0:00Enough people are respecting my goat Kenneth Walker play of the day. Frankly, it was a chalk apocalypse today. A bunch of the high-priced guys got absolutely
0:09sunned. All of the good smash receivers were not owned in cash games or in GPPs.
0:16You might think, oh, Chase Brown had a billion receptions today. Surely he was optimal. Nope. No, he was not. Not even
0:22close to optimal. Aaron Jones, not close to optimal. Jordan Addison. Jordan Addison's got to be the definition of the worst chalk play of all time. I
0:30mean, that has got is is there a worse thing to ape into than Kyler Murray's top receiver as absolutely stone chalk in in fantasy football? I
0:42mean, that's got to be that's got to be as bad as it gets, dude. I I can't I can't really um imagine. I mean, and the
0:51thing I'm tilting about, I had a great day, so I'm not really that mad. But TJ Hawinson racking up like an NFL record
0:59of receptions, enough already. I send that [ __ ] back, dude. I'm sending that Nate, I know you're going to tell
1:05me like, "Oh, the Whopper, whatever."
1:07No, dude. Hawinson, I'm not having it.
1:10I'm sending that [ __ ] back.
1:13>> Yeah, it's it's it's really tough. I mean, football is so like high variance.
1:17You never know who these targets are going to go to. And when someone like Justin Jefferson's out, how could we possibly know that TJ Hawinson is going
1:26to get incredible volume at his price tag and going to be a smash play in cash games? Uh, if only 70% of the field
1:32would have known. Oh, wait. They did because it was obvious that this was going to happen and this was the most
1:37predictable outcome of all time.
1:39>> AND YOU GUYS, IT MOST certainly was not the most predictable outcome because TJ Hawinson absolutely blows, dude. He blows this.
1:47This will never happen again.
1:49>> This guy stinks, dude. No, >> he's dusty. He's so dusty. Like it it is unbelievable. We've seen it time time
1:56again where it's like, oh, the number one receivers's out. Obviously, this guy's going to get the vacated targets and it doesn't work out like that. And
2:04you sun ran. How many 13 receptions? Is that what he got?
2:09>> I did not sunun. Do you realize he was 43% owned in cash games? who's by far the most high owned tight end of all of
2:15like the slate.
2:17>> The optos spit it out. Yeah.
2:19>> Because the optos are aware of how to build projections and when you don't have >> just the optos made the optos had a huge
2:26huge huge huge huge huge mistake today which we are we are most certainly going to to get into >> this this chat of he's had four targets
2:36last week. Justin Jefferson was this IS THIS IS >> JUSTIN Jefferson played five snaps last week. No, Nate. No, >> HE HAD THE WHOLE WEEK OF GAME PLANNING.
2:44THEY KNEW JUSTIN Jefferson was going to be out. Anderson, Aaron Jones.
2:48>> Yes.
2:49>> TJ Hock, like this was predictable.
2:51That's why he was 50% owning cash games.
2:53This was not a 2% tile outcome. This was a predictable outcome.
2:57>> No. TJ Hawinson having doubledigit receptions. How many times do you think in his life TJ Hawinson has had double digit receptions a game? I I'm willing
3:06to bet it's it has to >> It was a career high for sure. It's got to be It's got to be less than It's got
3:11to be He's done it in his career. TJ Hawinson double digit receptions. This is only the four. This is only the fifth
3:19time he's ever done it.
3:21>> Yeah. If only How could we have known after Daltton Schultz week two or other, you know, all these all of a sudden when
3:27when the high volume wide receivers are out, these tight ends get these dumps.
3:30Anyway, I played I played tight end correctly because I'm smart and I know more about football than the TJ Hawinson mouth breathers, which we most certainly
3:39are going to to get to. Uh I here's actually where I want to start. I want to start with why did everyone decide
3:46that Trevor Lawrence just like had to be played? Like why did why I played Trevor Lawrence, but why like why did we why
3:53did we do this? What? Trevor Lawrence was a [clears throat] totally cromulent fantasy football option. But why was Trevor Lawrence 70% owned? I I think
4:01this was bad. I I think I think Trevor Cuz he was affordable. Cuz he was affordable. He was playing a really [ __ ]
4:08defense in a game that project and he's been playing out of his [ __ ] skull for like the last 10 weeks or so
4:17going back to last year. So I thought it made a lot of sense. I didn't play him.
4:20>> He's been playing He's been playing fine. He's been playing fine, but his fantasy numbers I mean his fantasy numbers have been average. Like it's not
4:28like it's not like he is is totally killing it. I tell you who I wanted to play Nate. I wanted to play Secret
4:34Beagent. I really really did. I couldn't I couldn't justify it in the end, but I really did want to play Beagent at the
4:42end of the day. I was like, he's 4,800.
4:44He's going to run a little bit. Now, in the end, he ended up not getting any touchdowns, so it it was no good. But if
4:50you tell me that the Bears, like if you would have told me before the slate, the Bears have more first downs than the
4:55Jets have plays, I'm I'm jamming Bean in cash. Absolutely jamming.
5:01>> Yeah. I mean, >> yeah, he averaged like eight yards in attempts, like it was it was a good play, I think.
5:07>> Yeah, the the Bean thing, I mean, after what he's done in preseason, after just watching what Ben Johnson did with
5:12Casey, and I'm like, >> yes, >> we should have we should have played because it's not a talent play. It's like a it's a Ben Johnson. It's an
5:18offense. It's a system play.
