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0:43To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:48Welcome in! Huh? Huh? What? You didn't like the start of it?
0:52No, what's going on? I think I had some candy.
0:56You got candy in your mouth? I think I had some candy in my mouth.
1:01Ha ha ha! Oh! You know what? Just click those Mike and Ikes around real quick.
1:06It's taken me 42 years, but I'm ready to admit the truth.
1:10Candy is delicious. Is there sugar in there? I think so.
1:14Yeah. Yeah, they haven't really nailed the taking sugar out of candy and making it still taste good thing.
1:20They've got some like versions of candy out there that give you some pretty hardcore farts.
1:26Oh, you're talking about the malitol farts. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:29Malitol cocktail. Jason knew, right? What? Sugar-free chocolate is a problem and should not be consumed.
1:35Sugar-free chocolate is, the only way they can do it is malitol and you're going to ruin everybody else's leak.
1:41It's just, it's not meant for human consumption. It gives you leaky butt.
1:46I found that the Sours, there's a company that does them and they're okay.
1:50The texture is different. Different. Like you kind of know.
1:54Yes. You know they're trying to pull one over on you.
1:58But sometimes it's, sometimes it works. It's necessary. Uh, welcome into the Fantasy Footballers.
2:02Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway back with you.
2:05We've got a full production crew today. Inducers Allie, Al Borland, Papa Josh and the Falcon in the building.
2:12For now. We'll keep an eye on him. You say he may fly the roost.
2:17You never know. You never know. Uh, we have an NFC East breakdown episode.
2:22Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, Giants on today's episode. And I believe one more divisional breakdown show after this one.
2:28Correct. Should be. Going over to the West. Yeah.
2:31The West only has three teams this year. Did you know that?
2:35I did know that. Yeah. As a Cardinals fan, I am well aware.
2:39So that'll be the Saturday episode and then we'll be through all the divisions.
2:44If you missed any of them, we're kind of breaking down the changes for the teams, uh, addition, subtractions, head coaching offenses,
2:51expectations, players that are kind of, you know, not, not the obvious draft picks, but the more debatable upside downside situations.
2:59So we'll get into the NFC East today. You can pick up the ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit.com or better yet.
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3:42A quick question of the day. I don't think we're going to do one today.
3:47Oh no, we do have one. Hey ballers. How much do you guys focus on strength of schedule when drafting Tom and Ohio wants to know?
3:55So, I mean, in these divisional breakdowns, if you're paying attention, we always talk about the opening schedule for that team because that, that can matter.
4:04You know, there's players that you don't, you know, I don't, I don't give a crap what the schedule is.
4:11I don't care how hard you say it is.
4:14Every, every format can say this is the worst schedule imaginable.
4:18And there's still fantasy players that you will draft regardless, but there's somewhere you're not moving off of Josh Allen.
4:25Cause Oh no, it's a tough defense, but it's there.
4:28There's guys where it can be a tiebreaker. Sometimes you need, you, you're, you have a roster construction where, you know, in
4:35this round, like, Oh, I got to get a player that I know I'd be able to play for a month.
4:43Maybe this isn't a season long player, but throughout time through like the waivers, I'll be able to do it.
4:49It's fun to look at the playoff schedule and dream at and hope at this time of year, but it's still too early to be doing that.
4:58Yeah. There's so much turnover on the defensive side.
5:02And what I was going to say is I really pay attention to extreme matchups to start the year.
5:08If I, cause I know Houston's defense is going to be really good.
5:12Sure. But the, but something middle of the pack or something that rated gets rated as a, a kind of a bad
5:20matchup based off of last year's numbers and stats and players.
5:24I'm not overemphasizing that. Like I'm looking for extremely easy matchups.
5:27Like I still know that Cincinnati and Dallas are not going to be, they're not gonna be top 10 defenses.
5:34So those are going to be juicy to start the year, but I'm not overemphasizing it myself.
5:40Yeah. And then the, the only thing I would say that I specifically look at, I mean, if I'm in my draft
5:47and I figure I'm going to end up streaming my quarterback.
5:51So I, I missed out on, you know, the top studs and now I'm getting towards double digit round.
5:57You're not missing out on Josh Allen the last few months.
6:01I'll tell you that. No, no, I'm not. Uh, but should that happen?
6:06Then I look at the schedule for those later round quarterbacks that I don't think I'm necessarily just playing for 17 games.
6:13I'm going to say, well, who's he playing week one, week two.
6:17And then certainly every single draft, the thing I probably care about the most when it comes to the defenses that I'm
6:25picking is what, what, what are they getting off to?
6:28You know, are you know, if it's like, Oh, do you want to play against the lions in week one?
6:35Right. No. Uh, but like the Packers, the Packers start, um, Minnesota, the jets, the Falcons, they're good defense.
6:41Like that's, I'm fine with this stuff. Cause I need, I need Micah to be back and I don't think he'll be there to open the season.
6:50All right, let's talk news. News and notes from around the league.
6:54ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports lions tight end Sam Laporta with the herniated disc fully cleared for training camp.
7:00So the Laporta train keeps going. Keeps going. Hey, incredible.
7:04Citing your source work over there, Andy. Oh yeah.
7:07Yeah. It was ESPN's Jeremy Fowler that did that.
7:10Yeah. Uh, the Seahawks officially placed running back Zach Charbonnet on the pup to be expected.
7:15He should start the season on the pup as well.
7:19The dolphins place Chris bell, their rookie wide receiver on the active NFI list, recovering from an ACL.
7:25Not completely unexpected at this point, slightly disappointing. You know, you, you hope with the whole, uh, we don't have any whiteout situation.
7:33They have that as well as just this, the, you know, the year of the peptide advanced healing ahead of schedule.
7:40You know, you want them out there, but, um, he tore his ACL pretty late.
7:45So you, you know, whether he's there week one is TBD.
7:49Albert Breer reporting. The Buccaneers are prepared to dive in on negotiations with Baker Mayfield this week.
7:54That's good. Is there a team now unprepared to have negotiations with their quarterback?
7:59Well, I, I just want to know the difference between current status and diving in.
8:04Like, is this, we've been in a big room or getting into a smaller room?
8:09Yeah. Wait, are we in a pool legitimately? Yeah.
8:12I mean, are we, are we feet in? Are we waste in?
8:16No, if you're diving in, you can't be. You have nothing in?
8:20No, not yet. You're about to dive in. Maybe you can help me with this.
8:25The NFL Network's Ian Rappaport says the Cardinals are in agreement.
8:29That Jacoby Brissett quote deserves more money. This is a great news section today.
8:34I love this report. This is, yeah. We all agree he deserves more money.
8:39Yeah. No, we're not going to pay him more.
8:42Yeah. But like, dude deserves it. He deserves the world.
8:45The funny thing is, Jacoby Brissett is his own agent, which I find to be all the more humorous in my cartoonish mind.
8:53Jacoby's agent also agrees. Yes. Yes. He deserves more money.
8:56Yeah. They're all of them agree. Jacoby, his agent, the Cardinals.
9:00We just can't quite get there on what that represents.
9:03I've never seen the self-agent thing work for the benefit of the player.
9:08I feel like we've heard about it working. I mean, if you're LeBron or something like...
