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2:06Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:09What's up, everybody? It's time to look at the waiver wire for Week 8 on Tuesday, October 27th.
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2:25Oh, Dave's leaving! Jeez, Dave's not him right now.
2:28No, no, I'm here. I'm here. Okay. Good morning, Jamie.
2:31I'm here. I'm good. Okay, he's back. He's back, Bulls.
2:34He's back. What's up, dude? Again, another one of those weeks where Jamie and I spoke on Monday afternoon.
2:40And, you know, last week it was Devontae Adams getting this long injury timeline and then Terry McLaurin getting hurt on Monday night.
2:47And this week we don't have anything like Adams, but we do have the Saquon Barkley injury that definitely makes things interesting.
2:54And the Damian Pierce injury as well as the Eagles, you know, lose two running backs last night.
2:59But what a crazy, gutty performance from Saquon Barkley.
3:02And I hope, for those of you who started him, I hope he got you enough fantasy points.
3:08You got to admire what he did. And then Pierce gets hurt late in the game and he's like, put me back in!
3:15And they wouldn't do it, but I hope he got you enough fantasy points because he was having such a good game and his absence really changed things.
3:23Anyway, let's talk about the waiver wire. Jamie, who are the top three priorities to get for week eight?
3:29I mean, there's a lot of ways this can go.
3:32You know, this can go what you need versus what can help you long term.
3:37So, to me, the most important player on this week's waiver wire is Seth McGowan because you may get a down-of-the-Taylor trade at any point.
3:44And if that happens, then McGowan becomes, I think, at least a flex, potentially a number two running back, potentially a must-start guy rest of season.
3:52Obviously, the Colts offense is struggling. Taylor's been, I'd say, fantastic despite the struggles.
3:57You know, had a big game against Minnesota on, you know, really the strength of one run.
4:02But clearly, you know what he's capable of doing.
4:05I don't think McGowan is John Taylor, has the potential to be John Taylor, but he's going to get a lot of
4:11work if, in fact, Taylor is traded. So, this may not happen for a couple of weeks.
4:17It may not happen at all. But if it does happen, there's a chance you might just be sitting on a potential lottery ticket.
4:24There's a bunch of rookie-wide receivers that are going to be relevant in week eight and beyond.
4:29Casey Concepcion's coming off a strong game. Caleb Douglas is coming off a strong game.
4:34Makai Lemon is coming off a strong game. They all have paths to being starting fantasy options and certainly being productive for their teams.
4:41So, I just put Concepcion at the top of the list because he's coming off a strong game where he's been, as
4:48we've noted prior to last week, you know, building towards something and it finally happened.
4:52And then you have the tight ends and the quarterbacks, which could be must-start options right away.
4:58Jacoby Brissett, Geno Smith, both have the chance to play very well in week eight.
5:02Hunter Henry, TJ Hawkinson, Chigozie Mokankwo. All these guys can be relevant fantasy options and starters for week eight.
5:08So, there's a lot of different ways you can go with this week's waiver wire.
5:13So, I kind of just put it as here's the running back, here's the receiver, here's the tight end.
5:18Pick your favorite option. Okay, and we do have some pretty significant players on by this week.
5:24We've got the Giants, the 49ers, the Saints, and the Texans on by.
5:28So, it's maybe particularly tough at tight end where you got two of the best tight ends in fantasy are out this week.
5:35And Juwan Johnson's been in a lot of lineups.
5:37I think he's going to be out of a lot of lineups going forward, but he's been, had been pretty reliable for a bit.
5:45Okay, so McGowan, Concepcion, Hunter Henry. And by the way, Hunter Henry, the Dolphins are 30th against tight ends.
5:51They've allowed nine points or more points to a tight end in every game.
5:55Then he gets the Packers, who are amazing against tight ends.
5:58But then after that, the Lions. So, two of his next three games for Hunter Henry are against two of the three
6:05worst teams against tight ends as of now. It's a little bit of a flimsy stat, but as of now, that's what it looks like.
6:13All right, Dave, who do you got? I'll just give you some other names because I really do think, I almost think
6:19like the top three list depends on how desperate you are for a tight end, how desperate you are for a wide receiver.
6:26I think Jamie kind of tried to like thread that needle with putting McGowan first, saying that he's a lottery ticket and
6:33we just don't know if Taylor's going to get traded anytime soon or not.
6:38Hawkinson is available in 46% of CBS Sports Leagues.
6:40He leads all Minnesota Vikings in red zone targets from Kyler Murray.
6:44He's interesting. I go back and forth between him versus Henry versus Okonkwo.
6:48I actually like all three of these tight ends, but I think Okonkwo is the one that's going to see the steady diet of targets.
6:56He's seen at least six in each of his last two with Jaden Daniels, and he's had at least 10 PPR points
7:02in each of his last two with Jaden Daniels.
7:05Just no red zone targets. I'm hoping that's fixed, and I'm hoping the commanders actually can get into the red zone a little bit more.
7:13Jamie talked about those other wide receivers. I don't have a really great running back to go with.
7:18So if you're desperate at running back, ooh, that was a good one.
7:22Dylan Sampson, who's out there in two-thirds of CBS Sports Leagues, got you 10 PPR points last week.
7:28He's probably the headliner as far as running backs to pick up and potentially use in week number eight.
7:34I don't know if I'm ready to go all in on Makai Lemon, speaking of the rookie receivers, just because I don't
7:40know how many Eagles pass catchers are going to be back, plus it's Tanner McKee.
7:45So I don't know. I'm kind of flummoxed here because I like a lot of players.
7:50I'm not sure that there's an in-a-vacuum top three.
7:53I honestly think we need to go with each different type of fantasy manager need right now, and then build the top three based on that.
8:01Now, clearly there is a threshold that we're talking about that's different for other sites.
8:05So Jonah Coleman, if he's available, must add across the board.
8:09Rashad White, if he's available, must add across the board.
8:12Omar Cooper Jr., if he's available, must add across the board.
8:15All three of those guys for us, Coleman's at 68 percent.
8:18Rashad White's at 72 percent. Omar Cooper Jr.'s at 81 percent.
8:22On other sites, they are widely available. Go make sure that those guys are not on the waiver wire and make them the most added players by far.
8:30Yes. Omar Cooper Jr. in Yahoo Leagues is 48 percent rostered.
8:34Rashad White, 56 percent. Jonah Coleman, 35 percent. Oh, yeah.
