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2:30What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't.
2:33It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races!
2:37And he stays on his feet! That's just gonna go the distance!
2:41Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:44Welcome to the show. Happy Hump Day! It is Wednesday, October 21st.
2:48We're getting so close to Halloween. Everyone's super excited.
2:51I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings. Jamie Eisenberg will be joining us shortly.
2:55We've got a lot of trade talk today. Buy low, sell high.
2:59Of course, we're gonna preview the Thursday night game, Chicago and New England, which we've already declared the game of the week.
3:06But Dave won't be here today, so we won't...
3:09Someone might have to help me out with the...
3:11But a lot of stats to throw at you right now.
3:15I hope you're all ready for a stat attack and target per route run rates and ADOTs and all these things.
3:22And you know who leads all players in route participation rate?
3:25He's basically run every single route this year. B.K.
3:28Metcalf. Yeah. Yeah. But he's really bad in yards per route run, which isn't good.
3:33He's been super inefficient. And do you know who's second in route participation rate?
3:38Amongst wide receivers? Or tight ends. But... Okay. Who's...
3:40So... He's got the same amount of initials as D.K.
3:44Metcalf in both the first name and the last name.
3:47And he's in the same division as D.K. Metcalf.
3:50The same amount of initials? Two initials and two initials in the first name and last name.
3:55D.K. Metcalf. Metcalf. Okay. That Metcalf is not two initials.
3:59I mean, syllables. Syllables. Jeez. For God's sake. For God's sake.
4:02He's got two initials in his name. He threw me off.
4:06That calf does. So it's two syllables. He's in the AFC North.
4:10He's got a D. First name starts with a D.
4:13Okay. Denzel Boston. So it's got to be... You didn't hear me?
4:17I have no idea. Denzel Boston. Denzel Boston. Okay.
4:20All right. Before we get into the bylaws and so highs, let's just...
4:24For those of you who are running fab tonight, I looked at eight random FFT open leagues.
4:29Here's what Omar Cooper Jr. went for. $11 out of a $100 original budget.
4:34$11, $35, $18, $3, $32, $13, and $12. I looked at one of the leagues where he had a $32 bid and
4:41the second bid was like $12 or something. So I think generally speaking, it was around the $11, $12 range for Omar
4:48Cooper, but some people are going to go nuts.
4:51If you saw Omar Cooper and Jordan Tyson on the waiver wire, which one would you add?
4:56Yeah. This was a great topic on yesterday's show.
4:59I think we all agreed Jordan Tyson has the most rest of season upside of anyone.
5:04So it really just mattered who you needed now because Tyson's probably not playing this week and they have a buy next week.
5:12So hopefully it's Tyson because hopefully I don't need the receiver.
5:15Demario Douglas was $12, $4, $6, and he was rostered in a lot of the FFT open leagues.
5:21I saw him for like $8, $10, and some of the other ones.
5:25Tyrone Tracy Jr., in the eight leagues I saw him, I looked at, he didn't get picked up in one of them.
5:32And in the other seven, he went for anywhere from $5 to $20.
5:37But usually it was in the five to eight range.
5:40There was a $12 bid and there was a $20 bid on Tyrone Tracy Jr.
5:45There was a $15 bid on Jamie Eisenberg and we got him.
5:48Hey, he's here. What's up? Good morning. And the second highest bid was only $1.
5:53So we were the only ones who wanted Jamie Eisenberg.
5:57Good morning, Jamie. Well, I thought you were going to say it was a $50 bid.
6:02Oh, his birthday has been a two-day, three-day celebration now.
6:05I think we're ready to move on. So I said to Heath before the show, I like the show today.
6:11We're going to talk about a lot of guys, but it's missing something.
6:16It's missing – 100% not what you said to me before the show.
6:20What did I say? I'm not going to say it.
6:23Okay. I don't like the show today. It's missing something.
6:26It's missing an element of fun. And I think it's very clear our audience is much more fun than we are.
6:33So I'm going to be looking for fun comments today, whatever it is.
6:37You know, like you're just thinking things off the top of your head.
6:41For example, Pukinuku is going to be the number one player in fantasy football.
6:46Number two behind Jameer Gibbs while Devontae Adams is out.
6:49Anything. Anything that comes to mind. Just throw it at us.
6:53We're going to star the good ones here in the chat, and we'll read them.
6:57All right. News and notes. Terrence Ferguson is not going to come off IR when he's first eligible.
7:03That's fun. Yeah. I saw that. I lowered my bids a little bit for Terrence Ferguson.
7:08Yeah. Hey, great news, everyone. He's not going to be ready when he's first eligible.
7:13He has to miss at least one more game, but won't be back immediately after that.
7:18The Rams are signing kicker Brandon McManus. Terry McLaurin out for the season.
7:23Eagles signed running back Elijah Mitchell. A.J. Brown was limited, but we expect him to play Thursday.
7:28Patriots are likely going to be without at least two of those starting offensive linemen who left with injuries.
7:34They could get cornerback Carlton Davis back. Kyle Monongai mispracticed for those of you who added Roshon Johnson.
7:40See if Monongai gets in a practice today. Alec Pierce is not going to practice this week.
7:45Green Bay's offensive coordinator said that Josh Jacobs looks great, so I would say he's trending in the right direction, and the Giants released Najee Harris.
7:54Let's do some buy low and sell high. All right, Heath, who are we buying low on?
7:59I would like to buy low on Bucky Irving.
8:02He has been fantastic as a rusher. I think he has the second highest avoid rate and yards after contact per rush
8:09behind like maybe third behind Kenneth Walker and B.
8:12John Robinson. The targets have completely disappeared with Jalen Daniels.
8:15I think as soon as Baker comes back, they start throwing to Bucky again.
8:20He's been pretty bad for fantasy the last couple of weeks, but I still think he's going to be a borderline top
8:2712 running back in the second half of the season and has a pretty great schedule.
8:32Cool. And we have a question about Bejal Tootin.
8:35Is he a buy low? And I think these guys are super similar.
8:39What do you think about Bucky versus Tootin? Who would you rather?
8:43I think Bucky is Tootin with six target upside when Baker's back.
8:47So I'd rather have Bucky. Jamie, how about you?
8:50Bucky or Tootin? Um, it's a great question. I think I'd probably lean Bucky if I know that Baker's coming back soon.
8:57Yeah, seems optimistic. It doesn't seem like he's going to be back this week, but it seems like not too long.
9:04Maybe next week for Baker. Chancey plays this week.
9:07It is funny that Bucky's best game, though, came without Baker.
9:10Yeah. I think, um, you know, Jacob, if you were here, would make the argument that Tootin's in a better offensive environment than Bucky.
9:18I think that's true. Nobody would disagree with it.
9:21And I, one thing I noticed about Tootin is that his route participation rate has gone up three straight weeks.
9:27You know, that could easily go back down next week, right?
9:31It's not set in stone, but the Jaguars. Okay.
9:34This is all stemming from a question we got from TBJN.
9:37Should I trade Jalen Coker for Bejal Tootin? What do you think about that?
9:42I think it's a fair trade if somebody needs a running back versus a receiver.
9:47Yep. There's more upset, I think, for Coker, but we know finding running backs and trading for running backs is difficult, so you probably have to overpay.
9:55And I think Tootin's in a good spot. It's funny because, you know, Jacob, obviously, and he said we agree, like the
10:02offensive environment for the Jaguars is better. It doesn't feel like they have an identity of who they are.