9:13Lamar has been negotiating some stuff. Okay. Well, that's like if you are the most elite where you're basically going to get everything you ask for, okay.
9:22But if you're not, you need an agent. I feel like it's...
9:26But the counterpoint would be, if you're not, I don't need an agent coming in putting hands in the pockets.
9:33Oh, you want the hands. You want to give the 10% away because that agent is going to get you more.
9:40Well, both those teams ready to dive in, just really haven't dove in yet.
9:45But they're getting there. There's a chance any day now.
9:48Let's get it going. Let's get divisional. The NFC East last year.
9:53Philadelphia won the division at 11-6. It was the first time we've had back-to-back division champs in the NFC East since 03-04.
10:00That is wild. The other thing I've noticed when I look at all the recent winners, if I count it back from
10:07this past year, Eagles, Eagles, Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, Eagles, and so on, is that the Giants haven't appeared in that list since 2011.
10:16Every other team has won the division at least three times since the last time the Giants won it.
10:2215 years ago. Which is wild because... They're not winning it this year.
10:26Yeah. Well, not with that speech. Dude. Harbaugh. It's the New York...
10:30I see the New York Giants. It's the New York Giants.
10:34No, hold on. It's the New York Giants. If you haven't seen Harbaugh's incredible, motivational speech...
10:40Yeah, it was... It was on John Gannon level.
10:43He did not have a script. But... Let's put it that way.
10:47Yeah, I wouldn't put it all the way to Gannon, but it was disappointing.
10:52It was lame. It didn't work for me. It was lame.
10:55It didn't do much. Yeah. Hopefully, there's been some better conversations.
10:59And I don't know Harbaugh. I don't know his tendencies.
11:02At that point, you just got to start cursing.
11:05You have no material, man. Oh, is that where you got to go?
11:10Just unleash it. What about pew, pew, pew, pew, pew?
11:13Pew, pew. Got a fire in your belly? I like what the Falcons are saying.
11:18You know, Liam Cohen was cringed till the winds started flowing.
11:22Yeah. Well, but we know who Harbaugh is. Yeah.
11:25Yeah, he's got to cringe. Let's start with Philly.
11:28Last year, projected win total, 11 and a half.
11:31Eight and four and one score games. They have whatever the...
11:35Just short. What do you mean? Well, the projection was...
11:38Oh, 11. Yeah. They have the opposite of the 49ers situation going on the last two years.
11:44They have been one of the healthiest teams in all of football.
11:48We'll see if that continues. San Francisco should hire away some of those guys.
11:53Yeah. There is certainly a huge amount of luck built into health, but there has to be...
11:59Yeah. ...better staffs. And when you have a crap medical staff, as in you look and your team is always getting wrecked
12:06by injuries, you got to start looking around at what other people are doing.
12:11Yeah. The training... I don't even know if it's the medical staff versus the training staff and whatever you're doing.
12:18I mean, they're doing something wrong in San Francisco.
12:21There's just no way that you are always that injured.
12:24But yeah, it's nice that the Eagles were healthy.
12:27Obviously, that helps them get to the Super Bowl.
12:30And honestly, last year, despite their health, one of their big problems, and we saw it was whenever they were missing Lane
12:38Johnson, they looked like a different offense. Well, this year, they are projected for 10 and a half wins.
12:44They have a new offensive coordinator, Sean Mannion. Again.
12:47Again, another new one. One of the interesting things about their offense, since it's always a part of the debate, back in 2024, they had 48 tush pushes.
12:57They converted 81% of those. Last year, 33 tush pushes.
13:00Pushes. Pushes. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. They converted 64% of them.
13:03I almost made the joke. And oof. Just don't say it three times fast, Mike.
13:08Don't do it. Sixth in points per game in terms of their defense giving up.
13:13You know, they were an elite defense. We know that about them.
13:18But on the offensive side, it wasn't great. 24th in yards per game.
13:2219th in points per game. That's how you end up with a new offensive coordinator.
13:27The problem that I have is that, generally speaking, your offense doesn't take a step forward when you're already older, running back
13:34gets older, and your best wide receiver leaves, and you replace him with Hollywood Brown and Dontavian Wicks.
13:41And Mekhi Lemon. Mekhi Lemon is certainly not A.J.
13:44Brown today. Maybe he can get there tomorrow. But I do have my concerns about the trajectory of the offense and whether we're going to see...
13:52Like, we've gotten the whole experience with Philadelphia. We've gotten...
13:56Offensive coordinator comes in, they stink. We have offensive coordinator comes in, Kellen Moore, they're awesome.
14:01We now have another one coming in. It's just a team that's quick to turn on somebody.
14:07It's really... Well, it's not always turning on somebody.
14:10Sometimes it's success and sometimes it's failure. It's been pretty much every other year.
14:15They went to the Super Bowl. Shane Steichen was great.
14:18Ended up going to Brian Johnson. He sucked. They were like, ah, that didn't work.
14:23So then they've got to replace him. They bring in Kellen Moore.
14:27That was great. He did so well that he gets a head coaching job.
14:32Then Kevin Petullo comes in. He sucked. And he was terrible.
14:36One of the worst offenses imaginable to watch. And you can blame Jalen Hurts and say...
14:41Some people did. Some people said, well, Petullo's got to dumb down the offense because Jalen Hurts can't read defenses, blah, blah, blah.
14:49We're not inside the building. I have no idea if that's true or not.
14:54But I know that we've seen Jalen Hurts run a good offense.
14:58We've seen him go out there and rush for 600 and throw for 3,800.
15:03So he can do it. Now you're making another change.
15:06You're going to Sean Mannion. And so, yeah, running back older.
15:10No A.J. Brown. No A.J. Brown. Those are negatives.
15:13But I do think that the shift of the offense is massively important.
15:17It's a huge upgrade because what we saw from the system last year was so bland, vanilla, boring.
15:23Well, let me say a couple things. One thing we did learn was that they couldn't fix it even when they tried last year.
15:31It wasn't like they didn't know something was wrong in week two, three, four, five, six, seven.
15:37They couldn't get it right. The other thing I want to bring up, and this is a fair question, like we've seen this many, many times.
15:46Some players have very special seasons. You go back to 2022.
15:50Jalen Hurts, in our consistency metrics, 53% great games.
15:5380% good, 7% bust. Last year, the worst in all three metrics for him, 13% great games.
15:58That's a humongous difference on what you're getting week to week.
16:02And just 44% good games. He busted 31% of the time.
16:06I know we can point to lots of different things, but at least the range of outcomes is there for Jalen Hurts.
16:13You could have a resurgent year. Devontae Smith, Makai Lemon, Dallas Goddard, Saquon can run the ball.
16:19The offensive line stays healthy, but you can also get this.
16:23And so I think it is one of those things where fantasy managers are having a hard time knowing whether they should
16:30reward the past in their draft spot for Jalen Hurts now.
16:34I think they should. Obviously, I've been a Jalen Hurts apologist for many years.
16:39Sometimes it's been great. It's never really been bad.
16:42It's not like he crushed you last year, but it was very disappointing.
16:46And the change, though, to me, obviously lose A.J.
16:49Brown. That's not helpful to the offense. However, I think when they spread the ball around and not having to force it one direction is good.
16:58But also, on the goal line, I mean, the tush push has been magical for them over the last several years.
