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0:49You heard it here first folks. Mason Dodd is in on Xavier Worthy this year.
0:54Of course we are always in on Xavier Worthy.
0:56I basically, Mason, have decided it's really a sign that all of both like kind of the math-based drafters, the market-based drafters,
1:04people are hip to Xavier Worthy this year. It's not just me.
1:08Now it'll be very curious to see what happens when Stephon Diggs signs.
1:12I really, when Stephon Diggs signs with the Kansas City Chiefs, then we are going to be dealing with some trials and
1:19tribulations in the Xavier Worthy market, I feel. What would you handicap Diggs to the Chiefs?
1:24I mean, I think every day it doesn't happen to me makes it less likely.
1:29Like I think if it was one of the things like if all parties had decided it was going to happen, it
1:36probably would have happened while Rashi Rice was in county lockup in Kansas City.
1:41So the fact that it hasn't happened yet makes me more suspicious.
1:45Yeah, like it's strange that he, because now it makes me feel like, well, maybe he'll go back to the Patriots.
1:52Maybe he's trying to get a huge contract. So maybe he's like, all right, well, let's see what, I don't know, let's
1:59see if the Raiders will give me the bag or something like that.
2:03Yeah, I wonder if like the Dolphins just meaninglessly throw money to either Debo or Diggs.
2:08I mean, Debo actually makes a lot of sense for them because they're going to try and kind of keep everything, I think, close to line of scrimmage.
2:17They're not going to want a ton of like really complex seven step drop things.
2:22But those those two guys, Diggs, Debo, and then if the IU thing ever resolves itself, they are the most guaranteed ADP
2:30risers in the history of fantasy football. Like the AJ Brown rose when we all knew that it was happening.
2:36So I can't imagine how high those guys are going to rise once we know.
2:41All right, we're drafting at the 12 slot here.
2:44So we're going to have to be on the ball with our selections.
2:48What do you generally like to do? Do you just kind of take Jente Cook, Barkley?
2:53Like, do you ever pull up? Do you ever pull a wide receiver up here?
2:58Well, hey, pull up the tool real quick. Have you gone to the latest combos feature on this?
3:04I have not. It just it just shut down on me.
3:08I have to I have to sink it again.
3:11But I will I will pull it up here.
3:14Well, I would be down for Jente H&M. Jente and H&M into that.
3:18I probably am one of the very few people who thinks that there is a path to Miami not being the worst team in football this year.
3:27Very unpopular opinion. But I think there's a little something there with with Malik Willis.
3:32If you look at their projections for this year, obviously they project to be a bottom five offense.
3:37But in comparison to last season, they project score a point and a half per game fewer.
3:43So if that does happen, H&M is going to return value in round two.
3:48I mean, really, I think I would say H&M is going to return value based on where he's going.
3:54If if I if all I knew was that he is playing 17 games because I'm getting a couple pieces of information there.
4:01One, I'm getting the information that the team is good enough that he doesn't get shut down with like a stub toe in like week 13 or whatever.
4:10And I'm getting the information that he stays healthy.
4:13But I mean, we have enough evidence of H&M being on the field that I don't really think like there has there
4:20ever been a time where H&M has been healthy and playing and he hasn't projected as a top 10 player.
4:27I even even last year, right? Even last year when things were it's not like the Dolphins were good last year.
4:34We all kind of knew they were winding the clock down to the end.
4:38And and even in games where the Dolphins were getting blown out, he was still quite good.
4:44Yeah. But if you get the tool loaded up, one thing that's really interesting that you can do here at the turn
4:51now is on the combo section, you can see expected ownership of the rest of the field on player combos.
4:58So like say you take Jinty round one, you can throw Jinty in there and then you can actually see what percentage
5:05of the field should have Jinty paired with H&M Barkley, Chase Brown, Hampton.
5:09So yeah, just hit combos. Then throw Jinty. So obviously we already selected H&M.
5:14So you're not going to see this as much.
5:17I'll show you this when we get to the three, four turn, but you can also throw Devon H&M in here as well.
5:24So throw H&M and I'll show you what it does.
5:27This is pretty nifty. So now you can see that you have Jinty and H&M on 0.7% of your drafts and the
5:35field should expect to have that combo 1.3% of the time, which maybe isn't as valuable as when you're actually on the clock there at the turn.
5:43What I've been doing a lot of times is if I take like Lamb round one and then I go through and
5:51I look at the projected ownership for the early round two guys and see that Chase Brown's supposed to be paired with
5:58Lamb 4% of the time in comparison to say Kenneth Walker at 16% of the time, I'll go ahead and I'll take
6:05Lamb and Chase Brown together, you know, just because I would view them as similar projections.
6:10But I think you're getting significantly more unique compared to the rest of the field.
6:15100%. Now, you know what's what this was is actually I'm realizing going to be really helpful for is for slow drafts,
6:22which I know is not as much of a problem in your life as it is in mine.
6:28But I'm in, I mean, I don't actually even want to show the amount of slow drafts I'm in.
6:34I fear that the community might start to judge me when they see how many slow drafts I'm in.
6:41But that'll be something that'll be really nice to check.
6:44Because honestly, what I do is I just get off the stream or whatever and get done working for the day and
6:51I'll just hammer out like 100 picks in like 10 minutes.
6:55And this will be a nice little thing to just have to pull up and go through.
7:00Can I ask you about flowers real quick? Because I've noticed flowers moving up boards a ton.
7:06It honestly, there are a couple guys like this who are moving up.
7:10It has nothing to do with them. We have to take Josh Allen here, right?
7:15Completely, completely with you. This is like the only time that I take him is when he gets to this turn.
7:22And then I don't really care amongst this group.
7:25I would prefer just one of the simple clicks at the top, either Wilson or Tet.
7:30I know you love Luther Burden, but... No, you know what?
7:33Let's actually take Ladd because I am... Quentin Johnson is on the thumbnail of this one.
7:39But I am so terrified of Ladd McConkie and Justin Herbert and all associated Los Angeles Chargers just absolutely owning me this
7:46year that I need to start building in the protection on that right now.
7:50It's not going to be good. Yeah, I actually just posted on the site like all the sportsbook projections in terms of
7:58the implied team totals in comparison to where the offense has actually scored last season.
8:02And the Chargers project to be one of the biggest improvements from a points-per-game perspective from last year to this year.
8:09Obviously, offensive line and coaching related. I mean, Mike McDaniel is a huge upgrade.
8:14The offensive line was good last year for like the two-and-a-half healthy games they had.
8:19And then they were playing, you know, literally guys off the street.
8:23But I'm just very worried about getting Herbert mugged in the upcoming fantasy football season.
8:28So, going to try and avoid that as much as possible.
8:31Every time I'm on a live stream with you, I feel like you're wavering back and forth.
8:37Like, it's like, this week, anti-Herbert. I don't want any of them.
8:41I am. I mean, on the record, I am anti-Herbert.
8:44But one of the worst scenarios I can imagine is everyone knowing that I'm anti-Herbert, knowing that I don't think he's that
8:51good, knowing that I'm short on the Chargers, and then just watching them rip off 30-point game after 30-point game.
8:58Like, would be unbearable. I mean, nothing will be more unbearable than the 2024 season with Barkley and Henry.
9:04But that could be pretty close. I mean, at least you would have Keaton Mitchell on the sidelines, participating as like a
9:11water boy of sorts, you know, watching all the Chargers players score a bunch of points.
9:16If the Chargers score a bunch of points in general, Keaton, the missile is going to be a big part of that.
9:23I mean, don't you worry about that. The missile is going to be a big, big part of what's going on there.
9:31But the reason why Flowers is rising, I don't really think it has anything to do with him.
9:36The combination of Jacobs falling, Neighbors falling, Rashi Rashi Rice sometimes falling, A.J.
9:41Brown being gone. So there's just another wide receiver.
9:44Like if you need a wide receiver in the middle of that round.
9:48So I think that's what it is. I don't think there's any like piece of news or anything specific about Flowers that
9:55is causing him to rise, which is funny because Lamar's kind of falling.
9:59Yeah. I literally said in my live stream last night, if I was just absolutely guessing, but I was like, Oh, now
10:07that Lamar, you can consistently get them stacked with Flowers.
10:10I wonder if people are more aggressively going after Flowers because the stacks available the way it was in a month ago.
10:17So that is, that's also honestly, that's, that's probably part of it as well.
10:22Because now that, now that you know that you can get there almost every time.
10:26Yeah. This, we also don't want to have this.
10:29I really, Sammy, I also don't want to have 30% of their, of their third running back.
10:35So, you know, I got to be taking some QG.
10:38I take a lot of Gadsden. Gadsden, I think is priced.
10:42Can we double cap for rookie receivers? Yes. You want to do Tyson Tate?
10:46Yeah. Okay. I actually just did a fresh ranking update on the site.
10:51And one of the things I did was move Tate and Tyson like well ahead of, of both of their draft slots.
10:58I think that's a pretty good opportunity there. Like they're going after, honestly just like pretty dusty bats, DJ Moore, Christian Watson, Roma doing say.
11:06Yeah. And like, just in general, like if you compare Tyson and Tate prospects that are comparable to Rome, whereas you see
11:13Rome that's face planted for two years straight now.
11:16It's like, if we can reset with a similar prospect profile of a guy that hasn't face planted, probably a good bet.
11:23And Roman Rome with just like an insanely bearish quote on his foot injury, really, really did not like hearing that.
11:30He's like, you know, it'll never be the same.
11:33And I've had to change the way that I run and change the way that I play.
11:39But like, other than that, dude, it's totally fine.
11:41But yeah, I just made a video about like my, I did, I crossed the hundred draft barrier.
11:47So you should be proud of me. I am.
11:50I am proud of you, man. I'm very, very proud of you.
11:54And I made like a video going through my most drafted receivers, most drafted running backs, least drafted of each position.
12:01And both Tyson and Tate are like top seven for my most drafted receivers at the five, six turn.
12:07These are the guys I pretty much take every time.
12:11I got to think, I got to think they're pretty close for me as well.
12:15I mean, I know burden is still my most drafted, but I know that I've been, cause I, I really liked Tyson as a prospect.
12:24So I was taking him in the pre draft stuff.
12:27I was not taking Tate nearly as often. Where was he going for the pre draft stuff?
12:32He was actually, he was actually just a smidgen more expensive than this.
12:37Tate was in the pre draft stuff. Tyson was significantly less expensive.
12:41Cause there was some doubt that he would actually go first round, which is weird because I know obviously the Tennessee Titans
12:48were horrendous last year, but going back to like projections, looking forward, Tennessee Titans are, I think the second offense in the
12:55league that projects to take the biggest leap forward.
12:58They're still going to be bad. Don't get me wrong.
13:01And there are just so many targets available that I would assume that you get top five NFL draft capital and go
13:08to a team that you have a ton of targets available.
13:12It's like a, I would assume he's more, should be more expensive now.
13:16I think there's a lot of reason to be optimistic about the Tennessee Titans.
13:21A lot of that is, well, do you think cam Ward can play?
13:25Or do you think he can't, um, you know, and, and if you're out on cam Ward, then you're not going to
13:32be that optimistic, but if you were optimistic on him, you're going to feel quite good.
13:37Um, all right, well, we do have Herbert here.
13:40We can be done. We can only take two.
13:43you're right. Double by. Yeah. I've made that mistake so many times, which is literally why with the overlay, we put the
13:50bike, we have the bike there for the QBs.
13:53Cause I've done. All right. For me, I would love Cortland Sutton, Jordan Addison, or one of the receivers in Quinton Johnson.
14:01But when we go zero receivers to the first three rounds, my goal is to play catch up with the wide receiver position.
14:08All right. I took, I took, I took QJ for you and we're going to do Addison because there's a chance that
14:15we're able to nab Kyler at our next pick.
14:18And we double tap running backs to start. I don't build very many teams this way, but I don't mind having double
14:25anchor running back for like some subset of the portfolio.
14:29And we're actually, this is very interesting to me from the tool that with this draft capital spent at quarterback, it's still
14:36a 20% advance rate that I guess, I guess what that means is that in general, there's been a decent amount of
14:43like mega smash seasons from the most expensive quarterback.
14:46I would think look at, look at Josh Allen the past five years, every single year, he's the QB one and plays every game.
14:54I mean, it's pretty, you know? Yeah. Yeah. He's the most expensive quarterback every year.
14:59Yeah. I do think the gap between him and Lamar this year is probably a smidge to our, like, it's very hard
15:06for me to take Josh where he goes, but you know, Lamar DJ more.
15:10I mean, I'm, I'm very comfortable taking Lamar there.
15:13Yeah. Like for me, I think every, I am, I think overweight every quarterback, but burrow in terms of like the elite
15:21guys, I'm definitely, are you underweight on T? I will pass on burrow.
15:25Even when I have T. Yes. Yeah. I, uh, I don't do that very much.
15:30Well, unless I have one of the bears. Cause then, cause I have Caleb.
15:34One thing that's interesting now too, is if you go to the combos tool, throw burrow and T in there and then throw burrow and chase in there.
15:43And you can see the difference with the expected stack ownership.
15:47Burrow and T is expected to be 3.7. So that's, I mean, that's pretty high.
15:52And then compare that to chase. Do you think I, that's going to be lower?
15:57I bet based on where they are on the board, I could be, I could be wrong.
16:02Last I checked chases on half the burrow teams that Higgins is.
16:06So yeah, comparison to 3.7. So I'll, I'll for sure.
16:09Every time I have a chase team and burrow makes it, I'll take them.
16:14Um, and this was just me pointing out something cool.
16:17Like as I go through and play with this stuff, I'm not saying I'm passing on burrow because he's on a lot of T Higgins teams.
16:26Obviously that is the number one burrow stack mainly just because I mean, if we look at rankings in a vacuum, I
16:33have them ranked after every single other quarterback that goes in that round.
16:37I do. I do too. I mean, certainly without a stack, you prefer hurts Jaden Daniels.
16:42Um, I mean, Caleb Williams, I guess that's close.
16:45I wouldn't ever really want to have naked Caleb Williams.
16:49And I wouldn't ever really want to have naked Joe Burrow.
16:52Those, those are scenarios. I just think it's too hard to imagine a winning scenario.
16:57They're the only time like Caleb never goes to a team without a stack unless it's middle around seven, but you have
17:04Rome burden and Loveland, like three teams have to decide to pass on Caleb.
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18:00Depop where taste recognizes taste, which I, I mean, I've been in a lot of these draft rooms and I haven't really seen happen.
18:08It'll be interesting. If people do start to try and push it though, like, Oh, I am going to try and get
18:15Caleb Williams in the, um, in the eighth round or whatever.
18:19Uh, I think we got to take a running back here.
18:23And Kyler did come back to us. For me, it would be golden Kyler, but if you want to take somebody else, I'm fine.
18:31Um, all right, let's take Kyler. And then would be, be done.
18:34Would be, be done with six wide receivers. No, for sure.
18:38Not you'd want to do another one. Oh yeah.
18:41Okay. Then we're going to take my guy, Jonathan Brooks.