10:09The Jaguars? Yeah. Because, I mean, you think about all the moving parts that have gone on with the team this season.
10:16You know, Brian Thomas has been phased out. Now we got Travis Hunter playing.
10:20There was a, there's a thing still in the, in the stretch of Bretton Strange getting more involved.
10:26Jacoby Myers has been up and down all over the place this season.
10:30Obviously, Parker Washington's been sort of a mainstay. You mentioned that the route participation has changed a little bit for Basial Tootin.
10:37They still use LaQuinn Allen too much for, for my take, like it, my taste.
10:42It's just like, there's a lot of confusion, I guess, uncertainty to some degree with the Jaguars.
10:48And it is like, I think we should be careful not to overstate, like it's a big difference between the two teams.
10:55But Jacksonville hasn't really quite been an elite offense.
10:58And Tampa hasn't quite really been, they're not bottom five in yards or points.
11:02So it's kind of like a top third offense against a bottom third offense.
11:07It's also, I brought this up yesterday, Heath, on Tuesday's show, that Baker has not looked good.
11:12But he also has not looked good against Minnesota and Cleveland in two of the first three games.
11:18You know, so we don't, I think, know what this Tampa Bay offense is going to look like when they're playing a
11:25little bit more of a lighter schedule. And so, you know, Baker's missed some good opponents in the stretch that Jalen Daniels has played.
11:33So hopefully he's healthy and we can see what the best of, what Zach Robinson's maybe vision of this team looks like.
11:40I didn't mean to get this into a, a Bejal Tootin conversation, but I think he's a really interesting player, especially because he's on a buy.
11:48So if you're looking at a Jalen Tootin manager, a Bejal Tootin manager, Bejal Tootin manager, um, who's two and four and
11:55his, one of his top running backs is on a buy.
11:59This is who you target, right? You go after Tootin if you want him here because that manager's desperate for a win.
12:06So I want to talk about the Jaguars offense in general.
12:10You talk about Baker Mayfield having faced a tough schedule.
12:13The Jaguars, they're four and two and they faced a bad schedule for their offense for two reasons.
12:19One, they faced Cleveland, Denver, New England, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, and Houston.
12:22They faced a lot of good defenses, but they've also faced a lot of bad offenses.
12:27So one of those things is about to change.
12:30The Jaguars are going to face the Colts, the Titans twice, and the Giants in their next four, in their next five games.
12:38Also with Baltimore in there. First place Giants, say it right.
12:41Yeah, first place Giants. So they're facing some bad defenses.
12:44Not, even if they're not bad, not necessarily not good defenses, but they're also facing some questionable offenses here with the Colts and the Titans twice.
12:53So I don't know if they're going to have to throw that much.
12:57They're very slow paced. They, um, they're 23rd in plays per game, which isn't that bad, but they're 31st in pace.
13:04They're 23rd in pass rate. My whole point is that they've played a really tough schedule and things could get a lot
13:11better for them in terms of efficiency. And they're eighth in points per game, which is really good.
13:17Um, but Tootin could have a much, he's only averaging 4.1 yards per carry, but I think he could do much better than that.
13:24Uh, however, I don't know how much they're going to have to throw from a Lawrence perspective facing these crappy offenses, but
13:31then it gets, you know, then you've got Chicago and Pittsburgh and Houston and Dallas and Washington.
13:37I think it's a much better schedule. Just put a blanket statement on it over the last 11 games or 10 games
13:44in fantasy than it was over the first six games for the Jaguars.
13:48So just something to note here. I think it just didn't, and not to just limit it to Basil Tootin, like Parker
13:55Washington has slowed down a little bit. He's another buy low target.
13:59If you're looking at his fantasy manager that needs help during the bi-week.
14:03Yeah. You don't know what to expect from Jacoby Myers, but finally, he just wasn't getting targeted like he normally does.
14:10And he finally did in week six. He also is leading the team with six end zone targets.
14:16And I think he only has two catches on those end zone targets.
14:20Uh, and so six, I think, uh, no one is more than nine end zone targets.
14:25So six end zone targets for Jacoby Myers is pretty impressive.
14:29I talked about him couple, uh, last week as a guy to get is a throw in, in a trade.
14:35I don't know if you can do that anymore, but, uh, you know, he could be, he could have a decent rest of season.
14:43All right. That was the Jaguars. Let's go to Jamie's buy low.
14:47Uh, similar situation. DJ more on a buy, uh, clearly has been struggling.
14:51And I think, you know, when we talk about targeting injured players, right?
14:55Um, you get a little bit more concerned, at least I do when it's lower leg injuries, obviously spraining, high ankle sprains, hamstring injuries, things like that.
15:04You should still be aggressive in trying to get those types of players.
15:08If you think that they're going to be healthy and have strong finishes and shoulder injuries are clearly nothing to overlook, but
15:15he's been dealing with a shoulder injury. I'm sure part of it has been managing it, knowing that they're going to be
15:22in playoff contention at the end of the season, not to try and rush DJ more back.
15:28Clearly they would like to have him on the field, but you get the point.
15:33Um, coming off the buy, he should be healthy.
15:35And look, Keon Coleman has played very well. He might still have a role, a significant role moving forward.
15:42It feels though, as if Keon Coleman has just kind of been a replacement for DJ more because when both guys have
15:49been healthy, we haven't seen this from, from Coleman.
15:52I think there's still a huge ceiling for more moving forward.
15:55Hopefully again, he'll be healthy. If you can get him from the, the, the fantasy manager that might be struggling and doesn't,
16:02and needs help during the, the bi-week or has been missing more.
16:06Uh, he's an easy one to go get for me.
16:09Um, so DJ more, the good thing on DJ more is that he is among the leaders in target per route run rate.
16:17Yeah, he's ninth. His target per route run rate is in between Malik neighbors and Keenan Allen, who's obviously crazy high Jalen Coker, Drake London.
16:25It's very high. Um, but let me just bring this up.
16:28Jamie with DJ more. He's got to buy this week.
16:32It's Baltimore. That's fine. His remaining schedule includes games at Minnesota in week nine.
16:36Um, Miami is third best against receivers because only two, but only two receivers have more than six targets against them.
16:43They're so bad. They get run on all the time.
16:46Um, the chiefs are number one against receivers at new England with Christian Gonzalez, presumably, uh, at Denver in week 16.
16:53Just throwing it out there. Does that matter at all?
16:56I mean, yeah, yeah, of course it matters, but I, I, I don't think you're paying what you, the, the draft price for DJ more.
17:04You're, you're buying him at such a reduced cost.
17:07Would you rather have Coker or DJ more Coker Coker.
17:10Okay. Would you rather have Luther burden or DJ more burden?
17:14Oh, burden. And I would have said burden the entire draft process if he didn't have the injury during train camp.
17:21Okay. So we're getting some good questions from the chat.
17:24Is this true? Why do flammable and inflammable mean the same thing?
17:28Interesting. Okay. All right. How about some sell highs?
17:31So it's Bucky Irving and DJ more is by lows.
17:34Uh, sell high Heath. What we got? I'm going to go Devante Smith.
17:38And the more I've thought about this Eagles game and, and kind of watching Tanner McKee throw the football is one thing,
17:45but also he had 48 dropbacks in that game.
17:48That's four more than Dak Prescott who leads the NFL at 44 dropbacks per game.
17:53It's about 25% higher than what you would expect from a normal quarterback.
