0:00Wait until you see how freaking lucky I got, man. Wait when you guys see when I turn over the cards on my lineup, you
0:07guys are going to be like, "How does Davis keep getting away from this?" You know, normally the deal with this program is how does Nate keep getting
0:14away with it? Um, and Nate did get away with it with some degree today and uh we're we're going to castigate him for
0:21that. Now, Sammy, I got to say pretty much every single week in cash this year, there's been a pretty obvious team. There's been very few choices at
0:32quarterback. There's been very few choices at tight end. Very few choices at wide receiver. I did not feel that way today. I think you could have gotten
0:40away I at quarterback, I think you could have justified Jordan Love. I think you could have justified C.J. Stroud. I really, really, really tried to justify
0:50Bo Nix to myself. The um the last text message that I sent you guys before lock was uh actually a team that would not
0:59have beaten mine but was a much better uh team than than I ended up playing uh at the end of the day. I mean, I I I
1:09It was just crazy and I mean, it all stemmed from one game. There was one thing that really threw the projection
1:15system for a loop which was the playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
1:22So, that thrust Ted Hurst into being this big projection and honestly, um a little a little bit of Like, what would you even call this? The
1:32fact that Cade Otton projected so well despite it being it having been two years since we we witnessed this phenomenon of him turning into prime Rob
1:41Gronkowski when the wide receiver one for the Buccaneers did not play.
1:45>> Yeah, it's so there was a couple things.
1:48First of all, I thought the choices at tight end and quarterback were very obvious. Um, I wasn't going to be caught
1:55dead playing Bo goddamn .5 A dot nix.
1:59>> [laughter] >> And the people who did got some lucky ass 60 yard rushing touchdown.
2:06Congratulations to you, happy for you, but like is terrible terrible terrible idea to play Bo nix and you got away with it. George Kittle was the obvious
2:15tight end play. And as for Cade Auten, I mean I didn't give two squirts what the damn projection said.
2:23Because the projection was like depending on where you looked it was like a 10 point projection and it's like Cade Auten is going to get three for 36
2:31always. It doesn't matter who's out, who's in, he's just three for 36. He didn't even get that today cuz the game
2:38was wonky but like dude his his projection was higher than hit any game that he had scored this entire season.
2:46And you don't see that very often and it's like okay A. Egbuka's out like that's cool but like I just I just didn't see that and and I
2:54thought that was a pretty bad process play too. It's like look we we had a lot of good value at other spots. We had a
3:00lot of good value at running back with the lower guys like Braelon Allen, Woody Marks. Um you know How how is that a bad spot on Cade
3:08Auten? How can you do that? It's irresponsible.
3:10>> No. No, honestly like I do and I'm looking at so this spoiler alert this ends up not impacting my cash game
3:18lineups at all due to something we're going to get to but I am looking at all my tournament lineups and I am like
3:23what why was I passing up on all these incredible incredible good plays? Like why am I passing up on Braelon Allen? Why am I passing up on
3:34>> Cuz you had to have Bijan honest.
3:36Cuz you just had to have Bijan. I don't know why you wouldn't have >> whenever whenever Nate decides to show up I I will disagree with that as well.
3:44I did not think like I didn't play Bijan in any of my tournament teams. I didn't think Bijan was a particularly good
3:49play. I thought Gibbs was so superior to him. The reason why um I mean, so let's go let's work let's start at quarterback, right? So the the
3:58quarterback that everyone played was Jordan Love. He was the top points per dollar quarterback. I think he was 65% owned in the massive $50 double up. Um
4:07he he was the clear clear cash game quarterback. I mean, in terms of raw points, every site had him as a top five
4:16um you know, overall projected quarterback.
4:19>> And many sites had him as the top projected quarterback.
4:23>> Yes, and and he correlated very well with Golden, right? So Golden was if you if you've never if you've never played
4:31uh if you've never played um cash games before, like basically Golden is just kind of exactly what you look like. He's like he's got the he's got
4:39the safe floor. He has got the insane ceiling, right? Like Golden could have a 35-point nuke very very easily. It's kind of like he's kind of like a combo
4:48of like I don't know, Keenan Allen in terms of the short area stuff, but then he also has like the J Like he just
4:55everyone who is good at cash was was playing Matthew Golden. So I I thought I thought these were the locks.
5:01>> Uh cash game locks were Christian McCaffrey.
5:03>> I thought they were Matthew Golden, and I thought they were George Kittle. And then honestly, Kittle to me, I actually
5:11realized in my lineup too late that I could have just straight up played Brevin Allen over George Kittle. And I think if I had thought through that a
5:19little bit more, I might have even done that. My my top conviction my like top top conviction of the day was that
5:27Brevin Allen was just like the absolute 900 MW giga best play of the slate.
5:33>> And then and then me and Nate played him, and you didn't. And I didn't. Yeah, I Jesus Christ. I mean, you lucked the
5:40goddamn hell out. Um but I I mean, I I thought those guys were locks, and I thought I thought Jordan Love, I never want to call a
5:48quarterback a stone lock, but like a guy who I I don't I don't think Jordan Love is the top quarterback and he's
5:55only 6K. Like, how do you how do you not play that? I don't I I don't get that.
6:01>> Yeah, I mean, I don't think that Jordan Love was like because I think these are the only two scenarios where where in my
6:08experience you can ever have stone cold cash game locks where it is one of the elite fantasy quarterbacks in the slate
6:15where there's obvious value. So, that would be basically Lamar or Josh when you don't really have to sacrifice anything to do it or when there is like
6:24a $4,800 $4,900 $5,000 quarterback who is in a good match up and they run. I I don't The quarterback position is so
6:34narrow banded the way the NFL is now because you just don't have like quarterbacks don't throw for 400 yards anymore. Quarterbacks don't throw for
6:43four touch Like, this this is something that scoring is just too low and yards are too low. It just doesn't really happen
6:49anymore. Like, a a quarterback score you're going to get on a given week is between 18 and 32, right? And that that banded
6:59projection does not exist the same way.
