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Amon-Ra St. BrownBrock BowersBucky IrvingChase BrownChristian KirkDavid MontgomeryDevontez WalkerJonathan TaylorJonathon BrooksJosh AllenLamar JacksonLe'Veon BellMark AndrewsRashod Bateman

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

NegativeProjection39:14

The source's reference to St. Brown as a 'quarterback prospect' with potential to develop as a passer appears to be a misidentification or error in the extraction. St. Brown is a wide receiver for the Detroit Lions, not a quarterback. The nearby context comparing dual-threat QB development (Josh Allen) does not apply to St. Brown's actual role. Without a valid independent take on St. Brown's fantasy outlook, no actionable insight can be consolidated.

Brock Bowers

PositiveValue40:40

Bowers is mentioned as a top tight end option in draft discussions alongside Chase Brown and Devonte Chan. The source states 'I'd be Brown or Bowers here,' indicating preference for Bowers as a draft target in the tight end tier.

Bucky Irving

NegativeValue49:02

Irving has been falling in drafts, creating a scenario where he could be available later than expected. The source notes that while there is a possibility of getting him in a later round, taking him at his current ADP would be more of a reach than waiting for him to fall further. Despite this analysis, Irving was selected immediately after the discussion, suggesting he may not fall as far as anticipated.

Chase Brown

PositiveValue40:40

Chase Brown is mentioned as a top draft option in the tight end tier alongside Devonte Chan and Brock Bowers, with the source expressing preference for either Brown or Bowers in this range. Additionally, Brown is being paired with Joe Burrow in a week 17 stack strategy, with the source expressing interest in this combination as part of a 'week 17 bringback' approach, suggesting the Bengals' late-season matchup and offensive pairing create a favorable fantasy scenario.

Christian Kirk

NegativeRole43:35

Kirk is competing with Stribbling for the slot role; the source believes Kirk will likely lose the job over time but could be productive early in the season if he wins the slot competition. With KD not at 100%, Kirk could provide three to four weeks of early-season value before losing snaps, making him a potential short-term target in late rounds.

David Montgomery

PositiveValue16:00

The source is now ready to take David Montgomery over Cam Scataboo in draft positioning, implying Montgomery is a safer and more reliable fourth-round option than Scataboo given Scataboo's injury recovery and behavioral concerns.

Devontez Walker

NegativeDepth Chart47:24

Ravens have provided no official communication about Walker despite training camp reports from the Athletic's Ravens beat writer indicating he looks strong and is positioned as the team's wide receiver three. The lack of media coverage and coaching staff questions about his role and depth chart placement is notable given the new head coach and staff, especially since Eric DeCosta (previous GM) drafted him. This silence contrasts with the team's willingness to discuss other receivers.

Jonathan Taylor

NegativeBust9:05

Jonathan Taylor fell significantly in ADP during the final days of 2023 drafts, dropping into the fifth round due to a combination of a holdout and a minor injury; the source uses this as an example of how late-summer panic over availability concerns can drive down ADP even for elite talent.

Jonathon Brooks

NegativeInjury17:17

Post-major leg injury recovery; the source humorously suggests wanting to see a backflip from Brooks as a confidence indicator of leg recovery, but immediately cautions against the risk: 'I wouldn't mind seeing like one backflip out of Jonathan Brooks this off season' followed by 'Don't risk it.' This reflects concern about Brooks' readiness and the need for demonstrated confidence in his repaired leg before trusting him in fantasy lineups.

Josh Allen

PositiveProjection39:14

Historical example of quarterback development trajectory; Allen has improved as a passer over his career while maintaining elite rushing ability, demonstrating that dual-threat QBs can add passing skills without losing their running upside.

Lamar Jackson

PositiveValue16:18

Lamar Jackson is popping as a pretty good pick in the current draft scenario. When faced with the choice between Jackson and Bucky Irving, the source recommends taking Lamar if trying to secure both players, indicating Jackson represents better value at his current ADP.

Le'Veon Bell

NegativeBust8:17

Le'Veon Bell held out all year and was a horrendous draft pick; the source uses him as a cautionary example of how late-summer drafters who panic over holdout news can drive down ADP for players with availability concerns, though the source notes that late-summer panic is not always incorrect.

Mark Andrews

NegativeRole44:00

Andrews is positioned as the second target in the Ravens offense after Zay Flowers, indicating a secondary role in the target hierarchy despite his tight end status.

Rashod Bateman

PositiveRole41:20

Ravens GM Eric DeCosta expressed strong confidence in Bateman's 2024 outlook, calling him 'a phenomenal athlete, great route runner' with 'flashes of being a real problem for other teams.' DeCosta stated 'I expect him to have a great year this year' and emphasized Bateman will have 'a lot of opportunities this year' in the new offense. The source interprets this as Bateman being positioned as the starting X receiver. However, context notes he was ineffective last year (barely over one reception per game, one double-digit game) and suffered an ankle injury in week 10, creating some skepticism about whether the GM's optimism will translate to production.

Stefon Diggs

NegativeInjury8:50

Stefon Diggs was banged up entering the season one year and started falling significantly in ADP as a result; the source uses this as a historical example of how injury concerns entering the season can trigger late-summer ADP declines.

Tyrone Tracy

NegativeRole13:33

Tracy is not viewed as a strong talent by the source ('not very good'), but he would become a valuable handcuff and starting option for the Giants if Cam Scataboo were injured or removed from the lineup due to reckless behavior. His value is entirely contingent on Scataboo's unavailability.

Zay Flowers

PositiveRole40:40

Ravens GM Eric DeCosta confirmed strong team investment in Flowers, stating 'Yeah, definitely' when asked about getting an extension done before the season. The source notes the offense will be built around Flowers as the primary target, with Mark Andrews as the second option. This positions Flowers as the focal point of the Ravens' passing attack.

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0:00Welcome to the Legendary Upside podcast and YouTube channel. My name is Patra.

0:04You can follow my content at legendaryupside.com.

0:08With me today, Greg Branos of the Coach Speak Index for our Legendary Coach Speak podcast. Greg, how's it going?

0:14>> Going all right. I think uh I think I may be entering uh my my my threequarter life crisis. I've been looking at a lot

0:22of cardigans online lately just like >> Is that to Is that just in case you you're feeling a little sick

0:33of just random people coming up to you and going Duvo? [laughter] >> You got to cover it up.

0:41>> I love that shirt.

0:42>> I I I [laughter] open it up sometimes like Superman. Little little Cam Newton.

0:46>> Oh. [laughter] That's great. What is that? Is that real Mark? Did you make that? How did >> I? Well, yeah. Friend of mine who does

0:58uh some graphics and stuff for me. Um I gave him some ideas for merch designs and um I was like, "Yeah, let's do a

1:09let's do a Duval. Let's do it in in in the Jaguars print and kind of like wavy." Love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can

1:18hear it pop up.

1:20beautiful.

1:20>> Uh, you can't buy this anymore, but uh but I but I have one. [laughter] >> Everybody was like, "We want merch. We

1:29want merch. We want merch." And I put some merch up. They're like, "Nah, we're good. [laughter] I'm not going to we're not going to pay

1:37every month to have the store up."

1:39>> That's uh that's kind of what happened with the uh the 4% exposure blanket that we we literally have that blanket for

1:46sale in ship chasing. Not a lot of people have bought the blanket.

1:49>> About 4% of people.

1:51>> No, we [laughter] I think 4%.

1:57>> You need an exposure blanket for the exposure blanket.

2:00>> We do. We needed an exposure blanket for the exposure blanket. Um >> a dish towel.

2:04>> All right.

2:05>> Yeah. [laughter] But uh yeah, let's get into some some of the coach speak that we have gotten this week. Not a ton as we are still in the

2:14pre-training camp period.

2:16>> I would say embrace it. You know, this is it's going to I know it feels a little slow last week. This week's a

2:20little slow.

2:21>> This this week soon >> ramping back up. Yeah. And then like next week it's going to be >> non-stop. Non-stop. So, uh we do have

2:30some some quotes, some flips, some uh imperfectly executed back flips on uh

2:38you know, surgically reconstructed legs.

2:42So, any any thoughts on uh the Giants, guys? uh Malik Neighbors and uh and Cam Scataboo this week.

2:51>> Yeah. John Harbaugh uh last Monday did an interview on the Dominique Foxworth show and was asked how Malik Neighbors and Cam Scatteraboo

3:02are doing. Harbaugh said they're doing well. They're both rehabbing every day, working super hard. I would say they're on schedule. Now, people hear that and

3:11they're like, "What does that mean?" I don't really know because nobody knows.

3:17And and then there is a clear edit that takes place in this pre-recorded video >> and then it

3:28>> just picks up with the following.

3:29They're doing well and they're getting better every day. I feel like Scat will be ready early on in training camp right

3:35away pretty quick and then Malik will be working his way into practice as camp gets started one way or another. To what

3:43degree we will find out, but there's a lot of optimism around both those two guys right now. I feel really good about

3:48the respective paths and they should be pretty early. I don't want to make any guarantees, but I think you'll see a lot

3:55of those guys this season. Scat is quote unquote further ahead based on the type of injury, but Malik is not far behind.

4:03He's in a good place right now.

4:06>> So, like, you know, we need to to get in touch with Jordan Renan and have him release the tapes. They've got I'm sure,

4:14right, they've got this there's audio of this that exists uncut, >> right? Weren't reporter. This is two reporters, right? This a press

4:23conference.

4:23>> Well, no, this was not a press conference. This was an interview on the Dominique Foxworth show.

4:27>> Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.

4:28>> Yeah. So, we'd have to get in touch with the producers andor Dominic.

4:32>> So, we're not never hearing this. Okay.

4:34So, if they they cut it out as part of the podcast, we're never getting I was I was picturing this as him at the podium.

4:39>> No. No. It It was like a pre-recorded sit down.

4:43>> You didn't say that it was a interview.

4:45Yeah. My bad.

4:46>> Interview.

4:47>> Yeah.

4:47>> Yeah. Okay. So, we'll never know. That that edit could be one of a couple things probably. Like either he said

4:55something that immediately he was like you please edit that out. I don't want this out there. Or it was just the kind

5:05of rambling that happens sometimes when you're going on about something >> pretty live for it to be that >> clean it up.

5:13>> Yeah.

5:15But a little suspicious. Suspicious timing.

5:18>> Little suspicious. We're we're really building towards that toiling quicksand quote.

5:25>> Maybe he already gave it. He maybe gave it and they were like, "Oh, >> that might [laughter] have been."

