0:00Hello and welcome to the Establish The Run Rest Of Season Top-150 Rankings Show.
0:05My name is Adam Levitan. Each and every Wednesday we are here to discuss our rest of season Top-150 Rankings and how
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0:26For this, I am joined by two members of our projections team, Mark Dankenbring and Jack Miller, as well as the season-long
0:34bro you know and love, John Daigle. Mark, how's it going today?
0:38It's all right, Adam. A little good, a little bad in Week 2.
0:42Obviously a lot of injuries. My two highest owned players this year are Jaden Daniels and Devontae Adams, so obviously bad on
0:49the Daniels front, but good on the Devontae front, so trying to lean into the positive here.
0:55Good. Jack, how's it going today? It's going okay.
0:58I was going to say the same thing as Mark.
1:01On our call last week, Daigle was getting on me for checking my best fall results after Week 1, but I think
1:09after the Jaden Daniels injury, I think that he's right and I'm just not going to check the rest of the year
1:16and maybe delete all the ups entirely. But besides that, it's going okay.
1:20Daigle, how are you? With the weather changing, I'm currently playing my flu game right now on this show, so let's get to it.
1:29Yes, you do not sound too well, brother. Appreciate you being here.
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2:25All right. Rest of season top 150 rankings. I want to start with some of these quarterback injuries and team level changes that we have seen, Mark.
2:34Let's start with the Giants here. Jackson Dart, unfortunately, is going to miss the rest of the season.
2:40And please, please don't tweet at me. Adam, he was never going to stay healthy.
2:45He plays like a wild man. He runs. He doesn't.
2:49Buddy, he was in the pocket. He got hit.
2:52Same thing happened to Joe Burrow. Same thing happened to Tom Brady.
2:56Same thing happened to a ton of pocket passers who messed up their knees.
3:00So yes, it sucks. Jameson Winston will be the quarterback for the foreseeable future here.
3:05Mark, we went to 43 overall on Neighbors, 63 on Scadaboo, 112 on likely, obviously all pretty substantial docs off of where they were with Dart.
3:14Mark, how do you feel about Giants now rest of season?
3:18I have some mixed feelings here. I think ultimately, you know, we've seen Jameis come in a lot of times as the
3:25backup quarterback and really lead fantasy charged offenses. So like in that sense, I'm a little bit, I wouldn't say excited, but
3:33like, I don't think it's like the worst backup quarterback situation we've ever seen.
3:37Certainly, you know, the Monday night game against the Rams and not look good for Jameis.
3:43He was throwing ducks out there a couple, a couple of horrible passes and, you know, just easy interceptions for the Rams.
3:50I think ultimately I'm going to chalk that up to, you know, not getting, not getting the reps or warmup time and
3:57just came into the game a little cold. So I think moving forward, I'm, I'm a little bit, you know, optimistic that Jameis is going to play better.
4:07Just looking back to last year, he had a, he had a game against Detroit where he threw for 366 yards and two touchdowns.
4:15And, you know, his weapons were, were Wandale Robinson and Theo Johnson at the time.
4:20So he still does have Malik neighbors and Isaiah likely this year on a team level.
4:25I'm a little bit concerned that, you know, the giants are just really going to lean into the running game here though
4:33with Harbaugh and, you know, obviously Skadaboo and, and the, and the four running back in Patrick Ricard, you know, combo they have in the backfield here.
4:42So again, I, you know, I, I see some positives in it for fantasy that like, I don't think it's going to
4:49be as bad as it looked on Monday night.
4:52You have Jameis for the rest of the season here.
4:55They also do have a pretty, pretty favorable schedule upcoming in the next few games.
5:00They get the Titans, Cardinals, commanders, and saints in the next four weeks.
5:05So I think like in good matchups, neighbors and likely are going to be playable.
5:10The backfield was a spot I was pretty much staying away from already, you know, Sal Skadaboo was my move last week.
5:17So I'm still kind of in that camp, but you know, obviously sucks for dart and the giants overall as a team,
5:25but I think like for fantasy, there's probably still going to be some decent games here for the giants.
5:31Yeah. I think I'm more optimistic than market on Jameis Winston.
5:35I understand he came in and played really bad.
5:38The reason Jameis Winston is good in fantasy, because he does not care about throwing interceptions.
5:43He does not care about making mistakes. He will give these guys a chance deep down the field to make plays.
5:50He'll also throw pick sixes, which frankly is good for Jameis and good for wide receivers.
5:55The only reason that I'm not going like full blast on this take is because I'm not sure Matt Nagy is going
6:03to allow Jameis to play that way. He's going to try to do something ball control conservative.
6:09We have our backup quarterback that concerns me in a big, big way.
6:13We got a bunch of questions about Malik neighbors here.
6:16Uh, Dago, let me find, uh, one of them here.
6:20If I can, um, as I tech word, this Dago, the neighbors rank is really tough here.
6:25There's multiple things going on. The Jameis thing is going on and I'm still skeptical that he feels right on that knee.
6:33From what I understand the Saturday of week one neighbors was still telling people he wasn't going to play.
6:39He ends up playing Sunday of week one and played a pretty good game, even though it wasn't a full-time role.
6:46Then in week two, he pops his shoulder out and he doesn't look like he's that confident on his leg here either.
6:53So it's a tough rank on neighbors. We're at 43 overall right now between Ted or McMillan and DJ Moore among wide receivers.
7:01Dago, where you at on neighbors? And that's what the conversation is about is asking yourself how far would you really bring
7:09them down given that there's no wide receiver competition on this team, just Darnell Mooney and Malachi field.
7:15So neighbors, when he's at full strength, will continue earning targets confidently.
7:19Not to mention then when you do bring them down to that range, Ted or McMillan, who is getting out targeted by
7:26Jalen Coker currently, DJ Moore, who has been good when he's been healthy.
7:30We're still asking ourselves then what is the ceiling?
7:33And I believe the ceiling case is still higher than those individuals, given what I mentioned about no competition.
7:40So I still like neighbors. I think if someone's willing to sell neighbors all because of this, you know, change under center,
7:47I'd be at happily buy him and just understand the volatility that comes with it.
7:52But that could be positive as well. Yeah, it's tough.
7:56I don't know. I think everybody in your league is going to value neighbors differently.
8:01I like where we have him here in like the early forties.
8:05You know, there's room for him to absolutely smash with if Jameis is good and the knee is right.
8:11There's obviously a lot of downside. Also, this team could turn out to be really bad.
8:16And then why push it on the knee if you don't feel great about it?
8:21So yeah, I feel good about where we have him here in the forties for now on neighbors.
8:27I'm more comfortable with neighbors ranking than discussing Isaiah likely and Jameis Winston, for example.
8:32I know in super flex, you might have to go there because there are so many sicko leagues where James Winston is
8:40the only available quarterback you're forced to pick up.
8:43But even the market is suggesting, you know, this total that opened 45 and a half against the Titans this week has already plummeted below 40.
8:52Even the market is suggesting this offense is still going to struggle mightily with Winston, at least in the short term.
