NFL News, LeBron-Warriors Rumors, World Cup PK Madness, Taylor Swift's MSG Wedding, and Wayne Gretzky … Overrated?
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Jul 1, 2026
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Alec PierceChris JohnsonD.J. ReedJoe BurrowMyles GarrettRoger McCreary
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Alec Pierce
NegativeInjury30:40
Pierce underwent ankle surgery in March after signing a $30 million per year deal with the Colts. Pierce stated the recovery timeline is four to six months, which puts return in the late July to September range. The source notes this is particularly concerning because Pierce is a top-end speed and athleticism player, and ankle injuries can significantly impact his explosiveness and acceleration. The Colts attempted platelet-rich plasma treatment in January before the surgery, suggesting the injury has been lingering. Combined with pre-existing questions about his production—he has never had more than 47 catches in a season—his draft value will be significantly affected by this injury timeline and recovery uncertainty.
Insight pageChris Johnson
NegativeInjury18:00
Johnson, the former Titans running back with the most yards from scrimmage in a single season, was diagnosed with ALS at age 39 and is now 40 years old; he has four children and his mind remains sharp despite his body no longer cooperating.
Insight pageD.J. Reed
NegativeDepth Chart16:56
Reed was signed by the Lions in free agency as part of their cornerback depth chart, which is the weakest position group on the team as they compete in the highly competitive NFC North.
Insight pageJoe Burrow
NegativeProjection64:01
Joe Burrow is the subject of an upcoming hot quarterback ranking segment launching after the 4th of July, running twice weekly. The source notes that multiple lesbians have reached out expressing why they love Joe Burrow, indicating he is a notable quarterback in the upcoming fantasy rankings discussion.
Insight pageMyles Garrett
PositiveValue67:14
Miles Garrett is positioned as the second-best athlete ever traded in his prime, behind only Wayne Gretzky. The source covered the Miles Garrett trade a month after it happened and wondered if he was like the best athlete ever traded, establishing him as a top-tier trade comparison point in sports history.
Insight pageRoger McCreary
NegativeValue16:56
McCreary signed a minimum deal with the Lions worth $1 million per year, which the source says speaks to what the league thinks of him as a cornerback depth option.
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Episode Transcript
0:00Football Show. My name is Danny Heifetz today, I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck, and today we are going over
0:06a bunch of somewhat NFL news, and then also the NBA, and also the World Cup.
0:11LeBron James is a warrior! Whoa! Just kidding, we don't know that.
0:14No. But that could happen while we're on the pod.
0:17We're going to talk some football stuff, but I would earnestly say that if I could pick a day where the NFL
0:24is the least relevant of the 365 days in a year, I think it would probably be today, Tuesday, June 30th, when
0:30there's World Cup, Wimbledon, and NBA free agency, and LeBron James is picking a new team while everyone in the NFL is just posting thirst traps from vacations.
0:38What about the Travis Kelsey wedding? You've been checking those out?
0:41The upcoming nuptials. How many IG accounts have you been on?
0:44Who are you talking about specifically? Mine, my main.
0:47Sean McVay's, let me tell you something. Oh my.
0:49I actually do a Leepa's honeymoon because it overlapped with mine.
0:53I've been following that one very closely, but then Sean McVay's.
0:56I saw that. Sean McVay has like an eight pack.
0:59He does. He's kind of all ass. I just said that and you weren't listening, but I incepted you.
1:04No, I was talking over you at the time.
1:07That makes sense. I was talking about Taylor Swift's wedding.
1:09Aren't you excited about this? So, all right. You know what?
1:13Fuck it. Let's just do this first. Okay, Craig.
1:15Yeah. So there's been these leaks-ish that it's at Madison Square Garden.
1:19I think it's a decoy leak. Do you think that Taylor Swift...
1:22I think there's no way they're getting married at Madison Square Garden.
1:25They were like, oh, there's a permit and then some like players have...
1:29Chiefs players have hotel rooms near there. I don't think she's getting married at Madison Square Garden.
1:34I think it's a total head fake. I think she is getting married there.
1:38Really? Yeah, I think so. I think I'm convinced now.
1:41There was like a report that they're like building sets in there.
1:44I wouldn't be surprised if she sells this thing to a streamer and it's like a full-on production.
1:50This could be on Disney Plus in a month.
1:52So yeah, at this point, initially I thought the MSG thing was ridiculous and fake.
1:56And now I think it's real because the whole thing was like they wanted it to be private, right?
2:02Like if you're in Rhode Island, people... Drones can capture you on camera.
2:06There's like nowhere to hide. But if you do it in obviously like an arena, you can get away with it.
2:12When everybody's like, yeah, but that's going to be pretty ugly.
2:15I feel like... Taylor Swift will put $50 million into it and make it look like a princess palace or whatever the
2:21fuck she wants it to look like. Craig, isn't there a gray area between those two?
2:26Like there's a lot of buildings that you could keep drones out of.
2:29Well, I think the idea... I think the idea was like, it's not just that.
2:34It's like getting there, who's there, walking in. It would be very hard to coordinate all of that.
2:39But an arena is built to allow people to arrive privately.
2:42Right, right. There's also... I don't know why it's that big of a deal to see like who's at their wedding, but...
2:48Like why is it a big deal? Patrick Mahomes is photographed walking into a Rhode Island house.
2:53Because it's a royal wedding. This is the closest America will come to a royal wedding.
2:58Didn't people get to watch the royal wedding? Yes, it was on television.
3:02Of course they got to watch the royal wedding.
3:04So that's my point. I'm like, why is it a big deal then?
3:08Shouldn't we get to see it? Why does she not want people to see it if it's the royal wedding?
3:14Because it's up to her. It's her content. I don't know.
3:17Maybe she doesn't want to be a royal wedding, but people would care.
3:21You just called it the royal wedding. You're like, it's the royal wedding.
3:24I'm like, well, it's not because she doesn't want people to see it.
3:28I know. Come on. You know what I'm saying.
3:31I'm saying that's the level of interest, but she doesn't have to participate in it if she doesn't want to.
3:36But it's the closest people come to that level of interest.
3:39The difference is, I think, is if you do it outdoors somewhere.
3:43I can't believe we're talking about this. If you do it outdoors somewhere.
3:47How should I get on wires? I can't believe we don't have a wire.
3:51I'm sorry I brought it up, Ray. She can't control it.
3:54She can't own it. You know what I mean?
3:56But if she does it in an arena, she can own it and do what she wants with it.
4:02And that's why. Is Liz home? Can she come on and talk about this right now?
4:06No. She's not home. I like how Heifetz thinks this is like Operation Mincemeat.
4:10To invade some other place and have their wedding.
4:13Look, first of all, that's not crazy. It's all over.
4:16First of all, there are a lot of rumors that the permits they've had, that the invitations, there's a rumor that they're watermarked.
4:23So if anyone puts them on Instagram, that they'll know who it is.
4:26There's also a rumor that I don't think is true, but that Jack and I believe for a full day that all
4:33of the high premium tier calla lilies on the East Coast have been purchased by an unknown buyer.
4:38And we were. DK, DK, can we do an over-under?
4:41How much money do you think Taylor Swift has spent, and I guess Travis Kelsey, have spent on this wedding?
4:46Let's set the line at. The over-under? I'm going to set the line.
4:50You tell me over-under. Heifetz, help me here. What do you think is a reasonable number?
4:55$25 million? My thought was $25 million. Well, I was going to say $20 million.
4:59I thought I was going to be too high.
5:02If I learn something about weddings, you just double it, right?
5:05So $40 million? That's crazy. We were all so close.
5:08I think $40 million because it's like $20 seems reasonable.
5:10Here's the question. What do you pay for Madison Square Garden?
5:14Right now. Yeah, you got to buy out all the booze in the place.
5:18You know? It's like they could make so much money at a concert or something.
5:22Or does she know how much? Or maybe Disney's going to buy this for $10 million.
5:26She can cut the price. Well, you know, I do have a theory.
5:30Imagine trying to make money on your wedding. Fuck, that's actually crazy.
5:34We got to turn a profit on this thing.
5:36Dude, she's going to make money. That's crazy. When people go to a movie theater, if this is exclusively in movie theaters,
5:43how much money could they make for people to go watch the wedding?
5:46A billion dollars. Like it's Monday Night Football. A billion.
5:49You would counter-program the World Cup. And like you could just, I think you could make a billion dollars.
5:55You know why? What are you talking about? They could not make a billion dollars.
5:59Well, you don't know. In the 70s. How long until we've lost people?
6:03In this. Oh. We got to hurry up. In the 70s, the boxing matches would be watched in movie theaters, which I still think they should bring back.
6:11Like UFC fights, boxing. Well, not UFC, but they would have all these things.
6:15It was like the only way to watch is you have to go to a movie theater.
6:20Why aren't they doing it at the White House?
6:22They still got that. Shit's all up there still.
6:25So they can sell Trump coins. They didn't take it down yet.
6:28How else are you going to peddle crypto? But I.
6:31Sell Trump coins. The commemorative end. This is all the reflecting pool.
6:34This is why they're trying to repaint it. Well, I'll have you know the algae.
6:39That's because of domestic terrorists, DK. That's the only reason.
6:42Definitely not because they turned off the algae bubblers for the UFC.
6:45I'm happy to say I have not investigated that entire story.
6:48You haven't invested any of your brain power. It's kind of happening next to me and I try not to acknowledge it.
6:55Is it because of the algae bubblers that were removed for the photo op of the UFC weigh-ins on Friday night?
7:01Definitely not. Did you watch the UFC event? That got a huge rating number.
7:05Tons of people watched it. I was in Italy.
7:07He was on his honeymoon. You were watching the Knicks.
7:10Flipping over to UFC. He had no bandwidth left, Craig.
7:13I went halfway around the world. Anyway. Did you watch it?
7:16Hell no. My official prediction, by the way, with Swift is that it's in MSG.
7:20And I think there's a 20% chance that she sells it and people can watch this.
7:25So here is my last Taylor Swift thing. I will see what happens at the wedding.
7:30I mean, this is the biggest football story. Come on.
7:32The other. I know. It's a slow. It's the slow news day here.
7:36No offense to Ryan. July 4th is like the only time the NFL doesn't beat every other sport.
7:41I will say this. It was World Cup. The last thing I'll just say about Taylor Swift, though, because I'm sure I'm right about this one.
7:49She's obviously like probably the most intentional artist there's ever been about like numbers and leaving clues behind for people.
7:55She did 149 eras tours. She's going to sell the 150th and final version of the Eretour performance for a kajillion dollars to a streamer for something.
8:02I thought it was going to be the Super Bowl halftime show, but like she will.
8:07The 150th is being saved for something. She will do one more.
8:10For her wedding. It's going to be a concert.
8:13Yeah. She'll do something. Did she perform at her own wedding?
8:16That's the question I have for you before we move on.
8:19Do you think she sings at her own wedding?
8:22God, good question. I feel like historically you don't do that, but again, if this is a commercial product, I think anything's on the table.
8:29The Kelsey's are going to do a pregame pod or a pre-wedding, prenuptials pod.
8:33I'm not a singer, but I am a podcast host, and I did actually want to grab the mic at my own
8:39wedding, and I did say a few words at my own wedding, so I'm like, I don't know, maybe she'll want to sing.
8:46I just feel like you don't put your wedding inside of a fucking performance venue unless you plan to have a performance, but maybe I'm wrong.
8:53I don't know. We'll see. Okay. Let's get to some other NFL stuff, and then I want to hit.
8:59Other. I want to talk about LeBron, and then I want to talk about the World Cup, and then I want to
9:05talk about there's a few great emails. And just a reminder to all the members of The Seven, thank you to all
9:11seven women who listen to the show. Oh, hell.
9:14Starting next week, and also I lied to everyone, we're going to do one show this week, and then we will start
9:20going two shows a week after the 4th of July.
9:23But we're going to go two shows a week starting next week, and we're going to start unveiling the hotness rankings.
9:29So they're coming, and we're going to have the hottest quarterback countdown.
9:33You better be ready. So lock in for after the 4th of July.
9:36I should just say we're doing our research. We're collecting photos.
9:40We're building our own rankings. Craig has a whole database.
9:42I have an archive that I've built of what I believe are the hottest quarterbacks in the NFL and photos that flatter them.
9:49Okay. So a few pieces of news. Brandon Ayuk, the embattled 49ers receiver who keeps going on Instagram Live to talk about
9:55how much he hates the 49ers and wants to play specifically for Washington, says his ex-agent is the reason for the rift with the 49ers, DK.
10:03What a shocking revelation that this has nothing to do with Brandon Ayuk.
10:06Isn't that wild? Yeah. This kind of destroys your take that the agents actually like what he's doing online and with all
10:13these different videos and things that he's doing. It doesn't feel like it's a plan at this point.
10:18I think that ship has sailed. I don't think it ever felt like that.
10:22You don't think it's a very lucid, thought-out plan from Brandon Ayuk?
10:25Yeah. Now he's basically, he said- I think the agent was like, take the money out of the backpack, throw it on the ground.
10:32Totally. He's directing. And walk out of the closet.
10:35Yeah. It was a very clean closet. He's like Austin Powers behind the camera.
10:39No, no. Yes. Yes. $50 bills. $50 bills. $50 bills.
10:42I have to say. Not $100. It was very easy to pick them back up.
10:46There was nothing else in that closet. It was very easy to just pick them back up.
10:51Anyway. So he says, he said on this video that he fired his agent and then pro football talk, God bless him,
10:57looked it up and they, he actually hadn't fired him officially and they checked into it.
11:02And now he's fired though. I think that they had, he basically, Ayuk said, this guy's not Ryan Williams.
11:07His agent was not, has not been speaking for him since November.
11:11That kind of gives you the idea of how the relationship is going with the 49ers.
11:15I think that he's basically just ghosted them, but he hasn't talked to the 49ers in forever.
11:20This is his way of reaching out to them.
11:23The other thing I thought was interesting from the pro football talk coverage of the Ayuk saga this week, basically they said,
11:29and I think it's just Florio, Ayuk must petition because he's on the reserve left squad list.
11:34He has to actually petition the NFL to be reinstated before anything can happen.
11:38Yeah. Yes. I mean, I didn't know you could be put on a reserve left squad list during this season.
11:44Like this is, I don't know how many players this has happened to since we've been covering the NFL professionally.
11:49And now, and then he kind of went, Ayuk kind of went after the NFL PA on an Instagram post for, uh, I'm not really sure what.
