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Week 8 Start Sit Advice (Part 1) | MUST-Start Players & Big Names to AVOID (10/29 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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1 hr 33 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Oct 29, 2026
Published
Thu, October 29, 2026
96
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59
Players mentioned
Topics
Breece HallDK MetcalfHunter HenryA.J. BrownBraelon AllenJosh JacobsOllie Gordon IIOmar Cooper Jr.Trevor LawrenceAmari CooperCarnell TateD.J. MooreGarrett WilsonGeno Smith
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A.J. Brown

NegativeProjection14:10

AJ Brown is ranked top 20 but just barely in Week 8 against Miami. The source is not thrilled with starting him despite being a number two receiver, citing that Miami's third-best defense against receivers is skewed by only two wide receivers having more than six targets against them, and noting that AJ Brown has been terrible.

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NegativeInjury14:10

AJ Brown appeared on the injury report with a knee injury on top of an existing ankle injury. The source noted that AJ Brown had a knee injury when he did his physical this offseason, suggesting a recurring or lingering issue.

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NegativeInjury70:41

AJ Brown has a knee injury on top of a pre-existing ankle injury; he had a knee injury during his physical this offseason. The source notes he's been terrible this season, which is one reason they're not thrilled with starting him.

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Aaron Jones

NegativeInjury30:05

Missed practice heading into Week 8; source notes this was expected and calls him day-to-day.

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Aaron Rodgers

NegativeUsage43:00

Rodgers did not throw to his wide receivers last week, instead throwing to his running backs a ton. This raises questions about receiver involvement going forward and affects the outlook for his receiver group.

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Adonai Mitchell

NegativeRole10:29

The source notes that Adonai Mitchell still gets open in Geno Smith's offense but didn't matter last week, suggesting limited target volume despite his ability to create separation.

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Amari Cooper

PositiveRole32:27

Bernard is a flex option in Cleveland at Pittsburgh game.

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NegativeBust47:44

The source expresses skepticism about Amari Cooper, saying 'I see Cooper and I'm just like, what?' indicating doubt about his fantasy viability.

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Braelon Allen

NegativeProjection29:15

Braylon Allen is ranked significantly higher than the source's preference, appearing in rankings alongside Brees Hall. The source noted it wouldn't surprise him if Braylon Allen were better than Brees Hall if Hall were out, suggesting conditional upside depending on Hall's availability.

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NegativeInjury30:20

Limited in practice heading into Week 8; injury status and availability unclear.

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NegativeDepth Chart77:11

Braylon Allen is ranked significantly higher than Breece Hall in the source's rankings, reflecting a disagreement between analysts on the Jets running back hierarchy; one the source ranked Breece Hall while another did not, resulting in Braylon Allen being positioned higher in the rankings.

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Breece Hall

NegativeProjection29:15

The source would start both Josh Jacobs and Chuba Hubbard over Breece Hall in Week 8, and would start AJ Brown over Braylon Allen, but noted it wouldn't surprise him if Braylon Allen were better if Breece Hall were out.

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NegativeInjury29:15

Breece Hall was in concussion protocol and limited in practice Monday; the source approached ranking him based on his proximity to playing, though the team generally does not rank players in concussion protocol. The source expressed confidence in ranking him despite the protocol status.

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NegativeInjury30:20

Limited in practice heading into Week 8; source expresses concern about Hall's status, having tried to trade him away and noting 'you're really worried about Breece Hall' in league context.

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PositiveProjection63:01

Identified as a sleeper play worth monitoring in the Jets running back situation; recommended as a start if he receives significant workload.

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PositiveValue72:36

If Breece Hall plays, he's in consideration over Ollie Gordon. In full PPR, Hall is probably close to Gordon; in non-PPR, Gordon is easily preferred. The source indicates Hall is a viable option if he's healthy.

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PositiveProjection75:58

If Breece Hall plays, he is ranked as a start over Quinshawn Judkins, Jalen Warren, and Bejal Tootin, indicating the source views him as the preferred running back option in the Jets offense.

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Brenton Strange

PositiveProjection10:33

The source recommends starting Brenton Strange against the Colts, noting he had the same number of targets as Parker Washington in the last three Jacksonville games (7-8 targets per game). The source believes Jacksonville will beat Indianapolis easily but still throw enough passes to support Strange. The Colts rank 19th against tight ends.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

PositiveProjection6:00

Expected to have a showcase game against the Colts; the source believes Thomas will get the ball and benefit from the matchup, which should also help Trevor Lawrence's passing stats.

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Bryce Young

NegativeProjection26:55

Mentioned alongside Lamar Jackson and Jordan Love in Week 8 start/sit decision context; no specific stance provided.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeProjection61:37

Ranked just behind the top-tier QBs (Cousins, Geno Smith, Goff, Brissett) in Week 8 QB rankings.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeInjury29:57

Mispracticed with a shoulder injury.

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NegativeInjury30:55

Missed practice with shoulder injury heading into Week 8; availability unclear.

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Chuba Hubbard

PositiveProjection68:24

Chuba Hubbard is ranked ahead of Breece Hall in Week 8, per the source's preference.

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Colby Parkinson

NegativeInjury31:50

Missed practice; only walkthrough was held, not official practice.

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D.J. Moore

PositiveInjury30:08

Practiced and source is very hopeful Moore will play; wore non-contact jersey on Friday but this is a positive sign at the start of the week, as his previous two-week absence pattern showed non-contact jersey on Friday followed by rule-out, suggesting earlier-week practice is encouraging.

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NegativeInjury31:15

Practiced and source is 'very hopeful' he will play in Week 8; however, practicing in non-contact jersey suggests some lingering concern about full availability.

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Davante Adams

NegativeProjection62:49

Mentioned in context of target distribution comparison; one the source expects Davante Adams to receive more targets than Omar Cooper Jr. in a particular league matchup.

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DK Metcalf

PositiveRole32:27

Source says 'yes' to liking wide receivers in Cleveland at Pittsburgh game; DK is a clear start.

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NegativeRole43:43

Treat DK Metcalf as a number two receiver; the run game was dominant, so targets may not be as plentiful as in previous weeks. Hope that targets continue to be there for him.

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PositiveRole44:02

Metcalf is a must-start receiver and has been very steady. His best game was against Cleveland in terms of performance and production. Prior to the Saints game, he had 15 targets and 11 catches with better fantasy production. The source expects similar production against Cleveland, noting the Browns secondary has not played lights out. Treat Metcalf as a number two receiver and hope targets continue.

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NegativeProjection62:28

Mentioned in comparison to Trey Tucker and Jeremy Bernard; very close in tier ranking, though some analysts trust Tucker more.

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Dontayvion Wicks

NegativeInjury31:40

Missed practice; only walkthrough was held, not official practice.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection69:55

Drake May is an obvious start in Week 8 against Miami, per the source's recommendation.

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Dylan Sampson

NegativeInjury41:21

Sampson mispracticed Wednesday while playing in his first game after a knee injury, raising questions about potential hiccups in his return. The source suspects it's probably just maintenance but flags it as something to monitor. Sampson's presence has reduced Judkins' route participation rate and eating into his first and second down passing role.

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Elijah Mitchell

NegativeRole29:25

Source bid for Mitchell in waiver wire; Mitchell was elevated from practice squad but then placed back on practice squad, suggesting unclear role or depth chart status heading into Week 8.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveRole10:10

The source identifies Jarrett Wilson as obviously awesome in Geno Smith's receiving corps, part of the rationale for starting Smith against the Raiders. Wilson is positioned as a key pass catcher in an improved offensive arsenal.

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PositiveProjection62:02

Confirmed as a must-start wide receiver in Week 8; recent narrative suggests strong connection with quarterback after locker room conversation.

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Geno Smith

PositiveProjection9:57

The source recommends starting Geno Smith against the Raiders, who have given up the sixth most points to opposing quarterbacks this season. While noting it's a revenge game, the source's primary rationale is the Raiders' poor pass defense and Smith's improved receiving corps including Jarrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, and two tight ends. Smith is ranked top 14 across the panel (11th for Dave, 11th for Heath, 14th for Jamie), ahead of Caleb Williams in the source's preference.

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PositiveProjection61:12

Ranked 14th by Jamie and 11th by Heath in Week 8 QB rankings; Heath prefers Geno Smith over Cousins in this matchup against the Jets, who rank 17th in pass defense.

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Harold Fannin

NegativeMatchup14:36

Harold Fannin Jr. is ranked 14th (Jamie) or 15th (Heath) depending on the source, with Dave ranking him 10th. The Steelers have not allowed a touchdown to a tight end in the last three games; Fannin scored against them in week four.

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Hunter Henry

PositiveProjection5:00

Listed as a must-start player for Week 8; the source references making 'personal Hunter Henry history,' suggesting strong confidence in his upcoming performance.

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PositiveProjection5:01

Hunter Henry is ranked top eight for all analysts in Week 8 against Miami; the source and team like him a lot this week. The Dolphins have allowed 15.8 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every game, creating favorable matchup conditions.

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PositiveProjection7:15

Scored double-digit PPR fantasy points in four straight games, a streak he has never extended to five straight games; source believes he will make history by extending the streak; playing against Miami Dolphins, ranked number three in most fantasy points allowed to tight ends; coming off 7-for-70 game last week with two touchdowns in last three outings; ranked top five tight end.

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NegativeProjection71:52

Hunter Henry is ranked in the start/sit discussion alongside Ramondre Stevenson, Ollie Gordon, and AJ Brown for Week 8, indicating he's in consideration for starting lineups.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeInjury31:09

Mispracticed but source is assuming he's fine.

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Jared Goff

PositiveProjection61:33

Ranked in the same tier as Cousins and Geno Smith in Week 8 QB rankings, placing him in the top-14 range for the week.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeInjury30:54

Mispracticed with a chest injury and is legitimately questionable; source notes 'We may not have Waddle this week' though he is hopeful.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveRole40:46

Warren is a must-start running back; easily preferred over Judkins as the lead option.

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PositiveValue54:49

Jalen Warren is presented as a strong option in a direct comparison with Basil Tootin, with the source indicating Warren is the preferred choice between the two running backs.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeInjury28:25

Limited in practice heading into Week 8 matchup against Dallas; injury status unclear but limited designation suggests availability concern.

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Jordan Love

NegativeProjection26:55

Mentioned alongside Lamar Jackson and Bryce Young in Week 8 start/sit decision context; no specific stance provided.

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Josh Downs

NegativeRole30:48

Wants a trade; source rates him as just a desperation flex despite Jaguars giving up fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers, citing uncertainty around his trade request status.

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NegativeRole51:29

Josh Downs is mentioned as a receiver the source wishes they had more faith in; the phrasing 'not quite there' indicates hesitation about his fantasy viability despite being on the Colts.

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Josh Jacobs

PositiveProjection9:09

The source recommends starting Josh Jacobs with reckless abandon against the Panthers, who are giving up over five yards per carry this season and have been run on successfully by Bucky Irving, Kenneth Gainwell, and Sean Tucker recently. The source frames this as a coming-out party for Jacobs despite not loving him as much as others.

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PositiveBreakout9:12

Expected to have a major game against Panthers, who are the worst run defense in the league, giving up over five yards per carry; Packers run offense has struggled all season but Panthers matchup is described as 'perfect cure'; recent backs Bucky Irving, Kenneth Gainwell, and Sean Tucker all had strong performances against Carolina; source is moving Jacobs up in rankings despite not loving him as much as others, calling it a 'coming out party' for him.

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PositiveProjection68:24

Josh Jacobs is ranked ahead of Breece Hall in Week 8, per the source's preference.

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Keenan Allen

PositiveProjection32:34

Source rates as high end number three wide receiver in Colts at Jaguars game; Jaguars give up fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers.

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NegativeRole51:29

Keenan Allen is classified as a number three wide receiver for the Colts, with the source expressing less faith in him compared to other options; he is included in the 'sit' recommendation for the Colts offense.

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Kenneth Gainwell

NegativeInjury29:55

Missed practice heading into Week 8; injury status and availability unclear.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveMatchup13:09

The source notes that Kenneth Walker has already run wild on the Broncos' defense, which is described as much better against the pass than the run, supporting the case for avoiding pass-dependent plays in the Chiefs-Broncos game.

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Kirk Cousins

PositiveProjection61:12

Ranked 10th by Jamie and 13th by Heath in Week 8 QB rankings; Jamie prefers Cousins over Geno Smith in this matchup against the Jets, who rank 17th in pass defense.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeProjection61:41

Ranked just barely behind Geno Smith in Week 8 QB rankings, placing him in the lower end of the top-14 range.

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Lamar Jackson

PositiveInjury26:55

Expected to play in Week 8; source confirms availability for start/sit decision.

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Mason Taylor

PositiveUsage74:21

Mason Taylor has been playing much better with six targets in each of the last two games coming off a two touchdown game; the Raiders are terrible against tight ends, ranking in the top five in most fantasy points allowed to the position.

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Matthew Golden

NegativeInjury3:08

Questionable for Thursday night; status uncertain but the source is hopeful he will play. Injury update pending confirmation.

