0:01Welcome to the Legendary Upside YouTube channel and podcast. My name is Pat Grain. Follow my content at legendaryupsside.com. With me today,
0:08Rich Rebar. We're talking through the week eight slate of games. Reeves, how's it going?
0:14>> It's going good, man. I just wanted to inform you, you know, since you moved away from the East Coast. Like, this is
0:18the first week like it got like it's cold in the mornings. My I'm I'm fighting my uh my nine-year-old because he still wants to wear shorts to school.
0:26like he hates pants, but like it's like 40° in the morning. Like, dude, we got to wear pants. So, yesterday I put him
0:32in pants and he comes home from school off the bus and he's walking in shorts.
0:37I'm like, "What the hell, man?" His This dude packed shorts in his book bag and put them on and he's got the school.
0:45What are we doing, man? But this is cold season, man.
0:48>> My my parents are visiting right now and I was we were walking. We took my daughter to her little preschool
0:55daycare. Um, and we're walking back and it was just like stunningly beautiful here. And uh, I was going to comment like, "Oh, you know, isn't it nice that
1:04it's" But I was like, "You know what?
1:05It's still probably pretty nice back east. It's it's it's you know, it's only October." But yeah, you're right. The weather turns. When it turns, it turns.
1:12But it's 70 and sunny here. So, uh, >> yeah, I'm jealous. [laughter] Yeah.
1:17>> Yeah. Um, that is one of the perks. the uh let's so we're gonna be talking through the 10 game slate. I feel like
1:25last week we went through and we were like, you know, I kind of like this game environment. I kind of like this game
1:29environment. I'm curious just kind of before we dig into game by game, your thoughts on the game environments this week. Is my I mean I mean you know you
1:39just look at the spreads it's like this team's favored by seven, this team's favored by seven, this team's favor by 14 and a half, you know. So, it seems
1:47like maybe the game environments are a little bit shakier this week, but there's lots of teams that look kind of interestingly set up. I Are you viewing
1:55that similarly or are there game environments you're more into?
1:58>> Yeah, 100%. I mean, we've got the one game under a field goal and it's Houston 49ers with like the 40point total
2:05>> and then so I I am I've talked about this before like I am someone that's more like a small field single entry
2:11player. I like to stack games up to try to get the games right.
2:15>> This week I probably will will mute my play to a degree in that and probably just play more large field uh team
2:22environment stuff like team stack stuff.
2:23So I think just calibrate to the slate a little bit. But that's my initial thought is I actually do um on the
2:29website I I like share my player pool and the games I'm I'm onslotting as well and this week I only have three games in
2:35the in the actual >> games. That makes sense. Yeah, it's it's tough. It's tough to onslaught. Um the the first game that I wanted to touch
2:47on, well, let's let's mix it up. What?
2:49So, we'll get to the Giants Eagles in a second. Um I had the cover boy in the walkthrough was from the Giants Eagles,
2:55but let's talk Bears Ravens to start because I assume that's one of the games >> that you're interested in kind of
3:00onslaught. Yeah. So, talk to me about about where you're at on that game.
3:04Yeah, I mean this is a game that I'm treating as kind of a fresh start for the Baltimore Ravens on both sides of
3:10the ball to be honest. I mean they've got so many guys that were injured before their by-week and they're getting so many guys back that even the
3:18defensive stuff I think adds a lot of wrinkles into this matchup. You know, we saw right before the buy they got Kyle
3:24Hamilton and Marlon Humphrey back.
3:26They're going to get Rocoan Smith and Shidobia Woo back. They're never getting Mabuk back. So like that's just a huge loss
3:31>> which is a big loss for them.
3:32>> Yeah. They're that's just never gonna be something that they solve probably and could be a problem. And then on offense,
3:39obviously, they're getting the big piece. Lamar looks like he's gonna be back. He was a full practice today. I know that they saw said today that it's
3:45up to Lamar uh tomorrow to see how he responds basically. But if he can go, then he's going to go. They going to get
3:51Ronnie Stanley back at left tackle. And then low-key, like we don't really give him a lot of love, but they're getting
3:57Patrick Cart back, too, which is a significant factor for this offense, who hasn't played all season this year. Uh, so we're probably going to see a lot
4:04more 21 personnel, a lot more 22 personnel, uh, from the Baltimore Ravens. I mean, last year with Ricard on the field, Derrick Henry ran for over
4:13six yards per carry. Uh, so it's it's a big deal getting him back as well. So, I feel like we're going to see at least
4:19offensively the kind of true version of the Baltimore Ravens offense. Probably with reduced Lamar rushing. I would assume he's not going to run around like real
4:29aggressively off the hamstring injury.
4:31And then defensively, I'm at least like waiting to be seen. Like I'd even put a lot of uh Baltimore Ravens defensive
4:38metrics in the worksheet this week because I don't know how true any of them are.
4:43>> Yeah.
4:43>> Like moving forward. Like I don't just know how applicable they are.
4:47I think that the stuff around the the pass rush is is true. Like I I think that Matabk not being there I think
4:55they're down Broadarch Washington too, right?
4:58>> Um so the pass rush stuff does seem like what we can count on. I think secondarywise they're in much better
5:06shape, but one of the things that jumped out to me is that, okay, you've got a Ravens team that is not they're blitzing
5:14and they're still not generating pressure. Um, and they just have a really bad pass rush now without Mavique. And then Caleb Williams has a
5:233.23 second time to throw, which is the slowest in the NFL, an NFL that includes Justin Fields. And so I'm like that that
5:33to me is a matchup element that I think we can count on where you need like I really think with Caleb Williams I'm
5:40kind of treating him a little fieldsy like give me matchups where he can have a bunch of time to throw and then we
5:49have ceiling now he kind of like Fields can flop in matchups kind of like Knicks too like these guys the really low
5:56success rates like they can >> they can still burn you even in good spots, but there is ceiling. It's worth chasing. Um, especially if other people
6:03aren't going to be on it. And I like a Dunce a lot here. That's I mean, if you look at the way he's being used, he has
6:10a 14.2 AOT. Uh, he's 81st percentile in open score. He's got a 25% target share, 22% targets per out run. So, he's this
6:21clear downfield threat, but also the clear number one wide receiver. He's been really good against man. The Ravens are playing man 36% uh of the time,
6:30which is fourth highest in the NFL. And he's been the go-to guy when they've had time to throw. This is like very small
6:37sample, but I enjoyed it. Uh 22 routes with uh where Caleb Williams has had over two and a half seconds to throw
6:44against man coverage. And in that sample, a Dunay has a 46% targets per out run, a 17.3 AOT, and 5.14 yards per
6:52route run. you know, only but it's like one of those things where it's like you you're talking like a matchup that could
6:57help dial up like one or two extra deep shots. Great. You know, like and and then the overall stuff is like this is a
7:05good game environment um where both teams should be able to push each other.
7:09This is not a good defense. They will have regardless of the coverage he's there should be time to throw here.
7:14Regardless of the time to throw, Odun is the clear number one. So, I I think Odun's um it doesn't look like he's
7:21going to be super popular and a guy that I've been surprised hasn't been projected better, which I I kind of understand cuz he's had two quiet games,
7:27but even in the last two weeks, 17% targets per hour against the Commanders, 22% against the Saints, he had a 21.4
7:33AOT against the Commanders, uh 14.3 against the Saints. So, the same deep usage, doesn't connect, turns in really weak yards per out numbers, 1.07, 1.15.
7:43But he was crushing earlier in the season with a similar role like when he he went off against the Lions 18.3 dot
7:4918.3 ADOT 3.12 yards per hour run. So it's going to be a little bit of a boom bust role. It's a boom bust quarterback.
7:56>> Yes.
7:56>> But um as we talked about there's not that many game environments that really jump out. This is one of them. And I
8:02think you could you play Lamar stuff with the Dunes bringbacks. You know you don't have to stack it with Williams but
8:07I think you certainly can. And uh with KD out Carlson Lovelin I think is in play too. So there there's potential
8:13doubles with the Williams side and maybe you bring back a Flowers or a Henry. So this game there's there's lots of ways
8:18to to play it in DFS or or draft games.
8:23>> Yeah. I mean, uh, you look at Dunay, I think he got that big salary bump after every, you know, the the first two
8:30weeks, uh, the weeks two and three, you know, uh, we we played him in week two and then week three kind of everyone
8:35went to him and I'm I'm I'm convinced that both I don't know exactly how the algorithm goes for the salary setting,
8:41but I'm I'm convinced like previous week ownership is part of it. Like >> Oh, it is. I don't know that for a fact,
8:47I guess, but I'm that's what I think.
8:49>> So like he was like heavily >> Yeah. Like remember uh we talked about playing against the Lions in week two.
8:55He he goes off and not that we like dictated this like he just hit and then you know gamers when a guy hits like
9:00they're like well I want to go back to that guy. Uh and he was really popular and kind of just like he he he I think
9:06it was the Raider was that the Raiders game they played next or was the Cowboys game right?
9:10>> Cowboys he had a touchdown. Um, so he didn't like flop, he had a touchdown in the Raiders game. Like he had a had a
9:17touchdown, but like the yardage was down and like people kept playing him and then you know his he people kept going
9:22back to him and then he started not to score touchdowns and you saw some of the the floor that came along with Caleb
9:28because >> Caleb is still the number one quarterback or not number one dead last I should say. He has the highest in
9:34accurate throw rate still off target throw rate. He is the worst quarterback in terms of completion percentage versus uh expected completion percentage. The
9:44difference and that's gone directly to a dunus 10% CPOE. It's pretty bad. Yeah.
9:50>> And you'd expect a guy like a dunes day to be hurt by that because of where he draws his targets, right? Like he's not
9:54getting a lot of these screens and like free squares that like come with a high success rate. So the past four weeks,
10:0026.9% of his targets have been inaccurate throws. Uh and that's what's really hurt him. And then you saw some uh stuff this week people have been
10:08citing like out of the buy the first three target share stuff for a doomsday.
10:11I'm not so necessarily worried about that because the Ravens could push the Bears into like a different style of offense than what they've run out of the
10:19buy where Ben Johnson is actually called more Ben Johnson type of offense. More under center play action pre- snap motion >> and he's trying to hide Caleb a little
10:28bit I think uh because you know he's now had a month sample of like wow like he's still making these mistakes let me try
10:35to work around this and insulate him which is what he should do. I think he's trying to hide Caleb a little, but I
10:39also think he's doing like, you know, he tried to hide golf a little too. Like he's doing the Ben Johnson stuff where
10:45their their play actions up, their motions up, they're running more effectively. Like I think this was always kind of the plan. I think he even
10:52had a quote that like they were simplifying some stuff before and they're not simplifying it now that they're kind of they're using all the
10:59you know the types of motion and stuff that he you know this is like the full experience now.
11:04>> Yeah. Yeah. And he's always what's crazy is Williams has been bad worse with that stuff when it's kind of a cheat code for
11:09everyone else. I don't know what this means for Caleb Williams, but [laughter] >> I think I'm I have an inkling.
11:16>> Yeah.
11:17>> But [laughter] on on plays at Motion, he averages two two and two yards less per pass attempt, which is like unheard of
11:24like for quarterbacks. Like these are supposed to be cheat codes for guys. Uh like you said, I think he's more comfortable though like not in the in
11:30rhythm stuff. like he wants to hold. He definitely is >> like he wants to hold the ball. He wants to extend plays.
11:36>> He turns stuff down. Like he he's looking for bigger plays. I But I think >> okay, you know, it's not ideal. Like
11:44that's a flaw, but this is a spot where I think you can >> take advantage of that. Like >> in some ways, like that's good for this
11:51matchup where I think the Ravens like the secondary is actually okay now, but the their ability to pressure is is the
11:56problem. So, like take your time, you know, like being able to look >> to me it comes down to the run defense,
12:03right?
12:03>> Like cuz if the Bears are able to come out and do what they've done these past two weeks in the run game, then that
12:10allows them to play that style of game.
12:12But if like we get like the Ravens get the ball first, they go down and score, Bears have a they get they get a stop,
12:19Bears have to punt, we get RA, then we're now we're now we're forcing the Ben Johnson to come out of this stuff
12:25that worked. Maybe they've had they've peaked at a 68% pass rate this year, which was uh right in line with expectations.
12:35Um their their next highest expected pass rate was only 67%.
12:40>> Poe there. Against the Lions, they had a 65% expected and pass 64% of the time.
12:46>> Um >> cuz that's what we're looking for cuz since the since the Lions game, they've just been in control. They've kind of
12:52just been in control game. So like or like hanging around. Uh because the Commanders game was a little bit more back and forth. Uh
12:58>> I mean I think if they have like a 72% expected pass rate, they probably abandon the run. But I think the Ravens
13:03really got to put it on him. Like this could be this could be a shootout like kind of like the uh the Packers and the
13:09Cowboys when they went, you know, 4040 tie. Um neither team like really got pass heavy. They both scored a bunch of
13:18points, but you know, the expected pass rates weren't out of control and that the pass rates weren't out of control. I
13:22think we could, you know, especially if the Ravens play things through Henry um and play things a little bit balanced, which they probably will with Lamar
13:30still not fully being cleared yet back, >> right? And Ricard back uh and the and the Bears not being that great against
13:38the run.
13:39>> The Ravens have not been good against the run. Again, they're healthier in the back end more than they are up front.
13:45So, uh I'm not sure how good that, you know, these numbers are. Maybe the numbers underrate them as a run defense,
13:52but I don't think by like a ton. So, I'm kind of intrigued by the Bears. I I'm just like weirdly into the Bears this
13:59week, honestly. Like I I doesn't feel great. But I >> DeAndre Swift, if you told me that he was going to have, you know, 55% of the
14:08carries here for sure, I'd be into it.
14:10Um my concern is that Manunga had 33% of the carries last week. Uh Swift was down to 48%.
14:17>> And so I'm really dependent Yeah, and I I need efficiency on Swift. So, he's he's a little concerning to me for that
14:24reason, but I think the Bears will run the ball well here.
14:26>> Yeah, he's been a little nicked up. Last week he had like a calf like through the week and then this week he's had a groin
14:31and missed a little bit of time as well.
14:34Um Bears are big outside zone run team.
14:37Ravens actually as bad as they have been in bulk like have played outside zone really well this year.
14:42>> Okay.
14:43>> Um they're they're eighth uh in yards per carry out to running backs on those.
14:47It might not matter. I mean, the Bears might have just found the secret sauce, though, like through the buy and and
14:51adjustments. That's why I think this is fun just it's fun to see like kind of what what's sticky uh for them. And if
14:56they get pushed into a game state, what where they're chasing points, what how do they calibrate? What's the adjustment? Because we really haven't
15:02seen it for a month uh from them. Uh since that uh >> one thing I will say with the we we
15:10haven't seen it yet, so we really don't know what they look like. And I am noticing that the Lions when they get
15:15pushed into negative game script are way more stubborn than they used to be um in terms of like still running the ball
15:23like like suboptimally.
15:24>> And and I've always been impressed with the Lions not doing that. And so maybe that was a Ben Johnson thing. Maybe, you
15:32know, the reason that they were willing to just chuck it when they fell behind, like there's that one game where the
15:38Ravens just like put it on the Lions, like scored like 28 points in the first half or whatever, and the Lions are just
15:44like, "All right, like we're about to lose. This is about to get embarrassing, but we're going to try to win this
15:50game." And so I I it it's a good point that maybe we haven't seen. There's a version of the Bears we just haven't
15:57seen yet where they just they just chuck it non-stop because they fall behind early. Um, which would be kind of interesting. And I mean, I know that
16:04would maybe not be good for Caleb, but it would potentially be very good for Adun and Loveland.
16:10DJ Moore I have trouble getting excited about, but >> yeah. Yeah, >> it's hard. It's very hard. Yeah, Lovelin being up this week uh with if I didn't
16:18see too officially Cole Cole was out, but it looked like he was trending towards it.
16:22>> Yeah, I'm assuming he's out.
16:24>> So, I mean, you get him at at just like a really cheap cost. uh this week in general, tight end is going to be
16:29probably the most wide open it's ever going to be. And we talked about last week doing Trey McBride plus one of the
16:34punts and that ended up winning the Millie. Uh I played a little bit of it too. I just had the wrong guy. I had
16:39some Gatsson, too. Uh but not I had no Herbert. Um and that game everyone in the game except Denver Broncos defense
16:49>> was from that game, but I didn't have Gadston.
16:52Ah, yeah. Yeah, the Millie Millie winner had McBride and Gadston.
16:56>> Wow.
16:57>> And uh this week though, it's kind of wide open. The two expensive guy, well, the the expensive guys on the slate and
17:02I think Goddard's going to get in the mix now uh potentially with AJ Brown being out. Uh you know, Ferguson's price
17:08has gone way up and he still kind of has this usage that feels like it's fragile like to pay top dollar for, but uh we'll
17:16get to that game. And then you have KD in like a matchup that's not good, but like probably has some flop lag of like
17:21Kyle Shanahan didn't get him a catch last week for the first time. Yeah. So, probably has something dialed up for him
17:26uh this week. But then it's like wide open. Like you're going to see we're going to see a lot of Daltton Schultz.
17:30We're probably going to see uh Loveland.
17:32Um a lot of cheap dudes, a lot of it's a big pay down tight end week because gamers want to jam in the two hammers at
17:39running back and Jamar Chase now. So, it's probably be cheap tight end stuff.
17:45Well, Isaiah likely is 2,600 and it's coming off 85% route participation. Now, to your point on Ricard maybe that cuz they were cuz
17:55Andrews was at 73%. So, they were in 12 a ton.
17:59>> Um, and this was before the buy, but you know, that's a lot of routes, man. And he I know he hasn't been targeted like
18:07at all. He's peaked at a 9% target per >> Yeah. Right. Right. So, I don't know. I mean, we we we saw likely that, you
18:18know, they were excited about him. They almost signed him and then he got hurt like right as he was about to sign his
18:22contract. So, 2600 for a a tight end in a game environment that we really like. I >> I think with Lamar or maybe as a bring
18:32back on Caleb stuff, I I think he's kind of in play.
18:35>> Yeah, he's got some touchdown equity. Um we've seen it before usage usage in the Reds on both guys. Honestly, you just
18:42get get a guess who's going to score touchdowns, but I don't have a problem with anyone punting with either of those
18:47guys. Not Not that Andrews is a punt, but uh plugging one of those guys in. I I think this slate's wide open though
18:53for tight end, so like if you want to punt with likely and even if he doesn't hit, I don't know if it if it kills you.
18:58>> I'm not sure it does. I mean, the chalk is going to be Daltton Schultz. So, yes, you know, you could maybe survive. You
19:06get five points out of likely. It might be fine. Um, >> right, right, right, right.
19:11>> So, on the on the Ravens side, you know, you have Lamar was absolutely cooking through the first three games, falls
19:18apart against the Chiefs, right? He was 26th percentile on EPA per play in that game is doesn't play. We think maybe
19:24it's just like, oh, they're they're pulling him, it's over, but he's actually hurt, misses a bunch of time, comes back that I saw, you know, the
19:32report he got in a full practice, but then they also said, if he can't go, Snoop Huntley will start. So, like I'm
19:37like, "Oh, there's still some risk he's not playing." So, I guess he's clearly not like fully 100%, but obviously the season's on the line. They need him.
19:44He's going to play.
19:46>> That doesn't give you a ton of confidence though in like going to Lamar for DFS if he's not fully right. But
19:53obviously, the ceiling is always really high with Lamar. They get a Bears team that hasn't had a good pass rush. Um,
20:01>> he can still get there as a passer.
20:03That's why like if this was Lamar like four years ago, I think I'd be a lot more scared if like we just had to have
20:08a drop back Lamar game.
20:10>> But Lamar with Monin against this defense, I think can still get there as a passer.
20:16>> And they play a ton of man and Flowers is cooked against man. So it the stack I mean is so easy. You know, obviously you
20:23got to throw in likely for the double, but but you know, Flowers Lamar um is pretty pretty strong single stack. Um,
20:31but then the other way to play it is to play Henry, which I think, you know, this is a week where Henry is not going
20:36to be very popular, has a always has a high ceiling and people are paying up like a lot for uh, you know, for
20:45Jonathan Taylor's 9500 and and is a great play. Like I'm not saying he's not, but he's going to be chalk >> chalk at 9500. So
20:52>> they're both 10k on FanDuel over Yeah.
20:56Like you it's you can on DraftKings.
20:59I've built a couple items with both just to see what they look like or like what you could play with. FanDuel, it's like
21:03almost impossible to play both of them.
21:07Like it's it's very ugly because on because you know on DraftKings you can make some punts at receiver and PPR your
21:13way to like good scores where you don't have that out on FanDuel.
21:17>> Yeah.
21:17>> Like like Jay Jay and Null on FanDuel.
21:22>> Yeah. When you say both, do you mean Taylor and Bejon?
21:25>> Yes. Yeah. Sorry.
21:26>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
21:27>> Yeah. It's because they're both over 10K and it's like because like you know those punt plays at receiver like aren't
21:32as good on on fan. It's not as optimal on FanDuel because you don't get the full catch points.
21:37>> Right. Right.
21:40But yeah, I I mean, yeah, Henry Henry stands out to me a lot uh this week. And I'm not ready to believe the Bears are a
21:47good run defense either coming out of the buy because even the Commanders, who they stopped >> in week uh six couldn't run on the
21:55Cowboys last week. So, it's like, man, how real is this? Uh and then the Saints just are unfunctional. Like, right, like
22:03they they functionally can't run with Alvin Kamar. They lose Kendry Miller and they lose Eric McCoy in that game and Eric McCoy last year when he came off
22:11the field was a disa like their run game was a disaster when they lost him last year. So I'm not ready to say like this
22:16the Bears run defense has turned the corner either just uh with these two games out of the buy. This will be a
22:21great test to find that out.
