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Answering My Subscribers Wide Receiver Questions | July Mailbag

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A.J. BrownChris BellChristian WatsonCourtland SuttonCyrus AllenD.J. MooreJa'Marr ChaseJayden HigginsJayden ReedJaylen WaddleJosh DownsMalik WashingtonMarvin Harrison Jr.Matthew Golden
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A.J. Brown

NegativeValue7:06

Matt Harmon expresses valuation concern about AJ Brown, stating he wishes Brown was "a round cheaper." While not wanting to be "totally out on AJ this year," Harmon believes the market is not pricing in enough decline signals, particularly in reception perception charting. He notes that Brown may play more Z receiver than X, which could help, but early camp reports suggest more X receiver usage. Harmon cannot justify Brown's current cost when he goes in the same range as Drake London.

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Chris Bell

NegativeRole29:16

Matt Harmon identifies Chris Bell as the only Dolphins receiver with a realistic path to becoming an every-down fantasy starter from a talent perspective; Bell can beat man press coverage and win down the field, fitting well into Miami's offensive scheme with breaking routes and play-action. However, Harmon expresses significant concern about Bell's practice time availability in the offseason, which he dislikes for receiver development, creating uncertainty about his actual playing time.

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Christian Watson

PositiveRole25:54

Matt Harmon expects Christian Watson to take the most snaps at X receiver for the Packers but notes his skills are best suited to being more of an off-ball receiver than expected, especially given his proficiency on big breaking routes. Watson was more productive on a per-route basis and more heavily targeted per route when Romeo Doubs was on the field than when off the field last year; Harmon attributes this to Watson's best usage coming when moved around to exploit matchups, which aligns with Doubs' outside-on-ball receiver role. Harmon expects Watson to maintain a fluid role with continued motion and alignment changes under LaFleur's dynamic offense.

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Courtland Sutton

NegativeValue9:00

Matt Harmon avoids Courtland Sutton at his current draft cost despite his productivity last year, characterizing him as "a straight up floor play with no real ceiling." Harmon prefers to shoot for more ceiling upside at that draft point, contrasting Sutton with later-round options like Puka Nacua and Reed Downs, noting that while the floor case is negligible between them, the ceiling case for those receivers is higher, making them better value targets.

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Cyrus Allen

PositiveSleeper23:14

Matt Harmon calls Cyrus Allen one of his favorite deep sleepers and believes he is the player in his dynasty rankings he is most ahead of market on. Despite being sub-6 foot and sub-200 pounds in a slot-based role, Allen can beat man coverage and should benefit from the Chiefs' improved coaching with Chad O'Shea and Venable running a tight ship.

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D.J. Moore

PositiveRole13:20

Matt Harmon highlights DJ Moore as an underrated dark horse candidate for the lone receiver in heavy personnel packages with the Bills. Moore already filled this role for the Bears last year. With the Bills able to load three tight ends (Dawson Knox, Dalton Concincaid, Jackson Halls), Moore's elite vertical plane skills make him a strong fit. His nine-route success rate was very good last season; his curl-route success rate was very high in a small sample. Moore also performs well on deeper stop routes that Josh Allen favors. Harmon sees Moore as a viable answer in single-receiver sets, suggesting he could be a productive option if the Bills load up with three tight ends on the field.

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Ja'Marr Chase

PositiveRole19:20

Matt Harmon uses Jamar Chase as a real-world example of how an elite number one receiver benefits from a strong number two. Chase evolved from being an X receiver-only player early in his career to someone who now moves all around the formation, gets more opportunities in motion, and operates off-ball in the slot—a transformation enabled by having Tee Higgins as a credible X receiver.

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Jayden Higgins

PositiveBreakout14:18

Matt Harmon highlights Jaden Higgins as a dark horse candidate for the Texans. Higgins impressed with strong separation ability on 90-degree breaking routes (digs and outs) run at high volume with solid win rate, plus a big post-route success rate. Harmon notes Higgins needs the right role catering to win—ideally as a big Z receiver when spread out, off-ball, with slot reps rotating with Jaylen Null. In single-receiver situations, he could be the lone option. Harmon compares his separation ability to Michael Pittman Jr. and emphasizes Higgins' ability to win on explosive shot plays; he's also a solid blocker. Nico Collins' health is relevant since Collins is strong in these same route situations.

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Jayden Reed

PositiveRole26:01

Matt Harmon expects Jaden Reed to take the most snaps in the slot for the Packers, though he notes Reed can also play outside as a Z receiver and has decent work off press coverage to play some X receiver as well, providing positional versatility across all three receiver alignments.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveValue1:28

Matt Harmon projects Jaylen Waddle as significantly undervalued at his consensus ADP of WR23/51st overall in half-PPR, believing he should rank closer to WR12. Harmon cites three key factors: (1) Waddle is an efficient receiver who wins at all three levels and beats man press coverage at a high rate on a per-route basis; (2) Denver runs substantially more plays than Miami did last year (Dolphins ranked dead last in plays run), providing higher base opportunity; (3) Waddle will experience a seismic role change from outside on-ball receiver in Miami to a movement Z receiver in Denver, allowing him to take a career-high percentage of snaps off the line of scrimmage and access more efficient targets in motion, similar to Brandon Cooks' 2016 role shift when Michael Thomas arrived. Harmon states he will be "really in on Waddle this year" and believes "the market has this one completely wrong."

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Josh Downs

PositiveBreakout38:10

Matt Harmon expresses confidence in Josh Downs having a breakout season this year despite concerns about not beating out Michael Pittman last year. Harmon acknowledges Downs was hurt early last season and couldn't get on the field due to heavier formations and positive game scripts favoring the run, but emphasizes that Shane Steichen will play Downs this year—he won't bench him for Nick Westbrook-Ikhine or other depth options. Alec Pierce being banged up further increases Downs' opportunity. Harmon is not nervous about Downs' projection and feels good about the breakout potential, though hesitant to go all-in due to the unknown.

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Malik Washington

NegativeRole28:48

Matt Harmon is uncertain whether Malik Washington has demonstrated enough evidence in the NFL to operate as a full-field outside receiver. While Harmon views Washington as a good and useful player, he lacks 100% confidence that Washington can function as a true outside guy, which limits his reddraft fantasy appeal.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveRole12:32

Matt Harmon identifies Marvin Harrison Jr. as a dark horse candidate for the lone receiver in heavy personnel packages (12, 22, 31 personnel). Harrison already filled this role when healthy in Drew Petty's offense with heavy tight end usage. The Cardinals can deploy Elijah Higgins (tight end/former receiver) as a clear-out player similar to Terrence Ferguson's role, freeing Harrison to run big in-breakers and out-breakers where he excels.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveRole26:01

Matt Harmon expects Matthew Golden to take the most snaps as the Z receiver for the Packers in the three-receiver alignment with Reed and Watson. Golden had a middling rookie charting profile overall but showed his best success rate against press coverage and is more of a vertical receiver. Harmon would like to see Golden take some X receiver work to keep Watson's role more fluid, as Golden's skills are best suited to being an off-ball receiver given his strength on big breaking routes.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeValue5:57

Matt Harmon views Michael Wilson's current draft cost as WR37 (89th overall) as reasonable given environmental factors, but cautions that the market may be overindexing on regression risk. Harmon emphasizes Wilson is "a really good player" with a solid role in Arizona's passing game, though questions remain about the team's overall offensive environment.

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Nico Collins

NegativeProjection42:06

Matt Harmon acknowledges Nico Collins is undeniably one of the top receivers in the NFL talent-wise, but has been frustrating and unreliable from a fantasy perspective. Harmon projects Collins as a back-half WR1 on a base case scenario and notes he will likely remain a little frustrating and inconsistent. However, Harmon sees potential for improvement: Collins could be moved around the formation more, and C.J. Stroud could be better this year after posting top-10 EPA per play last season, which could elevate Collins' production.

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Parker Washington

PositiveRole20:02

Matt Harmon ranks Parker Washington as Tier 5 in his dynasty rankings and identifies him as a vertical slot receiver with strong success rates on posts, corners, and dig routes. Harmon values Washington as a complementary piece who can work off the number one receiver—he's a credible downfield threat that allows the elite WR to get "layups" on concepts and serves as a clearout guy on big breaking routes.

