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1:48Your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice.
1:52What's up, everyone? And welcome back to another off-season edition of Fantasy Football Weekly with your host, John Laghezza, at John Laghezza on Twitter.
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2:03Jake Trowbridge. Running backs are all the talk right now, Jake.
2:07It's because of that, right, kind of perceived weak draft class.
2:10We're now seeing the impacts of that on drafting rooms.
2:13What's going on? Are you ready for a jam-packed RB episode?
2:17Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready. The question is, are the listeners ready to get all the goods on these?
2:23You know, I don't know what the title of this thing is going to be when it comes out, John.
2:29But when I was referring to these, you know, murky backfields initially, I was calling them muddy backfields.
2:35And I decided I'm going to stop doing that because it sounds too much like a euphemism that you'd hear in a commercial for Pepto-Bismol or something.
2:44Muddy backfields. I don't want to be that guy.
2:47So messy backfields? Let's maybe go with that. Yeah, maybe be careful typing that one into Google.
2:52You never know. In front of people, you never know what's going to come up.
2:57Maybe not safe for work. All right. So the discussion topic today is write those, you know, vague backfields, right?
3:03Where it's kind of a gray area and chaos being the latter, fantasy football being a game of attrition.
3:09Leagues are going to be won and lost on how you play these, right?
3:14Whether it's at the draft table or in season.
3:17I think having a good idea, these murky backfields, what it's like.
3:21So we have a half a dozen of them.
3:23I want to thank you for putting them together.
3:26I do agree with the teams. We'll get through them.
3:30First up is Washington. I'm going to just try and set the table as quick as I can.
3:35And then we'll go from there because it's really just an open forum here.
3:40What do we think? Do we like the lead?
3:43Are we off the lead? Do we like the backup?
3:46Are we on both of them or none of them or anything in between?
3:50So we'll start with the commanders. You know, they were number one in yards after contact per rush.
3:56Top five in rush rate, although they were 15th in running back rush yards per game, right?
4:02Because they do run. It was Jaden Daniels. It was also a little bit of Mariota looking kind of spry at times.
4:09So right now the room is constituted. They bring in Rashad White, ADP 111 from Tampa.
4:14He had two top 10 weeks, zero top five weeks.
4:17My quick note was he was better than expected running.
4:20Not as much kind of ploddery. He's a little bit better than I thought.
4:25Then we have JCM, everyone's favorite seventh rounder from last year.
4:28ADP 121. So right off the bat, right? Very close.
4:31He had two top 10 weeks, one top five week.
4:35A little bit of ceiling. I have good yak NYPA, especially given the amount of eight men boxes that he faced.
4:41I was a little surprised with what I saw from JCM.
4:45And then Kaytron Allen, the rookie ADP 200 six rounder out of Penn State.
4:49And I noticed a pretty good balance of volume and catches, decent amount of touchdowns.
4:54So where are you on Washington? Rashad White is one of the main risers lately.
4:59I think just as people digest what's going on, he appears to be the RB1.
5:04And that ADP is a little bit cheap for RB1s nowadays.
5:07You have to pick 100. What do you think about the commander's backfield, Jake?
5:12Yeah, John, I think that's going to be a recurring theme throughout this episode probably is, you know, with all of these
5:19we're going to talk about, they're all so cheap with very few exceptions that you can take shots wherever you like on any of these.
5:27It's not a big commitment. You know, if it doesn't work out, you can drop them without too much regret.
5:33So we're just looking for guys that can hit.
5:36And if they do, you know, you'll be on a much more linear route to the fantasy championships, like people who got Javante Williams last year.
5:44That's the kind of thing that we're looking at with this.
5:48Of course, Paul Charchian always called it the do the opposite strategy, aka zero RB.
5:53And Rashad White is a heck of a zero RB or do the opposite kind of running back because you nailed it.
6:00I'm not going to say that he's a great pure runner because he's not, but he's a little better than he gets credit for.
6:07And he's so good at earning targets out of the backfield.