17:57Um, and he was really bad on those dropbacks.
18:004.8 yards per attempt to 16% off target rates, which is awful.
18:04Um, and with all of that happening, Devante Smith is basically one catch away from a kind of mediocre game.
18:10And he's worth nine points on that touchdown catch.
18:13Um, so I think it's probably gonna be more like 10 targets instead of 14.
18:18He had a 50% catch rate with Tanner McKee.
18:21I think he's probably more of a number three wide receiver.
18:24And I'd like to see if I can sell off of one good game with Tanner McKee.
18:30Would you try to sell Devante Smith for Zay flowers?
18:33I mean, I'm just kidding. Yeah. I don't think you can get that done, but it's a joke about our stupid bet.
18:40Uh, yeah. You're in contention. You could get that deal done.
18:44If you knew that Lamar Jackson was going to miss, let's say in a month more, another month.
18:50Yeah. No, I would take Zay flowers at a second, but it's, you know, this bet has messed with my head because
18:57I want to believe in Devante Smith, but I see exactly what you see.
19:01Did you agree? I said on yesterday's show, I think I thought Tanner McKee was like the worst.
19:07I thought he was, I think I said, I said that Sunday night.
19:11Okay. Yeah. So yes, I agree. Okay. I thought he was just horrible.
19:15Here's the thing about Devante Smith. I think you could argue though that until the fantasy playoffs, he might have the best
19:22schedule of any wide receiver, Dallas, Washington giants by Pittsburgh, Dallas, Arizona, Indianapolis.
19:27Holy cow. It's so good. Then the fantasy playoffs, Seattle, Houston, San Francisco.
19:31That's not good. But yeah, that's the only thing that's making me a little optimistic here, but okay.
19:37Heath, I love the call. Not for my purposes, but for fantasy managers purposes.
19:41Jamie, who's your so high? Josh Jacobs. We have no idea what he's going to look like when he comes back and
19:48hopefully he's, you know, still a quality fantasy running back for the people that have stashed them.
19:54And we'll see what happens in terms of sharing touches or not sharing touches.
19:58But this offensive line is still very much a work in progress.
20:02And I'm going to guess just knowing how this typically goes, there's going to be a little bit of a ramp up period for him.
20:10Now, he does walk into a pretty favorable matchup against Detroit.
20:14I know their run defense much better than the past defense.
20:17But look, we just don't know what you're getting.
20:20And anytime you get a player of his name recognition, people get excited about the opportunity to start him.
20:26Everybody needs running backs in most fantasy leagues. If you could trade him now for something of significance, I would do it
20:33before maybe he doesn't look so good in this first game.
20:37We've got a trade offer in our inbox, Heath.
20:40Yeah. And I ignored you because I don't know what I want to do with it.
20:45Well, can we just let Jamie decide and we blame him if it goes wrong?
20:50I know exactly what Jamie is going to say.
20:53So you can go ahead and accept if you would like to.
20:57All right, Jamie. Heath and I have Josh Jacobs.
20:59We're four and two. We've gotten to four and two without Josh Jacobs.
21:04I don't think we have a great team, to be honest, but it's fine.
21:08We would give up Jacobs for Jadarian Price, Emmanuel Wilson, and Saquon Barkley.
21:12Jacobs for Price, Wilson, and Barkley? Essentially, Jacobs for Barkley.
21:16I think you have to do that. I think we probably should.
21:19I know every trade chart value and everything would say yes.
21:23I'm accepting it. Okay. But you could stash Price on IR, right?
21:27Yes. And we don't know what Charbonnet is going to look like.
21:31He could be the best running back in Seattle, so it could just be a junk.
21:36For the purposes of this show, would you rather have Barkley or Jacobs the rest of season?
21:41So, from what it seems like, based on everything that Philadelphia did yesterday, it sounds like Barkley's getting close to return.
21:48Like, they just basically discarded every other running back that they have.
21:52They only have two on the roster right now.
21:55Yeah. Pierce and Barkley. I thought that, wait, didn't I say that they signed someone?
22:00Yeah, they signed Elijah Mitchell. Yep. To their practice squad, right?
22:03I don't know. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right.
22:06Yeah, he's getting close to a return. And the other thing is, I don't know if you mentioned it with Josh Jacobs,
22:13he could get suspended if the video comes out.
22:16You know, he's not necessarily in the clear here.
22:19All right. So, we just made a trade. I also have another trade that I'm really excited to propose to Heath.
22:26I don't know if I want to do it, so I didn't propose it in the league, but I'm going to propose it on the air.
22:34We're going to come back. You're trading with Heath or your team?
22:38No, in the Eliminator League. I think it's a very fair trade, but I'm on the fence.
22:44We're allowed to trade in the Eliminator League? What's that?
22:47We're allowed to trade in that league? Yeah. Okay.
22:50Not in the FFT Open, though. Not in the FFT Open.
22:53Gotcha. I have an important announcement to make about the FFT Open, too.
22:57All right. We'll be right back with your tweets, your trade questions, your comments, Thursday night preview, and more after this.
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26:08Are you going to offer me, let's see, maybe Lamar Jackson?
26:12So the trade, let's see, did I put it in my notes because I think I forgot it?
26:18Yes. Okay. So we have a question about Isaiah Likely.
26:21That's our first tweet. First of all, Sounds RS from Twitter says a couple things.
26:26He says, would you trade Jamar Chase for Kenneth Walker in full PPR?
26:30Jamar Chase for Kenneth Walker. I'd rather have Walker.
26:33I'd rather have Chase. I think it's extremely fair, right, though?
26:36I mean... Yes. Yes. Okay. Then the second question was, would you sell high on Isaiah Likely with the quarterback situation moving forward?
26:44And would you buy low on A.J. Brown? We'll come back to A.J.
26:48Brown, but I did think Likely was super interesting.
26:51He's the number one tight end in fantasy. He's number two per game behind Brock Bowers.
26:56He's averaging 10 targets per game. He has five touchdowns in six games.
27:00The last three games, Giants quarterbacks are averaging 324 yards with eight touchdowns, five interceptions in those games.
27:06They're averaging 43.3 pass attempts per game. And I knew it.
27:10I mean, we all saw it and said it.
27:12This was a great, great portion of their schedule that's about to get much harder with Houston and then a bye and then Philadelphia.
27:20Then Washington, Jacksonville. Like, it's not so bad after that, although you do have San Francisco and Seattle and Cleveland.
27:27It is bad, but there's also some good ones along the way.
27:30Anywho, I was... I have Likely... I was thinking of making this trade to Heath, this trade offer.
27:36My Likely and Brees Hall for your Bejal Tootin and Sam Laporta.
27:40Likely and Brees for Tootin and Laporta. It's interesting.
27:43It is, right? Great trade for both sides. I'm worried about Brees Hall.
27:47I will say that. I think Braylon Allen has done really well.
27:51Yeah. But also, there is right now a massive downgrade from Likely to Laporta if you just look at points so far.
27:58So, am I giving up too much? What do you think about that trade?
28:03I'm not going to comment on it unless you actually offer it.
28:07Because I've been down this road with you too many times before where I thought I had a trade offer and then
28:14Adam decided he wanted to do something else. I mean, what's both of your records?
28:19Seven and five. We're both seven and five and we're like five points apart in total points.
28:24Both seven and five, five points apart in total points.
28:27So, Heath would be benefiting from Brees Hall. I would take him over Tootin if you tell me both are healthy right now.
