Fantasy Price Check - 2026 Fantasy Football Mock Draft
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41 min
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Aug 29, 2026
Published
Sat, August 29, 2026
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Player insights
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Players mentioned
Topics
Jonathon BrooksKeaton MitchellMike EvansA.J. BrownChase BrownChris OlaveDeebo SamuelJ.K. DobbinsJalen CokerJeremiyah LoveJonah ColemanJordyn TysonJustin HerbertJuwan Johnson
Player analysis
Player insights
A.J. Brown
PositiveProjection25:08
Pete justifies drafting AJ Brown at 2.01 over Justin Jefferson, arguing that Drake Maye is a superior quarterback for facilitating production compared to Kyler Murray. Pete expresses concerns about the Vikings' offense and Kyler Murray's ability to play on schedule, while noting AJ Brown benefits from a lack of target competition.
Insight pageChase Brown
PositiveValue3:43
Pete frequently targets Chase Brown at the turn in his drafts, viewing him as a primary running back option to anchor his roster in the early rounds.
Insight pageChris Olave
NegativeUsage6:31
Pete selects Chris Olave in the middle rounds as part of a strategy to double-tap wide receivers in a start-three-wide-receiver format to avoid chasing the position later.
Insight pageDeebo Samuel
NegativeValue28:07
Matt Kelley is excited about Deebo Samuel at his current ADP of around 120, citing his role in the offense and the team's contract commitment. Kelley views him as a low-risk, high-reward bet who could see increased usage as a 'wide back' due to thin running back depth.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeRole30:51
Matt Kelley acknowledges JK Dobbins as the early-down back in Denver but notes that his injury history and status as a non-long-term piece for the team create uncertainty regarding his season-long workload.
Insight pageJalen Coker
PositiveValue22:30
Pete ranks Jalen Coker in his top 100 (98th overall) and likes him due to the lack of target competition on his team.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
NegativeRole5:30
Wyatt selects Jeremiah Love in the third round to lock in a running back he feels confident in, despite acknowledging a minor injury concern during camp.
Insight pageJonah Coleman
NegativeUsage30:42
Matt Kelley and his co-host debate Jonah Coleman's value, with Kelley noting that while he was a best-ball target earlier in the offseason, his rising ADP makes him a riskier redraft pick. Kelley highlights Coleman's pass-blocking ability and Sean Payton's interest as reasons for potential year-one relevance.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
NegativeValue12:27
Wyatt notes that Jonathan Brooks is shooting up draft boards but remains low in Sleeper ADP. Pete expresses skepticism about the current rising price of Brooks.
Insight pageNegativeValue26:13
Matt Kelley believes Jonathan Brooks is being over-drafted in the fifth round, noting that while he is talented, the price is too high given his injury history and the team's offensive line concerns. Kelley prefers him in the 70s or 80s ADP range.
Insight pageJordyn Tyson
NegativeValue23:37
Matt Kelley and his co-host agree that Jordan Tyson is a target for the 10th to 12th round range. Kelley advises against drafting him in the first 100 picks due to injury concerns, but suggests he is a viable stash for IR spots to allow for roster churning early in the season.
Insight pageJustin Herbert
PositiveValue12:09
Wyatt selects Justin Herbert in the seventh round because he genuinely likes the player and prefers taking a quarterback he feels good about when the board gets thin.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveRole15:47
Pete and Wyatt are high on Juwan Johnson, noting that the injury to Jordan Tyson and reduced target competition with Kamara creates a significant opportunity for him to be a reliable tight end.
Insight pageKeaton Mitchell
PositiveSleeper20:41
Matt Kelley loves Keaton Mitchell's price on Sleeper, noting he is cheaper on non-best ball sites due to uncertainty regarding his availability. Kelley believes there is a realistic path to a weekly role that makes him relevant in seasonal leagues.
Insight pagePositiveValue34:01
Wyatt loves Keaton Mitchell's price on Sleeper, noting that while he may be harder to predict for seasonal leagues, his potential for a significant weekly role makes him a valuable target.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
PositiveValue3:43
Pete identifies Kenneth Walker as a favorite target at the turn, noting he has significant exposure to him and considers him one of his two highest-rated players alongside AJ Brown. He expresses high satisfaction in securing Walker at the 2.08 spot.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
NegativeValue21:54
Matt Kelley regrets passing on Malik Nabers in the third round of his mock draft, stating he would have absolutely taken him to provide more roster flexibility and avoid feeling pressured to reach for other positions later.
Insight pageMark Andrews
PositiveValue20:21
Matt Kelley expresses confidence in drafting Mark Andrews as a primary tight end option, noting he would feel comfortable entering the season with him as his starter and streaming the position if necessary.
Insight pageMike Evans
NegativeBust9:01
Wyatt has moved Mike Evans down his rankings due to injury issues during camp, stating he is difficult to draft unless he falls to the seventh round.