8:59All right. Jack, let's go to Atlanta where, you know, we talked about last week, Michael Penix just so likely to make so many starts this season.
9:08It was very obvious from training camp that Tua wasn't going to be it.
9:12And Tua almost lost the, I actually think they would have started Penix week one if he was cleared, like without even participating in the competition.
9:21So that's how bad Tua was in the preseason.
9:24Then you get to the season Tua can't even play due to the back injury.
9:29I don't know what you can really do here because anyone that has Drake London or Kyle Pitts, this is what they've been waiting for, right?
9:38So like, it's almost to me, if you wanted to sell Drake London or Kyle Pitts, now would be the time because
9:45now is when there's the most optimism around him.
9:48But Jack, how do you think about these guys with Penix likely to start rest of season?
9:54Yeah, I don't think I'd sell London. I think the optimism is deserved.
9:58London has a 31% target per hour run last year with Michael Penix at quarterback.
10:03He actually has a 31% target per hour run in each of the last two seasons overall.
10:09Those are, that's an elite, elite number. I think that we can mostly just throw out the target shares from the first
10:16two weeks, Cooper Rush and Jack Strand were just so incapable of pushing the ball downfield.
10:22So I'm pretty optimistic on London moving forward. I think that there's more reason to be worried on Pitts because of how
10:29the Falcons have been using their tight ends. Pitts only played 63% of snaps in week one.
10:35The number was way down last week, but everyone's number was way down because they got blown out by so much.
10:42But the Falcons are using Charlie Werner and Austin Hooper a good amount of the time in 12th personnel.
10:48I don't think that they love what Pitts offers as a blocker and they're kind of using Werner and Hooper more as a result.
10:56So I certainly think that having Penix at quarterback is a positive for Pitts.
11:01And there was some positive coach speak on Pitts as well this week.
11:05Tommy, he said, we got to get it going.
11:08That's my job. Called Pitts an integral part of what they want to do offensively.
11:13But at the same time, he has, what does he have?
11:17Four targets in two games and one catch. So there's really nowhere to go but up for Pitts.
11:23And I think that he's probably not going to ascend as high as people want to based on where they drafted him
11:30in the offseason just because he's not playing all that many snaps.
11:35He's not a full-time tight end. So I'm a little worried on Pitts.
11:39Given the deployment on London, I think it's full steam ahead with Penix at QB.
11:44Yeah. You know, Penix is willing to be aggressive, throw the ball further down the field.
11:49Obviously, that helps. Drake London versus the Kyle Pitts stuff.
11:53I thought if Tua was starting a lot, it was going to be a really good run out for Pitts.
11:59Just like, let's see how fast Tua can get the ball out of his hand to Pitts in the flat and let him run.
12:07They did some of that in the preseason. With Penix, it's certainly not as good.
12:12I'll say this on Falcon stuff. Packers this week, Thursday night game, then Saints.
12:17But more importantly to me, like, I know it's early to already talk about the fantasy playoffs, but Commanders, Bucks, and Saints
12:24in the fantasy playoffs for the Falcons. So if you wanted to make a buy on these guys, if anyone is selling,
12:32that would be a reason to also. Dagle, let's go to Commanders without Jaden Daniels here.
12:37Again, this is the same left elbow injury that cost Jaden Daniels so much time last year.
12:43I have not really heard an update. He was supposed to be meeting with specialists Tuesday and Wednesday.
12:49It's so frail, man. Like, every time he puts his left arm down, the elbow pops out, you know?
12:55Scary. I don't know he's going to play again this season.
12:59I think he will. I don't know for sure, though, that he will play again this season.
13:05We have gone real low on Commander stuff in the rest of the season.
13:09Top 150. McClaren down to 81 overall. Diggs down to 106 overall.
13:13Chigakonkwo not listed here at all. Daigle, any optimism for you on Commander stuff?
13:18It's going to be Marcus Mariota until Jaden can get back, if he does get back.
13:23The short term is not pretty, as Seattle now arrives in Washington against Marcus Mariota, not to mention this past week against the Cowboys.
13:32We saw a rotation at their second wide receiver with Dami Brown, Stephon Diggs, and Antonio Williams basically running the same amount of routes behind Terry McLaurin.
13:41The most recent report from Adam Schefter is that the timeline is similar so far to last year until we get official word.
13:48Last year, Jaden Daniels missed four to five weeks.
13:51The Commander's going by in week seven, which would logically then put him back on the field at home in week eight.
13:59So the way I at least wrote about it for the waiver wire is that rather than running to Marcus Mariota, which
14:06you might have to do in the Superflex leagues, but the Vikings with Kyler Murray have the easiest schedule of opposing passing
14:13defenses for the next month, you could pick up Michael Pennix and the Falcons, to your point also from earlier, the eighth easiest schedule of opposing passing defenses.
14:23So rather than focus on Marcus Mariota, I'd rather go with those options.
14:27And as for the receivers, Terry McLaurin's out there, but it does seem like we're going to lose, unlike Malik Nabors, a
14:35lot of the ceiling potential heal here while Mariota's under center.
14:38Yeah, I'm not sure what you can really do.
14:41I mean, no one's gonna be buying McLaurin or Diggs right now, given the current situation.
14:47And yeah, I hear you. Like, maybe it's the same timeline as last year.
14:51He came back after four or five weeks last year and then aggravated it immediately again.
14:57You know? So, I mean, what is the timeline then if he came back last year and aggravated it immediately?
15:03So yeah, definitely a mess here in Washington. I don't think there's a lot to be done here with this spot.
15:10Mark, let's go to the Panthers. One of the biggest stories of this 2026 season has been a change in philosophy for the Panthers.
15:19Now, some people are going to say, you know, we just posted a clip that Silva talked about on team by team.
15:26Well, this was two of the best matchups for passing offenses that Bryce will have all year.
15:32Chicago and Atlanta. Maybe in tougher passing matchups, they don't lean quite as pass heavy.
15:37And again, right now, a neutral situation pace, a neutral situation pass rate of expectation, they are first.
15:43I mean, it's just a massive change from last year where they were around the bottom of the league marked by this change.
15:50And by the way, it's a new coordinator, you know?
15:54And that just like gives people more evidence to be like, this is going to be sticky all year.
16:00Brad Idzik is the new, I'm sorry, not new coordinator, new play caller is Brad Idzik.
16:05So Mark, how sustainable do you think it is on Panthers stuff?
16:09Well, I buy it a little bit just because of the condensing of the target share in this offense.
16:16You know, Jalen Coker and Teddero McMillan right now have 36 of Bryce Young's 66 targets on the season.
16:22That's, you know, 55%. Anytime two players are getting 50 plus percent of the targets in an offense, I'm almost always going
16:30to be interested in fantasy, you know, despite their pass rate of expectation.
16:34So I think like just having, knowing that in the first couple of weeks, hey, they are extremely aggressive in the passing
16:41game is, is I think, you know, a solid, solid outcome here.
16:45So, you know, we've bumped them up quite a bit.
16:49You also have the condensing of touches in the backfield too, with, with Jonathan Brooks going on IR.