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Pat Bryant

NegativeRole5:00

Pat Bryant is expected to fill the on-ball slot receiver role in the Broncos offense, similar to Willie Snead's role in the 2016 Saints offense when Michael Thomas was the X receiver.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveValue6:27

Matt Harmon views Puka Nacua as part of an undervalued group (Nacua/Reed Downs) being drafted in the 99th–120th overall consensus ADP range. Harmon notes that reception perception data tells a "really different story" than these players being throwaway options, and he explicitly states he will "be higher in the market on those three guys," indicating he views them as undervalued relative to their actual production metrics.

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Rashee Rice

NegativeValue8:00

Matt Harmon avoids Rashee Rice at his current cost as a low-end WR1, citing multiple concerns: injury risk, off-field risk, and role uncertainty. He notes that many other receivers in that range lack both injury and off-field concerns. Additionally, Harmon expects the Chiefs' run game to improve significantly with Kenneth Walker's arrival (Kansas City ranked dead last in explosive run rate at 2.9% over the last two years), which could reduce Rice's "scammy" passing game targets that served as run game extensions. This shift may diminish Rice's easy-button target opportunities. Harmon also expresses concern about Rice's chaotic offseason and uncertainty about whether improvement will materialize this year, taking a wait-and-see approach.

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Tre Harris

PositiveBreakout15:54

Matt Harmon identifies Trey Harris as a dark horse candidate for the Chargers. Harris, a second-year receiver, showed solid ability on breaking routes and brings an exceiver background from college, suggesting he could contribute in that role.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00What's going on everyone? Matt Harmon here. Welcome to another edition of Reception Perception, the mailbag. It's the July edition. Training camps are
0:07starting and you guys have a ton of great questions for me today. So, let's get into it.
0:20All right. As always, these questions come in from the reception perception community in the RP Discord. We have a free channel in there for you guys to
0:29throw your questions in. Every single month, we sit down right here on YouTube and do these mailbags. So, subscribe right now to the channel and join the RP
0:37Discord for free if you're a paid subscriber to the site. There are some better tiers available for you. However, you join for free so you can get into
0:44the mailbag action every single month.
0:47All right, with all that out of the way, let's get into it here. Uh, I put the questions into some categories for this
0:53episode here in July. I'm going to try to be a little more organized with these going forward. But our first category is
0:582026 fantasy football/IRRL predictions. And our first question there comes in from Beckfast.
1:06What's one receiver whose underlying reception perception data tells a completely different story than their fantasy ADP? And why do you think the
1:14market is missing it? I think the number one and best example here, and it's one I've been hitting for a while now, but I
1:22certainly believe that this one is just is really mystifying to me, and I think I have some pretty good explanations for
1:28it. It's new Broncos wide receiver Jaylen Wadd, who on Fantasy Pros consensus ADP right now is going off the board in half PPR formats as the wide
1:37receiver 23 51st overall. Um, if you guys have paid attention to the content, you know, maybe you're tuned back in right now, okay? Training camp's coming
1:46up, reddraft season coming up. I get it.
1:49I get it if you dip out during the summer. But if you guys have been watching the shows, reading the content,
1:55you know, I'm going to be way ahead of that number, way ahead of consensus on Jaylen Wadd this year. I think what the
2:03market is missing here on Wadd is actually a few different things. Number one, he's a really, really good player.
2:10As you're seeing on the route graphics right now, he's someone who can win at all three levels. He beats man press
2:16coverage at a really high rate. And the other part of this too is just like it's it's not just reception perception.
2:23Okay, this is one of the most efficient receivers on a per route basis last year. And I have to say per route
2:29because that leads me into the second thing that I think the market is really missing here. and that's that the opportunity that Wadd is going to get in
2:36this offense, it's just fundamentally different than what he had in Miami last year. Like, yes, I I think the the base
2:43reaction for folks here, you know, with Wadd already, he's kind of a guy that people are burned by. You know, there's
2:50been injuries on and off the field type stuff, and I get that. That's frustrating. Okay, I I do understand
2:57that part of it. But on the other hand, like what's important here is that the Dolphins were dead last in plays run
3:08last year. Dead last. And that's going to change in Denver. They were pretty heavy in terms of neutral pass rate.
3:16They ran a lot of plays last year. The opportunity for Waddle on a base standpoint is just going to be way
3:21higher here in Miami. And then the third, excuse me, than it was in Miami in Denver. Then the third thing that I
3:26think people are misunderstanding is that Wadd is going to get a pretty seismic role change in Denver throughout the course of the last few years in
3:34Miami when Tyreek Hill was there and even last year once Tyreek Hill got hurt because their second receiver was Malik Washington who I think is an intriguing
3:42player but is certainly a guy that you need to role cater to. Waddle has been the outside on ball receiver for the
3:48Dolphins offense. And even if they kind of are not super traditional with the receiver roles and and all of that, he
3:53kind of was the nominal ex receiver, which Wadd can do that. We saw the press man coverage success rates here. He he
3:59can get open. He can win in that formation. However, I I actually think he fits much better as like a movement Z
4:06type, which is the role he will be playing for the Broncos this year because Courtland Sutton is just a classic x receiver. if that's really his
4:14best and only position that he can be a starting level receiver at. So with Sutton as the outside on ball receiver,
4:21Wadd moving around the formation, I think he's going to take a careerhigh percentage of snaps off the line of scrimmage, which is going to allow him
4:29to be fully in motion at the snap. Some of those breaking routes that we saw earlier on the route graphic, he's going
4:35to be he's going to just get more targets on those, more efficient targets. I I think back to, and this is
4:42a uh example that I brought up on Football 301 with Nate Ty, like Brandon Cooks in 2016 had his lowest percentage of snaps on
4:52the ball that year, highest percentage off the line of scrimmage because they drafted Michael Thomas, who was the exceiver of that offense. I know people
4:59remember as a big slot, he was not. He was the exceiver. And then Willie Sneed was kind of that on ball slot receiver.
5:06And I think Pat Bryant ends up being that on ball slot receiver. Courtland Sutton is the X. Wadd's going to be
5:11moving all around here. The efficient targets will be there. I think there's a lot of ways the market is misreading Jaylen Wadd. To me, he should be closer
5:20to wide receiver 12 than wide receiver 24. I just think the market has this one completely wrong. I'm going to be really
5:28in on Waddle this year. I actually felt when they made the trade for him, I made this comparison on the show that I think
5:37he's going to be like Stefon Diggs was to Josh Allen for Bo Knicks and uh Davis Webb, who was the backup quarterback in
5:45Buffalo for portion of his career, now the offensive coordinator there in Denver. He actually made that same comparison at uh camp earlier this week.
5:53So, I thought that was interesting. So, two just a few more here to throw out here really quickly. Won't break these
5:57down in detail. I think you could argue Michael Wilson is one wide receiver 37 89th overall. I mean, he's not going
6:04super super aggressively or anything like that. He's not he's not going super late either. He's just kind of in a whatever zone of wide receiver threes,
6:10which I think is probably fine considering the environmental factors.
6:13But Michael Wilson's a really good player, man. Think I I do think the market is maybe kind of overindexing on the fact that
6:21regression is coming for him. Really good player. I think he's got a good little role there in the Cardinals passing game, but we obviously have
6:27questions about that team. And then there's no question that the Persaw Reed Downs group of 99th to 120th overall in consensus ADP. Obviously reception
6:36perception data tells a really different story than those guys just being kind of, you know, throwaway players, which is, you know, not completely throwaway
6:45rankings there. 99th to 120th overall, but I'm going to be higher in the market on those three guys. Of course, I really
6:50like the range of wide receiver there as you get into the later rounds. Okay, next question here from Big Lou and a
6:58bunch of numbers here. Who are three wide receivers who excelled in 2025 but you are avoiding at cost in 2026 for
7:06whatever reason. Let's get into a few of them here. Okay, number one, I I I wish AJ Brown was just a round cheaper. Okay,
7:15that's that's for me here. I think I wish AJ Brown was around cheaper.
7:20I don't like totally want to be out on AJ this year, but I don't think the market is pricing in enough that we did
7:26see some signs of decline.
