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The Deep End - DO NOT DRAFT These Players in Fantasy Football Until You See This! 2026 NFL Injuries

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46 min
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Jun 23, 2026
Published
Tue, June 23, 2026
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Malik NabersPatrick MahomesSam LaPortaZach CharbonnetA.J. BrownBo NixGarrett WilsonGeorge KittleJ.K. DobbinsJoe BurrowJoe MixonRJ HarveyTetairoa McMillanTory Horton
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A.J. Brown

NegativeInjury0:42

Brown has chronic knee degeneration and underwent cleanup surgery on both knees in 2021. The concern is that with no healthy knee to compensate, biomechanical stress could lead to additional injuries, and at his age, the cumulative NFL stress on his knees could manifest this year.

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Bo Nix

PositiveInjury0:41

Nix has suffered three ankle injuries and research shows a performance dip in the first year after ankle fractures that resolves by year two to three. However, as a quarterback, it's difficult to apply this research directly, and the timeline for return to competition is two to four months.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveInjury0:14

While there are questions about whether Garrett Wilson is injury-prone, the expert suggests his shutdown in 2025 may have been more about the Jets wanting to tank rather than a genuine injury concern, making it hard to definitively label him as injury-prone.

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George Kittle

PositiveInjury0:28

Kittle tore his Achilles last year but underwent a speed bridge surgical approach with an elite NFL surgeon and is on track for week one. He was performing single leg box jumps and cutting drills about five months post-op, positioning him as the preferred return-to-form candidate over Tucker Kraft.

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J.K. Dobbins

NegativeInjury0:16

Dobbins is injury-prone due to his history of multiple injuries including an Achilles tear and knee injury. Non-contact injuries like the Achilles indicate genuine injury proneness rather than just bad luck, and his injury history predisposes him to higher risk of future injuries and compensation injuries.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection0:45

Analyst uses Joe Burrow as a historical comparison for ACL injury recovery, noting that Burrow did not experience a typical first-year performance dip after his ACL injury, which the analyst expects Mahomes to replicate.

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Joe Mixon

NegativeInjury0:40

Mixon suffered a mysterious freak foot injury that kept him out for the entire season and required off-season surgery. The injury is so unknown that even his teammates don't know what happened, making him a risky bet for 2026.

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Malik Nabers

NegativeInjury0:01

Nabers underwent not just a simple ACL reconstruction but also had his lateral meniscus repaired, plus a cyclops lesion cleanup procedure that adds 1-2 weeks to recovery. Research indicates he will likely experience a production dip in his first year back, and he'll need to be ramped up throughout the season even if he returns early.

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NegativeProjection0:05

Despite being an elite player, Nabers should not be expected to perform as a first-round pick type of talent in 2026 due to historical research showing production dips following ACL reconstruction in the first year back.

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NegativeValue0:06

Nabers is probably ranked too high in redraft formats given his injury status and expected production dip in 2026, though he may represent a buying window in dynasty leagues long-term.

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Patrick Mahomes

PositiveProjection0:44

Mahomes is expected to return from his injury and have a good year in 2026. The comparison is drawn to Joe Burrow, who did not experience the typical first-year performance dip after ACL injury, suggesting Mahomes could follow a similar trajectory.

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PositiveProjection0:45

Analyst predicts Patrick Mahomes will return from injury and have a strong 2026 season, comparing him to Joe Burrow's ACL recovery trajectory and expecting him to be "back to an elite quarterback" with "best days yet to come."

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RJ Harvey

PositiveInjury0:18

Harvey underwent labral shoulder surgery with a 4-6 month recovery timeline (targeting mid-July return). Research shows 94% of NFL and NCAA players return to their prior level after labral surgeries, so if you liked him before the injury, this is a buying opportunity on the dip.

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Sam LaPorta

NegativeInjury0:08

Laporta underwent lumbar microdiscectomy surgery for a herniated disc in his lumbar spine that was causing pain, numbness, and tingling in his leg. While the surgery itself has favorable historical comps like Rob Gronkowski, there is an 8-14% re-herniation or reoperation risk.

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PositiveProjection0:12

Laporta will have approximately 10 full months post-op by Week 1, which is well above the 3.5-6 month minimum recovery window for NFL athletes returning from microdiscectomy surgery. Research shows no significant decline in pre vs. post-performance levels following this procedure, and Rob Gronkowski's favorable comp (first-team All-Pro, 1,084 yards, 8 TDs the year after his 2016 microdiscectomy) suggests Laporta can reach his pre-injury performance levels.

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Tetairoa McMillan

PositiveInjury0:25

McMillan is dealing with a nagging foot injury from the end of last year, with reports of a procedure but limited clarity on specifics. He was observed moving well in individual drills, though the lack of transparency from the team raises some concern.

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Tory Horton

PositiveInjury0:32

Horton had an ACL tear in college and a shin injury (likely a tibial stress fracture requiring surgery) that sidelined him for nine months. He is expected back for early July training camp and should be ready to perform, as the long recovery period allows for gradual strength building.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveInjury0:28

Kraft tore his ACL with meniscus debridement (not a full repair), requiring at least nine months before return to play. As an elite player, he has a better chance than typical ACL patients to avoid the historical year-one performance dip, with Gronkowski serving as a comparable comp.