8:37Those are the headliners. Yeah. On Sleeper, Cooper's 75 percent rostered.
8:40Rashad White is 60 percent. Jonah Coleman is 39 percent.
8:43So if we call that our top three this week, Cooper, Rashad White, Jonah Coleman, how would you rank them?
8:49I would rank them, again, depending on what you need.
8:52Because if you go into week eight, you need a running back.
8:56I'm going to take Rashad White over Coleman. If I'm looking long term, I'm going to take Coleman over White.
9:02So it's kind of just dependent on, I think, what you're looking at here.
9:06I think Cooper's probably better than both just because at least what you've seen the last two weeks hopefully will be sustainable.
9:13Great matchup against the Raiders coming up in week eight.
9:16But, again, it's coming down to, I think, with a lot of where we are right now, if you're in a very
9:23good spot in your fantasy league, your roster is good.
9:26You've already passed. Remember, this is some fantasy league, some fantasy managers are hitting the bye week woes right now.
9:32Some have already been past it with what their roster may have dealt with with the teams that have already had their bye.
9:39So I think it's just contingent on how you're looking at your roster.
9:43If I'm looking long term, I'm going to prioritize guys like Antonio Williams and not necessarily over Concepcion and Douglas and those guys.
9:50Because I'm going to prioritize the rookies, let's say, over – like Dave got a great suggestion on Dylan Sampson.
9:56I'm going to prioritize Kalen Black over Rashad White potentially if I don't need Rashad White.
10:01Because if McCaffrey doesn't play in week nine or later, that's a superstar.
10:05So it comes down to, I guess, where you're sort of at with your roster.
10:10Short term versus long term. Now you can make a case, obviously, that Coleman short term is going to be good and
10:17long term is going to be great. Versus Rashad White, who may be good short term, but we know at least there's
10:23a path to success for him without Ja'Cory Kroski-Merrick there.
10:26So there's just a lot of different ways to break this down.
10:30It's a really fascinating week on the waiver wire.
10:33And I think you're getting to the point now where a lot of desperate teams.
10:37You know, two and six – or excuse me, two and – yeah.
10:41Two and five. One and six. Even three and four.
10:45You know, you're maybe just emptying the bank to try and save your team.
10:49Yes. I don't know if this is an empty the bank week, though, if I ask you guys how much fab we're spending here.
10:56Correct. It really does come down to what you need.
10:59But if this is final straw, like I'm desperate, desperate, desperate, like what's the rest of the season matter to?
11:05Right. I know, but I don't know that there's a guy who's going to fix my league.
11:11I mean, I think the – you know, I want to believe in Rashad White.
11:15But he hasn't had more than eight carries in a game all year, and he's only been the lead back once.
11:22But he's still only had seven carries in that game against San Francisco.
11:26I can't rely on him scoring a receiving touchdown.
11:28Philadelphia is obviously a pretty beatable matchup. I think we're seeing their defense just isn't very good.
11:34But like Jonah Coleman's not going to necessarily win me a week.
11:37He might be good long term, but this week I don't know that he's going to do much for me.
11:43I don't disagree with anything you're saying. But if you're just in one of those spots where you have McCaffrey and Woody
11:50Marks on bye, and you're looking at your running back situation, and it's – I don't know.
11:55Pick your poison here of whatever the crappy team you may be stuck.
11:59Dude, listen. My podcast league team. I'm done. I'm one in six.
12:03Got in the win column. But I have McCaffrey and Scadaboo.
12:06So you're going to spend whatever you need to spend to get at least somebody to start for you.
12:12No one's available. But you get the point. I would.
12:15Now take that from a 14-team league to a 12-team league, and those guys might be available.
12:20Absolutely. Yeah, I would love to. I was like, damn, I might have to go to Elijah Mitchell this week.
12:27But it seems like Saquon Barkley is optimistic about playing.
12:30Did you all watch the game last night? I don't think he should play.
12:34But he says the back issue, which was from compensating for the hamstring.
12:38That would be the big one. Like if you just need like a one-week guy, if Saquon Barkley were going to be out this week.
12:46Well, don't rule out Damien Pearson. I know he left.
12:49We don't know what the story is. I was going to say, either Damien Pearson or Elijah Mitchell.
12:54And look, it's not like the Eagles would risk anybody's health and play them again.
12:59Why would they do that? Oh. Well, yeah, I mean, they're pretty much done now.
13:03Well, I wouldn't say that, but they're probably going to act that way.
13:07But anyway, it is – I guess could we say it's more of a long-term week than a short-term week in terms
13:14of the better players on the waiver wire? Sure.
13:17I would also say that there's enough out there – and this is just me thinking about it as we roll along
13:24here – where you might be able to satisfy short- and long-term needs.
13:28I don't know if you're going to be able to do it flawlessly.
13:32I don't like your chances of getting Omar Cooper and Casey Concepcion unless you're unloading the fab wallet.
13:37But I do think you can find players who can give you something at every position.
13:42And you can prioritize the long-term first and the short-term second.
13:45For example, you can get Jonah Coleman, and then your second waiver claim can be Dylan Sampson.
13:51And I would like to think that you'd have a pretty good shot at getting both.
13:55Okay. And I think I had a stat on Dylan Sampson.
13:59Hold on. This is – I mean, this is kind of a useless stat.
14:03But the Steelers, Dylan Sampson, he ran every route on third down.
14:07The Steelers allow the fifth most receiving yards per game to running backs.
14:11Three running backs have already had six or more catches against the Steelers, including Quinshawn Judkins.
14:16That doesn't make me feel very confident. Like, Sampson's a dart throw, obviously.
14:20No, you're hoping for 10 PPR points. Yeah, that'd be great.
14:23I mean, I think if you get eight, I'd be happy from – but I don't know about happy.
14:29Anyway, oh, there's also Zonovan Knight. I mean, that's a guy that might – Sure.
14:33Might be all right this week. But he keeps splitting evenly with Tyler Algier.
14:38And Jeremiah Love is expected to practice this week.
14:41So he might be back this week. All right.
14:43So, again, it's not a week where it's like unload the fab because we have a sure thing that's going to help us in week eight.
14:51But you're going to – Unless it's one of the guys that's widely available.
14:56It's really Omar Cooper. But the receivers could clearly be startable for you if you need receiver help or flex help.
15:02I mean, Concepcion, again, five of his last six games – five of his last six healthy games, six or more targets.
