0:01Welcome to the Legendary Upside podcast and YouTube channel. My name is Pat Grain. You can follow all of my content at legendary upside.com. With me today,
0:08Rich Reebar, Sharp Football Analysis.
0:10Reeves, how's it going? It's going good.
0:13I'm actually excited to talk about this slate because this uh you know, from 10,000 ft view is like the tightest like
0:20from a DFS perspective, like one of the tighter slates. Like throughout the week, we didn't get like four running backs that opened up like pricing and
0:26made everything fluid again. So, I think this is the first like uncomfortable week of fantasy football from a DFS perspective where like not everyone's
0:34just like, "Oh, this is all cushy and we're playing all the good plays."
0:37>> Yeah. No, that's true. So, yeah, for this is our Angles and Upside podcast.
0:41We're going to be talking through the main slate um of games, the 10ame slate on Sunday. Uh and this is not a DFS
0:51exactly, but we'll kind of be talking through what we think is going to happen in the games, which obviously applies to
0:55DFS. We both play DFS, so we'll be we'll be talking through what we like. Um, but yeah, before we get going, any any
1:01promos you got going or anything you want to you want to touch on? Let's uh let's let's plug some stuff at the top
1:06here.
1:06>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh nothing special in terms of promo code unfortunately. Uh we are going to have a free week coming up
1:11though pretty soon where like all the we always just do like a late season free week. But, uh, if I if we don't by
1:16somehow cover anything that you guys want to hear or you want to read about the London game or the the prime time
1:21games, I mean, all that stuff is over at Sharp Football Analysis, uh, where I share my, you know, DFS player pool, all
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1:47Only 10 bucks a month over there. But let's jump into it. Uh starting with the Saints at Panthers. Um this game kicks
1:56off the walkthrough because Rico Dowel was the cover boy this week. Uh on the Saints side, I was kind of encouraged
2:02that Tyler Shuck wasn't terrible. He was kind of rattlery last week. He was kind of terrible uh against the Bucks, but
2:09that was, you know, he wasn't expected to be starting in that game.
2:13>> Probably doesn't mean too much and gets his first start. Wheels don't completely fall off, which is good for this game
2:19to, you know, have a little bit of life.
2:20But on the other side, Rico Dao, man, 72% of snaps, 76% of carries, 17% target share last week. Hubard was truly a
2:29backup. They actually handed the backfield over to this guy and he was he was awesome again. He's currently running back two with a 50% success rate
2:37but per NFL nextG which is awesome. 19 rush yards over expected per game which is running back three. Um he's set up so
2:44well here. Uh Tedo McMillan dealing with a hamstring injury might miss this game.
2:48I'm not even sure it matters that much because the Panthers were going to just pound the rock here regardless and I
2:55think they'll be successful doing it. Um they're they are super super committed to the run. 58% pass rate, minus 6% pass
3:03rate of expected. And the Saints are a big run funnel with teams running, they have a 54% pass rate against them. Saint
3:10Saints opponents are averaging a 54% pass rate, which is just crazy low. Um, Saints aren't terrible against the run, but they're not a good team and they're
3:20not going to push you off of a runheavy approach. And the Panthers are just very ideologically committed to the run right
3:25now. And they found a guy that can lead the charge. So, Dowel uh will be will be chalk in DFS, but I think he's good
3:31chalk here.
3:32>> Yeah, 100%. Uh agree. It just all lines up. Like you said, like the Saints actually like they play the run all
3:38right, like they're middle of the pack and like in yards per carry out their running backs, but because they've trailed for 89% of their snaps to the
3:44highest rate in the league. Like, so they as a byproduct, they just face a ton of runs and like it doesn't matter
3:49if you're only giving up four yards a run. When you face 26 of them, you end up giving up a lot of runs per game.
3:54They do face the highest backfield attempts per game [snorts] and this is like just what Carolina wants to do, man. I mean, they're they're they're
4:0130th in drop back rate in neutral game scripts and their 30th and drop back rate playing with a lead.
4:06>> And we saw them at the end of last year, too. Like the took like the Chiefs to overtime. They almost beat the Eagles if
4:12Xavier Legette doesn't drop a pass. And like they've been kind of game this year, you know, again, they're not like exciting by any means. Like you're kind
4:19of mad they're good, but like they they keep pushing teams they they shouldn't push. They win most of the games they
4:24should win. Um, and it's just because they keep pounding the ball. What was more impressive about Donald's game last week, too, is the offensive line
4:30injuries just seem to not matter for this team. Like, >> yeah, >> they they've had seven different starting offensive line combinations now
4:37through uh nine games. Their most frequently used offensive line combination this season has only been on the field for 20% of their snaps. It's
4:45the lowest uh most frequently used line.
4:47They've had that thing where they they like one of their guards got curt hurt and then his backup got hurt. So now
4:53they're like on the third string guard like Yeah, there's it's kind of like the line overall isn't in shambles, but they
5:00have like one spot that get keeps getting hurt.
5:03>> Yeah, they just keep running the ball though, man. Even in spots where you think because they're just like they're just a run team. So uh and then doubt
5:11this goes back to last year too. I mean, his last nine starts, he's gone over 100 yards now seven times rushing. Like,
5:19it's not just this three game sample. I mean, he's third in the NFL last year.
5:23>> Yeah. He's he's third in rushing yards right now. And the dude basically pad like three starts.
5:29>> Yeah. And the Panthers, I think, is very clear.
5:32They came into the year and they were like a little bit more willing to like see if they could, you know, have Bryce
5:38Young like, you know, build off of what he did at the end of last year and kind of be what the offense was about. They open
5:44the season with a 68% pass rate against the Jags, which is right in line with expected. The average pass rate this
5:50year is 62%. So 6% above the average.
5:53They kind of were fine with like a pass heavy script. The following week they're at 80% pass rate. in that kind of that
6:00comeback mode where they they were like it was kind of a desperate comeback but like maybe they sort of had a chance
6:05against the Cardinals in that game. Uh it's 2% above expected. Then they they pivot. They have that blowout win over the Falcons. They they only passed 52%
6:14of the time. 59% against the Patriots, 57% against the Dolphins, 46% in the win over the Cowboys, 55% against the Jets,
6:2256% against the Bills, and just 43% in their win over the Packers. this is like working, you know, and on first and 10,
6:32uh, starting with the Patriots, they've been at a minus 20% poe, - 29, - 25, - 8, - 31 against the Bills, and then -6%
6:41last week, which tells you they're really, really prioritizing the run in neutral situations, which is great for the lead running back. When the defense
6:49doesn't know what's coming, they run the ball. So, it should help his efficiency a little bit compared to, you know, you
6:55could make you could make the case it's not a great way to run your offense.
6:58You're not prioritizing the passing game, which is a more efficient way to move the ball than the run game, but who
7:04cares? You know, they're going to they're going to they're going to run the ball a bunch and the guy we want to
7:08play is the running back >> and they're playing the Saints where it's not probably going to cost them to, you know, maybe be somewhat suboptimally
7:17analytically in terms of the offensive design. So, uh, yeah, they're not going to be I mean, and more importantly, like they're just predictable. Like, we know
7:25how they want to play football. This is a spot where they can play football that way. And the Saints, I think, will push
7:31back enough to, you know, the worry would be that they just blow them out and like we see Hubard at the end of
7:37this game. I don't think we get that.
7:39The Panthers aren't like good enough in the same >> Even if they do blow them out. Even if they do blow them out, it's going to be
7:44because of Dowel.
7:45>> Yeah, it'll be because of Dowel.
7:46Yeah, that's true. I mean, you know, it's not going to be for Bryce Young passing touch like the odds that it's for like
7:53>> they're not going to start tush pushing Bryce Young. I don't think >> Yeah.
7:56>> They should try like a tush surf where they just where they like crowd surf him over. [laughter] >> I did appreciate everyone sending us uh
8:04the images of the the Kyle the Kyler Bryce Young. [laughter] >> I think it could work if they just like like in a concert, you know, they just
8:14>> Yeah. Yeah. like a crowd surfing. Just push him over.
8:17>> Crowd serve. [laughter] >> Just chuck him.
8:23Um yeah, on the on the Saints side, anything jump out to you?
8:27>> No, I mean it's just going to be interesting to see the fallout of Rasheed Shahed. Uh obviously the Saints can't run the ball. It's a bummer to see
8:33what's happened to Alvin Kamara uh like over the course of this season. I earlier the week like when I was doing
8:39like uh my my prop bet show and I'm like going through the list and just seeing if anything stands out. I saw his his
8:44rushing propped open the week was 32 and a half and I was like oh gez this is like where we are and I was like I don't
8:49even think he's going to hit this. Like what are we [laughter] doing? Uh this is like how the mighty have fallen, right?
8:54I mean you look at last week 17 yards and uh just seven touches. He's he hasn't been a top 30 scorer since week
9:01six or an RB2 or better. He's been RB2 better in just one of his past seven games there. Tyson Hill was the leading
9:08rusher last week for and he had 30 yards. It wasn't like he was good either. Like it was just it's just bad.
9:12He's not catching the ball out of the back field. It's it's just it's just pretty gross, man. It's pretty >> They're kind of using Deon Neil in in uh
9:20like a third down back >> um pass protection stuff a little bit.
9:24So, >> and like basically they like Kamaro like asked them not to trade him cuz he like likes where he lives and like didn't
9:29even care about going to a contender.
9:31He's just like content to just kind of like be hanging out.
9:34>> He said, "I'm not leaving New Orleans."
9:36That's what he said. You can trade.
9:37>> It's a great city. It's a good city.
9:38>> I'm done with football then. No, I get it. I'm kind of respect it. He's like, "This is where I live and if you want me
9:44to play football, it's going to be here."
9:46>> Yeah. You don't need to give me touches.
9:47I'll just keep hanging out like >> Yeah. Uh it's it's you know what it is?
9:54It's kind of like it's a similar role to to Bree Hall in a way where he's he catches passes but not necessarily like
10:00there's also an Isaiah Davis or where Deon Neils was at 42% route participation last week. So like he's stealing meaningful receiving work even
10:09if he's not getting a ton of targets. Um but then it's like Bree Hall with just no burst, you know. Um because Chimera's
10:17he's he's got a 28% success rate, running back 46.
10:21uh running back 45 and rush yards over expected per game. He's got 0.68 yards per outr run. This used to be like a
10:27like a two yards per out run guy. Like it's it's really over. So the Chris Lave and Jawan Johnson I think you know
10:35targets will consolidate here uh with Shahed gone. Lave though was like already really underperforming his volume. So, it's like hard to like more
10:45volume's good, but >> it's not like, man, he's going to crush now. You know, he's already been getting more volume than he could kind of
10:52deliver on. And >> so, I have him as like a high-end wide receiver, too, in the ranks. And, you know, he's a pretty strong seasonl long
10:58play, but I don't think I'll be I want him in DFS.
11:02And then Jawan Johnson is probably the guy actually most interested in for for DFS on the Saints side. Um, >> you know, he's he's look like he started
11:12really strong. we got excited. Then he had target per outr run numbers of 11, 15, and 8% uh in the middle part of the
11:20season so far. And that's obviously concerning. Yard per outr run uh in that stretch of 1, 0.65, 0.63. The target numbers are back up, not to like quite
11:30where they were to start the year, but 23 17 and 20% over the last three weeks is solid. And now we'd expect maybe that
11:37to even increase. Um his rout participation's been good all year. Uh, the yards per hour runs never been great, but it's not bad. It's one It's
11:46not terrible. I guess it's kind of bad.
11:471.37, but the 19% target share, 19 run.
11:52>> Yeah, he's running ton of routes. Uh, 82% route participation. So, I think he's he's at least mildly interesting here.
12:00>> Yeah. I mean, he's running over 30 routes per game at the tight end position and he's getting targets, right? Like those like that combination
12:05usually at least at that position gives you something to work with. And then, you know, if you have any type of upside
12:12or run hot, then it turns into something exciting, which hasn't been often, but he's in a good spot where they're probably gonna have to throw a lot
12:19again. Uh, Carolina's been pretty weak against tight ends overall. They play that, you know, they sit in like that base cover three all the time. So, like,
12:27uh, tight ends tend to get a lot of a lot of looks against them anyways, but they also are allowing chunk plays to to
12:32tight ends. You know, 30th in yards per target. They're right around middle pack and touchdown rate. But uh this is his
12:38old the old shower native narrative is back in play though. You know Tyler Shuck is a for former college roommate, you know, back in 2019.
12:45>> So we we is is it roommate or or teammate? Because I think there was the debate on this on the um on the DFS show
12:52that I that I just did this morning where uh Neil Orfield had said they were college roommates and then Davis fact
12:58checked that they were just teammates.
13:01>> I I don't know. I thought it I I thought they were roommates at one point, but that's just I never have like dug in to
13:062019 or Oregon like board and rooming to like see like [laughter] like how like I I just remember the story when he got
13:14drafted. There's like a story like Dwan like reached out to him and like so like it was like yo like so maybe I don't
13:21know >> it it means two different things. If they're teammates it just means Shuck's really old. If they're broommates, it could be good for, you know, them to
13:29have >> the Earl Bennett, the Earl Bennett.
13:32Yeah. [snorts] >> Yeah. Which we're seeing with Bo Nixon, Troy Franklin kind, but [laughter] >> we are um all right. And not too much. I
13:42mean, even if McMillan's out, I don't really have much interest in the the Panthers passing game. Would would you agree?
13:48>> No, because of the volume stuff. You a little maybe a slight bump for like Coker and Legette, but I mean, the
13:54matchup is fine if you want to chase. I just don't think there's going to be a lot of pass volume. Uh in wake of the
13:59Shahed trade, if you're in like 14 team leagues or something deeper, they've talked that Vle is going to get the the
14:06the >> role some too.
14:08>> Yeah. Well, Cooks has already been like playing as the wide receiver three, but the coaching staff like deliberately talked about Vele this week. I mean,
14:14you're not going to like play him in DFS or anything, but like if you're in like those deeper PPR leagues that it's like
14:20a spec ad just because like they're throwing so many passes, like you might have a guy getting, you know, 25 30
14:26routes and maybe that turns into something for you, but it's just a spec ad at this point.
14:30>> I agree. Yeah, there's always these guys who are like Brandon Cooks has been like at 65% plus repetitive as high as 97%
14:37this year. Like what?
14:39>> Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty crazy.
14:41Some people probably don't even know he's on the Saints like [laughter] >> Yeah.
14:45Yeah, >> it's like still out there running around.
14:49>> We'll get to one of these these surprising rap participation uh stats later as well. Let's talk Pat's Bucks.
14:55This is this is like, you know, the game. This is an interesting one.
14:59>> The 1 PM slate, you know, I think Romo's doing this one. Um >> and I I think this game's really fun.
15:05What What jumps out to you about this one? Yeah, I think it it's volatile but has potential to be fun because, you
15:12know, you kind of have the two mere passfunnel defenses. Like, this is a game that could absolutely feature, you know, 80 plus combined passes and a
15:18range of outcomes.
15:20>> Uh, a little I'm definitely way more concerned about the Bucks side than the Pats side, though, for sure. The volatility here. But if we do get it, I
15:27mean, the Bucks have played three home games. They've all gone over. They've all been over like 50 total points.
15:31There's reasons to be like optimistic.
15:33I'm a little scared because like the way the Bucks went into the buy and then Baker Mayfield as a whole this season
15:40like he's kind of gotten by like with some late game stuff and got him in the MVP talk like his overall metrics have
15:46been kind of weak all year and especially against man coverage. He's only completed 43% of his passes against man coverage. Only Cam Ward is worse and
15:55only Carson Wentz has a lower yards per pass against man coverage. Obviously the Patriots play a lot of man coverage. I
16:00think they're going to do that here too because I don't think they're scared about the Bucks.
16:04>> And Gonzalez is healthy. He was checked for a concussion last week, but >> yeah. And so like and you you would
16:09expect that too because of the state the wide receivers have been in all year, right? Like so like it all kind of
16:14tracks why it adds up. It might not even be a full like Baker struggling versus man coverage thing. It could be the
16:18receivers. It's like a combination of things, but they're going to see a lot of that here as well. It also could
16:23might maybe not matter. One thing I always do try to preach too whenever we're talking about coverage stuff or the stuff gets thrown around is like
16:30take in context like who these teams have played and the team they're facing against. Like even though the Patriots are a base man coverage team, like they
16:38don't really play a lot of good pass defense either. Uh so like you know they're 24th in yards for passing allowed. They're 20th in passing uh
16:45points allowed per pass attempt. So it's like it might not mean anything here either too. It could be kind of noisy.
16:50So definitely >> I think they're better than the seasonl long numbers though cuz they they didn't have Gonzalez for a while and they were
16:55like like people were really picking on them and now I think they're pretty solid in the secondary. They're not great in the secondary
17:01>> but their schedule's been so easy too.
17:02It's hard to like but they have like the game against Josh Allen on their resume.
17:06>> Uh so there's like a lot of stuff just going on at the Patriots in general. I do know their run defense is real and I
17:11know Rashad White is not running on them. They're the first team since 1950 to not allow a player to rush over 50
17:18yards against them to this point of an NFL season.
17:21>> Bjan Robinson had 46 yards on 12 carries with minus 20 rush yards over expected, a 25% success rate. They stacked the box
17:28against him zero times.
17:31>> Yeah, it's and like Rashad White has been pretty cheeks since he's taken over for Bucky. Like to be fair, this is like
17:38what Rashad White's been over his career. before the buy he was like banged up and we saw more Shawn Tucker but they're just not gonna be able to
17:44run here. So it's gonna be a high Baker drop back game regardless. This could be a sneaky spot too where like Pat's D is
17:50in play like you know for season long stuff just because you're gonna get so many drop backs butaker Baker hasn't really been turning the ball over though
17:57but uh they might get Luke God back but that's the volatile side. I'll let you talk.
18:02>> That would be nice.
18:04>> Yeah, I'll let you talk into some more stuff. There's a lot I think to cover in this game. So that Luke got their their
18:10right tackle and and Charlie Hec's been filling in and he he kind of stinks. So that would be and the rest of their line
18:16is now healthy. Um which you know it's not been healthy. I think like one of their intended starters got her right at
18:24the beginning of the year. So that's maybe they're not that's not fully true, but they're basically um they're basically good if they get got to keep
18:30back. So that would be nice to see. Um, and yeah, I think from the Patriots side, basically my view of this game is
18:38similar to yours where it's like it's not like super high confidence because you have um the Bucks have been struggling recently with Baker Mayfield,
18:48you know, not playing well against the Lions and then not playing well against the Saints, which was definitely pretty concerning. 31 uh 31st percentile EPA
18:58per play in that game after being awesome for a few weeks. 98th percentile against the Seahawks, 94th percentile against the 49ers. So, he drops off, but
19:06they have the buy. Um, you're hoping that he, you know, kind of gets it together. And then on the the Patriots
19:11side with May, it's not super high confidence either because this Bucks defense is is pretty good. Blitzes a lot. He just faced a blitzing defense in
19:21the Falcons and turned in his uh his worst EPA per play of the year. It was still like not that bad cuz he's playing
19:29awesome. 42nd percentile. It's not like he cratered, but it was kind of diminished the uh the excitement in the Patriots offense a bit. And I think we
19:38could see that happen again. The the silver lining or the kind of the reasons to for you know to stay kind of
19:45optimistic here is that he was aggressive against the Blitz last week with a a 12.3 A DOT. Uh he wasn't able
19:53to to connect much downfield, but he was trying and he was solid against the Blitz. He had positive EPA. He had a 44%
20:00success rate, which isn't it's not it's not like bad like kind of that's like kind of where Mayfield is this year
20:06roughly. So he was like limited by the blitz but he was trying to do cool stuff by attacking downfield. And you know, in
20:16a in another kind of blitz heavy matchup, you could see him kind of go off, especially on volume, right? Where you look at the Bucks run defense, it's
20:26also really good. Fifth in rushing DVOA, third in EPA, third in success rate. So, you got kind of these brick wall rush
20:32defenses on both sides. You have a pretty high point total. You have offenses that can push each other. So, it's just like you're just betting on a
20:40bunch of dropback volume. efficiency is maybe down, you know, like like 65th percentile EPA play for May, I'd be like, I'm listening. I'm listening. How
20:48much volume did I get? You know, I don't need him to be literally 100th percentile like he was against the Panthers or, you know, just just
20:55absolutely crushing like we've seen him do numerous times. But I like that he has that on his resume. It's just that I
21:00don't think you necessarily need him to be at his very most efficient. Buckside is similar where we can get by on volume
21:06a little bit and then the volume should be really condensed to a Mecha Ibuka.
21:10the the Patriot side part that's frustrating is I don't think the volume's that condensed. Stefon Diggs probably gets a little more bit more
21:17with booty out, but they play different roles in the offense. Um yeah, Kyle Williams has taken over that booty role it looks like a little bit, but it'll be
21:24split. He probably is like 60s something percent route participation and can't seem to draw targets. So >> I don't think he's in very interesting.
21:32Maybe he helps funnel targets to the guys we care about. Um >> he might be interesting.
21:36>> Okay, tell me about that. Well, uh, so like last week you talked about the May stuff which, uh, and you know, he wasn't
21:42connecting, but like that's Falcons design, right? Like the the Falcons blitz a lot slot, but they play like a ton of zone coverage behind it. Like
21:48they're predicated on not giving up splash plays. So, I think Booty probably even probably would had the same results if he played, you know, granted he might
21:55not have because that's, you know, he had been pulling stuff out of his hat for a while, but >> and it's like one one like just amazing
22:00throw where it's like here's the ball, you know, >> but I don't think it's shocking that like Kyle Williams came in and didn't
22:05really do much in that role because I don't think that role was going to be set up for success in that matchup.