22:24>> Yeah. No, they will be tested. But I think this is like one of those games where I think I want to I want to have
22:31probably multiple ways that I've played this game >> um over the course I usually I've been playing six lineups for the last four or
22:38five weeks and I'll I would like to have like two lineups with this game at least played different ways because I I think
22:46it's a good game environment. I can see it going a few different ways and we don't know like there's uncertainty here
22:52about like >> who these teams are right now which is good you know the field is the field's not going to know and we don't no one
22:59knows like truly no one knows but there's upside for Flowers there's upside for Dunes there's upside for Henry >> there's upside for both quarterbacks
23:06>> um so yeah this is a fun one >> yep >> let's let's go to the Giants uh at Eagles Giants have an applied team total of 18
23:16And uh the Eagles >> and he was 16 last week.
23:20>> Yeah, that's true. [laughter] And and we and I was like, "Ah, this game environment sucks." And you know what? I
23:25was right. Turn off the game after three quarters. And I was right. It's just that fourth quarter changed everything.
23:32Um the Eagles 25 and a half implied team total. So, you know, the Giants embarrass the Eagles on national television and uh then two weeks later
23:43they come to Philadelphia and they're pretty big dogs while the Eagles get back Jaylen Carter who didn't play in that game and Quinan Mitchell who was
23:52injured in that game. So, this sets up like as kind of, you know, a revenge game for the Eagles. Of course, it is
23:58another revenge game opportunity for Saquon Barkley. This his fourth revenge game uh since leaving the Giants, but still. And you have Jaylen Herz came
24:07alive last week against the Vikings when I another thing I was wrong about last week. I thought Herz would be in trouble
24:12against the the Vikings blitz. He had a really low success rate, but doesn't matter if you hit big plays downfield, which he did. So, you know, the the
24:23passing game's coming alive a little bit. Meanwhile, the Giants defense uh don't have the final injury report, but Brian Burns, Pulson Adibbo at
24:33cornerback, and Javon Holland at safety all missed practice on both Wednesday and Thursday. So, I mean, Burns turning out >> Ado Ado and Holland missed practice
24:43today. They're expecting them both to be out and Burns practiced today.
24:47>> Okay. Okay. Yeah, him he would he would be the biggest, but um still two guys in the secondary. uh being out would would
24:56be pretty bad. So now the problem is that the Eagles probably don't have AJ Brown who hasn't practiced all week.
25:02They haven't ruled out yet, but they have a buy in week nine. I I'm assuming he's gone. But from a DFS perspective,
25:08now we have Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard, and Herz is a potential doubles there, which is pretty interesting. But I I flag Saquon Barkley here where the
25:19Giants run defense is bad. He's a big home favorite.
25:26His best rush yards over expected of the entire season was against the Giants, but he only had 12 carries because the
25:33Eagles were trailing throughout that game and, you know, were were forced to abandon the run. They're unlikely to be forced to abandon the run this week. You
25:44know, in part when you look at the the line, but also when you look at their defense just being a lot healthier. Um,
25:51so I don't know, man. I I know it's been rough for for Barkley, but he is it's like him and Henry are the two really
25:58high upside backs that allow you to maybe beat, you know, like how do I beat Bean and Taylor? You need them to only
26:07score one touchdown. Um, yeah, but that's possible.
26:10>> It is.
26:10>> And and then and then you have these guys go off where you and you've saved a little salary and >> you got off the chalk. these guys are
26:18going to be less popular by pretty big margin than the top two running backs.
26:22So, these are the pivots that really jump out to me this week, Henry and Barkley. I made Barkley the cover boy
26:27because it's kind of like if this if he can't do it here, then I don't know that, you know, 2025 is just kind of a
26:34lost season. like this. This is a really really like I I talked last week about oh, they're going to have to pivot to
26:38the to the run against the against the Vikings and maybe that helps Barkley get going. But Brian Flores stacked the box
26:47on Barkley. He had a 50% stack box rate last week. He took Barkley away. He said, "You can't beat me deep." Which
26:54was turned out not to be true. But uh that's the way he played it. And the the Giants didn't play it like that two
27:00weeks ago. they they only stacked the box 25% of the time against Barkley and he was efficient. So, um and you know
27:07with the Eagles passing game coming to life a little bit I think and and the Giants out multiple guys in the
27:12secondary now I I don't think they can make that dare. I don't think the Giants are in a position to say, "Okay, beat us
27:18deep." Because they they know they will.
27:20So, yeah, I think this is a it's a risky spot. Um it doesn't feel comfy, but I think Barkley could go nuts. Yeah,
27:28especially when you watch Kamani Vidal run all over the Vikings last night.
27:32You're like, "Oh, thanks."
27:34We talked last week about playing Saquon. It's like, "Yeah, you know, look at the Vikings. They haven't stopped any. Look at all these people." And
27:39then, you know, uh to me, he's still like he doesn't There's nothing physically when I watch Saquon Barkley where I'm like, "Oh, this dude looks bad
27:48like or he looks washed." Uh he even had two nice >> line's not as dominant.
27:52>> Well, that's what it is. And you know what's funny is you have that narrative in place too because I don't know if you
27:57saw like Jordan Milada talked about like uh the first game between these teams.
28:00He played really bad and he said like he's like he's like on a mission this week. He's like talked about like that
28:05was like my career. Uh I'm I'm out here to like he hasn't played good this year either. So we probably want Cam Jurgens
28:13on the inside. It feels like one of these Eagles interior uh offensive line is out. Like they just can't get all
28:18these guys on the field together. But, you know, uh I'm with you on like the the game script. Barkley opened that
28:24game, the first two carries that game, he had he had 18 yard run and a 13 yard run and then had 10 carries or 27 yards
28:31the rest of the way. Um it's just one of those things. It's been an inefficient run game. But when I said when I watch
28:37him, I don't see anything physically wrong with him, at least me. And that's just, you know, people may disagree.
28:43That's subjective. But we had two running backs entering last week who also like had really poor metrics running the football and exploded last
28:53week. The first one was Christian McAffrey. Uh and then the second one was looked really good >> and Jir Gibbs was the second guy like
29:00but when you were watching like maybe McAffrey people were like oh he's lost a step. Gibbs like when I was watching I
29:05was like it still looks fine. He's just not having any production. It's going to happen eventually and then he freaking has a 90 yard touchdown run. Yeah. It's
29:11like like I when I watch Saquon still and people be like this is cope. It's pure copium. I get it. But like when I
29:16watch Saquon though I'm like it's not I don't think it's a Saquon problem. So we're just looking for one game to kind
29:23of flip this and turn it around this.
29:25>> No. And what I mean the way he was he was just like hitting these really long runs and it was like crazy last year.
29:31It's like this isn't sustainable. This is isn't sustainable. And then it was sustainable for 2024 and then 2025 was just the regression year I guess. But
29:39it's, you know, he's been he was exploding for game, you know, where it's not, I don't know. He was so
29:49consistently doing it last year that it felt like he was inevitable, but what he was actually doing was, you know, within
29:57the game, ripping off these long runs.
30:00So, it wasn't like he was he was not Josh Jacobsing his way, you know, to to a league winning season last year. It's
30:07just like kind of like >> chunk gain, chunk gain, chunk gain.
30:10There was some of that, but you know, a lot of it was these these longer runs.
30:14And >> I think he can he can recapture that this week. You know, this is going to seem really gross, but like isn't it
30:24kind of the Quinchan Judkinsesque play from they're paying more for it, but like this dude's at home, big favorite.
30:32They're going to lean on him like that.
30:34and and Judkins was was big-time chalk last week. Cheaper, >> but goes nuts and, you know, gets in the end zone what, three times. So, you
30:44know, >> yeah, I mean, you don't you just need the touchdowns basically. You don't even need Saquon to go cra like he doesn't
30:49need to have the 60 yard touchdowns. All you care about is the touches and the touchdowns >> really, >> right? Like,
30:56>> so yeah, I mean >> Judkins was terrible last week.
31:00>> Well, at the goal line, he was pretty sweet.
31:02>> Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. Then I mean listen he had that that the 46 yard was was hot too but like objectively if you just
31:09looked at his metrics though from last week you be like oh my god this guy was awful. [laughter] >> Yeah. I mean he's
31:17look so it's this like I guess what I'm saying is if you zoom out and you just think like things we know create running
31:24back spike weeks you know. Yes.
31:26>> Big favorite at home >> would would be one of the good offensive line bad run defense. So, I just, you
31:31know, let's let's kind of remove the expectations from our mind a little bit heading into the season. Last year's maybe last year's too much to hope for,
31:39but this is just like kind of a classic good spot for a running back. And um you know, additional addition to the uh the
31:47rushing matchup stuff. I I think the Eagles will move the ball just fine through the air here. So, I I like I
31:53like Herz stacks, too. Like, if if you don't have Barkley, I think Herz doubles with AJ Brown. A lot of people just just
31:59fast forward to that part. [laughter] These guys are talking about Saquon again. This copia just >> I hated Seaquan last year. I'm not I'm
32:09not a big Squan guy.
32:11>> No, no, I just Listen, it's like I said, this is why it's called the worksheet and the walkthrough. It's like it's the
32:15same thing. You're showing the work.
32:16You're walking through things. Um and this is our first rematch of the year.
32:20We have two of them actually this week, but like you're curious to see like the calibration from like the first game
32:25from the second game. This one has moving pieces because of the players that are going to be available and unavailable compared to the first
32:31matchup. But I mean that first matchup the the Giants were very manheavy. They didn't blitz Jaylen Herz at all. Like are they going to feel like they have to
32:39do something like the Ravens? Like we talked about the Ravens a minute ago.
32:41Like does like the Ravens and their Zachary Zack Ore like was because of the state of their secondary was trying to
32:47manufacture a pass rush and do stuff like that. Do we think the Giants have to try to try to do anything like that?
32:53Does that happen? the same flip side like Vic Vangio called the most anti- Vicio game ever when these teams played on Thursday night and I don't know if
33:01it's because the large uh the pieces are but like they blitzed Dart 46% of the time is their highest blitz rate of the
33:07season. Their next closest was 28.9%.
33:10They played man coverage on over 50% of the snaps against Dart. Their next closest was 34%. Like these are all things I just don't think are going to
33:17happen again. you know, getting Quin Mitchell back and, you know, having Jayl and Carter back stop the run better because Scatterabo ran down their
33:24throats in the first game. I don't know if that happens uh in this rematch as well, but it's always fun when you have
33:30these kind of divisional rematches and you get to see kind of the doover uh in these spots uh and what we're expecting.
33:37Sometimes people will just box score chase, right, uh from the first game.
33:40They'll be like, "Well, I'm just going to jam in GD. I'm going to jam in Scataboo because those are the dudes
33:44that hit in the first matchup, right?"
33:46like everything everything's shifting though and everything's moving.
33:50>> Yeah, the Giant side I'm not that into in this game. Um even though you know obviously they they crushed the Eagles
33:56the last time but Scataboo was down to 50% carry share last week which was kind of where around where he's been the last
34:04three weeks but um Tracy Tracy's carries ticked up to 28%.
34:11>> How many yards would you have gotten on the Tracy touchdown? Like do you think you could have gotten >> I'm not picturing it with just it's just
34:18a huge hole.
34:19>> Don't you? Yeah. He even when he got to the second level like did this like he looked around like [laughter] like he's
34:26like there's like no one near him. I think I think I would have got I think we're realistically on that run I would
34:31have gotten like 13 yards and I got like >> 13 yards.
34:39>> You're throwing footballs last week.
34:40You're going to be doing run. You're going to run. It was It was funny though cuz like he got past the line of
34:44scrimmage and like you never see like the He like looked around. Oh, nobody there's nobody by me. Like oh nobody's here.
34:53>> Oh man. 13 yard. You're just going to get tackled down from behind.
34:57>> Yeah. Yeah.
34:59>> You'd be looking around and someone would be there.
35:01>> I I'd have to just go down. I pop the wheel. [snorts] >> You just slide.
35:08>> I went back and played uh USFPL. Uh two years ago we played 35 and older. We actually won nationals in Florida, but I
35:16I had lost weight and stuff and uh I my buddy's like, "You want to come back?"
35:19I'm like, "We'll go to nationals." And uh dude, you just don't get faster when you get older.
35:23>> No, you just don't. Speed speed never comes back. [laughter] >> It's a good lesson.
35:29>> Yeah. I told my son that was it for me, man. It was like It was like uh Bill Murray in Space Jam at the end. I said,
35:34"We're out of here." Like that was it.
35:36No need to do this again.
35:40>> Yeah. I don't want to I don't want to I don't even want to know what the four because if you don't know you don't know
35:44you know >> but if you if you know >> but yeah with and then you know getting Jaylen Carter back uh with Jaylen Carter
35:50on the field Eagles are allowing 3.7 yards per carry to running backs 1.02 02 yards before contact on those runs. With
35:59him off the field, 4.9 yards per carry to running backs, 2.15 yards before contact. Significant difference.
36:07>> Good pass rusher, too. So, I mean, he's just a he's an important part and just wasn't there. Like, he he just didn't
36:13play last time and and has been back for a couple weeks or he was back last week, so this will be a second game. I'm not
36:19playing Dart, but Dart has like I always kind of comp Dart to Drake May for rookie year and like he has just that
36:24gene. Like he finds a way to fantasy points somehow. It's never like always great. You never look at the box scores
36:30with Jackson Dart. He's just gonna He finds a way though to get there.
36:34>> Yeah, because he takes too much too many hits like May. They both are taking way too many hits. Please stop getting hit,
36:40guys.
36:41>> We We like you. You have long careers.
36:44>> Please. Please.
36:45>> Yeah. But uh No, Dart. I yeah, I mean I I wrote up Wel Robinson as, you know, being kind of clearly the guy here. Um
36:57Theo Johnson ran a bunch of routes.
36:59That's that's somewhat interesting. But >> not a ton of interest for me on the uh the Giants side. It's more it's more
37:05about the Eagles kind of looking much better than they did the last time these teams played is how I'm I'm approaching.
37:11>> And Devonte Smith has already been hot.
37:13I mean, he he has three wide he has three wide receiver one scoring games uh over the past five and one of them was
37:20this first matchup when he probably should have had their he had the 89 yarder that it was wide open and Herz
37:26overthrew him. So we have no AJ Brown and Noah Debo. I mean big time spot for Devonte Smith. Since they acquired AJ
37:35Brown, he has run 207 routes with AJ Brown off the field. So pretty good sample. Like sometimes when we have these splits, you're like, "Oh, it's
37:44like a one game worth or something." We had 207 route sample and on those plays, he's been targeted on uh 28 and a half%
37:50of his routes, 2.51 yards per route run.
37:54So like firmly in wide receiver, one usage and play for Devonte Smith.
38:00>> Love it.
38:01>> Good player, too. People forget like how dominant he was in college, like just because he plays Brown. Like >> elite player. Like this is a front end
38:09wide receiver player. for sure. Um they also forget because the Eagles just don't pass.
38:16>> Yeah. Well, that's the trouble like you know Dagel initially when we pitched this like talking about triples. I'm like dude you can't ever do triples with
38:22these guys. They just don't have the pass value, >> right?
38:24>> But now when anytime you remove one of these guys from the infrastructure, the other two guys absorb it. Like John
38:31Dson's not going to have a 15% target share here.
38:34>> No, he's not. No, [laughter] he's not.
38:36Johnny Wilson's still on the team.
38:38Maybe. Maybe.
38:40I think he's out he's out for the year, right?
38:43>> Just he's he's like literally the next I mean it gets both in so quick.
38:46>> But we always love when they're missing a piece because it's so close.
38:49>> For sure. Yeah, because it just condenses. It doesn't >> Yeah, there's no one else.
38:53>> Um All right, Bill.
38:55>> Casey Washington isn't getting these targets like [laughter] like when like like Mooney's missing. It's like I don't do anything here. So,
39:01>> they just resigned Travis Fulgum to the active 53.
39:04>> Yeah, forever. [laughter] >> Um Bill's implied team total here. They got at 27. Um, Panthers are not uh not going to be in this one. It looks like
39:1619 and a half for them. Uh, they're starting Andy Dalton. Honestly, like the way I I was looking at this, like if you
39:24wanted to put up the most points possible, you just pass all over this Panthers uh defense that doesn't have a pass rush. Um,
39:33they they're not blitzing at a super high rate. Uh the the Bills have protected well. Uh the Panthers are defending the run well now, but they're
39:43still, you know, they still can't get to the passers. So like Josh Allen theoretically set up for a big time game
39:48here, but I think the Bills just do run the ball >> and and kind of they're not worried about the Panthers run defense and James
39:56Cook gets fed and it's a little bit more limited in passing volume than than ideal for, you know, putting up 50. But
40:03their goal isn't to put up 50. It's to just win. And so they're going to be out in front. And uh I think Dalton's gonna
40:11have a hard time keeping up with Josh Allen. You know, real real bold take there. But I I think that this will be a
40:17more balanced Bills team than we would prefer from from a fantasy point of view, but that they ultimately will be effective. Like I think James Cook,
40:25James Cook I would put on the list of like running backs that give you ceiling that aren't that are pivots off of the
40:33the obvious ceiling plays in in Robinson and and Taylor. I think he's in that mix. Davis was Davis said his his
40:40rushing line is going to be 97 yards and two touchdowns, which felt pretty accurate, >> which would be, you know, definitely
40:47counter to what Carolina's been giving up um to running backs. When you look at these past three games, Bree Hall 11 for
40:5438. Uh Javvante Williams 13 for 29. And then we were like, oh, you know, Javvante back to a pumpkin and then just
41:01immediately bounces back last week. And then Devin Han had 10 runs for 16 yards.
41:05They've been really good against the run.
41:07>> Really good.
41:07>> That that's the thing.
41:08>> And the season long numbers are good now, too. It's not just the the trend recent trends been awesome, but they're
41:13up to third in DVO, 12th in EPA, and first in success rate against the run for the season. And this would be a nice
41:19test too because we know inherently the Bills do want to to run things through the run game. Uh that's what makes this
41:25this matchup interesting in general. So if both teams are able to do what they want to do, then this game is going to
41:30be over in two hours. Like >> yeah, >> uh they're number one and number two in time of possession. The uh 43% of the
41:38yardage gained by the Panthers this year has been rushing. That's the um third highest rate in the league. 39.9% of the
41:45Bills yardage has been gained through rushing. It's the fifth highest rate in the league. And then inversely, the 48% of the yardage allowed by the
41:53Bills has been via rushing. Like they've been awful against the run, they're not going to have Dacoin Jones here either.
41:58So if like they're just like letting this now tandem backfield or you know, whatever Dave Canal wants to sell us, like if they're if Panthers are able to
42:06play their style of football, like this game's going to have a lot of rushing and speed by uh pretty quickly uh by
42:13this one. So, it's it depends on if if Carolina can stop the run and push Josh Allen to actually have to throw. That's
42:18the dynamic where like your Bills guys could get there a little bit, but it's mostly just Josh Allen getting there.
42:23Josh Allen rarely brings guys along with him um because they just play so many guys. Don Concaid would maybe be the one
42:30guy you can try really coax yourself in, especially in this matchup. But >> yeah, but I noted with him, so he's out
42:37last week and um you have Dawson Knox had 77% route participation, which is the highest by a tight end on the Bills
42:46all season. Uh Concade had the previous high at just 63%. I was like, you know, it is interesting, right? Concincaid's out. Knox isn't at 87%,
42:57you know, even even 80 83. He's at 77 because Jackson Haw plays. Jackson Halls was at 23% participation last week and he's been
43:07mixing in throughout the season and I think he's gonna they they like him. I think he's gonna continue to mix in. It
43:13just creates a situation.
43:14>> He's going to be the Knox replacement for sure cuz he's so good. He's a he's a dominant like in the run game.
43:19>> The run game. Yeah.
43:21>> No, for sure. They're going to let Knox walk and then it'll be Dalton Concade% of the rounds next year too.
43:28>> Yeah. People will be drafting Dalton Kate as tight end five.
43:31>> Yeah. But I mean concaid I feel it feels like it first of all it's been so consistent his raw participation's been
43:3860 59 63 57 and 60% this year >> um it's going to it's not changing it's not changing like even if Knox were to
43:47get hurt it wouldn't change they just play they would just play Hawmore I think maybe he get up to 65 or 69 or
43:53something but yeah so it it just makes it more fragile like his his per route stuff has been awesome this year like he
44:00he's tight end one open score. He's tied in one in yards per route run at 2.59.
44:05He's got a 22% targets per out run. It's all really really good, but he just is not going to be out there enough and
44:12they want to run the ball. So, even with this good run defense, I think we're going to see plenty of the the blocking
44:19tight ends. And then, yeah, to your point on the Panthers, like Bills dead last in rushing DVO, 29th in EPA, 24th
44:26in success rate, like the Bills can't stop the run. You you can definitely run on the Bills. Uh Ed Oliver's back, which
44:32helps, but I still think they're going to look to run on on the Bills here. And um they've been a very effective running
44:39team. They got both guys back. It's now way less fun to see them running because we we can't benefit from it with Dowel
44:46as much, but they're still going to do it. And >> does he have any shot to take over, do you think? I mean, we saw it in the
44:53second half last week, but they, you know, Hubard got the contract. They still started Hubard, you know. Is it just turning to Kenneth Walker Sharpet?
45:02>> I think so. Yeah. I mean, maybe over time >> where D's just way more efficient, but then like Hubard is just like the goal
45:08lineback.
45:09>> If you're saying it's week 17, what's the chances, you know, that doubt's taken over? Like he has a chance for
45:15sure. But this week, I don't think so.