5:30>> As a legendary Coach Peak listener, I I don't know if we want I don't know if we we can let John put quicksand out there.

5:37That's [laughter] going to be a meme.

5:40Uh >> we'll keep everything but quicksand and toiling. Let's uh let's take those two out.

5:44>> Yeah.

5:46>> Yeah. They've been saying all along Cam Scataboo ahead of Neighbors and that they've kind of been expecting Scataboo um right around the start of of training

5:58camp and it sounds like Malik Neighbors won't be and and you know we got some aggregated headlines of Malik Neighbor is going to

6:06be at practice when training camp starts as a result of this quote but that's not really what he was saying. who's like

6:12he'll work his way in one way or another. To what degree? We'll find out.

6:18Like it sounds like, you know, exercise bike, stationary bike, uh off to the side kind of kind of stuff for him.

6:28>> Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. I mean, the Malik Neighbors stuff, I've been waiting for him to fall a little bit more and it hasn't really

6:40happened yet, but I he's he remains a guy that I think could fall a lot and >> in a way that

6:49>> yeah, train pup and then >> oh, he's going to miss games like he will miss he's not going to start like I

6:56mean obviously if he goes on actual pup there's going to There's this stuff flips emotionally, I think, and it happens sometimes later and then harder

7:07than we expect where if you're like tuned in all summer, you sort of end up having this like perception that

7:18I think is incorrect that kind of everyone's roughly where you are on this stuff. But what is actually I think true

7:26is that a number of people just haven't thought about it yet. And when they think about it, they'll start thinking about it and their baseline will be,

7:36"This dude hasn't been right all summer, was on training camp up and is now going to miss games. Why on earth would I

7:43draft him?" and that like those people will come into late summer drafts and have not drafted before and you're, you

7:53know, in a draft in August where zero of these people were were drafting against you and now like six or seven of them

8:01are and you have the potential for Malik Neighbors to fall a lot, you know, and this just drafting over the years in in

8:11the main event and, you know, go out in Vegas and I'm drafting like the Thursday of the first game or the Saturday, you

8:17know, before the first Sunday main slate and you see like guys like Le'Veon Bell and, you know, and he was holding out,

8:24which by the way was like he was a horrendous pick. He he held out all year. It was he were burning

8:30money. So, it's not even I'm saying like the people who come in late with this stuff are necessarily wrong. But, uh,

8:38Stefon Diggs one year was banged up entering the season started falling a ton. Jonathan Taylor in the final days of drafts, uh, in 2023

8:49was falling a ton. I think he fell into the fifth round.

8:53>> Was his an injury or a hold out?

8:55>> It was a hold out, I think. Uh yeah, I think it was a hold out, but then he was it was like a hold out minor injury

9:02combo I believe >> where like even when he came back he wasn't gonna play right away and there was just this you could

9:09>> the panic started to set in of like >> okay like this the season starts in less than a week and what am I getting? Am I

9:17really getting am I really going to draft this guy? He's not going to play on Sunday. When is he going to play?

9:22When am I actually going to start getting points from this guy? Am I just burning money right now? it starts to go

9:27that way. So, I I think I I remain I'm I'm not completely zeroing out neighbors right now. I am taking some of them. Uh

9:36I could be wrong about how this goes, but I'm I'm I'm a little underweight.

9:40He's he's a guy that I think I was really underweight on early. I think he's like an okay pick where he goes

9:46now, but I could see him going significantly later. And I'm curious if you know >> he was going at the he was going at the

9:52one two turn >> when when I mean that was that made sense first open up and >> even the two three turn I think was

10:02pretty rich.

10:03>> Yeah >> 34 turn >> not so bad. his his current ADP is obviously baking in, oh, this guy has a

10:12real chance to to miss several games to start the season. And and and you would think you always think, okay, >> this this is like fully baked in now.

10:23>> This is where that this is where the ADP will will settle. It is absolutely >> not baked in. is as soon as we get that

10:31training camp pup, we'll see him go at the four or five turn pretty regular regularly most likely. And then if we

10:40get he's starting the the regular season on pup, then we'll see another drop of like five six turn and maybe there's

10:50news that okay, it's going to be week six or seven where he's kind of back to back to 100%.

10:58I think 56 turn is live. I think he he could get down to the 56 turn. Uh probably not for a while though. And

11:06there's a number of like players that you can get now at prices that you won't be able to get later. So like if you're

11:11looking at him in the fourth round, I think he's fine. I don't think it's he he could fall another full round

11:19in August. I think on DraftKings, you know, once you get the the O, if you get the O >> on Malik Neighbors, you could be looking

11:28at him in the six that in some drafts. I don't think his ADP will be like mid6th, but I bet you'll see screenshots of

11:35mid6th Malik Neighbors.

11:37>> If we get if we get he's on pup to start the year and then you get that O.

11:42>> That's going to be or do you get the pup? I'm not sure if you get a a pup or no. Probably just an O, right? Probably

11:48just an O. Pro >> Yeah, pro. probably just an I was gonna say may maybe like a little little >> little IR

11:54>> picture little picture of a of a puppy >> but there's some like branding issues there I think.

12:03>> Yeah. What do you do? Do you think this Cam this latest Cam Scataboo

12:11backflip I'm not gonna change who I am kind of stuff is is is going to drop his ADP half half round full round?

12:20>> I don't think so. I mean, I think if you're drafting Cam Scataboo, who is drafting Cam Scataboo in July, meaning you are plugged in draft

12:31pre-training camp Cam Scataboo drafters, what percentage of those people are like, "Cam Scataboo is kind of a

12:41dumbass." Oh no.

12:44Why did Why didn't anyone tell me this?

12:47They know. Everyone knows. We all know. Like I just think it's kind of crazy to be like this guy's back flipping on a on a leg that was broken,

12:56you know, nine months ago. That seems dumb. Like yeah, it's [laughter] this is who he is and you know that. We all know it.

13:04>> There are videos of this guy banging his head against the wall in in college. Not metaphorically, literally banging his

13:14head against the wall. Like if you don't know that, you should be going, Cam Scataboo is he he's the Giants guy.

13:22That's the Giants running. Yeah, that's a Giants running back. Also, you may want to know that he did a backflip and

13:28bangs his head on brick.

13:30>> I saw [laughter] I saw so many quote tweets of that video just saying Tyrone Tracy period. A lot of them had a period

13:40at the end of it. Just Tyrone Tracy period.

13:44You know what? I like it. I'm in. That's a good use of of [laughter] Tyrone Tracy, period. And you might be

13:51right. It's like a fair enough point.

13:54That's not really how I'm playing it because I think Tracy's not very good.

13:57>> But um certainly if he was the starting running back for the Giants because Cam Scataboo did something dumb, you he

14:04would be a good pick where he goes. So, uh, >> I think Scataboo like this might they had that I can't remember what cable

14:13channel it was, but there's maybe it's still a show, but the like my weird addiction or whatever. It's like,

14:21oh, I I lick Tide Pods or or I I eat laundry detergent. That kind of stuff.

14:27Cam Scataboo might be the first guy in the history of the world who's just like addicted to back flips. like he can't he

14:34can't >> to be clear on the tide pot thing. I don't think it was like a quirky little hobby. I think it was a joke because

14:39they're like highly highly toxic those things. So I think the joke is that they look like they'd be good.

14:47>> I [laughter] I remember >> eating them because they I think will off you will off yourself with that behavior. [laughter]

14:53>> I remember an episode of a girl who would like lick laundry detergent.

14:59>> Okay.

15:00>> Yeah.

15:01>> Yeah. But I just think somebody needs to inter We need an intervention.

15:07>> Back flip intervention.

15:08>> Back flip intervention. Cam Scataboo comes home. Everybody's in chairs like Cam have have a seat, buddy. We We need

15:19to have a little talk. He's like, "Hold on a second. I got to go to the bathroom first." He runs to the bathroom and

15:24locks himself in there and he just hears flipping what's clearly a back flip.

15:30Everyone's like, "Oh, no." [laughter] >> Do you think he's trying to do a very aggressive headstand and that the goal was never to land on his feet, but

15:39rather his head? [laughter] I would be so in if he if he starts doing like a you got served, flipping on his head, spinning around,

15:49sliding across [laughter] the ground.

15:54I'm one two turn for me. Honestly, >> I think at that point I'd drop him a, you know, he's a f he's more of a fifth

16:01round pick. He's using [laughter] his head for entertainment in the dancing world. I think I'm uh I think I'm ready to take David Montgomery

16:11over him now.

16:13>> Yeah. Hit Scataboo and and Dart together like this is this is crash test dummies.

16:18These [laughter] Jackson Dart is not good for women. Also not good for Cam Scaboo. [laughter] Yeah, that's clearly true. [snorts] Um,

16:31yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's not a ton there. I I I think someone I I saw was I don't know if it's Jeff Bowler or

16:38someone else was was saying, you know, getting these guys to have confidence in their leg post major injury is a big

16:47part of the battle. and him back flipping.

16:54The guy likes to backflip. Whether or not he should be doing that is a separate issue and potentially for his friends and family to intervene on, but

17:01his willingness to flip isn't necessarily bad with the baseline that he's going to flip. I mean, it's Cam Scab. He's going to do flips.

17:13So, like, you know, he wants to flip.

17:15given that he wants to flip, his willingness to do so on the repaired leg is is probably bullish on some level.

17:22>> Yeah, that's I I I think it's a that's a pretty good point. I I wouldn't mind seeing like one backflip out of Jonathan

17:29Brooks this off season.

17:32>> I No, [laughter] >> don't do it.

17:36>> Don't risk it.

17:37>> Don't risk it, John.

17:40>> I've got too much.

17:40>> Hey, man. We've never seen this guy do a backflip in the NFL.

17:43>> I don't need to. I don't need to see it.

17:46I'm just imagining this leg is I don't know.

17:51No, [clears throat] don't do it. John, >> do you remember last year this this home league went viral for there in their scoring system? If a

18:02player after scoring a touchdown does a backflip, you get negative 100 points.

18:07You think Cam Scatoo is just completely undraftable in that league?

18:14Does it now? Wait, you score the touchdown after do you flip into the end zone? Is that what you're saying? No.

18:19No. It has happened.

18:20>> No. For for their celebration if they do a back flip while they're celebrating.

18:24>> He's undraftable. He's absolutely undraftable.

18:26>> Yeah. Worst worst pick on the board.

18:29>> Like you autodraft Cam Scataboo and just like >> just cut him.

18:35>> Oh, I guess yeah, you could cut him.

18:36It'd be funny.

18:37>> He's a landmine for somebody else.