5:19>> It's a system play. And it's like >> I do feel dumb that I didn't consider him more. I I I don't think Lawrence was
5:27bad. I don't think Lawrence >> I don't think Lawrence was bad, but I just like, you know, that we This is
5:32always what happens. Whoever the quarterback is in the train team is like a billion% owned. But I did not play the
5:38train team. I should have been more of a freethinker. And I was not. I was not. I was just like, I got to just play
5:43Lawrence, dude. I got to just do Lawrence. And I feel like it it it ultimately is fine. But I I do
5:51I think Begent was honestly >> in fairness in fairness I was a freethinker. I played Tyson Beant like a true actor.
6:00>> We're gonna get We're going to get to what you did, buddy. We're gonna get We're gonna get the blade. So
6:06>> yeah. Um All right. So whatever. Uh, we we can get to we can get Well, Nate, you I I mean, I don't know what I I don't
6:15want to go through your whole lineup yet, but I will just I will just spoil the fact that you played Josh Allen in
6:21cash. I mean, this Nate just showing up with these the all the way spend up at quarterback or the all the way spend up
6:29at defense is it's my favorite thing.
6:31It's my my absolute favorite is when Nate just shows up and he's just like, "Yeah, dude. I spent $8,000 on Josh
6:39Allen. I frankly Nate, I'm surprised you didn't show up with the $4,000 Vikings defense in this spot.
6:45>> Honestly, all week I was like, did did DraftKings give me a bonus? Do I have more salary than everybody else? I was
6:51able to build lineups this week and I'm like, this is I'm getting Jamar Chase.
6:54I'm getting Christian McCaffrey. I'm getting George KD. I'm getting Josh Allen. I'm getting Chase Brown. I like I'm getting I was like building these
7:02teams and I'm like I I feel like I have more dollars available. This was the softest week four slate I can remember
7:08pricing wise. You could do anything. You could do anything this week.
7:12>> I mean, look, you you could you could do anything. I actually, frankly, and I think in my lineup, I ended up leaving
7:17$500 of salary in my lineup because it was just like I couldn't spend all of it with the guys I ended up wanting to
7:23play. I never considered playing Josh Allen. I did. Um, so the thing the thing that I considered trying to spend more
7:32money on was on uh wide receiver three. I was trying to get Puka Nakua, Parker Washington, and Garrett Wilson all at wide receiver,
7:43which just ended up um not working. So I I guess the other thing that we should talk about in terms of chalk that
7:50everyone knew was uh terrible uh as it was happening was Aaron Jones. I mean, Aaron Jones, what did what did he get in
7:58the end? Aaron Jones ends up with 16 DraftKings points, which is like so that that to me, Aaron Jones hitting 90 like
8:0616 points. Doesn't that feel about like his 92nd percentile outcome? Like he he projected so good. He projected for a million points. And I'm like, we all
8:15know Aaron Jones is not breaking this late. The Vikings don't throw to the running back. They don't run in the red
8:21zone. And guess what? Aaron Jones doesn't get any receiving work. He has four I guess he does have four receptions for 34 yards. Got no touches
8:29inside the 10. 16 points, no bonus, no touchdown is great because that's always what Aaron Jones is going to do. He's
8:36never going to get the bonus and he's never going to score. It's it it's like normally I would say like, oh, you just
8:43play the the 90% own running back or whatever. You just do it in cash. But there are there are so there were so
8:50many plays at running back. There were like just looking at the at the running back like I thought about playing McAffrey, I thought about playing
8:56Walker, I thought about playing Henry, I thought about playing Chase Brown, I thought about playing Love, I thought about playing Swift, I thought about
9:02playing Javvante. Like there were like so many passable plays at running back that I mean in the in the massive 25
9:10Actually, you know what? This is shocking. What do you think he was owned in the in the massive $25?
9:18>> I don't know. 30 40 >> dude 34%. I thought it would be way higher. You know who was the most owned
9:23running back? [ __ ] Jeremiah Love.
9:26Jeremiah Love. Yeah, >> there must have been one site that projected Jeremiah Love above Jones cuz Jeremiah Love was like he was jammed
9:36everywhere. He was jammed in tournaments. He was jammed everywhere.
9:39So, um >> he he was projected really good, but also all the co the content and the shows were on Jeremiah Love. I will say
9:47it's very tempting to to sneer and laugh at the Jeremiah Love players. He he basically got injured. He he got injured
9:54in the second quarter and that's why Al Jir uh played for for most of the game.
9:59He he I think there was a thread explaining that he like hyperextended his knee basically and that's why Al Gir played for most of the second half. Um,
10:08I played I played Jeremiah Love and frankly I played Jeremiah Love instead of Chase Brown. And after watching that game, I feel like I was right. I feel
10:17like I was I feel like I was right.
10:19Chase Brown sucks, dude. He he he he Chase Brown is the most um what is what is like he's the most Daria Ugal running
10:28back one of of all time. Like that is like the only way Chase Brown can get there. What What was his statline in the
10:35end? Um, Chase Brown, 71 receiving yards on 11 receptions is what is what Chase Brown did. No, no, Todd.
10:46You're on mute, Nate.
10:49>> He only got that because Chase was out.