22:10Vrabel talked about him during the week too and and talked about like how excited he was for him to have this
22:15opportunity because he said that he was a guy that they threw a lot at uh to this point of the season and that now
22:22he's comfortable and they're ready to see what he's got. I think now with uh facing a more aggressive team that you
22:27know plays a little bit more man and single high stuff like we might be able to see some of those shot plays and then
22:31also in his profile coming out of college like he was second in this draft class in yards per run against man
22:37coverage and like granted this dude could be a complete zero. I'm definitely not saying that's like he could be a stone cold nothing and have four targets
22:45in this game. But I mean I think he does offer a little bit more intrigue than based on just saying like well he came
22:49in didn't get any targets last week. I think he was in a spot where that was probably more defensive design too that
22:55like he was kind of that role in the offense was kind of shut out.
22:58>> So maybe I mean he's mpriced. He you you maybe need a dude because there's that the teams on by this week are uh Cowboys
23:07uh Chiefs and Bengals and just a ton of pass catchers like we're you got to reach in the bag somewhere. You do. Uh
23:12so like you know maybe he's a guy like you just take a flyer on.
23:16>> Not a ton of salary uh saving guys either. Not like punt running backs and stuff. So, if you are stacking this
23:22game, um, and you want to go mid price, Kyle Williams, I I don't hate it. I mean, just so you know, for for the
23:28listeners here, uh, yards per out run, he had 2.40 and 9% route participation
23:34in week one. Since then, 0 1 0 0 0.
23:40So, uh, not many flashes here, but, um, >> the role, you know, is important. He has probably taken over that deep threat
23:49role. M. Holland stayed in his regular old dirty work role. He had a 50% routicipation against the Falcons, which is kind of where he
23:58normally is.
23:59>> This guy's going to play forever.
24:00>> Well, he's he's going to convert to tight end. He's he's on the Mercedes Lewis >> uh timeline. We're going to Yeah, we're
24:06going to be talking about this guy in 2035. Um >> Deario Douglas had 33% round participation last week, so he didn't
24:14see an uptick with Booty out. Uh, and by the way, Booty was limited to 30% round participations and and he was at 88% the
24:22week before, 75 74. So, he's he's like a full-time player roughly. Um, and that opportunity was really gobbled up by Kyle Williams, at least from routes
24:33perspective. So, very, very speculative.
24:35Um, and >> I wouldn't expect targets. I definitely wouldn't expect like eight targets or anything. It was just kind of like
24:41Booty. you're like hoping he cashes in on an opportunity at like min price or you because you just took a waiver flyer
24:47because there was nothing for you to pick up. Uh because he's a guy that probably is on your waivers if you are
24:52just like man I don't know who I'm playing for T. Higgins this week or CD Lamb or Jamar Chase or you had T
24:58McMillan and you were counting maybe you scrambling right? Um we're all in those spots.
25:03>> I think this is like a spot where you could like you get 12 >> drop back >> 12 points from a 3K receiver. You're
25:10kind of doing cartwheels on the slate, right? So, >> well, if you score a touchdown, you would Oh my god.
25:14>> Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
25:17>> But, uh, I do think the other guys are are It could get more not at least the targets concentrated like Diggs is like
25:24this is a perfect matchup if they did want to like extend his role even a little bit. Totally. It would be
25:29significant because >> he's been targeted on 28% of his routes against the Blitz. Uh, 2.6. Well, first of all, he's just been good anyways.
25:37Like the only thing that's roadblocking him is that he's been hanging around like that >> like 68 to 72 like route participation
25:45stuff like just not you know if if they just want to give him one game where a lot of dropbacks and he's like he could
25:51even be around 75% this week with the amount of dropbacks we're expecting and like the matchup's good enough for where he's winning in man coverage and against
25:58the blitz like that's at his price because you've talked about it too like not only do we have night pump plays
26:04like this might be a week too like we just have to take on more and mid-rangy wide receivers and like I'm like well
26:10diggs kind of like has some stuff that looks optically like pretty positive like you know if we could do that >> and the blitz tends to like it's not
26:18always the case but it tends to concentrate targets so like you know like who's getting targets and is good and you know can get open it's like
26:26>> who do you trust? Yeah. Like who it's also like first read stuff like >> first read stuff. Yeah. Get the ball
26:32out. Yeah. And it's like they they got some stuff designed where it's like, you know, we're going to make sure that
26:36you're getting open quickly so that you know we're not going to have as much time to throw. Who's you got hot read
26:42stuff? That's normally someone you trust. So, um, yeah, Diggs has been >> good against the Blitz, good against man. So, I like
26:49>> Henry also has a pretty positive signal against the Blitz. And when Booty left last week, he was clearly second on team
26:56and targets. He's the one guy too you can confidently count on like his like participation being static. Like it doesn't always lead to targets. Like
27:05he's just been Hunter Henry. Like Hunter Henry has been his whole career. Like you know you basically ask yourself, did Hunter Henry score a touchdown this
27:11week?
27:12>> No. All right. Well, he probably was pretty pretty lame. And then did he score a touch this week? Well, he was
27:16pretty usable. But this might be a week where he has like a little bit of an impact where the again the participation
27:23stuff isn't necessarily limiting because we're getting more passing volume um overall because of the game environment and potentially the defense. So it could
27:30help him out too. So, >> and this is one of those things where people criticize the Patriots for I mean rightfully they have had a very easy
27:38schedule and you know it it's not it's easier to put up points and be efficient when you're going against the Saints and
27:45the Titans and the Panthers and the Dolphins, but these teams aren't really pushing back. And this is a game where I
27:53think again there's not a ton of high confidence game environments, but there's definitely potential for the Bucks to push back in a big way here and
28:01to do it through the passing game. So the clock is stopping. You know, we're getting a ton of plays in this game from
28:08both sides. And the Patriots are like having to kind of really put their f their their foot on the pedal, pedal to
28:16the floor. and you know, we get passing volume from them in a way that they like they kind of don't have to do a lot of
28:22the times when when they're when they're playing really efficiently. So, that's that's just a fun element of this game.
28:29>> On the Bucks side, uh we talked about White. I I agree. I mean, I think White's White to me, it's more of a
28:34seasonlong thing of like, >> well, there's some dudes on by and he's going to catch passes, so I'll throw them out there. But but Tucker was
28:42siphoning off carries last week and this is a really tough rushing matchup. So I I think he's a very uninspiring play at
28:51running back.
28:53>> But you do have Ibuka, you've got Kate Atten, um I think is probably playable.
28:59>> Uh Tez Johnson kind of jumps out is is potentially interesting. He was at 96% route participation with Shepard at 67%
29:06against the Saints.
29:08>> Johnson's been kind of decent. You know what I compared them to uh in the walkthrough? I I compared them to Troy
29:14Franklin.
29:16>> Uh >> yeah, I see that.
29:17>> They're both running out of the slot about half of their snaps. They're both incredibly skinny. Like guys, you play football for a living. Like maybe eat.
29:27>> That's how they're so fast.
29:28>> Well, actually TZ Johnson wasn't even fast measury, but he was fast on the It's funny. Well, he ran a slow 40, but
29:34remember he was the he ran the fastest time in the uh other >> the No, the you know how they do the the
29:40MPH like tracking on when the receivers running with the quarterbacks.
29:44>> He was the I didn't know this.
29:45>> Yeah, he was the fastest dude when they ran the go routes for the quarterbacks.
29:48He had the fastest miles per hour of the receivers.
29:51>> Interesting.
29:51>> So, it was like a big It was a big thing like what should we care about? It was like a thing like
29:55>> did he not train for the 40? Like >> cuz his 40 time was [ __ ] Like it was terrible especially for a dude of his
30:00weight. Like it was ter like like deplorable. claims he weighs 142 pounds.
30:04>> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah.
30:07>> Yeah. Uh when I had his his prospect thing, his profile like when I went back to Yeah. I forgot like he he ran the
30:13fastest time of the receivers in the go route drill. So it's just like what are we do?
30:17>> Yeah.
30:18>> But he's um he's kind of like he's a deep threat slot. 12.6 ADA. Franklin's 13.3. Um they're both drawing targets
30:26more than you'd think based on their first three targets, which aren't great, but aren't terrible. Um, they both get used in the screen game and Tez
30:35actually, this is before last night, uh, but he's at 1.59 yards per hour run, which was higher than than Franklin um,
30:42before Thursday Night Football. So, I don't know. I mean, like I kind of talked myself into him this way. I was
30:48like, hey, if I have, you know, uh, Bucks Troy Franklin in this matchup, that could be pretty fun. Um, so I think I might play some TZ. Yeah, I
30:58think he's I'm more interested in him at his price point from a DFS perspective than I am Egookas, even though I bua
31:05gonna be really popular. Uh just because he's more expensive. And then I I worry about some of the split stuff with him.
31:12Uh because he's not Drake London, you know, getting open. He's he's been so bad against man coverage this year compared to zone. And it's like do the
31:23like do the Patriots use Gonzalez on him a little more because he doesn't move around as much as uh like a Drake London
31:29does to get away. I mean Drake London all of his touchdowns came away from Gonzalez last week. He ran 16 >> and were incredible place.
31:36>> Like dude like I I wrote it up. I was like this is I even put the clips I very rarely ever put like uh like clips in my
31:43stuff but I was like this is the best catalog of catches a receiver has had in a game this season like easily. Uh, but
31:49he ran 16 routes against Gonzalez and only caught two passes. The the one big one where he let him know and got the
31:54penalty, the taunting penalty, but the rest of was on everyone else. The Bucks don't really have like other guys I think that the Patriots are going to be
32:02like that concerned about. Um, so I do I do have like a little bit of plus. Now, Ibuka is going to get 27% of the targets
32:10plus. So like you're not scared like from a floor perspective, he's going to draw targets. I wouldn't run away from him in any seasonl long leagues. I'm
32:17just thinking about like how the field's playing from a DFS perspective and I'm like is this a guy I want to be lighter
32:21on? That's that's it. Like I'm gonna definitely have stacks this game as well because the only way this game I think
32:26pops also for DFS is if the Bucks drive it.
32:31>> The Bucks need to do something. Yeah.
32:32>> Yes. The Bucks have to drive it. So like and if you're like Rashad White and the running backs are going to do it, it has
32:37to be a Bua.
32:39>> I don't know if the Bucks have to drive it. Like the Patriots The Patriots will attack through the air for it to pop.
32:44Yeah.
32:44>> Yeah. for it to like for it to like be like Yeah. for it's like this is a single entry onslaught type thing.
32:50>> Yeah.
32:50>> The Bucks are going to be the ones getting it to that like crazy game state.
32:54>> Uh because the Patriots if they're just playing with the lead like they'll be fine. Like they'll still throw more. Um
33:00but like Right. Right.
33:01>> You know, we need them to push it. So, and we didn't even talk about, you know, Henderson at all.
33:07>> Well, why is that, Rich?
33:09>> Yeah. [laughter] Well, >> I think you got to be a little It was funny because both sides kind of won
33:14last week, right, with the Henderson Warriors.
33:16>> Both sides won. I had him in lineups.
33:18You know, he was fine. Roma Dunce, I wish you uh literally did anything to do something. Listen, I had him I had a
33:25Manung guy. We talked a lot of [ __ ] on guy, >> but I I had him in a Caleb Williams
33:29lineup. Um and uh it was Rome. It was Rome that killed me.
33:34>> Yeah, man. Guy just like say we It's Bengals, you know. They're not on a slate this week either. Bengals and
33:39Cowboys being off the slate and period is is you know we're like there's no upside [laughter] >> can't just play dudes against the the
33:48the Bengals and Cowboys. But I do think that and I don't know like what Gretch wrote this up as uh like the signal
33:54versus but like the Terrell Jennings goal line touch was pretty noisy in itself. It wasn't like Henderson got pulled at the goal line for Jennings. He
34:01was in on the drive had a play got him across the 50. Jennings came in had like a 18 yard run ran him down there and
34:07just stayed in the game for that possession but still 75% snaps for Henderson and he ran 28 targets to four for Jennings and that's
34:18what we care about in this matchup because we don't expect the Patriots to line up a run the football on the Bucks
34:23but the Patriots faced the Browns two weeks ago and they did have some nice outside runs with Henderson. So maybe we
34:30get a little bit of that and him involved in the pass catching game. The Bucks are 30th in receiving points allowed to running backs. Uh so again,
34:38like there's not a lot of mid-rangy guys this week to kind of be excited about.
34:42And I don't know necessarily I would even use excitement about him. It's just like, well, he's going to get some catches and some volume.
34:49>> Yeah. 75% of the snaps last week, 70% round participation, 19% target share for Tvon Henderson. Um but he only had
34:5642% of the carries. So it wasn't just the touchdown. Jennings was siphoning off meaningful work. And I think that would definitely be pretty concerning
35:04es, you know, if we thought that the path here was them running the ball.
35:09It's more like a PPR play.
35:11>> Yeah.
35:11>> And so I do like Henderson in season long, you know, more than like a Rashad White where it's kind of the same exact
35:20type of play. You're just like betting on the PPR. But I think Henderson is is more interesting. Um, actually I'm like, do I do I have I'm
35:30like literally going to lower Rashad White to make sure I now have Henderson ahead. [laughter] Um, but yeah, I mean, I think yeah,
35:39think it through it more. I definitely I definitely prefer Henderson to White.
35:42Um, but I don't love Henderson and DFS.
35:45We'll talk about ETN later, but like he's another guy in a similar price range. And when I think through like the
35:50the profiles, I I think I prefer ETN.
35:53Um, but yeah, we'll we'll discuss that soon. Um, >> yeah, that's that's pretty much it, though. Could I mean, like I said, this
35:59game is going to this game's going to I think just be kind of pretty clear like what we're going to get pretty early on.
36:06>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, well, I I could see this being like, you know, because that Bill started really boring.
36:15>> Um, I I was watching that game in like the bar up the street and we were just like, this game sucks and then came home
36:21and then the game got good. So, I I think this could be >> You never know sometimes when these teams like it's like they're they're
36:28kind of not really they're just kind of doing a little and then they just start whailing, you know?
36:34>> Yeah. And the Bucks have had a lot of games where it takes them a while to >> Yeah, I could see some fourth quarter
36:39fireworks in this one for sure. Um all right, let's go to the next game. Uh I had in the walkthrough here was Giants
36:47at Bears. Uh the Bears, man, they they want to run the ball and this is the spot to run the ball.
36:58>> Dead last in DVOA, the Giants. Dead last in EPA, dead last in success rate. This is the worst run defense in the league.
37:04I'm not sure it's close. Uh they actually have a good pass rush as well.
37:09So like there's there's incentive to run the ball and um you know to avoid the pass rush and then it's also like a
37:15rushing matchup you really really want to attack. The 49ers had a 44% success rate or sorry, not success rate, pass rate. Uh, they were much more
37:23successful. 44% success, what's wrong with my brain? 44% pass rate. Uh, and a minus 9% proe last week by the 49ers
37:33against this Giants defense. We predicted they were going to pound the rock. They pounded the rock. You know, this is like this is this is the beauty
37:40of a runfunnel. It's like we we can we can predict a game plan, then we see it happen. And I think we're going to see a
37:47pass rate kind of in this range for for the I mean we saw 43% against the Saints from the Bears. Uh they've you know they
37:56they've been committed to the run here and now they found a guy and Kyle Manungai that can be their downhill runner. I think Swift who will be back
38:04this week >> will have you know a solid role but it was kind of split up before Swift >> 48% of carries against the Saints and
38:12then 48% of carries against the Ravens.
38:14So, you know, is Manungai will have work here. Uh, I think it'll probably feel a little bit like um Hubard and Dowel
38:24after Dao blew up and we went back to the Hubard experience where you're like, "What? What if you just played the guy
38:29who broke out?" Um, >> well, the the difference is Swift's been really good.
38:34>> Swift has been good. He's he's got a 43% success rate, which is like weirdly good for him. He's not been amazing. He's
38:39he's been better than Hubard by a lot.
38:41Um, but >> he leads the but he's also facing the he leads all running backs and rate of runs for 10 or more yards and he's facing the
38:48defense that allows the most to run. So even if we do have like a a 6040 split or even if it's closer to 50/50, there's
38:55a chance for the way he's produced on runs like he could still be good and he's probably going to have all the the
39:00more of the receiving stuff back too. Uh but it's going to be both >> two yards per run for him. He's been
39:05good in the receiving game.
39:06>> Yeah. I mean, that's the difference between like I wrote it up too like don't I don't think this is a Hubard
39:10situation because Swift's actually been good uh whereas like Hubard was like pretty bad uh and then was bad coming back. But then this match up just lines
39:20up. I will say going forward after this though, like if you have Manangi and you're excited, >> you should start to be real worried
39:25after this.
39:27>> Like it gets well because >> the schedule >> it gets but maybe not so much the Vikings next week, but they're like up
39:33and down when we get to them. Then they go Steelers, Eagles, Packers, Browns, Packers. Like it's and like because this is a team like the way the Bears want to
39:41operate coming out of the buy, uh their signal has been shown. But like if they're not able to play that way, that
39:47he's obviously the most fragile piece like of that like that role if he's like David Montgomery adjacent or something like that. Like if they're not able to
39:55play the style of football they want to.
39:57>> I comp them in the walkthrough to um to Kenneth Walker and Zack Charbanet.
40:02>> Yeah, cases. prefer the Bears guys where you're getting like we actually saw some rushing pop from uh from a nung guy last
40:09week and and Swift's been like a legit good receiver and actually has a good success rate but you get that burst that
40:15that Walker has. So it's kind of like the the good version of the Seahawks backfield basically in a great rushing matchup.
40:22>> And this week you're not worried about it because they're going to be able to run the football and the weather is
40:25supposed to be crappy so like it's just going to be all right. Like they're just going to line up and run the football a
40:30lot this game. Um, so it's gonna be a lot of this backfield. I think there's enough for both guys to be good. I do
40:37think there's probably a little more still upside here for Swift because of the receiving and the explosive runs, but it might not even matter in this
40:43matchup. It could still be a spot where the matchup just carries everybody.
40:48Yeah, I think from a DFS perspective it's tough because Swift is 6100 and Manungai who was, you know, very popular
40:57and did well um is now I think he's 56.
41:02So yeah, he's 56. So he's it's the pricing kind of keeps you off. I mean obviously if if Swift was out and
41:07Manungai was 56, we'd be >> Oh dude, it'd be amazing.
41:11>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If Manunga was out, we would jam Swift for sure, too. uh that this is yeah, I mean it's it's a matchup
41:18where the passing game um for the Bears isn't super interesting because it's just so clear. It's I mean this is like
41:26Panthers level to me, you know?
41:28>> Yeah. Look at the look at Caleb's like completions and wins.
41:33>> Like he's got 20, 19, 15, 17, and 22 completions in their wins.
41:40>> [clears throat] >> The other thing is that like his deal is that he's he runs around, he takes forever to throw and then, you know, he
41:47he generates some big plays, >> but the Giants pass rush is kind of the best thing they got going on defense. I
41:54don't think this doesn't set up to me as like an ideal Caleb spot. Um >> and his his big spikes have been very
42:02predictable is it's the Cowboys and the Bengals. [laughter] >> That's actually hilarious.
42:08>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, we talked about it last week.
42:11>> Cowboys and Bengals.
42:12>> We talked about it last week. When we talked about him, I was like, "This is the most Cowboys adjacent game he's had
42:16like matchup wise." Uh, just it's like literally the same thing. But, >> but he didn't do it against the Raiders, right? He didn't do it. Like, nope.
42:24>> He's not against the Commanders. A pretty vulnerable defense. like he hasn't >> a good matchup isn't at least so far
42:32hasn't he needs a great match up to >> and to be fair maybe Dark can push them if the weather's not a thing like cuz
42:37he's they there's been a couple spots where you're like oh the Giants aren't that fun here but then they play in some
42:43>> relative relatively highscoring games like overall it's weird because outside of the the Denver well it's honestly none of them though it was even the
42:51Denver game because it was a late Denver flurry is how the score got there but all the Giants games have high point
42:57totals like last week 58 week before 58 the Eagles week before 65 the week before that 61 but like none of them are
43:04back and forth >> right >> like like just the combined points end up getting there uh either Dart's doing something early or doing something late
43:13we're done you guys >> it's not like it's not like last week though like trading blows >> so I do think Caleb like I opened the
43:22week kind of like bullish on Caleb in this game in general and then as Swift got up and then the weather I like this
43:27is probably a very like clear like Bears just run this ball spot.
43:32>> I do like your call though that dart is kind of the key to this game being more fun. And Dart's been good. It's been
43:38defense is not good. Yeah, >> I'm I'm I'm starting to become a they should keep Dayball guy.
43:45>> Oh, interesting.
43:47>> Like all that matters is that Dart is good and Dart has been good in Dayball's offense, so just keep dayball.
43:56Yeah, I could see it.
43:57>> That's it. That's all my whole argument.
43:59>> And I I like Dart regardless even as uh even if the weather is bad because he's going to run around. Uh the Bears are
44:05also 24th in rushing points allowed per game to uh quarterbacks. Uh you know, Puntley and Jaden Daniels went over 50 yards. Gino Smith had 30 yards against
44:15them. JJ McCarthy had 25 and a touchdown. So Dart's going to run around regardless in this matchup. And if by any means like the weather doesn't
44:24impact any of the passing stuff, it actually is a really good passing match up for him. Arguably his best that he's
44:29had uh to this point of him starting.