15:09So he's been involved. Again, not guaranteed production. Prior to last week, his best game was against the Steelers.
15:15It was 11.4 PPR points. Like, that's going to be a starter in a three-receiver league.
15:19Caleb Douglas has played two games so far this season.
15:23He's been productive in both of them. Different ways.
15:25Five catches in week one. Two touchdowns in week seven.
15:28Still, there's a guy that's worth investing in and hopefully continues to play well.
15:33He may get Christian Gonzalez. It could be terrible.
15:35But it's just something that you want to at least take a shot on.
15:40Antonio Williams. Last time we saw him without one of his guys on the field, he had eight targets when Stephon Diggs
15:46didn't play in the game in Europe. So there's an opportunity for him.
15:50Dan Quinn talked about him and his production, whatever, or his playing time is increasing.
15:55You have Makai Lemon. I know Dave said he doesn't want to invest in him.
16:00I get it. There's clearly risk involved here because of the quarterback and everything that's involved there.
16:05The commander secondary stinks, and you just saw Makai Lemon without the other two guys on the field.
16:10There's no guarantee that they're playing. There was the questionable report about Devontae Smith getting shut down for the season.
16:16This could be their guy rest of the way.
16:19It was certainly better than Darius Cooper. So there are guys that are available that could start for you, and you might
16:26have to spend the money to go get them.
16:29And as we've said throughout the season, playing two tight ends is not a bad thing either.
16:34You could pick up Henry and Hawkinson, Hawkinson and Okonkwo.
16:37You could find creative ways to get two of these guys into your lineup that may not cost you a ton of
16:44fab because not everybody's chasing tight ends. Yeah. Listen, I'm going to be making some waiver claims today.
16:49There's no doubt with all these bye weeks. I can't wait for the afternoon show when you tell me about all your waiver claims.
16:57I like to do – you know, I think it's helpful for me to do the show having done my waiver claims.
17:03I hope it's helpful for the people to get some insight from one stupid manager with me.
17:09All right. So matchup alert. This is a guy that's not even – I don't know if he's in the column, but Sam Darnold.
17:16Sam Darnold has a little – pretty good history with Seattle of doing well and good matchups.
17:21His next – I am as a drop. Yeah.
17:24But I do mention his schedule. It's amazing the next four games.
17:28Yeah. It's Chicago, Arizona, and the Raiders and then a bye.
17:31And those three teams are 24th, 30th, and 27th against quarterbacks.
17:34He's actually had a pretty tough schedule since the Washington game, but the Washington game he killed.
17:39Malik Willis is – it's tough this week, but then just for the Dolphins passing game, you know, it's New England this
17:46week and then it's the Lions, the Colts, and the Bills.
17:50And Hunter Henry, I already mentioned, three of his next four – two of his next three games are against two of
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21:24Jesse Minter is optimistic about Lamar Jackson playing this week at Buffalo.
21:28We'll keep our fingers crossed. Kirk Cousins is going to remain the Raiders quarterback.
21:32If you missed Beyond the Box score yesterday, we were talking about the Raiders.
21:37They're top five or six in scoring, in passing yards per game, in touchdown rate.
21:41I mean, they've had a really good passing offense, but it's been a little clunky lately with a lot of garbage time.
21:48Shane Steichen is not considering a quarterback change yet.
21:51I was going to say, he didn't say yet or anything, but that's my editorializing there.
21:56At running back, we did have both Tyrone Tracy and Cam Scadaboo leave with injuries.
22:00They go into their bye and they're at Philadelphia when they come out of their bye.
22:05Christian McCaffrey has a mild hamstring strain and he's going into his bye.
22:09So, Kalon Black definitely needs to be added. We will see what happens there.
22:13Again, Saquon Barkley, I heard his back. He re-aggravated his hamstring injury.
22:17Damian Pierce left late. I haven't seen anything on that.
22:20Have you guys seen anything on Damian? No, and it's undisclosed injury, you know, so who knows what the extent of it
22:27is, but I still think you should be trying to add Damian Pierce as of now.
22:32That could change later this afternoon if we get a report.
22:35But as of now, there's no guarantee Barkley plays and we get.
22:39And there's no guarantee Pierce plays. So, if, you know, like Pierce is, I think he's rostered about half our leagues, 55%.
22:4654%. So, Elijah Mitchell had three carries and three catches and mop-up duty at the end there.
22:51He might be the guy this week against Washington, right?
22:54Yeah, Washington. Yeah. Okay, back to the running back news.
22:57Zach Charbonnet's status is unclear. They play the Bears on Monday night.
23:01Aaron Jones, you know, it seems like he came away, fortunately, with a minor knee injury and he hopefully able to play this week at Detroit.
23:09Jeremiah Love going to practice this week. They also said that James Conner could return at some point this season.
23:15Could return. I don't know that we're going to get much from James Conner.
23:19And Jadarian Price could be back next week for Seattle.
23:22Not this week. He's going to practice this week and then he's eligible to come back next week.
23:28At wide receiver. Any updates on Jalen Waddell? Chest injury, nothing more than that.
23:32Yeah, haven't seen anything. All right, they get the Chiefs this week.
23:36It's weird that they're 5-2, right? That's wild. They did lose to the Chiefs in week one, though.
23:41Dan Quinn said that he doesn't expect Stefan Diggs to take on a larger role.
23:46And I think that's pretty important. He's still always going to have kind of limited snaps and that's going to free up
23:52more stuff for Antonio Williams and Chico Conquo, etc.
23:55Sunday night, Washington hosting Philadelphia. Matthew Golden plays on Thursday.
23:58For what it's worth, he was listed as a did not practice with foot and shoulder issues.
24:04We'll keep an eye on that. I think we're still expecting Matthew Golden at this point.
24:08And we got turf toe for Liam Cohen. For Jalen Knoll, Liam Cohen's toes are fine.
24:13He supported Brian Thomas Jr. He said he feels like he's going to help us make a play.
24:19What? Am I? Did I say something wrong, Dave?
24:22Liam Cohen's toes are fine. Because I said he had turf toe.
24:25Oh, yeah. Because you said something. Yeah, yeah. His toes are fine.
24:29And that's we have two long term injuries at offensive line.
24:32Taylor Moten out for the season for Carolina. Their right tackle.
24:36He hadn't really been playing. Was this his first game back?
24:39Second. Second game back. So he hadn't really been playing.