17:05It's not in the news anymore, meaning it's not coming up.
17:09It's not being voted on this year. It will be back.
17:13If you look at just tush pushes over the last couple of years, there were opportunities that just didn't come this last year.
17:20And that's, you know, you had 13 attempts two years ago, 15 attempts the season prior.
17:26And then this last year, only eight attempts at the goal that they just found themselves on the goal line.
17:33And that's been his secret sauce for fantasy. He hasn't since his sophomore year has been double digit touchdowns every year.
17:4015 touchdowns, 14 rushing touchdowns. Last year is eight.
17:43It's just many fewer attempts at the tush push on the goal line.
17:47Those are things that I don't think are. I mean, he only had 421 rushing yards, which is outside of the touchdown argument.
17:55You're talking about a pretty big downgrade for him.
17:58He's gone from 7, 84, 7, 60, 60, 5, 6, 30, 4, 21.
18:02You're going to have to have the rushing touchdowns go up.
18:06He is not, you know, he's going to be 28.
18:10I think that the years of having, you know, 700 plus rushing yards, those are gone.
18:15Did you mean passing touchdowns going up or were you saying rushing touchdowns?
18:19Rushing touchdowns. Oh, okay. Yeah, because rushing touchdowns the last couple years, he's been at 14, 15, and then this last year drops to eight.
18:28That's a massive amount of fantasy points when you're talking about losing seven rushing touchdowns.
18:33I wasn't sure if you were saying he needs to become more prolific as a touchdown thrower because his rushing yardage is diminishing.
18:41No, I mean, I think those are different things.
18:44The rushing yardage will be going down, but I don't think the rushing touchdown totals will necessarily be going down because of the tush push.
18:52When they get to the one-yard line, that's not like upping his rushing yardage.
18:57Oh, but they're less successful at it now. They're slightly, but it's still the most successful play in football.
19:03So, you know, it's like did they fail like once or twice more percentage-wise than they had the year prior?
19:10Yeah, but they're absolutely still going to call that play.
19:14Points per game, Hurts was still the QB seven.
19:17So, I mean, he finishes at 10, but he didn't play the last week.
19:21I think there's a lot more risk to Jalen Hurts now than there ever has been before.
19:27Oh, see, I feel like the risk earlier. Because A.J.
19:31Brown gave him a guaranteed passing game ceiling that I don't think he can necessarily meet.
19:36I mean, last year, those numbers you talked about, Mike, that was just career high in passing touchdowns.
19:42If they hadn't been there, you're talking about an even more disappointing year consistency-wise.
19:47ADP-wise, he's the last of the, like, you feel cozy.
19:50They feel like a warm blanket of job. So you both feel that way?
19:55Well, I'm just saying what the price is, a point where right now it's hurt, or I'm sorry, Josh Allen, Lamar, Drake,
20:02Joe Burrow, Jalen, then Hurts is what I'm seeing for current redraft ADP.
20:07So at that point, it's like, what's the, you know, in your head, Andy, what's the, how large is the gap between
20:14Hurts and Jalen or Hurts and Burrow? Like, do you, as a fantasy football player, are you feeling, oh, I'm so confident?
20:22Yeah, so then why just wait for Hurts? Yeah.
20:25It would be the thesis. So I think he's a fine pick.
20:29I think it's fair to put him at the end of the list of the known commodities for fancy quarterbacks.
20:36Yeah. I think you can say both things, and both things can be true, where he's probably not going to be a
20:43top three quarterback anymore because the rushing yardage isn't going to be up at 750 plus.
20:48He's not going to be a bad quarterback for fantasy because of the rushing touchdowns.
20:54And so this year, the risk is, it's the lowest ADP we've seen from him in several years.
21:00You're getting him in the sixth round. Yeah, I think people have doubts about the offense without AJ Brown and doubts about,
21:07you know, the next player we're going to talk about, which is Saquon Barkley, who had the prolific Super Bowl winning incredible
21:152024 season, 17 20 plus yard runs, 740 plus yard runs.
21:18This was just truly unbelievable. Last year, I mean, we did not see the explosiveness from him.
21:24And so people want to know for fantasy, where does he slot in among the big names?
21:30Is a resurgent year in the cards or, you know, I've seen some people talk about Saquon in the context of he's
21:37never been great at like getting what wasn't like not having that offensive line that setting things up for him.
21:44He always wants a home run. But like going back to the time as a giant, you know, he there's plays where
21:51you're like, come on, Saquon, just take take the four, take the four, take the five here.
21:57So that's just that's part of the Saquon Barkley experience.
22:01I mean, he was there were 55 qualified running backs that had 80 or more attempts last year.
22:07He was ranked 48 in stuffed at the line of scrimmage.
22:10And honestly, that tells me he wants to hit the home run.
22:15And it worked really well when all the lanes were wide open.
22:19But 48 then rushed success rate as well. 42nd in yards after contact per attempt.
22:24People were getting bodies on him. And the team could not pass the ball well to start the year.
22:30So I think more teams were stuck in the box against him.
22:34And it was working. Yeah. Could Saquon have a resurgent year?
22:38Yes. Lane Johnson being healthy, opening the lanes up.
22:41That could happen. I am more skeptical. When I watched Tank Bigsby behind the same offensive line last year, he looked great.
22:48Yeah. And, you know, obviously Saquon is a very, very, very good, you know, an all time back.
22:54But he's 29 years old. How many games did Lane even miss?
22:59I feel like he missed almost nothing. We do talk.
23:02He was banged up. But I feel like he barely missed any games.
23:06I think he missed. I think he missed like within a game where he technically started.
23:12I'll look that up. But I remember it being a big.
23:15I see 10 games for Lane. Oh, OK. Yeah.
23:19So he missed a good amount. Big storyline often of how much that hurt their offense.
23:2413 carries inside the five for Saquon. One rushing touchdown.
23:27Yikes. So to see the push, tush, tush, push.
23:30There you go. I'm really weary around that phrase now.
23:34To see those numbers go down and the Saquon rushing touchdowns go down is interesting.
23:39Devontae Smith, you know, I think that his ADP, he's a player that his ADP is going to continue to rise into August.
23:47I guess that's my only concern about him. It's going way up.
23:51So redraft right now, he's kind of been, you know, in your mocks and things of like this.
23:57Oh, yeah. I got Devontae Smith in the wide receiver choice.
24:01He's not. You could steal him for a while.
24:04In best ball, he's a top 12 guy. Yeah.
24:07I was going to say he's being drafted. I think that Devontae Smith without AJ Brown is essentially a wide receiver one for fantasy.
24:15He's already finished there before. We've seen it whenever AJ Brown has missed time that Devontae Smith steps up.
24:21But you're not getting a discount on him. It's not surprising people.
24:25He's being drafted right now in best ball drafts like a wide receiver one.
24:30And when push comes to shove later, I think he's a fine pick.
24:34But the upside is kind of built in. I think that the guy on this offense whose upside is not baked into
24:42ADP, I don't know why it just doesn't feel exciting at all.
24:46But Makai Lemon. Yeah. Makai Lemon is, one, great.
24:49I mean, I think he is a fantastic wide receiver.
24:52He was a first-round pick at wide receiver. There was a big three this year.