18:39>> Oh, he's a huge landmine. Yeah. Yeah.

18:40Yeah. Oh, dude. Imagine like you're like, "You know what? Picking Scam Cam Scaboo off waiverss like as long as he doesn't back fluke this week."

18:50You're you're digging into the data.

18:53You're digging into the data to be like, "Okay, is this a game where he probably won't score [clears throat] touchdown?" Because he's actually a

18:59pretty good play if he doesn't play >> as long as he doesn't score. [laughter] >> Oh my god. What a what a league. What is

19:09What league is this? some somebody's home league and they they I think posted a video of a player doing a back flip.

19:16They're like buddy in our league just got negative 100 points for for this back flip or you know talking about >> was it Jerome Simpson? Is that who I'm

19:26thinking of? Jerome Simpson, right? He he he flipped into the end zone like a guy kind of took out his feet and he fl

19:31it was a front flip, not a back flip >> into the end zone. You know what I'm talking about?

19:36>> [sighs] >> No, it was it was somebody doing a back flip for their celebration.

19:43>> No, no, I I know. I know. I'm just saying we have seen we have seen a flip into the end zone and I'm wondering if

19:49>> that would then >> also lead to negative points in this league. I I want a ruling on the Jerome Simpson flip touchdown. Is that negative

19:58points or can you flip into the end zone for the touchdown? It wasn't a celebration.

20:04That's that's a great philosophical question of if if you're flip if you're back flipping into the end zone, is that

20:15technically a touchdown celebration?

20:21That's That's what I'm trying. I think first you would have to make sure that the ball crosses the plane and then

20:32>> be doing the back flip into it.

20:35>> Let me get this.

20:38>> Oh, somebody's somebody's saying this is a front flip.

20:41>> This is a front flip, but this is this is the question of does this count?

20:47>> Wow.

20:48Yeah, >> I don't think it counts because I think the ball has to cross first before you execute.

20:58>> Now, what if you did what if you what if this happened again and then he right here he back flips?

21:06>> Oh, yeah. Then [laughter] I get negative 200, [screaming] >> dude. Front flip into back flip. Holy

21:15Get Get this guy on the Olympics.

21:18>> I know.

21:19>> Put him on the damn pole vault.

21:22>> Oh man, >> that man on a pommel horse.

21:27>> All right. Well, that covers everything we need to talk about with back flips for this episode. Um, >> let's get into the nitty-gritty here.

21:34Uh, you had some some pit comps, >> coaches that you wanted to comp to characters >> from the pit.

21:41>> Yes. Uh we we uh we talked about uh Brian Shottenheimimer last week, me and uh Jacob Sanderson on a very uh you know

21:50just just a nice tidy little stream.

21:53Didn't go didn't go long on that one at all. And uh we talked about Brian Shottenheimer looking a little bit like

21:58Dr. Robbie having a little bit of Dr.

22:00Robbie vibes uh in certain ways.

22:02Although kind of like positive Dr.

22:05Robbie uh potentially Dr. Robbie figures it out and becomes Brian Shottenheimer potentially. So any other Did you have an alternate Dr. Robbie comp because you

22:15floated that you have >> I disagree some pit comps >> big time with the Shahheimr is doc Dr.

22:21Robbie >> Brian I I'll first tell you who Brian Shottenheimimer is.

22:25>> He's Dr. Javati Nepo baby who is determined to blaze their own path also.

22:33>> I don't think he's that driven.

22:34>> Little bit little bit gossipy.

22:44>> Okay. All right. You got me. I'm back in.

22:46>> All right. I needed that.

22:48>> Dr. Robbie is Shawn McVey.

22:53One of the best in the world at his job.

22:56wears his emotions on his sleeve, especially when he is grumpy or pissed off >> and has contemplated

23:05quitting his job.

23:09>> Interesting. I don't know. I don't McVey, you know, has been able to have a a relationship. He seems much more I

23:18think McVeyy's got a lot more figured out than than Dr.

23:22>> He's reading Dr. Robbie.

23:24But Robbie, I don't think was ever I I I view Robbie as like at most kind of being able to have like a relationship

23:32that starts to get serious and then he he chickens out and and ends it. I I don't >> Well, MC has only been married a few

23:40years. We don't >> That would be a lot for Robbie.

23:42>> We don't know yet.

23:43>> Yeah. Well, fair fair. But yeah, I think I don't know what uh what Kyle Shanahan's personal life deal is as

23:51much, but he I would say Shanahan reminds me more of Robbie McVey reminds me more of uh who's the night shift

23:58attending.

24:00>> Um uh Dr. Jack Abbott, I think.

24:05>> Yeah, Abbott. He's he's a little first of all, he's a little shorter, you know, you get kind of the McVey build a little

24:11bit more. He's he's charming, you know, he's got this energy, this kind of like kind of a coach energy. He comes in, he

24:19kind of rallies the troops a little bit.

24:21He's got a much more it's pretty clear that his unit is a little more high performing as far as the >> uh morale goes. You know, Dr. Robbie is

24:31kind of things are falling apart. He's losing players. you know, he's got a player that's written themselves off the show, you know, uh, in on his on his unit. Uh,

24:42that has not happened as far as we know for Dr. Jack Abbott. In fact, you know, we're potentially looking at a

24:48night shift spin-off uh for the Pit is is a rumor that we've got there. So, uh, you know, I could see uh I could see

24:58McVey more as more as Abbott. I think he has more of that Abbott charisma. I've got Kyle Shanahan as um Joy Quan,

25:07the I think maybe we see her for the first time in season two. She's the the uh medical student.

25:14>> This is who Shanahan wishes he was. I I don't think he's Joy Quan. No, >> I hear me out.

25:20>> Dry, sarcastic, >> emotionally detached.

25:25>> Can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive on Sunday.

25:32No, Joy, but Joy left on time. Joyy's like big work life balance >> type. I think Joy is >> she strikes me more as a player,

25:43>> right? Who's just like >> I this is a job to me. This I play football as a job. I'm not gonna, you

25:50know, maybe Tedoro McMillan, you know, like I'm not I don't [laughter] like watching film. I And you know what? I'm good at watching film, but you, you

25:57know, actually might have a talent for watching film, but I don't enjoy it and that's, you know, it's fine. I'm here to

26:02I'm here to I'm here for [laughter] >> Yeah, I'm incredible at this. I also have other stuff going on.

26:08>> Some somebody in chat is asking who Dr.

26:10Mohan is. Uh, I have that as Mike McDonald, a meticulous, workaholic, data driven, very effective at disseminating

26:20information, and a diamond under pressure.

26:25Uh, wait, who did you say she was?

26:27>> Uh, Mike McDonald.

26:30>> Oh, wow.

26:33That's an interesting one. I think ideally in my in my uh world, Dr. Robbie is Shanahan. So, I'm trying to think

26:42someone who's sort of been >> I thought I thought Shanahan at first for for Dr. Robbie and settled on. It's just it's just you need you need some

26:53>> true dysfunction. You need the >> the potential for dysfunction, you know?

26:58Like there has to be vibes of dysfunction >> cuz Robbie is so so dysfunctional. I mean, my god.

27:07I mean, successful, but potentially highly dysfunctional, right?

27:11That's that to me is the >> Robbie in a nutshell. And uh I think Shanahan is at least has that potential.

27:20>> Okay. Maybe may maybe maybe maybe I'll switch before I end up >> okay >> uh writing this. Um Dr. Langden

27:29is Sean >> Speaking of dysfunctional >> Shawn Payton [laughter] very experienced sees things in a way that few others do.

27:40bit of an [ __ ] [laughter] was forced to take a leave of absence for something he did at work. [laughter]

27:48>> No notes. The only Well, the only note is it would be now I want we got to find like a Robbie because you want like a

27:55mentor mentee thing happening with the Langden Robbie coaches. It's going to be hard to pull off. But I mean that's pretty perfect for Langden. I I you kind

28:04of have to abandon that element of it and just go with a pretty damn good comp for for Langdan there.

28:11>> Mhm. Um do do a couple more here. Nurse Dana Liam Cohen talks weird. Gets in fights with colleagues. Thrives on

28:20chaos.

28:22>> Good. You're amazing.

28:24>> Uh Dr. Cassie McCay is Mike Vrabel. Gets too attached to people at work and it ruins their personal and professional

28:30lives. [laughter] You're cooking now. [laughter] >> You remember when the uh the computer system went down in season two and they

28:41had to bring uh Monica Peters, the retired hospital clerk back? Of >> course I do.

28:46>> That's Todd Monkin.

28:48>> They have zero time for your [ __ ] because they were brought in as a bridge to get everyone off of a quickly sinking

28:54ship. Also, they probably won't be here next season. [laughter] Um, >> Santos

29:04is Ben Johnson. You would think that being this intense of a [ __ ] would be exhausting, but they have a secret trick. You do it

29:13in bursts, or as you like to call it, intermittent lambasting.

29:21And uh, let's see.

29:24Uh, the the the kid who blew off his fingers with fireworks.

29:28>> Yeah. In season two, Jude Augustine, that's Dan Quinn. Egregiously bad decision-making led to a disastrous injury, which then led to everyone

29:39debating, does he need to be removed from this environment he's in?

29:47Last last one. Uh, Duke Eekans, the motorcycle mechanic, is John Harbaugh, hardo manic pixie dream buddy who's here to talk some sense into the main

29:58character harboring a death wish.

30:02Well done. Does that mean Jackson Dart is Dr. Robbie? Actually, [laughter] there was uh we had

30:13someone had a Dr. Robbie. Um, and then Laflur uh comp for uh Langden. Here it is. Kyle Shanahan is Dr. Robbie. Lafleur is

30:24Langden and Mike Shanahan is Dr.

30:28Adamson.

30:29Dr. Adamson is the >> is the, you know, father figure.

30:34Interesting since we literally have him.

30:37>> Yeah.

30:37>> His descended. He's the original, you know, Shanahan tree coming from father Shanahan. Uh, what do you think of the

30:46floor is Langden has not been suspended, so it's a little weaker.

30:51>> Yeah, I I I I think Shawn Peyton is a much >> It's got to be Shawn Peyton. That's got to be Peyton.

30:55>> Yeah, it's got to be Peyton.

30:57>> Yeah.

30:58>> Um, do you have you don't have a Huckleberry comp?

31:01>> I do. I do.

31:02>> Oh, you do.

31:03>> Yeah. Dennis Whitaker is Shane Stiken.

31:06Quiet, mildmannered, super sharp, gets visibly uncomfortable when he has to lie.