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Xavier Worthy

PositiveInjury0:19

Xavier Worthy separated his shoulder in Week 1 when hit by Kelsey, but labral shoulder injuries are common and can be asymptomatic in many individuals. The extent of Worthy's injury and whether it's the same as a previous injury is unclear, and different body types may respond differently to similar injuries.

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Zach Charbonnet

NegativeInjury0:20

Charbonnet's Week 1 return is very aggressive; research shows athletes returning before 9 months post-op have up to a 7-fold increased rate of re-injury. At Week 1, he'd only be 6.5 months post-op, creating high re-injury risk. Additionally, there's typically a historical production dip in the first year following ACL reconstruction.

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NegativeValue0:21

Charbonnet should be a full fade in redraft formats due to high re-injury risk and expected production dip, making him a fool's game to draft.

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0:49Hello and welcome to the deep end. I'm your host, Johnny Tuma.
0:53You know, I am joined by a guy who's caught a lot of fire over the past couple of weeks with some
1:00really needed advice around injuries in the NFL. There's a lot of information out there.
1:05It's not all good. I was talking to our CEO, Matt Kelly, the other day.
1:10I was saying this guy, Brandon, man, he is putting out some really good work, some really informative stuff on X.
1:17And I had to get him on our show.
1:20So the deep end, you know, I've had I had an NFL player on here.
1:25We want to get some more agents. And now we've got a PT, right?
1:30So this the point of this show is to bring real experts in their space, kind of talk through what they're seeing.
1:37So Brandon, you are the injury expert. Is your thank you for joining the show.
1:42Appreciate you for having me. Of course, man. And let's get straight into it.
1:47So you've been, like I said, covering a lot of really good news this offseason.
1:52I'm going to pull up the screen real quick just to show your ex some love.
1:57I'm starting with I think the one that caught you fire was this Malik Nabors knee cleanup surgery and really in depth
2:04would encourage the people to go check it out on their own time.
2:08But I think, you know, you just you broke it down pretty simply.
2:13This was not a, you know, simple ACL repair.
2:16There's some other factors to weigh in that is going to make this a longer recovery timeline.
2:21And I think a lot of people are just they're just too ignorant to even want to take in all that information.
2:29But you really served it up for him really well with this one.
2:33Had some great coverage on Jonathan Brooks, Alec Pierce.
2:36So strongly encourage you guys to check out Brandon at fantasy footie PT.
2:40But what you can touch on any of those guys I just mentioned, but I'll start it off.
2:46Like, what's the biggest injury news this offseason? You think fantasy managers are misreading?
2:51Honestly, I think it is Malik neighbors. And I think that's probably why that that thread popped off so much, because people
2:58are not aware really of what this cleanup surgery was.
3:01First of all, he had not just a simple ACL reconstruction.
3:05He also had his lateral meniscus repaired, too, which kind of delays things in the first place anyways.
3:11And then, you know, you have to do a little bit of digging, too, as a, you know, injury analyst in this space.
3:19And they say this cleanup procedure. So I was like, well, what is that?
3:23And I think Pat McAfee actually talked about how he heard it was a cyclops lesion.
3:29And so basically what that is, it's just a massive tissue that can prevent the knee from fully straightening.
3:35So that could have been bottlenecking some of his his rehab goals and his his his return to sport.
3:41So that's probably why they needed to go through that pretty quickly.
3:45But that's not you know, people say that's simple.
3:48But in my opinion, that's going to add on at least a couple of weeks.
3:53And that's kind of what the research says, too.
3:56Looking at that thread and the research I did adds about one to two weeks to get to some of the range of motion goals back.
4:05So you can clear that that that that tissue in there.
4:08But and it can be straight intraoperatively in the operating room, but you still have to go through the rehab process a
4:16little bit to to get that full range of motion back there, too.
4:20And then you can't just, you know, jump right back into what you're doing before.
4:25So it's going to take another one to two weeks.
4:28I think I said a thread about two to four weeks to get back in total.
4:34So it's not as simple. I don't think as people are putting it out to be in as as the Giants maybe are suggesting it is as well.
4:43So I think a lot of things have to go right for him.
4:47And it's not just a seamless, seamless recovery there.
4:50Well, and it sounded like from what I read from your thread, it's also, you know, like guarantee.
4:56It's almost actually guaranteed that he's not going to be 100 percent in his first year back.
5:02Right. If it was a simple ACL tear, it may be a little more straightforward.
5:07But I think some of the research you saw was that a majority of athletes who go through similar procedures really there.
5:14We shouldn't have the expectations that we have that this guy is going to be a first round pick type of talent in 2026.
5:22Is that correct? I'd say that that is and that's what the historical research says.
5:27Typically, after in general, after really any ACL reconstruction, the research is pretty consistent in the fact that there is normally at
5:34least the first year following a production dip. Now, there's obviously exceptions to that.
5:39And Malik Nabors is such an elite player that he may be an exception to that as well.
5:45But in general, going through all the research, it does seem that there's going to be a production dip for at least the first year.
5:53And he's probably going to need to be ramped up to throughout the season, even if he does return early, like week