16:55Chuba Hubbard looks to be, you know, the stone cold locked in running back one there.
17:00He's competing with AJ Dillon and then, you know, they brought in Austin Eckler for a workout who, who, you know, most recently tore his Achilles.
17:09So I think, man, it's, it's really going to be condensed on, on those three guys.
17:14If they continue to, you know, get the route share and the target share that they've gotten in the first two weeks,
17:22I, I, you know, I think there's room for like the Panthers pass rate to come down and these guys to still produce in fantasy.
17:30So do, am I like buying that, you know, Bryce Young is, is kind of fully back to the number one overall pick expectations.
17:38Not necessarily just, just given what we've seen over the last three years, it's going to take more than two weeks against
17:45the bears and the Falcons to really sell me on that.
17:49But I do think this is, you know, if you have T-Mac Hubbard, Coker, you're, you're feeling pretty good putting those guys
17:56in your fantasy starting lineups at this point. Yeah.
17:59I have a team with Caleb Williams as my only quarterback and I had some choices off the wire here this week,
18:07you know, in, in these 12 team one quarterback leagues, there's always going to be choices.
18:12Uh, Shuck was out there. Some other guys were out there.
18:16I decided to go with Bryce Young here against the Browns, at least for now.
18:21Um, so I do buy that. There's a philosophy change here.
18:25Like they used to try to hide him under Canalis so hard.
18:29They are not trying to hide him. And at least that is just makes a huge, huge difference.
18:35Daigle, I guess a waiver wire question here for you from Clark.
18:39He says, should we be dropping Justin Herbert for Bryce Young?
18:42We'll get into the Chargers stuff more a little later, but just quick off the cuff, Daigle Herbert for Bryce Young.
18:49No, I am not joining everyone on the overreaction train on the Chargers just yet.
18:54I want to see them play Buffalo. And then if they fail against that defense, which the Texans and Lions chopped up
19:02for over five yards of play per piece, then I'll join everyone.
19:06But I'm not there on the Chargers yet. Okay.
19:09Let's go to, let's go to the Packers without, uh, Jaden Reed here, Jack.
19:14Um, so I want to talk about this because I do think that the Jaden Reed injury is a big deal.
19:21His backup is Sky Moore. I think it'll be Sky Moore.
19:24Um, the three wide receiver set stuff that we talked about so much in the preseason made sense because they had three really good wide receivers.
19:33Now that they don't, maybe they go back and do a bunch of two tight end stuff with Tucker Kraft and whatever
19:40else they can find, Johnny Smith, whatever else they can find off the scrap heap here.
19:46That would be certainly a boost to Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.
19:50We know about when there's two wide receivers on the field, how much better it is for those wide receivers that are on the field.
19:58So Jack thoughts on Packers rest of the way here without Jaden Reed.
20:03Yeah, I think it's a big boost for Watson and Golden, regardless of whether they go to more two tight end stuff.
20:10I mean, I think it's a big boost if they go to Mark Redman as their second tight end, like they did
20:17last week, they have, they need so much help on the offensive line that they turn to Mark Redman as their tight
20:25end two over Johnny Smith because he's a better blocker.
20:28But I mean, regardless of whether it's Johnny Smith or Sky Moore out there, Watson and Golden, they're going to really condense targets.
20:36Tucker Kraft got up to 98% of snaps last week too.
20:39He ran around on 78% of dropbacks. I know there was that blurb that they thought about using him on the offensive
20:47line, but they really need him as a pass catcher too.
20:51I know they need blocking help, but they also need pass catching help without Reed.
20:56So I think that this offense, it's going to condense really, really hard around Watson, Golden and Tucker Kraft.
21:02Watson and Golden combined for 17 of Jordan Love's 29 pass attempts last week.
21:07I think that those two, it's pretty much wheels up.
21:10Yeah. I mean, I'm worried about Packers defense too.
21:13I mean, they are, where are we here? Yeah.
21:16I mean, they did not do a lot against the Jets.
21:20Carson Wentz in week one. You can see some shootout potential here for these guys.
21:25The other point that I wanted to make on Packers stuff, if Josh Jacobs is available in your league, he should not be.
21:32Like there is some chance that within the next four to six weeks, Josh Jacobs could play.
21:38And, you know, to be clear on that, I mean, they suspend him and then the commissioner's exempt games count towards that suspension.
21:46It's like a six game suspension. He's already served two if they go that route.
21:51I don't know they're going to go that route, but we moved him up to 84 overall here, which I think was a good move.
21:59A good move. All right. The short term is just fine against Atlanta's defense on Thursday for Jordan Love, which allowed both
22:07Aaron Rodgers and Bryce Young to have success against them.
22:10But I do think it's worth monitoring giving that without Zach Bakubawale last year, the Packers, when he was off the field,
22:17failed to dead last and pressure rate allowed on Sunday when Jordan Love was under pressure.
22:23He averaged three yards per attempt. Again, not a big deal on Thursday.
22:27And the wide receiver rotation has gotten much tighter without Jaden Reed.
22:31But I am getting a little bit concerned now for an offensive line that fell to 32nd overall in Brandon Thorne's rankings.
22:38Yeah, big time problems. And I agree. And that could be an argument against Dirty Bag's question here.
22:45Dirty Bag said, is Christian Watson a top 12 wide receiver rest of season?
22:49We have him as wide receiver 16. I'm uncomfortable going higher than that.
22:54Injury history, offensive line, woes, you know, weather late in the season.
22:58I think wide receiver 16 is good on Christian Watson.
23:01And I love Christian Watson, man. I hope he keeps balling out, but I don't want to go too crazy.
23:08Okay, let's go to some backfield battles here, Mark.
23:11Let's start with New England. This was a really interesting one from week two because, as expected, Trevion was back from his injury.
23:18As expected, Ramondre started the game. He fumbles again early.
23:22Trevion immediately breaks off a 39-yard touchdown run and ends up getting more work than Ramondre.
23:27I've, you know, we talked about this a bunch.
23:30They need Trevion. The question is, can he not blow it?
23:34Can he not make mistakes in pass pro or vision or whatever they didn't like him for that much or didn't trust
23:41him for for a lot of last year? We went to Trevion Henderson 67 overall, Ramondre 68 overall.
23:47So back-to-back here in the rankings. Mark, how do you think about Patriots backfield rest of season?
23:53I think when both are healthy and active, they're kind of like middling RB2 flex plays.
23:58You know, I'm not super excited necessarily to start either each week.
24:02I think we're giving the slight edge to Trevion in raw ranking just because the upside, if Ramondre were to go down,
24:10is probably higher than vice versa there for Trevion.
24:13You know, I think the fumbling stuff with Ramondre, like we saw it last year with the same coaching staff, and they
24:20were not reluctant to go back to him the next week.
24:24So I think like the end game fumble, you know, issues are probably a bigger problem than carrying over to the following week.
24:32So I think we expect this to go back to closer to like a 50-50 split.
24:37You know, the snaps last week, Trevion 60%, Ramondre Steven 36%.
24:41There's a lot of different splits that you can look at from Trevion and Ramondre last year that kind of favors either guy.