7:02You can lose a 1v1 at running back by 27 points. Like, pretty easily. Like, oh like happens quite a bit. Like, 1v1
7:10today, Woody Marks versus Tony Pollard, which is something that a lot of people would have had in tournaments. You legit lost that by 30. You lost that 1v1 by
7:1930, you know? And and that just I mean, I guess if a quarterback gets injured um that can happen, but I before before I
7:26on Nate, I do got to say, Nate, you made the play of the day at quarterback.
7:31You made the play that I wanted to play because the very last thing that I looked at was Bo Nix Braelon Allen and the New York Football
7:40Jets defense versus Jordan Love, Cade Otton, and spoiler alert, a defense I didn't end up playing, but the the Dolphins defense was who I had
7:49um in my lineup, which everyone else did. The Dolph- How funny is this? The Dolphins defense, the most owned defense in cash.
7:57That's a good bit. That's a good bit by the field.
8:00>> Great great bit. I thought it was going to be Tennessee.
8:03Um and I think those $300 just ended up mattering to a lot of people. So, but Tennessee was clearly a a really
8:12good play.
8:13>> I mean, Nate, you you played uh you you played Nix, so talk about I mean, I was not coward like I had this lineup
8:20sitting on my lineup page when I ended my live stream at 11:59 and I said I can't click save. I can't I can't do it.
8:27I can't click save on the on the Bo Nix lineup, so how did you how did you get there?
8:32>> Well, I mean, I think Bo Nix was always like an option for me. I think that the way that this season has gone for
8:39him has been the lowest of the low possibility from like range of outcomes.
8:43He's only getting healthier. If there was ever going to be a spot, it was going to be this week for him. Um
8:49and I thought that the salary made it work with Braylon and the Puka, that which is really what I
8:57wanted to do the whole time. And so, um I felt I felt like the Love thing was was not worth like it wasn't worth not getting
9:07Puka in for. And so, I it wasn't that I thought Nix was that much of a better play than Love. Like I thought Love was
9:12great, but I yeah, I mean, I just wanted to make the plays that I thought were going to get me the most expected production. And
9:19even though the projections weren't jamming Nix and Braylon, I just I just did an IKB before locking was like no optimizer is giving me this, but
9:29this is what I want to do.
9:30>> I So, so that okay, that right there is why I was having such a piss-offing time building lineups this morning was
9:37because every stupid optimizer thing I looked at was like Ted Hearst, Cade Otton, Chris Godwin. These are all really good plays and I couldn't get I I
9:46legit could not get like Gibbs stuff to sim well. Like the the type of stuff that was simming well, um you know, what's funny is uh Malik
9:55Willis was simming really good on Run the Sims this morning and I was like Malik Willis, dude, get out of here. I
10:00got to jam in more Jared Goff. Like we'll we'll get to the tournament. We'll get to the tournament stuff in a little
10:04bit. But like I just thought optimal lineups looked bad. I just thought I was like they they're this is all just so
10:10fragile. It's it's so like I got a a bunch of questions about about Tez Johnson this morning in my live stream
10:17and I was like, you know what? That's fine. Like normally normally I would be like, well, how could you do that? But
10:23I'm like, no, because the projections between Ted Hearst and Tez Johnson are a total guess. We've never seen this configuration of players with Baker at
10:31quarterback ever. We we don't really know what it will look like. I mean, and and I bet if I mean, actually I bet if
10:36we look at the snap counts, they played a bunch of 12 cuz they were up by a billion. I mean, the the Hearst Otton
10:43stuff is so funny because Bryce Young played the like I like maybe the worst game of his life today.
10:50Uh there were there were um 11 dropbacks. Baker Mayfield had 11 dropbacks. I'm going to guess that's the lowest of his career. I I would guess 11
10:58dropbacks is the lowest of his career, but um Nate, you made the right play at quarterback. You did. I honestly, after
11:04after I think you play this slate over a thousand times, I actually think playing Bo Nix was the was the correct play. So
11:10I I would like to tip my I would like to tip my hat to you because >> I'm I'm not I'm not tipping any god damn
11:15such thing and I am wearing a hat. Won't be tipping it to nobody.
11:19>> Sammy, Sammy, you this is kind of one of those things that sometimes I know the numbers might lead you a certain way,
11:24but sometimes you just got to watch a little football and know when someone's a baller.
11:28>> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah, you just you just got to watch Bo Nix and know. Just know that like these dump offs to R.J. Harvey and
11:34slip screens to Marvin Mims are going to work out like that.
11:38>> that's what you're literally up for this. This was like >> That's what Bo Nix does. That's that's the whole offense.
11:43>> I know and that's not what I want. It's not what I want. I don't want it.
11:49>> No. No, Sammy, you know I you know I would rather side with you than Nate. I truly would, but Nate is right. Like
11:55Nick >> Yeah, yeah, no no no no no. It it's true. Congrats on your 222 passing yards and one passing touchdown. Good for you.
12:03I'm happy for you. You know, it's >> It's it's more It's more about It's more about the other plays that your lineup
12:11allowed. I honestly it really is more about >> Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, it allows you to play Kate Otten in the in the goddamn
12:18flex. Like, you know, whatever.
12:20>> Well, no, I guess I guess Nate didn't do that.
12:23>> No, Nate Nate didn't play George Kittle.
12:25>> He didn't play George Kittle. I mean >> Nate did something Nate did something that I think is truly bad, but he's
12:31going to say is good. So, we'll we'll we'll get to that. So, uh you know what? We're further enough in the show. I'll tell you guys why I
12:37was able to [ __ ] smoke these guys by so much. Davis, here's the thing about run good. Davis, the only way Davis
12:42finally beats me is by getting 28 points from his freaking defense. Buddy, I I was I was like I mean, I think this lineup I
12:52played is dog water. I think it's terrible. I think this this team I played This team I played is is pure um
13:01I I was just afraid of the projection. I I I must have swept. I couldn't Oh, I I like won double ups. I I I
13:09believe >> You must have swept like me and you and Nate basically had the same score and we swept everything.