24:42They had been getting by without him. And then Venga Yawane is going to miss some weeks with an MCL injury.
24:49Offensive guard for the Ravens. And so not only on this Thursday night game of Green Bay hosting Carolina, is Taylor Moten out.
24:56But Green Bay is going to probably have its third string center for that game.
25:00Let's get our top three at each position. We haven't really talked about the quarterbacks, Jamie.
25:05Who's on the quarterback list this week? You got Geno Smith.
25:08Jacobi Reset and Geno Smith would be the top two guys to go get.
25:13You're looking at both of them in, I think, favorable matchups this week.
25:17Per set against Dallas. I think you should have an opportunity here.
25:20Very similar setup to what we had with Detroit a couple weeks ago.
25:24We expect Dallas to come in and put up points.
25:27Because his defense has been struggling. Hopefully, per set doesn't get benched.
25:31But if he stays in the game, he actually, I thought, played for what he typically does.
25:36I thought he played well last week. Had Zonovan night drop the touchdown.
25:40We'll see if he, again, doesn't get too far behind where the Cardinals are.
25:45Especially if Carson Beck is healthy. Just like, hey, we've seen enough.
25:48It's time to maybe explore other options. But I think Jacobi Reset could be considered a low-end number on quarterback for this week.
25:55And then you have Geno coming off his second best game of the season.
26:0029 and a half fantasy points against Miami. And now he gets to take on the Raiders.
26:05And that defense has been awful. Number six of most fantasy points allowed to the position.
26:10Number three to me is a toss-up. I'm just going to go Michael Penix.
26:14Just because he's been playing very well his last two games.
26:17This is not an easy matchup against Tampa Bay.
26:20They've done very well against opposing quarterbacks, as we've seen.
26:23It just made Bryce Young look awful. But we'll see if he just has to continue to put up points.
26:29You could put Malik Willis in the third spot.
26:32You could potentially put Baker Mayfield in the third spot.
26:35I just think given that Willis' matchup, difficult, same thing.
26:38Baker, you haven't seen anything from him yet as a fantasy option that makes you want to trust him.
26:44Maybe that changes if Abuka plays this week. But I just think I'll ride the hot hand of Penix if I'm going
26:51to take a shot on the third quarterback. Geno Smith facing the Raiders.
26:55You mentioned how bad they've been. Five straight quarterbacks have scored 21 or more fantasy points and six points per passing touchdown leagues against the Raiders.
27:03That's Shuck, Mahomes, Drake May, Josh Allen, and Matthew Stafford.
27:06It's not exactly easy competition, but they have been giving up points.
27:10When you look at Brissette and Smith, how would you compare them to Kirk Cousins at the Jets and Aaron Rodgers against
27:16Cleveland, who he actually lit up a few weeks ago?
27:19Cousins over both, and then Rodgers after both. So Cousins, Brissette, Geno, Rodgers.
27:23Cousins, Brissette, Geno, Rodgers, yes. Dave, agree? I might have Geno at the top of that list.
27:29I've got to double-check my rankings, but Brissette isn't quite as high.
27:32I love the narrative plus the matchup for Geno Smith.
27:35Okay, I've got Cousins, Geno, Goff, which, I mean, we're not picking him up off waivers, but just to let you know
27:42how low he is getting in the rankings this week, and then Brissette's after that.
27:47I don't know how you guys feel, but when we have one of the elite offenses in football facing one of the
27:53elite defenses in football, I don't even know what adjective to describe.
27:57I don't know if I like it. I don't know if I hate it.
28:01I know I hate it from a fantasy standpoint, but I like it from a content standpoint because it's so interesting.
28:08But with the Lions facing the Vikings and the Bears facing the Seahawks, I just wonder what fantasy managers are going to do in these situations.
28:16Are you going to go to the waiver wire?
28:19Because you just mentioned Goff in there. Are you going to get Brissette and start him over Jared Goff?
28:24And, you know, it's a tough call. So what would you tell the percent?
28:29What would you tell the Goff and Caleb Williams managers this week?
28:32Start your guys. Probably. It depends. If you buy into why you would start Geno against a terrible Raiders defense with revenge
28:39on his mind and you feel a little bit better with that, especially after him having such a big game, yes, file
28:46this under gets too cute, but I think you can make the case for him ahead of Goff or Caleb.
28:52I gave you two examples that sort of fit this narrative.
28:55One league, I think it might have been against you, Adam.
28:59No, it was another league, but I did the same thing.
29:02Picked up Geno Smith for both. You crushed me with him.
29:05Yeah. Yes, but that was Mahomes, so it was a little easier.
29:09But one league where I have, it's our draft-a-thon league, I have Lamar Jackson and Jane Daniels.
29:14I'm obviously not dropping those guys. I had to pick up a quarterback, so I had to carry three quarterbacks.
29:20Geno Smith was the third. Picked him up and I think it was the difference in winning the game.
29:26Another league where it's a 20-man league where we use team quarterbacks.
29:30So it's not even like you could pick up a backup to maybe take a chance on.
29:35I was just punting the week, essentially, because I have Josh Allen.
29:39And the other team was significantly better than me on paper.
29:42I still won without a quarterback. Without a quarterback?
29:45Wow. And the reason I bring that up is because you can still get by with Jared Goff having a mediocre game
29:52or Caleb Williams having a mediocre game. You know, so I don't think Dave's wrong in ranking those guys ahead of Goff.
29:58I have Goff ahead of them slightly. The thing is, and I think I said this last week in regards to one
30:05of these situations, you don't want to make drastic roster changes for one week unless you're just overwhelmingly convinced that Geno Smith
30:12is going to be better than Jared Goff or Jacoby Brissett better than Jared Goff.
30:17Don't drop somebody of significance that you have some faith in.
30:20Yeah. Right. Yeah, certainly. But I have a lot of Goff.
30:23He's my most rostered quarterback, and I'm going to try to pick up Brissett and start him.
30:28I don't think I'd do it with Geno, but I'm going to try with Brissett because this stat, my favorite stat of
30:35the week, the Minnesota Vikings have allowed four touchdown passes in their last 14 games dating back to last season.
30:41One of them was the Christian Watson, I think, 80-yard touchdown, where it should have been called back on an illegal block in the back.
30:49It was a little fluky to begin with, but that Jordan Love is the only guy who's thrown multiple touchdowns in a game in those 14 games.
