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1:1532 teams. Yes. 32 earth shattering, potentially league winning fantasy football stats.
1:18Some of these today are going to focus on players, others on coaches, and maybe even one or two questions, Hayden, because
1:24some of these teams really still confuse me despite being, I don't know, five weeks until the regular season kicks off.
1:30Yeah. A lot of moving parts in terms of play callers this year.
1:34I try to take like the, either the most controversial player with the note on this, or maybe a player that we haven't talked about the entire summer.
1:42And that might not fit into some of these preseason training camp narrative.
1:45So a little bit of everything in this one.
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2:27I have AFC Hayden has the NFC. So you kick things off with back-to-back teams.
2:31Go ahead. Arizona Cardinals, Marvin Harrison Jr. Career 1.1% screen rate.
2:34I think that is important because that's the reason why he has not been paying off in fantasies.
2:39The wide receiver 42 on wide receiver 40 usage on a per game basis over his first two seasons.
2:45There are so many on-off splits, especially with the Kyler Murray stuff.
2:48One of them though, is he has led Michael Wilson in terms of targets in all 10 games this past season when they were together.
2:55And at the same time, Michael Wilson has talked about when he was balling out, it's because he was playing X receiver
3:01and that the offense was either going through the tight end or the X receiver, not the other stuff.
3:07I looked at the training camp footage. Marvin Harrison is continuing to play that X receiver role.
3:12He's got to catch the ball more in these training camp clips that I'm seeing.
3:16But I think the big thing to overcome what should be a probably a bottom 10 scoring offense and bottom 10 team
3:22this year is he's got to have at least some more gimme looks.
3:26The 1% screen rate is kind of like the obvious thing.
3:29More screens, more slant routes, some more like just like mesh concepts, shallow crosses, that type of stuff is how Marvin Harrison is going to pay off ADP.
3:37And if that doesn't change, I do fear there's just too much target competition in the offense.
3:42Yeah. For a guy that was a top five overall pick, there's just, I think too many flaws in his profile.
3:48I got to be honest. And it's not, you know, recency bias of watching the training camp clips against air dropping passes.
3:54He is not a manufacturer touch guy as you have highlighted.
3:57And then even during his rookie season, and this continues throughout his second season, contested grabs, he just doesn't win those often enough.
4:04And he won them a little bit more often when he bulked up and what went up to 220 pounds this past
4:10season, but still too often when a cornerback that is lighter and smaller goes through him, he loses that.
4:15His timing on back shoulders just isn't there. So while I do appreciate that now we get him and Jacob reset to at least open the season.
4:23Hey, and I think we're on the same page that Jacobi is not going to line up for 17 straight games and
4:29just throw the ball all across the yard. I think in that case, then Marv could pay off the seventh round price
4:35tag that he is on Yahoo as wide receiver 31.
4:38But it just kind of scares me that we don't know that for certain.
4:42And the dynamic might just get worse as the season goes along.
4:46A couple of training camp notes. Jacobi Bursette gets the raise that he deserves, but I don't think that means he's going to finish the season.
4:53Like you said, I do think after the bye week, given that strength of schedule, it could be Carson Beck.
4:59So there's a chance that Marvin Harrison's a wide receiver three up until that point.
5:03And then the offense like really kind of sputters.
5:05And then the other thing is they've been mentioning James Connor a lot when they've been talking about the running back room,
5:12which he's obviously been put pushed to the side because Jeremiah love and Tyler Algier will learn soon enough.
5:17If they're serious about that or if they're trying to trade him, I can see both of those narratives existing.
5:23But there is at least now a chance where James Connor is making this a three back committee, which obviously would terrify
5:29you if you're spending a two, three turn pick on Jeremiah love.
5:32We got to move on. We're not going to spend this much time on every single team, but I will say on
5:39the running back point, we talked about Jeremiah love with Ron Stewart when he was on the program earlier.
5:44And, you know, during breeze halls time with Michael floor during his rookie season, he did get up to running back seven
5:50in points per game when Michael floor was calling those plays.
5:53And that's a spite a slow start of 12, eight and 14 touches in the opening three contests.
5:58So I don't expect Jeremiah love to go out there and get 18 touches in the first game.
6:04That's just not, you know, Michael floor or how all rookie running backs are handled.
6:08Despite again, him being what the third overall pick this past year, but this is one that you need to have patience on.
6:14So I, I understand his price tag. I just also know that unless I'm drafting at the one, one, I probably won't
6:21end up with him because I'm already taking two running backs ahead of that.
6:24Next Atlanta Falcons. Drake London was the wide receiver five on wide receiver five usage from 2024 through week 11 of last year.
6:31That's a massive sample. He obviously had that PCL injury.
6:34One that we'll get to with Ricky Pierce. So it makes you a little bit nervous, but it sounds like he's back to normal.
6:41At least was able to finish the season late last year.
6:44Only Justin Jefferson and Jamar chase had a higher target share, which is almost at 30% over that huge multi-year sample size there.
6:50You look at it, you have Zachary branch and manufactured touch slot receiver, Jahan Dotson, who hasn't really done much.
6:56All the media is a key is that's it.
6:59Like Drake London does not get drafted next to Justin Jefferson and CD lamb at the end of round one.
7:04I'm not sure if he should just because it's the Falcons and not those two offenses.
7:09But in terms of targets, Drake London is matching all the first round wide receivers right now.
7:14And you can get him like usually pretty late into the second round.
7:17Now he is an interesting spot though, where in your redraft leagues, he's going in that pocket of Saquon Barkley, Devon Achan,
7:23Chase Brown, then it's Drake London, Amarin Hampton and Derek Henry.
7:27So, and Ken Walker a little bit later. So he's like the bookmark or the sandwich meat between all of those running backs.
7:33And that's a fascinating one because he's on an Island by himself.
7:37When we talk about these wide receivers, it is difficult for me to click his name.
7:41I'll be honest because of the quarterback play that's tied to him.
7:44It is too. It is Michael Penix. And while I like Kevin Stefanski so often with these play callers, they like quarterbacks
7:51that have the same style to what and Penix have like totally opposite styles here.
7:55One guy wants to throw it outside the numbers and down the field and Penix to it's mostly short and in the middle portion of the field.
8:03So that is also putting my brain in a blender here.
8:06I think it'll be too. He's dealing with a backup or a back injury right now.
8:10You'd never love to hear that, but Penix is like, seems like pretty behind.
8:14And this is the second or third time he's torn his ACL.
8:18So I think it's going to open up the year to, uh, we'll probably see both.
8:22I don't think the Falcons are going to be very good this year.
8:26Lots of turnover on the offensive line, defense, uh, coaching staff, you name it.
8:30I'm just not sure if they're ready. At the same time, this version of two is so different than the wide receiver
8:36one seasons that we got with Terry kill. Like his, his body is now working against him.
8:41So I want to keep that at the top of mind too.
8:44When thinking, oh, well, two has platformed some of the best wide receivers in fancy football.
8:49This to me is a totally different version of that.
8:52I do think, you know, all those like little quick hitting slants to the slot receiver.
8:56That's that fits Drake London's game pretty well. Okay.
8:59Let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens next and Zay flowers specifically.
9:02We always ask how a good fantasy asset can become a great fantasy asset.
9:06And for Zay flowers, who is an early fourth round pick in whatever platform that you use right now, that's about touchdowns.
9:12And the easiest pathway to scoring touchdowns are red zone targets.
9:15Just 10 red zone targets for Zay flowers this past season, 17 over the last two years.
9:20In fact, Olamide Zaccheaus, Drake London's teammate now who called him his mentor, by the way, had more red zone targets and
9:26red zone touchdowns than Zay flowers did last year.
9:29Zay has never scored more than six touchdowns in a season, despite being the wide receiver 13 and points per game in 2025.
9:35So we go from Todd Munkin, who you and I really like and love how he evolved this Ravens passing attack.
9:41And he's done that in multiple places with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Georgia and wherever else.
9:46He's very good at his job, but he consistently made Mark Andrews their go-to player in the red zone or Isaiah likely.
9:52So now we go to Declan Doyle and maybe this Hayden is like the time for the reset to happen to get Zay flowers.
9:59Finally double digit touchdowns, because if that happens, we're looking at a player who again is being drafted as the wide receiver
10:0517, who finished last year as the wide receiver 13 points per game as a possible top 10 wide receiver scoring season.
10:12And again, the glaring flaw in his profile to get there is so obvious that I think it's possible.
10:17I think it's possible as well. You just look around the league.
10:20There's some offenses that are scheming up some touches to undersized receivers.
10:24I think that largely explains why his target share is at 16% inside the red zone versus 28 outside the red zone over the last couple of seasons.
10:32But the yard, the yards are there. Wide receiver 13 in yards in the last two seasons when Lamar Jackson's thrown over
10:38five passes per game is literally just the touchdowns.
10:41We're running out of options to score those touchdowns at this point.
10:44That's with Derrick Henry healthy all those seasons. If something ever happens, Derrick Henry, obviously you just kind of scheme up some things.
10:50So I'm looking at like Rasheed Rice gets a bunch of targets down there.
10:54Like it doesn't have to be the biggest ball winner types.
10:58You can manufacture some touches. Olamutis is another good example of just that.
11:01And I even throw in Amon Ross St. Brown who Johnson coached and Declan Doyle just coached with Ben Johnson last year.
11:07And there is a size discrepancy there. I mean, what?
11:10Say flowers is five, nine, one 92. So again, there's a slight gap.
11:14But use some of that. You know, use some of the motion.
11:17Use some of the stacks. Use some of the quick moving routes in that condensed field versus, you know, the passing attack
11:24that they had in that area last year. And so again, just six touchdowns for a career high for say in the past, it's a much different universe.
11:32We're going into if he scores eight, 10, heck even 12 scores, because that automatically puts him in the top 10 and points per game.
11:39Next, the Buffalo bills. I'll talk wide receivers here again, Hayden, because ever since the bills trade away, Stefan digs, their highest
11:45scoring pass catcher in a single season was 9.6 points per game.
11:48And half PPR scoring that was wide receiver 41 per game.
11:51Khalil Shakir back in 2024. That's despite spending the 33rd overall pick on Keon Coleman, a first round pick on Don Kincaid,
11:58a third round pick on Amari Cooper. And so now if we're talking about their new quote unquote wide receiver one, that's DJ Moore, right?
12:05Being drafted as the wide receiver 26 on Yahoo, despite coming off the worst season of his career.
12:10And that's not an argument. I mean, over the last three years that's dropped down his yards per game from 80 to 57 down to 40 yards.
12:17Despite being in a Ben Johnson offense this past year.
12:20And so I'm a bit nervous of DJ Moore totally paying off this price.
12:24Like the high end outcomes are absolutely there and it can make me look like a fool.
12:29But over the last two years, this Buffalo Bills team has been 25th and 30th in dropback rate and 22nd and 30th in percent of yards via passing.
12:37So is DJ Moore good enough at this point in his career to change Joe Brady and to change that offense right
12:43now in the Buffalo Bills that, you know, scores a lot of points and wins a lot of games.
12:49I asked that question because I think I know my answer and it's not a great one.
12:54I think I have a little bit more optimism just because all those stats that you mentioned were because, you know, it's
13:00key on Coleman and Amari Cooper and Brandon cooks and those types.
13:03And the Khalil Shakir pass game could only get you so far just the way that he's utilized.
13:08I did. You're going to throw him the ball underneath.
13:11They have to make this thing work because of the investment that they put in.
13:15It was not just the draft capital. It was the extension beyond it.
13:19Some of it with DJ Moore always seems to be just like about motivation and buy in and stuff.
13:24You'd hope that he feels pretty comfortable with the Buffalo Bills.
13:28Josh Allen trying to win Super Bowls at this point and clearly being established as the top guy.
13:33So I didn't love the price tag the bills paid.
13:35Right. I am still kind of buying him in best ball and on Yahoo right now as a round five pick.
13:41I have like realistic boom bust expectations from him, but I would not be surprised if he looks a lot better, puts
13:48in more effort this year just because of the environment around him.
13:51Yeah, I guess my point is he's being drafted as if everyone is confident that they're going to change and he's going
13:57to change this passing attack just from a skill standpoint.
14:00I think it's, you know, very possible that we've seen the best of DJ Moore in his career and arguably that was with Joe Brady in Carolina.
14:08So maybe they do change and go back to some of that stuff.