6:00one to four, I think is probably week one.
6:03I think is optimistic, but it's possible. But he'll still need to be ramped up throughout the season as well.
6:10So I think he can do it because he's such an elite player, but you also have to be cautious with these types of injuries.
6:18Yeah, I think I think people got to pump the brakes on him a bit.
6:23I think he's probably around or too too high in redraft that, you know, I typically I have a dynasty show on player profile or as well.
6:32I look I love looking at through things through a dynasty lens.
6:36I think, you know, you've kind of said, hey, long term, this isn't a huge concern.
6:41Like he'll shake this off after a couple of years.
6:45Right. So if people are spooked, maybe it's a buying window and dynasty.
6:49But in redraft, I think we got to pump the brakes a bit.
6:53This is a guy who could miss a couple of the weeks to start the season and then not be 100 percent in 2026.
7:01So really good analysis on him. I again, I encourage you guys to go check out the full thread.
7:08Brandon, another thing you do that I like is you link all the research that you've done.
7:13And like so it's like, what are you what are you going to say to me now?
7:19You know, so I love it. No, it could.
7:22The first I think thread. I don't know if I linked it for neighbors, but the first thread because, you know, in
7:29school and PT school, obviously not citing your sources is like the worst thing possible.
7:34So it felt really weird to not do that.
7:37I think I made I made a YouTube video and I think that's where I posted the links.
7:43But it still felt really weird. So I made it, I think, a tweet a couple of days there is like, would
7:50you guys want to see the links? And I was like, you know, why not just it won't be that hard to
7:58I don't want to cite them, you know, formally.
8:01I can just throw the links in. So, yeah, it's not like people are going to be digging into a reading every word of them.
8:09Right. Yeah. We're fantasy football fans. We're not physical therapists.
8:12Right. At the end of the day. But that's what you're here for.
8:16So now we're going to get into like this is what I'm most excited about is some of the guys that like
8:24there is not a lot of good answers on.
8:27So I'm going to put you to the test, man, because I like it really good.
8:32Sam Laporta. I mean, I could just like stop there.
8:35And I think we could just like let that breathe for a minute.
8:40Like Sam Laporta. What are we doing with this guy?
8:43A back surgery. I was telling you before the show, I just did a trade in a 10 team dynasty league where
8:50I traded away Sam Laporta and Garrett Wilson to get Trey McBride.
8:54Um, I, I think that the concerns about Trey McBride, like falling off a cliff is overblown.
9:00I think he's going to be in a thousand yard tight end and that's a difference maker in the 10 team dynasty league.
9:07But what also scared me away and wanted me to make the trade is I just don't have a lot of data or evidence on back surgeries.
9:16This scares the hell out of me. Laporta is like a guy.
9:20I love player tough as nails. Um, you know, he's, he's battled through some stuff in his first few years.
9:27So when they put them on IR immediately after this injury and his season was over, it just, it, it's been weird.
9:34And now he's walking around at walkthroughs, right? Like we're hearing he's participating, but I'm not hearing, Oh, he's running out there a hundred percent fully ready.
9:43It sounds like he's, it's very light work he's doing.
9:46So can you tell me what type of research you've done on this sort of industry or injury and like what level
9:54of confidence you have that he returns to a hundred percent and when that would be?
9:59Yeah. So doing some digging, it sounds like he had a herniated disc in his lumbar spine.
10:05And it's kind of funny cause I'm a, I'm an outpatient physical therapist.
10:09I deal with a lot of, um, you know, a lot of different things, but I'd say this is probably one of
10:16the things that I see the most in my clinic.
10:20Um, it sounds like he was having some pain and inner numbness tingling that was going on his leg.
10:26Um, that started after some hits he was taking against the commanders in week 10.
10:31Um, some, I think it was Dan, I don't know someone, Dan Campbell, someone was saying he was looking like he was
10:38walking like an 80 year old man. So obviously that's, that's the concern there right away.
10:43But, um, it looks like the surgery he underwent was, uh, a lumber lumbar micro disectomy.
10:49So, um, just to break it down a little bit in the, uh, in the, in the spine, you have your vertebrae
10:56and then in between you have your discs. Um, there's a hard, the disc has a hard outer shell and a kind of soft gel like inner shell.
11:05And what can happen with a disc herniation is the soft inner gel will kind of like break the hard shell.
11:12And that soft gel like substance puts a little pressure on one of the nerves that's nearby the, the, the lumbar spine there.
11:20So what the surgery basically does is it, um, it goes in there and it, it takes the stress off of the
11:27nerve root and takes the gel off of that nerve root.
11:31It doesn't necessarily, you know, repair the, the, uh, the tear itself, but it can clean up some of that area that's
11:38compressing on that nerve, which can lead to weakness going down the leg.
11:42Uh, the numbness and tingling and the pain going down the leg because the, the nerve that nerves that come out of
11:50the lumbar spine, they impact going down the leg.
11:53So taking stress off that is just kind of the first step.
11:57You also have to one build up the area around.
12:00So a lot of things that I'll work on with my patients, um, working on your deep core strength, your obliques, your
12:07hip mobility, your thoracic, your upper spine, your mid spine mobility.
12:11Um, and of course he has to now get to the point where he's ready to take NFL contact, which I obviously
12:18don't do that with a lot of my, well, any of my patients.