Insight pageNegativeInjury22:42
Matt Kelley is worried about Mike Evans due to recurring training camp injuries. Kelley has dropped Evans to WR30 in his rankings, placing him behind Christian Watson and ahead of Brian Thomas Jr., noting that his ADP must come down.
Insight pageRJ Harvey
NegativeRole30:51
Matt Kelley notes that RJ Harvey has the receiving role locked down in Denver, though he acknowledges concerns about Harvey's rushing efficiency. Kelley suggests the team may want a pairing of Harvey and Coleman to avoid over-reliance on JK Dobbins.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
PositiveValue10:18
Pete and Wyatt criticize the aggressive pricing of tight ends on Sleeper, noting that Sam LaPorta is being drafted 50-60 spots higher on that platform compared to high-stakes drafts like the NFFC.
Insight pageTravis Etienne
NegativeValue22:10
Matt Kelley notes that he would have still drafted Travis Etienne in the fourth round even if he had secured Malik Nabers in the third, maintaining his stance on the running back's value.
Insight pageZay Flowers
PositiveValue8:27
Wyatt praises the Zay Flowers pick at the 4.01 turn, noting that even though it is technically a fourth-round pick, the value is excellent for a start-three-wide-receiver league.
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Episode Transcript
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1:34We've told you who to draft. We've told you who not to draft.
1:38And today, we're putting it to use. What's up, everyone?
1:41It's the Fantasy Price Check. Pete and Wyatt here.
1:43And we're going to be doing a mock draft tonight on Sleeper to put into use all this advice we've been telling all of you.
1:51Pete's going to be drafting from the 12 spot.
1:54I'm going to be drafting from the 5 spot.
1:56It's a normal PPR league. Start one QB. Start three wide receivers.
2:00We're going to be talking while we draft against the computer.
2:03It's going to go by pretty fast. And then we're going to go through our teams after that and give some strategy
2:10and what we were thinking while we were drafting.
2:13Let's bring up the draft board and get started.
2:16Computer's going already. I'm up at the 105. JSN real nice and easy.
2:20Pete, at the 12 spot. How do you normally approach drafts?
2:23Yeah. I mean, the corners are my favorite spots on the board this year.
2:27I'm typically drafting, you know, Kenneth Walker or Chase Brown on the corner here.
2:31I have gotten a lot of Kenneth Walker exposure.
2:34So I'll go Chase Brown this time. And then really for me, AJ Brown and Kenneth Walker, my next two highest rated guys.
2:41So I try to get a little bit of exposure of both guys.
2:45I'm going to go ahead and take AJ Brown here.
2:48But yeah, typically I'm at least getting, I'm trying to get at least one running back in the first two rounds.
2:55I feel like it's much easier to anchor down with a running back and then, you know, tap the wide receivers in
3:01the next couple of rounds and then come back.
3:04So that's been my strategy. And I really, really do enjoy the corners.
3:08I'm living the dream here personally, because Kenneth Walker came back to me and anyone who's listened to us this summer knows
3:15that I'm all aboard the Kenneth Walker train. So getting him at the two eight feels wonderful for me, especially when I
3:21started out with a wide receiver in round one.
3:24And I'm not guaranteed getting one of those running backs to fall to me at that spot and that tier.
3:30So it's nice to get one. Boy, it's actually a tough decision for me in the round three between Jeremiah Love and Malik Nabors.
3:37But I'm going to go with Jeremiah Love, even though he's got a little bit of injury right now, just to make
3:44sure I lock in another running back that I feel good about as it gets back to you at the 12 spot.
3:51Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to double tap wide receivers here in a start three wide receiver.
3:56Um, you know, it makes a ton of sense.
3:59Uh, I'll take, uh, Chris Olave here and I'll take Zay Flowers.
4:03Um, you know, just to start through wide receivers.
4:05Now I don't have to worry about chasing wide receivers later.
4:09I anchor down with elite running back and I pretty much feel like you open up yourself to going to an elite quarterback.
4:16If it falls back to me on the, on the, on the, you know, five, six turn, getting maybe a tight end
4:22if they slide or just taking one of those running backs.
4:26Like a David Montgomery kind of that kind of guy.
4:29I get put in a tough spot here with my pick.
4:32Uh, cause not, none of the wide receivers I thought would actually come back, came back.
4:37So I'm actually just going to go real high T right here and taking the running back.
4:42I love your wide receiver so far. I'm interested and we're going to get, I have to get into it later about the AJ Brown pick.
4:50Cause that is definitely above market. So that's, I'm going to put a pin in that one for one to talk about
4:57after this draft is over for sure. Yeah. Back up to me.
5:01I definitely need to hit up a wide receiver at this point.
5:04Little Jameson Williams. All right. Going back at you.
5:07Is a flowers at the four one. I mean, even though you put fourth round, but it's, it's at the turn.
5:13So it's basically a third round pick, but still, I love that pick for you.