18:44Okay. Who I, uh, that was actually one of the biggest moves I made in the rankings today.
18:50I said, I'm not going to fight it. This is the way the wind is blowing there.
18:56We're starting to get the positive news. We're starting to get the positive reports on him.
19:01Um, I would bet without anything happening, like no injury to Chuba Hubbard or anything.
19:06I think that we probably will end up seeing Chuba Hubbard and Jonathan Brooks ADP flip this off season with no, but
19:13with nothing other than camp reporting, not like an injury or any, or just, just buzz.
19:18If that happens, I will draft Jonathan Brooks in zero drafts.
19:22He has nine career touches. Cause he, he tours, he tours ACL, um, in the game, in the game that he came back.
19:29Right. No, yes, obviously. I mean, I think it was two games later.
19:34I don't think it was the first game. I could be wrong.
19:37I think he played, I think he played one game and then towards ACL the following.
19:43Maybe it was the same one. I, I think, I think that sounds right.
19:47I don't exactly remember. I mean, I was drafting Jonathan Brooks at like running back 55 in the pre-draft stuff.
19:54So I, I probably will not be super aggressive on him, particularly in best ball mania where, you know, people have like,
20:01I don't know, 13th round Jonathan Brooks probably in this contest.
20:05So I'm not going to be like taking him.
20:07Like, I don't think I would want to take him over like Jalen Warren, who is just like, I don't know, locked
20:15in 12 and a half fantasy points per game.
20:18But, um, he'll, he'll be a really interesting guy in like redraft stuff.
20:22I mean, I could see him in like an ESPN league.
20:25People just being like, yeah, dude, it was Jonathan Brooks.
20:29He was awesome. I'm taking him in the sixth round.
20:32You're, I think you're way off here. I think the ESPN drafts, there's a 0.0% chance he goes over Chuba.
20:38The only world in which he goes over Chuba is underdog.
20:42Yeah. You know, um, at least in my mind, I, I would be shocked.
20:47I think like, if you actually looked at ESPN drafts two years ago, I remember I had somebody come on the channel
20:54that wanted me to do their ESPN draft with them.
20:57And they were like a famous, like Tik TOK or Instagram reels person, or he was famous, like Viner from back in the day.
21:05And I was like, Oh, this would be cool.
21:08My fiance, I knew who he was. So I just kind of wanted to tell her that I was drafting with him.
21:15And then I did his ESPN home league draft with him.
21:19It was the year Rico Dottle was the starter for the Dallas Cowboys and ESPN drafts.
21:24Rico Dottle was a last round pick. Like the running backs that haven't done anything in those ESPN leagues, they're just simply not going to get drafted.
21:33So it's, there's a whole different world out there, you know, and you never know until you engage.
21:39I mean, I'm going to have to, I'm going to be cranking out some of that stuff this year.
21:45And I think there's going to be, there's going to be a lot for me to learn about the, about the ESPN leagues.
21:52I'll say for like now ESPN ADP is much sharper than it was like two, two, three years ago.
21:58It was horrendous. Now, in my opinion, from at least making like videos and tracking all the ADP and stuff last year,
22:06the worst ADP and redraft leagues is actually now sleeper, which I've actually anecdotally just experienced that.
22:11Yeah. And I don't think it's anything to do with the people that draft on sleeper.
22:16I think just as a platform, I don't know how they calculate their ADP.
22:21I just think they're horrible at it. They don't adjust.
22:24I was going to say, they probably just don't update it.
22:28Do you want to take Dalton Kincaid or Kolo Shakir as our, I would way rather have Kincaid over Shakir.
22:34I'd rather take Andrews over Shakir as well. Okay.
22:37We are going to take Kincaid. Now, if we wanted a running back, it'd be like Woody.
22:43We're not taking a running back here. No chance.
22:46Okay. Give me, give me a, give me a wide receiver then.
22:50Or we have to take a receiver. But I'd rather have Mark Andrews.
22:54Yeah. I'm good. I'm actually quite good with that.
22:57And then this, I'm assuming. Yeah. Definite, definite three tight end team.
23:01Seven wide receiver has the best edge there. And then.
23:04I mean, we're just in the tough part of the game tree with the running backs, which is okay.
23:10Sometimes, sometimes that happens. I think you're stressing about running backs way too much this year.
23:15It's basically all I think about Mason. Just like every, every day I just, I wake up in a cold sweat and
23:23I go, should I be drafting running backs? Should I not be drafting running backs?
23:28Should I be doing. On this team specifically, we go running back, running back out the gate.
23:33And we, and we also take another running back and pick one Oh nine.
23:38Like we are significantly invested into the running back.
23:41Position. Like run, run through our team real quick at wide receiver in comparison to running back.
23:46All right. So we have got Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Ashton, Gentty, Devin, H and Jonathan Brooks.
23:52We have a lad, Jordan Tyson, Carnell Tate, QJ, Jordan Addison, Dalton Kincaid, and Mark Andrews.
23:57I feel worse about our wide receiver and then our running background.
24:01I feel worse about our wide receivers in terms of, can any of these guys be the guy you had to have?
24:08I feel totally fine about that group. Just like basically giving me a bunch of 12, 13, 14 point weeks.
24:15And, and I think it is almost impossible with how sharp ADP is these days.
24:19Like I was trying to think about this the other day.
24:23We run back the 2023 season. I feel like there's no chance.
24:27Pook is an 18th round pick. I feel like with the news cycle and everything now, like he would, he would have
24:34ended up going in all these drafts all the time.
24:37When did the news pick up for Pooka? Cause I remember I had the infamous Pooka tweet that went mega viral.
24:44Me saying that he has zero upside, not interested in drafting him at all.
24:49Nobody's ever had a worse take on the history of the planet.
24:53Right. I don't buddy. I, we could, I could mine.
24:56I could mine the depth for some of mine.
24:59Uh, but like, I don't remember people like pushing me and saying I needed to start drafting Pooka until August.
25:05Like when did the news start coming out about him?
25:09So the big one was that he and Tutu Atwell were both rested in the first preseason game and whatever, I want to say it was Demarcus Robinson.
25:18It might've been someone else, um, played. Now, what if I told you that that year, 2023, my most drafted wide receiver
25:25in fantasy football was a Rams wide receiver who is not Cooper cup and was not Robert Woods.
25:31You, you would have assumed I made a bunch of money that year.
25:35You'd be wrong because it was two, two at.
25:38Well, I jammed, I jammed the shit out of two, two at.
25:42Well, and you know, it's even better in that first game.
25:46Two, two had 13 targets in a hundred yards.
25:49I thought I was right. Mason. I was like, dude, come on.
25:52Like I, I nailed it, dude. Atwell's the deep ball guy.
25:56I nailed it. I was, I felt, I felt so smart.
26:00Uh, turns out, turns out a dude who weighs 155 pounds, not built, not, not built to be a wide receiver.
26:07One of fantasy football. However, Xavier worthy different story.
26:09A hundred, 175 pounds. That's fine. 175. Devonta Smith won a Heisman trophy at 171 pounds.
26:15It's, it's totally fine. There's a word here. Um, so this is still actually some wide receivers here who I don't mind.
26:22Boston. I like Debo is gone. Um, in terms of running back, it's actually quite flat, uh, Hawkinson for a stack.
26:29I, these are some wide receivers. I actually dropped a good bit of though.
26:33Can we go Jonah Coleman for one of the picks?
26:37Yes. I, I like Jonah Coleman. Good with that.
26:39And then we, anybody, but Antonio Williams for me here, anybody, but Antonio Williams.
26:44And I would honestly consider what's tight end. Tight end is in that really gross range.
26:49Strange. Juwan Hawk for the stack. If, um, if I was taking a receiver here, it'd be dribbling or Boston.
26:56Let's do a little, a little Dijon stribbling. So it's, uh, it's like a running joke on, uh, ship chasing and ADP chasing that.
27:04Like we, we basically cannot avoid talking about Dijon stribbling.
27:07We we've had like me and Corrine and Jacob have had like, probably I would guess if, if our producer cut it
27:14all up and just made like a mega cut, we probably could have a three hour show about Dijon stribbling.
27:21Sitting in there. What exactly is there to talk about?
27:24What are the talking points? Well, he's terrible, but he was the 33rd overall pick, but he also was 33rd overall for
27:31a team that makes the worst picks of all time.
27:34All the time. Like how Shanahan has some of literally the word, like probably the worst running back pick of all time is trading up for Joe Williams.
27:43And he never plays an NFL game. Um, that, that, that is, that's kind of an all timer.
27:49Um, I mean, there, there was, do you remember the Dante Pettis season?
27:54Yeah. Like he led the entire NFL in yards after catch, which is crazy stat.
27:58And then, um, I remember he was, uh, Oh, one of the fantasy football ballers.
28:03I don't, I don't remember. I don't remember which one, but he was like his like poster boy for the year.
28:10He was like Dante Dante Pettis was like his must have.
28:14I want to say he maybe even got waved in the middle of that season.
28:19Like just like in all, but there's so many guys like that.
28:23Danny gray, third round pick never played. Um, yeah, it's, there's a lot to talk about with the 49ers.
28:29Cause Kyle Shanahan is a crazy person. Hey, can I give you some unsolicited advice here for the stream?
28:35We just with the tool. One thing that I've noticed that I think users actually like a lot is the underdog UI
28:42is pretty bad when it comes to like showing the available players to draft.
28:47But if you tab over to the rankings and then just expand it out a bit.
28:52And then what I do is I try to put it in the space.
28:57That's not going to cover a bunch. So what I would do if I were you, since you have that top section,
29:04I would slide it above where it's not covering the draft board, you know, cause obviously you want to show as much
29:11of the draft board as you can at all times.
29:14And then, yeah, like, um, slide that up and you can even sort it by your rankings by clicking your head.
29:21And this will give like viewers an actual view of like the players that are available, you know, so they can be a little more engaged.
29:30This, this is how, this is why they pay Mason, the big bucks, man.
29:34Cause I, I, I kind of just fiddle around with it and I never really know where to put it.
29:41Um, it's beautiful. Wow. Danny doesn't even have Aaron Rogers ranked bro.
29:45Yeah. Danny needs to go through and we need to tell him to hit the sink with underdog.
29:50I think he's just manually putting these in monkey style.
29:54Well, or is he, is he doing, are these his redraft rankings?
29:58No, these are his underdog rankings. Yeah. He sent me a picture of his different underdog draft every single day going, well, look at this one.
30:06Um, all right, we are up. And now, uh, you like Gunnar Helm.
30:10Let's take him. I do. I do like Gunnar Helm.
30:14Um, and then I'm down with Singleton. I'm down with Katron Allen.
30:18I'm down with the receiver. Let's do, let's do Gunnar.
30:21And then let's do Katron. Katron, a guy I'm trying to work in a little bit more because I am drafting a lot of Corey Krosky merit.
30:30And that'll be a painful one to get wrong.
30:33Um, if, if the sixth round rookie ends up taking his job, can I, um, what's it called?
30:38Ask you, are you saying, I'm assuming we're on the same page.
30:42We're going wide receiver, wide receiver here at the end.
30:46Yes. Yeah. I mean, let me, let me check the, uh, let me check the tool.
30:51Uh, Oh no. Did I drag it? See, this is what happens.
30:55I drew, I drug it too high. So now I have to go move it again in a different tab.
31:01Cause I have the, so because at the top of my, at the top of my screen, I have a bar that
31:08shows the sharing this tab to stream yard. So you don't know because you're, you're living the OBS life.
31:15Yeah. I actually just got a new computer. So I set everything up.
31:19That's different for a stream. And I did my first like $500 live draft yesterday.
31:24And Sunday night streams are by far and away the biggest streams just because everybody's done with the weekends.
31:30They're at home getting ready for work the next day, you know, but they need something.
31:35Yeah. Um, so I had like 1400 concurrence through the first draft I did on stream yesterday and my wifi, my new
31:42computer cut it off and shut the stream down.
31:45But I was probably gonna have like 1700 concurrence.
31:48The on a stream. That's the beginning of June.
31:51Like, um, the people are hungry. I know I, underdog drafts feel like they are bigger than ever.
31:57Yeah, no, they, they are. Uh, okay. So if we do, I mean, honestly, we're kind of breaking even between seven and eight.
32:05Um, very, very small sample sizes here. Yeah. I'm for sure going eight here.
32:09That's what, I mean, that's what the two, two, five, eight, three.
32:13So I'm good. I'm good with that. Uh, my dude, it's just been the theme of the summer.
32:19My, my power went out for like three minutes earlier, uh, today.
32:23It just, it just keeps happening. There's no, there's no stopping it.
32:27Yeah. Well, hopefully, um, hopefully it's good to go.
32:30I was talking with chat to be T trying to figure out why it was.
32:35And of course it just, I needed to unplug my wifi and plug it back in.
32:40Then everything was back. I would, I would assume as a lifelong work from Homer, you would be really, really good at resetting your router.
32:48That's kind of like, that's kind of like a one day one stuff.
32:52I have good, I have good like AT&T fiber.
32:55So I never have any problems, you know? Yeah.
32:58I have, I have like, I have like industrial strength internet.
33:02I have, I have like a thousand upload for, for, for streaming fantasy football drafts.
33:07That's how it is. Like Austin, I don't know why.
33:10I mean, I guess they just let the companies come in and do whatever the hell they want.
33:16But like everything is zoned where my house, I can get the highest Google fiber, the highest AT&T fiber.
33:22And that's how it's been like every apartment that I've lived in Austin too.
33:27It's like, um, the thousand upload 3000 uploads all available.
33:30And why would you not, why would you not pay for it?
33:34Um, all right. So we are set at everything except for wide receiver.
33:38Zachary branch and Adnan Mitchell are my two most draft.
33:41I would prefer not to go with another rookie receiver considering we have running.
33:46No, I agree. I agree. So I would be down for like Malik Washington.
33:50We have the week 17 bring back if that matters at all.
33:54Um, and then just thinking of like, I mean, I'd be down for Keon Coleman for a weird team like this.
34:01Just trying to think of like veterans that in theory, if things break, right could be scoring points early.
34:07Um, I'm, I think both of these guys meet that criterion.
34:11Cause I think, I assume that Keon is going to play ahead of Skylar bell to start the year.
34:17I don't know. Um, I don't know if he plays at all last year decided to play.
34:23God knows who ahead of him. It's true. All right.
34:26How do we do here? Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Ashton, Jente, Devin, a chain, Jonathan Brooks, Jonah Coleman, K Tron Allen.
34:33I mean, that, that is one of the running back rooms of all time.
34:37It's it's honestly, this team is going to go as Devin, a chain goes.
34:42If a chain is healthy and, and smashes, we are golden.
34:46Yeah. The thing is like when you start running back, running back, the team hinges on those two top guys.
34:52And then effectively all we need is one of those like Jonathan Brooks to give us, um, spot starts through the season.
34:59And then one of K Tron Allen or Jonah Coleman to hit.
35:03And then obviously, I think what this team hinges on most is the rookie wide receivers.