6:11I think that's where I want to start with Washington is which of these guys do I think can actually be the
6:18check down option for Jane Daniels, even though he doesn't check down a ton.
6:23I think it's the most valuable thing because this team also had a change of offensive coordinator, John.
6:28We're going from Cliff Kingsbury to David Blau. Yeah, Blau was there as the QB assistance coach last year.
6:34I don't really know what that means other than, hey, you're comfortable being around the practice field, I suppose.
6:40David Blau, though, we don't know what his tendencies are going to be.
6:45We know Cliff Kingsbury was very good at just getting a good rushing offense.
6:49But, you know, first year OC, John, do you think it makes sense like I do to say, I'm going to target
6:56the veterans on this team because of that? Because the new guy coming in probably needs a little bit of help that way?
7:04Yeah, I would say, especially in the running back room here, I think Rashad White is one of the veterans here.
7:10You know, he's going to know where to be and how to produce and, you know, the EPA and success rates were better than I thought.
7:19He's actually getting me on to Rashad White and maybe away from JCM, who feels like, again, you mentioned White's, how prolific he is in the pass game.
7:28Jaden Daniels is so good with RPO stuff. This could be a match made in heaven.
7:33And yeah, I think he's going entirely too late.
7:36Even if you're going to give up a little bit of maybe goal line equity, I think that's fine at the price.
7:43So going through this, I think I'm into Rashad White.
7:46I think it may be a little lower on merit.
7:49Maybe just a few picks too high. And I think I like Allen.
7:53You know, if you're doing these best bowl drafts and you're looking to just fill in to backfill, I'm not sure I'd be so into him in redraft.
8:02And then they also have Jerome Ford, but I think that's a little bit outside of our scope.
8:08Next up would be Tennessee. Oh man, audible sigh.
8:11If you couldn't pick up on the audible sigh led with.
8:14So my notes say, despite the third lowest heavy box rate, they were still a bottom five O-line and a bottom five
8:21rushing offense in terms of rush rate, rush per game, EPA, rush yards per game, yards before contact per rush, rush success rate, and explosive rush rate.
8:30So basically every single thing that matters analytically. They did draft a fifth round guard, but they're also ranked again to be bottom five going forward.
8:38You got Pollard, ADP 76. He had one top five week.
8:42You get volume, but the efficiency not great. He really is a past game asset.
8:47Taji Spears pick 162. Not a single top 10 week.
8:50I put same archetype as Pollard, but worse. I just think Pollard is a much better player in both assets of the game.
8:57And then they drafted Nicholas Singleton. He's only ADP 190, which is a little bit high for a third back.
9:04And a couple of thousand yard seasons. It looks like some injuries and some low volume in the last one.
9:10And he can catch the ball. I think I'm just like so out on Tennessee until I see it.
9:16People are excited about Ward. He could take a step forward.
9:20They also have not done much in the way of protecting him, Mr.
9:24Jake. And that's where I'm worried. And how defenses kind of react to that, right?
9:29When you don't present a threat to every blade of grass, defenses adjust.
9:33And I think that kind of rolls downhill. So I'm off the Titans.
9:37You have anything different? I mean, I've landed on Pollard where he's fallen.
9:41Just to be honest, when my roster rate comes out.
9:44But I'm not into the Titans issue. I mean, I'm getting more interested in the Titans, actually.
9:50As I realized the pieces they added outside of that guard and Nick Singleton.
9:54You know, they did add a pretty solid wide receiver.
9:57A lot of folks seemed to think fourth overall in the draft by adding Cardinal Tate.
10:03They bring in Wanda Robinson. Maybe those guys can actually keep the offense humming along more.
10:08Where all of the guys in this backfield get more opportunities.
10:11That's the hope, at least. And, of course, bringing in Brian Dable, change of offensive coordinator.
10:16He's been good. You know, he has a good history of utilizing his running backs.
10:21Probably more important, he has a good history of emphasizing one running back.
10:25Which is not common in a lot of these backfields we're talking about, John.
10:30So that's why I'm into Tony Pollard thinking that, based on Nicholas Singleton, you know, he broke his foot before the Senior Bowl.