12:22So looking at the research, um, one, I looked at a historical comp.
12:27I think one favorable comp is Rob Gronkowski. He actually had a micro disectomy in 2016.
12:32So he was 27 at the time and Laporta is 25 right now, I believe.
12:37So, and the next year he went on to, you know, be first team all pro, uh, 1084 yards, eight touchdowns.
12:44So, so that's a, that's a favorable comp for him looking at the research specifically following a micro disectomy surgery.
12:51Um, statistically, it actually, most of the time, there's no significant decline in pre performance levels versus post performance levels or career longevity.
12:58There is around an eight to 14% re herniation risk or a reoperation risk.
13:03So that's one thing you may be concerned about, but week one is going to be around nine and a half months post-op for him.
13:11Um, and it looks like Campbell said he's pretty confident for week one.
13:15Um, I'd say, and looking at the research too, it looks like around three and a half to six months.
13:22Minimum is when, when NFL athletes are expected to return from something like this.
13:27So he'll have around a 10 full months. So I think that's a massive advantage for him to be eased back into that contact.
13:35Um, like I said before, you know, NFL context, obviously a lot different and to be able to, to gradually build yourself
13:42up to that, I think it's going to be important for him.
13:46So I'm, I think Laporta will, will reach his pre performance levels.
13:50Um, in my opinion, it's just about being a little bit careful as, as his rehab progresses.
13:56Yeah, man, dude, super, super insightful. Really, really well done there.
13:59Um, just to recap, you talked about, he has much longer recovery period than the typical recovery period is kind of what I heard from you there.
14:08There's a small re-injury risk, but it sounds like in 2026, we can expect the type of production we've been seeing from
14:15him the first few years of his career. Uh, awesome home run answer, man.
14:20Again, probably wish I would have asked you and gotten on with you before I did that trade.
14:26Maybe try to squeeze a little more out of that guy.
14:30Um, but I'm still sleeping at night. Okay. Uh, you know, they're okay.
14:34Totally off the cuff question here, right? Trey McBride and I traded Garrett Wilson and Laporta.
14:39Mm-hmm. Laporta had an injury concern. Part of me also was like, man, is this guy Garrett Wilson a little bit injury prone?
14:47Uh, you don't have to answer yes to Garrett Wilson if you don't like know off the top of your head.
14:54But like, is there anything there that just got feeling you're like, hey, yeah, some players are more injury prone than others?
15:01You know, that's actually something just in general. Someone I did.
15:05My first thread was of Jordan Tyson. And someone asked me, well, is, is, is injury prone actually a thing?
15:11Or is it more so like one injury predisposes you for a risk for that same injury or a compensation injury?
15:18So that's a really interesting question. I was thinking about making maybe like a, just a deep dive on is injury proneness in itself a thing?
15:27Honestly, it's, it's hard to say for Garrett Wilson.
15:30He might just have been shut down just because the Jets, you know, wanted to tank a little bit.
15:36That's my first gut reaction. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I didn't, I didn't really look into that.
15:42So yeah, no, I didn't put that on the sheet.
15:45So I'm throwing you off. Uh, I thought about adding it late at night.
15:49Cause it was something I was thinking about. I'm like, Hmm, scary.
15:53Wilson injury prone, but you know, transitioning a little bit.
15:57Cause you, you said something there about, Hey, like compensation.
16:00And I wanted to talk about RJ Harvey next, but you also did a really good thread on JK Dobbins.
16:07And I think that is a guy you would say, and I would look you in the face based on what you put the thread together.
16:15That is the definition of injury prone, right? Where you've had an Achilles tear, you've had a knee injury, and now you
16:23are more prone to compensate and therefore re aggravate a new area, re aggravate some of those old injuries.
16:29Would you label JK Dobbins? I mean, like this is, this is an, this is a layup, right?
16:35But I mean, can you stand a little bit more as like, it's not just, I mean, it kind of is because of the previous injuries.
16:43We, we have a hunch that again, it's not just, Oh, this guy gets dinged up all the time.
16:50He gets it, but it's because he's been dinged up so much in the past that now he is inevitably at a higher risk of injury.
16:58I think some of, some of it is, is injury proneness.
17:02Some of it is unlucky too, because I mean, um, I can't remember, uh, how exactly Dobbins injured for his ACL at the first place.
17:10But a lot of these things are like contact injuries where, you know, that is unlucky.
17:16Um, but some of the things, you know, like the non-contact or the Achilles, um, that to me indicates a little bit
17:23more injury proneness rather than if he were to, you know, get hit in the knee and, and just haven't, you know,
17:30his, his, uh, ACL injured that way. So, yeah, I think, I think he is a little injury prone just because of
17:37how many injuries he has had at this stage.
17:40But again, I think that's something I want to dive into that, that title of injury proneness and how actually true that
17:48that is, or is it more so the injuries before that predisposed them to future?
17:53So, right. Right. Well, very interesting. And again, I mentioned kind of the other, both the Broncos main starters kind of dealing with things, right?
18:01RJ Harvey had some sort of shoulder injury, uh, during the AFC conference championship game that he had operated on.
18:08Can you just walk us through the injury timeline recovery and any impact it has on his redraft or dynasty value?
18:15And I know you put a thread together on this, so you don't have to, you can't just summarize it.
18:21Yeah. So, uh, he had a labral injury, um, that required surgery.