44:33>> Yeah. So So they have um Jaylen Johnson and an outside corner and Kyler Gordon Nickel Corner both on IR. Um they've got
44:43uh the reserves there. Nan Wright, Nick Mloud have both been liabilities. They still have their starting uh corner Tyreek Stevenson healthy except he ranks
44:54120th among 122 quarterbacks with 100 plus defensive snaps and yards allowed per coverage snap. The other guys um are 95th and 102nd. So this is like a weak
45:04link system made up of three weak links uh at quarterback. So it's a pretty like the Bears uh 27th in passing DVOA, 22nd
45:13in EPA, 29th in success rate. So, this is a pretty bad pass defense to begin with, but the numbers probably overstate
45:19their strength. One minor concern, uh, center John Michael Smith hasn't practiced this week on uh, and the Giants could be out for this game. So, I
45:29I would keep an eye on that. Uh, the Bears pass rush is like not great, but um, obviously losing your starting
45:36center isn't ideal for for betting on the quarterback. So, but yeah, I think it's a pretty good matchup for Dart. I
45:43I'm a little bit interested in Wandell Robinson here.
45:45>> I I think there's a bullc case to make for both receivers. It's just, you know, said >> I it's an equal opportunity defense.
45:54>> The guy um >> and they've been pretty good against the run since the buy the Bears like it's so like I I mean you they you would think
46:01they would drive the Giants to push the pass if the weather's not involved >> and the Giants run game not the same
46:08without Scataboo. So they >> no, >> you know, and and we saw Wandell back in kind of the short AOT stuff. So they may
46:15be kind of pivoting him.
46:16>> Yeah, they were playing Ray Ray Mloud at outside receiver.
46:20>> This is the one I teased. 92% route participation for Ray Ray Ray Mloud.
46:25Squirrel Patrol mentioned him as a as a possible DFS player.
46:28>> Yeah, so did Hy low and I said I'm not doing it. [laughter] >> But fair but fair enough. Like someone
46:33you're that's why I said it's an uncomfortable slate. You definitely have to play if you want to like be team jamming him in this week. You got to
46:40play a shitty dude.
46:42>> I think he's on if you're making a list of shitty dudes that you can actually play. He has to be on that list.
46:48>> He ran all the routes and it's a pretty it's a it's a really good matchup.
46:51>> Yep.
46:51>> And and we just talked the corner the nickel corner is one of the guys who's out. Although all three corners stink,
46:56so it doesn't really matter. But I guess you and >> but still Yeah. He Oh yeah. Wow. Yeah.
47:02Well still did it like Wando didn't move. It was just they cuz you know Ray Mloud like historically has been like
47:07the guy you want to move into the slot but they didn't like he basically just was little Jordan Humphrey.
47:12>> They're kind of doing the Bucks thing when they had uh I bua well Taz and Shepard. It's like all slot
47:19>> and then uh yeah the Giants are going to take that. They need to replace Sllayton with um I don't know who who would be
47:25good. Greg Dorch. Trade Slayton for Greg Dor.
47:28>> Get all the dudes. [laughter] Um, yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, I kind of like the Giants. I It's not like
47:37an absolute smash spot because of the game environment, but sometimes we see this pan out, okay, where one team's like efficiently scoring on the ground
47:46and then the other team has to pass a bunch. Do you have any interest in Theo Johnson here?
47:51>> Not like a ton. I I think it's positive.
47:53It's just that Theo Johnson's just such a guy that's dependent on like that red zone role, and he does have it to be
47:58fair. It's just he does nothing but score outside of scoring touchdowns and like to me like that type of player is
48:04always just so hard to chase in football. Like I mean he is 34 receiving yards or fewer in every game but one
48:11this season >> but you know when he gets when dark in the Giants get the red zone like he's involved. Uh uh only Dallas Guyard has
48:18scored more fantasy points off touchdowns than Theo Johnson. Uh 38% of his points but he has a 32% red zone target share from Dart. Um, so it it's
48:28real. It's just touchdown or nothing. I I'm definitely more interested in the two wide receivers. Um, obviously I don't have any push back of like you're
48:35streaming Theo or you're playing him or or you just don't care if he doesn't score all you care about him scoring
48:40that touchdown.
48:41>> But >> Right. Right. Right.
48:43>> I mean, he's very stackable with Dart because you're >> Yeah. You know, >> I mean, so are the receivers. They're
48:47both affordable. There's, like I said, bull case to make for both guys. I mean, the Bears are uh 30th in points allowed
48:54to slot receivers. They're also allowing the league's highest catch rate to wide receivers on throws 10 and 20 yards downfield. You just need Sllayton to
49:02like not want to leave one of these plays on the field. It's every week with this dude. He leaves a huge play on the
49:06field. Now, one was taken from him on the OPI that was like a phantom OPI, but uh you know, he had the two plays
49:12against the Saints that would have pushed him into a ceiling week. And then last week he has a 34 yard touchdown in
49:17his hands and for some reason sticks his own arm out to not protect the ball and it causes the ball to come out because
49:22he braces himself. He takes a you know takes his hand off the ball to brace himself like just fall down dude. Like
49:28you're paid millions of dollars like like but you know and he doesn't and he doesn't he doesn't hold on to the ball
49:35because of that. But he's over 20% target share three games in a row.
49:39>> I think both guys are interesting to to play with him. I'm waiting to see kind of how things shake up. I think if the
49:45weather is bad, I'm more drawn to Wandell, like the shorter target stuff.
49:49>> Yeah.
49:49>> And then and then if it's like fine, I might chase the ceiling stuff. But both guys are priced in an area where there's
49:55a lot of guys like that are getting popped in Sims early where I'm like that dude's not as good as Darius Sllayton
50:00like or like it has a role like Darius Slayton. So like I would be go back to him again if like the weather's fine and
50:06like he's not really tracking for any ownership.
50:10Right now, Kevin Roth has um a bit of rain. Snow mix is possible.
50:14>> Currently taking more snow than rain pregame.
50:17>> Uh 15 to 20 mph winds >> with gusts up to 30.
50:21>> He had this one as like an orange one early, but this >> got yellow orange now.
50:26>> This stuff always changer, but the wind, precipitation, and cold is not ideal.
50:31>> Yeah.
50:32>> So, it seems okay.
50:33>> Yeah. And it could be nothing by the time we get there.
50:36>> Yeah. Worth keeping an eye on for sure.
50:38Um, anything on the Bears passing game?
50:44>> No, just because of the like I think there's signal for Rome if you want to do the FL. Uh, you know, just the week
50:49prior to this he had 10 targets. I don't think we need to panic. Uh, the matchup for the man cover stuff. You know,
50:54you've probably heard people cite it again. I just don't think there's going to be a lot of target distribution in this game. I'm fine. I'm gonna probably
51:01mix Rome in uh into some stuff, but like he's the only one. Like I'm not gonna chase Lovelin here because I don't think
51:09there's going to just be enough completions to go around. Uh Giants also been kind of sneaky good against tight ends too. And Lovelin two weeks ago when
51:17he had the run out with KT out like wasn't very good either. So and that was in a game like they were trailing. So I
51:25think it's just Rome or nothing for me here.
51:28>> Yeah, I feel similarly. I mean you also have Luther Burton coming back. Um, and you know, I would love if that meant we
51:36could play Luther Burden. It does not.
51:38Uh, but Burton has been like getting meaningful work. Like he he had 39% route participation against the Commanders in week six, then 33%. He had
51:4831% targets per route run in that a game against the Commanders, 22% against the Saints, he was at 20% uh against the
51:54Ravens, although only played 12% cuz he had a concussion. But he's stealing like meaningful targets. Like these are not targets you want to be giving up if if
52:01you've got DJ Moore or Olm Zakias like or even Lovelin like it's just not it's just not a thing you want added to the
52:09offense and I think he'll be back in kind of that normal role. So >> he's Chicago Marvin Mims man.
52:15>> That is what he is. Yeah. Wish it was not what he is but that's what he is.
52:22I'm sad now. You've really bummed me out. But it's a good >> Well, that's what like you can get you can get a splash play like you know he's
52:28a splash play guy. Like if the game environment's hot like you maybe you could run run into something. Um >> Yep.
52:35>> Because he's still like all the like even on a small sample like the it's he's turning in explosives.
52:42>> Yeah. Kind of wish they would play him but uh they won't. [laughter] Well, I said I do expect the Bears to
52:48run the football here effectively and ultimately win this game. And I think that's what drives this game into potentially being kind of more
52:55meandering and lower like passing volume from the Bear side.
52:58>> Um, >> totally, totally.
53:00>> Dart Dart's someone I'm just like not concerned about because like DraftKings refused to change his price. Uh, and I'm like, "All right, well, okay." because
53:07he's been like he's been the QB4 since he took over and like keeps getting priced >> in the mid like fives and it's just like
53:14this dude's cheaper than Jared Goff again. Cool. All right. Like >> yeah.
53:20>> No, that's a good point. Um Bills at Dolphins. Another game where I feel like we're we're dealing with u a runheavy
53:27offense. This one though, obviously you have Josh Allen, so if they even if they run a lot, you could have a really
53:34efficient game from him. And what if they don't? like what if they don't they they could absolutely smash but they are
53:39going to James Cook's been awesome.
53:42>> You can't really even fault them. You know they just they went run heavy against the Chiefs last week but won
53:47right they they have been kind of smashing teams. Um now they did go run heavy against the Patriots and Falcons and lost both games but you know
53:55whatever. They they went into their buy after losing two games by going run heavy and then went super duper runheavy in the next two games and and have
54:04gotten wins. So, the pivot was to pass even less. Uh, and I think in this matchup where Dolphins opponents are averaging just a 56% pass rate, which is
54:14also what the Bills are averaging this year, Dolphins opponents have a minus 4% proe. Uh, this is a team you run on.
54:20This is a big time run funnel. Um, James Cook set up really well here. I actually kind of feel like he's a little
54:27underprojected. I understand why where he's not getting targeted and you have to like >> he's like old school Jonathan Taylor somehow like how did we get here? How
54:35did we get here?
54:36>> Very tailory. And but I I'm willing to bet if if you're telling me I need to bump up a little efficiency. I'm willing
54:42to bump it up here. I think he'll be very efficient. Very very efficient.
54:46>> Yeah, especially the last two weeks running on the Chiefs and and Panthers.
54:49Uh I I'm pretty pretty confident he will as well. The run games also lowkey the Bills we never talk about it. Their
54:55offensive line is awesome. Like we never really even give them like credit.
54:58>> We never really give them that credit.
54:59Yeah.
55:00>> Their offensive line is is has been good for like three years in a row. Like it's been like >> they're number two in run block win
55:06rate.
55:07>> I mean they have Deion Dawkins is awesome. Spencer Brown's awesome. Like we I feel like they it kind of flies
55:12under the radar with the Bills because Josh Allen carries so much cache. Like their line is great.
55:15>> Yeah. They're number one in pass block win rate, number two in run block win rate, fifth in PFF's pass block grades
55:21>> and it's been like years a couple years running they've been like really good.
55:25>> We talked about that. I don't know. I don't know. It's a great point.
55:29>> They're They're great though. Like great offensive line and a run first team. Um yeah, they're going to be fine here. I
55:35will say this, like this game's fun because the Dolphins very rarely ever beat the Bills, but they hang around and and that's we care at least for fantasy
55:45football, we care about that. Josh Allen is 14-2 against the Dolphins. U but uh I think he's one and one and five as a
55:54favorite of more than a touchdown against them. And we saw them at home.
55:56They were 12-point favorites against the Dolphins earlier this year. The Dolphins pushed them. U so and if the Dolphins do hang around, we know why they hung
56:05around. They're two good players on their offense, >> right?
56:08>> So you got Deon Han. Uh and remember the last time these teams played was on a Thursday night. Devin Han had a reduced
56:15workload that week on a short week. Now he's at the inverse. He's coming off of a Thursday game and has the long rest
56:21and Alli Gordon's kind of banged up. So, I think he's gonna have a high workload and then Waddle's been really good since
56:27the Tyreek Kilt like we all thought, right? Like, >> yeah, >> uh the opp because Mike McDaniel is one of the other ones he's coaches like if
56:33he's gonna get the ball to the guys that are the best football players at the given time and right now at the given
56:37time like Jaylen Wadd is clearly one of the best football players on the team since they've lost Tyreek Hill. He's the
56:43wide receiver four in yards per out run.
56:44He's a wide receiver three in air yards.
56:46Uh he's the wide receiver uh five in receiving yards. He's been a top 25 scorer in four of those five games with
56:52two wide receiver one scoring weeks. And oh yeah, the Bills are 31st in points allowed the wide receiver ones. So if
56:59this game is like the Dolphins do push back and we have more evidence of the Dolphins being like a competent offense
57:05this year than a bad one. They do have a few outright duds this year, but if they do push, it's going to be because of
57:10these two guys.
57:13>> Yeah, that you mentioned four or five games has been awesome. That fifth game does make me nervous. That was the
57:19Browns game. 0.56 yards per hour run in that game as Tua just completely melted down. Uh he was zero percentile in EPA
57:29per play in that game. And pressure man, you can't like Tua is he's tricky because 4 point the 2.49 second time to
57:41throw is the fastest in the NFL. Aaron Rogers is in second place at 2.577 seconds. It's a pretty big gap. He's
57:48getting the ball out really really quickly, which you would think would be a good fit for this matchup because um the the Bills do have a pretty decent
57:56pass rush. But the problem that I have is like it's not just that Tua gets the ball out quickly. It's that like he
58:03clearly is super sensitive to pressure and can kind of melt down under pressure. Uh Bills are fourth in quick pressure rate and second in pressure
58:12rate. It's a pretty good pass rush.
58:15They're really bad run defense. I he was Buns the first time they played. I think he had four yards for pass attempt the
58:21first time they played.
58:23>> Yeah. So I'm worried you're not cared about Tua like Yeah. I don't expect Tua to be good.
58:28>> I guess you're worried about the crater.
58:30You're worried about >> I worry about a crater.
58:32>> Tua can Tua can absolutely crater. We we've seen it. It's just like the whole offense is ruined.
58:37>> Um so that's the part that concerns me.
58:39It makes me more nervous about Waddle than Achan because because this run defense does stink and they're down at Oliver now. uh for the rest of the year.
58:48So, you know, and they're already 30th in DVOA, 29th in EPA, and 26th in success rate. Maybe that's overstating how good they are even. And uh
58:57>> and Ali Gordon is banged up. He's expected to play, but Achan's not a guy we were like, "Oh, >> is he not going to get 22 carries?"
59:04Like, yeah, he's not. And that's fine.
59:06That's not what you're betting on. Um so, he'll get enough and he'll also get plenty of reception. So I think Achan's
59:12a really strong play here even with my concern about Tua Wadd I have more as a a wide re like a high-end wide receiver
59:19too. I wanted to be more excited than I am. It's just that >> you know Tua is just th this is this is
59:27a good enough pass rush where it could the bottom could fall out >> and they were on uh the only difference
59:33is they can't play the same way they did against the Chiefs. Man, Matt Naggie, what were you doing last week? Uh just
59:39the you know last week the Bills just wanted to play dime and rush four and rush three like the old like Lou Big Lou
59:45did this to Mahomes a few times but like Matt Naggie and the Chiefs just wanted to throw down field like they wanted to
59:49do nothing short that's the opposite here like >> yeah you know they're going to throw short the whole game pretty [laughter]
59:58exact opposite but >> but yeah yeah that'd be the concern but if if the if it's a push where the Dolphins are pushing though the outcome
60:06is just like you know where it's coming from >> Well, how interested are you in in Allen in the passing game because you kind of
60:13need the Dolphins to push back a bit, I think, given how the Bills have been playing recently.
60:17>> Yeah, I said the first game, too. It was pretty bad and still they still found a way to push because the run game was
60:23good enough and he completed enough passes. Um, so I think that they'll get a little push. I don't expect Josh All
60:29to throw 30 plus passes, but I expect him to be efficient when he throws because everyone's been efficient against the Dolphins all year. They're
60:36bad. They they blitz a ton, but they blitz for no reason because they don't get pressures on blitzes.
60:42>> Yeah, they blitz for no reason. They blitz just for the hell of it. Like, and >> they're 31st in uh EPA on blitz drop
60:47back.
60:48>> Yeah, it's crazy, man. It's absolutely >> blitz at the third highest rate per drop.
60:52>> Yeah, it's it's mindboggling. You don't have Jaylen Phillips anymore. Uh who has traded away like >> he blitz for no reason. It's so
60:58>> Yeah, he blitz for no reason. This is the deal, man. It's like the kid that plays Madden in gage eight, baby. Gage
61:03eight. [laughter] This is what I do.
61:04That's what I do. We're coming. It's like, "All right, man. Like, I've just been marching down the field on you don't care." No, man. [laughter]
61:10>> What we're doing >> what we do.
61:12>> Yeah. I mean, the Lamar the same thing.
61:14Like, that's all those blitzes don't get home. Guys are open. Guys are running into each other. Like, it's >> I expect them to be efficient. It's the
61:21thing with the Bills is you're still not like super excited about like really all the guys.
61:26>> Um, Shakir, you know what you get out of. And then Concaid is probably a little more bullish here to where like
61:32like Achan you don't even care that he's going to be on the field for 55% of the snaps or >> But I do care, man. I really do.
61:41>> He can be so efficient in this matchup.
61:43Well, you do big picture, but I think in this match it might not matter because the Dolphins are allowing the uh 31.2%
61:51of the catches against the Dolphins have been tight ends. Not only that, they're allowing they've allowed the most receptions with 20 more uh yards to
61:58tight ends. And that's exactly what Dalton Concade's doing right now. He's third in the NFL, not tight ends. Like he's behind Jackson Smith and Jigba and
62:07Puk and Aku in yards for route run. Now, some of that's inflated because he's not only running around at running routes.
62:13Yeah, >> he's not running routes, but he averages 9.2 air yards per catch. He's already 15 yards per catch. Like so if you're
62:19looking for a guy that that has to operate with high efficiency, this would be the matchup for him to operate like
62:23on high efficiency like low value.
62:25>> He's tight end one in open score. Um in addition to being tight one in yards per route run obviously and then first read
62:32target rate of 18.
62:33>> He's the only dude that gets big plays in the passing game for them.
62:36>> Yeah. No, he's I I again I I do actually do understand why he's not running more routs because they use Dawson Knox and
62:44Jackson.
62:44>> Well, he's really a wide receiver. He's really wide receiver and and so he's basically just like a big slot that they
62:50rotate and uh >> he's such a dynasty trade too. Like >> oh if you what what could you what could you get? You got you got to be shopping
62:58them.
62:58>> This Well, especially if you're like an FFPC or something where like tight ends are like juicy like or if you're in a
63:03league it's tight end for you because we've I think you've brought this up too. We tal like next year people are
63:08going to be like Dawson Knox be a free agent. People are going to sell us like dude Jackson Hos is just new Dawson
63:12Knox.
63:13>> 100%. 100%. Now, I do think if if Knox left, maybe he'd get up at least like to 60% ra participation, right? 65. 65. I
63:22would be >> I will say this. At least he's doing his role well this year.
63:27>> Yeah. I mean, he's I I'm into Harold Fannon. Isn't this the same profile?
63:32>> It is. Uh well, we know block. Fannon's a good blocker, though.
63:37Like, >> I remember coming out of my college thing. I was like, man, this dude's a way better blocker than anyone gives him
63:43credit for. I know. It's like one of those things where he's not like gonna block Miles Garrett or something, but it's like, guess what? They're never
63:50going to ask him to, so it doesn't matter. Can he block a nickel back?
63:53Yeah, >> he can.
63:54>> Yeah, and that's helpful. [snorts] >> Um, yeah, I like the I like the the Daltton Kaid call. Um, he's been so good. So,
64:06uh, that that's an interesting one.
64:08>> This will be the one. And then the Dolphins did cut uh Tanner Connor today with Julian Hill coming back. So it
64:13looks like it's going to be Doulich like still in this like quasi like whatever we're doing with this. So like >> do you think we're going to get the
64:21Darren Waller ramp up?
64:23>> I don't know just cuz like Da just like takes such a leap of faith to trust himself. But >> did you have you seen if Mike McDaniel
64:33loves his hair? [laughter] >> I love his hair.
64:37I love him say it too. Nathaniel Hackett loved his hair and that's what what drove his uh early >> Yeah. This dude is Ind indigo
64:44Mononttoya. Uh [laughter] you know love this dude.
64:50>> Great locks.
64:52>> He's literal locks. Yeah.
64:54>> Um all right. Ravens at Vikings.
64:56>> We have the Brian Flores defense which blitzes at the highest rate per drop back in the league. Um they get the
65:02highest rate of quick pressure, the highest rate of pressure. Um, they're actually a good blitzing team. They're not blitzing for no reason. They're
65:08blitzing for a very important reason, which is that they don't get pressure.
65:11Things get wonky on the back end.
65:14>> That worked really well against golf last week, who's normally good against the Blitz. He now gets Lamar Jackson, who's even better against the Blitz.
65:21Does Jackson light up this Vikings defense?
65:25>> Yeah. Uh, Brian Flores, uh, wrecked wrecked my wagon last week.
65:29>> Yeah.
65:30>> Uh, specifically Jir. He had Jir Gibbs in hell last week. Oh, like absolute jail uh with those interior blitzes like
65:37and you know Dan Campbell talked about it this week about you know how like they just didn't adjust and it's like
65:42that's what's going on the Lions. Lions are just here. We'll get the Lions. I'll save that. Uh but Brian Flores did an
65:47excellent job of of making putting Jir Gibbs into a bad spot. But when they didn't get pressure like Jared G was
65:53still 18 to 24 just under nine yards or pass attempt and like you said that's been the story of the year for them.
65:58When the Vikings don't get pressure, they're 29th in yards or pass attempt allowed, 20th in touchdown rate allowed.