10:37I think that's part of the reason that caused him to slide down draft boards.
10:42And so Tony Pollard should be the one who at least gets the hot start.
10:47And, you know, in redraft, that's more valuable. And his ADP, for a guy who's put up 1,000-yard rushing seasons four years
10:54in a row and hovers around 1,300 scrimmage yards, I'm not going to lie.
10:58I'm kind of enticed by it, John. The issue is, how long will Tony Pollard keep that role?
11:04And will... Because I agree. I don't think TyJ Spears has much to worry about.
11:09So I'm just shooing him away. And I'm waiting on Nicholas Singleton to get healthy.
11:14Maybe that's when he sneaks in and then disrupts this whole thing.
11:18And then you're kind of screwed. Yeah, the audio-only people couldn't see, you know, luckily for them, my face and Cheshire cat
11:25smile because I was a huge proponent of Tony Pollard last year.
11:28But remember, those total stats can be a little bit misleading.
11:32By the time he was delivering, it was a little too late for me.
11:36Although, I don't want to blame it on Pollard.
11:39I went down the Bucky Irving road last year.
11:42That injury kept getting delayed and delayed and delayed.
11:45You can't really keep falling behind in fantasy football.
11:48Maybe I wasn't proactive enough, but I did fall for it.
11:52But it was funny with Pollard, who just... I mean, by the time we were into Week 12, right?
11:58So the two games after coming out of the bye, when you're like, okay, maybe we'll get explosive again.
12:04He goes 10 for 22, then 11 for 20.
12:07He made a few catches, but only totaled 25 receiving yards.
12:10And then, like, who would have thunk it? You know, he just went absolutely crazy.
12:15So he's also N plus one. We talked about those lower body injuries removed from that tightrope surgery.
12:21Pollard was like a top 10 overall pick like two years ago.
12:25So I think I'm with you. I think I am buying it, again, because of the price.
12:30I also want to take a little bit of a lowercase L on Tate.
12:34And it's just like you mentioned, the draft capital is so high.
12:38Think about where we were taking Marvin Harrison. Now, that didn't work out.
12:42And maybe this is an example of kind of once bitten, twice shy.
12:47But just to equate draft capital to fantasy draft capital, you got to think his 60 ADP Tate is a steal for a bit in the draft, right?
12:56I'm more lukewarm on Cardinal Tate as an individual fantasy asset than most.
13:00I like him to hopefully help the offense overall.
13:03And so if you're somebody in a 2QB league who wants to draft Cam Ward or, again, wants to invest in one
13:10of these running backs, I like Cardinal Tate for that, for real life.
13:14I'm a little lukewarm because I actually think his ADP is too high, personally.
13:18I think he's a pro-ready wide receiver. That's fine.
13:21But I don't see this crazy high ceiling that a lot of people do.
13:26Interesting. Yeah, a lot of it is just based on draft capital.
13:30And we've seen that mislead. But I'm a price guy.
13:33I have not drafted Tate once. I tend to be that kind of strict drafter, Jake.
13:38I do a lot of zeroing out. I zero out a lot of teams in a lot of situations.
13:44I don't like to put my hard-earned money on players and teams I don't really believe in.
13:49I like to see it first. Call me Missouri.
13:52All right, next, our third backfield that's funny is Pittsburgh, right?
13:56We generally think of as a running team. This is kind of interesting.
14:00Pittsburgh last year, bottom five in attempts per game.
14:03That's a running team with the Steelers or any Aaron Rodgers team.
14:07They move like they're in molasses. However, they were top 10 in success rate.
14:11They do it well. Low play volume in general, like I mentioned.
14:15So it's Jalen Warren, ADP 75. He had three top 10 weeks.
14:19One top five week. And I have to admit, this is one of the reasons that I'm very glad to be doing this show.
14:27Because when I kind of uncovered this stone, I was really impressed with what I saw from Warren.
14:32I wrote underrated dual threat. You get efficiency plus there was volume.
14:36I didn't realize it. You know, it kind of got outshone by Gainwell a little bit, who was fantastic.