13:14>> I don't think I literally don't think I lost a head-to-head.
13:17Um so, I played I I played Jordan Love, Bijan Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Matthew Golden, Ted Hurst the Third, George Kittle, Kate
13:27Otten. Davis, how did you sweep? Well, I played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense who got 27 fantasy points. Why did I
13:34play Why did I play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense? I'll tell you guys why I played the Buccaneers defense. I'm sitting there looking at this lineup and
13:40I'm like, first off, this is the worst train in the history of trains in cash games. Like it's just so bad that I'm
13:47not even going to feel like So, when you win with the train, you know, you you can kind of just be
13:53like, all right, well, you know, I won, like whatever. Let's move on.
13:56If I lost with this team going in where I'm like, this team sucks, dude. I have Ted Hurst, I have Cade Otton, I'm
14:02playing two tight ends. It's just uh it it's just like it's a it's a bad team.
14:07It's a it's a it it's truly not a good team.
14:10And I just thought, okay, well, what is the simplest 1 v 1 I can do to just like create a little bit of positive
14:16variance? Well, the simplest 1 v 1 is always defense, right? So, and it's like what the Dolphins defense is going to be
14:22How could the Dolphins defense chalk be good?
14:25You know, it's just like I'm not even saying I'm not I didn't do anything smart. I didn't do anything clever. I I
14:30played I played bad. Like the the team that I wanted to play was Bo Nix over Jordan uh Bo Nix instead of Jordan Love.
14:39Braelon Allen over Cade Otton.
14:42And um I don't know, some other some other I think I Well, I was also trying to not play Amon-Ra St. Brown,
14:50but there was no There really wasn't a good receiver to make it work. There was Oh, okay. Well, the thing I did almost
14:57do this, which would have been a hilarious L, is I almost played Keenan over St. Brown to get Braelon over over
15:04Cade Otton, which would have been >> good.
15:08>> Well, Braelon would have scored, then it would have been then it would have been equal.
15:11>> Yeah, Braelon should have scored. That was so >> Braelon It It was so It was so funny.
15:15Braelon takes them down. Braelon takes them down to the one. They get four plays from the one, and they end up
15:22kicking a field goal from the 17.
15:25I mean, it's just classic.
15:28>> back, like, what you doing? Like, of course the Jets lose. Like, >> Yeah, of course of course of course the
15:33Jets lose. But, I mean, it's just like I really at the end of the day I just hated this lineup so much. I think this
15:40is bad. I think no I think no Gibbs is I think no Gibbs like Bijan said, all right, well, hey, my guy MBF said the
15:47Keenan and Breylon team did fine. So, I mean, Breylon scored a lot of points.
15:51So, and a lot and like Breylon outscored Marks by what? Like, 12? He he like Breylon was like a top I mean, certainly
15:58a top 10 uh running back score on the slate. McCaffrey got banged up, which sucked, but like I don't know. Nate, tell me like this
16:06lineup sucks. Just say like even if it even if it had the Dolphins on it, this lineup is objectively not good.
16:12>> Yeah, I don't I I mean, it's a safe lineup is what it is. And I think that's the >> It's it it it's safe because you know in
16:19the in the way that cash games are played these days, everyone is going to be on Hurst and Auten and all that. And
16:25so, your risk of a zero at 80% owned is like not that >> does I Those guys are not the part that
16:30matters. I think my way of evaluating this is that giving up whatever from Bijan to Gibbs, although I think Bijan to Gibbs ended up
16:39scoring close cuz Gibbs ends up not having like that great of a game. But, it just to me it just >> twice to not get a touchdown at the end.
16:47>> Yeah, it it just it just feels >> have and may have >> sprained an ankle in the process.
16:52>> I think he did. I think he did. I I don't know. It's just like >> He twisted that he twisted that [ __ ]
16:56up pretty good, it looked like.
16:59>> And and Love um you know, Love over Nick's is real cowardice. Like, playing Saint Brown Like, Saint Brown's always a good play,
17:07but I didn't think he was like anything like a cash lock or whatever. And then honestly honestly Kittle instead of instead of um
17:16Breylon Allen, you know, it doesn't really >> Yeah, I I I don't think I would have done that. I think I would have gone
17:21with Braelon Allen. Even though it felt like very strongly that Kittle was going to smash. I know National Tight End Day
17:27is like not an actual thing that matters to scoring, but somehow it does.
17:32Um and I'm powerless to to argue with it. Uh and all the pass receivers were out, but like man, yeah, Braelon Allen
17:40is like dude, he's getting like 15 plus carries and five plus targets every game. He's giant, he's fast, he's playing a bad defense. Like that was
17:49you know, that was he was like such a great play. I can't believe you didn't play him. Like you were the one
17:53>> 17 carries, six targets. Braelon Allen is like a legitimate three down I mean he he he like yeah, he's his
18:02workload he he should be way way higher way higher priced.
18:05>> Yeah.
18:05>> Yes.
18:06>> Yeah, he >> And his talent level is there. He's not a dust ball like what like a lot of these other guys we play for volume. We
18:12don't also >> he's not Woody Marks.
18:14>> No, he's a legitimate run. I mean he's like every time he has the ball he could easily break one for 60 yards.
18:19>> Well, no, he can't do that cuz he's not very fast, but it's more just like you know that he's going to turn
18:25>> Size adjusted he's fast.
18:27>> Well, size adjust but size adjusting doesn't help you score 60 yard touchdowns.
18:32Helps you helps you score like 27 yard touchdowns where you break like three tackles for sure.
18:38>> all about the Brandon Jacobs.
18:40>> Yeah.
18:41>> Yeah.
18:41>> Derrick Henry is like a word.