30:57I can't wait to break down this Lions-Vikings game.
31:00I mean, the Vikings really haven't been challenged that much.
31:03They've faced a pretty easy schedule, but my God, are they good defensively so far.
31:08It's a fun week with those two matchups from an analyst standpoint, having to make these decisions to break down the games.
31:14All right, Dave, sorry for getting off track there.
31:17I want to just bring up one last thing because I think it's an important point.
31:22What is that line of demarcation for players that we're willing to cut to go and get a Geno, a Brissett, a
31:29Penix to replace a starter that we just don't feel confident in?
31:33I'm going to give you four names. They all have something in common.
31:36Would you drop Jawan Johnson? Yeah. Would you drop Kendra Miller?
31:40Easily. Yeah. Would you drop Tyler Shuck? No. Oh, yeah.
31:43Yeah, you have to. Would you drop Devon Vele?
31:46Yeah, they're all on buys and they're all in situations where they can be replaced.
31:50That's the point is that these are all guys that if you're looking at them, you're going, oh, I'm not sure if I should drop them.
31:58Man, those are easier drops. If it's obviously you're not going to drop somebody like Olave to go and get one of
32:05those guys, but that's kind of the range that you need to look at it.
32:10It's guys that are just below the stars. Yeah.
32:12You're going to hang on to the guys that are just totally mediocre and replaceable.
32:17Yeah. Yeah. You'll cut them to try and upgrade a quarterback and win a week.
32:22So I think the other layer to this also is like, if you're looking at it, you have golf and he's your
32:28only quarterback and it's either a waiver situation and you're near the top or you're spending your last little bit of fab.
32:35I'm trying to go get somebody like Concepcion or one of these players as opposed to trying to get a second quarterback.
32:42That's a good point. Yeah. Right. And then I would drop someone like I'm thinking about my golf league.
32:48I have, I've Emmett Johnson, Kyle Mononga. I'm not dropping them to pick up Jacoby Brissett.
32:53You know, I'm not dropping my, my high upside handcuff.
32:56That could be huge for me later in the year.
32:59Uh, I might drop like whatever. I think we've, we've covered it well enough.
33:03All right. Um, and just so you know, if you're making this decision, I haven't done my Caleb Williams research yet, but
33:10I did do my Jared golf research. He's played Brian Flores four times.
33:14He's had two good games from anywhere from 20 to 23 and a half fantasy points in six point leagues to two terrible games.
33:21And last year, four fantasy points in the second matchup against the lions.
33:25And he came in red hot day. Who are the best running backs to get this week?
33:30Again, I said the lions. I meant the Vikings.
33:33Sorry, Dave, who are the best guys to get?
33:36This is going to be gross. And I don't even have a top three for each of these.
33:41So I've got two running backs that I think are usable this week.
33:45I just don't know if you should have high expectations for now.
33:49It's Zonovan night, although it does sound like Jeremiah love has a chance to play.
33:53So don't go crazy there. The next best one for me for this week is Dylan Sampson.
33:59The third best one. So I guess I do have three names is Samaj AP Ryan.
34:04If we're stashing, uh, Kalon block is already rostered in 60% of leagues, but he's the one that I would want to
34:10have sash Seth McGowan would be second. And then I would guess Tyrone Tracy would be third on that satchel list, but it's not great.
34:18Let's just call that list. Two names. So if you're really desperate or running back and we're believing that Jeremiah love is
34:25going to play, there's really no need to go and add Zonovan night, which means Dylan Sampson is probably your best running back.
34:32Unless we hear at some point on Tuesday that Saquon isn't a lot to play.
34:36Damian Pierce is going to be out for a while.
34:39And then you can go and pick up Elijah Mitchell and buy into workload carrying him through.
34:45Uh, just let me get throw out one more name here for, for shallower leagues for Yahoo, where he's 71% rostered sleeper, 75%.
34:52What would you do with Emmanuel Wilson right now?
34:54I think you got to consider a must add guy.
34:58So, you know, if you don't have Charbonnet and look, there is a chance that Darren Price could play this week.
35:04I don't think he's going to, but I don't think so.
35:07I thought, I'm sorry. I thought he had to miss one more game.
35:11Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. I think he's going to practice this week and they're going to activate him, but he's
35:18been inactive for, Oh no, I'm, I'm an idiot.
35:21I'm so sorry. You're, you're absolutely right. He could play this week, but he's going to, he is going to practice this week.
35:28I thought they were kind of looking. Yup. I'm just wrong.
35:31I'm just eligible. He could play this week. You're right.
35:34My bad. So given the Charbonnet news last week, they'll probably be cautious with it.
35:39But yeah, I mean, I think even if price plays, I don't think he's stepping into the lead role.
35:45I think he's stepping into a complimentary role. So Wilson, if he's the featured act, it's 13 PPR points or more in
35:51three of the last four games and heavy workloads in three of the last four games.
35:56So taking on the bears, I think you got to consider him must add Jonah Coleman would be on the stash list as well.
36:04If he's available, he would top the stash list.
36:07I'm very sorry that I screwed that up earlier with Jadari and price people.
36:11That is my fault. Okay. Dave, Jamie, best wide receivers to get.
36:14Yeah. All rookies. Um, number one would be conception again, coming off that game where he just had with, uh, 10 targets and eight catches, 129 yards.
36:23Uh, Caleb Douglas, again, played two full games so far this season.
36:26He's been over 12 PPR points in both of those.
36:29And then Antonio Williams, you know, hopefully gets that bump that we're hoping for without Terry McLaurin on the field.
36:36So you referenced that, you know, Dan Quinn said not a big role, not a huge role change coming for Stefan Diggs.
36:42And he listed a bunch of receivers, but Williams is certainly the one that has the most upside of the guys on, on the team.
36:50But again, Makai Lemmon's in this, in this discussion.
36:53Um, you can throw Khalil Shakir if you want to.
36:56Keon Coleman's rostered in a few too many leagues.
36:59But if DJ Moore's out once again, Shakir has been 11 PPR points or more in three straight games.
37:04Um, and then just the, the, the sneaky one is Travis Hunter going into their bi-week.
37:09You know, he was certainly more involved and you know, we'll see, you know, you, you, you, you referenced, uh, Toes Coleman,
37:16Toes Cohen, um, with his, um, his, uh, his comments on Brian Thomas.
37:20Um, I'd like to see it for Thomas. My guess is they're going to, you know, continue to give Hunter more opportunities because I think he deserves it.