14:11But again, he's going in this cluster of wide receivers.
14:14If we talk about Terry McLaurin and Luther Burton and Mike Evans and Roma Duns and Christian Watson, but I kind of
14:21just want to draft more than DJ Moore at this point.
14:24And I could be totally wrong on that end of the season and it could come back to buy me.
14:29Yeah, there's been huge hits, huge misses from wide receivers changing teams at this kind of age 30 season.
14:35I have him parked next to Mike Evans, Devante Adams, and then DJ Moore in my rankings.
14:40I feel that's pretty appropriate. Carolina Panthers. What's going on with Chuba Hubbard?
14:43Everyone's talking about Jonathan Brooks because he's coming back from the injury.
14:47Very exciting. He should be the pass catcher if he's fully healthy.
14:50He's on pace to be healthy in a week one contributor.
14:53And we know that that could be a full overtaking from Chuba Hubbard.
14:57But did want to mention this about Chuba. Back in 2024, he played 77% of the snaps.
15:02He was the RB12 on RB7 usage. He was the RB4 in rush yards over expected.
15:06Then last year, he gets hurt. Rico Dowdle goes in there and he really struggles coming back from injury.
15:12Negative 21% rush yards over expected, which is way worse than it was.
15:15Yes. And he just did not look the same.
15:18But in the last game of the season, a playoff game with the Carolina Panthers almost pulled off an upset.
15:23He finished with two touchdowns and 17 opportunities. He's been named a team captain at time.
15:28So this is one of these situations where I think both things could be true.
15:32That Jonathan Brooks does come on. He's a real asset here.
15:35And Chuba Hubbard stays involved as a rusher. To me, last season is largely explained by that injury.
15:41And people are really discounting what happened two seasons ago when he actually was healthy, was very efficient.
15:46And that team was not nearly as good. Now, every single day, I refresh Twitter and there's a Panthers injury right now.
15:52So you have some explaining to do on that front, exactly where we're at with the Carolina Panthers.
15:57But I do think that it's very easy to say Jonathan Brooks is going to overtake Chuba Hubbard.
16:02Chuba Hubbard's been playing pretty decent ball whenever healthy in this offense.
16:05I'm even looking at expert consensus rankings. In half PPR, Chuba Hubbard is the 30th overall back.
16:10And then Jonathan Brooks is 39. It'll flip, I think.
16:13I think it'll flip. And on Yahoo right now, I mean, they're still at least three rounds apart.
16:18So Yahoo, I think, is one of these platforms that you can get Jonathan Brooks at an awesome price.
16:24In the early 10th round is running back 37 compared to Chuba Hubbard's running back 27.
16:28But yeah, I mean, this is one of those trends that the longer Jonathan Brooks is healthy and the closer we get
16:34to week one, the more and more and higher and higher he's going to be selected.
16:39And it's not just fancy people saying that, Hayden.
16:41Cameron Wolfe, I guess now of ESPN and NFL Network, I don't even know how to refer to those people now.
16:47It's a quote. They believe he is not only going to form a one-two punch with Chuba Hubbard, but he is essentially
16:54going to be the lead in the backfield if he can stay healthy.
16:57I get it. Jonathan Brooks is an awesome talent.
17:00He was running back one in his class and was drafted as such.
17:04And the more cuts that he makes and the more impressions that he makes during preseason activities.
17:08I mean, this is the first preseason practice he's ever participated in.
17:12Yep. And then we're here. So I think I'm going to end up with more Jonathan Brooks, at least on Yahoo, than I am Chuba Hubbard.
17:19Yeah, I think that by the end of training camp, I think that Jonathan Brooks will be going ahead of Chuba Hubbard.
17:25And I think in week one, I'll be ranking Chuba Hubbard ahead of Jonathan Brooks.
17:30And we'll see how it plays out. Chicago Bears.
17:32Roma Dunze, he was the wide receiver 36 per game last year, dealt with an injury.
17:37But he was the wide receiver 18 in usage.
17:39He was the wide receiver 22 in targets per game.
17:42They just lost DJ Moore via trade. Roma Dunze, I think he's pretty good.
17:46The problem is Caleb Williams has missed him way too often.
17:49And then on these 50-50 passes, Roma Dunze has not either dragged his foot, has not caught the ball cleanly.
17:55I can't explain it. Their timing has just been a little bit off.
17:59But hopefully in the year three, this is where it gets fixed.
18:02And if it does get fixed on an efficiency basis, he already had wide receiver two numbers in fantasy via his usage.
18:08And there's a chance that he's not just a bad, inefficient player, that he's actually a good one.
18:13And that's, I think, one of the most underrated players in the Bears' offense this year is Roma Dunze.
18:19I still can't believe he goes so far behind Luther Burden.
18:22I do think that Roma Dunze has a good chance to matching or even surpassing Luther Burden this season.
18:27And, you know, we can only go off press conferences and what people say sometimes during the summer.
18:32And Roma Dunze's clip talking about his new normal.
18:35That impacts, you know, fantasy drafters. Again, we are scratching and clawing just to find a morsel of information that we think gives us an edge.
18:42Sometimes it works in our favor. And sometimes maybe like Malik neighbors, we get bad information earlier in the summer.
18:48But regarding Roma Dunze, like he has clarified that.
18:50He went in the microphone today and said, actually, I was just being honest.
18:54And I'm doing pretty good right now. I watched him.
18:57He looks good. Yes. If that's the case, I still think for his size, he is so fluid.
19:02The out patterns, the post routes, the corners, all that type of stuff.
19:06Now, is he a yards after catch demon like Luther Burden is in this offense?
19:10He's not. But at the same time, as we talked about with Harmon on Monday show, which hopefully you all watched and
19:17enjoyed, it's definitely in the realm of possibilities that Roma Dunze finishes at the wide receiver one in this team.
19:22And Hayden, I think you have it ranked that way heading into the year.
19:26Yeah. I did move him ahead of Luther Burden after sitting there and watching all of his targets and a lot of
19:32the Bears stuff from this last season. I mean, his upside would be a T Higgins adjacent type of player who we've
19:39been drafting at the 2-3 turn for a couple of seasons now.
19:42Yeah. I mean, he just has to be on the right end of variance where passes can't go off his fingertips.
19:48He just needs to catch the easy ones that he should have.
19:51And then, you know, Caleb just has to be more accurate on those more downfield passes when over the final eight games,
19:58when Odunze was also banged up, 27% of the passes and targets in his direction were deemed inaccurate.
20:03Now that can be up to the person that is charting those things, but I believe it pretty freaking high number just based off the eye tests.
20:10All right. Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals here.
20:13Look, this offense has been incredible when Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T Higgins have all been on the field.
20:19Hopefully that happens again this year, but it does feel like if you read between the lines on what Bengals coaches have
20:25said and what beat reporters have said this offseason, that they are going into this as if it is broken and they're
20:31trying to fix it, which is interesting because it doesn't feel broken and they really shouldn't change anything.
20:36This is what I mean. Okay. So far over the last three years, the Bengals have been 31st in under center percentage
20:42of passing plays and 30th in play action with Joe Burrow at quarterback.
20:46This then comes from their offensive coordinator pitcher. Quote, if you are looking at how are we going to be a really
20:52explosive offense, the data will suggest you have to go.
20:55So you have got to have a component of your offense that allows you to get under center and attack the defense.
21:01Truthfully, yeah, I believe in what those numbers say, and we're going to have to explore that part of our offense.
21:07We know from watching Hayden that Joe Burrow has not been comfortable with his eyes turn to the defense.
21:13He doesn't want to work from under center. He just wants to go shotgun over and over and over again.
21:18And so to me, that is noteworthy for a team that we are drafting four players in the top four rounds that
21:25has posted tons of production that it seems like they're trying to go into a land of discomfort rather than lean into
21:31what has been so successful in the past. I find it interesting.
21:34I don't really recall Joe Burrow ever doing that.
21:37And at the same time, I saw full faith that he'll be able to execute it.
21:41He's a smart guy. He understands football to a huge degree, and he's got two wide receivers that would be excellent on play action.
21:48So if they do sprinkle that in, I don't think that the results would be bad.
21:53So I'm kind of excited about it just to see, does that mean more T Higgins like deep shots?
21:58Sometimes it feels like that it comes and goes.
22:01Right when they entered the league and it was the single high days, wherever that safety was, they're just throwing the ball to the other side.
22:08Hopefully some of this play action opportunities, you kind of get more of those looks where that safety has a decision.
22:14Is it Jamar Chase side or the T Higgins side?
22:17And there's really no correct answer. Yeah, I can remember.
22:20And this might've been three years ago, like the opening game of the season against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
22:25And literally that first series, they tried to under center play action shots where Joe Burrow turned his head and he threw interceptions on both.
22:32And, you know, they wouldn't be this gun heavy if Joe Burrow didn't want to be this gun heavy.
22:37And so, I mean, again, the stats have just been simply incredible that on plays with Jamar Chase and T Higgins on
22:44the field the past two years, Joe Burrow has completed 72% of his passes for eight yards per pass attempt and a 7.3 touchdown rate.
22:51But again, it's like, Hey, what we're doing isn't good enough.
22:54It's not leading to enough wins, even if that was a defense thing.
22:57And they're trying to, again, kind of catch up to what the league trends are.
23:02And I kind of wonder, should they really do that?
23:05Because they are doing it apparently in training camp.
23:07Yeah, I will say, I think this is also a credit to the offensive line where they trust these guys under center
23:13to block it up for the third and fourth second.
23:16And I do think that there's some faith in that.
23:19Like Amarius Mims, for example, up and comer tackle prospect.
23:22If he's really good, then you can survive under play action, wait for plays to develop where before Joe Burrow didn't want to get hit.
23:29Rightfully so. He's been murdered and get the ball out quickly, where maybe now they have a little more trust across the board.
23:35Cleveland Browns. I got to be honest. It's tough to talk about the Cleveland Browns, but I'm going to do it on Yahoo right now.
23:43The second latest wide receiver one in drafts is Casey Concepcion.
23:46Okay. Just in terms of the first wide receiver selected for each team and then the second wide receiver selected each team.
23:52Denzel Boston is the third latest. I mean, Hey, you know this.
23:55Typically we obsess over rookies and especially rookie wide receivers and especially ones that were the 24th and 39th overall picks yet.
24:02No one wants them this year. And I totally get it.
24:05I totally get why. Apparently didn't. Apparently Deshaun Watson has looked horrible to start training camp.
24:09Maybe his poor off season has seemingly opened the door for George Sanders to come in and actually compete for the job.
24:15But like, when I look at this, I don't think Todd Monken can come into this offense and say, well, we're just going to play ball control.
24:23Run the football. Because I think there's a major impact of trading away miles Garrett.
24:27Even if you got Jared verse in return, that they're just not going to be able to play in as close of
24:34games as they did last year, where actually the defense only kept them close, but legitimately won them contests last year.
24:40So this team is going to have to throw the football much more often.
24:43Now that led to 32nd and completion rate last year, 31st and passing yards, 31st and yards per pass attempt and 30th and touchdown.
24:50So it might not be good, but I do think at least one of these rookies and they're quite different is going
24:57to get a decent sized volume share that their draft capital right now does not indicate.
25:01I really hope it's Casey Concepcion. That's how I would project it.
25:04He's safer in that you can manufacture touches for him.
25:07And we've seen, I think the ESPN reporter has mentioned, it's been end arounds.
25:11It's been screens. It's been a little bit of everything on top of the deep ball.
25:16I thought he was excellent in all those capacities.
25:18You can look at his special teams work, even on top of that.
25:22So if there's somebody that's like less reliant on their quarterback getting the ball, it does feel like it'd be Casey Concepcion
25:28where Denzel Boston, more of a red zone threat.
25:31How many red zone chances are we even get for the Cleveland Browns?
25:35I don't have that much faith in Denzel Boston this year.
25:38And like the other interesting one is Jerry Judy.
25:40We're talking about a, you know, a former first rounder who has 1200 yards.
25:44He's 27 years old and like nobody wants to draft him.
25:47Once again, like you said, I get it. But like, that's like another interesting name where like if we had any semblance
25:54of offensive line or quarterback play, I think a couple of these guys would be top 120 picks.
25:59We can't get any of them in there. Yeah.
26:01Like if Joe Flacco was the quarterback for this team this year, I guarantee you, you know, Casey Concepcion would be drafted much earlier than this.