66:03And if you don't get pressure on Lamar Jackson, like that's that's a problem as well. I'm very curious though to see
66:09what Brian Flores does in this game because if you remember like back in 2021, the last time these teams played, this was like a fulcrum point for Lamar
66:17Jackson's career and you know, specifically Greg Roman doing a terrible job that night. Uh remember this was like they played on I think it was a
66:23Thursday night or a Sunday night game.
66:24It was definitely a prime time game, but Brian Fuller just spammed cover zero blitzes. It was he had 21 cover zero
66:31blitzes against Lamar Jackson. It was by far the most >> just did this to him earlier this year too >> and there was a couple times where that
66:38happened uh after this like we found the thing because that that still's kind of worked a little bit against Lamar even
66:45under Todd Mon. So Lamar's amazing blitz numbers against uh since he's had Monan, but cover zero under Monan, this is not
66:53just like this year, this is the the two years plus, he only has a 54% completion rate and 4.6 yards for pass attempt
67:00against cover zero. Um and last year I wrote about this in the playoffs when the Bills calibrated. It's like it's like choosing a lesser of evils because
67:08Lamar is Lamar. He's going to do some Lamar stuff in the game, but if you play just like zone and zone blitzes, like
67:13Lamar is absolutely killing like 12 yards for pass attempt under Minan.
67:17Again, not even just this year. 9.7 yards for pass attempt to get zone coverage in general under Monan. Like these all lead the league and then man
67:24blitzes, it goes down to seven and a half yards for past them. That's still 13th in the league, but it's like it's
67:29not first in the league. So, you're choosing like the lesser of evils of like, hey, this dude's a really good player. How can we just disrupt him in
67:36any capacity? And although the Vikings don't play like they play a lot of zone behind their blitzes, they still are actually third this season in rate of
67:44cover zero this year. So I'm very curious just to see what he does. Now I think Lamar is still going to be very
67:50good here and indoors and the the the Ravens are just so good in general with under Mon with Lamar like they're
67:58averaging 6.4 yards per play when he's been on the field this year. Uh by far would be number one. So but I am just
68:04the cat and mouse game is intriguing to me.
68:07It's intriguing to me, too. And this is one of those games [clears throat] I talked about kind of like low confidence
68:13but high upside. And this is very much on that list for me where um I can see the Vikings being pretty
68:21fun here. Um and I can see the Ravens being really really fun. Uh but I could also see Brian Flores like he did last
68:30week kind of getting the better of the opposing quarterback. So, it's not it's not locked in.
68:34>> The um the Vikings defense has been a big run funnel. Teams are averaging a 55% pass rate against them with a minus
68:425% proe and a 4% shift to the run, but the Vikings aren't that bad against the run. And it seems >> Well, they're all over the place.
68:50>> They're a little Yeah, they they've been but they uh obviously they're quite good last week. It's more that teams are kind
68:58of avoiding this blitzing defense. uh you know from from the pass perspective than they are like attacking a big weakness um like this isn't the Giants
69:08you know this is a solid run defense it's just like running on them helps you avoid the pass rush well what if Lamar's
69:16cooking against the pass rush and and is attacking a pretty weak secondary like there's this the numbers that say oh you
69:23run on the Vikings might not apply here this might be a spot where actually you pass on the Vikings kind of like we saw
69:29with the Eagles The Eagles were very effective when they played the Vikings and had big plays downfield. And so there's definitely upside for that here.
69:39Um Z Flowers just got double teamed a ton against the Dolphins. 42% double coverage rate, his highest of the year by far. Uh he hasn't actually faced that
69:49much double coverage this year. It's only 53rd percentile double coverage rate. The Vikings double cover at the highest rate in the league. So it could
69:57be a tough game for Flowers. He's also kind of volatile here. He could also rack up a bunch of targets against the
70:03Blitz. Um, but Baitman is someone who I'm like more interested in than usual.
70:10Another one of these like, you know, slanty guys where you're like, "Yeah, I think in this week maybe, you know, we
70:16we bet on some big plays downfield." If you get extra defensive attention to flowers, we're kind of betting on, you know, the the Ravens maybe to be
70:26achieving success more in like fits and starts than just like, you know, amazing success rate, you know, play after play, moving the ball downfield in chunks, but
70:34instead hitting them for big plays.
70:36>> That's what I think.
70:36>> Baitman fits that pretty well. So, he's someone that jumped out to me in this matchup. And then you do have Derrick
70:42Henry who what if they do lean on the run? um you know, he's he could be the engine of the offense if if uh the blitz
70:50is really disrupting Lamar. So, there's like a number of ways I can see this game playing out, but there's some fun
70:56angles.
70:57>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh and it's like we're getting the Ravens like uh indoors, which is like not something we we very
71:03often get them, you know, playing on turf, which is kind of fun. A team that can definitely create explosives, too. I
71:09kind of see it similarly like I could see the Vikings having like some maybe even have like a decent success rate
71:15here but like when they give up plays like they're going to give up explosives I think uh this Raven to this Ravens
71:21offense like it's going to be a game still where it evens out like we're where maybe I should approach that differently. Maybe I should say the
71:26Ravens have maybe a lower success rate in offense than typical but still have like a high yards per play. Uh, and
71:32that's what that's what I bet on last week cuz I was like I kind of liked Goff last week and thought that he uh like I
71:39had a stack with >> and they still scored. The the passing stack still cash like I had a Lions passing stack that was still good.
71:46>> Yeah. But the problem was the success rate was lower than usual and then the efficiency was also lower than usual.
71:52But you want you want them to be kind of like more like the Eagles model. But um the Vikings are 26th in preventing
72:00explosive plays. They're 24th in coverage grade. They're 31st in uh allowing efficiency in the splash zone, 10 plus yards and over the middle. So,
72:09you are they are allowing like those those big chunk plays that that create Yak. You know, you can see Andrews getting loose in the middle of the
72:16field. Flowers, you know, getting some of those targets. Maybe this could be there could be some real highlight throws and highlight plays on the Ravens
72:23side. Um, on the Vikings side, I'm kind of diverging from some of the enthusiasm with JJ McCarthy last week where he like
72:34he was 21st percentile in e paper play against the Lions. He was 17th percentile in success rate. Like that was a defensive driven win I think. Um,
72:44>> special teams and defense were huge for them last week.
72:48>> Yeah. And so McCarthy like, oh, maybe McCarthy's not so bad. that narrative I'm selling. Like we never should have been as confident that he was atrocious
72:58as we were with two games on his resume.
73:01>> And we still shouldn't be confident that he's that he's really bad, but I don't think that last week gave us like a ton
73:06of reason to think he's good. Um, >> however, if you look at this matchup, this is a spot where a a McCarthy style
73:16quarterback, even if not very good, could have a good game. And and that style, by the way, is a semi-mobile bonixian type of rusher.
73:25They have like almost identical rushing stats this year, at least they did, heading into into Thursday. And uh you have an a guy who holds the ball a
73:35really long time, but who is attacking deep. He has the highest deep uh attempt rate in the NFL. And so you have this
73:43profile that looks kind of similar to like Jackson Darts, um a little bit like, you know, Jaylen Herz with obviously worse rushing equity. You
73:51don't get the tush push and stuff, but it's like this kind of bonex level rusher, but he's like attack. He's holding the ball and attacking
73:57downfield, you know, kind of like uh like a Justin Fields, but without, you know, not as much rushing equity like like Drake May. Drake May's uh 3.07
74:07second time to throw. Um uh McCarthy is at 3.10. So, they're very similar there.
74:14Uh he's tied with Jackson Dart. Dart is probably the the best comp where you have this this rushing equity that's not
74:20amazing but is something and then you've got a guy who's attacking downfield.
74:24Well, the Ravens pass rush isn't good.
74:27They're very banged up. Um Nami Madabk has been out for weeks. Broadick Washington now on IR. Tavius Robinson who's on IR. They traded Adafay to the
74:36Chargers to get Alohai Gilman. So um they just don't really have any dudes in the trash drones this week.
74:44>> Yeah, they did. But I'm I mean I don't think it's going to like >> it's a body. I'm saying yeah they they
74:50they they are aware of it too is what we're saying.
74:53>> Yeah. I mean Kyle Hamilton's kind of the guy right now.
74:56>> Yeah. He's basically just playing the edge linebacker, >> right? And that's what So the Gilman trade's been helpful that way. But I
75:02mean they're they're 29th in quick pressure rate. They're 30th in pressure rate. And um you know they they've lost a couple other dudes other than Mabke
75:11now with Washington. So and Robinson. So yeah, it's it's a it's a spot where like, okay, you probably can hold the
75:17ball against the Ravens and you can kind of run around and like, you know, be like a little Caleb Williamsy, right?
75:24Which doesn't mean you're going to actually succeed because Williams flopped in this very matchup. But um you know, it's intriguing to me. I I think
75:34the I think the Vikings could actually be pretty funny. Like even if McCarthy's bad ultimately, like big picture, he's a bust. I think this could be a good game.
75:42And uh so that has me kind of intrigued.
75:45And you've got Jordan Addison who I think is kind of interesting in this game. Obviously Justin Jefferson, like Justin Jefferson, if McCarthy is good
75:51and comes alive in this matchup, like he could break the slate straight up. So I think uh I think Jefferson's really fun.
75:58Um and yeah, Addison's fun, too. So this is like super low confidence for me, especially because Christian Darasol popped up on the injury report, which
76:06would be a huge problem for the Vikings if he's out. Uh but my you know it's on my radar.
76:15>> Yeah. We just I want to see what McCarthy looks like just put like in in negative game state. We haven't seen it
76:21yet, right? Like it's they've been able to kind of nurse him along in all these games. Even the game that they outright
76:26like were never really they were right.
76:28>> Well, they were never really in it, but like the Falcons didn't really do anything either. So like >> yeah, >> it wasn't like you know like I would
76:35love to see the Ravens go up like 14 nothing here like and then just see what happen to to like actually have like a a
76:41nice like sampling to see like why McCarthy what do you have right like it's all the same stuff he did at
76:47Michigan like you know just kind of coaxing along like makes enough plays but like misses plays too >> like you're like all right man he you
76:56can see like he has it there on that play like that throw to nailer you're like all right we got it like and And
77:01like he he had another >> plays look good.
77:03>> Yeah. Then he had another play like third down earlier in the game that was like atrocious. Like a bad miss for a
77:08wide openen dude. It's just like all right. Like it's still not like very even. There's not a lot of consistency.
77:13So I would love to see them just put in a negative game state where we get more more so for the receivers because
77:17Jefferson's still been really good uh with McCarthy. Like target share hasn't been an issue. He's over two yards per run in all these games, but like he's
77:25running 27 routes per game with JJ McCarthy. Like that's not enough. you have to operate if you're running 27 routes per game, you have to be Jackson
77:32Smith and Jigba like right and it's just like really hard to do that. Like only one dude's ever done it ever and he's
77:37doing it right now. Um you know, but like you know with with Wentz he was running 39 routes per game and it's not
77:44like he was like amazing. He was still really good but like when you're running 39 routes per game you get a lot more
77:49leeway and you can stack volume. It's just harder to stack volume and it's and it's harder to go crazy for fantasy
77:55football when you're asked to win uh efficiently on 27 routes because even right now Jay McCarthy's not Sam Darnold so you know you don't have that going he
78:04doesn't have that going for him which is funny because they could have Sam Darnold but here you know I don't know
78:10>> yeah I mean it's definitely um you know >> they're just a wild card we won't know until we see it. Yeah, but the upside's
78:17like really high. Like this is a this is a game environment that we could see like we could be talking about Lamar
78:22pushing the Vikings throughout this game. Lamar is also underpriced. So like Lamar is a really strong play in DFS. I I like him a lot at at 6,800. Um I think
78:32he's he's kind of a smash, but >> if you do want to play and I I think I do if Darasol and I'm looking he doesn't
78:40have a designation. Maybe he just rested on Thursday, but Darasol being out would would really suck. Um, so but if he's if
78:47he's in, uh, then I think I'm going to have at least one stack of of this game.
78:53I might even do the thing where I I've been playing six lineups for a while. I might like play seven [laughter]
78:58to have to have a McCarthy one and not ruin my normal six. Um, but I'm I'm kind of excited about the potential for the
79:06Vikings to be pushed and McCarthy to be able to play like his style of football in an environment where, you know, he can he can kind of
79:16get away with that with the with the total lack of pass rush. So, um, and it's like, dude, I if you give me decent
79:24quarterback play, then the weapons can carry you. like just get to the 50th percentile and like they'll carry you over the line, you know? You don't need
79:33Yeah. Like just be okay. Just please be okay and have decent pass volume. I mean, McCarthy, I think, is 4,900.
79:41Uh yeah, he's 4,900 on DraftKings.
79:46>> Yeah. So, he's cheap. Yeah, he's definitely cheap enough especially you get a lot of drop backs and he can run.
79:52>> Are you is he going to make your I know you have a tight quarterback pull. I assume he's not going to make it.
79:56>> Probably. No, but you that was a it's a pretty good sell though like uh cuz I mean because I'm into the Ravens pushing
80:02them like >> Yeah, you know. So yeah, I mean to be fair salary.
80:08>> Yeah, we do need salary and you know >> and you you have to play him with Jefferson at 7,900. So there your salary
80:14is immediately gone.
80:16>> Yeah, it's gone. Uh to be fair though, like probably later I was going to try to sell you on 4,300 Davis Mills. So
80:22like what's the difference?
80:24>> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. You're not I'm going I'm going McCarthy all day. All day.
80:29I can't do Mills, man. I can't.
80:31>> Yeah. Well, Mills, you don't have to stack. That's the thing.
80:35>> I mean, you could stack You could stack McCarthy Addison. He's 5,400.
80:39>> Yeah, you can. You can. And like you could do uh Schultz, too, but I'm not doing that. It's literally a play just
80:44to get your to team jam him in, right?
80:46Like it's the old school >> playing paid for a pay down quarterback while on a slate where people are going to pay down for wide receivers because
80:53you want to get CMC plus Puka or Aman Rah like uh plus Dowel like you want to get the dudes in and like people are
81:01going to be building rosters this week through a bad receiver. But if you cuz like a McCarthy and like a Davis Mill
81:08I've heard people tout Kyle Williams dude.
81:10>> Yeah. Well I I brought him up a little bit. It's like a man like Ray. Oh, you were looking at me. [laughter] Ray
81:16Mloud, you we got Ray Mloud thrown out.
81:18I got one more real bad one later, too.
81:20Wait, just wait. Uh um but if you want to go the inverse route and just say, "Hey, McCarthy, uh which I think is a
81:27great shout for this same premise. Uh or Davis Mills, you play them Alcart, you don't even have to stack them." Yeah.
81:33And you're not you're not counting on them to give you a tournament worthy score at their salary. You're just counting them to beat salary because of
81:39what it does for the rest of their roster. If you beat Salary at quarterback, that is more significant than like our 3K receiver just beating
81:47salary and getting 11 points. Like if a Mills or McCarthy has like an 18 or 20 point game or god forbid even one of
81:53them gets to a bonus, >> uh you're in a way better spot then because you paid up for another wide receiver and you were able to kind of
82:01create a proxy of what people already were getting out of quarterbacks anyways. So, uh, there's just a way to play through that slate where you don't
82:07have to even you just play the cheap quarterback and you hope that hits because you're what you're that's allowing you to jam in the other guys.
82:13>> Naked McCarthy. It's kind it's kind of interesting.
82:15>> I mean, to be fair, it was a it was a it was a pretty good sell because of uh I
82:19was already in on the Ravens pushing them anyways, whereas uh really my only sell for Mills when we get there is the
82:24Jaguars are terrible. But >> now, if you're if you're sold on McCarthy, do me a favor and don't watch the video of him becoming nine. That's
82:33uh that's gonna get you off of of >> gonna get me off. Yeah.
82:37>> But no, I think it was I think it was solid. Yeah. So >> yeah, not a not a big not real into that. Someone was
82:45comparing it to the uh to the Russ Wilson stuff. Seems >> Yeah, there was some of that after the game. And uh yeah, there was there is a
82:55little bit, but I mean listen, yeah, he's a but he's a Harbaugh disciple.
82:57Like what do you expect out of these dudes? You know what I mean? Like like Harbaugh indoctrinated that dude like >> Yeah,
83:04>> it's like peak Harbaugh [ __ ] >> That [laughter] is some peak harbball for sure.
83:08>> Yeah, like Herbert's immune to it. Like basically Harbo had to go out of his way this off seasonason to call basically
83:14stopped short of calling Herbert Jesus because Herbert's so passive because just Herbert's just such like a you know >> Herbert does seem like more fired up
83:21this year though. It seems like it's he's he's broken through.
83:24>> Yeah. Like Harball's like dude how do I get through this dude? Like I just got to tell him he's Jesus. Like I gotta let
83:29him know like he's [laughter] football Jesus. Like it's the only way.
83:32>> What do you think Herbert's alter ego is? Is it Is it Is it like Herb and he's just like also like a pretty chill dude?
83:40>> Yeah, it would fit a Herb, too. Like, >> hey, it's Herb.
83:44>> Herb. [laughter] >> Hey, Herb's here. What's up, man?
83:49>> Hey. [laughter] >> But yeah. Yeah. JJ McCarthy is the Harbaugh of Harball quarterbacks. Like, for sure.
83:56>> For sure. Um, all right. Let's go to >> Yeah, I'm kind of into it. I'm I'm gonna play I'm gonna play a line.
84:02>> Yeah. Yeah, I think that was solid. I think it was a solid sell.
84:05>> Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. It might It might flop. But this is a slate. Like the other thing that you're selling
84:10yourself on, by the way, when you do um you know, the these like cheap quarterbacks is that like I win a
84:15tournament with like 205 points. You know, I don't need do I need 245? Maybe not.
84:22>> Yeah. And this might be a slate for that to be honest because >> uh it's not a super quarterback driven
84:27slate. Although we could have quarterback like there there's the argument to make for spike week quarterbacks. We talk about Josh Allen,
84:32we talk about but there there's enough volatility that maybe they don't get there. So it makes it's a tough week where like in a big enough tournament,
84:41>> you know, someone will have all the right pieces together, but it's a it's a week where I feel like >> someone's winning, you know, one of
84:47these smaller field like the smaller spy might have a snowflake in the winning lineup type of week where it's just like
84:53hard to be like right about all the things. To be fair, we have not had a slate this year where like I mean, man,
84:59I have been uh dude, last week I had like so many 195s to 205s and you have one piece bad, you can't win.
85:06>> And this this week might be the first week where we have like you just don't you can actually potentially, >> you know, be in like the front end of
85:13the circle with a miss maybe because people taking on a lot of risk this week.
85:18>> You have to you have to take risk.
85:20>> I called the uncomfortable slate. This is our first uncomfortable slate because of that.
85:23>> Yeah. I don't I don't think answer to this to this slate is like you know like I don't even know what the com all comfy
85:31clicks would even be because it's a price it's a tight pricing but like you're kind of forced to go take risks
85:35somewhere so >> it's just going to be hard to be right about um you know your entire lineup top to bottom someone will do it but in
85:42smaller field stuff you know maybe you can get there without massive massive scores >> uh before I always do like my Wednesday
85:50show I always want to see like where so I do like the worksheet first write up all players and then I don't want to be
85:54like influenced by anything. So I do all that first and we go on the Wednesday show where it's like the first look at
85:59the slate. I that's when I run like my first Sams. I don't make any rules. I just want to see like what the
86:03projections give us. And the first first round gave us gave me Keon Coleman and I was like oh it's one of these weeks. I
86:10was like hey it's one of these weeks.
86:12Like now you start to see like the Sims have like started to adjust up but like now you start to see guys like Jerry
86:16Judy popping in. It's just like all right like this is that kind of slate man.
86:20>> It is.
86:21>> It really is. Speaking of Browns at Jets, uh, are you are you playing Jerry Judy this week?
86:27>> I'm not, but someone will. I like Mike Leone probably will. Like the projection dudes. I mean, to be fair, like he's
86:33>> fired.
86:33>> He's 30. Listen, I tried last week. No, like that, you know, like he you know, listen, Mike's way more money than
86:39Oliver win at DS [laughter] because he's because he does [ __ ] like play Jerry Judy when he plays Jerry Judy
86:43when you're supposed to play.
86:44>> We we tried to sell Jerry Judy a couple weeks ago. I made a lineup with him because someone even tried to call
86:48>> I had a lineup.
86:49>> Someone tried to call us out. I was like, I was like, I'll show you the lineup. I played Judy.
86:52>> I didn't bother. I'm not really on X these days.
86:54>> No, I know. But >> I did have a Judy lineup. So, it wasn't that >> That was also the week I played Troy
86:59Franklin a ton. He didn't ask me about that. He only asked for the Judy lineup.
87:02But that's fair. But, uh, >> it is fair.
87:05>> But my problem is Jerry Judy has now become a circumference bet on Dylan Gabriel, >> right?
87:11>> I don't I that's a hard bet to make.
87:13Like you could I can absolutely be talking to Quinchon Judkins on this thing.
87:17>> Oh, I'm gonna try to talk you into him.
87:19>> Oh, yeah. I don't need it. I don't either. [laughter] But like Dylan Gabriel to targeting wide receivers this year has a 42%
87:29completion rate.
87:30>> Come on.
87:30>> The league average is 64%. The next closest quarterback is Cam Ward. He's 10% higher than Dylan Gabriel.
87:40>> It's I mean he he also Gabriel has targeted wide receivers only on 42.8% of his throws. Only Aaron Rogers is lower.
