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2:16This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play!
2:19It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
2:25Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:28All right, let's get into starter sit for week seven.
2:31Very excited for tonight's game, but we have seven other games to talk about.
2:36AFC home games mostly. Kansas City at Seattle. It's not an AFC home game, I promise.
2:41Most of them are Cincinnati at Baltimore. Giants at Houston.
2:44Pittsburgh at New Orleans in Paris. Miami is at the Jets.
2:47The Rams are at the Raiders. Cleveland is at Tennessee.
2:50The game we've all been waiting for. Good morning, Jamie.
2:54Good morning. Good morning, Heath. Hey, Adam. Heath, I love what you're doing today.
2:58You're being risky with the players you love. Well, you know, I thought that instead of just giving guys that I viewed
3:05as must-starts, I should talk about some guys that I'm higher on than anybody else, and I think some of them are
3:12from games that we're not talking about today, so that'll be good.
3:16Oh, okay. Perfect, yeah. And, yeah, all right, we'll get into it.
3:20I mean, I feel like I needed to add something extra to the show because you made your, like, importance really shown
3:27yesterday and why you make this show so great.
3:29And so I'm trying to up my game a little bit.
3:33Just want everyone to know. Well, it's not true about my socks, but my clothing today is completely intact.
3:39My socks have plenty of holes in them, unfortunately.
3:42You got to show it now. The socks? Did you sleep in the clothes you were wearing?
3:47I don't really think that's relevant, if we're being honest.
3:50That's the hoodie. You slept in the hoodie that you said you sleep in.
3:55I did. It's a different hoodie, but, yes, I did sleep in this hoodie.
3:59Can we see? Come on, man. Nobody wants to see your socks.
4:03What? That's not a hole. That's a crater. I don't know.
4:06It happened yesterday. I don't know. We got a busy show.
4:10This is disgusting. That happened yesterday, and you're still wearing them?
4:13Let's get into the players we love brought to you by.
4:17Oh, my God. What? Let's show that again. If you knew how many of my socks had holes in them.
4:23That's not a hole. That's not a sock. What's up, everyone?
4:27This is a bit. You did this on purpose.
4:30No, I didn't. I didn't. Dude. Let's get into the players we love.
4:34I'm sending you socks right now. That's horrible. I've been talking to my wife about, I got to order socks.
4:40I got to order socks, and I never do.
4:43I never do. It's funny you say that, because I just went.
4:47I had to get my son cleats, and my wife was like, oh, can you get me some socks?
4:53Because she needs some socks. I'm like, you know, I probably need some socks, too.
4:57So I bought socks. I'm just going to order you socks.
5:01Okay. Can you do bombas? I like bombas. Bombas are the best.
5:05That's a good point from Tony. Like, you might be warmer in your house if you just wore clothing that didn't have holes in them.
5:13That's incredible. I didn't really wear them that much yesterday.
5:16All right. Anyway, let's get into players we love.
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5:27Get styled today at stitchfix.com slash football. Jamie, give me players you love this week.
5:31Braylon Allen, baby. Let's go. Bombas, Nike. Whatever socks.
5:34Please send this man some socks. Oh, my gosh.
5:37You got to have GoFundMe set up for this.
5:40Anyway. Yeah. Braylon Allen, you know, the two L's in his name look like two socks.
5:45Yeah. He's hopefully going to be the starter for the Jets from the standpoint of I made him the start of the week.
5:52So that could change, obviously, if Brees Hall plays.
5:55Didn't practice on Wednesday. But, you know, Allen's in a great spot.
5:59Dolphins third worst in terms of most fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs.
6:03He's 12.4 points or more each of his last two games.
6:07So should have an opportunity for another strong performance here.
6:10And, again, just keep an eye on the news, and we'll see if Brees Hall plays.
6:15It's going to be very interesting to see what they do with Hall and Allen.
6:20We've been talking about this now for a couple weeks.
6:23Once Brees Hall is healthy, Aaron Glenn kind of said, you know, Brees is our guy.
6:28But I can't imagine that they're going to, you know, limit Braylon Allen to just a backup role or not giving him
6:35maybe 30 to 40 percent of the touches just because he's been so good.
6:39So hopefully that will continue. All right. Kyler Murray is another guy you like.
6:44So you have Braylon Allen, Kyler Murray, and Steelers wide receivers at New Orleans.
6:48Yeah, so Kyler, last time we saw him, 51 rushing yards.
6:52Hopefully that's going to be something that's a little bit more consistent for him.
6:56Not necessarily 51, but he was in the teens in the first two games that he played.
7:02This will be the first time that he has his full complement of weapons because he has not played a full game
7:09yet with both – with all three of – excuse me, Jordan Addison, Justin Jefferson, and TJ Hawkinson.
7:14Everybody's seemingly healthy going into this week. It's a great matchup, as we know.
7:19The Colts, not exactly the best in terms of stopping quarterbacks.
7:22And they've struggled a little bit with some rushing quarterbacks.
7:25Lamar Jackson in week one and Marcus Mariota. Both those guys ran for 35 yards.
7:30So hopefully that will be something for Kyler Murray once again.
7:34And then the last time, obviously, we saw the two Steelers guys, it was fantastic for Jeremy Bernard and DK Metcalf.
7:40Jeff, Sauce Gardner may play dealing with a Cavaliers, but their secondary may be a little bit weaker.
7:46But I think we're going to see another game where – not to the same degree of targets.
7:52Both guys were north of 11 targets. I don't think that will continue.
7:56A guy that Heath likes is going to be involved as well in Pat Friermuth.
8:01But I think we're going to get another strong performance from Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball against his Saints secondary.
8:07You've mentioned Sauce Gardner there. Why? Is it me on?
8:10Sorry, why was I thinking of the Colts? Excuse me.
8:13The Saints are not exactly the best. I'm all for an all-time.
8:17You were thinking of the Colts because of Kyler Murray.
8:20No, no. Yeah, yeah. Probably. But in the case of the Saints, their secondary is obviously not great.
8:26They've given up a lot of production to opposing wide receivers.
8:29And I just want to have it. There's one of my favorite stats for the week.
8:35Let me get there. In regards to multiple receivers having success in the same game.
8:39Where is it? Oh, one time already this season.
8:42They've allowed multiple receivers to get 13.4 PPR points or more.
8:46So I think that'll be a good opportunity for both these guys to have success.
8:50Metcalf face in that picture looks like you just saw my sock.
8:54I'm actually trying to figure out if these are small or medium.
8:58I'm going to order new socks like right now.
9:01All right. Heath, you're taking a different approach to this exercise this week.
9:05You're giving us some players that you're higher on than Dave and Jamie are.
9:09They're not must-start guys, but you like them more than consensus.
9:13Yeah. And I have them all ranked as starters if you are in a league that has a flex.
9:19So Roshon Johnson is a high, high-end flex for me.
9:22Really kind of a borderline RB2. I said to you before the show, I think he's very similar in my projections to Ramondre Stevenson and Josh Jacobs.
9:31I think you're going to get probably 10 to 15 touches.
9:34This Bears run offense. I think if you look at the matchup against the Patriots tonight, and the Bears run offense against
9:41the Patriots run defense, the Bears pass offense against the Patriots pass defense, I think the matchup is better for the run offense for the Chicago Bears.
9:50Roshon had a fantastic game last week, had five catches the game before.
9:54He's had almost exactly the same role as Kyle Monongai, 40% snap share, playing every other drive.
9:59A very good flex, maybe an RB2. I hate the fact that I have to make the Roshon-Josh Jacobs decision in multiple
10:06leagues, and I'm probably just going to split it.
10:09Kirk Cousins against the Rams. The Rams defense is very good.
10:12Kirk Cousins has played several good defenses and produced a lot of fantasy points against most of them.
10:18This is a guy who leads the NFL in passing touchdowns with 14.
10:22I think he's tied with someone, but I don't know who it is.
10:26Averaging 260 pass yards per game, and that includes week one when he only threw for 170 yards and an easy win against the Dolphins.
10:34I think Kirk Cousins is just a top 12 quarterback.
10:37I would start him over Caleb Williams tonight, which seems insane to some people, but I'd also start him over Tyler Shuck,
10:44who I'm going to talk about in just a moment.
10:48And then Pat Fryermuth last week was a big letdown.
10:51I think we get a big bounce back. Remember, he was placed on the injury report at the very end of the
10:58week with that tight calf, and I was very encouraged to see that he was a full participant in their most recent practice, not on the injury report.
11:07Pat Fryermuth should be a full go. Aaron Rodgers should have a great day, and I like his chances of getting into the end zone.
11:14I'm starting him over Colston Loveland and Kyle Pitts.
11:17You know what Sunday is, right? Oh, it is national.
11:21Oh, it's national tight end day. And Todd, listen to this, dude.
11:24It's Friday with birthday. A guy named Todd at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
11:27It is also Pat Fryermuth's birthday on Sunday. Oh, my gosh.
11:31Yeah, he turns 28. I'm too low. You know what would be even better?
11:35What? If he was from Paris. That would be great, or if he bought me some socks.
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12:04That's stitchfix.com slash football. Johnny, with another note we missed, Sundays also change your sock day at Adams House.
12:10Yeah, once a week. He does that once a week.
12:13Yeah. I think that— That's not a sock. I played tennis in all these socks, and I think I need separate socks
12:20for tennis because I think I've basically ripped, like, all of my socks.
12:25It's pretty bad. Players to avoid, Heath. So we're looking at Zach Charbonnet Sunday night against Kansas City.
12:30Keenan Allen, the red-hot Keenan Allen at Minnesota, and Colson Loveland tonight.
12:34Yeah, Charbonnet is— Listen, coming back from the ACL, probably a little bit earlier than we expected.
12:39I think he's going to eventually be the lead running back for this offense.
12:44He might be the lead running back by a very small split this week against the Chiefs, but it's not a good matchup.
12:51It's a projected low-scoring game. He's going to be sharing, and he's probably got a lot of rust to shake off.
12:58I wouldn't expect him to be hyper-efficient in this game.
13:01I would much rather start Roshon Johnson, but I think I'm the only one that feels that way.
13:07You have to bring him off the pup, put him on your bench.
13:11You can start him in a week or two.
13:14Who were the other guys? Keenan Allen. I hate this situation.