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PositiveInjury8:15

Listed as questionable but there is optimism he will play; Green Bay is expecting him to play according to NFL on-prime insider James Palmer; Carolina has been preparing for him on short week, indicating expectation of his availability.

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Michael Mayer

PositiveRole75:05

Michael Mayer gets back involved against a much different defense than the Rams; Mayer is the traditional tight end for the offense and prior to last week averaged 12.2 PPR points or more in three of his previous four games, suggesting he could be more involved and productive.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeInjury29:34

Limited with injured ribs.

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NegativeInjury30:45

Limited in practice with injured ribs heading into Week 8; availability and role unclear.

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Ollie Gordon II

NegativeUsage70:42

Allie Gordon runs 60% of routes, which is great for receiving opportunity, but he doesn't catch the ball much. The source notes that part of this is because the Dolphins have been competitive, but if they fall behind, Gordon could see three or four catches since he runs such a high route rate. Malik Willis hasn't really been throwing to his running backs except with A-Chan, who was middle of the pack in running back target rate.

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PositiveProjection71:48

Ollie Gordon has been excellent since getting his role; he has a touchdown in four straight games. Despite the Patriots' run defense being above average, the source ranks Gordon highly and notes that every team has tried to stop him but he runs through them. The source calls Gordon one of their biggest misses this season for not being more aggressive on the waiver wire pickup.

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PositiveValue72:23

The source's ranking of Ollie Gordon is pretty much identical across the panel. Gordon is ranked ahead of Ramondre Stevenson (who is ranked 18th or 19th at RB). In non-PPR, Gordon is easily preferred over Breece Hall if Hall plays; in full PPR, Hall is probably close but Gordon is still the lean.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

PositiveBreakout10:20

The source identifies Omar Cooper as emerging in the battle for second-best rookie wide receiver this season and definitely in contention for that distinction. Cooper has been awesome the last two weeks in Geno Smith's offense.

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NegativeProjection62:41

Ranked ahead of Jeremy Bernard but right behind Trey Tucker in Week 8 receiver rankings; described as a headache for one the source in start/sit decisions.

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PositiveProjection75:35

Omar Cooper has only played three games and averaged 19.1 yards per target, which is unsustainably elite; while he's been awesome with 12 targets over the last two games, the source is cautious about expecting continued high target volume given Garrett Wilson's presence in the offense and historical patterns of rookie receivers falling off after a couple of games.

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Parker Washington

NegativeUsage10:49

The source notes that Parker Washington had the same number of targets as Brenton Strange in the last three Jacksonville games, indicating concentrated target distribution in the Jaguars' pass offense.

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PositiveBreakout52:29

Parker Washington has scored four touchdowns with high degree-of-difficulty plays; the source watched the film and noted each touchdown was impressive and not fluky, suggesting sustainable target volume despite dropping a key pass against the Texans. The source is not concerned about unsustainability because Washington is consistently getting opportunities.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeProjection12:42

The source recommends avoiding Patrick Mahomes this week, citing a bad performance last week against Seattle and noting he hasn't been throwing the ball a lot. The Broncos' defense is described as much better against the pass than the run, and Kenneth Walker has already run wild on them.

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Quinshon Judkins

NegativeRole40:49

Judkins is ranked inside the top 24 and likely to be started, but the source is not super optimistic about his outlook. The key concern is Dylan Sampson's role as the pass-catching back; if Sampson is consistently the pass-catcher, that limits Judkins' upside. Route participation rate went way down last week with Sampson back, and Sampson ate into Judkins' first and second down passing role. Judkins has only one target all year on third down. However, if Sampson is unavailable (he mispracticed Wednesday after a knee injury), Judkins should be great. In the last meeting between these teams, Judkins had a huge game catching the ball with four to five catches on five to six targets.

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Rashee Rice

NegativeInjury31:02

Limited in practice; playing at Denver; source notes he has already basically said he doesn't want to start.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

NegativeUsage70:59

Ramondre Stevenson had only six carries last week. The source's biggest fear is that the game turns into a blowout, which could result in fourth-quarter Corey Kiner usage again, limiting Stevenson's opportunities.

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PositiveMatchup71:48

Ramondre Stevenson has a better matchup than Ollie Gordon and has been as productive as Gordon while being more involved in the passing game. The source would lean Stevenson over Gordon based on matchup advantage and passing game involvement.

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Rico Dowdle

PositiveUsage46:33

Rico Dowdle ran really well last week and has involvement in the passing game; he has nine catches in his last two games. Not yet a start over the wide receivers discussed, but something to keep an eye on. The source is really close to starting him over Boston.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeInjury29:05

Missed practice heading into Week 8; source expresses skepticism about his availability, stating 'I can't sit here and just take Saquon Barkley at his word that he's going to play right now' after Monday night performance, and notes 'there's no guarantee he's going to make it through the game' even if he does play.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeInjury30:48

Mispracticed but expected to practice today.

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Tony Pollard

PositiveProjection47:20

In a Judkins vs. Pollard start-sit decision, Pollard is preferred, likely due to backup running back status or role considerations.

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NegativeDepth Chart47:29

The source notes that Pollard's backup is Spears, who missed the game last week, providing context for backup running back availability.

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Tre Harris

NegativeInjury31:13

Limited in practice.

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Tre Tucker

PositiveProjection62:12

Identified as the second-best receiver in the Jets offense; ranked ahead of Jeremy Bernard and Omar Cooper Jr., though very close to DK Metcalf in tier.

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Trevor Lawrence

NegativeProjection4:18

Start of the week against the Colts; coming off bye week with 35.3 fantasy points against Houston and 25.7 points in three of his last four games. Has strong historical matchup against Colts with 23.1+ points in each of his last three meetings. Colts have allowed three quarterbacks this season to go over 26 fantasy points. Concern is the Jaguars may not need to push hard against the inept Colts offense, but Brian Thomas showcase game should help Lawrence's stats.

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PositiveProjection8:28

Ranked fifth by Jamie and third by Heath among quarterbacks for Week 8 start-sit analysis, indicating strong recommendation as a must-start player.

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PositiveProjection51:29

Trevor Lawrence is ranked as a top five quarterback for the week, indicating strong fantasy production expectations against the Colts.

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Treylon Burks

NegativeInjury30:51

Limited in practice; plays Sunday night against the Eagles.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveInjury32:00

Limited in practice; source says 'That's good to see.'

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PositiveRole51:29

Tyler Warren is positioned as a must-start tight end for the Colts matchup; the source explicitly states 'if Tyler Warren plays' in the context of sitting the Colts, indicating Warren is the exception and a priority start.