45:18>> Um the the other thing with the Panthers is that uh they've really pivoted. So they start the season and they have pass
45:27rates over expected of 02 minus three. On first down they're at 1 1 3. So you know they're kind of doing
45:35they're a normal team. Then against the Patriots the game they lost. They go minus 7 PE then minus 10% against the
45:44Dolphins - 10% against the Cowboys - 1% against the Jets. On first down - 20 - 29 - 255 and -8. Now they've got Andy
45:54Dalton coming in. They're just going to run the ball here. Like they're going to prioritize the run on first down. And I
46:01think you're really really going to have to push the Panthers to get them to to abandon the run. Like really push them.
46:08And the Bills are capable of doing that.
46:10Like they're incredibly capable of it.
46:12But I don't know that they're going to like play that style. Like are they going to win this game by 24 points? So,
46:20they're going to win it comfortably by 10 and never and and control the game the whole time, but it's, you know,
46:27they're not pouring it on. I I kind of think it's it's probably the latter. It could be the former, but um I just I
46:34don't know. I just don't see the the Panthers abandoning the run unless they're really really pushed here, which is always a little thin.
46:42>> Yeah. It's probably like the Saints game, right? Like, you know, that the Bills had so like Allen can get there.
46:48It depends what what Cook's doing in the touchdowns, but you know, the Saints kind of just hung around and were able
46:53to kind of run on them. You know, the Saints that was like the best running Saints game of the season. Um, they
46:59really run on anyone else. So, they're facing a better run team.
47:03>> Carolina's probably going to do that, which is a bummer because I do want to see uh Andy Dalton with T. like what if what
47:11changes there are like you know cuz we this is you know I've talked about Tets's like usage like all year that
47:16just like I don't think he's a marriage with where Bryce Young's comfortable like throwing the football inherently like how he's getting utilized uh
47:24because he's like a big disconnect in like man coverage stuff versus zone coverage stuff which I don't think is indicative really of the player he is. I
47:30think he is better on like in >> you almost think he'd be better against zone like he's kind of this big
47:34possession receiver guy >> and he he can win in contested catches so I get like that part of it but like
47:39you know Bryce Young just doesn't throw outside the numbers man and it's like I'm curious if just Dalton adds something better for T. I just want to
47:47see it. Uh so I'm in actually intrigued by it but I just don't know if we get the volume to chase it from a DFS
47:52perspective. like you're still starting Tet in your season long stuff because again a bunch of teams are on by and like you're not like and the Bills have
47:58been vulnerable to guys you know there's been some big numbers put up on them um you know Diggs Flowers had like huge oh
48:07and London all had monster games against them and they given up touchdowns to guys like Tyreek so but I just don't
48:12know if we get the pass volume because of the state of the Buffalo run defense >> I agree but I like the call I like I
48:20like >> I'm just curious because we don't know I'm Very curious to see if Ted has like you're like, "Oh, he's getting some
48:25different types of targets." Huh. Who who would have thought? Like who would have thought? Maybe it wasn't a >> Yeah, >> we've seen this with Kyler, right? Like
48:33a going the change from Kyler to Jacobe Brassette. I just am curious to see what Dalton brings to the table versus Bryce
48:39Young in terms of what they're running in terms of passing schemes.
48:44>> Yeah. No, I I I like that call. The the other note is that the the Bills will be down. Um you you mentioned Daquin Jones,
48:52but they'll also be without safety Taylor Rap. It looks like >> uh who has not that might be a positive injury. [laughter]
49:00>> Maybe >> Taylor questionable.
49:05>> Both are both are limited this week. So there could be some defensive injuries that make Dalton a little bit less scary
49:13here. And you know, I will say that one of the other things at play is that
49:22um Bryce Young kind of got benched here.
49:26Um he's injured but also benched. It's sort of a both I think. And you have this big pivot to the run. um that pivot
49:37the the funny thing is it actually occurs after the Falcons game which they which they won handily but they have the
49:43the the most fun game from a fantasy perspective really was against the the Cardinals when they're chasing they pass 80% of the time um they don't pivot to
49:52the run super super heavy on first down against the Falcons the following week um but they did only pass 52% of the
49:59time which is their second lowest pass rate of the year so you could kind of mark it um as the beginning there and
50:06then how much of that is related to Bryce Young. They're just like we're sick of this. We're sick of having to just chuck
50:13it with Bryce Young >> and also D >> you know I mean D was so good like why would you like especially those first
50:22two games when they had the real like >> well I guess it would be the uh started against the Dolphins though.
50:28>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Patriots game is where it was like the shift where they were just like let's simulate to end
50:33>> simulate end. We'll just run and get out of here. If we pass we this game is going to be longer like [laughter]
50:40>> Right. And that's where that's where I'm wondering if like Dalton >> maybe they do have a little more confidence. The problem with this theory
50:47is that Dalton played like crap last week.
50:50>> He did. Well, yeah. And uh yeah, last year he had that like I think his first two starts were decent in matchups. And
50:56then like when they started to play like good teams, it was just like, "Yep, no."
51:00>> Yeah.
51:00>> Yeah.
51:01>> So, I don't know. McMillan, I think there there's guys who I who I like adjust the projection on a little bit
51:08and then I don't play them anyway. And I think McMillan's one of those where I'm going to go in that too.
51:13>> And then I And then I won't play him.
51:15>> Yeah.
51:16>> Um 49ers of Texans. Anything else?
51:20>> No, no, no.
51:22>> 49ers of Texans. Um, as you mentioned, this is one of the games that's actually close in terms of the spread, but not a
51:30particularly fun game environment. Uh, although I will say that on the Texans side, you go against this 49ers defense that's
51:41without Nick Bosa and Fred Warner. And then they also look like they're gonna be down uh Bryce Huffet, Edge, cornerback Diamador Lenor. Both have had
51:50back-to-back DMPS. So, they have additional injuries. They kind of like >> it was impressive like >> Yeah. So yeah, he's gone. But um
51:59>> the Lenor Lenor, do you think Lenor's out?
52:02>> I don't know uh about Lenor. Let's see this afternoon. Well, Huff, they said Huff was going to they expect him to
52:08miss multiple weeks.
52:09>> Okay.
52:11>> Yeah, he's doubtful. Um and Lenor is still questionable, but hasn't practiced. Um, but yeah, I mean like they they held up well last week, the
52:2049ers defense, like way better than I would have thought, but it's kind of, you know, it's like sort of the the duct
52:26tape, you know.
52:27>> Oh, yeah, dude. They are just throwing young young dudes out there.
52:30>> Yeah. So, it could crumble and they suffered additional injuries last week.
52:35So, the Texans, um, Stout has been basically awful or he's played the Titans and a completely banged up Ravens defense. like it's one of [laughter] the
52:45like unless he gets the softest of soft matchups this season, it's really bad because their offensive line sucks. Um, >> and don't forget the Titans game.
52:55>> The Titans game was six to nothing going into the fourth quarter. [laughter] >> I for I did forget that. That's so bad.
53:03Yeah. So, anyway, I guess this is all leading to Daltton Schultz is going to be chalk this week. And I think it's
53:07fine. I think it's fine.
53:10>> It's fine.
53:10>> He's 3,300. This is a really, really banged up 49ers defense and targets have to go somewhere. Jaden Higgins not earning targets. Xavier Hutchinson
53:20comically not earning targets. Uh Jaylen Null probably starting in the slot with Christian Kirk out again.
53:27>> Mhm.
53:27>> He kind of is earning targets. I think maybe, you know, okay, but I don't know that I want to play him in DFS. Like is
53:32there enough ceiling? It's it's really coming down to Daltton Schultz who's had targets targets per out runs over the last three games of 23 25 26% and he's
53:41produced on two of those games. 250 yards per out run against the Ravens, 2.51 against the Seahawks. Uh his profile for the season looks like pretty
53:50strong. 22% targets per out run this year, 19% target share. That's 88th percentile to position. Uh 1.7 yards per outr run is 86th percentile. Is 89th
53:59percentile an open score? I don't I don't want to I'm gonna stop talking because I'm sick of touting Daltton Schultz, but I think he's fine. I think
54:06he's fine.
54:06>> Yeah, he is. I mean, it's the it's like he's the And we've seen it for two years because this the Texans wide receiver
54:12rooms been banged up the this third year in a row now. Uh and we've seen him get a little bit of a lift. He's he's better
54:18than he has like better top down metrics than Kate Den, but it's the Kottton effect. It's just, you know, the a
54:25player that's largely a ham and an eggar, but like when you have to throw to him is like reliable reliable enough
54:29to like feed him targets. And you know, with Fred Warner being out these past two weeks, we've seen them. They allowed
54:35all of Katton's catches came after Fred Warner left that game two weeks ago, five for 51. And then Kyle Pittz had
54:41seven for 62 against them last week. So, there's an opportunity here for him in this matchup. I would say like if you if
54:49you're playing the whack-a-mole game with the Texans guys, I do like null the most of them.
54:54>> Um and you know, Lenor changes some dynamics if he's out because the 49ers have been way worse on the interior and
54:59slot corners or to slot receivers. So, it gives him a little bit of juice. I think too of the backups he's just
55:04played the best.
55:05>> So, you just have a little more confidence and it's a very small sample, but >> you know, Jayen Higgins, you have to
55:11wonder like in in like in the building like has he shown them enough? like is he not playing because he's not really
55:18giving showing them much either, right?
55:20Like so [snorts] >> it feels that way because he was actually like producing a little bit in the first couple weeks but then his
55:29route participation did not increase.
55:32It's increased after the buy. He jumped uh to 61%.
55:36But did not record a catch and only had a 9% targets per route run. His his seasonl long stuff just looks bad. like
55:43he's at a 13% targets per outr run, 10% first read target rate. He's not really like earning targets at at a high rate
55:50and he's not a big part of the game plan. Like it's not like they have a sub package really for Jaden Higgins. I
55:55don't think he's just out there when he's out there and he's usually not getting >> I mean now he's basically going to be
56:01Nico Collins. So maybe you can try to talk yourself into like all right, he's gonna have a different role. But I mean
56:06we saw last week but when he just didn't get targeted again. Yeah, Collins missed most of of the game last week. He only
56:14Well, he missed about half the game last week. Had 52% participation.
56:18>> After after co with Collins off the field, Higgins was on the field for 89% of the drop backs, but only had two
56:25targets and didn't have a catch, >> you know. Uh N really being Nico Collins. He was >> he was playing.
56:33>> Well, also the way they've used Nico Collins this year, like like I don't even know that. We feel great about
56:38that. Nick Kayley, man, we got a lot of questions, brother.
56:41>> Yeah.
56:41>> Uh, but Jay >> Kay was bloated as one of the guys who might be May's offensive coordinator. I remember being like, "Okay." And I'm
56:48glad he's not.
56:50>> It's been rough. I mean, they just don't do anything creative. Uh, you saw him getting asked at that presser uh about
56:55them not moving Nico Collins around or using him in motion or anything and like he was kind of like, you know, didn't
57:01really have a great answer for it. Um, I mean, dude, they gave a they gave a goal line touch to Braxton Barios last week.
57:06Like I I Nick Kay like you are running a very close to borderline unserious operation here. [laughter] >> Yeah.
57:15>> Very close.
57:16>> They're Dude, I've never seen either.
57:17They rotate left guards. I've never seen this before. Like like they just they like alternate >> left guard.
57:24>> Yeah, they they've been for weeks they've been doing it. They like alternate their guards. I've never seen this before. Like a team do this. It's
57:31this is like a there's some things happening with this Houston Texans like like what is h what do we do?
57:36>> It's crazy.
57:38That's crazy. The Yeah, I mean it's they're 30th in pass block win rate. Um you think that's because they're rotating their left guard. Is that
57:47contributing? [laughter] Well, I mean, hey, this 49ers team, even after losing Bosa, like this would be the spot I feel like if you're not past
57:54rock blocking because uh they were already since losing Bosa, the 49ers are 27th in pressure and Bryce Huff over that period led the team in sacks and
58:03pressures by like a wide margin. He was like the only guy like getting to I know Eagles fans are going to be mad because
58:10uh if Bryce Huff doesn't play because if he gets a certain number of sacks like that pick changes >> uh for them,
58:15>> oh man. So like there and I think he was like like significantly tracking to get it. So like >> because he has five sacks.
58:22>> Yeah.
58:22>> So >> and maybe he was just meant to play in like the Robert Salah scheme. That's that was it. So but they need him on the
58:28field to get that draft pick to to get approved. [laughter] >> Without him, oh what will you do without a better draft pick from the Bryce
58:36Humprey? [snorts] >> Yeah. Always hustling, man. They're always hustling. But uh >> but yeah, I mean but you've seen it even
58:43before uh facing Michael Penn, though.
58:45Um on Sunday night the 49ers had allowed 11 yards for passing to Baker Mayfield with an empty wide receiver room because
58:52remember I got hurt that game.
58:54>> Uh and then you know Matthew Stafford had the eight eight over eight yards for pass attempt too. I mean granted you
58:59take a leap of faith because Houston is literally down to Daltton Schultz and some guys that but like >> I thought null was a good prospect. Uh
59:06granted we know we know they're going to run Xavier Hudson the most routes though. Like we know this we know this
59:12is happening.
59:13>> Yeah.
59:15You got to take a leap of faith. I'm not playing Straoud, but I guess if you're in season long 2QB with all this bi-week
59:19hell, you're at least can say like, hey, maybe maybe this is it. There's a runway here where I can get 16 fantasy points.
59:27>> I'm definitely not playing Straoud. But I but I, you know, as I covered, I think Schultz is totally fine even as a chalk
59:34piece because because he's cheap and I think you could play null. Um >> he's that cheap. He's remember they played Monday night
59:42>> so >> they didn't they didn't get to change any of these guys prices >> and you know the slot stuff has been if
59:49you look at Christian Kirk like where his his role has been it's it's been pretty solid and I think that probably
59:57informs something about the way the offense is designed like Christian Kirk is a 16% first read target rate >> and the protection
60:04>> um >> they don't have any protection right and and so getting the ball out quickly to the slot guy Makes a lot of sense.
60:10Null's taking that over. He's not going to have like true full-time route participation. Even last week, he was only at 48%. Like, if he was at 65% last
60:20week, I'd be pretty in. But I I am worried that he's like at 50% participation.
60:25>> Well, he was at 65% on the plays Nico Collins play.
60:29>> Okay. Okay.
60:30>> Literally dead on. 65.4.
60:33>> All right. That's that's encouraging.
60:35>> I mean, you need the 49ers to win this game, too, if you play null.
60:40Yeah. Well, what do you what's your thoughts of on the 49ers side here?
60:44>> I mean, they alligator blood team, dude.
60:47Like, this you can't like they lose a starter every week. They do. They're They lost a offensive starter again.
60:52Jake Brendle's not going to play in this game. He hurt his hamstring. Matt Hennessy is going to play center.
60:56>> Um, >> and I I had some some some really cool notes because it wasn't just as simple as KD coming back. Kyle Shanahan
61:03actually changed the entire run game up.
61:06Um, obviously KD coming back is is huge, you know, uh, inflection point. We talked about him coming back last week, but so through six weeks, 51% of
61:16Christian McAffy's runs were outside zone runs. Um, you know, st Kyle Shanahan staple the outside zone. Well, on Sunday, he has season low 29% outside
61:25zone uh, zone run rate. Um, he's he's they shifted. They ran a lot more downhill, a lot more power. 29 and a
61:32half uh% of his runs were power runs. He turned those into 58 yards. Uh he ran for 7.1 yards per carry guard to guard.
61:40Just again, none of this messing around trying to run outside like let's play power football. Now the problem with that is that came against the lighter
61:50Atlanta Falcons front. Was that something that they saw and they wanted to make a change or it was something like fundamentally getting KD back they
61:56thought they could do? And are they going to be able to do that against this Houston defense? Right. Like that's that's kind of the bugaboo because
62:03Houston seventh in yards or carry to running backs. They're eighth in yards allowed before contact running backs less than a yard. So like we're going to
62:10really put what we saw Sunday night to the test here. Uh in terms of the run game scheme change if it even if it was
62:16just like uh something that they want to run back and do again, we're going to get this significantly tested against this Houston defense.
62:23I've been kind of comparing him a little bit to Chimera. Not this year version, but last year year's version where it's
62:29like he's Yes, he's washed as a runner, but he's still getting like so many carry. He's like supercharged washed chimera. But maybe maybe he's like maybe
62:38he's Kiran now. Is he is he Kiran as a runner with the with the power?
62:42>> He looked legitimately good Sunday night.
62:44>> He did look good. He did look good.
62:46Kairen's not got any bursts, but he can still do it.
62:49>> Yeah.
62:49>> You know, um >> Yeah. You're not going to get the 30 yard macccaffrey runs, but he can get you like twelves if it's there. If it's
62:56there, >> we'll take twelves. 12elves are great with a with a 27% target share or whatever. 12 yard runs is awesome.
63:03>> Um the one thing Yeah, this is a tough spot for the 49ers.
63:09>> How aggressively are you getting to him though? like he's been such a Gibralar this year, but like on this particular
63:15slate, like we've already talked about Henry and Barkley kind of being like those mid-rangy guys and obviously we haven't even gotten to the two top guys.
63:23Does is I don't think overlook's not the phrase I want to use, but like against the Houston Texans, like is this a spot
63:29where he actually isn't really played like as aggressively as we have been?
63:35>> And does it make sense? Does it track to being to make sense? It kind of does, right?
63:39Yeah, I I think he will get squeezed. I think you're you're going to say you can go down to Bejon, which is pretty appealing. Save 200. Or
63:50if you're going to pay up Taylor, like with the 30 point implied team total against the Titans and the way he's
63:58looked and the the team's just rolling right now, I have heard I think half a dozen people refer to the Colts as a wagon this week.
64:08The cults are a wagon. That's just it's like [laughter] what does wagon mean?
64:14>> I don't know. I just like I hadn't even really heard that and I just like literally have heard like six different
64:18people like cults are a wagon and so and I [laughter] I don't know. Did a memo go around? But uh the cults are wagon, man. [laughter]
64:27They're a wagon. They're they're just going to put up 30 points and Taylor's going to crush and I I think people are
64:33going to just want to be a part of that.
64:35And yeah, I I do think that that McAffrey gets underplayed. I can't tell you I'm going to play him though.
64:42>> Yeah. Right. I mean, how much respect are you?
64:46>> Yeah. How much respect are you putting on this defense? Because like the Demo Demo Ryan is literally running back like
64:51the Robert Salah playbook. Like I can coach defense and I keep putting my offense into terrible hands.
64:58>> They're going to trade for Aaron Rogers.
65:00>> I hope not. Uh >> me too. Uh yeah, blitz rate uh blitz blitz per drop back 26th um Texans. So
65:10you 26th highest. So they're not blitzing months. They have the eighth highest pressure rate >> and the sixth highest pressure rate.
65:17Yeah, it's beautiful. It's old school getting there with the front four. You know, this is how you beat Tom Brady.
65:22You get with there with the front four.
65:23You know, we're back we're back in in the late >> That's what all these Bio guys wants to do, man. This is why the NFL turned into
65:29what happened, though. Like it's all these fangio guys all turned it into this like hey we can get pressure with four and play quarters and cover six.
65:37>> Yeah.
65:38>> Like because people always credit to the that they think too high as cover two.
65:42No man the NFL is playing all cover four like pattern match. Like that's what that's all Fangio [ __ ] This is all
65:48Fangio's fault.
65:50>> Yeah.
65:51>> And if you can get a pass rush without and it's that's been tried and true in every iteration of NFL is if you can get
65:57pressure without blitzing, you're gonna be good. you're gonna be all right.
66:01>> Yeah.
66:03And that I mean that's them and and you know the 49ers offensive line isn't like terrible but they're without their starting center as you mentioned. Um and
66:11so this could be rough man. They like and I'm not I've I've been impressed with M.
66:19Jones this year but I have never wavered on you know party over Jones. And I think Joe, it's the offscript stuff,
66:28right? Like birdie has the offscript game >> whereas Mac is doing a lot of the things that we've seen Kyle Shanahan like coax
66:36out of pocket passers before, >> right?
66:39>> And you seen though Mac's under pressure stuff is terrible. Like I mean >> great under pressure >> and because Perty can actually has his
66:48gene to create off script. That's the right like peri the the first quarterback Kyle Shans ever had in his career cuz he had Griffin early in his
66:56career, but Griffin wasn't the the passer. Like he there was no marriage.
66:59Like he was athletic, but his his processing was never there. Where Perie like can actually create some [ __ ] out
67:06of nothing. Like he has that he's he has that in his repertoire. But like yeah, when M. Jones has been pressured, he
67:12goes to 25th in yards per pass attempt.
67:15um 8.3 yards per completion is 33rd, 22nd in touchdown rate, and he's also 19th in sack rate. Like he gets the [ __ ]
67:22beat out of him. Like he was like Carson Wentz last night that M. Jones in that remember that game against the Rams on
67:29Thursday night. Every hit you're like this dude's out of the game. Like oh my god, [laughter] >> we see a lot of M. Jones getting hit
67:36this this game.
67:37>> He's tough. I'll give him I mean honestly like I don't mean to criticize M. Jones here. Like he's played really
67:43well. is back.
67:44>> They're grateful that they signed him.
67:46>> Yeah, he's been great. I just think Pertie never gets enough respect. I think Pertie's really good >> and um it just hurts not to have him in
67:54this game. U >> and the 49ers completely kosher winning this game 1713 if they if that's on the table.
68:02>> Oh, they would love that. I I'm I'm worried about that. like as as we talk about this like this they've managed to
68:08keep the wheels on with they've lost their two best players on defense who are like two of the best players on
68:16defense in the league righta and and Warner like these are huge losses doesn't this game feel similar to two weeks ago when they played Tampa doesn't
68:27it feel like just kind of very similar like where they went on the road they faced a team that could get pass rush
68:33and then like it kind of they just don't hold as much.