7:28Certainly in his reception perception charting. Uh James and I did a whole conversation recently about how I could be wrong about that. So check that out
7:36on the podcast. Um threw a tweet about about it as well too. So uh it's definitely out there. Like if he plays
7:43more Z, I think that would help. But sounds like he might play more ex receiver than that based on early camp
7:48reports, but it is very early. I just wish again he was like a round cheaper.
7:52I just can't consider him when he goes in the same range of like Drake London.
7:55I I I just need him to be going around later there. I also think Rashi Rice, I mean, listen, I I know I'm lower than
8:01consensus on Rice maybe as a player, and perhaps that bleeds too much into my fantasy analysis, but I do think that
8:08where Rice is going right now as a low-end wide receiver, one, there's just so many other good receivers in that range that don't present both an injury
8:15and an off-field risk. Plus, I think there should be a little more concerned that the Chiefs move away from Rice and
8:23kind of the gimmicky, scammy targets. I do think he could be still a useful receiver as a big slot zone coverage
8:31beater. All the things I've talked about in reception perception, but some of those like easy button targets of his could go away if the run game is better.
8:40And there's just no way the run game won't be better with Kenneth Walker here. So, um, they were had a 2.9%
8:47explosive run rate the last two years, did the Kansas City Chiefs, which ranks dead last by a lot in the last two
8:54seasons. uh Walker will remedy that. And I do think if they're trying to hit more home runs in the run game, maybe they do
9:00less of the scammy passing game targets to kind of be the extension of the run game. So, I think that's worth noting
9:07there. Courtland Sutton's a guy that was pretty productive last year, but I I just won't be in on it cost this year. I
9:13think he's just a straight up floor play with no real ceiling. I'm shooting for a little bit more of a ceiling at that
9:20point of the draft. And again to go back to the last question, when you can pass on Sutton and get Persaw, Reed, Downs
9:28later, I'm going to take the ceiling shot on those guys because I think the ceiling case for those those guys are
9:34higher and I think the floor case is actually not like it's a negligible difference between them and Sutton.
9:41Lastly, I would just say we got to wait on Malik Neighbors injury updates. Um I he's somebody I want to be in on. No
9:47question about it. I like the fact that he didn't start camp on the PUP, but we still got a lot of hurdles to cross
9:52there with Neighbors. Uh, great great talent, a guy that is right there knocking on the door to be a tier one
9:57receiver based on his charting in a brief moment last year. But again, got to still wait on the injury news before
10:04we decide whether we're going to be in on him at cost this year. All right, next one up here. Pug nail asks sleeper
10:13pick who uh who could establish himself as a top 10 wide receiver. I'm thinking of this both from fantasy and a real
10:21life perspective and there's a lot of candidates I think I really like in terms of could jump into the top 10 wide
10:28receiver rankings just cuz in my mind I actually think that there's a tier drop off maybe around like nine or so. So
10:35there's probably a lot of guys just based on your opinion of the players who could creep in there just based on what
10:42happened this season. Like I would say that the tier probably goes from in real life wide receiver nine to ballpark at
10:50like 15 14 maybe even deeper than that honestly. So there's a lot of candidates but someone that I think could do it in
10:56both like be a top 10 receiver in fantasy and kind of cement themselves as a top 10 NFL receiver is Zay Flowers.
11:02Man, Zay Flowers at this point has been one of the best zone beaters in the NFL over the last since he's been in the
11:10NFL, he's been one of the best zone beaters uh that I've charted every single season. He makes explosive plays.
11:15He got even better against press coverage last year. Took a real big step forward winning against press coverage, like releasing quickly off the line of
11:25scrimmage against press. That to me is very similar to like the jump that Aman Rosane Brown made in his third season.
11:31fourth season makes another jump against press and now we know that St. Brown was one of the most involved receivers around the goal line last year like in
11:40scoring area. That's how he went from being, you know, a guy obviously a great player, always been a great player, but
11:46really took that next next step. And I do think Zay Flowers could be someone to make that jump this year. I really like
11:53Flowers charting data and everything it showed us. And he was a top 10 fantasy receiver actually over the full year last year as well. So I really like Z
12:01Flowers. I think he's kind of gotten a little underrated based on some of his early career mistakes. He's really established himself as a much more
12:07steady player, more consistent, and I think developing in some critical ways that could have him make like a year four leap. Honestly, he looked like he
12:15was about to make a year three leap last season before that offense kind of went to chaos after some Lamar Jackson
12:20injuries. All right, last one here in this section. KY Bourbon guy asks us, "Who are some of your darkh horse candidates to be the lone receiver out
12:29on the field when these teams load up with 12, 22, 31?"
12:34Yeah, the whole deal. All the personnel package, the heavy personal package, long and short of it. Honestly, I think Z Flowers is a good name uh because he
12:42can beat man press coverage and he can make explosive plays on downfield routes. He's always been so so good on those big outbreakers. He's someone to
12:50consider. I do think Marvin Harrison Jr.
12:53is another one. Honestly, kind of already was that player when healthy in Drew Petting's offense when this team throws out a ton of tight ends. And by
13:01the way, they have someone there on that Cardinals roster. Elijah Higgins, who is a tight end, used to be a wide receiver,
13:09could maybe mimic some of what Terrence Ferguson did as that clear out player out of 13 personnel if they want to get
13:15into that. And that would allow Harrison to run some of the big inbreakers and outbreakers that he's really good on as
13:20well. DJ Moore is another really interesting candidate to talk about here that I don't think gets discussed enough. Again, already was kind of that
13:31guy for the Bears last year when you look at the Bills roster if they're able to load up with three tight ends on the
13:36field, which absolutely could happen.
13:38Dawson Knox, Dalton Concincaid, again, Concaid could maybe be that clear out player. Um certainly not that fast, not as fast as Terrence Ferguson, but is a
13:46little bit of a vertical receiver. And Jackson Halls is the true blocking tight end. DJ Moore um is really good on the
13:53vertical plane. His nine route success rate was really good last season. His curl route success rate was really high in a small sample. I actually think he
14:00still works really well on those deeper stop routes. Josh Allen likes to throw those. I could see him being an answer
14:07in the, you know, kind of single receiver sets. Last two like deeper names I would throw out that maybe are the actual good answers to this question
14:16if we're talking about true dark horses.
14:18That would be Jaden Higgins, secondyear receiver of the Houston Texans, and Trey Harris, secondyear receiver, Los Angeles Chargers. Higgins, um, is someone that I
14:29actually was pretty impressed with his separation ability on those 90° breaking routes, digs, and outs. You see, he ran them at a high volume. He won them at a
14:39pretty solid rate as well. Big post route success rate there. I mean, I think that Higgins, you know, I was a
14:46little lower on Higgins as a prospect, maybe relative to some other folks, but still thought he was a day two receiver.
14:52He goes on day two, he goes really high on day two. And I think the thing with Higgins is that he's someone who needs
15:00kind of the right role catering to win.
15:02And I I think they got it right at times last year in Houston. To me, he just needs to be like a big Z receiver when
15:09they spread it out, get him off ball, get him some slot reps. I'd love to see him rotate in the slot with like Jaylen
15:16Null this year, but in in like a single receiver situation, he could be the lone guy. And I do think this team is going
15:24to go into heavier personnel packages and run some of those like big digs and and outbreakers because he can separate pretty well on those kind of in like
15:32maybe a Michael Pitman way player compwise. He had some different comps in our player comparison tool. But yeah, someone that I definitely think can win
15:40on those like more explosive shot play situations there. Plus, he's a pretty good blocker. Uh, as a Nico Collins backer, this would stink if he lost some
15:48of those reps and he's so good in these situations, too. But obviously, Collins is a guy you want to avoid injuries
15:54there. So, he's a darkhorse candidate to be that guy. And Trey Harris kind of the same thing where was pretty good on some
16:01of those breaking routes and he has an exceiver background from college. So, I think he could dabble in that work as
16:06well. All right, let's get into some specific team building or wide receiver room questions here. Like, this is these are specific wide receiver rooms or like
16:17we're building a hypothetical wide receiver room. These are these type of questions here. So, first one comes in from Goose Mayak.
16:24You are building an NFL offense from scratch. You can pick one wide receiver from tiers two and three of your dynasty