24:57He was one of those big three great wide receivers coming in.
25:02And he's coming in to a team that lost AJ Brown.
25:05So it's like, oh, okay. There's ways and avenues.
25:08You go like, this is a good offense. There's an opportunity.
25:12And the talent is there. Should he be like a breakout surprising year one player, you're drafting him at a place where
25:19that's going to be very impactful and helpful for fantasy football.
25:23Yeah, with training camp on the way, it will be interesting to hear what the utilization of Lemon and Wicks, what they're doing.
25:31Because Makai Lemon could really start moving up in ADP right now where he is.
25:36Like, that's mid-seventh, late seventh round for a first-round wide receiver in a team that has a bunch of opportunity.
25:43Those are players you should draft. Yeah, the wide receiver room is going to be an interesting one to watch in Philly.
25:50I mean, Devontae Smith, the cost is still high, but he's not like, I think most people are putting like George Pickens
25:58up ahead of him right now in rankings. And that's a player where you're like, okay, Devontae Smith should be their bona
26:05fide number one, but the volume differential. Makai Lemon is a discussion.
26:09Wicks will watch training camp. But Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard is the most sneaky, hidden, possible tight end gem that exists, in my opinion.
26:17It is like we're sitting here discussing the gargantuan absence of A.J.
26:21Brown. Makai Lemon, Eli Stowers is making no headlines.
26:25Makai Lemon has made few. He's been hurt. He's been banged up the hamstring.
26:29But a rookie to come in and become a superstar for fantasy versus a tight end being able to be a number two target.
26:37If he's the number two target for the Eagles, there were lots of games last year.
26:43He was super viable due to other players missing games.
26:46Due to touchdowns. Well, he had 11 touchdowns. But I'm just saying like this seems like the Dallas Goddard solo project year
26:54where you could have a bridge here between Lemon growing into the role and Stowers growing into the role.
27:00And here's Goddard getting 90 plus percent of snaps in an offense all year long.
27:05I don't mind taking a shot. He's one of the names we've brought up many times.
27:11When you're in the last round of your draft and you've done the thing where, hey, you didn't get one of the stud tight ends.
27:19So you're just punting the position to the end.
27:22He's in that list of absolutely take a shot at him.
27:2611 touchdowns last year. Now, that was an outlier for him.
27:30He's a guy who's usually been like four touchdowns a year.
27:33But with A.J. Brown gone and the proof that he can be utilized around the end zone, that's, you know, why not?
27:41Why not take a shot at him? He's always been ridiculously hurt, which has jacked up his fantasy finishes as well.
27:48If you look at points per game last year, it was his best because of the touchdowns 10.3.
27:54But he's had years of 9.5 before 9.1. So but he always misses time.
27:59I mean, he played 10 games the year before 14, 12, 15, 11.
28:03That's been his kind of problem. But I just think that if you're getting really, really late and you want to take
28:11somebody that you might just be able to leave in that spot, you're taking them as a streamer, but you might be
28:18able to leave them there all year long. I think Goddard is in that category.
28:23Yeah. So they open with Washington on the road against Tennessee, on the road against Chicago, then Rams and Jacksonville after that.
28:31But so those first three weeks, I mean, it's interesting.
28:34I'm curious, Andy. So there's three old tight ends.
28:37They are going back to back to back. And they're tight end 13, 14, 15.
28:42So they're basically the undrafted, the first undrafted tight ends or near the end of your draft.
28:48Kelsey. So Kelsey's one of them. Andrews and Goddard.
28:51Yeah. I mean, I have Goddard leaps and bounds ahead of those guys.
28:55I mean, Goddard is my number 10. Oh, really?
28:58My number 10 overall tight end. I've got Kelsey at 17.
29:02I got Andrews at 21. I'll just take Kelsey of that group.
29:06Pretty, pretty Kelsey. I'm just, I'm just okay with the, he.
29:10I think Goddard's going to get, I mean, he still had 60 catches.
29:14Sure. Travis Kelsey still had 76 to 850 yards.
29:17Yeah. I understand. But he's, I mean, he is clearly on his last.
29:22Yes. This, this, this is the end for Travis.
29:25But as of right now. You're taking the PPR.
29:28It's like, yeah. Kelsey's probably still the number two target.
29:31Yeah. Yeah. We may have to bet that later on.
29:35Kelsey will probably have more work. And then if you talk touchdowns, obviously you can have 11 from Goddard last year, but
29:42around the goal line, they'll, they'll still look for Kelsey.
29:45Yeah. I mean, that's the one thing that my Kyle M is not a big dude.
29:51No. So, uh, AJ Brown has been that dude for a while.
29:55And I don't know. I just have a good feeling about Goddard.
29:59I don't like it. I don't want it. It's just there.
30:03It seems like the obvious pick on that roster that where we want to find somebody else to me, uh, we'll take a break.
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31:02The Dallas Cowboys. I wonder if you could have remembered their record last year.
31:07Do you know it? Have you looked in the doc?
31:10No, I didn't look at their record. Okay. Yeah.
31:13Try to try to remember because they they're just a weird team, man.
31:18Yes. Gosh. Last year. Because we are we are covered in the the the Pickens and Lamb and the offensive numbers.
31:25But what was their record, Jay? Man, I feel like it was near 500.
31:29Seven and nine. Yeah. Was it? Seven, nine and one.
31:33That's not even a complete record. Seven. Oh, yeah.
31:36Because eight and eight is is 16 now. I was I was doing old school.
31:41No, I really didn't. His projected win total last year, seven and a half.
31:46It's eight and a half this year. Warren Sharp has them with the fourth toughest schedule for twenty.
31:52We don't like that. They were number two in yards per game and five in points per game.
31:58They were a terrible defense. And here we go.
32:01Brian Schottenheimer season number two. Hot stat from Kyle.
32:04He coached all 17 games. Kyle? Kyle's coaching now?
32:07No. Brian Schottenheimer coached all 17 games with a visor on.
32:11Well, Kyle's not here. So I wondered. He's coaching.
32:14He just he has the visor stats for Brian Schottenheimer.
32:17Dude loves the visor. Clayton Adams. Not just the visor, but you could see him frequently with a backwards.
32:24Backwards visor. Which is not normal, but it is cool.
32:27That was normal for me as a sophomore with my bleached hair.
32:31Did you go backwards visor? Bro. Yeah. You weren't cool unless you were backwards visor.
32:36Sideways visor? No, I wasn't that cool. Okay. You know, you talked about Mike Booth, the tough schedule coming up for the Cowboys.
32:44But that is a potentially good thing for them.
32:47They do have the Houston Texans in their fourth game.
32:50But this isn't necessarily the most difficult schedules for offenses to play against.
32:55Sure. This is good teams. And I'm looking at the totality.
32:59And they've got a lot of games that could be absolute shootouts and barn burners.
33:04You know, the 49ers are going to represent a very tough schedule.
33:08But against when you're like the Cowboys and you don't have a good defense and you've got a great offense, you're going
33:15to be able to score on almost all of these teams.
33:19And so, I don't know, maybe a tough schedule from a wins and losses perspective is good for fantasy football.
33:26So, let's talk through the pieces here. Dak, we've heard you sing his praises throughout the offseason.