28:35Adam would be benefiting. You're right. You're getting Tootin, Adam?
28:38Yeah. Yeah. Tootin and Laporta. You're getting the short-term upside.
28:41Heath is getting arguably the best player in the deal right now just in terms of production and likely.
28:47I don't think likely is going to fall off.
28:50That's the thing. I do. I think there's a chance.
28:53Oh, I definitely think he's going to fall off.
28:56I'm not sure if he's going to fall. Like Laporta is at 15 points per game, which is kind of about what I expect.
29:04I'm not sure if likely is going to fall past 15 points per game.
29:08Yeah, that's what I meant. Like fall off. Yeah, right.
29:12Yeah. I think there's a chance the Giants in the fantasy playoffs likely gets Detroit and Dallas.
29:17Doesn't get much better than that. It's a good comment from Mr.
29:21Nice guy. I don't know what Detroit's schedule is.
29:24They don't face Detroit, unfortunately, but I know that.
29:27But if I know if I know if they likely faces the Lions, then Sam LaForda gets to face the Giants.
29:34That's true. So I think just in general, I am worried about the Giants offense cratering.
29:39And to trust J.J. McCarthy, I think there's a decent chance he's going to be the guy.
29:44Or to trust Jameis Winston when they don't have the best matchups is it's making me a little bit nervous here.
29:51So the back and forget about our trade here.
29:54But back to the question is Isaiah likely how good of a sell high is Isaiah likely?
29:59There are just some other things about likely, though, like target per outrun rate, target share.
30:05He's rivaling the best wide receivers in football right now.
30:08He and he and Malik neighbors get every single target, basically.
30:11So, yeah. Heath, what do you think about likely?
30:14I think, like I said, he is going to lose at least 10% of his current fantasy point per game average.
30:21I wouldn't be surprised if he loses 20% of his fantasy point per game average.
30:26But I also think, like, I know the Giants have a winning record right now.
30:31So this seems like a strange comparison. But they're basically last year's Cardinals where they just, like, play absolutely awful, don't watch the game in the first half.
30:40And then we're going to throw 35 passes in the second half and everybody's going to score 20 fantasy points and it's going to be so much fun.
30:49So, yeah, I, but I felt the way you feel about the Giants offense right now about Arizona and it just never
30:56happened because they always had garbage time and they just kept throwing and kept throwing.
31:01So I think they can do that. I don't think they're going to win very many games, but they may not need to like six more wins.
31:09I mean, six total wins might win the NFC East right now.
31:13I made the trade offer. I think it might be a big mistake, but part of this is my nervousness about Breeze Hall.
31:21Are you going to accept it? I will evaluate a little later.
31:25I don't, I mean, it would probably be good because I have so much Sam Laporta just to diversify a little bit.
31:32I have a couple of Isaiah Likely teams. I am.
31:35I, I'm a little, I have no idea on Tootin versus Breeze Hall.
31:39Okay. Uh, then, then, I mean, just in, in general, I'm not trying to talk Heath out of this trade, but do
31:46you want to trade for, for, you know, good offenses?
31:49Right? Like, isn't it more appealing? I'm trading a giant and a jet for a Jaguar and a lion.
31:55Do you ever think about those types of things?
31:58I don't. No, you don't care. Okay. All right.
32:01Next question is, oh, it's by low on AJ Brown.
32:04You guys, are you in on that? Yeah. I mean, you hope he shook the rust off in, in the game Sunday and they just lost Romeo Dobbs.
32:14So, you know, full game healthy, hopefully has a better connection with, with Drake may get a questionable secondary Thursday night against the bears.
32:21So your window is going to be closing soon.
32:24If he has a big game, nobody's going to trade him.
32:28You're not getting, you know, you're not getting him cheap after he just had 10 targets and his first game back.
32:34So I think if you're, you're looking at it, you're looking for the novice fantasy manager that just saw three for 27
32:42and says, okay, he just may not be that good.
32:45Jalen Coker or AJ Brown rest of season? I still go Brown.
32:49Yeah, I go Brown. Yeah. I'd probably go Coker, but I was low on Brown coming into the year.
32:55So I haven't been given a lot of reason to adjust my priors yet.
32:59Your prior what? My priors yet. Oh. Two words.
33:02Did anyone think he just cursed? Was that the only one?
33:06Oh, okay. It said your priors yet. It sounded like prior.
33:09Okay. Rob Thomas says, buy low. What word do you think he said?
33:13I thought he said the S word. I thought he said my prior.
33:18Oh, prior S. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kick Heath off the show.
33:22All right. Rob Thomas says, buy low or sell high.
33:25I would have to rephrase this. Buy low or buy high on Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.
33:30Christian Watson right now is the number three wide receiver in fantasy.
33:34Depending on the format, he's top five per game.
33:37Matthew Golden is, ooh, damn it. I didn't put what he is for the season.
33:42He's not quite as good as Watson because of the touchdowns, but he's like a top ten receiver.
33:48So, Jamie, how would you value, what would you do with the Packers receivers here?
33:52There is a change coming because the backfield just got better.
33:56You know, Josh Jacobs is a significant upgrade over what they have.
34:00So, do they revert back to a little bit more of a running team or a run heavy team?
34:06I think that would be silly given how Jordan Love has played and how these guys are operating.
34:12They could lose some touchdowns because I think if they get, you know, in scoring opportunities, we see a little bit more
34:19Josh Jacobs, a little bit more faith in the running game.
34:22I'm not looking to trade them unless I'm getting absolute superstars.
34:26They've just been so good. So, you get concentrated targets for these guys.
34:30You get great opportunities from the way Love is just challenging down the field.
34:35Like, this is a throwback offense, essentially. No teams do this to the same level that they do.
34:41And hopefully it continues. I just don't think Josh Jacobs returning dramatically shifts the offense.
34:45So, I'm going to try and stick with these guys unless somebody is just saying, here's some package and you're getting one
34:52of the elite running backs or one of the elite wide receivers.
34:56Because I just don't think you're doing that one for one.
35:00I think they're probably both top 12 wide receivers.
35:03Believe it or not, Golden's only wide receiver 14 per game.
35:06He's averaging 16.5 PPR fantasy points per game, which would have made him wide receiver 9 last year.
35:12It's really, really strong. You could obviously value him as a top 12.
35:16You know, if you want to get into the nitty-gritty on them, they're both high ADOT guys.
35:22But not super high, but like Matthew Golden, 14.3 yards.
35:25He's 13th in ADOT. Christian Watson, 13.6 yards. He's 15th in ADOT.
35:29And I only found two wide receivers in the last three years that finished top 12 per game with ADOTs that high.
35:36That's because you don't generally see players with ADOTs this high get this many targets.
35:41Golden leads the NFL, including JSN, in targeted air yards this season.
35:45Wow. Okay. Like he's... Maybe the rule... Like Jamie said, Josh Jacobs could change things a little bit.
35:50But the way they're playing football right now... Sure.
35:53Yeah. And I think be encouraged if you have Jordan Love.
35:57First of all, he set out a huge game on Sunday.
36:00Three drop touchdowns for 92 yards. But, you know, it's not like he's doing anything crazy.
36:06He's just throwing more. His efficiency is a little bit worse than usual.
36:10But if he actually throws more, he's good. We know that.
36:13So update his stat. He's now had 31 games in his career with 30 or more pass attempts.
36:19He is now at 20 points per game in 20 of those games.