18:43>> So Nate, I I got to say my lineup is cowardly for sure. Didn't did not deserve to win nearly as much as I did.
18:50>> And you got and you got lucky with the bucks. I mean that's essentially what it is.
18:53>> So so yeah, so lucky.
18:55>> It's a 18 point swing for you and I think you're probably are you bubbling at that point or no?
19:01>> Uh I have no idea.
19:04Well, no, MBF MBF said MBF said he won with the Keenan and Braelon version of my team. So no, probably still wins.
19:10>> Cuz it's the Dolphins was a 24 point swing for you.
19:14>> Well, here, what's the Here, I can go look at whatever the cash line was in the >> Yeah, I feel like if you scored 24 fewer
19:21points, Davis, uh you probably would've won.
19:24>> So, cash line in the massive $50 double-up positions paid 400.
19:29So, if I scroll down to four That's a long scroll down to 400 from where I'm at.
19:34>> Yeah, that's great.
19:35>> Oh, so it's This is just the train team.
19:37So, so you know what would've happened?
19:39The train team returned $51.31.
19:43So, I would have cashed and I would have won $1.31.
19:48>> [laughter] >> But But you know what? You know what?
19:52>> You deserve to win $1.30. Like, that's >> what, guys? I mean, do you know what is You know what is obviously so [ __ ]
19:58funny?
19:59Is there's no shot I would have stayed with the zeros from Tederst and Kincaid?
20:04And I'm still >> Yeah, you would've done something stupid.
20:06>> But But no, because I would have swapped to Bo Nix and Jaylen Waddle, which is what I did in all my tournament teams,
20:12which means I would have won.
20:14>> Yeah.
20:16>> That's Dude, okay, that's really that's really funny.
20:18>> That's That's tough. We missed a We missed a Davis gets there with the swap week. Hate it.
20:23>> All right. So, Nate, I I got to say, Puka Nacua in cash games on DraftKings.com, I think this was a
20:31brilliant move in tournaments. I think I It's something that I did. I planned to play Puka on some teams. I totally
20:37agreed with your thinking like Puka is going to be a unknown, yada yada, all all this, all that. I don't um I don't
20:43think I I think your your logic is is sound. I like the Bo Nix play.
20:50I think that um I think that Puka in the flex is crazy bad.
20:57>> I mean >> Yes.
20:58>> I think there's there's something to this idea of like when Puka is one of, if not He's one of the most talented
21:04receivers in the league. I In top five talented receivers in the league. Um and you expect him to be at full workload,
21:12which he was. He ended up getting 11 targets for another 35% targets per route run with a nearly point eight wapper. Uh
21:22I'll take it. I mean >> Playing playing him over Puka is [ __ ] crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.
21:28>> Playing him over Puka Playing him over CMC is [ __ ] crazy. It's crazy, Nate.
21:34It's crazy, dude.
21:35>> Bonkers, brother. Bonkers.
21:38>> No. I I No. Puka in this spot >> [laughter] >> If he is all week long and Puka is healthy
21:43>> Puka would have been the play in cash.
21:45>> No. I Look, I agree. You know what? Play him over Bijan.
21:49>> There's no Davante. All of the end zone risk that that Puka normally carries is not there. Kyren is in the dog house.
21:56They're This was >> Devon Achane scored two touchdowns. What are you talking about? Dude, CMC CMC outscored Puka and CMC was gone for half
22:04the goddamn game. Like unbelievable, Nate.
22:06>> Dude, no. No. No. CMC The Puka thing Puka with no Davante and Kyren in the dog house is legitimately like one of
22:14the best plays on In the fact that it's like >> Why was Kyren in the dog house?
22:19>> Because he was talking bad in the locker room. Uh McVay's mad at him. He's He was He was half benched this game. He
22:25was splitting with Kyren.
22:27>> He was splitting with You're You're touching too much grass, bro. You got to take a step back.
22:32>> No. You got You guys got to get out a little bit. I seriously this Puka's thing was a smash.
22:37You're lucky Puka >> Nate's telling me I got to get out a little bit because I didn't [ __ ] play
22:42four wide receivers in cash. When's the last time it's been correct to play four wide receivers in cash? Like 2022?
22:49Nate Nate, this is also frankly Look, I'll even grant you that whatever. St.
22:55Brown over CMC? That's That's where I got to draw the line. I got to draw drawing at St. Brown over CMC.
23:02>> Egregious.
23:03>> I I actually frankly shout out to Rich Hair because I wouldn't have even I was so perturbed by CMC not being in the
23:09lineup. I didn't even realize that's just a straight-up 1 V 1. You just straight-up 1 V 1 Saint Brown. There's no way that's good. There's no way.
23:16>> There is There is no way, man.
23:18>> There's no way. No No planet, mate. No planet is that okay.
23:24>> Wait wait Did you have any money left over in this lineup? Was there a hundred left over or was it
23:29>> I don't even know. I Again, I like >> Well, it doesn't matter because CMC was 7,600.
23:34>> No, I'm telling you >> But but but what I'm saying is if he was 2,600 less than Amon-Ra, he could
23:38have gotten the Titans defense potentially.
23:40>> I I can't remember the last time I played a non-optimized lineup. Like this was literally just me manually going into the user interface and like
23:49I'm clicking around. I'm going I'm I'm going to get the most expected production out of this lineup. I just will.
23:54And I think >> is the kind of [ __ ] Let me just say this is the kind of [ __ ] that I've been
23:58doing, okay?
23:59>> Yeah. I'm just like >> a This is some real Sammy [ __ ] my kids hanging over me.
24:04>> I got kids running around me and I'm like, "You know what? You know what? I could get Bijan, Amon-Ra, and Puka all in the same lineup. Like
24:13the rest The rest be damned. I'm going to do it. And cuz those guys are just going to like smash everybody. And it's
24:19just like terrible play. Like I I mean, Nate, how do you play How do you play Amon-Ra over CMC? Why'd you do that for?