10:51If Chase played the whole game, he wouldn't have had that at all.
10:54>> Yeah, he >> Well, it was totally unforeseeable, you know.
10:58>> Totally.
10:58>> It was JAMAR CHASE GOT OUT. I MEAN, it's totally different to have the top receiver go out mid game than it is to
11:05have game planning all week long and know that they're going to get dump offs free to TJ Hawin. Like, >> all right. Well, let's talk about let's
11:13talk about what uh what actually happened um in in these contests. So I played uh Trevor Lawrence, Aaron Jones,
11:22Jeremiah Love, Puka Nakua, Parker Washington, Dantavian Wix, Tyler Higgby instead of Hawinson, Ken Walker III,
11:32and the Los Angeles Rams defense. Um I mean, Higgby, frankly, is an all-time insane ballnower play. No Kobe
11:42Parkinson, um no Terrence Ferguson. He ran all the routes. He was second on the Los Angeles Rams and targets. In a just
11:51world, in a in a world where in a world where you are paid off based on how sharp you are, I'm getting paid a
12:01million dollars for playing Tyler Higgby. This was so clearly good to play Tyler Higgby, five for 67 instead of T.J. Hawinson. But you know what, Nate?
12:11We don't live in a just world. So instead of that, uh TJ Hawinson just absolutely gives me the blade with his fifth
12:21double-digit reception uh game of his career. I the Higgby thing, Higgby over Hawinson, I think is
12:30completely completely defendable. I really do.
12:34>> I don't I think you're not you're not taking into account >> you're not taking into account this is Puka's back. Uh, you also played Puka.
12:43So, you're assuming Puka is getting the volume that Puka gets.
12:46>> Yeah, I played Puka back because I'm sharp as a [ __ ] nail, dude. I'm sharp as a as as a goddamn samurai sword.
12:53>> Which which means they don't need to have the Higgby dump offs that they need to. So, like they're going to game plan
12:58for Puka. Uh, Stafford is not the Stafford of old. He is legitimately old now. His back is clearly bothering him.
13:06He's not as he's he's not the guy he was last year in the years past. And I think that like with Puka back, I don't think
13:12that the Higgby was like this the sup the super sharp play. He's fine. I don't think he was bad, but I don't think he
13:19was the sharpest play in the world.
13:21>> Yeah, I would like to I would cash in I would >> I would like to cash in my my Hig Beast
13:26Slansky box. Uh but the the thing that I did that was clearly that >> Yeah, go ahead, Sammy. Look, look, look.
13:33I I know my reception's bad. My audio is but look, Stafford is not playing nearly as well as he did last year, but
13:42he's still kingmaking. He king made Ferguson in week two. He king made Devonte Adams for two weeks. He king
13:50made Puka Nua again. Um, I I I agree with I think he was mega sharp. Um, the way to play it though, Davis, was
13:59obviously just to take all his overs on picks or underdogs. His receiving was 3.5 receptions and 30.5 receiving yards.
14:10Took a lot of it. Um, mega sharp play.
14:12Good for you.
14:13>> That that that is what I did. It was one of my it was one of my it was one of my
14:17only dubs today. Slid Higgby up to 44 and a half receiving yards. Uh, Burden, whatever. That was uh that was one of
14:24the uh that was one of the dubs today.
14:26However, I mean, Nate, I feel like allowing me to snatch your chain of taking Puka at 7500 and playing him and
14:35Cash, I feel like that's a Nate play. I feel like I I was surprised. I mean, we can talk about what you did. Um, which I
14:42actually I was ready to [ __ ] on your lineup. Uh, I mean, not having Parker Washington is completely insane, but I
14:49do think the doing Jamar Chase, doing Puka, doing JSN, like whatever it is, instead of doing Garrett Wilson, cuz I think we all have enough experience with
15:00Garrett Wilson to know $6,800 massive insane chalk Garrett Wilson. Like, didn't you just kind of have a pit in your stomach about that play? I know. I
15:10know. I did. I know. I had like I was spending all morning trying to find a way to not play Garrett Wilson. I was my
15:18whole deal this morning was man I just really don't want to because what everyone did the the chalk the chalk lineup or the the train lineup was
15:27Trevor Lawrence, Christian McAffrey, Aaron Jones, Jeremiah Love, Parker Washington, Garrett Wilson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hawinson, and the Rams defense. That was the So that's three
15:38Vikings players and $6,800 Garrett Wilson. And you know, look, Christian McCaffrey is trying to stave off the Bank Examiner, but I didn't really want
15:49to play Christian McCaffrey either. Um, like I think he's I think he's fine, but I'm not rushing to jam CMC in any of my
15:56lineups these days.
15:58>> Yeah. I mean, the the news about Evans and stuff that came out today made it look like it was he was even like worse
16:05than expected. I don't know. I felt good about CMC KD. I thought it was like that's a great way to get exposure to
16:11the San Francisco like just lock up the touchdown exposure. But, um, but yeah, here's the thing about Puka. So, Puka is
16:20is a unique alpha receiver in that his route participation is not actually very high. Uh, so >> 75%.
16:27>> And that's when he's fully healthy. So like fully healthy Puka only runs 70 to 75% of the routes and has an insane
16:34targets per out run on those high on those like low part low route participation already. And so the news of like, hey, we're going to let him
16:42play as much as his stamina allows. And it's like, okay, if you already are 75% when you're fully healthy, if you bring
16:48that route participation down to like 40 50%.