33:31CeeDee Lamb, George Pickens, I think there's been the fun debate amongst, you know, pundits about who's the better player as an actual wide receiver today.
33:40You know, I still have CeeDee Lamb higher. I think he's going to get the first look on a lot of plays.
33:48But George Pickens had a special year. And we know how he was much better with Lamb off the field.
33:54Lamb struggled with the drops. Both of these guys are certifiably studs for this year.
34:00Yes, they are both number ones. I think they are both worth the price of admission with both of them staying healthy.
34:07And then you also have the nitro upside. If the cowboy you don't have misses time, then yours is going to be even more valuable.
34:15So, just them with Dak and the two of them working together, it's an extremely exciting offense.
34:21And the fact that Javante is not a nothing burger really, really helps as well.
34:26I'm very excited. I'm drafting. I'm fine with CeeDee Lamb at wide receiver five.
34:31And I'm very okay with George at wide receiver 11.
34:34CeeDee Lamb is fantastic. He's 27 years old. He is in his absolute peak prime.
34:40He was an A in consistency over his last 17 games.
34:43That includes a game where he played almost 0% of the snaps.
34:47And he wasn't scoring touchdowns last year. He was still great for fantasy.
34:52He's obviously got the upside of scoring the touchdowns.
34:55You know, we saw 12 touchdowns a couple years ago.
34:58CeeDee Lamb is their alpha. And I think he's got a lot to prove coming off of an injured year.
35:05So, I still put CeeDee Lamb in, you know, basically in a tier A, tier 1.
35:10You know, JSN, CeeDee Lamb, to me, they're near each other.
35:14You cheering him above George? What's that? So, you have him above?
35:18Oh, he is definitely a tier above George to me, without a doubt.
35:23Nah. I mean... I think you... I mean, he is for me too, Mike.
35:27And I like George. I just... Yeah, that's not an anti-George take.
35:31He was a my guy last year. But when they were both on the field, it really was, you know, it was CeeDee Lamb getting it done.
35:41And just the comps with both of them on the field together.
35:45The sample of them both on the field is very difficult because it was like the first two games.
35:51Okay? So, that's... What did George do in those first two?
35:55Let me pull up those stats. So, week one was not great.
35:59Week two was solid for George Pickens. But I'm saying, like, that's his first two games as a Cowboy.
36:05So, of course, Dak is going to go to CeeDee Lamb to the tune of 13 and 11 targets.
36:12Then George goes absolutely nuclear in the time that CeeDee Lamb is off the field.
36:17And then when they were both back on, it was really both of them just being very good.
36:23Until the end of the season, there was kind of a slump.
36:27Let me bring up something that I don't think is very fun about the experience with Dallas that presented itself last year.
36:34Dak was the quarterback five. We know the counting stats are going to be there.
36:39He passed for over 4,500 yards last year despite missing CeeDee at 30 touchdowns.
36:44The weird thing about Dak last year was that, look, this team's projected, what, seven and a half wins?
36:51When they won the ballgame last year, he averaged 24 fantasy points.
36:55When they lost, he averaged 12. So, half the fantasy points in his losses is the largest gap between any of the top 15 quarterbacks.
37:03This was a, like, when it's good, it's great.
37:06And when they're losing, he was not a dependable enough fantasy quarterback.
37:10Does that trend concern you? Or is it something that you see?
37:14It doesn't destroy me because, number one, you don't have to pay up for Dak.
37:19Dak remains one of the best values at the quarterback position.
37:23One of those games that is really dragging down the average.
37:27He played half of week 18 against the Giants where he scored .7 fantasy point.
37:32So, that's involved another horrific game on the road against Denver.
37:36So, it's like that stuff makes sense. And, you know, when you're playing a fantasy quarterback like Dak and it's week eight
37:43on the road against the Denver Broncos, you go, hmm, maybe I don't start him.
37:48Maybe I don't play Dak this week. And that's, I think, a benefit to him.
37:53If you take him as a, what quarterback is he going as right now?
37:58He is going, I lost him. You guys have him ranked much higher than I do.
38:03But he's going as, like, QB 11. Ninth ramp.
38:07As a quarterback not being drafted as a top 10 who will, if he plays 16 games, Dak Prescott will finish as a top 10 quarterback.
38:15How many times has he done it in his career?
38:19Almost basically every single time that he has played a full season.
38:23He's been the quarterback 6, 10, 2, 7, 3, and 5.
38:27So, he's done it six times. As long as he has played 13 or more games, he has been a quarterback one.
38:34I want to play a game. It's a Javante Williams-centered game.
38:38Oh, man. Do you want boring Javante? Okay. This game is called Boring or Exciting.
38:43Okay. Okay. Do you want boring Javante? Or do you want Exciting?
38:47Cam Scadaboo. Jason, I'll let you go first. I want Cam Scadaboo.
38:51I want... Oh. I think I want Boring Javante.
38:54Do you want Boring Javante or Exciting Jeremiah Love?
38:57Jeremiah Love. Do you want Boring Javante Williams? Or do you want Exciting Travion Henderson?
39:02Travo. I don't want to answer this. Mike has to answer that one because I know he's going to be on the Javante side.
39:10It's Javante. Last question for you. Do you want Boring Javante Williams?
39:14Hmm. Let me pick a good one here. Or Exciting Quinshawn Judkins?
39:18I'll be on Javante there. Okay. Give me the offense.
39:22Really? We found... I feel like you've... You're always answering Judkins.
39:25Yeah. So, Javante, that's... Yeah, I mean... That's where the line is?
39:30You look at just the difference in touchdown opportunities between the Cowboys and the Browns and it makes it pretty easy.
39:37The most exciting thing about Javante is that this is not...
39:40There is no debate in this backfield of any kind.
39:44It is the most plain and simple. We paid him again and he's our running back and this is the running back for the Cowboys.
39:52Like that... I have zero fear of anybody else in that backfield.
39:56You can say Jaden Blue or Phil Moppa or...
39:59Malik Davis. Malik Davis. You can say... It's irrelevant.
40:02None of them matter. It's going to be Javante.
40:05The team got a lot out of him last year.
40:09It's the same coaching staff with an offensive line...
40:12Former offensive line head coach, right? Wasn't that what...
40:15Clayton Adams was a former... Yeah, the Cardinals. ...line guy.
40:18And he's like, yeah, let's just bring him back.
40:21So, I mean, there is something to be said about being able to start that guy every week you never think about it.
40:29Even in the Bayshall Tootin, Chris Rodriguez stuff, we have to have in the back of our head, oh, is he going
40:37to come off on a third down? Sure. Now, Javante's not good on it.
40:41He can't catch the ball, but he's going to be their starter.
40:45Yeah, I mean, you can't ask for much more than...
40:49Is he the goal line back? Absolutely. 100% when they're on the goal line, he's going to get the touchdown opportunities in the rushing game.
40:57Is he past two? Yeah. Over 50 targets from Dak last year.
41:01He's had over 70 recently when he was in Denver.
41:05Yeah, he won't do anything with him, but he's going to get the ball.
41:09Is he on a good offense? Yeah. I mean, the real issue here is, do they win games?
41:16That's, you know, they might be a sub-500 team.
41:19This will be a fun one to predict. Yeah.
41:22We have the Giants... I was just in real quick.