24:29>> I would do it again.
24:30>> No, you wouldn't.
24:31>> play this team again. I would genuinely play this team again.
24:34>> No. No.
24:35Nate, this is [ __ ] crazy.
24:38>> Oh my god, he's doubling down, folks.
24:40He's doubling down.
24:42>> Amon-Ra got 11 You're telling me I get 22 targets out of Amon-Ra.
24:47>> [laughter] >> CMC had like seven or eight targets and he was gone half the game, bro. Like they had no other players. Clearly they
24:55were going to do everything through Kittle and CMC. Like that of course they were going to do that.
25:01>> CMC had 14 points on the first drive, Nate. You lived You could have eaten a 50 burger. You could have taken a 50
25:09burger from CMC to the chin.
25:12No, dude. This is okay.
25:14>> I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not giving in here. I like >> No.
25:18>> I dude, I am not giving in here.
25:20>> Nate just IQ'd it. He's like, "Forget the projections. I want to play Puka Nacua. Nobody else is going to play
25:25Puka. Puka's going to smash and I'm going to win the whole slate in cash." Like Nate, dude, you are off your
25:32rocker. You lived to tell about it. You can't keep getting away with it.
25:35But yet you did. I I don't I I don't know how you're justifying this after the fact.
25:41I mean, we're on What year of this is the podcast? Or is this like year eight?
25:45>> This is like year >> This is like year 12.
25:48>> Yeah.
25:48>> Okay. All right. All right. Nate's 12-year streak of not taking the L is intact. We're good to go.
25:55>> No, I I actually think that's I think that's not fair.
25:58>> Puka didn't even need to be competitive in this game. If he needed Puka he would have had three touchdowns.
26:03>> I believe to be fair, Nate did take the L in his third consecutive week of getting four points from Jakobi Meyers.
26:10I think I think [laughter] in the third I think the third week of I believe it was the week before he was traded to the
26:16Jaguars. I think Nate said, "Okay. All right. I think that's a little [ __ ] up to keep playing >> I think I had some Geno Smith double
26:22triple quad stacks in cash three weeks in a row or something.
26:26>> [laughter] >> No, I I'm Nate, I I just like actually like I didn't even realize until going through your lineup play-by-play that
26:35you played CMC over Saint Brown or Saint Brown over CMC. I mean, that's just completely insane.
26:40Uh Mr. Whirling Dervish, you played Jordan Love, Christian McCaffrey, Jaquavious Woody Marks, Amon-Ra St.
26:47Brown, Matthew Golden, Ted Hurst III, George Kittle, Bralon Allen, and the Dolphins defense. I don't hate this lineup nearly as much as I as I thought
26:56I would. I thought I would hate a cottonless lineup uh more cuz to me curious you guys how you guys thought
27:05this. I thought Hurst was more fragile than Otten of of the two. It's just it was harder to fill a wide receiver spot, but if you weren't
27:14playing Bijan Like Nate, are you kind of having the same thought of I am is like where did Sammy's money go?
27:21>> I I think this is the third week of this year where I think drafting went into Sammy's account and like [laughter] he
27:26has like some setting in the API where he only gets 48,500.
27:30>> No, you I look at the lineup and I'm like What Where did it go? So he plays like >> last week last week I played so bad and
27:38I took the L. I said I played bad, all this stuff. This week I definitely played the best of the three of us. Like I don't think there's
27:45any question about it.
27:47>> see, I I'm going to I'm going to go ahead and disagree because you have Woody Marks in your lineup. So I think
27:52the >> Okay, that's This is a fair critique >> is Braelen Allen for Woody freaking Marks.
27:59>> No, no, no, he's got Braelen. He's got He's got Braelen.
28:01>> I have Braelen.
28:02>> them both.
28:03>> Oh.
28:04You faded Bijan. Oh my >> Fading No, no, Nate No, Nate's Nate's overreacting. Nate's overreacting. I'm fading Bijan is fine.
28:12>> No, fading Bijan without Brian Robinson is not fine in any way, shape, or form in this spot.
28:17>> No, it's it's fine.
28:19>> Thank you.
28:20No.
28:21You guys [snorts] You guys You guys are insane about this Bijan thing. Fading Bijan with Brian Robinson >> Okay, fading Bijan with no Brian
28:29Robinson Khalil Khalil Herbert took every touch that that that Brian Robinson would have. Every single one. He got like he got like nine touches.
28:37>> That is correct.
28:39>> No one scored a touchdown.
28:41>> Yeah. No, it it it doesn't it doesn't matter.
28:44>> so so Woody Marks Let Let Let's talk about Woody Marks for a second cuz Woody Marks does suck. He's always suck He continues to suck.
28:52>> Yeah.
28:54>> He's so bad.
28:5519 carries and well, a target. Right?
29:01I mean This This is a This is a fine play for 5,600 and you're you're just getting like plenty of workload.
29:09Jordan was out.
29:12David Montgomery was out. They're playing a [ __ ] ass Giants team at home in the dome.
29:18I think Woody Marks was a was a totally fine play.
29:21>> He was He was totally He was totally fine. I I don't I don't disagree, but I think what I would have done if I was looking to
29:31not do this is I I wouldn't have played Hurst or Auten, I think. If I was looking to If I was looking to do that,
29:38I think I would have just done Nicks.
29:39Well, probably honestly probably Nicks Waddle, right? Nicks Waddle instead of Love Hurst isn't that better?
29:46>> [snorts] >> To just to just get off the >> Yeah, I mean not not playing Hurst is definitely good.
29:52I I legit I legit thought Hurst was a good play. I mean Hurst, you know, that game went wonky. I don't
29:58think we can take any else here.
30:01That being said, Nate, you I think you were late when I said like Kade Auten get his projection like those three for
30:0636 or four for 28 every week. Like every week. I thought he was legit capped at like 7.6 fantasy points.