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2:46We're talking Cleveland and Pittsburgh. We're talking Indianapolis and Jacksonville.
2:50The Raiders are at the Jets. Do we have two quarterbacks worth starting in that game?
2:55The Patriots are at Miami. Do we have one quarterback worth starting in that game?
2:59Kansas City's at Denver. Do we have zero quarterbacks worth starting in that game?
3:04Tennessee at Cincinnati. Baltimore at Buffalo. Welcome to fantasy football today presented by HIMS.
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3:12Be confident. Be him. Okay. It's Thursday, October 29th.
3:14And this is the worst show that we're ever going to do.
3:18It finally dawned on me why. Oh, you didn't get it all day yesterday?
3:23No, I didn't. Yeah, today sucks. I thought you just hated Heath as usual.
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3:31Yesterday was great. Today's, you know, Heath, do you know why today is terrible?
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3:44And we're going to, throughout the show, we're going to set it free.
3:48We'll get to that in a minute. Thursday night, injury updates.
3:52We'll get to that in like 10 minutes. Matthew Golden is questionable for tonight.
3:56So we're just going to have to keep an eye on it.
4:00If he's good to go, I'm sure we're going to play him.
4:04If we get a snap count thing, then, you know, check Twitter or something.
4:08We'll try to update you, but we just don't know right now.
4:12We're hopeful that he's going to play. But the Panthers will be without two starting offensive linemen.
4:17You know about their right tackle, Taylor Moten. They played most of the year without him, but he's out for the year.
4:24But also Damian Lewis, their starting left guard, is going to be out today.
4:29And Dave pointed out that the Panthers allowed a 42% pass rush pressure rate when the Bucs did not blitz on Sunday.
4:36So that's pretty bad. And edge rusher for the Panthers, Jalen Phillips, is out today.
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4:58Rashad White, that's a bold one, against the Eagles Sunday night.
5:01And Hunter Henry, who's going to try to make personal Hunter Henry history.
5:05Like that alliteration? As your players, you'll have Trevor Lawrence, Rashad White, Hunter Henry history.
5:10Oh, are you doing the Trey Tucker thing with Hunter Henry?
5:13A little bit, yeah. Good, good, good. Go ahead, Jamie.
5:17Yeah, Lawrence's start of the week, coming off his bye week last time we saw him.
5:22He's got him, 35.3 fantasy points against Houston, 25.7 points in three of his last four games.
5:27And he has a great history against the Colts, 23.1 points in each of his last three meetings.
5:3323.1 or more in each of his last three meetings.
5:36Colts have allowed three quarterbacks this season to go over 26 fantasy points.
5:40I think Lawrence is going to have an opportunity here to have another big outing.
5:45The only concern, and we've seen this a couple times with Trevor Lawrence, is that they don't have to push the pedal
5:52a little bit because of the inept Colts offense that we're probably going to see.
5:56But I think Trevor Lawrence has still a big game in front of him.
6:01And I do think, I don't think you could start him based on this, but I do think you're going to get a Brian Thomas showcase game.
6:09And that should help Trevor Lawrence's stats as well because obviously that's how Thomas is going to get the ball.
6:15For Rashad White, look, 11.1 PPR points or more in three of his last four games.
6:20He's going to be the lead running back, as we know, coming off the bye week, still for at least three more games.
6:28I hope he performs well enough that he keeps the job and doesn't lose it.
6:32But you're still talking about Austin Eckler and Jeremy McNichols as the competition.
6:37And I think that should allow Rashad White to have a good game.
6:41This Eagles defense is obviously falling apart. They have a lot of running backs to score at least 10.8 PPR points in five games in a row.
6:49So I think that's kind of the floor of that 11-point range for him.
6:54Three guys, though, Kyron Williams, Chuba Hubbard, Javante Williams.
6:56Clearly Rashad White's not in their range of talent, but scored at least 19.1 PPR points.
7:01So I think that's an opportunity for him to hopefully stay hot.
7:05And then for Hunter Henry, as you referenced, I'm assuming you're saying he's not going to have a good game for five games in a row.
7:13He has never caught a touchdown in five straight games.
7:17Oh, no, wait. Hold on. I'll tell you. Well, he didn't catch a touchdown last week.
7:22So, no, it's not that. Hunter Henry has scored double-digit PPR fantasy points in four straight games.
7:27He has never done that in five straight games.
7:30And I think he's got it, Jamie. I think he's going to make Hunter Henry history.
7:35I think he's going to also. You know, here come the Miami Dolphins, number three in most fantasy points allowed to the position.
7:42He's, as you said, playing well. 11 PPR points or more in four straight games.
7:47Coming off a 7-for-70 game last week. Two touchdowns in his last three outings.
7:51So I think it's a chance for him to be really productive once again.
7:56Top five tight end for me. Top five. Wow.
7:58So is that ahead of— I start him over Loveland, for example.
8:02Oh, my. I would, too. Well, against Seattle. That makes sense.
8:06You said you would, too, Heath? Yeah. Okay. Would you start him over Tucker Craft?
8:10Yeah. I have Craft four, so no. By the way— Especially if Golden's out or limited.
8:15A tweet here from James Palmer. And James is a NFL on-prime insider.
8:19So he says, Matthew Golden listed as questionable. There's a lot of optimism.
8:24He's good to go. Green Bay is expecting him to play, I'm told.
8:28And Carolina has been preparing for Matthew Golden on this short week.
8:31So that is a sigh of relief. Good news to start week eight.
8:36And listen, there is some bad news in week eight as well.
8:39Because this is the worst show that we're ever doing.
8:42But, Heath, who are the three players that you love?
8:46Just to recap, Jamie had Trevor Lawrence, who he has ranked fifth.
8:49And Heath has ranked third. Jamie has Rashad White, who he has ranked 23rd.
8:54And Heath also has 23rd. And Dave has him 24th.
8:57So it's a good start for Rashad White. It is not like he is an absolute must-start slam dunk.
9:03But he's a top 24 guy. And then they both like Hunter Henry.
9:07All right, Heath, how about you? You know who the Panthers should be preparing for?
9:12Josh Jacobs. We are going to see a lot of Josh Jacobs tonight.
9:16Good, you know, dipping his toe in the water game last week.
9:20Loved the pass game involvement. But this is going to be like the Forrest Gump leg braces game.
9:25Leg braces falling off game for the Packers run offense.
9:28They have not been able to run the ball at all, all season long.
9:33The Panthers are the perfect cure for that. Giving up over five yards per carry this season.
9:38They're awful against the run. And Bucky Irving just ran wild on them.
9:42Kenneth Gainwell just ran wild on them. Sean Tucker had a 50-yard run or maybe 45 against them last week.
9:49Coming out party for Josh Jacobs. I don't even love him as much as everybody else.
9:54I'm going to move him up. Start Josh Jacobs with reckless abandon.
9:57Start Geno Smith. It's a revenge game. We haven't talked enough about revenge games this season.
10:02But it's a revenge game for Geno Smith. That's not why I'm starting him.
10:07I'm starting him because the Raiders are terrible against quarterbacks.
10:10They've given up the sixth most points to opposing quarterbacks.
10:13And Geno has suddenly a fantastic cast of pass catchers.
10:16Jarrett Wilson's obviously awesome. I think it's a get-right week for him.
10:20Omar Cooper is emerging in the battle for who can be the second-best rookie-wide receiver this season.
10:25He's definitely in contention. Has been awesome the last two weeks.
10:29He has two tight ends. He's still got Adonai Mitchell who gets open.
10:33But didn't matter last week. And then start Brenton Strange.
10:36The three games before Jacksonville went on by. I think I'm alone on this one.
10:41Ben, it's probably because Jacksonville is going to beat Indianapolis so easily they won't throw enough passes.
10:46But the three games before they went on by.
10:49This pass offense got a little bit more concentrated.
10:52And it was two guys. It was Parker Washington.
10:55It was Brenton Strange. They actually had the same number of targets in the last three Jacksonville games.
11:00So I think you can start both of those guys in the pass offense.
11:05Yeah, Brenton Strange has been good. I don't know if you said this, but three straight games with seven to eight targets.
11:12Did you say that? I said that he had the same number of targets as Parker Washington the last three games.
11:18Yeah, that's pretty good. And, you know, I don't know.
11:21This is good. And the Colts are 19th against tight ends.
11:25Colts, like, they're not statistically as bad against positions as I kind of in my mind feel like they are.
11:31But I do think the Jaguars should have a pretty good game against them.
11:36All right. So for Heath, it's Geno Smith against the Raiders.
11:39He is top 14 for everyone. And 14th for Jamie, 11th for Dave, 11th for Heath.
11:44The question with every, you know, questionable quarterback this week is Goff, Caleb Williams, or that guy.
11:49How would you rank those three? I have Smith over Williams.
11:53I currently have Goff over Smith, but I may change it.
11:56I have it Goff, Smith, Williams. Okay. That's what Jamie has right now as well.
12:01But he might change that. Josh Jacobs against the Panthers tonight and Brenton Strange against the Colts.
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12:37I really encourage you to use it. All right, Heath, who are you avoiding this week?
12:42I'd like to stay away from most of the Chiefs and Broncos game.
12:46But in particular, I've got stay away from Patrick Mahomes.
12:49Bad last week against Seattle. Hasn't been throwing the ball a lot.
12:53Kenneth Walker's already run wild on this defense. Once much better pass defense than it is a run defense.
12:59This is nothing, I guess, that outlandish because we've all got him ranked 20th or worse.
13:04Sports line a little higher at 16th. But I do not, I would definitely start Geno Smith way, way, way over Patrick
13:11Mahomes and a couple other streamers as well. On the other side of that game, I would stay away from the Broncos offense.
13:18This, or Broncos running backs. I could say Broncos offense.
13:22Broncos running backs. This has turned into one of those backfields where I think, and maybe somebody else has more certainty.
13:28But it's just like the grossest three-man split you could think of.
13:32And we really don't, like, I wouldn't, you could tell me that Jonah Coleman's going to be the lead back this week.
13:39I would believe you. You could tell me that J.K.
13:42Dobbins is going to be the lead back. I would believe you.
13:46You could tell me the Broncos can't run the football against the Chiefs.
13:50And so, R.J. Harvey's going to be the best back.
13:53I would believe you. They're all flexes at best.
13:56I don't want to start any of them. And then, as good as he was last week, I would stay away from Harold Fann.
14:03And I know he scored 11 points against the Steelers.
14:07The last time they faced, he had three catches for 27 yards.
14:10I am not optimistic about the Browns offense in this game.
14:14K.C. Concepcion is really emerging. And I don't want to start Denzel Boston either, but he's going to be a factor.
14:20I actually think that Brown-Steelers game is one of the toughest ones to preview.
14:25It's got the most, like, questionable, not the most, but a lot of questionable players.
14:30Like, do we start them right on the border?
14:32And that's why it's going to be the first game we break down.
14:36Jamie, three players to avoid for you. Heath had Mahomes, the Denver running backs, and Harold Fannin Jr.
14:42You have Caleb Williams at Seattle on Monday night, which is giving me fits.
14:47And Tony Pollard at Cincinnati and Jamison Williams against Minnesota, which is giving me even more fits.
14:52I appreciate you taking those tough ones here in that Bears game and that Lions game.
14:57But Caleb Pollard and Jamison Williams. The latter two are not necessarily avoids, just don't love.
15:02You know, so it's hard to bench two players like that.
15:05Caleb Williams, though, because of his position, I think you can get away from him.
15:10And I know, I think the perception of Caleb is, wow, he's been awesome.
15:15And he has at times. But he's played four games, and two of them he's been under 20 fantasy points.
15:21So while he's played well, sometimes the fantasy production just hasn't been there.
15:25And now you're taking on Seattle. They've allowed only two quarterbacks to go over 20 fantasy points.
15:30It was, in my opinion, the flu-looking Marcos Mariota game.
15:33And Brock Purdy barely got over 20 fantasy points, and that's Brock Purdy.
15:38So I think Caleb is going to kind of hover in that range.
15:42I just don't think he's going to have a great performance because of Seattle's defense.
15:46So if you can avoid starting Caleb, I would do so.
15:50Pollard is a little bit tricky because he's coming off this monster game.
15:54And when he's been involved in a passing game, he's been great.
15:58And this is a defense that's sort of been a little up and down against running backs.
16:03But I think we saw last week when you're facing a suspect passing attack, and you know what this team is going
16:10to try and do when the Titans are going to try to run the ball.
16:15They just dominated Derrick Henry. So I think it's going to be a little bit tougher for Pollard.
16:20If he doesn't score and doesn't get the catches, then I think it's going to be a rough game for him, which
16:27we've seen a few times where he's actually run well but just hasn't given you the fantasy production.
16:33So more of a low-end number two running back for me.
16:36And kind of the same thing with Jameson Williams.
16:39Not the best history against Minnesota and Brian Flores, as you would suspect.
16:43I suspect only one touchdown, actually only one game with double digits and PPR in the five meetings that he's faced.
16:50Flores, he actually missed one of the games of the six meetings that these two teams have had.
16:56And so Jameson has been awesome the last three games, four touchdowns in his last two outings.
17:01But as we know, this is a Minnesota defense that's been great.
17:05You know, you touched on this. Four passing touchdowns in their last 15 games going back to last season.
17:11Only two wide receivers have scored touchdowns against them this year.
17:14So it's a little bit difficult to trust Jameson if he's not finding the end zone.
17:19I just don't think it's going to be a great game for him.
17:23So was I wrong about it? I had it, not that it matters, four in the last 14 games.