24:48But ultimately, you know, they, Ramondre has led in target share and route share in all of those samples, even when Trevion was playing way more.
24:57So I think Ramondre pretty much has the pass down role on lock and is going to be the favorite to get more targets here.
25:05I think Trevion could probably break more ground in terms of like the rushing department.
25:10I wouldn't be shocked at all if they just decided to give Trevion the ball more on the ground.
25:17As you mentioned, you know, they're pretty desperate for explosive plays here in the offense.
25:22So, you know, I really don't think a whole lot has changed here ultimately, despite Ramondre fumbling again.
25:28You know, I think again, 50-50-ish on carries and Ramondre probably the favorite in the pass game and at the goal line.
25:35And so, you know, again, just kind of middling plays for now and both are healthy.
25:41Yeah. I think it'll be pretty even in terms of touches, you know, at the end.
25:46It's kind of like a Blake Corum-Kyron thing though, where I think they will trust Ramondre more pass downs, as Mark said, around the goal line.
25:55And so, yeah, in that instance, you would like Ramondre more.
25:58However, the explosive plays from Trevion are just, I mean, he is a big play machine.
26:04And I also think contingent upside. Like if Trevion gets hurt, Ramondre would be great.
26:09He wouldn't be like, I'd be dying to have him.
26:12If Ramondre got hurt, I'd be like, oh my God, how much Trevion can I possibly stomach?
26:18You know, so I think the contingent upside benefits Trevion a little bit more, but certainly really close here.
26:24And we do have them back to back in the ranks.
26:28They go, let's go to this Saints mess. The Saints laundry bros found my tweet.
26:33I was even like hesitant because I knew, I knew as soon as I tweeted about this, the laundry bros would be all over me.
26:41There are hundreds of Saints fans calling me the most inhumane names you've ever seen because I suggested that it was a
26:49little confusing that they went out and signed Travis Etienne to this big deal.
26:53And then they played him split carries with Kendrick Miller.
26:57Then they healthy scratch Kendrick Miller. Then the corpse of Alvin Kamara comes in and gets 15 opportunities in week two versus 11 opportunities for Travis Etienne.
27:06This is one of the weirder things that I can remember.
27:09Like if they thought Kendrick Miller was good or something, I could see it.
27:14If they thought that Alvin Kamara still had a lot in the tank, I could see it.
27:20I don't think they think either of those things.
27:23I think they just like oddly decided to hate Travis Etienne for the first two weeks.
27:28So I have some more thoughts on this, Daigle, but we went to 69 overall here on Travis Etienne.
27:35What do you think about Saints backfield rest of season?
27:38Chiefs guaranteed Kenneth Walker 28.7 million and are building the entire offense around him.
27:43Saints guaranteed Travis Etienne 28 million and are instead ignoring him as he's been 25th and 32nd among all running backs and
27:50his share of backfield touches through these first two games.
27:53The Kamara one was especially shocking given that Kamara had been dealing with that knee injury and then suddenly comes in to out-touch Etienne altogether.
28:02I did get a lot of drop questions this past week.
28:05I think we're more in the territory right now of Etienne where you are stashing him, but you certainly can't start him until something changes.
28:14A lot like Travion Henderson last year where you knew you couldn't ever drop him because something could change just at the drop of a dime.
28:23I think that's where we're at with Etienne where I want to stash him right now because if it changes, we suddenly
28:30have an RB2 that we have to start. But for right now, yes, I'm getting far away from him and my lineup.
28:37I mean, this is, you know, I had this idea.
28:41I've talked about it so many times to hire reporters to only ask fantasy questions.
28:46If I was a reporter for the Saints, I would be relentless.
28:50I'd be asking everybody, all my sources, front office, coaches, players, what is going on because I am so convinced that there
28:57is something more than we know here going on.
29:00Agree. Injury, off field, some type of blackmail situation.
29:03It just does not make any sense whatsoever. And so when things don't make sense like this, part of me is just like, it's time to buy, right?
29:13Because to the point that Fire Up Frank made here, he says he thinks Travis Etienne is a great buy low if
29:20he's battling Kamara for snaps because Kamara's awful. Agreed.
29:23You know, agreed. Like, Alvin Kamara's not going to last the whole season.
29:27Clearly they don't like Kendrick Miller that much. They just healthy scratched him.
29:32The best talent is Travis Etienne. Even if you don't think Travis Etienne is that good, he's still the best talent.
29:39So I kind of like Travis Etienne as a buy low right now, barring new information.
29:44I just wish, and hopefully Nick Underhill or someone who's listening to this, somebody find out what's going on.
29:50I guarantee there's more than meets the eye going on here.
29:54And, you know, Daigle said maybe you can't start him.
29:57I don't know, Daigle. Home against the Raiders this week.
30:01Home against the Falcons next week. Like, I might be willing to start Travis Etienne there depending on what my options are.
30:08It's not like he's been a zero. He was in there for that big comeback against the Lions and caught a bunch of balls.
30:16You know what I mean? I do know what you mean.
30:20Okay. As someone who started him, though, I also know what you mean.
30:24Good. Yeah. I mean, he's definitely not a drop.
30:27I actually think he's kind of a buy, and I might be willing to start him against the Raiders this week, depending on what my other options are.
30:37But, yeah, we need more information, you know? And, yeah, maybe it's on me.
30:41I need to start. If anybody has Travis Etienne information, DM me.
30:45I want to hear it. And we need information that does not entail Kellen Moore saying, we're just going to use a bunch of guys.
30:54Like, that's not good enough. No. I want exact details on why you're using a bunch of these guys over the one
31:01you went out and bid over the market for.
31:04Well, my understanding also was that they didn't really want Kamara back.
31:08I mean, this was like a really tenuous situation to even bring Kamara back.
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32:32Jack, let's go to the Jaguars running back situation.
32:35Tootin versus Chris Rodriguez. The way it played out in that Broncos game, it looked like Tootin was really starting to pull ahead.
32:43I believe Chris Rodriguez only played 13 snaps in that game.
32:47And it's not like it was a blowout where they got behind big.
32:51Chris Rodriguez, 13 snaps. Tootin, way more. But they did play four running backs in this game, including Abdullah and LaQuinn Allen.
32:59We went to 48 overall here on Tootin. So, you know, the Slappies have taken a bath on a few guys here to start the season.
33:07The Tootin stuff for the Slappies, I feel like, has started off reasonably well.
33:12Jack, what do you think about Jaguars backfield rest of season?
33:16Yeah, they're still using four guys, but I think generally it's been a really strong start for Tootin.
33:22I think the Tootin bet right now is that he's played so well and been so much better than Chris Rodriguez that
33:29you're betting on the gap widening as the season goes on.
33:33And I think that's a pretty good bet. But Tootin is averaging 4.46 yards after contact per attempt.
33:39Tootin is below that. Tootin was at five yards per carry to Rodriguez as 2.2.
33:44And most importantly, Tootin got a carry from the one-yard line.
33:48They motioned into Wildcat and Tootin scampered around the right end for a touchdown.