30:16And I didn't feel like putting that in my lineup. Like I just I just didn't. I I thought this You know, I I I had the option to do I
30:26think it was Auten and Bijan instead of like Marks and uh >> Well, yeah, that's what everyone else did.
30:37>> Yeah, and and I just thought, you know what? I I'd rather have two 20 20 touch backs than Bijan and a tight end with zero
30:44upside.
30:46Um and I'd do it again.
30:49I think that was sharp.
30:54>> I I don't know.
30:56>> And I And I wasn't playing 0.5 yd A dot Bo Nix.
31:01Uh like that that wasn't an option for me. So, I'm glad people did it. Again, you know, congrats to you guys but I
31:07think that >> Bo Nix was definitely an option.
31:10>> He definitely >> was definitely in play. I I I don't hate the Woody Marks thing as much as I'm giving you crap for because you also did
31:16play Breylon but but I to do that without getting Puka feels crazy. You You paid down at the two running back value positions and
31:25what did it get you? First and Amon-Ra.
31:27Like I So, it's like I don't know. If I'm paying down at both of those running back value positions, I'm 100% getting Puka. So, I
31:37just see Puka and Bijan different than you two and I just like Yeah, Puka and Bijan, their workload is is like
31:48>> Nate Whatever, whatever, I don't care.
31:51I'm giving you I'm giving you the dunce cap of the day for [ __ ] not playing Christian McCaffrey, dude. It's
31:56completely insane.
31:58>> I mean, McCaffrey in this spot at this price was he 7,600? Like $7,600 McCaffrey >> third highest team total of the slate in
32:08the dome, just like uh dude, it's it's I I actually can't believe it.
32:14>> Yeah, you're Dude, you're so lucky that CMC didn't just windmill dunk your bankroll away today.
32:19>> You You really You really are. You really are.
32:24But whatever, we know he's not going to We know he's not going to take the L.
32:27So, now you know what?
32:28>> I think Puka could have easily put up 35 here.
32:31>> I've done enough gloating. You guys can now point and laugh at me because holy did I play bad in guaranteed prize
32:39pool tournaments on draftkings.com today.
32:42I will go ahead and pull up Here we go.
32:45Let's let's see let's find my team in the red zone because I don't even know what I played in here, but man I bet
32:50it's terrible.
32:52>> [laughter] >> Minus 29% field aware ROI sounds about right. Low correlation edge badge independent field ROI. I was you know
33:01what's funny? Simmed well pre-lock.
33:04>> Yeah, it's zero zero duplication cost.
33:07>> [laughter] >> Didn't have to worry about that.
33:09>> And this lineup was 121 actual points.
33:14Jordan Love, Christian McCaffrey, Chuba Hubbard, which oh boy did I think that was sharp man. I thought I thought oh dude Chuba so sharp no one's going to
33:23play him. Everyone's playing everyone's playing Woody marks dude got to play got to play.
33:31So bad so bad. Jamo Shout out to Jamo.
33:35Jaylen Waddle ask me how that went. Ask me how ask me how the Jaylen Waddle play went boys.
33:42He had like I don't know what four four for 38 and got hurt.
33:47Four for 38 with the injury. You absolutely love to see it.
33:50>> get injured?
33:51>> He did. He did yeah.
33:52>> Oh yeah.
33:52>> Not not a big >> On like an end around and he fumbled and then got hurt for his efforts.
33:58>> Now now this is you know another really interesting which is that Waddle also because there are so many [ __ ] like
34:05me who are stupid that also played Jaylen Waddle because they were like Dude Bo Nix can't possibly be this bad right? And Jaylen Waddle the peripheral
34:17numbers for Jaylen Waddle they're fine.
34:19It's okay. You can play Jaylen Waddle.
34:21You can't you can't play Jaylen Waddle.
34:24I also played Tyler Higbee on this team.
34:27Absolute No no not sharp because it turns out >> Kobe Parkinson 48 yards, Davis Allen two touchdowns. I played a lot of Tyler
34:36Higbee on a prize picks today.
34:39>> And then I played I played Braylon Allen and I correlated with the with the Jets.
34:46Yeah, just like was a no hoper. Now, the reason why they're still chalk on this team like why I didn't swap off of Jordan
34:56Love um was because I didn't play on this team I did not play Hurst and I did not play Auten. So, I thought,
35:05"Hey man, like it's it's fine, right?
35:07You don't you don't play Hurst Auten and you you can kind of you can kind of do whatever you want." which I thought was
35:14was okay. Now, the other lineup I want to pull up. Did you guys play in this $150 milli?
35:21>> No.
35:24>> Yeah, I thought it was $150 to enter.
35:2819,000 I think total entry spots in them. I thought it was like I I thought >> I missed it.
35:35>> Yeah, I didn't even see it, dude.
35:38>> Are you guys serious? It was like literally it was like literally the top bar in the lobby all week. I literally
35:43don't know how you would have possibly missed this.
35:47Here you go. This is >> I would have won, so it's cool.
35:51But I would have played.
35:52>> The 2.25 milli mid-season warm-up millionaire and $1 million to first.
36:00>> Yeah, no I didn't.
36:01>> So, here is a team that I did do a swap on and I think I was I was most certainly
36:07right to do it. So, I come into this game Titans defense five points, 22 points from Braylon.
36:14I played 21% owned Cade Auten with a zero, zero percent owned zero points from Ted Hurst.
36:21I swapped from Goff St. Brown something I don't I don't exactly the specifics. Um but I kept Gibbs in cuz the whole
36:32the whole plan for the whole plan for this team was for it to be a Lions onslaught. I wanted to make my guy Nate proud. I I think it it
36:40might have even been Goff, St. Brown, Waddle or or something something like that. Or sorry, Goff, St.
36:48Brown, James No, this is obviously what it was. It was Goff, Gibbs, St. Brown, Golden.