37:29He looked pretty good. He ran seven routes, had four targets, caught them all for 59 yards and a touchdown.
37:35It's, it's really, he's so good. Uh, yeah. And from what I understand, Liam Cohen, his socks are completely intact.
37:41Uh, no, no issues there with this. I have a lot to learn from that man.
37:46Dave, who are the top three tight ends to get?
37:49This is an exciting list and I'm up for debate on who should be number one on this list.
37:55I'm just going to give them to you an alphabetical order by last name, because I am not sure which one I
38:01love the best of this list, but Hunter Henry would be first on the alphabetical order, followed by TJ Hawkinson, followed by Chico Conquo.
38:09And there are positives for all three of these guys in the case of Henry.
38:13We've seen it. It's now four straight games with at least 11.2 PPR points.
38:18He doesn't always get a ton of targets last week.
38:21He had seven, but I like his role as not only a check down guy for, for Drake may, but he he's used in the red zone too.
38:29And I can't say the same thing for both Hawkinson and Oconqua with Hawkinson.
38:34He does get red zone work. Yes. But he doesn't get the same type of check down volume, but he does get occasional downfield throws from Kyler Murray.
38:42The difference is, is that it's Kyler Murray. It's not Drake may and the target volume.
38:47You wish it could be even higher for TJ Hawkinson.
38:50Now, Oconqua has got the targets in each of his last few games, at least six targets.
38:55I think he looks great when you watch him run.
38:58He's got some speed to him. And obviously he's a size mismatch.
39:02He has as many red zone targets this year as the three of us combined, which is zero.
39:08So that's something that kind of sticks in the back of my mind and might make a more of a PPR ad,
39:14but I do think his role will stick for the commanders who are probably gonna have a tough time running the ball.
39:21Patriots, not to the same extent. They can run the ball a little bit.
39:25We know the Vikings can too. So that does give some appeal to Oconqua.
39:30The bottom line is that we can talk about these three.
39:33We can come to a consensus because I'm not married to alphabetical order or whatever, but you, if you, if you need
39:40a tight end and Jamie mentioned this or a flex, these guys are in the conversation.
39:45And to me, they're the top three. So Henry Hawkinson and Oconqua in alphabetical order.
39:49And that is, I believe the way Jamie has them ranked Henry Hawkinson, Oconqua.
39:54I think it just comes down like Henry is easy one for me at the top.
39:59Hawkinson and Oconqua, I think comes down to short term versus long term because Hawkinson, yes, scored last week against the Colts.
40:05Bad game for Jefferson, bad game for Addison. Those two guys I think are gonna, Jefferson's obviously gonna be the priority and
40:12Addison will still have, you know, I think in contention for second on the team in targets most weeks.
40:18For the commanders, there's a loss, clearly, in McLaurin.
40:21And that absence has to be filled by somebody.
40:23And as Dave alluded to, Oconqua, the last two games has been, you know, very productive.
40:28That could be sustainable. Hawkinson could disappear. So if you, if you want somebody just for this week, I would lean toward Hawkinson.
40:35If you want somebody rest of season, I would go Oconqua.
40:39Okay. And I guess I didn't realize until now, because I've always kind of put Jamie on a pedestal.
40:44You know, he's just such a brilliant analyst. I didn't realize until now that he was just always doing this in alphabetical order.
40:52Or I guess that's usually a pretty easy way to write the way.
40:56Well, that's why after, after Oconqua, then we get to Mason Taylor, you know, so he's fourth.
41:01You know, just going down the list. Did you do it with rookie receivers too?
41:05Concepcion, Douglas, Williams? No. Williams ahead of Lemon, so no.
41:08Do you have Tyler Algier at the top of your running back?
41:12No, but I do have him at the top of the drop list.
41:16So yes, he's. Well, let's see if we do this with DSDs.
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41:39Jaguars. Number one DST this week for me. Taking on the Colts.
41:43That offense has been absolutely miserable. And you may not have Jonathan Taylor by the end of the week who knows how this all unfolds.
41:51So I think the Jaguars make the most sense.
41:53The Bengals, look, the Titans offense played much better than I expected against the Browns.
41:58Tony Pollard had a huge game. Bengals, second half, shut down that Bravens offense completely.
42:03And hopefully that carries over to next week. And then for what it's worth, the Bears defense, they've been playing well.
42:09And the Seahawks offense has not been playing very well.
42:12So the Bears would be third on the list.
42:15You can throw the Cowboys on this list as well.
42:18You know, coming off an okay game. Taking on a Cardinals offense that we know at times.
42:23Jacoby Brissett can be turnover prone. I might be missing a team or two in there.
42:28But I think the Jaguars are the one to go get their 44% rostered right now.
42:33Everybody dropped them off their bye week. They should be 100% rostered with this matchup against Indianapolis.
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43:17All right. Well, we'll be right back with more of the waiver wire, shallow leagues, deep leagues, and the rest.
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45:07I think we have talked about it, and you can't really express it enough.
45:11Omar Cooper Jr., not Keon Coleman, but he is actually in this conversation.
45:15Omar Cooper Jr., Rashad White, and Jonah Coleman are three guys that you want to be making sure are not available.
45:21You can pick them up. But, Jamie, who are some other shallow leaguers that are must-ads if they're available?
45:27So, Kirk Cousins, you know, coming off another strong game.
45:30I think it's now 22.5 fantasy points in five of his last six games.
45:34So, great matchup against the Jets. And then Rodgers, 70% rostered.
45:38He should do well, presumably, against the Browns, but he had 27.9 fantasy points against them in the week four game.
45:44The running backs are, you know, several good options.
45:47You mentioned Jonah Coleman, Rashad White. I think, as you alluded to, Emmanuel Wilson, Rico Dattle had a very strong game in
45:54London, excuse me, in Paris against the Saints. And, you know, seemingly can work in tandem with Jalen Warren.
46:00So, somebody should be rostered, obviously, a lottery ticket in case there is an absence for Warren at any point.
46:06The receivers, there's several ways you can go with this position.
46:09Omar Cooper Jr. would be the headliner here. Debo Samuel says he's going to come back in week nine.
46:15There's no guarantee Mike Evans returns in week nine.
46:18Pick up Debo Samuel while he's on his bye week.
46:21Yeah, pause right there. I mean, I think you could make a case for Debo over Omar Cooper Jr.