13:17Maybe this is just me wishing it would change, but also it's the Vikings, and their pass defense is incredible.
13:23His whole game is based on the fact that he's going to get a bunch of targets, and I'm just not sure
13:30the Colts are going to be able to stay on the field enough, run enough plays, to be able to get him
13:37the volume he needs to be a good—he's wide receiver 37.
13:41If you have to start him as a number three, it's not the end of the world.
13:46But I don't think he has any upside at all in this game, and the floor is not very high either.
13:53Colston Loveland against the Patriots—we talked about this a little bit yesterday.
13:57They've been incredible against tight ends except for Brock Bowers, who scored 91% of his fantasy points this season not playing as an in-line tight end.
14:05Colston Loveland's about 50-50 in that regard. They've destroyed in-line tight ends.
14:09I am not super excited about the Bears' pass game, as I said earlier with Caleb, and so I don't want to start Loveland.
14:16Okay. So with Minnesota, we'll talk about this game tomorrow.
14:20I mean, there's just so few players that I'd ever want to start against Minnesota.
14:24Like, right? And Keenan Allen's not one of them?
14:27I mean, no. You know, no offense to him, but I just feel like Daniel Jones could get benched after this game
14:34because Minnesota's going to just humiliate him. He could get benched during this game.
14:39Yeah. Yeah, benched for who, though? Anthony Richardson. No.
14:41I don't think— Well, he's the QB2. It happened to his team.
14:45He's not going to go to Anthony Richardson. Well, I don't know.
14:49This is going to be a tough day for any quarterback who's not, you know, like, cerebral against Minnesota.
14:55It's really tough. So— Hey, Daniel Jones went to Duke.
14:58He said, sit Zach Charbonnet, Keenan Allen, and Colston Loveland.
15:01Jamie's sitting Michael Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, and the Saints running backs.
15:05Michael Wilson against Denver. Probably— Now, we did get Sertan practicing yesterday, but it's the report— There was a report that said
15:12more likely for week eight for Sertan. Mahomes at Seattle Sunday night.
15:16Saints running backs against Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean, Wilson's gotten worse since Marvin Harrison left, and it's hard to trust him just as a must-start guy.
15:24Clearly, you're going to still start him in three receiver leagues, but—unless you're Sportsline, which is just completely out at this point.
15:31So we'll see what happens with Sertan. I think if Sertan does play where Sportsline has him ranked, which is 40th, it's
15:38probably closer to where I'll have him right now.
15:41Right now, he's 30. But it's just been frustrating to watch that Jacoby Brissett is not exactly featuring him to the same level.
15:48And when I say that, we saw last year—we saw it in one game this year when Harrison was still on the team—double-digit targets.
15:56So it just hasn't been easy for this Cardinals passing attack, and I think just the lack of a run game once again has sort of limited them.
16:04So coming off a game against the Rams, that's still a really good defense.
16:09I know that they were beat up in that game.
16:12Broncos' defense is still really good. They're going to be rested after playing last Thursday for the previous week.
16:18So I think we'll see a situation where Michael Wilson struggles once again.
16:22Mahomes, Rashi Rice did not practice on Wednesday. We saw what that looked like a little bit last week.
16:28It's the Kenneth Walker show. He's facing Seattle. He's going to get a lot of work.
16:33I just don't think Mahomes has a high ceiling in this game.
16:37We know that Seattle's pass defense has been very good for the most part.
16:41Only two quarterbacks over 20 fantasy points against them.
16:44Brock Purdy was one, and he got the surprise from Marcus Mariota.
16:48So I don't think Mahomes has a big game here.
16:51And then for the Saints, it's just trying to trust these guys against the Steelers' defense.
16:56Kamara has scored three touchdowns, which has saved him two rushing touchdowns in the first game that Travis Achan missed, the receiving touchdown last week against the Giants.
17:05He's basically been 12 total touches or less in each of the last three games.
17:10Meanwhile, Kendra Miller has 40 total touches over that span and has scored nine PPR points or less.
17:16So it was just tough to figure out which is going to be the better of the two.
17:21I would like to avoid this situation, if possible, taking on the Spitsburg defense.
17:26Okay. So just to recap, players we love. For Jamie, it was Braylon Allen.
17:30He's the start of the week. Kyler Murray, Steelers wide receivers.
17:34For Heath, it was lower end guys. They're playing the Colts, right?
17:38The Steelers? What's that? The Colts are playing the Steelers.
17:41Steelers out to Saints in Paris. Roshon Johnson for Heath.
17:44Kirk Cousins and Pat Fryer with lower end guys.
17:47And avoiding for Heath, Charbonnet, Keenan Allen, Colson Loveland.
17:50For Jamie, Michael Wilson, Patrick Mahomes and the Saints running backs.
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18:23Here's the ad of the day. Really mad at myself for not doing this.
18:28Jamie added Fernando Mendoza for $0 in our Superflex League.
18:31I thought that was brilliant, Jamie. And JJ McCarthy, by comparison, not to say this was a bad bid, $61.
18:37So I'd rather have Fernando Mendoza at $0. Good job.
18:40If you're in a Superflex League, just keep it in mind.
18:44Cousins has been a little shaky, completing 60% of his passes over his last three games.
18:49They've lost three in a row, I believe. So it could happen at some point.
18:54It's coming. I mean, it's just a matter of when it's happening.
18:57It's really more about the wins and losses. He's not playing poorly.
19:01No. Okay. No, that Mendoza. I didn't even realize Mendoza was available.
19:05It was a bad job by me. I added McCarthy and I already have three quarterbacks.
19:10But we're going to try to get a trade done today.
19:14Yeah. And just let's accept or reject my trade in the Eliminator League.
19:18I'm waiting to see Brees Hall's practice status today.
19:20All right. Fine. Let's, what if we, no. FFT Open, I have to tell you, if you're in the FFT Open, I
19:27have to get this off my chest. You forgot about this yesterday.
19:31Yes. And tell everybody because it's happened twice now.
19:34And I'm sorry if you're not in the FFT Open.
19:37There is a setting where you are required to have five bench players.
19:41If you don't have five players on your bench, you have an illegal lineup.
19:46And you score zero fantasy points. Twice this year, I've had people, or maybe three times, but at least twice I've had
19:53people email me or the league and say, I can't believe this happened.
19:57I got a zero because I didn't have enough players on my bench.
20:01They had someone in IR that they could have just put on their bench.
20:05So I went and I fixed their lineup. But you have to do this not Tuesday morning, not Monday night.
20:12You got to tell me on Sunday. And why do I have this setting to begin with?
20:17Because I don't want people to accidentally not carry enough people on their bench and not realize they had an open bench spot.
20:24So it's done to help you to make sure you have that you're rostering as many people as you're capable of rostering.
20:31I will never let people lose a week and get a zero because they didn't have enough players on their bench.
20:38I will fix that for you. But please, if you see any issue with your scoring, any issue, and you need my
20:45help, 36 leagues I'm the commissioner up. So help me out.
20:49Please don't wait until Monday night or Tuesday. Please tell me as soon as possible that there is an issue.
20:55Just message your league and I'll see it. I've never known a commissioner that creates more work for himself than you do.
21:02It's like you're constantly looking for ways to make it harder than it has to be.
21:07Look, man, I could be spending my time shopping for socks, but I'd rather help people in the FFT Open.
21:13All right, we'll be right back with your news and notes, one question for each game, and seven breakdowns of games after this.
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24:39Listen, it's a Thursday show, and we don't have time for a conversation about this, Adam, but I just want you to
24:46know the chat hates that rule, and I'm with the chat.
24:49What rule? That you have to have enough bench players on your team or your lineup's illegal.
24:54Well, that's the thing. It's like, it hardly ever is an issue, but I don't want, I've been in leagues, it's been
25:01a while, where I was like, oh, I can carry an extra bench player?
25:06I didn't realize that I wasn't at my roster maximum.
25:09I'm just trying to help people make sure that they max out their roster.
25:13So it's just a guideline, and it's so easy.
25:16You see this notification says you need a reserve.
25:19Just put someone in IR on your reserve or pick someone up.
25:23All right, news and notes. JJ McCarthy is starting for the Giants.
25:27Did that change your rankings of Isaiah Lightley or Malik Nabors?
25:30Moved Nabors down a couple spots, but he was probably too high to begin with, so hopefully it's not going to be a disaster for him.
25:38But it was, I thought he played fairly well.
25:41McCarthy did against the Saints and then helped Nabors as well.
25:45Also. And I think they're really doing it to try to boost the run game because he's more like Jackson Dart.
25:51They designed their offense around Jackson Dart, their run game around Jackson Dart with read options and things like that.
25:58So they can't run the ball. It seems like that was a big motivating factor.
26:03Baker Mayfield practiced in full this week. So yesterday, sorry, he might be in play.
26:07Jordan Love was limited, but he says he'll play.
26:10Lamar Jackson was limited and was apparently limping. So I'm assuming you guys are not expecting Jackson at this point.
26:16No. That game opened, I think, with Baltimore as a three and a half point favorite.
26:22Cincinnati is now a one point favorite. So that tells you what they're thinking.
26:26Jordan Mason practiced in full. Kyle Manonga is out.
26:29Todd Monkens optimistic about Dylan Sampson and Quinshawn Judkins playing this week.
26:33Jeremiah Love missed practice. Zach Charbonnet practiced in full.
26:35David Montgomery missed practice. Jawar Jordan's on IR. Sean Tucker practiced in full.
26:40Jonah Coleman was designated to return from IR. So he's got 21 days to be activated.
26:45And Brees Hall missed practice. Jordan Addison is expected to play.
26:48Emeka Abuka may not play. He's got a foot injury and a concussion.
26:52And they're at Carolina this week. A very big game there.
26:56Christian Watson and Matthew Golden were limited. I'm assuming they're fine.
26:59Caleb Douglas could be on his way back this week for the Dolphins.
27:03We haven't really seen all three of the top receivers for the Dolphins on the field at the same time.
27:10Rasheed, pardon me, Rasheed Rice missed practice. Keenan Allen missed practice.
27:13He should be fine. Christian Kirk practiced in full.
27:16Mike Evans is not expected to play. And Debo Samuel missed practice.
27:20So Christian Kirk is a guy that you might want to pick up.
27:24Adonai Mitchell was limited in practice. Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion were limited.