31:14>> Nice. All right. Who else did we not hit on? Uh, >> Pearl.

31:20>> Did you?

31:21>> Pear.

31:22>> Pearl is Robert Salah. Selfless. Born in the US to immigrant parents. Keeps a list of colleagues who act like Uh,

31:35Donnie Donny Hugh is Dan Campbell.

31:38Unwavering when the bullets are flying, a rock that radiates empathy, >> unafraid to step in and take over when someone on the team is flailing at their

31:48job. You know what I love about him being Donnie is I said the my only issue with um with Payton is that he can't be

31:57kind of a mentee to Dr. Robbie here.

32:00Donnie and Langden had kind of a buddy buddy relationship.

32:04>> They did. Yeah.

32:05>> And of course Dan Campbell uh comes from the Shannon from the uh from the Shawn Payeyton tree. So that that's a nice little connection there.

32:15Um, did you have uh who was the the uh the attending last

32:23season uh that ends up you know she's going to be subbing in for rock for Dr. Robbie? I'm I'm blanking on her name.

32:31>> Oh yeah. Uh Dr. Alashshimi.

32:34>> Dr. Alashshimi. Thank you.

32:35>> Yeah. Uh Kevin Okonnell an analytically driven and forwardinking.

32:40low-key stubborn has a different vision for the team than their colleague.

32:49>> Well, who's the colleague?

32:51>> Well, Quy for KC.

32:52>> Oh, >> and for her it's Dr. Robbie.

32:55>> Got it. Got it. Got it. I like it. Um, what about uh Melissa King?

33:01>> Dr. Mel is Kellen Moore. Young genius locked in on the spectrum.

33:12Okay.

33:16Um, all right. Did Wait, did we Oh, princess. Do you have a princess?

33:20>> Princess. I uh I don't have princess.

33:22Okay. I have Pearlo, but no.

33:26No. Princess. I I I do have um here we uh the John John Diggby, the homeless gentleman.

33:35>> Uh in season two is Kevin Stfansky.

33:39The last few years have been rough. This grimy cloud you found yourself in grew more repellent every day as onlookers silently thought to themselves there but

33:49for the grace of God go I. [laughter] But now you've been cleaned up and offered helpful resources. Will this be a new lease on life or just a temporary

33:58reprieve from it?

34:00>> And and in this uh who was Huckleberry again? Huckleberry was Shane Stiken.

34:08>> So you're saying Kevin Stfansky has stolen Shane Stiken's ID. [laughter] >> That's right. He's going to look at fireworks >> with with a mannequin.

34:19>> Yeah.

34:20>> Beautiful. All right. [laughter] Some extremely minor spoilers there for uh for the pit, but >> nothing that'll ruin your enjoying

34:28enjoying.

34:28>> Yeah. Um, we do we do have a couple other pieces of coach speak. Uh, if you want to touch on them, let's do it

34:37>> real quick.

34:38So, in that same interview that John Harbaugh did on the Dominique Foxworth show, uh, they asked him something that we've been waiting for the entire off

34:49seasonason for someone to ask John Harbaugh, which is the importance of figuring out a way to make sure that Jackson Dart stays

34:57healthy and protects himself. And Harbaugh said, "Definitely important.

35:01He's aware of it. You got a fine line."

35:04I remember hearing the same thing about Lamar Jackson, especially after the first season. People saying it's unsustainable the way he plays, that

35:11it's never going to last, that you have to protect him and he can't run as much.

35:15You say something like that to to Lamar, he looks at you like you've got three heads. Like, no, I'm going to play ball.

35:20And I just knew and I trusted that he was going to protect himself because he wants to be out there and he wants to

35:25play. It's not the type of sport where you can put yourself in bubble wrap. I do think play the game in a way that

35:31respects the fact that there are other guys out there that are capable of doing damage to you when you have the ball in

35:37your hands. That is especially important for the quarterback. And I trust that Jackson understands that. And then uh Dominique Foxworth asked him whether

35:48prioritizing fullback and tight end is a part of the plan to keep Dart healthy.

35:51And Harbaugh talked about how Jackson's capable of a lot of different things.

35:56Can live in a lot of different worlds.

35:58He can live in a power running game.

35:59Obviously, power running game protects the QB. Um, and uh, we can get into the gun, the pistol. We can run RPOS's, we

36:07can run quarterback driven runs with Jackson Dart and a lot of the stuff that we did in Baltimore with Lamar.

36:16So, it sounds like they're not going to try to put any governor on them. Um, when it comes to >> That's good. I think I think that's

36:25good. Um, I think Dart obviously needs to put a bit more of a governor on himself.

36:31>> He needs to adjust. You know, we're going to trust Lamar to protect himself out there. We're going to we're going to

36:37trust Jackson Dart to protect himself.

36:38Like I think one of those will go better than the other. Um, at least based on what we saw last season. But I mean,

36:45Dart, he he played well. You know, I think I honestly I think that Dart is getting a little disrespected based on what he did

36:55as a rookie. Like he was from, you know, an EPA perspective a lot better even than Tyler Shuck. Um, and a lot better

37:04than Cam Ward. And he just it gets kind of brushed under the rug a little bit because the way that he plays is literally

37:15dangerous. And people, you know, I think rightfully have questions about whether or not he can sustain it. But from a fantasy perspective, I think we're

37:25better off if the offense builds, you know, around the quarterback uh in a style that that emphasizes his strengths as a player rather than tries

37:37to kind of put him in a box because that's how you get a bust, you know?

37:42That's how you get a guy who's like, "Actually, this isn't working." And at this point, we're probably just better off moving on to a different quarterback

37:50where I think playing with him as essentially a dual threat and kind of a Jaylen Herz sort of, you know, he's not maybe the most

38:00explosive runner, but he's pretty pretty good at at at moving the chains and uh certainly an extremely willing runner.

38:08And we're gonna we're gonna build around that and then hope he can figure out how to protect himself a little bit more. I

38:12think gives you the upside of him actually working out as a quarterback you can build around.

38:18>> Yeah. You you you just can't take that stuff away from him. It's such a big part of his game. It's such a big part

38:25of what makes him a very very good weapon. Like if if if you just say, "All right, we're not going to we're not

38:32going to run him. We're going to do kind of the Jaylen Herz stuff from last year where we have really no design runs for

38:40this guy and we'll see what happens. Um I don't think that's very good. You don't we don't want him being, >> you know, a a statute

38:50>> in the pocket.

38:52>> No. [clears throat] No. I I don't even think like that. I just don't think that'll work. He's That's not how he wants to play.

38:58>> Yeah.

38:58>> Um that's not how he was successful last year. And you know that mobility is a real weapon.

39:04And I think what could happen is that in 2027, 2028, we start to see him take a step forward as a passer and

39:15start to, you know, add to his game where he actually can start to run a little bit less. I mean, we've certainly

39:22seen Josh Allen get better as a passer uh over the years. He's still an incredibly dangerous runner as well, but uh Aman Ross St. Brown here I think is

39:34pretty sweet.

39:35>> Oh yeah.

39:36>> Um but yeah, we've seen uh you know these guys get better as

39:44they go as actual passers. And that rushing can be you know essentially just like a little bit more time for you to

39:53learn. you know, it can be a way for you it can be like a way to to make the learning curve a little less steep. Um,

40:00and so yeah, I I just think yeah, if you if you try to take that away from him now, you're you're most likely just

40:09going to get fired. You know, you're probably just you're going to move on to a new quarterback, but that that might

40:16not be you who gets to develop that guy, >> right? Um, we also

40:24got some GM speak from Eric Dcasta uh four days ago.

40:32And uh I see people in the chat talking about Zay Flowers. Oh, by the way, Zayn uh DM'd me a link to this interview that

40:40Dosta did on uh like a Baltimore radio station, I believe it was. So, hat tip there. Uh, we're about to pick, right?

40:52>> Yeah. Chase Brown, Devonte Chan, Brock Bowers at the top of the sidekick.

40:56>> I'd be Brown or Bowers here.

40:59>> Uh, let's go Brown.

41:03They asked uh D Costa about, you know, if he wants to get an extension done with, say, flowers before the start of

41:10the season. He said, "Yeah, definitely."

41:13Um, obviously they're very invested in Flowers. And then they asked, "Hey, how how do we get Rashad Baitman going consistently?" And Dosta said, quote,

41:24"He's a phenomenal athlete, great route runner. It's right there in front of him. He's shown flashes of being a real problem for other teams. His mindset is

41:34good. I'm really, really excited to see how he does this year with Declan in this offense. Everybody's excited about him. He's going to have a lot of

41:42opportunities this year. Last year was just kind of a lost season in some ways, but that's no indication of the type of

41:49player that we think he is and how he can help us. I love the guy. I know he's probably his biggest critic, but he's a

41:56playmaker and I expect him to have a great year this year. I'm excited about him and I can't wait to see how he looks

42:02in this offense." End quote. This sounds like a guy who's going to be the starting X, win the season. kicks

42:10off how how long he holds on to that. Um I'm curious because he was pretty bad last year. Yeah. Commanded no

42:21targets and this was even before his ankle injury that he suffered in I think November like week 10 I want to say.

42:30>> Um earned like barely well had just over one reception per per game last year. a

42:39pretty pretty high A dot over over 12 last season. Has had a couple pretty decent years in his career. He's going

42:48to be I think 27 this year, so it it's not like this is an old washed player, but what like what do you think about

42:57Baitman this year if and last year he had one double- digit game? One game where he had a little over I think 17

43:05DraftKings points. I mean, maybe that's okay in the in the 20th round. Maybe we can get two of those if he's able to stay

43:14>> healthy [clears throat] this year.

43:17>> Yeah, he's been a tough guy for me to want to invest much in. And DraftKings uh in the in the 19th and 20th round. I

43:25I somewhat open to him, but it's it's tough to see, you know, all that much upside. even like there's guys like

43:35Christian Kirk down there where you're like, "Yeah, Kirk I kind of think is going to lose this job over time, but

43:42what if he's actually like pretty productive early in the year?" Uh where he's competing with Stribbling for the slot roll, he wins that job. You know,

43:51KD's not 100%. And so he's actually like kind of like you're getting like three or four weeks that matter out of them,

43:59but they're all early, >> you know? So, it there's certain teams where that could be pretty useful. Bree going there is a bummer.

44:06>> How do you feel about Z?

44:08>> I'm good with Z >> with a with a uh Cincinnati bring back.