11:57So this is, this is not going well. I think it's, we've, we've reached an inflection point where it's now quite a
12:04bit less likely he's ever going to play in the NFL.
12:07I feel like I, the, it is the Eric Andre shooting Hannibal Buress meme where he's just like, how could my agent do this?
12:14Right. Just as I Instagram live, fuck John Lynch every single day.
12:17I can't believe my agent ruined my relationship with this team.
12:20Yeah. I think I would call him nuts, except I'm actually just worried he's having a crisis of some kind.
12:26I don't know what's wrong with this man. We didn't even mention.
12:29I kind of don't think he's, he's like in crisis.
12:32I, I really kind of feel like he just thinks he's being a clever negotiator and he's not.
12:37Do you ever hear that story of Kurt Schilling?
12:40I think he was negotiating with the Red Sox and he, uh, was negotiating directly with the GM or something.
12:46I think it was Kurt Schilling. And, uh, he was going into his office and like, I'm calling my lawyer.
12:51And he would go for like an hour at a time.
12:55And then he told him 10 years later, they didn't have a lawyer who's reading how to negotiate for dummies.
13:00Like literally out of one of them yellow books.
13:03The art of the deal. Yeah. It's really the art of the deal, the fucking other room.
13:08But that's basically Brandon. I, you Claude is just telling him to.
13:11Claude law. Yeah. The Bob law. Uh, did we even mention on the last show that Brandon, I, you among other things
13:18in December, uh, Instagram lived himself going like a hundred miles an hour past the 49ers stadium on a highway.
13:23Yep. That was on game day, right? It was on game day.
13:27Yeah. Was it on game day? Wasn't it on during a game?
13:30I thought it was before the game. Yeah. I don't know.
13:33I don't know if you could get a hundred miles an hour in that highway during game day.
13:38Oh, he could. That's how fast he is. A lot of traffic.
13:42But I, well, it's funny because you had to head people.
13:45The news tried to hedge a little because it's like, well, maybe it was kilometers.
13:49I'm like, there's no fucking ways cars using kilometers.
13:52Kilometers. It's a, he was going 140. He imported a Volvo.
13:55Yeah. And then the police like issued a warrant for him.
13:58Cause they're like, that's, you know, more than double.
14:01Anyway, wild guy. Okay. Good luck with that, Brandon.
14:03Uh, all right. The other thing here, this is just what happens through the summer.
14:08Uh, less fun news. Lions have released cornerback to Ryan Arnold shortly after his bond was set at $1 million.
14:13So he was the first round pick for the lions in 2024.
14:17He's the one. Remember he walked out on the stage in Detroit.
14:20Like he was the Detroit pick at the end.
14:23It was actually like a really cool moment. He like walked out to the whole crowd.
14:28He was there. And then Ryan Arnold was arrested last week on felony charges of armed robbery and kidnapping.
14:33His bond was set at $1 million. And then the lions released him shortly afterward.
14:37So Arnold, he's not allowed to talk to the six code defendants.
14:41He must surrender his passport within 48 hours. Cause the prosecutor said he was a flight risk and he is confined to
14:47his residence in Tallahassee, Florida, except when he would be playing training and traveling with the lions or an NFL team, making court related appearances or legal appointments.
14:55Uh, I don't know if he's ever going to play in the NFL ever again.
14:59And there is a chance, a chance if he's convicted that he is faces life in prison.
15:04Uh, this is just a bizarre, crazy story. Yeah.
15:07I also saw a report today that said because he was released.
15:10Now the court is asking that he have a GPS monitor on him because basically they were like, you can go into work and that's it.
15:18Um, so yeah, this is not good, obviously. And I think, you know, like you said, if it's his career might be
15:24over, he's certainly not going to be claimed. He's going on waivers now.
15:28Um, and certainly not going to be claimed until the legal issue is kind of worked out or whatever.
15:33So this is, this is really brutal. I don't have anything like smart or wise to say.
15:38It's just like, he's 23 years old and it's one of the first times I feel like you're like, I'm 30, Craig, you're 31, right?
15:45I'm 31. Like, it's one of the first times where I'm like, wow, he's like a kid who did a very, very stupid thing.
15:52And you're like, your life just like goes poof.
15:55And I just, it's like wild to, I mean, he's making, I, I, I, I forget.
15:59Like, I think it's like the amount of, it was like a hundred thousand dollars in cash.
16:04I think $80,000 a jewel is $250,000 overall of stuff that was stolen.
16:08And it's like 15% of what he makes in a year.
16:11And I don't know what a, what a wild decision.
16:14So it's just crazy that I don't really have a smart pivot to like how this affects the Detroit lions, but I
16:20do want to talk about that for two seconds.
16:23Maybe that's a bad taste, but this is like quite a big deal for the lions because the NFC North is the
16:29most competitive division in the entire league. It's the, I mean, the lions bears, Packers, Vikings.
16:34I mean, good luck picking the order of how those teams are going to finish this year.
16:39The lions have the easiest schedule in the NFL.
16:41The lions should win the division, but cornerback is the weakest part of the team.
16:46They have, so Terrian Arnold was a first round pick that was cut.
16:49They also, that same year drafted Ennis Raikstra as a cornerback in the second round.
16:54He has played, he has missed the last 27 lions games.
16:57And it's Raikstra has with hamstring and shoulder issues.
16:59They signed DJ Reed and free agency is good.
17:02Rocky sin is another cornerback for them. He's 30 and has been on five teams in five years already over 30.
17:08That's why. Yeah, I know. It doesn't make you feel old.
17:11I remember his scouting report. I'm like he, but he's been on five teams in five years.
17:16Roger McGreary. And free agency got a minimum deal, which I think speaks to what the league thinks.
17:21They got a million dollars in a year. And last year.
17:24Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, quarterbacks, the weakest spot in the team, they have great safeties.
17:29And Brian branch, who's really, I guess a nickel guy and Kirby Joseph, but like you're playing, you're going against like Justin
17:35Jefferson and Ben Johnson and the bears. And I'm like, this is not a team that wants to lose cornerback depth.
17:41So I don't know. It's the, it's like this giant hole in the lions team.
17:46So few teams have good corner depth. It's kind of crazy.
17:49Cornerbacks and pass rushers, man. You can't run out.
17:51Okay. This is really somber, but I don't have anything smart to say about this either.
17:56But like, I mean, Chris Johnson, who the running back for the Titans, who has the most yards from scrimmage in a
18:02single season ever had this segment with good morning America for those didn't see it.
18:06He has ALS at 40 years old. He was diagnosed at 39.
18:10I believe he has four children and it's heartbreaking.
18:12I don't know. Did you guys watch it? Like really rattled me.
18:16It was the most rattling thing I've seen in a minute.
18:19Like football wise. I didn't actually watch the interview.
18:22It's just hearing about it is, is rattling stuff.
18:24Yeah. To be honest, everybody I spoke to who had watched it said it was so depressing.
18:29I didn't watch it. It sounded so horrible. I, I, I kind of, maybe that's cowardly of me, but I know I don't blame it.
18:36I mean, it's tough. It's like one of those, it's tough.
18:39It's, it's he's talking through one of those machines, you know, and they had his voice do it because he was able to record stuff before.
18:47But yeah, the one point I want to make about it just because they asked him, what is one thing you want
18:53people to know about your issue and your, your about ALS.
18:56And his point was his mind is exactly the same.
18:59And he says that people try to talk to him.
19:02Like his mind is diminished. And he's like, it's, it's your mind.
19:06And just your body no longer cooperates, but he's completely the same person in there.
19:10Like there's no mental diminishment whatsoever. And he just felt like a lot of people don't understand that.
19:15And he wanted people to know that. But anyway, yeah, it's just, it was very harrowing and needless to say, there is
19:21a connection between the NFL and ALS. You're never able to point to like one specific case and say that's because of that.
19:28But the NFL has acknowledged in settlements that like ALS is a connection to football.
19:32So it was just a horrible thing for him.
19:35I mean, it's crazy to have a guy who's on the cover of Madden, you know, four years old.
19:40It's really sad. Yeah. All right. No good segue from that.
19:43Brennan Soresby, the nuclear radioactive hot potato. The other off-season saga.
19:47Yeah. Rejected. Along with Brennan Ayuk. Really? Yeah. There are two people who decided that the NFLPA were shocking, not the people to blame for their situations.
19:54Brennan Soresby kicked out begrudgingly by the Big 12 and then rejected by the NFL.
19:59Was rejected by Canadian football this week? Why do they say that he can't play?
20:03Is it just gambling also? He just said they don't want to have to deal with that.
20:08It was against the integrity of their sport. Yeah.
20:10No one's in position to risk the integrity of the sport.
20:14Speaking of which, I mean, the NBA had another thing.
20:16I mean, Malik Beasley was indicted. Ed Davis, who was a basketball player, were indicted.
20:21This is, it's, no one's in a position to have people question whether their games are being fixed.
20:26So, you know, it's not helpful to, I mean, Brennan Soresby's not going to change the CFL for the positive.
20:32So, the only people that seems to want him is the owner of the Dallas Renegades and the UFL.
20:37Seem very enthusiastic about that. Kind of awesome. They're like, fuck it.
20:41You, come here. This guy's like Paul Crew without any of the cool lore.
20:45People are going to watch, though, you know, if he does play.
20:48Will they? He's not even good. I don't know.
20:51Draft hardcore people will watch it. I will say today, Schefter reported that the NFL and the NFLPA came to an agreement or whatever.
20:57I can't remember what the word they used was out of litigation, an agreement out of litigation and decided that he will
21:04now be eligible for the 2027 draft and he will not face any further punishment because of this gambling thing.
21:09And so, he is draft eligible for 2027. He's just going to work on his game this offseason, obviously get treatment for
21:16the gambling addiction problem that he's admitted to and openly talked about.
21:19So, yeah. That is the kind of conclusion of the battle between him and the NFLPA because his lawyer said they were going to sue the NFLPA.
21:27And it went against the collective bargaining agreement and all this stuff.
21:30So, it's just not. So, they settled. Probably not the wise decision to sue the company you want to work for next year.
21:37Also, just like Joe Pesci leaves his house with a baseball bat and suddenly he's like, I'm going to drop all these lawsuits.
21:44You know what I mean? It's the. But no, I.
21:46For a thousand reasons. I look at the end of the day, I think everyone understands when you literally.
21:52The fact that he's been against his own goddamn team and using other people to make his bets.
21:57It's like you have relinquished the right to play professional sports, like period.
22:01And then, yeah. I mean, again, this will just be a thing.
22:04I really do now think of it like, especially with this NBA thing and Malik Beasley, it's every season for every league
22:11is now just a giant parlay that 100% of players are not throwing anything.
22:15I know. It's like crossing your fingers every league, every single day.
22:18It's like, no, no gambling, no gambling. The Malik Beasley indictment as well is just, you guys ever watch The Wire?
22:24There's an incredible line from Stringer Bell where he's like, are you taking notes?
22:28On a criminal fucking conspiracy? And he takes the thing and rips it up.
22:32And I'm like, reading all these texts from Malik Beasley.
22:35Malik, Ed Davis texted who is bizarre. It's another NBA player who owed another NBA player money and they're forcing each other to like manipulate rebounds over unders.
22:43And he literally said, only way you can beat Vegas is sports betting.
22:47We can make some good money. Just texted that.
22:49There are some clips out there of Malik Beasley doing some things on the court that look very suspicious.
22:55I was watching that, Craig. He's like, he's face guarding a guy away from the ball instead of blocking out.
23:01There's one where like the spread was eight and a half and they were like down nine and there's like four seconds left.
23:07And he like sprints end to end to get a layup in so that they cover.
23:12It's bad. But yeah. Him like flying for rebounds.
23:14Yeah. It's it's. Yeah. All right. The Buffalo Bills are not honoring OJ Simpson in their new stadium.
23:19We've made an organized quote from the team president of business operations.
23:23We've made an organizational decision that OJ Simpson is not a fit to display inside our new stadium and family circle.
23:29End quote. DK, why do you think that is?
23:31Well, uh, yeah, I don't know. I debated zagging here, but I decided.
23:35I was like, why is it? He was, he was found not guilty.
23:39He was not. Yeah. What are you saying? Quarter loss?
23:42Not good. Because he wrote the book. If I did it, that they're not.
23:46Which, which I, I still maintain that if I pitched that idea in like a TV show, they'd be like, that's ridiculous.
23:52No one would ever do that. It sounds like an arrested development.
23:56He can't be that much of like an arrogant ass.
23:58It does sound like an arrested development. But yeah, I'm like, why?
24:02He was found not guilty. Why shouldn't you honor him as a player only?
24:06But I decided not to go with that take.
24:09Okay. I like how you did that. You presented the take, but you didn't actually give the take.
24:14I also, I don't, I don't, I don't believe they should have done that.
24:18Right. Anyone can take the reservation. Also importantly, Bill's stadium.
24:21It's the mark of an educated man to be able to consider an idea without believing it.
24:25That's true. Just, yeah. Cannibalism. Just asking questions here.
24:28Also importantly, since we've been very wrong on this several times on the show, Bill's stadium, not a dome.
24:33I got this right. And you two kept getting it wrong so much that then I also believed it was a dome.
24:40I don't know about that. And then we all three of us repeated it was a dome for months and months.
24:46I am going to be honest. I went along with it because I didn't know that it wasn't a dome.
24:52I still don't know. It's not a dome. It's not.
24:54It's canopied over the seats. You told me it was a dome and so I believed you.
24:59It's not. One of us said it confidently one time, but not me because I was shocked.
25:04You guys told me it and I was surprised because I didn't know.
25:08I remember feeling like I didn't know that. Makes you wonder how many things in life you've been told one time and
25:14then you just like take that as gospel and go with it for the rest of my life.
25:19Sure. Great reminder, DK. Email us in your blind spots.
25:22RingerFantasyFootball at gmail.com. Heifetz, didn't you have like a really good one of those where it was like someone told you this
25:29a really long time ago and then you figured this out in grade school or something that you'd been.
25:34Wait. Yeah. There's a bunch. Oh, yeah. You've been using.
25:37I remember that. Run a train the wrong way.
25:39Oh, yeah. That was bad. I just thought ran train meant get run over by a train because it's like bad and the context clues don't always.
25:47Sure. I always pictured like, you know, in like those cartoons, like, you know, a guy would tie a woman to a train tracks and then you die.
25:55And I'm like, oh, yeah, that would be bad.
25:58So I told him. I think I told a professor once asked me how the test went.