27:28I assume they're okay. Rashad Bateman was limited. That's good news for him.
27:32Jordan Tyson not going to practice this week. And then they have a bye next week.
27:37Maybe he starts practicing at some point. TJ Hawkinson practiced.
27:40Travis Kelsey, I didn't realize he played through an ankle injury.
27:44He hurt his ankle in the first quarter against the Chargers last week.
27:48So he'll be on the injury report. I think he was limited yesterday.
27:52He should play, but he's got an ankle thing going on.
27:56Sam Laporte is pissed off. He wants a contract extension.
27:59Dalton Schultz missed practice. And that's actually one where it may not just be a Wednesday thing.
28:04I'm assuming Schultz will play, but we'll keep an eye on it.
28:08Brock Bowers was limited with hamstring and calf issues.
28:11The fact that he was limited is a good sign.
28:14Tyler Warren missed last week and did not practice on Wednesday.
28:17The big offensive line stuff, other than the Patriots being depleted tonight, we've got the Giants.
28:23Three offensive tackles. The two starters and the top backup all missed practice.
28:27I would say definitely their right tackle. He missed last week's game.
28:30I think Andrew Thomas will play, but keep an eye on the Giants.
28:35The Vikings getting healthier with Christian Derisaw on his way back.
28:38The Lions are getting their center Cade Mays back.
28:41The Bucs might be without right tackle Luke Gedeke.
28:44On defense, also the Giants. The Giants could be without their starting cornerback and safety because they're both in the concussion protocol.
28:51The Colts' top two cornerbacks both mispracticed yesterday. The Texans had a lot of guys on the injury report yesterday.
28:57We're definitely going to have to keep an eye on that.
29:01We'll talk about it as we preview the game.
29:03And big news for the Lions. They're getting their safety Brian Branch back this week.
29:08That's huge. We had a comment about my rule, my roster rule.
29:12Someone said even Azar's roster rule has a hole in it.
29:15That's very funny. All right. One question for each game.
29:19Heath, Kansas City's at Seattle. Would you start anyone other than the two obvious guys, JSN, and Kenneth Walker in this game?
29:26I'm probably starting Travis Kelsey if he's a full go.
29:29Oh, man. I'm so disappointed in him. And the Seahawks' third best against tight ends.
29:34Trey McBride had eight catches for 41 yards and a touchdown on 10 targets.
29:38Not exactly a great game. George Kittle had five for 24 on six targets.
29:42So, I mean, is he top 12 for you?
29:45Yeah, he's top 12. Okay. I'm not so excited.
29:48Cincinnati's at Baltimore. Jamie, start or sit? Chase Brown.
29:51Still starting him. You know, this is, I think, one of these guys that you still start by default with the hope
29:58that he's coming off a bye weekend is going to have a productive game.
30:02You know, this Ravens run defense, we've, you know, seen some hit or misses against them.
30:07So, I don't think it's one that you say, oh, my God, you can't play anyone against them.
30:13But you like to see involvement in the passing game.
30:16I think that's always big for Chase Brown and not a lot of work for Samaj AP right.
30:22Okay. But he's not ranked where he normally is.
30:25He's about 15th for everybody, Chase Brown. Facing Baltimore, who has a pretty good run defense.
30:30The Giants are at Houston. Am I crazy, Heath?
30:33I love Woody Marks. I'm fired. Yeah, I almost used, if I hadn't gone with the new theme, I would have said
30:40Woody Marks for the player that I love, but Dave loves him more.
30:44Sportsline loves him more. He's a high-end RB2. George Orton's now on something called practice squad injured reserve that I don't think I've ever heard of before.
30:52But he's not going to play. So, it'll be Daria Gumbawale, I guess, and Woody Marks, which may cut into his work
30:59in the passing game just a little bit. But he might have 20 carries.
31:04This is a great matchup for running backs. Start him.
31:07It's interesting that it's going to be a Gumbawale, because a Gumbawale has barely been playing.
31:12I mean, Woody Marks is running like 60% of the routes, which is cool.
31:16But who else is... I don't know if they have any other running backs available.
31:21No, it's just a good point. I didn't really think about that.
31:25It might take away some of the passing down stuff.
31:28But you get carries against the Giants, and they've allowed 12.5 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every
31:35game, including Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt and Tyler Algier and Alvin Kamara.
31:38But Woody Marks, he did have four games last year with 16 to 19 carries.
31:43And single-digit PPR fantasy points. It's a better offense, though.
31:46It is, and it's a great matchup. So we're looking forward to Woody Marks.
31:51Woody Marks or Chase Brown? Chase Brown. Okay. Pittsburgh's at New Orleans.
31:54Jamie, Aaron Rodgers or Tyler Shuck? Aaron Rodgers. Shuck makes me nervous this week, just given the fact that he's underperformed the
32:01last couple of games and really kind of coincides with breaking his left hand.
32:06I don't know how much of that is impacting him just as an overall player.
32:11Now, granted, last week he gave you four total touchdowns, so take that into account.
32:15But that was against the Giants. This is a much tougher defense against the Steelers, and I just think Shuck is going to struggle a little bit.
32:24Yeah, he did not play nearly as well as 33 fantasy points would indicate against the Giants.
32:2916 to 30 passing. His completions have been a little bit off the last couple of weeks.
32:35I thought he was plagued a little bit by drops last week, but not to the effect that it should have been that much better.
32:43And for Rodgers, look, it's four straight games of 20 or more fantasy points.
32:47The Saints, three of their last four games, the quarterback group has been over 24 fantasy points, I believe it is, with
32:54what the Giants combined to do last week. So Rodgers, I just feel like, is in a great spot.
33:00Okay. Both guys, I think, probably didn't perform as well as their fantasy points last week because Rodgers had a lot of,
33:07he had like eight points in overtime. Uh, Miami's at the Jets.
33:11We know that Jamie loves, uh, Braylon Allen Heath, but what about Ollie Gordon averaging more yards per carry than Jameer Gibbs this year?
33:18Starter set. You've got to start him. Um, I don't actually like it, but I think that there are like 15 good
33:25starting running backs this week and Woody, if you want to count him, make 16 and Ollie, if you want to count him, make 17.
33:33But, um, we're, that's just kind of where we are.
33:37He's dominating touches and the dolphins backfield. This, this game doesn't look like, and again, we've had a lot of dolphins games
33:43that the odds have said, we're going to be blowouts that they've kept it within a score.
33:49I think they probably keep this one within a score too.
33:52So he's probably going to have 16 or more touches.
33:56Rams are at the Raiders. Let's talk tight ends.
33:58Jamie, Michael Mayer or Tyler Higbee? I would go Higbee.
34:02Uh, but it's close. Um, you know, the Rams, as we discussed yesterday, this is the, the, this is the Raiders true tight end, you know?
34:10And so I think this is the guy that gets, you know, the, the tougher coverage, uh, by comparison.
34:16And I say that with Trent McDuffie probably not playing cause that would be what I think the Rams would do is put McDuffie on Bowers.
34:24Uh, but Mayer has been awesome in three of his last four games, uh, coinciding, uh, ironically enough with Bowers returning 12.2
34:31PPR brought some more in three of those games.
34:34Uh, but we've seen, this is the team that has allowed the fewest receiving yards to tight ends so far this season.
34:41They've done a great job on some big name guys, Isaiah likely George Kittle.
34:45Um, they felt, they held training bride and check for what he typically does.
34:50So I think Mayer is going to struggle a little bit now.
34:53Does that mean Higbee is the best tight end for the Rams?
34:57I could not tell you. I think we'll see both of them be significantly involved without Devante Adams, but I still would lean Higbee over Parkinson.
35:06So I would rank the non Bowers tight ends in this game.
35:09Higbee, Mayer, Parkinson. I agree. I think, um, there's a pretty big, it's all, it's almost like Higbee and Parkinson aren't playing
35:16the same position right now because Higbee is lining up more in the, uh, either in the slot or outside and getting targeted more downfield.
35:24Parkinson, everything was really close to the line of scrimmage.
35:27So he needs a lot of targets to even be okay.
35:31I think you got to treat Parkinson. It's almost similar to the, the, the Raider situation.
35:36Higbee is going to be until Ferguson returns more of the Devante Adams replacement.
35:40He is not going to be Devante Adams, but he is going to be more of the receiving option of the tight end group.
35:48Yeah. Yeah. He has, he's had one game with a target share over 13% so far Higbee, but you know, we, this is a big opportunity for him.
35:57And remember in weeks to Terrence week to Terrence Ferguson was great without Puka week three, Tyler Higbee was great without Puka,
36:04but that was a game where Stafford threw 54 passes or something like that.
36:08Cleveland's at Tennessee. Who's the best flex option in this game?
36:12Heath, we have a lot of guys that are, I think kind of on the, okay.
36:17Who's second best. Let's say Judkins plays. It's probably Judkins.
36:20He's very, very close in full PPR to Wandale for me.
36:23I'll be interested to see what the split is between Judkins and Samson and Samson's first game back.
36:29And most importantly, where the targets go, because this team has thrown to their running backs a lot more than I expected this year.
36:37Is Samson in the Raheem Sanders role? Does Judkins have five targets this week?
36:41I think that'll kind of be the key. So I would go Tate.
36:45Then Judkins just barely over Robinson. We're going to do a quick team name Thursday before we get into the game from the Gridiron Guru.
36:53And this is for Jamie. What's the schmata with you?
36:56Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that out too.
36:59Kansas City's at Seattle. Let's do this here. Sunday night football, big game.
37:03Hakuna mashmata. Okay, Kansas City's, this is incredible stat.
37:06Incredible stat. Patrick Mahomes, I believe True Media defines a deep ball as a, passive 20 or more air yards.
37:13Patrick Mahomes did not throw a deep ball last week for the first time in his career.
37:18In any game that he didn't leave early with an injury, he did not throw a deep ball in a game.
37:25His ADOT, his air yards per target was something like 3.6 yards, which would make Bo Nix look like, I don't know, Jameis Winston.
37:32But it was a really boring offense. But also, he's not throwing that much.
37:37And that's what I wanted to explore. Why is Patrick Mahomes not throwing so much?
37:41Well, they are 25th in time of possession. That's not great.
37:45But the Chiefs are 24th in pass rate. And they've been top 11 in pass rate, eight straight seasons, top seven in pass attempts per game.