17:29So it was nine last year and six this year.
17:32Okay. I think it's 14. I really hope it's 14 because I...
17:36I actually, because you said 14, I was like, I could have sworn you said 14.
17:41But it was... All right, producers. Four touchdown passes against the Vikings in their last how many games.
17:47This is for all the marbles. Extremely important stuff here.
17:50Anyway, yeah, I can't wait to talk about those games tomorrow.
17:54Tony Pollard, by the way, I think you have back-to-back with Rashad White, right?
17:58And I would start White over in PPR. Non-PPR, I'd go Pollard.
18:02Heath, I'm going to give you the last word because you had Pollard 14th.
18:06And he is... This is one of those weeks where I'm getting my rankings a little bit more updated after the show today.
18:13So he is 18th for me now, tied with Sportsline.
18:16And I think a big key probably is TyJ Spears, who did not practice on Wednesday.
18:22Pollard's involvement in the passing game spiked without Spears last week.
18:25If he has the involvement in the passing game, I think he's pretty close to a must-start RB2.
18:31If he doesn't, then I think he's closer to where Jamie has him.
18:35And in the 20s, like, Jamie's saying, sit him and it's kind of a get away from him if you can.
18:41But it's not like there's definitely 25 running backs you want to start over him.
18:46And there's also the game script thing. They've lost only two...
18:50They've only been, like, blown out twice. And I don't even know if I'd called week one against the Jets a blowout.
18:56The Titans lost by 13 to the Jets. In that game, they had 10 running back carries.
19:02They lost by 23 to Houston. In that game, they had 17 running back carries, which would be great if they all went to Pollard.
19:10But they're not all going to go to Pollard.
19:13They've actually been very competitive in their other five games.
19:16They've all been one-score games. So he's been getting a lot of work.
19:20But, you know, like, Bengals, they might run away with it.
19:23We'll see. And that's not good for Tony Pollard.
19:26I also... I know it's a weird narrative to sort of attach to a fantasy angle.
19:31But if they are going to trade him, do they showcase him?
19:35Or was that his showcase game last week? Or do they put him on ice for a little bit because they don't want to get hurt?
19:43Yeah, that's a good point. All right. Well, we've got to take a break.
19:47I've got to tell you a couple things first.
19:50Then we'll take a break. First of all, FFT Dynasty.
19:53Make sure you're listening to it. Great show. Hosted by Heath.
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20:13First, the Red Hot Bills host the Ravens. What a great way to start things off, huh?
20:18While the Browns and the Steelers battle for the top spot in the AFC North.
20:23Huge game. And then it's a division showdown out west when Patrick Mahomes leads the Chiefs into Denver against Bo Nix and the Broncos.
20:30JB and the guys kick things off at noon Eastern live in Denver with the NFL today.
20:36We will see you Sunday with the NFL on CBS and streaming on Paramount+.
20:40This is an awesome slate of games this week.
20:43I can't wait. And we'll take a break. And then we'll tell you why this is the worst show of the year,
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24:09Today is not a show. I love seeing the different versions of your hair in all the ads.
24:14You look so young. I thought you recorded that like seven years ago.
24:18Listen, guys, today's not a show I've been looking forward to.
24:22And I mean that in all sincerity. It's been about two weeks now where I've had this date circled.
24:28I just can't even like, did y'all see the clip of Charles Barkley kind of weeping because Ernie Johnson said it was
24:35going to be his last year hosting inside the NBA?
24:38It's kind of how I feel right now. Today is Thomas Schaefer's last day with us.
24:43Not on earth, but with us here on Fantasy Football today.
24:46And we're going to pay tribute to Thomas Schaefer throughout the show.
24:50But I legitimately am pretty emotional about this. You don't know what it's like to have this extremely calming.
24:56Well, maybe you do. Hopefully you do. Extremely calming, steady presence in your life.
25:01And that's what Thomas is because this show is fun, but the job can be a little chaotic.
25:06And Thomas has just, he like keeps us on schedule.
25:09And he's always so chill. And it's super important in this job.
25:13And he takes a lot of stress out of my life and I'm sure everybody else's life.
25:19And we are going to freaking miss him. And our show has grown so much since he took over as producer.
25:25So stay tuned because every game today has a Thomas Schaefer stat of the day, stat of the game.
25:31So we'll be doing that. We'll hear from him, I hope, at some point.
25:36But guys, I was not looking forward to today.
25:38And here it is. No, you're right. I mean, it's always difficult when you lose somebody from our work family, you know,
25:45to go on to, I think for him, bigger and better things.
25:49You know, as Heath alluded to, you know, you love something, you set it free.
25:54And, you know, it's been an honor to work with Thomas, to work for Thomas in a lot of ways, you know,
26:01and to have him guide the ship. You know, he's awesome.
26:04And, you know, we're all rooting for him in his next venture.
26:08And, you know, thankfully he's groomed Sam to take over.
26:11And we're excited for Sam's tenure. But obviously, you know, we're going to miss Thomas.
26:16And I did my last ad read with him yesterday when I got off the stream yard.
26:21I was like, oh, man, this is, you know, the patience that this guy has with me.
26:26You know, amazing. So we love you, Thomas. We're going to, you know, we're going to miss you a lot.
26:33Yes, you know, I just want to focus on the positive.
26:36Really happy for him. And I guess more importantly, does this mean Johnny Airport's not going to be in the chat anymore?
26:43I love it. All right. Plenty more Thomas. Oh, there he is.
26:47Yeah, just real quick. No, it's been so fun to work with you guys.
26:51I've been watching and consuming fantasy content and specifically fantasy football today.
26:55Jamie and Dave's articles when I was in middle school.
26:58So it's totally been full circle not to like date you guys, but it really, really has been crazy to work with you.
27:06Learn from Azer. Launch FFT Dynasty with Heath. So it's definitely bittersweet.
27:09But I guess the one thing I won't really miss is all the breaking news podcasts.
27:14But I'm really, really hoping that when I turn in my equipment today, about five minutes later, we get Jonathan Taylor to the Minnesota Vikings.
27:22And then I just wash my hands of it completely.
27:25You can't. Come on, Thomas. You can't. It's fantastic.
27:28That's great, man. Yeah. Thomas. Yeah. Those breaking news podcasts.
27:31It's like something happens. The producers, Thomas and Sam, they have to create a show, basically.
27:36A YouTube thumbnail link and all that. Get us going.
27:40Produce it and edit it. Get it up quickly there.
27:43Oh, gosh. At Thomas' next job, all the stories will start off.
27:46Quote, I used to work with this guy named Adam and he would.
27:51Yes, definitely. He's going to have a lot of stories, no doubt.
27:54Johnny Airport just said today's our last thing. All right.
27:57News and notes. Lamar Jackson expected to play. So if you have Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, and Bryce Young, what are you guys doing?
28:05Playing Lamar Jackson. Or Lamar Thomas. I was about to say that.
28:09Okay. The Chargers are sticking with Mike McDaniels as their offensive coordinator.
28:13I love Mike McDaniel. Yep. I wrote Mike McDaniels.
28:15I wrote Mike McDaniels. And what did I say?
28:18Josh or Mike? You said Mike. With an S?
28:21Yeah. Mike McDaniel as their offensive coordinator. Jeremiah Love was limited.
28:25Tyler Algier mispracticed. They're at Dallas this week. Jameer Gibbs mispracticed with a shoulder injury.
28:29Also, Amon Ross St. Brown mispracticed. But those guys are expected to be playing against Minnesota.
28:34Saquon Barkley mispracticed. And Damian Pierce is on IR.
28:37And I know I put in some bids for Elijah Mitchell.
28:41And I have no idea if I got him.
28:43You did in one league. Yeah. I think it's interesting, though, that they elevated Jadon Blue.
28:48And they put Mitchell back on the practice squad.
28:51Great. Yeah. I hope that's... I think that's just procedural.
28:54But it was just a little weird. But I can't sit here and just take Saquon Barkley at his word that he's going to play right now.
29:03So, after what we saw on Monday night. Even if he does play.
29:07I mean, there's no guarantee he's going to make it through the game.
29:11Yeah. Kenneth Gainwell mispracticed. Aaron Jones mispracticed. We probably expected that.
29:15We'll call him day-to-day for now. And Brees Hall and Braylon Allen were limited.
29:19And I offered Heath, Brees Hall, and Braylon Allen for Bejal Tootin.
29:23And he hasn't hit any button yet. So, we'll see.
29:26Decline. You're really trying to trade away the Jets.
29:29Yeah. I am. You should probably... As Heath was talking about both Gino Smith and Patrick Mahomes.
29:34That league where you offered me Jordan Love and Brees Hall for DeAndre Swift.
29:38I have Gino Smith and Patrick Mahomes. And I'm just going to stick with Gino.
29:43Be fine. Okay. Good luck. You should probably try to trade Brees Hall to somebody that you haven't been telling for the
29:50last month that you're really worried about Brees Hall.
29:53You don't listen to me. You don't care. Michael Wilson limited with injured ribs.
29:57Carnell Tate mispracticed with a shoulder injury. Devontae Adams could be back at the shorter end of the six to ten week timeline.
30:05DJ Moore practiced. We're very hopeful that Moore will play.
30:08Non-contact jersey though. Yeah. Yeah, that sucks. But hopefully he gets back out there, gets practicing with the...
30:13If you follow his timeline, it was every week, the two weeks that he missed, it was non-contact jersey on Friday.
30:20And then they would rule him out. So, this is a positive sign that it's at the start of the week, at least.
30:27It'd be nice to see him in a full practice on Thursday.
30:31And I just realized that... Right, right. So, we can make decisions or whatever by...
30:36Well, I don't know. We're going to start Coker McMillan over him and Golden and Watson anyway.
30:41You have no wide receiver decisions that you're starting everybody.
30:44Yeah. I... Forget it. Whatever. Moving on. Jalen Knowles out for the season.
30:48That sucks. Josh Downs wants a trade. Stefan Diggs mispracticed.
30:51He's expected to practice today. Traylon Burks was limited.
30:54They play Sunday night against the Eagles. Jalen Waddle mispracticed with a chest injury.
30:59He's legitimately questionable. We may not have Waddle this week.
31:02He's hopeful though. Rasheed Rice though, he was limited.
31:05And they're at Denver. And he's already basically said he doesn't want to start.
31:09Many players in that game. Jamar Chase mispracticed. Assuming he's fine.
31:13Lad McConkie and Trey Harris were limited, I believe.
31:15Emeka Abuka was limited. It's good stuff when these guys who are coming off...
31:20So, Abuka is also a non-contact jersey. And McConkie, surprisingly, is still in the concussion protocol.
31:25Yeah. But obviously trending in the right direction. I thought the Bulls quote about Abuka didn't sound as positive as I was hoping for.
31:32He just said he has to do more than he's doing to get ready to play.
31:37That was yesterday or that was Monday? I thought that was yesterday.
31:41Okay. Because I know he said something at the beginning of the week, Monday or Tuesday, that was a little bit more pessimistic.
31:48And then he showed up at practice yesterday. Okay.
31:51And Dontavion Wicks and Devante Smith both missed practice.
31:54So did Colby. There was a walk. There was a walkthrough.
31:58It wasn't actually official practice. Colby Parkinson missed practice.
32:00Let's see. Tyler Warren was limited. That's good to see.
32:04And then at the offensive line, nothing too major here.
32:07Chiefs are getting a little healthier. Patrick Sertan looks like he's going to play this week.
32:12Trent McDuffie practiced for the Rams. So that's cool.
32:15Carlton Davis practiced. So we might get three very good cornerbacks back this week.
32:19Sertan, McDuffie, and Carlton Davis for the Patriots. All right, guys.
32:22We're a little behind today. Let's get through one question for each game here.
32:27Jamie, Cleveland's at Pittsburgh. Do we like the wide receivers in this game?
32:31DK, yes. Bernard is a flex. Concepcion is a flex.
32:34Start them in three receiver leagues. Boston probably still starting in three receiver leagues, but he's the one that I'm the most concerned about.
32:42Heath, Colts are at the Jaguars. And the Jaguars, I said this on yesterday's show, but it's very surprising.
32:48They give up the fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers.
32:51So how do we feel about Keenan Allen and Josh Downs?
32:55I've got Keenan Allen as a high end number three wide receiver.
32:58And Josh Downs is just kind of a desperation flex.
33:01I don't, I don't know. Like we have the squeaky wheel.
33:05Oh, meter. I'm not sure where request requesting a trade is at on that meter.
33:10But yes, yeah, it's, it's super squeaky, but he's not asking for more targets.
33:14He's asking for a new team. So I think Keenan Allen's the only one you would start.
33:19He's a number three. And if you want to, you know, if you want to squeaky wheel, you got to do a Garrett Wilson did.
33:27Say you want to stay on the team, but you want more targets.
33:31That's kind of what we're looking at here. Would you rather start Keenan Allen or a Browns wide receiver?
33:37I've got Keenan Allen the highest. Yeah, I think I'm really close between Concepcion and Allen.
33:42And as I'm thinking about it, I probably would prefer Allen.
33:46So I have to double check that Raiders are at the jets.
33:50Garrett Wilson, I assume is the highest ranked receiver in this game.
33:53Who's the second ranked receiver in this game. I'll go back to you, Heath.
33:58It is for me currently Trey Tucker. And I know everybody's worried about a fool.
34:03Jew. He's never had three good games in a row.
34:06He had also never had two good games in a row.
34:09But listen, I think you could start Tucker or Cooper as a number three wide receiver.
34:14Okay. And look, it's not like Omar Cooper Jr.
34:17couldn't fool Jew either. He's got 11. He has a very similar profile the last two weeks.
34:22He's just been awesome with it. Yeah. I told Jamie this on who has more, but Heath, did you know that Omar Cooper Jr.
34:30has more 50 yard receptions than the Los Angeles Rams?
34:33How about that? Yeah. I believe that. Two to one.
34:36Yeah. The Patriots are at the Dolphins. Jamie, who's the best flex?
34:40AJ Brown, Ali Gordon, or Ramondre Stevenson? Ramondre. I mean, the Dolphins are on defenses.
34:45Tried and true awful. So I think this is another opportunity for Ramondre to come out.