26:03I was like, test ran train on me. And the professor is like, you're being a little.
26:08That's a little too familiar. I would say that like kids probably still might say that.
26:12Like, that's not that. That's kind of like a funny way to say, like, that was a super hard test.
26:18But you're not technically wrong by saying that. No.
26:20Contextually, you're still kind of right. You're still kind of right.
26:24That's the problem. So many questions I got wrong.
26:26Like, oh, that fucking test ran a train on me.
26:29Like, that's actually totally fine. Well, sure. That test fucked me.
26:32But don't say it to the teacher. I got fucked by the test.
26:36The best. My favorite version ever of this was the guy who was thrown to the wolves and had like the junior
26:42level employee at a hospital who had to tell.
26:45Remember this? The entire conference. Not conference room. Like an auditorium of the local.
26:49Not just one hospital, but all the local hospital workers that they were getting a pension cut or a payment cutters or
26:55a freeze and like telling like a thousand hospital workers that they're getting.
26:59And there was like a revolt. And the CEO came up and was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
27:04Why doesn't everyone just take a 30,000 foot view here?
27:07And then the guy, the 23-year-old who was speaking, everyone walked over to the window and was like, you're right, sir.
27:13That is a great view. And then turned around and everyone was staring at him.
27:17That just fills me with pain. Have I told you guys that my dad, I think it was like the first time,
27:24it was when he was like in his 20s.
27:26The first time he found out like in and out at a secret menu.
27:30I don't think he knew and his friends like convinced him or he might've even just got it confused himself where he
27:37thought animal style in and out, which is like the secret way to get your burger done with like a special sauce and they grill it differently.
27:44He thought animal style was called doggy style. Oh no.
27:47And so he went up and ordered a cheeseburger doggy style to like probably some like 18 year old kid.
27:53That's incredible. That's great. I fucked with, I mean, I didn't get it in a weird way.
27:58Yeah. They ran a train on the burger. Literally special sauce.
28:01All right. Oh, keep going. Keep going, Craig. No, that's enough.
28:04I convinced my friend, shout out to my friend JB.
28:07We once convinced them that Warren Buffett was worth so much money because he got like a percentage of every buffet sale
28:13in the world and he didn't learn that that was wrong until like a business lecture in college.
28:18That's the one I was thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
28:21That was bad. Okay. Last thing of it. Well, a couple of NFL things.
28:25Anyway, not a dome. Not a dome for the bills.
28:28It's not a dome. Well, I don't know. Actually, I'm retractable.
28:31I read right here. It's not a dome. It's not a dome.
28:34Retractable canopy. Let me just get this right for once in my life.
28:38We should actually look this up. What do you think?
28:41It's a. It's going to be. Open air. Some people are mad that it's not a dome because we're like, well, the football.
28:48That feels like a legal loophole. It feels like a loophole.
28:51No, no. They have a window. Technically has like air blowing through it.
28:55Kai watching the TCU lose 63 to nothing to Georgia while getting rained on at an indoor stadium is like the funniest thing.
29:01Getting rained on sideways. He's like sitting by the hole in an indoor stadium with a rain.
29:06And his team got like absolutely blown out. Worst college football player possible.
29:10Georgia actually ran a train on TV. That was that was an appropriate use of the term.
29:15But some people in Buffalo are mad. So there's like it's going to be heated field and seat stuff.
29:20They can melt snow easier. You know, they have to have fans come and like help them shovel.
29:25Some people are mad, though, because the governor in New York is like from the Buffalo area.
29:30So they got a lot of taxpayer money for it.
29:33And a lot of people are actually mad. It's not a dome because it's Buffalo and you can't have a concert in January if there's snow.
29:40So some people actually wish that since taxpayers paid for it, that it was a dome so you could use it, you
29:47know, more than like five or six months a year.
29:50But it's a fair point. It will. I will say it says it will feature an open air design with a massive
29:56steel canopy that covers roughly 60 to 65 percent of the seats, which is kind of similar to like Lumenfield and Seattle,
30:02where the vast majority kind of the edges are covered, but the field itself is exposed.
30:07Right. They're trying to definitely like have their cake and eat it, too, where it's like, no, no, there's still snow.
30:13It's still Buffalo. But then it's also modern and they can melt the snow and you can do a little bit more with it.
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30:35Last thing here. This is not like that timely, but we just somehow haven't talked about it yet.
30:40So Alec Pierce, the receiver for the Colts, who got a huge deal in free agency for like almost 30 million dollars a year.
30:47It's the first free agents assigned kind of like a gentleman's overpay.
30:50He had an ankle surgery and now it's like not really clear when he's returning.
30:55And it sounds like it's been an issue for a while.
30:58He was going to have to get it done at some point.
31:01He was playing through it. It was going to be this offseason or next offseason and the Colts knew about it.
31:07But I don't think anyone or at least the Colts didn't quite know that how bad it was.
31:13And I guess Alec Pierce tried platen enrichment plasma in January to fix it.
31:17And I feel like a little bit that there was an impression that the Colts thought that that had worked and it didn't.
31:23And so he got surgery like after he signed this 30 million dollar a year deal, which you don't hear about a lot.
31:30Don't love to see that. Especially when it's the team that signed him that he came from, because those teams always have
31:36the most medical information because he's been there his whole career.
31:39So this was surprising because they gave him 30 million a year, shipped Michael Pittman to Pittsburgh.
31:44And then suddenly it's like Alec Pierce may or may not be ready for week one, which is just a surprising thing
31:50for someone who just got a giant contract. Yeah.
31:53He had surgery in March after he signed the deal.
31:56And Pierce said himself that the recovery is four to six months, which puts it like in the six months is like
32:02an ACL late July to September range, which is pretty easy.
32:05I mean, it's not great. Will significantly affect the way that he is.
32:09He is viewed from a fantasy perspective. Certainly. Especially because he's a top end speed guy.
32:14Not that there's anybody that's immune from ankle injuries, but like he is a athleticism speed acceleration player.
32:19So I mean, he's already going to go for a discount or like, I guess I don't even know if it is
32:25a discount because I think people vary widely on like what they think of Alec Pierce and if they think he deserved
32:31that money and should be like a de facto number one in an offense.
32:35But it's never had more than 47 catches in the season.
32:39Last football item here. I want to just note that so obviously the World Cup is in America.
32:44They're playing all over and that for the Japan versus Sweden game.
32:47Did you watch that amazing day of soccer amazing tournament so far, but that Jerry World did in fact use curtains to
32:54block the sun for Japan versus Sweden. Wanted to know that Jerry World is Dallas Stadium.
32:58Heifetz. Oh, yeah, you can. Dallas. You're right. Stadium.
33:01It is. Yeah. No, it's not AT&T Stadium at all.
33:04How dare you? Yeah, I love that. Have you been watching the games?
33:07There's been some incredible games in the world round already.
33:10The World Cup. I thought what day is today?
33:13Tuesday. Monday was one of the best days of soccer I've ever watched.
33:16I'm not going to pretend to be the biggest soccer fan in the world, but I obviously love the World Cup.
33:22Right. That was crazy. They Brazil scoring in the 96th minute and then you two games go to penalty kicks.
33:28That was crazy. It was the world. The knockout round has been unbelievable.
33:32What do you what's your take on the penalty kick way of finishing games?
33:36Like overall, do you like like do you think it's a good way to end World Cup games?
33:41Number one. And I guess number two is in my second question would just be like, is it awesome?
33:47And I think the answer is yes, but also maybe that's not how they should these games should end.
33:52It's so cool as a parachuting in as a fan.
33:55It's so cool to watch them do it. It is.
33:58Yeah. Divorced from the game. It's not the same game.
34:01I there. It's not the same thing. It's the Roger Bennett at Men in Blazers was like, it's like doing synchronized swimming for two hours.
34:08And then you have like just a race. And it's like just going from a team sport where unison is everything to here's an intensely individual thing.
34:16And your entire country is counting on you, son.
34:18But I will say that the drama, the theater of it, it's like it's again, Roger Bennett, he called it Russian roulette for sports.
34:25That's exactly what you see a person like unwind.
34:28It's unbelievable to me. It would be like if after, if at the end of an NBA game, if the teams were
34:34tied, they just took like their five best three point shooters and then just had to do like a three point competition.
34:40Yes. It feels stupid when you consider it that way.
34:43However, it's a, it's fucking electric in the world.
34:46It's crazy. It's also great for television. The camera that can just sit right behind the guy.
34:51You feel like you're playing fucking FIFA. It's exactly like that.
34:54It's so, it's the view changing from side to behind them.
34:57It makes the drama so much higher. The first penalty kick.
35:00So Morocco Netherlands went to PKs. And then before that Paraguay, Germany did.
35:04And the Paraguay goalkeeper doing the clapping. Yeah. And it was like so quiet.
35:08Intimidation factor. I don't know if they had good money.
35:11There's a guy jumping back and forth. I forget which goalie it was.
35:14Like it's great intimidation factor. It's all mental. It's really, really cool.
35:18I like that. I like that. It's kind of dumb in that like the, the goalie, I mean, is this, is trying
35:24to read the guy kicking, but he's also like kind of guessing.
35:28He's definitely, yeah. And like, I just think there's something inherently funny about like the pinnacle of a sport just comes down
35:34to flipping a coin and be like, I'm going to jump this way.
35:38It's crazy. And then it's so crazy to me.
35:40And sometimes they jump the right way and they still don't get it.
35:44Yeah. It's well that, oh, that goalie that knocked the ball in after he had stopped, it was heartbreaking.
35:49But I, the thing about the PKs it's up, you know, we've joked before that don't tell the boomers this, but LeBron
35:56can't be the goat because if he was at the free throw line with the, the, the world on the line, we'd actually be pretty puckered and Jordan.
36:04I have no doubt. But the new version of why can't NBA players hit free throws is when the guys miss the
36:10goal, I'm just like, I'll never get over it.
36:13Like, like when, when they put it side, like high or they put it left or right of the net and they miss it.
36:20I don't know which is worse. It's like the ultimate ick is like what that, that German guy did where he sailed it like 30 yards too high.
36:28It always blows my mind. Shaked it. My ick is when the guys do the stutter step penalty kick where they like go slow.
36:34And then like at the very last minute, they basically try and get the goalie to dive one way and then they can just like tap it in.
36:42So I think that's so stupid. They shouldn't allow you to do that shit.
36:46Just get up there and kick it. What's the rule there?
36:50Like, can you, you can't fully fake kick. Can you?
36:52I don't think I've ever been more out of my depth than trying to explain anything rules in soccer, but I do believe the rules.
37:00No, you have to keep forward momentum, right? Yes.
37:02Even if it's that like. Fully swing and miss on purpose.
37:05The guy dives and you kick it in. You can't do that.
37:09Yeah. Even if it's like a millimeter an hour, you have to keep moving forward.
37:13You can do your weird crab walk side, right to left and back.
37:17It's a little bit like a pitcher's motion, like the windup where it's everything kind of has to be smooth.
37:23There's some gray area with like pausing, you know, there's certain guys like.
37:26Yeah. I think everyone from morons like us to Thierry Henry and Zlatan on the desk have been saying everyone's kind of
37:33like disgusted with the slow roll kicks. And when you miss them, you kind of get what you deserve.
37:38Like every time you sail one wide. And I've been thinking a lot about this Rafa doc that I was watching about
37:44Rafael Nadal on Netflix, where he said something amazing about how he won the serve.
37:49He hit to Roger Federer to win Wimbledon the first time.
37:52It's like the fifth set, tiebreaker, whatever. And he said on his first serve, he hit a second serve, which is like,
37:58if you don't play tennis, like much slower. Like he hit, it probably was going 70%.
38:03It's like throwing a change up instead of a fastball.
38:06Because you want to make it into the square.
38:08It's just like the sixth. That's what I thought.
38:11But no, he said, because it's a high pressure moment.
38:14And I wanted Roger to have to think about it.
38:17Because sometimes when you really have to perform in a big moment, it's actually easier to not think than it is to think.
38:23And I wanted him to have to think. And it's exactly what happens.
38:27He mishits it. And I thought that was such an interesting insight that Nadal was like, I want Roger to actually have a second.
38:34Oh, no, sorry. It wasn't that. I'm wrong. Sorry.
38:36It was, he had hit 99% of his serves to Roger Federer's backhand.
38:40Then he hit his second serve to his forehand because he wanted Federer to not react.
38:45He wanted him to consciously be like, oh my God, it's the first forehand he gave me all match.
38:50He wanted him to notice it. And I think about that when these guys take the PKs, where you're doing this slow
38:56roll and you are now like thinking about something that you haven't thought about your entire life.
39:01You're just like, it's this like automatic system that you're now like trying to remember how to do it.
39:07And I don't, it's crazy that even though you're a defender, you can't just hit a ball into the net.
39:12The weird thing about it is like, in terms of how hard it is to play soccer normally, like, do you think
39:19the PK itself is that difficult or it's more of kind of a coin flip type proposition?
39:24No, I think it's the pressure. I think it's the pressure of your entire country.
39:28It's like a billion people watching this game. But the actual act itself is extremely easy.
39:33No? I think it's something they've done a million times.
39:35I think it's practice. It's, it's so interesting. It is like shooting free throws or something, but not really.
39:41But it's, it's, it's interesting to me that it is something that is actually quite simple and easy, but it's just, my God, don't fuck it up.
39:49So one of the, I think actually one of the books behind me, there's this book called Daniel Kahneman, Thinking Fast and Slow.
39:55And he's a psychologist who studies these things. And he was, the difference between choking and panicking.
40:00Panicking is when there's something that you're supposed to think about that you don't think about and you just kind of freak out.
40:07Choking is when you start thinking about something that's automatic.
40:10Choking is when you, a second baseman or a pitcher can't throw to first base.
40:14Like that's pan, that's choking. And I think what it is, and I think the, even Lionel Messi is not a great penalty taker.
40:21And I do think it's the mental aspect of, it's not practice as much as you think.
40:26It's kind of an unnatural act, but it is like, I don't, I think the, especially in the World Cup knockout round,
40:32like the, it's hard to overstate how important this is to everyone in your entire country.
40:37And frankly, your entire life has been leading to this.
40:39And if you win, it's like the biggest moment ever.
40:42And I, I, I, you're not able to simulate that pressure.
40:45Like it's just, you start freaking out. It is cool to see, you know, the way that I think you have to kick it kind of hard.
40:53Like, especially even if the guys, even if the guy's guessing, you still have to kick it pretty hard.