18:25So not really sure if it was a labor repair or just like a debridement type of thing, but labor repair would
18:32typically be a timeline of like a four to six month type of thing.
18:37Um, so that's looking around like the mated July range, um, for Harvey.
18:41Um, just one of the research articles I looked at showed that, um, NFL and NCAA NCAA players showed that 94% were
18:49able to return to their prior level after labor surgeries.
18:52So honestly, I don't think I'm just going off of that.
18:56Not super concerned about this for Harvey. So if you liked him before the injury, I think I would, I'd buy him for the dip from this case.
19:05So, yeah, yeah, no, and that's, that's really good stuff from you again.
19:09I think the other, uh, but maybe poke on this a little bit.
19:13Didn't Xavier worthy go through something similar? I'm honestly, I can't remember about Xavier worthy.
19:18Did he have a shoulder thing too? Yeah. He like when, um, Kelsey hit him in week one and like separated his
19:26shoulder, I guess I just heard some fantasy analysts out there saying like, oh, it's the same injury that he had and it ruined his whole year.
19:35And they're still easing him back and stuff like that.
19:38And it's like, uh, Hey, I don't know the extent of how true that is.
19:43And be like, they're, they're different body types. You know, I don't know.
19:47Also, I talk about this with, with my patients all the time to, uh, uh, a labral shoulder injury is kind of common.
19:55Like they've, they've done studies before where asymptomatic individuals in there, you know, even in their twenties and thirties, they have labral
20:02shoulder injuries or shoulder tears that you just don't necessarily feel.
20:06Um, and they don't always have to be symptomatic, but it could have just been, I'm not sure in that and Xavier
20:13worthy's case, but it could have just been a side, um, um, thing that, you know, but this other injury too.
20:20So. Okay. Um, we'll do one more running back here.
20:23Zach Charbonnet. Again, we're starting to see some reports from Mike McDonald, anything's possible.
20:28He could be back week one that feels aggressive.
20:31Um, can you just expand a little bit like realistic timeline for him to return and how are you approaching that backfield as a result?
20:39Yeah. So yeah, I think week one's very aggressive for, for Zach Charbonnet.
20:44Um, just going off of research, uh, I would say around nine months at least is what I would like to see.
20:51Research shows that before then, if athletes return, there's a, up to a seven fold increased rate of re-injury.
20:57Um, and I know this has happened before in the NFL and some, some have, you know, you know, done well before nine months.
21:05But to me, that's just too much of a risk going off of what the research says.
21:11Um, so again, week one, he'd be six and a half months post-op.
21:15So that's, that's very, very early. Wow. Nine months for him would be week 11.
21:20So if he does return week one, I would say there's a pretty high chance that he has a re-injury to whether
21:27it be the ACL, maybe it is a compensation type of injury.
21:31So, and not only that I mentioned before, there's typically a historical dip, um, following an ACL reconstruction, uh, the first year back at least.
21:40So yeah, I'm not, I'm not super high on Zach Charbonnet for that reason.
21:44And that's why I, I kind of liked Jerry and price at least for this year.
21:49Yeah, dude. It sounds like he's gotta be a full fade.
21:53You know what I mean? Like it just sounds like taking him in any sort of redraft is just a fool's game.
22:00Um, and you sometimes, this is why I wanted to get you on, man.
22:05We have to break through the coach speak and bring some common sense into the equation.
22:10Right. And, um, yeah, I don't love Jadarian price either, but I think he is going to walk into a big opportunity.
22:18Um, but Hey man, there's other backs in that backfield.
22:21Right. So I think it's, it's, it's an interesting backfield.
22:24Right. Um, but I'm staying away from Zach Charbonnet for sure.
22:28So, uh, well, really good first half men guys do not go anywhere because we are just getting started with this stuff.
22:35We've got some really good, we got, we're going to talk, talk her craft.
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25:35Let's go with the rookie of the year, Tetaroa McMillan.
25:38We're hearing some reports nagging foot injury. I think he was dealing with a foot injury at the end of last year.
25:45Man, this is exactly why I've got you on the show today.
25:49I don't have time to dig into all this crap.
25:53What's going on? Is there cause for serious concern with Tetaroa McMillan?
25:56I honestly feel like I'm going to let you down a little bit this one because there's this type of procedure it was, what had been causing this.
26:06So unfortunately for Tet, I want to just kind of guess in this case or speculate.
26:11Yeah. And some of the clips, just looking at it, it looked like he was moving pretty well on some of the individual drills.
26:19So that's a positive. So yeah, just not, not a ton of, I could find for Tet McMillan.
26:25But he looked like I said, it looked like he was moving well.
26:29Like, cause that kind of concerns me when you don't have a lot of clarity.
26:34They're not outward about what's going on. Like, do we have any things you can think back of players that have been through?
26:42Like, I hate to be like this, but I got Joe Mixon on the show sheet for a foot injury.
26:48Right. He didn't hear much about that. It wasn't a big deal.
26:52And then now his career is over. Now that was a totally different story.
26:57He did something. There was some freak accident where you and I are going to take our guesses later on the show on what that freak accident was.
27:06But you get what I'm saying. There's just, does that cause any concern or he's just like, oh, that's pretty typical.
27:13There's a lot of these injuries where we don't have all the information and we sort of just have to assume the best.
27:21Well, if it is the same foot and I actually, I saw a tweet from, from Jeff Mueller shout out him, but