14:42But now he's gone. They bring in Rico Dowdle, who I put slightly better runner, but not much.
14:48He's the biggest, so he's probably in line for all the, you know, empty calorie work.
14:53Maybe a little bit more of the goal line work.
14:56But man, I'm kind of getting into Jalen Warren at ADP 75.
15:00What do you think about the Steelers backfield? It's also split.
15:04They're a little more expensive, where I don't think you could take them both.
15:08I think you have to have a stand here if you like someone from Pittsburgh.
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18:16I think they're more expensive than the rest of these guys.
18:19Because even though the Steelers had what the fifth lowest team rushing attempts last year.
18:24Because as you said, they move so slow. So Warren and Gainwell were the only backfield mates to eclipse 1,000 scrimmage yards each.
18:31Which is wild. That just speaks to how efficient that both of them were.
18:36And frankly, how much old man Rodgers just dumped that ball off because he was terrified if anybody on the defense looked at him the wrong way.
18:44So I think leaning into that run game was obviously a necessity.
18:48Maybe Michael Pittman coming on board with this team gives him another option to feel comfortable getting the ball out quick.
18:55But not necessarily having it go to one of these running backs.
18:59Or if you're one of these sickos out there, John, who've been doing, you know, a million rookie dynasty drafts at this point.
19:06This Eli Heidenreich name keeps popping up. And oh, we have another next CMC.
19:11So drop the balloons. That's the thousandth player that we've heard is going to be the next CMC with zero actual basis
19:18for that other than he caught a bunch of passes at Navy.
19:22So he's got to be the same guy. But John, can we at least agree Caleb Johnson is gone, right?
19:28Like completely out of the realm of possibility of coming back.
19:32Is that fair? At least for right now, especially after the draft pick here and all the reports coming out.
19:38And I think if anything, you know, lessons learned because I unfortunately bought some of that last season and there's a place for rookies.
19:46You just shouldn't really be paying up for it, you know, because you're oftentimes paying for the production that hasn't happened.
19:52And I've joked about it before on my own show and this show.
19:57Sometimes there's value in just knowing where to stand, right?
20:00Veterans know where to stand. They understand calls and how to do audibles and be in the right place at the right time.
20:07And we know particularly in Pittsburgh, there is a tax for not standing in the right place.
20:13It's called the not standing in the right place tax.
20:16And Aaron Rodgers makes sure to get his pound of black and yellow flesh every time that you betray him on that.
20:23It's the truth. You will, he will grab you by the face mask.
20:27Like you will hear it in the press conferences and stuff.
20:31And then you see it in the utilization. So I think you make a real, you make a lot of great points,
20:38but the usage point, if you saw me scrambling to my post-it note, I want to make sure that I go back and circle all of these backfields.
20:47You mentioned Tony Pollard having a good route to singular use.
20:50100% agreed. That's mostly gone the way of the Dodo, Jake.
20:54We're looking for two running back, right? That was the real point that I took from that is, ooh, a backfield with
21:01only two and not three really boost both of their value.
21:04Maybe I have to pump the brakes on what I was saying about them being a little too expensive.
21:10They are more expensive than other tandems. But man, if you think even at a slower rate and a lower, like a
21:17smaller pie, that they're going to be splitting all of it, which is all the pass catching, all the garbage time, all the end zone work.
21:26Yo, man, I think I'm getting sold on the Pittsburgh backs.
21:29I haven't really drafted them, but I think I'm going to.
21:33And again, we saw Rodgers just hyper target Gainwell.
21:36If a little bit of that goes to Warren, he's a smash.
21:39Well, I know we'll give you a little bit more just onto the fire here real quick, John, because I'm going to
21:46get you drafting both of these guys so many times by the end of this offseason.
21:52The Steelers also have, I would say, arguably the easiest first half schedule of any team in the NFL.
21:58In their first eight weeks, they're only going against one team with a winning percentage in 2025.
22:03And that's New England. The rest of these seven teams collected had a total win loss record last year of 46 wins and 73 losses.