36:2320 of 31. It's two-thirds of the time if he throws 30 or more passes, he scores 20 or more points.
36:30Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Hipster Doofus says, sell high on George Pickens and buy low on Brian Thomas Jr.
36:36Sell high on George Pickens? I think you got those backwards.
36:40Well, so I think the theory is like he's George Pickens.
36:43He still has the name value. And this is just like a get what you can for George Pickens.
36:49All right. I'll just editorialize. Get what you can for George Pickens.
36:53Buy low on Brian Thomas Jr. What do you think about these?
36:57I would not know. The only way you're buying low on Brian Thomas Jr.
37:02is if you think he's going to get traded.
37:05And if he does get traded, there's obviously a boost because of play, first and foremost.
37:10But the landing spot would determine how good he could be.
37:13At this point, I mean, he's just been phased out of the offense.
37:18He's droppable. So I don't know what you would be wanting to trade for him unless you're just trading backups for backups
37:25with the hope that he gets moved. And get what you can get for Pickens is probably not the smartest way to
37:32approach it because at some point, he's going to have a stretch of gains where he performs close to what his draft value should be.
37:40It just hasn't happened yet. You don't want to say, hey, wait for a CeeDee Lamb injury for him to be amazing.
37:47That's just not a smart way to approach it.
37:50But I think... I don't think it's even a CeeDee Lamb injury.
37:54I think if this is George Pickens, worst case scenario, he's Jamison Williams.
37:58And so there's still a boom game coming and wait and sell after that.
38:02Would you rather have Pickens or A.J. Brown? Brown.
38:05Pickens. All right. And next up, we have Ben.
38:08He said, buy Lad McConkie? And after the buy, he has the Rams and the Texans, just to let you know.
38:15But would you buy Lad McConkie? Trent McDuffie may be out, and Texans' defense hasn't been the same.
38:21I don't really think McDuffie... I mean, he might be out, but...
38:25I mean, McDuffie's groin injuries, you know, day to day.
38:28Okay. Fair enough. Is he a buy, though? He was my buy low last week.
38:33I'll stick with it. It should be even cheaper now.
38:36Yeah. Look, this team's a mess. There might be a coordinator change before we see them play again.
38:42And he, as he said last week, you know, the one game where he's actually been healthy, he performed well.
38:48You know, so rib injury, concussion, foot, whatever he's been dealing with, it's been very frustrating for Lad McConkie.
38:54I just saw him dropped in a 12-team league last night for a team that's just been miserable and needs healthy bodies.
39:01So I'm going to put in a claim to try and pick him up.
39:06You know, he's still got the potential, I think, to be a top 30 receiver.
39:11You know, you covet those type of players. And we know that his upside is top 15.
39:16So, yeah, if you can get him cheap, why not?
39:19Someone's asking McConkie or Cooper rest of season. McConkie.
39:22Yeah, McConkie. McConkie or Tyson rest of season. McConkie.
39:25All right. Yeah, I watched his seven routes that he ran.
39:29Because remember, I talked about, like, I don't like the way they're using him.
39:33They don't use him in the slot as much.
39:36And he's running too far downfield for a team that they don't have time to let these pass plays develop.
39:43So he ran seven routes. He played eight snaps.
39:45He was in the slot on two of them, which is very low.
39:50He had a 12.2-yard average route depth, which would basically, I mean, it was only seven routes, but it would basically come close to leading all receivers.
39:58It's super high. And he had one target. And that one target was a short route.
40:04It was a seven-yard route depth, a 10-yard A dot.
40:07He made a great move and got open. And I think it was out of the slot.
40:12And that's how you have to use, like, please go back to using McConkie differently or get your line healthy and pass protect.
40:20But until then, I just, I don't, it doesn't make any freaking sense to me.
40:24And it's pissing me off, quite frankly. It's like, it just seems like, it just seems so obvious.
40:30You want to get your best player the ball?
40:33Well, don't make him run so far downfield when you can't drop back and throw the ball.
40:39It doesn't make any damn sense. All right. Sorry.
40:42Fantastic wants to know if we should sell DeAndre Swift.
40:45It's not a bad call, just knowing that Mononga's been banged up with the toe injury.
40:50And, you know, we don't know when he's going to return, but at some point he'll still be a factor.
40:56And I think he's more of a factor than Roshan.
41:00And then Swift has been playing through these, you know, minor injuries.
41:03I know he was off the injury report last week, but it feels as if, and I think there was a report
41:11yesterday that said they're trying to just manage his touches at this point.
41:15So not a bad move. You know, you can turn Swift into, you know, maybe Basial Toon and, or Bucky Irving and, you know, you need a receiver.
41:24There's probably a lot of players that would, a lot of fantasy managers would give up something significant for, for Swift.
41:31So it's certainly worth exploring. I, uh, I tweeted this out yesterday just to kind of make the point that if Mononga
41:38is out again, Roshan's a very good flex. Um, Mononga, the first four games of the season played 41% of the offensive snaps.
41:45And there was the one game where he played 54 because Swift got benched for fumbling.
41:50Roshan's played 40 the last two weeks. So I think the Swift role is the Swift role, but he's been probably a
41:57little better than you can expect him to be.
42:00So yeah, if you can turn him, if that Jamie was talking about Bucky or Basial Tootin plus, I said by low
42:07on Bucky Irving, the plus for me, for those guys needs to be another starter, not bench depth.
42:13But if you can get Basial or Bucky and another starter for Swift, I would do that.
42:19Yeah. One thing I do like about Swift, the role, just like a change in the role is that they're throwing to him a lot.
42:27Now he has seven screen pass catches so far in, in six games.
42:31He had 14 last year. So it's not like so much more, but you know, you see two straight games with four catches.
42:38You got a five catch game in week two and he's really good out in space.
42:43So, um, that's going to help him a little bit, but yeah, there's, there's some things that, uh, the guys mentioned that makes sense.
42:51Um, where am I? Uh, what's our next one here?
42:54Sorry, I'm lost in my notes. Um, all right.
42:57We actually have to get to the Thursday night game.
43:01So let's do one more here. Would you sell high?
43:04We've got a whole list here from Ben. I, uh, Brock Bowers.
43:08No. Wouldn't sell on him. He's having basic light.
43:10I don't know if there's ever been a tight end season this good.
43:15So he's averaging more fantasy points than Travis Kelsey's ever averaged.
43:18I think my concern would be like this offense.
43:21Finally, you know, the wheels fall off. They go to Mendoza.
43:25It's just not as good. And you get, you get number one tight end, but you don't get like top five overall player kind of, kind of Bowers.
43:34If you're selling him for superstars, like, you know, he's just said Bucky and a suit and a, and a starter, uh, uh, tootin and a starter.
43:42Like you got to sell him for two or three starters.
43:46And like top 15 starters, would you sell him for Amon Ross St.
43:50Brown? And what? No, just straight up. Yeah. I mean, that's the type of player that you got to make that trade for.
43:58I probably wouldn't. I don't know if I would either, but that's the range that we're talking about here.
44:04We're talking about first round caliber player or two second round caliber players.
44:08Like, you know, if, and I think you should, you know, if you believe that Zay Flowers is going to perform like
44:15he did with Lamar Jackson and Jackson's coming back soon and you can get Zay Flowers and Sam Laporta or Flowers.
44:22You know what I'm saying? Like that's the type of trade you're making.
44:26Okay. And do you think someone mentioned the Falcons?
44:29Do you think Drake London is a, is anything?