16:52It's really hard. you would have to have a target per route run rate of like 60% to get to like a Jamar Chase who's
16:58running a 100% of the routes. And so I was just like not knowing with Puka and knowing Jamar Chase was like fully it
17:06was just I I felt fine about the Jamar Chase thing. If Chase wasn't on the slate, I probably would have played
17:10Puka. But like I just I didn't play Puka. And I I don't know the chase thing. Obviously, it's like I'm really
17:19happy for you that like you at least came close to me this week and all it takes you [ __ ] sucking out. I'm
17:24actually I'm actually all it takes for you to get close to me is for me to pay up and get Jamar Chase three snaps.
17:31>> No, you [ __ ] 200 yards rushing, dude. No.
17:35>> And and you still can't beat me. You still can't beat me. Even when I run bad and you run hot, you still lose.
17:40>> You sucking out with TJ Hawinson career game is actually insane. It's actually crazy. I was beating you guys by a
17:49million. I was lapping the field with you guys. My lineup is the nuts. I'm winning every head-to-head. And then Nate gets like five receptions from T.J.
18:00Hawinson in the fifth quarter and then a 60ard George KD touchdown. KD KD is like a straight up bust until that play. And
18:07I'm not KD I actually think was fine. I was trying to get KD. What I was trying to do in my lineup, Nate, was I was
18:13trying to play Begent at quarterback and I was trying to find KD over Higgby/Hawinson with Walker in the flex and it just like
18:22there was no way to make it work. I would have had to Well, God forbid I would have had to have fade Parker
18:27Washington. God forbid you find a way to not get Parker Washington, one reception, seven yards, three rushing yards in your lineup. Oh, I mean the the
18:37suckout that Nate had to outscore me by what's that one point 1.37 points or whatever. I mean >> I gave you I gave you 27 points at
18:48receiver. It's not a suckup.
18:49>> No. No. You didn't give me 27 points. I played the right play and got paid for making the right play. When they said
18:56that Puka was facing no restrictions, like Sheper tweeted like he's just 100% playing. I don't know how you don't like Puka. We were playing Puka in cash last
19:06year at 9,000 DraftKings dollars.
19:08>> You realize that Hawk ran out at the one yard line. He took a knee. He could have scored.
19:11>> He did. He did. He legitimately could have scored.
19:13>> He kneled. Yeah.
19:14>> And then and then Jones didn't get the score. I mean, literally I there was points left on the field. I beat you
19:19with like room to >> I had I had Aaron Jones also >> with three snaps of Jamar Chase. Like it was like you like you ran hot. You ran
19:28hot VERSUS >> NO, I DID NOT. NO, I did not run hot. I AM THE GOAT. KENNETH WALKER AT 200 YARDS
19:33RUSHING AND TWO TOUCHDOWNS. DO YOU >> I'M THE GOAT. I played Kenneth Walker instead of Christian McAffrey. Look at all the Look at all these people in the
19:40in the $50 double up. I got to pull I got to pull the the double up ownerships up because it's absolutely hilarious.
19:47People 7% own Ken Walker in the This is the This is the massive 25. This is the This is the biggest one. 7%.
19:57You got to You got it, dude. 8% Puka, 7% Walker. You got to give it to me, dude.
20:02You absolutely have got to give it to me. That is putting it on the table and saying I know ball and being rewarded
20:09for knowing ball. You got You have to hand it to me.
20:13>> Yeah. But if Puka runs 15 routes this game, >> are you saying you ran bad? Yeah. So like but that's not running bad. That's
20:22like that's a legitimate like you don't know how many routes he's going to run.
20:26So, like you did take a getting injured midame is different than coming into a game questionable and not knowing how many routes they're going to
20:35run. Like >> I don't know. I just think like injuries.
20:39>> I would not have played Puka. I I would not have played Puka without the Sheper tweet saying no restrictions. I I would
20:47not have played him. I would have I would have played the same chalk donkey lineup that everyone played. I would have played the Garrett Wilson Jordan
20:54one. I would have with McCaffrey and I would I assume that lineup lost.
20:58>> It had to have. Yeah, >> it had to have.
21:00>> Yeah. So, I I would have played I would have played that lineup. I I was actually trying to get to um I think
21:05this is what Wiggins played, but I was trying to get to um what is it? Uh Lawrence McAffrey, Chase Brown, Puka,
21:14Pwash, Addison, Hawinson, KD Rams. Um would have been >> the two tight end the two tight end thing was the move. There's no doubt in
21:21my mind that two tight ends was the right way to play on this slate. I think that both Hawinson, both KD um and
21:27Higgby, uh those three at their price was like some of the best value adjusted like workload expectation on the slate.
21:34So I I think getting those two tight getting two tight ends I think however you built was going to get you more
21:39expected DraftKings points than any other build.
21:42>> Nate [ __ ] playing Josh Allen. Nate losing his mind and playing Josh Allen and just like easily getting there is
21:49crazy. [laughter] It's because he got he got 45 DraftKings points out of eight Brandon salary from
21:58two tight ends. Like, you know, I hate to say it, but Nate is just windmill dunking these tight ends on us day after
22:06day, week after week. It is max [ __ ] pain. I I >> Yeah, I should have I should have taken
22:12I should have taken every when I knew I wasn't playing Hawinson. I should have just taken every slider 10% like what
22:19would what would this have paid on underdog? This would have paid 100 to one. This would have been an insane payout on on DK or on underdog or
22:26whatever. You you could have you Nate, whatever you made today in DFS, you could have quintupled if you would have just done the TJ Hawinson mega all
22:35overs.