44:12>> Yeah, let's do it. Um, [clears throat] so yeah, it's just a little bit tough to feel like you're not getting much

44:20safety. You're not getting like this guy who should be like rolling early in the season. um because you know the offense

44:27is going to be built around Zay and then Andrews is probably the second target and uh then at the end of the year

44:33you're looking at probably these rookies playing more. So you you start to worry about you know you have this limited window of production that's probably

44:42more early season and what even is that production? So it's just like one of those like it's like kind of what is

44:49this dude really doing for me? On the flip side of that, he is an outside starter in an offense that could score a

44:56lot of points and maybe he just holds that all year.

45:00>> Um, so I have taken him a little bit, you know, in the in like the 20th round.

45:06I think he's he's clickable. It's just not someone I've I've gotten really excited about at any point.

45:13Yeah, I I do think he's probably the the favorite for second most routes among wide receivers, you know, after

45:22>> I think that's fair after hours.

45:25>> But sort of like so what? Cuz if you could get the combo of the rookies, right? Or like you could pick like he

45:34probably will run the second most routes but you know is there a point at which he is like fourth >> you know has he gotten passed by a

45:46couple guys >> and will he will he have the second most production right because you could have the second most routes but be like third

45:54in production say if it's >> oh we're on the clock here >> Jacob >> Yeah. Yeah, >> the ETN fall has been a little kind of

46:03funny because >> uh >> you called it Camar was going to be there.

46:10>> You you called it. You said they're they're they're going to force him to take a pay cut, which they did. They

46:16stuck stuck to the >> stuck. Yeah. I I thought he had won the the standoff, but they he I guess they

46:22they just really wanted that pay cut, so they got it.

46:24>> Yeah. Well, we we talked about how he screwed himself over because he was saying that place or I don't play at all. I'm

46:35not going anywhere else. Yeah. Right.

46:37They're like, "All right, cool. Sounds sounds [laughter] good to us. How about a lot less money, buddy?"

46:45>> That's so funny.

46:46>> Yeah.

46:47>> Yeah. He really did. He did not He did not uh Alvin Chimera is not going to go into negotiations. He's not going to do uh

46:56mergers and acquisitions after after football, you know. [laughter] >> Yeah. Oh, man. Imagine him being your financial advisor.

47:07>> Yeah. I think that >> Well, the only the only company we're willing to to sell to is you. So, we're

47:13either going to go out of business or you'll buy us, >> right? [laughter] By the way, uh I I I I tweeted this out last week,

47:24but the Ravens have not said a s a a a single thing about Devontez Walker this off season. And yet some people are

47:34like, in fact, uh Ravens beat writer for the Athletic was saying, "This guy looks so good in training camp. He is he's the

47:44wide receiver three for Baltimore this year. But that guy has not asked a single question about Devontez Walker, which which is kind of weird. Like if if

47:56if this guy's looking so good, >> it's a perfect opportunity. You have you have the same GM but a a a new head

48:04coach, new staff of coaches.

48:08May maybe be like, "Hey, um, this this this was Eric Dosta's pick, but you guys came in, you drafted a couple rookies.

48:16Devonte Walker has looked good. What is his place on on this team on the depth chart?" And we've gotten none of that.

48:26No questions about him. They haven't mentioned him u when they're talking about the wide receivers which you know Eric Dosta is talking about Leonte

48:35Wester when when they ask him about who has made unbelievable strides in OTAAS and in in mini camp. Um yeah it's just

48:46it's the Roshan Johnson Kamani Videl stuff.

48:51>> Yeah.

48:52>> Well those guys we we weren't getting that. That's actually uh slightly different because we weren't getting any reports on on especially Videll uh what

49:02was even happening there. We're on the clock. We have Bucky Irving falling to us and then Lamar Jackson >> also popping as a pretty good pick here.

49:10>> Bucky still falls. I I think there's a possibility we could get him. Uh >> if we're trying to get both, the way to

49:16play it is to take Lamar.

49:17>> Let's do that, >> which I'm fine with. Sure. And I like it seems >> crazy that Bucky would come back. He he

49:23does come back sometimes. It's it's now only >> it's more of a reach to take him than it would be a fall for him to get back at

49:31this point. And of course he does immediately go, but >> uh I still think it was an defensible play. Um >> you're you're right that it is different

49:41because they are like someone is talking about him where they weren't talking about Roshan or >> it was pure fantasy. The worst position

49:48to be in is fantasy loves you. Beats never heard of you. Coaches won't talk about you.

49:55>> That's a bad spot. That's a dangerous spot to be, >> right? Uh >> then you go ahead.

50:01>> Well, I was going to say also the context of Devontes Walker looking good. A lot of these fast guys look good with no pads on when

50:12they're in OTAAS and and mini camp.

50:15Also, I believe that Baitman was was out like not out there and um Elijah Serat, I believe, missed some time

50:26as well. So, there were there weren't really many receivers out there.

50:31>> Now, I'm starting to understand why why Leonte Wester came up. [laughter] >> Yeah.

50:38>> All right. So, Joe Burrow is at the top here with Chase Brown. Uh, and as part of this kind of this week 17 bringback,

50:47I'm kind of into this.

50:49>> Let's do it.

50:49>> Uh, >> with this big final, uh, and if you pull out a little trick here, if you want to check the final size, just pull this

50:55out. 1,89 seat final. 22, 1, 1, 10,89.

51:02>> Uh, it's a pretty big final size.

51:05Sometimes when I get a little bit of these teams that are like, oh, not sure a lot of people are going to build like

51:10this. I don't I don't mind having teams like that, you know, because uh you might get to the final and have a team

51:17that's a little dissimilar >> from uh from the other teams with the good players you needed. I I also like to be in that

51:27110s, 120s, 130s range and not always having to look for a quarterback. Like, oh yeah, I got to grab a quarterback

51:35here when there's a lot of receivers or tight ends or, you know, some some some running backs that I like grabbing in

51:42the area as well.

51:44>> I like that point, too. Yeah, it mixes up the build, gets gets some exposure to guys that aren't like awesome picks

51:51because the normal course of things I think it it does make sense to go quarterback in, you know, the ninth and

51:59the 10th at a good at a pretty high rate, but uh even the eighth, but yeah, we we aren't going to need to do that.

52:06>> Yeah. And there are some good picks down there non-c quarterback edition.

52:11Yeah, I think uh the TZ Walker one's interesting. I I sometimes do Do you guys like So there's the the kind of the

52:19fantasy football sort of doesn't matter what coaches are saying contingent the beat writer. Tell me tell me what you're

52:29seeing in terms of the and tell me what who you think looks good as the the reporter coverage and then you have the

52:35coaches getting getting the quotes which of course you're you're on that team.

52:39I'm imagining you guys kind of like an anchor man where there's the the groups of people. You've got your Trident out.

52:48>> I feel like I got more of a machine gun.

52:50>> Oh, okay. All right. [laughter] >> And and and a button connected to to like a a missile. [laughter] >> All right. Damn. I think you guys are

53:01the favorites. I'm going to price this.

53:03Uh yeah, you're you're minus 800 if you got a machine gun and a missile. Well, so so much of the so much of the beat

53:08writer stuff is like off of coaches. Oh, here's what the coach said in their presser today. But the problem is that

53:15they they often misquote >> uh these guys and and I know exactly why it's happening. Uh I'm not going to say

53:24why because uh it's actually like a little bit of a competitive advantage for me if they never fix this. if if if

53:32they never address why uh they are misquing these guys. U so figure it out yourselves. Um [laughter] there are there's like a handful of good

53:46ones where for instance the audio in Kansas City Chiefs pressers is like awful.

53:54So, every once in a while there will be like a word or a string of words usually from like it's harder to hear the question

54:03that's being asked. So, uh, Charles Goldman is a beat reporter for the Chiefs, and I know that anytime I have any question about what was what was

54:14said or whatever, or I'm looking for like the exact like making sure I have the quote correct, then I'll go to his

54:22Twitter account and this guy, >> Charles has figured it out, you know?

54:25>> He's figured it out. He has figured it out. Yeah. Uh, Luca Evans for the Denver Broncos, same kind of thing. Really,

54:32really, really good. uh beat writer there.

54:36So, Metaf uh is here. I like Lemon better, but Lemon's ADP is 87.4. He is pretty live to get back. We could try to

54:45take >> Metaf and then get Lemon.

54:48>> Let's do it.

54:49>> Uh let's roll them bones.

54:52>> As you can see, I'm pretty invested in Lemon as is. So, probably good for me to do things like this and try to push

54:59Lemon a little bit.

55:01>> I got a big old bag of lemon. a couple grand a lemon at this point, [laughter] >> dude.

55:07>> You want to hear one of the most >> hard >> You want to hear one of the most bearish things ever?

55:15>> Uh, let me find it here.

55:16>> If it's on Mai Lemon, I don't think I do.

55:19>> It's It's related.

55:20>> Uhoh.

55:21>> Here we go. This is uh Zack Burman, who I believe is a U was he beat writer for the He's a senior writer for the

55:29Athletic covering the Eagles in the NFL.

55:32Nick Sirriani explored chat GPT this off season in keeping the message fresh entering year six.

55:40>> Jesus Christ, [laughter] >> bro.

55:44>> Dude, I like >> enough >> you can use LLM for a number of things.

55:50Keeping the message fresh is like the worst use of an LLM. They're just fed on old data. Like [laughter] the the

55:57message isn't fresh by definition. Hey Siri, >> how do I inspire my football team?

56:07>> To write that, you'll need to enable chat GPT.

56:16>> To write that >> Oh my god.

56:19>> Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

56:22He enabled it.

56:23>> That's exactly what he did.

56:31We figured his ass out.

56:33>> Oh my god. You good with Cororum here?

56:35>> Yeah.

56:37>> All right, let's do it.

56:40>> That positivity rabbit boy. They they got it ready.

56:44It's in It's in storage, but they brought it to the front. They brought that box to the very front. They knew.

56:50Yeah, we're going to have to break. My hope for the Eagles is that uh this year is that with the end of the

56:59year, what Eagles fans are freaking out about this there's a sort of a civil war of do we fire and hire Shawn Manion as a head

57:10coach? Uh or or are we gonna, you know, we had all the success and it's and Sirriani, he's he's the guy that

57:18matters. Let's keep him. And I'm just begging myself to to fade the Eagles once they keep Sirriani and let John Manion go. that

57:29once this happens, if if we live in a world where the Eagles are actually good, uh that if unless they unless they move

57:37on from Syriani and really do keep the message fresh by just hiring a new head coach that I mean, and I'm assuming Manion will be

57:49a needle mover on the offensive that that might not be true and maybe that's how they get the message fresh. They

57:54just they just reset after a failed manion to OC experiment. But man, that is that is bleak bleak stuff from

58:03Sirriani. It's the It's the last thing that I wanted to see come up on my feed when I have so much Jaylen Herz and so

58:13much Mai Lemon and good deal of Wix and some Sters and a bunch of sequel like, "Hey, Shad, I I need help uh

58:24creating this this little graphic on the on the goofy message that I've decided to come up with. Uh cuz I'm actually

58:32pretty bad at this and and I'll be asking you for help keeping the message fresh later. That that makes more sense.