44:32I mean, he does not have a touchdown this year.
44:35Is he a buy low? Is he a sell high?
44:38Or is he just Drake? Like, does he fall into a category?
44:42He's a, he's a top 12 wide receiver. I think if he falls into any category, it's a buy low just because
44:49like you said, it hasn't been a, uh, an unbelievable year yet for him, but you have to sell the Drake London
44:56manager on, on getting rid of him, you know?
44:59So yeah. Yeah. I, I said, I said yesterday that I'd rather have, um, Drake London than Malik neighbors.
45:05I think that was yesterday. You guys did not agree.
45:08When was that? It was yesterday. It was yesterday.
45:11Yeah. I would probably agree, but I don't feel comfortable with it.
45:15But the thing is, if it's close, like think about if you trade Malik neighbors for Drake London, what can you get as a throw in?
45:24Can you get a, a number two receiver with that?
45:27You know, um, can you get like Tucker craft and, and Drake London for Malik neighbors, something like that?
45:33It might be, might be worth a look because the guy's got 10, six, 11, and 10 targets in four games with Penix.
45:40He has 96 or more yards and three of them.
45:44He was open for a big play. They just missed it against the bears in week six.
45:49The touchdowns will come. And he was a top five wide receiver with Penix last year.
45:54So, all right. Um, all right. We got ready to preview the game.
45:58Yeah. Well, I'm not, let's take a break. We'll be right back with new England at Chicago after this on FFT.
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48:25New England at Chicago, Thursday night football. Nah. Nah.
48:28Okay. Stat of the game. So A.J. Brown, where do you guys have A.J.
48:32Brown ranked? Top 15? I think 20. Okay. So the Bears.
48:36Exactly. 20. Justin Jefferson, Devante Smith, Tedderall McMillan, Drake London, Garrett Wilson.
48:40They have all scored 12.5 or fewer fantasy points against the Chicago Bears.
48:44It is weird. I mean, they've been great against these receivers.
48:47I just mentioned London had a chunk play downfield that they missed on, so he would have had a good game, but not an amazing game.
48:56Also, the Bears had the second highest pressure rate in the NFL in week six.
49:01They like to blitz. This is an offensive line that is missing one starter for the year and two to three more probably for this game.
49:09So, Jamie, just your thoughts on Drake May and A.J.
49:12Brown and Demario Douglas and Hunter Henry and the Patriots passing game in general.
49:17Yeah, I think Drake May is still a top three quarterback this week.
49:21You know, hopefully he continues to play like he's been playing.
49:24I think he'll use his legs a little bit in this game.
49:28Look, it's a very much receiving core that's a work in progress because you lose Matt Collins, you lose Romeo Dobbs, you get A.J.
49:36Brown back. He didn't look like he was right.
49:39Hunter Henry's playing well. Demario Douglas is playing well.
49:42I think you're going to get the running backs involved in the passing game to an extent.
49:47So, May should be okay. I think A.J. Brown, given the injuries at receiver, the four teams on a bye, if you have A.J.
49:55Brown, you're most likely starting him. Like he said, 20, I think that's probably going to be the low ranking that you'll
50:02see on our side and probably close to the lowest that you'll see across the industry.
50:07So, at worst case, a number two fantasy receiver.
50:10You just hope that he's a little bit better, performs a little bit more consistently to what A.J.
50:16Brown has typically done. And then I think Douglas is a – I don't want to say boom-bust number three receiver, but he's just a number three receiver.
50:25And Henry's a borderline starter. For me, he's a top ten guy this week.
50:30I just think he's going to continue to be involved.
50:33This Bears defense is also banged up as well.
50:36So, it's an opportunity here for hopefully the offensive line to hold up well enough that Drake May will still be able to get his guys involved.
50:44Man, a lot of tricky calls in this game.
50:47All right. So, Drake May is not that tricky of a call.
50:51You guys are starting – let's see. Jamie, you have Drake May 1?
50:55Or is that going to change? You have him 1.
50:59Heath, you have him 1. Okay. Okay. So, start Drake May.
51:02Dave has him fourth behind Jordan Love at Detroit, Jared Goff, and C.J.
51:06Stroud. Interesting against the Giants. And I would say Love and Goff for me are – that's close enough to where if
51:13one of those game lines moves a little bit, one of those guys might be ahead of him.
51:19I absolutely hate my life. I have a Drake May-Jarrett Goff team and a Jared Goff-Jordan Love team.
51:25The Drake May-Jarrett Goff team I have picked right twice all year, and one of those was Jared Goff's bye.
51:31So – Yeah, that's – it's frustrating. All right.
51:34So, start A.J. Brown. How about DeMario Douglas versus – oh, man.
51:38It's tough. Like, you know, we'll get some practice reports on like Saquon Barkley or whatever, but – Over Jalen Waddle.
51:45I think that's an easy one. I was going to say, what about a Damian Pierce against Dallas?
51:51But we don't – we won't know necessarily about Barkley, so.
51:54If Barkley misses practice today and Thursday, I would start Douglas.
51:58Agreed. Okay. How about with Jordan Mason potentially back?
52:01Would you start a Vikings running back against the Colts or DeMario Douglas?
52:05Aaron Jones still. I think Aaron Jones still, yeah.
52:08Josh Jacobs or DeMario Douglas? Jacobs. Yep. It's very close, but yeah.
52:12You guys have Devon Vele. The consensus has Vele back-to-back with Douglas, but Heath likes Vele much better.
52:18Jamie likes Douglas a little bit better. Denzel Boston or DeMario Douglas?
52:21It's close. I'd probably go Boston. I have – so I think it's Douglas barely for me.
52:27And then Hunter Henry, Jamie said he's top 12.
52:30You both have him ninth right now. Dave has him 12th.
52:33He's not getting a lot of targets. It's a little nerve-wracking here.
52:37Oh, he is absolutely – and he just always is.
52:40It's like we've done this with Hunter Henry for a few years now.
52:45You should never feel like he has a good floor.
52:48I think he has four or five targets in his last three games.
52:52He scored a touchdown in all of them or in two of them.
52:56And so if he scores a touchdown, he's going to be top 10.
53:00And if he doesn't, he's going to be on the fool due.
53:04Yeah, yeah. He's running about two-thirds of the routes most weeks.
53:08He's had a target share above 17% once. So this is Hunter Henry we're talking about.
53:13I think it's like it's a true two-tight-end set to an Eli Reardon selfie.
53:18Yeah. Those guys are both – like there's eight tight-end targets.
53:21He's just – Only getting a little more than half of them.
53:25I think when you start to look at him versus the tight-ends around him – because the guys that are getting a
53:32lot of targets are easy, I think, to gravitate toward.
53:35The Juwan Johnson's, the – Goddard? Huh? Goddard? Goddard.
53:38I think Garth's going to get a lot of targets, but that's a fair comp just given the quarterback situation.
53:45But those are the – like that's where he kind of is right now.
53:49Like I think it's easy to start Tucker Kraft over him even though he's been more productive than Kraft just because of who Kraft is playing.
53:57Well, what about Loveland? So I would start Loveland and Pitts ahead of him, and that's probably risky just given the sample size for each.
54:06But when those guys are right and they're – Loveland's two of the last three games and Pitts the last two games, there's just much more upside.
54:14Well, Heath, are you going to update your Loveland ranking or are you leaving him at 23?