5:18So yeah, definitely lucky to get that. I'm sitting here.
5:21Burden goes ahead of me running backs. I don't really love the running backs in this spot, but, um, I'm going to go with Jardarian price.
5:29Jardarian Price. One day you'll get it. One day I will get it.
5:33DJ more goes ahead of me, which is kind of a bummer.
5:36Cause I'm a fan. Uh, Mike Evans is somebody that we should definitely talk about at some point too.
5:42Uh, he's falling. I've, I've moved him down my rankings too.
5:46We definitely would love to chat about him at some point as well.
5:49Um, kind of tough here. Cause I don't really like the running backs on the board.
5:54I don't want to chase these running backs either.
5:57Uh, so I'll stick to my process. It's still a start three wide receiver draft.
6:02So I'm going to go with Rome Dunze. Uh, unfortunately hate passing up on Mike Evans, but with third injury, this camp,
6:08um, it's, it's really hard right now to take him unless he's falling towards like that seventh round for me right now.
6:15Uh, one little thing I noticed in sleeper ADP and sleeper drafts is that I think like almost all the tight ends are priced pretty aggressively.
6:23So I tend to always wait when I'm in sleeper draft because they all go ahead of where I want anyone who's
6:30drafting on sleeper, who's anchored to the ADP a little bit is going to draft the tight end before I'm willing to do so.
6:37Um, yeah, that's one of the things that he, uh, even in home leagues, you know, you're going to be drafting this
6:44year, Sam LaPorta going in like the sixth round.
6:46Like for example, me and Jeremiah drafted and I got Jeremiah, Jeremiah in a high stakes draft yesterday night at like the
6:53one Oh eight Sam LaPorta, you know, he's going like 50, 60 spots higher in this draft.
6:58Yeah. Um, I kind of, I hate sleep. Yeah.
7:01They're all aggressive, right? It's tough. Yeah. Not a fan of the sleeper ADP.
7:05I would have probably, I would have taken Parker Washington over Rome, but again with the ADP and just because we get
7:1230 seconds and we're going quick here. Um, I, I didn't even realize Parker was still there.
7:17He's just always so buried in his, in his ADP, which is a nice thing too.
7:22Um, he would have been my pick if he was there and caused me to, to panic a little bit at my
7:29pick, go with Justin Herbert, just because, uh, I just genuinely didn't like most of the players in the area.
7:35And so I always take a quarterback. I feel good about, you know, and I'll worry about the rest later.
7:41Yep. It's a good strategy. Yeah. It's, it does start to get pretty ugly at this point, but I'm going to take
7:47someone who, uh, has been shooting up draft boards, but it's still kind of low in sleeper ADP and that's Jonathan Brooks.
7:54Yeah. Yeah. Well, good. There are some good players we've drafted so far in terms of players that we can talk about with the market.
8:02Brooks is going to be one of them. Um, I'm not really a fan of where he's been shooting up.
8:08Um, but at this price in the eighth round, I mean, if you're telling, if you're telling me you can get him
8:15behind Kyle Mononga, this just goes to show how ridiculous sleeper ADP is.
8:19Um, but he'll be so important to learn the ADP of the site you're drafting on.
8:23Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Um, I'm stuck between Casey Conception and Diggs here.
8:27Um, you're the, you're the Browns fan. Would you, would you, would you prefer Casey over Diggs at this point?
8:33Or I would, I would, but I, I, I, for, for this question, I'll say you should take Diggs.
8:39So that Casey can, has a chance coming back to me.
8:42I'm like, I, I'm looking at my rankings and I, I have, uh, I have Casey, uh, just below Diggs right now
8:49at like wide receiver 43 behind downs. Diggs is wide receiver 40 for me.
8:53So, but I'm not, once you get to that kind of spot, it's like, I'm not hell bent.
8:59There's guys I like, and there's guys that I don't typically draft.
9:02Yeah. The Browns showing in the preseason that they are just going to use them in a lot of different ways.
9:09Um, I think, you know, just solidifies my thoughts on him as a player and how good he can be in the NFL.
9:16So, yeah. Uh, we talked about him and we talked about the Zay flowers role with Mock and going over there.
9:22Okay. Um, let's go with the other San Francisco.
9:25I was trying to find a John stripling. Did was he already drafted?
9:29Did I miss it? Oh, it was right before me.
9:32That's why. Yeah. He goes an interesting pick too.
9:35I think he's super, super undervalued right now. So, uh, I, I think one, the Depot or just stripling, at least one
9:41of is going to be a really good value.
9:44Yeah. Yep. Me too. Juwan Johnson there at the turn.
9:47I like a lot, especially with the Jordan Tyson injury.
9:50Yeah, I do. I have Johnson decently high in my rankings.
9:53Um, I have met 15 for tight end this year.
9:56So, uh, getting him here behind Gadsden. I mean, Gadsden, I, I haven't buried in my rankings.
10:02Just, I don't know if the signals and the signs feel like they're there, but I love Johnson.