22:11Obviously, things change. We can't just assume it's going to be the same year over year.
22:16But if you're looking at a team that's going to have positive game scripts, which we often need for running backs, especially
22:23split backfields to be successful, then I think this is the one to go with.
22:28And both have three down potential. So I think both can handle the workload.
22:33Dowdle does have the connection with Mike McCarthy coming in from their year, really, or year and a half, I guess, in Dallas.
22:40So if I had to choose when I'm going, Dowdle, but I'll take both.
22:44Wow. Another awesome point. You had me scrambling to my post-it notes again about early scheduling.
22:50Dude, it matters. I have ignored it too often in redraft where you want to get out to a good start.
22:56There might be injuries. Get out to a good start.
22:59Those players have more value out of the box.
23:02I think that was really great. Sorry to rush on that one.
23:06I'm glad we got that in. All right. So that's three of the six teams.
23:11Let's take a bow and a quick breather. Let's circle back.
23:15I have another three teams that I really want to get into.
23:18I think we're making good pace. We're going to get through everything today.
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23:48That seems surprising. Yeah, when I first heard it, I thought, okay.
23:52But when the experts at Harris X broke it down, it was true for millions of families.
23:57Five years of the lowest wireless bills versus Verizon and AT&T.
24:01And in this area where every monthly bill gets noticed, that kind of savings makes a real difference.
24:07Plus a five-year price guarantee on experience plans. I'm not hearing any sacrifice here.
24:11Which is what people need right now. Reliability, predictability.
24:14That kind of breathing room makes a weekend on the coast a little easier to plan.
24:19Affordable wireless service isn't a perk. It's a difference.
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26:27All right, Jake, let's turn a page into the second half here.
26:31Next up, it's the Patriots. Now, a team that people are really excited about.
26:36And another team right with that kind of two-headed backfield.
26:39They were sixth in rush yards per game, but 11th in running back rush yards per game.
26:44Of course, Drake May taking that up. I wanted to look at the goal-to-go carries.
26:49Henderson had 16, led the way. Mondre, 15, May, 13.
26:52But remember, Mondre did miss three games in the middle of the season.
26:57They faced the second heaviest, highest box rate. And then, you know, it's...
27:01I just wrote the word frustrating in the biggest letters that I could where it didn't go across the line.
27:07You know, the biggest surprise to me was that in the games together, where Mondre actually out-snapped Trevion when the Patriots were tied or trailing.
27:15They had the same amount of targets, but Mondre actually had 100 more receiving yards.
27:20The reason I mention that is I think I kind of bin these players as thunder and lightning, right?
27:26It's very easy for us to do that. There's a bigger back that runs and a more scatty back that catches.
27:33That's not always the case. Mondre was a really good runner.
27:36He was also pretty darn good in the pass game.
27:39Man, their ADPs are 51 Henderson, 75 Mondre. I think maybe those should be flipped.
27:44And that, again, is not a very popular opinion.
27:47I was not drafting Henderson last year because I was worried.
27:51We did see the potential in those games without Stevenson.
27:54So, that to say, it's still a lot of gray matter going on here.
27:58What do you think about the Patriots backs? Yeah, John, I don't know.
28:03Why didn't Henderson's ADP drop like at all from last year?
28:06It feels like this is right around where folks were drafting him last year.
28:11And I understand the upside is very enticing. I get it.
28:14But I just would have assumed he would have dropped down because of the disappointment he gave everybody last year.
28:20And I guess folks are looking at the end of year stat totals, which I'm victim of doing sometimes myself.
28:27But if you look at the time where Henderson actually started to shine, it wasn't until week nine of last year.
28:34And that's when Mondre Stevenson got injured, as you said.
28:37And when Stevenson got healthy again, then he was again playing a lot more snaps than Henderson was because he's a better
28:44pass blocker and a better pass catcher even than Henderson was.
28:47I think the assumption was Henderson will grow into this role as a receiving back.
28:52And he might. He might. But Mondre Stevenson looked better than he did.