26:09But again, I understand why he's not. And he's, I think going to be one of these players who probably is frustrating
26:15through the first few weeks and is maybe more of a late bloomer as the season goes along.
26:20Final question though. Maybe the approach is to bypass the six round tight end in six round is a pretty penny.
26:26When Harold Fannin's going around, Roman Dunze, Christian Watson, Carnell Tate, Caleb Williams, Kyle Pitts, all these guys.
26:31And if you want to take a shot at all on this offense, it is in Casey Concepcion or one of these other rookie wide receivers.
26:38The thing that shocked me the most on Yahoo ADP looking at this draft, the draft board is how early that second wave of tight ends goes.
26:46It's fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round on other formats.
26:49It's much later than that. My translation to that is, you know, Brock Bowers in round two is even looking better.
26:54If Harold Fannin goes round six, you know, just pay the premium on Brock Bowers.
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27:19Dallas Cowboys. All right. Javante Williams time. How good does he actually have to be to matter in fantasy?
27:25I think the answer to that is he doesn't even have to be very good.
27:29The Cowboys were second in neutral pace last year.
27:31They're projected for the six most points in 2026.
27:34Look, according to the betting markets, the entire coaching staff returns.
27:37The entire offensive line is back. It's still George Pickens and CD lamb and Dak Prescott.
27:42Like nothing's changed. It's the same backup running backs behind him.
27:45By the way, the guy that has the highest odds of breaking out.
27:48Is Jaden blue, who is very undersized. A pass catcher.
27:51Never was an early down threat. Even back in college, way tinier than Javante Williams.
27:55And at the goal line last year, a goal line success rate.
27:59RB one overall for Javante Williams in EPA per carry.
28:02He was the RB three among backs with 10 plus carries per game as well.
28:06The reason why he was not a better finisher is because his receiving numbers were like the worst in the NFL.
28:12Maybe that regresses. Maybe some of the goal line stuff comes back.
28:15But where he's going right now in drafts, which is now like the fourth round in a lot of leagues.
28:21Second in pace, six in scoring. Like he just has to be out there.
28:25I don't think that Jaden blue is a real threat to where he got you the fantasy points, which was just scoring
28:31a bunch of touchdowns and carrying the ball 14 times again.
28:34I guess my question to you is if you're spending a top three round pick on Javante Williams, which right now he's
28:41even going ahead of Brees Hall over the last few days on Yahoo.
28:44Do you think Javante has it in him right now, both from an individual standpoint and maybe even more so from an
28:50individual standpoint to be like a big win, a big win player?
28:54Because I think I have more concerns about that than you do.
28:57So he was the RB eight and expected points RB 13 and points last year.
29:02I think that he's probably in that he finishes the RB 10 this season.
29:05I will say that doesn't sound that sexy. Getting the RB 10 at the round three, four turn like is a pretty big win.
29:12Like a lot of those wide receivers we like there are going to bust.
29:16Yeah, but at the same time, we've seen Malik neighbors like score as a top 10 wide receiver.
29:21We've seen T Higgins score as the wide receiver four in points per game.
29:25Do not take either of them. Yes, do not take Javante over either of those guys.
29:30Malik neighbors should go at the end of the second round at this point.
29:34But I think a lot of people are gonna start touting him as a really bad pick.
29:39He's gonna go in the fourth round. And I'm just looking at this.
29:42I'm like, somebody has to overtake him to be a dead zone running back when you're on a team that's going to
29:49be top five in plays and top five in points.
29:51Yeah, I would not call him a dead zone player.
29:54I just I kind of would call him a small win player, like owning 82.4% of the offensive snaps inside the 10 yard line last year.
30:02It's about the same just overall in terms of snaps.
30:04And then you finish is what the running back 13 points per game.
30:08He can finish as the running back 12. I think this year, but you're drafting was the running back 16.
30:14It was also on my radar. And maybe this changes this year where they would take Javante out in pure past situations for like Hunter Lipke.
30:21Yeah, that was probably because, you know, he's playing every other snap in the game because they couldn't get blue on the field.
30:28By the way, Jaden blue is gonna look really good in July every single year.
30:32He's doing awesome in July. Okay, next up for me is the Denver Broncos.
30:36Let's stick on this running back train. Big question, Hayden.
30:39What if this is the year that J.K. Dobbins stays healthy?
30:42What if what if in Sean Payton's entire time as head coach?
30:45This is one of my favorite stats ever with the Saints with the Broncos.
30:49No single running back has ever hit 250 carries.
30:52And we're talking about big ones, right? Anywhere from Mark Ingram to Reggie Bush to Alvin Kamara to whoever he's had.
30:58Javante Williams at the Denver Broncos, who no running back has ever individually hit 250 50 carries.
31:03But guess what? Of course, J.K. Dobbins was on pace for that last year.
31:07Now you can say J.K. Dobbins is on pace for a lot of things during his career, a career year, every single year.
31:13And it just doesn't happen because a dude can't stay on the field.
31:17I mean, he's missed 54 games in five seasons.
31:19He's missed at least four games in every single season that he's played.
31:23But man, when he touched grass last year, he was averaging the seventh best yards per carry.
31:28He was fifth in explosive run rate. He was 16th in yards after contact and was quite good at avoiding negative runs.
31:34And the first stanza of the season, 15 carries per game.
31:37Look, I get it again. He's not going to stay healthy.
31:40He's not going to be out there. But where he is going right now, running back 35 on Yahoo.
31:46Hey, and we talk about strategy all the time, how we'd like to open with two straight running backs.
31:51But let's say you go with Brock Bowers and then somehow A.J.
31:54Brown falls to you in round three. And you're finding yourself in kind of no man's land with your roster at running back.
32:01I think in terms of a zero or hero running back strategy, J.K.
32:05Dobbins, where he's going on all these platforms at this moment, is one of your best bets for at least the first half of the season.
32:12Yeah. On pace for 1,312 rushing yards by himself last year.
32:15That was through 10 weeks. Like that wasn't like a small sample.
32:1910 weeks, a pretty good sample. The offensive line is all back.
32:22They had some backups that played last year on the interior.
32:25Those guys are back in the mix. There's a better depth there.
32:29I think the Broncos are going to put up a shit ton of points.
32:32Like you add Jalen Waddle. This offense has already been pretty functional with a very young or not.
32:38I shouldn't say young NFL inexperienced quarterback in Bo Nix there.
32:41J.K. Dobbins, if he stays healthy, will finish his RB2 this year.
32:44And I think even if he plays 10 games like where what he just did last season, I still think he would be paying off this price tag.
32:52You don't take zeros for the rest of those weeks in redraft.
32:55You throw somebody else in the lineup. I do like him straight up over R.J.
33:00Harvey at this point. Now, I said all those things where he ranked top 10, top 15 in per carry metrics.
33:06That still only put him as the running back 25 in points per game.
33:10And he had zero weeks inside of the top 10.
33:12And it's because he just doesn't catch passes. It's what you said, right?
33:16Like R.J. Harvey was the pass catcher. They also do the screen stuff last year with Marvin Mims.
33:21And dear Lord, I hope that goes to Jalen Waddle this season.
33:25And Jonah Coleman also can work in the passing game, too.
33:28So I don't expect that area to thrive anymore.
33:30But again, a zero running back approach or here running back approach running back 35 on Yahoo right now in the ninth
33:37round is one that I'm willing to take the risk on.
33:40Yeah, I think like week one rankings, like he'll be pretty close to Quinshot Judkins, Bucky Irving, you know, those type of guys.
33:46Like, I think that's probably in the redraft rankings week one.
33:49That's probably where he's going to line up as.
33:52Yeah, you know, two years ago, I was really in when J.K.
33:55Dobbins was a charger. And again, he paid off very early on and until he didn't until he did.
34:01But he paid off. But like he paid off like he paid.
34:04Even if you get injured, you can still you can still pay off if the ADP is low enough.
34:09You know, writing this Denver Broncos nugget. I realized maybe on this show we haven't talked enough about Jalen Waddle.
34:15We're on every other show that we appear on together.
34:18We talk about Jalen Waddle. So maybe I need to change that in the near future, because Jalen Waddle is absolutely one
34:24of my favorite picks on the board right now.
34:27Yeah. Yeah. If you know, if Marvin Mims and those guys are getting more than a screen per game, I think Jalen
34:33Waddle is going to do all right. Detroit Lions.
34:36All right. Sam Laporta was the tight end 15 and expected half PPR points last year.
34:405.4 targets per game. That was through 10 games, then had his back injury.
34:44He needs more volume than that to pay off this ADP.
34:47But damn, is he good? He was second in success rate, fourth in EPA per target, fifth in yards per target.
34:53He's somebody that you can scheme up underneath. He can also threaten to that next level.
34:58And if you just look at the Lions, tons of dome games.
35:01Every other team in this division is going to put up points.
35:04Their schedule, it looks pretty tough in terms of the offenses they face.
35:08But their own defense is really bad. If something ever happens to anybody else, there is an upside path.
35:14Just the back of my mind, you're drafting somebody as the tight end 5, 6, 7.
35:18And in the expected points last year, he was tied in 15.
35:21So he has to overcome that in Subway. I think there's enough outs to paint that picture.
35:26So I really like his price tag in the best ball streets.
35:30The Yahoo one's a little bit up just because all the tight ends are priced up.
35:34But he does look pretty appealing. Him versus Harold Fannin, I think that there's an upside case to kind of hit with
35:40Sam Laporta, even if the baseline outcome's a little bit lower.
35:44Yeah, we went on Yahoo Fantasy Forecast's Harmon Show.
35:46And again, I probably haven't said this enough on our program.
35:49I'm in love with Sam Laporta this year. Like, when you look at the three quarterbacks who have targeted tight ends at
35:55the highest rate over the last three seasons, two of them played for Drew Petsing and one of them played for Kevin Stefanski.
36:02That's Jacoby, Kyler, and Shador Sanders at 34% and 32%.
36:05So yeah, you guys can say that that's a Trey McBride stat or that's a Harold Fannin stat, even a David and
36:11Joku stat before that and all that type of stuff.
36:14I also think it's a Norv Turner, Kevin Stefanski, Drew Petsing coaching tree stat.
36:18And so while Amon Ross St. Brown is absolutely going to get his and be the person in this passing game, and
36:24Jamison Williams and Sam Laporta, Hayden, I really think they're going to battle here for the second highest target in this offense.
36:30And again, just anecdotally, when it's been a really good Sam Laporta week, it hasn't been great for Jamison Williams and vice versa.
36:37So I'm really intrigued to see what happens here with Laporta in an offense that we just saw.
36:42Take Trey McBride to the absolute moon. The other name I'll throw out, we never talk about Jared Goff in fantasy.
36:48He has finished as a top 10 fantasy quarterback.
36:51And this is the type of year where the defense has fallen apart to such a degree in the secondary.
36:56And right now, Laporta, Jamo, Amon Ross having normal off seasons, normal training camps moving forward.
37:01This could be the season where Jared Goff throws for 4,500 yards, 40 touchdowns, and every single game is a 30 to
37:0728 shootout where the answer was yes, across the board with everybody.
37:10And one more note, this trend of heavier personnel and 13 personnel sets.
37:14Drew Petsing was earlier than Sean McVay on this.
37:17I mean, he has the third most plays of 13 personnel over the last two seasons, including the second most passing plays
37:23and tied for the most 15 plus yard passing plays out of it with 28 of them.
37:28And if that's the case, and Amon Ross St.
37:30Brown is the ISO wide receiver, guess who is the other lead pass catcher in those moments with those explosives?
37:36That is Sam Laporta. So just talk with Colton McCoy when I used to do a show with him.
37:41He spent a training camp with Drew and was like, yeah, the primary read and a whole bunch of our stuff is the tight end.
37:48Interesting. That's follow Colt. Follow Colt. Next, the Green Bay Packers.
37:51Pretty similar notes to Sam Laporta. Tucker Craft was the tight end one on tight end eight usage last year.
37:57Some really crazy per routes stats coming your way.
38:00Plus 0.91 EPA per target easily, like not even close, led all tight ends.
38:04It's almost impossible to average 11.4 yards per target when your average depth of target is at 4.5.
38:09Like that is a lot of yards after the catch.
38:12And that's because he's so explosive. Typically, when wider or when tight ends are in that kind of underneath role, which Tucker
38:18Craft historically kind of has been in, you can only average about nine yards per target.