33:52So Tootin is not drawing completely dead. For goal-line carries, he's been significantly better than Chris Rodriguez so far.
33:59For whatever reason, Amir Abdul is still playing non-zero snaps.
34:02I think they like LaQuint Allen enough as a pass protector that he's going to be in that role all season.
34:09But Travis Etienne still had a 9.7% target share with LaQuint Allen playing all the pass downs last year.
34:15So it's not like Tootin is drawing dead for any receiving work.
34:19He just probably won't play on third down specifically, which is fine.
34:23He can still get enough targets on early downs and in the two-minute drill to be competent in that area.
34:30And he's just been way better than Chris Rodriguez as a runner so far.
34:35So I think that the gap will probably widen at some point as long as they're involving four backs.
34:41It might still be kind of annoying on a weekly basis.
34:45But I think the bet right now on Tootin is that he's in a very, very good offense.
34:51And over the second half of the season, we could see him distance himself as the clear RB1 here.
34:57Yeah. I mean, if someone's valuing Tootin in like the 30s or something, I'd be willing to sell him there.
35:04They have a very difficult schedule coming up. Patriots, Bengals, Eagles, Texans in their next four.
35:09But I just don't think anyone's valuing him there in the 30s.
35:13Like where we have him at 48, I feel like might open some people's eyes too just because he hasn't popped in the box score yet.
35:22So I'm pretty encouraged by the start for Tootin here.
35:25I thought he belonged somewhere closer to 60, I guess, before the season.
35:30Like somewhere between 55 and 60. And so now to have him here at 48, I agree.
35:36You know, it's been a positive start to the season for Tootin separating from Chris Rodriguez.
35:41Last one here in terms of role changes. Mark, is there any hope for the people on Mazda?
35:47I'm sorry, Moped. Moped Marv. Doesn't even deserve a Mazda.
35:50He is down to 138 overall. We got a question here.
35:54I saw someone. It was like Marv. I don't think we have it here.
35:59But somebody asked a question, like a crazy question, like a total dust ball.
36:03Should I drop a Marv to pick up him?
36:06So the market has finally given up. It took three years, but the market has finally given up on Mazda.
36:13Marv, Mark, we're still in the top 150 here at 138 on him.
36:17Any hope for you on Mazda rest of season?
36:20Oh, man. Not really. I think I've given up.
36:23You know, not that I was necessarily like defending Marvin Harrison in the offseason, but we did that, you know, kind of
36:31controversial player show with Silva and Daigle before the year.
36:34And I talked about how Marvin Harrison like hasn't been as bad as public perception.
36:39And then, you know, he comes out and has one catch for 33 yards through two games this season.
36:46And, man, you know, I kind of chalk it up to being a mental thing right now with Marv.
36:52Maybe that's just, you know, the easy thing to say from the outside and seeing kind of his lack of effort on routes and blocking and everything.
37:01I also come back to there's an offseason comment where, you know, someone asked, like, if he's going to take any positives
37:08out of his situation from the first couple years.
37:11And he's like, oh, no, man, you know, I was taught my whole life not to take positives out of out of anything.
37:19And that's just like tough to hear. You know, I think from the outside, like I said at the top of the
37:27show, you know, I try to lean optimistic when possible.
37:30So it seems it seems really rough here. You know, the offense going to funnel through Trey McBride.
37:36Michael Wilson, you know, certainly seems like the better wide receiver two option at this point.
37:41And then you have Kendrick Bourne stealing some targets as well as Jeremiah Love out of the backfield.
37:47So I don't really see, you know, with this with kind of new head coach that like the reasoning of why they'd
37:55be, you know, clinging to like, hey, we got to get Marvin Harrison Jr.
37:59involved here. So I think kind of like the path out is maybe he ends up getting traded into a new spot.
38:07But like in fantasy, you know, in season long redraft fantasy, like I don't really want to hang my hat on that happening this season.
38:15So I honestly think it's kind of fine to drop him if you wanted to, despite how rough that feels at this point.
38:23Yeah, I think Daigle did have Marvin Harrison as a drop candidate in the waiver wire article this week.
38:29You know, the suggestion people keep making. It was previously only Trey McBride.
38:34Who earned more targets and Harrison only had to.
38:37His dad was one of the best wide receivers in the history.
38:41He's literally behind both Jeremiah Love and Tyler out here.
38:44Certainly trade him to the Colts. And target share when looking at the Cardinals.
38:49See if he can get his head on straight there.
38:52Nothing good has happened so far. That certainly wouldn't help his expectations.
38:56LaFleur also had a pretty rough quote on Marvin Harrison.
38:59He was asked basically, why don't they try to get him some easy catches?
39:04And he basically said that, well, we have Trey McBride, who's one of the best underneath receivers in the world.
39:11There's only we got to run the ball. There's only 60 plays per game.
39:15And we also like getting Kendrick Bourne the ball underneath, too.
39:19He said, if the situation calls for where we need to get him some touches, we'll do it.
39:25But so far, that hasn't been the case. So it sounds like they're just completely done with them.
39:31I mean, Kendrick Bourne has had a way better NFL career than Marvin Harrison.
39:36I mean, way better. It's not even a question, you know?
39:40And like, yeah, Marvin Harrison has had one good half.
39:43Top 24 wide receiver that you should be starting the past couple of games.
39:48But rather than a tight end naturally filling in for Dallas Goddard, the only tight ends on the roster they use are Johnny Mutt and EJ Jenkins.
39:57Thus, that tells me we could at least see some role changes, a route trade change for both Makai Lemon and Dontavian
40:04Wicks and just funnel the opportunity that way instead.
40:07So I'm still actually, if Lemon was dropped somewhere, because to this point he's been used as Philadelphia or Khalil Shakir, I'd definitely pick him up.
40:16Because we could see a change coming in the way he runs routes.
40:20I think is pretty impactful. They played Makai Lemon a ton in that game.
40:25If you don't have Goddard, you're way more likely to go three wide receiver sets here.
40:30So, Daigle, what do you think about Makai Lemon and Wicks here in the wake of Goddard's injury?
40:36Agreed. Yeah, I think Makai Lemon is an interesting pickup for sure, just to see how it goes.
40:42I wonder if we could see a real philosophy change for the Eagles here.
40:47They have not been able to run the football consistently in terms of success rate for two years now.
40:53That includes with Saquon, and now Saquon is banged up here.
40:57Also, not sure on his status. I mean, I know defenses dare Jalen Hurts to beat them with his arm.
41:04We saw it against the Titans. He can do it when he's asked to.
41:09So, I think it's a really interesting time for all three of these guys, Savanta, Lemon, and Wicks, to see how it plays out with the Goddard injury.
41:18Mark, anything else to add here on Eagles? Yeah, you mentioned them potentially leaning more into 11 personnel, and that's what they've done so far.
41:26They're currently second in the NFL right now in 11 personnel usage at 77%.
41:31I like buying all of Devontae, Lemon, and Wicks.
41:34Obviously, Devontae and Wicks have had the better box score output, so I think Lemon is clearly the cheapest there.