35:08We took with Tyson and Tate. And if they actually have the upside to do something in the final three weeks.
35:15Yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm assuming that Tyson and Tate are going to be good from the jump.
35:21Like I I'm assuming they're both going to be starters from the jump.
35:26Um, when will there be a deposit match offered by UD?
35:29I mean, first off, you're better off asking Mason.
35:32I will say generally they, they generally do at least one during the fantasy football off season.
35:38And, and it'll generally be for everyone. And it's normally pretty big.
35:42I think it's, it's generally up to, um, $500 of a deposit match, but I don't know.
35:47We'll see. I have no information whatsoever. I'll, I'll just see something on Twitter and then remember to tell my live stream,
35:54like, Hey, make sure y'all take advantage of this.
35:57All right. B, B grade here. B plus advancement, B minus B plus for, uh, for uniqueness.
36:03That, that feels, that feels about right. What I've noticed is it's easier to get, better grades for me, especially from a
36:10uniqueness and like an ADP value perspective. Um, when you're picking in the middle of the draft, cause just the board, especially
36:17in the early rounds, um, more than it will at the turn.
36:21And, um, like, whereas if you're at one, two, or if you're at 11, 12, a lot of those starts are very similar.
36:29So you're kind of forced to have a chalk start or you're forced to reach and pull a player up.
36:35That way you can have a combo that the rest of the field doesn't.
36:40However, if you're like picks five, six, seven, eight, I mean, you could get a fall or anywhere in those first four
36:47picks that gives you a pretty unique field in comparison to normal drafts.
36:51I mean, pretty unique start. That, that actually, that makes a ton of sense.
36:56Um, yeah, which is, I generally kind of like drafting on the turn cause it, it sort of removes the shackles of ADP from you.
37:04You, you are a little bit more comfortable just trying stuff.
37:08Can you real quick show that team at one?
37:10What the hell did they do to get that bad of a grade?
37:15Actually, that's that team at one was a team that was in my $500.
37:19He's a legend. Yeah. Renegades is a legend. And he took two wide receivers in the first like 11 rounds.
37:26His two wide receivers were like Cortland Sutton, Ricky Pierce.
37:29All he had like six RBs, um, two quarterbacks and Trey McBride before he took his third wide receiver after Sutton and Pierce.
37:37So I was like, what is this? And also that team graded out horribly last night, but Renegades will be Renegades.
37:4388 will be with you in all of your high stakes drafts throughout the, the, he will, I think, I believe he maxes the big dog.
37:52He he's a, he's a legend of the high stakes, best ball streets.
37:56I mean, ripping off the Alec Pierce, um, you know, the unstacked uncorrelated Dak Prescott unstacked uncorrelated bone X.
38:02Just, is there a method this year? Like, have you talked to this person?
38:07I do. I do not know this person. No.
38:10Um, I, maybe they might be, they might be a viewer of best ball content.
38:15If so, I have no, I have no relationship other than, I believe every big dog I did last year, he was also in.
38:23So I would think he probably is watching because he knows when he knows when to get in, um, the drafts.
38:29Actually, you know what? PD and, and Mason, I should, I should introduce you guys.
38:34PD is the, is the man behind BBMDB. And while I was thinking might be, might be cool for, uh, for BBMDB
38:42to be a part of the flock fantasy family or have it available on the site.
38:47No idea if you're interested, no idea if he is interested, but that's been one of the things kicking around in the back of my mind.
38:55Well, I was telling the devs that that best ball page once the season starts effect is effectively going to go dead.
39:02You know, um, we got to figure out what we're going to do with it.
39:07Oh, I might, I might've finally been stumped. Juman Moore, I believe.
39:11It was a central Michigan Chippewa. That could be, that could be wrong.
39:16I, they, they always try and, they always try and stump me.
39:19On where obscure NFL players went to college. No, he was Mizzou.
39:23All right, there you go. I've been stumped. I've been stumped.
39:27That was a wild guess. Yeah. Pretty specific. Pretty, pretty specific.
39:31Um, all right, Mason. Well, I'm going to hop into another one.
39:34Uh, you gotta, you gotta head out. Actually, I'm not even going to tell people what you're heading out for, but you
39:42guys, you guys will see what Mason is heading out for, uh, on, on YouTube very soon.
39:47And you guys will, you guys will really like it.
39:50Um, streaming, streaming tonight. Or are you, are you flying to New York to pay, uh, $7,000 for a Nick's first ticket?
39:58That's something I didn't like looking at the tickets in San Antonio or like 600, $700 tickets in New York or like 7k.
40:05I'd like, obviously I've grown, I've never lived in New York or under, like, I don't know what New York money is really like, but dear God.
40:14Have you been, have you been to New York?
40:17I went to New York for the first time two years ago when my fiance was filming Happy Go More 2.
40:24Um, and then I went back again last year for like the BDGE flag football game trivia tournament thing.
40:30But, um, so I've only been twice visiting and it wasn't for me.
40:34I can see people like it, but it wasn't for me.
40:38It was also not for me. I went, um, I went with Peter.
40:42Actually, we, we went, um, because we became buddies with, uh, Patrick Laird who played for the dolphins.
40:48Yeah. I remember working into the tech cast like years ago and y'all had them on.
40:53And they were, they were playing the giants week 17 and we, we met up with, uh, Corrine and stuff there.
41:00And the experience of like, first off the city is just, I I'm from a small town in Kansas.
41:06Like it was way too much for me. I stayed in like a little like pod hotel.
41:12I took this away, but actually I was working for, uh, I was doing live TV then.
41:17And the company that I was working remote for was in New York.
41:22So I like went up into the studio and like actually did the show live and stuff, which, which I mean, that part was really cool.
41:30That part of like being on like a live set and all that stuff was, um, was really cool.
41:36But like walking around New York city after, cause Peter left, like Peter went home and I was still there for another night.
41:44So I was like, I'm literally alone in the city right now.
41:48And I was like, definitely not. I was like legitimately scared.
41:51I was like, this is crazy, dude. Like I could get, I can get lost down here.
41:57Well, that's what I walking. One thing that I noticed is the first five seconds we were there.
42:03Like my, we were walking to my fiance, like my brother-in-law's apartment that we were going to stay in.
42:09see a family of rats, Curie by, you know, I'm like, okay.
42:13Oh no, this, this is, Oh, this is a bad like starting point.
42:17And then we walked down the street and I like, look at my fiance.
42:22I'm like, you can't walk on this street by yourself.
42:25When I'm, when I'm going, when I leave here, you gotta find somewhere else.
42:29You gotta, you gotta find somebody. Yes. No, I, and I'm sure that for people who live in New York or who
42:37live in big cities, like that's just life. And you take the subway and you just like, whatever, like that's just existence.
42:44You just do it. But like, I'm from a town of like 40,000 people, man, like public transport.
42:50No, don't have it. Like no restaurants are open after 9.
42:53PM. It is, it was, it was a lot to take in.
42:57Well, I'm from, from the San Antonio suburbs. Our celebration, winning a basketball game is getting in our cars and honking.
43:04We know. Where is tarot off? Oh, my hair.
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44:27Protect yourself now at Aura.com slash remove. Actually, I've got another good one about a basketball game.
44:32So the year that the Warriors were going to go 72-9 or 73-9 and break the record, they were playing in Oklahoma City.
44:40That's about four hours from where I went to college.
44:43I was like, guys, we got to go. Everyone's like, I'm broke.
44:47Can't do it. Not doing it. I'm like, I'm not.
44:50This isn't, I got, I'm doing it. So I, I drove down by myself.
44:55It's like, I'm doing it. I'm going. Greatest regular season game of all time.
44:59Durant gets, Durant gets ejected. Steph Curry makes like a 40 foot buzzer beater.
45:04It goes to overtime. Incredible. My phone dies. And I don't know where I parked.
45:09I'm in downtown, downtown Oklahoma City. It probably took me, it probably took me only about 90 minutes to get back to
45:16my car, but it was like, I was sweating Mason.
45:19I was like, I don't, I do not have a plan.
45:23If this goes South right now, I got, I got no plan.
45:27Well, that's hilarious. Thanks for having fun in your next draft, my guy.
45:31Yep. All right. Take it easy. That's it. All right, boys, let's hop in and do.
45:36You know what? We're just going to hop into another one.
45:40And then when Neil pops on, he can, he can, he can get about 60% equity of the team.
45:46If you think that digs reek Debo, IUC played all this year, are they not way more likely to make a weekly
45:53lineup than any other late pick barring injury? Every last three picks is a zero any away.
45:59Well, digs, I think is 100% playing this year.
46:02Reek, I think is like, 40% playing this year, but there's going to be a lot of zeros in there because Tyreek,
46:09I think wouldn't really be able to play any earlier.
46:12I would guess it would be like November at the earliest for Tyreek.
46:16Debo, I think is 100% playing. IUC, my, my number on IUC is getting low.
46:21My number, my number for Brandon IUC is getting low.
46:24What do you, what do you guys think? I mean, if you're watching this on replay, let me know right now, handicap,
46:32handicap, the odds that you think Brandon IUC plays football this season.
46:36I think my current, my current estimation would be it's 37% likely that Brandon IUC plays this year.
46:4130, 37% is the current number. I would not go any higher than that.
46:46I don't feel that strongly about it. Yeah, I, I, I don't feel, I don't feel that strongly.
46:52It's just like, Oh, a lot of ways that one goes wrong.
46:56All right. So in this draft, best ball mania, we are drafting out of the 10 slot.
47:01Thank you to Mason for hopping on with us.
47:04Uh, Neil or field will be on very, very soon.
47:08Plus six 50 Dino says he plays this year.
47:10Joseph says 43% for IUC Quincy says Keenan Allen is more likely to play than IUC.
47:16McHale says he's out. Uh, don't think IUC is going to play.
47:20Um, you know what we, Quincy, we might do some world pops at the end.
47:24It will depend on the vibes. Not going to say yes.
47:28Not going to say no. I think the odds of IUC not playing or being effectively as zero, even if he signs is somewhere greater than 80%.
47:37It's very, very hard to take Brandon. IUC. I agree.
47:40I minus one 10. Okay. Mark, if you think it's minus one 10 that he plays, you need to be drafting Brandon.
47:47IUC in every draft. Cause I would say, I would say he's basically the single best pick in fantasy football.
47:54Um, if you, if you are that confident in it, 30% he plays 100% he plays poorly.
47:59So that I would, that I would disagree with.
48:02Uh, not so narrow cast says, it depends on how professional the commies organization is.
48:07I mean, I don't think of them as being that professional.
48:11Uh, all right, we're going to start with one, Mr.
48:14CD lamb, a pick 10 in our second BBM.
48:17Uh, no one likes IUC enough to give up a seventh round pick.
48:21Uh, well, I, I think they will. I bet I, if, if IUC says I will play, I think they will.
48:28I think they will. I think the trade will get done.
48:32That's my, that's my guess. All right. Wow. Barkley Bowers at the turn.
48:36All right. Well, lamb and Walker. Don't mind if I do, let's check that in the combo to a lamb and Walker.
48:43How does the grading system work with the Sims?
48:46I say grading the teams. I'm so curious how they generate those grades and what's being factored in.
48:52Well, these are not Sims. Um, this is a, this is a slightly different product, but the way that the grades are
48:59calculated, let me, let me turn the little duck logos on.
49:03Um, so the way that the Sims are calculated is based on the real time ADP value that a team gets.
49:10So how many ADP values you get on a significant team, how well the players you drafted and the costs at which
49:17you drafted them compared to the historical advance rate data and how unique those combinations are based on our projections.
49:23So for example, I have 3% of my teams have CD lamb.
49:27That's really, really high. 3% of my teams have CD lamb and Kenneth Walker.
49:321% of the field is expected there. Um, one of my favorite late round darts is K Sean booty.
49:38Um, I, I, I never take K Sean booty.
49:41I, I am not interested in K Sean booty really in any scenario.
49:45I'm not really interested in him on the giants.
49:48I'm not interested in him on the Eagles, not interested in him on the Patriots.
49:53Maybe I would be slightly, slightly interested. Tell you what, here's, here's a spot.
49:58I could be interested. I could be interested in K Sean booty.
50:02If he was a Raider, if he was a, he was a last round pick for the Raiders.
50:07I could be, I could be interested in that.
50:10That's a, that's about it. I do. I do.
50:13I do like tank Dell. Um, I, I probably am a little bit light on Dell in my rankings.
50:19Um, I've got Dell at one 88, so I could move them up a little bit higher than that.
50:26I think tank Dell, Christian Kirk and Tyree kill are the best last picks for wide receiver.
50:31I disagree with that. Um, I think Dell is fine.
50:34I think Kirk is probably trending towards being bad.
50:37I think some of the best last round picks of wide receiver.
50:41I liked on Tavian Wicks. I like Malachi fields.
50:44Um, Brazil is pretty good. Pat Brian is okay.
50:47I don't, I, I like both the, the late Baltimore guys.
50:51Um, Lane answer at crane has really been selling me on.
50:54Surrat. I like tank Bigsby as well. Uh, I like never take Michael Wilson.
50:59Um, how much Michael Wilson do I have? I'm going to, I'm going to guess the answer to this is like almost none.
51:06Uh, Oh, less more than I thought. 8.3% of Michael Wilson, but I, I'm just kind of, I'm kind of out on Michael Wilson, honestly.
51:15So that number is probably going to come down.
51:18All right. We are about to be on the clock at pick 34.
51:22Rashi rice is available. And Malik neighbors is available.
51:25Um, man, I, I think I'm just going to take Rashi rice.
51:29Just, uh, just fading a prison sentence there. My most right wing take might be that.
51:34I don't think cup is a bad 18th round pick.
51:37I, I believe our friends at, uh, at established the run and legendary upside have Cooper cup as pretty draftable, you know,
51:44uh, key on Coleman honestly is, is not terrible.
51:47Uh, I, I do not take, I do not take Devon Bailey, Devon Bailey, not on the menu for me.
51:54Um, yeah, not, not doing, not doing that. Don't take too much.
51:58Ty Johnson, Ty, Ty Johnson would be more, I think of a draft Kings pick would be where I would be interested in taking.
52:06Ty Johnson, but not really that interesting because the, the upside on Ty Johnson is so low.
52:11Okay. Let's do, I mean, T's kind of interesting here.
52:14Tet could be okay. Um, Hmm. You know what?
52:17Let's do something a little weird. Let's take Colston Loveland ahead of ADP.
52:22Now I close. Okay. There it goes. It's up in the, it's up in the left corner.
52:27Uh, there we go. All right. So we've got CD lamb, Ken Walker, Rashi rice and Colston Loveland.
52:33Troy Franklin is the best late round wide receiver that I disagree with.
52:37Uh, can't believe I'm saying this, but I've taken some JJ McCarthy.
52:41I have, I've not done any of that. Uh, I do like brazzle.
52:45Am I crazy for thinking Bryce Lance has amounts to being a viable late pick?
52:50No, I, I, I take him some on draft Kings, not as much on underdog booty is a good player.