38:22The fact that he was at 11 yards per target is completely ludicrous to the point that that's impossible to repeat this year.
38:29But at the same time, the only players that do such a thing are some of the freakiest tight ends in the NFL.
38:35So I'm struggling with Tucker Craft because of like stats like this where you can explain the upside.
38:41And at the same time, I'm looking at a negative regression candidate coming off a torn ACL.
38:45But the guys that historically come off torn ACL and end up doing all right are the freak athletes in the prime of their careers.
38:52That was what we saw with Malik neighbors this offseason.
38:55I do think that Tucker Craft seems on pace.
38:58So I'm very conflicted here what to do with them because I can see this one going either way.
39:03He's the closest thing we have to George Kittle in the NFL.
39:07I think in terms of someone who catches a pass short or intermediate and then just runs over people after the catch.
39:13Yep. I mean, how he wins in this offense with so many vertical routes and then he's kind of like the underneath
39:19outlet and then he can turn a short reception into a longer gain because these defenders can't tackle him on first contact
39:25is one of one stuff in the league. I hope he still has that in him.
39:30And like you said, this is that difficult area where you and I just want to draft Brock Bowers as much as possible this year.
39:37I'm actually fading Trey McBride, especially at his 212 price tag on Yahoo.
39:41That's a conversation for another time. And then you get and I'm going to talk about Tyler Warren here in a moment.
39:47And then we just talked about Sam Laporta and then there's Kyle Pitts and all this stuff.
39:52So it's, I think, really difficult to rank Tucker Craft, especially if you believe that George Kittle can also have a good
39:58season and he might be even the best value going in like the ninth round at this point too.
40:03Yeah, it's a really difficult position. I think I do like the prices of Loveland and Bowers the most.
40:09I like Kyle Pitts a lot. But yeah, Tucker Craft, I will say this.
40:13Watching him out there, he's not wearing some big bulky knee brace.
40:16Like a lot of these guys coming back from injury, like Ricky Pearsall, for example, like he was still wearing stuff on his knee.
40:23Tucker Craft right there, as he's like warming up and doing some individual drills, he does not look like somebody coming off
40:29a torn ACL where you're like, what the hell is even on his leg?
40:33He seems like a little bit ahead of schedule.
40:36And at the same time, his injury did happen a clean halfway through the season.
40:40So I would not be surprised if September's a little bit of a ramp up.
40:44And then from that point forward, he's back as a fringe top five guy.
40:48Yeah, Tucker Craft recently said that he will probably come off active pop list very soon.
40:53Let's go. Very soon. So that would be great.
40:55Next is the Houston Texans. So a section of our video with Ryan Paganetti got cut out, but I think this is
41:01the perfect opportunity to bring it up. That in the 19 games that Nick Cayley has been a play caller in the
41:08NFL, his ball carriers rank dead last in explosive run rate and fifth worst in terms of dead run rate, which is
41:14just a runner gets zero or fewer yards in that area.
41:17There's a lot to unpack here with both those stats.
41:20So I'll try to do it first, the sample size, right?
41:23It's very small. It's just 19 games. Okay. Second, you can also argue that that's an offensive line stat, which the Texans tried to remedy this offseason.
41:31They have a new starting left guard, a new starting center, a new starting right tackle.
41:35You know, their left tackles now into year two, so on and so forth.
41:39They also added a run blocking tight end and Marlon Klein on day two and also the running back last year were Nick Chubb and Woody Marks.
41:47So take for that what you will. But I do want to use that to express maybe just a little bit of
41:53hesitation here with David Montgomery, because the number one selling point on David Montgomery is volume, volume, volume.
41:58And that's it. It's not age. It's not really explosiveness.
42:01You can't say it's the play caller. You can't say it's a cohesive offensive line either.
42:06And so right now you're having to make that leap of faith with David Montgomery as a fifth round pick on Yahoo
42:12in, you know, an area of the draft where we love the tight ends.
42:16We love the quarterbacks. We we love the wide receivers on top of it.
42:20So right now I'm kind of terming Dave Montgomery is kind of a desperation running back play and a volume based.
42:26And Hayden, that just has screamed running back dead zone in the past.
42:29It really has. The Lions last year scored 28 points per game.
42:33The Texans this year projected for 23 and they have not been hitting 23 the last couple of seasons as well.
42:39You mentioned it. They have an entirely like new offensive line, but it's also like Wyatt Teller, who's like on the fringe retirement.
42:45Caitlin Rutledge, a center center moving to center as a rookie.
42:48Ed Ingram, like we can be honest about what Ed Ingram is.
42:52And then Braden Smith, like kind of up and down because of injuries.
42:55Uh, that's the offensive line. Like, like that's like the new additions that they got going on.
43:00It's like not an answered position, even if they're like, uh, switching those guys around.
43:04And then we've had like some weird comments from like different, uh, reporters about like Woody Marks is going to split reps.
43:11What does that mean? They're trying to define what split reps means.
43:14I think it's gonna be David Montgomery and early downs, Woody Marks and passing downs.
43:18And then if Woody Marks isn't performing or if, uh, David Montgomery is not performing well as a rusher, then they'll just
43:25give, um, more work towards Woody Marks. I draft a lot more Woody Marks than I do David Montgomery.
43:30And I don't even like what I've seen from Woody Marks on tape.
43:34Yeah. Typically you wouldn't use the word fragile profile with David Montgomery because you know, he's sturdy and dependable, but I'm kind
43:40of looking at this as a fragile profile and I don't think people are viewing it in, in that way.
43:46Are we supposed to count the college carries you get for, you know, like tread on the tires?
43:51Cause this dude touched the ball at Iowa state a bajillion times on top of that.
43:55So he's one of these guys where it's like, at some point it's going to fall apart.
44:00And look, the Texans could be one of the best teams in the NFL.
44:04You know, it, it, that is the case. Like their defense is top one, top two, top three, argue with yourself.
44:10And then if CJ Stroud bounces back, uh, after his playoff performances, we get Nico Collins and maybe some version of taking
44:16Dell and all that type of stuff, then this could be awesome.
44:20But if not, then like, as you said, Woody Marks is going to take a whole bunch of the passing role work from Dave Montgomery.
44:27And that leads you into, I think some tricky scenarios that is not kind of being baked in to his profile right now.
44:33I like, are you with yourself? That was a good one.
44:36Indianapolis Colts. Here it is. There aren't many opportunities for me to talk about my guy, Tyler Warren.
44:41So I'm going to take this as another one.
44:44Um, I think he is easily the biggest beneficiary of Michael Pittman jr's departure.
44:48Even if so many people out there think Josh Downs is, uh, the Colts were top six in RPOs last year.
44:54I think Michael Pittman was also top six in RPO targets.
44:57Who are those going to? They're going to Tyler Warren.
45:00I mean, he was there tight in three last year in route participation overall last season as a rookie.
45:05That's not going down. He had the 11th highest rate of red zone target market share for his team among all wide
45:12receivers and tight ends across the league. I don't think that's going down.
45:15I think you can argue he's also their best screen receiver at this point.
45:19You get the bluff blocks, the split flow action work to get the easy receptions out in space off of play action.
45:25So yes, it's definitely a big three at tight end with Brock Bowers and Shane McBride and Colson Loveland.
45:31But I would argue that Tyler Warren is in his own tier directly after that.
45:35And he might be, especially with Alec Pearson. We don't know exactly the timeline of him coming out and coming back from his injury.
45:42Um, he might be like the focal point of the passing game for a handful of weeks to open the season.
45:48I think he's the clear tight end for I would put him in his own tier kind of right after there.
45:54I think that Colson Loveland's like a little bit better on film, but that's nothing like going against Tyler Warren and like
46:00his own potential 13 games with Daniel Jones healthy last year.
46:03Tight end six on tight end three usage. His expected points were right in line with Brock Bowers.
46:08Uh, and those Daniel Jones games. If Daniel Jones isn't himself, what would you do as a play caller?
46:14Probably get the ball a little bit quicker. Uh, that's exactly what Tyler Warren bringing to the table.
46:19We talked about like the tush push stuff. Like he's somebody that can kind of get involved there.
46:24Like, do you want your quarterback tush pushing coming off of torn Achilles?
46:28That's how you tear your Achilles. Yeah. I mean, if we talk about absolute upside and God forbid something happens to Jonathan
46:34Taylor, uh, their goal line back is going to be Tyler Warren.
46:37Probably. It's not DJ Giddens. Yeah. There's, there's a lot of outs is what you're saying here.
46:42There's a lot of outs and, uh, I'm with you.
46:45Like the fluidity, the wide receiver stuff that Colson Loveland brings the table.
46:48Yeah. Aesthetically, that's so much better, but guess what?
46:51You have a juggernaut running through walls in Tyler Warren.
46:54And, uh, I think Shane Sykin loves to script script up and scheme him up touches.
46:58And he's going to do that. I think a lot to open the season with his quarterback and number one wide receiver, uh, coming off major injury.
47:06Yeah. I got ranked in the sixties and like that whole Tucker craft Laporta fan.
47:10And then those are like eighties and nineties in my ranking.
47:13So I think there's a pretty big gap between the two.
47:17And then on Yahoo, they're all sandwiched together. I would rather just go with Warren Jacksonville Jaguars.
47:21Uh, we've talked at length about this wide receiver room.
47:24So I won't bore you with another conversation of that.
47:27So let's talk about the running backs, Liam Cohen.
47:30And I'll send this to producer we've so he can maybe splice up the interview halfway through what I'm going to say,
47:36uh, but was just asked about this running back room.
47:39And he said, quote, I think too, and is going to continue to ascend.
47:43Hopefully that's the goal, right? I've worked with Chris.
47:45I know what he's about. I know what he brings to the table and that's efficiency.
47:50What we're hunting up is efficiency, right? Four, six, eight, 10, four, six, eight, 10.
47:54And then our fourth quarter. Now you maybe get them and you can hit something.
47:58So we lose Travis HN. So we have to evolve a running game.
48:02There's a lot to unpack there. Hey, personally, this idea that creating explosives and we just want to hit like singles and doubles.
48:08I kind of think that's aiming a bit too low, like really low.
48:12Um, next part with that said in a small sample, facial tootin was efficient last season.
48:17Okay. He was 12th in rate of runs that ended in a first down or a touchdown and then was eighth in success rate.
48:23However, if you expand the spreadsheets, Chris Rodriguez was even better in those metrics, right?
48:28He was fourth and first downs or touchdown rate third and success rate and eighth in yards after contact.
48:33So if you really want to interpret everything that he said and the relationships that he had, then that would make you
48:39want to draft Chris Rodriguez, who by the way, just said quote, the plan is to be back for week one.
48:45He's been doing individual drills after an all season procedure on his foot.
48:49Um, but it's all a bit like ambiguous right now.
48:52And I'm not sure we're going to have like a real full answer in week one.
48:56I listened to that quote. So, and when he described Chris Rodriguez as efficient and then said, we're looking for efficiency.
49:02I was like, I'm going to write that one down.
49:05That seems pretty important. Using the same word called him a glass eater as well.
49:09They also have history because of the Kentucky days.
49:12He was paid more than anyone expected. I remember the free agency period where it came across and then we saw the numbers afterwards.
49:19We're like, wow, like he's actually going to be involved.
49:22There's a lot of upside with both these guys.
49:24To me, every Liam Cohen rusher is going to have high efficiency because Liam Cohen's the man designing it.
49:30So I give Basial Tootin some credit and I think the breakaway run rate, if you look at the film with him,
49:36I mean, how many times was he this far away from ripping off an explosive and he got tripped up?
49:41I don't know how to explain that. Yes. And there's other times where Basial Tootin, like he's literally running the wrong way.
49:48Like, like legitimately the offensive line is going that way.
49:51He's going that way. You never get any of that with Chris Rodriguez.
49:54I think Liam Cohen's going to have to decide how much of the variance are we willing to accept with Basial Tootin
50:00because I can just consistently hit a single and a double with Chris Rodriguez.
50:04Right. This is an impossible one to get right.
50:07I personally have been drafting plenty of Chris Rodriguez buying the dip on the injury.
50:11That's another narrative is like offseason injuries because we're so obsessed and online and, you know, streaming and whatnot.
50:17I fear that maybe all these like June injuries were like making a big deal.
50:21And then like, you know, you don't get any fancy points in August and then they're back on the field on August
50:2715th and we're like, all right, why did we drop him four rounds again?