16:31ranking. one from tier four and one receiver from tier five or later. What is the best combination? What are the hallmarks of the system you're running?
16:41And uh if it helps or if it's fun, what arc type of quarterback is running it?
16:45All right, so this was really fun to to to look at here because a lot of different interesting ways to go about
16:51this. I I actually thought about this for probably an alarming amount of time.
16:56Uh, but ultimately we ended up going with in tiers 2/3.
17:03I mean, look, if you're going to give me the option between tier two or tier three, I'm going to go ahead and take
17:07tier two. Better players.
17:09Number one is going to be Malik Neighbors. And the reason we're taking Malik Neighbors, and and I'm thinking this is healthy Malik Neighbors, by the
17:16way, not like coming into this year banged up. We're hypothetically talking about injuryfree Malik Neighbors.
17:22Again, like I said earlier, this guy is knocking on the door to tier one. and he's ready to be one of those like true
17:26true true tier one receivers. And I'm talking about like Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. Like that's the type of guy he can be, okay? And and when you're
17:35talking about a player like that, you could play them every single snap at exceiver and he would be awesome, right?
17:42That type of guy. However, he's fully maximized when you move him around the formation.
17:47And I just think right now, like, you've got to treat your number one receiver like that. You've got to do it. They
17:53have to be someone that you are confident in doing it and you are actively treating them that way as a movearound option. You can't just line
18:02them up at x receiver every single snap.
18:04I think if you do that, you're telling us something about that player or you're telling us something about you as a play
18:10caller. Neither of which are good, by the way. So, I don't need to see him being one of these 80 80 outside on ball
18:15players. And I think Neighbors is truly dangerous when you get him into the slot. really dangerous when you move him around as the offball receiver. So, he's
18:24going to be the guy we build this whole thing around. I still to me like we can build the wide receiver room, you know,
18:30with collectivism and like we get all the guys like we like a wide receiver by committee sort of situation. We got a
18:36one, we got a one be blah blah. To me, I still think it functions best when you have a true number one and you revolve
18:42that room around that guy. That's why I went with neighbors cuz he is absolutely one of those players. So, let me go down
18:48to tier four for our next guy. Give me T. Higgins here. Who I have in tier four of my dynasty rankings. And by the way,
18:56you should subscribe to receptionperception.com and check out the dynasty rankings tool where you can compare my rankings relative to the market and look for some good buys that
19:07way. Okay. So, T. Higgins, a guy I have in tier four, uh just the perfect receiver who's one a baller, but also
19:14allows you to move your number one all around the formation. As we were just talking about, I mean, this literally is
19:20what happens in Cincinnati. Jamar Chase went from being a ex- receiver only player early in his career to someone who moves all around now, gets more
19:29opportunities in motion, gets more opportunities off ball in the slot, etc., etc., because you can play T.
19:35Higgins as the ex receiver and he can win you one-on-one matchups. He can win deep and he can win in the short game in
19:42the intermediate game in tight coverage.
19:44So give me T. Higgins to kind of not just give me a great number two receiver, which is what I think T.
19:49Higgins is. I think he's a two. Give me a great number two receiver who can kind of be close to the quality of a number
19:55one, but even better than that, he's like a force multiplier to my number one receiver. So give me that. And then tier
20:02five, I went with Parker Washington here because I think he's someone who is a slot receiver that's a vertical slot at
20:07this point. Again, you're looking at his route chart on the screen right now. The success rate on posts and corners on the
20:14dig routes, I I really like having that vertical slot receiver so that we can look for explosive plays with him.
20:24And that gives me the ability to work neighbors on some concepts that give him some layups. So they can kind of work
20:31off of each other in that way. Like if we're trying to get neighbors on a big outbreaking route, Parker Washington is
20:38a credible clearout guy in that way.
20:40That sounds like disrespectful of me to say about Parker Washington, but I don't mean that in that way. I mean, he's a
20:45credible threat on downfield routes, which allows me to get even more from my number one receiver. So again, to me, you're kind of thinking about uh and by
20:55the way, like this is going to inform our second question. Whenever I'm thinking about my number two receiver, I want them to really be someone that can
21:03maximize the number one. And it just kind of depends on that player skill set. So to me, I think if we're just
21:10talking about like I have an elite one, which is what neighbors can be and a rare guy that's in tier two of my
21:15dynasty rankings that I think could push into that like true first tier. So that's why I went with him. I'm gonna
21:21want someone like T. Higgins and Parker Washington to not just be really good players in their own right as an outside
21:27and a slot receiver, but someone who can help maximize my number one. All right, I I mentioned the next question here was
21:33going to kind of tie into this. Uh Shawn Donahghue asks, "I'm thinking about your conversation with Robert May about wide receiver room construction. What is Matt
21:40Harmon's ideal number two pass catcher in a 2026 offense?" So yeah, just did a um really good episode with Robert May
21:49on the Athletic Football Show talking about the ideal wide receiver room construction in the modern NFL and if we kind of need to get rid of the whole
21:55like build a wide receiver room like a basketball team idea kind of talked a little bit about in that last question
22:01skewing that idea in a way. Um, all that being said, I think if you're just giving me like I have no context of who
22:08the quarterback is, I have no context of the offensive ecosystem and like I'm just talking about who's my number two.
22:12I think I've kind of settled on like a Z receiver with some size who can be moved around. You know, Michael Pitman's like
22:18one of these guys, right? Um, I think this player can end up being your number one, but the reason I really like a
22:27player like this is because they can credibly play on ball. T. Higgins obviously is more of the exceiver type, but you know that Michael Pitman style
22:35receiver who's going to be a big-time Z receiver, give you some size, give you some easy throws over the middle of the
22:41field because of the size and the zone coverage beating ability as that Z receiver, but you can also play him on
22:46ball and move around your number one.
22:48Like to me, again, the number two receiver has to be someone who can help maximize your number one at this stage.
22:54So, I kind of like that arc type if you're just giving me no other context here on the whole situation. Okay,
22:59number seven. Next question comes in from Dankness. I've had this one on deck. There have been some reports signals that the Chiefs wide receivers
23:07are going to actually get real coaching for the first time this year between Venemy running a tight ship and Chad O'Shea actually being competent plus
23:14having a good track record. Obviously, it's possible worthy or someone else takes a jump. But like who has the most room to grow and the best path to
23:22production with actual time on task? Is it too late for Rice to get better verse man? Too late for Worthy to improve
23:28verse press? If those guys can't, does it bode well for Cyrus Allen or Taekquin Thornton? Well, yeah. I mean, you guys
23:34know I'm a huge Cyrus Allen uh is a great sleeper guy, you know? Okay. I I really like Cyrus Allen. One of my
23:41favorite deep sleepers right now. I think I actually believe he is the in my dynasty rankings player I'm most ahead of market on. Uh what could go wrong? A
23:48sub6 foot, sub 200 pound, you know, kind of slotbased player. Matt Harmon fell for it again. People are saying it's possible.
23:56But anyways, besides that, yeah, and it does I think it bodess well for Cyrus Allen getting on the field because he
24:01can actually beat man coverage. Taekquon Thornton flashed a little bit too. So, I do think it bodess well for those guys.
24:06My my kind of only push back to this question here is that I think we kind of overrate how much like coaches help players improve.
24:17I do think like the longer I'm doing this and obviously like good schemers can put players in positions to succeed and accentuate strengths and hide
24:28weaknesses, but I don't know how often like coaches take weaknesses and make them strengths, especially during training camp and the season. Like most
24:38of this stuff is they're they're installing the scheme. They're preparing certainly during the season they're preparing these guys for the week. Now,
24:46there's definitely some light like position coaches I do think can matter for sure. Um, the enemy running a tight ship, maybe that helps with just like
24:54discipline. I I I don't know. But I think it's mostly up to the players in the off season to put in the work and
25:01then bring that into camp and then hone and sharpen those skills. So, really, I think it's more up to the players and
25:07less up to the coaches on this one.
25:09That's why it's like a player makes a big jump. I'm gonna give credit to the player because it was probably probably and I'm talking about in