41:25...in Washington starting their season. Jake Ferguson in the...
41:28This is fantasy football is wild. Jake Ferguson, last year, eight top 10 fantasy finishes, second only to Trey McBride on the season.
41:36And I won't draft him. No, because... How many of those games were CeeDee Lamb out for?
41:42That's the whole thing. I mean, it's nice. Sign him immediately if one of those guys goes down.
41:48Yes. He is... He... Apparently, like, as much as Prescott loves throwing to the tight end position, there's...
41:54I guess there's only enough to go around for two.
41:57And if one of those two is Jake Ferguson, he's going to be great.
42:02But otherwise, I would avoid him. All right. The Washington Commanders.
42:06It was a lost season. 5-12 after having a great year with the Jaden Daniels rookie campaign.
42:11Their projected win total going into last year was 9-1.
42:15Oh, just missed. Yeah. Yeah. They had... If they doubled, they would have covered.
42:20The Eagles were the healthiest team or one of the most healthy teams.
42:24This was one of the most injured teams. Nine starters missed at least seven games.
42:29Third most adjusted games lost due to injury. It's exactly what it felt like.
42:34You never even got... Like, Jaden and McLaurin didn't even get to play together.
42:39I think they had three games out of 17 together.
42:42And so it was a disaster. I mean, this year, the win total has been nerfed down a little from that 9-1⁄2.
42:49It's at 7-1⁄2. I'll be honest. I mean, there are some teams I have a really good vibe, feel, understanding of what it's going to look like.
42:59This team, with the departure of Cliff Kingsbury, with Jaden Daniels trying to get back to health situation, with, you know, question marks in the wide receiver room...
43:08And a vampire calling the offense. Blah. Blah, blah, blah.
43:11Blah, blah. Yes. I don't think I know what they're going to be, is my point.
43:17I feel like we're so far removed from seeing the offense.
43:21Vegas doesn't either. Vegas says, uh... We'll go 7-1⁄2.
43:247-1⁄2? Yeah. I mean, I don't... Most of these reviews were, like, looking at what they did last year.
43:30This one, I feel like it's kind of... Not only is it unhelpful because you have a change in offensive coordinator, but
43:38it's unhelpful because you just didn't have players in place last year to do anything that are going to be in those spots to start this year.
43:47I mean, Jaden has got an offseason to get healthy.
43:50Terry McLaurin's going to be back out there. They have made some changes to the offensive side of the ball.
43:57They brought in Chigakonkwo. They brought in Rashad White.
44:00They drafted Antonio Williams in the third round, a player I think we all kind of...
44:05We like to film. Mm-hmm. We said goodbye to the old dudes, Debo, Ertz, Eckler.
44:10That was kind of, like, stopgap guys that... Like, none of those...
44:14Well, Ertz was, but the other two weren't a part of the previous season, right, where they had the success and went to the playoffs.
44:23So I don't even know if Ertz was now that I'm thinking about it.
44:28But... He was there. Yeah, Ertz was a part of that.
44:31I couldn't remember when he left Arizona. No, no.
44:34He's been in Washington for two years. Okay. He got...
44:38Yeah. But last offseason... 24, he played the full year.
44:41Like, Eckler and Debo were parts of the conversation in the draft area.
44:46Area of the year last year. Yes. They're gone.
44:49What are they going to be? What is this team going to be on offense?
44:54Because you've got to tell me that there's some reliable pass catchers for me to believe in Jaden.
45:00Yeah, I mean, so obviously there is a reliable pass catcher in Terry McLaurin, so you've got one.
45:06Antonio Williams, high draft capital, wide receiver that I think fits the mold for a wide receiver, too.
45:12Pretty good. He's a last-round dart throw in a lot of...
45:16I mean, we've been taking him in mock drafts as one of those later rookies who has opportunity and talent and a good quarterback here in Jaden.
45:25The... For Antonio Williams, he did play 93% of his routes from the slot last year.
45:30And yes, I know that things can be overmade about that where a college player plays in the slot and then they're like, no, I can do everything.
45:40But this isn't a first-round wide receiver. He's a third-round guy.
45:44Does that give you any concern that should they follow the trends and only have two wide receivers out there that he won't be the second guy?
45:53Yeah, I mean, obviously, if he's just being a slot wide receiver for the commanders, then he's not going to be great for fantasy.
46:01You know, you look at how the team lines up and I would imagine, you know, you've got Luke McCaffrey kind of...
46:08No, bro. You've got former first-round pick. Traylon Burks.
46:11Oh, they've got Traylon Burks there. Remember that touchdown?
46:14Oh, man. Touchdown was sick. Yeah, I agree with you, Andy.
46:18They don't have a lot of weapons, but Jaden Daniels is a weapon in his own right that can make up for a lot of that.
46:27But, I mean, will he... You could ignore all of the weapons and just say, look, anybody with the rushing floor of
46:34Jaden Daniels' ilk, I mean, this is going to be a guaranteed fantasy producing season.
46:39It's funny because, you know, you try to hope that he can comp to Lamar and develop into, you know, that level of a player.
46:48If he does, then you go, okay, well, who do they have?
46:52They've got Zay Flowers and an old Mark Andrews and, you know, some rookies coming in, and you don't really worry about it there.
47:00So, I think it comes down to, is Jaden going to be great?
47:05Last year, he went into the season in the third round.
47:08People were assuming, okay, this is that next superstar.
47:11Now he's a sixth-round pick. He's dropped a lot.
47:14Some of that, I'm sure, is the weapon. Some of that is probably the durability.
47:19The fact that we saw him get injured as an undersized mobile quarterback last year.
47:25But I'm fine taking a shot on a guy with the, you know, the total potential to go out there and rush for, you know, 800 yards.
47:34He was basically on pace to break all scrambling records.
47:37Yeah, he was not doing anything different running-wise last year in the games he was active.
47:42He just got hurt. And through the air was not as good.
47:47Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, you can explain it away with all the personnel.
47:51But statistically, completion percentage dropped 8%. Yards per attempt went down by .7.
47:56Touchdown percent was down almost a full point. We've seen this a couple times in a row where, you know, I've talked
48:03about it a little bit with the Patriots last year and their schedule.
48:08The schedule for rookie Jaden Daniels and the Commanders was a cakewalk schedule.
48:12And so last year it got harder. They only won five games with the injuries.
48:17I think their defense is not very good, which is good for fantasy.
48:21But I don't expect them to win a ton of games this year.
48:26At the running back position. Yeah, who are you taking a shot on?
48:30So, I mean, first you got to. I didn't think we'd be doing this whole dance again this year, to be honest with you.
48:38Yeah, I thought they would do more than add Rashad White.
48:42We thought Jeremiah Love might be going there. So, Bill, Ja'Kory Krosky, Merritt, it does start with him.
48:48You know, they're very close in ADP. I think they're very close in terms of who I would prefer to have on my team.
48:56This is very much a training camp. We need more news.
49:00On how they're handling things. Like Rashad White can come in and he can already do everything.
49:06He can, maybe it's not he does everything great.
49:09But he does everything perfectly acceptable for an NFL team.
49:12Where Bill is the one who has the juice.
49:15And everything they've kind of said about him in this offseason so far is the, when he doesn't have the ball, he has to be better.