87:49So, not only is he not throwing to wide receivers a lot, when he does throw to them, he's not connecting with them. So,
87:56>> here's here's his success rate on the year. Um, he's like way worse. This is Cam Ward, right? This is Russell Wilson.
88:04This is Jake Browning.
88:05>> I love when you can diagnose the names because sometimes you'll get a cluster.
88:08You be like, "All right, well, where's the guy I'm looking for?" You're like, "No, it's so definitive. He's in his own
88:11area. He's on an island."
88:13>> Like, this chart would end here. Like this would just be a tighter chart.
88:17Yes.
88:17>> If not for this dot. Like it's crazy.
88:21>> His success.
88:21>> He's the Bermuda Triangle. He's the literal Bermuda Triangle. Like what are we?
88:29>> Yeah. So I mean it's it's it's pretty bad. They It's Stfansky just handed off play calling duties to Tommy Ree. Um
88:37which I think tells you something that like normally if you're the play caller head coach, you just change your quarterback. So, I do think it tells you
88:45they don't want to play Sanders. Um, but we're headed there anyway. I think given how bad >> there's no way that there's no way we
88:52don't see him eventually.
88:53>> We'll see him eventually. We'll see him in like week 17 and 18 when the season's completely ended. But I think they just
88:58don't want to like have >> everything. I don't want to deal with anything like either like it's just not worth the squeeze right now.
89:06>> It's not. So, with >> But this is a game where how many dropbacks are they going to have this game?
89:11>> Exactly. Exactly. And the and the Jets have been terrible against the pass, but they've been decent against the run.
89:18However, >> yes. However, >> Quinn Williams uh fifth most defensive snaps of any Jet this year. He was defensive tackle 17 in pass rush win
89:27rate. He's been a really good pass rusher over his career. Not amazing this year, but still good. But defensive tackle two in run stop win rate and
89:34defensive tackle one in the league in PFF's run defense grades. So, this dude was a legit run stuffer now on the
89:43Cowboys. Um, S Gardner gone. That'll obviously hurt more in pass coverage than in run defense, but he was uh quarterback four in run defense grade.
89:52Pretty good in the run game. Andre Cisco, safety, he's on injured reserve now. He was one of the best uh run
89:59defenders on the back end uh along with Gardner. So, both of those guys are gone.
90:04Um, they benched Quincy Williams, which probably doesn't matter, but you trade his brother and then bench him. And why didn't you just trade him, too? It's
90:13weird. Just seems like a defense like they just stripped this defense down.
90:18Like, I can't imagine what it's like to be left as a in the Jets defensive room.
90:23You know, it [laughter] >> imagine being Greece Hall and knowing the Chiefs offered that trade and they turned it down. Like you would rather
90:34just not know, right? Like it's just like >> you know like Bree Hall is like he's like in the shower not thinking about it
90:42and it just like hits me. He's just like like it's just like one of those like >> oh dude he probably thinks about it
90:49every hour.
90:50>> It pops into his brain uninvited. He's like I could be on the [ __ ] Chiefs.
90:54Dude, he's gonna think about it during this game in the second quarter when it's like they have they probably have like 14 yards of offense on their first
91:02three drives.
91:04>> Dude, >> I'm like such a big Bruce Hall fan and writing this up, I was like, >> nope.
91:09>> This is how I this is how I felt writing up writing them up heading into that Broncos game. Like this this is like you
91:16just don't don't touch don't touch the Jets. Just don't touch the Jets. It's going to be bad.
91:21>> It's gonna be real bad.
91:22>> Yeah. Yeah, with Quinnon Williams off the field this year, they face 68 running back runs. They've allowed 5.2 yards per carry, which would be 30th in
91:29the NFL, and one and a half yards before contact per rush. Again, that's just small sample. So, I flushed this thing
91:35out for the last three years without Quinn Williams. They faced 400 uh running back runs with him off the field. So, we have a 400 running back
91:43run sample against him. They're 29th in yards per carry allowed to running backs and 28th in success rate against those runs. So, pretty big deal. he's not
91:52playing in this game. Also for Quinchan Judkins, like he's the the prototypical dude. Like >> if they're playing with a lead, he's on
92:00the field getting all the touches. Uh he he's played 62% of the offensive snaps and the Browns are tied at the lead. He
92:06has 80% of the backfield touches and he's played 40% of the This is since he came back. Uh 40% of the snaps with them
92:12trailing in only 60% of the backfield touches. Like he's gonna be the offense.
92:17He had he practiced in full all week out of the buy. like there was nothing with his shoulder.
92:22>> He's gonna get the ball toned.
92:24>> You know what I thought was interesting was when he got hurt against the Patriots um Jerome Ford did not see his
92:30snap share increase really at all. Uh and Dylan Samson came in and had 46% snaps um with uh he he had been at 16%
92:40and 18% the week before. So it feels to me like maybe Samson is just kind of your your backup Judkins in a way and
92:47and Drone Fords is going to do his like >> do his thing. Yeah, >> quarter the snaps type of role. He had
92:520% of the attempts against the Patriots, 3% against the Dolphins. I view that view that as like additionally an additional bull signal for Judkins where
93:00it's like he doesn't have any competition. You know, his competition is like a a third down back who doesn't get carries. He's going to get all the
93:07carries. 76% of the carries against the Dolphins, 71% against the Steelers, and that's that's total team attempts. So, you know, includes uh scrambles and
93:16stuff. So, yeah. Yeah, I mean he's going to get fed and Tommy Reese's taking over his play caller. I've been thinking
93:24like, you know, this is narrative street stuff, but okay, you're Tommy Reese and you're looking at the recent game plans.
93:30You get a 79% pass rate against the Steelers, 74% against the Patriots, or you get 52% pass rate against the Vikings, 48% against the Dolphins. I
93:39know which camp I would want to be in as a first-time play caller in the NFL with Dylan Gabriel as my quarterback going
93:45against an absolutely atrocious Jets defense with an offense, by the way, that's going to just run the ball even if it means they score three points in
93:53this game. They're going to run the ball non-stop. So, I mean, >> they do have a competitive advantage.
93:59They do have a competitive advantage this week because they have not announced the quarterback again. Thanks, Aaron Glad.
94:06I made a rule that was a little too lenient that Aaron Glenn was allowed to play games with the quarterback as long as he had one win.
94:14And [laughter] so I So I said, "This is allowed."
94:17>> Yeah, >> you're allowed you're allowed not to tell us who the star I'm annoyed.
94:20>> It made the write up harder, but uh but yeah, I might I might institute a two- win rule if they lose this game, though.
94:27Um, yeah. I mean, the Jets side like >> it's not so the Browns run or the Browns pass defense and pass rush gets gets the
94:37publicity because they're awesome in and Miles Garrett's amazing, but Browns are first in DVO against the run, second in EPA against the run, first in success
94:45rate against the run. And guess what the Jets are going to do? [laughter] They're going to run Paul nonstop. This is going
94:52to be I mean, they have to. Oh, and they have to because you're going to throw Justin Fields to the Wolves of this. I
94:58assume, doesn't he? I don't know.
95:00Fields. I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't know. It's who Justin Fields, but I mean, dude, we've lived the Justin Fields under pressure scenario our whole
95:08lives. Like, >> it's also Taylor. Taylor has the slowest time to throw in the league.
95:13>> He's taking a longer time than Fields.
95:15>> It's getting there, dude. Yeah, you have to get the ball like quick quick quick.
95:20Drake May succeeded against them a little bit by just like taking a bunch of sacks and then killing them when he
95:24wasn't sacked.
95:26>> So, it can be done.
95:27>> They're not doing that.
95:28>> But they're not they're not Drake May, man. This is not Drake May. They're just going to get sacked. And then like what
95:35about the killing them when you don't get sacked part? Oh, yeah. I forgot about that part. I just got sacked eight
95:40times.
95:43So, yeah, it's going to be rough. It's going to be really rough.
95:45>> Yeah. If there's any case to may be made for Bree Hall, his heart's in it is that the Browns have been a lot worse uh on
95:52outside zone and especially against guys that are a little explosive like their only running backs that have had success against them. Uh because they go to 18th
95:59in the in the league, which is again just like lesser of evils, but middle of the pack against outside zone. Jir
96:04Gibbs, Devin Achan, and Trevan Henderson are the guys like the archetype of backs that have had good games against them.
96:09And I say good games like 91, 82, and 75 yards. You're not even smashing anything. But >> Patriots are doing a lot of like pitch
96:15out stuff like they were like, you know, like like tosses >> Hall is 45% outside zone rate. So like that that's what they do. So maybe
96:22there's like an opportunity that would be the only like say the glimmer of of sunshine through the the raincloud. Uh but it's still a stretch because the
96:32offense we're just not expecting to be good and like so what kind of ceiling are you getting? Also, this feels like
96:38the sunshine like after a hurricane, like after like your house has been destroyed, you're like, "Oh, the sun's peeking through it." Like,
96:44>> when you also too, like we don't know like when this stuff happens like how the the locker room we these dudes are
96:49human beings, like we don't know how they're going to respond.
96:52>> Like I have Well, we saw last year. Do you remember last year when Salah got fired? Like, they just shut it down.
97:00>> They were That team was trash after Salah got fired.
97:04I think what Glenn's doing like is if it feels like you're trying to have a team quit on you. Like you you're trading
97:12your best guys. You're literally benching one of those guys brother.
97:17>> And don't forget the week before they understand that >> they traded their other starting quarterback the week before >> to the Eagles.
97:24>> Yeah. I've forgotten that.
97:25>> Michael Carter. Although Michael Carter is not I mean he's you know kind of whatever but >> yeah but >> he was still like they're they're
97:31playing three new basically three quarterbacks that weren't starters this year to start the year.
97:37>> Yeah. And [clears throat] uh Aaria Thomas has not been good and he's going to have a big role now.
97:43>> Yeah.
97:43>> So >> play Jerry Judy.
97:48>> I mean it's gonna happen right? Like he's because he's out there running around but >> Oh god. But he is in that mix of dirty
97:55dudes that are like, "Hey, he's in the mix. You need dude." He's 39. He's 39.
98:00>> Oh, god damn it. God damn it.
98:03>> He's on the be on the field for 90% of the drop backs at 39.
98:08>> Listen, there's other options.
98:09>> There are other options.
98:10>> Other options. I don't think we have to do it.
98:12>> We don't. I was just saying he's going to be like there that pocket of dudes cuz he's going to pop in some sim stuff
98:17because just projection will always the median will always be like, "Well, this dude's out here." like >> well you know who might pop is uh is
98:24injoku if Fannon is dealing with this hammy I think he was at practice today and see if he >> he was he was uh they called him limited
98:31so he's questionable but yeah >> okay if he's out >> if he's out >> then yeah he'd have to be out but fan or
98:38um and Jooko would be like at 3200 legitimately interesting here um as a way to bet on this matchup >> 100% yeah if you get a guy out
98:48>> I was I was like really there was that pause and I was worried I was going to solo touting Injoku and I was just
98:53really thankful you said >> no. Yeah, he's out. Uh the bummer for Injoku is like clearly like where Gabriel's strengths are or like that's
99:00like where Fannon wins. So like >> Fannon's been like really good even with playing alongside injoku. Now they still get in the way of each other but like I
99:09think he's out scor he's outscored in Jooku I think in like three of the four games that they've played together.
99:15>> He's running more routes now.
99:17>> Yeah, >> he's the starter. I would say >> it makes sense like where he wins though. Like Gabriel's like he's the one
99:21functional dude for Gabriel.
99:23>> Right. Right. But Ajoko can do that stuff.
99:28F doing instead and he's doing it really well >> and he's their long-term answer at tight end now. So, >> you know, it makes sense. But
99:36>> shout out to Enjoku who did uh an escape room before me was in a group his rookie year. Uh >> he what?
99:42>> Yeah. Uh my so for for my birthday like this is when they were rookies. Uh we did an escape room in Cleveland and it
99:49was the same time uh Brown's rookie camp was going on. So it was like him, Jabril Peppers and our thing and like we're in
99:54there. We'd go to check in to go do our thing and like there's just like this this this huge dude in front of me. I'm
100:00like looking at him. I'm like gosh this there's like no way this is like a real dude. And like my buddy's like dude
100:05that's David and Jooku. And I was like oh yeah. Just shout it out and talk to him and stuff. Uh yeah. And like so they
100:10didn't get out though. They didn't get out. So anytime like injoku messes something up, my buddy's like, "We knew it then." Like if he has like a false
100:18like drop, he's like, "Dude, couldn't get out of the escape room." They didn't got escape room like >> I bet Harold Phantom would get out of
100:29the escape room.
100:30>> Yeah, I see. I I agree. I think he would.
100:32>> But no, shout out to Jo. Like that dude is like literally on fire. He set himself on fire last year. Like played
100:37like he was super happy he didn't get traded. He's like the first player that was ever happy not to get traded out of
100:41Cleveland. Like >> I know it was interesting. He was like psyched not to get traded.
100:45>> I mean that tells you something about their culture, right? That's better culture.
100:49>> I mean >> than the guy who's like literally like I can't believe I wasn't traded. This is ruining my life.
100:53>> I try to sell people out. It's actually a pretty decent place to live. Uh it's super cheap.
100:58>> Okay.
100:58>> So [laughter] >> well that shouldn't be why joke. I mean Joker has been paid pretty well actually.
101:03>> Yeah. Pretty good. Well, maybe he's just fiscally responsible, [laughter] >> you know, but he couldn't get an escape room, so maybe not. Maybe that doesn't
101:13track. [laughter] We got a lot of layers, a lot of things to a lot of things to >> to unpack [clears throat] here.
101:20>> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Who's to say? Um, all right. Let's move to >> the next game here. I mean, we we didn't
101:28really talk about the Jets passing game, but I just don't I think the answer is the answer is no.
101:32>> Yeah. Listen, if you have Bree Hall and Garrett Wilson, you're probably playing season.
101:36>> You're probably starting him. You're probably starting him.
101:39>> You hope for the best.
101:40>> And I have him ranked like reasonably normally. Like I have Wilson as I have him tiered as a wide receiver, too, but
101:46I have him wide receiver 13 in the ranks, which I wish I wish he could be lower, but there's guys one by. Um
101:52>> yeah, it is a tougher receiver week this week.
101:55>> I have a running back, too, and he's he's running back 14, so kind of similar. Uh you're probably boxed in to
102:02playing them. Yeah, but I mean there's not a lot of ceiling here, I don't think.
102:06>> No, the ceiling is just not >> based on the based on the quarterback.
102:10>> Speaking of a lack of ceiling, we have a Davis Mills offense up next. Do you want to try to sell me on this this naked
102:17Davis?
102:17>> Well, yeah. My thing was he's 40. He's mpriced and uh the Jaguars are a little bit uh of a pass funnel because they're
102:24pretty good against the run and they have a lot of top 10 quarterback in four straight games and one of them was Gino
102:29Smith who I swear to God has been one of the worst quarterbacks I've watched this year play um and was again
102:35>> I just watched all that and in prime vision they should have stopped the prime vision on the Raiders like this is
102:45>> this is dirty not allowed to [laughter] >> listen Bo Nicks was certified ly bad too, but Gito Smith was like I couldn't
102:52like So that's it. I ran on the case of like >> I I when I saw Picket warming up I was
102:57like do it.
102:58>> I want I want to see Kenny Picket. And I've been I'm probably one of the biggest Kenny Picket haters out there.
103:04>> I was I literally when I saw him I was like yes I want Picket. give me.
103:08>> But the the Jaguars have tanked defensively uh over the they're 28th in EPA over the past month as a defense
103:16because they're not getting all those turnovers they got to open the year. Uh since week five they have the lowest sack rate in the NFL. Like they're not
103:23getting nearly the pressure they were early in the season.
103:25>> Um so just yeah bad bad pass defense that's pretty good against the run minric quarterback allows me to get Rico
103:32Dael Puka Christian McCaffrey all in one lineup. That was my only sell was like I you just need him to beat his salary. So
103:38like if he got 16 fantasy points, you'd be like this makes my lineup a lot better. Uh which I think he's capable of
103:44in this matchup getting like 16 fantasy points. But I do like the the the adjacent McCarthy shot as well for the
103:49same purposes.
103:51>> Yeah. And and I actually do think that, you know, if you're if you're like, "Hey, let me get 16 fantasy points that
103:57that makes, you know, things go for me in the lineup." I'm hoping that he kind of like is Spencer Rattlery, you know,
104:06um this year, which I mean as a compliment in this case where it's like the wheels aren't falling off. Um even
104:12if he's not good, I I do feel obligated to mention uh Nugget from the walkthrough. Among quarterbacks with 500 500 plus plays since 2021, which when he
104:22came into the league, >> only Zach Wilson, Deshawn Watson, and Will Levis rank worse in success rate.
104:30only uh Zack Wilson, Deshun Watson, Spencer Rattler, Will Levvice, Sam Howell, and Bryce Young, which is not a great sign for Bryce Young, ranked worse
104:38in EPA per game. Here's the chart with him here.
104:41>> Um you you see [laughter] Cooper Rush here. Anthony Richardson is above him in both success rate and EPA per game.
104:48>> Do you remember two years ago when Straoud missed uh they did even let Davis Mills play? They played Case Keum.
104:53>> I forgot that. God, you >> remember? Yeah. Do you remember that happened?
104:58It's I mean is look at Zach Wilson down here alone. Um >> it's it's this is rough man. This is like there's there's some backup
105:07quarterbacks we got going this week.
105:08>> Um I >> 2025 Gino Smith through four touchdowns against the Jaguars.
105:15>> Yeah. No, >> maybe it was just Brock Bowers and not Gino Smith. Maybe it was actually Brock Powers.
105:20>> It was just Brock Powers.
105:21>> You do have Nico Collins back here. Um, so yeah, I mean, and the Jags, the Jags really have been a pass funnel, as you
105:28mentioned, with the with the good run defense. Um, we saw 71% pass rate from the Raiders against >> never gets as fun as potentially Ravens.
105:36Uh, >> never can.
105:38>> No, this this to me is more um more Saints Panthers or something like it's it's, you know, you're like hoping for a
105:47piece or two to to do something. Um the the other problem that I do have with this game, even from the Mills side, is
105:56that Lawrence could melt down here in a really big way.
106:00>> Oh god. Yeah.
106:02>> And and you have the Texans pass defense first in DVOA, first in EPA, second in success rate against the pass. And you
106:10know, Lawrence, it looked like, okay, maybe maybe this off maybe this offensive line is pretty solid.
106:17No, they just had a really easy schedule to start. It's not terrible, but you know, they can you can definitely definitely pressure Lawrence. Um,
106:27>> and his he's just been bad this year, man. That's the biggest thing. Like quarterback 25 in EPA per game and
106:32quarterback 32 in success rate and now gets the number one defense in DVO and EPA. Like >> it's just it's just rough. Um, they're
106:40also probably without their left guard here. Uh, he's been backto-back DMP. Uh, you've got multiple pass rushers like this. Like Rankkins has been solid. Uh,
106:50Will Anderson's awesome. Denil Hunter's awesome. So, it's just a really, really tough matchup. They'll probably try to pivot to the run here. Um, the run
106:59defense isn't as good for the Texans.
107:01It's it's more middling. Um, it's not bad, but it's, you know, it's not fearsome the way the pass defense is.
107:07And so, ETN's, I think, kind of interesting here. But this this game really like last night's game might kind of feel like this like it's like that
107:16sloggy >> where there's like 10 minutes left in the third quarter and it feels like next field goal wins.
107:21>> Well, that the first the first time these teams played it was like that.
107:25>> Yeah. And I I I mean this is just I don't know. I don't I don't have much faith in Lawrence. And by the way, I
107:32mean, Hunter and Thomas are out and you got Jacobe Myers on a short week and you got like Deami Brown, Parker Washington
107:37is probably the the guys running the most routes. Like, it's just even even Brett Strange being out is is a problem.
107:43Um >> Yeah, it's all bad.
107:45>> It's all bad. So, this game environment is just >> all bad.
107:48>> Yeah, it seems terrible.
107:52>> Yeah. and and you know like your season long stuff you're still playing Nico.
107:55But I couldn't even like talk myself into doing like a Nico stack because like he's not offering like any real ceiling and he's not his price hasn't
108:04like super adjusted. It's gone down a little bit but it's not to the point >> pretty expensive.
108:08>> Yeah. It's not to the point where like I there's he's still priced in a zone where I'm like well I just rather play
108:13these other guys if I'm paying like this in this ballpark for like I'd rather play Jaylen Wadd than Nico Collins pretty wholeheartedly. Um,
108:21>> the one piece that I do kind of like is ETN, but I should say that's from the perspective of I'm normally lower than
108:29consensus on ETN because I, you know, he's so dependent on the breakaway yards, success rate's poor and and I like Bashalt Tutin and want to see him
108:37get more run. But coming out of the buy, Tutin was just 25% of snaps. Kind of same old same old there.
108:42>> Um, ETN had a 52% carry share. He got the he pilered that goal line touch which has been a problem sometimes for
108:49ETN is um because >> they're kind of rotating him around.
108:52>> He hasn't scored on the ground since week four.
108:56>> Um and his touchdowns this season rushing touchdowns are from 10 and 48 yards and the one of them the Texans
109:02allowed him to score in the first game.
109:04>> Oh, right.
109:06>> They let him score to get the ball back.
109:08Uh so yeah, it's just it's a you're right. It's just a tough spot. uh season long stuff you're playing probably most
109:14of these regular dudes like even Daltton Schultz is like streamable in this game if you had like a Jake Ferguson >> uh on by
109:20>> I don't want to play him with DFS Kelsey. No, no, no. Like I said, I would my >> salary he he's I would say like it would
109:27it's it's fine, but I just I don't think I'm doing it.