27:28he was saying part of it could be that maybe some hardware irritation.
27:33If it is the same foot, you know, from the surgery.
27:36So that could be a thing. I wouldn't think that would be too much of a concern, especially if he's moving pretty well.
27:44And some of the clips, like I saw, he was doing like ladder drills and he was moving pretty well in the
27:51individual team or in the individual team in individual drills.
27:54So. Yeah, I, it's, it's so hard to speculate.
27:57It could be the opposite foot. It could just be like a plantar fasciitis.
28:02It could be who knows, like a turf toe.
28:05So, so it's, it's so hard to, to look at Tett McMillan and give you, give you a finalized or a concrete answer.
28:13But you're not scared away then? Like if he's on the board at value.
28:17Going off of the clips, I think, I think it's a wait and see, but going off of the clip that I
28:25saw, he, he was moving pretty well. Okay. So no major concern for you there, but something to certainly monitor, see if we can get more information on.
28:34Okay. Let's talk tight ends, man. George Kittle and Tucker Kraft, right?
28:38Both solid, solid top of the heap tight ends.
28:41George Kittle tears his Achilles last year. Tucker Kraft tears his ACL.
28:45Which one are you more confident in looking like themselves in 2026 and like at value at cost, you know, Kraft's a little bit more expensive, right?
28:54Obviously in dynasty is much younger, but even in redraft, he's going in like pick 75 range where Kittle's going like pick
29:01105 to all the way to 120 range. Which one are you more confident in returning to form in 2026 and which
29:08one would you like part two of that question is which one do you think is the better value?
29:15Yeah. I honestly, I kind of like both of them.
29:18I know I mentioned, let's start with Kraft. So the ACL reconstruction, just meniscus debridement.
29:23So that's a lot different than a meniscus repair where it's kind of delaying some of that healing.
29:29Um, so I, I did mention before nine months, want to see at least nine months before they return to just make
29:36sure there's not that increased injury risk. Um, and a lot of this return, I didn't mention this before, but comes down
29:43to how well that's that single leg, that single leg is able to perform jumping stability.
29:49Um, the strength of that leg compared to the other leg, um, a lot of times in the clinic I'll test, um,
29:56like single leg, how high can they jump on the single leg compared to the uninjured leg or how far can they jump or a triple hop.
30:05So those are things that I'd be looking for with Kraft if I was there.
30:10Um, in addition to the nine months. Um, and like I mentioned, there is a historical dip a year after ACL injuries,
30:17but there are cases where this isn't, isn't true.
30:20Um, and I think for elite players, they're probably more likely to not have this sort of dip in the first year.
30:27And I use this comp earlier, uh, Gronkowski had ACL and MCL, uh, surgery.
30:32He returned after only eight months, which is actually before the nine month timeline.
30:37Um, and he had again, a great year after his first year back.
30:41So that's, I think Kraft is the type of elite player that I think can have this type of similar thing.
30:48But again, the, the, the historical research does show there's a, there's a dip year one, sometimes even going into year two.
30:55So that's something I'd be concerned about. Kittle, um, you know, with Achilles repairs, there's so much that is being advanced in the rehab for it.
31:04Um, he had now just going back into the research, it actually says 11 months for Achilles repair, but he didn't have the typical repair.
31:12He had what's called a speed bridge approach with, um, an elite NFL surgeon.
31:17Uh, and so he says he's on track for week one, just going off some of his quotes, he was doing single
31:24leg box jumps, um, cutting drills, running drills. That was about five months post-stop.
31:29Um, so he still has some months to progress to that NFL contact research.
31:33I actually does show decreased performance year one after Achilles repair too.
31:37So both research for both cases shows that there's typically a decline.
31:41I think just because they're both, you know, elite players in their position, I think they can both get back to that performance.
31:49I'm going to go with Kittle here just because I think one, he has a little bit more experience.
31:55So he can maybe use that a little bit in his, in his game compared to craft who maybe relies a little bit more on his traits.
32:04Yeah. Um, so I do like both of them, but just for that reason, I'm going to go with Kittle.
32:11Plus I actually tore my Achilles while I was in PT school.
32:15So I always liked to bet on the Achilles guys.
32:18That's why I'm George Kittle. Are you walking around with a limp or how are you doing?
32:24Oh, I'm perfect. Perfect. I still play, you know, I'm, I'm a soccer player.
32:28I play, play the soccer, the men's league, uh, volleyball real into that.
32:33So I, Hey, I feel like I met my prior performance.
32:36So. Oh, okay. That's, that's great to hear, man.
32:39You, uh, okay. So let's talk Tori Horton a little bit next, man.
32:43This guy, I have a lot of love for.
32:46I'm born in Colorado. So I'm always watching, uh, college football up there.
32:51Heart and soul of CSU, um, had an ACL tear in college.
32:55Uh, that really drove him down draft boards, but I knew it was going to be a major value in the fifth
33:02round, uh, for, for the Seahawks started to break out, right.
33:06Started to have the best game of his career, two touchdowns, and then misses the rest of the season.
33:12And they said it was a shin injury and it was, there's just not a lot of information out there.
33:19And I'm curious to see what you pulled together on this one.
33:23Yeah. When I was at the super bowl, I asked him, Hey, like, what is this shin injury?
33:29Can you just tell me what's going on a little more?
33:32And he basically said something to the tune of like, I really rushed it back from the ACL.
33:38And, uh, this is just kind of a, um, a symptom of that.