37:53In six straight seasons, right now they're 22nd in pass attempts per game.
37:57So, I mean, Heath, when you project Patrick Mahomes, are you projecting 30 pass attempts?
38:02He's only been above that once. That was a lot of words to say, Kenneth Walker is awesome.
38:08That's why that she, like if Kenneth Walker is going to get you six yards to carry, why would you throw the ball?
38:15And he doesn't have his deep threats in Taequann Thornton and Rashi Rice has been kind of a deeper threat this year.
38:22I've got him projected for 31 pass attempts. I have no interest in starting Patrick Mahomes.
38:27I don't really want to start Xavier Worthy. Um, I, this is a, probably a low scoring, ugly game and it's the, the ultimate revenge game.
38:35I mean, Kenneth Walker, his team chose to pay Rashid Shaheed instead of him after he won Superbowl MVP.
38:41Like, come on. Yeah. I will say that for the, for the chiefs and maybe it's not this week, but just think about going forward.
38:49They have faced some of the very worst defense offense offenses in football.
38:53They faced Denver, the Colts, the Dolphins, the Raiders, and the Chargers.
38:57I was going to say that because that's true.
39:00And last week was the most, I wouldn't call it cowardly.
39:03It was probably just smart, but Andy Reed basically just said, we're not going to lose this game.
39:09We're not going to take any chances. We're going to kick field goals when we can kick field goals.
39:15We're just going to like, there's no reason this team should be able to beat us.
39:20We are not going to lose. Okay. So that was a whole long winded thing of being like this passing game.
39:27Has it been great? Jamie, I think we want to get away from Mahomes.
39:31I saw a question in the chat. Mahomes or Baker Mayfield, if he plays.
39:36I'd probably still go to Mahomes, especially if a book is up.
39:40Okay. And then how do you feel about Xavier Worthy right now?
39:43Assuming Rashid Rice doesn't play Xavier Worthy with seven for 70 last week, I think.
39:48And how do you feel about him? Low in number three receiver.
39:52I would expect worse numbers against the Seahawks. Okay.
39:55So would you start, obviously you're going to start the Steelers guys over Xavier Worthy.
40:00Zach Charbonnet or Xavier Worthy? I think PPR Worthy makes more sense because he'll catch more passes, but wouldn't surprise me if Charbonnet is better.
40:07We talked about Travis Kelsey. He says he's a top 12 guy, but not like, oh, actually, do you still have him sixth?
40:15I think he's, I think I'm going to move now to seventh, but.
40:19Okay. I'm probably just starting him. More of a low end starter for, for Dave and Jamie, Travis Kelsey.
40:25He is 10th for Dave, 10th for Jave and 11th for Damie, whatever.
40:29All right. Sit Sam Darnold. Let's talk about the running backs in this game for Seattle.
40:34Jamie, what are your expectations this week? Or do we have, do we have any idea what to expect from the.
40:41No idea. I mean, it's, it's, it's tough. I still would expect Emmanuel Wilson to lead them in carries, but he's clearly going to lose work.
40:49As we saw last week, he lost work to Vilas Jones.
40:52He lost work to George Talani. So hopefully it's not three guys, you know, sharing the workload here.
40:58I'm going to guess any goal line opportunities go to Charbonnet.
41:02He's clearly been very successful in that score. 12 rushing touchdowns last year.
41:06We'll see what happens with who is going to be involved in the passing game.
41:10I mean, look, they still have to get Charbonnet going and up to speed.
41:15Granted, he's been practicing for three weeks. So that's a great sign.
41:19He's going to have, you know, even though coming off an injury, fresh legs.
41:23So it wouldn't be totally surprising if he's their best running back.
41:27I think you just got to treat them as flexes.
41:30Again, four teams on a bye, lots of injuries.
41:33I wouldn't want to start any of them with confidence, but if you are stuck, I have a couple of leagues where
41:40Emmanuel Wilson has been my number two running back for the last couple of weeks with Charbonnet on IR.
41:46I'm going to have a tough call to make if I'm going to ask, you know, which of the two that I'm going to start.
41:54I'd lean Charbonnet just because of the touchdown potential.
41:57But it's also a tough matchup. I mean, that's part of it.
42:01It's very tough. I mean, the Chiefs allow 3.3 yards per carry to running backs.
42:05And I think I also am going to have a Charbonnet-Emmanuel Wilson decision.
42:09And I also am going to lean Charbonnet, I think.
42:13But I'm hoping we get some reports. We usually do about these types of players and what they're expected.
42:19I got a billion questions about it too. Okay, great.
42:22So in the chat, you're saying? Yeah, I'm just going to Charbonnet or this, Charbonnet or that.
42:27Let's star all these Charbonnet questions here and we'll get to them.
42:31Let me just do some quick Mahomes stuff here.
42:34Would you rather start Patrick Mahomes at Seattle or Geno Smith against the Miami Dolphins?
42:39Geno. Geno. Jacoby Brissett against Denver or Mahomes? Mahomes.
42:41Mahomes. Ooh, this is a tough one for me.
42:44Penix or Mahomes? Penix. Mahomes for me. All right.
42:47And we like Kyler, I'm assuming, better than Mahomes.
42:50Ooh, not Heath. Oh, no. Yes. Yes, Heath. Kyler?
42:53Kyler? Yes. Yeah. Kyler over Mahomes. All right. Let's see what the chat has to say here.
42:58Charbonnet or a Minnesota running back against Indianapolis? Minnesota running back.
43:02Both of them? I would start. Mason's active. Yeah.
43:05I'd start them both. Mahomes or Purdy? Oh, Purdy by a mile.
43:08We don't want to start Mahomes this week. And I understand the questions about Purdy.
43:13He just played a very bad fantasy half of football without Mike Evans.
43:17But, like, they did nothing that half. But we're still starting them over Mahomes.
43:22Burden or Charbonnet or Judkins? Burden. Burden. Charbonnet or Blake Corum?
43:25This is one I'd go Charbonnet. I'd go Corum.
43:28I have Charbonnet. Can I drop Emmanuel Wilson? So this is where a lot of people run into a problem.
43:34Because if you're activating Charbonnet off of the pup list or off your IR spot in your fantasy league, you're going to have to drop somebody.
43:43And if Wilson is going to get phased out because Jadarian Price could return, I believe, next week.
43:48So we may not have use for Emmanuel Wilson very much going forward.
43:52So if that's the worst player on your team, then you could certainly go that route.
43:57My guess is Charbonnet is going to – when you look at it and everybody's healthy for Seattle, Emmanuel Wilson's probably not seen the field.
44:05And based on what Mike McDonald said last week, their head coach, it seems like Jadarian Price is trending toward returning in week eight.
44:13Woody Marks, Charbonnet, or Gordon? Woody. Woody Marks. Charbonnet or Bucky Irving?
44:17I'd go on Bucky Irving there. Yep. All right.
44:20Anything else from this game? I think just let me do a few more Xavier Worthys because he was good last week.
44:27And Worthy or Keenan Allen? I'd go Keenan. Worthy or a Cleveland receiver?
44:31Boston for me. I've got Worthy. Worthy or Pop Douglas tonight?
44:34I'd go Douglas. I have Worthy. I guess I do like Worthy.
44:38Worthy or a Doons Day tonight? Worthy. Worthy. Okay.
44:41Let's go to our next game. Actually, I think we're going to have to squeeze in a commercial break here.
44:47Start the Chiefs. Oh, start the Seahawks DST. The Chiefs DST, Heath seemed low on them based on yesterday's rankings.
44:54I don't know if that's changed. Dave and Jamie were high on the Chiefs DST.
44:58They've been pretty good most weeks. Not always. Seattle giving up the six most fantasy points DSTs.
45:04I'm very turnover prone right now. Yeah. You moved him up?
45:07Yeah. Okay. The Chiefs DST run high when Joe Burrow leads the Bengals into Baltimore for an AFC North clash with Derrick Henry and the Ravens.
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45:26And we'll be right back with Cincinnati at Baltimore.
45:28Huge game in the AFC North. And we'll talk about it after this.
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47:27Start Jamar Chase. Start T. Higgins. Jamie, I asked you earlier about Chase Brown, and I want to expand a little bit on it here.
47:35You said stardom. He's about 15th in the rankings, not as high as he usually is.
47:40Right now, he's actually, per game, 25th, or this is actually a week ago.
47:4425th in non-PPR per game, 20th in half PPR, 18th in full PPR.
47:48But anyway, what do you expect this week against the Ravens, who are sixth best against running backs and allow 3.8 yards
47:55per carry and the fewest receiving yards per game to running backs?
47:59It's not going to be pretty. You know, and really it's about the workload.
48:04You know, so I think if you're looking at this and what you're taking away from it is, can Chase Brown still
48:11be the dominant running back for the Bengals? Because what we saw against Miami was Samaj P.
48:16Ryan getting a lot of work and clearly being a factor.
48:19And last year, as you know, you've done a great job, Adam, of noting, is that when P.
48:25Ryan was healthy at the start of the season, Chase Brown was not performing well.
48:30Now, that kind of coincided with Joe Burrow getting hurt, so the offense was clearly in flux.
48:35But if he has a bad workload, then I think we have a real problem on our hands because then the Bengals
48:42are trying to figure out what to do with their backfield and their run game, and that's clearly been an issue for this team.
48:50So I think at this point, you just kind of treat Chase Brown as a starter, and hopefully it's not a complete dud and disappointing performance.
48:58And so basically the way it happened last year was Chase Brown was the lead back, got off to a bad start.
49:05The whole offense got off to a bad start.
49:08Joe Burrow got hurt in week two. After five games, they switched it up, and they split the carries fairly evenly.
49:15Week six through eight, Chase Brown had three games.
49:17He had 32 carries and seven catches. He played 58% of the snaps.
49:22P. Ryan had 22 carries, 10 fewer, and he had three catches, and he played 42% of the snaps.
49:28So it became a much more even split. Then P.
49:31Ryan got hurt, and then Chase Brown's season went berserk.
49:34But just to point that out, this is not unprecedented.
49:37They did start splitting it about 60-40, and it wasn't good for Chase Brown.
49:42Also, they said Dan Pitcher, their offensive coordinator, I believe it was, he said that basically when they run out of shotgun,
49:48I think he said that favors Samajé Pirine. When they run under center, that favors Chase Brown.