52:57I feel bad that he's left out of the Pat's plans.
53:00Um, no, I don't think he's very good. Hey, lots of, lots of differing opinions out there though, where she cures being drafted.
53:08I think he's the best pick as the board.
53:11Yeah. Uh, really, really, really couldn't. I, I've just, I never take close to cure.
53:16I don't think he's any good. Also coming back from the tightrope procedure on his ankle.
53:21So he, and, and he got replaced by DJ Moore inside of his offense.
53:26Thoughts on Skylar bell. Good player. I really, I quite liked him at UConn.
53:30He's old though. He's going to be playing 20.
53:33He's going to be 24 as a rookie. Uh, I really like selecting Adonai Mitchell.
53:38I mean, I'm not gonna, I'm not going to talk you into key on Coleman, but I think he probably is, um,
53:45the out, you know, the, I think he's probably the, the, the day one boundary receiver or the bills.
53:51I feel like the best route in the late rounds is mixing up rookie wide receivers.
53:57I would say this is basically my strategy right now.
54:00I basically just like, you know, between brazzle and, and, um, Dom Tavian wicks and Elijah Surratt and Jacoby lane and all
54:07these guys, I kind of just mix and match between them.
54:11Baltimore wide receiver room is wide open after flowers.
54:14Yeah. Bateman. I think you can take my, my guy coop last week was in on Bateman.
54:19Pats will use AJ Brown. Like he should have been used.
54:23And then after that booty will be an afterthought.
54:26I mean, I don't even think he's going to play for the Patriots.
54:30He's not even at, um, training camp. So the tool stew, the tool is currently, I would say it's about halfway to working on draft Kings.
54:38I would need to talk to the developer, Joe.
54:41So basically he was able to get the core of the tool synced up with how the draft King stuff works.
54:48But then they had a, you know, flock is a fog is a big, big website.
54:53Uh, and, and they don't have that many, uh, they have a lot more customers than they do devs.
55:00So they were working on one of the redraft tools last week, but the, the DK tool will be coming along, uh,
55:07over the course of the off season, but it should get figured out.
55:11Uh, I do take a little Chris bell. I'm not like over the moon about it.
55:16Honestly, Dulcich is the one that I like to take there.
55:20Oh, this is, look at this dude. A little bit, a little bit of by shell toot and Ken Walker, by shell
55:27toot and lamb, rice, and love one. I am, I'm cooking with absolute gasoline here.
55:32Uh, no Odell Beckham for me. I don't, I don't take any, I don't take any Nick Westbrook a keen.
55:38No. All right. Well, I actually would have taken, I would have taken Bucky.
55:43Tyson's good. BTJ is good. Could just go ahead and take Caleb.
55:47What are the odds that I get? Dak or my homes.
55:50Pretty good. All right, let's do, let's do BTJ on this one.
55:54Could have, could have taken Caleb Williams there, but it's, uh, it's fine.
55:59Would you ever consider drafting Kevin Coleman in the last round on a Malik Willis team?
56:04Yeah. Yeah. I think I would. Again, that's probably, that's probably more of a draft Kings thing than an underdog thing, but I would, I would consider it.
56:13Uh, in Joku will be a top 10 tight end multiple weeks.
56:17I, I, I also really disagree with that, that, that I don't think is going to happen.
56:22Feels, feels very unlikely. I mean, David and Joku couldn't be a top 10 tight end last year.
56:28So I don't know. I don't know how he would figure it out this year, but always, always possible.
56:35This represents how I feel about the Miami last round clicks.
56:38I have about 1.4% of all of them. I don't, I don't particularly like any of them, but they're all kind of okay.
56:46No, I, I, I mean, I wouldn't say I've been smashing Gadsden, but I do still take a Rondé Gadsden.
56:52I think that David and Joku's time in the sun for the Los Angeles chargers is probably over now.
56:58I mean, Dave, David and Joku, like we, we saw the guy last year.
57:03He just doesn't, he just doesn't really have much juice left.
57:07David and Joku. Let me pull up his player card.
57:10It is one of the coolest things actually about the tools.
57:13You can pull these up on the site. So David and Joku scored 7.19 fantasy points per game last year.
57:20Uh, he had one. Well, he had three games as a tight end.
57:24One, no games is a top five tight end in 2024.
57:28He had one, two, three, four, five, six games as a tight end one.
57:32So actually pretty decent. Then I just think the issue is, is his knees have probably left him.
57:38Is it going to be the issue there? Washington will overtake BTJ.
57:42I mean, he definitely will in ADP. Uh, I do.
57:45I really like Greg Dolcich. I've, I've got Greg Dolcich banged up in my rankings.
57:50Yeah, I, I agree in Joku in Joku to me is, is probably cooked.
57:55I think we've seen, I think we've seen the end of, seen the end of David and Joku as a starting tight end.
58:02If David, if David and Joku was probably a, if like, I guess my read is that if David and Joku was
58:10still good, he probably would have followed Stepanski. Right?
58:12I mean, I mean, isn't that really the simplest explanation?
58:16Like if, if Stepanski still thought in Joku was a good player, in Joku would be the second tight end in Atlanta.
58:23All right. We are going to take Patrick Mahomes with this pick.
58:27And then this is a weird part of the draft.
58:30Maybe we take Herbert to backstack Herbert, double Herbert stream, double Herbert stream could happen.
58:35Or do I take Lawrence? I've got the double Jacksonville thing.
58:39Maybe that's what I do. Maybe we do. Maybe we do double, double Jags, double chiefs.
58:44Miami is so up in the air with Willis hard to be high or low.
58:49I do. I mean, if the Miami thing works out, if the Willis thing works out, we are going to be feeling
58:56very, very stupid for not being more in a Malik Willis that, that much, that much.
59:01I definitely know to be true. We are going to feel very silly for not taking guy who projects for like 140 rushing attempts.
59:09He, he could, he could set the record. Uh, for sure.
59:13We'll be doing at least probably two more drafts, Ollie.
59:16I would think. Um, all right, let's do. Yeah.
59:19You know what? We're just going to rip in Lawrence.
59:22So we have my homes, Lawrence, Ken Walker, by shell toot and CD lamb, Rashi rice, BTJ and Colston love one.
59:29I I'm going to assume the tool does not love this start.
59:33Uh, yeah, only 16% advance rate, even with three quarterbacks.
59:36Uh, Ooh, 21% advance rate with five running backs though.
59:39If we get to seven receivers, 20% advance 0.10% finals, uh, and definitely three tight ends, 18%.
59:45Okay. All right. All right. All right. Yes. This is a best ball mania draft, which of your hard fade, players do
59:52you think are most likely to come back and beat you?
59:56Uh, I'm not very worried about DJ more beating me.
59:59I would be, I would be more worried about McLaurin because one of the reasons that I was fading McLaurin is that
60:06I thought they would get this deal done for Brandon.
60:09I use, and it's seeming like Brandon. I use is closer to not being a charger or sorry, a commander.
60:16Have any BBM winners used an overlay tool? Um, I would assume Sam Sherman did last year.
60:21Um, I would assume, I mean, BBM, BBM three winner, Patrick Corain developed an overlay tool.
60:27So, you know, do with that what you will.
60:30Um, I don't know anything about L grew. I don't know anything about, um, for read if he used any tool or rankings or anything like that.
60:38Uh, there is data on advanced rate on teams strapped to before June or July.
60:43And, and there's, it's all the same. It's all the same.
60:47Where would I realistically take DJ more? I would take DJ more in this range, the Parker Washington, Marvin Harrison, Jr., Makai Lemon, Alec Pierce range of drafts.
60:56Uh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if Sherman was using the ETR tool or not.
61:02Um, I, I have, I have no idea, but I know he was using the right.
61:07I mean, the tools are very, very new. I think two years ago was the first time they existed in like a marketed way, but unclear.
61:15Uh, wow. What a, what a gift for everyone here.
61:19One, Mr. Neil or field, Neil, welcome. Welcome to the program.
61:22Thank you. Yeah. I just, uh, just got back from the gym.
61:26My glasses are, I can't tell if they're dirty or fogged up.
61:30From the juxtaposition of heat outside and cold inside.
61:33But, uh, yeah, happy to be here. Midway through a draft looks like.
61:37Uh, yeah. What Mason and I, we, we absolutely zoomed through and you know what?
61:42You just showed up Neil. So you know what we're going to do in honor of you joining this team.
61:49We're, we're just going to rip in 20 spots ahead of ADP.
61:52Jonathan Brooks in the ninth round. It's three spots at AP at this point.
61:57Well, it's, I tell you what, when we do ADP chasing tomorrow, I would think that, uh, Jonathan Brooks is probably going to be the number one riser.
62:06He's up there. AJ Brown still probably going to be up there when you do.
62:11I don't know if he was there already last week.
62:14He was not, he was not quite yet. Cause it had just happened on, on Monday.
62:20Um, all right. So Neil, you're not going to believe this, but the team that you did just walk into is a
62:27chiefs double stack and a Jaguars double stack Mahomes Lawrence Walker, Tootin Brooks, lamb rice, BTJ and Colston Loveland.
62:33That's it. That's honestly pretty sick. I like that.
62:36It's honestly, it's honestly a pretty good team. So you, you can walk in and you know what?
62:42We're just, we're going to give you your full 50% equity.
62:45Cause I started this draft early cause Mason left early.
62:49Um, which one of these wide receivers do you want?
62:52Pittman or golden Pittman for me. Yeah. Most probably the most shocking, thing about my portfolio is that Michael Pittman jr.
62:59Is on my, um, my first tab of exposures at wide receiver.
63:03Wait, say that again. Like when I look at my exposure for wide receivers, I don't have to scroll to get to Michael Pittman jr.
63:11His, his name is just right there. I think that would be true for me if I was not always taking wide,
63:18sorry, quarterbacks or Jonathan Brooks in this range. I just always, I'm getting a quarterback or I'm getting Jonathan Brooks.
63:25I have the, I have the slapiest it's, it's burden.
63:28Zachary branch, Xavier worthy, Travis honor, rushy rice, Jordan Tyson, Justin Jefferson, Adonai Mitchell, Makai lemon, Jalen Waddle, Casey Concepcion, Matthew golden.
63:35Oh, I actually chased. I, this must've just happened.
63:38I just chased Michael Pittman jr. Off the top page with, we'll be back.
63:42We do. We just got him. So come back.
63:45So I've got what, uh, 76 Matthew golden teams and 69.
63:49Now 70 Michael Pittman jr. Team. So pretty, pretty close.
63:52Nice. Uh, I, uh, what's your Keaton Mitchell exposure looking like?
63:56Oh, Oh God. I hope I don't get, I hope I don't get Keaton mogged.
64:01Uh, 21%, 125 teams. You've definitely got me beat.
64:04Uh, JJ Zacharyson told me on the pod last week that he's got over 40%.
64:09Keaton Mitchell. So he's Keaton mogging you, but I, I'm, I'm trying to catch up.
64:13I am trying to catch up. Cause I just feel like he's going to move up.
64:19He's one of those players. Anytime the sidekick recommends Woody marks for me, I just take it Mitchell instead.
64:25Cause I don't think Woody marks is moving anywhere.
64:28He's not moving up there. What do you, but what he marks isn't moving anywhere, including on the football field.
64:34Um, he's some guy in Pete stream said he had 80% Keaton.
64:38All right. I've been, I've been Keaton mugged. You probably have more, you probably have more shares than anybody though.
64:45Like they have more percentage of their portfolio, but you're drafting so many teams who will draft as many teams as you.
64:52Who's also getting as much Keaton Mitchell. It's a great point because sack and shady are probably, the two guys who I
64:59would say are certainly going to have more teams than me.
65:03And they are not drafting the 180 pounds scat back behind them.
65:07Our ain't Hampton very much. I don't think. I noticed Corrine said on your, one of your pods last week that he
65:14thinks he's going to do as many drafts as you this year, or he's going to be like close to you, which is a big uptick for him.
65:23He was like in the same range as me last year.
65:27I think. I think Corrine has finally joined me in slow draft central.
65:31And, and once you, once you realize that, all right, let's pick here real quick.
65:36I mean, digs, I think is a jam. Um, none of these things.
65:40So like these, we have the staff. I'm going to do, I'm going to do digs.
65:45We can, we can take Hunter as well. Actually, this specific group of tight ends is the most unexpired, uh, non-inspiring group of guys of all time.
65:54Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, likely Dallas Goddard. I'm just like, what's the, what's the point?
65:59So I feel like I felt the same way last year about like this same kind of range of tight ends.
66:06And then when the season is actually going on, it's like, I'm so glad I've got Dallas Goddard.
66:12It's like, you feel so good about having that tight end as opposed to like the 18th rounder.
66:18Yeah. You know what? Turns out Dallas Goddard, just a better fantasy football.
66:22Option than Gunner Helm. I mean, who, who could have possibly, um, predicted, uh, if we want, okay, well, if we want
66:29to take a running back, it would be Woody marks.
66:32We could take Hunter, uh, our tight end one is Loveland.
66:36So we can probably wait. What do you, what do you think here to me?
66:41If you Hunter for the stack and just to get more Hunter always 12th round Hunter is, is perfectly, is perfectly fine.
66:48Um, this is actually true. Did you do well in earnings last year?
66:52I mean, I didn't, I didn't win any tournament, but I did not get wiped out last year.
66:58I honestly, I actually, I was going to with, if you, if you include season long, like FFPC and NFC, I might've just eked out a winning season.
67:07It would be, it would be, I mean, I did, you know, what 3000 teams or whatever.
67:13So it's very hard to win. Yeah. You know what?
67:16I'm actually, I'm going to, I'm going to keep it a buck.
67:20If you include cumulative tournaments, like the marathon, uh, and drafters, I for sure lost.
67:25Cause drafters is like $3,000 or whatever. And I, I got, I got killed in, in cumulative.
67:30Um, didn't do any examination. You weren't that far off from like breaking, even when you're doing that kind of volume, like it's pretty good without winning tournaments.
67:39Like, obviously the goal is to win a tournament and make a lot of money, but like, if you're going to be
67:47close to even, if you can, if you can tread water, I like treading water is kind of the, but I mean,
67:54I had, I had what eight finals teams or something like that.
67:58In the end. Didn't, didn't run, didn't run good in any of them.
68:02That's all we're, that's all we're asking for. Um, Quincy, me personally, I am not worried about a subscriber stealing all my
68:09takes and using it to win best full mania.
68:12That'd be pretty cool if they did, especially if they give you credit for it.
68:17I mean, that's just, you would just use that in, every, every single video you do from now on out that, that
68:24promo of like this subscriber one because of my takes.
68:27Yeah. Yeah. Are you worried about that? Am I?
68:30No, I'm not worried about it either. Good for you.
68:34Uh, specifically underdog. I mean, I, I, for sure lost on underdog because I think I drafted 1300 teams and I didn't
68:41get, I didn't get first place in anything. Just if you, if you draft, I'll just say this guys, if you draft
68:48anything like how I draft, cause I, one thing that is obviously true about the way I draft is I'm sacrificing the
68:55quality of a given team for just pure volume.