50:31And I do feel that Chris Rodriguez could be somebody that closes the gap here in the next couple of weeks.
50:37Yeah. I mean, Chris Rodriguez value right now is the lowest it's going to be at the end of the 12th round.
50:43Despite all of that quote, I'm still drafting a lot of Basial Tootin.
50:47I still believe he is going to get a chance to show the efficiency early on in the season because if he
50:53is both efficient, he is also more explosive and like that's the best of both worlds.
50:58And so in my mind, I believe that Basial Tootin is going to get the first crack at this and it won't just be like in week one.
51:06Hopefully it's like a multi-week thing and he has to fail in order for that to happen.
51:10And I just trust again, this ecosystem to kind of prevent him from failing unless it's him just again tripping over his feet too often.
51:18I will say the margins are really small because LaQuinn Allen's going to play all the passing situations.
51:23Not that Tootin can't catch passes, but like that third down roll where you're just accumulating receptions throughout the season.
51:28Like he's that's not that's not up for grabs.
51:31It's like these guys are trying to get the first and second day on touches only.
51:35Kansas City Chiefs. Let's talk about Travis Kelsey. I don't think a single fantasy show is going to talk about Travis Kelsey this entire summer.
51:43So why not use this opportunity? Not long ago, we were drafting him in the top two rounds.
51:48You remember that? Now he's the tight end 10 91st overall on Yahoo right now.
51:52He'll be 37 years of age in October, even older than me.
51:55Wow. He was the tight end eight in points per game last season.
51:59And again, you're drafting him as a tight end 10.
52:02So easy question. Is it over for big trap?
52:04I mean, it might be. It really might be.
52:07He was targeted on a career low 18.8% of his routes last year.
52:11His first season below the 20% mark. According to my buddy, Rich Rebar, he's been below 1.5 yards per route run in each of the last two years.
52:19He's this is the most notable to scored five or fewer touchdowns in three consecutive seasons.
52:23You know this we've, we've talked about enough, but I have this theory that both Travis Kelsey and rushy rice can't be
52:29good at the same time because they overlap in the same exact area of the field.
52:34And I think it's kind of bore out here.
52:36It's like zone and underneath routes. And guess what?
52:39Where she rice is younger, faster, more athletic at this point.
52:42So I think it's even possible that chiefs run the ball even more.
52:46So Travis Kelsey has now found himself again, nearly at age 37 firmly in the touchdown variance tight end realm versus being
52:52one of the most dependable target and opportunity guys in fantasy football.
52:55He got home and like full PPR last year, but I think that was just like circumstances completely breaking his way.
53:01Like both Xavier worthy and rushy rice. But like you said, since 2024, 19% target rate for Travis Kelsey in the games
53:08with for she rice, uh, only four receptions in those games.
53:11And that's with like Xavier worthy, not being himself for a lot of those as well.
53:15And like you said, Kenneth Walker being, uh, I think it's going to be the focal point is actually going to like
53:21change how the chiefs approach offense, where I can see them being more middle of the pack in pass rate where historically
53:28they've been like first, second or third. I think those days are a little bit behind us, especially with trap with Patrick
53:34homes coming off of a torn ACL. So like even like Mark Andrews, I would rather just play.
53:39He scores 12 touchdowns. He's a red zone threat.
53:42And there's like nobody else to throw the ball to with Lamar Jackson, rather than like signing up for this, you know,
53:48I think fake like reception volume role that we're used to.
53:51Yeah. Maybe this is taking it a step too far, but you know, coming off an injury of Patrick homes can't elongate
53:57place as much as he did previously too. And Travis Kelsey was a demon in those elongated plays and staying on a
54:03string of this quarterback that probably affects his like, sure.
54:06Touchdown variance can go completely in his way. Like he did with Mark, Mark Andrews a couple of years ago when he
54:13gets, you know, 12 red zone targets and that equals 10 red zone touchdowns.
54:16Uh, that's just kind of not the tight end world I want to live in at this point.
54:22Yeah, I agree. I agree. Okay. I've got two more in a row here.
54:26Las Vegas Raiders. We've talked a lot about this Raiders team lately.
54:29There's not a lot to say about them because you know, the names are pretty obvious.
54:34Brock Bowers, Ashen Gentey and Jalen Naylor. I did just want to reiterate the study that you brought up on yesterday's show
54:40when we talked about our top 15 players from fancy football by Sam Hoppin, um, about yards before contact and how so
54:46often we just attribute that to a poor rushing environment.
54:49Um, Sam did some really great work and tried to narrow it down to just isolating which running backs contributed worst to the yards before contact.
54:56And Ashen Gentey literally scored out as the worst in that department, um, that he had just as much responsibility for the
55:02lowest yards before contact as, you know, arguably the worst offensive line in the league.
55:07Now my eyes can kind of tell a different story at times where like he was hit six yards in the backfield
55:13and then convert it to like a negative two yard run and all that type of stuff.
55:18But, uh, that is not where you want to be entering year two and where everyone's taking you with the top 12 overall slot.
55:25Dead last, never a good, good sign. And that's like accounting for a lot of things like which gap you're going in,
55:31how many defenders are in the box, how good the offensive line is.
55:34If there's a dual threat quarterback in the backfield, like all the things that we know that help you out in terms
55:41of getting to the first and second level cleanly, he accounts for all that.
55:45And he comes up dead last when we did our, our second year running backs show.
55:49I brought this up without knowing this, this information where I thought he was a little bit indecisive paired with not having
55:55the same foot quickness that I'm used to for running backs drafted in this range.
56:00I think those two things kind of running parallel would explain why he's also getting hit before or not picking that many
56:06yards before he's being hit just because he's pretty slow to get through that first hole.
56:10I'm expecting things to get a little bit better, better coaching, better offensive line, more experience, but, um, it's a pretty big leap that you have to take.
56:18Yes. And that's why I actually rank him, I think as a 17th overall player this year and take a whole bunch
56:25of these running backs ahead of him, which is like very different than how people are drafting him right now.
56:30Hey, and he did say he stopped eating sugar this off season to get in better shape and improve his cardio quote.
56:37I didn't feel like I was in good enough shape last year.
56:40Does that change your mindset at all? Um, I'm glad he's doing that.
56:44Uh, he's yeah. He touched the ball a lot at Boise.
56:47You say it's that rookie season probably was one from hell.
56:50Like you don't get any off season time at all.
56:53So he, he has to play better. I'm expecting him to play better.
56:56And still he has to play a lot better for him to pay off of these, uh, first rounder right now.
57:02Los Angeles chargers are next. Uh, I just wanted to reiterate one of the topics that I discussed with Ryan Heath back.
57:09I think on June 5th is that show posted.
57:11Go watch it. If you haven't, um, as it relates to Lad McConkie, one of my favorite picks on the board this
57:17year, we like wide receivers on teams that use heavier personnel because bigger bodies, fullbacks or tight ends.
57:22In this case mean that more passes are funneled to the better pass catchers on the field in those moments, which are typically the wide receivers.
57:30So for example, and Ryan wrote this up 51% of Jackson Smith and Jigba's breakout season last year came from two wide receiver sets.
57:37Despite those snaps on the equaling 38% of his routes.
57:40I think Lad McConkie across the NFL could be the player that sees the biggest change in that department.
57:45Only 10% of his routes were from sets fewer than three wide receivers on the field last year.
57:5010% in comparison, Jalen Waddle, 46% of his snaps were with two or fewer wide receivers on the field last year.
57:56So I know that we also have QJ and Trey Harris and Brennan Thompson, your guy, and a bunch of other people on the field.
58:03I don't think I have to worry that much about Lad McConkie coming off the field, but you might have a different version of it.
58:10That's just like really splitting hairs. I think that the two wide receiver set stuff is, is a really big deal.
58:16There's like many years ago, I ran a study yards per route run and two wide receiver sets versus three wide receiver sets.
58:23And it was pretty substantial, the difference. And obviously the same target numbers would prove true.
58:27Like you just mentioned with JSN. So it just, he just has to play in them, but there's a lot of, of them up for grabs.
58:35I think there were the dolphins since like 2022 were second or third highest in their rate of doing that.
58:40And that explains, you know, having a full back on the field, having that second tight end, those types of bodies, uh,
58:46two running backs on the field at the same time.
58:49That just means there's going to be two wide receivers.
58:52So, um, I think that Trey Harris and QJ are competing and I'm hoping McDaniel says Lad McConkie's my Jalen Waddle and
58:58there's not a Tyree kill to get the ball to.
59:01And then we can really speed this thing up.
59:04So I think he's appropriately priced where he's at.
59:06He's a target of mine in round four. Um, as are like literally every one of those wide receivers.
59:12I also like, I mean, literally it goes from T Mac to Zay Flowers to Lad to Jalen Waddle to Garrett Wilson to a Mac Higbuka.
59:19Like if you're doing some type of a salary cap league, uh, that's the range.
59:23Go load up on all those. Sweep the board on all of those.
59:27And I know some comments are going to say, well, Trey Harris is the one that played the ISO wide receiver stuff last year.
59:34That was a different coach. I don't think that he's going to do that again this year.
59:39I could be wrong. Um, and then also the dolphins, like, you know, it wasn't just a Ronda Gadsden and it wasn't just Charlie Kolar.
59:46They also added David and Joku and brought in Alec Ingold.
59:49So there's a whole bunch of outs for only two or fewer wide receivers to be on the field.
59:54Yep. Yep. This year. They'll be at the top of the league for it.
59:58For sure. LA Rams. The craziest Devante Adams stats.
60:01Um, you guys will know what they are. It's inside the red zone and outside of it.
60:06He had a 27% target share, uh, inside the red zone.
60:09And then outside the red zone that drops down to an 18% target share.
60:13He got 0% of his targets outside the red zone were screen.
60:16So nothing manufactured it outside the red zone for Devante Adams.
60:19His average depth of target was almost 16 yards down field.
60:22That's like up there with like Alec Pierce, like some of the highest players in the NFL.
60:27It was completely boom bust in two ways. One, is he scoring a red zone touchdown or two?
60:32Is he going to come up with something way down the field?
60:36Now, as you can see, uh, on the website that we have here, the production goes way up and down with Devante
60:42Adams because the injuries, because it's red zone touchdowns or it's downfield stuff.
60:46None of the manufactured stuff is going to go to Devante Adams.
60:49That's why they have Puka and why they were also number one in rushing success rate.
60:53They don't need to be throwing the ball left and right anymore.
60:57If they're just going to run duo, create all this, uh, runway for Blake Corum and Kyron Williams to never make a mistake rushing the ball.
61:04That's what they're going to do. So he's going to be very volatile.
61:08He's like the most boom bust wide receiver three.
61:10That's where we're drafting him. But I do think that the volatility with Devante Adams is kind of here to stay unless Puka obviously got injured.
61:18Yeah. I mean, when Devante Adams and Puka Nakua were on the field together last year, he out targeted Puka 31 to
61:2410 in the red zone and 28 to four, just an end zone targets.
61:28Again, this, this travels with Devante Adams. It was with the jets.
61:31It was with the Packers. It was with the Viking, not the Vikings, the Raiders, like all these places.
61:37He's that go-to player when you abandon the run and you just have, you know, hand movements, checks, calls, and boom, your slant routes, your fades, all that.
61:45But he's scoring a touchdown. Is it on your radar at all that Kyle Shanahan considered and even told Devante Adams that,
61:51hey, we are looking into this AJ Brown thing.
61:54And if we do, we're going to trade you away.
61:56I think, I mean, he's not lying. I think that's pretty accurate.
62:00I'd rather have Devante Adams or AJ Brown than Devante Adams.
62:03So like, I think there's some truth to that.
62:05At the same time, you play your best players, you scheme up the ball and Devante Adams is clearly their second best receiver.
62:12So I don't think it matters all that much, except that there's like a pretty clear realization that this is not the
62:18like target hog that he was in his absolute prime and that they probably don't want to make him that because he
62:24was leaving the field every other play late in the season.
62:28So I think they're going to keep this kind of volatile, low volume type of role.
62:32It's low volume, like within reason. He's still, I think going to be a top 30 guy whenever he's healthy.
62:38I do think his game really ages well, you know?
62:41He's so smart. Yeah. He sets up corners and finds space and all that type of stuff.
62:45Uh, it can age well, and it already has.
62:48Okay. Miami dolphins are next. Look at this just real quick.