40:59Just rip it. Yeah. But it is cool to see how it's, it's, you can see it's palpable, a combination of elation
41:05and relief that they make it when they, when they get it in the goal, you can almost just see like, thank Christ.
41:12They didn't fuck that up. Oh my God. I feel so much pressure on them.
41:16And by the way, speaking of that, there's, I'm going to say this and I'm going to give a caveat because I
41:22don't like fall soccer, international soccer close enough, but it does feel like there's a, at least somewhat reputable, uh, German outlet
41:28saying that some of the German players refused to do the sixth kick because it went past the, the initial five.
41:35So they had to get like six through 10 to keep going up.
41:38There was like sudden death at that point. And apparently this guy, uh, whose name I did not write down.
41:44Hold on. I wouldn't even say the name since I haven't confirmed it, but basically one, one veteran player on Germany, apparently
41:50like balked at the idea of taking it. And then this other guy for, for several of them.
41:55And it wasn't like, no, it was who wants to do it.
41:59And they looked at the four players that should have done it.
42:02And they all kind of like, and they were like, don't pick me.
42:06Nobody wants to put their hand up. And someone was like, fuck it.
42:10I'll do it. And that's the guy who sailed it.
42:13Yeah. He had never taken a penalty at the professional level before.
42:16And he's doing it in the world cup because apparently, and look, I, again, I, maybe this isn't actually what happened, but
42:22apparently these other guys were kind of like, I don't want to be the one to do it.
42:28Uh, which is crazy to me that that's even happening at this level.
42:31It is. It is really one of the most electric ways you can end a game because soccer is so it's a
42:38sport where it's obviously so hard to score that there's kind of like, I don't know what else you would do.
42:44Like, well, I, so I didn't know about this and I, I want to shout out again, men in blazers is just like a great soccer podcast.
42:51And I, they were talking about this cause I was fat.
42:55I really was fascinated. And also today was amazing too with, um, Holland France was amazing today, but they were talking about,
43:01so apparently of all things MLS and this before that the North American soccer league invented a better penalty kick, which is
43:07from 35 yards out instead of 12 or whatever that you just get the ball and you get five seconds to go score on the goalie.
43:15It's like you have to run up and the goalie can run at you or treat it however they want and you get five seconds to shoot.
43:22And so it simulates like a real actual soccer, like a fast break.
43:26Yeah. Like a fast break because the five seconds is like you would get caught and it's, and all the players liked it way more.
43:33And then FIFA came down and didn't like that.
43:36It wasn't uniform, but, but it's actually seems to represent like a soccer scenario way better.
43:40I had never heard of this, but it's like, there's like all these videos on Instagram and YouTube of throwbacks.
43:46And it does seem like way more representative. That makes more sense to me to continue an NBA analogy rather than them just shooting threes.
43:53It would be like, all right, I guess you're going to play like one-on-one.
43:57It's like hockey. It's like hockey is the closest thing.
44:00It's the way they do a shootout. At least it's like a hockey scenario of like a fast break, which is not
44:07a hockey penalty kicks or penalty shots or whatever are so cool too, because they'll have all these awesome moves that they
44:13do right before shooting it into the goal. And it's about puck handling and the talent and dexterity that you have that way.
44:19It's, it's much more just like, then I'm going to blast this into the right side of the goal.
44:25I know it's kind of silly. I do feel bad though.
44:28Whenever we hit, whenever they miss, I feel like, you know, the mother in the stands, all I think about is how
44:34you're never going to live this down. Dude. Yeah.
44:37It's like the lambs. So I'm strong at the end of dodgeball.
44:40Like good luck. I'm sure this won't haunt you for the rest of your life.
44:45Where are you guys, where are you guys trying to put it?
44:48If you step up there on a world cup stage, so I'm just going to, you get dropped in.
44:54If I don't know the goalie can't figure it out.
44:56So I'm just going to hit it as hard as it can.
45:00Just blood sports style. Close your eyes. Does anybody ever just go straight?
45:04Yeah. So my favorite PK ever. So the Italian goalie whose name was a buffon, he would take PKs, which I don't
45:10know how many goalies take PKs, but he would, and he would just like jog up and flick it in slow-mo, like a knuckleball straight at the goalie.
45:18And the goalie would just dive out of the way and he hit it right at them.
45:23Yeah. Which I thought was the sickest thing ever.
45:25I would probably try to rip it to a corner top upper left or upper right corner.
45:30See, I'm keeping that on the ground. I don't trust myself to put it up and not put it high.
45:36I'm just kidding. When a goalie dies, they're low.
45:39You know what I mean? Like if you can hit that upper corner, I'm going right.
45:43Top right. Top right. What's the shallow male strikeout?
45:46Shallow. You chased it. Of course you chased it.
45:48You're drowning. You're drowning. You chased it. Of course you did.
45:52Oh my God. Okay. I went out since the day you were born.
45:55Have you guys been watching the World Cup? It's been cool tournament because the best players have been the best players.
46:01Oh my God, dude. I just got done watching the Sweden France game and Mbappe is, I mean, as, as, as, as,
46:08as a soccer idiot, he's clearly so head and shoulders above everyone else.
46:11He's insane. As a soccer idiot. I thought France for Sweden was breathtaking.
46:15I, I don't know the sport. I barely understand it.
46:18I feel like Ted Lasso asking what offsides is, but watching France, like just dice them up and how easy he makes
46:24everything look like that's what I love about Messi.
46:27Well, their passing is incredible. I think that's the thing about the world cup that I noticed the most is, um, just
46:33how crisp and excellent passers they are. And the, the ball handling, uh, but Mbappe is just explosive man.
46:39It's like watching, I don't know, Jameer Gibbs or something.
46:41He's just like, it moves at a different speed than everybody else.
46:45Have you enjoyed how America has foisted commercial breaks upon the entire world?
46:49Is it our fault? Is it America's fault? I love they were like how hot it will be.
46:54And they're like, I got an idea. I mean, it's probably our fault, but, uh, I, I actually, my milquetoast take on
47:00the, whatever they're called, the hydration breaks. For safety.
47:03They're fine. I don't really. I love it. I, I, yeah, my, my, not a soccer fan, soccer fan take is I love the commercials.
47:10I get to look at my phone in the middle of the game.
47:14We force them to do quarters. I mean, if the game, let's say that that U.S.
47:18game does happen on the 4th of July on Saturday.
47:21It'll be 98 degrees in Thunder. In Philadelphia. So like maybe they do need a hydration break.
47:26It's a hot wave. Well, you know what the irony is?
47:29Everyone's like, how is all the, how are all these teams going to adjust to the heat in America?
47:35And then ironically, Europe had like the biggest heat wave, like the hottest heat wave on record.
47:39Yeah, it's going to be like a hundred in New York, isn't it?
47:43Good Lord. Oh, DC's getting full. Yeah. DC is going to be a hundred all week.
47:48It was 90 today. Switched the game to Buffalo.
47:50Yeah, exactly. The stadium's not done. The other thing that has been fun about the World Cup is the, and there's a
47:57lot of it that's fake and probably psyops or whatever, but it seems like the international fans that have come to the U.S.
48:03have pretty much enjoyed American culture and American fans.
48:06Pilgrimages to Buckees? Somewhat not complete assholes to all the international fans.
48:09Well, it's like, are they laughing at us or with us?
48:12I don't know. Well, I think the influencers were laughing with us.
48:16Is it like patting us on the head like, good job?
48:19I'll take it. I'll take it. Influencers that were paid to pretend that it was organic were laughing with us for money.
48:25And then they actually did convince a lot of people to go to Waffle House and Buckees and they're laughing at us or love it.
48:33Have you guys been to Buckees? No. Buckees is the craziest place.
48:36Buckees really is the place. What is the Buckees?
48:39I've never heard of that. Buckees is the most Texan place.
48:42So Buckees is a Texas-based gas station. Oh, is that with a really long, huge line of gas?
48:47Yeah, it's Buckees will have literally like 40 to 50 pounds.
48:50And it's closer to like a really, really small Walmart than it is to like a big gas station.
48:55Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen these. It is crazy.
48:58And they're like a phenomenon. And they've expanded outside Texas.
49:01And people like, the most Texas brands are like Whataburger and Buckees.
49:05And it really is a truly like American creation to make a gas station like a mecca of culture.
49:10But it is incredible that like that's where they're going.
49:13It's hilarious. I was less leaning towards Europeans being in awe of Buckees and more just like I've seen a lot of
49:19videos of, you know, English people, French people, Europeans and people from all over the world coming in and being like, oh, American fans were great.
49:27Like great vibes, great energy. Everyone was super nice.
49:29I'll take that. Do you think? I don't really.
49:32The Buckees thing. I don't know. Do you think the Europeans?
49:35Like, I feel like one of the more jarring parts of America when you show up is just the fucking size of our parking lots.
49:42Do you think they're just like. And the roads, dude.
49:45I mean, think if you live in fucking Europe and you show up and you're like, holy shit, MetLife, there's like 100,000 people that can park here.
49:53It's because the stadiums haven't been here for whatever.
49:55The cities haven't been here for a thousand years.
49:58Well, nothing's changed from when they got here 500 years ago.
50:01They showed up and they're like, there's so much land here.
50:04And then they come and they're like, there's still so much land.
50:08We'll never run out of land. We can make a massive parking lot.
50:11The memes of like the European mind could never comprehend.
50:14You can start in North Carolina, drive nine hours and still be in North Carolina.
50:19Yeah. So good. It just. Oh, yeah. Like European drive from LA to San Francisco.
50:23A lot of land in between those two cities.
50:26A lot of nothing. You can just go from London to Paris in that amount of time, basically.
50:31Oh, my God. Yeah. And then the last thing, the ref camera.
50:34Outrageous. Pretty cool. So humbling. And I think humanizes the refs in two seconds more than I felt humanized the refs in 10 years.
50:41Seeing players scream at refs for a call that was like indecipherable.
50:44I like it's just how they missed that. And then you watch ref cam.
50:48I'm like, yeah, that's really hard. I see how they missed that.
50:52Heifetz is always on the side of the refs.
50:55No. VAR, though, I've been radicalized. He's a rep defender.
50:57VAR is bullshit. VAR has been. I'm radicalized against VAR for the little ticky tacky.
51:02Like your elbow is 10 millimeters outside. So that cool goal doesn't count.
51:05Shut the fuck up. It's not how it works.
51:08And it's also fake precise. The little graphic they show up.
51:11There was a great. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't remember.
51:14It's a famous podcast. They like a couple like guys with science backgrounds.
51:18We're talking about. A couple of nerds. A couple of nerds, but they're smart nerds.
51:22Did a great breakdown of basically the idea of like the whole little graphic they show up for the VAR where the
51:28elbows in red and everything else in green. That's like so fake precise.
51:32It's not that accurate. Like there's a margin of error and the idea that it's like a foot.
51:37And if the pretending that you like are a quarter of an inch off sides when in reality, like it's just not how it works.
51:44It's like spotting that football. I still don't understand how in tennis they can just zoom in on where the fucking ball hits.
51:51Well. Down to the fuzz on the ball. And it's like cameras.
51:54I think if you. I have a conspiracy theory.
51:57Like if I watch. So Wimbledon was the last one to adopt it.
52:01And French Open still hasn't. I really think there were a couple that players were kind of like what I think that
52:07Hawkeye is not as accurate as they claim to be 100% honest.
52:11I like learning more about it and how it works.
52:13And especially learning how VAR works where I won't pretend to walk you through the math, but it's interesting.
52:19Basically, if you look at frame rates on cameras and just like if a player is running full speed and then the
52:25balls on someone's foot, it's like in reality, there's a margin of error of like a foot.
52:30And they're pretending like it's perfect. I think Hawkeye though is it's I don't think it's like 100% accurate.
52:36You just have to trust it. Yeah. You're trading the judgment of one thing for another that's more accurate.
52:41But the idea that it's infallible, I think, is actually like a myth.
52:45I mean, it does probably matter more in tennis than any other sport because like there is literally no other way to know.
52:51Like you have to have some super camera figure that out because even when you're playing tennis, even if you watch the
52:58ball land in front of you, sometimes you can't even tell.
53:01Yeah. This is an un-American thing to bring up, but there's an incredible Ringer article about Milorad Kavich, who is the guy
53:07who lost to Michael Phelps for the eighth gold medal in the Olympics.
53:11I remember when they took the photo. Yeah. Yeah.
53:13And wasn't it by the distance of the nail hanging over your finger?
53:17It was one one hundredth of a second. Yes.
53:20So John Gonzalez tracked down Milorad Kavich on the 10 year anniversary and Milorad Kavich has spent 10 years looking into how
53:26do you measure one one hundredth of a second?
53:29And the answer is it is not as cut and dry as you think to have a machine measure one one hundredth of a second underwater.
53:36It's not as simple as it sounds. And there is a chance that that guy hit the thing first, but that Michael
53:42Phelps hit off the sensor first because it's like it's hard to capture one one hundredth of a second.
53:48So anyway, that makes me sad. I he's on this crusade to.
53:51But he like went down the rap. This guy spent.
53:54Everyone's like, buddy, we've moved on. I know. How do we tell him?
53:58He keeps DMing Michael Phelps articles. Christ. Anyway. OK, I want to talk about the NBA for a little bit.
54:04Not that much here because LeBron has leaving the Lakers with a statement, but then didn't go to the Warriors yet.
54:10And Greg, let me refresh Shams. Anything new? Shams, who looks like a robot going on sports air.
54:15What did he say? I'm told this is a happiness led decision for LeBron.
54:19He feels like he needs to find his happiness.
54:21Wherever he lands, it will not be driven by money.
54:24And he's like not moving a muscle while talking about this in SportsCenter.
54:28No, there's nothing. The Kawhi deal to Toronto is finalized.
54:31There's a couple of small deals. That's it. So, yeah, Craig, do you?
54:35It seems like the most likely teams for LeBron are just going to the Warriors with Steph and Draymond going back and
54:41maybe the trade for Anthony Davis going back to the Cavaliers or going back to the Heat.
54:46You're a Warriors fan. Yeah. You don't want LeBron James.
54:49That's correct, Danny. Go on. You have the floor.
54:51I don't deny that it would be fantastic content.
54:54I think like it would basically be like a mini Olympic team traveling around all year and Steph and LeBron being on
55:00the same team and whatever other star they get, Draymond.
55:03That'd be really fun to watch. I just, it is as simple as LeBron James in a Warriors jersey don't work for me.