33:42But what's causing me a bit of pause is like, I've never heard of a shin injury that is going to be almost a nine month recovery period.
33:52Like they're talking about this guy. Oh, you know, we're going to not do mini camp.
33:57We'll get, we'll see if we can get them ready for training camp.
34:01Like what type of injury could possibly go be going on.
34:05And is it, is it a longterm like issue?
34:08Do you know what I mean? And how would you explain this?
34:12Like, I, I always like to say, you know, explain it to me.
34:16Like I'm five years old. Yeah. Yeah. So sounds like going off of his, his history.
34:22Well, let's start in November. He went on the IR did that due to that shin injury.
34:27Um, again, unknown exactly what this was. Sounds like they tried to manage it conservatively.
34:32So without surgery, and then they re they did more imaging on it.
34:36And they found that, oh, we actually need to do some, some surgery on this.
34:41So going off of that, it sounds like maybe it was a, a tibial or a shin stress fracture that they wanted
34:49to eventually, you know, maybe they, they re-imaged it and they found, you know, a more clear line or, or so they
34:56went through a surgery surgical process for that. Um, going off research with tibial stress fractures that require surgery.
35:02It is, it is a pretty favorable, um, return one return to play.
35:07And it, and it sounds like just going off the quotes from Mike McDonald, um, sounds like he's, he's starting to come back into, into training camp.
35:16So I think if he's sounds like he's going to be back in early July.
35:20So I think because he's, he's back and because he said so long, you know, it's not always a bad thing just
35:28because you have such a long recovery. Sometimes that's good to be able to gradually return to things, build up the strength
35:35required so you don't get another injury. So if he's back in early July, I think I'm, I'm, I'm okay with betting on him this year.
35:44So in any type of digging you've done on that, that type of injury, that stress fracture in the shin and, and
35:51kind of performance dips, anything like that, that you can add in terms of insight.
35:56Yeah, there, there, I think there was a performance dip for some cases, but again, I, it's just, there wasn't a lot of info on that specifically.
36:05Um, so I don't have concrete research for you for that, but again, I'd be, I'd be okay with betting on him
36:12just because one, there is that, that like, like, like I said, long recovery process that we don't really know what the
36:19surgery was at least from what I saw either.
36:22But I think if he's ready for July, I don't think it's going to be something that's going to impact him that much.
36:30In my opinion, that's not going off of research or anything like that.
36:34So, yeah, no, I appreciate it. And, and I'm, I'm of a similar mind that he's had a lot of time, um,
36:42to recover and he should be able to hit, hit the guns blazing, right.
36:46And be a hundred percent. Um, but again, there's just so much there that kind of like Ted, uh, Mcmillan, like we
36:54were talking about, there's just, we don't have all the, the facts on the table.
36:58And so I think that's one to kind of continue to keep an eye on as well.
37:04One, one kind of last big name I want to talk about is TJ Hawkinson.
37:09Um, and, and the reason being right, he is, he had a brutal, brutal knee injury a few years back.
37:16It was one of those contact injuries where like a player drove, dove straight for his knees.
37:21Right. I believe it was multi-ligament. Um, and so I say all of that because I've seen it in, in my fantasy
37:29football life where, Oh, two years go by Javante Williams, top of mind example.
37:33This guy's got no juice. He's cooked. He's a shell of himself.
37:37Like I'm a Broncos fan. I was fully convinced when he went to the Cowboys, Javante Williams, that they were getting dusty old dried up goods, you know?
37:47But again, I think it was that almost like third year back from a multi-ligament injury.
37:52He really started to look like the former form of himself with the Cowboys last year.
37:57You got a new quarterback with Kyler Murray. You're, I think, like I said, almost three years removed from that gruesome leg injury.
38:05The past couple of years for Hawkinson have been a shell of his former production where he was like an all pro previously.
38:12Is there any chance that the lack of production from the last few years, I, I kind of see it when I
38:20watched the film that he's lumbering around out there.
38:23He's heavy footed. Like, do you think that that could be something that he moves past in 2026 and starts to return
38:30to form and could potentially be like a sneaky target for, uh, fantasy managers?
38:35I think, I think there is a good chance of that.
38:38You mentioned Javante, um, coming back, you know, year three.
38:41Typically when you get, when you have an ACL reconstruction, the graft undergoes what's called a re-ligamentization process.
38:47So it's gaining that strength back over time. Um, not, it doesn't quite reach back to what the original ACL was, but
38:55it, it'll get back to its full strength around that two year mark.
38:59And that two year post-op from surgery for Hawkinson is, was January, 2026.
39:03So I think another full off season of training with that increased graft strength, maybe increased confidence.
39:09Um, I think that could provide a boost in his performance this year.
39:13And, and you're right. That is well-documented where in that year three, there is, there is that performance boost in, in some
39:21cases like what Javante, there is some research that says in NFL specific, specifically NFL athletes that, that drop off can go into years three and four.
39:30So again, it's not like it's a guaranteed thing, but that's just because that strength is back to where it's going to
39:37be in most cases around that two year mark.
39:40I think there is a chance that he can, he can get back and, and maybe be more of him himself before the injury this year.