34:50And look, it was fluky last week how he got his 22 PPR points with only six carries, I believe it was.
34:57He had five catches, 93 yards. But the big play, the 48 yard touchdown at the end of the half, you know, pushed him over the top there.
35:05I just think that this is, he's still the lead running back and the Dolphins can't stop anybody on the ground.
35:12Okay. So then AJ Brown or Ali Gordon? I would go Ali Gordon, two.
35:16Hunter Henry, three. AJ Brown, four. Oh my gosh.
35:19Really? Yeah. Wow. Okay. Dolphins are like top five against receivers.
35:23We'll talk about that later. Kansas City's at Denver.
35:26Heath, would you start anyone other than Ken Walker and the DSTs?
35:29I'm still starting Travis Kelsey. Not necessarily excitedly, but he's a start.
35:33Broncos are 23rd against tight ends. What about Rasheed Rice if he plays?
35:37He will be in the number three wide receiver conversation.
35:40Ahead of Keenan Allen? Probably not. Wow. Really? Okay.
35:43Tennessee's at Cincinnati. Jamie, Tony Pollard or Chase Brown?
35:46I'd go Chase Brown. You know, this feels like a get right spot for him.
35:51I think he's going to get the work like we saw last week.
35:55Hopefully he does get the end zone opportunities, goal line opportunities.
35:58And like I told you earlier, I think it's going to be a little bit of a difficult game for Pollard.
36:05This run defense has been very good. They're actually number three in fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs.
36:11Now, some guys have had success against them, but I just think of Pollard as two receptions or less.
36:17That's been the number. I know it's small, but that's been the number.
36:21He hasn't been great. And so like Keith alluded to, if TyJ Spears, Spears misses almost every Wednesday practice.
36:27So that's not really a thing that we have to worry about now.
36:31But if he does miss the game, then that helps Tony Pollard's case.
36:35Baltimore's at Buffalo. We're expecting a big one here, a bonanza.
36:39And I realized that Lamar Jackson and Zay Flowers have not played a full game together yet.
36:44So let's get that going. Get ready. 30 points per game.
36:48And Dalton Kincaid, starter sit. He had eight targets in his last game, Heath.
36:52And the Ravens see the fewest tight end targets per game in the NFL.
36:57Starter sit Kincaid. This may be the strongest consensus we've had all season.
37:01He is the most borderline startable tight end that you've ever seen.
37:0413th for everyone, 12th for Sportsline. I would start Hunter Henry over him for sure.
37:09I'd start Chico Conqua over him for sure. I would start Brenton Strange over him personally.
37:14So probably more of a sit than a start, but not a run away from.
37:19And we're going to find out, Adam, your theory.
37:22If DJ Moore plays, is he better? What? That's my theory?
37:25You said that you thought he... I think that was my theory.
37:29Oh, I'm sorry. Excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Heath's theory.
37:32I apologize. Can I show you guys a Zay Flowers clip real quick?
37:36I think it was actually Peyton Manning's theory. I can't show this.
37:40Never mind. I forgot. I'm not allowed to show that.
37:43Go on Twitter. I posted a clip of DJ Turner trying to cover Zay Flowers, which he barely did, by the way, in week seven.
37:51But he got so burned by Flowers that he tried to push him when he was behind him just out of desperation.
37:58It was crazy. And he didn't shadow him. I don't know if Flowers even had a catch.
38:03I think he had one catch on Turner. But it was crazy trying to watch this really good cornerback follow Flowers, who is...
38:11He looks like the fastest player in NFL history right now.
38:14Cleveland at Pittsburgh. All right. Here's your Thomas Schaefer stat of the game.
38:18We asked some of the producers in CBS who have worked with Thomas for some fun facts about Thomas Schaefer.
38:24So I don't know how true they are. But here we go.
38:28Thomas Schaefer stat of the game. Thomas worked at the Golf Channel before joining CBS Sports, and he consistently breaks 80 golfing.
38:35And that's great because Dan broke 80 like one time, and he told the entire world about it.
38:41Anyway, let's go. There it is. Look at that.
38:44Look at that wristwatch with the 77 on it.
38:46That's very cool. Deshaun Watson is a sit. He did throw for 308 yards.
38:51But how about the other quarterback, Jamie? I mean, do we have any faith in Aaron Rodgers?
38:56The last time he played Cleveland, he had a massive game, and he's been good most weeks.
39:02He has been good most weeks, and he was about two feet shy of another big game, another touchdown last week when
39:08DK Metcalf didn't find the end zone. They may have scored a touchdown.
39:13He may have thrown the touchdown to Darnell Washington after that, but he's playing well.
39:1720 more fantasy points in four of his last five games.
39:21And like you said, the best game he's had this season was against the Browns.
39:25In week four, he did throw three touchdowns. He also had 10 receptions in that game.
39:30So I think he's okay as a streamer. There's just so many good streamers this week that have better matchups.
39:37You have Jacoby Brissett. You have Geno Smith. You have still Kirk Cousins.
39:41You know, so these guys are in good spots.
39:44I would actually, just because of the matchups, take a chance on Kyler Murray over Aaron Rodgers this week.
39:50And I'm probably in the minority there. But I just, you know, trust this Detroit defense to allow a lot of fantasy points.
39:57Sure. So Cleveland's not, I think, a layup, despite what he did against them last time.
40:02But I also think that they're going to give him a little bit of a problem.
40:07So I could see lean on Jalen Moore and lean on Rico Dowdle, have a little bit of a field goal fest
40:14and not necessarily a huge game for Aaron Rodgers.
40:17Do you have him or Caleb higher? I have Caleb higher.
40:20I got Caleb one spot higher too, so. Cool.
40:23And then how would you compare, like, every time I see some flashes from Quinchon Judkins, I get excited.
40:29It wouldn't shock me if he just went on a good run here.
40:33But the Steelers are really good against the run.
40:363.64 yards per carry. They do allow a lot of receiving yards to running backs.
40:41But I assume everyone's going to, I assume most people are going to start Jalen Warren.
40:46Heath, how would you compare Warren versus Judkins? Warren versus Judkins?
40:49Yeah. Is it easily Warren? Warren is a must-start running back.
40:53Judkins, like the way that Jamie described Tony Pollard, I think is exactly how I feel about Quinchon Judkins.
40:59You're probably going to start him. He is ranked inside the top 24.
41:03I am not super optimistic. But it would be really interesting to see a second week with him and Dylan Sampson.
41:09And does Judkins get any targets? Because if Sampson's consistently the pass-catching guy, that's a problem.
41:14So the last time these two teams met, Judkins had a huge game catching the ball.
41:19I think it was four catches on five targets, five on six targets.
41:23Sampson mispracticed Wednesday. So playing in his first game after the knee injury, you wonder if there's some sort of a hiccup there.
41:31My guess is it's probably just maintenance, but something to keep an eye on.
41:35Very similar to the Pollard-Spears situation. If there is no Spears, Judkins should be great.
41:40And to your point, Adam, it was week four, very good game.
41:44Week five, looked like he was playing well, gets injured.
41:47Week six, misses, comes back week seven, and he's great again.
41:50You know, so Judkins, I think, was starting to build towards something and then, you know, suffered the ankle injury, I think it was?
41:58Yeah. Yeah. And he's had, like, if we look at Pittsburgh as a tough matchup, he has not run well this year in the tougher matchups.
42:06Jacksonville, 12 carries, 33 yards. Tampa Bay, 12 carries, 21 yards.
42:09Pittsburgh, 17 carries, 53 yards and a touchdown. But he did have those six catches for 43 yards.
42:15Route participation rate went way down last week with Dylan Sampson back.
42:19It's not a third down thing. He's got a lot of, he's got some catches this year, Judkins.
42:25He has one target all year on third down.
42:27Down. It's the first and second down passing role that I think Sampson ate into a little bit.
42:33So that's a big injury we'll keep an eye on.
42:36I think we expect Sampson to play, but. Yeah.
42:39All right. But he's still a start. And then that brings us to the receivers.
42:44And I don't know, Jamie, if you want to expand on it, you said Metcalf was a start.
42:49Everyone else is kind of in that flex discussion here.
42:53It's these guys are going to be tough calls.
42:55I don't really know why Aaron Rodgers didn't throw to his wide receivers last week.
43:00He just threw to his running backs a ton.
43:03But what are we expecting from the four receivers who we're going to get a lot of questions about this week?
43:10Metcalf, I think, has just been very steady. You know, and I think you make a case, you know, he had a
43:16better game prior to the Saints game. I forget how they played when he had 15 targets and 11 catches.
43:23So his fantasy production was better. I thought the Browns game was his best game, you know, just in terms of how
43:30he performed and what his production was. So could you get something similar?
43:34I don't think this Cleveland secondary has exactly played lights out where you're running away from opposing receivers against them.
43:40And so to your point, will he involve his receivers enough?
43:43I think he just sort of the way I'm approaching it as like I was all in on them last week.
43:50I didn't trust the Saints defense. I thought it was going to be a continuation of what we saw from Rodgers.
43:57He's going to go in the spotlight game and, you know, throw the ball over the place.
44:02And it was the run game was just so dominant.
44:05So I think you just treat DK Metcalf as a number two receiver and hope that the targets continue to be there for him.
44:13And Jeremy Bernard, you just take a little bit of a step back just from what we saw last week and still trust him in three receiver leagues.
44:22You just don't consider him a must-start guy in two receiver leagues, which is where I had him last week.
44:28So would you start in PPR? Would you start Judkins or these wide receivers?
44:32The wide receivers in PPR. Just unless Samson's out.
44:35If Samson's out, it's a different story. Yeah. And then for Concepcion, look, his best game prior to.
44:41All four of the wide receivers or just the Steelers?
44:44No, the Steelers. Just the Steelers. I think for the Browns guys, I think you asked about both.
44:50I'm sorry. Yeah. For the Browns guys, look, Concepcion, six or more targets in five of his last six games.
44:56The one time where he didn't do it was the Jets game where he suffered a concussion early in the game.
45:02His best game prior to last week was the Steelers game.
45:06He had 11.4 PPR points in that game. So I think he's going to be in that similar range.
45:12He's very difficult to trust in nine and a half PPR because of the lack of touchdowns.
45:17He hasn't scored one yet in the season. And Boston, one of his best games was against the Steelers.
45:23But he's really struggled since then. He does have a touchdown in one of his last three games.
45:29But the Steelers, the last time they allowed a touchdown was the Browns game in week four.
45:34The last three teams that they faced, they haven't given up.
45:38I'm sorry. They've given up one touchdown to a wide receiver in the last three games.
45:43It was Devon Bailey last week. So they've done a much better job just in limiting opposing receivers.
45:48And I think Boston and the targets were there from last week.
45:52It's just like how he's talked about the Broncos running backs.
45:56And he touched on this a little bit with the fan and sit.
46:00It's you can tell me fans going to have a good game.
46:04Sure. You can tell me Concepcion. Sure. Like I would buy any scenario of one of these guys playing well.
46:10I just don't think we've seen enough consistency to say this guy is trustworthy yet.
46:15So Boston with a step back and Concepcion with a step forward, I'm going to lean on the guy that the targets have been consistent for.
46:23So I'll start Concepcion over Boston this week. And Boston was actually having a terrible game against the Steelers.
46:29They ended up with four for 89. He had a 60-yard gain on busted coverage.
46:33And he basically is just reliant on big plays every week.
46:37It's hard to trust. There's also Rico Dowdle. Would you start Rico Dowdle over any of the wide receivers?
46:43Not yet. But he did run really well last week.
46:46And I like the involvement in the passing game too.
46:49So just something to keep an eye on. I think he has nine catches in his last two games.
46:55I'm really close to him over Boston. And then Harold Fannin Jr.
46:59We talked about at the top of the show.
47:02I'm sorry. I got it confused. The thing I said about the touchdowns was the tight ends.
47:07Fannin scored against them in week four. They have not allowed a touchdown to a tight end in the last three games.
47:14Okay. Fannin is 14th and 15th for Heath and Jamie.
47:17Dave is no. 14th for Jamie. 15th for Heath.
47:20Dave is higher. Has him 10th. Let's read some questions here.
47:23DK or Coker. We're going Coker, right? Yep. Yep.
47:26Boston or Dowdle. Just did that. So pretty close.
47:29Judkins or Pollard? Judkins for me, but. Which backup plays?
47:32Probably Pollard for me. I didn't realize that. I didn't think Samson was injured.
47:37I feel like this may be just a maintenance day.
47:40I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just telling you missed practice Wednesday.
47:44Yeah. Whereas with Pollard's backup Spears. Like Spears missed the game last week.
47:48Lad or Jeremy Bernard? I would go Lad if he plays.
47:51I would go Jeremy. Judkins, Bird, and Boston. Pick one.
47:54PPR, I'd still go Bird unless Samson's out. Yep.
47:57Cooper or Concepcion? Cooper. It's Concepcion for me. I still like, I see Cooper and I'm just like, what?
48:03Who? Oh. Amari. Yeah. Right. Judkins or Corum? Judkins.
48:06Judkins, yeah. Going to start Coker over Judkins? Yep.
48:09Yeah. Samson, Dowdle, or Harvey? Dowdle. Yep. I would go Harvey and PPR.
48:13Harvey. Yeah. I mean, look, things can change week to week.
48:16Last week, he had just a terrible role. Coleman ate into both running backs' roles.
48:21It sucked. And, all right. Bernard or Hawkinson? Orlad.
48:24Oh, Orlad. I didn't see that. I might go Hawkinson.
48:27I have Bernard. Browns DST or Broncos DST? Broncos.
48:30Broncos. You know, the numbers wouldn't really support that, honestly.
48:33The Browns DST has been good almost every week, and including against the Steelers, they get a ton of sacks.
48:39In fact, you guys have the Steelers ranked ahead of the Browns.
48:43I had a tough call with them because I had a lot of the Browns from last week.