49:24You know, like in pass protection, in the actual receiving game.
49:28If those, if it sounds like the coaching staff is going to become more confident in him and those things, I think
49:35there's a chance that Bill becomes just a true, like, he's on the field all the time.
49:41But this is, like I said, you need the news because it could be a nothing burger and it ends up completely being Rashad White.
49:50There are Chigakonkwo believers out there. I've been one before.
49:53Three years, $17 million deal arrives to be the tight end one.
49:57I'm sorry, Mike, but the tight end one on an offense that, like, financially.
50:02Zach Ertz was a big part. Way too big a part for you to handle of the Washington offense when he was catching passes here.
50:10We just talked about the absence of pass catchers in the wide receiver room.
50:15There's room. Let me just put it that way.
50:18There is room for Chigakonkwo to make his mark in this offense.
50:22Oh, gosh. You can acknowledge everything I said and still like Ben Sennett, just so you know.
50:28Yes. It's, look, Ben Sennett year one, five receptions.
50:31Year two, 11. Year three, 24. I'm just saying, at this rate, we're growing exponentially.
50:36I need somebody to talk about Chigakonkwo because that might matter.
50:40Look, Chigak is a very athletic tight end that we've seen have some breakaway plays.
50:45They need him desperately. They paid him. He will have the opportunities.
50:49They pass the ball. The trick is that they paid him desperately as well, which maybe is the case.
50:55They pass the ball a lot to Zach Ertz.
50:58I think that the opportunity will be there for him.
51:02Absolutely a sleeper. You know, he's basically an undrafted tight end that is, you know, it's like if you wanted, if you
51:09told me that one of him or Goddard was going to have a breakout, it's more likely that Chig breaks out.
51:16Yeah, because he could be the, you know, a high volume passing attack, number two target in the offense.
51:23There's really very little competition for that second target.
51:26And so, yeah, I would say Chigak has the opportunity to break out.
51:30I'm not betting on it like the biggest loser is.
51:34That's his guy. But, yeah, I mean, to me, I feel like the piece of this offense I want is Jaden Daniels.
51:41And I'm not very excited about most all the other pass catchers.
51:45We haven't even mentioned Terry McLaurin, but, you know, he's older.
51:49He was thriving on touchdowns a couple years ago.
51:52His ceiling is wide receiver what? Sealing? The ceiling's still solid.
51:56Wide receiver. Like seven? I don't think that high.
51:59I do. I think the ceiling is easily a top ten player.
52:03I'm realizing as we're doing all these teams from this entire division that all their tight ends might be the same player from a fantasy perspective.
52:11Like I can make an argument that Ferguson did it for a bunch of games.
52:17Goddard did it for a bunch of games. Chig has had big games.
52:21In fact, the last two years he's ended with like top six performances like multiple times in the last handful of weeks.
52:28He loves the end of the season. And then now we're going to talk about Isaiah Likely.
52:34So we're just in the same boat of there's a lot of these guys.
52:39I want my, I mean, they're starters. Yeah. The difference between like tight end four and tight end 24 is not that much.
52:47Not enough for you. All right. We'll take a break.
52:50We got one more team. You guys just got the inside scoop this weekend.
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53:44Well, the Giants went 4-13 last year. That was under the 5.5 win total projected for them.
53:50They were 1-7 in one score games. Did anyone hit their projections?
53:54They all hit. Like, go over? Yeah, they all hit their under.
53:58Yeah, that's kind of how it felt. There was a little bit of, like, all the teams had the air let out of them.
54:06Yeah. But 1-7 in one score games cost Brian D'Abel his job.
54:10There were games. Honestly, it was like, could you figure out how to lose this game?
54:15And if you gave me that opportunity to try, I would have still won.
54:20But he lost those games. There were some crazy games last year.
54:24Yeah, I forgot about all those. He lost nine straight games after week six.
54:29And in week six, they had beaten Philly on Thursday night.
54:33Oh, that was the game, right? Yeah. That was the dart scat game.
54:37Yeah. Remembering that, right? Oh, it was a blowout.
54:40Where they took over the TV at the end.
54:43And it was like, you came into work on Friday like, holy crap, guys.
54:48It's happening. And we didn't get a long enough run.
54:51No. Neighbors, we didn't get to see him. He ran 11 routes with Jackson Dart before he suffered a season-ending ACL that has turned into a difficult recovery.
55:01The recovery of Cam Scadaboo seems to have gone well.
55:04Yeah. He's doing flips. Because when he went down, that was like, that was a tough one to see, a tough one to watch.
55:12It's one of those visually, you know immediately what has happened to that player.
55:17And it's disturbing. And it was such an emotional gut punch for the fantasy football world.
55:23John Harbaugh takes over. Replaces Brian Dable. The New York Giants.
55:26Then Mike Kafka is gone. Replaced by Matt Nagy.
55:29Oh, boy. Do you think Matt Nagy might have sucked the energy out of that room?
55:35Is that what happened? The budget magician had already performed, and there was just not enough energy left in that press conference or that team meeting?
55:44It's very possible. I don't understand how these coaches keep getting jobs.
55:48You want him to be an assistant or something?
55:51I still wouldn't, but at least okay. You really look at his body of work, and you're like, yeah, that's our OC.
55:58It's funny because in the offseason, Cliff Kingsbury was the Giants OC for about a minute.
56:04He was like, oh, it seemed like that was a done deal.
56:08Mike, you were so excited about it because you were a big believer in Jackson Dark.
56:13That's fantasy points right there. Absolutely. And then it went from Cliff Kingsbury's high-speed offense, high-passing volume offense to Matt Nagy.
56:20I mean, this is a weird situation because they're projected to win seven and a half, which puts, I mean, that would
56:28put Harbaugh in the, you know, if he beats that by a game or two.
56:33That's like coach of the year candidate for a team that's in a tough division.
56:38But they lose their target leader. Wondell Robinson's gone.
56:41They won't have a healthy Malik neighbors at full force for a while.
56:45Their wide receiver room is a comedic. I'll tell you, Darius Slayton gets no respect.
56:50Well, sorry, Jason. I was speaking about Darnell Mooney, Juju Smith-Schuster, Odell Beckham Jr., Calvin Austin, and Braxton Berrios.
56:57A bunch of, we've been on a bunch of teams.
57:00We've been there, done that. We hope, I mean, are they hoping they combine to catch 22 passes?
57:06Yeah, I mean, that's embarrassing. I'm hoping that it is more Darius Slayton and Malachi Fields kind of out with the old and in with the new.
57:15And Isaiah Likely. And Isaiah Likely, and then quickly, hopefully, Malik neighbors.
57:19The weapons will be there eventually, but it is tough sledding.
57:23Without neighbors, it really seems like they don't have the passing weapons to make it easy on themselves.
57:29Now, they can rely on Cam Scadaboo. They've got a really good backfield.
57:34You know, having Tyrone Tracy as a backup behind Cam Scadaboo is...
57:38On Singletary back behind them. Yeah, exactly. It's a deep core.
57:41This team has a great defense. Their defense, I think, can really surprise.
57:46You bring in a coach like Harbaugh, and I think you're going to have a team that starts the season winning ballgames
57:53by running, running with Jackson Dart, running with Cam Scadaboo, and figuring that out offensively enough while they stay close in games.