10:07A lot of less target competition with Kamara now and Tyson being hurt.
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13:00Pete, we finished up our draft. Why don't you tell everybody, remind them who all you picked, go through your draft, and give some thoughts on it.
13:08Yeah. So, again, start three wide receivers. I anchored down at the running back position with Chase Brown on my first pick.
13:15And then I came back with A.J. Brown. We'll talk about A.J.
13:18in a second. But running back room. So, Chase Brown, Jardarian Price.
13:22The rest of my running backs are Kenneth Gainwell and Marshawn Lloyd and Rico Dowdle.
13:27Obviously, we have this Josh Jacobs thing. I was ranking Jacobs high.
13:30I was drafting him well above where he was being priced at ADP.
13:34But we'll see what shakes out. I don't want to put a take out there on him right now because I just
13:41really don't know what's going to happen. And now that this new information came out.
13:45Trevor Lawrence at quarterback. Wide receivers A.J. Brown, Chris Alave, Zay Flowers, Jawan Johnson, Roma Doonze.
13:50I got Casey Conception and my guy Jalen Coker, who I do have ranked in the top 100.
13:56He's my 98th ranked player. I don't think you have to take him that high, but I have him right there.
14:02Not a lot of target competition. So, yeah, I'm pretty happy with the build.
14:06I would have preferred Parker Washington over Rome. But Sleepy ADP doing this on video and 37 o'clock got me a little messed up there.
14:14I like the build. It's slightly closer to like Hero RB, but like you came back at running back early enough.
14:20It's not like exactly Hero RB, but the wide receivers are really strong.
14:24And I still think that you got enough running back firepower to be able to compete.
14:29Trevor Lawrence, I thought was a nice pick value.
14:32Jawan Johnson weighing a late tight end, I think is one to go for, who you'll find out really early, like the
14:39role that he's going to have with Jordan Tyson out.
14:42Can really like buoy that position for you and possibly just be your guy all season long.
14:47I mean, that's what it kind of was for people last year and offense expects to be better.
14:52So, I was digging it. But I wanted to come back to AJ Brown.
14:57I said, you know, because this is certainly above market.
15:00And I've been into AJ Brown this offseason, but I don't think I'd be drafting this high.
15:05So, sell me on the AJ Brown at 201.
15:08Yeah. And by the way, can you zoom in just a tick, a little bit tick more on the board just so
15:14it's a little bit, maybe a little bit more clear?
15:17I think that's a little bit better. AJ Brown, yeah, I feel like we've been sold that we have to take Justin Jefferson, have to take Justin Jefferson.
15:26In this case, Jefferson goes in the first round.
15:29So, it makes that decision for me a little bit easier.
15:32But I've been talking about this for the last week or so.
15:36I feel like when you look at AJ and you look at Jefferson and the situations, I'm taking Drake May, the guy
15:42with the better quarterback, you know, nine times out of ten.
15:46And I understand Justin Jefferson is one of, if not the most talented wide receivers in football.
15:51We've seen plenty of cases where talent doesn't win out.
15:54And we've seen plenty of cases where talent does win out.
15:57And Justin Jefferson has been pretty much consistently great for fantasy football outside of when he's played with, you know, J.J.
16:04McCarthy. But this is not just a Justin Jefferson thing.
16:07I worry about, you know, Kyler being such an upgrade in people's minds that I don't know that the layups are going to be there for Justin Jefferson.
16:15And that's kind of what I worry about. I think the deep shots, I think the big plays will be there.
16:22But I do worry about, like, the short stuff.
16:24I just don't feel like Kyler's going to be able to play on time, play on rhythm, play on schedule.
16:30And that'll hurt Justin Jefferson in some ways. And I also just look at it like there's a world where that offense is a disaster.
16:38I'm sorry. Like, I understand there's a lot of talent.
16:41I trust KOC. But, like, I just keep closing my eyes and thinking about the Vikings.
16:46And I could just see Kyler just absolutely throwing up all over himself.
16:50I know that that's not the popular take right now.
16:53But I could very much see this offense not being very good or this team not being very good.
16:59So I have some concerns. They had a lot of issues on the O-line last year.
17:04You know, I could see that being an issue again this year.
17:07And I just, again, I look at AJ. People talk about this knee issue.
17:11But the truth is it did come out from McVay this week that part of why he didn't want to trade for
17:18AJ was because he dug more into the Devontae Adams tape.
17:21And he felt like there was more there. Now, that's what was said.
17:25I don't know if that's maybe him putting information out there to cover his tracks and make Devontae feel better.
17:31But I just, even if AJ's lost a little bit of a step, Wyatt, there's not a lot of target competition there.
17:38And he's playing with a massive upgrade. Jake May right now is the best quarterback that he's ever played with when it
17:45comes to just playing the position and facilitating, regardless of legs.
17:48And that's not a knock on Hertz. It's just the truth.