109:30>> No. Uh yeah, I'd agree. I'd rather like Joan Johnson. Um >> me too.
109:34>> Yeah. Than than than at that in that price range than there. So most of these guys you're probably sticking with. Uh,
109:40I'd still be concerned about Parker Washington here. I know like if you're going people are going back to I mean he
109:44had 11 targets in the first time these teams played and only had four catches for 34 yards. Like this is just a too
109:51good of a defense, man.
109:53>> So, you mentioned the Davis Mills thing.
109:58What about Chuck? He's 4,300 too.
110:02>> I I have no faith in him getting 16 points, though. [laughter] >> Okay. But see the So the thing is is
110:09none of those guy none of those teams allowed four passing touchdowns to 2025 Gino Smith.
110:14>> That's okay. All right. Fair. [laughter] That's very fair.
110:22Yeah.
110:24God. Mills. I I'm just I'm just like Mills. I get >> Oh, you're not wrong. You're not wrong about it either.
110:30>> Yeah.
110:32>> Um and Chuck could be anything. Even slightly better than Davis Mills.
110:36Could be a boat.
110:38>> I don't think he is a boat.
110:43>> Um, all right.
110:43>> But it is it's just one of these games.
110:44Yeah. It's not It's just not flattering.
110:46>> No, I'm almost shocked that's not in the in the late window. Like they normally make us sit through it.
110:52>> Yeah. Yeah. [snorts] Um >> Well, they gave us they put the Jaguars in the late window last week and they're
110:58like, "We can't do it two weeks in a row."
110:59>> Yeah. I'm really happy that it's the seventh seventh game on the early slate.
111:03We can just ignore it. Uh, Cardinals and Seahawks, another game with a with a terrifying defense and sort of a backup
111:14quarterback, maybe now the starter. Um, certainly the starter for the next four weeks and maybe going forward. Um, but one where I'm a little less
111:22concerned, um, Jacobe Brassette, I think like I'm looking at his numbers, he's got the same career efficiency, um, as Daniel Jones basically in terms of EPA
111:33per game. Um, you know, he he's been okay. He's not been great, you know, but he's been solid to where you could you could see
111:44him doing what he's done so far for the rest of the year. He's 61st percentile, 49th, and 69th in EPA per play in his
111:51three games this year. And this is a really tough matchup, but you're like hoping that the wheels don't fall off.
111:56Um, you don't need him to be to be great. like just just keep the Cardinals semifunctional [snorts] here and then all of a sudden the
112:04Seahawks side becomes more interesting because the Seahawks the passing side is is quite intriguing.
112:12Squirrel Patrol mentioned Sam Darnold as one of his plays this week and >> I'm kind of into it because um it's it's
112:19not someone who was really on my radar from a DFS perspective, but I I think it's a really interesting call. You're
112:24looking at a a really banged up Cardinals defense. Um they're going to be out uh Will Johnson and Max Melton.
112:32Um >> Will Johnson didn't play in the first game either.
112:35>> Oh, interesting. Yeah. Uh Melton's in the concussion protocol.
112:39Johnson uh limited with a back injury on Wednesday and then downgraded to be DNP on Thursday. So uncertain um if these
112:46guys are actually out, but it looks like they probably will be. Uh Cardinals have not been good at protecting the splash
112:52zone and JSN leads all wide receivers in splash zone target rate. And I was just noting in the walkthrough like this is I
112:59mean you want a guy to like be consistently hitting four plus yards per out run week after week. Like this is a
113:04big part of it. It's a big part of what Tyreek Hill was doing where you get the ball uh over the deep middle of the
113:09field and and you're getting a ton of yak. He's got 4.41 yards per route run this year and it's week 10. It's it's
113:16really crazy.
113:16>> He's the most through since we've we have the data at this point of a season.
113:20He's number one.
113:22>> Yeah. Yeah.
113:23>> The only player that's even come close to four yards per out run is 2023 Tyreek.
113:28>> Tyreek 3.72 including the playoffs right here.
113:31>> Yeah. He averages uh 6.4 yards per out run on play action. He averages 4.1 yards on pre-nap motion. And even if you
113:39remove all the pre- snap motion and all the play action, he averages 4.9 yards per out run without any of the stuff.
113:45>> Uh the base rate for wide receivers, >> the base rate for wide receivers on that is 1.3 yards per out run.
113:52Um, so like that's crazy. I mean is to be fair though, this was the one matchup that kind of gave them trouble and this
113:59is so that's what I find interesting about the Darnold stuff. So like Darnold's been like pretty clearcut like when he's going to be good and bad or
114:05like for fantasy football uh since these teams last met. I mean his spike weeks have come against uh the Buccaneers, the
114:13Jaguars, and the Commanders. All teams that struggle against play action passing and did come into that matchup.
114:18I've got receipts on all of these worksheet mit writeups uh for this. The Cardinals are actually the opposite of this. Uh on play action passes, they're
114:27second in the NFL in completion rate allowed. They're fourth in yards for pass attempt. When these teams met in week four, Darnold was two of seven on
114:33play action passes. Uh on throws 10 or more yards downfield, the Arizona Cardinals are fifth in completion rate.
114:40They've allowed a 1% touchdown rate. The league by far the lowest in the NFL. So, I'm very curious because they get
114:46usually Darnold spots have like been pretty clear-cut. Like all his spike weeks come in very obvious matchups and this really isn't one. Um, and it's a
114:54and it's a divisional rematch. Jonathan Ganon's whole gambit is to not give up big plays. It's like his whole like antithesis of like all defensive
115:03philosophy.
115:04>> So, that's why I don't think it structurally fits like where Darnold typically looks like. U So, that's what's interesting. That's why I think
115:10that that >> Cardinal have the lowest play action rate run against them actually. Um >> because you can't they just play shell.
115:17They just play coverage.
115:20This is like what >> That's a really interesting note.
115:22>> Yeah, it's all Jonathan Ganon does, man.
115:26Well, now I'm now I'm less interested in the passing game and and it's always it's fragile because I mean JSN's obviously a smash, but um you know,
115:34Darnold and it's like >> you need the you need the Cardinals to be able to push back a little bit here.
115:41And then even if they do push back, the Seahawks are kind of playing a different brand of football than everybody else.
115:46They're just running the ball, man.
115:47They're running the ball non-stop. They have a 53% pass rate, >> 3% lower than the second place Lions at 56%.
115:54>> Um They're second in the league in success rate passing and 25th in success rate rushing.
116:01>> It's It's really crazy. I mean, but you know, it is kind of working.
116:05>> Yeah. Weird.
116:06>> Well, they're not going to break tendency because because it is working like >> Yeah.
116:10>> But we've seen it though uh a couple weeks ago like when they faced the Texans like a capable defense like you
116:17know that's where it doesn't spike and doesn't necessarily hit. When they faced the Cardinals it didn't hit. uh when they face the 49ers uh you know so it's
116:26like well now when they probably rematch 49ers it'll be different but with the healthy version >> they have no guys left but
116:36>> so I'm a little more interested because like I I've like pretty felt like I've been pretty on like just calling Darnold
116:40out like this is clear-cut like smash Darnold like this is a trust week for him this week I was a little more like
116:46ah I kind of would rather use him as a QB2 >> okay >> but I mean you know if he can hit the
116:52wild card here will be the Brassette stuff, right? Because I just don't know how much success they'll have.
116:58>> Yeah. And it's it's tough because I I think the Seahawks defense is for real.
117:01>> Yeah, it is.
117:02>> And I think the versette like if you look at him this year, he looks like a little bit I don't know if I'd call him like a
117:10negative aggression candidate from what like like his success rate and and efficiency are kind of aligned. Like it's not like he's like doing stuff
117:18where you're like, man, he's really inconsistent and hitting big plays and that's going to regress, but but I do think he's a little bit of a negative
117:24aggression candidate from the perspective of his career numbers are not as good as what he's done over the last three weeks. And this is a player
117:31we kind of know who he is to some degree. So >> remember when Andy Dalton took over last year for a stretch and people were like,
117:36"Yes, this is exciting." And then it was like after four weeks of Andy Dton, you're like, "I don't know, man."
117:41>> Or like a couple games of Mariota and you're like, "Oh yeah, he runs. Like he's kind of fun." and then it stops
117:45being fun. It It feels like that is probably the most likely scenario.
117:50>> On the other hand, like he's executing the offense, they have weapons.
117:54>> Yeah. No. Yeah. It's It's probably going to be bad. But I kind of I kind of came away I wrote this up where I was like,
118:01>> I'm assuming I'm going to, you know, my initial look into this, I'm like, this is is bad for Brassette. And then I kind
118:07of the more I dug into it, I was like, I don't think this is that bad for him.
118:11It's definitely scary and the floor is really low, but I'm not sure like the most likely scenario is he just craters.
118:20I think the most likely scenario is he struggles compared to where he's been.
118:23>> Yeah, we would be probably more scared that Kyler implodes.
118:26>> Yeah, I honestly would be. I would be.
118:29Yeah, I think I think Br will be like, okay, can he sure they don't win the game and he doesn't look great, but like
118:35can they score like 17 points and get either Harrison or McBride a touchdown?
118:39Like, yeah, I think he can. That's that's kind of what I'm expecting. I don't know that that's enough to push Seattle. They're so committed to the
118:46run. You need you need efficiency on the Seattle side. So, the play action notes are really interesting because if the efficiency is down now, Darnold did have
118:54a 91st percentile mark in EP play against the Cardinals. The >> Yeah, he had a high Yard uh yards per pass attempt still.
119:02>> Yeah. So, he was still he was >> it was like we talked about like with Lamar like uh you know the splash plays,
119:07they still hit a few. remember that he got the ball back and he hit the the JSN. That was the game. JSN had no
119:12targets at halftime >> in that game, >> right? Yeah.
119:15>> He had he had like three runs and no targets. What is happening?
119:19>> What is going on here?
119:21>> And then uh >> and he finished fine, right?
119:23>> And he had he said 80 yards in the second half.
119:26>> Okay.
119:26>> They I think he finished with 70. It was the only game where he had didn't have he has 96 or more yards in every game
119:30but this one, but then literally had had 79 in one half. Uh, I think he only had six targets the whole game because he
119:37had zero at halftime, but then they they found a way to get the football. Also, the addition of Rasheed Shahed is
119:43probably a pretty big plus for Jackson with Jigba. Um, I think so.
119:49>> I compared sort of, you know, it's like not a perfect comp, but um, I was just noting Tyreek Kill's efficiency. You
119:57know, this is like the last time we've seen anything close to this. And we're seeing that that same splash zone usage.
120:03Now JSN's a little bit of a different player than Hill obviously, but I was like Shahed maybe his waddle. Is that is
120:09that where we're headed? Where he's, you know, also getting some of these same types of targets because Shahed's route tree is not just like nines. He actually
120:16runs >> the real routes now. So >> he's a good receiver, like a good actual wide receiver.
120:20>> He's a real receiver. So it it could be like Hill was just fine with Wadd, you know, kind of playing Robin. Um I don't
120:28think it's the worst thing. I mean, honestly, would be an awesome thing if they just passed more. Like, if this gave them confidence to pass more, like,
120:36hey, your you know what, your passing game is like kind of unstoppable now, now that Jahed's up to speed and, you
120:41know, he he's also producing really efficiently. Like, could you maybe pass it >> or at least pick a running back?
120:51>> I'm not I'm not mad. Don't put it in the paper. I'm mad.
120:53>> Yeah, but I think it's going to be a pro for uh JSN big picture. And granted, yes, he's going to share some targets in
121:01area yards. Like he's cuz he's got a player that's going to command areas.
121:05Like he had 52. He's got 52%. Like he can give away some like [laughter] >> Yeah.
121:13You know, it's a it's a he >> Are you suggesting target share philanthropy?
121:20>> Needs a give back to his >> Yeah. He's a give back.
121:24>> Give back.
121:24>> He's donating to AJ Barner. And although the Cardinals haven't given up like a ton of big plays, they haven't been
121:30unbeatable like in terms of giving up yardage. Like they gave up 100 yards to Calvin Ridley. They gave up 100 yards to
121:36Ricky Pieraw. They gave 100 yards to to Tener McMillan. So like Yeah.
121:43>> Yep.
121:44>> I'm more confident in the Seattle side than in the Arizona side, but uh that's >> I'm confident in them to to score points
121:51for sure. I just >> just that's more respect for the Seattle defense. But I do think that the floor is actually higher with Brassette than
121:59like scoring zero. Uh just because of functionally what that he allows him to do, play under center, the play action game. Um and Mike McDonald typically has
122:08not cared about letting Trey McBride do his thing. And I kind of respect it like you know because like McBride's one of
122:16these guys like you can let catch a bunch of passes but he needs like a lot of targets to go nuts. And like it's
122:22kind of like almost like like letting a running back go off a little bit in a sense. You're like we don't give up a
122:27bunch of eight yard catches to Trey McBride, but I'm not gonna give up a big play to someone else because in these
122:32games against Mike McDonald, it's Mike McDonald's defense. He has 14 targets, 15 targets, 14 targets, and 11 targets.
122:39And Mike McDonald's won all those games.
122:42He's like, you know, cool, man. Like, and this is the difference. I think McBride and like a big picture like dynasty stance versus like Bowers is
122:50like Bowowers is a dude that like put real crooked numbers up like on a low volume whereas like it's still like
122:55McBride >> has more of that Tucker craft where like you give them the ball and it's like oh actually I shouldn't be letting this guy
123:02get get targeted underneath because he's running 40 yards downfield now.
123:05>> Correct.
123:06>> You know, >> but I think some defenses like choose lesser evils. They're like, you know what, like Yeah, man. Like I'm not going
123:11to devote a bunch of resources to a guy that's going to catch a bunch of eight yard passes. Like it's why Jake Ferguson
123:16was catching all those passes early in the season. The Cowboys teams were like, you know what, he's getting six and a
123:20half yards for catch, man. Like what?
123:21Like what do you want us to do about that? Like we're trying to stop George Pickkins, man. And like granted, like
123:26Arizona doesn't have like a super dude.
123:28Like Marvin Harrison hasn't gone into that stratosphere yet, but like I'm just saying the way Mike McDonald has typically played these games is that
123:33like he's kind of let McBride do his thing. Like >> how the Cardinals not trade for Rasheed Jahed? They need him so bad.
123:41>> I mean, I there's a lot of teams like that. You're like, why wasn't the fit for this if this was the asking price,
123:46right?
123:46>> Right. The Patriots could have used him, >> but I would be nervous going back to Marv here. But McBride I'm in on like
123:52you do the stuff with McBride.
123:53>> McBride, McBride really separates from the rest of the tight ends on the slate.
123:56>> Absolutely. Plus, because he's the dude that's gotten the bump from Brassette because of the play action stuff. So even pre- buret change, he he was
124:05leading all tight ends in target share and play action passes. The problem was the Cardinals weren't running a lot of play action because their quarterback
124:12couldn't take snaps under center because he cannot see over scrimmage.
124:17>> He could see Rich if he just [laughter] sat on Bryce Young's shoulders.
124:22>> Yes. But now that they're running a lot more play action, this is where it's kind of like, you know, manifest. So he
124:30I mean he he's they're they're running he's like now he has a a 35% target share on play action passes number one
124:37in the NFL and they're running more play action so like >> you know so ma it matters more and then you're putting the the marriage together
124:44so I think he's good still >> just respect for the Seattle outside defense uh Marv I think season long you're good he had a touchdown against
124:52them in the first game >> I think you're good too >> yeah you're I mean I'm playing him still there but like I'm not chasing the
124:56Cowboys run out is basically all I'm for sure. Although I do think like it's one of those things where you know Caleb
125:04Williams spiking against the Cowboys, it's like yeah, it's the Cowboys. It's still nice to see if you the Cowboys that's bad, you know. So it's it's nice
125:12to see that's in there.
125:14>> Um it's been a tough start to the career for for Marvin Harrison and him to get that kind of mini breakout
125:19>> was really nice. Um so yeah, I like him in season long too.
125:23>> Yeah.
125:24>> Uh Trey McBride. Yeah. I mean he's someone I'll be playing in DFS. it just like, you know, could could lap the
125:30field and could not only lap the field, but like we talked about how hard it's going to be to find like the right
125:35pieces. So, you got like, you know, good lineup, zero at tight end type of situation and potentially a guy that you
125:41didn't pay nothing for. You know, you didn't you didn't punt with Greg Doulich. You you wasted like 4,300 bucks and uh and with 6,000 I lapped you with
125:50Trey McBride. That seems pretty plausible.
125:53>> Kenneth Walker saw his usage spike um last week. I I know Ben wrote that one up as as pretty interesting. Um that he
126:02was, you know, his snaps were up and >> it wasn't the snaps, it was they finally gave him some touches near the end.
126:08>> Some touches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Green zone touches as well. Um but yeah, 57% of snaps. Sharp was down to 35%.
126:16I noted that unfortunately he did have minus 15 rush yards over expected and a 30% success rate, which is both horrible
126:24numbers.
126:24>> The same same story as always. kind of like he he sort of flopped, you know, like if this was an audition, if he's
126:30installed, great. If this was an audition, I think they might call Zack Sharpet in for for an audition this week. So, uh,
126:41>> and they ran push with AJ Barer. That better not be a thing. [laughter] >> The last thing we want.
126:50>> Yeah, it really is. I mean, it's it's tough, man. I I still think this could easily be a split, but but
126:58what if it's Walker's backfield, I guess.
127:02>> Yeah. I mean, he's one of only three running backs had over 100 total yards against the Cardinals this year. The
127:07other two are Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. Um he he had a pretty good game against them the first game.
127:12If we can just we just needed the high value touches is all that's been missing from him because we know what kind of
127:16runner he is >> and they are still running the ball.
127:19It's just he went a span from the week Charburnet Mitt uh came back was week three to up until last week he had no
127:27touches inside the five, no touches inside the 10.
127:30>> So like we need those like because no one's catching passes out of his back field. They're not throwing running backs. So like they're the only Walker's
127:39thing anyway, >> right? The only high value touches we get are the scoring opportunities and they were all going to Charbanet. Um, so
127:45we just need those and those are tough to guess until it becomes like a consistent trend. It could, like you said, it could have been a one-off.
127:52>> It's hard to say, right? Like, but it was out of the buy. So, you're like kind of like, "All right,
127:56>> I think it was real." Like, I think they were like like I think it was a it was a signal in sense that they were like,
128:00"Hey, let's let's put more on on Kenneth Walker's plate." I do also think they're signaling that he like sucked, you know? It's like, hey, you know what?
128:12I looking at the tape, I think we should give Kenneth Walkmore a run. Then you do and you're like, o, you know, that could
128:18that could change your usage the following week.
128:22>> Yeah, >> but it also could be that, you know, Sharpet has been, you know, I've been negative about Walker, but Charbanet is
128:28running back 42 in rush yards expected per game. He has a 43% success rate, which is running back 14. That's quite a
128:35bit better than Walker's at 38%, running back 35. But Walker is running back 15 in breakaway yards per game. He breaks a
128:42lot more tackles, can actually hit long runs. So, it's like >> I if I were the Seahawks, I'd be like, "Hey, we've got two options. We can
128:50basically like have a fullback who never has any explosiveness, but will like pick up, you know, the yards we expect most of the time. And we have this other
129:00guy, super boom bust, but will hit long runs. Let's just like take, you know, eat our vegetables with the or just like
129:06take our lumps, I guess, is really what it is. Cuz these aren't vegetables.
129:10They're not good for you." But but take our lumps with Kenneth Walker with the negative runs because he's gonna pop some and we're built to run the ball.
129:17We're gonna run the ball all day. So eventually we're gonna get those long runs and then for short yardage and goal
129:22line, let's put in Zack. Like this seems like that should be easy enough, but it I don't know. They that's not how
129:28they're playing it. If if any now they're starting to give Walker some of the goal line stuff, which is good for
129:32us if we're playing Walker, but I don't really understand the usage.
129:36>> No, it's been tough. Sharon has two runs of 10 or more yards on 80 carries this year.
129:42>> Wait, wait, say that again.
129:43>> His two runs of 10 or more yards on 80 rushes.
129:46>> God, that hurt my head.
129:51>> Yeah, it's not great.
129:52>> I'm like instantly feel hung over.
129:56>> I mean, the the Seock should feel hung over. Like >> outside of him falling into the end.
130:03>> Yeah, >> maybe they're not thinking straight.
130:06>> Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's what's going on.
130:08>> Walker just comes in and like turns on the lights like, "Get out of here. God, God."
130:12>> Yeah. And this is a spot I'm not going to chase really much from Monday night's rotation with the Arizona backfield
130:17either. So, >> yeah, >> it's tough. They were kind of alternating drives uh for a while. De Marcado had >> looked okay.
130:28>> He looked he looked fine again like he ran he had a little run out against the Cowboys. Like, are we going to expect
130:33him to run on the Seahawks here? like this has largely been a team that's been bad at running all year >> against no matter who the running back
130:40is. Before James Connor got hurt, James Connor was bad.
130:43>> Uh and then we only had one sample with Trey Benson. Then it's been kind of these whack-a-ole dudes, but they've
130:49been pretty consistently bad all year.
130:50And they're on the road against a defense that is second in the league in rushing yards per game to running backs.
130:55They're ninth in yards allowed before contact, second yards per carry. Like >> first in EPA, second in.
131:01>> It's hard to It's hard to like talk yourself into doing this. This is a Denver level defense. Like >> they're just really good and they're at
131:08home. Like Seattle at home. Like their one bad game at home was the game they were missing all the dudes against big
131:13the the Bucks game that got hot.
131:16>> Um they were just and they were missing four starters.