58:37Just how do I keep the message fresh?

58:41>> What what what lived experience does chat GPT have running an NFL football team and inspiring players?

58:53>> What is the point of you if you like you're not the offensive >> The point is that he's dumb clearly.

59:00The point is that he is dumb. [laughter] >> That's That's not a good point. [laughter] >> That's a bad point. Don't be dumb.

59:15>> Why do we need a guy who's dumb?

59:17>> Listen, he's he's a plant and you need to water him in order for him to to grow.

59:25remember his that was his initial uh press conference metaphor thing.

59:32>> Oh god, that those leaves are looking pretty brown.

59:36>> Can we get Fannon on the way back? Do you think >> Fannon has got an ADP of 102? Probably not.

59:42>> Okay, I'm I'm good with him here.

59:44>> Uh let's see. Fannon. Yeah, I doubt he comes back. He's pretty close to >> Are we in the hundreds?

59:51>> Yeah, we're at 10 pick 104 there. I I can't believe he's going so late.

59:56>> He goes really late.

59:57>> I've got him ranked like 80th or right around there.

60:01>> He keeps falling and I I think it's maybe some Conception hype, but Conception is also cheap, so that doesn't even really make sense. I don't

60:10know. I guess the honest answer I don't really know why he's falling, but he is and I'm taking him. It's it it's like

60:18how in in when he was coming into the NFL, we just kind of ignored his college production or a lot of pes [laughter]

60:29of Fannon, but everyone was like, uh, you know, kind of poo pooing the >> Yeah, >> the college production and now we're

60:35doing it with with his NFL production.

60:38We're like, h probably not that sticky.

60:41>> That's what I'm saying. It's crazy to me.

60:44>> Damn, we almost got Brooks. Yeah.

60:47Yep. Uh Rashad White is a running back four. Jacobe Meyers, Travis Kelce, Wendell Robinson, Romeo Dobs. Very good with Rashad White here.

60:56>> Yeah, I think I think White makes quite a bit of sense for the team.

61:00>> I feel like there's a tear drop off from Jonathan Brooks and then another one right after.

61:08>> Yeah.

61:09>> So, we are through uh round 10, halfway through. started with Aman Ross Brown, then Chase Brown, then Zay Flowers, Josh

61:18Jacobs, Lamar Jackson stacked with Flowers, Joe Burrow stacked with Chase Brown, uh DK Metaf for a wide receiver, three in the seventh, Blake Cororm,

61:29Harold Fannon, and Rashad White. So, two running backs, four running, two quarterbacks, four running backs, three wide receivers, and a tight end.

61:39Yeah, this is setting up for a little Aaron Rodgers later probably. Perhaps uh >> Jim Jim in the chat asking expecting a

61:50higher pass rate for the Browns being high on both Fannon and KC Conpsion. I mean this defense is probably going to

61:57be pretty bad. You you've talked about this uh Pat with Miles Garrett gone.

62:02They they do get verse but there's a big difference between those two. Also they don't have Jim Schwarz >> anymore which is Yep.

62:11>> kind of big. Yeah, I think last year a little bit under the radar is that you could pass on the Browns and the kind

62:20the big weakness of their of their team was the secondary and uh the reason that people didn't just pass on them all the

62:28time was the edge rush and you know Miles Garrett. So, you had teams that you you you look at the matchup with the

62:37Browns and they had a great run defense and a great pass rush and if you kind of backed yourself to pass, then you could

62:46actually be pretty successful. But if you were kind of playing a little more cowardly and wanted to just, you know, ek out a close win against a bad team,

62:55then you could run the ball and and kind of be a little bit more inefficient. But I think with Garrett being gone, um,

63:04Verse obviously is a good pass rusher and they had some other guys, but it's tough. Garrett was so dominant last year, it's tough to even know like how

63:12good the rest of the the line was like without Garrett. Like Verse is good, >> but I don't know if he's an he's going

63:19to elevate everyone else on the line the same way that Garrett was doing. And so it's just a little bit of an open

63:25question to me like is is this pass rush good enough to hide what was a pretty bad secondary last year actually. So uh

63:32and maybe maybe the secondary takes a step forward. I don't know. You know that that is possible. But there's at least some upside for this defense to be

63:41like oo this defense is not good. You know this is a defense team. This is a passfunnel defense actually. This is a

63:47this is a team we're targeting offensive players on in weekly games. Yeah.

63:52because they're going up against the Browns. It could be a real shift like that.

63:55>> Opposing quarterbacks all going wrist wrists up.

63:59>> Yeah, for real. Which would obviously push the Browns. Mark Andrews here seems pretty great. Yeah.

64:06>> So, double stack with Lamar now.

64:08>> Uh Flowers and Andrews.

64:11And we're going to tack on Baitman of course in the next round.

64:15>> Hey, you you got the report. He started.

64:17No. Uh he's he's in play in the final round maybe. Uh the receivers are a little bit cleared out. We're seeing

64:25tight ends, even quarterbacks, running backs. Not seeing many receivers here because they're just really been wiped out where Khil Shakir is gone or she is

64:35now gone. Casey Conpsion, Coker, this whole tier is basically wiped out. This is one of the things drafting with the sidekick uh you know with the Sims is

64:44that it's really tough once uh like a big tier break has happened at a position you need uh we don't see a lot

64:53of like hey pull this guy up a couple rounds because you might get you might get boxed out. It's like well yeah you

65:00might but it's a game where uh you got to have a really good team. So instead of trying to like cover your ass at

65:06receiver where we only have three through seven, we're probably going to play for these receivers in round 13 plus. Take a non-

65:15receiver here in the meantime.

65:17>> Oh, they save us.

65:21>> Uh we could go Woody Marks. We could go Chris Rodriguez. I'd actually be fine with that.

65:26>> I'm going to Rodriguez here.

65:27>> Okay, let's do it. Uh he has fallen quite a bit.

65:31>> Yeah. from uh from where he was.

65:33>> And I think that ADP is going to shoot back up in in training camp. Um especially if he's ready right at the

65:41beginning. Liam Cohen was saying that he's going to be a full go for training camp.

65:49Yeah, that'll be interesting. Uh and I've been take I I went on uh the Ro football show with Rotoat, you know, was

65:56talking Bashalt to being a really easy fade. That was a great show, by the way.

66:00>> Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that was fun. And uh we debated Bashalt Tutin, of course, who's my second highest drafted running

66:06back, and I'm a believer in uh in the talent there. But we didn't take tootin.

66:11We took Chris Rodriguez on that team who fell, you know, I think to the 13th round maybe or the the 12th round

66:19anyway. And uh made sense for the team to add a running back there. So I am open to Rodriguez at this reduced price.

66:25I mean, he's definitely someone who could uh I mean, like, it doesn't even need to be the lead back at this price.

66:31Like, committee back uh you know, mixing in for some usable weeks in the same way that like you might get from Katon

66:39Mitchell, but I mean, he's got a lot more potential for like a 1A role. Like, who's getting 15 carries in a week? I

66:46could see that from Chris Rodriguez. saw last year uh you know at times with the Commanders uh without an injury like Toutton's just

66:54not Toutton fumbled. Toutton just kind of isn't delivering those big runs and he's starting to fumble a little bit and they're just like you know what we're

67:02getting kind of the same thing from Chris Rodriguez but it's a little bit more reliable. Let's just use him. You know, it's not like the biggest win type

67:11profile but >> yeah he's fallen into the 12th. I think it's good. Yeah, he's he's a guy who can hit your your lineup uh every once in a

67:20while. Probably not going to be kind of, you know, any league winning smash play, but has has some utility to him at at this

67:30price 100%.

67:33Denzel Boston here at the top of the sidekick, our second Brown if he gets back to us and I think would be a pretty

67:39good pick for us. Uh but unfortunately Travis Hunter and Omar Cooper are gone.

67:46Those guys have just been such cheat codes in the 140s.

68:00All right. Uh do Boston here. Yeah, I'm good with Boston if you are. Yeah.

68:09Double up on the Browns.

68:12Brown's passf funnel. We're betting on it.

68:18Uh, all right. So, we have 2542 now through 13 rounds.

68:28And yeah, kind of an interesting build where we took our first running backs in the second, second running backs in the

68:33fourth, then waited till the eighth, 10th, 12th. So, we have uh the potential to go for, you know, six running backs

68:40or so here. Not like uh I don't know.

68:44This is one of those builds where it does it's not really a hero running back. It's not really hyper fragile. You

68:50know, we took two through four, but only two through seven. So, it's sort of a I guess it's kind of a balanced build

68:57really. We did the double elite quarterback is I guess the main thing that jumps out from a construction perspective.

69:06Debo's popping here. No coach speak on dbo. I would like to get some coach speak on dbo soon.

69:10>> Well, he's got to be on a team.

69:12>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. [laughter] >> Give me some coach speak, man.

69:19I give you some old coach speak. Let me pull Let me pull up some old coach speak on Debo. Yeah, let's

69:24take here.

69:26>> Here we go.

69:26>> Um, here's what I'll say for Debo. Uh, I I went because I I do these check-ins basically. They're like, "Should I panic

69:35check-ins on Debo?" Because, you know, he hasn't signed and everything. And uh I found uh a YouTube series that Debo's been posting uh called Offseason and

69:46it's just him working out and doing but it's like it's like a kind of a mini dock kind of kind of thing. Like it's

69:54him going and some guys like showing him some football related bench press thing.

69:59It's like you got you you hold it. It's like bench press but you're holding it like this and then you're like yeah you

70:05know like getting off press coverage I guess. I don't know.

70:08>> Um, >> but Debo's cranking those out and then he's running routes and stuff and catching footballs and doing football player stuff. So, I'm like, okay, he's

70:16calling it off season. He's working out a lot. He is doing everything he's talking about is like, I need to do this

70:22to get better at football. So, I'm like, seems like he wants to play football.

70:25Uh, it seems like he's in shape to play football.