17:52So that's where I am with AJ. I know that's a long-winded take.
17:56But we got a lot of time to fill here.
17:59So, yeah, figured I'd lay it out on the table for you.
18:02But, you know, just saying, you know, Jefferson has Murray and AJ Brown has May is a simple yet compelling argument.
18:09If we're being honest, it is actually, you know, a pretty big deal.
18:13I think the bigger question for me is just, is AJ Brown still in his prime while Justin Jefferson is certainly in his prime?
18:20Yeah. And that matters. So I guess where I'm going to come out on this is that if you take AJ Brown
18:27to 201, I'm not going to argue with you because I think, you know, just saying the argument you did, it is
18:33compelling enough for me to not have a problem with it.
18:37I probably still wouldn't do it, but I don't have an issue with it whatsoever.
18:41I'm going to go into my team a little bit and then I've got a pin for a few players for us to chat about after that.
18:49But so the strength of my team is definitely the running backs.
18:53I started with JSN, but then came back with Kenneth Walker, Jeremiah Love and Travis Etienne.
18:58I'm expecting those three to be a really big part of my fancy team and kind of, you know, carry me through the course of the season.
19:06Came back at wide receiver with Jamie Williams and Christian Watson to big play.
19:10But, you know, obviously there's going to be some variability of the weekly scoring, but I was falling a little bit behind at wide receiver here.
19:18So I'm trying to take some shots at some wide receivers who can put up some high end scores.
19:24And when I have the what I think will be consistent high end running back production for my team with Walker Love
19:31Etienne, I'm more willing to take on multiple, you know, volatile wide receivers like that.
19:35Who can hit those, you know, week winning weeks for me while the running backs keep the consistency going.
19:41I took Justin Herbert in seventh when I was in a spot where I didn't really love the players.
19:47Kind of mentioned it while we were drafting and I was like, well, I do really like Justin Herbert this year.
19:53So I'm just going to take the QB. Come back with Jonathan Brooks, Jaden Reed filling out my depth a little bit
20:00with some players I just like in general. Took my tight end with Mark Andrews where I was in a spot where
20:07I was like, OK, I think this is the end of a tier.
20:11Basically, we're right here with Andrews and Goddard had just gone.
20:14And I thought that was the end of that tier.
20:17So I was just trying to lock in a player from there.
20:21And then I can decide, you know, if this team was real and I'm going in the season, like I'd probably just go in with Mark Andrews.
20:29See what it looks like early season. I might end up streaming the position, but I'm going to feel OK about that
20:36because I think I'm strong enough everywhere else. Finish up my depth with Debo Samuel, Denzel Boston, Keaton Mitchell.
20:41I love Keaton Mitchell's price on sleeper as well.
20:44I think that he's going cheaper on non-best ball sites because people think it's going to probably be hard to predict when you can actually play Keaton Mitchell.
20:53But I think there is enough possibility that he has a big enough weekly role that we're actually going to still care
20:59about him in seasonal leagues where you have to actually choose to put him in your lineup.
21:04I think I think that is possible. It's on the table.
21:08Do you have any questions for me about my team?
21:11Yeah, I mean, you go Jeremiah Love in the third round.
21:14You pass up on Malik Neighbors. You talk about how you had to chase the wide receiver position.
21:20Looking back on it, you could have ETN as your running back, too, if you went Neighbors in the third and then kept with ETN in the fourth.
21:28If you could go back and do it over, would you have preferred with how your team shook out, preferred to go with Neighbors in that spot?
21:36Yeah, I would have. I would have absolutely taken Malik Neighbors there.
21:40I didn't expect like every single wide receiver I would have loved to have taken at my next pick to go in between.
21:47Yeah. So when it came back, it's like, well, I'm not going to I don't want to reach at this point on a player.
21:54So I'm just going to take who I think is the best player available.
21:59They happen to be running back and I'll try and make up the wide receiver position later.
22:04But yeah, going back, it's easy Neighbors. I, you know, even if everything else is the same, like Jeremiah Love goes directly
22:10after me, all the picks are the same. I take Travis ETN still the same.
22:15I just give myself flexibility after that. Like, I don't feel pressured into Christian Watson in the sixth round.
22:21Like, I still like JMO at that pick regardless.
22:23I probably would have still taken him. But it's that next pick or even at the Herbert pick where I'm not feeling
22:30pressured at other positions and just giving myself more flexibility.
22:33I would have liked that for sure. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
22:37So you brought up Mike Evans during the draft, how you want to talk about him.
22:42I imagine that's because he just keeps dealing with an injury like over and over.
22:46Really, it's we've had multiple different injuries at this point now, too, during training camp.
22:51I'm worried. Are you worried? I am. It's it's a bummer with Evans.
22:55Evans. Every single week, you know, you're getting freaked out because he's not practicing on Thursday.
23:00And then he's going to you know what I'm saying?