39:48Yeah, man. He's just, he's so cheap. That's the reason I wanted to talk about him is he just seems like an
39:56afterthought at this point and, and rightly so with the production the past two years, but I just don't think people are
40:03really, uh, taking the full picture into account. So I wanted to touch on him for a second.
40:09Uh, let's close it out with a few fun topics.
40:12What happened to Joe Mixon, man? My guess is that he literally shot himself in the foot, or I was thinking about this just now.
40:21Maybe he dropped a bowling ball on it. Those are my two guesses.
40:25Those are something silly. He would do, uh, anything, any funny guesses as what happened to Joe Mixon.
40:31Honestly, you're, I could see, I could see the, the, the shooting himself in the foot.
40:36Honestly, it's, it's so unknown that any, and it's such a freak injury.
40:40Even some of his teammates were saying they didn't really know what was going on with them.
40:46So, um, I know he went, he underwent surgery in it, in the off season.
40:51Um, if it was truly that freak enough to keep him out for the entire season.
40:56Um, yeah, I, I don't think I'm too willing to bet on him.
41:01Um, going into this year and I don't think anyone will.
41:04So maybe, maybe at throw him in at the end of your, your best ball.
41:09Dude. I don't know. I don't think I would be off the boards, man.
41:14Nobody's touching this guy and I don't, I don't blame them, but it's just, it's just so funny.
41:20We have no information. Even I was looking at the quotes.
41:23It's like, even his teammates don't know, like, like that's, that's crazy.
41:27Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'm sure some of them do, you know what I mean?
41:32And I, I, there will be a day where the truth comes out.
41:36Right. Um, so any big name players that you're sneakily concerned about long-term, like I thought of Bo Nix as an example,
41:44I think he's had like three ankle injuries now, right?
41:47Uh, the dynasty value is still sky high for him.
41:50Are there, don't say Bo Nix just cause I told you to say it, but like any other guys, uh, that you're sneakily concerned about long-term.
41:59Yeah. I'll touch on Bo Nix first and then I'll give you my, um, I don't think a ton of people are
42:06talking about the player I'm going to mention, but, um, but Bo Nix.
42:10Yeah. He research does say after a right ankle fracture and, and, you know, return, there is a performance dip in the
42:18first year, um, that resolves by year two to three.
42:21It's hard to apply that to quarterbacks though. And there's no position specific rank, uh, you know, research on that.
42:28So it's hard for me to, to say that he's for sure going to dip in performance just because it's such a
42:35different position, the quarterback compared to, you know, wide receiver or running back or anything like that.
42:41Um, typically timeline for return is two to four months in return to competition for NFL athletes.
42:46Like I said, yeah, it's just with, because he's a quarterback.
42:50I I'm okay with, with betting on him this year.
42:53One player that I'm, I think is kind of sneakily concerning.
42:57Um, and that kind of came up on when he was traded.
43:01AJ Brown is, does have chronic knee degeneration, according to some of the new England team doctors.
43:06So he did have surgery on both knees because of the generative change.
43:11It sounds like it was like a cleanup, um, on both knees.
43:15And I think it was 2021. So the reason I'm a little bit concerned about that one, the fact that it's both
43:22knees, we talked a little bit about compensation injuries before.
43:25So if there's no necessarily good knee in a sense, um, that the biomechanics can kind of altered in that sense and
43:33put stress in other areas and maybe cause some additional injuries.
43:36Now he's done well since 2021, but with obviously the NFL.
43:40It's significant stress you're putting on your knees year in, year out.
43:44So it could be that this is the year where he maybe feels that a little bit more and is, you know,
43:51he's getting up, you know, older in terms of age too.
43:55So, um, he's been fine the past couple of years, but it's definitely a sneaky one to, you know, be a little bit concerned about.
44:03No, I'm man. I'm glad you said him because there was some quote he had like after their Superbowl with the Eagles
44:10where he's talking about getting his knee drained like twice a week.
44:14And I'm like, Oh yeah, I did. I'm not a doctor, but anybody who's draining their knee twice a week is probably
44:22not someone to like go hitch your wagon to for the next five years.
44:26Right. And so that one is so risky, man.
44:29Cause he could literally be Randy Moss, right? Like Josh McDaniel was the coordinator when Randy Moss came there to new England and had an incredible season.
44:38You got Drake may throwing him the football. Like if he can stay healthy, he's, he's an awesome target, but I do agree.
44:46Those are, there's some serious concerns there, especially longterm.
44:49So really glad you brought him up. Let's close it out, man.
44:53Give me one bold prediction for the 2026 season.
44:56Yeah. I don't know if this is considered bold, but, um, I, we talked a little bit about quarterbacks, um, and how they're a little bit different.
45:05I think Patrick Mahomes is going to come back from his injury.
45:09I think he's going to have a good year.
45:12Um, I look at a historical comp, like, uh, for example, Joe Burrell.
45:16Um, we talked about how ACL injuries first year back as performance dip.
45:20Um, and Joe Burrell didn't have that. I think Patrick Mahomes is going to be similar in the fact that I think
45:28he's going to return and be, be better than he was even in the past year or so too.
45:34So, so that's my bold prediction. I think Patrick Mahomes is going to be back to an elite quarterback.
45:40You heard it here first guys. Best days are yet to come for, uh, for I'm thinking Joe Burrell.
45:46Cause you just said I'm best days are ahead for the greatest quarterback of all time.
45:52Most likely Patrick Mahomes.

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