55:10I can't, I don't want it. It's weird. It does not feel right.
55:13I don't want, I hate at the end of like when it's like the fifth series in a movie.
55:19Uh, when I, it's like, when it's like the fifth installment in a movie franchise and it's like, uh, we're just going
55:25to have the bad guy the whole time actually join the good guy now.
55:29Yeah. Like fast and furious. Yeah. It's like, I don't, I don't, they should not be on the same team in my opinion.
55:36Like I just, the feeling of that, the vibe of that is wrong.
55:39They are, they are career adversaries and I know they're friendly and they've been friendly for a while now.
55:45It was testy 10 years ago when they were in the finals every year.
55:49I know they really respect each other now. I know LeBron has openly talked about loving playing with Steph in the Olympics, all that stuff.
55:56And Draymond and LeBron are legitimately friends. They're great friends, all that.
55:59And again, like I'm sure it would be super fun to watch.
56:03Feels like you're talking me into it now. I just don't want it.
56:07If it was, if they were going to win a ring, I would still say, I would rather Steph not win a
56:13ring without LeBron than win a ring with him.
56:16However, hold on, back up. If I had to spin zone this, if I had to talk myself into it.
56:21He's already doing it. Well, I'm just saying, if this does happen, I would think a couple things.
56:26I would think, well, LeBron had to come to Steph.
56:29You know what I mean? Steph didn't have to go to LeBron.
56:33LeBron came to Steph. Pathetic. I would be like, LeBron is joining Steph's team.
56:37And if they win the title, it's LeBron came to Steph because he, that's how he felt like he could win the title.
56:43So Steph greater than LeBron. I think you should want it for that reason, Craig, is it's win-win because it's, I mean, if it fizzles out, who cares?
56:51But it's like, it's a little pathetic and desperate.
56:54My question, DK, you don't follow the NBA as much.
56:57You're getting back into it, I think. But my question.
57:00I'm semi getting back into it in anticipation of the Sonics coming back.
57:03But that's good because I think you're out of NBA discourse.
57:07And I like the purity of your answer here.
57:09Considering that LeBron, how many finals in a row did LeBron play versus the Warriors?
57:13Like it's this like defining adversary, basically. Uh, 15, 16, 17 and 18.
57:17So far. That's crazy. So DK, if LeBron went to the Warriors and won, considering like Kevin Durant went to the Warriors,
57:24won a title, and it almost made him more controversial.
57:26Right. Like LeBron going to the Expendables version of the Warriors, where they're all old and hurt, but still basically like it's still Steph and Draymond.
57:34And then they won a title. Do you think LeBron would, everyone would be like, cool, LeBron, five titles, won a ring everywhere you went.
57:41Great job. Or people would be like, oh, you ring chasing little bitch had to go to Steph.
57:46It would almost make it worse. It's the Larry David meme where he's just like.
57:51Well, because if they win the title is like, I'm just picturing Jordan getting up on, you know, the scores table and
57:57like pumping his fist into the crowd. I'm like, if the, if LeBron and Curry won the finals, it'd be like, yeah, they should have.
58:04It's not like some great accomplishment. Well, they're both like 40, but.
58:07I know, but this is like, this is where my mind takes me immediately.
58:11Like it just does feel a little fraudulent. If you spin zone it for LeBron, the take is every team he went to, he won a final.
58:19He kept changing teams, kept winning finals. How cool is that?
58:22Winning a title is probably an accomplishment. He's carrying the team on his back.
58:26Oh, it's like he goes to Miami, wins two titles.
58:29Then he goes to Cleveland, wins a title. He goes to LA, wins a title.
58:34A year in Golden State, wins a title. That would be also a very pro LeBron argument.
58:38If I were to be making that, which I'm not.
58:41It's, it is the Darren Revelle. Like it's, it's, it's, it's tremendous content.
58:45You know, it's, it's, um, I don't think they're going to get Anthony Davis.
58:49I don't see how the wizards would do that.
58:52Like, I don't, why would they want 37 year old Jimmy Butler?
58:55There'd have to be like a third team involved.
58:58But if anything, I think it would be just LeBron and they keep Jimmy Butler would be my prediction.
59:03But I don't know. I don't know where else it's like, I guess he could go to Cleveland.
59:08Cleveland? That would probably be my second guess. Cleveland makes the most sense in that, like he's accomplished everything he needs to accomplish.
59:15And there's Danny Chow had a great take on this for the ringer this week, which is if LeBron goes to Cleveland, it doesn't matter what happens.
59:23Like he just, he went home and it's at this point, I mean, we're approaching 25 years of LeBron in the NBA.
59:29Like just going to Cleveland alone is probably a good ending for him.
59:33No matter. Like it's the only place that he could go age poorly and it would be lovely.
59:38Well, and it just being in the Jersey. If he goes back to Cleveland, he's, he immediately is the biggest star on
59:44the team and is like the center of everything.
59:47If he goes to Golden State, it's not really like that.
59:50Maybe he doesn't care about that. If he goes to, I don't see Miami at all.
59:54Like I don't, I'm going with Miami. Is it weird though to be with James Harden?
59:59Cause now you're going to strip clubs with your son.
60:02Like is that weird? I have to imagine Harden wouldn't be on that team, but, but I, didn't they just extend him?
60:08I don't know. Wait, so is Bronny, did his contract guarantee with the Lakers yesterday?
60:13So like is Bronny a Laker or is he going to?
60:16He waited to the day after. Apparently LeBron waited to the day after Bronny's contract guaranteed for 2.3 million to say.
60:22Dad of the year. Pretty good. Wow. Bronny, Bronny needed the money.
60:25You know, he doesn't have any money coming his way.
60:28You just give him a four. He's just given rights to like some foreign minerals in Kazakhstan.
60:33Is, can I ask a question about LeBron? And this is again, someone who doesn't, I didn't really follow the NBA closely.
60:39Why doesn't he just retire? I guess he's still playing at a high enough level.
60:44He's a top 20 player. He averaged 25 a game last year.
60:47He beat the Rockets in a series. He won a playoff series without Luka Tosh.
60:51That's correct. At 40, whatever. DK, let me look right now.
60:54He didn't average 25. 21. He averaged 21. But he, dude, he won a playoff game against the Rockets team that at
61:01one point was like theoretically the third best team in the conference.
61:04Yeah. I mean, I mean. And they had Kevin Durant.
61:07The year before last, 2024, the 24, 25 season when LeBron was 40, he averaged 24, seven and eight and was sixth in MVP voting.
61:14That's fucking. Well, there's my answer. That was the first.
61:17Michael Jordan at that age had been. Isn't he just tired?
61:20When do you get tired of the whole thing?
61:23Clearly. He just went to Scotland for a golf trip.
61:26You know, it's like the end is nigh. But I mean, Jordan came out of like GMing wizards to play with Kwame Brown when he was 39.
61:33You know what I mean? Like, I mean, obviously he had 20 years of.
61:37Is there a dark horse team that he's going to end up on that we that no one's thinking of right now?
61:44I mean, Bill floated San Antonio. Oh, God. Fuck.
61:46Get the fuck. They need an old guy. That would be that would be crushing.
61:51I feel like they would actually. Wow. That would be.
61:54When toward Brian Windhorst made a good point that you can speculate all these teams.
61:58Only one team has made a move that that felt deliberate to to making it work with LeBron.
62:03And that was Draymond opting out to sign a better deal so that they could afford to bring in LeBron is like
62:09the only move that a team has actively done that is to get LeBron.
62:13So I don't know if that if it's like at the three yard line and it's very close.
62:18But doesn't it? What do you want? Heifetz, do you want to see LeBron wearing a Warriors jersey?
62:24Do you not give a fuck? And you're like, who cares?
62:27Stefan LeBron. That would be fun. It's it's it's it's it's LeBron versus the Warriors.
62:31Like, I feel like he broke my brain. It's as it breaks my brain.
62:35LeBron versus the Warriors, I feel like, is my defining basketball experience.
62:39Yeah, I don't know why, but that feels four times in a row.
62:42It just was. And probably because it's the transition from from college to like working at the ringer, which obviously started to
62:49like that's when I started marinating in basketball. I mean, when I was an intern or editorial assistant, I remember one of
62:55the days I had to go to work. Bill had interviewed Kevin Durant, who hadn't slept holding the trophy and he was eating the bag of chips.
63:03But like I'm like going to work and I'm like doing the first interview.
63:07Kevin Durant's done. You know what I mean? It was just like a crazy time.
63:11And the idea that LeBron would join, it is like Larry Bird going to the Lakers or Magic going to the Celtics.
63:17It's a little crazy. I know. And but it would be incredible for content.
63:21But I mean, the Spurs is terrifying. The Spurs is like LeBron could actually get two more rings.
63:26Yeah. Or more. I actually haven't even thought of that.
63:29I don't know how the I have no idea the cap space or any of that shit works.
63:34I know. It's like if you think the NFL is confusing about like void years.
63:39These contracts aren't really guaranteed. The NBA, dude. Good luck.
63:42The NBA infuriates me in a couple of ways.
63:44First apron, second apron, mid-level exception. I mean, there is so much shit going on.
63:49The NBA can't get the draft picks to wear the right fucking hats because they're like, well, we wrote some rules.
63:55It's like, well, unwrite them. It's like it is impossible to watch the NBA draft and know who is going to what team.
64:01It is. It is so difficult. It's like, holy shit.
64:04So. So wait, what's your answer? Do you want LeBron to go to the Warriors or not?
64:09Honestly, I don't give a shit. I just think it's interesting.
64:12I think the Warriors is the most interesting. The Knicks won the finals.
64:16Like it's the first year ever where I'm like, I don't care.
64:19The Knicks won the. I think probably. Yeah. The Warriors.
64:22Cause I think it's not threatening. The Spurs. I'm like, I actually think this.
64:26I don't think the Knicks could beat the Warriors.
64:29The Spurs. If they had LeBron, to be honest.
64:31Like if everyone is healthy, I think. I don't think anyone could beat the Spurs.
64:36If LeBron went there, the combination of playing and knowledge that he would bring.
64:40Also, like people are like, well, LeBron likes playing in LA.
64:43Does he really want to live somewhere else? I'm like, who cares?
64:46That's stupid. It's like, it's please. Anyway, I, he, yeah.
64:49All right. Probably the worst. Like he's building a hundred million dollar compound in Beverly Hills.
64:54I'm like, yeah, but I mean, what? He's not going to go play in Cleveland for six months?
64:59Dude, JJ Reddick lived in Brooklyn and commuted to Philadelphia for the Sixers for like two full years.
65:04Yeah. Like it's fine. Yeah. And just like, you know, he's not moving there for, he's not committing 10 years there.
65:10He'll go there for like eight months. Okay. So, uh, I can't wait to rewind for Craig all his, I don't want LeBron.
65:17He's already, he's already talking himself into it. Oh, I'm not.
65:20I can hear it. I would like to plainly say that I do not want him playing next to Stefan.
65:26Wait, so I. Bad. At the risk of beating a dead.
65:29Well, no, I can do it if this actually happens.
65:32But, um, did I ever tell you guys that I covered the, he was supposed to appear the day he signed with
65:38the Lakers at a Blaze Pizza and that he didn't show and I was there.
65:42Oh yeah. Wait, I actually think I did. Who, LeBron?
65:45You were pissed, right? Didn't you wait for a long time?
65:48No, it wasn't me. Well, I was covering it for the ringer, but the crowd turned.
65:53So he was supposed, there was a. He's an investor in Blaze Pizza, right?
65:57Yeah. There was a very heavily circulated rumor that he was going to appear.
66:01Turned into a mob. It was at the Grove, right?
66:04Oh, uh, that's sound. I don't remember which one it was probably.
66:07And it was. Mall in LA. There were hundreds and hundreds of people at the strip mall for in line.
66:13And it, and it was like the crowd turned and it was like, it was like shooting fish in a barrel because it was just 400.
66:20And the point was to like, you know, get the temperature of Lakers fans.
66:24And it was to me like an anthropological study because I did not understand that there were Kobe fans and there are Lakers fans.
66:31And they're different. Like there are like Kobe fans care so much more about Kobe Bryant.
66:36That they do about the Lakers. And I, it was cause I had no idea until I talked to hundreds of people
66:42that Lakers fans kind of didn't give a fuck that he was coming.
66:46Yes. I mean, the same way that we're talking about how weird it would be to see LeBron in the Warriors.
66:52That is how it felt when he went to the Lakers.
66:55It was like, they had just hated him and they had dug in and like, I, half the people were excited and
67:01half were like a little upset that LeBron was signing with them.
67:05And I couldn't wrap my mind around it. Yeah.
67:07Yeah. I completely agree. Anyway. Okay. All right. A couple emails.
67:11We'll get out of here. Emails. And again, thank you to the members.
67:14We're going to start doing the hot quarterback unveiling starting next week after the 4th of July.
67:19We're going to go twice a week. Stick with us for fantasy.
67:23Almost kicking the high gear boys. We're coming up on two months till the season.
67:27Wild. So I want to start emails. When we covered the Miles Garrett trade a month after it happened, we were wondering
67:33if he was like the best athlete ever traded.
67:36Yeah. So I got an email from Casey. I like that Bill.
67:39They couldn't do an emergency on something because they didn't think it justified it.
67:43So they called it an urgent gathering, which I really liked.
67:46Urgent gathering. What's our urgent? What kind of gathering is it when we do Miles Garrett trade a month later?
67:52A month late? Overdue gathering. I don't know. It's like we T-voted or something.
67:56Dude, I don't know how we went backwards. T-voting was great.
67:59Streaming is tough. But anyway, Casey writes breakfast was a yogurt parfait with strawberries and granola.
68:04Nice. Healthy. I made homemade oatmeal today. We'll talk about it later.
68:07Okay. Should we do it now? Steel cut. I haven't made oatmeal in a long time.
68:12How do you make oatmeal? Because it was steel.
68:14I milled the oats myself in a field. No, you buy it.
68:18What do you mean? You buy the oats and you boil it in water.
68:22What do you mean? How do you make oatmeal?
68:25I know what he means. Homemade oatmeal implies. Homemade oatmeal.
68:27Yeah. It sounds like you made it. I don't know.
68:30Californians do weird shit, man. I would decay. You said homemade oatmeal.
68:34I'm sorry for anything. I made my own oats.
68:36Yes. I was wondering. I was like, what do you need a homemade oatmeal?
68:40You're like farm to tabling it or something. No, I feel like the casual is like you have the packet that you put in the microwave.