62:51Okay. Look at this ADP board. Beautiful over Yahoo.
62:54Devante Chan, 14th overall player. Scroll all the way down to round 11 and then even more to round 15.
62:59Um, I want to leave this off by saying, and hopefully the longtime viewers of the show know I'm obsessed with Devante Chan.
63:06I think he is an unsung superstar in the league that is viewed as, you know, just a speed back and he
63:12is so much more watching break tackles between the tackles, watch him break at the second level and the third level.
63:18He can do it all. But I do just want to bring up the difference in Devante Chan with Tua and with
63:24Mike McDaniel versus now Malik Willis and Bobby Sloick.
63:27Since entering the league. Okay. Devante Chan is the running back three in receptions per game at just under four, the running
63:33back seven and receiving yards per game and has 13 receiving touchdowns, which is the second most of the position that was
63:39all with mostly Tua and some other quarterbacks. And even if you look at Tua and the other quarterbacks, the splits are
63:46very, very bad in terms of his receiving. And I'm afraid it might get even worse here with Malik Willis, who yes,
63:52in a small sample only targeted his running backs 10% of the time with the Green Bay Packers.
63:57The only quarterback, according to Rich Rebar with a lower target rate, two running backs over that span were Riley Leonard and Anthony Richardson.
64:04And even like when Devante Chan played with Tyler Huntley in Miami, six of his 85 routes he was targeted on at 7.1%.
64:10So again, I want to reiterate, I think Devante Chan is incredible.
64:14He is so clearly the best player on the Miami Dolphins offense, but I do wonder if we are kind of drafting
64:20him very, very, very close to his ceiling as running back eight.
64:23And it's impossible for him to score as one of the top three, four runners this season because of the environment that he's in.
64:30I hear you. I think that's kind of baked in because if this is the same thing, I would draft him like
64:36seventh, eighth overall as the last couple of seasons.
64:39So I think there's a little bit of a discount.
64:42I just looked at it last year. The team that caught the fewest amount of receptions per game was the Baltimore Ravens
64:48because, you know, they didn't have Lamar Jackson. They have Lamar Jackson to run.
64:52Plus their defense was able to keep them in games.
64:55They still caught almost 17 passes per game. I would like to do this as a little homework assignment.
65:00Who other than Devon HN is catching? We have to get to 17 per game.
65:04That's the worst in the league. I don't think the Dolphins are going to finish dead last in receptions per game this
65:11year just because the defense is so bad. They're going to be, you know, just so many checkdowns late in the fourth quarter.
65:17We have to get to 17. Like, okay, I'll give you Greg Dolsage gets four or five of them.
65:23Like we, I don't see how he doesn't come out of here with five receptions per game still.
65:28Interesting. Well, I mean, he hasn't gotten five receptions per game though.
65:31So I think that is pushing it. I don't know.
65:34I'm like, I don't think Devon HN is going to bottom out.
65:37I don't want to come off with that at all.
65:40He's just going in again, area of running backs.
65:43And we just talked about in our top 15 show that in my brain and Saquon's already going ahead of him, hopefully on every single platform.
65:50But like, I think I can make a better case for Ken Walker scoring as a top three overall running back this year than I can Devon HN.
65:58Right. I can walk her ahead. I agree. Yes.
66:01I honestly think I can do it with Amar and Hampton.
66:04Yeah. Pure upside. I think that Amar and Hampton just like, he has more bottom now potential.
66:08That's fair for sure. Yeah. Again, we're swinging for the fences here.
66:12So, uh, and we talked through all the stuff with chase Brown, how he has no competition a lot of Devon HN yet.
66:18He's a good pick much, much, much superior offense and he's being selected later.
66:22So yeah, it's, this is a tricky one for me.
66:25A really tricky. It is. He's really good. I think the offensive line is actually good.
66:30They have nobody else to throw the ball to all the rest of the analysis.
66:34I'm just choosing not to look at it. I do want to say that Joe Mixon attached to Bobby Sloick did finish
66:40as the running back eight in points per game.
66:43Again, that's exactly where you're drafting Devon HN, but that team also went 10 and seven Minnesota Vikings.
66:48Let's go over with Kyler Murray. Um, the Vikings were first in success rate on passes 20 plus yards down the field from 2022 to 2024.
66:55I'm choosing not to bring up any 2025 stats with the Vikings past game for obvious reasons, but across multiple quarterbacks, not
67:01just the Kirk cousins games, it was the most efficient downfield passing, uh, attack.
67:05There was on those same 20 plus yard pass attempts since 2022.
67:09Kyler Murray was down at 31% success rate. That was 46% with the Minnesota Vikings.
67:13Was Kyler Murray not hitting these targets because of a Kyler Murray thing, or because he was not throwing the ball to
67:19Justin Jefferson, Jordan Adams with this KOC offense. And I'll even say the Vikings offensive line.
67:24I think that's going to be the major part that swings as Kyler Murray experience because Sam Darnold came into the offense
67:30was still taking some dumb sacks, especially in those last couple of games there, but was hitting on all of the downfield stuff.
67:37If Kyler Murray can go from a pretty mediocre downfield passer to a pretty good one in the best environment he's ever
67:43had, he's going to walk into fantasy one, uh, quarterback status, uh, just because he's going to still run a lot more than those quarterbacks.
67:50So to me, it's, it's the downfield passing attack.
67:53That's what makes this KOC offense go. And looking at the numbers, Kyler Murray was always pretty mediocre in that.
67:58He also did not have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and two quality tackles.
68:02I'm not sure if you saw this recent article from Alec Lewis, but he talked to a, I think former Cardinals coach,
68:08um, once Kyler Murray signed with the Vikings. And he said this, I think you're about to see the best version of Kyler Murray.
68:15And I'm fucking pissed that I'm not going to get to be a part of it.
68:19I'm going to be jealous when he's in a good environment.
68:23His headspace is good. And he shows people who the fuck he is.
68:26Hell yeah. Sign me up, man. Like sign me up.
68:29This is just, especially in a redraft where we don't even have to get through the entire season.
68:34If we get 10 weeks of this thing, just kind of going together, this is going to be, I think a lot of fun.
68:41I'm, I'm very curious about the Vikings this year, just because like they play some of the most fun defense in the league.
68:48And then when KOC has got these two, uh, alien wide receivers running down the football field and they have actual good
68:54offensive line, like that should be a lot of fun for Kyler.
68:57Yeah. It would be sweet if they had a running back to, to take advantage of that.
69:02That'd be Jordan Mason's popping up on every single dive analytic.
69:05Like Jordan Mason's like, Oh, there he is again.
69:08We talked about him on our running back sleeper show.
69:11I believe he was one of those names. Cause he still fits in that somehow going, uh, in the 10th round or, or later.
69:17Um, yeah, again, Kyler just face pressure, stand tall, fire through it and over it and trust the situation.
69:23Cause if you put it where KOC wants you to like good things have happened with far worse quarterback talents, way worse, way worse.
69:29Uh, New England Patriots are next. Speaking of quarterbacks, uh, we all know that Drake may friend of the show finishes the
69:36quarterback two and points per game last year. He's being drafted right now as quarterback four on Yahoo.
69:41Uh, I think that varies depending on where everyone is drafting at this point, just to reiterate what he did last year
69:47on throws 10 or more yards on the field.
69:50He completed 61% of those passes, the second highest rate for a league high 13.4 yards per attempt.
69:55The league average, uh, for completion rate was 48 and a half percent.
69:58So 12% higher, not bad. Uh, and to remind you who is throwing to on those 10 plus yard passes, Mac Collins got 33.
70:05Kayshawn booty got 33. Stefan digs got 31 and Hunter Henry got 27.
70:09Now he gets AJ Brown. Even if slightly a diminished version, he still goes to AJ Brown.
70:14He also gets Romeo Dobbs and keeps Kayshawn booty.
70:16Who is like an isolated wide receiver should threaten defenses over and over again from the outside and is doing it in camp so far.
70:23So this exciting. I mean, it's an improvement for a player who took major strides in year two.
70:28Uh, I think the only possible red flag here is how his left tackle was almost victimized during the playoffs and the super bowl.
70:35And I'm not saying every defense can do that to him, but, uh, it did show where like, uh, the weakness of this team can be.
70:43And, uh, if they can overcome it for all 17 years.
70:46Yeah. It's, it's just the offensive line is the thing that could hold them back on the margins.
70:51I think some of those downfield numbers are just like bound to regress.
70:55Even if you are talking about an MVP caliber quarterback with, with AJ Brown, I was the more I've like thought about the offense.
71:01I think we're just going to see a lot more AJ Brown in the slot, a lot more crossing routes from AJ Brown.
71:08Like, if you think about like Tennessee Titans, like the first like season, Tennessee Titans, like when he was 23 and then
71:14also like how he was used in college, like that was the type of player that he was.
71:19And then recently he's been like X receiver static, you know, like not very fun.
71:23I think that just cause K-Sean was so good down the field last year, Romeo Dobbs, an outside player for a lot of his reps.
71:31Like, I think you're gonna see a lot more crossing routes from AJ Brown, which I have noticed in the training camp clips.
71:37Uh, I've, I've really struggled with how to rank may say annuals burrow hurts.
71:41Like it's impossible. Totally same. Uh, and it's still the group I pick from a lot.
71:46If I'm not taking Kyler Murray, you know, I kind of just let the receivers I've drafted before, you know, make that decision.
71:52You know, if I have T Higgins and it's bro, you know, that's fair.
71:56All right. New Orleans saints next, which by the way, as we are recording, uh, Chris Olavi gets his extension.
72:02All right. Well, deserved there. I got notes on the running back room and kind of the team, uh, as a whole here.
72:08Saints were first in neutral pace last year by a wide margin and just want to bring up their offensive line with
72:15that, both their tackle spots, promising first round talents, including their left tackle, Calvin, uh, Calvin banks, who I really liked as
72:21a prospect, uh, had a nice rookie season. They had him in isolation a lot and he was kind of holding down
72:27the fort, uh, two returning players on the interior.
72:30We're going to argue how good both of them are.
72:32I think one of them is one of them isn't.
72:35And then they added also a left guard from the Buffalo bills, just kind of a floor razor veteran type out there.
72:41That's a pretty good offensive line for a team that's first in pace.
72:45Uh, and that's how Kellen Morris has called his offenses for a long time.
72:49So I don't think that Travis ETN has to play all the passing down snaps to pay off as like a upside
72:55RB to think Kamara returning takes some of like the complete upside appeal from him.
73:00Uh, but he's cleared almost 1400 total yards in three or four, uh, of his NFL seasons.
73:04And, you know, that was like, you know, Doug Peterson, some of the worst offensive lines in the league have been Jacksonville over the last couple of years.
73:12I think we're going to a fast, faster paced offense.
73:15The best offensive line is in his career. And I know that he's not everyone's favorite.
73:20He's not my favorite running back either. I know Kamara's going to catch some passes.
73:24And I still look at the numbers. I'm like the amount of carries he's going to get.
73:29And I think he's going to get all the goal line work.
73:32I still think he's going to pay off as an upside RB too.
73:36Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, when free agency hit and then the NFL draft hit, I was pretty certain that Alvin Kamara would not be on this team.
73:44And not only is he on the scene, even when he takes a pay cut, he's still getting paid a hefty amount.
73:50So I almost have to refactor in my brain how I'm thinking about this running back room.
73:55And I don't know if it's as simple as like two thirds and one third.
73:59Maybe it is, but pass downs, rundowns. I think it's like almost as simple as that.
74:04I mean, Kamara was so bad running the ball the last couple of seasons.
74:08And he's always talked about like, I'm okay with being like the number two role.
74:12And yeah, I mean, this is just training camp reports.
74:15We did have a report that Kamara and Travis Etienne are splitting first team reps at running back and all that type of stuff.
74:22So we're going to get all of that buzz heading into week one.
74:25It's just up to you all to decipher it.
74:28I think week one is going to come and then we're like, yeah, and he touched the ball 18 times and he's
74:34going to do just, just all right. Right. The contracts would suggest that.
74:38Yes. Okay. New York Giants. Jackson Dart was the number one in passer rating on plays, excluding their first read throws.
74:44So that's a little bit of the scramble effect.
74:46That's a little off platform throws. I remember many Darius Slayton drops on these out of structure plays.
74:51The reason why I bring that up is because one, Jackson Dart has been really good as a rusher.