28:56And I just want to focus on the snap counts from week 13 on because that's when Mondre came back from his injury and was basically healthy.
29:05And you talked about the snap counts, but week 13 on including the actual NFL playoffs, Mondre Stevenson, 380 snaps, Travion Henderson, 212 snaps.
29:13That's a wild difference at the tail end of the season to still have a guy like that have such high ADP
29:20and to have the ADPs not flipped like you said.
29:23So I don't know. Give me Mondre Stevenson a few rounds later.
29:27If eventually things shift, I'll adapt. I'll move. I'll trade.
29:30I'll drop him to waivers, whatever. But I'm not going to start with Henderson on the assumption that he's just going to
29:37come out of the box looking great. There's no reason to think that.
29:41I mean, and the playoff touch counts were very heavily in favor of Stevenson.
29:4613 to 10 against the Chargers. 20 to 13 Houston.
29:4925 to 3 at Denver. That's a blowout. And then 12-9 Seattle.
29:53Like there wasn't a single time where they said when the chips are down, Henderson is the guy.
29:59He's just... And it might be. And Henderson drafters might get lucky.
30:02Maybe Stevenson, you know, hits the lottery and goes to that mindfulness retreat I'm always talking about.
30:08Maybe. And then there's a case that Trevion could legit be the RB1 or among at least the top five running backs.
30:15But until then, I think you're overpaying. And Stevenson, to me at least, is the most obvious smash zero RP pick ever.
30:22Right? Because generally when I go zero RB, I'm asking myself, Jake, are there any points in week one?
30:28Are there anything? Because where I've made the mistake is having the pendulum swing too far, leave myself out in the cold in the early weeks.
30:36Right? So would you buy on that? Rashad White and Ramondre Stevenson are going to score points week one.
30:42Yes or no? I say yes. And I say definitively yes.
30:46And so I think, yeah, redraft. And by the way, and I will say even dynasty value for Trevion Henderson, way too inflated.
30:53That's another one that took zero hit based off of a performance last year.
30:58I don't get it in either format. Yeah, I don't.
31:01Sometimes this is really interesting when we talk about market machinations and going against the trend and wisdom of the crowd.
31:08Sometimes you have to be willing to say like, no.
31:11And again, we're not taking a player in the 300s no one's ever heard of.
31:16We're talking about an accomplished. Like, back with success on a winning team that's healthy and leading the way.
31:22I don't know. It's weird. I asked you if they could both score week one.
31:27I should have asked, can they lead the running back room in fantasy points week one?
31:32And again, the answer is yes. Next team up, Carolina Panthers.
31:35Okay, so they were top 12 in rush rate, but bottom 10 in explosive rush rate.
31:40They're also 30th in rushing touchdowns. You got Chuba Hubbard is back.
31:44ADP 73. He had three top 10 weeks, not a single top five week.
31:49There's a question about ceiling here. We know what happened when he got replaced by Rico Dowdle.
31:54I have not been drafting Hubbard at all. His ADP is now converging with backup Jonathan Brooks.
32:00I haven't listed it 105, but I've been in these draft room, Jake.
32:04They're getting closer to about the low 90s. They're both, they're going next to each other in the low 90s.
32:10So ADP, let me get closer to the season.
32:13We'll be using tighter windows for larger samples. But John Brooks, I mean, he had a really great 2023, but last I checked, it's 2026.
32:21We haven't seen much from him. They are over the moon about this guy, though.
32:26There is not a single report out of that team's camp that does not include Brooks and how he looks like.
32:33He could be everything. So again, to me, if you're playing for two types of ceiling in zero RB, Stevenson and White
32:40being that more vanilla lower, higher floor, lower ceiling, Brooks, if this works out right, he could be the RB1 by week
32:47three, maybe sooner if he outperforms him in camp.
32:50We saw the Panthers be willing to go away from Hubbard.
32:53So what do you think about the Brooks room?
32:56You started nudging me into Brooks, and the more I've looked, the more I've liked.
33:01Again, the price is getting high. So I saw you nodding.