23:03Like, it's just it's early for this. And I was a big proponent of drafting Evans.
23:08So it is a bummer for me. I have dropped him in my rankings wide.
23:12I have him at the wide receiver 30 right behind Christian Watson, right ahead of Brian Thomas Jr.
23:18and Cortland Sutton and Chris Godwin. Feels pretty properly priced there.
23:21So if Evans does fall, I'll absolutely take him.
23:24But right now that ADP has to come down for me.
23:27Yeah, I don't have much to add. I agree with the placement of where you put Mike Evans in that wide receiver 30 range.
23:34I think that makes sense. I'm with you on that.
23:37I did want to mention Jordan Tyson, you know, middle of the eighth round now here.
23:42I've seen him fall further than that. Is there a spot where you feel comfortable with Jordan Tyson at this point?
23:49It seems like he could miss half the season potentially.
23:52Yeah, I'm not touching Tyson in the first the first 100 picks, probably not the first 110 112.
23:57So that kind of puts me like right there, like right after 112.
24:01Once we start getting to that, I want to say 11th round to 12th round, I think is fair.
24:07I got him last night in the 12th, I think it was in NFFC.
24:11So I'm happy with that. If you have IR spots, you can slot him in there.
24:16Sometimes I don't mind doing that, especially a guy with his kind of talent.
24:20You get to get to put him on IR and then you get to add a speculative player in the first week
24:27or two that you're fine churning and rotating that spot until Tyson does come back, which could take a month or so.
24:34But you also could hit on a guy early in season where sometimes people are very hard to not drop guys.
24:40I always like having a guy that is kind of disposable at the end of my roster.
24:45So grabbing Tyson, that's pretty much the range I would say I'd be comfortable with.
24:50Yeah, I've been saying like start. I think it's okay to start thinking about him like round 10, depending on how the draft's gone.
24:57So I think we're pretty much in line on Tyson at this point.
25:01It's just like hopefully, you know, they don't bring him back too quickly.
25:05So when he does come back, he's ready to go and he's playing well down the stretch when it matters most.
25:11But even that's a little bit of a shaky proposition, especially considering his injury history with these hamstrings.
25:17So yeah, if it 10th round, 11th round and you hit on it and he's really good for the back half of the season, you'll be happy.
25:25But like anything before that and he doesn't do that, I mean, it's going to be really bad for you.
25:31I mean, we're like before the 10th round, we're still talking about drafting players that you have to count on for the season.
25:38This isn't necessarily depth or it's like a first person up off your bench who you will have to use.
25:44Injuries happen, bioways happen. Like I don't want to have to rely on Jordan Tyson.
25:49I want him to be a cherry on top of a team where I've got depth already.
25:54I feel good about the position and if he hits, you know, I really overloaded the position and I'm just like lapping
26:01my my league mates at the position. Before we get out of here, were there any other players that you had a pin to talk about?
26:09Yeah, a couple quick hitters. Jonathan Brooks talked a little bit about that.
26:13I'm, you know, in many such cases, especially if you're playing in a sharp home league, you know, he's going fifth round.
26:19It's just not a price I'm willing to touch.
26:22Curious about your thoughts on him. But Hubbard is rumored to be ready to go potentially for week one.
26:28So offensive line is pretty bad. You know, they're banged up with both of their tackles right now.
26:33I have some concerns with Brooks, not not as a talent.
26:37Look, I think a lot of people will sit there and say, did you watch him in college?
26:42He's super talented. But college was a couple of years ago and it was a fresher ACL ago.
26:48I'm not sitting here saying that he's not going to be decent, but I think we've jumped the shark a little bit,
26:54putting him in that fifth round where he is consistently going now.
26:58So that's a price that I'm just not really touching.
27:01Do you feel the same way or where are you at with him?
27:05Yeah, no, I'm with you. I see that like in a lot of these high stakes leagues, you know, he's go like you said, it's fifth round.
27:13Like he's way up to like people are trying to stake their claim on on John Brooks.
27:18And it's just too much for me at this point.
27:21I think his ADP being in the 80s is appropriate.
27:2470s is probably fine. I don't really have too much of an issue with that.
27:29Like it's that's where it's starting to get like really shaky.
27:32But in places like sleeper, you don't have to worry about that if you're paying attention to the ADP and you can wait.
27:39Even if you're playing with people who also are familiar with the sleeper ADP and know that they can wait, you can
27:46just, you know, go a little bit earlier than that.
27:49Like seventh round is fine, I think, to take John Brooks.
27:52And you're still technically getting a discount compared to where he's going in a lot of places.
27:57Yeah, I'm with you. The fifth is too much.
28:00Yeah, I have Brooks ranked 81 right now. So it sounds like we're pretty aligned with kind of where our thoughts are.
28:07You took Debo Samuel Wyatt. I've talked about him consistently the last two weeks.
28:11He's ranked like 125, even in high stakes leagues.
28:14He's going at like 120 area. I know there's a lot of steam on stripling.
