much better player this off season which is remain to be seen but we have seen good play out of ollie
107:14gordon um you know we haven't seen that nearly as much you know with jalen wright and strat cat said shrunk yeah
107:21look we're not we're not saying we're not getting a home run hitter here or you know uh a a player that's
107:28gonna win us our league but when we just think of how do we get value this late in the draft with
107:35running backs we're trying to marry and and pattern match like who's going to slide into that role of the starter and
107:42it's it's ollie and i think he gets majority of those touches so that's kind of my thought process there um i'm
107:50looking at tight end here because um i did take i don't know if you saw but i did take eli raritan
107:57and i was curious to see what your thoughts were um there has been some talk uh that eli raritan has actually
108:04been playing over hunter henry and some uh in some of these practices so far so i was curious to see what
108:11your thoughts are on him well you don't rule out the fact that the new england patriots could go with 12 personnel
108:18it could be hunter henry and eli raritan then we're talking about we've talked in prior shows either on here on these
108:25streams or on our other player profiler shows pete where it would be in two wide receiver sets it'd be aj brown
108:32and romeo dobbs and then everybody else's sol on the wide receiver depth chart as far as who's going to be fantasy
108:39viable right so we like to think of these bunch formations for so many other teams i don't think that's been talked
108:46about enough for the new england patriots where people think well raritan is shielded behind directly hunter henry doesn't necessarily have to
108:53be that way we did see hunter henry just got some compensation i think what is a two-year deal nothing groundbreaking but
109:01the patriots love hunter henry but they really like what's going on with eli raritan so i think that's a good layered
109:08pick for you and then one more time going back to the ollie gordon thing you don't have to want a chan
109:15so this is just another back that you have that you're stacking in your favor for when we do law of large
109:22numbers and there's attrition at the running back position which there hasn't been in the last few years you're bound to have
109:29some injuries and it hurts you hate to say it but you'll end up what's going to happen pete is everybody's just
109:36going to be running to all different apps and all different teams that they have to check out those handcuffed backs that
109:43they have and it's like oh yeah i got blake quorum oh yeah i have mike washington so ollie gordon is is
109:50one of those players added to the list and i see you go malik benson we talked about him earlier pete great
109:57stack nasty work round 29 to go and get a stack with fernando mendoza that's just chef's kiss he's been running with
110:04the ones we hear about it granted you hear a lot of things in training camp so it could be smoke but
110:12again round 29 you love to see it yeah we i figured you'd be excited to see that i had to take
110:19him since i know he's your guy and you know we're just looking for guys with pulses at this point and with
110:26him um you know it's uh it's one of those things where he's competing i guess in the three wide receiver sets
110:33so i i'm just gonna go go with him and and just kind of live with it um i know uh stratt
110:40said i followed dwayne and paulson and they are both on right as the handcuff and i think it happened yeah i
110:47just think right is jalen right was just a exciting pick or uh a player that people really liked in general and
110:54so they're holding out hope that you know the talent and they really like the talent and they're just holding out hope
111:01but i don't know i haven't really heard any buzz around jalen right looking good in camp or doing anything and i
111:08do know that ollie gordon has looked good in camp um again not a superstar ollie gordon no one's saying that but
111:16um i just there's nothing unless i'm missing a report um or you know just missed out on seeing talk about jalen
111:23right um i'm not i'm not totally sure uh he says i'm holding a hope that a chain stays healthy yeah yeah
111:30thank you that that's and buried in all this is like my god just whatever you do god turn off injuries on
111:37madden for devon hn with jalen right my problem my problem with jalen right is the fact that he doesn't seem to
111:44create his own yards he doesn't overcome some situations granted things can be bad for running backs we've seen it occur it
111:51was a dick ass situation last year for ash and janty very tough to have success um but jalen right just doesn't
111:58inspire me from what i see from just the eye test and i remember rookie year just being so hyped all the
112:05speed that was there because from the combine on jalen right looked like a really good pick and we really bought into
112:12that we've been burned but i sit there and i always try to adjust my priors because we got burned on ollie
112:19gordon last year if you recall pete right in about two weeks from now is when ollie gordon was really taken off
112:27remember devon a chance speaking of injuries he had some kind of a calf soreness and there was a huge worry out
112:34there in the hottest name the last couple weeks was ollie gordon now granted things have changed shifted totally but we haven't
112:41seen the ceiling uh i know in the comments they mentioned the 2.8 yards strat cat the 2.8 yards per carry is
112:48tough for ollie gordon so we're hoping we can be one of us can be right i'm looking i'm looking at it
112:55now and and so it looks like in the initial depth chart that uh it looks like right uh was listed as
113:02the rb2 and gordon rb3 um i i am reading here from uh joe shad who said uh you're jalen right as
113:09a slight edge over ollie gordon for the backup spot he said he's faster than gordon he looks really fast right now
113:16and uh right seems to have rejuvenated perspective with a new coaching staff so like i said unless jalen right just comes
113:23back and it's just really good and just got better in the off season i can see it but sometimes with these
113:31camp reports it's really hard um this feels more like vibes and and feel from a a beat reporter than it does
113:38just like straight up analysis of like hey this is this is what my feel is but i could be wrong i