68:58Like I'm drafting 10 teams at a time on my phone sometimes just to get teams.
69:03Would I be better? It's the insane part there.
69:06What would I be better off drafting a quarter of the teams and just completely locking in on each team?
69:13Certainly, certainly true, but I'm not, it's not a trade I'm willing to make.
69:17Neil. I just don't, I don't understand why, why you're not willing to make that trade.
69:23We, we can, we can talk more about it after we make this pick.
69:27Um, probably need, we do probably need one of these boring running backs here.
69:32Uh, Marks, Spears. I mean, I feel like Spears is such a sidekick pick.
69:36Um, Marks is the sidekick. I would have done marks there.
69:40Coleman's kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Eat your vegetables.
69:43Walker toot and Brooks. You know what? We need a guy who's going to be active week one when you take Jonathan Brooks.
69:50So let's do, he's going to be active. He's going to be the, the they're expecting that they're going to ramp him up in the office.
69:59If you read the rest of the quote from that, the beat reporter where it was like, we think to Bobbard could be a bell cow.
70:07And early on, we're going to use them. Like we used them last year.
70:12The rest of the article was like they had, he had 60% of the snaps last year in, in weeks in the earlier.
70:19So 60% of the touches. I don't know. Um, but it was like Jonathan or, uh, Jonathan Brooks will be in the
70:27Rico Dowdle role, which is like not a terrible, you know, pass catching role.
70:31Yeah. Uh, I mean, strange for the stack. Bigs B is kind of like the last tier.
70:37Oh, Sean Tucker actually. Yeah, we can do, we can do Tucker or strange would be mine.
70:42Uh, we can, you know what? We can wait.
70:45We can wait on, on Tucker. I think depending on how this room is.
70:50So the reason Neil, why I won't make the trade off is, uh, it's, it's, it's two part.
70:56First part is if I could borrow a page from soccer, Dave, we just don't know.
71:01Like you, you, you, and I guess it is true in the sense that you don't know which team, I mean, Corrine
71:08famously said like the team that won for him.
71:11He's like, that team sucks. Like I, I drafted that.
71:14And I was like, I don't really like this team that I, and he's like, Oh, I saw the team is in the finals.
71:22I was like, Taequann Thornton. Like, Oh, I don't really like that.
71:26Uh, and the other thing is, I think it is a really good bit that I draft all these teams.
71:33Like I think it is, it is a pretty good bit.
71:36It's, it's a good bit. It's a good bit.
71:39And I'm going to definitely rework this bit next year because I can't do this again.
71:44I can't, I cannot be drafting as much as I'm drafting.
71:48Um, but it'll be easier with a one-year-old than a baby, right?
71:52No, no, no, no, no. Babies, Ellie, he can't move, man.
71:55He can't, he can't, he can't move and, and jump around and pull, pull stuff down.
72:01And you got it like, like right now he's a baby.
72:04Like I can throw it. Like if I need 10 minutes to go do something, five minutes, I can put him in his crib.
72:12I can put the baby monitor on and I can knock it out.
72:16Um, you can't, you can't do that when they can get out of the crib.
72:21And so it's a, it's a whole different ball game.
72:24That'll be, that'll be tougher. Yeah. You gotta keep an eye on him.
72:29Uh, okay. Two, four, Sean Tucker is still there.
72:32Yeah. So historically no real difference between two or three quarterback in this build, 15 to 16, pretty big difference between four
72:39and five running backs, like a percent and a half, no real difference between six, seven or eight wide receivers.
72:45And then, yeah, I was going to say it's going to be a huge difference between two and three tight ends.
72:52That's been one of the wildest things to see is how three tight end historically has dominated on underdog, like dominated, uh, which you really wouldn't.
73:01Cause in your mind, you're always like, dude, my third tight end is always a jabroni.
73:06My third tight end is always Dalton Schultz who like, I've never remembered once having a good fantasy game, but the, it's
73:13like very, very clear that three tight ends is way, way.
73:17I mean, it depends on what you're optimizing for.
73:20Very good for advancing though. Well, you're getting the starting tight end like late in the draft, as opposed to like a
73:27wide receiver for a lot of the time. Sometimes you get a wide receiver two on a really bad team, but you
73:34get it like a starting tight end on a good team.
73:38Um, all right. So Tucker went, I think we got to take Debo here.
73:42I was going to say Dylan Sampson, but, uh, if you want to go Debo, I have a billion shares of Debo.
73:49He's we have him, but he's, I'm fine with it.
73:53We have a two, four, six, two behind us and a three.
73:56Okay. Okay. Samson is probably Mark. Yeah. Samson is more likely to go.
74:01So let's see if we can push. I mean, Debo probably will go.
74:05I am, I am behind on Debo right now.
74:08And I would, I would like to change that.
74:11I would like to be ahead of him. He, he, what do you think when he signs with the, wherever he signs?
74:18Let's assume it's a neutral to positive situation. How, how high do you think his average draft position can get?
74:25I would guess like the 11th round, I, you know, I wonder, I wonder if he could even get up to like the Michael Pittman jr.
74:33Range, like in the hundreds, he wasn't that good last year.
74:37Like, I don't think he was, he wasn't, he wasn't terrible though.
74:41He wasn't. Michael Pittman is like legit good. And like some people are speculating.
74:45He could be the wide receiver one in Pittsburgh.
74:48I could see Debo moving to the Travis. Like I think where I would expect him to land is like the Jalen
74:55Coker to Omar Cooper kind of range. That's, that's probably right.
74:59All right. We did push Debo around. This is actually, this is actually a pretty interesting question.
75:04What's your favorite three person start you've gotten so far?
75:08So there was like a week where Brock Bowers was available in the third round.
75:13I don't, I don't remember why this happened, but my favorite start would for sure be some combination of like Bijon rush.
75:20Actually it would be, it would be Bijon rushy Bowers, which doesn't exactly line up with ADP now, but man, I, I
75:27mean, actually I can check the combos tools to see if I'm, I'm making that up.
75:32So let's go Bijon rice Bowers. Uh, I have, I have one.
75:36I have exactly one. 594 drafts. I have exactly one.
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77:13Like, I guess Bowers never falls to the Bichon drafter.
77:16Bowers, Bowers never falls. And rice honestly goes later.
77:19Yeah. I was going to say, cause you can get rice now in the third round.
77:24You can get rice. You can get rice whenever you want them.
77:28Races, uh, rice is always available. If you're, if you're interested, I played this game with Pete.
77:34He asked me this question when I sobbed on best ball breakfast, the day, the day of the AJ Brown trade, I
77:41believe it was right before the trade. I said, my favorite was Jameer Gibbs, Brock Bowers, AJ Brown.
77:47What was one that I've gotten a few times, only once in best ball mania, but I've gotten that a few times.
77:54Uh, and I'm glad I took advantage. I actually, you know, the first time I came on your stream this summer, I,
78:01I brought up, uh, we, we moved AJ Brown to the turn to get a unique start.
78:07Cause I was saying, I thought he was going to move up.
78:10Uh, and I don't remember who, I think it might've been a Bowers, AJ Brown team, but I, I'd have to go back and look.
78:19Honestly, like any combination of this B John or Gibbs and Bowers.
78:23I mean, that just, that feels like elite, elite.
78:25Cheat code. That, that feels good. I mean, that's a good one.
78:29Gentie love and AJ Brown. I wouldn't say Jeremiah love is a part of like any of my favorite comp combinations.
78:36I'm, I feel just fine about Jeremiah love. I, I'm not, um, jamming him per se.
78:41Like Liam, like loves. Does he really love? Yeah.
78:44It's like one of his, one of his biggest opinions is being, is being all the way in on Jeremiah love.
78:51Hmm. I, I think he's probably a good player.
78:54I like, he looks good in the prospect models I've looked at, but, uh, he's just on a team that has some
79:01competition at running back as a rookie. I don't know.
79:05I'm, I'm kind of neutral. Like, I like him.
79:08I'm happy to get him, but I'm not like super excited.
79:11Um, just on, on that note, the, uh, person who said he got the late AJ Brown.
79:17I did a five 55 draft. I'll, I'll tell the story after we, after we do the turn.
79:23Um, all right. Uh, let's, let's, let's get our, let's get her.
79:26Oh, I've, I mean, the folks love a bad beat story.
79:30All right, let's do damn. All the good tight ends are gone.
79:34Damn. We kind of got, we kind of got owned there.
79:38Do you, do you draft any of these guys?
79:41I don't have some Michael mayor. Um, darn on Washington.
79:44I think it was a fine. Like he, he just signed a big contract.
79:48He, he's kind of fun on underdog because he definitely is not going to get there via reception volume, but he could,
79:56he could have a two touchdown game. Yeah, for sure.
79:59All right. So it's two, five, seven, three. So let's ship.
80:02Uh, do you ever, do you ever take Taequann Thornton?
80:06Don't think I've ever taken Taequann Thornton. Do you have a, do you have a, do you have a favorite guy late?
80:13Like right now? No, I do a mix. Darno Mooney, Elijah Surratt, Pat Bryan, if he's available, Chris Brazil, Surratt, that's such a fucking sidekick ass click.
80:22I mean, true. Yes. I, Corrine, Corrine, Corrine and I, we streamed about nine drafts last Friday and we talked about Surratt.
80:29I think literally every draft I'm unconvinced. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, he's big, right?
80:34He's like six, four. No, that's Jacoby lane. Oh, that's Jacoby lane.
80:38Okay. Yeah. 18 round draft. I don't think I can do it.
80:42Um, let's take, I mean, I kind of got nothing down here.
80:45Let's do it. You know what? Let's just take Darnell Mooney.
80:49Let's eat our vegetables, Neil. All right. Mahomes, Lawrence, Walker, Tootin, Jonathan Brooks, Tajay Spears, Dylan Sampson, CD lamb, Rashi rice, BTJ,
80:56Michael Pittman, juniors, Tavon digs, Travis Hunter, Debo Samuel, Darnell Mooney, Colston level and Burton strange Darnell Washington.
81:02That's, that's honestly a shipper. That that's one of my, that's one of my favorite ones that we've drafted thus far.
81:09Yeah. Yeah. I like that. So my, my minor bad beat story.
81:13So I entered a 555 slow draft on draft games.
81:16Uh, and I've only done one so far cause I'm, I'm not, like max and I'll do, I'll do three to four
81:23throughout the summer of each high stakes contest on, on draft Kings or the five, not the real high stakes.
81:30But anyways, I did one only like specifically with the purpose of, I want to get third, that third round AJ Brown.
81:37Like I was like, that was kind of my whole thing for a while.
81:42I was like, he's going to move up. You're not gonna be able to get this most in the summer.
81:48I want to get as many shares as I can.
81:51And I want to get it in high stakes also.
81:55So I entered the draft for the purpose of getting, uh, a third round AJ Brown.
82:00I mean, obviously among other things. Um, but I get the, the 1.11.
82:04And I was like, well, you know, not, not going to get third round AJ Brown at the 1.11, obviously.
82:11So I get, uh, I don't know, Ashton Gentie and Saquon Barkley or James Cook and Saquon Barkley.
82:17I forget exactly which, which duo, but two elite running backs comes all the way back to the 3.10.
82:23AJ Brown is there. And, uh, of course I'm sitting there on the slow draft.
82:28I was like, there's just no way. And of course he went the one pick before me.
82:33So I almost got my dream start in the one five 55 slow draft that I've done so far.
82:39But I, that is, yeah, that that's tough. Neil, does that even count as a bad beat story?
82:45Probably not even, probably doesn't even count as a bad beat story, but it felt real bad to me.
82:51Uh, no, no, that, that, uh, that does not, that does not count as a real bad beat story.
82:58Bad beat story would be like, if you specifically remember that.
83:01And then the reason you didn't advance in week 16 was that AJ Brown had a 32 point game.
83:07Yep. That would qualify. Uh, I mean, I'm assuming that you are similar to me in these later rounds where you're doing
83:15a little bit less of the, I really hope this running back plays stuff.
83:19And just like, well, Darnell Mooney, Chris Brazel, you know, whatever.
83:23Yeah. That's, that's kind of philosophically how I'm thinking about it.
83:26It's going to be, you know, one of the top receivers on the team, probably like who knows how much time Malik
83:34neighbors is going to miss while Malik neighbors out.
83:37Could Darnell Mooney be the wide receiver one on the team?
83:40Um, yeah. So I, like, I think he's just going to get there with, I mean, he wasn't great last year, but
83:47like he's had healthy seasons where he's been pretty good.
83:51So, um, yeah, I like Mooney there. Yeah. Uh, okay.
83:54Okay. Let's go hop into the, you're not streaming till four central, right?
83:58Neil, three 30, but three 30. Yeah. all right.
84:01Do you want to, do you want to stay around for this one?
84:05Yeah. Do you need, you need to get back to the gym?
84:09No, I'm done with, I'm done with the gym.
84:12Just gotta, just gotta clean my glasses at some point.
84:15Um, yeah, I can, I can do one, two more if we're doing on underdog.
84:20These take what? 25, 30 minutes. It's actually, dude, it's actually crazy.
84:24They have really increased in velocity. Like I, I'm kind of, I'm kind of used to the cadence of every draft taking 45 minutes.
84:32They, they do not take 45 minutes anymore. Well, it's 20.
84:36The difference between underdog and draft Kings at this point is drastic.
84:40Cause it's 22nd clocks and also 18 rounds versus 20.
84:43Uh, yeah. So I, I think this is a huge difference, uh, much, much easier to stream underdog these days.
84:49Yeah. Um, yeah, we were, we were not going through drafts this efficiently, um, last week during DK best of week had,
84:57had a blast one, a bunch of, uh, what I got a bunch of tickets.
85:01It's it was a great time. Um, um, but man, nothing, frankly, nothing will be worse than last off season.
85:08When I committed myself to streaming all one 50 big boards, there were 32nd clocks.
85:13I had multiple get thrown out before the super bowl because people were logging on and just drafting like super bowl, BR teams.
85:20Like they were, they were drafting Carson Wentz and shit.
85:24And like, we were doing 90 minute best ball drafts in January.
85:28It w it was, it was a tough scene for your boy.
85:31Uh, it was, it was a bad year to commit to that, but I, I do really like the, the 22nd clocks.
85:39All right. We're drafting at seven. We've got, uh, Oh, right next to my, my friend ATX bear cat and, uh, seven
85:46kind of an interesting draft slot because I don't, I don't love Christian.
85:50I don't love Jonathan Taylor. They're, they're fine. I'm sort of surprised you were so in on Christian McCaffrey last year.
85:57I'm surprised you're not in this year. Dude, he, wow.
86:00St. Brown goes, um, you know what? Let's, let's just, let's just take Christian McCaffrey.
86:05I was so in on Christian McCaffrey last year.
86:08However, it's pretty hard to sustain 3.2 yards per carry as a, as a running back getting three, like Shanahan can kind
86:15of just about do it, but there's a chance it gets even worse.