46:27You absolutely could. What would you do? You know, sure.
46:3015 PPR points or more in three of his first four games.
46:33If there is no Samuel and, you know, God forbid there's no McCaffrey, then Samuel can get some additional carries on top of that.
46:41So, it's definitely worth, you know, investing in Samuel.
46:43You have an injury replaced, a couple of injury replacements, potential guys in Godwin.
46:48And Keon Coleman, Godwin, as you discussed yesterday, what a massive target share that he had.
46:53Did we discuss that? I didn't know. With Emeka Abuka injured and Abuka may not return from his concussion in week eight.
46:59Keon Coleman has scored a touchdown in three straight games.
47:02He's been 12 PPR points or more in four of the five games that DJ Moore has either missed or left early.
47:09So, there's a guy that could be beneficial to you there.
47:12Jacoby Myers had 10 targets in his last game before the bye week.
47:16Keenan Allen, I'm just going to throw out, you reference this all the time, throw out the Minnesota game.
47:22Prior to that, he was good in two of his previous three games.
47:26And I think he's the only Colts receiver worth rostering.
47:29Tight end does not really have anybody in this range.
47:32The only person that I listed was Pat Friermuth with the hope that he can get back on track, but he's clearly struggled the last two weeks.
47:41Did you mention Trey Tucker? Did I miss that?
47:43He's like 90-some-odd percent rostered. On CBS, but on ESPN and Yahoo, he's right around 60% rostered.
47:49Yeah, we talked about him in depth yesterday on Beyond the Box score and basically, I mean, the Jamison Williams comparison was made.
47:56And quite frankly, it's a pretty good one. And he scored more fantasy points so far this year than Jamison Williams, more per game.
48:03So, yeah, he would have to be rostered. And Dave sent me, I got to give him credit.
48:09I mean, a legendary text yesterday of the rankings tool that you guys use.
48:13And he just, he sent me a picture and it said, should I?
48:17And it had Chris Godwin, number one, Jackson Smith and Jigman, number two for week eight.
48:22So I got a nice kick out of that.
48:25But I went back. Well, you're not going to mention the other picture I sent.
48:29Oh, the next one was Godwin at number three.
48:32At the very bottom. Number like 387. Yeah. No, he's top 40 this week.
48:36I ranked him without being a dummy. One thing that you go back and watch the tape.
48:41I didn't love this about Godwin. Four of his five targets were screen passes.
48:46So it's not like he was getting open downfield.
48:48He dropped one of the screen passes. If you told me he was going to guarantee to get four screen passes, that'd be great.
48:56But that's probably not going to happen again. It was kind of stupid.
49:00But yeah, again, five targets on 11 pass attempts isn't bad.
49:03I watched him too. I do think he moved okay for an older receiver with so many injuries in his past.
49:10You know, beat man coverage on the touchdown that was called back on a short out route.
49:15He's going to have a game at some point where you're just going to, you know, pump your fist at him and say, yeah, Chris Godwin's the man.
49:23It's only if a book is out. It's only if a book is out.
49:28No, he's going to do. He's going to have a game at some point.
49:32We say you could say this literally about anybody that plays football.
49:36So when he does, you can take your victory.
49:38Okay. I guess I did pick him up in a few leagues.
49:42I'm not going to drop him until I see a book is going to play.
49:47You know, I mean, unless I don't need him.
49:49But okay. Anyway, enough on him for the rest of the year.
49:53And that's it for the shallow leagues. But Dave, like none of those guys are available in my leagues because I play in deep leagues.
50:01What? So what would you recommend, Dave? Because none of these guys are available.
50:05I got diddly poo on the waiver wire in my leagues.
50:08So assuming that you can't get your cloppies on Gene Overset, Penix is out there in 65% of CBS leagues.
50:15Malik Willis is an interesting stash. How about his last couple of games?
50:19Not too bad. He's available in 75% of CBS sports leagues.
50:22We could talk about a couple of the two QB options, but I don't know if there's anybody that's just lighting the world on fire.
50:30And if Jay McCarthy, it played so well. He played great.
50:33So the numbers might come eventually, but I would imagine that he's already rostered in a bunch of those two QB.
50:39Yeah, but I'm talking one QB leagues. Like, is he worth a stash?
50:43I don't think you have to. No, you don't have to.
50:47All right, keep going. I don't think you have to.
50:50Yeah, no problem. Dylan Sampson, already talked about him, two-thirds.
50:53Elijah Mitchell is available in 99% of CBS sports leagues.
50:56How about the Chargers running backs? Are we sure that they're going to come back and still use three guys?
51:02It doesn't even matter. I don't even know. But we know that Hampton's already rostered in too many leagues.
51:08But Kamani Vidal has looked better for three straight games now.
51:11If you want to talk about a deep stash, 14-plus team league, I think Vidal makes sense.
51:16He's available in two-thirds of leagues. Keaton Mitchell was one of my early season favorites.
51:21He's out there in 70% of leagues. The stash list, Seth McGowan is the headliner there.
51:26He's available in 85% of leagues. Wide receivers. Two of the three rookies.
51:30I want to mention something about Concepcion a little bit later.
51:33But Caleb Douglas, Antonio Williams, they're out there in at least 70% of leagues.
51:38Makai Lemon's out there in 65% or so. Ryan Flannoy is out there in about 85% of leagues.
51:43Travis Hunter, 93% of leagues. We already talked about him.
51:46He's also getting a target per route run rate of 50%.
51:50So maybe he's the next Chris Godwin. At tight end, talked about a bunch of other dudes.
51:55Okonkwo obviously is going to be out there in a ton of leagues.
51:59Not enough people picked him up during his bye week.
52:02Eli Raritan has actually put up some halfway decent numbers.
52:05He's like the junior Hunter Henry. And he'll probably end up being a breakout candidate in our rankings for 2027 leagues.
52:11Out there in 97% of leagues, I don't know what kind of world you're living in where he would be available and useful for fantasy.
52:19But if you're absolutely desperate, and if you can't get Mason Taylor, who's rostered in even fewer leagues than Eli Raritan, then
52:26he would be the guy to go to. I should have mentioned Mason Taylor first because he's out there, available, ready to
52:32go in over 95% of CBS sports leagues. I think if we're looking at just super deep league guys that are barely
52:39rostered, Elijah Mitchell could certainly come into play. But Travis Hunter is probably the one that has the most upside that could contribute.