58:01For fantasy, I don't think we're going to love this offense until neighbors show up.
58:06I just think there's a lot of risk. Like, I know you guys are big Jackson Dart fans, and I know the
58:13numbers of the running totals in his limited starts are very, very good.
58:18I'm more concerned. But I'm concerned that you can't have...
58:21We can't have two things here. I'm concerned you can't have the reckless abandon that leads to fantasy points combined with durability
58:29that leads to being on the field. Yeah. For both guys, in a way.
58:33For him and Scad. For Dart, some of his numbers, especially if you're talking his success as a no-huddle quarterback, he's a top five.
58:41Putting up top five numbers in those. Plays out of a huddle, very, very bad.
58:47And Dart was afforded a lot of no-huddle last year.
58:50And you bring in Matt Nagy. Matt Nagy does not do no-huddle.
58:54So it's like, will they allow him to use that superpower?
58:58And it's like, well, why does that work? Because Dart is a...
59:02He's an athletic playmaker. You know, he can get better.
59:05He was a first-round quarterback. He can improve. But it's like, he's...
59:09The superpower last year was the play is broken down.
59:13It's not just sitting in the pocket and picking people apart.
59:16We're going to go streetball on people. And it was working.
59:20I mean, aside from the injuries. And the... I do want to mention about Isaiah Likely.
59:25Jason and I, boots on the ground. There was an interview with Jackson Dart recently at the Fanatics Fest.
59:32Brought to you by the Fantasy Footballers. I thought Schefter did that.
59:36So did he. And we asked Dart, you know, we're trying to...
59:40We're fishing for the information. You're trying to get him to start naming some players.
59:45What's intentionally not listing any players' names. Like, who's first?
59:49The first and only player listed was Isaiah Likely.
59:52However, the way it was said was, you know, we got Isaiah Likely.
59:56It was like he... There was a big pause in between the two names.
60:01Like, he didn't fully know his name yet. So, I don't know.
60:05I think he was just trying to be clear.
60:08I saw that clip. Oh, you felt like it was a...
60:12I thought he was just trying to... He realized he needed to be...
60:16People didn't know who Isaiah was. I just needed to be clear for the audience.
60:21Perhaps. Perhaps that is what happened. I think he had Isaiah in mind right away.
60:26But it's still... Yeah, there's still question marks. He was...
60:30Jackson Dart was the 32nd-ranked quarterback when under pressure in completion percentage.
60:34You know, that's something that they're going to need to do better.
60:38Their middle-of-the-pack offensive line needs to protect him. We know we're going to see a lot of two tight end sets.
60:45Bellinger and Likely probably on the field together. He did have a great rapport with Bellinger.
60:50I think... You mean Theo? Oh, Theo. I'm so sorry.
60:54Yes. Theo Johnson. I think Bellinger's still on the team too.
60:57But yes, Theo last year. I liked that connection between them.
61:01Yeah, I did too. I think Likely is the more explosive, fun player and will probably produce more fantasy points.
61:08But both are weapons for Dart. Like if you want to make the case that he's got enough to start the year
61:15before Neighbors, to me it's Likely and Theo complementing those guys and them being smart enough to have both those...
61:22I mean, two tight end sets when Malik is hurt makes all the more sense than anything else.
61:28Run the ball with Cam and see if you can survive with that defense.
61:33But I'm just not sure what the ride's going to be like with Jackson Dart.
61:38And I feel bad because I feel like he's the fun, exciting, sexy player to like.
61:43And I just have doubts. 100% is. He was, I mean, purely fantasy speaking, he was awesome.
61:49Once he took over as the starter, if you were like, I'm going to ride this out.
61:55Whenever he plays, I'll play him. He really had like two...
61:59I mean, the dud in week 16. He had a game where he scored exactly zero.
62:04Minnesota will get you. And he played 100% of snaps.
62:07But other, I mean, 20 points, 25, 22, 26, 27, 28, like those are, those aren't just good weeks.
62:14That's the, that's, that's my quarterback was better than yours.
62:17So he's, he's extremely exciting. The ADP I think makes total sense.
62:21What I'm seeing right now for redraft quarterback nine, because he is a player.
62:26He could, to me, like Jackson Dart, if Malik gets back sooner than we're expecting, Dart can finish as a top five quarterback for fantasy football.
62:35He has all of this stuff. Well, he's got Beckham and he's got Juju and he's, no, I'm just kidding.
62:42He has, but he, like him, the player, he has the stuff that we need for fantasy football.
62:48If we can get him some weapons, then things will go well.
62:52So it's going to be a tough, interesting start.
62:55I should say Dallas in week one, but at home, then the Rams in Los Angeles in week two.
63:01So that is, if I'm Malik, I might sit that one out, but then Tennessee, Arizona, Washington, New Orleans.
63:08So let me ask you this real quick, Jason, because I've seen it asked like the mock draft, all this stuff.
63:15How do you approach Malik neighbors today? That's the last question I'm going to ask on the Giants.
63:21But how do you, you're going, let's say you're drafting in two weeks.
63:25Mm-hmm. I'll say 12 team. How are you going to approach him?
63:29Yeah. I am approaching Malik neighbors with two truths.
63:32One is that I think he starts the year on the pup.
63:37And so I won't have him for the first four or maybe even five weeks of the season.
63:43I also think that he's going to be a star fantasy option at the end of this year.
63:49If he gets to, you know, 85, 90% of what he is capable of doing.
63:54You saw Wandale Robinson at 185 pounds get just murdered by Jackson Dart because he kept throwing 14 targets.
64:0013. It was like that was the guy that he was throwing to.
64:05And it was really good. I think, you know, that was 140 targets to Wandale Robinson.
64:10When Dart has neighbors on that field, he is going to give him every opportunity to succeed.
64:16I think he'll be a monster at the end of the year.
64:20Do you think fantasy playoffs Malik neighbors will talk about him?
64:24Yes. I think fantasy playoffs neighbors should be. So what round are we talking?
64:28Yes. Is that a fifth round pick? Is that a fourth round pick?
64:33In the fourth round is when I have started really looking at him.
64:37When he's there in the fourth round. I think that's when the entire league is going to start getting a little sweaty.
64:45What about no IR spot? At that point. Yeah.
64:48I mean, that's with no IR spot. At that point, I'm looking at my team and saying, okay, can I survive basically not having a wide receiver here?
64:57Do I have, you know, if I feel like I've got a real stud running back, a hero running back approach, and
65:05I started with two other good wide receivers, I feel like I could take that shot at neighbors in the fourth.
65:12Well, I think we need to pick this division.
65:15And I've got my names written down. It's not an easy one.
65:19What do you guys think? Writing it down. You want me to read mine?
65:24I've got mine. I've got my first and last, but I don't have me and my other two.
65:30Look, I'm going to do something that I'm taking.
65:33We're probably the same. It's Dallas. Dallas is winning.
65:36And then I'm going Philly. Yep. And then I'm going the Giants.
65:40Oh, okay. And then I'm going Washington. I went Washington, New York.
65:44But I got Dallas winning. I've got Philly, Dallas, New York, and then the Commanders.
65:49Okay. Well, that'll do it for today's episode. Saturday show.
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