68:36>> Yeah. Yeah. So on So, okay. So, if we're talking about this script, then all of a sudden the Texans running backs maybe
68:44start to look interesting and one of those running backs happens to be a rookie who's coming off a 63% snap share
68:49after the buy and 59% of the carries.
68:52Woody Marks, I believe, is 5100.
68:55Uh there's a few guys um that I want to bring up. Uh, actually I we we already talked about one of them in Swift as a
69:04potential pivot in kind of this mid-range. I'm I'm less intrigued by him than I am by the other two. Woody Marks
69:11is at 5100 with Swift at 59. So you save there and you could have him being the clear lead back in a, you know, against
69:20a really beat up team while his team is is leading and doesn't really want to pass with with Nico Collins out and not
69:28being able to protect Straoud, you know, very well even even with the 49ers defense being what it is.
69:34>> So they could lean on Woody Marks here.
69:35I know he's not like um going to have, you know, 85% of the snaps or whatever.
69:40Chub will mix in and and maybe steals a touchdown. And so it's it's a little fragile, but Marks is a good pass
69:45catcher and has flashed at times this year. And I'm encouraged by his usage out of the buy.
69:52>> Yeah, he's someone I like I said, I keep drawing that parallel to that Bucks game and he would be like Rashad White was in
69:58that game. I feel like cuz the 49ers aren't getting a pass rush, but remember they invested a ton of draft picks in terms of stopping the run this
70:06year and all those guys are still available and we saw that even on Sunday night that they still played the run
70:12really well with withstand Robinson. So like u that's kind of the concern is like you would have like him just doing
70:19the Rashad White stuff where it's like inefficient rushing. You can tack on some receiving but you still need probably multiple touchdowns. you need
70:26multiply, >> right? Because that's like that's that's the the tricky spots. Like all those guys have been really good that the like
70:33Michael Williams, Alfred uh Alfred Collins, like those guys have been really good against the run. CJ West in the snaps he comes in and subs in. Like
70:40uh they they still play the run well.
70:42It's that just they have no pass rush.
70:43They just have no rushers. So I and then they said I just don't know how the Texans take a part of that because like
70:49Baker took advantage of it by throwing these moonshot. Now remember Baker hit Tez on that awesome play. That's where he did the back flip. Uh Cameron Johnson
70:57caught like a wide >> MVP and Tess thought it was for him.
70:59>> Test thought it was for him. Uh >> yeah, I that's the game I keep shaking.
71:04So like I could see it though. You do probably need multiple touchdowns from him because I don't know if the rushing
71:08efficiency is going to be there for him.
71:11>> I agree. And his rushing efficiency has actually been pretty bad. He's been worse than Chub on the ground >> and that was his bugaboo in college.
71:18>> Yeah, he's a I was I I made myself draft some marks but it was never fun. Um, so I think I've talked myself back out of
71:26it, but in season long I would kind of RB2 decision. I'd break ties to him.
71:32>> Yeah, he's a a solid like floor-based RB2 type of guy. And then you if you can get multiple touchdowns, you feel really
71:38great about the outcome.
71:40>> Totally. Um, all right, let's go to Browns.
71:43>> Dude, running back rankings this week are something.
71:46>> [laughter] >> We we talked about, you know, the the tears and just cuz I have let's just cuz I have put this guy 17th does not mean
71:55that he's as good as the guy I usually put at 17.
71:59>> Yeah. This week with the 16 buys and some injuries. I mean there >> Yeah. I'd be curious if uh anyone in the
72:05chat wants to Who's the worst player you're starting this week? [laughter] >> Great great uh thing to throw out.
72:11>> I'm starting Pat Bryant in a Dynasty League this week.
72:14>> Hell yeah.
72:15>> Yeah. That's I I mean it's not a running back, but it's >> that's a deep one.
72:20>> It's a league where you have it's three wide receivers and two flexes. So, you know, obviously I've got the excuse of I
72:27need to Nope. It's a third receiver.
72:30He's my third. It's He's not my flex. I ran out of receivers. I had Mike Evans.
72:34I've got a bunch of guys on by. I ran out. Pat Bryant's going in. Good game environment, though. Maybe it pays off.
72:41>> Oh, yeah. We'll get there.
72:44Uh, Browns at Patriots. Um, I I I'll kind of start with the Patriots here.
72:51The Okay, there's two things kind of happening simultaneously. One is that the Patriots offensive line is pretty clearly overrated when you look at their
73:01seasonl long numbers. You know, they they they're seventh best in preventing quick pressure. They're they're 13th in preventing pressure. Um, but you look at
73:09their pass block win rate, they're only 21st there. And they've really only faced the Steelers as far as like impressive pass rushes go. They held up
73:17pretty well in that game, but they've not been tested almost the entire season. They go against the Browns pass rush that you pass rush win rate,
73:26they're first pass rush grade, they're second. Now, teams are actually passing so quickly against the Browns, they're not generating pressure at a super high
73:34rate, but this is a truly elite pass rush. It's they got Miles Garrett and they're actually pretty deep behind him.
73:39So, uh, this is really really going to put the Patriots offensive line to the test. It'll also put May to the test.
73:45May has a 24% pressure to sack rate, which is not good. He has 3.04 seconds time to throw, which is pretty long. So,
73:54he's going to need to speed that up.
73:56Now, some of that, I think, is him actually like hanging on to the ball knowing he won't be >> his time to pressure his time to throw
74:03on his pressures is 3.63 63 seconds.
74:06It's 30th in the league. So, he creates some of it, too.
74:09>> He creates some, but I think he takes it on. To me, that's a good sign for quarterback. You're kind of like
74:14>> when you get pressured, what are you like buying with that pressure? And it better be downfield shots. Like, if you're if you're taking on pressure and
74:23your ADOT's like six, like you suck.
74:27Like, like go >> Justin Fields.
74:29>> Why did you even bother getting pressured? Like, you know what I mean?
74:32you took on the Now, if you're getting pressure in like two seconds, sure. But like if you if you're taking time and
74:39the pressure is coming and it's sort of part part of it is that you're sort of allowing that to happen, you better be
74:45taking shots downfield, which May very much does. Um, so he's been awesome, man.
74:51>> His quarterback won an EPA per game.
74:53He's been crushing, >> dude. He made like four throws last week where I like, you know, I watch the games at my oldest and I'm like tapping
75:00on. You see that? Did you see that throw? Like did you see that throw >> throw along the side?
75:04>> Did you see that throw? Like I'm just like, "Oh my gosh." Cuz you know we we bring like uh like TVs all into the room
75:09so we could have all the games on. Like we're not red zone watchers. Uh but we like to cuz I like I have always been
75:16like from you probably did with blurbs from Roto World. Like I love the flow of the game. I have to watch like the the
75:21context like the flow of the game and uh I like have like trained myself to kind of like eyes dart around everywhere and
75:28u so >> you go like what what how many TVs do you have in there? Are you you quad boxing some of these TVs or
75:34>> Yeah. Uh so yeah, we do the four and then we have a a giant one that like we put like either the game of the week on
75:40or one we want to like really follow. Uh quad box Yeah. do do like multiple quad boxes and then share games. But uh we
75:47>> I've always just been that way. never like I always and people that do this is not a shot of if you watch Red Zone by
75:52all means like it's great like it's the reason like you know the >> Red Zone's awesome.
75:57>> Yeah. I I like to go Red Zone one one I have a quad box and I Red Zone's one of
76:02them and then I'll do three games.
76:04>> When we were uh >> usually one of them because I'm obsessed with Drake May >> when the ticket first came out. We used
76:09to have like a local watering hole that had all the games up. They had a wall.
76:14They had a wall of literally 12 TVs on a straight line wall and they used to show every game and like I just you just kind
76:21of get trained like at first like when you first watch it you like how do you follow all this and you just it just
76:26kind of happens. Yeah.
76:27>> So like I can kind of like follow all the games and like what how they're happening and watch oh yeah this
76:31happened here and then like you see the play and you know where the stoppage is and your eyes divert like a different
76:37>> I was like yeah I'm like sh I'm like did you see this throw? Did you see this throw that he just made? Uh
76:42>> yeah, man. He's I mean the booty the booty touchdown was sick. Like it's just that was so funny too because I for who
76:50the the uh the announcer was like because it's a former Patriot. I'm blanking on his name, but he was like Josh McDaniels like he's going to make
76:59sure not to go too fast here because they're going to want to get the ball.
77:02They're going to want to have the ball last and score and then get the ball a after halftime. And like as he's saying
77:08that, May drops back and rips a touchdown to Case John Booty. [laughter] And then he he like posted on Twitter.
77:14He's like, I'm I'm never forgiving McDaniels for this. Did me so dirty. But yeah, I mean there was he was So May,
77:22yeah, May's quarterback won an EPA per game. This is kind of the other side of this is that like the Browns pass rush
77:27is for real. The Patriots offensive line is not for real. And May takes sacks and he invites pressure.
77:32But May has been awesome under pressure this year. Um, while dealing with quick pressure, he has the highest EPA per play in the NFL. That's pressure in 2.5
77:43seconds or less, which isn't really on the quarterback. Um, but he's been awesome at handling it. Daniel Jones is the only other quarterback with positive
77:49EPA against quick pressure this year.
77:52And and when you look at pressure arriving after 2.5 seconds, he's quarterback three in EPA per play behind only Patrick Mahomes and Daniel Jones.
77:58So pressure is bad. Like it's not like, "Oh, he'll be good because he's good against pressure." Like every quarterback's better clean than under
78:05pressure, but he's not like some dude who's like, "Oh, as long as he's clean, he's awesome, and if he's under pressure, he turtles up." Like, he's
78:12awesome under pressure. The question is, can he get the ball out very quickly, consistently, and and that's how you have to play the Browns? That's how
78:20everyone plays the Browns. opponents have a 2.58 second time to throw against um against the Browns this year, which is exactly what Aaron Rogers has and
78:29exactly what Dylan Gabriel has. It's like a really short, quick, >> you know, get the ball out type of approach. Um against the rest of the
78:37league, opponents are averaging 2.81 second time to throw. Um sorry, 2.82 second time to throw, which is just a a split second faster, split second slower
78:47than Trevor Lawrence. So, the gap, the rest of the league, you play like Trevor Lawrence against the Browns, you play like Dylan Gabriel. You just get the
78:55ball out. And um that's going to be the big point of emphasis for the Patriots this week because the Browns have an
79:02elite run defense and the Patriots can't run the ball. So, I I don't I think they're too sharp to just slam Raandre
79:08Stevenson into an elite run defense. I do think they will understand what the pivot is here, which is quick passing.
79:15That helps Stefon Diggs a little bit. It the the matchup overall kind of hurts, but he's really getting targeted at a
79:21high rate on these quick throws. 2.5 seconds or less. He has a 37% targets per run and 3.05 yards per route run.
79:28Hunter Henry second with a 20% targets per route run. So, I think you could you could do a May double here with Diggs
79:37and Henry. I don't know if I end up doing it, but I think that the Patriots I think will be fine here. Uh I and I
79:45think the way they score points has to be the quick passing game. It can't they're not going to be able to to
79:50consistently move the ball on the ground. Um it'll be a little less fun.
79:54You know, Booty is probably not going to get loose for a deep touchdown this week against this pass rush, but I I think
80:01the Patriots will be okay even though the Browns pass rush is definitely for real.
80:06>> Yeah, probably. It's probably one of those things though like what kind of fantasy squeeze do we get? This is like
80:11the first time for like fantasy purposes I've kind of been like I don't know if we're going to play Bay this week is
80:17it's genuinely the first time and honestly is the out of all the games we've had this is the first one I'm like
80:21I mean the only guy they've even allowed more than 15 fantasy points too was Aaron Rogers.
80:26>> Um so it's like you know he can always get there with the legs. That's the one think you have. U so May has gotten the
80:33ball out within two and a half seconds on only 37.9% of his drop backs. is 32nd in the league. Talked about his pressure
80:41stuff being 30th. The Browns have also turned 25% of their pressures into sacks, which is second in the NFL. Like they're also one of those teams like
80:49they're just hard to buy time against because their pass Garrett man like what are you going to do?
80:54>> Um >> and then you know on quick throws throws within two and a half seconds May's ADOT goes to four yards downfield is 29th in
81:02the league. So um I'm interested. This is a great I think this is gonna be I want to actually I'm excited to watch
81:08May in this game.
81:08>> This is a real test for May.
81:10>> I want to see it. Yeah. I want because you know you loved May. I love May. We weren't the only ones but it's like he's
81:15been so good and he's exceeded expectations in terms of efficiency as a thrower. I I want to see it now. Like
81:22yeah like let's show it to us. Like show it to us here. Um the game environment is probably fine enough overall for them
81:27to still win the game. I still just want more than them winning the game. I want to see I want >> Me But I mean they they're 23.75 imply
81:36team total and I don't think they're going to be able to run the ball.
81:39>> So I I I think he'll be okay. Like I it's not a guarantee. Like this is a real test, >> but I think he'll be I think he'll be
81:46able to move the ball. And part of it is that you know Diggs has come on recently >> and has been you know it really the
81:54first three weeks of the season like Diggs is playing like half the routes.
81:57Um, >> and the Browns have given up some like to as good as their defense has been, we've seen good receiver games against
82:04them like for sure. I mean, Metaf had four for 95 in a touchdown. Almanra seven for 70 and two. Jefferson went
82:12over 100 yards. A Flowers had seven for 75.
82:15>> Um, >> they play a lot of man and Diggs has been really good against man. Do you have any do you have any thoughts on
82:21that with with the Browns and their kind of man coverage scheme? Yeah, I mean he's a he knows how to play wide
82:26receiver. Like that's the thing, right?
82:28Like he can get open. He's still he's still uncovering. He's good in all the no matter where you go to or you
82:33subscribe to from like getting open. He also passes the eye test when you see him. Um but he's been targeted on 30% of
82:39his routes against man coverage. Uh Cleveland's most highest in the league.
82:43Uh they trust their they trust their defense. Um >> he's at 4.65 yards per out run like gets gets open. Um yeah, they don't have like
82:51a huge sample of of like facing it, but like uh >> he he Diggs has been like better than advertised this year and we kind of knew
82:59this over the summer when they were like he's ahead of schedule and everything and he's he's just >> started slow. So I think there's like
83:06this feeling of oh Diggs terrible pick.
83:08I remember thinking like oh man what was I thinking with Diggs like >> we knew there'd be ramp >> coming off the ACL tear. Yeah, but it's
83:14like you know in week two like this whole season's played out. we know everything we're going to know. You know, it's like hard to remember how
83:20much chaos is left to come, but he's been awesome over the last four weeks.
83:26>> Yeah. And we'll see uh on Sunday night because, you know, Christian Watson's going to dress and he he'll probably run
83:30eight pass routes.
83:33>> Christian Watson coming back before Brandon Iuk is pretty wild.
83:37>> Yeah. Well, it's part for the course of this Aayuk this organization.
83:41>> Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
83:44Um all right, let's uh let's talk Browns. I will. Yeah, I was going to say good.
83:49>> Yeah, I was going to say the Browns just there's a little bit, very little, but >> do you have any hope for like Steven? I
83:56mean, Stevenson is more season long.
83:58>> Not really, man. Because like you said, uh I mean, even last week against So, he he has two games where he's been useful
84:04for fantasy and they were against the Titan uh the Dolphins and the Titans like pretty clear obvious >> like Helen Keller knows to play she can
84:13see playing dudes against these games.
84:15But every against everyone else, he's rusher 38 yards or less. Uh Browns um are literally allowing 0.43 yards before contact on backfield runs. Number one in
84:25the NFL, third in success rate. They are fourth in allowing first down touchdown rate. I am like you like this what this
84:32what this what makes this from a real football perspective. I don't know if there's gonna be a lot of fantasy points
84:36in this game, but from a real football perspective, I'm curious to see how the Patriots get there. Like >> yeah, >> it I'm genuinely curious. I am genuinely
84:44curious. So I'm I'm out I'm out on Arj though. I don't see the ceiling.
84:50>> This is how this is how confident you know when you go when May going on this type of run where he's literally
84:55quarterback one in EPA per game. I'm like yeah okay bring on the Browns.
84:59Bring on the Brown. I I'm glad. Listen, I'm really glad that they have the easiest remaining schedule left after the easiest schedule to this point.
85:08That's great. I couldn't be happier about that. I do like that we get this one test and then if it doesn't go well,
85:14he gets a bunch [laughter] of easy games again and we can go recoup. You know, this is almost like by weeks and then
85:22we'll come back and you'll get the Bucks later on and and uh and maybe you'll you'll do better in that game. So, I I
85:28like this. This is just a kind of an ideal situation as a May backer where you get the test and even if he fails
85:32the test, >> it'll be okay because they get soft matchups again.
85:35>> Yeah, I don't think I would stream for him in managed leagues. I would still I mean >> I would play him.
85:41>> We just don't have the options either.
85:43Like what are you going to do?
85:45>> You're not playing and Daltton over Drake May. I won't allow it.
85:48>> Like maybe if you have a team that had maybe you took May and Bon Knicks together and maybe you would bow, but
85:53that'd be that'd probably be the line for me.
85:55>> Yeah. So in the rankings, let me see where I think I am going to end up having Knicks higher. Uh I'm curious to
86:04see if I made myself do it already.
86:08Yes, I already have Knicks ahead. Um, >> that'd be it though. But I mean, how many teams have those two guys? Some
86:13Some might, but >> because their ADP was kind of >> It's not fun. I don't want to play Knicks over May, but I think you should.
86:22>> Yeah. Yeah.
86:23>> Yeah. But I have I have May ranked I have May ranked above Daniel Jones, which maybe is bad because Jones is like
86:32so clearly going to be on a team that scores a bunch of points. But I think like May like if they score points it
86:38has to be through May where if Jones scores points it does not have to be through Jones. So I think that's that's
86:44close to me. Who would you play between those two guys?
86:49>> Um I would probably play Jones just for the floor. Like I would say it's floor.
86:54Do you know what I mean? I would say that >> but it would depend like it would depend on kind of maybe my matchup. Maybe I
86:59felt like I needed to chase like an optimal outcome. Um it's close. I do have Jones. Uh, well, I actually have
87:04Jones one spot higher.
87:07>> So, it's not even like it's So, that was like a good call on your part. It was like a It was a good call.
87:12>> No, I mean that's I have them back to back and it's like, yeah, I could see Jones. I I might end up flipping Jones,
87:16but it's very close that. So, just to give people an idea of like the May >> because uh May Jones is in the same spot
87:23May was in last week uh you know where like we talk about the Texans or Titans and they don't give up a lot of points
87:29because teams don't have to throw on them, but like while teams are throwing them, they're not good. So, as long as
87:34the Colts are throwing, while they're throwing, Jones will be fine, >> right? No, Jones will be great while they're throwing, but how many times
87:41does he throw?
87:42>> Yeah. Yeah, we we'll talk about them uh a little bit here.
87:46>> Dylan Gabriel and Browns.
87:50>> Yeah, we'll get to the wagon, don't worry. Uh [laughter] >> culture wagon, man. Um Browns, they're uh I don't know. There's not a lot going
88:01on here. here. Quinn John Judkins getting all the carries. Dylan Gabriel was okay against the Dolphins, but it's the Dolphins. Patriots are a pretty good
88:09pass defense. Really good run defense.
88:13Um, if Injoku's out, Fannon is is definitely playable. But >> would have been great to play Fannon on a flop lag spot, man. It would have been
88:21so good. But I I actually saw a video of Injoku at practice and he was like literally jumping around like I was like
88:28this dude's playing like >> Yeah.
88:31>> Remember last year he set himself on fire and came back and played the the >> you got to give him Yeah. You got to
88:36hand it to him.
88:37>> Yeah.
88:37>> Like he's I assume he's playing but man it would have been such a good spot to play Fan because everything happened for
88:42Fan and we wanted to. It's just that the the Browns dogwalked them like no pun intended. Like >> like he he 87% drop back rate target on
88:5125% of his routes. He ran 20 routes >> like y >> it would have been such an awesome spot to come back to him
88:57>> and we're probably getting injoku back and he still might be okay. It's just we would have wanted the the near 90% route
89:03rate against the team like we they're going to have to throw in this game.
89:07>> Um we saw >> like from season long like I still think he he's very playable. It's just that now with the salary, I don't think like
89:14I saw him as a tight end one, >> but I think with the salary in DFS, it's just it's just a lot less appealing,
89:21>> right? Um because they're going to have to throw. We saw two weeks ago uh when they were road dogs against the
89:25Steelers, uh like Kevin Stfansky had no qualms of letting Dylan Gabriel throw 50 times. Like he was like, "Cool." Like cuz this is where I think like this is
89:36where they're going to have to like Judkins. I mean, three touchdowns covers up a lot. And I don't think it was a I
89:41don't think it's a Judkins problem. So on Sunday, he averaged 0.44 yards uh negative 0.44 yards before contact per rush against the Dolphins.
89:52He had a 28% success rate. Uh he failed to gain yardage on 32% of his runs. Like this line, you've been talking about it
89:58too. We talk this line is just beat this beat to hell. They're they're down.
90:02>> They get Conklin back though.
90:04>> Yeah. So he's he's 35th out of 37 running backs now in yards before contact. He's a road dog. like a pretty
90:10sizable road dog. And oh yeah, the Patriots are incredible against the run because they spent a bunch of money against the run. Nobody's run for 49
90:18yards or more or run for more than 49 yards against them. They're we talk about the Browns and their yardage allowed before contact. Well, the
90:24Patriots are second. They're behind the Browns. Yeah. And three. So like it's probably going to be like I could see Dylan Dylan Gabri having like another
90:31game where it's like literally 40 plus dropbacks in this game.
90:37Then maybe maybe Fannon does get there ultimately. But it's he's definitely harder to play in DFS. It's like one of those things where you're like, I'm
90:44gonna play Fannon. Then you're like, well, KD's kind of the same price, so I I'm playing Fannon over KD.