49:54I may have switched that, but I'm nervous to see what happens here.
49:58And it sucks that they're coming off the spine and have a bad matchup, because it could be another tough game for Chase Brown.
50:06But yeah, I mean, we have to start him.
50:08I think it was a good thing to talk about, but we're just, the way we are sitting currently at the running
50:15back position, Chase Brown's not somebody you can get away from.
50:19No, but can you get to Samajé Pirine? And before you answer that, Heath, question from the chat, would you trade Chase Brown for Jalen Warren?
50:27I think if we know that there's going to be a timeshare in Cincinnati, then yes, because there's a timeshare in Pittsburgh.
50:34And Jalen Warren... You don't know it yet. You might have to...
50:38That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So you have to make that call, because everything I said was...
50:43I would not make that trade. You would not?
50:46I'm not saying it's a bad trade. It's just not...
50:49It's close enough that I'm just not trading two borderline RB ones for each other when I don't know which one's going to be better.
50:57Yeah. And for what it's worth, you've already had Cincinnati's bye.
51:01And listen, even though it happened last year, I'm not saying it's going to happen again this year.
51:06I don't know what's going to happen in this game.
51:10Now, Heath, your thoughts on Pirine. You said you like Roshon Johnson.
51:13How would you compare the two? I would rather...
51:16I feel more confident in Roshon Johnson playing the role that he's going to play, because it's the same role that Menonga's
51:23played and the same role they've had in this offense for the last two years.
51:28Pirine, as you've already noted, is a little bit more spotty in that regard.
51:32So Pirine's closer to the Emmanuel Wilson portion of my rankings.
51:36He's a fine flex. I wouldn't call him a good flex.
51:39You're probably going to need a touchdown for him to matter for you in fantasy.
51:44I will say this, though. If you don't have to play anyone and you're speculating, you should be speculating on Pirine and
51:51not Roshon, because there was just a report that the Bears are expecting Kyle Menonga to return soon.
51:57Agreed. And, oh, so you would go, I'm assuming you guys would go Chase Brown, Zach Charbonnet, and then Pirine Wilson would be kind of similar.
52:05Like, you'd start Charbonnet over Pirine. I'd start both Seattle running backs over Pirine, yes.
52:10I agree. Any hesitation with T. Higgins this week?
52:13Nope. No. Okay. I'm hoping he just wasn't healthy last game against Miami.
52:17Came into that game with an adductor injury, and he had four targets in a terrible game.
52:22Any interest in Mike Isicchi? No. Touchdown or bust, T.
52:25Higgins. I think you view him like you view Jake Ferguson and Mark Andrews at this point.
52:31Let's start Derek Henry. Is Zay Flowers a must-start, Heath, if Tyler Huntley plays in the two games with him?
52:37He has 14.6 fantasy points and 12.7 fantasy points.
52:40Which is basically the same as what he did last year.
52:43So if you have two or three wide receivers that you think are going to score more than 13 fantasy points and
52:50you wanted to get away from Zay Flowers, you could.
52:53But I think he did that without any touchdowns.
52:56He's a top 15 wide receiver for me. I'm starting him everywhere I have him.
53:01I would say he is a must-start wide receiver, but it is possible that you drafted Matthew Golden, who I would start over him.
53:09And a couple other – maybe you drafted both Packers.
53:12I'd start both of them over him. Would you start Woody Marks or Zay Flowers?
53:17Zay. Half PPR, same question. Zay. Non-PPR? Zay. Would you start T.
53:20Higgins or Zay Flowers? Zay. Okay. I just want to say one more thing about Flowers.
53:25DJ Turner did shadow him in both games. And yes, I know people make fun of me for the shadow thing.
53:32I love it. I love the shadow thing. Call me whatever you want.
53:36DJ Turner shadowed him in both games. And I went and I checked my notes.
53:41So he had two catches for six yards in week 13 against the Bengals.
53:45And then he had three for 68 and a touchdown on five targets in week 15.
53:51But in both games, Zay Flowers had either a touchdown called back on a really bad offensive pass interference penalty.
53:57I don't know if you guys remember that. And then the other game, he dropped a touchdown.
54:02So DJ Turner, I think they're going to try it.
54:05He really can't – like nobody can shadow Zay Flowers' success.
54:09He's not the type of player that those corners want to follow around and try to stick with.
54:15No. I don't know if you saw my tweet yesterday, but I didn't realize until I watched the tape yesterday that Travis
54:22Hunter shadowed Nico Collins last week and did a very good job.
54:25Did you see the thing about him talking about the fake stumble to get the interception?
54:30No. Wow. He says he does this regularly. But he will like when he's running on an out route or running on
54:37a route with someone, he'll squat down for a step so the guy thinks he's falling to get him to throw the ball.
54:45Wow. Okay. He's going to be incredible. He's really – Travis Hunter is blossoming.
54:49Rashad Bateman and Jacoby Lane, Jamie, where do we – how are we feeling about them?
54:54Not great about Bateman. I think with Lane you could hope for a touchdown.
54:59But until Lamar Jackson's back, really the secondary pieces in the passing game are just not going to be fun, safe.
55:05Yeah. You know, it's just – you got to see this offense with Lamar Jackson.
55:10So hopefully he plays. I'm curious if Heath will give you a buyout on the bet if Devontae continues to have big performances with Tanner McKee.
55:18I've offered a buyout. He won't accept any buyouts.
55:21That's not true. That's not true. I don't remember what your term was, but I would accept it.
55:27I gave you a month discount to wear the beard during the season.
55:31All right. I'll come back to you on that one.
55:34I'll come back to you on that one. There's no way you're going to do it.
55:39I think it's more fun if you wear the beard during the season.
55:43I agree. I agree. It's all about – I can't show up to NFL play action looking like that.
55:49That's the thing. Yes, you can. No, I can't.
55:52There's no rule about you can't have beards on TV.
55:55I can't have a stupid beard. Like, they wouldn't go for it.
55:59They would love it. They would love it. It would be their favorite thing.
56:04They dressed you up at the scandals yesterday. They would love it.
56:07They did, yeah. Mark Andrews facing the Bengals. They're so bad against tight ends, even though they haven't allowed a receiving touchdown to a tight end yet.
56:16But we still have him as a sit. It is National Tight Ends Day.
56:20You just never know. All right. I think we're covered here, but I'll get to the chat.
56:26You can't – we can't start all the tight ends, Adam.
56:29I know. I'm not sure Mark Andrews is, like, even capable anymore.
56:33We'll revisit this game if Mar Jackson plays. It would be a boost to the other guys.
56:38Which is – and the answer is easy, but it still should be mentioned.
56:43Which is the bigger travesty? The Seahawks letting Ken Walker walk for Rashid Shahid or the Ravens deciding to pay Mark Andrews over Isaiah Likely?
56:51I think it's that one. Really? I think so because it's just like – you could argue that it just doesn't make sense to pay running backs.
56:59But I think the Ravens made a big mistake.
57:02That argument has gotten more difficult early in the season.
57:05No, I get it. I mean, he's having basically the best start to a season ever.
57:10But that's a great question, Jamie. It's a great question.
57:14Burrow or Love? I'd go Love this week. Love.
57:16A.J. Brown or T. Higgins? It's very close. I think there's a little bit more upside for T.
57:22Higgins right now. But we have no problem if somebody wants to play Brown.
57:27It's one of those situations, I guess, like Heath said, if you have the Packers receivers or maybe Jalen Coker, you can get away from these guys.
57:35But I would like to start both. Flip a coin.
57:38They're almost tied in the projections. Kamara or Pirine?
57:41Kamara. I'd still go Kamara there. Chase Brown or Abuka?
57:44May not have a choice, so I'd still go Chase Brown either way.
57:48Chase Brown. Brown or Ramondre Stevenson tonight? Brown. Brown.
57:51Pirine or Damian Pierce? We don't know. They play Monday, so that's why we haven't gotten a practice report yet.
57:58But let's say Barkley's out. If Barkley's out, I would go Pierce.
58:01Yeah. Zay Flowers or Jalen Coker? That's very close for me.
58:05I'd still probably go Zay, but it wouldn't surprise me if Coker's better.
58:09Flip a coin. Andrews or Henry? Hunter Henry? Henry.
58:12Andrews, Michael Mayer, or Tyler Higby? Oh, that's a great question because Henry and Loveland are not playing on National Titan Day.
58:19Ooh, that's true. Then they're not going to do well.
58:22I would go Higby. I'd go Higby as well.
58:25Neither is Dallas Goddard or Jake Ferguson, right? That's true.
58:28All right. That's it for this game unless the DSTs.
58:31Which DST do you like better? Ravens. Okay. The Bengals, they get a lot of sacks.
58:36Oh, I'm sorry. I think I actually would go Bengals with Huntley.
58:40If Huntley starts, it would be Bengals. The Ravens have been pretty bad this year, actually.
58:45And the Ravens have been a good matchup when they've had Huntley.
58:49So I think on paper, it probably makes more sense to go with the Bengals, but the Ravens are much more rostered than the Bengals.
58:57All right. The Giants are at Houston. Here's your weird stat of the game.
59:01The Giants, like, is this a good matchup? Well, actually, this is dumb.
59:05Because if the Giants are missing their starting cornerback and their best safety, then I think it's just so easy to start CJ Stroud.
59:13And it's probably easy to start him anyway. But there's only been one quarterback who's thrown for more than 200 yards against the Giants.
59:21They're like eighth best. What's because they're up by 30 points at halftime and they just try to run the clock out while the Giants throw 45 passes.
59:30Bro, we're in first place! Come on! Come on!
59:32Anyway, their defense has been strange. Okay. Just lay out the game for me, Heath.
59:37Who do you like in this game? I love CJ Stroud.
59:41Woody Marks we talked about at the top of the show.
59:44He's an RB2. Nico Collins is a must-start wide receiver.
59:47On the Giants, I'm starting Malik Nabors, and I'm starting Isaiah Likely.
59:51Okay. Yeah. I mean, there's not a lot of borderline calls in this game.
59:55We've talked about Pirine. Giants running backs, I think, for people that need flex.
60:00Yeah, like Pirine, Charbonnet, Kamara, all these guys. You start them over a Giants running back?
60:05Not Pirine. I'm curious what the Giants are going to do.