28:18Let's just say stripling is good with the Mike Evans stuff going on too.
28:23There's potential that, you know, he could miss some time.
28:26Debo seems to be in really good shape. Um, I'm, I'm very excited to get Debo Samuel at this cost right now.
28:32We know that Sue Shanahan knows how to use him and they signed him to a decent contract.
28:38They gave him like seven, $8 million, which I know you're going to sit there.
28:42People are going to say, well, that's nothing. But it wasn't like this was a guy that waited out and got like two, three, $4 million.
28:50Um, like a Najee Harris kind of deal. I think, I think he's going to be used.
28:56So I was impressed, uh, with the pick getting him at where you did.
29:00Um, I know you wanted stripling sound of like, but yeah.
29:03Um, I'm still good with Debo where he's going, man.
29:06I think it's a really good low risk, high reward bet to make right now.
29:11Yeah. I just want them both in this general spot.
29:14Like I said, during, while we were drafting, I, I just, I think that one of them has a really good chance,
29:20like a chance, or there's a chance that a good chance.
29:24One of them, uh, is a nice value for fantasy this season.
29:27Like I, there's a chance that they're both just fine because like everyone else on the team manages to stay healthy enough
29:34that, you know, like Evans is catching a lot of touchdowns.
29:38Chris McCaffrey's been doing his thing. Kittle's doing his thing.
29:41And there's not enough leftover for both of them to be values.
29:44They're both kind of like helping, but neither really breaking out.
29:48Uh, but I would just say like history has shown us that someone's, on this team is missing some time, you know,
29:54like, uh, whether it's Kittle, you know, re injuring himself or being slow coming back.
29:59Mike Evans messes up his hamstring, CMC, whatever. But like, uh, I just think they're both priced really well at this point
30:06for the range of outcomes that they both have.
30:08If injuries happen around them, either one of them could be highly productive.
30:12I also, I think there's a chance they can be highly productive together too, because I think that they're going to use
30:19Debo Samuel more as that like wide back, like they did in the past because the running back depth after Chris McCaffrey is pretty weak.
30:26So it's possible they could both just be doing their same thing at the same time.
30:31So yeah, I just want to be drafting both of them.
30:35No, that's a good point. I have one more guy and then we can get out of here that I wanted your thoughts on.
30:42I've talked about it a lot lately, but Jonah Coleman, um, he goes 13th round here.
30:47Uh, I was drafting in an NFC draft with Jeremiah and RJ Harvey went behind Dobbins and Jonah Coleman.
30:53I think that's a mistake. Um, I happen to like Jonah Coleman Wyatt and I feel I'm pretty plugged in with Denver.
30:59The problem that I have with drafting Coleman, where a lot of times people are taking him somewhere on one 20, uh,
31:06when that one 20 area now, uh, why it is I don't Coleman doesn't really, to me, have a path to getting
31:13touches unless there's an injury, uh, or touches enough where he's startable, right?
31:17I know Sean Payton, everyone loves the offense cause he throws to the running backs and you say, well, it can be
31:23Dobbins and Harvey, but like the truth is Harvey's got the receiving role locked down and Dobbins is going to be the early down guy.
31:31Now Dobbins has had the injury history, but I do worry that sometimes we draft guys like a Jonah Coleman and then
31:38four or five weeks into the season, he's getting four touches a game and then you're dropping him.
31:43Right. And you're taking him over guys that could have been much more like a Marshawn Lloyd, for example, who I get
31:50behind Jonah Coleman, who obviously with the Jacob stuff, there's, there's some steam there.
31:54Um, but what are your thoughts there? Cause I just feel like with Coleman, it's just so hard to get three backs involved.
32:01And I just, I don't see it unless there's an injury.
32:04And I just, if he was back in the one fifties, one sixties, I'd be okay with it.
32:10But taking him where, you know, he's like your fifth player on your bench in an eight bench, you know, there's, there's,
32:17there's still some players that I would prefer over him that I think can, can have an impact without an injury in that area.
32:24So surprisingly, Jonah Coleman was actually one of my most drafted running backs in best ball this off season.
32:30A lot of that was just because, uh, he was, he's been going in like the one fifties, one sixties for most of the off season.
32:38And I thought he was a pretty good bet on, uh, some volatility in the backfield.
32:42If an injury happens to JK Dobbins or what, or, or even RJ Harvey, because he's good.
32:48He's a better pass catcher than Dobbins that Coleman could find a way at some point in the season.
32:53And for that price, it's worth it to, to play into something happening.
32:57Right. Uh, and, and the fact that I thought Jonah Coleman was a pretty good prospect overall.
33:03Um, I didn't really think like there would be much of a chance, like you were saying that he'd really find a relevant role.
33:10You're one. I mean, I was saying this, we talked about this when we were doing dynasty.