68:48I did like the old school on the stove thing.
68:51Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. I don't have a wheat farm.
68:54It's just got a scythe out. Honestly, though, I hope to one day.
68:58That sounds sick. I'd love to go around for it.
69:01You're like, you're going to do the gladiator thing and just walk through the wheat field with your hands on the side.
69:07During the pandemic, I tried to like eat healthier.
69:10So I was like overnight oats. So I just made oatmeal and I left them out overnight.
69:15Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You already cooked. Yeah. That's fair.
69:18I think you're just you're just full of bacteria.
69:20Overnight oats. Like because you don't cook. You just soak the oats, raw oats in milk, which is kind of confusing.
69:26So I just seems insane. Yes. Yes. I think that's I was like, surely that's wrong.
69:31Shall we go on to the email? Yeah, whatever.
69:33Parfait. Everybody loves parfaits. Everybody loves parfait. Oh, I just a Shrek.
69:37I didn't tell you guys about it. They're going to make a.
69:40Oh, I saw the pics. We'll do it. We'll do it.
69:43Donkey spinoff. Did you guys see that? Fuck, really?
69:46Dude, I just watched. I did dress a Shrek and run down.
69:49Oh, yeah. Eddie Murphy. I did that. Cool. Do you want to do this email?
69:54That'll tell you about the Shrek run. Yeah. Yeah.
69:56I got a couple of people reach out to me about your Shrek photos.
70:00So we'll do that. So I want to do this email.
70:04OK. I feel bad when we just go into like a.
70:07No, you're right. That's the one fault with the breakfast thing.
70:10I got to shut up, listen to the breakfast.
70:12And then we got to get to the. Here's the thing.
70:16You could you could start reading it. No, that was on me.
70:19I cut it. Casey. Anyway, Casey's right. This is the most humble.
70:22This is the most correct email. I just correct email I've ever seen.
70:26Miles Garrett is the second best athlete ever traded in his prime.
70:30You guys said he might be the best. Casey says, I hope I'm not the first person to email this in, but
70:36the best athlete ever traded in their prime is Wayne Gretzky.
70:39And it's not even close. Wayne Gretzky. When he was traded to the Kings.
70:43The great one. Yeah. Wayne Gretzky. I didn't. I feel like I didn't know this.
70:47First of all, there was a 30 for 30 on this, an early 30 for 30.
70:52And I didn't realize the depth of this. Wayne Gretzky.
70:55Wayne Gretzky. So I can't say his name. One more time.
70:58Wayne Gretzky, captain of the four time Stanley Cup champion Edmonton Oilers, was already the best player of all time on the
71:04best team at the time and was traded. The traded immediately after winning their fourth Stanley Cup.
71:09And he was the playoff MVP. I'm already mad at the Oilers.
71:13Why'd they trade him? Apparently the owner was low.
71:15What the fuck are you doing, Oilers? The owner was low on money, bro.
71:19I don't know. He wanted to cash in. He needed money.
71:22And so that crazy. Low on oil. Yeah. Low on oil.
71:26Oil was low. So at the time Wayne Gretzky was traded, he had won the Stanley Cup four times.
71:31He was the regular season MVP eight times. He had led the NHL.
71:35Eight times? Eight times. He had led the NHL in points seven times.
71:38He was voted by NHL players as the most outstanding player this season five times, was the playoff MVP twice, and even had gotten a sportsmanship trophy.
71:46He's a good guy. Eight time MVP, four time chantry.
71:49You know, kids, that was the one I was the most proud of.
71:53You know what, though? You know what's kind of a fuck you?
71:56They won the Stanley Cup two years after they traded them.
71:59The Oilers did? Yeah. Oh, it worked. Kind of sick.
72:02I did not know that. Kind of awesome. So maybe Gretzky overrated?
72:06Gretzky. It was fine. Derek Thompson and Russillo did a pod.
72:09Ewing theory? Gretzky theory. That's funny. Derek Thompson and Russillo did a pod once where they tried to find what's the best
72:15sports stat, and they both unanimously agreed it was if you took all the points.
72:19If you took all Wayne Gretzky's goals away, he would still lead NHL in points.
72:24Is Ovechkin close to beating him? No. So Ovechkin overcame him.
72:27So in hockey, you get some, what is it, a half point for an assist?
72:31Yeah. I think. So it's a goal. So Ovechkin has to give him goals.
72:35I answered confidently. I did. Yeah. It's less than a goal.
72:38Whatever that is. The Bills of a Dome? I want to say you get two for a goal.
72:44I want to say you get two for a goal and one for an assist.
72:48And I have not looked that up. So. Great.
72:50Wayne Gretzky, I think it's 1,800 assists, and the guy behind him is 700 off for second place.
72:56It's like Jerry Rice in receiving yards. It's like the guy in second place is like 40% behind him.
73:01What did the Oilers get for Gretzky? Was it?
73:04I don't know. What's the 30 for 30? Gretzky trade.
73:07I mean, I could look it up, but I don't know that these players.
73:11They got Jimmy Carson, Martin Galinas, 15 million in cash, and then three first round draft picks.
73:15I don't know what that fucking means. Also, I think it's you get one point for a goal or an assist.
73:21Is it the same? Well, that's what I'm seeing.
73:24But Craig really confidently said. Don't you spend that on me.
73:27Look, we didn't know Wayne Gretzky got traded in his prime.
73:30We didn't know how the point system works in hockey.
73:33All right. I definitely. I don't know shit about soccer, and I know more about soccer than hockey.
73:38I don't think I even understood how icing worked in hockey until like three years ago.
73:43Okay. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
73:46Am I wrong? No, no, no. Sorry. Wayne Gretzky never won a ring with the Kings.
73:50Seems so. Yeah. I'm seeing that as well. So the Oilers traded away the greatest player of all time.
73:56The team that got him never won. And the team that gave him up won two years later.
74:01Hmm. Interesting. Good trade. I mean, can you not say that?
74:04This guy was cooking. Is that not literally a good trade based only on outcome?
74:09Yeah. So you think the Browns are going to win before the Rams?
74:12I hope that's what you're telling me. I don't know.
74:15I mean, I know I'm wrong. But also like.
74:18What do you mean? What year did they win that you're talking about?
74:21Who? They did win two years later. That's crazy.
74:24They won in 1990, and they traded him in 88.
74:27And the Kings never won with him. This is a good bit.
74:30We should just discover all of hockey history. LA got to him.
74:34LA. I mean, he's a Canadian. A Canadian boy.
74:36Went to LA. LA ruined him. He never won a ring after that trade with any team.
74:41We just like discover hockey. This is a good bit.
74:44I always think it's. I truly like Wayne Gretzky is a great example of.
74:48I just find it so fascinating when people. The rare athletes, the rare people in every sport.
74:53There's like one in every generation or maybe less where they're just so clearly.
74:57Like it's a messy thing. So clearly better than everyone else in the world.
75:01Yeah. And I mean, Gretzky, obviously in his prime, you hear so many stories about.
75:05And he wasn't even a big guy. He had to have, you know, enforcers on the team sort of protect him because
75:12he was sort of a short skinny guy. Messy too.
75:15So good. Yeah. I mean, Messy had to take like human growth hormone as a kid because he was so small.
75:21But I think it's so fascinating. Just the, you know, it's like, I guess the word is talent that he had.
75:27It's just, he's so good at the game. He knew where to be at all times.
75:31He knew how the spacing worked. He just like could see in the future, basically where everybody was going to be.
75:37And he was so much better than everyone else.
75:40I'm always just so fascinated. How does that happen?
75:42And we've talked about this with Katie Ledecky. How is she so much better than everyone?
75:47It's just crazy. But the Ledecky thing, I feel like has not been explained to me.
75:52Ledecky, I forget the exact thing, but that event she's great at.
75:55I don't know if it's a thousand meters or 800 where the 18 of the top 20 scores are all time or just her.
76:02How could anyone be? That's crazy. It's wild. I think it's fascinating though.
76:06Anyway, Gretzky fascinates me. Just a skinny, small guy from Canada who became the great, the great one.
76:11The best hockey player of all time. Questionable trade.
76:13Really? Why'd they trade him though? I'm mad about this.
76:16We should see if anyone's made a documentary. It makes me mad that they were rewarded for that trade.
76:22Okay. Another email here. This email is from Jane.
76:24Jane. J-Bone. Breakfast was toast with eggs, greens, chili crisp, red cabbage, sweet corn, and parm with an Americano.
76:30That's an amazing breakfast. Good God. That sounds amazing.
76:32Fantastic. Wow. It's great. Chili crisp. Chili crisp is really elite.
76:35Elite. Yeah. So the subject line in this email is from Jane is why lesbians love Joe Burrow.
76:41Oh yeah. Yeah. And if you are caught, if you're catching up, I discovered we'll do the hot quarterback ranking.
76:46I had multiple lesbians. Like at this point, we went from half a dozen to over a dozen lesbians reach out, all
76:53confirming that like Joe Burrow is disproportionately attractive to lesbians.
76:55We had a baker's dozen lesbians reach out. But at some point, it's a pattern.
77:00So Jane writes, I have many thoughts on why Joe Burrow is so popular with lesbians.
77:04For context, Jane says, I'm a rugby player. So I both am a lesbian and I know a lot of lesbians who are into sports.
77:12So I think Joe Burrow being attractive to lesbians boils down to that lesbians love a man who seems a little pathetic.
77:18I gotta be honest. A little. I did not think that's where that was going.
77:22A little pathetic. Jane writes, Joe Burrow has an aura of emasculation and that really plays with the lesbians.
77:28It's part general vibe, part Joe Burrow's ill-timed injuries, and part him having to fight the uphill battle of making up for his shitty defense.
77:35It's easy to feel bad for the guy. And Jane finds that that is an important ingredient in the man who lesbians find attractive equation.
77:42What? Jane then writes, Joe Burrow is also the quarterback who looks most like a lesbian, kind of like the way that
77:48Leo DiCaprio looks like a lesbian in Titanic. And then she linked to something.
77:52And I see now, I didn't know this, but apparently Leo DiCaprio in Titanic is a lesbian icon.
77:57Didn't know that. Didn't know that either. But I went down a wormhole and it is in fact the thing on the internet.
78:04So it's, I mean, it's like clean cut, pretty boy, long hair, you know?
78:08I don't know. I'm just reading the email. There are, someone else said that.
78:12Can we convince the people that wrote to tell, to explain this Leo thing too?
78:16Yeah. No. If everyone wants to explain the Leo thing, I Googled it.
78:20It is not something Jane made up. It is a real thing that like.
78:24Well, Leo transcends all sexuality. And, you know, I feel like everybody in the world was like, Leo.
78:29Yeah. Do you know how? Yeah. Would. Dude. Again, it's, see, I Googled it.
78:33There's a Reddit thread. As a teen, I was in love with Leo and Titanic.
78:38As an adult, I can appreciate him. Sorry. This is the Reddit late bloomer lesbians.
78:42As an, like, yeah, it's just, I don't know.
78:45Apparently this is a thing. I'd never heard of this, but then I go, it is a thing.
78:50I mean, honestly, that's a pretty, that's honestly a win for Burrow if he's now in the same category as Leo.
78:56Right. Only good things. Like the heartthrob of America for like 10 years.
78:59Joe Burrow is in the same conversation. Yeah. That's good.
79:02I'll be curious to see where he, where he lands in the list.
79:06I very divisive figure. Oh, interesting. You're right. You know, I could see somebody ranking him 12th and then I could see
79:12a lot of people ranking him first or second.
79:15Yeah. I don't think Joe Burrow is last in a lot of people's rankings, but he's not like some unanimous number one.
79:21Yeah. I think that's right. Also, we were talking about the phrase tarps off and got an email from Kel.
79:27Speaking of soccer, when you win the game, score a goal, tarps immediately off.
79:31So Kel. Cabon. Cabon. Right. Breakfast overnight oats. Scoop of protein and M&Ms.
79:35I wonder if they left the overnight. M&Ms. Homemade?
79:37Homemade overnight oats. Kel wrote, not sure if they coined it, but the first time I heard tarps off was on the show Letter Kenny.
79:44One of the best shows of all time. A hundred percent.
79:48I agree. This is where I heard tarps off from.
79:50I don't know if Letter Kenny invented it. Is it a Canadian thing?
79:54Letter Kenny is a great show. It's really funny.
79:57It might've been a hockey thing, but Letter Kenny, kind of like a lot of phrases we use are actually kind of from the league.
80:04Was Wayne Gretzky using tarps off when he was growing up in Canada?
80:08I mean, maybe when he was in Edmonton. I don't know if he was on the Kings.
80:13When he was losing on the Kings. Yeah, he was losing on the Kings.
80:17Probably not. Not much to celebrate. Trying too hard to get in with the Hollywood elite.
80:21I know. Okay. Too busy acting in commercials. Get on the ice.
80:25No ice in LA. That's the problem. Also, no lakes.
80:27Weirdly enough. All right. This is another one. I meant to talk about this a week ago, but this is boys.
80:34I've been hiding this from you. Okay. Obviously, everyone remembers Jelly the Bear, the turtleback zoo in Essex County, New Jersey that was hiding a bear.
80:41And we got, quote unquote, confirmation that Jelly was, quote unquote, alive and not a replacement bear.
80:46They did an Instagram live where they really, they didn't mention us, but it was definitely because we said the bear was dead and had been replaced.
80:54Anyway, the turtleback zoo was evacuated last week after a black bear was spotted wandering inside.
80:58Oh, like not like a real, like a wild bear.
81:01A wild because the zoo is in a, in like a great park and like a mountain reservation.
81:06We'd always speculated that Jelly just escaped and then they accidentally shot him and then realized it was jelly.
81:12A black bear broke into the spray paint a different one.
81:15Exactly. Or like the zoo in the aquarium in China that had a fake whale shark.
81:19Oh, I didn't know about that. They're just spray painting it.
81:23But the, so I, a black bear broke into the zoo.
81:26Wow. And I was wondering if the black bear wanted justice.
81:29This is like the plot of a cartoon, like a Pixar movie.
81:32It is. I got to tell you, I went to the zoo in Sweden.
81:36I didn't tell you guys about this, but I had an amazing day.
81:40Katie Baker and I, Austin, Carlos Kai. He didn't text us that he was having the best day of his life.
81:46We went to a Swedish zoo. Hey guys, hope you're having a good Tuesday.
81:50I'm having the best day of my life. I see you're on a call right now.