60:08You know, I mean, releasing Najee Harris, you would think, is a positive for all of them.
60:14Yes. Hopefully the biggest positive for Skadaboo. But after what we've seen, and you just got that ESPN report from a guy
60:21who used to cover the Giants, and Dan Graziano, is that you have maybe a situation here.
60:26I think he used to cover the Giants. Yeah.
60:29You have a situation here of, he said that they're either looking to acquire a running back or going to give Tyrone Tracy a bigger workload.
60:37Now, does that mean he's going to get more work than Skadaboo?
60:41We just don't know. So this is another one of these ambiguous backfields that you should be stashing Tracy, coming off of his best game score, two touchdowns.
60:50I have no problem if somebody wants to start Tracy over Skadaboo.
60:54I'm just hopeful that we go back to Skadaboo as the lead rusher.
60:58Now, he's been miserable the last three weeks. One of those he was benched, but under eight PPR points in the two previous games.
61:06So he's becoming a very difficult player to trust in one of the bigger busts that we have this season.
61:12So taking on a Houston run defense, that's good.
61:15I would like to avoid it both if I can.
61:18But I picked up Tracy in a bunch of leagues just to see if he's going to be the main guy.
61:25And if you want to just bank on hope, that's the guy I would probably lean more than Skadaboo at this point.
61:31I'm starting all those guys you said over them, Adam, just because I have no idea.
61:37The Giants have it. Even P. Ryan. Okay. I think P.
61:40Ryan's going to get probably eight to ten touches in a bad case scenario.
61:44And I have no idea if any of these Giants are going to get eight to ten touches.
61:50They might all get six. They've scored two rushing touchdowns on the season.
61:54And they have an extremely low implied point total in this game.
61:58And so I just like their touchdown odds are like below 10% for each of them.
62:03If one of them was a lead guy, it might be 25%.
62:07But I just if they come out and say we're going to go back to Cam Skadaboo or Tyrone Tracy's our guy,
62:14then I'll move one of those guys into the top.
62:1735, but I don't have either one of them in the top 40 right now.
62:22And if you look at the Texans right there, 22nd against quarterbacks, their 10th against running backs, their 31st against receivers and their 11th against tight ends.
62:30I don't really think any of us feel like they're that bad on defense.
62:35I feel like Trevor Lawrence carved them up last week.
62:38But my personal opinion is that he just played really well and made terrific throws.
62:43It's not like you watch some of these defenses and there's busted coverages all the time and they can't tackle and all that.
62:50And that's why they struggle. That's not what happened last week with the Texans and the Jaguars.
62:55Honestly, I give a lot of credit to Trevor Lawrence just playing a great game.
63:00I don't think JJ McCarthy is really capable of doing it.
63:04Like, and I just think the running backs are in a bad spot because of it.
63:09And the Texans have a great run defense. However, with this game, there are a lot of defensive injuries on both sides here.
63:16I get the sense that for the Texans, other than Jalen Petrie, their safety, actually both of their safety, we should mention this.
63:23Both of their safeties are hurt. Reed Blankenship is in the concussion protocol.
63:27Petrie, I forget if he left super early last game or missed last game.
63:32But Aziz Alshire is a huge one. He's on the injury report.
63:36I feel like that's more of a Wednesday maintenance thing.
63:39But this is a game where you have to keep an eye on the injuries because the Giants in the secondary and
63:46the Texans in the secondary could change things. But yeah, the Giants are easy.
63:50It's basically you're starting those guys. I'm starting them slightly nervously, but whatever.
63:54And then Woody Marks is, you know, someone we're excited about.
63:58Go ahead. I just want to say, like, even with the questions about the Texans defense and they haven't been what we
64:05expected, they're giving up 3.4 yards per carry this season.
64:08They've given up five rushing touchdowns all year. Like, the run defense is still awesome.
64:13And it's probably getting better with Domingo Ryan's back in charge.
64:16I just, I'm out on this run game. I'll tell you who I'm kind of hopeful for is Marvin Harrison Jr.
64:23in this game. He only ran 26% of the routes, so hopefully he gets more involved.
64:28You guys like CJ. You like CJ Stroud, I'm assuming.
64:31Yes. Quite a bit. Yeah, very much. So how are we feeling about Marvin Harrison Jr., Jalen Knoll, Jamie?
64:37I'd like to see it for one more week, and I know it's tough to say that because then they have their bye.
64:44But, you know, look, you're talking about Tank Dell now being added to the mix.
64:49And so Nico Collins is still a stud. Dalton Schultz, if he plays, just had six targets last week.
64:55So there's a lot of mouths to feed in this offense, and I think that's the benefit of Stroud and how he's performing.
65:02But also we're looking at, you know, is Nico still going to be the dominant alpha?
65:08He's still the alpha, but is he going to be the dominant alpha?
65:12Is Marvin Harrison going to take on more work?
65:15Is Tank Dell going to get just a few shots, or is he going to be part of the offense?
65:21And Jalen Knoll probably deserves more targets because he's been performing at a very high level the last three games.
65:27So I don't want to start Harrison, but I definitely want to stash him.
65:32Okay. Do you want to start Knoll? No, I don't want to start any of those guys aside from Nico.
65:38I just think you're looking at it as like, you know, if you have bench spots where you can afford to stash
65:45players, I still think, despite the fact that Knoll's played well, Harrison has the highest ceiling.
65:50I'm sure most people would agree with that. And then Tank Dell is somebody that has had huge success here.
65:56You know, it's going to suck. This is the thing that happens with players that come off IR spots.
66:02You've been stashing these guys, and then you have no way to play them, so you're probably going to end up dropping them.
66:10You may regret it, but, you know, I can't imagine Tank Dell has a huge role.
66:15At least in his first game. To give you an idea of how much they like CJ Stroud, he's ahead of Dak Prescott.
66:22Six, seven, eight in the rankings are Stroud, Stafford, and Bryce Young in some order.
66:27For Jamie, it's Stroud, Young, Stafford. For Heath, it's Stafford, Young, Stroud.
66:31But he's a top eight quarterback for Jamie and Heath.
66:34For Dave, he's third. Questions on this game from the chat.
66:37Woody Marks or J.K. Dobbins? Marks. Yep. This is all assuming David Montgomery doesn't play.
66:42If he practices tomorrow, we'll update you on Woody Marks' ranking.
66:45Chase Brown, Ashton Gentry, or Woody Marks? Start two.
66:48Sit Marks. Yeah. Kamara or Tracy? I still go Kamara, but it's close.
66:52Yep. Likely or Laporta? Likely. Likely. Woody Marks, Jermondre Stevenson, or Aaron Jones?
66:57Just need one? Yeah. I'd go Marks. I'd go Woody.
67:00Noel or Tucker? Tucker. Tucker. Oh, I got a great.
67:03You sure about that? You sure about those five minutes?
67:06I got a great Tucker stat for you when we get to that game.
67:10Now, I would also go Trey Tucker, but that's a hard case to make.
67:15Like, he's had, every time he's had an 80-yard game in his career, he's followed it up with a stinker, basically.
67:22Except one time when he caught a touchdown. And then you got the Rams who have allowed more than 50 yards to one wide receiver.
67:29But Pittsburgh's at New Orleans. By the way, I got some news.
67:33Yes, Saquon Barkley's expected to play. Yeah. Thank you.
67:36Sorry. Thank you for reminding me. Get Damian Pierce out of your lineups.
67:40Yep. Yeah. All right, Pittsburgh at New Orleans. I already told you it's National Tight Ends Day.
67:46This game is in France. France. We come from France.
67:49Coenheads. Yeah. High five. Yeah, where's Jalen Warren, Heath, for you this week?
67:53He's a, I mean, the state of the running back position, he's a must-start running back borderline top 12.
67:59Don't even think about it. Okay. Where's Aaron Rodgers for you?
68:02He is a, I think he's currently QB 12.
68:05Right on that borderline, just ahead of Tyler Shuck.
68:08Several spots ahead of Patrick Mahomes. And I think Jamie has Rodgers right around 12th as well.
68:14You both have him 12th. Dave has him 9th.
68:16He has reverted back to this short area crap.
68:194.6 and 4.0 yards. That could change this week.
68:22I hope so. Saints have these, Saints have the second lowest pressure rate amongst defenses.
68:27So he should not be as concerned about getting hit.
68:30Okay. I don't really see like this being that good of a matchup.
68:34You know, like only Lamar Jackson's done really well.
68:37No, that's not true. Kirk Cousins did. The Giants quarterbacks threw 47 times and cobbled together a good game.
68:43You guys are pretty confident in him. Top 12 guy.
68:46Bernard or Metcalf? Who do you like better? Still DK, but it's getting close.
68:51Yep. Yeah. Bernard, they're both basically must starts. Jamie talked about that at the top of the show.
68:56So 21 targets in two games for Bernard since Roman Wilson's finger injury.
69:00Metcalf has been 12 something PPR points or more in three of his last four games.
69:05Like they're just getting the job done. Saints allow the sixth most fantasy points to tight ends.
69:11That might be one of the reasons why Heath likes Pat Friermuth.
69:15Jamie's not quite as high on Pat Friermuth. Jamie has him 13th, 11th, 11th.
69:19And Heath has him 8th. Dave does not like Friermuth.
69:22Dave has him 22nd. But Friermuth, low end starter.
69:25You're like Friermuth or Kelsey? He's getting closer. Still Kelsey, but it's close.
69:29Yep. I hope you guys are right. This guy's had more than five targets once this year.
69:35Not sure. Well, I mean, he's right there with Hunter Henry, who I think has not had more than five targets in a game this year.
69:43It's true. Play the song. Come on. What? The happy birthday song?
69:47Yeah. Oh, I was also... You know what song I...
69:50I think you should save it for Sunday night after he's scored.
69:54Or maybe Sunday during the morning show while he's playing.
69:57You know what I can... You know what song I can play for this game?
70:02Let's see. Let's see. Why'd you do it with like a Spanish accent?
70:06Because, you know, I don't know. I realized at first I was doing it and then I changed.
70:11That means it's not the game of the week.
70:14No. So your thing was the Holy Sox on this show, not the singing.
70:19We don't need the singing when we've got the Holy Sox.
70:22Okay. You've already done your thing. I don't know why I didn't do French accent.
70:27I got into it eventually there. That was tough.