131:20>> It's more of a Ben Denver style defense than level. I think Denver's better, but that it's like you can't run on them and
131:27you can't pass on them. It's it's a very difficult matchup. Um, yeah, I don't have much interest in the Cowboys runners or the uh the uh the Cardinals
131:35runners. They're both basically like like running back three types. Um, running back fours even. Yeah, I've got them I've got them both ranked as
131:43running back fours this week.
131:44>> Yeah, the only proc case I think you could go back to for Walker is if like you do luck box into those like high
131:49value touches being static here and they they work out is that this would be a week like those mid-rangy guys like it's
131:56there's not a lot of allure, right? And like we know someone's going to have a good game from there. So maybe you get
132:01lucky in a Tim. But >> it's definitely a step of faith though.
132:05Like absolutely.
132:07>> Let's go. Lions commanders. Um yeah, this is uh this is one I would actually put this in the could be fun.
132:17Fragile but could be fun group where if we have the teams push each other. Um this could be good or or maybe we don't
132:24even need the commanders to push too much.
132:27But um but if they just like don't roll over, which they did last week, but hopefully they don't do again. Um then
132:35we could have the Lions be pretty fun here. And we we have Jared Goff, I think, in a pretty good matchup.
132:40>> Oh, yeah.
132:41>> Um the Commanders defense has been has been very poor and it's it's also banged up. You got um safety Will Harris and
132:49quarterback Marshon Latimore and IR. Uh Quan Martin, another safety was a DMP with the hamstring on Wednesday, limited on Thursday. Okay, we'll see. Uh I'm
132:57assuming he probably goes, but with a hammy, you never know. Uh Trey Amos is banged up. He'll play, but this is a
133:04kind of, you know, a little bit of a diminished secondary and one that's been very bad. They're 31st in coverage grade
133:10and they're allowing explosive passes at the highest rate in the league. Um we are getting the narrative stuff with uh with Jameson Williams. You know, we got
133:18to get Jameson going. Do you want to get Jameson going? Like maybe call plays where he's the first read. Just a
133:23thought. Uh they don't seem to be doing that.
133:25>> Uh Pen Sul uh was back at practice. He looks like he's gonna play Taylor Decker and him were both >> uh DNP limited. Obviously those are the
133:35two tackles you want them to be playing if you're if you're betting on the Lions. They will be down their left
133:39guard Christian Mahogany. Um and that's a that's a downgrade down to down to his backup. So as long as those tackles go
133:46though, I think the Lions are set up for a nice bounce back here against a pretty weak defense.
133:52>> Yeah, 100%. I mean, this is this should be uh Alliance smash spot. I know we didn't get the wagon status last week,
133:58but it feels very much waggy this week.
134:01This defense is just down so bad. Dorren Armstrong was put on IR2 two weeks ago for the Commanders. The past four weeks,
134:07they're 30th in defensive success rate.
134:09They're 31st in points allowed per drive. And they're another one of these teams that just really schematically struggle with where the Lions like to
134:16operate, right? Like it's uh well, first of all, like even last week kept clean.
134:21Jared G was 18 to 24, 212 yards, 8.8 yards per pass, two touchdowns. For the season when he's kept clean, he has 17
134:28touchdowns, one interception, 8.6 yards or pass attempt. He uh 83% completion rate. And over the past five weeks, the Commanders have fallen to five uh 21st
134:39in pressure rate. They're just ravaged by injuries. Uh G runs a ton of play action. Uh he on play action, he's fifth
134:47in completion rate, third in yards for pass. That's where the Commanders just absolutely get bludgeoned is the play action pass. They also uh allow 18
134:55passing points per game which is only better than the Cowboys. Uh they've allowed QB1 scoring weeks to to Kale Williams, Sam Darnold, Mahomes, and Dak
135:02Presc which is a pretty good rogues gallery of dudes they face. But spike weeks to all of them.
135:07>> Um and the Lions are another one of these teams that are just like really better throwing the football right now.
135:13They are right now 31st.
135:14>> Tell that to John Morton, please.
135:16>> 31st in success rate running the ball.
135:18The Detroit Lions compared to eighth in success rate. They have a bunch of interior line injuries. Chris Mahogany is not going to play in this game. Dan
135:25Campbell say he's going to basically miss till December. Um >> yeah.
135:29>> So, >> and Decker Decker was DNP DNP >> with a shoulder. So, he's probably out.
135:36Um Su [clears throat] is full practice. So, that's that's nice.
135:40And I think off the injury report now, so that's that's pretty sweet. But I am more confident in them passing the ball
135:46here than I am them just outright like running the ball.
135:50>> Darasel, by the way, was also full practice today. So nice. Uh yeah, that's that's big for the Vikings. Yeah, I
135:57think um I guess my my concern I have more confidence in their ability to throw the ball like by a lot.
136:03>> I don't have confidence in their understanding that the passing game is the engine of the offense.
136:09>> Agreed.
136:10>> They have a 56% pass rate, second lowest in the league. They haven't had a positive pass rate we're expected in a
136:15single game this year. This really feels like a big difference to me compared to where Ben Johnson was. Like you could
136:20push the Lions and last year and the year before like they would they would flip a switch and they would pass all
136:27over you. Like they would they'd be like, "All right, we're a negative script. This is kind of a like a shootout type of type of game or or we
136:33need a comeback here. We're not going to win this game unless we start passing."
136:37and they would pass aggressively and effectively and they would win games.
136:40Like they were they've been I've really been rooting for them basically the entire Dan Campbell era. I just think they're really fun. But this is starting
136:47to lose faith a little bit with the John Morton Lions that that they play to win.
136:51I I love, you know, the run heaviness works if you're going to if you're in spots where you got to throw, you throw.
136:57I love that. Um but they're not really doing that so much. Now, this isn't one of those games. They're just going to be
137:03able to play from ahead here, you'd think. But >> Mhm. I still don't, you know, the weak spot of the defense is the passing game.
137:11So, it would make a ton of sense like this kind of like, you know, like the the elevated run first team, you know,
137:20that I thought we had. I think this is just like an old school run first team.
137:23Like, we run the ball. That's who we are. This is our identity. We're going to we're going to bang our heads against
137:28the wall if that's if that's what we have to do. But, we're going to run the ball. I expect them to have a negative
137:33passive expected. I know I'm going out on a limb given that we've we're looking at eight of those so far >> in a by-week. Um so yeah, but I mean
137:41it's just it's a little frustrating where you know if they if they were to attack through the air here, they could
137:46just they could kind of nuke this game, score 35, go home. Like you could you can run all you want in the fourth
137:52quarter after you if you finish putting up all the points, but I I don't really trust them to do that uh under Morton.
137:58>> Yeah, they did lose to the Commanders in the playoffs last year. I don't know if Dan Campbell >> holds anything here.
138:05>> I like that angle >> of maybe trying to They lost last week plus lost to the creators. This is the
138:10team that stopped them from going to the Super Bowl. Maybe we can get some motivation.
138:15>> I would really love how they handle this.
138:18>> I'm manufacturing that myself internally.
138:20>> Uh >> you're firing me up though. And I think I can feel like I'm I'm like putting myself in the Lions meeting room and
138:30hearing Dan Camp. Dan Campbell's fired up. His fa his nose is like even redder.
138:35You know, he's had an extra cup of coffee after what's his normal six. I mean, you just never see what happened
138:40to them last week where you had Brian Flores repeatedly doing the same thing over and over and just wrecking Jir Gibbs and like them not calibrating in
138:48game and then Dan Campbell coming out uh at the front of the week and being like, "Yeah, we messed up by not like fixing
138:56that in game." Like, and we're just not used to that. We're always used to the Lions like adjusting, like you said,
139:01adjusting to the game.
139:02>> Yeah.
139:03>> Like, and like that like we >> not really doing that as much this year.
139:06remember it. We started the season that way against the Packers. Like it's like where we've kind of been all year.
139:12>> Yeah.
139:13>> Yeah. They've always been a team of adjustments and like >> Yeah, we've just been missing that aspect this year. Now again, like they
139:21might not have to counter punch at all this game. It could just be what they want to do works. Uh [snorts] because
139:26the Commanders are just swirling the heart of darkness right now. They've lost by over 20 points three games in a row. Like they're like this team is like
139:34they're out of players. The vibes are all time bad. Their quarterback's out again. Terry McLaren's not playing.
139:41Like, it's just terrible. Like, it's the it's the vibes. The vibes are not good.
139:45>> The vibes are not good. And you have to think about incentives, right?
139:50Motivation of these coaches. What are you playing for? You know, it we'd love if they all these guys were like trying
139:56to maximize win probability in every second of a game, but they just aren't, right? like you're you're also thinking about trying not to get yourself
140:05embarrassed and you got Marcus Mariota back there. I could see them being really conservative in this game. Um I could see the Lions getting ahead and
140:15the Commanders running the ball and playing to score a touchdown instead of win, you know, cut the lead to to 10.
140:22That kind of >> we saw them get blown out by the Cowboys and they weren't any fun. like >> - 5% POE, minus 12 on first down against
140:31the Cowboys last week. Minus 12% POE, minus 17% on first down against the Seahawks. Yeah. I mean, they they both
140:40gave up and left their quarterback in in the fourth quarter who suffered a major elbow injury. Like, it's the worst of
140:47both worlds. Like, try try to win the game if you're going to leave your starting quarterback in, but I don't know. I mean, I I don't have a lot of
140:55faith in in Quinn and Kingsberry here to kind of just do what you have to do against the Lions. And what you have to
141:02do is throw. Lions 67% pass rate against >> 3% Poe against 3% shift to the pass. The Lions are going to push you. You have to
141:11throw. You have to play aggressively.
141:15I don't I don't know if the commanders will.
141:19Yeah, that's and then but everyone here if you you can make a case for any lion basically. Uh >> amra easy uh I think it's another
141:29Leapora week again. Uh funny keeps popping up with different signals but uh he's been targeted on 31% of his routes on play action. 3.4 yards per out run.
141:38Even removing the play action component here, Washington has just been gouged by tight ends anyways. 30th in touchdown rate and 31st in yards per target
141:46against tight ends. So, he's on the board again.
141:50>> Um, >> this is Jameson play.
141:53>> Jameson, sure. Um, >> I actually think, yeah, I made fun of the first two target rate stuff for Jameson, but I I think this could be a
142:00spot where, you know, he's getting loose.
142:02>> Well, this is a spot where he could actually have five targets and still be okay.
142:06>> Totally. Totally.
142:08>> They've allowed four The Commanders allowed 45 receptions to wide receivers and throws 10 or more yards downfield.
142:13It's the second most in the NFL. Um they're I mean dude they're allowing 14 yards per catch to wide receivers. Like
142:20it's just it's just not a good defense.
142:22They're giving up chunk chunk gains.
142:26>> Yeah, >> which is what we want. We do want the chunk gains.
142:29>> We do want chunk gains. That's true.
142:31Yeah. No, this is like you're you're betting on probably a couple targets is the way I put it um for Jameson
142:36Williams. But it is it's true. Those targets could really go your way. This is more of a seasonl long take, but
142:40>> he's pretty cheap on DraftKings.
142:42>> What What is he? He's in the four.
142:45>> He's 49.
142:47>> I wish he was like 43.
142:49>> Yeah, that's where Sllayton is. Sllayton is like the >> Yeah. Well, yeah, maybe four five because I would like easily play him
142:55over Sllayton. But >> yeah.
142:56>> Yeah. Um No, he's definitely in play.
142:59He's definitely in play.
143:01>> I do I would rank them St. Brown, Leaporta, Williams.
143:05>> That's how I would rank it, too.
143:07>> This is not a DFS play because he's 5K.
143:10Um although Scroll Patrol did mention him. um as as viable. But David Montgomery, I think, sets up reasonably well here. Uh he's been like he had 55%
143:21of the carries last week. He was up to he was up 41% against the Bucks. And he's been like he has a 1.58 yards per
143:29run this year. He led the league in yards per run last year. He's been a big part of their play action uh passing
143:36game in part because he's like kind of the more traditional downhill runner. So he's like on the field for those looks.
143:42Um probably not in part. That's like the whole reason I assume. But you know, but he's also I guess the other part of the
143:48reason is that he's the decent pass catcher actually. And um so even though Gibbs is a better pass catcher, Montgomery is benefiting from uh you
143:57know the play action looks and this could be a spot where we get plenty of play action. And so if Jameson's not
144:02getting open on that deep look first read, check it down to David Montgomery.
144:06Let him run. Um, I I think like I've got a league where I'm like, you know, flexing David Montgomery sometimes in a
144:15dynasty league and this will be one of those those weeks.
144:19>> Yeah. Uh, this would be like the prototypical Dave Montgomery environment as well. Um, yeah. And for the people that didn't know what I was talking
144:25about, I didn't see you earlier about the Gibbs stuff is last week Brian Flores just sent like a bunch of A gap
144:31pressures uh at the Lions and what it forced Gibbs to do is stay in pass protect. He passed protected on a
144:37career-high 15 snaps. He allowed seven pressures because he's a 200lb running back blocking Andrew Van Ginkle. Uh, no running back has allowed more than three
144:45pressures in a game this season because you just don't typically have that kind of passing protection volume. Um, and like he just took he just got punished
144:51the entire game. Gibbs though is having like kind of a an off year though in general because the Lions again the
144:57interior offensive line stuff's been an issue. Out of 44 running backs at 50 or more carries, he's 34th in run of 10 or
145:04more yards. Uh, and if you remove the offensive kind of line offensive line component, yards after contact this year, he's he's 35th sandwiched between
145:13Alvin Kamar and Woody Marks.
145:15>> Um, kind of odd like we're not getting like he something's been off about the run game in general and just he's been a
145:21little bit off himself. We did now we did just come off of a week before the buy we had 200 yards against the
145:26Buccaneers. Like so you're not like >> Yeah. Yeah.
145:29>> You're not like running from the hill.
145:30You're like, "Oh, what's wrong with him?" But like something's just been a little bit off with the run game uh in
145:35general.
145:37>> Yeah, I would note um just to go back to the tackle stuff, they have a reserve tackle has been solid. Um and so the
145:46fact that they'll have Su here is really important.
145:50>> Uh Dan Skipper is is their reserve tackle who's been solid. So he he'll fill in for Decker and I don't think
145:57>> who might pass off the line is a big issue. Is he is he catch passes? Yeah, he's like the dude they throw to you,
146:02right?
146:02>> The guy. Okay, >> he's like the lineman they >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I will say I got one gross one before we we shut this down.
146:11This is like another I have a punt play in this game.
146:15>> Go ahead.
146:15>> Uh is Jaylen Lane.
146:17>> Oh, all right.
146:18>> Yeah. So, with Luke McAffrey now out for the year, so we know Chris Moore is the Terry McLaren fill in. And McLaren's
146:24already out. He's not playing this game, but Chris Moore just goes out there and exercises like he he's got a 10% target
146:30per out rate and he's got less than a yard per out run. But basically, >> he was not targeted on 80% round
146:35participation against the Seahawks.
146:37>> Yeah, McCaffrey and Jaylen Lane were splitting duties. It's like they were kind of like rotating. Uh but with McAffrey out of the game last week,
146:45Jaylen Lane was back up to 70%. That's probably where he's going to be. He's not going to be in the like I said,
146:49Chris Moore will be the wide receiver, too. But here's the the the dynamics for here is um against man coverage, he's
146:56been targeted on 25% of his routes, three and a half yards per route run. He leads the Commanders in receiving yards
147:02against man coverage without Terry McLaren on the field. Uh we know Lion's fourth highest man coverage rate. Like we assume they'll be at least forced to
147:08throw at some point, but will they? Like you noted, they might not. Again, this guy could be a zero, but he's another
147:14one of these just like punt like or in your deeper league like you're really scouring to fill a spot like there might
147:21be something here.
147:24>> Okay. Yes, he's 3600.
147:26>> Um, so he's he's pretty cheap. We did talk about Ray Ray Mloud, so he's he's kind of he's like a premium premium.
147:34>> You got Ray Ray Mloud, Kyle Williams, and uh Jaylen Lane. This is what this slate is offering you. Uh >> he's comfy compared to compared to a
147:43couple of those guys. I mean yeah >> they he was a he was a relatively draft capital guy too. Like the team did at
147:50least invest into >> fourth round pick I think. Yeah.
147:53>> Yeah. So [laughter] >> yeah.
147:55>> I don't know. Listen again this is where we are.
147:58>> This is where we are. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean Debo Samuel I wasn't that into. I know he projects pretty
148:07well, but um >> he's clearly still playing injured.
148:12>> Yeah, he hasn't been efficient and I just don't trust volume here. So, I kind of like the call on on Lane a bit more.
148:19Um >> you'd rather just outright punt with a dude if you're gonna >> Yeah, I' I'd rather punt. Yeah.
148:24>> Yeah, >> that's right. And he's I'm not going to play like him exclusively. It's just like, man, I was thinking if I'm going
148:29to do like a golf like to to be able to fit golf plus Ammonra plus Leaporta, like it's like, all right, well, do I
148:37bring one of these? Like, if I'm just going to >> take a cheap dude, like he would be him in the game, and you hope that that's
148:42how the way it would run out.
148:45>> I think, you know, it's a week we talked about where things that aren't normally that viable are viable. I I think he's
148:51definitely included in that. Um, all right, Rams and 49ers. This is the the last game here.
148:58Let's uh which side should we start with here? Let's maybe the 49er side. Get that out of the way.
149:05>> Yeah, sure. Uh do you want to start with them? We don't know. Did they announce?
149:08I think I assume it's going to be Mac.
149:09Jones.
149:10>> I'm assuming Jones.
149:12>> Yeah, the way I haven't seen like today's uh practices like if they because they said they were announce. I just the way Shanahan was talking about
149:20it yesterday, >> it made it the vibes were this is going to be Mac. Jones, right?
149:25>> The vibes are M. Jones. Yeah, >> we'll approach it from M. Jones and if we need to adjust, so be it. But
149:32>> yeah, the adjustment I think is that like pretty is better and he's better under pressure. And my >> we got to stop the quarterback
149:38controversy that's going around.
149:40>> It's dumb.
149:40>> It's dumb.
149:42Look, like look, M. Jones can be really good when you keep >> He's doing his job.
149:47>> Yeah, he's doing a good job. Brock Party's better.
149:50>> And that's not a negative to say M.
149:51Jones sucks either. It's just that he's doing his job. This is what he's supposed to be doing right now. And when
149:57the other guy comes back, he's gonna be have the job, >> right? Because he's the starting quarterback who's better than the
150:02backup.
150:02>> Yes.
150:05>> I don't know why like we keep like trying to make this something and it it's like not going to be.
150:09>> It's not. And and and like Jones was up against a a weak Giants defense that they ran all over. It was perfect,
150:18right? You've got you got like you're running the ball almost 60% of the time.
150:2457% of the time I think they ran the ball. And so then you have M. Jones doing his thing off of that and he's
150:32very effective against a weak defense that's got an okay pass rush but it's not like unstoppable.
150:38And now he gets the Rams pass defense that's third in passing DOA, second in EPA, third in quick pressure, fourth in
150:46pressure rate. I know he was good against them when they played the first time, but I don't love him in the
150:53rematch here. I'm worried about the Rams getting pressure and uh and to me it's like hey keep M. Jones clean you're
151:01good. If he's pressured he is not as good as Pury. This is the where I think the two of them really do separate where
151:08like Pertie will make plays. He can like do some cool stuff under pressure. Um and M. Jones is much more of an executor
151:16of the Shanahan offense from a clean pocket.
151:19>> Right. It's it's what Kyle Shannon's done with like every moderate pocket passer he's ever had. It's exactly like what you know
151:26>> Jimmy it's kind of Jimmyish >> right. Yeah. What happens I will say though I am confident not in playing M.
151:32Jones because I'm not going to play M.
151:33Jones but I am confident like these are the games that Kyle Shanahan gets up for and MC like these dudes love to try to
151:40beat each other and when these teams played earlier in the year like it was it was never more apparent. Uh remember
151:47we we were like talking about like man they should just rest CMC like they were coming to that game without Dwan
151:51Jennings they have Ricky Pieraw they have George KD was like what are they even coming to they're going to Sofi like like this is going to be terrible
151:59like just punt this week and Kyle Shannon is like oh man this is like I live for this like like why remember the
152:05first drive of the game they came out and like heavy at the goal line and then this like shifted to wide personnel and
152:10got Chris McAffrey at a linebacker and it's like this is like you knew immediately like you're like oh Kyle Shan's He's ready to like do Kyle Shane
152:18hand [ __ ] this game and that's what these guys at least bring the best. So in that game the Rams had their second
152:22lowest pressure rate in the season. They had one sack all night in that game.
152:26like this is so like I'm confident in just like this matchup bringing out the best of like these guys want to beat
152:32each other and dial stuff up and that makes me like this game more because typically you would see this divisional rematch
152:39a a good defense that the Rams clearly have and you'd be like a this is going to be like could be kind of a slo right
152:45and like maybe it doesn't >> honestly yeah I'm I'm viewing it kind of on the more on paper plus it's it's
152:50going to be on during the shipcast window and we've got not a great like we just turned the the chief's bills into a
152:56slog. So like this is no problem for us.
152:58>> Yeah. [laughter] But I'm just like this is these are where these coordinators like they want to outdo each other man.
153:04Like it's >> Yeah.
153:05>> I mean you look at the you know Kyle Shenan's history against the Rams. I mean six yards per play against these
153:11like he wants to Hey man, I'm the I'm the master. Like remember where you came from. Like you know [laughter] like I
153:18like >> I brought you into this world. I can take you out.
153:22>> Yeah man. Like I [laughter] love big vibes though, man. Like there is like you can't like you you can't tell me
153:28these like they get up for this. So >> for sure. No, that's a good point.