81:55Enjoy. You guys should have came. I'm going to go up to the snow cone.
81:59See you later. So we went to the Swedish zoo and it's funny.
82:03Well, what's the name of the Swedish park? The zoo in Sweden.
82:06Okay. I went to the American zoo. I'll fucking pull it up then.
82:10Fine. Smart guy. I'll pull up, pull up the name of the whole thing.
82:14Smart guy. It is incredible. It is called shit.
82:17Is it Colmarden wildlife parks? Skansen. Oh, Skansen. It's an open air museum, but it's a giant area.
82:22It's a part like a fjord. It's like there's animals.
82:25It's an amazing open air park. It's like a whole island really.
82:28And the same way like those Nordic prisons are really lovely and like it seems like they're lovely.
82:33Like we go to an American zoo and it feels like animal prison.
82:37And the Swedish zoo felt like a Swedish prison as in lovely.
82:40And I could live here myself. It was such a lovely atmosphere.
82:44Free food. All right. It was just great, man.
82:46It was such a better. It was such a better zoo.
82:50Explain the difference between that and like an American zoo.
82:52It was so quaint. It's like the bars were like made out of wood and it just felt like the animals had enough space.
82:59And I saw moose. The cages were less safe.
83:02Less hard. The animals don't want to go. I don't know.
83:05It was so lovely. They had moose and they had mooses.
83:08Moose. Moose. They had seals, pigs. They even had cats.
83:11It was great. I had cats in their zoo.
83:14They were shackling up cats. No shackles. That's the point.
83:16Why do they got cats there? I don't know.
83:19It was funny. They're free to go work during the day as long as they come back.
83:24They had bears. They're going to kill rats like at Disneyland.
83:27Oh, God. Did you go to the animated movie?
83:30The cats at Disneyland who Disney should make that.
83:32Ooh. They want to talk about all the rats at Disneyland?
83:35You want to advertise that? Maybe it's like they become friends or I don't know.
83:40There's something there. Disneyland. We have rats. The secret cats of Disneyland.
83:43Maybe they don't have to kill rats, but it's like the secret cats of Disneyland is interesting.
83:48The rats can be bad. They can be bad.
83:51It's like all the stadiums of cats. It's a ratatouille family and they cook for the cats.
83:55Catatouille. Catatouille. Catatouille. Ratatouille, too. It's cats now. It's cats now.
83:59That's good. Fuck. That's really good. It's cat-ening. Yeah.
84:01It's cats now. Damn, that's actually really good. Hyphens, did you go to the Vasa or whatever, the big ship?
84:07I want to go to Big Ship Museum, but I kind of realized I had already been there and I had my spiel about it.
84:14So I didn't go back to Big Ship Museum.
84:17Did you go to the ABBA? If you're in Stockholm, best museum at all.
84:21It's so good. Did you go to the ABBA Museum?
84:24No. I went to Scanson, which was a great time.
84:26I wanted to go to ABBA, but I couldn't rally a crew and we just didn't have time to tie it.
84:33It's a shame what our generation is about. I wanted to go to the ABBA thing, so I did Scanson.
84:38You couldn't gather a crew to go to- Well, sorry.
84:41I was too busy fucking watching the Knicks win the finals at three in the morning and I used my capital on that.
84:48You had to go see cats behind bars. Ridiculous.
84:50You have a cat. I love cats. I know.
84:53Is that kind of like cheating on your cat?
84:55It is like cheating on your cat. There's a book.
84:58Look, Joanna Robinson, I think her friend is writing a book about cheating on cats on vacation.
85:03It's like you're like- She's writing a book about that?
85:06Oh, the first cat that comes and rubs up against your leg?
85:10All of a sudden, now you're best friends with that cat?
85:13It's true. I see. It does feel a little risque.
85:16Okay. I can tell you about the Shrek run.
85:18I also got a great email about pirates. What do you guys want?
85:22Fuck it. Give me both. I need to hear about the Shrek run.
85:26Did anyone recognize you when you went out? No, I was worried about it, actually.
85:30You mean as Shrek? As Shrek. Hey, it's Shrek.
85:32I did dress up as Shrek. So again, for those who don't know, so I'm in the Dynasty League with some friends and they- I came in last.
85:40I'm not embarrassed by it because it's the third year of the league and I won the league the first year.
85:47He can't talk about this without saying he won.
85:49Yes. I bring it up every fucking time. Just say you got last.
85:53Professional credibility. I bring it up every fucking time because I won the league.
85:57I won the league again and then I had last place and I bring it up every time.
86:02Annoyingly good at fantasy. I'll say that. Well, I got you on my love, so fuck it.
86:07But I had to dress up so that you have to dress up as a character of the league's choosing and last
86:13year they chose Lord Farquaad and they were like, fuck it.
86:16Shrek is awesome. So this made me Shrek. They upped it a level.
86:20And- You put on green paint. You went to the fold.
86:23You looked great. Yeah. I tried very hard. So I bought the mask, as you guys know, and the last episode I
86:30think we- I put it on and unanimously, I think eight different people were like, you cannot wear that in public.
86:36The bars won't let you in. And I was like, well, that's the only rule of this thing is you have to get into bars.
86:43It's like literally the only rule. And so basically you have to go and hide in a- it's the biggest bar strip in DC.
86:50Did you go alone to the bar? Oh, you have to.
86:53I actually- It was controversial. Jackie showed up with me and- My anxiety.
86:57My social anxiety is through the roof on that.
86:59I don't like going anywhere alone. They basically ruled that Jackie couldn't come.
87:03And so she went home, which was brutal. Because she was like, well, I'm not- So- but it's like a long strip
87:09and it's- I don't know how many bars. There must be 30 or maybe that's low.
87:14There's so many bars. And I get a half hour head start and I have to go to a bar and they have to chase me.
87:21But every two- I forget, two or three bars they check, they have to get a drink.
87:26So you can't just like open the door. Like- Right.
87:29You have to be, you know, strategic about it.
87:32And I fucking nailed it. I broke the record for how long I hid from them.
87:36Because I'm drinking on their tab and then they like drink on my tab.
87:40It's a whole thing. What's funny is like by you winning, you just become a guy who gets increasingly more drunk sitting alone at a bar as Shrek.
87:48Yes. It's like you win, but you really lose.
87:51So I want to shout out- Did you like bring a book?
87:54Or were you just looking at your phone? I made friends- I'll shout out the bar.
87:59So it starts at this bar called Whitlow's, which is where we start every year.
88:03And it's basically from Whitlow's, which is at like U and 9th or something.
88:07And it goes all the way to like Exiles, which is the soccer bar in DC on like U Street and like must be like 18th.
88:15And I totally- And I fucked with them and I basically implied I would go to Exiles, which is the farthest edge of the boundary.
88:22And I walked one door down- Operation Mincemeat again.
88:24And I went in the first bar when you take a right.
88:28I went in the first fucking bar, which is called MK on U.
88:31It's a hookah bar that had a rooftop and the World Cup.
88:35Shrek- And I scouted it. And they had the rooftop bar and they had Shrek on.
88:40And because the first two- Because I obviously hadn't lost.
88:42So like you hunt for people the first two years.
88:45And the first year we did this, I was like, should we check this first bar?
88:50And everyone's like, no. The second year, I was like, why don't we check these bars?
88:54No. No one wanted to check the bars on the block.
88:58And so I was like, fuck it. And I went in the first door and then everyone walked 10 blocks or 20 blocks.
89:04It came back down and it was disgusting. And they were all sweaty.
89:08It was hilarious. Were you like Tobias Duque? And there's just green paint on the wall around you?
89:13On my light switches. Yeah, on everything. I am like Tobias Duque.
89:17There's green paint on the light switches, on my wallet, on everything.
89:20What was your solo experience like? Who did you interact with?
89:23What did people say? What were you doing? Great question.
89:26I went to hookah lounge. I want to shout out to Kimmy and Daron, who I sat with at the bar with
89:32a very patient bartender for 90 minutes. And we got and I had.
89:36Were you allowed to explain to them what you were doing?
89:39Obviously. Or you could get like arrested. I don't know.
89:42I'm like, yeah, of course I could explain it.
89:45But like, yeah, no, they were great sports about it.
89:48Honestly, Shrek is a very popular character. Universal, yeah.
89:50Everyone. Acceptance. Cars were. Dreamworks. When I was walking around.
89:53Dude. Yeah, that's a good point. Dreamworks. Cars. When I was just walking to the bar, cars were honking at me.
89:59That went over my head. It's funny. I see now what you did.
90:03Okay. But people were screaming at me in the sidewalk.
90:06I got out of a car and someone was like, get out of my swat.
90:10Like literally like just people. I felt like actually like an A-list celebrity.
90:14Like everyone was turning and looking at me and just talking to me.
90:17Every single person was like, no one did not acknowledge me as Shrek.
90:21I don't know if I've realized this, but I feel like Shrek might be the connective tissue between our two generations.
90:27I think it is. Because I was into Shrek when I, like, I loved Shrek growing up.
90:32First Shrek was like what? Or not growing up.
90:35Or something. When was first Shrek? And also parents, everyone's seen it.
90:38Like every, like Shrek is. 2001, first Shrek. I guess I was going into college at that point, but not growing up.
90:44But I loved Shrek. Yeah. Well, the tale of animated movies, like I feel like even through high school, like I would go see a good Pixar movie.
90:52You know what I mean? Even to this day, like I want to go see Toy Story 5.
90:58Same. I didn't realize there were so many Shreks.
91:00Like I watched Shrek 1 obviously a million times.
91:03I've seen Shrek 2, which I think is good.
91:05Was not, when they announced Shrek 5, which is coming in 2027, I kind of forgot that there was a Shrek 3 and a Shrek 4.
91:13Me too. I re-watched them for this event. And Shrek 1 is great.
91:16Shrek 2 might be better. And Shrek 3, I couldn't finish it.
91:20Rumpelstiltskin, who gives a fuck about that guy? I couldn't finish Shrek ever after.
91:24Out on Rumpelstiltskin. Fuck that. Do the Puss in Boots movies count as Shrek?
91:28Are those extra? I haven't seen them. I've heard great things.
91:31The cinematic universe. Apparently the second Puss in Boots is great.
91:34The SCU? Shrek cinematic universe. Should we add that to movie club?
91:38Are we going to do movie club? Should we make DK watch Transformers for next week?
91:42I'll watch Transformers. Movie club, Craig? Transformers? Sure. All right.
91:45We're going to do movie club for- Craig's the least excited about this because he does this whole other podcast.
91:51I don't know if you've heard of it. No, I just- No, no.
91:55We should totally do it. It'll be fun. July 8th.
91:57Well, maybe we'll get lucky. Maybe rewatchables will just happen to do Transformers 2.
92:01Like maybe, you know? That'd be sweet. No, we'll do the July 8th, 9th or whatever.
92:06We'll do the Transformers movie club. Sweet. Everyone else can rewatch it with us.
92:10If you want to rewatch it. Sorry. Not rewatch.
92:13That's not the word I meant to use. Can take part in watching it also.
92:17Watch first time. Let me see where- Are we going to talk about it next week?
92:22Transformers, for those curious, is on Hulu and Paramount Plus, if you have Prime.
92:26There we go. Okay, so not the most accessible movie we chose for the first one.
92:30Well, Hulu. Hulu. The- And if you join the Discord at some point, I'm going to try to like, we'll do a watch along in the Discord.
92:38Join the Discord. We're going to- The Discord's going to be great this year.
92:42Pop into our Discord, which is the episode description is linked to our Discord.
92:46Oh, DK, when LinkedIn- When fucking- LinkedIn. When Linkin Park comes in at the end, you're going to be- This whole thing's just a bitch.
92:53Fired up. You're going to be flying. Yeah. You're going to- Is it going to be weird watching Transformers and like Shia
92:59LaBeouf is all sort of innocent and- Shia LaBeouf?
93:02Sheepish. What'd I call it? What's his name? Shia LaBeouf?
93:05LaBeouf. LaBeouf. I think. I don't know. I've heard it pronounced different ways.
93:09What if I fucking said that? You're going to say, it's going to be hard for you to consume a piece of
93:15art knowing that the person doing the art has grown up to do bad things?
93:19I feel like I'm getting trapped here. No, I won't.
93:22I won't say that. I'm just saying like, yeah, yeah.
93:25Get in line. There's like- Also, like, you know, I can't listen to Kanye's music anymore.
93:30So what are we doing? You know? I've decided that I just won't listen to anything he did after Pablo, that he had a mental break.
93:37And before the rift, before the rupture, I still do it.
93:40And then after, I'm just like, whatever. Okay. That's how I feel about Shia LaBeouf.
93:44You can't look into anything. Like every celebrity you look into, you can find something bad.
93:49And then you're like, well, I guess I can't watch any of these movies anymore.
93:53I used to love the celebrity apprentice. I don't know what that guy's up to now.
93:58Yeah. Good show. I did actually watch it. Compelling and rich.
94:01Oh, really? I, I did. Oh yeah. Maybe seeing clips.
94:04Oh no, I watched it. Wow. Uh, pirates. Shia had it though.
94:07Let me, I just want to say it. Shia, there was a time when I, I thought he was the fucking guy.
94:14Even Stevens was unreal. He, he, he had such comedic talent.
94:17I thought he was a good dramatic actor. He was good looking kid.
94:21He had great timing, like had everything. I thought he was, he had a run there where he did Transformers, Eagle Eye,
94:27a movie I liked, Disturbia, good movie coming off even Stevens.
94:30They put, he was the next Indiana Jones. It was crazy.
94:33He did some cannibal stuff, which you're a huge fan of.
94:36Uh, that was in the hottest take. That was in the, the orb of the hottest take only.
94:42So that's basically the take. I'm just saying. Mm.
94:44Altruistic cannibalism. Altru, altruistic cannibalism. It's for a good cause.
94:47You coined that, correct? Like that's not like a term people use.
94:50Altruistic cannibalism. I don't believe it. I don't think so.
94:53We waste a lot of food. I'm happy to give credit to whoever that was.
94:58Don Draper. Altruistic cannibalism. It's toasted. Altruistic. Altruistic. I do think that's an important qualifier.
95:02Well, yes, it's the whole, it really hinges on that word.
95:05Okay. We should end the episode, but I really want to tell you guys something about pirates.
95:10All right. Let's hear this pirates thing. Okay. Is this just a pirates fact?
95:14Oh, sorry. I thought you were trying to move on to talk about pirates of the Caribbean as a potential next movie
95:20to watch, but always talk about pirates of the Caribbean.