70:30On the Saints side of the ball, Tyler Shuck is kind of on the borderline here.
70:35He's only got 55 pass attempts in his last two games combined.
70:39And we're seeing like if he doesn't throw the ball a ton, he could struggle as a passer.
70:44And the Steelers are fourth best against quarterbacks, but they haven't faced a very tough schedule.
70:49So we'll keep that in mind. I don't know what...
70:53He hasn't played as well as he did last year.
70:56He's averaging fewer yards per pass attempt than Aaron Rodgers is.
70:59Like maybe he gets a bunch of volume because they're playing from behind, but I don't really want to start him.
71:06I sounded like a minion. Listen, I'm struggling with this game and I'll just tell you how I feel.
71:12I'm not feeling great about this game in terms of points.
71:15I feel like Olave, obviously, and Jalen Warren are the only two guys that I am comfortably putting in my...
71:22No, no, no. I agree about the Steelers receivers.
71:25I'm sorry. But Vele, Jawan Johnson, Rodgers and Shuck, I'm just not that confident.
71:29Are you guys ranking Rodgers and Shuck as starters or borderline starters because you like them or because it's not that great of a week?
71:37Rodgers, yes. No, Rodgers, I'm confident to say the 12th quarterback or 10th, 11th, 12th quarterback is...
71:42I think that's the spot for a reason or in that spot for a reason.
71:47So the last month has been extremely productive for him.
71:50Is he playing at the level of a must-start quarterback?
71:53No, but he's getting the job done. And like you said, he got eight points in overtime.
71:59Okay, he still got to those eight points. And this is a defense that has given up a lot of big games to quarterbacks recently.
72:07So I'm going to start him certainly as a buyer replacement if I have to pivot from Josh Allen or Trevor Lawrence or Jaden Daniels.
72:15I'm happy about that. I think in the case of Shuck, look, he's been...
72:19He got off to a great start, but not to say that this is the reason why, but he breaks his hand
72:26against Atlanta, his left hand against Atlanta. He stinks against Minnesota, but we probably would have been concerned about his performance against Minnesota, but it was really bad.
72:35And then you get lucky with the four total touchdowns against the Giants where he hadn't been running very much.
72:41Then he gives you 32 yards in the score on the ground.
72:45So I think just looking at it, the Steelers defense is clearly very good.
72:49I would try to get away from Shuck. In the case of Friermuth, like you say he hasn't been getting a lot of targets.
72:57I get it. He was, you know, 10 or 11 PPR points in two of his last three games.
73:03We were very excited about him last week. As Heath alluded to in the start of the show, pops him on the injury report.
73:11And then you just get these hyper-targeted games for the other two guys.
73:15I mean, I guess it's going to be a little bit more equal distribution or close to it would be the hope for Friermuth.
73:22So is he a slam dunk? No, but... Who do you like better, Juwan Johnson or Friermuth?
73:28Friermuth. Muth. Okay. All right. Here's some questions from the chat.
73:31Kyler Murray or Aaron Rodgers? I'd go Murray. I'd go Rodgers.
73:35Friermuth or Roshon Johnson in PPR? I'd go Friermuth.
73:38I don't think about tight ends versus running backs very often.
73:41I would also go Friermuth. Shaka Rodgers? Rodgers. Jeremy Bernard or Jalen Waddell?
73:45Standard scoring. Jeremy. Jeremy. Bernard, Coker, Jamo, or Braylon Allen?
73:48You could only pick one. My goodness. Start of the week?
73:52Oh, PPR? I'd probably go Coker. Juwan Johnson or Michael Mayer?
73:55It's all points. Jamie, you're Mike. Talk. Hey, Jamie.
73:58What's up? Hey. Oh, there you are. Juwan Johnson or Michael Mayer?
74:02I would go Juwan Johnson. Agreed. Jared Goff or Tyler Shuck?
74:05We're going Goff. Colson Loveland or Juwan Johnson? Loveland for me.
74:09Juwan for me. Friermuth or Kelsey? Kelsey. We just said that right now it's close, but still Kelsey.
74:15Yep. Bernard or Jamison Williams? Bernard. Like your socks, Jeremy.
74:18All right. That's... You could have gone with J-Mo.
74:21I would caution against the Steelers' DST. First of all, the Steelers have had such an easy schedule.
74:26They faced Cooper Rush and Jalen Daniels and Cleveland and...
74:30I don't even remember. Drake May when he was terrible.
74:33And they've also... And you hate this game. I do hate this game.
74:37I do. Is that why you made it Spanish instead of French?
74:41It was a sign of disrespect. All right, guys.
74:44We got three games left. Let's go to Miami at the Jets.
74:47Stat of the game, every DST has been good against the Dolphins, including the Raiders and the Bengals.
74:53So, don't necessarily shy away from the Jets' DST.
74:56They... Let's see how they've done this year. They're top 12 in the rankings.
75:00They had eight sacks against Cleveland. They were terrible at Detroit, at Chicago, and at New England.
75:06Other than that, they were good. So, Dolphins allowed the fourth most fantasy points at DSTs.
75:11Take a look at the Jets. Now, Geno Smith.
75:14Or Patrick... Oh, you guys said Mahomes, I think, over Geno, right?
75:17We said Geno. You said Geno. Damn it. All right.
75:21Come on. Geno Smith, not bad this week. The running backs, we already talked about them earlier in the show.
75:27How about Malik Washington or Keenan Allen? Is Caleb Douglas back?
75:30I think so. He was limited yesterday. We're not ranking him yet.
75:34If he's back, then it'd be very close. If he's not, then it's easily Washington for me.
75:40It's close either way for me. I think the floor is safer for Washington.
75:44The ceiling is higher for Keenan Allen, even against Minnesota.
75:47How about Omar Cooper? How are we feeling about him with Adonai Mitchell limited?
75:52That will change the rankings of Cooper a little bit, but I just think when you have a first-round talent that just
75:59showed you what he showed you, you don't take him off the field or take him out of situations where you can
76:06try and give him chances to succeed. He looked amazing.
76:09I don't think this Dolphins defense, despite the fact that they've been statistically good against opposing receivers, is going to be the reason why Omar Cooper fails.
76:17I wanted to add Cooper, but not to start Cooper.
76:20I do think this is probably a run-heavy game for the Jets, which is why Braylon Allen is the start of the week.
76:28I don't think Garrett Wilson has two bad games in a row, so I don't really want to start Cooper.
76:34So you guys would start Malik Washington or Omar Cooper?
76:37It's a ceiling floor play. If you want the higher ceiling, it's clearly Cooper.
76:42If you want the safer floor, it's Washington. Washington's got to score a touchdown.
76:46He's been 11 to 12 PPR points three games in a row.
76:50The first two games of the season when Douglas played, played the entire first game and left in the second game, were Washington's two worst games this year.
76:59I'd go Washington. I think people need to start, need to drop Kenyon Sadiq.
77:03He's the number two tight end on this team, unfortunately.
77:06Mason Taylor plays a lot more than him. Sadiq is rostered as of yesterday in 48% of leagues.
77:12I think there's a better use of that roster spot.
77:15You guys feel free to disagree. I would guess a good portion of that is probably Keeper leagues or Dynasty leagues.
77:22I think they're afraid to drop them because you'll say they have an illegal lineup.
77:27That's very good, very good. All right. So Braylon Allen is the top 12 guy.
77:31Ollie Gordon in the rankings is. Let's take a look.
77:35An RB2. We talked about him in the question for each game.
77:3816th, 19th, 17th for Jamie Dave Heath. Let's go to the questions.
77:42The regular Thursday end of the show. Love when he does a lot of the clock.
77:47Malik Washington or Samaj P. Ryan? Washington. Washington. Gino Smith or Jacoby Brissett?
77:51Gino. Gino. Jets DST or Browns DST? Browns. Browns.
77:54Browns. Gino or Penix? I have Penix. I'd go Gino.
77:57Gino, JJ McCarthy or Baker Mayfield if he plays?
78:00Gino. Gino. Gino. Ollie Gordon over J.K. Dobbins. Yep.
78:03Sit one in non-PPR. Neighbors, Flowers, Watson, Ollie Gordon.
78:06The safe answer is probably sit Ollie Gordon, but he scored a touchdown in three straight games, so that matters in non-PPR.
78:13I would actually probably sit Flowers. I'd sit Ollie.
78:16Allen or Chase Brown? Braylon Allen or Chase Brown?
78:19Allen if Hall is out. Yep. Next game is the Raiders and the Rams.
78:23Okay, Jamie, let's make this fast here. Who are we starting?
78:27Who are we sitting? We are starting Puka Nakua.
78:29We are starting Matthew Stafford. We are starting Kyron Williams.
78:33We are starting Brock Bowers. We are starting Ashton Gentry.
78:36You might be starting Tyler Higbee. You might be starting Michael Mayer.
78:40You might be starting Kirk Cousins. You might be starting Blake Whorl.
78:43Let's talk about Matthew Stafford. He is a start, but he's really not playing that well.
78:48Now, he had Puka Nakua wide open for a 65-yard touchdown on busted coverage, got hit just as he was throwing, and overthrew the ball.
78:56That makes his day and Puka's day so much better.
78:59But without Devontae Adams last year, he played three games without Devontae Adams.
79:04He scored more than 34 fantasy points in two of them, and one of them was at Seattle that Thursday night crazy game.
79:11So anyway, he's been fine in the past, but struggling a bit.
79:15So you start CJ Stroud over him, right? I would, yes.
79:18I have Stafford one spot higher. One spot higher.
79:21Okay. Would you start Dak Prescott Monday night or Stafford at the Raiders?
79:25I would start Dak. Stafford for me. Stafford or Caleb Williams tonight?
79:29Stafford. Stafford. Stafford or Drake May? May. Yep. You guys are still confident in Matthew Stafford?
79:34I was looking, because I have a league with Jaden Daniels.
79:38It's our draft-a-thon league. So somebody dropped Jaden Daniels when he initially got hurt, and I picked him up.
79:44And I have Lamar Jackson, so I'm stuck this week.
79:47Yeah. And so I was looking at, like, can I trade one of the two?
79:51Good luck. To get something in return. And you were the first team I looked at, Adam.
79:57And I was thinking about this since you brought Stafford.
80:00Would you, because you can't make the trade this week.
80:03Like, you just lost Jalen Hurts. You had Stafford and Hurts in that league.