22:37>> Yeah. I mean, I just think you guys are like you're acting like I played like a 4% own tight end. He was the highest to
22:44own tight end of the slate.
22:46>> No, I know he was and I just >> This was not like a This was not a one-off play. This was like a the guy
22:52who projected going into the slate as the best value adjusted play of the slate. You guys faded and then are shocked that it dunked on you.
22:59>> I'm not I'm not I'm not >> I just thought Higgby was easily going to outscore him. And frankly, when he
23:06had what he had five for 67, I was like, "Okay, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna give the blade." I thought this was the most
23:12four for 44 game for Hawinson of all time.
23:16>> Yeah. Obviously, like >> same.
23:18>> Yeah. Yeah. But I just think Yeah, we got to move on. But I think Sam's lineup talk about what Sammy did. [laughter]
23:28>> I was hoping we'd skip this part.
23:30>> John Sammy.
23:31>> Dude, playing playing Beagent and not getting to an AK wide receiver. I Where did your money go? Where did the money
23:38go in this? I think I think draftings gave me 2,000 >> extra rece I got to an 8K receiver at 6,900.
23:46>> That's what I did.
23:48>> I played big [ __ ] Brock Bowers.
23:51>> No, that was a great play. I I'm I you know I just got mogged by TJ Hawinson.
23:57Like Hawinson goes four for 44 and B smashes and I just win and it didn't work out that way.
24:05>> I will say I will say this. I I actually I I truly think I think the Bowers play was dog [ __ ] I think if you played
24:13Begent, you should have done I I think Beent I actually think before the slate, during the slate, after the slate, I
24:21think the Beagent people played the best, but using Beant to get to Bowowers and and use like McCaffrey is the spend.
24:32I think we we're a month into the season. I think we can officially say the the the McAffrey is no longer the
24:41guy. Like the bank examiner is coming for McCaffrey, dude. He's he's fine.
24:45He's a play.
24:49>> I I will take the L here because Ken Walker is a ball- knowing play. Ken Walker has the juice and Christian
24:58McAffrey does not have the juice. And at some point, you want a running back that has the juice. And you know, McAffrey
25:05just doesn't have it. And >> you know, you know who McCaffrey is now?
25:09>> Touchdown, but >> McCaffrey is he is Javvante Williams.
25:14Like he's still going to have some really good games where he scores like three touchdowns or whatever. But the the team is not going into the game
25:21being like, "Yeah, dude. We really got to build the plane out of out of Christian McCaffrey, Javante Williams."
25:27Frankly, >> Brock Powers is the man now. I Well, I think >> I was gonna say they're building the plane out of Perie now. I think I think
25:36Shanahan goes into a game being like, I'm gonna let I'm gonna let Perie do his thing and it's I mean, it's clearly
25:41working, right? I mean, Pertie is playing awesome. I The 49ers are undefeated, right?
25:47>> Yes.
25:48>> Yeah. So, I I I think I'm shocked that legitimately adds up to 5 50,000 is so good. [laughter]
25:57>> God damn it.
26:01Yeah. I mean, I guess the other thing we should say, >> I think DraftKings stole money from Sammy and gave it to me. I think I was
26:07able to build How did I get Josh Allen and Jamar Chase and Christian Demi, what did you do? [laughter] >> It's that It's that the cheapest guy in
26:17his lineup is Wix, which by the way, last thing I said in our group chat before before lock, this is literally
26:24the last thing is I said, "I don't want to play Wix. The Eagles are going to score zero points, which I mean, they
26:32did somehow actually generate points.
26:34It's just that Darius Cooper had three for 20 and two touchdowns. But I think we all know Wix was dog [ __ ] I mean I
26:41Did you guys Did you guys play Wix in a single tournament lineup? Because I did not.
26:45>> I don't think I did.
26:46>> Yeah.
26:48I And we I mean, we all played him in cash, but I did you guys consider playing Khalif Raymond? Did you Did you
26:54consider playing Raymond in cash?
26:55>> For sure. for sure.
26:58>> Um, definitely.
26:59>> I did. I did not. I just I So I I also almost played Mai Lemon as well instead of instead of Wix.
27:08>> I just I We all knew Wix was a bad play.
27:10He He was like never going to be a good play.
27:13>> Yeah. I mean I don't know. I I I still don't know what to do with this Eagles offense.
27:20Like I don't know who Jaylen Herz is. I don't know.
27:22>> They're they're bad. I mean they're bad.
27:24Herz.
27:25>> Lemon is definitely more talented. Lemon is definitely more talented, but like Herz is Herz is brutal. And I just was
27:31hoping he was going to throw some >> like if Herz was decent, I do think Lemon would have been a better play. Wix
27:36is the better like bad ball. Just like throw it up there and exactly expect garbage and that's kind of what I was
27:41hoping for. But I would say like yeah, in a straight up like legitimately functioning offense, Lemon is the much better route runner overall player
27:50upside. But >> yeah, >> I don't know. 4,300. I 40 whatever he was 4,300 with no Devont. I felt like you had to play Wix.