153:32>> Like so the four and they're going to have Joan Jennings this game. They're gonna have George KD in this game now.
153:37I'm pretty sure George KD is still not himself, but >> he's out there. The numbers back that up.
153:42>> He's out there doing stuff. Um yeah, like he's not getting open at all. Uh but >> he still impacts the run game. 49ers
153:50have shifted to a lot more like downhill like power inside zone since KD's come back too. Like they're running downhill instead of outside zone stuff which is
153:58what the old Shanahan staple. But it's just me having faith and like they're going to have some stuff, man. They're gonna have some stuff here.
154:04>> Yeah. All right. Well, so how are you are you are you I mean McAffrey like Yeah. I mean even I'm like I'm worried
154:11about Jones. I'm not worried about McAffrey. McAffrey is you know gonna get absolutely fed and we'll be just fine.
154:17>> Dude has 229 touches. It's crazy. I mean, he's been so bad as a runner and it just doesn't matter.
154:25>> No, he's taken advantage at least the last couple weeks against match ups he should have. This isn't one of those,
154:29but like at least we've seen him against like the Giants and Falcons. You're like, "All right, at least now like moving forward, we might That's cuz
154:35that's when you really play him in DFS is when you're like, "Oh, we could get the rushing plus the receiving."
154:41>> That's when you get real. That's when you can score 40. That's when he scores 30 plus fantasy points. Like those,
154:46>> right? um this week could be one of those where he doesn't actually where like he's just like in the low 20s.
154:51>> That's kind of what I assume, but also it's like a dangerous bet to makeough a couple touchdowns and like you know he's
154:59especially on this slate with no Jonathan Taylor. Uh like he's a he's a he's an outright tough fade for sure.
155:05>> But yeah, I mean we know he's gonna get the ball a ton. Um, so yeah, I mean, dude, last week they were up 10 with
155:13under two minutes to go and he was still running the ball.
155:16>> Kyle Shanahan cannot help cannot, dude.
155:20>> He's never once helped himself.
155:22>> And it's the same thing with with McVey and Puka. McVey can't help.
155:26>> No, these guys he's they're built the same. They're built the same.
155:30>> If a guy on a fourth and one end round >> Yeah. dumb play. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they like if McAffrey is available, he's
155:39going to play him as much as he can handle.
155:42>> The only thing that could save McAffrey is if he like stopped being good as a receiver. Like if he wasn't doing well,
155:48then it would end. But for as long as he's like the engine of the passing game, which he like clearly is. Got 25%
155:54target share as a running back, 2.11 yards per out run as a running back.
155:58This dude is still awesome as a receiver and is very important to the team. So, he's going to just get fed. He's gonna
156:03get fed.
156:04>> Pretty pretty simple as that.
156:07Jennings. Uh I Davis was talking him up as a as a really underpriced um DFS piece. Are you are you into him?
156:17>> Uh at his price. Yeah. Just for the the the salary and the opportunity he's been getting. I think the matchup presents
156:22some negative signals, but it might not matter because that, you know, they got Kendrick Bourne 140 yards. Like again like it's just me just me having fa like
156:30maybe I just got to throw out some of this stuff like right like [laughter] >> cuz he has like massive splits against
156:36man zone. It's why we kind of wanted to play him a little bit last week and they just didn't have to he got the touchdown
156:40but they just didn't have to throw >> maybe you can hear uh um yeah so I mean the the Rams don't play any man coverage
156:48or 14.8% man rate. Jennings at 36% target rate against man coverage 16% against zone. And maybe that's a Mac Jones thing or schmag thing. It's tough
156:56to say because it wasn't like that under Perty. It was very balanced last year with Pertie. So, it could just be noisy
157:02and still relatively small samply. And like I said, I'm willing to throw it out anyways because the last time these teams played like Kyle Shannon got
157:08Kendrick Bourne 140 yards. Like he's $4,500. Like he he he fits. It's a game that I I have faith in the
157:17offensive system. So, sure.
157:20>> Yeah.
157:23on the I mean well KD KD is is going to get played and the ceiling is theoretically very high because he is
157:32George KD he hasn't shown anything there's no numbers you can point to my literal analysis in the walkthrough was it's George KD man
157:41>> but that's it that's all we have to go on um he's showing up is is fairly chalky because he's only 4500
157:48I mean I'm not going to say it's it's a bad play it's Not a bad play. It's George KD. But I kind of think maybe
157:56it's it's a decent chalk piece to fade, you know, because because all you're kind of betting on is he's still not
158:01right in and the numbers like, you know, we talked about back up that idea.
158:06>> Yeah, he's second to last in tight end since he came back in uh the fantasy point separation score stuff.
158:12>> Just not really getting open. We also have kind of an ongoing history now with him and Christian McCaffrey playing.
158:19he's not as good for fantasy football.
158:22So, >> that small sample that this year is now goes back to previous year iterations of the offense. Um, it's tougher to like
158:31calibrate that though because like they had so many other guys like Brandon Iayuk and Debo Samuel. Like it's all kind of different this year. It's like a
158:37But, uh, just three games. You said he's 4,500. Like we would expect KD to have at least one KD type game, but I kind of
158:45don't want >> and not necessarily when you project it.
158:48>> But that's so that's my thing is like I want I want to play KD when he like no one is playing KD,
158:54>> right? Yeah.
158:55>> I don't want to play when everyone's playing him.
158:56>> I don't want to play chalk KD when I mean there's the thing with KD is like he is very unpredictable. He's not one
159:03of these guys you're like, "Oh, it's a KD spot." A KD spot is just that time he happened to go off.
159:08>> Yeah.
159:09>> When he goes off, he goes off. He because he's a because he's a great football player.
159:12>> He's a great football player. So yeah, I I I'm with you though. I don't love it's kind of Derk Henryish where it's like I
159:20I don't know. It's be whenever he happened to have that crazy ass run and then he had another crazy ass run, you
159:25know, two drives later and now he's, you know, a got to have it piece. But you want that at low ownership generally.
159:32>> Yeah, exactly. That's that's the way I feel about it. But like I said, 4,500 George K. I get why people are doing it,
159:38especially on the slate. I actually kind of am going back to McCaffrey now and thinking like because yeah I mean he had
159:45I mean in that game that they he had 30 touches when they played and 140 yards.
159:50He had 20 he had uh well he had 279 PPR in that game. So, like that's still tough to leave cuz I'm like, "All right,
159:58can we live if he gets like 22 to 25?"
160:00But that still might matter on the slate.
160:02>> And and you're like going I'm Yeah, >> it's just >> I like thinking it through and I'm not sure what the right answer is right now,
160:10but it's like it is one of those things where there's just not that many great plays. So if you take kind of the
160:17easiest safest play off of your lineup, then you're going to like even >> No, I mean yet another low confidence thing, you know,
160:25>> the next top five running backs and cost are like he's a thousand more than Gibbs and we kind of walk through that. Like
160:30there is some volatility still with Gibbs. He's 1,500 more than James Cook who might not catch a pass. And then >> Cook is a strong play though. I I do
160:39>> I do think Cook is a I do think Cook is a good play as well, but again might not pass. Han a Chan's quarterback might be
160:46throwing three interceptions.
160:47>> Then you have Derrick Henry, Kairen in this game and then Judkins. It's just not like >> it's just not a strong like you don't
160:53have a like you say that a lot of conviction in a lot of those other guys even though I do like Cook, I like Han,
160:59but from a conviction stance I'm like wow this dude's gonna get 30 touches like and catch eight passes.
161:05>> Yeah, the conviction is is fully there.
161:09>> So it's it is a real tough fade, I think. Yeah, it is. It is. Um, Rams
161:16side, uh, the 49ers, man, they are really banged up. Um, >> Fred Warner's out. Michael Williams is out now for the year.
161:27>> Bryce Huff might be coming back, which is pretty important. Um, >> they got Ken White and immediately he put on a 49ers uniform and had a
161:34hamstring injury.
161:36>> No.
161:38Yeah, I'm I'm starting to believe uh the conspiracy theory is that the electrical plant or whatever is stealing powers from these guys.
161:46>> Well, the other theory is that it's that Macaffrey is sort of sucking the life force out of every >> He's literally the Scarlet Witch.
161:54>> Yeah.
161:56>> Shung like just taking all the powers.
162:00>> Hey man, if long as you keep scoring 25 fantasy points. as someone who wrote Christopher Capri RB1 in the preseason
162:08on uh and felt terribly like terri like this could be be bad for your boy. Uh we're surviving. We're surviving.
162:20>> Yeah. So, you're for it? I'm I think I might be for it, too.
162:23>> We'll see how bad it gets. I'd like Pretty to be able to come back.
162:26>> That'd be nice.
162:27>> I do as well. But this defense is, like you kind of said, they're now 28th in EPA as a pass defense because they're
162:33second to last over the past five games.
162:36Um, Rams lead the league in success rate passing over the past month. Uh, and the 49ers had 6.1 yards per play over the
162:44past five games. That's 30 if they were at 4.6 prior, which was six. Like, they just lost all the guys. They just lost
162:50all their dudes.
162:52>> Yeah, Huff has been like a really important piece for them. He's limited limited with a hamstring. We'll see today. If he came back, that would give
163:00them a little bit more pass rush juice, which they could really use. They're 27th in pressure rate, 25th in quick pressure rate. Um they lost Bosa before
163:10the first game, but they had um Warner and I believe they had Huff and and Mike.
163:17>> Yeah, Huff had a sack a sack and Mike Williams uh was awesome in that game.
163:22the Mike Kell Williams splits and you he's a rookie but uh they're like Quinnon Williamsesque. So 49ers have faced 75 backfield runs this year
163:30without Mike Williams on the field. Uh 4.7 yards per carry allowed, 53% success rate compared to when he's on the field.
163:383.8 yards per carry and a 64% success rate against running back runs. So a pretty significant loss too for them in
163:45the interior.
163:48If you're right about kind of that, you know, this being misleading on paper and it's because of these two coaches, like
163:55they're just both going to be throwing everything they have and this is actually like a sneaky fun game.
164:00Isn't Kyron Williams kind of an awesome play then? Yeah, part partially for what I said, but also um when the games are
164:08competitive, he plays uh >> he has played 80% of the offensive snaps and 80% of has 80% of the backfield touches when the Rams trail. This
164:18happened in the first game that they played. Uh and then that when they're ahead and play like in the the positive
164:23game script is where you see Cororm come in and sprinkle in. But they don't trust Cororm when they need to make up points.
164:28So this is on the road. So, like I would I think you can make a pretty good case for him. You need the play out though if
164:36you're playing him. You need to I think if you're playing Kairen Williams, you're playing it with 49ers driving the game.
164:42>> You are.
164:44>> You are. I don't know that you're I mean, maybe >> so you wouldn't be playing with like the other pieces probably like you you could
164:51probably always play Puka, but like you aren't adding like you're not doing like a Stafford thing with him. It would >> he honestly correlates kind of well with
164:58McCaffrey.
164:59>> Yeah. Well, McCaffry is just like a unicorn dude that just >> like everyone correlates well with because >> Well, yeah, because he's like one of
165:07those running backs you can stack with the quarterback. Like it's like rules kind of just like he breaks.
165:11>> Oh, him and Pretty were an awesome stack like >> year or two ago.
165:15>> Um Yeah. So, Williams is kind of interesting. I hadn't thought too much about him and it's like a little fragile
165:21because you're betting on like a specific type of game like here.
165:26>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean the biggest issue has been Cororm just taking taking work and especially when they're when they're up
165:33a ton, you know, you have to worry about garbage time a little bit, >> but he's like the he's completely trustworthy. Like he's not Kyron
165:39Williams is never going to be due that's going to like turn in like a Saquon Barkley or he's ripping like 60 yard
165:42runs. But I mean, dude, high success Jacobs low rate. Yes, 100%.
165:49>> 49% success rate this year, which is running back four. So, he has been really good. And the other thing with
165:54with Williams is that there's sort of a difference between like burst and explosiveness. In my mind, I think of burst was more of like, you know, you
166:03you burst through the hole, you get that like 15 yard gain, maybe like 12 yard gain, whatever. And then there's like,
166:09>> are you ripping off 40 yard runs, right?
166:11You know, Jonathan Taylor has both, right? But you don't Kron Williams does not have both. Karen Williams is running back 35 in breakaway yards per game, but
166:21he's running back 13 in rush yards over expected. So you he's like he's kind of adding the consistency, but the consistency isn't it's not Zack
166:28Charbanet where he's got a 43% success rate, but he doesn't have any burst.
166:32It's you get you get you get kind of the first layer of you you hit the right hole, you're successful, and the second
166:39of hey, maybe you pick up seven yards here, eight yards here. Honestly, frankly, like Manungi last week, you know, apologies to Manungi for for I
166:47wasn't familiar with your game, but like uh dude dude was dude had a lot of burst. Not much explosiveness really, but a lot of burst. And so that's
166:55>> that's kind of with Kairen, I think. You know, you're >> you give him enough carries >> and he racks up yards and he gets in the
167:03end zone. But it's been trickier this year because Corm's been stealing enough work and you can't be giving up work if
167:10you have this type of profile. It really for you know for like RB1 upside um it really really hurts it but maybe in this
167:18game they have to lean on him a little bit more. So yeah he's kind of intriguing and then I mean what's there
167:24to say? Puka Nakua man as long as he's healthy and it seems like he's healthy he's going to crush >> just every week there's just no player
167:33like him. Um, you know, Ben Solak had posted a cool ass video uh how the Rams were using him like in motion as a
167:39fullback to set up that touchdown he had in that game last week. Just awesome stuff. Like, and there's just no player
167:45that can do that stuff because he's unique. Like, he he's so good in the run game. He's kind of like uh, you know,
167:51like a like one of these guys we talk about like KD and Craft, like these guys.
167:55>> They just impact the game on every level.
167:58>> Um, and he's just such a chess piece.
168:01Uh, you know, the only thing with him is that he's a little bit of a battering Graham. He's got that Anquin Balden gene
168:06where like you're too he's so physical that like he almost he takes on those bumps and bruises, but anytime he's on
168:12the field like you know exactly what you're getting targeted on 36% of his routes like he's only if I mean he'd be
168:18like completely dwarfing the field it wasn't for this just like incredible JSN season going on right now.
168:24>> Totally.
168:24>> Um yeah, >> Adams here I think is also interesting.
168:29Um, you know, he he has such a nice red zone role that while he's not puka, he's still he's still very valuable.
168:36>> Yeah. The whole plan is built out of him.
168:39>> Yeah. So, I'm into I'm into Adam somewhat here. I don't think uh what's he in DFS? I probably will.
168:46>> He's He's pricey and he's 75.
168:50>> Yeah. worried about that.
168:51>> He is very pricey just because he doesn't do a lot outside of the touchdowns, >> but >> like he's not dropping a lot of It's
168:59crazy scoring a lot of touchdowns is you're not getting a lot of like tournament worthy scores at that price for him.
169:04>> Yeah. But I'm like happily I'm treating him as a wide receiver one in in season long. Like what a touchdown equity dude
169:10dude has 16 end zone targets like >> it's nuts. It's absolutely wild. It's kind of genius like where you're like we're going to have a tendency that it's
169:21Puka all the time except when we get into the red zone now it's going to be Adams. So now you have to like focus
169:28your attention to Adams but that means like Puka can score more easily which is obviously awesome for the Rams. You know
169:35what I mean? Like I think it's kind of smart for them to signal like Adams is our red zone guy >> cuz
169:42if they want it >> McVey has been absolutely incredible this year. Like I talked about early in the season with the under center stuff
169:49like being ahead and like dude so the last three games the Rams uh cuz you know they lost two to Atwell Puka missed
169:55the game. They've completely flipped like their wide receiver rotation. They have used 13 personnel the last three games 16% 39% and 46% of their times.
170:05And here's the kicker. They're not doing this to run. They've used the past few games they've thrown the ball uh 27% of
170:12the time and 32% of the time out of 13 personnel.
170:15>> Wow.
170:15>> Like the these are they're making they're doing like kind of like how like Greg Olsen was going off about like the
170:20Seahawks and like but they're coaxing teams into playing heavy and like >> playing all these tight ends with Puka and Adams. It's like completely bonkers.
170:28It's like Mad Hatter type [ __ ] Terren Ferguson the past two games is averaging 24 air yards per target. Like
170:35>> Ferguson's yards per route run are kind of nuts. Like >> because he's averaging 24 yards per target. [laughter] >> He had 5.40 yards per hour run.
170:46>> Yeah, you're right. He had 18.3 ADOT and then 29 ADOT against the Jags in London.
170:51>> Yeah. And he 39% of his snaps have been played at wide receiver out wide and 19% in the slot. Like he's still there. He's
170:57a rotating like you're not going to chase this stuff. But I just think I just think it's really cool like >> you know for someone
171:03>> third tight end cuz he's >> Davis uh Davis Allen they're playing all of them like they're all playing all they're a fourman rotation.
171:10>> It's so wild >> dude. I'm telling you it is like what it's I find it fascinating like I'm not like you know I'm like a loose ball
171:16knower like but like it's like it's very it's very cool like to see because like you know >> my big my theory like the past two years
171:25has been like drafting a lot of players that have like are on the Mick Shanahan coaching tree because they understand how to like beat the current defense
171:33right like the way the defensive meta is and this isn't like tried and true it's like gospel but like you know these guys
171:38are consistently doing the things to make those defenses be put in hell. like if this is how you want to play like
171:43cool. Uh and like what he's doing is so awesome.
171:47>> The tricky part about that theory is you have to like figure out which guys belong in that tree and which don't you
171:52know >> like Brian Callahan.
171:55>> Yeah, Brian Callahan, you're out. Liam Cohen, I don't know. You were in.
172:01>> I'm not sure if you're in next year.
172:03>> Mike McDaniel.
172:05You know, >> this has been an amazing Shawn McVey season so far though >> to this point. And it's honestly been a
172:12pretty great Kyle Shannon season this point. Now, one of these dudes is going to blow a playoff game by not going for
172:17a fourth down they're supposed to go to go for, but they have absolutely been in their bag so far this year.
172:22>> It's been an incredible Kyle Shanahan season. Like, this is >> Yeah.
172:26>> I mean, people are saying M. Jones should be their starter. To me, that is a Kyle Shanahan stat. [laughter] >> Never been anything more.
172:37>> Yeah, that's incred. Congratulations to Kyle Shanahan.
172:41>> Every every team could have had Mac.
172:43Jones >> starter. Yeah.
172:44>> Six months ago, every team could have had Mac. Jones.
172:47>> It's It's crazy. Like I mean they It's not just that. Like the defense is completely banged up. I mean banged up
172:54is light. Like this defense has been ravaged by injuries. The receiving core has been ravaged by injuries.
172:59>> Lines and hurt.
173:00>> I don't know if Brandon Iuk's going to play a single game this year. Ricky Pearl has been out indefinitely. Party's
173:05been out indefinitely. Like this this is crazy. Like this this team in there are so many coaches where this
173:15team has like one win.
173:18>> Absolutely.
173:19>> That's the level of injuries that starting quarterback, the entire defense, the entire wide receiver core.
173:25Like this is devastating for most other coaches and they've been kind of chugging along.
173:31>> They're expected. They're expected. What is it? the Pythagorean really like they're they they should be four they should be four and four basically or
173:38like they're 4.7 4.3 like they should be like a 500 team.
173:43>> I mean but even that that just tells you that they've been winning close games but I think under most coaches those
173:49games aren't close. They're getting crushed >> probably like like Brian Callahan is not four and four with this team.
173:56>> Absolutely not.
173:57>> He's not four and four. Good luck. And that's said like, yeah, this game could already fail and be like a divisional
174:02rematch slog, but like I I like I'm tending like, hey, man, like these guys like >> they're ready, man. These these they've
174:10been this is like their mini like they're in seasons for these guys.
174:15>> Funnily enough, you that talks me into Kyron Williams is a is a more interesting play than I was initially thinking even though you mostly were
174:21were optimistic more optimistic than I was on the 49er side. Yeah, but uh he's another one of those guys like in that
174:27like there's going to be a guy in that uh six mid sixes to high five range that like is pivotal for this slate.
174:35>> There is.
174:36>> Um and it and it feels like the field is now getting to Judkins and Kairen's a very Judkins adjacent player.
174:43>> So >> yeah. And what do you save with Judkins?
174:48Judkins is >> the same price but 65 66. Wow. Yeah.
174:52>> A pivot off Judkins. massive chalk. If that's where we get to, >> if we if the field gets there. Yeah,
174:57>> I kind of think they will. I mean, the narrative stuff on the trades and the Jets sucking ass like everyone, you
175:03know, you don't have to.
175:04>> Hey, did you know the Jets suck? Like, oh, you did? Okay.
175:07>> Yeah.
175:08>> You know, I don't think you have to.
175:09>> And this game is just objectively better, too.
175:13>> Yeah, this game is better. I mean, the Browns game could be horrible.
175:17>> It could be horrible. It's Dylan Gabriel. We're talking about like it's Monday and you've slammed Quinchan Judkins. I was like, did you consider
175:26that the quarterback was so bad that Kevin Stfans had to give up play calling duties?
175:30>> Did you consider that game was going to be 10 to nine? [laughter] >> Cross your mind or you >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
175:38>> No. No. Yeah. I came away too. Yeah.
175:40That it could be more Kairen u or at least more fun. The outcome in the range of outcomes >> for sure. I like it.
175:48>> All right, I dig it.
175:49>> That'll do it. We're just under three.
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175:55But here we are. It's 2 minutes 55 seconds.
175:58Two hours 55 minutes. Um and now we just said 256. So, all right, let's get out here and uh remind people
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