86:19Like there, there is a, there is a chance that like, it actually becomes untenable to give him 15 rushes in a game.
86:27Like that, that, that they have to start doing something else because he, he is only able to be a third down back.
86:34Caleb. Is it Caleb black? Is that the, the back backup?
86:38Kate, Kayla and black, but yeah, Kayla and black.
86:41Yeah. Yeah. Suddenly looking pretty good when, when McCaffrey is going 3.2 yards per carry.
86:46I draft some of him. And I draft some of Jordan James, because I think if you're, if you're not going to
86:53even be at market with McCaffrey, I, I come, I, I don't completely disagree.
86:58I disagree with the crane approach. Like we've, I mean, we basically have been talking about nothing, but this on ADP and
87:05ship chasing about how, like how bad it is to get zeros and why those guys are such likely zeros.
87:11And like, I don't want to take the uncertain running back twos, but the potential payoff for either Kayla and black or
87:19Jordan James is so massive that I am still taking those shots.
87:22Yeah. All right. Uh, HN as a faller here, Bowers, Henry, uh, whatever, whatever you want.
87:28I think when we get HN to fall, that's, that's a good place to take him.
87:33Cause I'm not going to have a ton of HM, but I'm going to guess that this combination of players is, super, super low.
87:41Yeah. Point, point 4% of all drafts. I have it on only one of 594 of my completed drafts up into this point.
87:48So that is a, an ultra rare combination. That'll do.
87:51Yeah. Uh, I, I am very much enjoying that.
87:54I'm very much, it's kind of, it's like, Oh, look at my shiny, look at my shiny combination.
88:00No one else has. Although when you start doing too much interrogation of it, you realize how rare any combination is, you
88:07know, there will be, yeah, there will be no duped.
88:11There will be no duped. Yeah. You need like the, the, the raw number of how many times this, you know, combo
88:18been drafted and starts the raw, the raw number might be, might be more helpful.
88:23Yeah. The raw, the raw number, uh, which I guess you can't, you could extrapolate out if you wanted to, you could
88:30just multiply it by, by however many. And this'll be, this'll be a cool start because if we take a running backup
88:37pick 50, if we go to more wide receivers than a running back, a pick 55, we can like totally punt running
88:44back for the rest of the way. Yeah. Where are you at?
88:48Where are you at on Bowers? Are you taking Bowers 8%?
88:52Like, are you, no way, way over Bowers. Yeah.
88:55He's, that was kind of my, uh, my AJ Brown line was like, I'm never taking AJ Brown ahead of Bowers.
89:02Like I, there are other players. Like I'll take him ahead of, uh, McBride and Pickens and Collins, but I'm never taking him ahead of, of Brock Bowers.
89:11So yeah, we've got a ton. Yeah. Uh, we did, we did get an update on one Mr.
89:17Cameron Scadaboo participating in mini camp drills. Didn't, didn't have that on my bingo card that, that I think is pretty big news.
89:24Actually. I would say I, I did not anticipate that.
89:27Um, I didn't think, I didn't think we would see him.
89:31I didn't think we would see Judkins until the summer.
89:34It's gotta go. Yeah. I, I didn't think, I didn't think we'd see, I didn't think either one of those guys based on, on their injuries.
89:43Yeah. Modern medicine, man. Dude, bet on my Christian Watson.
89:46He, he, he changed me forever. Yeah. I mean, I think Devonta is definitely the pick here.
89:52Yeah. If we get him, if, if he, okay, this is more of a tricky spot.
89:57What do you, what do you think? Should we just get your boy?
90:01No, dude, I can't, I have like a million percent of this guy.
90:05Let's take, let's take neighbors. And then we'll get Rishi rice in the fourth round.
90:10Honest, honest to God, this is my true. Uh, this is a, this is, this is not exactly a truth serum.
90:17Maybe this is more of Pete's heart of heart thing.
90:20I, I am worried about rice more than I ever was at any point last season.
90:26Because it's cold, sweat takes, right? That's what this is.
90:29Uh, this is a cold, sweat take my, cause my cold, sweat take is, is like almost like threefold.
90:35So it's one, one, this knee injury might just be like a significant limitation to him and it might be bothering him
90:42all year to the team might just be so sick of his shit that even if it takes like a small step
90:49back for them in terms of overall offensive efficiency, they might be like, dude, we cannot design an offense based around this
90:57guy who is so unreliable and like, who just pisses us off at every turn.
91:01And then the third would be in a way, not a, a not cold sweat.
91:06This would be like a hot flash take would be, well, maybe they were telling the truth about Xavier worthy, really not being able to do anything.
91:15Cause he had a torn labrum last year. And maybe they really do want to feed more through Xavier worthy.
91:22And that the, the Rashi rice stuff really was a symptom of like, so Kelsey's a million years old, we hate all of our running backs.
91:30We don't want to run worthy over the middle of the field because the guy has a torn labor.
91:36How many ways? 170 pounds. Like that, that I think is a low probability part of the game tree, but not impossible.
91:44And based on what everything they've said, I mean, Kelsey has said this, uh, someone just actually just posted this in my discord.
91:51He went on Randy Moss's fishing show and was like effusive in his praise for Xavier worthy.
91:57Um, um, Scadaboo does that. We double up on the giants.
92:00Lad is an ADP value. What do you think?
92:03Uh, let's go with fully healthy cam Scadaboo. Fully healthy.
92:06They're saying it, they're saying it in the streets.
92:09They're saying cam Scadaboo has never been more healthy.
92:12Um, but yeah, I, I think there, I think there's, uh, I think there's a chance.
92:18Yeah. Fishing, fishing with Randy. Yeah. Like, so Randy Moss, like basically like has this podcast where he just invites people to come, uh, fishing with him.
92:26That's awesome. I can't believe I've never watched this podcast.
92:30It's, I was going to say that feels very Minnesota.
92:33That feels extreme. Like I'm not a fisher. I like, I'm not your classic Minnesotan in a lot of ways, despite the flannel brand.
92:41Like I don't enjoy fishing just like has never really done it for me.
92:45That's dude. That's crazy to have the flannel brand and to not be like, yeah, dude, I go, I go ice fishing, um, three times a year.
92:54It's really just, I wear flannel a lot. And people at, when I worked at Stochastic, people started calling me, I think
93:01actually Greg, my cohost started calling me the flannel God.
93:05So that just became my nickname, the flannel God.
93:07So eventually it just like was my whole brand.
93:10Where's your flannel today? Why are you not wearing a flannel today?
93:14So I just decided, you know what? I'm going to lean into it.
93:19Uh, so I, so I called my stream that the flannel verse, uh, but I'm kind of a poser.
93:25Like I'm not a huge outdoorsman. I just live where it's cold.
93:29So flannels kind of makes sense. Well, I mean, that's how like theoretically that's how it should work, right?
93:35Flannels are popular in Minnesota, not, not for the aesthetic and not because that's what people do, but because it's pretty cold outside.
93:42And so a flannel just like makes sense for the, uh, the environment.
93:47Of course, that's not how the world works these days, but, uh, yeah, well today, today we, we, we, we might have
93:54to get you a ice fishing, Neil. I bet ice fishing once and it was okay.
93:59Wasn't so bad. Cause you're like in, in an igloo or not an igloo, but we're in, in an enclosure.
94:06You're in a, uh, you're basically in like a, you're basically in a wooden shed.
94:10Yeah. Uh, okay. So the scatter booth thing, not great.
94:14Cause these wide receivers suck. What do you want to, what do you want to do here?
94:19Uh, probably go Christian Watson. I like Christian Watson.
94:22I'm, I'm, I'm buying into the, this, the half of a season they had last year.
94:27I thought was, was pretty legit. And like, I think he's actually really talented receiver.
94:32Um, and now could have more opportunities. So yeah, I'm, I'm pretty in on Watson.
94:37He should. Yeah. Yeah. He should have more opportunities this year.
94:41I mean, all of them should write the, uh, golden golden should read.
94:45Should. I mean, this should be the first time that Jaden Reed has ever played a full allotment of snaps in a year.
94:53Yeah. Like Watson, he had like 2.5, 2.6 yards per hour run last year.
94:57Right. Whereas like golden just didn't really show us much.
95:00So I think if, if golden is not like awesome, like he didn't really show us much.
95:06Um, Watson could just separate as the like clear best receiver on the team.
95:11Read like, you know, I think Reed is pretty good also, but 2.6, four and 2.5, four yards per hour run.
95:17Most recent two seasons. Pretty good. Pretty, pretty good.
95:20Um, now obviously yards per hour run yards per hour run in that, in that offense.
95:26Very easy to, very easy to scheme up. Yeah.
95:28Yeah. I'll take yards. Yes. Hey, skip there. There, uh, you, the fantasy points count the same, even if you grift the,
95:36um, even if you grip the stats. All right.
95:39We actually got, we got given a huge gift here and Jordan Tyson.
95:43Yeah. Happy, happy to get some Jordan Tyson. I started watching some, uh, some highlights of, of the college players.
95:49Carnell Tate. And yeah, I actually have not watched for Kyle lemon yet.
95:54And I should, cause he's the one that I have drafted probably the most of you.
95:59Um, you should, you should really watch the highlights for demand.
96:02Claiborne, the, the Minnesota Vikings. Is he any good?
96:05I haven't. He, I mean, it could, I be impossible to say if he's any good, but he is very fun.
96:12He was the fastest player in the college football video game last year.
96:16And he, he's a, he is a very sick kick returner, like a really, really good kick returner.
96:22Um, so I, I think it's pretty likely that he's going to make the team like, Oh, like, uh, be active from, from day one.
96:30He, he to me is like the sneakiest pick on the board.
96:34Cause I'm like, dude, Aaron Jones and Jordan. Mason feels like we have just ran.
96:39Like we watched it. It didn't work. We watched it.
96:43It didn't work. Now. Did it not work? Because the rest of the offense wasn't working like that.
96:48It's possible. Um, like the Vikings offensive line is supposed to be pretty good.
96:53Yeah. Totally, totally injured. Most like all of last year.
96:56Sometimes, sometimes you just have to, sometimes you just have to disregard an entire season.
97:01Like sometimes you just like, am I punishing Jalen Waddle for his like, whatever, 11 and a half points per game last year.
97:09No, like the whole offense was, this was sick.
97:12Right. Uh, all right. We are up. Jalen Warren is a very good pick here that we are in the quarterback window,
97:19but we do not have stacks for any of these quarterbacks.
97:22What do you, what do you do in this spot when you are in the quarterback window and you don't have anything lined up?
97:30Patrick Mahomes. Usually. Or, or I'll take Jalen hurts if he was there, but, uh, yeah, I, I would either go Mahomes or Tucker craft.
97:38We want to do a double stack. Let's, let's do that.
97:42Cause then that'll make it marginally more likely. Um, and there's a chance because I, the, the rice draft.
97:48Oh, okay. Nevermind. The rice drafters on our right.
97:51So we're, I was going to say there's definitely a chance Mahomes gets back to us, but he, he won't anymore.
97:58I will definitely title a stream. This at some point to soft season, I'm, I'm prepared to lose money on demonic Claiborne.
98:05And I am, I am. I, I'm entering into the situation with full awareness that it's probably a losing decision, but man,
98:12you can imagine if it works out. Did you watch the, the, the, so you think you can tell videos, the, um, scheme.
98:20No, they did. Okay. They, the, the schemers did a stream where cops, the like analytics guy pulls out.
98:26He was like, I I've got a great 18th round pick.
98:30I think this is like the skeleton key and his skeleton key pick was Eli Heiden Rick.
98:35I think, is that the name of the guy from Navy?
98:39Yeah. Which I was like, I have not drafted this guy.
98:42I've not thought about drafting this guy. Um, I've taken him.
98:46I've taken him on draft Kings. I mean, the, the thing, the thing is, is that, uh, that, that makes me think
98:53interestingly about cops because, uh, all right, we did, we did not get our guy.
98:58So our option would be Purdy with McCaffrey, Dowdle, Downs, Lawrence, any, any of these Lawrence, Lawrence and backstack with, uh, with Travis Hunter.
99:06We're going to, we're going to do Purdy. We're going to give, we're going to give the, so I, it's honestly like
99:13my Hunter exposure is to the point that like people are going to start pointing and laughing at me.
99:19So the, the issue with height and rank is there's no real way.
99:24If you are doing numbers based evaluation of him as a running back and not as a wide receiver to make him look bad.
99:31Like when I was building the slap model, the on it, like no, no adjustments, just like raw.
99:37He was like the 19th best running back prospect of all time in my model.
99:42Like he was like better than like Dalvin cook.
99:45Was he a wide receiver or what was the reason there?
99:49It's like, well, it's Navy. So it's like, he was kind of a wide receiver, but he was also a running back,
99:56but he was like, he, you know, just like, and they, you know, everything is done based on like the number one,
100:03non draft capital variable for running backs. That is future fantasy points is receiving yards per team past attempt.
100:09So if you have a thousand yards on a team that never passes the ball, you are going to look like he's
100:16like 99th percentile receiving yards per team past attempt.
100:19So it's just like, it's like he's in a different universe.
100:23Um, so that's a long winded way of saying, I wonder if Mr.
100:27Cups analytics got any further than that in his analysis, or if he did in the adjustment, I I'm curious to watch it.
100:35Yeah. And that, that was the point he made was that he was 99th percentile in that specific as a receiver.
100:42He was 99th percentile. Yeah. Yeah. So that, that, that is, that makes me very curious.
100:47Um, all right, we're up. Do you want to just take Jordan love for our double stack or do you want to
100:54try and, do you want to try and get risky?
100:57I would probably just do love, uh, otherwise I would do Jonathan Brooks.
101:01All right. We're going to take Jordan love. We probably won't get Jonathan Brooks back to us, but we would be, we
101:09would be pretty tilted if we did not get Jordan love, I think.
101:13Yeah. So the, the thing with the thing with Heidenreich is that I'm, I'm pretty sure the dude is going to play running back, not wide receiver.
101:22And I don't really know. There's been a lot of guys like this who has existed.
101:27Um, a lot, a lot of these kids are, are probably too young to remember.
101:32Max Borgie, Max Borgie, like, uh, UFL, UFL, UFL legend, Max Borgie.
101:36So he was like an all time pass catcher at Washington state.
101:40And I don't believe ever. He, he was like an undrafted free agent.
101:44I don't believe any, I, he might not even signed with anyone as an undrafted free agent, but these guys, these guys
101:51pop up and they also pop up the, all the service Academy stuff.
101:55It just makes it impossible to evaluate these guys.
101:58Like, uh, do you remember Steven Hill old jets receiver?
102:01Yes. So he was like, he was like a first round pick, all this stuff, yada, yada.
102:07But I mean, he played in a team that threw the ball 27 times a year.
102:12Uh, do you want to go mega all in super duper stack?
102:16Yeah, I do. I like that. I think that's, that's pretty fun.
102:20We are, we are all in on the Packers and, and we've got the Wisconsin Dell set up.
102:26So we can take, uh, Woody marks later. We can take tank Dell later.