27:58>> Yeah. Um All right. I will pull up Well, if I can I think uh Oh, the slate just transitioned to uh to complete it here.
28:07I'll pull up my uh I'll pull up my spy team. The run the Sims has a postcontest sim page up, but I don't know how to use
28:15it yet. So, I'll pull up my spy team. I I think this Did this men cache? No, it did not mache. Uh, I played Tyson Begent
28:244%. King Henry 14%. I I thought I thought he would actually be way more owned than that. Jeremiah Love, who clearly was a dog [ __ ] play at 39%. Puka
28:3512%. Pwash 31%.
28:39Uh, Luther Burden the third 6.7. Tyler Higgby 6.5. Emanuel Wilson 4800.
28:48freaking 7.5% on 27 points, Vikings defense, eight points. Uh, obviously the issue here is I didn't just play Ken Walker. Why did I not play Ken Walker?
28:57But I thought the Puka spot was so good.
28:59And I did, Nate, I really did think the Beijian spot was was good. And I couldn't get I don't know about I don't
29:06know what you guys were doing this morning. I couldn't get anything I liked to sim well. I couldn't get Dax Sidi to
29:12sim well. I couldn't get um Joe Burrow T. Higgins with pew to sim well. I couldn't I couldn't get anything that I
29:20thought was reasonable to to sim well at all. And I'm realizing now that part of it was one because I didn't put Hawinson
29:28in any of them. Right. So I I had zero Hawinson in any of my tournament lineups. And then also the Puka
29:34projection that I was using like I think Run the Sims had him for like 17 points meant like his P the Puka projection was
29:40degraded. It wasn't I I should have altered the puka projection and then started doing the uh the Sims freaking Parker Washington, dude. Get to I'm so
29:50tilted about this.
29:52>> Yeah, the Parker Washington thing was tough. I mean, because I do think the Jaguars were in a great spot. Like, I do
29:58think Lawrence was a good play.
29:59Washington obviously gets the volume. Um I think this just happens. I don't think there's much to read into the Washington thing. I think Washington was fine.
30:07>> No, it just it it is it's just one of those things that happened. How about How about I play in the red?
30:12>> He's just not a true alpha like we thought he was, >> you know? How do you how do you show up
30:17in this spot in this game and not and not get anything like maybe not a true alpha?
30:23>> Because because this was just honestly the the Bengals Jags game, it really was one of those games. Belle Tutin had um
30:31about a billion fantasy points called back by penalty. He had a 45 yard touchdown run called back by penalty and then like uh and then like a five yard
30:39touchdown run like the most like ridiculous holding call of all time. It was so it was so stupid. Um this is fair
30:48though. Uh I think we we probably should have a convo of whether $6,500 Parker Washington should be the highest owned wide receiver of slate. I mean I think
30:55that >> I think that's probably a fair conversation uh to have. I don't know. I thought I thought Higgby at 6.5% was
31:02good. But I mean, Nate, I I I this lineup I think that I got this lineup to like 3% sim ROI on Run the Sims. That
31:10that was like that was like as good as like Oh, and I also played the Vikings defense at 15%, which is crazy. I guess
31:16everyone did have insane salary if the $4,000 defense was 15% owned.
31:23>> Yeah. Um Yeah, I I I don't mind this. I think um I'm trying to think through the Beijian thing a little bit more of like would
31:33should you have gone through Lovelin instead of Higgby? Um but cuz what was what was Lovelin's price?
31:42>> Lovelin was so expensive. He was he was 4700.
31:46I I just thought there was no way he was 4700.
31:50>> Like I I mean I I play >> The Wilson play is sharp. The Wilson play is definitely sharp.
31:54>> Yeah. I I honestly like sometimes like if you're not gonna get if you're not gonna get first place sometimes it's
32:01really nice to have a fancy play like that that just absolutely smashes like man I'm so good. Can you imagine if uh
32:08you know Burden I mean Burden Burton keeps having these games like four receptions for 63 yards is like a totally fine game but he just like he's
32:16not found a mega smash yet. And then Washington sucking is How about Henry in a 24point win where the team was never
32:24contested. How does Henry only get 15 points? How did How did Derrick Henry not have 40 points in this game? That's
32:31absurd.
32:32>> Touchdown on the first drive >> and and Lamar went out. It's like, dude, just feed the big dog against your
32:38revenge game. I mean, I don't know how he didn't get there.
32:42>> No, it it it was it was completely it was completely insane. And I I actually was tilting that um pretty hard. I mean,
32:49and then Jeremiah Love had 43 yards in the first quarter and then and then got hurt. I don't know. You know what? I'
32:54I'd actually play this team again. It didn't It didn't get there, but like I would I would play this team again, I
32:59think. I mean, it doesn't have it doesn't have Ken Walker on it, so it couldn't have been that good. What team
33:04What team won this by? Let's see. I mean, obviously, it's going to have CD Lamb on it. Straoud, Macaffrey, Swift, Lamb, Neighbors was a totally unexpected
33:13smash. I I Hand up on that one. I was like I I was ready to like write the obituary for the New York Giants. Um Dubs, Romeo
33:24Dubs had a huge Smash game. TJ Hawinson only at 16%. Okay. All right. You know what, Nate? Duncap. Duncap for me. TJ
33:33Hawinson at 16% with his projection is actually a huge smash. And then Kirn actually nobody actually believed in him. Nobody was actually like, "Oh, Hawkins has the
33:44upside." He He got spit out naptos and people were like, "Oh, he'll get his like five for 48 and it'll be enough
33:51because I can do the rest of my lineup."