25:17isolation, not statistically. It was probably them in the offseason grinding and putting that work in, you know. So, they deserve I think the bulk of the
25:25credit on that one. So, we'll see about this Chiefs wide receiver room. I don't think it's too late for Rice to get
25:29better verse man. Uh I don't Worthy is tough just from a physical perspective, but I I think that yeah, it's not too
25:37It's not too late for Rice. I just worry that like he had such a chaotic off season. I'm not sure. Um I'm not sure if
25:43we're going to see that improvement this year. I I'll kind of believe it when I see it, I guess, is the way I'd go with
25:47it. All right, next one from Adam. How do you expect the Packers wide receiver alignment rotation to look assuming it's Matthew Golden, Jaden Reed, and
25:54Christian Watson? I do think it's going to be those top three guys. I don't think we'll see much rotation with like
25:59Savon Williams, Sky Moore of these guys.
26:01My guess is Reed takes the most snaps in the slot, Watson takes the most snap at X, and Golden takes the most snaps as the Z
26:11receiver. Like that's probably the the right roles. That being said, I think Reed can play outside in in as a Z receiver. I think he can actually play
26:21a little bit of X because he's got some decent, you know, work off press coverage there. So, I think I think he
26:27can do that. The real interesting thing is like the balance between X and Z when it comes to Christian Watson and Matthew
26:33Golden. I just wrote up reception perception profile. And he was someone that I think his skills are best suited to being not exclusively but a little
26:44bit more of an offball receiver than you expect, especially with how good he is on these big breaking routes and how
26:50often they use him on these big breaking routes. Like if we're look if we're running this route tree and he's the ex
26:56receiver, we're getting into like sacrificial exceiver territory.
27:00Watson, and shout out to Jacob Gibbs from Beyond the Box score for putting me onto this stat. Watson is actually more
27:06productive on a per route basis and much more heavily targeted on a per route basis when Romeo Dobs was on the field
27:11than when he was off the field last year. And I think like sometimes that's correlation isn't causation, it's coincidence, whatever. I actually think
27:18there's something instructive there because Watson again is best when he's moved around to exploit matchups and Dobs was the outside on ball the
27:27exceiver. So I actually think because Golden who had kind of like a middling rookie charting profile overall did actually have his best success rate
27:38against press coverage and and is like more of a vertical receiver. I actually would like to see him take some X
27:43receiver work to keep Watson, you know, his role a little more fluid.
27:48Ultimately, I think all three of these guys will even if they have kind of an XZ slot, I I'd like to see them all
27:54continue to move around and get reps from different positions and I think that will happen as Laflur usually has runs a pretty dynamic offense from
28:02preset motion, you know, receiver alignment, that whole deal. So, I have some pretty good faith that that will happen. Next one coming up here is Dante
28:1014. Now that we're getting close to reddraft fantasy football, I'm trying to figure out if there's any late round value from the Dolphins wide receiver
28:16group of Malik Washington, Jaylen Tolbert, and 22 Atwell. M Miami will most likely be in negative game script similar to the Cardinals last year and
28:23could have a surprise high target earnner in their group. How do you see those three playing in that offense?
28:27Here's the deal, man, and I don't mean to be like totally dismissive, but like from a reddraft fantasy football perspective, there is zero reason to
28:33take like a J probably any of these guys, but like Jaylen Tolbert, 22 Atwell, we know what those guys are in
28:39the NFL. I I don't think I I'm I'd be I mean Tolbra is a guy that's like been interesting at times, but I would be
28:47shocked if he turns into like a a true difference maker. You know, Malik Washington is interesting to me. Um I'm just not sure if I've seen enough
28:56evidence yet in the NFL that he can be like a full field outside receiver. I do think he is a good player and a useful
29:02player, but I'm just not 100% sure that he's like a true outside guy. To me, the the real answer here is the rookies, you
29:09know, whether it's Caleb Douglas, who you I thought had some intriguing marks in his profile or Chris Bell as like a
29:16late season stash, like Bell is the guy here from a talent perspective who clears all these players and even if he
29:24wasn't, you know, perfect from a charting perspective, he could beat man press coverage and he could win down the field. I don't see
29:33another receiver who does any of that consistently on this roster. And I just think about like the offensive probably running there with a lot of breaking
29:39routes, yards out for catch opportunities, play action, get the football out in space. I mean, Chris Bell fits really well into a situation like that. So, he
29:48is definitely the guy of all these that I think is the only one that I could see turning into something that's even close to an every
29:56fantasy starter. But, I would guess there's probably no every fantasy starter here. And this offense is pretty clunky. And again, Chris Bell, I don't
30:04even know what he's going to play this year. I don't even know probably going to get any practice time. And I hate
30:09when receivers don't have any practice time in the offseason. So, uh, he's the only one I think has that path to me.
30:15Maybe I'm being too dismissive here, Dante, and and you're right to be a little more intrigued. But, um, reddraft fantasy football, like best baseball,
30:22sure, you could take some of these guys, but like reddraft fantasy football, I I don't see anyone here that's uh screaming out to needs to be picked.
30:28Like that. That's just where I'm at right now. All right, let's get a couple of schematic shift questions in here.
30:34And these are kind of kind of going going to kind of go together. Uh Rohan M asks, "Do you think the 1213 personnel
30:42meta sticks around this year? If not, which situations and there like which situation shifts might enable receivers to get back to larger roles?"
30:51Personally, I think it might be more of a fad than a trend. I'm going to loop that in with the second question here
30:56from uh I know this is perfect shot spelled backwards after I screwed this up once before. Make a prediction on what is the next big schematic change
31:06for the NFL. So to kind of just answer these both as one, I don't know that I would call it a fad,
31:13the 12 13 personnel meta, but I do think there's a chance we're like overstating and overrating like the big picture impacts of all of it. And I say that as
31:21somebody that's talked about it a lot this offseason. Again, I feel like it comes up every single mailbag question, which may be my point that we're
31:27overstating it, even though I'm contributing to the discourse here. So, I I I don't think it's going to just I I
31:34think it objectively sticks around this year. Like, teams try to do it. They said that they were going to do it in
31:39the offseason with their actions, especially with what we saw in the NFL draft, but like how many plays all of these guys end up getting like
31:48these inline tight ends and whatever, like the multiple personnel packages from a tight end standpoint, I do think that's like TBD. And you know, Shawn
31:58McVey did it last year. I I kind of wonder if again what the next trend is going to be because usually it's better
32:04to find the next trend than to chase the the previous trend if that makes sense.
32:08And I I think from the 12 and 13 personnel perspective thing like teams might try it doesn't work then they try
32:14something else. And I also think that you'd be surprised at how willing a team would be to take a third round tight end
32:24and that guy to play like 20% of the snaps. I think they'd be fine with that if he's good in that role and helps them
32:31activate and be like more multiple, but that's not like the world that they're living in. Like I don't think teams are
32:36going to live out of 12 and I don't think any team is going to live out of 13 personnel this year. I just think
32:40they want their 13 personnel looks to be good. I don't think many teams are going to live out of out of 12 personnel this
32:47year. Some might be really high and like overindex on it, but nobody's going to like live in that. So, I don't know if
32:53that makes me agree with you that it's like more of a fad than a trend. I think it might be overtalked about in the
32:57media just because we're going to talk about why these plays are are good and efficient, why teams are, you know, uh
33:05why they're going to be trying to get big explosive plays out of these personal groupings and marry the run of the pass and the whole deal. And I think
33:10that is all really smart, but we might be overstating the impact from like a production standpoint on some of these plays. So my my thought on like the next
33:17thing that's coming, I think the next thing is that's coming and this will like kind of allow receivers to get back
33:23on track. a team I'm watching with this like is the Panthers. So, I'm going to use them as an example to kind of talk
33:28about what I think might be next, which is receivers with size that can mimic some of the tight end stuff and allow
33:36you to be really condensed and run. I mean, this is kind of again what the Rams were doing a few years ago with
33:41like 11 and a half personnel, quote unquote, where they'd get like a big power slot receiver and a big power Z
33:47receiver and those guys like Puka or Cooper Cup or whatever could block it up in the run game. Like that's and you