113:45don't know i mean he is listed ahead in the depth chart initially but when the games start and the preseason starts
113:52i think you'll start to see that kind of sift itself out a little bit more and ali gordon might just be
113:59a better game day player than jalen right who might be better in pads where they're not taking guys to the ground
114:06um and he's more of a speedster and so he can kind of shine more in those settings who knows we'll see
114:13um but last pick is coming up jay you know i i was like looking at the board and i was like
114:20there's no way jj mccarthy is going to come back to us right and he he didn't he he went last round
114:27like the second to last pick which is fine um but i'm just looking here tyson you know bajin's kind of interesting
114:34if we want to take a backup quarterback um he's he's the clear-cut guy behind caleb williams um some running backs here
114:42i'll share the tab so the listeners and you can see it as well some running backs is a davis chris books
114:49uh naji devon neal kareem hunt and it's just not really much here alder guesstimate i think is going to be the
114:56rb3 by the way um wide receivers not much i mean trail on burks yeah a trail on burks i have him
115:03in my top 200 i guess i'm a little surprised he's there but i i understand because digs is there now but
115:10i don't know what do you think about burks in round 30 i don't see why you wouldn't press a button on
115:17somebody he has a pulse you're in a viable offense you're tied to jayden daniels and you already have some terry mclaurin
115:24so why not get some more share of war jot we're like joshua palmer you have so many bills man you have
115:31so many bills uh did i get it did i get it oh i don't know yeah i got him i got
115:38him all right trail on burks man we got him you you would have had so much share of the buffalo bills
115:45that i think it was even that far deep it's a little minus evie strat cat said uh great draft guys thanks
115:53for supporting nfc hope to see you guys both in a few more yeah hopefully we see you maybe in one of
116:00our drafts as well um but that this is really kind of wrapping it up jay um let's talk about our team
116:07really quick and then uh let's talk about maybe anything else you got in your mind and then we'll get out of
116:14here um all right let's go to the roster here hold on all right so quarterback wise jay josh allen jackson dart
116:21fernando mendoza we talked about i don't typically take quarterbacks super high but in a format and a tournament like this i
116:28don't mind having some exposure to josh allen if i'm trying to really really win uh you know not just win i'm
116:35not i'm not doing this to win the 800 that i get to win the league jay right i'm looking at all
116:42you know win it all right james cook so i get the stack with alan there trevin henderson jonathan brooks common on
116:49guy kamani vidal mike washington ollie gordon yeah fine with all three of these running backs as the backups i'm fine with
116:57my starters you know there's some boom there's some upside and you know jonathan brooks trevin henderson you know these guys will
117:04kind of piggyback and see saw even monongai between you know my rb2 slot you know depending on who scores highest um
117:11so that's fine malik neighbors to go with dart dj more to go with um josh allen terry mckay lemon trey harris
117:18galen nailer getting the stack there with the raiders uh travis hunter pap riant uh keenan allen troy tori horton uh jeremy
117:25bernard marvin mims malik benson trail on burks um i took the most wide receivers out of everybody i took three more
117:32than most so maybe i'm the fish here in this draft a little bit jay but it's probably because some guys took
117:39five quarterbacks a couple guys took five i took three i'm totally fine with that um and then a lot of it
117:46also comes down to some of these kickers right i mean i don't know i mean we're we've done a couple of
117:53these this this team took six tight ends durham smite tommy tremble drew sample at the end i guess maybe does he
118:00have joe burrow and maybe he doesn't i don't know what the thought process is there but then taking four kickers and
118:08then four defenses i don't know another team did five tight ends four kickers four defenses um me and one other guy
118:15the only two that only has one kicker uh but i'll stack to skill players i'm fine with it uh so interesting
118:22uh strategy to see a lot of these teams taking this many kickers and defenses yeah it might even push us we
118:29can re-examine to next week when i'm clicking the buttons if we should go with a second kicker team if we should
118:36go with three defenses and and try and be a little more aggressive we can mix it up but going back to
118:43the theme of your draft you got a lot of bill stat carry share when you quote unquote not reach but you
118:50pay up for somebody like a josh allen you diversify the build of the amount of bills that you have so great
118:57job there and then malik neighbors until he gets clicked in round one you're getting a free round one player in in
119:04round two granted he's been in round four round three other people will have round advantage on your round two malik neighbors
119:11pick but the ripple effect of do you have james cook malik neighbors josh allen dj moore as a start how unique
119:19is that so there's ripple effects where even though other people have a later round player who jumps up you still have
119:26to get the ripple effect right the rest of the board so i like what you did probably going back the one
119:33crux would be somebody like kyle monongai and travis kelsey where you prefer kelsey but you know what it's wild the amount
119:40of times where you expect and think it's going to be jonathan brooks who pushes you through and then it's all on
119:47the line and kyle monongai is just crushing the way fantasy football is it's sometimes the players you least expect you could
119:54be right about so many takes and then the player who you feel least about and you're kind of wrong on ends
120:01up being a guy like kyle monong guy so it's a fun game that we play it's a fun draft and i
120:08feel like we learn lessons along the way to where we're just going to keep getting sharper and sharper pete yeah absolutely
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