48:49And, you know, but the Browns give up the second most fantasy points of DST, so that does make sense.
48:55I'm just worried with how bad the Browns' run defense has been that the Steelers just hand off 30 times.
49:01Yeah, that's true. It's their Achilles heel. All right, we'll be right back with another Thomas Schaefer stat of the game as
49:08we get into the Colts and the Jaguars after this.
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51:11Thomas Schaefer, stat of the game. Thomas once won a Nintendo Switch at a holiday party.
51:16Look at that. Look at the hair. The free-flowing hair.
51:19That is a genuinely excited, happy person. Good times.
51:22Good times. I wish I had been at that holiday party.
51:26Okay. Sit the Colts except for Taylor. What if Tyler Warren plays?
51:29We going right back to him? Yeah. Yeah. And don't just sit Keenan Allen and, you know, we had talked about him earlier.
51:37We talked about him during one question for each game, but he's a number three wide receiver.
51:42We wish we had as much faith in Josh Downs.
51:45Not quite there. And, um, all right. Trevor Lawrence is a top five quarterback.
51:49You know, I went back and I watched Parker Washington's touchdowns.
51:53If anybody has a chance to watch the four touchdowns, Parker.
51:56They're insane. Every one of them was like a high degree of difficulty.
52:00It's incredible. And he dropped one against the Texans, right?
52:04Did he? I don't remember. He dropped a key pass.
52:07I don't remember if it was a touchdown. Does that make you nervous?
52:11Like he's doing things that are unsustainable? Um, not with the targets being there.
52:15You know, I think the, if there was like, he's, he's, um, trying to think of like, if he's Denzel Boston-ing the,
52:22his games, you know, like these, these fluky plays or last, you know, desperation scenarios, then yes, I'd be concerned.
52:28But I mean, he's consistently getting opportunities. If you want to hear about Trevor Lawrence, that's at the top of the show.
52:35The players we love. Basil Tootin has a good matchup.
52:39The Colts, they allow the seventh most receiving yards per game.
52:42The running backs, they allow 4.5 yards per carry to running backs.
52:46They should be good for, uh, for Basil Tootin.
52:49He's the top 18 running back. Jalen Warren or Basil Tootin?
52:52Oh, that's a great question. Cause I struggle with that one, but Warren, are you laughing about who has more?
52:58You know, me? Yeah. You just want you, that was a great way to bring that up.
53:04You wanted to, oh. Yeah, it's this. Who has more hair, Thomas or Trevor Lawrence?
53:08Well, it's Trevor Lawrence now, but I think of that picture.
53:12It may have been Thomas. Um, all right. I'm sorry.
53:15I interrupted you, but the good one from the chat there.
53:18Okay. Anyway, start Tootin. Jacoby Myers or Keenan Allen?
53:21Who do you guys prefer? Uh, that's a great one.
53:24I'd probably lean Allen, but it's close. Yeah. I mean, when, when Myers gets targeted, you know, he's, he's good.
53:31Five catches for 83 yards on 10 targets. That was a shootout with Houston.
53:35This is a 10 point spread. We may not get a lot of pass attempts from Trevor Lawrence.
53:41Just that's something to keep in mind. And then there's the Travis Hunter factor.
53:45There's also the Brian Thomas factor. They're going to feature him this week.
53:49Well, I mean, if they, if they want to win, no, I hope he can catch the ball.
53:55He's just been playing based on what we've seen so far this season, throwing to him doesn't exactly make him look more appealing.
54:02Yeah. That's kind of true. Let me just check Travis Hunter's roster percentage here.
54:07He's an interesting guy. He could easily be the most added or the most drop player next week, but he's 8% rostered.
54:14So he probably won't be most drop. I added him in a couple of 14 team leagues.
54:19Um, just in case. Okay. Okay. And, um, Brenton strange.
54:22Yeah. Heath already made the case. The rankings are so different on this one.
54:26Brenton strange is sixth for Heath and 12th for Jamie and 14th for Dave.
54:31Jamie, why are you a little hesitant to start Brenton strange?
54:34Oh, there's just a lot of good tight ends this week.
54:38You know, so I think strange is a very good streamer.
54:41If he was dropped, I think if he's been your starter, you're happy to have him in this game.
54:47Like you said, it's been nine PPR points or more in three straight games.
54:52So that feels like the floor of the Colts have struggled with tight ends lately.
54:56So hopefully it's just another opportunity for him. Like he said, he's been getting those chances.
55:01And so anytime you're getting those opportunities, you're going to, I think have it for him.
55:06At least he's going to have the opportunity to, uh, to be productive.
55:11So again, you know, you like him better than he likes him better than some of the guys I have higher than him.
55:18That's totally fine. There's just a lot of good, I think Hawkinson and like I have Oconkel one spot ahead of them.
55:25Uh, obviously I'm very excited about Hunter Henry, you know?
55:28So these guys were available on waivers. I think strange is definitely in the conversation to be a start.
55:34All right, let's get to some chat questions here.
55:37Jonathan Taylor or Christian Watson in PPR? Unless you're concerned about them sitting Taylor, I'm playing Taylor.
55:42Yep. Jalen Warren or Bajal Tootin rest of season?
55:45Oh, I'm still going to go Warren. I would too.
55:48Brenton strange or Travis Kelsey and half PPR. I have Kelsey higher, but I can certainly see strange being better.
55:54I just barely have Kelsey higher. Okay. You have Kelsey.
55:57Oh, so you must really like Kelsey this week.
56:00He's, he's at the top of the, like, like Jamie said, like it's a, it's a big group.
56:06Once you get past the top really too, uh, especially with Kittle and likely not playing this week.
56:12Bajal Tootin, Chase Brown or Jalen Coker PPR? Uh, I go to.
56:15Me too. Me too. I, in PPR. I think I have Coker highest.
56:19I mean, that makes sense also. Uh, that's, that's the debate there.
56:23Not Chase Brown. PPR. No, DeForest Buckner is going to be big for this cold.
56:28That's true. Yeah. Yeah. And you could run on them before that.
56:32Yeah. Corum, Caleb Douglas or Brenton Strange PPR? Strange.
56:35Yeah. Yeah. Brenton Strange or Keon Coleman? I could, I could see Coleman if there's no DJ Moore.
56:40He's clearly been very successful in that role, but if DJ Moore plays, it's easily strange.
56:45Yeah. Yep. And Brenton Strange or Kyle Pitts? Ooh.
56:48Strange for me. Strange. Okay. Pitts just loves, loves playing this team.
56:52I, I, I've been looking forward to hearing the Kyle Pitts versus Tampa Bay stats.
56:57All I, I, I did a short bit in my tight end, um, column this week, but I knew that, uh, Jamie
57:04would have the full breakdown of it's, it's incredible.
57:06It's really incredible. Oh, right. The best tight end game ever last year.
57:10But it's not bad. It's, it's not. The last five games, he just absolutely destroyed them.
57:15Interesting. So did you say Pitts over Strange, Jamie?
57:18Oh, Pitts, you said there's two, three, there's three tight ends this week.
57:22Pitts is my third ranked tenant. I think coming, I think coming into this season, more than half of his touchdowns in
57:29his career had been against Tampa Bay. I love it.
57:32This is great stuff. Jaguars DSD is top two.
57:35Stardom. Raiders are at the Jets. Thomas Schaefer, stat of the game.
57:39Thomas to go over producing fantasy football today in August of 2022.
57:43He has been around for roughly 2,276 episodes and streams.
57:46Wow. That's a lot. I'd like to see the chart of FFT's growth under Thomas because he's done a fantastic job.
57:53The rocket ship emojis. Yep. Yes. Pretty much. Stat of the game that may not matter.
57:58Kirk Cousins in garbage time. He has scored about 16 and a half fantasy points in the fourth quarter in two straight games.
58:05Those games were against Buffalo and the Rams. And he scored about six to eight fantasy points in the first three quarters of those two games.
58:13They trailed by 10 at the beginning of the fourth quarter in one.
58:17They trailed by 22 at the beginning of the fourth quarter in the other.
58:22Does that matter at all? That he's garbage timed his way the last two weeks to production, Heath?
58:27I mean, does it matter for Jago B. Brissette that he's done it for the last year and a half?
58:34Well, it's just it's the difference between facing the Jets and facing the Bills and Rams.
58:39Right. No, I think I think it's a really tough decision.
58:42There's kind of three guys that are kind of in the same category for me.
58:47And it's Gino and it's Cousins and it's Brissette.
58:50And those three guys are all not far from QB 12.
58:53I rank them Gino, Cousins, Brissette. But I have a hard time arguing with ranking them in any order.
58:59I think in the case of Cousins, to your point, read the four teams that they've just lost to.
59:05Oh, you got the Chiefs, Bills, Rams and Patriots?
59:08Patriots. Like those are four really good teams. Yep.
59:11And so my concern with him, I said this going into last week, it's going to be my concern moving forward.
59:17They're going to bench him at some point. And if they stink against the Jets early, you may get Fernando Mendoza in this game.
59:25So just understand the risk with Kirk Cousins. It's the it's the higher risk, I think, than even Brissette getting benched.
59:31And there's certainly little risk with Gino getting benched.
59:34So just understand that if you're banking on Cousins.
59:37That being said, this is a game that they can win.
59:41They haven't had those chances. I know they've been in some games, but they haven't had those chances to go in and
59:47say, OK, we're going to be better. We're going to be the better team.
59:52And you can make a case that they're the better team.
59:55Now, with what's Gentie said yesterday, I don't know if that helps or hurts his cause.
60:00Where he basically said. We can run on this team.
60:04There's some guys over there that don't don't want to tackle.
60:07However, you phrase it. I mean, like that. That's that's rich coming from Ashton Gentty.
60:12It's extremely coming from. He should have said Mike Washington Jr.
60:15Can run on this team. There's some guys that don't want to tackle.
60:19I just think that they can't run the ball.
60:22And so the hope would be is that the 45 and a half stands and we get a shootout and we get Geno versus Cousins back and forth.
60:31And you're you're getting that type of production from him.
60:34It's just when you look at it there. Forget about the names.
60:38Bowers obviously is a different story and then still Gentie.
60:41But like Bowers points per game. Amazing. Gentie's points per game.
60:44Very solid. Cousins points per game. Amazing. And Trey Tucker's points per game.
60:49Extremely solid. They have a legit top four starting for in fantasy because Tucker's number two receiver.
60:54River and Gentie's a borderline number one running back.
60:57Cousins is a top 10 quarterback. So like if you're just taking that alone, you're starting Cousins and not even worried about it.
61:04And they faced the Chiefs and the Rams and the Patriots.
61:07Bills are a good matchup. But, you know, they've had some tough matchups.
61:12The Jets aren't really that. I don't think the Jets are a terrible defense.
61:16They are 17th against quarterbacks. They are 17th against running backs.
61:19They are 15th against wide receivers. And they're actually fifth best against tight ends.
61:24But they've struggled the last couple of weeks against that position.
61:27So they seem like a pretty average defense. And I don't know.
61:31This is really kind of a fascinating game with a lot of buzzworthy guys right now.
61:36And I think, you know, Cousins. So let me just look at the rankings updated here.
61:41Cousins is 10th for Jamie. And Geno is 14th.
61:44Cousins is 13th for Heath. And Geno is 11th.
61:47So top 14 for both of them, for both of you.
61:50But Jamie prefers Cousins. And Heath prefers Geno Smith.
61:53Jared Goff is like right there with those guys in that same range.
61:57And Brissette. And Brissette. Caleb Williams is just behind those guys.
62:01Kyler Murray is behind those guys, right? Yeah. Yes.
62:03Just barely behind Geno. And yeah, yeah. Okay. So that's those guys.
62:07We're going to start Ashton Gentry because he's so involved in the passing game.
62:12And I think I asked who the second best receiver is.
62:15And Heath, you said Trey Tucker. I did. Jamie said Cooper.
62:19Jamie said Cooper. No, no. I said Tucker. Oh, okay.
62:22I'm sorry. Yeah. Is Garrett Wilson a must start?
62:25Yes. Yeah. I mean, you had the shower narrative, right?
62:28Of what they came out. They came out of the locker room together after.
62:32They had a long conversation in the shower. Yeah.
62:35Okay. Um, the shower is the best place to do your thinking, right?
62:39It's the, you're just like the most clear, clear minded point of anyone's day.
62:43Um, I really need to shower after this episode.
62:46Wow. It's been a while. A side note. It's not like, I actually thought about this the last couple of weeks with
62:53your clothes narratives and like the socks that you were wearing the day before.
62:58And I was like trying to piece it together.
63:00Cause I was like, well, clearly he doesn't shower before bed and he doesn't shower when he wakes up.
63:06And those are kind of the two times a day that people shower.
63:10And so you just like, you shower on Thursday afternoons.
63:14It's really, it really varies. I was going to shower last night, but I, I, it got so late.
63:20So by the way, congratulations to the Brewers. If you're a Brewers fan, like this must be one of the best days of your life.
63:27Amazing stuff. Um, but I was up late last night.
63:31I didn't have a chance and I was going to shower this morning, but I had all the Thomas stuff to put in the notes.
63:38So, you know, after Thursday afternoon, showers don't take that long.
63:42They do for me. I, I, I guess if you do it once a week, you got to really scrub.
63:48Okay. Trey Tucker or DK Metcalf, Trey Tucker or Jeremy Bernard?
63:52I haven't met calf Tucker Bernard, but I could see somebody trusting Tucker more.
63:56It's fine. Yeah. I haven't met calf Bernard Tucker, but they are very, very close.
64:01And then where's Omar Cooper jr. Today, uh, ahead of Bernard, but right behind Tucker behind those guys.
64:06He's a headache for me. I mean, yeah. Yeah.
64:09Okay. I have him versus conception and I think we're going to get more targets in one of my leagues.
64:16We're going to get more targets. I think for conception, um, but this is a better matchup.
64:21This is yes. Cooper has the better matchup. I also think like there, there's a couple of sleeper plays here and clearly
64:28the jets running back is something worth monitoring because if.
64:31Yeah. We're going to talk about that. Brees all plays.
64:34I think you should start him. If Brees sells out, I think you start Bray Lowne.
64:39Allen could still be a sleeper though. If Brees all plays because of what the potential workload could be.