90:50>> No, it's the grossest thing, but I and I don't know if you're going to do it in DFS, but like I mean I think Judy
90:57objectively is okay in this game. Like at least you know he's going to get a bunch of targets. Oh man, >> he I mean he's had over 20% of the team
91:06targets in the past two Gabriel games. I mean he has he has over 40% of the air yards. They started to play Jamari
91:12Thrash over Isaiah Bond. Uh >> yeah, >> and two weeks ago when they had that game, that game script, he had 13
91:19targets. Now granted, I don't know what he's going to do with these targets, but >> I I do imagine this is a game where Judy
91:25does get double digit targets. I I could really see it.
91:28>> Judy Judy's averaging 6.8 eight PPR points per game. Do you want to just take a quick guess on what his expected
91:35points per game is per PFF?
91:38>> Uh, well, I guess we're moving last week. It's got to be >> is it double digits?
91:44>> It's 12.1.
91:45>> Yeah, 12 >> 12.1. So, he's he's leaving. He's almost half his points.
91:50>> Half of his expected.
91:51>> Just like take what he's supposed to get, cut it in half. There's Jerry Judy.
91:55That's kind of impossible to like maintain. The reason I side like that is because I wrote up I wrote up Judy
92:02pretty positively um on the idea of dropback volume and just like this level of inefficiency is difficult is actually difficult to
92:13maintain like variance will help you out at some point. So yeah I mean I don't know I hadn't even thought of him for
92:20DFS. It's more like hey I think he's in wide receiver three consideration and reddraft. Uh what is he even priced? But
92:26I hadn't even considered him.
92:28>> He's four He's 41.
92:30>> Oh my god.
92:33>> I mean, it's warranted. It's warranted, >> dude. God damn. I think he's a good play.
92:41>> 4100.
92:43>> I mean, it's a definite football gods take the wheel play, but I believe I actually believe he's going to probably
92:49get double digit targets. I think it's like probable. against Pittsburgh, they had a 79% pass rate. So, like there is no exaggeration happening here when you
92:58talk about, you know, Dylan Gabriel just letting it letting them chuck it in that game. Um they dropped down last week to
93:0648%. They were 52% against the Vikings.
93:09>> Of course they did.
93:10>> Of course. Yeah. Against the Vikings, they're dealing with this incredible blitz in in um Gabriel's first start and I think they were just protecting him.
93:18But yeah, I mean the other thing too I talked about I think the Patriots will be okay here and be able to put up
93:25points. So they they should be able to push the Browns as well. Um I guess the one thing right that's tricky is that if you can't run the ball
93:34as the Browns and it's like you it's like obvious dropback situations for Gabriel >> then it's like you're it's like 12
93:42targets but what do those mean? You know, like when a target drops by your feet, you know, and you're kind of there
93:48was never a chance. You had to run just for it to get near your feet. Uh because he kind of just chucks it up.
93:56That shouldn't count. But I think we might get a couple of those.
93:59>> I'm just saying if you want to make a lineup to where you're somehow getting to big quality running backs or trying
94:05to jam in the you're doing the old team jamming.
94:08>> I do. I do want to do that. I think Judy is like one objectively one of the best plays per dollar in terms of
94:15opportunity. Now, I don't know what the hell you're going to get out of him, but I think in ter objective just
94:19opportunity for cost, I do believe he he's he would fit that build.
94:26>> Anytime you can play a guy who makes Chris Olive look like the most efficient receiver in the league on his
94:31opportunity, you got [laughter] to do it. It's a honestly, it's a good call.
94:35It's just so gross.
94:36>> It's the gross. So gross. Absolutely heinous, dude.
94:40>> Oh, >> it's really bad.
94:43>> 4-1 now. [laughter] >> God damn it. I'm going to play Jared Judy this week. Um, all right. Let's
94:53move to the do that after we talk about the grossest thing imaginable. Let's talk about >> as you transition.
95:00>> Arthur Juan officially ruled out.
95:03>> Okay. Okay. That that's gonna Devonte Smith.
95:07I mean, is he that could shift thing that could actually shift some stuff around where he has to be kind of chalky
95:14now, right? Like >> Oh, he's got 100. Yeah, >> he's reasonable.
95:17>> He's 5,900.
95:19So, that should move some stuff. Uh, guys in that same range. Let's see.
95:25Flowers is >> Flowers Flowers was already tracking to be kind of uh popping in Sims. So, >> yeah. And he's still he's still 500
95:34cheaper, so I people will still go there. Um, but I don't know. I mean, it should it should at least even it out a little
95:41bit.
95:41>> Yes.
95:43>> Drake London might not be so chalky now.
95:45He's >> a was 5'8, so he's like right on the line with a lav.
95:49>> Yep. No, I mean, if you can play No one's playing now. Like, you're telling me I can play Dvonte Smith in a in a
95:58good matchup with AJ Brown or Chris Lave?
96:03>> I'm not playing. [laughter] I'm not going to do it. real good spot for a lava, too.
96:06>> It is a good spot, but it's Spencer Rattler and, you know, >> correct.
96:12>> Yeah.
96:13>> You know, not splitting time, but he does. He's not going to be able to consolidate routes because she plays is
96:17what I mean.
96:18>> Um, >> I'm going to do it. I'm going to make a a lineup with those two running backs and just see who they give me. If I lock
96:24him. Does is Jerry Judy one of the dudes?
96:28>> It gives you Isaiah Bond.
96:32>> Oh, really?
96:35the note on Bond. I I don't think Bond's playable like he >> No, no, no. He Thrash Thrash was playing. Um Well, you can just do Jaylen
96:42Null. I don't think the null projections in because Nico Yeah, I don't think it's a juts yet. So, like if you would if
96:47you're going to build this. Okay, >> so the lineup I ran right now >> ended up being on DraftKings. Uh Bejian
96:53Robinson, Jonathan Taylor together, locked them in.
96:56>> You also gave me Derrick Henry.
96:59So, you have all >> the most anti-draft kings lineup ever.
97:03Three running back that well at least one of them catches passes.
97:07>> Uh Bo Knicks.
97:08>> Yeah.
97:09>> Uh Chris Alave, Dalton Schultz, and Rasheed Shahid. So then you would swap null for Bond. So it's like two. You'd
97:16have to do some jostling. But it's actually not even like the worst object.
97:19I thought it was >> so naked Bo Knicks.
97:22>> Saints double without Rattler. Naked Knicks. Wow.
97:26>> Sims have lost their minds. Yeah, absolutely. [laughter] >> Um, all right, let's talk about something even grosser than Jerry Judy
97:36to a tongue bya.
97:37>> That's a good zero percentile EPA per play last week. Uh, it was his lowest of the season as you would expect, but not
97:45by much. He was second percentile against the Colts in week one. Just absolute trash. um he was just getting the ball out super quick and to the
97:54other team just really like watching him you're just like what's going on man um >> but won't interceptions this week >> did you see that that Mike McDaniel
98:05>> they so I asked Mike McDaniel if >> if Tua [laughter and clears throat] would remain the starter he's like yeah
98:10we're going to start he's like I'm pretty sure he won't throw 10 interceptions this week [laughter] >> I was joking around I think Daniel is
98:19just spitballing. He says they're going to get Jaylen Wright involved. Like I He's This is like It's like um
98:29like a character who dies in a movie and just like then like inexplicably like returns, you know, in the second half
98:34and you're just it's like, you know, like [laughter] he's like there's no way McDaniel like thought he was going to be
98:40in this part of the Dolphins season, you know, it like he's having press conference. I think you don't fire them.
98:46Like you just you just make it go make everyone you just make everyone that's the punishment, right? You finish the year, man. You just finish the year.
98:53>> We're not even mercy killing this. Like you just do the you don't get a vac you don't get a vacation like through the
98:59year. Like when we're one and 12, you're still out here like doing press conferences cuz you can see he's just degraded every week. He's just
99:06progressively like lost life. Like >> he's mailing in the press conferences. I mean, that's he's just he's always rambled and stuff, but the rambling has
99:14gotten out of control. And Tu is just saying crazy stuff every time. He admitted to not being able to see over
99:21the line the other the other day. Uh that's >> Yeah, >> it's un that's unusual.
99:26>> To be fair, he did the same thing in the offseason.
99:29>> Did he? I missed that.
99:30>> Yeah. Like Perie was just talking about like how the like his uh he was like he's like I I make like 40% of my throws
99:36are trust throws on my pre-eread, like my read because like I'm so small. like I can't see over the guys.
99:42>> This is this is literally the human resources meme where like I think that's that's cool and and courageous of Brock
99:47Pury, but when Tua does it, it's great.
99:49>> I'll send I I'll send the clip out maybe and say like it's it's actually incredible. Like it he said it in like a
99:55way more like infrastructure type way of like understanding football than Tua like >> said it like well I just couldn't see
100:01anybody so I just threw that. [laughter] That's how Tua made it sound. Like Pertie was like no like I've had to like
100:07I've had to learn how to play football this way. like >> Yeah. Yeah.
100:10>> would like and I assume to it to a degree has as well. Uh because he's >> he's still working on it.
100:18>> Yeah.
100:18>> Was the way he phrased it.
100:19>> It's it's the I mean when the play is this bad you just it's >> but all of the Dolphins like the vibes
100:24are literally completely the this is fine meme. Like like they're all but like it's acknowledging like everything's on fire and we all see it
100:31and they have to keep telling us like as professionals it's not and but we all know and they know it and like we see
100:37through everything.
100:39the the thing like there's no reprieve here. The Falcons defense is awesome.
100:44They've really turned it around this year. The pass rush is great. They're blitzing.
100:49>> They play a style of football that takes the first read away.
100:52>> Yeah. Which is just >> Yeah. Not what you want. Yeah. The third most efficient team against first reads this season.
100:59>> Yeah. This is the whole Raheem Morris like we're going to play cover three like we're going to take your first read
101:04away.
101:05>> This is this is it, man. It's just terrible. It's bad news.
101:13>> There's not anything. There's nothing I can I can tell you that.
101:16>> Moving on to the Falcons. No. I mean, is there anything? There's nothing.
101:19>> I mean, listen, Aan's I think Aan's fine, especially with Waller being out.
101:23We know they're going to use in a pass game, but like I feel like is this a spot a Chan's going to get me 30? I
101:28don't.
101:30>> No, I don't either. Maybe, you know, maybe Mike McDaniel watched his, you know, watched Kyle Shanahan last week.
101:36It was like, we can do some of the same things in the run game and Han can and Han's at least indoors on turf. It could
101:41be fun, but >> on this slate, like we just think of the running backs we've already talked about. How am I squeezing him in?
101:51>> No, you're not. You're not playing him.
101:53Um, >> you have an 18point team total.
101:57>> Yeah. What about Wadd?
102:00>> Fine. 5,700 going to command targets.
102:03>> Again, I feel okay about the Dolphins guys in manage league stuff. I I I struggle for the upside because here's
102:09the problem with this game by big picture for if you want to run Dolphins stuff is they can't stop the run,
102:15dude. Like the Falcons are already opponents are already running the second fewest plays per game against them. Like this is dude, they're gonna have they I
102:24could see the Atlanta Falcons in this game with a banged up Michael Penn.
102:27Michael Pennix also, by the way, said he expects to start with a banged up Michael Penn against defense. What is the overunder on Bejian Robinson, Tyler
102:35Algier carries combined? Because in every win, Tyler Alier's double digit carries.
102:40>> Yeah.
102:41>> Like, dude, I just don't see the play volume.
102:43>> It might be like 31. Like, it's it's a lot.
102:46>> Yeah. Where's the play volume come? If they're not stopping this run game, which I don't believe they're going to, >> where's the play volume coming from? I
102:53think season long stuff, fine. Play these guys.
102:57Is the upside there for these guys?
103:00>> Season long, not not DFS. Season long, Malik Washington, I think, could maybe be in the mix as like a by-week fill in.
103:08Um, I noted >> he had 24% targets per hour run on last week, 26% against the Chargers, and his route participation was up to 76%.
103:17>> Julian Hill didn't practice on on uh Wednesday and Thursday, and Waller's out. So, you know, any hopes you had that Hill might step up, which are
103:25probably none anyway, uh, he might not even play. Um, so there's just and Nick Westbrook A hasn't been able to do
103:32anything like there's no I know it's a condensed offense, but they they need like a secondary weapon downfield. Um, and I think it's probably Washington
103:41now. So, >> as a by-week filling option, I I'll shout him out. Um, not a guy I've really been on previously, but I think
103:49everything's kind of broken his way to where he's viable now.
103:52>> They think with Smith out like I don't want to play Waddle. Just I'm going to play Smith for a couple hundred bucks
103:58more in DFS.
103:59>> Yeah. I mean, Falcons haven't no one's even thrown for more than 180 yards against them. And they haven't they have
104:04had a favorable run, but like that also includes Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen.
104:09>> Yeah.
104:11Yeah. Yeah, >> like they've played a lot of they've played a host of backups, but what is Tua right now? Is he not backup level?
104:17Like he's played awful >> and they don't have any and they don't have T like they don't they're down to two good players on offense.
104:25>> Yeah. And I I think the Falcons defense is is good.
104:29>> Like they they've they immediately flashed >> the beginning, you know, the very beginning of the year like, oh, they're doing like some new stuff and they're
104:35pressuring and um new new DC seems to have worked out really well. So >> yeah, I don't like it either. I wish
104:40they were bad.
104:44>> Well, because more fun for us like when you build up Yeah. When you build up the whole iceberg because this is like I
104:49think there actually is like if you drafted Drake London and I drafted a good amount of him. I think he's going
104:54to be like a wide receiver too the rest of the year or at least like cuz you have the splits with Mooney. The Falcons
105:01are awesome at running the ball. They're playing good defense. They're not running a lot of plays and then like their quarterback's not that great. Like
105:07it's there's a lot of things pulling away. I think for if you took London at the one two turn, I I don't think we're
105:14going to recoup rec recoup that value big picture. Um we'll always have >> Well, listen, I I don't have London because I have a bunch of Bowers, so it
105:20could it could be worse.
105:21>> Cool.
105:22>> At least your guys been out there.
105:23>> Yeah. And and and you're still, you know, you just have to ride or die with London, obviously, but like I don't
105:28think you can get to the receivers here with a banged up Pennix, their defense playing good in this matchup because like I just don't know where the pass
105:34volume's going to be.
105:37>> [snorts] >> Yeah, I mean obviously Bejan's a smash here um as he is every week >> and you're definitely even in manage
105:45leagues probably playing Alier.
105:49>> Yeah, you know, Neil Orfield mentioned him even as a DFS play in large field because he's cheap enough. Uh >> you need two touchdowns, but he could
105:59get them. He he actually has out he actually has out touched Robinson seven to four inside the 10 yard line >> and when um
106:08>> dude Algier's good too like you hand him the ball in a 13 like punch that in like he's anytime he's on the field near the
106:15end zone it's it's not good for Robinson. So, he's played he's played 35% of the offensive snaps when Atlanta's been ahead compared to 19%
106:23trailing, that all tracks. But, in the second half of games ahead, he goes to 45% uh snap share. So, if if we expect this
106:34to play out as implied >> on a week where there's a lot of gross and to be fair to him, like some of the
106:41guys we've talked about like don't really catch passes and are touchdown dependent, too. like he could even run down some guys in that range um of
106:49running back.
106:51>> Dude, how funny would it be if he outscores Derrick Henry [laughter] as a backup running back? It's it's plausible scores a couple touchdowns.
107:00>> But like there's like because like if you're trying to talk yourself into like maybe like a Chase Brown this week
107:04because they play the Jets and they're have game script like >> what's the real difference, man? What's the real difference?
107:13>> Carrie share. I'm cur Oh, here's a good one for you. Uh maybe that's probably more is JK Dobbins versus Tyler Algier.
107:22>> That's a that's honestly like a very kind of similar You're JK Dobbins is just I think he can score two
107:27touchdowns. That's it.
107:30>> But people are going to play Dobbins.
107:32>> Yeah, they are. He's the other guy I was going to mention as a potential pivot in the in the Woody Mark zone. But like how
107:39how really far off is Algier from JK Dobbins?
107:44>> Maybe not that far. Yeah, you need a very specific game script and you need those touchdowns. It's It's definitely thin because
107:54>> Yeah, like Dobbins can get there going to be the guy out there.
107:58>> Yeah.
107:59>> Um >> it has to be large field.
108:01>> It has to be large field for sure, which I don't really play. So, uh, but Neil does and and he was he was saying he's
108:08he's thinking about him, so it's it's definitely viable. Um, anything else before we go to Jets at Bengals?
108:16>> No. I mean, I'll just say like I think that that that Alier though is the the tiebreaker for me between Taylor and
108:23Robinson. If you have to twist my arm to only play one, if you're like, Rich, I can only play one. Where's your lean?
108:29>> I would choose Taylor because he doesn't share anything inside the 10.
108:35He doesn't share anything at all.
108:37>> He doesn't leave the field.
108:40>> I mean, Bejian actually has the receiving out. That's like a a Trump that's like his spade is like the dude.
108:45His receiving stuff is immaculate.
108:48>> So, >> yeah, >> there's there's an outcome though where actually Bejian has 150 total yards and no touchdowns, though.
108:57>> Yeah. And I mean there's there's outcomes where they just like aren't pushed at all. This could be a threequarter game for sure.
109:05Like the Dolphins, it it's so bad.
109:09>> But Bejian is a great play. Don't again take that.
109:11>> He is a great play. He's a great play.
109:12>> I would say if you if you're you can only pick one. I'm only playing whatever. Who is the tiebreak? I do
109:19tiebreak the Taylor.
109:21>> Me too. Me too. And partly because one of the things that Bejian definitely has on Taylor is the huge target share 21%
109:31with uh with 2.27 yards per out run. Um that's a big time edge on Taylor, but it just it's like this game environment is
109:41is less likely for him to win that way or to need to be used that way and absolutely crush Taylor through the
109:47receiving usage. So very very very strong play though. Uh, Jets at Bengals.
109:55Do we still not know who's starting?
109:57>> Uh, a competitive advantage, sir.
110:00>> So, I I said, uh, you know, they're they're talking they're doing owners meetings. Woody Johnson's calling out as quarterback and everything. And, uh, I I
110:09proposed a new rule change, which is that you're allowed you're still allowed to play Koi with your naming your quarterback starter, but you have to win
110:16one game before you're eligible. Is that >> good rule?
110:21I mean, this is the most I mean, he's definitely going to be one and done, right, Aaron Glenn?
110:27>> 100%. Like, he he how how can he not be?
110:31>> Like, this is >> this team doesn't have the morale is is gone. Like, this team, they don't want to be out there.
110:37>> It's just isn't this just isn't serious stuff.
110:42>> They They're They're They're plagued by penalties. They They >> It's like Urban Meyer [ __ ] dude. This is like Urban Meyer stuff.
110:49>> It really is. They they give up in these games. Like they just straight up like run the ball. Like they're down like 12
110:56points and it's like they're they have like an eight minute drive and kick a field goal. Like this team is just
111:02absolutely brutal.
111:03>> And I just can't shove or shake that picture of him just dancing on the sideline after that field goal return.
111:09Like that's going to live forever for like that's going to be his leg.
111:12>> It's going to be his [laughter] leg.
111:18>> Well, he gave us that. He gave us that.
111:20>> And and the Lions defense is better without him.
111:23>> That's the other thing that's been rough.
111:25>> It's all bad, man.
111:28>> Yeah.
111:29>> We want Tyrod to start, though.
111:31>> I guess you know what, man?
111:34>> Tyrod sucks.
111:36>> I I don't disagree.
111:38>> EPA per game just a hair better than Fields. Success rate worse. Worse than Fields this year. His time to throw
111:47longer longer than Fields. He's at 3.19 second time to throw. Only Caleb Williams has been longer. Fields is at 3.13. So, he's holding the ball for over
111:56two. The Jets quick pressure. I've I've heard nice things about the Jets tackles and stuff. Jets offensive line has in terms of the performance this year has
112:05been abysmal. They're dead last and quick pressure rate allowed. Dead last and pressure rate allowed. The pressure is on the quarterbacks to some extent
112:12because they both hold the ball forever.
112:14But the quick pressure is not if you're getting pressure in under two and a half seconds like that really isn't on the
112:19quarterback and the Jets are allowing that at the highest rate in the league.
112:22So to you know it's it's both.
112:24>> These guys can't get rid of the ball >> against the Carolina Panthers.
112:28>> Yeah, man. But it's both. It's like they I'm not excusing the quarterback play.
112:32The quarterback play has been really bad. But they also can't block.
112:38No, I I had this uh uh well, I tweeted this on Monday, but I did the Jets the pressure rate of the defenses that they
112:46have against the Jets and then their pressure rate versus removing the Jets from their pressure [laughter] rate.
112:50>> This is fun. Yeah, >> it's absolutely, dude. It is because again, like they played the Panthers, dude, who couldn't get a sack for their
112:57lives coming into Sunday and they have six sacks.
113:01>> Their pressure rate is 10% higher against the Jets. The Broncos even who we know get pressure. They had a a 17%
113:07jump in pressure uh against the Jets.
113:10The Cowboys plus 10%. The Miami Dolphins plus 26% pressure rate uh against them.
113:17The Buccaneers plus 12% against the Jets. The Bills plus 12%. The Steelers in week one were the only team that had
113:25a lower pressure rate against the Jets than everyone else. And like that we got hoodwinkedked again, man. I I even I
113:30remember being so excited in week one. I was like, "Wow, Tanner is doing all these things for Justin Fields that no
113:35no no one else did for him. Where did all that go?
113:38>> Where where where did it go?
113:41>> All that motion, all that motion, the quick passing game that was there in week one, we've never seen it again.
113:47>> It's never it's never been a part of the offense.