74:57Second most EPA as a rusher among quarterbacks only behind Josh Allen last year.
75:01And I mentioned the excluding first read throws because he's going to have some first read throws in this offense because he
75:07didn't play with Malik neighbors last year and he's going to be out there.
75:11So at one point in the off season when I was definitely reading the reports and seeing like Malik neighbors might not
75:17be himself coming off that second cleanup surgery. Now I'm at the point where I'm breaking ties in favor of Jackson Dart
75:23because Malik neighbors is going to be out there.
75:26So like, as you know, we lose Ricky Pierce all like I moved Brock Purdy down and like now all of a
75:32sudden like Jackson Dart is kind of in that range.
75:35Patrick Mahomes coming off of injury. Jackson Dart now has got his primary weapon back.
75:39I'm looking at the offensive line at Francis Malanoa.
75:42Like I do think there's reason now that Malik neighbors is back in the lineup that Jackson Dart can be treated as
75:48somebody that you can start in week one of fantasy drafts.
75:51It's like one of the reasons why I think in redraft league spending that second round pick on Josh Allen, I think
75:57it's hard to make the math work because there's so many different options kind of in this tier.
76:02I will say 42 and a half percent of his fancy points last year came from rushing and he had the same
76:09passing points per game as Cam Ward did last season.
76:12So that has to change this year, right? I think that math is going to change this year.
76:17The second phase throws that you're talking about, honestly, one of his best place was allowing the pass rush to fly up
76:23the field, kind of not drop his eyes, but climb up in the pocket, draw the linebackers and then throw it over
76:29top of them to one of the Titans. Yep.
76:32That happened over and over and over again. Yep.
76:34I do wonder if defense are going to start catching up to that and onto that because I mean, truly when he
76:40had starts and especially against like the Philadelphia Eagles, he hit like multiple of those for contest.
76:45So he's a fascinating player for me to enter year two, because as maybe bad as Brian Dayball had this team in
76:52close wins and losses last season, I do think Brian Dayball allowed Jackson Dart to play free and did incorporate a lot
76:58of the Ole Miss stuff into it to make him feel comfortable.
77:01And I'm just wondering how and what Matt Nagy is going to do here.
77:05Yeah. Yeah. Allowed sacrifice. It's kind of a tough blend between the two.
77:09Yeah, that's fair. All right. Next New York jets.
77:11So I'm about Garrett Wilson. I mean, I feel like we haven't talked about Garrett Wilson one time this off season.
77:17And I like Garrett Wilson, like other seasons. And it's been at the correct times.
77:22I've been advocating to not draft Garrett Wilson. I'm in on him this year.
77:26All right. I mean, he did, he did lead the jets with 395 receiving yards last year.
77:30I think only playing six games, but we move on.
77:33I'm not a Frank Wright guy though. Okay. With that said, the last full season of Frank Wright calling an offense, a
77:3933 year old Adam Thielen caught 103 passes for over a thousand yards and ranked third in team red zone target chair at 39%.
77:46So again, I have major concerns and questions about Frank Wright being able to feature all these weapons and Ken Sadiq and
77:53Omar Cooper as rookies, and even 80 Mitchell, other than just putting them on the outside and asking to run down the
77:59field and being up to date on personnel groupings and shifts and motions.
78:02I honestly think like the NFL has passed Frank Wright by, but I do have little doubt that Garrett Wilson is going
78:09to get fed opportunity after opportunity, not just between the twenties, but also inside the twenties.
78:13And he's going in the same exact area of lad Jalen Waddle, Garrett Wilson, and Emeka Buka that I absolutely love.
78:19Yeah. Some of those seasons where he just was not hitting in fantasy, those defenses were actually like pretty solid there.
78:25They have a lot of turnover on defense, but they also like lost some of their best players.
78:30Like they're, they're really reliant on like David Bailey having a really good season as a first round pick.
78:36He's a really good player. So I think that he will, but the entire secondary is like Minka Fitzpatrick types, D'Angelo pawns at nickel corner, second rounder.
78:43Who's really tiny nation on right. Very boom bust.
78:46Like I think the defense is going to like kind of struggle this season.
78:50Interesting. They brought in a lot of veterans to hopefully not make it struggle.
78:54Yeah. I mean, they're also kind of veterans on the, the contracts that they got for a reason.
78:59So I think there'll be like some of those jets defenses were like third, fourth, fifth best in the league.
79:05And that's like part of the reason why Garrett Wilson was getting home.
79:08Maybe this is more of like shootout, not shootout, but like, you know, it's a little bit more pressure to put up
79:14some points because they can't trust the defense. How are you ordering that wide receiver group of lad waddle Wilson and Nick Buka?
79:21I like neighbors the most. And then I like waddle.
79:24And then this next tier is pretty close. I think Zay flowers versus Garrett Wilson's pretty tough.
79:29I don't know. This could be like a four hour podcast just on that alone.
79:33Look at my rankings. I have them ranked. I don't have them like memorize exactly how I'm breaking ties.
79:38I know I've really struggled with, with all of them though.
79:41Philadelphia Eagles. Let's talk about Dallas Goddard just because we don't really get to him very much.
79:46Lots of stuff going on with the Sean Mannion offense.
79:49Obviously we talked about Saquon Barkley on the show a whole lot.
79:52Goddard sat between 3.7 and 4.6 receptions per game in seven straight seasons.
79:56Like that's not a very big gap last year.
79:59He did the same. The only difference was last year he spiked for 11 touchdowns.
80:03That was a career high. His tight end nine expected half PPR points is a lot closer where I have him ranked.
80:09But on some of the drafting sites, including Yahoo, he's kind of pushed down like even much further than that, which is
80:15kind of surprising to me because he's still going to be somewhat involved in the offense.
80:20Like I think some of the AJ Brown stuff would filter down to him.
80:24I don't think that Eli Stauer is going to play all that much.
80:28And if he does, I think it'd be like as the second tight end where it's not really like detracting from Dallas Goddard and Sean Mannion.
80:35The first play of the, of the training camp period was 12 personnel, which I do think that that would help Dallas
80:41Goddard out a little bit as well. So I think he's fine.
80:45Like him versus Kelsey and like Isaiah likely now that we have Malik neighbors, I I'm kind of gravitated, gravitating towards Dallas Goddard.
80:51If you're like truly punting the position off this year.
80:54Yeah. I brought him up in our sleeper tight end show because yeah, he's going tight in 12 on Yahoo, but in
81:00best ball formats, he's going to sign in 15.
81:03I love that price. Yeah. I mean, it's easy math, right?
81:06Like we want to target tight ends who have a chance of being a top two pass catcher in their offense.
81:12That's never been easier for Dallas Goddard to do in this offense than with AJ Brown gone.
81:17And like now you're battling Makai Lemon, Dunstavian Wicks, and I guess Eli Stowers for that.
81:21So it's also possible with Sean Mannion, who just coached with the Green Bay Packers who set up a whole bunch of,
81:27and the strengths of Tucker Kraft's yards out of the catch.
81:31So I know he's 31 and he doesn't move like Tucker Kraft anymore, but yeah, we even talked about the fake tush
81:37push stuff to get him those goal line touchdowns too.
81:40They work. That's the wrinkle. Yeah. I like it.
81:42And by the way, Jalen hurts. I think looking at him, he's always ripped.
81:46He looks really lean and like jacked. Like there are some times where I think Jalen hurts at times could look a
81:52little bit puffier, which I totally understand because of how often he gets hit right now at training camp.
81:58This looks like best shape of my life. Jalen hurts, which, you know, you love to see.
82:03Well, I mean, I remember a couple of years ago where I think it was the Dallas Cowboys game.
82:08They couldn't throw the ball well at all. And he won that one via scrambling and via his rushing.
82:13But then there were other times last year. It looked like he lost two steps, not just.
82:18Yeah. Like more like Dak Prescott. Yeah. Yes. So I do wonder if he thought to himself, okay, I need to get
82:24back to actually being a weapon on the ground.
82:27Yes. More often as a scrimmage. Just you guys look at him like his face.
82:31Like you can like see like his, I mean, obviously it's fricking Jalen hurts.
82:35We're talking about it. He looks really ripped right now.
82:38He is the most photogenic person in the NFL since Cam Newton retired.
82:42He's very handsome. And you know, I would say Jalen hurts just from someone that does thumbnails all the time.
82:47Jalen hurts and Michael Wilson are the two most handsome men in the league.
82:51I agree. I look at, I'm a big GQ guy and Jalen hurts is all over GQ Pittsburgh Steelers up next.
82:57Just a team. I want to talk about all the time.
83:00Definitely last year. Aaron Rogers had the quickest time to throw with the shortest depth of target in the league.
83:06Not the best combo that you want for wide receivers.
83:09And that meant that DK Metcalf turned into Michael Pittman.
83:12I mean, 55% of DK Metcalf targets last year were nine yards and shorter.
83:16It was just 40% the year before that 19% of his passes and his targets last year were 20 plus yards on
83:22the field compared to 30% the year before that.
83:25I mean, a career high, 12% of his targets were behind the line of scrimmage.
83:29I mean, DK, as you know, through the math, lowest target depth of his career with 55 or fewer yards in 11 of 15 games.
83:36So I ask you what happens to DK Metcalf when he got turned into Michael Pittman?
83:40And then you just add Michael Pittman, who was better in those areas.
83:44Like, hey, I think there is a chance that we look back on this and Michael Pittman just outscores DK Metcalf despite being three rounds apart on Yahoo.
83:52I got a very similar stat to that. DK Metcalf only had a 15% target share when there was three wide receivers on the field last year.
84:00That was a 25% target share when he was the lone wide receiver.
84:03And that goes back to this, like how many wide receivers it's easier.
84:07There's fewer wide receivers to earn a target. We saw that play out with DK Metcalf.
84:12And I do think that when there is three wide receiver sets, it's going to be harder to earn a target.
84:18And then his targets are going to come way down the football field where Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to target because they have Michael Pittman.
84:25So I see this one the same way. Only thing in the back of my mind is the McCarthy offenses can play
84:31quick and the offensive line is good where like there could be just enough volume to kind of like both for both
84:37these guys to kind of get home. And like a very like low ceiling way.
84:41But historically, the McCarthy offenses do run a little hot.
84:44So that's like the only positive I can say about the situation right now.
84:48Yeah. And if you watch Pittman, it's glance routes, it's RPOs, it's quick hitting slants, it's crossers out of tight formations on mood action and all that stuff.
84:56Yeah. So just something on my radar. Obviously, Pittman's dealt with some injuries, but it's on my radar.
85:01All right. We have five teams left to go.
85:04San Francisco 49ers. First of all, I just want to bring up the Ricky Pierce all stuff.
85:09I didn't have like notes on him, but this came out yesterday.
85:12Yeah, man. All of the offseason videos that he was posting had that dang little brace sleeve, whatever we want to call it.
85:19The fact of the matter is like Tucker Kraft doesn't have one right now and not every single player coming back from injury had it.
85:26And the PCL injury is just one of these where if it doesn't get right without surgery after a year, you kind
85:32of just need to get the surgery. So as of right now, I'm expecting Ricky Pierce all to miss the entire season, which means Deshaun's dribbling time.
85:39We have a full video. If you guys are new here, full video on every single rookie that comes into the NFL,
85:46like 10, 15 minutes on a single prospect looking at their stats and whatnot.
85:50Go watch that. My stuff was going to be on.
85:53Just can I say one thing real quick? Just one thing from Matt Mayoka, who's covered the 49ers for a very long time.
85:59He said, quote, at this point, I think it's reasonable, rational, logical for the 49ers to not expect Ricky Pierce all to make any contributions in 2026.
86:07So his what PCL just didn't heal correctly is going to probably have to get another surgery on it, which really sucks.
86:13I mean, I'm not going to talk about Ricky Pierce until August 10th next year.
86:17I guarantee you. And then we get to George Kittle.
86:20It's like a very similar situation. He's coming back from torn Achilles as a 32 year old.
86:25He was number one in every single efficiency mark for the last two seasons.
86:29Like that's been the case for like you pick the sample size with him.
86:33His target share is at 16 percent. Like that is not what elite tight ends get.
86:37Usually they're in like the 25 percentish range. He has to be really efficient to matter unless everyone else is unhealthy.
86:43And there's a couple like nihilist reporters that cover the 49ers.
86:46They have been saying that Mike Evans does not look very good.