64:45And I think that there's two tight ends that could be considered sleepers here.
64:50Mason Taylor has been playing much better. He's got six targets each of the last two games coming off a two touchdown game.
64:57The Raiders terrible against that in top five, most fantasy points allowed to the position.
65:02And I do think Michael Mayer gets back involved here.
65:05This is not the Rams. This is a much different defense.
65:08Like you said, they've struggled the last two weeks and I don't think that's a Bauer stat.
65:14I think this is more of a mayor stat because mayor is more of the traditional tight end for them.
65:20So they've been bad and mayor prior to last week, 12.2 PPR points or more three of his previous four games.
65:26Wouldn't shock me if he's more involved in and productive.
65:30I will. I just want to say, cause I am the low guy I think on Cooper.
65:35Um, and it's not a dislike of him. Um, it's just in the projections process.
65:40Like if you average 10 yards per target, you are an elite wide receiver.
65:44Um, and it takes a couple of like months of that for me to believe you're going to continue doing it.
65:51Omar Cooper's only played three games. He's averaged 19.1 yards per target.
65:54Yeah. It like just insane. So like that 12 targets over the last two weeks, he's been awesome with them.
66:01Um, but if we're really expecting a squeaky wheel game from Garrett Wilson, I can't expect more targets from Cooper.
66:07Yeah. Yeah. And just something to keep in mind, like we haven't seen, unless I'm missing somebody, even Cardinal Tate, like these
66:14rookie receivers, they've given you a couple of games and then they fall off, you know?
66:19And so like it's happened to Denzel Boston. It happened with Jeremy Bernard.
66:23Um, you know, don't, don't get upset with Omar Cooper if he has a bad game here because there are, as he
66:30said, with the Geno Smith conversation earlier, this is an offense that has a lot of great pieces to it.
66:36But it's just, you know, you're, I think if I, if I saw it correctly, if the season ended today, they'd have
66:43three picks in the top 12, uh, in the NFL draft, like that's amazing and can easily go address their quarterback of the future.
66:51If they find the right guy, this team is going to be really fun.
66:55So would you, let's get to Brees Hall here.
66:58If he plays, would you start Brees Hall or Quinshawn Judkins?
67:01Hall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Would you start Brees Hall or Jalen Warren?
67:06Warren. Would you start Brees Hall or Bray or Bejal Tootin?
67:09Tootin. Tootin. Damn it. So just, just when you, uh, so I could make him force him to make the trade, but yeah, go ahead.
67:17If you, if you see the rankings, uh, one of us is going to have to make it or two of well, um, he's never chimed in.
67:25So Dave and I were on opposing ends of this, um, in our, in our ranking stuff.
67:31So I ranked Brees Hall. Dave did not. He sided with Dave and didn't say anything.
67:36Um, so that's why you see somebody posted in the comments.
67:39That's why you see Braylon Allen, uh, significantly higher for those two guys instead of me.
67:44We, we have this email thread and I've been just scrambling.
67:48And so I just saw the last message from Dave and I was just like, okay, I guess that's what we're doing.
67:55That was the last message. And then I looked at the rankings this morning and saw Jamie ranked him.
68:01So I will, uh, I'll weigh in on that.
68:03I mean, I feel like he was fairly close to playing last week.
68:08That's what my approach was. Starts with a limited practice.
68:11And he's not the only one of those guys.
68:14I think there's four of them. Aren't there, Jamie?
68:16Um, it was McConkie, Ibuka, DJ Moore, and Brees Hall.
68:20Adam, why don't you tell us whether we're ranking those guys or not?
68:24So I would rank McConkie and I would rank, I would definitely rank Brees Hall.
68:28He's the most confident. Uh, we don't generally rank guys in the concussion protocol.
68:33Well, then I didn't know that. Then just rank Brees Hall.
68:36Well, the way that I approached it was, uh, the fact when, when he practiced Monday, I thought hockey was playing.
68:43Yeah. I mean, the good news is I would start both Jacobs and Chuba Hubbard over Brees Hall.
68:48Yeah. And I would start at my guess over Braylon Allen, but it wouldn't surprise me if Braylon Allen were better if Brees Hall were out.
68:57So that's unfortunate, but. I don't think any of us, uh, I don't think the, the, the other two, um, Heath and
69:04Dave don't have Hall over anybody in tonight's game.
69:06Right. All right. New England's at Miami. Thomas Schaefer's out of the game.
69:11Thomas has been compared to the House of Dragon character with the foot fetish.
69:15He looks like that guy on House of the Dragon.
69:18Do we have a picture? Uh, there, that guy.
69:21Okay. No, that's an insult. That's an insult. Yeah.
69:24I can see it. I'll take it in stride though.
69:27Yeah. I guess. It can all be great stuff, Thomas.
69:30I mean. That's two, two people on our show that look like a House of the Dragon.
69:35Very, a very disappointing Halloween experience for me. I could not find an auto high, high tower costume anywhere.
69:41You don't need a high costume. Just get us closed.
69:45Water cooler side of the game is about Hunter Henry.
69:48Please tell me, by the way, you have the timeout photo somewhere.
69:51Ready to go. What timeout photo? When we started early and.
69:55Oh, no. I don't have that. Thomas' best moment.
69:58No, I'm sorry. I gave you a stat about Hunter Henry trying to make Hunter Henry history happen.
70:03Practical stat of the game though is that the Dolphins have allowed 15.8 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every game.
70:11That's wild. So, listen. Let's lay this one out.
70:14Drake May is obvious. You're going to start him.
70:17Hunter Henry, we've already talked about. The guys love him this week or like him a lot.
70:22Anyway, he's top eight for everyone. AJ Brown is a number two receiver.
70:26He's top 20, but just barely. Let's go, AJ Brown.
70:30I mean, the Dolphins third best against receivers, but that's because only two wide receivers have more than six targets against Miami.
70:36So, that's maybe one of the reasons why we're not thrilled with starting AJ Brown.
70:41Also, he's been terrible. But Ramondre. He showed up on injury report.
70:45What's that? He's done yesterday with a knee injury on top of the ankle injury.
70:50Who is? AJ Brown. Has a knee injury? And he had a knee injury when he did his physical this offseason, right?
70:57Right. I didn't see that. I'm sorry. But, yeah.
70:59Like, Ramondre only had six carries last week. My biggest fear, because I think I'm the lowest, the low guy on Ramondre,
71:06is I think we all expect this game to turn into a blowout.
71:10And my biggest fear is that we get fourth quarter Corey Kiner again.
71:15Maybe. We got little Corey Kiner last week. The one thing about the Dolphins is they haven't been getting blown out.
71:21No. That's true. But they have played the Raiders, the Niners, Chiefs, Vikings.
71:25Yeah. I mean, it's actually a pretty tough schedule.
71:28They haven't really been getting blown out. So, what's the spread here at seven?
71:32Yeah. That's good. On the road. That's big. The Dolphins got screwed, though, for this four o'clock game.
71:38You know? Oh, because it's not going to be as hot?
71:42Yeah. Yeah. So, with Ali Gordon, my concern is that he does run a lot of routes, but he doesn't catch the ball.
71:49And I think part of that is because they've been competitive.
71:52What happens if they fall behind here? Malik Willis hasn't really been throwing to his running backs, but he did with A-Chan.
71:59You know, he was about middle of the pack and running back target rate with A-Chan.
72:04I guess I could see if they fall behind.
72:07I could see three or four catches for Gordon because he runs 60% of the routes, which is great.
72:13But Jamie, earlier, he ranked it Ramondre, Gordon, A.J.
72:16Brown. Heath, how would you rank those three? No, no.
72:19Hunter Henry, A.J. Brown. So, Ramondre, Gordon, Henry Brown?
72:22Yes. Heath? I have Gordon, I think, at the top.
72:25Oh, wow. Okay. Go ahead. Discuss Gordon versus Ramondre.
72:28I mean, like, I don't, I get not wanting to buy it, but I just, it's hard to doubt as good as
72:35Ollie Gordon has been since he's gotten this role.
72:38And the Patriots run defense is probably above average, but I don't think they're great like they were last year.
72:44So, I just, I mean, as good as Ollie Gordon's been, I'm just, I'm just going to start him.
72:50Yeah, I agree. I think it's just one of those things.
72:53I just think Ramondre's matchup is better and he's been as productive as, as Gordon and certainly more involved in the passing game.
73:01So, that's why it's, for me, I would lean Stevenson.
73:04But I think just looking at it, like, Gordon's touchdowns and a touchdown in four straight games.
73:09Like you said, Heath, this run defense has not been as, you know, dominant.
73:13They're still very good. They're just not as dominant.
73:16Now, the one thing would be is like, they're going to make Malik Willis win this game.
73:22You know, they're going to stop through their best to stop Ollie Gordon.
73:26But every team has tried to stop Ollie Gordon and he just has run through them.
73:31You know, it's my biggest miss so far this season by far was that waiver wire week of not being more in
73:38on Ollie Gordon and kudos to him and people that bought into it.
73:42He's been amazing. And just to make the point, our ranking of Ollie Gordon is pretty much identical.
73:47The difference is Ramondre. Like, we all have him 18th or 19th of Raleigh.
73:52Yeah. Okay. So, Ollie Gordon or Brees Hall if Brees Hall plays?
73:56Easily in non-PPR, it's Gordon. Half, it's probably close.
73:58Full PPR, I probably would lean Hall, but I wouldn't.
74:02That's in pencil. I think Hall is probably, like, I'll have to do the projections once we get that, or I decide to rank him.
74:09But I'll probably put Hall just ahead of Gordon.
74:12Who's the best start in the Dolphins passing game, if there is one?
74:16I mean, this feels like Caleb Douglas is getting Christian Gonzalez.
74:20Yeah. Probably Malik Washington. I don't know if he will, but like...
74:24I think it'll be like a Doonze last week.
74:26Yeah, he just stick him on one side and...
74:29Like, I thought Carlton Davis would stay on one side of the field, and I think he pretty much...
74:35I mean, Christian Gonzalez, I think he pretty much did.
74:38It was a different side of the field than I thought.
74:42But Carlton Davis back in this game, so I imagine those guys just stay on one side.
74:47And that means that regardless of where Caleb Douglas lines up, he's going to be against a difficult corner.
74:53He lines up out wide like 90% of the time.
74:56But is Dolphins like a better start, or no?
74:59I don't want to chase that, but he could be.
75:02You know, I mean, this first time that we saw them all healthy, and Malik Washington struggled as a result.
75:09Yeah, but there's only two targets for Caleb. Three targets for Douglas and four for Chris Bell.
75:14But he's just... He's amazing. Like, he... You know, we...
75:17And I know I get a lot of pushback whenever I mention Pete's name, but like Prisco said after the draft, he's
75:24like, I know everybody likes Chris Bell. Caleb Douglas is going to be better.
75:28Yeah. I think... And I don't know if that's the case, but it's certainly the case right now.
75:34I think they could... You know, I think they could use...
75:38They could shadow him with Gonzalez. I guess it wouldn't shock me, because he...
75:42I feel like he's the key to winning this game for the Dolphins.
75:46They need a big play. I think the thing for me is, like, Malik Washington's in the slot half of his snaps.
75:53Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell are below 20% of their snaps.
75:56If I'm going to have to... I don't want to start any of the Dolphins wide receivers, but if I'm going to
76:03have to, I want to start the guy who's going to be on the slot the most, and it's Washington.
76:10He's the safest. Without question, he's the safest. I mean...
76:13Let me read the chat questions here. Corum or Ramondre?
76:16Ramondre. Yep. And then Corum or Burden? Burden. Burden.
76:19A.J. Brown or Zach Charbonnet? A.J. Again, he's a top 20 wide receiver, right?
76:23Stevenson or Rasheed Rice? Half PPR. Stevenson. A.J. Brown or Coker?
76:27Coker. Pats or Jags DST? Jags are number one for me.
76:30I think Patriots are two, so it's right there.
76:33I have the Jags two and the Patriots three.
76:36Okay. A.J. Brown or Braylon Allen? Half PPR. It's Allen easily if Breesall is out.
76:41It's Brown for me if Breesall's in. Agreed. Ladd McConkie or Caleb Douglas?
76:45Ladd. Caleb Douglas or Chris Godwin? PPR. Godwin if Abubazette.
76:48Okay. All right. Next game is... I mean, his target share was so amazing.
76:52Yeah. We have three games left? Ooh, that's... 45%.
76:55A lot of games left. Kansas City's at Denver.
76:58I think these games are pretty easy, though. Thomas Schaefer, stat of the game.
77:02Thomas is a massive Vikings fan. The team is 310, 243, and two in the regular season in his lifetime, but just 8-17 in the playoffs.
77:10Thomas, jump on here real quick. Do you think the Vikings are legit?
77:15Thomas is already on his new job. Oh, sorry.
77:17I'm sorry. I was trying to take the lower off.
77:21I mean, the defense is legit. I don't understand how bad this...
77:24How our offense is this bad. You know, the 2000 Ravens won with an offensive-minded coach, Brian Billick, and he was the Vikings OC with the 98 team.
77:33So, you know, maybe we have a legit shot.
77:36Actually, one of our research guys, Douglas Clawson, does an amazing job.
77:40He's amazing. Put together a packet about the Vikings and how they're basically, like, the most lopsided team in this century in
77:47terms of their EPA on defensive special teams versus offense.
77:50But then he compared them to other teams that were so much better on defensive special teams than offense, where it's like
77:57their offense is just dragging them down, basically, but they're really good.
78:00And those teams, including the 2000 Ravens, they were...
78:03Like, some of them went to the Super Bowl.
78:06Some of them won the Super Bowl. So, the Vikings might be legit.
78:10Where would you rank the Vikings in the NFC West?
78:13The NFC North's really good, too, but the Seahawks, 49ers, Rams, Vikings.
78:17I mean, I think quarterbacks like Stafford are the ones that can tear up the Vikings defense, and we've seen that in the past.
78:25So, I don't know. I think we would actually have more success against the Seahawks than the Rams, as crazy as that sounds.
78:32I don't know. I don't know. I've ranked that, though.
78:35Let's see what you're saying. And I don't know if you were asking me or the guys.
78:40Oh, it was definitely you. I don't want to look at them.
78:44Yeah. All right, let's get back to Kansas City and Denver here.