113:50>> I mean, I I've been like really unimpressed with with Eggstrand for most of the season." Yeah. It's I forgot that
113:56we at one point were a little optimistic. [laughter] feel it felt like just was another year, man. And >> yeah, I mean, the one thing I think is
114:06with Taylor, you're more likely to get passing volume, but that's not really about Taylor. That's just about their total lack of confidence in fields. But
114:13also, like, who cares? Like Josh Reynolds is your number one receiver. He had a 21% targets per out run last last week with
114:2393% routicipation and uh 0.69 yards per hour run. Arian Smith has had 72% and 93% rap participation over the last two
114:33weeks. Has not recorded a single yard.
114:36>> Incredible.
114:37>> Mason Taylor's probably going to miss the game.
114:40>> Tyler Johnson led the team in receiving on 11 routes.
114:49>> Honestly, I kind of hope they just sit down Bree, trade him. That's what I was Well, that's where I was going to we
114:54were going to get to is like is there any confidence? Like it's a glowing matchup for him, but like they're going
115:00to the buy. Do they trade him? Do they not? Is it does he get run? Like it's such a like last week we weren't in the
115:08Bruce Hall when he was looking to be kind of chalky because we we didn't like the matchup and everything and like it's
115:13the complete inverse here. Like >> man, >> what do we do with this week? What do we do with him? Do you play him at all?
115:20I'll talk myself into him if I like Bree Hall enough that I'll talk myself into him if he's if he's good to go. But I
115:26don't think it's it's good that I'm going to do that.
115:29>> Yeah, >> I don't think it's >> they have a Bengals RB1 score, four straight games, Jordan Mason, RJ Harvey, Josh Jacobs, Jaylen Warren. So, it's not
115:35even like elite dudes outside Josh Jacobs. Um they're getting flooded on inside zone, which is Bree Hall. Uh he's fourth in the NFL on inside zone run
115:44rate. The Bengals are 31st against those runs.
115:48But it's is what are we what are we doing?
115:53>> He's going to show up in the Sims and I'm going to be like I guess I just got to play him. I don't I don't see what
115:58else I can do than play Buris Hall. But um you know we can play trade him.
116:04>> We can play the Bengals though.
116:07>> We can play the Bengals for sure. Joe Flacco man.
116:11>> I like him.
116:12>> Slinging it.
116:13I like him.
116:14>> That throw he had to T. Higgins where it was like that that tight window over the middle. That's that's nice. You just you
116:21like to see that Browning has been so bad. Flaco's bringing some real life to this to this team in a way I didn't
116:27think he would. He sucked. He sucked for the Browns, but he's been really good, >> dude. He's He's made the offensive line
116:33look good, which I mean that was the best almost offensive line performance we've seen the Bengals have last week. I mean, he's only been pressured on 27%
116:41and 34% of his drop backs. That's eighth and 13th best. And that was facing the Packers and the Steelers.
116:47>> Like, he's he's his time to throw last week was second fastest in the league.
116:51The week before that, he had the fastest time to throw. Um, and then he also has the seventh best inaccurate throw rate
116:57those two weeks. Again, reiterating against the Packers and Steelers. Now he's facing a team that is 31st in pressure rate despite blitzing at the
117:07seventh highest rate in the league.
117:08Again, Aaron Glenn, what are you doing?
117:10They're 29th in passing points allowed per game and they're not going to have sauce Gardner this week already ruled out. And also like because this is a
117:18spot where you look at the Bengals and you're like this is where they finally get something out of Chase Brown, right?
117:22Like what if they can't run because the Jets actually like the complete overlap.
117:27>> The Jets have actually played the run well. It's like the only calling card they have. they actually should think about playing the run worse. They should
117:34think about giving up more yardage rushing because it's forcing teams to throw on them and like they can't get sacks and they're getting crushed
117:41through the air. Um like it's actually it is making them look like not worse exactly but more frustrating because they keep being in
117:50these games where like a normal team would win, you know, like they they're like holding the other team to like 10
117:56or 13 points and then they're losing. So just it doesn't be better off getting blown out.
118:02>> I used to say this about the Aaron Glenn Lions and I it just didn't register right now when before last year like
118:09remember the Lions always had like these awesome run defenses but they were just they would get killed in the pass game.
118:14It's like have you thought about just giving up some rushing yards? Just give up some rushing yards and make them not
118:20This is what's happening. And now you don't have S Gardner >> against Jamar Chase and T. Higgins like what if the Bengals like cuz it again
118:28like what if they just have to go throw the football to score points. This is what they have to do.
118:33>> Well, they don't have to. The Bengals don't ever need to pass to pass. They they had a 71% pass rate against the
118:39Steelers, 10% above expected. Um Zack Taylor like he he is very consistent like they they throw the ball. They they had Joe Flacco in his
118:49first game with the Bengals where he had less than a week to prepare against the Packers pass 73% of the time. Like th
119:00this is a really committed team. It's not a Burrow thing. It's a Taylor thing.
119:05They throw the ball. So I don't know that you need to be pushed here at all.
119:09Like you could you could have, >> you know, 68% pass rate here with the Bengals winning, you know, by 14 points.
119:18>> Yeah, I want I want to play Flaco doubles, >> but in the running back slate, it's hard to play Jamar Chase, too. Like,
119:25>> yeah, >> we talk about I think if you're playing Jamar Chase, >> you got to play Chase. You got to play
119:29Chase if you're doing that, I think, right?
119:30>> Oh, yeah. If you're playing Flacco, I think you always play Chase anyways. You don't necessarily have to do the double
119:34because it's expensive, but you're probably doing the outcome of what we talked about. If you're playing the Flaco doubles, you're probably not
119:41playing that might be the spot where you don't play the running backs and you're doing a Derrick Henry. Can you I don't
119:47know if you can fit Seaquan in that because Chase is so expensive, but that might be the path to where you're doing
119:54those. But this is like when you start to think through the lineups and then you're like you end up to go into like
119:58Woody Marks there. You you do realize kind of the absurdity of trying in a week and we'll get to Taylor, but it's
120:04like the it's not just these guys have a high ceiling. They have like Yeah, he scored 45 points. Like of course he did,
120:11you know, >> right?
120:12>> Woody Marks, you're bringing Woody Marks to a 45 point Jonathan Taylor gunfight, you know? So >> yeah, to be fair I mean to be fair like
120:20Henry Henry has that too. It's just >> Henry does have that >> as uh >> he just he just accesses it way less
120:28frequently.
120:29>> Let me see. I'm going to do not with T.
120:30Higgins and just see what the first thing spits out. And it actually has Bejan in it. Oh, this is a [ __ ] fire
120:38team, dude. Listen to this. All right.
120:39So, first one I did flack. Just Flacco and Chase, not the double.
120:42>> Flaco, Bejan, Dererick Henry, Jaylen Null with the projections updated, Chris Ave, Jamar Chase, Dalton Schultz, Rashad White, Bengals D. Like that's a pretty
120:52good lineup.
120:54>> That's a pretty good lineup. And I like the I like the Bengals D with uh >> with Flaco and and and Chase. That that
121:01makes sense. I see that script. That script makes sense to me.
121:04>> Yeah. Don't dupe that. If I if I put T.
121:07Higgins in with the double, it just removes Bejon to James Cook and it's the same exact lineup.
121:14>> That's a good lineup, too.
121:16>> So they So you can build Flaco doubles is what we're saying. That's basically what it came to. Uh, will that be the
121:22exact Flaco double I build? Maybe not.
121:25Because again, we talked about like Dvonte Smith is in that price range, but like those are pretty decent lineups that spit out. Way better than that
121:30first one we did where we tried to jam Taylor and Bejon together.
121:35>> Honestly, one of my takeaways there too is that Chase should be like pretty big. I mean, I know he's going to be chalk, but I I
121:43think >> but I don't think he will be because of the running backs.
121:47>> Because the running back's going to keep him in check. Yeah.
121:49>> Yeah. But Chase like he is getting absolutely fed and I'm I I kind of want to make sure I have some of him this
121:58week. So they're so the Jets actually are uh they already said to Aaron Glenn because for some reason he want wanted
122:07uh to to disclose this competitive advantage uh for some reason because again nothing he says ever makes sense but he already said that the player
122:15starting for uh S Gardner is their third round rookie as a was it Azar Thomas and he's only played 18 snaps all year and
122:24he's going to be guarding freaking Jamar Chase. Welcome. Welcome to the NFL, brother.
122:30>> Wow.
122:33Just just tell us your starting quarterback. Just making everyone's We have to write this stuff up, Aaron.
122:39>> It's again again any nothing he does is it's all it's a joke, dude.
122:46It's an absolute joke. If I was if I was a Jets fan, I'd just be like I remember when I um I was rooting for the Patriots
122:56obviously, which I hate I used to hate the Patriots, but I was rooting for them because of Drake May. And hearing people
123:03defend the idea of needing to give Gerard Mayo second year would just like like in my soul I just be like like and
123:12I guess with the the Jets you don't have they it's like what is the what's the f what is even the future
123:21like what do you do need to get rid of Glenn like he's he's he's building a culture but it's a bad
123:27culture so he's got to go. Um, but yeah, I mean it's like then you have like some good players on defense and then what?
123:34Hall's a free agent. They should probably trade him. Um, Garrett Wilson's good, but not enough. I mean, he's kind of the waddle to their Dolphins. It's
123:43bleak, man.
123:44>> It's very bleak, man.
123:48>> All that's left is Chase Brown. You can tell me what you're doing with him and then we could just we can move into the
123:51slate slate and close this thing down.
123:54>> Uh, Chase Brown, I don't think I'm gonna be playing in in DFS. good uh good run defense he's going against. Not the
124:02engine of the offense. Um I I want if I'm playing Bengals, I want to play Chase.
124:07>> Yes, >> that's really what it is.
124:10>> 100%.
124:10>> All right, Buccaneers. It's Saints.
124:13Baker Mayfield coming off a really rough game. Uh loses Mike Evans. Uh Amecha Buka is playing through a hamstring injury. He's missed practice again this
124:22week. Uh will play but clearly not 100%.
124:25We're looking at Tez Johnson, Sterling Shepard, and Ibuka as his receivers.
124:31Kate Attton potentially stepping up here depending on how healthy IKA is. Rashad White's still the back. Uh this is not a
124:39good rushing matchup, which makes things a little tougher for White, but he'll get tons of volume. And I've seen Mayfield projecting pretty well here,
124:49you know, with the Saints being a pretty pretty soft matchup. So, this is kind of a get-right spot for for Baker after um
124:55you know, the the Lions really inefficient performance, but he still does have issues with the receivers. So, it feels like a little bit fragile to me
125:03from you know, Baker stacks are definitely viable, but I'm not sure I'm as excited about them um as maybe some others in the industry. [snorts]
125:12>> Yeah, I'm saying for from a DFS perspective, I'm more interested in the the the alleart pieces. I think probably just white and um Eggbuka. Uh, I'm fine
125:21with Tez for season long stuff. I don't necessarily love him here. Um, I do think it's it's not like a glowing
125:27matchup in terms of like a great rushing defense, but I think it's at a significantly better spot than what Rashad Whites had since he's taken over.
125:34Uh, you know, Seahawks, 49ers, Lions with that offensive line. They just were never going to like you were never going to get any efficiency against those
125:41defenses. I don't even think Bucky Irving would have had a very like a lot of efficiency rushing. Um, so Saints are
125:4826 in success rate against the run and they've gotten worse as the season's gone on. Like we've started to see them
125:53like like give up some pretty good games here. Obviously, both Bears backs kind of got there against them last week. We
125:59saw James Cook a couple weeks ago, too.
126:00Uh, Scataboo had a nice combo game and like Rashad White saw offers that combo scoring. It's the most optimistic I've been about White since he's taken over.
126:08Um, do I think he's like a smash play?
126:10No. I just think he's in a better spot than he's been in uh since he took over.
126:14That's really kind of my pitch. And teams are running on the Saints. Yeah, >> it's like really my pitch and Yeah. Like
126:19they're going to win the game probably.
126:20It's like >> Right.
126:21>> Um Yeah, that's really that's really my pitch is just like that's that's the antithesis of it.
126:29>> I don't know, man. It was like how strong was that?
126:34>> It's tough. It's tough to get overly excited about Rashad White because >> he's that kind of play. Yeah.
126:39>> Yeah. It's just that like hey man, he's going to get all the work but he really really will. He had a 91% snap share
126:46against the Lions, 83% of carries, 76% of routes. He's at a 13% target share in each of the last three weeks. Um, yeah,
126:55he's he's the backfield. He is a backfield, which is always nice. So, he's a guy that doesn't seem he's I imagine he'll be reasonably high owned
127:05in the sense like he fits a lot of different builds, but he's not a priority for anybody.
127:09>> He's going to be the Sims dude.
127:12>> Yeah. Yeah. like last week's Breeze Hall but in a better spot. But like his projection is just going to look like
127:17people will get there because the projection will be the median projection is going to be too strong, >> right? And it's going to be like I'm
127:24definitely like I'm like locking Taylor or whatever and then like whites in that lineup. So like you didn't even it's not
127:31like you wanted line that lineup to have white necessarily, but he like he's going to help make some of these other
127:35these other lineups work. So, >> right.
127:39If if anyone's using any type of like uh Sims, he's going to he's just going to default. I think show up in that like
127:45he's going to show up.
127:47>> I think you're right. Which I mean, you could get off of it because it's not >> Yes, you can.
127:53>> Yeah, it's just the the tricky part with White is that he does get used around the goal line. Um, it's dude, the life
128:00cycle of this stuff is so funny because I was huge into Rashad White when he was a rookie because I was like, look,
128:06people don't get like this guy's big.
128:08It's You think he's a satellite back?
128:10He's not. He's like 217 pounds. Like, this is more like Charles Sims or Bucky Irving or some one of these guys. Uh,
128:17Bucky Irving. Buck Buck Allen. Uh, I didn't even know about Bucky Irving at the time. Buck, you know, Buck Allen, one of these bigger dudes that
128:24>> Buck Allen, >> yes, you catch the ball, but like you don't have to come off, you know, in short yardage stuff. And then,
128:32>> you know, a couple years into his career, he's he's getting all the work.
128:34And then it's like, but he's staying.
128:36>> That's what finally happened with Jaylen.
128:37>> Lucky Irving.
128:39>> Yeah. Yeah.
128:40>> Well, Warren's undersized, but he's he's so compact.
128:44>> He's thick. But >> it's a little different. Yeah.
128:47>> Yeah. He's >> Yeah, >> but he's always people always do the Jaylen Warren's Austin Eckler and I'm like, dude, he's
128:5320 pounds heavier than Austin Eckler.
128:56>> Yeah. Although he is that little like >> smaller. You don't think you see Warren and like you're like, "Oh, he's not."
129:02And then, you know, he just can like really put, you know, he he it's all muscle. Uh but yeah, anyway, Rashad
129:09White, it's not I'm no longer excited about this because uh Bucky Irving is better and I wish he were healthy, but
129:17um that's White White gets everything, you know, because he's he's big. He's actually big. He's good uh or good enough around the goal line. So pretty
129:26he he's to like he's a one of these guys who's like totally fine even as a chalk piece. I'm not excited about it, but I I
129:33will end up playing him some.
129:36Um the passing game I guess I'm a little bit more torn on because I like clearly not healthy, right?
129:44>> Well, he did practice in full. Uh okay.
129:48On Wednesday, like he missed Tuesday, then came back Wednesday and was like just practicing. And that tracks because like >> I thought he was
129:54>> he still was on the field for like 82% of the dropbacks last on Monday. like when we didn't even think he was gonna
130:00play.
130:00>> He he was limited Wednesday or sorry, Thursday, but he did practice in full today.
130:05>> Yeah. So, he seems like he's a go like a go- go.
130:10>> Okay. That definitely encou that that is encouraging that full practice cuz like he was like truly >> iffy for Monday and played through it.
130:19>> Well, it feels too like they're just like playing with fire. Like the way their season's gone like we're going to
130:26risk it. They're like, "Yeah, we are."
130:31>> And you know, Baker's been talking about how he hates the Saints. They haven't exactly played clean. You know, when we've played him, he said,
130:38>> "Yep." Yep.
130:39>> He's like, "I just don't like him."
130:40>> And it's And the matchup signals like all like Bua, too. Like, we've talked about the man zone stuff with him all
130:46year. No matter what side you get on, you get separation or not, it doesn't matter because it's man. And that happened on Monday. It happened again.
130:52Uh he only got one of caught one of five targets against man coverage on Monday.
130:57Um he's at 0.72 yards per hour running against man coverage, 2.66 yards per round against zone coverage. Saints 26 in rated man coverage. They basically
131:06live in cover three, cover four, and against those looks, he's got 42% of team air yards, two and a half yards per
131:11out run. Saints also just giving up the bag to wide receiver ones this year. Uh 30th in the league in yards for target
131:18allowed to wide receiver ones.
131:21Feels like a pretty good spot.
131:25Are you looking to stack this up with with Mayfield?
131:29>> Not really because I don't think I Mayfield's going to make my pool.
131:32>> Okay.
131:33>> Um I think I've told you like I'm typically usually like a four to five QB guy and I think my four my five is going
131:40to be uh Nick Stack and we'll get to those guys. Uh Jaylen Herz, Lamar, and Joe Flacco.
131:51>> Joe Flacco making that. That feels like a dog to make that list, but but there he is. So you So Flaco at 5,400 compared
132:00to uh like Williams at 56. Uh >> I have no problem with Williams though either because I like that game. I might
132:08actually make an inverse like you said do one single entry inverse of that game like uh um we talked about doing both
132:15sides. I think I probably will do that actually. But like guys, I'm gonna have like that will probably just a one
132:21lineup one.
132:22>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
132:23>> I'll probably do a Flaco double or I'll probably do a Flaco double and a Flacco single with iterations kind of what we
132:31did. Um and maybe do that where it's actually four different versions of it where it's Bejon and Taylor like to see
132:39if which one if one significantly beats the other. Like I won't force either one. I'll make a build with Taylor and a
132:44build with Bean.
132:46It's tough to find savings. So I I I the flacko call is pretty interesting because you do save a decent amount. You
132:55save a thousand from Mayfield for example. Um >> and I think I'm just going to play I think I'm just going to play white and I
133:04alakart.
133:07>> Do you have any interest in TZ?
133:10>> Very mild more seasonl long stuff. I have no like because he's like him and Sterling Shepard are like doing like the
133:15dual thing where they're both playing like inside outside like there's no clear like defined role. They're like >> trading off 50/50 slot inside. I would
133:23love for just one of the dudes to be just a strict in a strict position to have more >> because that's the one things people
133:30look at like I know there's excitement to have for TZ but like also like Sterling Shepard's getting enough to be a thorn.
133:37>> For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And you can always save a couple hundred bucks and go down to Jerry Judy. [laughter]
133:45>> How crazy is that? That's not a joke.
133:47He's $200 more than Judy.
133:49>> Yeah, he is. He is. And like Jerry Judy J's Jerry Judy probably projects to have double the amount of targets than Ted
133:55Johnson.
133:57>> That's wild.
133:58Oh man.
134:00>> At least Jerry Judy's now popping in Sims.
134:03>> He's Yeah, he might. You're gonna have to really bully bully the Sims to get Judy, I think. Um, >> I gotta be honest. I'm gonna play Judy,
134:11though.
134:12>> I think I am. I'm also I'm also gonna play Judy. [laughter] >> Don't tell anyone.
134:20>> Uh, Saint signed. Um, Grock said we were really high on Derek Carr last last week. Someone [laughter] someone asked Grock what we talked about and he said
134:32Derek Car stacks.
134:34>> Yep.
134:36Um, are you into Derek Carr again this week?
134:39>> No, but I think fine. I Hyo Hyo made a great pitch to do Rattler doubles again.
134:45Um, and he he had the wizard la he was the wizard last week. He was the one that said Nicks Knicks and Mims was the
134:51move.
134:52>> Uh, so uh I mean it's a game where I think Rattler like it's he's going to throw a ball 40 times I think in this
134:59game. So I that's where it is, right? Um because I don't think they're going to be able to line up and run the ball in
135:05this game. Like down Kendry Miller, down Eric McCoy against this defense. Like I just don't see any way they run the ball. So
135:15I could definitely see a ma massive drop that game. So that's the path. Um now and he stood up to pressure pretty well.
135:21So if you're like worried about like the Todd Bulls blitz stuff like >> Well, I'm more worried about what McCoy McCoy calls the protections.
135:28>> Yeah. So that that could really hurt in this game.
135:32>> Yeah, I'm worried about the just the seal. We just haven't had a ceiling for him is my kind of one reason why I'm not
135:38excited about it.
135:40>> And another guy that like I'm cool with either playing either receiver though.
135:43Like >> uh I mean it's it's a it's a great spot for a lav like I mean his usage is just
135:50so good. And now they're throwing the ball downfield. We have to we have to strip the like redacted the Jacobe Myers
135:56cup gone. Like it's >> Yeah, >> it's redacted. He's like 35% of his targets the past two weeks are 20 or
136:04more yards downfield. And like if he's going to get those targets, like everything else already was there, dude.
136:10He is 47% of the team's end zone targets. That's fifth in the NFL. He's been targeted on a career-high 29% of
136:19his routes. He's playing 38% of snaps in the slot. He's get 43 targets this year with pre- snap motion. Like it's third
136:25in the NFL. Like everything is there.
136:27And then in this game, he has against the Blitz, he has a 37% target share and a 49% share of the air yards with just
136:34under four yards per outr run. And like the Bucks against wide receiver ones, Jackson Smith and Jigba 8 for 132.
136:40Garrett Wilson 10 for 84. Almond 6 for 86. Kendrick Bourne 5 for 140. Like what are you gonna do, man? I know he's
136:49chalky like he's going to show up in all your sims and stuff. Like it's a good play again. Like what are you gonna do?