102:31Dalton Schultz, potentially love it. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah.
102:33Jalen Samuels, the, uh, the fake tight end. See, and this is another problem.
102:38I would imagine that Caleb Johnson is probably going to make the team ahead of Heidenreich just purely because he was a third round pick.
102:46Right. Very, very, very hard to, um, send a, send a third round pick to zero.
102:51I think anyway, that's, uh, Ooh, I do remember Kelvin Harmon.
102:55I, yeah. Neil, have you played any of these, uh, the, the, the team?
103:00I've done 82 and O I've got 82. Oh no, I've got 20.
103:04You know, um, those are the only ones I've done.
103:07I haven't tried like baseball or hockey. So I, I, I did it with the, with the stats showing.
103:13So I, easy mode. The only one I, I can only do NFL and NBA without stats showing.
103:19I would, I need, I need stats for hockey and for there's a, there's a soccer one that I've been, that I've been doing.
103:27I mean, these are, I, cause I want to get, I want to get on.
103:32I want to 38, no 84. Like I want to get them all.
103:36And it's, it's very, very difficult. Yeah. I, the, the first time I did NBA, I did it on hard mode.
103:43So not showing the state, the stats. And I went 77 and five.
103:47And I was like, this is so easy. I went, this is so easy.
103:52And then it was like, I did it a few more times.
103:56And obviously that was never, never got as good as 77 and five.
104:00And eventually I was just like, I just want to see what the stats are.
104:05Like, I'm curious what the stats are for some of these.
104:08I, that's the thing is it's like a fun version of remember that guy.
104:13And I, I do, I do want to see the stats there.
104:17There are a couple of good hockey ones, Benny.
104:20We were just talking about it in discord. Now, do we want to take digs?
104:25Do we want to take Willis? I mean, digs digs is a much bigger positional need.
104:30Cause we're, we're kind of behind a receiver. Probably digs.
104:33Yeah. I'm just gonna, I'm just, I'm just going to keep clicking.
104:37That's the bond digs button. Um, all, all, well, actually probably honestly, once he, once he signs, I'll be, I'll be out.
104:44I mean, it's like, I was jamming AJ Brown and I've taken him like twice since he moved to the second round
104:52and I'll start mixing them in more. I just haven't really gotten that, that pick that much, but it's like, yeah, like
104:59I'm trying to get these guys before the big rise.
105:02Same reason we're taking Debo Samuel right now. Uh, digs.
105:05And it obviously depends how far digs moves up.
105:08Where is your dream landing spot for digs? Uh, frankly, not the Kansas city chiefs.
105:13Really? Uh, yeah, because, because then he nukes my other bags really bad for worthy, really bad for rice.
105:19Not particularly good for Kelsey. Probably the dream scenario is the Raiders where I don't think anyone can impact Bowers and I
105:26don't draft Trey Tucker or Jalen Naylor at all.
105:29So it's just going to, it's going to nuke the bags for other people.
105:34Uh, that, that would be commanders is not bad either.
105:37Um, I wouldn't mind. All right. So there really is no running.
105:41Oh, I actually think we should take Woody marks here.
105:44All right. Yeah. It's, it's, we need the Wisconsin Dells.
105:48We don't have a running back for, or yeah.
105:51And marks marks definitely fits more in like a, a back and forth game than, than David Montgomery does.
105:57Uh, yes. All these sites are AI generated for sure.
106:00You can always, you can always tell a Claude, a Claude site.
106:04First off, it'll always have the green, red, orange filter worked in the typography always looks the exact same.
106:10I mean, you, you can always tell you can always, I mean, you could tell that the flock tool a long time
106:17ago, they just never changed the colors, but when the dev started building it, they were just like, well, what should it look like?
106:25You can tell from the layout, like it's all, I mean, like frankly, every business that you guys trust or don't trust, they're all using Claude.
106:34If you, if you're on the internet, even if you don't know, you are engaging in Claude slop.
106:40I, I hate to tell if you're super anti, I'm sorry to tell you, but everyone's using Claude for something.
106:46It just is what it is. I have not delved into Claude yet, but I am, I'm excited to at some point.
106:53Uh, yeah. Well, Hey, if you, if you have any questions, I'm happy to, not that I, not that I'm some, not that I'm some Claude genius.
107:02I mean, I really just stick around. It'd be helpful for me.
107:06Cause we're kind of starting probably from a similar, like very, yes.
107:10Cause I, cause I know nothing about coding. Absolutely.
107:13Absolutely. Zilch zero. Yeah. Uh, okay. A two, four, five, one.
107:16Uh, I think we'd be, yeah. Three tight ends, significantly better.
107:20No real difference on this one between two and three quarterbacks.
107:24No real different. Actually, we're just kind of in a bad spot.
107:28Historically game tree. What do you, what do you think in here?
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108:12A little early for stripling. I'd go maybe Jonah Coleman.
108:15Or, or a Kong wo. There you go. I was, I was gonna, I was, I was eyeing him up.
108:21I, every day that Brandon Iyuk does not sign.
108:24I think Chig should go up like one further spot.
108:28How is your, how's your projection class going, Neil?
108:31Not great. So I was, I was moving along like pretty steadily until, we got this new dog.
108:36And I think it's been two weeks at least.
108:39Maybe, maybe, maybe I've taken any class since we got him.
108:43So I think I need to adjust my schedule.
108:46It's like, that's the hardest thing is like, I know that I need to become a morning person and just like wake
108:53up when the dog wakes up so I can get more sleep and have more time in the day.
108:59And I just haven't, haven't made the adjustment yet.
109:02But yeah, I'm, I need to get it done.
109:05This is one of my new year's resolutions to, to complete the class this year.
109:10I'm about like 20, 22% somewhere in that range through the class, just an online class.
109:15So yeah, I need, need to get back to it.
109:19Is it through like Udemy? It is through Udemy.
109:22Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very worthwhile. I've never done it.
109:25But like some of my buddies have done Udemy stuff and it is, it is very worthwhile.
109:31Recommended to me. It was the, the course that shit.
109:34My money is, he has also not finished it, but he recommended it to me.
109:39Oh, that's classic. That's classic fucking Adam. Yeah. Well run.
109:42The Sims has like the literal goaded baseball projections.
109:45People don't even know that, but like the run, the Sims, you want to take dribbling?
109:50Yeah. Run, run. The Sims has, I don't even know where they found this.
109:55Like, I don't, I don't know the, the correlation between the run, the Sims guys and Owen, but this guy is the
110:02stuff that is going into the run, the Sims baseball model is insane.
110:06It is, I, it's, I, and I have no, no disrespect to Cardi, but it is kicking the bats ass this year.
110:13Yeah. Nerdy tenor. Sorry. Dan was just posted this morning that, you know, he is running Sims for all the contests and
110:21everything with all the projections and that Owen is beating ballpark pal and the bat, like pretty convincingly.
110:26So. Promo code flannel for 20% off. Promo code flannel for 20% off.
110:31Yeah. Yes, of course. Yes. I said, I think it's 20%.
110:34I forget. I forget exactly what it is. Yes, you can, you can, you can do all of that that you want.
110:41Um, cause you're, I mean, you get money through it if, you know, if people buy it.
110:47Yes. I just, it's, if people are, if people are on run, the Sims down the street, which is why Adam being
110:54good at DFS is actually so fucking annoying for me.
110:57Cause Adam is so annoying, but he's really good at DFS.
111:01And to the point that I even still get kind of mad when he wins.
111:06Even when he's using run the Sims. Yeah. Even, even I'm just like, okay.
111:11All right. You know, you know, you know, you know, the deal with Adam right now is that, um, he, uh, he,
111:18he's currently tilting because he drafted the worst MLB best ball teams of all time.
111:23He's going to advance like one team and he's just like, yeah, but everyone on underdog is fucking stupid anyway.
111:29Well, that was like, he, he made his bed by just like shit.
111:33He's like, these guys are such idiots. They have no idea what they're doing.
111:38No idea. Dude. Yeah. You're just setting yourself up to get ripped on all summer.
111:43And sure enough, do you want to do Sean Tucker or Debo given the concept composition of our team?
111:49I think Sean Tucker is better actually. Yeah, no, I think he is.
111:53Cause then we can probably be done. Cause there's other wide receivers like Debo would be great, but like there's other wide receivers that we like later on.
112:02Uh, on run, the Sims is a beating Cardi in terms of preseason.
112:07It's daily projections, but it's not like nerdy stuff is not saying the way I understand it.
112:12It's, it's just saying like the way nerdy is simming the field.
112:16So I, if you did, if you tested it another way, I don't, you were that's so far above my pay grade,
112:23dude, like you guys have no idea. They will talk about things in our end game chat that I'm like, you guys
112:31might as well be speaking Greek, like straight up.
112:33Like I got, I got no idea what you were saying to me right now.
112:38Uh, my business email, Michael is just my email.
112:41It's just Davis, Matt, a gmail.com. You can, I will, I will potentially respond to you, but you're better than I am.
112:48If you do respond, I mean, I respond to some, obviously.
112:52Well, I get, I, you would, you, I will actually probably wouldn't be surprised, but I get a lot of emails from
112:59people being like, I have this idea and I used to respond to all of them.
113:04But like, if your idea is bad or I don't have the time for it, I will delete it and not respond.
113:12Unless it's something that I like immediately understand and think like, this is going to be a good fit.
113:18I agree. Then I probably just was like, Hey, I started this AI company.
113:22I think you'd be a great. Yep. Oh, that'd be fun.
113:26We could, we could show, uh, the, the DMS.
113:29Okay. Uh, we need a third tight end. Do you have a favorite of this group?
113:34Should we go home? Do you want to get your IT Ferg?
113:38Either way. I'm trying to see if, are we missing on any wide receiver that we should like really specifically be taking?
113:45Oh, do you want to take? Oh, fuck, fuck.
113:48Okay. I took Rogers. That, that I, I honestly, like, I just totally, I panicked right there.
113:54I thought you missed it by five seconds. I'm, I'm shocked that you got that through.
113:59They give you, they give you like a little latency.
114:02Yeah. Yeah. you get, you get like a, you get like a half second of, uh, of latency there.
114:08Uh, I don't, we really needed a third tight end more than we needed a third, uh, quarterback, but I'm pretty sure.
114:16Well, actually Helm would have been, I mean, I can do Friermuth or Garna Washington as a backstack.
114:22Yeah. Hey, and 16%, uh, historical advance rate is fine.
114:25Uh, Ooh, sporting the flannel burst on the profile pick on draft Kings.
114:29There you go. Yeah. I'd love to see that.
114:32God, I gotta see that. I gotta see that pick.
114:35Or is it just the avatars? Yeah. Anyway, does Warren go before doubt?
114:39Oh, cause he's projected to get more of the gain.
114:43Well, role. I don't think, I think the gain.
114:46role doesn't really exist. The gain. Well, role was very specific.
114:49I think to gain. Well, it was also a different offensive coordinator.
114:53Rogers is just going to check down a lot to who, whichever running back is out there.
114:59Then like Jalen Warren also had a lot of receptions last year and could have a lot and has played a third,
115:06third down role before could play a third down role.
115:09Often in the future. Like, I don't think any of that would be that surprising.
115:14Um, all right. Should we finish off here? I mean, I, we do still need a third tight end.
115:20Is that, and then we'll do it. Frame with went, um, Ted, Ted Hurst is still there.
115:26I'd be fine. Ted Hurst. Terrence Ferguson is the last tight end who is worth a darn though.
115:32So let's do, let's do T Ferg. And then we can, we can regroup for wide receiver.
115:37It feels like Ted Hurst has been falling. I feel like I've been seeing him frequently.
115:42Maybe it's just, he has a wide band of where he goes, but man, I feel like I've gotten him.
115:49No. In the last couple of rounds a lot.
115:52It's that news is starting to happen. People are like, it's just so we have new things to react to.
115:58People were just reacting so heavily and so strongly to, he's going to be the X receiver.
116:04That, that news, that news hit like my normal guy group chat.
116:08Okay. Like my, my normal, my normal friends who I went to high school and college with are like, dude, Ted Hurst is going to be the X.
116:17Oh, so they weren't even saying that, right? They were just like, we, we envision him playing the X receiver role.
116:24Correct. Not, not like this is, he's going to be the starting X receiver.
116:28Just like when he plays, he's going to be used as an X receiver.
116:33Yeah. Yep. Yep. That's a, that's how it goes.
116:36Um, I mean, I would, I would take, if he's still here, I mean, these, this is a dream right here.
116:43Yeah. Let's do it. Jam. I was, I was ready for Zachariah branch as well.
116:48Are you, I thought you're big adding. I Mitchell guy.
116:51I watched a video where you, you know, Mitchell in the final round.
116:55I, I am needing to chill out on all the guys that I have over 20% of.
117:01I just, I, I, I'm not, I don't need to have 25% of all these dust balls because the thing that people
117:08don't realize about like, Oh, guys who drafted 300 teams, like who has 50% of someone.
117:13If I have 8% of someone, I'm going to have more raw teams than someone who has 25% of someone to draft.
117:20Like the, the amount of money or site credits that I will get involved with like Zachariah branch, like is going to
117:28be a four digit number when all things are said and done, you know?
117:32So it's like, you, you don't need to have 35% of that guy.
117:36Right. Unless you like really believe that he is the best pick, like easily.
117:41I do think particularly on draft Kings, Zachariah branch is like a crazy pick.
117:46He should be, if I had to drink truth serum, he should be like a 13th round pick.
117:51I think really just because he's a wide receiver too.
117:55Like I'm pretty sure he's just going to be the starting slot wide receiver with a quarterback who only wants to throw screens.
118:02Like a quarterback who is like well known for just throwing screens.
118:06You're assuming that it's Tua. He's going to be the quarterback.
118:10Tua is definitely, Tua is definitely starting week one.
118:13I mean, I don't, I don't know about how things are going to go to it.
118:18Tua didn't sign to be a backup anywhere. And Caller Murray didn't sign to be a backup anywhere.
118:24Yeah. You know, it's like, it's like Russell Wilson, like Russell Wilson on these teams, Russell Wilson was going to start, even
118:31though he was totally terrible at the end. Like Russell Wilson got hurt and then got his job back for the Steelers.
118:38You know, that's just, that's just how it goes.
118:41All right. Well, how do we do on this team?
118:44CMC, Achan, neighbors, scat. We should have thought about taking dart.
118:48Oh, we got sniped. Yeah, we got sniped. Watson, Tyson, craft, hurdy, love, golden digs, marks, chig, stripling, Tucker, Rogers, T Ferg, Tedhurst.
118:55That is, Neil, that's two shippers on the, and yet we're getting that.
119:00We're getting a B minus on the tool. Well, I'm guessing.
119:03Yeah. So we won. My, my Aaron Rogers click did not help us.
119:07That should have been a wide receiver. My guess.
119:10We, we lost a lot and we must've had some reaches in there too.
119:15Um, we took digs ahead of ADP. We took love way ahead of ADP craft ahead of ADP.