33:04Where's the cutoff for Brooks? Make sure you include that, please.
33:08Yeah, the cutoff, if Brooks starts going, you know, into this dead zone running back area, which to me starts at around round six, round seven.
33:16When he starts creeping up at around six and round seven, as we get more and more positive reports, I'm assuming that'll happen.
33:24I don't know for sure. Then I'm going to be out just because we're still talking about a guy who's had two
33:31ACL tears, you know, in the last two years up to the same ACL.
33:35And I know he's gotten some distance from the injury, and I'm excited to see what his upside can look like.
33:42But it's still rough to bank on something like that right now.
33:46But I do want to try to follow the money on this, John, because that's in these dicey backfields where you're just
33:53trying to figure out who could be the real lead back.
33:56I was working my way through this. So the Panthers signed Chuba Hubbard to a four-year extension, $33 million, a few months
34:03only after spending their second round pick on Brooks.
34:06And Brooks was coming into the season injured. Obviously, he was still recovering from that first ACL injury.
34:12But Hubbard gave him a ton of, or Hubbard got a ton of money before Brooks tore the ACL a second time.
34:19So they were already, the Panthers being like, we want Hubbard to be our guy.
34:24But I don't know that it matters anymore, John, because a year prior to that, they gave Miles Sanders.
34:30Remember that guy? They gave Miles Sanders almost an equivalent contract.
34:33And then we're just like, no, screw this guy.
34:36We're moving on. He stinks. He's terrible. We're turning the backfield over to Hubbard.
34:41So if Brooks is really as good as they're saying, and they spent that second round pick on him, he could absolutely leapfrog Hubbard.
34:48And he does have a higher ceiling, a much lower floor, but a way higher ceiling, like you said.
34:55So I'm kind of willing to absorb the risk here.
34:58Yep, 100%. Love it, especially in redraft where the floor is zero.
35:02Okay, snip, snip. See you later, pal. You know, thanks for playing.
35:05Where, again, best ball in these year-long commitments, it's a little harder to pay the premium without at least the information that we want.
35:13Now, keep in mind that I'm kind of setting you up here, Jay.
35:17If you had to guess of the 134 rush attempts that Chuba Hubbard had in 2025, do you know exactly how many went for more than 20 yards?
35:26Ooh, more than 20. 20 yard, how many 20 yard rushes Chuba Hubbard had in 2025?
35:31I'll give him one just to be nice. Yeah, the answer is zero.
35:36And, you know, there's a lack of explosivity here, right?
35:39There's a lack of explosivity. In fact, he only didn't stay away from the goose egg and explosive rush rate.
35:45I think explosive rush rate might be 13. So he had one between 13 and 20.
35:50But that's it. So he's going to, like, write that three yards and a cloud of dusting because the success rate is actually pretty good, right?
35:5948% success rate. You're going to take that. And maybe the most impressive number, and this is why they like him so
36:06much, Jake, is I like to account for negative or zero.
36:09I guess, like, so let's call it non-positive attempt rate, right?
36:13Because a zero is not great either. Some people just do losses, but I don't think that's good either.
36:19And his was down at just 12%. That is fantastic.
36:22There are running backs that operate full workloads up and around or above 20, which is the truth.
36:28So he doesn't get stopped for nothing, but he's not going to get you everything.
36:33And I think the more we kind of talk through this analytically, you see why he's gotten replaced without being removed.
36:39Does that make sense? Right? He got replaced. The RB1 kind of got replaced.
36:44But he didn't get removed because his role is still extremely valuable.
36:48He's not going to give it up. He's not going to put it on the floor.
36:53He's not going to burn you. He's not going to do happy feet in the backfield and lose your six yards.
36:59He doesn't do that. And those are like sacks, which we all know kill drive.
37:04So I like Hubbard as a real football player.
37:07I think I'm off him completely now as a fantasy asset, right?
37:11He kind of had that chance, didn't run away with it.
37:15Man, this has been a really good episode. When I have quick notes, I keep myself from tangenting too much.
37:21Last but not least, of course, Denver Broncos, those high expectations.