33:52But nobody actually believed that Hawinson would do well. That's the proof in the goddamn pudding.
33:57>> Yeah. I mean, we should talk about Kairen. So, I played Kirn in the red zone. I I thought he was I thought he
34:04was an awesome play, but I I couldn't get I couldn't get Puka, Higgby, Kairen, and the Rams defense all together to sim
34:15that well. I couldn't I couldn't get the four of them together to sim that well.
34:19Um so I just I just like and and because I guess it was because the thing that cost me today was being stubborn about
34:24Higgby. I mean, ultim or ultimately at the end of the day, the the the reason why I played bad today was because I was
34:30stubborn about playing Higgby instead of Hawinson. That that is that is the moral of the story is that I could have had a
34:36good day, but I was too I was too stubborn about Hawinson. No, the problem was that I didn't The problem was that I did IKB. If I would have just
34:45listened to the computer about Ainson, I would have had a bunch of good teams, but I I was too I was too [ __ ]
34:50stubborn.
34:53You're on mute, Nate. That's the whole thing with tournaments is people continue to IKB these projections because they look at them and they're
34:59like, "Hawinson isn't good. This isn't right." But it's like targets are still targets. Volume is still volume. Teams are going to throw pass plays. These
35:06guys are going to run routes. Like I don't care how bad you are. Like there's upside there. So sometimes you should just listen to the
35:13computer.
35:15>> Uh I mean I think probably a lot of the time you should you should just listen to the computer and Hawinson is is a
35:20pretty good example. So, this is Sammy's team. Straoud, Dererick Henry, Emanuel Wilson, Nico Pickkins, Addison, KD, Wix, and the Bears. What uh what tournament
35:30was this in, Sammy?
35:33>> It was in the spy.
35:36>> There you go. Also, also in the spy.
35:38Good for good for uh for a min cash. YOU KNOW WHAT? I SHOULD BE windmilling the Isaiah Williams touchdown this week.
35:45These [ __ ] non ballnowers telling me I'm so >> Oh, WE HAD TWO CATCHES THIS WEEK. OH, WOW. YEAH. They're great.
35:52>> No, dude. I was Dude, >> two cactus.
35:55>> You know what? This is all This is all coalescing. This is all coalesing for me just to continue. I mean, the Walker the
36:02Walker stuff is so good for me. Like, I'm I'm advancing so many teams in baseball right now because Walker is like the absolute nutted you had to have
36:10him guy. And And you know what? The the Sims, the computers are not catching up to the Kenneth Walker stuff. every every
36:18uh outlet had McAffrey for more points than Walker today. It's not going to be it's not going to be that way next week,
36:23I don't think. I I think with another week of of poor CMC efficiency, I think we are going to get there. Uh Sammy, I
36:31hate Dantavian Wix and the flex on this team. Absolutely hate it.
36:37>> It's not It's not great. I I don't know how to defend myself. I thought Wix would like legitimately have a good
36:42game. Um, yeah. I just I I just I just duffed it, man. You know, but the way the way I wanted to build this lineup is I wanted
36:51to get, you know, the the Dallas and Texans game. And so getting Nico Collins, I thought he'd be like severely underowned because, you know, it's his
37:01first game back. And so I wanted to get that going on. Uh, but I didn't run it back with Cidi. I ran it back with
37:08Pickkins because it was like, "Oh, you know, CD's been mogging Pickkins all year. I think they're probably closer than that, even though I think CD is
37:15better, but he was obviously like, you know, way way more expensive as well."
37:19So, you know, went went with Pickkins in this spot and it just, you know, just didn't quite get there. Proud of the
37:25Emanuel Wilson. Proud of myself. Uh, we got some money in this lineup, but god damn it. Yeah, I the Wix was bad and I
37:33knew it was bad and I was just like, well, I really like the rest, you know, and when Wix goes six for 58, it'll be
37:39fine. And it wasn't fine.
37:40>> Could have just could have just could have just could have just easily played TJ Hawinson. Could have easily played the Rams defense and then got from
37:48picking Shalam and Ben and Ben Rich.
37:52>> Yep. Yep. I don't I don't like I don't like money. It's all good.
37:57>> Yeah. Uh, all right, Nate. What team do you want me to run?
38:01Uh, let's see. Let's do my uh I had a small field touchdown team that I liked.
38:06Um, so this field >> size like 500.
38:09>> No, it's 111. It's the >> $2 $200. All right.
38:14>> $200 touchdown.
38:16>> Okay. What?
38:16>> Uh, Joe Burrow, uh, Christian McAffrey, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, Parker Washington, T. Higgins, Brenton Strange,
38:28TJ Hawinson, Dolphins, >> Burl, Washington.
38:35>> You know, the the sharpest thing about this lineup, Nate, is playing a defense against Kyler Murray.
38:42>> Kyler Murray, >> you know, I'm proud of you.
38:44>> Yeah. When it when it came to cash, dude, I did not want to play I did not want to play three Vikings. I was just
38:49like, look, bro, like Kyler sucks.