86:50And same thing with George Kittle. It's one of these offenses where like all of a sudden like it's going to be
86:56like striveling and like McCaffrey, you know. So it's just one of these teams where you aim for the upside.
87:02But right now the vibes don't seem that great.
87:04I'm just drafting a ton of striveling at this point.
87:07Yeah, I was hoping you were going to talk about Mike Evans.
87:11But if he hasn't looked great, then well, it's Grant Cohn.
87:14And he loves to, you know, just be like, yeah, this guy fucking sucks.
87:18Yeah, I mean, the Mike Evans stuff. He's great until the hamstrings hit.
87:21And the hamstrings have buried him for multiple games for like the last four years.
87:26I mean, hopefully you all tuned into our Dynasty Rankings video after the NFL draft where, you know, Deshaun struggling was going
87:32anywhere from like the 206 to the 212 in people's drafts.
87:35And I was like, no, just take him 13th overall.
87:38Also, Caelan Black, because Jordan James suffered a broken rib.
87:41He's now going to be the number two. Grant Cohn has really liked Caelan Black.
87:45So, you know, maybe we'll do a training camp update next week.
87:48Let's do it. All right. Seattle Seahawks. You've got three in a row here.
87:52Go ahead. All right. Let's go with Rashid Shaheed.
87:55Last year when he got integrated with the Seahawks, this did not come to fruition in terms of the receiving game.
88:01Obviously, he's still very important with the special team stuff.
88:04But he averaged 30 yards per game, only 2.4 receptions.
88:06That's including the playoffs from week 10 on. Do you want to remind people, though, in the 15 games next to Chris
88:13Olave from 2024 to 2025, he averaged 57 yards per game in that, which would make him the wide receiver 38 on wide receiver 30 usage.
88:20I don't think the most likely scenario is that Rashid Shaheed could be a wide receiver four in fantasy.
88:25But I do think there's a chance if the Seahawks defense isn't quite as good, if they just have to pass the
88:32ball, if it's not the same exact scheme that Clint Kubiak had where everything was going to JSN.
88:37I just want to remind people that I think that Rashid Shaheed is still really good at wide receiver.
88:42And as a reminder, the Seahawks could have paid Kenneth Walker the same exact money that they gave Rashid Shaheed, and they
88:48chose to give it to Rashid Shaheed. So he's kind of like a fringe sleeper to me, where I think in best
88:55ball, he makes a lot of sense. But I think even in redraft, I do think there's a chance where he could
89:01be a wide receiver four during bye weeks injuries, that type of thing, where he's a reasonable guy to throw into your starting lineup.
89:08Shaheed appeared in our wide receiver sleeper show. Hopefully you all watch that.
89:11If you haven't, go watch it after this video.
89:14I mean, he's even fallen since then. I think he was the sixth pick of the 12th round on Yahoo at that point.
89:20And now he's the 13 three wide receiver 54.
89:23Like, yeah, his targets went down from 22% with the New Orleans Saints down to 14% this last year.
89:28Like you said, 15 of 26 targets for 188 yards and zero touchdowns in the playoffs.
89:33He did have three catches for 78 yards. But man, Jeremy Fowler said Shaheed had a major spring and more short intermediate
89:39targets are in the pipeline for him this year.
89:42And if his competition is Cooper Cup and not Torrey Horton, then there's a chance that we fast forward six weeks in
89:48the season and it's frickin JSN and Rashid Shaheed.
89:50And we're just burning fools and 12 personnel. I think he's a really good out route runner can hit the brakes kind
89:57of like a, you know, version of the tank Dell like heyday for that one season.
90:01Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right. Deep dive here. Bucky Irving came back from injury in week 13.
90:06Um, there was a shoulder injury. It was a foot injury.
90:09He had the offseason surgery. Bucky Irving's healthy today.
90:12But from week 13 on the Buccaneers had seven carries inside the five yard line.
90:16Sean Tucker had six of the seven. So we have to figure this one out because Sean Tucker is a lot bigger than Bucky Irving.
90:23Bucky Irving really struggled in like the short yard of success rate stats this last season after being really good with Liam Cohen the year before.
90:30But if Sean Tucker is going to get there at the goal line, the upside chances for Bucky Irving like really get
90:37hard to imagine enough to the point where I'm fading Bucky Irving because they brought in Kenny Gainwell for a reason.
90:43We all know what that is is to catch a zillion passes.
90:46They give him $10 million guaranteed. So I think that's one way we're just not going to see Bucky as involved as the rookie season.
90:53Also Liam Cohen is like notorious for being excellent in the, uh, the screen game.
90:57And I don't think that the new staff is going to be able to repeat those marks from his rookie season.
91:03And then if Sean Tucker is going to be mixing in for even half the goal line carries, it's hard to make
91:10the projections work on top of, you know, he's just at risk of, you know, in the second week of the season,
91:16he has a setback to his shoulder. Nobody would be surprised.
91:19So he's somebody that was really good that rookie season.
91:22I'm just like struggling to find reasons to be on them this year.
91:25I mean, so, so good that rookie season. Um, you know, at least he's not going around four on Yahoo.
91:31He's going around five. On Yahoo, which does make it easier to click that button because again, we've talked a hundred times
91:37about those round four wide receivers and round five though.
91:40You still have Terry McLaurin and Luther burden. You still have Tyler Warren, who he brought up.
91:45You still have quarterbacks and Jane Daniels and Jalen hurts.
91:48So he's in that cluster of running backs with Deandre Swift and Bucky Irving and Quinchan Judkins and Dave Montgomery.
91:53That all flaws. I actually think Swift is the safest of the group.
91:57That's maybe a conversation. I think Swift is like in the scatabo tier and then it's kind of a tear break to the rest of these guys.
92:05I mean, you mentioned it in order to score fancy points for running backs.
92:09You really need to score touchdowns. Zero touches inside the five yard line last season and play just two snaps in that
92:15area of the field all year long. So maybe this changes with Zach Robinson and stuff, but at the same time, they
92:21do have three ball carriers, three of them. And we don't have Liam Cohen calling in place.
92:26That's for sure. Two more to go. Tennessee Titans are up next.
92:30Speaking of these running backs, Hayden, I feel like we haven't talked about Tony Pollard at all this summer.
92:35And like on Yahoo is going pretty late, right?
92:37He's the running back 31, the end of the seventh round.
92:41If you do look on best ball sites, he's going a full round earlier.
92:45So that's 612 and running back 27. So he might be one of these players that has the largest gap between best ball and redraft.
92:52And that always makes me try to figure out which one's right and which one's wrong.
92:56He turned 275 touches into over 1200 yards and five touchdowns last year.
93:00If you had Tony Pollard on your team, you didn't feel that at all until super late in the season, like the
93:06final four or five weeks where you didn't even want to start him because you couldn't trust him at that point.
93:12But he went nuclear in that spot. However, that's still only equaled the running back 30 and points per game, which is basically where he's going right now.
93:20Again, on Yahoo, he was running back 22 in the previous two years.
93:24So I guess my question is like, because of the offense, because of the situation that he's in, is this just a small wooden player or Hayden?
93:31Do you actually see a potential big win outcome?
93:34And when you get those in round six, around seven at running back, it does massive favors for your fancy team.
93:40I can see him finishing as like the running back 24.
93:43So kind of in that range, I'm expecting the Titans to get a little bit better.
93:47But I still think that Cam Ward's like very much a project.
93:51I have like some long term faith with them, but I think it's going to take the next couple seasons to get there.
93:57And the offensive line is just it's it's still a disaster.
94:01I think that was like the reason why he had the yardage because they would give him the volume, but he did
94:07not have the touchdowns to like make him that relevant.
94:10So I think it also partially comes down to like, are we serious with Tajay Spears or not?
94:15Like at some point, like they've they've like attempted it, then pulled him back, then like made him a receiver and then never the rushing stuff like.
94:22Well, now you have Dayball who has not coached him before.
94:25Like I am. I like Tajay Spears a lot.
94:28There are moments the previous season at the end of the year that he like really flashed as a pass catcher.
94:34But I don't know. Like, are you clicking Tony Pollard's name this year?
94:38I am because I want my running back in my flex and that kind of I like Jalen Warren in that range.
94:44I like kind of Pollard in that range. And then Chuba is going to fall to me.
94:49And then I think I'll probably draft some Chuba.
94:51I kind of like those guys for where they're being drafted.
94:54I think like where they're drafted versus the receivers next to them.
94:58Raw fantasy points to see like who's more likely to hit your flex DK Metcalf or like Tony Pollard.
95:03Like I don't think that's close. Like to me, like definitely be Tony Pollard.
95:07So I kind of gravitate towards this like dead zone running back.
95:11But they're they're priced pretty late. All right. Let's close with the Washington Commanders.
95:15There's really just like not that many guys to talk about.
95:18So I'll just go back to the Terry McLaurin stuff because we're going to talk about the running backs a lot as
95:24we get to the training camp practices. 23 games with Gene Daniels.
95:27He's the wide receiver 14. He's not being drafted like the wide receiver 14.
95:31In those games, he's run really high. He scored a lot of downfield touchdowns.
95:35And at the same time, that's what Daniels is really good at.
95:39That's what Terry McLaurin is really good at. So if like a duo is going to run really pure on downfield stuff,
95:45it would be this would be at the top of that list.
95:48And then there's the upside that in a new offense, less stagnant role.
95:52Nobody else to throw the ball to like if you scroll down, like we're scrolling down a long way.
95:57So we get that second wide receiver. We get some Chigakwankwo.
96:00But it's like all the way down there. And what Antonio Williams buried around buried.
96:05And we'll see if Antonio Williams could like really play in two wide receiver sets.
96:09He's kind of a slot only guy to me.
96:12So it's just one of these teams where we're crossed off.
96:15Iuke after the usually comment from the presser. I mean, we had a discussion on you like, you know, prior to everything happening.
96:21And it's not a surprise to me that it trended this way, but he is not going to be a Washington commander.
96:27No. Yeah. If you guys missed that interview, they asked him, like, do you track the social media?
96:32That's usually. Yeah. The GM and the head coach right next to each other.
96:36And he's like, do you check social media? And he was like, it doesn't usually come up.
96:41But he said, usually at the end of it, like to be like, this time it's coming up.
96:46Very funny. And then I think Stefan digs as a link has only been through people like me and you and not like local people at all.
96:54Right. Maybe it would like be Debo, but the 49ers can get involved with the Debo stuff.
96:59They might just say, like, we're rebuilding, man. Like, we're not going to have everything in place this year.
97:04Like, Jaden, go deal with it. And like, Chico Cuonco could be the guy.
97:08That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, I'm drafting a lot of Washington commanders.
97:12I understand because there's not a lot to pick from.
97:15And so it's concentrated. And I believe in this offense with a new play caller that some edges exist here.
97:20And so I'm drafting Jaden and I'm drafting Terry and they go in the exact same spot.
97:25But then we talked about, you know, the wide zone outside zone stuff and how bill and, you know, minimal work last
97:31year scored the best in, in that area. And then I said, Chico Cuonco could be David Blouse, Sam LaPorta.
97:37And I feel like that's kind of becoming a trend.
97:40So maybe I'm just going to be wrong and draft too many commanders, but I'm a little optimistic here.
97:45No, I like being optimistic here. And two seasons ago when they popped off, Terry McLaurin, 117 targets.
97:50Next closest was Earth. And then it was Lombardy Zaccheaus.
97:53And like, that's like right now, if the season started today, that's how we would be projecting it.
97:58McLaurin. Now it's a Cuonco. And then like, I guess Zaccheaus would be Antonio Williams, but way, way down the threshold there.
98:05That's going to do it. Our first stats versus film of the season in under an hour and 45 minutes.
98:10Crisp, crisp. Don't get used to that. Usually they're two hours.
98:13We'll see. We'll see. Again, we're going to try to make these live during the season on Tuesday evenings so we can interact with you during the show.
98:21So you can watch it live on top of that.
98:24So keep on the lookout. We'll be revealing our in-season schedule at some point, but it might be a month and a couple weeks from now, Hayden.
98:32But it feels like that's going to be tomorrow.
98:34So let's get there when we get there. All right, everyone.
98:38We'll be back here, I guess, on Monday with a new episode, another four episodes next week.
98:42Thank you all for tuning in for our first week back.
98:45Our new era here at Yahoo. You've made it an easy one.
98:49Up the villa. We'll talk to you guys soon.
98:51See ya.