41:41I think they're all going to be good and valuable pieces throughout the rest of the regular season.
41:47I will note, like, I'm not 100% fully all-in on buying Eagles pass game because looking ahead to the fantasy playoffs, they do play Seattle.
41:55It's been horrible, but also the easiest explanation. Again, it's only been two weeks.
42:00The Raiders did sink a lot of money right now, but I feel pretty confident saying Seattle and Houston are going to
42:07have two of the best defenses at that point in time.
42:11So, that's like holding back my excitement. But I think the Eagles pass game is going to crush, especially about Goddard taking probably 20% target share.
42:20Yeah, I'm not freaking out. I'm just trying out loud to their practice squad, so I think the wide receivers are really going to get fed targets here.
42:29No one has failed against Buffalo. Indeed. Always going to be like a worry on efficiency with Jalen Hurts and stuff like that.
42:37You're going to have some bad games, but I do think it's an interesting spot.
42:42All right. Dagle, you mentioned you weren't panicking on the Chargers.
42:45You would be the only one on planet Earth that is not panicking on the Chargers.
42:51So, I want to talk about this in the context of Aranda Gadsden also, but I do want you to get this
42:58take off your chest because, yeah, people are scraping for positive things to say about the Chargers right now.
43:05If you'd like to sell, you can do it next week.
43:08They've been seventh in E-paper play, one of the most efficient offenses in the entire league whenever Ladd McConkie was on the field.
43:16McConkie played through that flat jacket injury this past week and was in and out.
43:21So, I'm not giving up hope just yet. Okay.
43:24So, the problem is after this Bills game, then they play at Seattle, like literally the worst possible matchup, then home versus
43:31Denver, then at the Chiefs, brutal spot, then at the Rams, then versus the Texans, then at the Ravens.
43:38So, if you want to say that they underperformed the first two games due to opponent defense, after this Bills game, it's not going to get much better.
43:47You know what I mean? So, if you wanted to...
43:50I guess what you're saying, Dagle, if you wanted to sell, do it after the Bills game, you think?
43:57Okay. Jack, I want to talk about the tight ends here because I think, you know, from a specific standpoint, the guy
44:04who made the biggest move in the rest of the season, top 150, is Arande Gadsden.
44:10David Njoku was on IR. Charlie Kolar was supposed to go on IR.
44:14As we were recording this show, it was announced that Charlie Kolar actually is not.
44:19They changed their mind. So, they expect Charlie Kolar back sometime in the next four weeks.
44:24We'll likely have to make an update here for that news.
44:28But as of now, we have Gadsden at 122 overall.
44:31This is a player who seems to be phased out, but now they have to play him.
44:37And I honestly, like, you guys know how I feel about Quentin Johnston.
44:41I just think he sucks. And I actually think that Gadsden might be their second best pass catcher.
44:47So, we got him in here at 122 overall.
44:51Jack, what do you think about the Gadsden spot rest of season?
44:55Yeah, the Kolar update definitely changes things. The thing on Gadsden, we know he's a really good receiver.
45:01664 yards as a rookie tight end on 9.6 yards per target.
45:05He had a ridiculous stretch down the year. But near the end of the year, he kind of did get phased out
45:12a little bit again and obviously was buried to start this season.
45:16I think that he's a good add in a speculative sort of way.
45:20I think that because he's such a talented pass catcher, you might as well pick him up and see what the upside looks like.
45:28I'm still a little bit skeptical that given how incompetent he is as a blocker, that Mike McDaniel is going to turn to him in a full-time role.
45:38They signed Hayden Routy to the active roster. It sounds like Kolar's not going to miss as much time as expected.
45:45So, I think that the floor here is still pretty low.
45:49But we're talking about a guy that we have ranked 122.
45:52I think that when you get that low in the rankings, we're basically just hunting for upside shots like we are when
46:00we're drafting our teams in the offseason. So, I really like picking up Gadsden and seeing how much he plays and seeing
46:07what the role looks like in this first week without Kolar and Njoku.
46:11I think that the upside is like a legitimate top eight rest of season fantasy tight end if McDaniel suddenly thrusts him into a near full-time role.
46:20I also think that there's some chance that he's not good enough as a blocker and McDaniel keeps him pigeonholed in a
46:28part-time role and uses Routy and Kolar and these other guys.
46:31Oh, I think he's definitely going to be in a part-time role.
46:35But these roles that these pass-catching specialists played can be good enough.
46:39Don Kincaid, 55% or 60% of the snaps. Stuff like that I think is what Gadsden can do.
46:46And the other part of this is like, I mean, they're coming after Mike McDaniel's head with a pitchfork.
46:52He's going to have to make some changes. Start thinking about what changes you can make.
46:57Maybe it's more, even if these other tight ends were healthy, maybe it's more Gadsden.
47:02He's selling high right now. He's at his lowest point, Hampton is.
47:06You can't even make up selling points for him.
47:09I just think he'll make the tough schedule up to him.
47:13The Chargers are likely to be trailing himself for a majority of those games.
47:18They'll just lean on the passing game a bit more and that should help get Gadsden on the field.
47:24So I do think we'll find out pretty quickly whether or not he's going to get integrated or not.
47:30While we're on the Chargers, we got some questions on them.
47:34They said, is Hampton a sell high? The Chargers look like they're in disarray, having murderers row scheduling, barely using the passing
47:42game as a time to abandon ship. I'm not sure that it would be a sell high per se.
47:48I feel like the market doesn't want anything to do with any Charger whatsoever.
47:53Right now, I kind of agree with Daigle. I would probably go with Hampton against the Bills here, hope he plays well, and then try to dump him.
48:02But it's going to be tough because everybody knows about the Chargers schedule here coming up.
48:07It's been a great run out for Bucky Irving so far.
48:11Kenneth Gainwell is a non-factor even in his strength the receiving game.
48:15Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we were a little below market before the season on Hampton in the ETR ranks, but Silva was
48:22way below market on Hampton and one of the things he said was just like, I don't know that Amaran Hampton is
48:30actually good enough to be a top 15 fantasy pick.
48:33So, you know, and I agree. I'm not, is he as good as these superstar running backs?
48:39He might not be, you know, and the fumble, I don't know if he's going to be punished for that, but that
48:46was such a brutal fumble at the end of that Chargers game.
48:50Sounds like we should maybe move him lower then.
48:53I mean, would you take Hampton or Bucky Irving the rest of the way right now?
48:59You've got Hampton, RB 13, and Bucky, RB 15 right now.
49:02Yeah. Yeah. I think these guys are in a similar tier, but I'd probably have Hampton more towards the back of the tier.
49:10Yeah. Hampton, Love, Bucky, Swift, Brees. Yeah. I think that's a tier for sure.
49:15You know, you were betting on the offense being really, really good, and that's obviously looks like a really bad bet right
49:22now, so if the offense is going to be bad, like, I'd rather have Brees Hall if both offenses are going to be bad, you know.
49:31I'm still not convinced they're going to be bad all year though, man.
49:35You guys know how I feel about McDaniel. You should see my mentions.
49:40They're like, I told you Mike McDaniel was a fake Sharp.