33:15He was talking about rookie drafts. Like, I don't know why these rookie running backs are getting pushed up in dynasty rookie
33:22drafts so far when I don't think they have a real chance to be relevant in year one, but I'll be, I've
33:28changed my tune a little bit on Jonah Coleman for year one in Denver, mostly because of the way that Sean Payton
33:35has acted with Coleman and talking about how he has a role in mind for him like right away.
33:41And when you think about it, he does have like Coleman is the best pass blocker amongst the backs without a doubt.
33:48And that doesn't always equal fancy points. It equals snaps.
33:51It doesn't always equal fancy points, but it does help him get on the field.
33:55Right. And we do know that Coleman is the type of player where he's not dynamic in any one area, but he's
34:02just kind of like does everything correctly and well and, and good enough.
34:06Right. Uh, so if he's getting on the field opportunities come, if they do come, he does well with them.
34:12They can't earn more, but really what it is, is thinking about, we know that RJ Harvey struggled as a runner, as
34:19a rookie, just the vision's not quite there for him.
34:22Um, it's all, all in the metrics. You can look it up, you know?
34:26So if he's not there as a runner, JK Dobbins is, but he's obviously not part of the future of this team.
34:33Sure. Is there a chance? Jonah Coleman shows enough that Sean Payton's like, well, this is my guy.
34:38You know, could he start to earn some more that way?
34:41And if he's getting all these assignments, right, he's doing all these things, right.
34:46He's in their past blocking do the eventually. Okay.
34:48Let's get him some, some targets too. You don't like, I could see how it could build in his ADP growing right now.
34:55Um, isn't a surprise because of that, especially like, was it the first preseason game?
35:00Like they got him in there for like two runs.
35:03Jonah Coleman looked awesome. They pulled him after it.
35:06When Sean Payton was asked about afterwards, he was like, oh yeah, I saw all I needed to see.
35:11And I was like, oh, does that mean like, you just want to make sure everything is on practice was going to happen on the field.
35:19It did. And he's like, yep. I knew this was my dude.
35:23Um, you know, it could mean nothing. It could be something, but I think the, him going up an ADP is warranted
35:30and I don't have a problem with it. Yeah.
35:32The last thing, the last thing I would say on it is I just think that you have to, you have to be okay.
35:40Stomaching taking a guy in like one 20 range and knowing that he's probably not going to contribute until halfway through the season.
35:47I agree with you that I think Coleman's going to have a role.
35:51Sure. The back half of the year, but it felt more palatable when he was a last couple rounds pick to now
35:57being like a 11th or 12th round pick, which I've seen him go a lot.
36:02And even in this draft, he goes 13. Um, but it's sleeper and you have guys like Zach Charbonnet going ahead of him.
36:09Like I think he would go ahead of some of those guys.
36:13Um, so yeah, that's, that's just my thought. And then I think, I think Harvey, yes, the, the rushing is an issue with him.
36:20We'll see if he took a step forward. I just think people gloss over the fact that he did have 12 touchdowns
36:27last year and he was a second round pick and Peyton reached on him.
36:31It wasn't just like, uh, they picked him like Peyton got a lot of crap for reaching up and grabbing him.
36:37People thought it was a pretty bad pick at the time and it turned out well.
36:42So I just find it hard to believe that he's going to be phased out, but to your point, Dobbins not part of the future.
36:50So makes a lot of sense to imagine, but if Dobbins looks good, this team's a super is trying to win a super bowl this year.
36:58I don't think they're going to be thinking too much about the future.
37:02If Jacob Dobbins is running the way he did last year.
37:05Um, and I expect him to do so as long as he stays healthy, which is really what it all comes down
37:12to at the end of the day for Coleman.
37:14I just felt comfortable more taking him later than I do now.
37:18Um, because I know for me, I turned the bench on my roster consistently in season.
37:23Um, so you just have to be comfortable with that.
37:26So, um, but in best ball, totally don't mind taking him a little bit of a different play there for sure.
37:32Yeah. I'll wrap up, uh, this talk on Coleman by just saying, I do think that he is a better best ball
37:39pick than he is a redraft pick because the things you said, like you're not going to feel confident starting him for a while.
37:46Whereas in best ball, like it's possible you could catch a touchdown pass or whatever or like run one in and, you
37:53know, make, make your best ball in it, but you would never have been playing him.
37:58Right. And I would guess that Sean Payton wants this to be a Jonah Coleman, RJ Harvey show.
38:03Like this Jonah Coleman take is not an anti Harvey take.
38:07Like, I think if that was their pairing, like that would be great for Sean Payton.
38:12If those two were playing that well, you know what I mean?
38:15Yeah. That they didn't have to rely on JK Dobbins.
38:18Not that relying on JK Dobbins is a bad thing necessarily.
38:22It's just like, everyone's very aware that at any point he could go down.
38:26So I imagine Sean Payton would like Harvey and Coleman to be the two dudes in that backfield, but that's going to
38:33do it for this episode of fantasy price check.
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