38:52That's been my take all year. He continues to suck. I know I know these guys got there. Um, but God, I don't
38:59want I don't want any part of the Vikings offense.
39:04>> Uh, I mean, I think we all knew that. I I think we like we can all like we we can all be done with the Kyler Murray uh
39:12derangement syndrome of which I was a part, you know, I I was I drafted Kyler in baseball. like I but all I needed was
39:19I needed the scales uh taken from my eyes last week, right? And uh that was it. That was all I needed to see. I got
39:28I got four quarters of Kyler Murray last week. He was awful. He couldn't do anything. I it it felt like the exact
39:34same as the Kyler Murray Arizona experience. The Vikings had two really easy games against the Buccaneers and the Dolphins. Now they play at the
39:44Saints. Uh they play home to the Colts.
39:46They play at the Lions and they play home to the Bills. We are We are a lot of people who were very comfortable
39:52playing T.J. Hawinson this week are going to have to look themselves in the mirror and say, "All right, I got away
39:57with one. I got away with one that time because the Kyler Murray experience of which look, dude, I I got the Oklahoma
40:05helmet behind me. Like, I love Kyler, but it's it's over. Here you go."
40:09>> You know, the the real the real good take for Hawinson would have been that Kyler is too small to see anything. So,
40:16he's just gonna like dump it to Hawinson a bunch because Hawinson's tall and can sit right in the flat. And uh you know
40:23that's that that's the ball no take that got you to Hawinson should have been.
40:27>> I mean that was that that that is exactly what did happen was like every Hawinson reception was just a to like it
40:34was all Kyler bailing out of whatever else was was designed. Uh eight% >> this is what Yeah. This is what I wanted
40:41to see because all of these players project for really high ownership. Yeah, >> all of them. There is really not anybody
40:47here that's not Chalk. Um, the Dolphins D was the only one that's not Chalk, but all of them came in at relatively high
40:53ownership, >> but the combination was very unique.
40:58Nobody actually stacked Burrow, Brown, Chase, and Higgins and then and then T and brought it back with Strange. Uh, because if they had Strange, they had uh
41:09Lawrence. And so this was like a >> it's one of those things where I >> I don't know why, but like sometimes
41:16these fall through the cracks of the Sims where it's like the ownership is high, but it doesn't seem like I don't know. I I I don't know if this
41:23is sharp. Maybe I'd ask for other like postcontest sims to look at it, but like it it feels like one of those things
41:29that like when you look at it, it's like, "Oh, this looks too chalky, too high projected." But it actually seems like it falls in these cracks of these
41:36ownership things where it's like, oh no, nobody's actually playing all of these combinations.
41:43>> Yeah, I think it's I think it's good. I think I think this is a sharp lineup, Nate.
41:47>> I think it's sharp. I think you're on the right track and you've been doing this all year where it's like, look,
41:52you're you're doing good projections, but combinatorically it's just going to be very unique and uh yeah, I I I think it was very sharp.
42:00And maybe it was the smaller field specifically that I was like, "Oh, I just in a bigger field. Obviously, I wouldn't play something like this, but
42:07111 and it Yeah. But >> yeah. And and and to kind of unpack that, like the theory is that, you know,
42:15these these big onslaught are going to do better in smaller fields. In larger fields, you kind of like need to like
42:20hit the nuts, but in smaller fields, like if you have one game that goes off and people don't have those combos, like
42:27you can easily get to the top. So, I I think it was very well thought out.
42:30Honestly, >> I agree. I I I think these types of teams in these smaller um in these smaller contests are quite good. I was I
42:42was much more hesitant about the Cincinnati Jacksonville game than the field because both these teams are super low pace of play. They're both bottom
42:52five in seconds per play and seconds to snap. So, I was just wor like I knew obviously like some pieces would get
42:59there which is what did happen. T mega got there. Uh strange mega got there for the Jags. I was just worried that it was
43:08going to be like yeah there would be three really great individual performances, but this isn't going to be like a Lions game where they run like 92
43:15plays each or or whatever. So, I I went >> I went way lower on all these pieces and and all my stuff. I just know that the
43:23the Bengals are going to have one of these games where like when Burrow gets it together, whatever week he does, it's
43:29always like week five, six, like they they take the first couple weeks off every year it feels like and then they
43:34finally get there. But >> yeah, >> but yeah, I don't know. It didn't sim out well pre-lock, but I was looking at
43:41it and I was like I I think there's something in this that Yeah. But obviously Jamar Chase got hurt, so it didn't do anything, but it it
43:50still had a high score overall. Yeah.
43:52And frankly, I would just I would just say my experience was that I couldn't get I could not get anything that I
44:00built to sim better than 10% sim ROI this morning. I built like 20 different lineups with like guys I liked some like
44:08I literally was just like sorting by like highest projected points just like trying to get something to sim well.
44:13like all the stuff that I did like when I just did the regular sim runner when I just ran like 5,000 teams or whatever
44:19the stuff that was simming well I was like >> yeah man if I guess like if I was a different type of person I would play
44:25that but it was like you know Sam Darnold doubles and and I was just I was like I can't I can't get I can't get to
44:32to any of this stuff. Um so I I passed it. Uh all right guys, Sunday Night Football is starting. Sammy has to go
44:38cry about his San Diego Padres's. We will be back with you guys next week.
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