33:55could still be vertical and explosive out of that stuff because the receivers are going to be more vertical and explosive than the tight ends. So, I
34:02think that like but then also those guys are so good. It allows you to spread teams out as they've gotten bigger and
34:08heavier and tried to stop the run and all these things and attacking concepts at all three levels of the field with
34:14these receivers with some size who can actually separate. And I bring up the Panthers because they've definitely got a one and two in uh Tedo McMillan and
34:21Jaylen Coker that can do it. And Chris Brazzle I think could be that like sacrificial player who also can make some big explosive plays down the field
34:28if he hits. I think he's going to take some time to develop, but if he hits, he could be that guy. And that allows you
34:34to get, again, more spread out. It takes the right type of quarterback to do that. It takes a play caller that's
34:41willing to kind of let go and let God with some of these quarterbacks to do that when we've got like kind of a
34:46league full of, and they're really good at this, so I'm not saying this, you know, disparagingly, but real control freaks at play caller right now. But I
34:55kind of think that's the next trend, which is how do we replicate 12 and 13 personnel with some of these bigger body receivers, but can actually
35:04still separate and like win one-on-one matchups when we want to get high tempo and, you know, kind of force the issue
35:13and push the pace part of it. I think that's going to be really interesting and that's something I've got my eye on
35:19as the next trend. All right, let's get into a section of questions that are heatchecking reception perception favorite players. And I love this, by
35:27the way. Okay, I I I love this because, you know, it's fun. Okay, it's fun to kind of ask myself if I could be wrong
35:34about some of these players. So, this one it kind of fits into that bucket.
35:38Uh, this one's from Crimson in Crimson Shin.
35:44What do you think is Roma Dun's ceiling?
35:46I feel like everyone is hyped on Luther Burton being Aman Ross St. Brown. But who is Rome's high-end comp? I mean,
35:51here's the deal. Like, I think the St.
35:53Brown comparison for Luther Burton is not very good. Uh, cuz I don't think Luther Burton plays like Aman Ross St.
35:59Brown. And I think it's just not like there's like not similar players to me.
36:03Like Burton is more of some kind of combination, and I talked about this on the Athletic Football Show with Robert, who's a Bears fan, some kind of like
36:10combination of Z Flowers and Rasheed Rice, which sounds like a pretty cool player by the way. Uh, our player comparison tool has him as like a Robert
36:17Woods comp, which I think is more about like his role in the offense than it is like skill setwise. But he also draws
36:24like Steph Diggs, Chris Godwin. Like you could tell me he's a combination of like Chris Godwin and Steph Diggs. I think
36:29Luther Burton's much more like peak peak peak would be like Brandon Aayuk or maybe DJ Moore who obviously he's replacing this year. Spoiler alert, he's
36:37not going to play in Aman Ross St.
36:38Brown's role. He's Luther Burn's going to play in DJ Moore's role. Okay, he's gonna be playing the DJ Moore role in
36:43the offense that we just watched last year.
36:46Now, Luther Burton, that's him. Roma Dunay's high-end comp. I mean, the thing with the Dunay is like his comps are big
36:54boy ex receivers, right? I'm talking about like his high-end comp, like if he really hits. Um, and and he's somebody that would be able to play not just X
37:04receiver. Those are some of the best receivers in football. like guys who win against man in press coverage at rates like him but also don't just play X.
37:12Those are some of the top receivers in the NFL which is why I have you know been really in on Roman Dun as a player
37:19because I think he's shown the ability to do that. So I think that it really kind of depends from an archetype
37:25standpoint what you're looking for. I don't want to say like his high-end comp is like Dvonte Adams but you know that
37:31is the type of like route running ability he has. And I mean his player comps coming off of um this 2025 season.
37:38I mean look like these are guys that didn't quite hit that potential, right?
37:43Like Dantavian Wixs, obviously Calvin Ridley, you know, Garrett Wilson, but like he's bigger than these guys, right?
37:48He's bigger than some of these players.
37:50He's more athletic in my opinion than like a Calvin Ridley certainly. So yeah, I mean obviously Drake London, Julio Jones, he gets some moderate comps to
37:59those guys. Brandon Aayuk who we mentioned like big real deal ex receivers who could actually get open.
38:03Malik Neighbors as well. Um yeah those are the type of guys I think again the high-end [snorts] outcome if he really
38:10hits the player he could be that's he would fit more on that end where he is right now he's like the incomplete
38:17version of that the good but the incomplete version of that. We got to be more consistent the catch point. some zone cover stuff could be tightened up,
38:25but he's like right there ready to break through to kind of that tier of player.
38:29So, really excited about Rome and I do love his high-end comparisons. Uh like if he reaches his ceiling, that's a pretty pretty enticing player and one
38:37you build the whole offense out of. Uh as I mentioned, all right, next one comes in from we uh W Ethan Wethan, I
38:46don't know. Are you nervous/hesitant at all on your projections for Josh DS this year based on the sign and the signing
38:53and the trade of Michael Pitman? I really really want to believe this is the year, but the fact he couldn't get
38:58on the field last year over Pitman worries me. Obviously, he is a different type of receiver than Pitman. You kind of answered your question right there.
39:04But if we use Pitman's new average salary from the new contract he just signed, we can sort of estimate that the
39:10NFL market thinks he is about as talented valuable as Wandel Robinson, Romeo Dobs, or Jacobe Meyers. I understand there's some nuance to the
39:17contract situations and wide receiver position, but I'd be a bit concerned if Josh Downs couldn't beat out Wel Robinson, Romeo Dobs, Jacobe Myers.
39:25Basically, it seems like the NFL market is telling us that Robinson, Dobs, Meyers equals Pitman is greater than DS.
39:30Maybe my logic is stupid/ flawed. Or maybe the NFL market is flawed. Or maybe Robinson, Dos, Meyers are super underrated. I kind of think both here. I
39:39don't think your logic is stupid, but I do think using the contract values is a little bit flawed on this one,
39:44especially because Pitman is older than guys like Dobs or Robinson who are entering into their second contracts.
39:52Now, I do think you could compare him to Jacobe Meyers and Meyers basically saved the Jacksonville Jaguars season last year. Michael Pitman was one of the most
40:00productive receivers in the NFL to start last year. Like, not beating out Michael Pitman is a perfectly fine thing for Josh DS. Um, and also Josh Downs was
40:09hurt at the beginning of last year because then that's a problem. That's honestly the biggest problem for DS is that he can never sustain momentum
40:14because he gets hurt. And that's was the issue last year in addition to the fact that he just couldn't get on the field
40:20because they were going to these heavier formations. They were playing in a lot of positive game scripts where they're running the football out. Uh, so yeah,
40:26that's part of it too. But I think the thing for downs and like look what are my projections going to be? I'm going to
40:32try to be realistic and I'm going to try to not be nervous, but like hesitate a little bit when we're talking about like
40:37ranking Josh Downs for fantasy or something like that. But I think the reality is like he will get on the field
40:43this year. There's there's just no doubt about that. We can sit here and talk about two receiver sets and yada yada
40:48yada. But like Shane Styen is not an idiot. Okay? Shane Styen is not going to not play Josh DS in favor of like Nick
40:56Westbrook Aton Doulan or like the second tight end. It's not going to happen. it he would be a bozo to do that. He's not
41:03a bozo. He's actually a really great coach in my opinion. So, the fact that I I don't I'm not too bothered by the fact
41:08that he couldn't, you know, beat out Pitman. Like, he wasn't competing with Pitman. They weren't really playing the same position in the offense last year.
41:14The offense is going to look different this year. Uh overall, this is where again I I don't love the contract usage
41:21as like ranking players or anything because it doesn't take into account like context of like Meyers and Pitman I would say are better players in their
41:29peaks, but they're no longer probably in their peaks whereas like you're probably hoping to pay for potential at least a little growth with Robinson and Dos. And
41:37by the way, sometimes these teams just hand out bad contracts. So, I don't know that that's like the best way to to rank
41:42players, but I'm Yeah, to answer the beginning of the question. Nervous? No.
41:47Hesitant? Like, yeah, I don't want to go all in because it's a little bit of an unknown, but still, no, I feel pretty
41:52good about Josh Downs having a a breakout season this year. And like, by the way, they're going to need him. Alec
41:57Pierce banged up, so they're going to need him. Okay, question from Alex on this one. Talent-wise, Nico Collins seems to be undeniably one of the top
42:06receivers in the NFL. From a fantasy manager's perspective though, he's been a bit frustrating slash unreliable. What makes you think this year will be any
42:12different? Well, great great question. Will this year be any different? Well, maybe it won't be. He might still be a little