136:55>> Yeah. So, Hassan Reic is out for this game and Vita Vea is out is out for this game.
137:03Vea report >> or sorry, I shouldn't say out. He's questionable, but he dmpped again today.
137:10>> Um, >> okay. Yeah, I knew he was out.
137:11>> And he showed up on the injury report on Thursday, so it might I should look into this, but he may have injured it in
137:19practice because no designation DNP DNP with a foot.
137:24Um, but yeah, sorry. He's officially questionable, so we'll see. Reic is out.
137:29Um, it looked like it could be worse.
137:31Like Winfield was missing practice earlier in the week. He he got a full practice today, so he'll be all right.
137:36Um, and then Levante David was a DNP and then an LP and he practiced in full today, so he'll be all right. But, um,
137:43potentially being out Vea is is a pretty big deal. Um, >> yeah, >> best best pass rusher on the defensive line.
137:51>> Uh, >> he's so good, man.
137:53>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, if if they're out Vea, like that that definitely makes this more interesting, especially with them out their center. Um, kind of
138:01mitigates that a little bit. And then, um, you know, this is a tough, this is going to be a t match up either way
138:09because of the scheme and BS has been, it seems like they're like able to do more of what they want this year.
138:14They've been a little more sound on the back end. Um but yeah, I mean Olave Olave is still a positive aggression candidate. Like he's
138:25still after the last two weeks where he's been cooking uh it is at minus two fantasy points over expected per game.
138:33So I mean that that's 17 percentile that's you know he's leaving a lot of points on the table. Like his expected
138:38points per game are 17.1 97th percentile at wide receiver. Like the role really has been awesome. it supports what's been happening over the last two weeks.
138:47Um, >> yeah, the only thing I was tearing down like weekly with him was just like it was the low A dot stuff and I was like,
138:54you know, and then then and now he's just beating dudes downfield and it's like, all right, that was it. That was
138:58the last piece.
139:00>> 14.9 AD last week. Yeah. Or no, sorry, that was Shahed. What did Olive was at 20.3 that sold him short.
139:07>> Um, and 12.1 against the Patriots. So yeah, I I >> I'm happy to see it, too, because this is a player that I've like that we
139:15didn't have the fantasy results with for previous years, but he's good, man.
139:19>> I was like hell bent like this is a good player. Like he had over two yards per hour run on every year of his career.
139:23I'm like this is clearly a good football player and we just didn't have the fantasy intersection. So, I I want to be
139:28good because people >> the list I I wrote an article up on him uh in the offseason and the list of guys
139:35that have had two yards per hour run every year of their career in their first three seasons >> is nuts. Like it is it is a crazy crazy
139:44I'll end up pulling up here in a second, but it's it's yeah, it's wild. But yeah, I'm happy for a lobby to finally be
139:50producing. And what do you think about him in terms of ownership with Dvonte Smith opening up? I mean, he >> Yeah, it'll be it'll be something to
139:57follow. I mean, I think you can play both. I think both guys could be just you can play both, right? Like, if
140:01you're not if you're going to pay up for these running backs, they do I think those guys are going to fit those builds
140:06like really well.
140:08>> Yeah, >> because if Z Flowers was already popping at the same like right like he's more bankable. I like S Flowers a lot too,
140:15but >> I like S Flowers a lot too.
140:17>> But like you got mid the mid fives guys.
140:20>> Yeah. By the way, here is this list. Uh Odo Beckham, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Michael Thomas, Cooper Cup, AJ Brown,
140:31Debo Samuel, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, and Chris Olive. The guys still eligible uh were Puka Nakua who will do it. Um Jaden Reed who won't, Brian
140:43Thomas who won't, Lad Maki, who probably won't, and Malik Neighbors, who now won't. So yeah, it's a pretty pretty exclusive list that Puka Naku is going
140:52to join. Um, and Chris Lave is already on.
140:56>> Yeah.
140:57>> So, >> good good player, man. Happy to see it.
140:59>> Good player. Good player. Uh, >> and I don't know why they would trade him. Like, I know his name's come up,
141:05but like they already picked up his fifth year option.
141:06>> That was strange. Yeah, >> cuz Bree Hall has no option. Like, Bree Hall is just a free agent next year.
141:11Like, so they'd So, they'd have to tag him. The Saints already picked up a fifthear option. Like, they they have we
141:18have wiggle room. Like, why would you trade him? The other thing with OB is that because of the concussions, you're not going to get what you would normally
141:24get, >> right?
141:26>> So, and that could be nothing because we did it with Devonte Adams.
141:32>> It could be. Yeah. But I think another team like I think you're talking about like like an early second maybe for him.
141:42>> Yeah, they're probably teams are probably pitching threes.
141:45>> They're pitching threes. They're like, you know, that's what Pickkins went for.
141:48I'll give you I'll give you the pickings, but I don't think I I wouldn't do that if I were the Saints.
141:53>> No, I wouldn't either, especially just because you have control for another year. Like, you don't you don't have to get you don't have to extend him yet.
142:00>> Right. Right. And he's worth extending.
142:03So, >> Shahed is the guy that that seems plausible to trade because he's a UFA UFA this year.
142:09>> Yeah.
142:11Right. [sighs] But at the same time, like I don't know what what shouldn't you extend Shahed?
142:15If you have good receivers in house and you just trying to keep them, >> I would I would just I would just say
142:20like if you were going to trade one, it makes objectively like if you're going to if you're just trying to get a crew
142:24futures like it makes more sense to trade Shahid than than a lava.
142:28>> How is the team that's that's extended Taesm Hill not gotten a deal done with Rashid Shahid? Like also a joke.
142:34>> It's Mickey Lumis. There's always money in the banana stand. Like this dude is never he doesn't care. He just gives
142:39away contracts. Like it doesn't matter.
142:41They the Saints are perpetually every year they're like how are the Saints get into the cap? It's like Mickey Loom is
142:46like, "Watch this [ __ ] I got like >> I'm going to convince Derek Carr to retire and give us the money back." So,
142:51>> watch me restructure 42 contracts this off seasonason. Like every year, man, the people are like, "Saints are 20 million over the cap next year." And
142:57it's like, "Yeah, dude. They're not They'll be fine." Mickey L.
143:00>> They still have Michael Thomas on the cap.
143:02>> They're going to still sign a guy for a contract. You're like, "How do they do this?" [laughter] >> Oh, man.
143:09>> Yeah. I mean, they drafted Tyler Shuck.
143:12Um, so they're they're not like total wizards, but >> Oh, no. He they're not wizards. I I mean Mickey Luma should have tore this thing
143:18down a while ago. Yeah. One of their biggest problems was he keeps finding money in the banana stand. [laughter] >> Think that [ __ ] needs to burn down, bro.
143:25Like you got >> Yeah. Much like the [clears throat] actual banana stand.
143:29>> Exactly.
143:31>> Alvin Chimera here with Kendrick Miller tearing his ACL. He had 84% of snaps last week. and Devin Neil will probably
143:38mix in some, but like I don't know for seasonl long stuff I would say more than DFS. What are your thoughts on Chimera?
143:44>> Yeah, I mean when McCoy got hurt last year, he just died.
143:48>> So I don't, >> you know, with McCoy off the field last season, he went to 3.1 yards per carry with an explosive run on 5% of his runs.
143:57>> Um, and the Bucks, we'll see who's up, but you know, Bucks are a good run defense, too. This would be more of like
144:02you're looking for the PPR suckout for Chimera. Uh, >> and he doesn't have a touchdown since week one. And we don't actually don't
144:11even know if he's the goal line back anymore because they've got Taesm Hill.
144:16>> Last time the Saints ran the ball from the one yard line, it was Taesm Hill.
144:21>> Good lord. All right, let's go to the Cowboys at Broncos.
144:26>> There's a [laughter] lot I feel we've had a lot of games and that's sighing.
144:32Jack not last last week we were more excited about some of these game environments. Um >> what's a lot of these one-sided just
144:38onesided >> lot of one side. Yeah.
144:40>> This one this is this is like the game environment right and >> yeah you should we did it again. You
144:45should have saved this one for last. We should call Titans.
144:48>> Do you want to We can do it. We can do Cold Titans >> cuz didn't we do this last thing? We
144:51did. We did.
144:53Okay.
144:54>> Yeah. Let's do Cult Titans first. We'll save the good one. We'll save the good one. Um, where are you at on
145:01>> that time, bros? [laughter] >> Fake out. We just Aaron Glend, dude.
145:10Competitive advantage.
145:11>> Competitive advantage. Stay for the whole video. [laughter] >> I I mean, I remain similar to you out. I remain saying just whatever. Like I I
145:22mean, I just he needs more runway. It's objectively bad. I can't make a case for him, but like I just want to see more.
145:27Um, you're going to be very disappointed that on my props show I actually gave out the Cam Ward passing yards over.
145:34>> I'm not disappointed. I'm not disappointed. I think this could be his highest passing yardage of the season fairly easily because they're going to
145:42get absolutely smoked and they're just going to have to throw a ton.
145:46>> So, and the thing about Ward, I've made this case previously, I'll make it again. He is playing so so bad that it's
145:55hard to be this bad. It's hard to be as bad as Cam Ward has been. And at some point he'll probably just turn in one of
146:02those Flacco games. You go, "Oh [ __ ] maybe this guy's got something left."
146:07and uh you know finishes the season like quarterback 36 in the EPA per game, but you know currently he's he's well
146:17actually JJ McCarthy is dead last, but Ward is second worst.
146:22So yeah, I mean I think I think that from like a medium-term perspective, Ward is just bad. Um but bad quarterbacks can put up garbage time
146:33production. So, I think totally >> Yeah, it was just his his passing yard guard's over. He's just been he's been kidding. This the market's too low on it
146:41and then they're too low on the Colts uh just forcing every team to throw because the Colts they don't they don't mess
146:48they have not messed around this year.
146:49Like these games they're supposed to win like these games are not close. They're crushing these bad teams.
146:55>> Opponents have a 70% pass rate against the Colts this year. a 4% pass rate of expected and in pass rate expected
147:02they're shifting 3% toward the pass. So it's like uh >> they've led by double digit points for 38% of their offensive snaps this year.
147:11>> They're pass funnel. They're just straight up a pass funnel. You got to throw against the Colts. It's not really a matchup thing which makes a little
147:18tougher.
147:18>> Yeah. Yeah.
147:19>> It's just you're you're screwed. So >> it's helped they've had a bunch of quarterback injuries.
147:25>> Well, and and that that continues this week. Ward remains on IR. I I noted last week that Chris Lammons, who'd been
147:32their nickel corner, had been playing pretty well and that maybe Kenny Moore would play on the outside when he came back. He didn't. He replaced Lammons and
147:39Moore has actually not been that good this year in terms of like yardage allowed per snap.
147:44>> Um, but that left Mai Blackman and Jonathan Edwards on the outside. Both guys have been major liabilities. Um, so yeah, I mean that's another reason why
147:55if you're look if you want me to look silly for just hammering Ward is like like you could already called him a
148:02bust. Like that's where I'm at. Like I I think very likely is a bust. Uh not guaranteed, but just I don't really get
148:09like why there's there's still so much optimism for him. Like you know like what what are the Titans going to do
148:14next year? Like what's the alternative >> to just >> to to reset to do the Josh Rosen and to be like this didn't work.
148:22>> It still could happen. Like it's >> I would roen it. I mean obviously we're halfway through so >> they're obviously gonna they're
148:27obviously getting a new head coach. So >> what I would honestly do is not go anywhere near that job.
148:36>> Absolutely not.
148:36>> Talked about it last week. Don't do it, man.
148:38>> Don't make this the one shot you get.
148:42Like if it was going to be at least get him fresh out right out of the draft, you know, a whole year of a terrible
148:49offensive line and bad habits of him just chucking it up and whatever the fumble thing is. I mean, I don't know what what's going on there.
148:58Anyway, >> I mean, I'm not playing. I was just I just >> Yeah, but you know, I've got to do for
149:05the ship cast, we do the um the overs.
149:08uh usually overs cuz we watch the games and it's not very fun to pick unders.
149:11>> Um and so for the pickhams and >> I've done a ward one and end it hit >> and maybe I go back to the wall this
149:18week. I promised the guys I would stop with the ward stuff. Um but maybe I'll go back to it.
149:23>> Yeah. Well, the books just keep setting like his his line at like two basically like 200 passing yards every week and
149:28like he just keeps getting there and then >> Yeah, >> man. It's great. He very small improvements these last two weeks for
149:35him in terms of like completion rate stuff. Uh he also is coming off of a season high seven and a half yards or
149:41pass. It's like nothing to throw a party about. But very >> high success rate 52% 52nd percentile success rate not 52%. That would be that
149:50would be good.
149:50>> And the one thing I will say about them last week is they could have easily turtled in the after the head coaching
149:56change and just said hey we're going to run Tony Pard and Taj Spears a bunch.
150:00And they didn't. And they didn't do that.
150:02I do I I know that too. 76% pass rate, highest of the season. So they're still doing the Brian Callahan stuff and and
150:09he came from Zack Taylor and and you know passed a ton last year with Levis and Rudolph and stuff. So that was not a
150:16guarantee. So that was nice to see.
150:18>> But if you're going to do any stuff like with the Titans, it's all just like player prop stuff. Like you're not
150:21getting these guys in DFS, whether it be DK. Um it's just this what do you what do you >> I'm not playing the running backs.
150:29>> No. Oh, absolutely not.
150:31Yeah, you could maybe talk me into DK as like a punt DFS thing in large field. I don't know. 67% round participation and
150:40>> it'll probably go up with locket with locket gone.
150:43>> Yeah. Yeah, probably go up. Um >> at least a little bit.
150:46>> And Ward like that that one throw he had on the DK touchdown was sick. Like I under I on some level I do understand
150:52the um the optimism because when Ward looks good he looks awesome but when he doesn't look good it's >> yeah I feel the same way about Michael
151:00Penn too like because when Michael Pennix like he's got such a howitzer like he makes throws I'm like man what a
151:05laser beam and like totally >> the other 70% of the snaps I'm just like what is what do we have here?
151:11>> I mean his efficiency has been okay at least it's like you're in a range where like I mean it's mediocre but it's not
151:16disastrous.
151:16>> His infrastructure is a lot stronger.
151:18It's way better. It's way better. Yeah.
151:20Yeah.
151:22>> I love Zack Rob.
151:23>> I hope Ward eventually proves me wrong.
151:25>> I think Zack Rob play in the league, but >> Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I hope so, too. We Yeah. And people always say
151:30like, you know, do you want to root for your takes? I'm like, I want as many good fantasy players as possible.
151:35>> Yeah. I think just has a really like So, the pessimism for me on Ward is that like it's it's got to be like a lot has to change
151:45basically. If you if you give me a new coach who, you know, hey, you ignored my advice, but you know, I'm glad you
151:53turned glad you turned this guy around, then then I'm into it. But I I just I I really struggle to see how
151:57>> especially at quarterbacks. I'm happy to be wrong. Like I'm happy to be wrong with quarterbacks.
152:02>> Me, too.
152:03>> We have one here in Daniel Jones. Very happy to be wrong about Daniel Jones.
152:07>> Let's talk about it. Daniel Jones absolutely crushing this year. Um I've noted like his success rate's been so good that it's like gonna regress. Well,
152:15it has regressed. Okay. He's now at a rate that's like normalish. It's a very very good, but it's not like outlandishly good. His EPA per game and
152:26success rate, he's basically overlapping with Patrick Mahomes, except Jones has been slightly better. Um, I mean, he's been every single game this
152:35year he's been good except the Rams. Uh, he was 42nd percentile paper play. And uh the one thing I would say or two
152:42things I would say if they can't play from ahead uh I'd be a little bit worried about Jones. And if they're
152:47facing a legitimate pass rush, I would be worried about Jones. He's playing the Titans as 14 and a half point home
152:53favorites >> without Jeffrey Simmons.
152:55>> He'll be just fine without without Jeffrey Simmons. One of the best DT1 in past rush win rate >> and legious need was put on IR. So yeah,
153:05cool. Cool. Titans fans, you have even more to root for.
153:09Yeah, it is rough. Um I'm really glad we did this game before the Broncos Cowboys. I'll say that.
153:15>> Yeah, let's was right to pivot.
153:16But again, like but even we have a a team with a 30point team total and how confident are you playing any of
153:23these passing pieces?
153:27>> Not. Yeah, it's spread out enough. I mean, Warren is going to Warren's going to do something. So, >> but he's expensive now and you can feel
153:34good. The last time these teams played, the Colts had a 36% drop back rate in the second half.
153:42Tyler Warren ran eight pass routes in the second half the last time these teams played. And you paid a premium for
153:47him now. Like this isn't week three Tyler Warren.
153:50>> He can definitely score a touchdown and still be efficient from like a a yard throw out run stance and a high usage
153:56rate, but like >> are we going to get the run out this week?
154:02>> I It's tough, man. I don't they just don't need it. They they don't need to pass. Like they and so much of what they
154:09do is built on the run. Like they do pass. I think your best chance here is that like so the Colts on first and 10
154:16have had pass rates over expected of 5 2 13 6 and uh two and 19%. Uh week by week. So,
154:27every single week, positive pass rate of expected on first down. Sometimes quite high, including against the against the Titans. That's that's the uh the 13% was
154:36against the Titans in week three.
154:38They're prioritizing the pass when you don't know whether they're going to run or pass, which is smart, and it's helping Daniel Jones out. And so, maybe
154:47Daniel Jones is like really efficient on early down passing and um and you know, gets the touchdowns. I think that's that's where the passing game ends up
154:56crushing here. And I mean there's a good chance of that cuz it's a really good matchup against a beat up and bad
155:00defense, but fundamentally they are a run first team. Um they've peaked at a 68% pass rate against the Rams. Other than that, uh it was actually last week
155:10they were at 64% and they've been below 60% in every other game. Uh against the Titans they were at 54%. So they're
155:17they're going to run the ball a bunch.
155:18Um Taylor is just an absolute smash here. I noted for him first three years of his career in PFS PFF pass block grade among running backs
155:29he was ranked 106 103 and 99.
155:33Then in 2023 and 2024 jumps to running back 51 and running back 69.
155:38So wasn't good but you didn't like have to like worry about it so much. This year he's running back nine in pass
155:44block grade. His snaps are immaculate.
155:5087% last week, 92% the week before. He's not leaving the field at all. And we're getting these target shares now. Some of
155:56this is Jones instead of Richardson for sure, but these consistent target shares, 17, 16, 14, 13, and nine over the last uh five weeks.
156:06>> Started the season at 10 and six. Um 10 against the Dolphins, 6% against the >> careerhigh receptions per game, >> 12% target share for the I mean, that's
156:15like that's not, you know, oh man, this guy's a receiving back, but that's like that classic.
156:20>> He's better.
156:21>> Yeah. He was always the guy that if you didn't he was never catching passes, >> right? He's like he was a Derrick Henry
156:27type or Nick Chub type. Not anymore.
156:30>> Not anymore. So, yeah. I mean, he's just he he's not even fragile. It's not even a bad like, oh, if they keep him in
156:37check and doesn't score a touchdown, like, no, he'll catch he'll catch some passes and and he will score a touchdown. So,
156:45touchdowns.
156:45>> Yeah. Yeah.
156:47>> Yeah. Just jam him in.
156:49>> Jam him in, man.
156:51>> I mean, he's Think about I mean, he's been 10K like uh on FanDuel and like over 9K for multiple weeks and like you
156:57still needed him.
156:59>> Yep.
157:01They're they're implied team total is over 30 points and they're I think they're going to hit it.
157:07>> This team is just they're a wagon, dude.
157:10>> Yeah, they're a wagon. They are [ __ ] wagon.
157:17>> All right. Uh let's move to the final game environment. Unless there's any there any other >> No.
157:23>> Little nuggets. No. Yeah. Um I think Downs is okay for for season long stuff.
157:28I'll note that.
157:29>> Yeah. All those even Pierce has made a little surge too like >> Yeah. Although that was with Downs out.
157:34Um >> yeah, but even before he was getting uh some he was like just looking good. like he was cuz Pice used to be that guy like
157:41if he didn't c catch a long pass he was a zero >> and like he's he's been like living around like the 50 yard mark which on a
157:47week like this [clears throat] is like usable.
157:51>> Yeah. And downs downs I would say is a little thin because he's uh >> they're not going to run much 11
157:55personnel this week probably but in season long I think he's he's viable like wide receiver four type. Um all right Cowboys at Broncos kick us off
158:04here.
158:05Uh yeah, I mean it all just like this game I think has a little more volatility than I think the field sees
158:10it, but I think the upside still exists there as well. I mean, you know, we've h seen the Broncos, even putting respect
158:17on their defense, we've seen them play in some games that are high and tight and give up some passing production.
158:22Obviously, you know, this year we had the Daniel Jones game that was high and tight. He had 300 yards. Herbert had 300
158:28yards against them. A tight, you know, it's only 43 total points, but it was still a good game. Her Jaylen Herz do
158:33for 280 yards against them. Jackson Dart 283. You go back to last year. The game I think it's the most comparable to like
158:39what the Cowboys do offensively is the Bengals game from last year and then they had the shootout with the Browns and like the Jamus Heron fire game. So
158:47there is a path for upside here. I wish this game was in Dallas uh just because this offense has been a little
158:52Jacqueline Hyde uh you know going back for multiple seasons now. They're they're not like quite Lionsesque, but there is some adjacency to like you love
159:00you love them at home and like they could still be good on the road, but like they're just not quite as good.
159:05>> Uh so there's a little bit of that still too. But I do think that the path for upside to this game still exists and
159:11we've seen evidence of it that even though the Broncos are a good defense and we can get we'll start breaking down
159:16some individual matchup stuff though just from a top down perspective. I could see this game still being a game that gets there and is fun and is hot.