95:23Yeah. How do you guys feel about the fact that sometimes it's the Caribbean, but then other times it's the Caribbean.
95:29I do feel a certain way. Caribbean. Like, Oh, I'm going to the Caribbean.
95:33You would not say I'm going to the Caribbean.
95:36It's Caribbean for modern, like the Caribbean is like where white people go for vacations, but the Caribbean is for pirates.
95:42Right? Like the pirates of the Caribbean doesn't hit pirates.
95:45No. It's Jack Sparrow. But you're not, I went to the Caribbean last week.
95:49What technically is the Caribbean? Like, what does that all include?
95:52What are the islands that it includes? I don't know that.
95:55It's the light blue water by Florida. Sure. Sure.
95:58I don't know the definition of where it ends.
96:00It's like, I actually don't know where the Caribbean ends and the Atlantic ocean begins.
96:04It's a geopolitical region in the middle of the America centered around the Caribbean sea in the North Atlantic ocean, mostly overlapping with the West Indies.
96:12So. What? Do with that what you will. Okay.
96:15Tell me the islands in the West Indies go.
96:17The West Indies. Uh, like St. Croix Turks and Caicos.
96:20St. Martin is the, let's check. Is the Bahamas in the West Indies?
96:24I don't know. Isn't the West Indies. Cause Christopher Columbus thought it was fucking India.
96:28Yeah. We never like updated that name. It's really West of India.
96:31There's a, there's multiple Indies. I can't believe that.
96:34Wow. There's 18 dependencies and three archipelagos, the greater Antilles, the lesser Antilles and the Lucayan archipelago.
96:39Let's see. Which ones are they? This is worse than when we were like, what is the United, what is great Britain versus United kingdom?
96:46And we, and we didn't realize how like the definition of, do you remember that?
96:50Yeah. Like, I don't, like, I don't think any of us realized that the queen was on the money for Canada and
96:57Jamaica until the queen died and they changed it.
96:59And we were like, what the fuck? Do you remember that?
97:02Like, we were like, wait, are you kidding me?
97:05There's a lot of islands in the West Indies.
97:08We don't need to go through all of them.
97:10Cuba. Stuff has happened, man. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of stuff has happened.
97:14All right. What, what's give me the, what go.
97:16What's sorry. Sorry. Alex wrote in breakfast, four scrambled eggs, a quarter cup of egg whites.
97:21Wow. Two English muffins and a black coffee. He must lift.
97:24That's a lot of eggs. Yeah. Alex says last year, my girlfriend and I visited Nassau in the Bahamas and stopped by the pirate museum.
97:31Ooh. Of all the pirate facts they shared, one has always stuck with me.
97:35According to the pirate museum, there is only one documented case of a pirate actually making someone walk the plank.
97:41Wow. Okay. And Hollywood just turned this into a defining pirate stereotype.
97:45And it's really just from like treasure Island. Interesting.
97:47There's like three or four or five documented cases, but like most of them aren't even pirates.
97:52So it was, so it was less of a, maybe they were just tossing people overboard.
97:57No sacrificial ritual. It was just like fucking get out.
98:00Oh, I know what they did. No, they would maroon you.
98:03Oh, I learned all about this. They would remove, maroon you, which is kind of like pirates of the Caribbean.
98:08I'm simply going to leave him in some easily escapable situation and just simply assume everything went to plan.
98:14What? Oh, just shoot him. No, no. I just watched Austin powers.
98:17The first one for like the first time in probably 15 years.
98:21The original. Yeah. It's so good. Did you see Austin or Mike Myers said that a fourth one might happen?
98:26Really? I saw them get together, but I assumed that was for a commercial.
98:31It was for a commercial. And then while he was doing press for it, they asked him if a fourth of what happened.
98:37And I think he said like it's in the works or we're planning it or something.
98:42Wow. Nice. I feel like Austin powers single-handedly derailed James Bond.
98:45Oh yeah. But that's for another one. Anyway. So the other thing they do, if they didn't like you, it wasn't walk the plank.
98:52They would tie a rope around you, real tight, take your clothes off and throw you over the front of the ship,
98:58drag you under it where there's all these barnacles that are razor fucking sharp.
99:02And they would basically bleed you out, drown you underneath the ship and let you be cut by little barnacles underneath.
99:08Which seems worse. That's, that's less cinematic than walking the plank.
99:11That's not altruistic cannibalism. No, that's, that's a waste.
99:14Really? Turns out pirates were kind of dicks. Yeah, dude.
99:17Well, it's pirates. We could go into pirates, man.
99:19It's nuts. Anyway, they didn't really walk the plank.
99:22That's honestly really interesting. I did not know that.
99:24Yeah. Cinematic. Whole thing. Basically, they also, you were hostage.
99:27They'd like do something with you. Julius Caesar apparently was at one point held hostage by pirates.
99:32Yeah. And then he killed them all later. Yeah.
99:35Jokes on them. He, he told them, I want to say like, he was super confident.
99:39They kind of liked him. They're like, he's, he was like, I'm going to kill you later or something like that.
99:45How does in the first half? And then they ransomed him.
99:49And then he, when he came into power, he killed him.
99:52He captured him and killed him. I could, I could be making that up.
99:56That was off the top of the. It's crazy.
99:58Like when Thomas Jefferson was president, they were like the biggest problems pirates.
100:02Well, that was a dude. They, that was like the privateers.
100:05They just, the government hired a bunch of pirates to go disrupt British shipping.
100:09Crazy. So. It's like the cat. Disneyland. A lot of stuff has happened.
100:13Uh, okay. All right. We should probably have the episode.
100:16Um, by the way, I'm reading this book about, uh, Wyatt Earp.
100:19Did you know that at one point he was a pimp?
100:22Yo, what? No. I just learned that very early.
100:25We just didn't have enough people. He was a pimp in council bluffs, Iowa or something along those.
100:30Council bluffs, Iowa. Yeah. Him and his brother verge.
100:33They were just out there. They were, what about jug?
100:36Uh, Morgan verge. He had a couple other. Why?
100:38I actually don't know anything about white earp. I don't know anything about white earp.
100:42That's what I'm learning. I'm learning. I think it's called, the book is called ride the devil's herd.
100:48It's about his, uh, famous. I don't know what you call it.
100:51Vendetta against the Cowboys, which was just that gang that was featured in a tombstone.
100:55And he, it apparently it was like, they kind of glossed over it a little in the movie.
101:01They just made it into a montage, but he like went after these guys and killed a whole bunch of them.
101:07Uh, wild earp. Interesting fella. Uh, have you seen tombstone?
101:09No. Oh, come on. Great one. I'll watch tombstone.
101:12Adding it to the list. I would, I would put that high on the list.
101:16I'll switch. Google saying like tombstone. And then like the movie doesn't come up.
101:20He's like an idiot. How do you even like get by in life without knowing any of the tombstone quotes?
101:26I feel like that's one of the most quoted movies of all time.
101:30Like when people say I'm your huckleberry, do you even know what they're talking about?
101:34Nope. Just found that out. Just no. Come on.
101:37Oh, is that what she's talking about in a, the pit?
101:40She keeps calling them huckleberry. I don't know. Maybe.
101:42I don't know. No, I, I'm not going to lie.
101:45I probably saw these guys. I might've thought these motherfuckers are from Deadwood for all I know.
101:50Damn it. I'll watch it though. I've heard it.
101:53Wyatt Earp is my friend. You're a daisy. If you do, you were just too high strung.
101:58Cause I feel like the rewatchables, you guys just made fun of me for every other episode.
102:03There's a movie I haven't seen. And then I just played right into it.
102:07So there's that. We should play a game called when's the last time Heifetz saw the movie we did on the rewatchable.
102:13Go down the list. I saw it in theaters at the Arclight.
102:16Okay. King. Not bad. DK still, still do you say?
102:19No, I watched that. I saw that. All right.
102:22So not bad. You got like, we'll take it.
102:24You somehow saw the movie from the sixties before all these other ones.
102:28Yeah. Cause that one's great. No offense to whatever these other ones are.
102:32Can't argue with you there. Some of them are not bad.
102:35Some of them are bad. Oh, we're done. Okay.
102:38Yeah. Thank God. Yeah. Let's just stop it there.
102:40No, I think the rest of them, we were really cooking for a couple of months.
102:45And I mean, most of these, I would imagine you've seen Ghostbusters, something about Mary, Chomp and Thunder, Borat, Animal House, Kindergarten Cop, Basic Instinct.
102:52You know, you've seen probably most of them. Actually, yeah, I have seen.
102:56I was thrilled that the Kindergarten Cop episode started exactly with the best line from the movie, which is, it's not a tumor.
103:02It's not a tumor. Get to the chopper. Yes, it's not a tumor.
103:06That's probably from Predator. That's definitely not from Kindergarten Cop.
103:09I'm just thinking of my Schwarzenegger, like, movie quote generator back in the day.
103:13They used to do on like, what was that?
103:15What was that? Were they prank call people? I know what you're talking about, but what's that shitty, the Iceman movie he's
103:22in, where he's like, he's like, you know what killed the dinosaur?
103:25The Ice Age. Like, you know, what's that shitty movie he's in?
103:29You're talking about when he plays Mr. Freeze? Yeah, yeah, Mr.
103:32Freeze. What movie is that? Yeah, Batman. Mr. The Ice Age.
103:35My friends tonight were quite a lot. Dominic, get down.
103:38Dude, Dominic, get down. Dude, I saw him. Who is your daddy?
103:41A month ago. And what does he do? I want to see if I can find photos of this.
103:47I saw him driving around LA, I'm like a giant, like, convertible tank looking thing.
103:51You saw him with your own eyes? With my own eyes.
103:54Wow. I think you could do a little, there should be a history lesson for people like Craig and Ice Age on
104:00how exactly that man became the governor of California.
104:03I'm a guy, you idiot. The governator being a thing is insane.
104:06He got reelected. I know. We've had multiple wrestlers.
104:09They called him the governator. Multiple wrestlers in this country have become governors, by the way.
104:14It's so real. It's such a, it's such a funny, it's such a crazy thing.
104:18Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess Jesse Ventura, who else?
104:21Yeah. I mean, at least Jesse Ventura was like actually a Navy SEAL at one point.
104:25The, the documentary, I think it's on Netflix, of Arnold is actually pretty good.
104:29It's three parts and it's like part one is about his bodybuilding career.
104:33Part two is his Hollywood career and part three is political.
104:36It's not, it's pretty good. That's wild. Two of the main actors in Predator became state governors.
104:41At least. I don't, maybe there's more. Oh, someone I know watched Predator the other day.
104:45Predator is an incredible movie for young people to watch because there's a disproportionate legacy of like memes.
104:51Oh yeah. I mean, you have the Carl Weathers handshake.
104:54Yeah. My brother, you son of a bitch. Yes.
104:56Someone had never seen it and they're like, oh my God, it's the handshake thing.
105:00Dude, I, I love the movie Predator. It's probably one of the movies I've watched more in my life than any other movie.
105:07Wait, that's the one where it's like, you are one ugly motherfucker, right?
105:11That's also just, it's really good, man. There's just, it's such a, every moment of it is a cliche, but it's so fucking good.
105:18I don't know. It's a great time when movies were both bad and good at the same time.
105:23Dylan, you son of a bitch. Oh yeah, Dylan.
105:25You know, we talk about like, Brady has three different Hall of Fame careers in one career.
105:30Kind of Arnold, dude. Totally. Bodybuilder Arnold, Hollywood Arnold, political Arnold, all Hall of Fame careers.
105:35The photo, I remember, because I think the, I think the first doc the Ringer Films did was Andre the Giant and
105:41the photo of Andre the Giant and Arnold in the 80s or what, I don't know what year it was, was like,
105:47it's like, it's like Andre the Giant holding Arnold Schwarzenegger.
105:50It's like kind of one of the most crazy photos.
105:53You know what I'm talking about? Oh yeah, yeah.
105:56Andre the Giant was huge. Oh yeah, it's him and Wilt Chamberlain on the set of, oh God, what movie would that be?
106:02It's Wilt Chamberlain, Andre the Giant and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
106:05Oh my God, yeah, Arnold looks so short. It's crazy.
106:08How tall is he? Like six, six two? Oh man.
106:11It's crazy. All right. Should we end the show?
106:13We should probably end the show. Yeah. Okay. Well, I know we're not going to episodes this week, but in exchange, this episode went really long.
106:21So there we go. We'll go two episodes a week starting after the 4th of July, start unveiling the hot quarterback rankings.
106:27Email us, teach us hockey history. LeBron takes pirates, whatever.
106:30Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. You be mad at me for movies.
106:33I haven't seen. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig.
106:35Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Abu. Thank you, Austin.
106:38Thank you, Nikhil. Thank you everyone for listening. Thank you to everyone emailed in.
106:42Thank you, of course, to all seven of our female listeners who are going to undermine.
106:47All seven of you. Thank you. All seven for submitting the rankings.
106:50But of course, thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Wax Taylor.
106:53While we're on things, I don't know. Wow. I don't know who that is either.
106:57Look it up. I don't know a lot about him.
107:00I just have them on a bunch of playlists.
107:03They're like maybe early 2000s. Is he French? Why?
107:05Is that a picture of him? What is? Yeah.
107:08I don't know. Craig, are you going to say it?
107:11It's kind of like a hip hop electronic. He's got a big head.
107:15How dare you? How dare you, sir? I mean, I just, I don't know how to say it.
107:20Kind of like a really globish. It's really smooth, rounded head.
107:23Kind of perfectly. All right. All right. Looks nice.
107:26So he's bald. Okay. I mean, it's not the, no, that's not what we're saying at all.
107:30That is not what we are saying. Okay. I see pictures now.
107:34Yeah, that's what I thought. That's a head. It seems like a smart guy.
107:38Certainly not a way to get ahead in life.
107:40You did just watch. He did not keep one.
107:43That's not a time for someone to lose one's head.
107:46You go on like. So good. Elizabeth Hurley's like, all right, that's enough.
107:50Wax Taylor. Can you tell me anything? Is that what?
107:53Why did you pick it? I got nothing. I just like the music.
107:56All right. What is the music? I told you it's like electronic.
108:00Hip hop. DJ stuff. That's actually my favorite thing.
108:02It's good. You should listen to it. Is he like current?
108:05No, it was like mid early 2000s. Also my favorite thing.
108:09I think you would actually really like some of the music.
108:12No doubt. Are you going to defend it again?
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