70:29Probably going to play football would be my guess. So, you know, just uh you know, occasionally I'll just check in, make sure he's still doing that kind of

70:37thing because he obviously isn't on a team, which is a little concerning for the downside, but I remain convinced that he is going to sign, you know,

70:46early in August or at least by mid August and uh and play football this year.

70:51>> This is a a self-produced >> little self-produced >> series that he's doing. I mean, that's even more bullish, I think, that

71:00>> he's he's putting time and effort and money into >> putting this out there to show the world that he's ready.

71:06>> Yeah. He's he's showcasing what he's what he's doing. Now, I think Debo's uh like his thumbnails aren't aren't super great or whatever. Like, doesn't seem to

71:14be getting a lot of traction. His main audience, it's mostly like it's like eight views and I'm six of them kind of

71:19thing. [laughter] >> He wouldn't be in the finals on So, you think you can tell >> he wouldn't be in the finals. Yeah, he'd

71:26be in an elimination challenge.

71:27>> Sorry, Debo. We don't think you can tout.

71:30>> Debo, make the case for Deshaawn's dribbling this year. Uh yeah, he would be uh eliminated like like weeks ago uh

71:40for sure. But uh at the same time, that's fine. We don't need him to tout. We don't need him to to gain traction on the algo. I

71:47mean, to be honest, you that could be bearish if he was too good at getting YouTube revenue. You know, maybe he

71:54doesn't need to play football.

71:56>> Yeah, that's that's the danger. We don't Nobody go watch a series.

72:01>> No, don't watch it.

72:02>> Don't if you get if you get an ad, you click away. You click away. [laughter] Don't you don't need any incentive for Debo to

72:14sit this year out.

72:20>> KD and we're recruiting Debo on Instagram. That would be so bullish, man.

72:25>> I I'm I'm I'm hoping it's not San Francisco, actually.

72:31>> I got a bunch of Evans. I got a bunch of dribbling.

72:34>> Bunch of dribbling. Bunch of Kirk. Bunch of Evans. Not so much Persaw, but he would hurt Kirk and dribbling >> quite He would hurt dribbling like a

72:42lot.

72:43>> A lot.

72:44>> Yeah.

72:44>> And Kirk would be zero. He' go I have so much Debo that I would I would take it if you just like sign here.

72:50>> Debo's a 49er. I would like and people would be yelling at me like don't do it Pat somewhere else. No, [laughter]

72:59we shaltz here. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Um yeah, they'd be like like Pat.

73:07What about scribbling? You said you guys sorry.

73:13>> Maybe stribbling will score in week 17.

73:16>> Monkeyy's [laughter] paw somewhere curling up.

73:21The bucky's paw is curling up and inside the paw is all my stribbling sharers.

73:26Just crushes them the dust.

73:31>> I would do that.

73:32>> And he does this and sprinkles them out and points at me. [laughter] >> I mean,

73:40>> uh, Dan Quinn, June 12th, 2025.

73:45Debo Samuel has been very impressive to me for maybe a different reason than I thought. playing against him. He was such a difficult person to tackle that

73:52you spent so much time figuring out how you're gonna tackle him.

73:55>> We're somewhere.

73:56>> Oh, >> Wix dribbling Hurst at the top of the the sidekick here.

74:03>> I mean, now I think we got to go Wix.

74:05I'm I'm scared after this DVO talk.

74:10>> Wix is at the top. So, let's uh let's go ahead and trust the sidekick there. It knows the Sims uh the Sims have seen the

74:17KD Instagram posting >> Quinn said a couple times last season about oh you know when Dibo gets the ball in his hands and gets going like

74:27I've seen this movie [sighs] before.

74:32He's not I don't think he's totally totally washed yet. He's he's he's he's on his way there. He's maybe washed adjacent

74:43Yeah, but I mean, you know, he's so cheap and you're getting a guy who I think will probably like I mean,

74:51frankly, Courtland Sutton is washed adjacent, I think. You know, like there's you're getting a guy where you're paying you're getting a role that

74:59will be priced higher than this once we know what the role is. Uh, and you know, I I mean Trey Tucker is a bet

75:10on routes basically and the routes on the Raiders.

75:14>> Uh, I think Debo Samuel's going to end up somewhere, project for some production and go in the >> we need Atlanta 12th or 13th round.

75:24>> Atlanta would be awesome.

75:28I don't I don't anticipate me drafting Debo Samuel a bunch once he's uh once he's signed. I mean maybe a little if he

75:37doesn't rise much, but like if he you know I could see him going ahead of like Shakir and stuff and Conpsion and that

75:43would I'd probably be out on him there.

75:46But I do think that you with these builds you know you have three wide receivers here through the seventh and one of them is DK Medaf which isn't like

75:54the highest upside swing. Ammon Ross St.

75:56around Z Flowers, DK Medaf, get to the 13th round. We grabbed Denzel Boston, grabbed Debo Samuel, grabbed Dantavian Wix, like is like filling out some of

76:05that depth and you're just betting on guys to be underpriced relative to that cost. I I think he's useful and it

76:14allows you to take a Chris Rodriguez, double stack Lamar with Mark Andrews, uh get Harold Fannon in the hundreds, like you know, fill out Rashad White as

76:23as your running back for like there's a lot of there's a lot of value in just being able to push that wide receiver

76:29who's more of like a 11th or 12th round value into the 13th or 14th. In this case, we got him in the 14th. So,

76:38yeah, it it's not like D.A. going to be some mega smash this year, but he does strike me as as underpriced because

76:45people are worried he just won't play.

76:47He's not on a team, so why am I drafting a guy who's not on a team? Like, I think that big it's a big mental barrier. He's

76:53not on a team. What are we doing here?

76:56what we're doing is trying to win $3 million >> by taking on like some risks, you know, and these are pretty small ones

77:05ultimately because uh it looks like he's still very much in intending to play football in 2026.

77:12>> Yeah, people are always worried about like what what if this one draft of mine is ruined by this pick, >> right? So Ted Hurst is is at the top

77:24here. Pat Famouth. We do we are starting to see some of the Ravens receivers. Sat actually has the higher ADP or earlier

77:32ADP of the Ravens guys. Um any thoughts on this one?

77:37>> H uh scroll down a little bit on the on the receivers there.

77:43Um yeah, Hurst or Brazle or Pat Bryant?

77:49I threw Hurst in a queue just because we were about to timeout. So we got him.

77:53Uh, fire again. Oh, guess actually does make uh sense for the team with Burrow >> and then uh Pat Bryant, Jacobe Lane, Brazil,

78:05Serat, Baitman. Do we see Baitman?

78:10He's down here, but he's he's after Devon Vele.

78:15after Vale, after Lane, after >> Baitman just goes.

78:21>> The Costa is drafting this one.

78:23>> Uh to the person in the chat asking about what the Raiders have said about Malik Benson, the answer is not much.

78:31>> Malik Washington?

78:32>> No, Malik Benson, the the rookie.

78:35>> Oh, >> for the Raiders.

78:38>> I see.

78:39Um, sorry. Mike Washington is what I was trying to say.

78:48>> Fire me with gold.

78:49>> Any of the any of the undercover rookies that have gotten coach speak, but we haven't talked about like, you know, that the Caleb Douglas's of

78:57the world, the you know, >> I'm trying to think any of those guys.

79:04>> I mean, we've gotten this Robert Henry Jr.

79:07>> Yeah. Yeah, that would be a perfect example.

79:09>> Yeah.

79:13>> Has there been much? I mean, I I I saw his name was mentioned in a list of guys.

79:18Masiki, I think, is pretty good here.

79:21>> Sure.

79:24>> Robert Henry Jr.'s name was mentioned in a list of guys.

79:27>> Yeah.

79:28>> Yeah. You know, they were talking about the running back room. This is probably over a month ago now. And he was he was

79:36listed. Yeah, he was listed before Bill Crosky Merritt.

79:40>> Yeah, not ideal.

79:47I'm looking through to see if I can remember any of the any of the rookie stuff. I mean, we've gotten a little bit

79:54of Skyler Bell, but I don't know if he's like >> okay >> under the radar enough to qualify for this.

80:01>> I think he he is >> category. Yeah, we got some pretty good stuff on him and seems like it'll be him

80:07versus Keon Coleman possibly to get in the lineup.

80:13>> Do you think if the commanders end up playing Robert Henry Jr. and pairing him with Jakory Kroski Merritt that we'll be able to call their

80:21backfield Billy Bob?

80:26>> Sure do like them mashed potatoes.

80:33You would sure would like a touchdown right here. [laughter] >> Does Sling Blade hold up? I'm not sure

80:44it will.

80:45>> I haven't watched it recently.

80:48Yeah. So, I'm not I'm not sure. I'll tell you what does hold up is the movie Boiler Room. Um, which I rewatched

80:58recently. Al also was uh had Scott Fishbowl this past weekend and Tom Everett Scott who's in boiler room uh was in my in my place. Super super nice

81:08dude. I think he's actually going to come on and do a draft >> with me.

81:12>> I've met him uh in Vegas. Good dude.

81:15>> Okay. He Yeah, he he he talked about what like NFC >> NFPC F what NFC

81:25>> NFC. Okay. But they also go by NFC for the football thing, so it gets confusing. Throw in the second half F if

81:31you want or not.

81:34>> Yeah, super nice. Um, yeah, he talked about doing that doing that draft in Vegas and uh I guess like seeing you and

81:43Pete and um also friends with JJ. But yeah, that that watching boiler room and just had it on

81:53as kind of background while I was doing some work. But the there there there are scenes that are almost exactly the same scenes

82:04as you see in Wolf of Wall Street like the like the kind of staging of all the All right, we're on the clock here. I'm

82:10good with Brazil.

82:11>> Yeah, me [clears throat] too.

82:14>> How all the brokers are gathered. say Lane is the last of the Ravens rookies if we want one, but his ADP's so late

82:20that we probably just get him anyway.

82:22>> Yeah.

82:26>> Um yeah, that that when when when Leo is talking in front of all the brokers and like the way that it's shot is shot

82:34similar in in both films. There's also when DiCaprio first gets his firm going, he's showing the guys how to convince

82:45someone on a call. Like there's that same exact scene >> in boiler room.

82:50>> Oh wow.

82:50>> As well. Yeah. So might ripped a little bit of boiler room off there.

82:55>> Scorsese.

82:59>> Maybe the the guy who was scamming people was ripping off boiler room.

83:10>> [laughter] >> I mean that might I mean I think the timing of that might work out that he watched Boiler Room was like I'm going

83:16to do that [laughter] dude very possibly.