54:20He should be at like 16. Okay. But listen, he's one – and that's fudging the math a little bit – but
54:27he's one where you just have to decide whether you're willing to bet on the upside or not.
54:33I said Hunter Henry doesn't have much of a floor.
54:36I think his floor is probably still better than Loveland's.
54:39I agree with that. Loveland does have more upside.
54:42How have the Patriots been against tight ends this year?
54:45I know historically, Ravel's teams are exceptional. Excellent except for Brock Bowers.
54:49Bowers had 110 yards and a touchdown, but in that same game, Michael Mayer had two yards on one target.
54:55Brock Bowers is a wide receiver. I mean, he is – he's not.
55:00He lines up out wide – And Gonzalez didn't play in that game.
55:0450% of the time, not 90% of the time or anything, but he is the – Well, no, wide receivers line up in the slot too.
55:12That's true. He's the closest thing to a wide receiver.
55:15Yes. I think Michael Mayer is a better representation of tight ends against New England.
55:20Pat Frymuth, four catches for 32 yards. Dalton Kincaid, one catch for seven yards.
55:25I can't say it's a good matchup. It might be a bad matchup.
55:29Okay. So, yeah. One thing to note is that this is not a downfield passing game right now.
55:35Caleb Williams has the fourth lowest ADOT in football among qualified passers.
55:39And Colson Loveland, the first two games of the year, very, very much downfield, which scared me a little bit.
55:45But that has changed. So he's getting some easier targets.
55:48We think Gonzalez is on Rome? Makes the most sense.
55:52I think Gonzalez stays on one side of the field, personally.
55:55I don't think he shadows, but maybe. Especially if they get Carlton Davis back this week.
56:00What do you think, Jamie? You think he's going to shadow Adunze?
56:04I just think where they're going to both line up, that's who's going to see the most.
56:10Burden's in the slot. Looks like just over 50% of his snaps.
56:14So he's probably not going to see Burden much.
56:16Yeah. But this is a good defense. I mean, that's the thing.
56:20It's, you know, the Patriots are good. And what are they?
56:24They're 17th against wide receivers. They've done well against Metcalf, Parker Washington, Garrett Wilson.
56:28But, you know, they're not unbeatable, obviously. So you have high expectations for the Bears passing game?
56:34Moderate. Yeah, I think I've got Caleb as a low-end QB1, right around 10.
56:38Luther Burden's a low-end wide receiver, too. I have zero expectations for Roman Adunze.
56:43So better expectations for the run game than I do the pass game.
56:47Rank the wide receivers. The top three. No one's starting.
56:50Khalif Raymond. In this game? Oh, no, the top four.
56:53I forgot about A.J. Brown. All right, the top four.
56:57Brown, Burden, Douglas Adunze. Agreed. And, yeah, the Adunze thing, that's why I brought up the average depth of target thing.
57:03It's just he's sacrificial X-ing big time right now.
57:06Luther Burden ran like 40% of the routes last week.
57:10You guys are confident in him this week? Yeah.
57:13Is he top 24 guy? Yep. I think he's 24 exactly for me.
57:17All right. Josh Jacobs or Luther Burden? Burden. Burden.
57:20Caleb Williams or CJ Stroud? Stroud. Stroud. Caleb Williams or Matthew Stafford against the Raiders, at the Raiders?
57:25I've got Stafford. Stafford. Caleb Williams or Aaron Rodgers at the Saints?
57:29Caleb. Caleb. I think we have a lot of chat questions here, so let's get to them.
57:35Did we talk about the Patriots running recs? Nope.
57:38We didn't talk about any of the running backs, so we will do that.
57:42Loveland or Kittle? PPR. Oh, Kittle. That's not close.
57:45LaPorta or Loveland? That's not close. LaPorta. Loveland or Goddard?
57:48Non-PPR. Non-PPR is interesting. I might go Loveland there.
57:51That would be the only—I've got Goddard ahead in both.
57:54Burden or Abuka? Burden. Burden. Burden, Boston, Christian Kirk, or Cooper?
57:58Burden. Burden. Demario Douglas, Michael Wilson, or RJ Harvey?
58:01PPR. Wilson. I've got Wilson barely ahead of Douglas.
58:04Very close. Purdy or May? May. May. Caleb or Goff?
58:07Goff. Goff. AJ Brown or Coker? Coker. Coker. Coker.
58:10Heath, which running backs do you like in this game?
58:13DeAndre Swift. That's it. Why not Stevenson? Because I'm kind of afraid this has turned into a three-headed monster in the Patriots' backfield.
58:21He is not—for the most part, Ramondre Stevenson has not played well this year.
58:25And now Corey Kiner's getting fourth-quarter carries. And I think part of that was Travion got benched.
58:31And I think part of it was they don't trust Ramondre not to fumble either if it's one of those run-up-the-clock situations.
58:38So I've got Ramondre. I think right now he's just inside the top 23, but he is much closer to Roshon Johnson
58:45than he is to DeAndre Swift for me. And Jamie, you've got Ramondre 19th.
58:49Dave has him 16th. So a little more confidence in Ramondre.
58:53Yeah, I still think he's the early guy. And the Henderson fumble should only help him and not necessarily make Corey Kiner
59:00a significant enough piece that they're taking Ramondre off the field for significant stretches.
59:04As I said Sunday, my take on it was they probably were prepping Kiner to play with the idea that Henderson was not going to go.
59:13So they had some plays designed for him. And then you have the Henderson fumble.
59:18And I don't know what Stevenson was at in that game, why they gave Kiner all those opportunities.
59:23As soon as they got down to the goal line, I know Kiner had one chance or at least one chance.
59:30Stevenson came in and didn't score. But I still view him as the lead running back here and still going to get the majority of touches.
59:39So looking at some of the defensive line issues for the Bears, I think there's an opportunity for Stevenson.
59:45You just downgrade him. So he's a low-end number two running back as opposed to mid-to-high-end number two guy.
59:51Okay. Stevenson, yeah? No, go ahead. Stevenson or Braylon Allen we have in the chat?
59:56Braylon. Braylon Allen started the week, so. Oh. Yeah.
59:59How about Vikings running back or this guy, Ramondre?
60:01I think I have Jones one spot ahead of Ramondre right now.
60:05That may change if Jordan Mason, if there's any reports that he's just going to be the lead guy and Jones is
60:12going to go back to what he was at the start of the season.
60:17But I think Jones is just safer. I'd go Jones, Ramondre, Mason.
60:21Okay. Okay. How about Tony Pollard or Ramondre? Ramondre.
60:24Yeah. I may have that wrong in the projections because Pollard always projects higher than he should.
60:29But I'll go Ramondre. How about RJ Harvey or Roshan Johnson?
60:33Harvey. It's Roshan for me. I'm very optimistic. It's basically been 12 touches per game.
60:38If you take out the 30-touch Mononghi game. 12 touches per game for the 1B back for the Bears and one fantasy
60:45point per touch for the 1B back for the Bears.
60:48So I think it may be 10 points, but I think you're going to get around 12 points from Roshan Johnson.
60:55Yeah. I don't know what this was about, but he kind of Corey Kiner last week because he had 13 carries, but
61:02five of them were in the last three minutes of the game.
61:06But they were important carries. I mean, he was salting the game away.
61:10Well, I think it may be exactly what happened with Corey Kiner.
61:14What's the one concern Ben Johnson has with DeAndre Swift right now?
61:17Yeah. Yeah. Fumbles. Okay. I think that's it for this game.