119:21Watson head of ADP scat ahead of ADP and neighbors ahead of ADP.
119:25Okay. All right. We lost a little ADP value, but Hey, what if we're right though?
119:30That's what, that's what they never, that's what they never consider.
119:34They never, yes, it's dude. It's the fun. I tell the story all the time.
119:39Cause it's so funny, but you know, I auto drafted a lot of these contests last year.
119:44Not a lot, but some of the like one and $2 ones.
119:48Yeah. And there was one set where I had like a, I want to say like a 55% advance rate or something.
119:55I changed nothing about my rules. I changed nothing about my roster constructs.
120:00I didn't even really change anything about my rankings.
120:03It just happened to be the day that Quinshon Judkins got like, what was it?
120:08It's like, he wasn't going to be charged or they're like, like chart chart has dropped like late July.
120:14I want to say maybe. So I moved him.
120:17I moved him back up to the eighties. Like I wasn't even really thinking about it.
120:22I was just like, this is where he should go.
120:25And I ran my set. And in that set, because Judkins was such a win, taking him 60 spots ahead of ADP that I advanced.
120:33But that's it. That's all it was. That was, I had a similar, like in slow drafts, like I was kind of
120:40anti Judkins and like all my content, most of the summer I was like, cause I was like, he's not with the team.
120:48I'm not confident that he's going to, but on that one day where, where the charger dropped and I was on the
120:55clock and a bunch of slow drops, I actually did it on stream.
120:59It was just like, and Judkins here and Judkins here.
121:03And it's like, you know, you know, one forties, one fifties, wherever you can get Judkins now, just like being on the
121:10clock and a bunch of slows when the news dropped was, was very helpful.
121:14So ended up overweight on Judkins despite, you know, being kind of a bear for most of the summer.
121:21Yeah. And it's, it's really, it's really that simple.
121:24Yeah. Straight up. Great. A team structure. Generally, it's actually three late tight ends, two quarterbacks in the window and generally pretty
121:31balanced, like two running backs, two wide receivers through four is generally what I find to be the highest ones.
121:37Neil, are you going to be doing any of the soccer contests?
121:41No. Cause I don't know anything about soccer and I just haven't had like, I mean, I haven't had time to do my stats course.
121:49I don't have time to be like consuming content and learning how to do soccer.
121:54So valid. All right. I'm going to let you go.
121:58You can go get ready for your stream and I'm going to knock out a couple of these drafts here at the, uh, at the end.
122:06All right. Have fun. Good luck. Cool. Take it easy.
122:09Everyone. You guys are going to be redirected to Neil in 30 minutes and that's right about when I'm going to peace out.
122:17So let's hop into, let's do a little, let's do a little world pop action.
122:22You guys can see how this stuff works in real time.
122:25I can close out of the tool because the flock fantasy tool does not work for soccer.
122:31So if you have not played any of these contests yet, it's very simple.
122:35The world cup contests work like playoff best ball.
122:38There's a $10,000 to first contest in the lobby right now, two out of six advanced, then one out of six, then one out of six.
122:47The first round of the tournament is just the qualifying round.
122:50Then it is the quarterfinal round, which is the round of 32 and the round of 16.
122:56Then the semifinals, which is the, what I guess that would be the, the actual quarterfinal, then the semifinal, then the final.
123:03Um, so the round of eight, the round of four, and then the final.
123:08So super simple. You just have to ship the, really, you're trying to build a team that can field an entire starting roster in the final.
123:16And if you want to field an entire starting roster in the final, you've got to have two forwards, a defender, you
123:23got to have a midfielder, a goalie, and then a flex position.
123:27Generally speaking, you are going to want to have a forward in the flex position.
123:32So we will begin. Uh, I generally take Harry Kane at two.
123:36Let's actually just do something different here though, because we're drafting on stream and I just want to show you guys how this works.
123:44So we're going to, we're going to try and build a France team here out of the second spot.
123:50We're going to take Michael Alise. The three best teams in world soccer for the world cup are France and Spain, small gap to England.
123:58Then you have got Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, the Netherlands, and Belgium as the next tier after that.
124:04And actually they're ordered this way, um, for the goalies that the, then there's, I would, I would include Germany in that group.
124:11Then there's a pretty big gap to the Norway, uh, to Columbia.
124:15Morocco. I actually think is pretty strong. Switzerland is a little bit underrated.
124:20The tricky balance to try and hold in these contests is basically this.
124:24How do I set up high advance rate without giving up too many teams playing in the final?
124:30So some of the highest advance rate players are Kevin De Bruyne, who goes an ADP of 46, Joshua Kimmich, who is an ADP of 47.
124:38You've got Bruno Fernandez, who is an ADP of 11.
124:41And actually Christian Pulisic is a very, very strong play in this.
124:45So if you want to, uh, you want to be supporting our boys, you can be, uh, you can be drafting our guy, Christian Pulisic.
124:53So key thing to note here, Mike, Mike non goes, he goes to the other French teams.
124:59So this guy law has us men, Dembele and Mike, Mike non.
125:03Uh, I, I will not be taking Neymar sadly.
125:06No, no Neymar for me. Um, so what we're going to do is we are going to call an audible here and
125:13we are going to switch this up because I already lost the France goalkeeper and we are going to make this a France, Portugal, and Germany team.
125:22And I'm going to show you guys how to execute that.
125:25So it's a, just a group. I really like not that they're just, you know, not a, not a ton of entries
125:33left here in the world pop, but we are going to go ahead and ship Bruno Fernandez.
125:38I think actually if you're, if you are, uh, if you're Portuguese, it's pronounced a different way.
125:44Yeah. Neuer, Neuer coming out of retirement for Germany, uh, actually is really messed up and bad for me personally, because I
125:51was drafting the Germany goalkeeper who has an ADP here.
125:54I was drafting Bowman and Bowman is, is probably not going to get any minutes.
125:59So we are now going to very sadly, but I, I'm kind of being forced into it.
126:05We're going to take Cristiano Ronaldo, who is not a particularly good pick, although he is going to score all of their
126:12penalties for the, uh, for the upcoming foreseeable future.
126:15Maybe, maybe you, maybe you get a ton of, maybe you get some penalty goals.
126:20I mean, Ronaldo is, is not a great pick.
126:23Honestly, hate pains me to say it because I am, I am such a messy guy, but messy is not a particularly,
126:30particularly good pick because Argentina, I think is a little bit overrated in this format.
126:35I don't think Argentina has, I don't know if they've got the steel, to get it done.
126:40Like I would be, I would be pretty surprised if Argentina makes it to the semifinal.
126:45Ronaldo will start at least the first game. I think probably by, by the knockout rounds, I would not be surprised.
126:52If Ron is no longer starting, I actually think they could go with, um, with Gonzalo, Gonzalo, Ramos.
126:58Maybe they would move Joe Felix to the center.
127:01I don't know. Uh, a lot of Brazil and Germany.
127:04I don't have very much Brazil. If Brazil is the team you need, that is probably of the, of the main teams,
127:12Brazil being the team you need is probably the worst for me.
127:15Now, this guy behind me should not take the Portuguese goalkeeper.
127:19He should take the Brazilian one, but I am going to be too annoyed by not getting him.
127:25So I'm going to select Diego Costa. And then I'm going to do something that is probably not what the best players do in these contests.
127:33Like this is probably not what like fear my turtle.
127:37And those guys are doing, but it is what I am going to do.
127:41Um, and I'm going to, I'm going to take Joshua Kimmich with our next pick here.
127:46So we have got how many France guys. So we have one France to Portugal.
127:51Uh, and then we are going to select Joshua Kimmich with this pick here.
127:56Actually, I'm going to take Nuno Mendez. And if I don't get Kimmich, I don't get Kimmich.
128:01Well, we'll see. Fabio Cohen. Sal might be a starter for Portugal.
128:05Well, that will not be, that will not be particularly good for me.
128:10I did. I did just take Nuno Mendez, but I don't know how good that'll be on.
128:15So how are you guys going to be locked in?
128:18Are you guys going to be watching the world cup?
128:22I I'd, I'd really love to know. Cause obviously the world cup starts on Thursday.
128:27That's going to, that's going to, uh, interfere with my streaming schedule in the sense that there's something that people really like
128:34to watch that is going to be on the same time as my stream.
128:38So I'm just very curious about your guys's, uh, overall thoughts on your, on the viewing.
128:44Cause I think some of the games are going to be on at very strange times.
128:49Right? Cause I think like some of the games are going to be on it.
128:54Like I think like one in the morning and stuff.
128:57Yeah. I, uh, I don't, I don't imagine I'm going to be up watching those games very often.
129:03I mean, let's go, let's check the world cup schedule for the first couple of days.
129:08So actually these are all really reasonable times. I mean the, the U S men's game on Friday is not on until eight.
129:16I guess it's on Friday. Um, I, I completely agree.
129:19Not, not loving, uh, FIFA watering it down. I don't love the giant field size.
129:24Uh, Ooh, attending USA versus Australia. Love that. Oi, oi, oi.
129:27Um, I'm very, I mean, I hope, I hope the U S men play well, dude.
129:33I really, I really do. All right. So we're going to ship Kimmich here and then we are going to need a French midfielder.
129:40So this is probably going to end up being Adrian Rabiot.
129:44And we are playing this one. I'm only going to take one goalie on this one.
129:49We're just going to play this one all the way with Portugal.
129:53So we have got, actually we've got, uh, no, all I was gonna say, we almost have a starting lineup, but we don't.
130:01Cause we're just using Kimmich as an advanced rate piece.
130:04And we are also just going to use Kevin De Bruyne as an advanced rate piece with this next year.
130:10And then I got to start jamming Portuguese forwards.
130:13So this would basically be the spot where I kind of have the team that I'm hoping to have in the final.
130:21Someone said Francisco Cohen. So the team that we want to have in the final is already right.
130:26We've got Alise Ronaldo, Bruno Nuno Meng and Diego Costa.
130:30Uh, and then we were thinking one of these late Portuguese forwards will potentially be our flex.
130:35I missed out on Ryan Shirky, uh, GM, GM, Jamie.
130:39Honestly, I was going to say that the opening games, it doesn't matter, right?
130:43The, the vibes are going to be good for the opening games, regardless of, uh, of what happens.
130:49I think, uh, Sala is very, very cheap. Yes, he is.
130:53And then I don't know if you guys saw this, but they have daily, they're going to have dailies for the first time ever.
131:00Um, so we've got four person drafts, five K to first for the main slate.
131:05So this is what we've got, uh, South Africa and Mexico and then Checha and Korea.
131:10Wow. All right. That is going to be super fun.
131:14So I'm going to, uh, I'm going to jam.
131:17Yeah. I mean, how has Raphael not been suspended yet after, uh, quite literally punching a guy in the face, by the way, this is absolutely killing me.
131:26Uh, the draft grades, the draft grades for a soccer draft, not, not thinking, uh, not thinking Joe ever had much time
131:33to think about what it would look like tossing this into a soccer draft.
131:38Okay. So we need four words. We think layout is going to be suspended.
131:42You know what we're going to, we're going to do.
131:45We're going to take a guy here for the vibes.
131:49The vibes are immaculate captain America, Christian Pulisic, who actually honestly is a great play.
131:54Uh, I play every soccer DFS slate on draft Kings.
131:57Honestly, I, I probably have not missed a draft slate on draft Kings and in quite some time.
132:03Well, for, for a main slate for a main slate.
132:06I mean, some of the small, like the MLS slates and stuff, I don't play.
132:11All right. And then we, do I want to take the Tinha?
132:15I do. I do want to take the Tinha.
132:18Cause he could, he could pretty easily be a flex guy if need be.
132:22Yes. Uh, Mr. Mr. Laird is going to be on the school cast tomorrow.
132:27We are going to have a huge show on this whole cast tomorrow.
132:31Oh, I mean, very, very important. If you guys do not know about this yet, uh, huge contest in the lobby over
132:38on splash sports, but we have the, Ooh, how do I, how do I pop out of that?
132:44I mean, you guys can enter that contest too, but we have a school cast survivor.
132:49Is it already full? No, here we go. Uh, game type survivor.
132:53Where is it? There you go. 20 K world cup survivor.
132:57Um, need, need you guys to hop in to this one.
133:01The, uh, this will cast 20 K world cup survivor.
133:04This is going to be a huge contest that we are all super, super engaged in over on the school cast.
133:11I can pop the link. Uh, I will share that contest link in the lobby.
133:16And then I will also share that in our YouTube stuff, but check out the school cast 20 K world cup survivor over on splash.
133:24Rafael layout still there. We just need him for the latter round.
133:28So we've got France, Portugal, Portugal, Portugal, this, uh, this one, honestly, this is a gem.
133:33We're feeling, we're feeling very good about this one.
133:36And then we'll, uh, we'll cook up a pick them.
133:39And then we will, uh, we will be on our merry way.
133:43All right. All right. What are we going to do here in term?
133:47Oh, Luis, Luis Diaz is good. Oh, he went.
133:50All right. We're going to do Memphis then. No, are we?
133:54Is there another Portuguese defender? Not really. I mean, Ruben Diaz is fine.
133:58Yeah, we'll take Ruben Diaz. That's fine. I'm probably a little bit higher on center backs than some people playing these contests.
134:05And then we will take one of these final Portuguese forwards.
134:09So we have Michael Lise, Cristiano Ronaldo, Christian Pulisic, Rafael Leal, Bruno Finanj, Kevin De Bruyne, Vitinha, Nuno Menj, Joshua Kimmich, Ruben Diaz, and Diego Costa.
134:17Uh, I don't, I don't know if, uh, I don't know if, uh, Joe Cancelo is going to start.
134:23It's not locked on, right? Why, why not Memphis, Chris?
134:27Is there something I don't know about Memphis? Mr.
134:30Memphis? Uh, what boost do we have in the lobby?
134:3330% booster Reno. We've got hoops tonight. Spurs at the Knicks.
134:36Um, what can I do for Carl Anthony towns?
134:39Can I do? Yeah. Points plus rebounds plus assists.
134:42And then there was a home run that I love tonight.
134:46Who was it? I mean, even if Memphis is off the bench, I think we're, I think we're still fine.
134:52I'm trying to remember. There was a home run one that I loved tonight.
134:57We've got cat hockey's not tonight yet. Okay. It's not until tomorrow.
135:01We are going to do home runs. Oh, let's go to the, let's go to the A's game and see if there's any good numbers here.
135:09There should be a good one. Is Soderstrom going to start?
135:13Oh, Oh, it was Bryce Terang. We're going to do a Bryce Terang home run.
135:18All right. Bang. Lock that one in. Carl Anthony towns, 33 points, press free rounds, press assists and Bryce Terang to hit a home run.
135:26Uh, Oh my gosh, dude, it was so good yesterday.
135:29The, the final women of the, uh, the final round of the U S women's open at Riviera yesterday was phenomenal.
135:36Uh, I'm going to get out of here guys.
135:39Make sure that you like the video, check out the very cool stuff over at flock fantasy.
135:45And I will be back with you guys tomorrow.
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