83:22>> Yes, Vin Diesel was in Boiler Room. Uh Ben Affleck, Giovani Rabisi.

83:30Um I think is it Neil? Was it Neil Long.

83:37Let's see.

83:42Yeah, Neil Long. Nikki Cat, Scott Khan, our guy Tom Everett Scott.

83:51Oh, yeah. Somebody mentioning Boiler Room. Kind of a Glengary ripoff. So, full circle.

83:59Uh, all right. Jacobe Lane.

84:01>> Yeah. him as the final pick here.

84:03>> Completes a triple stack >> and the bring back. Man, we've got this this Bengals Ravens game stacked up.

84:11>> Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Zay Flowers, Chase Brown, Mike Cassiki, Jacobe Lane, Mark Andrews.

84:20This game's going to blow the f up.

84:24>> Highlight this comment from Chad Candles.

84:33making the call to his prospective client. This just came across my desk and it's Katon Mitchell in round 11.

84:41>> Katon Mitchell in round 11 does feel like Wolf of Wall Street level uh movie like Scorsesei will make a movie about

84:48the Katon Mitchell ADP at some point.

84:52>> Yeah. Um just came across my desk.

84:56little known mom and pop player uh coming out of Baltimore, just relocated to Los Angeles called Katon Mitchell.

85:05Now, it's a it's a pink slip stock now, but this is this is a big play that we're all on.

85:12>> The wanted posters got to be part of the cell there. [laughter] >> Yeah, the coach put up wanted posters.

85:19He's he's talking about, you know, different different sizes, different angles, different speeds. Now, I don't know how long you've been paying

85:28attention to fantasy football, but wanted posters. We don't see a lot of that. I've been doing this for a long time, long longer than I care to admit,

85:36frankly. And it's I can remember on one hand the number of wanted posters I've seen for a player, much less a running

85:44back. And this is one of the fastest running backs in the league. Okay. I I I think we we get you in here. We 11th or

85:5011th round's going to be a deal by August. We're talking ninth. We're talking 10th round [laughter] prices. I mean, I I would, you know, I I think

85:57this is an opportunity you're going to be very sorry to have missed out on unless we get you in here. Sorry. I've

86:02actually got another call, another client, uh, Davis Maddox trying to put in some more shares for Katon Mitchell.

86:06Do you want Are we going to get this deal done now or should I take this call from Davis?

86:11>> Do you ask your wife if you can draft Derk Henry at the end of the second?

86:17Come on, man. Grab your balls. You're telling me if I give you Katon Mitchell on the 11th, take you out at Keaton

86:22Mitchell on the 7th.

86:25You and your wife aren't going to be back here on your hands and knees kissing my feet.

86:31ABS. Always be slappy. Always be slapping, I think, would be the better.

86:37>> Third string is a set of steak knives.

86:41Second string is you're fired.

86:46>> [gasps] >> I have bad news for Kamani Videl then.

86:52>> Enjoy those knives though.

86:53>> That's always so funny to me is that third place you get to stick around. You get you get a little something. Second

87:01place hit the [ __ ] bricks, pal.

87:06Should have been third. [laughter] >> Should have been third.

87:09>> I mean, it's actually a pretty It's optimal probably to play for third.

87:13>> Yeah. You get the knives. You don't get that.

87:15>> The guys The guys in second and third are just like tanking, >> right? Yeah. You better get third.

87:23>> It's actually easy to get first because everyone's playing for third, [laughter] >> right? They don't want to get fired in

87:28second.

87:28>> You got to play for downside.

87:30>> Yeah. Yeah.

87:32>> Oh, second place was steak knives apparently.

87:34>> Was it? I thought >> Hold on.

87:41While you look that up, uh, I did want to shout out I thought I had second was steak knives. Third is you're fired.

87:50>> That makes a lot more sense.

87:51>> Does make more sense.

87:52>> It is a lot.

87:53>> I like it the other I [laughter] like it the other way though.

87:58>> I was going to shout out Tom Ever Scott.

88:00Uh, everyone anyone who's seen uh I'm Sorry, which is a show that didn't get a lot of lot of pub, but I thought was

88:08pretty fun. Little comedy he's in. What what what was that on?

88:13>> I think I maybe saw it on Hulu or something. It's on I guess it's was on True TV originally.

88:19Uh looks like you can stream it on Roku channel right now. You got the Roku channel. You dude, you know what? I You

88:27know why I got the second and third place mixed up? I once wrote uh um like a halfhour comedy

88:38where like kind of paring that that um that scene for a little bit and I and I switched it up like for comedic effect

88:46where third place was kn second place was you're fired >> and then it became the truth in your head. That's hilarious.

88:54>> Yeah, >> that's [clears throat and snorts] hilarious. Uh, Andrea Savage is the is the star of the show and then Jason

88:59Manzukas has a nice has a nice recurring.

89:02>> I love Manzukus. He is >> Manzuk is hilarious, dude.

89:05>> [ __ ] funny.

89:06>> He's so good.

89:08>> So good. Uh, Roku channel equals how rich? I don't think so. I have a Roku TV and I'm pretty sure it just comes with

89:14it. I don't think, but you know, whatever.

89:20>> That's Roku City propaganda right there.

89:23>> Roku City propaganda. I I uh I listened to an interview with uh Jimmy Tetro who did um Real Bros of Semi Valley, which I

89:32highly highly recommend.

89:33>> What is it?

89:34>> Uh you haven't heard of that?

89:36>> So it's a So Jimmy Tat, I don't know if you saw American Vandal on uh on Netflix.

89:42>> No, I've heard good things about it.

89:44>> Very good. Very good. So he he's one of the leads in season one of that. Uh but he's been doing like YouTube stuff on

89:51his YouTube channel for for a while. uh and [snorts] started like a fake reality TV show about these bros in Semi Valley

90:01that are just like kind of the ultimate like California like they're all they they have the easiest lives like of all time but still

90:10find things to get like you know fussed about. It's it's quite quite funny.

90:16>> And so it's like a YouTube channel thing that he did. The first season is like five minutee episodes, you know, very

90:23much just like YouTube comedy stuff, but then he got Facebook TV or Facebook Watch, I guess it was called, to pick it

90:31up. And so now they're like 15inute episodes in season 2. And then in season 3, I think he got them out to like over

90:3720 minutes. They're like legit like TV length episodes now. But then they got buried on Facebook Watch. Facebook Watch like stopped investing, you know, it it

90:47became nothing ultimately. So he then they was kind of stuck in limbo because he had gone over to a failed streamer.

90:54So that the show just couldn't get any more traction. So he then was able finally to get Roku to basically like

91:02help him get back the the IP. So it it's all now on his YouTube. You can just go watch all the original three seasons on

91:10YouTube. And then they did a movie with Roku. Uh, so there's there's three three seasons and a movie now of Real Bros of

91:18Semi Valley. And but anyway, in this interview, he was talking about how he's talking to the Roku people and they're like, "We think you we can get you in

91:26Roku City." And it was like, "Cool, cool." But like, shouldn't that just be a given? Like, I'm doing a Roku movie.

91:34>> Yeah. [laughter] >> You can't get me into Roku City.

91:37>> It's very exclusive.

91:39>> Yeah. So, anyway, Real Bros. See Me Valley. I I love that. It's such a Yeah.

91:45Watch.

91:45>> Halton knows. Oh my god. See Valley Valley is [ __ ] hilarious. It's quite good.

91:49>> Bryce is like literally my one of my favorite >> all-time favorite characters. I don't know who this guy is. Like he's

91:55apparently like a DJ, this actor. Like I don't think he really acts.

91:59>> He's the one of the funniest guys.

92:02He's just he's just like he's unbelievable.

92:05>> I'm not sure if he's just playing himself or not. Yeah. Bryce is a musician DJ. He goes by Tara Reed. He's

92:11not even an actor. He's [ __ ] hilarious.

92:14>> Terror. [laughter] That's incredible.

92:20Anyway, all right. Uh we're we're [laughter] get out of here. Before Before we do, I want to uh just let the

92:27people know that we've got the sidekick over at legendary.com says sidekick. As you saw, you got the dynamic rankings, but you also have all these other uh we

92:35don't talk about them so much cuz uh you know, the rankings are kind of what drives the value uh of of the Sidekick

92:41subscription, but there are some kind of neat uh uh additional informationational tags here. You got your exposures, got uh did you draft a quarterback of this

92:51guy, the teammate, bye-week overlap, week 17 bringbacks. There's a notification sound, which I didn't have on here uh as we were going, but you

92:58just click the bell and uh there's a notification sound when you're on the clock, which can be quite helpful if you're multitasking.

93:06All of those features are included in a new tool that we're launching that's just static rankings. You can upload your own rankings, use ours, have the

93:14player sorted by ADP, uh called the kickstand, which is basically a sidekick light mode. And there's still just two tiers over at legup. the leg up tier,

93:23uh, 50, 15 bucks a month, 99 for the year, and the sidekick tier, which is 200 a month, uh, 500 for the year, which

93:29then includes all the playoff baseball and all the pre-draft stuff as well. Uh, and the leg up tier just includes the

93:34kickstand now. So, if you're a legup sub, you have the kickstand. It's live.

93:39We launched it. Uh, and if you want to become a legup sub, as I mentioned, just 15 bucks a month, 99 for the year there.

93:46Uh, hope to see you guys over there because it includes all of our rankings, all the articles, uh, everything over at

93:53Legup uh, minus the Sidekick basically.

93:55Uh, and now it includes this uh, additional tool called the kickstand.

94:00So, just adding value to that sub. Uh, and, uh, if you're already a legup sub, you have it now. So, hopefully uh, you

94:08enjoy that. And to install it, you just go to the same install page at the top of the the site. Um, and it's all under

94:15the same extension. So, uh, if you want to check it out, uh, it's legup legendaryupsite.com/kickstand.

94:22And if you want to check out the sidekick, legendaryupsite.comsidekick.

94:26So, yeah, that's all live. Um, anything you want to uh, tell the people out about before we get out of here.

94:33>> Yeah, doing a draft tomorrow at 400 pm Eastern with JJ Zacharzen on my channel, CoachSpeakindex, CoachSpeakindex online. And then obviously the coach

94:44speak index discord which is the most valuable resource in all of fantasy football. Hell yeah. I'll be back tomorrow for Top Guy Tuesday where I'll

94:54just be taking the top recommendation on the sidekick for every round and answering questions from the chat and the leg up Discord as I do every week

95:02for the mailbag pod on the channel. Hope to see you guys there. Thanks for watching. Uh good luck in your drafts

95:09and I'll see you tomorrow.

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