78:48We want to sit Patrick Mahomes. We're going to start Kenneth Walker.
78:52We'll come back to Rasheed Rice in a second.
78:55You guys have Travis Kelsey ranked as a starter.
78:57Kelsey... Wait, Heath, did you say you're going to move Kelsey?
79:01Yeah, I think he'd be like six. Oh, boy.
79:04I don't have that much confidence in him. I think I'm going to start Dallas Goddard over him if Devontae Smith doesn't play.
79:11And I don't have a lot of confidence in Dallas Goddard either.
79:15I don't know. That's only... They're right in the same neighborhood, for sure.
79:19Kelsey has a better chance to score a touchdown, for sure.
79:22And the Broncos have struggled against tight ends. They're 23rd against tight ends.
79:26They just got crushed by McBride. But also, Kelsey had 71 yards on five targets.
79:31Kittle had a good game. Higby had a very good game.
79:35This might be just a good... Maybe I'll start Kelsey.
79:38Kelsey had the big catch, if I'm not mistaken.
79:41Yeah, he did. Like an 80-yard catch or something?
79:43And I think Hufango's not going to play again.
79:46Okay. So Rasheed Rice is tough. I assume you'd start Rasheed Rice over any running back in this game for Denver.
79:53Yeah, he's safer. I mean, he did score a touchdown.
79:56I said safer, not safer. He scored a touchdown in the first game, but two catches for 19 yards.
80:02Would you start him over Jalen Waddle if Waddle plays?
80:05Yes. Would you start Waddle, period, if he plays?
80:08No. Okay. He's got back-to-back games with seven targets.
80:11That's not bad. Yes. And then Sean Payton tried to kill him on the reverse.
80:16Or should Bo Nex try to kill him? Excuse me.
80:19No, there's just enough body of work at this point.
80:22Like, the Chiefs defense is good. You know, when he's facing good matchups, then yes, maybe you go back to Jalen Waddle.
80:29It's frustrating. And now he's playing hurt again? And he had one catch for two yards on three targets in week one against the Chiefs.
80:37I mean, we're going to start to discuss who's the biggest bust this year, and Waddle's going to be on that list or close to it.
80:45If he's out, where would you rank Cortland Sutton?
80:48Number three receiver at best. 36. 36. If he is out and Rasheed Rice is out, is Xavier Worthy better than Cortland Sutton?
80:55Barely. Barely. If Rice is out. Look, Worthy had one great game and one terrible game in the two that Rice has missed.
81:02And the terrible game was against Seattle. Let me see if I have any chat questions here.
81:07But real quick on the DSTs. Oh, by the way, there's no way I would ever in a million years consider starting him.
81:15But if he has a good game, consider this a win for me, and then I called it.
81:20But Evan Ingram was actually good against the Chiefs in week one, and the Chiefs are absolutely terrible against tight ends.
81:27It's crazy. But yeah, I would never start him.
81:30But if he has a good game, you're welcome.
81:33Okay. Kelsey or Lad McConkie? Lad. Mahomes or Goff?
81:35Goff. Keeper League, would you keep Ken Walker or Thomas Schaefer?
81:39Schaefer. Yeah. Schaefer. AJ Brown, Rasheed Rice, or Luther Burden?
81:42Burden and Brown. I would sit Rice. Gross. This man has been on TV this week and had no shower?
81:48Maybe the Harry Potter cloak cloaked the... Oh, no.
81:51Please don't tell me you went to the city without showering.
81:55No, that's the last time I showered. Tuesday morning before I went to the show.
81:59Yeah. Oh, because I shave. You know, I have to look good.
82:03I have to actually look good for that show.
82:06Yeah. Maybe I'm weird. I don't remember the last time I went 48 hours without showering.
82:11Unless I was camping or something. This is very rare.
82:14Brissette or Mahomes? Brissette. Yeah. Brissette, Mahomes, or Kyler Murray?
82:17Brissette. Coleman or Dobbins? Coleman. Who knows? Listen, we don't have any idea.
82:21I saw somebody post, I don't know if it's ESPN's depth chart, fantasy something, whatever, but they list...
82:27I think it's not a fantasy thing, excuse me.
82:30They list Coleman as number one running back. And if you look at our projections from Sportsline, Coleman's the number one projected running back.
82:37So, again, I don't think anybody knows but Sean Payton at this point.
82:42But the momentum is definitely there for Coleman. I feel like Dobbins might still be the goal line back.
82:48That's my... Dobbins may still be their best back.
82:50I mean, it doesn't appear that way, but he could be.
82:54Okay, I got to do a little more Jonah Coleman.
82:57Jonah Coleman or Rico Dowdle? Coleman. It's Dowdle for me.
83:00Coleman or Corum? Corum. Corum. If both Vikings running backs play against the Lions, would you start Coleman over either Aaron Jones or Jordan Mason?
83:08I would consider it over Jones if he doesn't practice and then plays.
83:12Okay. All right, let's move on. Chiefs or Broncos DST, who do you like better?
83:17Broncos. Broncos. Chiefs allow the fewest fantasy points. They allow the fewest fantasy points to Chiefs to DSTs.
83:22And Broncos were bad against them in week one.
83:25Yeah. All right, Tennessee's at Cincinnati. Thomas Schaefer stat of the game.
83:29Thomas shares a birthday with Babe Ruth, Bob Marley, Axel Rose, and Rick Astley.
83:33Rick rolled you there. Did you know that, Thomas?
83:36I knew the Babe Ruth and Bob Marley one.
83:39Okay. I didn't know about Rick. Why would you?
83:42Okay. We talked a lot about Tony Pollard earlier in the show.
83:46Carnell Tate. Carnell Tate, Tony Pollard, Chase Brown. Rank them.
83:49Brown Tate, Pollard for me. Brown Pollard Tate. I wonder if Tate is going to get the DJ Turner treatment here.
83:56I don't know. Oh, you love the shadow. I would.
83:59Yeah. You love DJ Turner. Yeah. Are you related?
84:01He's not that good. He's not that good. You're related to DJ Turner, aren't you?
84:06He's not great. But I love a guy who shadows.
84:09And I thought for sure he'd shadow Zay Flowers because he did it twice last year.
84:14And he didn't do it at all in week seven.
84:18And look what happened. But that's on my mind.
84:20That's on my mind. So, all right. Carnell Tate.
84:23Wait, I'm sorry. Can you rank them again? I lost my train of thought there.
84:28The only thing I have is Pollard and Tate.
84:31Yep. Brown, Pollard, Tate for Heath. And Jamie, for you, it was what?
84:35Brown, Tate, Pollard. Brown, Tate, Pollard. And we're starting Chase Brown.
84:38Okay. Chase Brown or Bajal Tootin? Tootin. I've got Brown higher in full PPR.
84:43Chase Brown or AJ Brown? Chase. Chase. Okay. Start Joe Burrow.
84:46Start Chase. You like Chase this week? Chase, Jamar Chase.
84:49Start Tee Higgins. And... I just way overpaid for Chase in a guillotine league.
84:54What'd you pay? 400. But the next highest bid was like 285.
84:58Out of 1,000. Yeah. Yeah. But I almost got chopped last week.
85:01And I have so many week eight buys. It was like...
85:05I don't want to end up losing with my budget still in my...
85:09Still having money on my hands. I don't want to shortchange the game.
85:13But honestly, we talked a lot about Tony Pollard earlier today.
85:16And I think Chase Brown a little bit too.
85:19So I'm not going to just repeat it. Yep.
85:22So chat questions. Using Thomas as another excuse for Adam to sing and Rick Roll us.
85:27Okay. Pick one. DJ Moore, Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon.
85:30I'll take Moore if he plays than Tate, than Lemon.
85:33Yep. Adam Showers. I just killed that avatar, by the way.
85:37That's amazing. Which one? Oh, J-E. Yeah, I love it.
85:40Chase Brown, Ramondre Stevenson, or Rashad White? Ooh, tough one.
85:43Ramondre for me. Chase for me. Tony Pollard, Jonah Coleman, Eli Mitchell.
85:47Pollard. Yep. Next game. Last game. Thomas Schaefer. I feel like Mel must have like 50 leagues.
85:52Maybe. Thomas, this is your last game. Think about that.
85:55The last game that you're going to be... Your last preview game on FFT is Baltimore at Buffalo.
86:01We saved the best for last. Thomas Schaefer stat of the game.
86:05This is just from me. Thomas is... Wait, wait, wait, wait.
86:08How are we not doing the Vikings game today?
86:11Sorry. How did you screw that up? The bad job.
86:14Thomas is by... Wait, let me read the stat of the game.
86:18Thomas is by far the coolest member of the FFT crew and often helps me with young person terminology.
86:24And that is going to be very hard to replace.
86:27If he can only help you with air quotes.
86:30And let's see a little libido over there. There he is.
86:33Yeah. That's fantastic. Unofficial mascot. Oh, my God. He's still alive and kicking.
86:37He's 17... About to be 17 years old. Wow.
86:40He's going strong. What kind of dog is that?
86:43A Pomeranian. That's what I thought. I don't really know dogs very well.
86:47Very cute. His name is Labino. Not libido. And he's freaking adorable.
86:51But Sam's younger than me. So he'll be... He's got the words that I don't...
86:56I'm a little too old for this stuff. Sam is him.
86:59He knows the words. I was going to say, like, Thomas is just about aging out of the helping with the young guy.
87:06It's over. Once you start getting gray in your beard, you're cooked.
87:10Oh, yeah. I don't know anything about that. My 14-year-old and my 12-year-old had a conversation last night.
87:16I had no idea what they said. Really? Not a clue.
87:19Not one word made sense. Nothing. You got to learn.
87:22We got to reach a younger demographic. You got to learn.
87:26Are there any tough calls in this game? Ravens-Bills?
87:29Yeah. I mean, obviously, if DJ Moore plays, I think he's a number two receiver.
87:33If he's not, you're going to have some Keon Coleman-Kaliyo Shakir questions.
87:37But we don't know that yet. So if you have them, send them.
87:41But I think Coleman is a strong number three receiver.
87:44Look, he scored touchdowns three straight games. And I believe it's three of the five or four of the five that Moore
87:51has either left early or did not play. He scored at least all PPR points.
87:56So he's been very productive without Moore on the field.
87:59Now, will he be productive with Moore? That's the question.
88:02Shakir's got 11 PPR points or more in three straight games.
88:06Heath's theory on Kincaid with Moore could come to fruition here.
88:09As we saw the rankings, we all are a little bit concerned, but also a little bit encouraged by Kincaid, borderline starter.
88:16And I think for Baltimore, you kind of know you're starting the triplets, right?
88:20You're starting Jackson. You're starting Henry. You're starting Flowers.
88:23No matter what for the skill players, even if Huntley plays.
88:27This is kind of a prove-it week. Well, I wouldn't say that actually for Derek Henry because I know the Bills, they
88:34give up a ton of fantasy points to running backs, but they actually, so much of that is receiving.
88:40They are 3.6 yards per carrier to running backs, and they've done most of that without Ed Oliver.
88:45And I assume he could come back this week.
88:48He's missed much of the season. We're starting him.
88:51Of course you're starting Derek Henry, but it's not necessarily the best matchup for him.
88:56But Lamar Jackson seems to open things up for Derek Henry, of course.
89:00Yeah, Coleman. And right. If you have any Coleman questions, go ahead and fire away, but it's really dependent on DJ Moore.
89:07I was actually very surprised when I did the waiver wire Tuesday, how rostered Jacoby Lane is.
89:12Getting five targets, two straight games, but I think Huntley probably throws more than Lamar.
89:17Not as well, though. Well, I'm just saying, like, there's a lot of investment in Jacoby Lane.
89:2275% roster, 74% roster. And so I'm curious if he has a big game, like where the, like, is he the next guy?
89:29He could easily be the next guy. You know what I mean?
89:33This Bills defense is bad, and like, he could be, you know, there's two guys I think we'll talk about next Tuesday.
89:40If Lane has a big game, Malachi Fields is one, because he's played well and, or played well.
89:46Those could be the next two rookie receivers that we're eyeing.
89:49Yeah. All right. Let's read some questions here. Rishi Rice, DJ Moore, or Jamison Williams?
89:54Pick two. Sit Rice. Sit Rice. I think I'd sit Jamo.
89:57Is Jacoby Lane a start? Not yet, but clearly people are stashing him, and I get it.
90:03Lamar or Love, Warren or Kraft? Kraft. You have to play Kraft.
90:07Yep. And then I would go Lamar. Yep. Start Luther Burden, DJ Moore, or Matthew Golden?
90:12Golden if he plays. Yep. And if not, Burden or Moore?
90:15More. Burden if he plays. Michael Mayer or Mark Andrews?
90:18Mayer for me. Somebody in the chat was upset we didn't talk about Mark Andrews.
90:23Like, most weeks he's not as good as the other guy he's playing with, whether it's Cuevas or Hibner.
90:29I mean, has that been the case, though, with Lamar Jackson?
90:32I definitely could see him catching a touchdown. Well, Zay Flowers hasn't been healthy.
90:37That's true. Andrews has one touchdown on the season and two games over 10 PPR points.
90:42Kobe Lane or Jeremy Bernard? Jeremy Bernard. Okay. Casey Concepcion, Jamison Williams, or Keon Coleman?
90:47You sure it's Keon? No. I'm not, but let's do it.
90:50I would go J-Mo. I would go J-Mo also.
90:53Okay. But Coleman's been really good when DJ Moore's been out, except that game against the Rams where he had like three catches called back on penalties.
91:01Not that he would have been that good with them, but he's been really good.
91:06But that's the game he left. I think that's the only bad game that he had.
91:11No, that wasn't the game he left. That was...
91:14Moore didn't play in that one? No. I'm almost positive.
91:17I think you're right. Yeah. And by the way, four touchdowns in their last 14 games, boy.
91:22What's up now? Five in their last 15. That's according to Thomas.
91:26Don't doubt Thomas on his last day. Thomas! Can't thank you enough.
91:30The good thing, because I've lost touch with some of the guys who I was close with when we were working, like Thomas, like Ben Schrager.
91:38Great guy. We talk every now and then, but not that much.
91:42We just talk every single day. Here's why fantasy football is great.
91:46I am in several leagues with Thomas, including two dynasty leagues, or one or two.
91:50And I'm sure he'll stay in our leagues going forward.
91:54And we will keep touch through fantasy football. It's an amazing part of what we do here.
91:59But we're going to miss you more than you could even imagine, Thomas.
92:03So thanks for everything you've done over the last, what, five years?
92:07Amazing stuff. And that's it. I can't even. That's it.
92:10All right. Too emotional. You're the best, Thomas. Yeah.
92:13Yep. We love you. Appreciate you guys. It's been a fun ride.
92:17Yeah. That well said. Good stuff. I mean, look, at least we'll still have him in the chat with Johnny.
92:23Yeah. All right. See you later. I bet Thomas pops in every now and then.
92:28I hope so. That would be fun. All right.
92:30We'll talk to y'all tomorrow with a starter set for the NFC.
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