49:43I'm like, where is this coming from? So much Mike McDaniel hate.
49:47Everyone wants to put this whole thing on him.
49:50I put it on Madison Beer. It's just too hot.
49:54Okay. Let's go to, oh, well, I better take this one to Jack.
49:58Jack's move to make last week was buy Colston Loveland.
50:01If you wanted to buy Colston Loveland last week, Jack, I would assume that you really want to buy him now because people are talking about dropping.
50:10I mean, I've seen people talk about outright dropping Colston Loveland, even though he continues to run an insane amount of routes for this team.
50:19Jack, where you at on Loveland and Bears heading to week three now?
50:23Yeah, I haven't seen that. I mean, if there's that much panic, I think is a clear buy.
50:29I'm definitely more worried about Loveland than I was last week.
50:33We saw the routes drop off. He still played a ton this week, but they used him a lot as a blocker,
50:40including on that last play of the game where he gave up the sack to Dallas Turner when he was blocking them
50:48one-on-one, but he ran 29 routes on 42 dropbacks.
50:51I think that it's a tough matchup for tight end routes, needing protection against Minnesota, but at the same time, if we're
50:58talking about a guy who we're hoping would ascend into the top tier of tight ends, I mean, there's not a chance
51:05in the world that it's the last play of the game for the Raiders or Cardinals and Brock Bowers and Trey McBride
51:13are staying in a block or seeing decreased routes because the other team is blitzing so much.
51:19So I think it's fair to dock Loveland both for the game specific usage, just that being within the range of outcomes
51:26from a route standpoint, as well as, I mean, Caleb Williams is going to miss some time.
51:32That's such a big hit to the offense as a whole.
51:35Once Caleb is back, I still feel okay about Loveland rest of season.
51:40I'm a little worried about Burden too. He ran fewer routes than Kalief Raymond.
51:44It doesn't seem like Ben Johnson really trusts him in a full-time role.
51:49So honestly, once Caleb is back, I'm a little more worried about Burden than Loveland despite the gap in actual production.
51:56But I'm definitely worried about Loveland. I think that the week two usage, despite him playing so many snaps, the fact that
52:03low routes is within his range of outcomes and the fact that he's not earning targets at all and Ben Johnson doesn't
52:10seem to be scheming up targets for him, I think that it's not good.
52:15So I'm a little more worried than I was a week ago for sure.
52:20I still think Loveland is a buy just because when you play the Vikings, weird things happen and coaches do weird things
52:27schematically on offense when you play the Vikings and it was raining and it was windy and Caleb goes down late.
52:34I don't know that you're going to get it to pay off here because they're going to be starting some dust ball at quarterback until Caleb gets back.
52:44But I still think he's kind of a buy.
52:47People are going to have eyebrows raised that we have Loveland ahead of especially Don Kincaid, given the start that he's off of.
52:54Tyler Warren we can talk about here in a second.
52:58Kincaid versus Loveland is interesting to me. And like I'm a buyer on Loveland but man, the way that they're calling plays
53:05in Buffalo is like so exciting right now. I might prefer Kincaid over Loveland but it's certainly close between those guys and
53:13I don't think the market sees it that way.
53:16And so yeah, if you can buy on Loveland, I think that's an interesting idea still.
53:21All right, last one here before we get to questions, Mark, is the Colts situation.
53:26So we get Alec Pierce going down here. You know, I've given the Colts enough crap about that.
53:32I'm not going to keep going back to that again.
53:35But it doesn't change those things without Alec Pierce.
53:38Their offense, they're going to have Darius Slayton out there to try to clear stuff out.
53:44He does not clear stuff out at the same way.
53:47that Darius Slayton does. So Mark, what do you think about Tyler Warren?
53:51Any other Colts thoughts here without Alec Pierce? Yeah, so you can tell, I mean, we only have two Colts pass catchers
53:59in the top 150 right now, Tyler Warren and Josh Downs.
54:02Definitely think the targets are very likely to condense on those two.
54:07You mentioned Darius Slayton with signs. They also, you know, trotted out Laquan Treadrell pretty much in the Alec Pierce role.
54:14And he's been a journeyman, you know, wide receiver, mostly a special teamer to this point in his career.
54:20So taking Alec Pierce off the field and putting those two guys on as field stretchers, I think is just great for
54:27the target earning potential of Downs and Warren specifically.
54:30We've also seen Jonathan Taylor, you know, continue his decent target share playing with Daniel Jones.
54:36He's at like 13% so far this year. That's awesome if Jonathan Taylor is going to be used in the pass game
54:43as much as he gets the ball on the ground as well.
54:47So I think it's, you know, a little bit of a hit to this, to the effectiveness of this Colts offense, just
54:54losing a talented player like Alec Pierce. But again, the targets condensing around Warren and Downs is notable.
55:01I do want to, I do want to mention something on Tyler Warren so far though through two games, he has a negative 0.3 yard eight dots.
55:10They've pretty much just been using him around the line of scrimmage on little dump offs.
55:15He has 39 yards on, on nine catches this season, which is, which is less than what, what Keenan Allen has on seven receptions this season.
55:24So I think it's been a pretty brutal role for Tyler Warren.
55:28He's scored two touchdowns so far. So I'm really hoping that, you know, like that, that role changes and he gets some more targets down the field.
55:37I'm not necessarily convinced it will play out that way, but like when you're looking at Loveland versus Warren and Kincaid and
55:44stuff, you know, I would certainly take Loveland over Warren if Caleb Williams was healthy.
55:49I think the next couple weeks without Caleb, you know, will be a little bit rough, but I don't know.
55:56So some pros and cons there on both sides right now.
56:00Yeah, I'm worried about Tyler Warren also and the way he finished last season too was kind of scary to me, you
56:07know, averaging over 10 yards per attempt. It's actually been a schematic change under Joe Brady so far this year as he's launching the ball downfield.
56:16Play action over the middle. That's where they're using Josh Downs.
56:19And Keenan Allen, not Tyler Warren. So, yeah, it's a little scary for me on Tyler Warren.
56:25All right. Let's get to some listener questions here.
56:28Let's go. Oh, I can take this one from Patrick.
56:31He says, Don Kincaid, is this a legit good run out or just another Bill's pass catcher on a street?
56:38Reminds me of like the Alave stuff. On a per route basis, we knew Don Kincaid was one of the best tight ends in the league for fantasy.
56:47in receiving scores and in-zone targets and red zone targets.
56:51So, I'm not too worried about Adams when Puka comes back.
56:55The target share I would imagine is just going to be funneled between those two.
57:00I think personally, Terrence Ferguson got the biggest uptick in opportunity without Puka on the field.
57:05So, I wouldn't be actively trying to sell Adams.
57:08However, if someone's willing to overpay you with a first round player because of what he showed us in primetime, sure, I'd at least temperature check on him.
57:17All right, Daigle. Kenny Powders 100 says, is Devante Adams a sell high?
57:22If you were to sell Devante Adams, who would you trade him for?
57:26Obviously, without Puka Nakua, Devante is an absolute turbo, turbo, turbo smash.