37:24Bottom 12 rush rate, but also bottom 12 in EPA per attempt.
37:28They were 31st in yards after contact per rush.
37:31Not great. You've got RJ Harvey to choose from.
37:34ADP 87. Also very late for an RB1, depending.
37:37He had three top 10 weeks, two top five.
37:40So there is some ceiling because of the rushing floor.
37:43JK Dobbins, ADP 100. No top 10. Again, it's all kind of rushing impact.
37:48This one, I put that phrase I mentioned before, thunder and lightning, because this really is the closest we have to it.
37:55Dobbins is all the important ground yards. And if they're down, he's kind of out and they go right to Harvey.
38:01So you have like weekly floors where you can get games scripted out.
38:05They both seem start worthy on a per week basis, though the Broncos have been known to go to RB3, 4, and 5 sometimes.
38:13Yeah. I've been finding myself kind of out, though Harvey's been one of the fallers, Jake.
38:18And when I've seen him in the triple digit ADP, I've seen him at pick 100.
38:23Then I'm jumping on board. Dobbins not so much because I like my running backs to catch.
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41:45Granted, that was because J.K. Dobbins got injured and Harvey came in and he looked solid.
41:50But I'll be honest, John, I hate this backfield.
41:53I hate it with a burning white hot passion because here's the thing.
41:57I know that J.K. Dobbins is going to lead this backfield in touches until he gets hurt.
42:03But I don't know when that's going to be.
42:05And I'm not sure that I even care because as you said, Dobbins doesn't catch passes.
42:11Last year, 10 games, he had 11 catches. He had more games with negative receiving yards than games with double-digit receiving yards.
42:18So you're just banking on touchdowns with him. And Jonah Coleman, the rookie comes in, who I've started to grow to like
42:25a lot, especially in Dynasty, he's a legitimate three-down running back.
42:28So I think he's more competition for Dobbins straight up than Harvey or Jaleel McLaughlin were last year.
42:34So I think the bull case for any of these guys, and it's pick your poison, but the bull case is the
42:41Broncos take a step forward as a scoring offense.
42:44You know, they bring in Jalen Waddell. Bo Nix just continues to improve.
42:48All that's great. We expect them to throw less because they threw a ton last year, 600-plus passes from Bo Nix.
42:55You know, Bo Nix's late season ankle injury. Maybe he doesn't take off and run himself so much.
43:01And he gives that to the actual running backs on the field.
43:04But I don't know. It just feels like even when Dobbins was healthy last year, he was the RB 24 in points per game.
43:12That's fine. That's where you're drafting him. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.
43:17But I don't know that we're getting 10 games, John.
43:20What if we get five games of J.K. Dobbins as sort of this fringe RB 2?
43:25I don't know. I kind of just don't even want to deal with it.
43:30I don't think Harvey did anything to usurp Dobbins this year.
43:33So I'm not banking on him. And yeah, Jonah Coleman is somebody I'll probably just look at for a midseason waiver pickup, assuming that J.K.
43:41Dobbins gets hurt. Yeah, I'm with you. Coleman passes a lot of the sniff tests, usage and abilities in both sides of the game.
43:49But it's always going to be difficult because, you know, last year we saw it.
43:54You mentioned Jaleel McLaughlin, right? He had at least four carries in eight of their last nine games.
43:59Those are touches we want. And as if like that wasn't bad enough, you know, Tyler Beatty made at least one grab in more games than not.
44:08And it doesn't sound like a lot. But when a split backfield is sacrificing 789 RB touches, that's a bunch of snaps
44:15and it just hurts everybody across the board. I guess I'm still taking Harvey as like a flex pick, but I'm with you.
44:23Let's say you talk me off and I was already kind of heading towards the ledge.
44:28I'm going to stick with my if Harvey post 100, then press yes button.
44:32But other than that, I'm really out. Like you mentioned, not only are the Broncos really creative with usage, they brought in
44:39pieces, which is going to shake up that Etch-A-Sketch again.
44:42Jake, that was really awesome. And we got through all six teams.
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