159:24I'm optimistic for this game. I think the Cowboys like what do what do you think about the man coverage stuff because the Cowboys aren't they like
159:34Broncos blitz and they play a bunch of man?
159:36>> Yep.
159:37>> Dak's great against the blitz and they've got two number one wide receivers. Like isn't that exactly how you beat a man coverage blitzing
159:44defense?
159:46That's why I said uh I think the one game that I think is evidenced because it's funny because you know like Lamb
159:51this year is being used like how Jamar Chase is too like we have the kind of the blueprint for like and then you add
159:56Jake Ferguson to this although his usage is super having one of the most bizarre seasons like uh underlying metrics we'll talk about him but you had this matchup
160:05last year that was a shootout with the Bengals and what happens is so the the Broncos will use Patrick Satan to shadow
160:12on the outside but like he doesn't like He's not like the old school Darl Rivas.
160:16He doesn't follow a guy around like really ever. He's only played 20 snaps in the slot all year. Last year, like we
160:21saw this with Jamar Chase had the nine for 100 on 15 targets in that game because he played 35% of his snaps in
160:27the slot. That's where Lamb is this year. Typically Lamb used to be higher.
160:30He used to be like a 50-50 player like an Aman Ros St. round, but like more explosive juice outside. But because
160:35Cavante Turpin's playing more snaps, like it's reduced Lamb's like full on slot role when they go 11 because Turpin really can't do much of anything else as
160:43a rural receiver. Uh but it does allow Lamb to move away from Certan. And when Lamb's outside, he'll probably see Certan, which again has a trickle down
160:53effect, too, because that means Pickkins will see a lot more Riley Moss.
160:56>> Yes, Pickkins will see Riley Moss. We saw Riley Moss, who's been a good player these past couple years, but when Riley
161:02Moss lined up against T. Higgins, a very similar archetype receiver as George Pickins, he got the business in that game last year. So, it'll probably be
161:11when Lamb's outside, we'll see Certan.
161:13He can move away inside and get some opportunities away. And then same thing like when Lamb moves inside, Certan will be on Pickkins. And when Lamb goes
161:21outside, Pickkins uh will probably see Riley Moss. Uh so you have that for you, too. So, that's how I see it kind of
161:27playing out in terms of uh like the deployment and what the Broncos are going to do is just what version of
161:32Riley Moss do we get?
161:35>> Yeah. And in the slot, the who who who he be going up against in the slot? I have to pull it up.
161:42>> Oh, uh the secondyear guy. Um I know his name, too. Um Jac drafted. I know it too. Definitely begins with a J.
161:52But I mean that's it's like it's just not the certain stuff just doesn't scare me that much because >> no we talk about
162:00>> completely shadowing him.
162:02>> We we talk like the era of like quarterback wide receiver matchups like has died for a reason because these guys
162:08NFL is predicated on even teams that play a lot of man like the Broncos. It's still like a 45% rate like you know
162:14Right.
162:16>> Yeah. So I mean and then the thing too is that like I think so the Cowboys have protect the part that would probably
162:23worry me the most >> Jaquan McMillan was his name. I knew it was a J.
162:27>> Okay McMillan. Um the pass rush for the Broncos have been awesome. Um and so you've got by the way McMillan and
162:37Moss have both been like okay this year and Certan in terms of yards per snap has been what you would expect has been
162:43awesome. Um but yeah, it's the secondary is good. We know that. Um but the pass rush, they're first in pressure rate,
162:51fourth in quick pressure rate, fourth in blitz per drop back. Um so they do blitz to get there, but they get there. Uh the
162:57Cowboys are fifth best in preventing quick pressure, and um sixth best in preventing pressure overall. So, you know, kind of strength on strength.
163:08I would give the edge here to the Broncos uh pass rush, but you know, could this be even if >> the Broncos pass rush kind of controls
163:18things, could this be kind of like the Eagles last week where it's like, yeah, there's a low success rate for the
163:24Cowboys passing offense, but when they're actually getting >> they're chunks, >> plays, they're big plays. Yeah, they're big plays. And I think I think you have
163:33that out. You also have the out that the Broncos don't harass Prescott and that he's able to he has answers for what
163:40they're throwing at him.
163:40>> He he's typically been one of these quarterbacks. If you want to blitz him, go ahead because he doesn't care.
163:46>> Fourth in EPA per blitz drop back this year and has been awesome against the Blitz over the course of his career
163:52since 2023. He ranks quarterback three in EPA per blitz drop back behind only Gene Daniels and Brock Perie. Um, and he's been great uh against man as well
164:01since 2023. Only Jared Goff has a higher EPA per play against man. And he's got the horses, man. Like this is
164:08>> Yeah, >> it's it's your guys versus our guys.
164:10Well, that you've got CD Lamb and George Pickkins. I think I want your guys, you know? Uh, so I this is I think it's kind
164:18of the fun version of the way I talked up the Patriots. Like, hey, I think they can still score points here. It's like,
164:22yeah, but to what end? Like, are they winning you a tournament? You know, I'll probably play a Drake double just for
164:27the fun of it. But like Dak is probably how you actually win a tournament. Like if he can withstand this here or Bo
164:36Nicks is how you win a tournament and you have CD Lamb coming back or something like that and this game environment goes nuts. Um you could
164:42certainly see that also working because he gets he actually gets the really soft matchup. Um do you have anything else on
164:49the Cowboys before we move to the Broncos?
164:51>> You know, I think this is passing game only. I think the one cowboy I think is I think the cowboy that's the most
164:56fragile here is Javvante and I know it's the revenge game and we do the revenge game stuff but um only Jonathan Taylor
165:04has rushed for se more than 70 yards against the Broncos this season and going back to last year the only running
165:10back to rush for 100 yards against them is Jonathan Taylor who did it twice uh since week 10 last year. I think this is
165:16a game where you can still get a touchdown from Javante Williams, but I don't think we're getting like 100 yard bonuses and stuff like that from him.
165:23You maybe get some more uh additional receiving stuff for him because the quick pressure stuff, but I I I don't think he's the one Cowboy I'm not even
165:31I'm have zero of him this week.
165:33>> Are you playing Ferguson?
165:34>> I mean, yes. More season.
165:37Yes, I'm gonna play a little bit of Ferguson because of the quick pressure stuff as I think that still could aid
165:42him, but I'm not as confident Ferguson because this I hate the salary bump that he has.
165:47>> Yeah, that that's that's why I kind of made that adjustment to season long because it's 6,000. It's a little tough.
165:52>> Well, because he's the dude when you look at his underlying metrics, it feels like such a house of cards. Like
165:58>> totally.
165:59>> I mean, this dude is averaging 3.9 air yards per target, six and a half yards per catch. The whole train is built out
166:06of just getting a lot of targets and getting in the end zone. Like >> yeah, he he is 96 percentile on open
166:12score. Um and he's getting he's getting a ton of target. He's you know >> I think this matchup keep the volume up. Yeah, I think and
166:21and he's, you know, when they played the Giants um back in week two or whatever, I had CD Lamb as a cover boy, the walkth
166:28through and was very excited about that and, you know, the game ends up going kind of nuts, but Malik Neighbors goes
166:35nuts on the other side and Ferguson is just racking up targets because of the pass rush. He has a super super shallow
166:41ADO. Um, and that kind of sets up similarly this week where they could just be getting the ball out really quickly. I think if they're getting the
166:50ball out really quickly, it's it's Ferguson, not Javvante, who could who could rack up targets.
166:55>> That's Yeah, I I that's why I'm sticking with it still. And he and the touchdown equity has been there like the last few
167:01weeks.
167:01>> Yeah.
167:01>> So, I mean, it's funny is this dude this dude couldn't score a touchdown for two years. Now, it's >> Well, he scored three in a game and then
167:06he couldn't score then that's the whole season he used up apparently.
167:10>> And now he can't keep him out, man.
167:13>> Yeah. So, I mean, I agree with you. Like he's he's averaging 1.8 eight points uh fantasy points over expected per game.
167:20So, I mean, he's he's running really hot, but at at the same time, the expected points are 15.4 per game, which
167:26is amazing. So, I I kind of I don't know. I don't think I can do it at 6,000. Like, it's it's a
167:32>> it's it's very expensive. Um >> and in a in a week where salary is tight and there's so many other things I want
167:37to spend up for other than Jake Ferguson. So, I don't think I'm playing him, but I could see him having a really
167:42strong game here. Well, I think he the only reason I'm keeping him alive is for the the full onslaught of this game
167:48because the Broncos have cheap pass catchers.
167:52>> Okay. Well, one of the cheap pass catchers is actually Evan Ingram, who I've I'm a little intrigued by here. Um,
167:59he was 66% round participation last week, which if he was in that range would be like way way easier than, you
168:06know, the 50% that he's typically at. I mean, that's >> more Dalton Concade. If he was Denver Dalton Concade, you'd live with it.
168:13>> I think he might be now, especially in this game environment.
168:16>> I think he'll be here. Yeah.
168:18>> Yeah. Yeah. So, he's someone that kind of I'm intrigued by. I'm a little less intrigued by like the the part-time
168:25receivers. Sutton is probably my favorite way to just play this other than Knicks cuz >> um he's so clearly the number one wide
168:33receiver and I just want to bet on this game environment in a super soft matchup. and the Cowboys also being down. Uh Malik Hooker who's on injured
168:44reserve and then I need to check Donovan Wilson and uh Trayvon Diggs had back out. Okay.
168:52>> So I mean this is a really really bad uh secondary now with the injuries and they're already looking terrible. Um
169:00>> and and they're not going to be able to do what they did last week here. Uh so like Dallas Oh,
169:04>> Wilson's out too. Donovan Wilson's also out.
169:08>> Yeah, they last week >> three starters >> and they went super manheavy last week because they can get away with it. It
169:14was the first time this year they went manheavy and it's because the other team was starting Chris Morris as their wide
169:18receiver one.
169:20>> Yeah, they're not that again.
169:22>> I don't think they're rolling back that rate of man coverage that we saw last week. Um >> no, it's back to this crap soft zone
169:29they've been doing and get they've been getting beat up on it >> and you be if they do go man, great.
169:34like bring it on.
169:35>> We would love it. Yeah, we would love it. Well, especially with the personnel, but I I I have to believe that they
169:40adjusted last week based on again Chris Mor.
169:43>> I think so, too.
169:45>> No, they were just like, you literally don't have any receivers. You can't >> please try to beat us with these guys.
169:49>> Yeah, but but with three dudes in a secondary out, both safeties and a quarterback out, um I don't think they
169:56do that. And if they do, like, holy man. Sutton will feast. He He's He's good against man.
170:03>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's where you want him.
170:06Yeah, I I mean I love Sutton. He's the clear guy to stack. I do like a I like Troy Franklin. Mims is going to get
170:12steamed, I think, or get chased. But I >> I'm not doing Mims.
170:17>> Oh god, no. The most DFS [ __ ] we ever, right? Like [laughter] but I don't think they like I think it
170:24So Franklin Yeah, they're still rotating guys in, but this is just like an in I would only include Franklin in like in
170:31the stacks of the Bonicks here. Um he's like just staying at like the 75% range.
170:36Like Pat Pat Bryant's good enough. Your boy Pat Bryant this week you need uh is getting just enough uh to cut into that.
170:43But I don't think people realize like this like Troy Franklin has like a legitimate red zone and endzone role like and he's it's like been steady like
170:51he >> Well, some of his role is when the ball goes bouncing off of other guys. Yeah, >> dude. But do you
170:58he's got he's the wide receiver six in red zone target share right now. Uh, he's 11 red zone targets. Asterx 10 red
171:06zone targets.
171:07>> Yeah. Well, that might not even be a target.
171:09>> I don't know if they count that. He also he also has three end zone targets and that doesn't even count these plays. Uh,
171:16so he has two two-point conversions on plays that were like dialed for him like they so like these are designed like
171:21they're clearly like there's a like in this area of the field like he's he's getting designed usage. Do you think that's actually bearish because this is
171:29a playoff team and they're using up the Troy Franklin two-pointers during the season and they have the good stuffs for later.
171:34>> I don't know. They needed those twos last week, man. [laughter] Uh >> but they did. You're right.
171:39>> I just mean you So if you're making me and No, you don't have to play Troy Finland. I'm just saying if you're
171:43making me pick a Denver wide receiver that's not Courtland Sutton, you're getting a guy that's still running the most routes behind Courtland Sutton and
171:50has the largest end zone role at significantly lower ownership than Marvin Ms.
171:56Like I'm gonna always bet on the other the the four.
171:59>> It's so gadgety with Mims, you know, like and I guess they probably >> He's fun to pick. People love like
172:05people like it. It's he does have great mans coverage stuff because he gets the splash plays, >> right?
172:11>> But we don't know again like you're counting on what does Dallas do.
172:14>> Again, like I'm just going to follow the guy and Franklin could be terrible. Like he legitimately has been terrible for
172:19like four of the games. It's just like he's consistently the guy that's out there the most and gets utilized. Like, why would I not play that guy in the
172:26spot if if we believe the game is doing the the game stuff?
172:29>> The game's doing the heavy lifting.
172:30Yeah.
172:31>> Why wouldn't we just take the guy that's on the field and getting endzone looks?
172:36>> Yeah. But then what happens to my brain is that I make that case for Franklin and then I go, why don't I just play
172:43Sutton then?
172:44>> Well, you should play Sutton. That's my thing. Like, I'm serious. like if you're doing Knicks doubles and stuff like that. Um,
172:50>> but Nicks doubles I think I I think I would do it with Ingram is kind of where I where I've landed this morning anyway.
172:55I I think Franklin and Mims are both playable, so I'm not saying, you know, oh, you got to cross them off at
173:02>> Yeah. It's not trying to jam, man.
173:05>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Ingram is is 4,100, so I guess he's a little more expensive than you'd prefer, but >> Well, he's more expensive than he should
173:14be.
173:16Yeah, >> he should be 4,100.
173:19>> You're like, hey, in the, you know, if it could it be a two tight end week where I'm like, I'm about to play I was
173:25about to play Troy Franklin for 4,200.
173:27What if I >> going down to Evan Ingram?
173:30>> I guess they're both they're pretty pretty equivalent, I suppose.
173:33>> What have you is only 39.
173:43God damn it.
173:49>> We're playing Jerry Judy.
173:53>> He's cheat. Troy Franklin's more expensive than Jerry Judy.
173:56>> Yeah. You know what? I agree with DraftKings, but I'm still probably gonna play Judy. [laughter] Oh man. Um JK Dobbins I think is a
174:09legitimate pivot this week. Uh, a way to bet on this game environment, a way to bet on the Broncos. Uh, >> well, he's the bet on this game failing,
174:19right? Like he's the bet like you would do JK Dobbins and no one else from this game.
174:25>> Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, you're I still think you're the Broncos have an implied team
174:32total of 27 and I'm just trying to get those touchdowns. So, I don't I don't know that the game needs to like
174:38completely fail. It's just that like Dobbins gets the gets the touchdowns and I'm I'm in like pretty good shape. I'm probably only scoring, you know,
174:46somewhere in I'm scoring like 24 points if I'm lucky. You know, half the points are touchdowns, but um I've saved the
174:55salary and you know, these guys stay in check where it's like Taylor scores 33, but I've got now I've got so much salary
175:02to work with and I'll beat you. Um I'll find I'll find 10 points with the rest of the salary or whatever, right? So, I
175:08think that's kind of the play. And of the kind of mid-range pivot guys that we've talked about, I think he is the
175:14most interesting because the Cowboys are bad against the run as well. And it's it's a pretty high um you know, implied
175:21team total with Dobbins having a clear lead. Man, I guess he he really did forget his helmet.
175:29>> Well, yeah. And then, you know, RJ Harvey's just anytime that they hand the ball off to him, he he runs into his own
175:36guy.
175:37Yeah, not not ideal.
175:39>> I mean, it's funny is like I wish these guys were one player so badly. Like it drives I just wish they were one player.
175:45I mean because you know we we we have JK Dobbins in a role like if he doesn't score a touchdown he's unusable because
175:51he's running a route on 30% of the dropbacks. He has seven catches this year for 22 yards. Like and then Harvey's the complete inverse. Like this
176:01dude has 10 runs for 16 yards over the past three games. like you're and but he's getting you he's getting just a
176:07little sprinkling of pass catching. I just wish they were one guy. I want >> a >> little bit. I had a 5% target share last
176:12week.
176:13>> Yeah, just Denver running back. Just Denver >> Denver running back would be good.
176:17>> That'd be a good play.
176:18>> Damn it, Sean.
176:19>> Because then you'd also get Bedet, you know, you get Mlofflin, you get every Shawn Pay.
176:27>> Um thoughts on Knicks here because he's been so up and down this year, but I mean obviously quarter.
176:35>> It does have some volatility.
176:37>> It does.
176:40>> Nick has been pretty bad most of the year.
176:44>> Nicks has been pretty bad, man. His success rate is really bad. Success rate. Here's the quarterbacks behind him in success rate. Dylan Gabriel, Cam
176:53Ward, Cooper Rush, and Joe Flacco. End of the list. It's It's rough. I mean, >> they were losing 19 to nothing for a
177:00reason last week.
177:01>> Yeah. Going >> into the fourth quarter. when he has good plays, they're often very good.
177:06He's also behind an elite offensive line. Like he is the type of quarterback who you would expect to be like frustratingly inconsistent, but then
177:12when it clicks, it for it to like really click.
177:15But I wish they would just let him play though, like last week. Like Shawn Payeyton is so indoctrinated into trying to make Bo Knicks new Drew Brees that I
177:24think it makes Knicks worse.
177:25>> Like I think you're right.
177:27>> He just played in the fourth quarter and was the best version of himself. like when he just gets to run around and play
177:32stuff like like he can play like he he can be good because he actually can throw downfield like he's a really good
177:38downfield passer and was in college.
177:40It's just Yeah.
177:40>> You know who he's really like? He's like Caleb Williams.
177:44>> Yes. Yeah.
177:45>> That's the style of quarterback that he's actually like >> but he's got way better protection so it it works more frequently than it does
177:52with Williams. But >> Shawn Payeyton is just so hellbent on making him new Drew Brees.
177:57>> Yeah.
178:00But I mean, God, there's so much upside here. It's hard not to. He's like one of these guys like you have to play some of
178:05this week. It feels like >> I think so too because he also comes with the rushing. It's not only that the
178:09Cowboys are only the most passing points per game. They're also 31st in rushing points allowed per game to quarterbacks.
178:14>> Right. Right.
178:16Yeah. And they have injuries. All of these numbers don't even It's like you have the worst numbers and normally when you have numbers like this, it's like,
178:24well, they're getting this guy back.
178:25They they're out.
178:26>> Yeah. Like we talk about the Ravens.
178:27Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the opposite.
178:30It's like actually 30th in DVOA is probably too good.
178:34>> They're probably >> So, yeah, you gotta I think >> it's not comfy because Knicks is very volatile, but man, that the upside's for
178:43sure here.
178:46>> Yeah, it's it's just a game. I think I think there's a little more volatility to it like to the game, but like you
178:51have to respect the Apex outcome of this game as well.
178:55>> For sure.
178:57are when you're not playing this game or would you like try to have a dobson or you just go ah this maybe this this is
179:03spread out and you know I don't need to have a piece of this.
179:08>> Yeah, I think you're probably looking at some like if you think like the game underwhelms in totality that means probably Dobbins was just running wild
179:15and then like the Denver defense was did actually step up and did well. So that would probably be >> defense is kind of an interesting pivot
179:23or a leverage piece. I mean >> absolutely. Well, also too, I mean, this is the old old school like Jonathan Bales thing, like people always try,
179:31well, now the meta is you just pay for the cheapest defense that's like either home or like and but like right
179:36>> playing these defenses in these games that are supposed to be like uptempo and have like a lot of drop backs has always
179:42been like one of the more sneakier ways to play. The game could literally both teams could still score 30 points, but
179:48you want drop backs because it leads to turnover sacks and maybe a defensive touchdown. Like you don't care about the points allowed,
179:54>> you know?
179:54>> Right. Right.
179:56No, 100%. Um, all right. We covered it all.
180:01>> That's it.
180:02>> There's there's one thing, and this might kind of take away from uh the DFS pod I did this morning with Squirrel
180:07Patrol and and Davis Matic and Neil Orfield. I was kind of like, you know, all in all, the game environments here
180:14are a bit underwhelming, but there are some really there's some teams that I think can really bring it this week. And
180:21and so there's some double stacks that I think, you know, you have the Denver stuff, you have Bears stuff, you have
180:29Ravens stuff, you have you have now Herz doubles are are really easy. Um Flaco doubles I wasn't even thinking about this morning, but I think you're
180:39you're right. Like that that's actually a sneaky fun spot. You could do Rattler stuff. you know, there's there's like maybe I'm not doing like I had a lineup
180:50last week as I mentioned that was just literally the entire Chargers game. Um I don't think I would have something like
180:57that this week, but there are some teams that I think you can kind of bet on them to roll like Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor
181:05would maybe be a way to play that. um teams like there's the Cowboys have actually been one of this one of these
181:13teams where like they you know back when they had Zeke and stuff sometimes they would just it's just like the answer was
181:19was Cowboys and no whoever they were playing I think the Falcons they just like put up >> the Lions have done this repeatedly
181:26>> Lions Yep. Yep.
181:27>> Like where you get that's how it feels to me.
181:29>> Yeah. Get you just get Lions.
181:32>> Get Lions. Yeah. It feels like that kind of slate where like there's gonna be answers among these teams and it's the
181:37Colts are obviously like the big favorites to be this team, but it's like the answer was Colts, >> you know.
181:42>> Yeah.
181:42>> Um >> probably not the Jets, I would say.
181:45>> Not the Jets. Not the Jets. [laughter] >> Definitely not competitive. We We're looking for competitive advantages.
181:55>> Yeah.
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