42:23bit frustrating, but I think the potential is there for him to really get into a different spot. Um, so I think
42:30the couple things to consider here is that I think he could play maybe some he could move be moved around the formation
42:38more. I think Straoud I do think Strad could be better this year and like he was a top 10 quarterback by EPA per
42:44play. Um, so there's that. But the reality is like yeah, Nico on a base case scenario is probably a guy that is a back half
42:54wide receiver one and is a little frustrating. Guess what? every receiver is a little frustrating and inconsistent. Um, I don't know about
43:01unreliable.
43:02I mean, yeah, he's going to have some down games. Everybody's going to have some down games, but as long as you can
43:09live with that, yeah, that's a guy that's a back half wide receiver one, which is where I'm going to rank him.
43:14But I really like taking him this year because I think there are plenty of paths for him to be even better this
43:20year from a fantasy standpoint. What if he plays fewer snaps at X? What if CJ Strad is a little bit steadier this
43:29year? What if the offense is better under Nick Kaylee? What if the offensive line is better? What if he gets fewer
43:35snaps at X because Jaden Higgins is a little bit better and ready to take on more work in year two? Higgins, I do
43:41think should be a primary Z, but I think take like 20% of his snaps at X, which allow Nico to maybe move around more.
43:48Okay, a lot of paths forward I think for Nico to kind of stabilize that production.
43:54And if he doesn't, well, we already kind of know what he is. He's a spike week wide receiver one who finishes the year
44:00as a wide receiver one. But yes, some weeks you're like, yeah, there's up and down stuff there. But again, that's every wide receiver in fantasy outside
44:07of like two guys. Everybody's going to have some volatility. That's something that I think we just got to accept about this position. And I kind of wish we
44:14would as a fantasy industry because just is what it is for all these guys. All right, one more section here. RP dork
44:21questions. All right, and I say this lovingly, by the way, because I love the RP dorks. These are like some process
44:26questions, bigger picture questions.
44:28These ones are fun. Okay, this one comes in from Daryl G. What are the reasons to consider a player slot only?
44:33Historically, it was just size, but I feel like we're evolving that to mean ability to be pressed and win contested catches with an emphasis on the run
44:39game. I would almost expect smaller man beaters to move outside and bigbodied bullies to slide inside. But while there are outliers, the status quo remains.
44:49Yeah, I mean it's kind of a case- byase basis on this one because every team is going to feel differently about it. I
44:56generally think when I when I personally think of a slot only player, I think of a guy like Hunter Renfro who um was a
45:03small player and also couldn't really beat man coverage. Like I know you're going to show me the three sick routes he ran in like 2019 or whatever, but
45:13like on a consistent basis, not a guy that was threatening vertically. Not a guy that was winning against man coverage.
45:20Not a guy that uh really activates your route concepts from the perimeter. Teams aren't threatened of Hunter Renfro on the perimeter. So, I think that's kind
45:29of what I would say. Like that is a slot only player. But I do agree with your point that like I'm actually kind of
45:36curious about the smaller man coverage receivers on the perimeter like a Josh Downs. In a hypothetical world, last year Josh DS is an outside receiver.
45:44Michael Pitman is a big slot. I think that still activates you in the run game and gives you some explosive plays on
45:49the boundary. So, I do think we're kind of changing a little bit here, but in general, you're right, the status quo
45:56remains. I think we will see some differences this year with how certain teams are able to activate the slot only types, the downses and the
46:05reads from two receiver sets. And that's a trend I'm going to watch this year for sure. Okay, Savix asks, "What is the
46:12process that you use to select which eight games are included in the RP sample? Always been curious what the process is to decide which games are
46:20included or not, as I would think that selection bias could alter the reception perception, i.e. selecting the top eight producing games or the worst eight
46:28producing games. Would love some insight into the process." Yeah, I mean, listen, you're 100% right that only selecting the best eight games or the worst eight
46:36games would be stupid. It's why I don't do that. Uh, I look to get a mix of unproductive and productive games. I
46:44look to get a mix of games that are home, games versus away or games away.
46:50Um, so yeah, like if a guy has a 150 two touchdown game, I'm charting that one in the sample. I want to see what happened
46:57in that one. If a guy has, you know, two catches for 18 yards, that one's going to be in the sample. I want to know what
47:03happened in that game. And that obviously implies that it's a player who has that type of wide variance in their production. It has even the potential to
47:12have big games like that, which not everybody does. Usually there's like just a natural kind of average and all of that. And it's a little more
47:19overstated on on that side of it. But yeah, I want to get a mix of productive, unproductive games. Honestly, it doesn't move the sample one way or
47:28another for the most part. Like a one catch game or something. Sometimes, yeah, the guy got smoked and it does bring the numbers down a little bit.
47:35Sometimes it's just like [ __ ] happens, man. That and and they ended up with one catch and it wasn't that bad of a game
47:41and it doesn't change the sample one way or another. Honestly, that's like the point of reception perception is is isolating the player from outcomes. So,
47:48yeah, I think that actually to me it had I haven't noticed a lot of evidence that it changes the sample one way or
47:54another. Uh some of these like outlier production games. So again, mix of outlier, mix of production, uh mix of home and away, you know, if there is
48:03like a major injury variable, uh like I want to get some games on either on either side of it, right? Um you know,
48:10like a doomsday this year, I think it was like a fiveame split before the foot and then three games after the foot. You
48:16know, you want to get some of that uh in there. I I try to avoid like if you can when you know a guy is playing like a
48:23full half of the season with injury. I'd like to not get a ton of injury tainted gamble g injured injury tainted games in
48:30the sample, but it's just something to remember there. Uh, so yeah, that's and also just um I I'd prefer when possible
48:38not to like double up on this Bears receiver played the Packers two times, but sometimes that's unavoidable because of just like if they miss time with
48:46injuries and that's all they played, you want to get the eight games in. That's important. But yeah, the biggest thing to me is mixing up the production. You
48:53know that because I agree with you like it would be kind of silly to just look at the guys eight best game from a
48:58production standpoint. So, you got to get the mix of that in there and at all points of the season when possible when
49:05they've played a full season. Like, let's get a chunk of games at the beginning, a chunk of games in the middle, and a chunk of games at the end.
49:11So, um it's definitely not random. It's a pretty intentional process that goes into looking at all of those games. And, uh last thing, too, is just, you know,
49:19defensive quality as well. Uh when possible, getting like, oh yeah, they played the Chargers secondary, which I think is just so good against zone
49:27coverage. have such a high opinion of what Jesse Mitchell was doing last year.
49:30We're going to look at that Chargers game. Oh, they played the Broncos.
49:33Really good man cover. Like, let's get a look at that one, you know? Okay, they also played the Dallas Cowboys. [snorts]
49:37Let's not get overindex on that one because they were, you know, an atrocious zone coverage defense. So, you want to get a mix of that stuff to give
49:43a fair view of the player, what they do in easy matchups, hard matchups, and the whole deal. And sometimes, like I said,
49:49guy goes against the Broncos defense, maybe didn't have the production, but he was really good running his routes against that man coverage defense.
49:55That's why it's so important to mix up the process on that one. All right, last one of this section is Ethan
50:00Connley/Osscarcer Bobo asks, "What is something you wish we as RP subscribers would focus more on? Not necessarily a sight feature, but an aspect of wide
50:10receiver play that we underemphasize." I also want to group this question with this one because I it kind of goes into
50:17my answer. Max's 2385 asks what are a lot there are a lot of success metrics on the site success
50:28against a given coverage i.e zone press, you know, success on a given route. What is the hierarchy of the most critical
50:34valuable of these metrics specifically as it correlates to fantasy points? And are there any you view as interrelated success rate versus zone plus success
50:41rate on inbreaker strongest correlation to fantasy points? Yeah, here's here's kind of the thing I think like is this sort of my answer of like what I
50:49want you guys to focus on and not focus on. Um, I'm not trying to like game the system here to correlate to fantasy points,
50:57okay? Like the whole point of reception perception is to f isolate players from surrounding variables. Well, yeah, if we're