36:56And then I And then I swapped off Golden to Waddle, uh St. Brown to Puka, uh Goff to Nicks is is what I did on
37:05this one. I I mean, I actually thought that was a a pretty good swap. But I don't know, like were you guys going through and swapping
37:12off of first odd and teams cuz I was? Cuz I was just like, "There's just no I'm not even going to min cash with these jabronis."
37:19Like I'm not even even if I get 45 from what I'm like, "I got to do something else."
37:24>> No, I didn't.
37:25>> I didn't play any K Allen. Like zero K Allen for me. Thanks.
37:31Yeah.
37:32>> Shout out to you, Sam.
37:33>> I'm not going to win a goddamn tournament with K Allen in the lineup.
37:35Like lost your damn mind.
37:40>> Well, valid.
37:41Uh >> Thanks.
37:43>> No, I mean, here I wonder what I just I haven't even looked. I wonder what team won. Uh shout out to
37:48Swidby for shipping the mid-season milli with a Shawn Watson, Christian McCaffrey, Tony Pollard, Puka Nacua, Tee Higgins, Casey Concepsion, George
37:58Kittle, Harold Fannin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers team.
38:02>> Damn, this lineup is sharp as [ __ ] dude.
38:05>> This lineup's actually sick. Yeah, shout out shout out to you.
38:07>> [laughter] >> Yeah, this is this is beautiful, dude. A freaking Browns onslaught with a Pollard bringback.
38:13Um notice he does have Christian McCaffrey on it as the good chalk, though.
38:19Notice.
38:19>> Nate's all No, no, he also has Puka Nacua. He does.
38:22>> No, notice he has Puka Nacua dead. The lineup If you actually look at the context of the lineup, it's better that
38:28he has Puka in there, dude. Um All right, did you guys play anything Did you guys play in the the big red
38:34zone? Nate, did you?
38:36>> Um I I think I did all the spies. I don't think I did red zones this week.
38:39>> Yeah, I got to go to the spy, mate.
38:41>> I played terribly. I mean, I I literally had Hurst everywhere. I don't think I cashed one of my higher dollar
38:47>> I was I was going to say I legit I I legit went I I will show you guys if I
38:52can find my contest page somewhere. I I'll legit show to Look, I show you the good things. I show you the bad things, boys. I I legit
39:02I think went over.
39:05Uh Oh, no.
39:09I I lost it. Okay, here we go.
39:11All right, there you go. Jordan Love team, $0.
39:14Jared Goff team, $0. Nick's team, $0.
39:17Stafford team, $0. Dude, the staff I I I swapped into a bunch of Stafford late as well because I was like I was like, "Oh,
39:24dude, like why can't Stafford throw for 304?" Which I think he he did. Did he throw for four or three?
39:31Just three.
39:32>> three. I think three. I'm glad to see a Christian Kirk uh play >> Dude, okay. Okay.
39:38>> I I I did play Christian Kirk in a in a lineup as well. So >> No, but this is actually this is
39:43actually tilting the [ __ ] out of me because they the the broadcast just said this very offhanded. They were like, "Oh, yeah, um
39:53they uh they told us he's the Hurst, the emergency wide receiver."
39:59You You didn't want You No one No one could report that beforehand? No one No one wanted to report that he was just uh
40:05the emergency receiver?
40:07What What the [ __ ] Uh so tilting.
40:10Um okay.
40:11>> Yeah, it would it would have been it would have been so sick to flip over Jordan Watkins in one of your lineups
40:16instead. You just be like >> One of my one of my one of one of the one of the ETR guys Easy he
40:22played a bunch of Pollard today and he had a he he did have a Jordan Watkins team.
40:29So shout out shout out to anyone who had the foresight to play >> Even even Cowering would have been would have been pretty saucy.
40:38>> All right Sammy you sent me a team what contest is this in?
40:43>> I think this is in the big spy.
40:46>> All right so read read it off to the people and tell them why you played it this way.
40:51>> Okay so I did a Burrow Chase and Higgins.
40:57>> I've got it pulled up you can I I'm I'm typing it you can >> Oh okay cool so so yeah so I did a Cincy
41:03stack with you know with with these guys it feels like Burrow just like always torches Baltimore. I mean he >> I don't know if it's true but it
41:12definitely does feel that way.
41:14>> Oh it's true man it's true. I mean you bring it up I mean he he destroys Baltimore and he wasn't having a great
41:20game but he ended up smashing pretty hard.
41:23I played CMC and Marks and I felt bad about that and and I wanted to put in Braylon instead of Marks. Um
41:32and I kept simming it and the sims just like it so much better with Marks in there and I was like and I should have
41:38just I K beat it honestly.
41:40Um Yeah would would have would have made a difference of of a few dollars for sure.
41:45So um But yeah you know I played Ted Hurst I I thought I thought Hurst was set up and again I'm not going to take like too
41:52many L's on yeah the the the Bucks stuff just cuz that game was so insanely wonky.
41:59But I didn't want to like have lineups without Kittle and McCaffrey. So I just played those guys and then our boy Tyler Higbee
42:09played him as well. I just thought you know we're going to double-tight end, Tyler Higbee like pretty set up.
42:16And you know, he was just part of a rotation as he is, and we're kind of chasing that dragon from like weeks
42:22three to five where he did really good.
42:25Um but they're clearly spreading it around their side ends. Davis Allen with a couple of >> I I actually don't I actually don't
42:30think there's any of that. I literally think it's all entirely completely random and that if you dug under the hood, like I bet
42:38when I do my Rick recap video tomorrow, it's going to be like, "Oh yeah, Higbee ran uh 77% of the routes, Parkinson ran
42:4552%, Davis Allen ran I bet I bet it's just going to be totally random. There you go.
42:51>> Well, well, it it it's going to be random in like a way that we probably can't predict. Like it's it's going to
42:57be They're going to like run their routes, and Stafford's just going to have his reads, you know what I mean?
43:02And like if they played a certain way, it goes to the the short guy, played a certain way goes to the medium guy, but
43:08they're doing like this three-tight end bunch a ton.