57:30I don't like player-for-player trades, but for example, I'd take Devante at 40 overall as we have it.
57:36Devante Adams rest of season, but again, player-for-player is kind of a wash.
57:40Yeah, I like where we have Devante Adams here at 40.
57:44Obviously, you know, there's some concerns with his age.
57:47Puka is such an outrageous target earner that Devante had to rely on touchdowns at some times last year, but McVay is
57:55going to figure out how to use his best players and Devante is clearly still one of his best players.
58:01Yeah. All right. Last listener question here. Jack, if you want to read me this, I will go to the redraft trade calculator.
58:09And again, for anyone with DraftKit Pro, you do have access, whoops, you do have access to our trade calculator here.
58:16So if I can manage the tech lord DraftKit redraft trade calculator here, you can read me this question.
58:22Yeah, so it is O'Marion Hampton and T Higgins for JSN in a full PPR 14 team league.
58:28He says he's strong at running back with Walker and Lloyd slash Gainwell, which I don't know if I'd consider that strong
58:36at running back per se, even in a 14 team league.
58:39But we have JSN here, and that's the way that I would lean as well.
58:45He's just, I think he's clearly the wide receiver one at this point, just continued the dominant target earning from last year.
58:52Hampton and Higgins are fine assets, but JSN is just in the true top echelon of fantasy assets at this point.
58:59Yeah, I mean, when I have an opportunity in a league where I think I'm better than my enemies and I'm trying
59:06harder, I like getting the one and the two for one.
59:10You know, I like getting the superstar and I will figure it out after that waiver wire trade starts it.
59:17I'm going to win in some of these other little edges that getting one of the best players in the whole league
59:24in JSN and getting out from under a question mark in Amar and Hampton.
59:29Yes, I would rather have the JSN side here as well.
59:32All right, it's time for the moment everyone has been waiting for.
59:36They didn't watch the show. They fast forwarded all the way to the end here to get our one move to make before week three.
59:45Jack, I'll give you the floor first here for your move to make.
59:49Yeah, I'm going to do by Jameson Williams. I think I had the exact same move to make last year around this time as well.
59:58I think I actually did by JMO twice and I just don't think that that much changes with him on a week to week basis.
60:06He has a 16.9% target share so far this year.
60:09That's higher than it was last year in games where Sam Laporte and Amin Ross St.
60:15Brown played at least 50% of snaps. He was at 15.6% last year.
60:19He's had a rough start from a production standpoint, but he had a play in week one where he was about six inches from scoring a touchdown.
60:28He had a curl route where he caught the ball and his body was in the end zone, but the ball was not in the end zone.
60:37He also played pretty badly in week one. He had a long drop on a 50-yard reception, another one that would have been 20-25 yards.
60:46There's been a lot of production left on the field.
60:49That's not something you like to see, but it's not like it's going to change how this offense operates overall.
60:56Amin Ross St. Brown can't get any more volume than what he's had so far.
61:01Sam Laporta I don't think is going to suddenly expand into a 25% target share at Jameau's expense, and they're not going to play Isaac DeSla over Jameau.
61:10I'm not really worried about the Jameau role at all.
61:13I think when you have Jameau Williams, you have to accept there's going to be four games.
61:19He was the wide receiver 10 overall in half PPR last year and he had three games with under 10 receiving yards
61:26including two where he had zero catches for zero receiving yards.
61:30It could get a lot worse for Jameau Williams.
61:33This is the player that he is. Obviously the wide receiver 10 finished last year was inflated a little bit.
61:40I think that when you have Jameau you have to accept going to be wild fluctuations in scoring.
61:46He's going to have to in week 11. He was one of the four receivers and if you go online you have
61:53to check in and see if I agree. I mean we talked about this on team by team.
61:59He's just got to catch the ball man. I mean six catches on 13 targets is just not set and some people can't tolerate it.
62:08People are tweeting at me Adam Jamison sucks. You have to be willing to stomach this when you take Jamison I think.
62:15All right. Dake will go ahead with your move to make ahead of week three.
62:20Yeah. If somebody really doesn't understand the upgrade that's happening at quarterback and expected upgrade because Michael Penix is coming off another ACL tear.
62:28This is a big ask for him to come in and play really well but expected upgraded quarterback clearly you could try to buy on Drake London.
62:37Mark go ahead. Doing another buy here and that's the buy Tucker Kraft hitting the tight end position at least but I
62:45think Jack laid out a lot of good points too when we were talking about the Packers without Jaden Reed Tucker Kraft
62:52coming off this ACL we to Tucker Kraft is very likely going to be filling out the short area yardage targets that
62:59Jaden Reed leaves behind and we haven't gotten official word on Reed status but it sounds like he to Kraft Golden and
63:07Watson here and you know Golden and Watson are the hot names since they've had big games in Kraft we haven't seen
63:14it yet is he done also to the next few games will pay the Panthers in the next six games so I
63:22think now is really the time to buy on we don't know if he's played a good one because he hasn't played
63:29a football game in three years last week I had by Trevion Henderson shout out to me Mark had sell Cam Scadaboo
63:36shout out including Daigle can the slappies finally be done with Jonathan Brooks yes yes why can we not why can we
63:44not be done with this guy is enough already I mean he has not played a good football game in like three
63:51plus years we're talking about Marshawn Lloyd level all right well enough's enough I'm keeping record of these going forward giving Mark
63:58a win giving me a win I'm giving Jack a loss and I'm giving Daigle a turbo loss yes all right I
64:06will go with ahead of week three by Jeremiah Love I know it has not been the greatest start to Jeremiah Love's
64:13NFL career he's only averaging 3.5 yards per carry he's been out snapped by Tyler Algier 76 52 I think we need
64:21some context here he had the preseason ankle injury said he wasn't even 100% for week one even though he played and
64:28then in week two Cardinals had to play the Seahawks despite the way they played in that game against the Seahawks I
64:35actually think Arizona is probably a little bit better not a lot but a little bit better than people thought before the
64:43season like in the right spots they're going to score points and I've been encouraged that they're going to let Bursette drop
64:50back and kind of sling it a ton and get into some of these weird games like they got into last year
64:57so in easier matchups and they get 49ers Giants Lions their next three they also get by the way Jets Saints and
65:05Raiders in the fantasy playoffs in easier matchups I think you'll see more efficiency from Jeremiah Love and also from a workload
65:12perspective I think this is the lowest he will be valued all season if people want to give up on such an
65:20elite talent two weeks into his NFL career I'm buying just buy the talent and let the chips fall where they may
65:27so we're here at 28 overall on Jeremiah Love people might think that is too high in your league I think that's
65:34around correct I might even have him a little bit higher here just on man this dude is exciting when he gets
65:42the ball and like the more they're trailing the more love should play I know that didn't play out in week two
65:49but given their schedule and everything the more they're trailing more love should play I mean the Falcons never wanted to play
65:56Tyler Algier on passing down so yeah I think it's a good time to buy as low as you can on Jeremiah
66:04Love all right that's gonna do it for another edition of the rest of season top 150 show be sure to hit
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