51:08isolating them from surrounding variables, like the we're it's not going to correlate clearly to production. Like that's the whole point of the the entire
51:15methodology. Um, so I don't want now obviously from I have done the the studies on this and like it's not a
51:23there's no correlation at all. there is, you know, some correlation to fantasy points. Uh, I'm not trying to come up with the most predictive to next year's
51:31fantasy. Honestly, I think the fantasy industry as a whole overindexes on that.
51:35We know that the most um things like the thing that correlates to next year's fantasy points is last year's fantasy points per game, I believe. Anyways,
51:45like we know that, we have that already, but it's not a 100% correlation.
51:49Otherwise, what are we doing all these podcasts for? What are we doing all this stuff? We're trying to spot outliers.
51:54We're trying to spot areas where that improvement can be made. Like that's the biggest thing to me from like the the
52:00correlating to fantasy points thing. And this also like gets into another part of my answer here, and I'm not picking on
52:06you, Max, because this is a really good question.
52:09But when I'm looking at these metrics, the other thing I would say too is that unlike other like an efficiency stat like a first downs per out run,
52:19which by the way I think is a fantastic and really good stat where like you're comparing receiver to receiver, receiver to receiver, receiver, receiver receiver
52:27with reception perception, these individual metrics, and this is something I I wish subscribers would focus more on, like focus on the
52:35individual player. I I just a point on this, right? Like the profile for Nico Collins and the profile for Aman Ross
52:43St. Brown are very very different because they play very different positions. So I don't want to sit here and say well St. Brown is better in this
52:51metric and Nico is better in this metric so therefore one is better than the other. Like every player's individual profile should be taken within the
52:57context of just that player. So yes, we have sortable data on the site. What I don't want you to do is like go to
53:03success rate versus man, sort by most or like sort by best to worst and then yeah, plug that into fantasy rankings.
53:09Obviously, that's that's not what I'm trying to do here. We're trying to isolate the player from surrounding variables. We're trying to understand
53:14that like the player best what they're doing in isolation so that yeah, obviously if if variables change for a player, you know, they can have that
53:24breakout season. If the film is really good and the production is not there, why is that? And can that change? That's
53:32why, you know, listen, would it would my life be a lot easier if I didn't write uh all these profiles? Totally. But
53:40that's why I write all them because the context matters so much. And I never want to just like lay out a bunch of
53:46stats and like have you react to that. I want to actually explain what's going on here. And I think that's the thing I
53:52hope people focus the most on is like the why and the process and what happens there as opposed to like trying to
53:58predict outcomes necessarily. Of course, we're doing we're doing fantasy content on the site. I have dynasty rankings on the site, [sighs and gasps] but it's a
54:06piece of the puzzle. Your favorite creator and and their stats. It's a piece of the puzzle. Okay? Hopefully, you like me and you like my stuff.
54:14That's why you're watching this video.
54:14That's why you're here this deep into the video watching the RP Dort questions. Okay?
54:20So, if you like that, I'm a piece of the puzzle. Other people are a piece of the puzzle. Put it all together. Try to get
54:27this stuff right. So, um, I don't know if I totally answered that, like what I want you guys to focus on. I would love,
54:32by the way, what site features do you want to see from a wide receiver standpoint? Let me know in the comments.
54:36Hit me up in Discord. Would love to know. Um, but yeah, underemphasize is just like I don't know. I think you guys
54:43are pretty sharp, honestly. I think you you're like the best audience in the NFL or the fantasy space, honestly. So, I
54:49think you guys are doing great.
54:52Focus on the individual players, man.
54:53That's what I'm doing here. Okay. non- football questions here before we get it before we get out of here. All right,
54:58this one comes in from Sleeves. Who's your favorite character in the Red Rising series? Uh, must be a Football 301 listener because I believe that's
55:05the only place I've talked about what books I'm reading right now. Yeah, I'm still uh working through the Red Rising series. Uh, they are here's my kind of
55:13reading habits for the people out there.
55:14This is definitely what everyone cares about is um in the morning I listen to audiobooks while I'm on my walk, post
55:23breakfast walk. I try to walk a mile, excuse me, I try to walk an hour every day. Usually that's about three miles uh
55:30every morning when it's raining outside.
55:32Then I do I do watch TV on the treadmill. So yeah, that's where I got my that's really the only time I watch
55:38TV series is when I'm walking in the morning watching the Diplomat, by the way, on Netflix right now. when I do
55:44that or when I'm flying. Although my last plane ride, I wrote all these profiles that are on the site as of
55:49Monday morning. So, wasn't watching a lot of u the diplomat there. I'm behind.
55:54I need some more rain, I guess. But anyways, I listen to audiobooks there and then I read uh usually like memoirs
56:01or like books at night actually in bed before I go to sleep. No more screen time before bed for me. But uh to the
56:09question because I am listening to Red Rising right now. Uh, just to put some context here, I am halfway through book
56:15two. So, um, you don't know what's going to happen to a lot of these characters.
56:22Please do not spoil it for me. Uh, hard to not like Sevro right now. Okay.
56:26Really good character. I think there's going to based on where I'm at in book two and some things happening. I think there's going to be a
56:33lot of depth and intrigue with the character going forward. And I also thought he's uh you know kind of one of
56:38the most compelling and like likable not likable type characters of the uh of the book so far. So I would say Seo has been
56:47certainly right now based on again what just happened.
56:50One of the more interesting characters, one of the more um you know unpredictable characters I would say. So Seo is my guy right now. All right. Uh
56:57last one here for the video and this section. Earball asks, "It's 2027 and football along with all other team sports are ruled illegal. What does Matt
57:06Harmon do for a career?"
57:09I don't know why I wanted to put this one in the video because honestly, this gives me a lot of dread. Um, I really
57:15don't know. I'll tell you what, like you didn't even need to say all the other team sports part. I don't want I I'm
57:21maybe I would get into baseball or basketball if there was no more football, but right now I don't watch other sports.
57:28I I'm I'm all football all the time. So, you know, that wasn't an option for me to become a, you know, MLB podcaster or
57:37something like that. Um, that would be kind of shocking. What do I do for a career?
57:44Yeah, I guess I would love, honestly, if I was to be if I was to be fully honest with with you, I would hope to get into
57:50like some other type of content uh creation, some other type of, you know, like podcasting. I I would talk about something else on a podcast. I maybe I'd
57:58get back to like my sociology roots, which is what I I studied in school. I wanted to get the PhD in that uh before
58:05the football thing football football thing worked out. So, thank God. Uh but yeah, maybe I'd get back into that and you know, maybe get it maybe podcast
58:12about that. That would probably go nowhere and uh my career and life would sink. So, you know, yeah, I would give
58:18that a shot. And if that didn't work out, honestly, I have no idea. I was working in social work before this. I
58:24could get back into that for a career.
58:27But honestly, I wanted to end on this question. Now I remember this. I wanted to end on this question just for uh you
58:33know, again, thank you guys for allowing me to do this. [laughter] I probably I've rambled for God knows how long on
58:39this mailbag video and uh the fact that I get to do this and talk about football with you guys and you subscribe to the
58:45channel, which I hope you do. You subscribe to the website receptionperception.com, which I hope you do, and you're a member of the RP
58:51Discord. Links on all that below. allows me to uh talk about football and wide receiver nerd stuff, you know, here, which is honestly like the greatest gift
59:01of my life. Uh I I'm feeling very refreshed and jacked up about this football season and just more like grateful than ever. So the fact that
59:10earball I don't really have to consider your question outside of a hypothetical and like you know yeah my my my sociology podcast you know my cultural
59:18podcast that I would host in this really dark fantasy world fantasy ironic this dark fictional world I'm glad I don't have not to consider
59:29that because you guys give me a platform to do this instead. So appreciate you guys here a ton of great questions for
59:35the July mailbag. Remember, if you join the RP Discord, you can drop them in pretty much anytime. I consider them for
59:41any new upcoming mailbag. In the meantime, again, thank you all for joining. Thank you for watching.
59:47Subscribe to the channel. Subscribe to receptionception.com. We have a ton of profiles coming out in August, all throughout the month leading up to week
59:54one. Until then, I'll catch you guys in the next video.

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