43:11And just running all sorts of crazy routes off of it, and yeah, I I I think it's probably not like really
43:16predictable.
43:18>> Yeah. Uh all right, -1.4% sim ROI uh with I'm assuming that we have actually I know this because I
43:29tried to sim it a bunch. We Run the Sims did not have Higbee as a very good play.
43:32Had him as as a kind of like a break-even play and and a little bit um to owned.
43:38>> So did they have Puka as a great play?
43:41>> Um we had his projection a little degraded. Um >> Got it. So where did the Where did the implied points go?
43:50>> You know what? You know what? No, no, we didn't. Puka I I bet if we run Here, Nate, give me a team cuz I bet if we run
43:55something with Puka, I bet it'll sim unreal.
43:58>> Let me see. Where's my >> Give me Give me what Give me whatever team you want to run.
44:02>> Um recent Puka Um Here's Uh
44:12>> But I I assume the reason why the Higbee stuff said is like whatever whatever our optimal probability for for Higbee was that the
44:20ownership would just going to be a little bit too high.
44:24>> All of my Puka stuff I didn't play much Puka in the high dollar stuff. I mean it was mostly uh lower entry stuff. I played very
44:31poorly. Um So I don't really have any good Puka teams to sim. Um >> [snorts] >> The one team that we I mean I guess
44:41here's what I played in the the same spot Is this the 350K spy, Sammy?
44:48>> Yes.
44:49>> Uh so the 350K spy I played What did I play in that one? Um Baker Bijan, CMC
44:59Puka Godwin, Hurst, Auten, Kyren, Titans.
45:05>> Bijan, CMC, Puka Hurst Auten Titans about just eating the chalk. And then who was the flex and third receiver?
45:17>> Uh Godwin and then Kyren.
45:21>> Godwin and then Kyren. I All right. I'm going to guess this actually does sim pretty well because the the best lineup that I got
45:32to sim this morning that the best lineup was playing these freaking [clears throat] jabronis with uh Baker. It was It was That was That
45:42was the way that it worked best.
45:43>> I mean I had a lot of That's That's why I That's why I did so poorly in tournaments. I had a lot of Baker, a lot
45:48of Hurst, a lot of um Godwin, and a lot of Auten. And so I mean Baker coming in at 1% when all these when all these guys
45:57are owned just makes absolutely no sense to me. I mean it's like these guys don't I don't know. If if these guys were to
46:04pay off, the chance of Baker also getting there was really high. And so Yeah, I thought Baker was a good play at
46:12his ownership. Uh he came in Yeah, super low. Uh and then I figured I could get a bunch of chalk around it
46:18with CMC, Bijan.
46:20Um and and I just yeah, went kind of high projection around it. And so Yeah, feel feel pretty good when I can
46:28get that low of a quarterback >> going to stack on something like that.
46:32>> So like I guess the way that I fundamentally view this because I just don't feel comfortable just pressing the the button and just playing
46:42the optimized teams, you know, is I view Hurst and Auten as ways to get in fancy plays that I want to play. You know what
46:50I'm saying? Like I'm like, oh, like sick, 3K guys are available. So now I can do whatever my love Watson golden
46:58stuff instead of thinking back like, okay, if these guys Well, yeah, okay, Sims are really well made. 23% same ROI, 1.5% top one.
47:07Um Which is >> Yeah, Puka Puka was such a good tournament play. Like such a good tournament play.
47:12>> agree, yeah.
47:13>> You know, in cash cash is a little tough. Um I get it. Like he's never a bad cash play. But certainly with the
47:19calf stuff he left.
47:21>> Well, I remember Nate was too [ __ ] scared to do this.
47:25>> On week three.
47:26>> And I I was the one who played $7,500 Puka. So if anyone if anyone has the right to say when Puka is a cash play, I
47:34think it's me.
47:35>> But I think there was a difference that week. I feel like Devonte was playing and >> Devonte is irrelevant to Puka Nacua.
47:44>> That that's incorrect, but okay.
47:46>> That's all Literally, Devonte is the target in the red zone. I don't know how you could possibly >> Well, well,
47:52so yes and no. I mean, they they definitely switched up like they they've been playing Puka. Like last year they did a lot of stuff where Puka wasn't on
47:59the field when they were like in that gold zone. And this year they play they've been playing Puka even with Davante out there. They played him a lot
48:08more near the goal line.
48:09Um so, yes, that's true, but then also Davante is certainly still a big red zone target. Um >> I mean, Puka's so Puka's Puka's
48:18touchdown expectation goes up significantly with Davante off the field. Like, it's it's significant.
48:24>> I mean, Davante Adams has how many how many receiving touchdowns this year, right? It's not like he goes out and all
48:29of a sudden those go to Mumphery or something like that. Like, maybe they get spread amongst the tight ends a little bit, but I
48:34>> Yeah, they go to Davis Allen.
48:36>> Yeah, but I do think Puka's going >> It's like the plays are for him to score. It's not like he randomly busts
48:42in there. It's like they'll get on the 3-yard line and it's like this is a Davante play. So, it's it's there is so much expected touchdowns
48:50that go Davante's way that with him off the field, Puka's projection goes through the roof. I mean, it's it's it's unreal. So, I
49:00Yeah, I'm not I I mean, I know I've like beat this horse to death, so I'm not going to say it again, but Puka was a
49:06great play.
49:07>> Well, tell it to the tell it to the bank examiner, Nate.
49:11>> Yeah, tell tell it to the bank examiner where where we all got swept.
49:14>> examiner this week, but >> Yeah, where we we made a combined $0 in GBPs.
49:21>> Yeah, not not ideal, but >> Not great for the Gilcast, but we but we swept cash, so, you know.
49:26>> That hey, that's all I want. If I can if I can pay for all of my bad GBP lineups by beating a bunch of knuckle draggers
49:32who play the Dolphins defense in cash, then let me let me have it, boys. All right, everyone. Make sure like the
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