61:21Enjoy the game. I think it's going to be a great game with a lot of tough calls.
61:27So, uh, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I can't do it with full conviction.
61:32All right. Let's see what the chat is. Are there holes in your sleeves by your wrist?
61:37Oh, yeah. Oh, damn it. You saw that? Yeah.
61:40I didn't think that was going to show up.
61:43Is it like, you know, to cover your hands like when you're cold or is that just like ripped?
61:49I've had this shirt for so long that like.
61:52Now you got to show the audience. So I'll show where you're looking.
61:56No way. It's so embarrassing. No. More or less embarrassing than the beard's going to be in March.
62:02Look at that. Oh my gosh. It's a, it's a wear around the house when it's cold kind of shirt, you know?
62:09Oh, it's a schmata. Whatever that means, dude. Whatever.
62:12Um, okay. Jordan says the Eagles will tank. Saquon will get traded and Damien Pierce will be a sustainable flex.
62:18No. Um, if he gets traded. Yeah. Then I think Pierce is a sustainable flex, but.
62:24It's going to have to be a big trade.
62:26There's, there's two running backs that aren't necessarily on the trade market, but that, you know, NFL fans talk about it like Barkley and Jonathan Taylor.
62:35Oh, could they get traded? Well, Taylor's, I mean, it's realistic to talk about them at this point because their, their team is in trouble, man.
62:43Franchise in trouble. That sauce Gardner trade was horrible.
62:46Just so bad. Uh, Drake. And the Daniel Jones contract was bad.
62:50Uh, yeah. Well, Daniel Jones does that to everyone.
62:53You know, he, whenever he needs a contract, he has a good year.
62:57Nats fan 500 says Drake may will pan out as a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes.
63:02And all is said and done. It's bold. Could be.
63:05You never know. Long way to go. He needs to get going.
63:09Weiner nailed it. What do you say? That you just need to get rid of that and just go back to stitch fix.
63:17Yeah, I know. Emphasize says fix. Um, what are the odds that Brian Thomas Jr.
63:22gets traded? 30%. I was going to say 35.
63:25So, yeah. Um, M Corrado, Jordan Mason will be a top 18 running back rest of season.
63:30So it's so funny to say that with the report that we got of the Vikings, is potentially shopping for a running back.
63:37Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. Gamer Eric says big news is that Adam's eye is 80% healed if he gets good news from the doc today.
63:45So I actually went yesterday. No, I went Monday.
63:48I went Monday. It's not all great news. And I'm a little nervous about something.
63:53And if anybody has experience with this, I'd love to know.
63:57I might have to get my eyelid drained. And that sounds like the, well, the stye on my eyelid.
64:03Just pull it out. It sounds really painful. I don't know if it is.
64:07I can't pull it out. I have to use a, I'm using these antibiotic eye drops and, um, I have to do
64:14like a hot compress on my eye or warm compress three times a day.
64:19Eye drops four times a day. It's really annoying, but I don't want to have to get it drained because that sounds super painful.
64:27Uh, Jonah Coleman will be the RB one when he returns and Caleb Williams or Drake may may and it could be
64:34fun if Coleman's number one, but it probably needs an injury to have it.
64:38I think if, if JK Dobbins gets hurt before Jonah Coleman returns, that will be true.
64:43That's a question by the way, from Christian Ramirez.
64:46And this one is, Oh, another one from Nats fan is chase Brown high on the worryometer at this point.
64:53Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he really is. Uh, do we have anything else we'd like to grade the trade?
64:59I get Jamar chase for Jefferson and, and, uh, Jalen Warren.
65:02It was Tyler Warren. Could be Tyler Warren. Jefferson.
65:05Uh, damn good. And pretty damn targeted. I'd rather have chase.
65:09I think I'd rather have chase. Jamar chase actually has some very encouraging target per out run rate 30% or higher.
65:15Three straight games, target share over 30% in all three of his healthy games.
65:20Exciting stuff. Like, yes. And that's the thing is like he had the week one thing where it was just like the typical Bengals week one.
65:28And then he had the game where he left with a concussion.
65:32And so like, if you look at his for the season stats, did Jefferson leave a game early too?
65:38Okay. Uh, so week three against Tampa Bay. Yep.
65:41Um, RJ, RJ, Harvey, Rashad white rest of season.
65:44PPR white, white. Would you drop McConkie for Omar Cooper?
65:47No, no. Would you rather start Roshan? That's exactly what happened in the league.
65:52I referenced by the way. McConkie was dropped for Cooper.
65:55Roshan Bam night or is it Mario Douglas Douglas?
65:58Yeah. And Adam puts the sty in style. Thank you.
66:01Come on. Show one more time. Let me see what the sty, the wrist, the wrist.
66:06Yeah. And the other one is ripped too. So I don't know if you could.
66:11I don't like just throw the shirt away. It's a very, look, it's a, this is another embarrassing admission.
66:17I did sleep in this shirt. This is a great sleep shirt.
66:21You don't want to sleep in your nice shirts, right?
66:24You want to sleep in your warm ripped shirts.
66:27You don't even know. You're in Florida. You don't even know.
66:31I don't, I just don't need to, I don't sleep in shirts.
66:35Well, I, oh, you can't do that in the winter.
66:38Well, it's not winter yet. You can't do that in the fall.
66:42You have a furnace, don't you? Yeah, but it's still cold.
66:45Like you still got a butt. I slept in this shirt and a hoodie last night.
66:50It's cold, man. It's really cold. I don't, I'm not going to put the heat up that high.
66:56You know how expensive that stuff is now? Well, crazy.
67:00There was one other, one other stat I want to leave you with.
67:04Michael Wilson has eight end zone targets and zero catches on those eight end zone targets.
67:09Only Christian Watson has more end zone targets than Michael Wilson.
67:12He does have a 16 yard ADOT on his eight end zone targets, but eight end zone targets, zero catches for Michael Wilson.
67:20I'm looking forward to the AI image of Adam bundled up in bed on social media later today.
67:26If you, uh, if you found out Michael, if you found out Patrick Sertan was playing, there's no way you're starting Michael Wilson this week.
67:34I don't want to start Michael Wilson to begin with.
67:37I don't think you, I mean, look, in a two receiver league, I would try to get away from him.
67:43In three receiver league, it's hard to get away from him just because of all those targets he's getting.
67:49But if Sertan is playing, I think that's easy.
67:52Yeah. Okay. Adam would rather freeze to death and pay a few extra bucks for heat.
67:58Extra buck? You can't even imagine. I mean, I don't even want to get into it, but I paid for oil last
68:05year and paid for oil this year to heat my house.
68:08It's so much more expensive. It's crazy. I'll know it.
68:11You all know it, but, um, it's not a fit, but it has nothing to do with it.
68:17Even if like the heat, I just don't use, like, I don't want to be sweating.
68:22So, you know, I'm not going to put the, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's this area in between sweating and
68:29wearing three layers to go to bed. I'm cold no matter what.
68:33Like I'm just, I run cold. I run cold.
68:36You know? So, so you don't probably don't have to worry about sweating.
68:40We put the heat on 68. That's what we sleep at.
68:44That's, that's reasonable. It's not like it's 62 degrees in my room.
68:48I, I, I, I'm ashamed to admit this, but we set the AC on 70 at night.
68:53Yeah. That's a nice temperature. Right. I don't need to, I don't need to wear a hoodie to go to bed.
69:00But at 68 you would. Uh, all right. Let's talk to you.
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