80:08And so I was like, oh, can I trade him Lamar?
80:11Would he trade me Stafford for Lamar and just pick up another quarterback?
80:15Because I know you like Lamar so much. I know you wouldn't do the trade because it would just become a headache for you.
80:23But that was just... Oh, I know. That's interesting.
80:26I'd have to go find one this week, but that's interesting.
80:29Blake Corum or Kanata Mumfield? Who's a better flyer?
80:32After Kyron's comments last week, I wonder how Sean McVay is going to approach it.
80:37And there was a report yesterday. I don't know who it was from.
80:41It was a Ram source or a national source, so I apologize.
80:45But McVay wants to get a little bit more balance in the offense.
80:49And that kind of speaks to where you're at, I think, with Stafford, of just him throwing too much and the offense
80:56not having the type of rhythm I'm sure that they want to have.
81:00Does Kyron get a little bit more work? And I know it's hard to say because you're getting a lot of work.
81:07Oh, does Kyron? I thought you were going the other way.
81:10No, no. I mean, look, I obviously could. You know, if you hear the whole...
81:15This is one of those things like when you take just the portion of what Kyron said versus the whole answer, you
81:22know, where he said, like, he was asked why was there not a rhythm?
81:26And he said, because I wasn't out there. Or energy.
81:30And he said, because I wasn't out there. But you listen to the whole answer.
81:34He didn't really say anything inappropriate. I shouldn't say anything inappropriate.
81:38I think it was like a, you know, we're screwing up because it's not me being out there, whatever.
81:44I wouldn't be surprised if Mumfield has a better game.
81:47But Coram's certainly safer. All right. Would you start...
81:50You know, I'm just going to read some chat questions.
81:53We'll come back to some of the guys here.
81:56But Higby or Loveland? Loveland. It'd be Higby for me.
81:59Michael Mayer or Mark Andrews? Mayer. Yep. Stafford or Purdy?
82:02Purdy. Purdy. Blake Coram or Quinchon Judkins if he plays?
82:05Judkins. Yep. Blake Coram or Zach Charbonnet? Coram. I'd go Charbonnet.
82:09Cousins or Shuck or Murray. Sorry. Pick two. Cousins, Shuck, Murray.
82:12Sidney Shuck. Cousins makes me nervous. I would sit Murray.
82:16Now the Rams are beat up defensively. I think that's part of it.
82:20Very beat up defensively. Yeah. But they are second best, second fewest yards per attempt allowed in the NFL.
82:26McDuffie was no practice or limited. No practice. And they lost two defensive linemen last week.
82:31Aaron Donald's not being Aaron Donald right now. He has very few pressures in sacks.
82:36He's just not himself. Maybe it's just... Do the Rams make the playoffs?
82:40I don't know. I think no. I would guess they'll be the last wild card.
82:44I think they're going to have three NFC West teams in the playoffs.
82:49So you're going to get one from the NFC East.
82:52One from the South. Do you get four from the North though?
82:56The North is better than the West. Yeah. Yeah, arguably.
82:59That's the tricky part. All right. Cousins is top 13 in the rankings.
83:03Cousins or Prescott? Dak. Yep. And I don't think we have this one specifically.
83:07Cousins or Kyler? I would go Kyler. I made that decision in a few leagues.
83:12I dropped Cousins for Kyler. The schedule is so good coming up.
83:16And this week is close enough that I would just lean Kyler.
83:20Yeah. Gentie is right there with Braylon Allen right around 12th.
83:23That's an interesting player because he did not play a lot in the second half.
83:28And they continue to talk up Mike Washington quite a bit.
83:31And I go back to our colleague, Rand Carthon, who, former GM, evaluates the draft, said before the season, that Washington is a better fit for this offense.
83:40Not better player, better fit for this offense than Gentie.
83:43And then you had the game two games ago where they didn't give him any touches.
83:48And then they gave him, and he had more rushing yards than Gentie.
83:53Gentie's just not running the ball very well. I just think their current roles, this is probably a better game for Gentie than it is for Mike Washington.
84:01Oh, totally. This is, by no means is this play Washington over Gentie or sit Gentie because, yeah, this is a throw it game.
84:09This is a, you know, potentially chasing points. And Gentie's been very successful in the passing game.
84:14I just think that we may have a Gentie problem moving forward to the degree of, we did not see him share touches at all last year.
84:23We haven't really seen it to a degree where it's a problem yet, but it might be.
84:28And he's played fewer than 60% of the snaps, two straight games.
84:32And that did not happen in the first four weeks.
84:35The Rams, by the way, have allowed the fourth most receiving yards per game.
84:40The running backs, a running back has at least four catches in four of six games.
84:45So that's where Gentie will make his hay. Trey Tucker is basically 30th or, you know, around there for Jamie and Heath.
84:52He's lower for Dave. Previous four times, he had 80 or more yards.
84:56He followed that up with 41, 58, 13, and 44 yards.
84:59That's throughout his career. He's just, he does not stack games.
85:03Doesn't mean he can't, but he hasn't. It's just when he's coming off a game against the worst secondary, worst defense, at
85:10least at the time, against opposing receivers. And now, even if McDuffie doesn't play, like, there's four, there's enough of a sample
85:17size of what Trey Tucker has done this year, aside from his career.
85:21Because if you just want to say Kubiak's offense with Kirk Cousins, like, four of the six games he's been under eight or under nine PPR points.
85:29Okay. And then Michael Mayer. Two of those games has put him in the top 20, though.
85:35Michael Mayer's 15th for Jamie and Heath. He is 12th for Dave.
85:39We've talked a lot about him so far. Rams DST has actually been really bad this year.
85:44So, I mean, except against the Giants, basically. So, I don't know.
85:48You guys have them ranked fairly high, but they just haven't been a reliable DST.
85:53You both have them top eight. Dave has them 23rd.
85:56Yeah, I have to move them down. All right.
85:59There's just not good. There's not good defenses this week.
86:02I think I'd start the Jets over them. Okay.
86:05And I'd start the Bengals. Is that crazy? No, not with Huntley.
86:08Yeah, if Huntley's playing, I'd start the Bengals over them.
86:12Cleveland at Tennessee. Tennessee's allowed 60 or more yards to seven wide receivers.
86:1670 or more yards to five wide receivers. So, they've been a pretty good matchup.
86:20And they have actually allowed the second most completions of 20 or more air yards.
86:25So, looking at deep ball completions, the Titans are giving up a lot of them.
86:30And that's really important for Denzel Boston. However, Deshaun Watson has failed to throw for 170 yards in three of his last four games, I believe.
86:38Or maybe just two of his last three games.
86:41I might be a little off there. But, no, it's three of his last four.
86:46Anyway, a starter sit, Denzel Boston, Casey Concepcion, Heath.
86:49Boston is a boom-bust number three wide receiver. Concepcion is a desperation flex.
86:53If Quinchon Judkins plays, who's the best running back in this game?
86:57Judkins. It's probably Judkins. Pollard's right behind him. The only way I would start Pollard over him, and Spears just continues to mispractice if Spears misses a game.
87:05The two best games that Pollard has had so far this season is when he's had two or more catches.
87:12In every game where he has not been involved as a pass catcher, he's been miserable.
87:17But he is starting to play to absolutely dominate the snaps and the carries.
87:21I mean, I think he played more snaps last week than he had in any point of the last two seasons, this
87:28year and last year, when Tyje Spears was healthy.
87:31So, you're getting like 17 carries somewhat regularly, 16, 17 carries in three of his last four games.
87:37Cleveland, they're 4.6 yards per carry to running backs.
87:40You know, it's a good matchup for Pollard. You know, so we'd start Pollard over like the Corums and the Pirines and
87:47the Giants guys and all that, right? That's easy.
87:50Yep. Yep. Yeah. Okay. And then Judkins, you know, Judkins more involved in the passing game.
87:55But again, only one game so far for Judkins with double-digit PPR fantasy points.
87:59Try to get away from Harold Fenn and Junior.
88:02We just don't know what it's going to look like with Samson back.
88:06You guys like Carnell Tate or Jeremy Bernard? Tate.
88:09Tate. Carnell Tate or DK Metcalf? Metcalf. Metcalf. Wondale Robinson or Casey Concepcion?
88:13Wondale. Wondale. Wondale or Boston? Boston. I've got Wondale in full PPR.
88:17Boston or Ramondre Stevenson tonight? Ramondre. Yep. Boston or Roshan Johnson tonight?
88:21Boston. I've got Roshan. Ankle socks or like the ones that come up like, you know, three inches higher than that?
88:27Depends on what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. It's only ankle.
88:30The only socks I'll ever wear basically are ankle socks or, you know, like.
88:35Again, some longer socks might help you stay warm.
88:38I have wool socks for that. Those are really good.
88:41Carnell Tate or Michael Wilson from the chat? Tate.
88:44Yep. Judkins or Ramondre? Ramondre. I'd go Judkins. Pollard or Ramondre?
88:47Yeah, you have to go Ramondre because we'll see.
88:50If he's a full practice today, I'd go Judkins.
88:53What about Pollard or Ramondre then? Ramondre. Probably Ramondre.
88:56Pollard or Jacobs PPR? Pollard. I would go Jacobs.
88:59Concepcion, Jacoby Lane or Kendry Miller, PPR. Oh boy.
89:01Probably Miller. Yep. I mean, Concepcion has six or more targets in three straight healthy games.
89:07So you get a little bit of a floor there, I think, from Concepcion.
89:11What's the floor been in those three games? Not great.
89:14Let's see. Concepcion. Concepcion. Last three games. Looks like 2.9 is his floor.
89:182.9, 11.4, and 7.9. 2.9 is not his floor.
89:21His floor is 7.9. Adam, I just want you to know we had a hole in your shirt yesterday.
89:27I asked you to show us on the air.
89:30You had a hole in your socks. I asked you to show us on the air.
89:35I'm going to guess just knowing you, you have holes in your underwear.
89:39I'm not going to ask you to show us that on the air.
89:43People are asking about my sleeves. My sleeves are fine with this one here.
89:48The collar is a little sketchy, but fine. All right.
89:51Well, thanks for watching and listening to Fantasy Football today.
89:54We will talk to you tomorrow for the NFC home games and a recap of hopefully an exciting Thursday night.
90:00See ya.