52:46I don't know. Because do you see a world where he's playing even 30 snaps a game on offense?
52:52I don't know, man. Right. He's too valuable on defense for them to put him in that position.
52:58So if he's playing, what did you say? Seven routes or seven snaps last week?
53:02Seven routes, four targets. Yeah. Okay. Let's double it to 14.
53:06Are you going to be comfortable starting somebody that you know is only going to be playing 14?
53:11Even though he's exceptional? No. I don't know. I don't know if I'd feel great about carrying him outside of deep leagues.
53:18And there's some leagues where you're going to get points for both what he does in offensive defense, but he's already rostered in those leagues.
53:25No, no. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm just saying this only for deep leagues.
53:30And I honestly think, you know, you could look at maybe some of the Buccaneers if a boot goes out again.
53:37Like, forget it. Why am I even talking about this?
53:40Let's go to our next segment, which is Dallas 38, Philadelphia 21.
53:43Was this a good game or a bad game for George Pickens?
53:47Because he had four catches for 57 yards and a touchdown, which is awesome.
53:51But it only had six targets. Ryan Flannoying is getting, you know, enough to be Flannoying.
53:56He had four targets. But Dak Prescott only threw 27 passes.
53:59They ran the ball so well. Jamie, was this a good game or a bad game in your opinion?
54:05Looking to the future for George Pickens? A little of both.
54:09They made reference to him dealing with a shoulder injury during the game.
54:13So something to keep an eye on there, certainly for Ryan Flannoy, who has scored 11 PPR points in three straight games.
54:19And, you know, another guy that you can look at and just say, okay, maybe not great production, but certainly enough to get me by if I'm stuck.
54:28And he's only rostered in 16% of leagues. But, yeah, I think anytime Pickens can get you north of 12 PPR points,
54:35you're going to be happy about that given how the season has gone for him.
54:39So I would say overall good game, but the shoulder injury could be a concern.
54:44You don't want him to miss the game against Arizona.
54:47Someone wants to know, can you talk more about Makai Lemon?
54:50Sure. Yes, we can. He fits well with what Tanner McKee is best at, which is getting the ball out quick and throwing like five yards downfield.
54:59And so as long as he continues to earn targets that way and he gets open against zone coverage and he can make guys miss.
55:06He's kind of like Casey Concepcion, where he gets a lot of those short area targets with the hope that he breaks
55:13a tackle or finds open space and turns it into a big play.
55:17Had the nice touchdown inside of the in the red zone for sure.
55:21I don't remember if it was inside the 10.
55:24I think it was. So if there's more of that, that's great.
55:27The problem is, is does does Devante Smith come back?
55:31Because he can run routes short, too, and he's better than Makai Lemon.
55:34Does Dontavian Wicks earn targets as a downfield guy?
55:37Not that Wicks is good for fantasy anymore because he does not fit well with what Tanner McKee does.
55:43But it's just another mouth to feed in that offense.
55:46I can't say that Lemon is is someone that we can expect big things from just because he scored against Dallas.
55:53No, but they got Washington this week and a matchup, you know, it is a good matchup.
55:58Right. But that's what he does. Like, that's his role.
56:01But you remember the the knock on the situation coming out of the draft?
56:05Well, Jalen Hurst doesn't throw over the middle of the field.
56:09So Makai Lemon, what he does best is not going to fit what Jalen Hurst does.
56:13And then we see a game without the top two receivers available and a quarterback that's going to throw over the middle of the field.
56:21Like you said, get the ball quick, but he's going to look in that range.
56:26Yeah. And Lemon has this fantastic performance. So you have that coupled with, again, we talked about this Sunday, Friday.
56:32I don't remember. Monday, yesterday, Adam. The day's kind of fudged together.
56:35The stupid report that seemed or the seemingly stupid report of Devontae Smith being shut down.
56:40If that does come to fruition, because maybe they just decide why risk his injury or it's a long term injury for
56:47Smith, then Lemon becomes very, I think, prominent for fantasy managers.
56:51I mean, let's talk about that. That would help.
56:53I think, yeah, I think you could make the case he's an absolute must add because Devontae Smith has been dealing with this hamstring injury since the preseason.
57:02It keeps popping up on him. And, you know, when we look at a guy, is he going to play?
57:08He missed the week. Is he going to play the next week?
57:12One of the things is, did he practice last week?
57:15How close was he to playing in this game?
57:17He didn't practice. So he wasn't even close to playing in this Monday night game.
57:22They had an extra day to play and get ready.
57:25He wasn't ready. So I think you got it at least today on Tuesday.
57:29You can, again, tell me if I'm wrong. You got to approach it as if Devontae Smith is not going to play.
57:36I don't know about Dontabian Wicks, but you're telling me Makai Lemon is the number one receiver for this team against Washington.
57:43You know, that's exciting, I think. Well, it's intriguing.
57:46It's enticing. I don't know if it's exciting. So if you take away the touchdown that Lemon had, it's his first receiving touchdown of the year.
57:54He would have had six catches for 63 yards.
57:56And the 12.3 PPR points would have been a season high for him.
58:00That's what I would hope for. I get where you're coming from, and I don't hate it.
58:06So he's in that mix. Just remember, and only one of these past four games that he's played in was with Devontae Smith.
58:13He's seen six-plus targets for four straight weeks now, and he was never above 10 PPR points until last night.
58:19You're going to laugh at this, but I'm going through it as we're talking.
58:23So if I just move Makai Lemon and Antonio Williams, so now it's an alphabetical order.
58:28Now it's an alphabetical order. Let's go. All right.
58:31I had some guys on the drop-o-meter, but I deleted some of them.
58:35So I'll tell you who remains. I made a mistake in my notes here.
58:39Jawan Johnson, drop-o-meter. Eight. Cortland Sutton. I think you can't drop him right now, right?
58:44You could. You could. So let's put him at a four, and that's probably the lowest number he's been in a month.
58:50And it's because of Waddle's injury. I'll put him at a two.
58:54But yeah. How about Denzel Boston? Would you drop Denzel Boston?
58:57Zero. I'd prefer not to. Put him on the twos.
59:00Waddle Robinson. Six. Eleven if it's half PPR or non-PPR.
59:04It's probably closer to eight even if it's full PPR.
59:07All right. Let me. You know what? I'm going to pull up the roster trends here.
59:11I tank Dell. Drop or hold? Drop. He's very droppable.
59:15How about Malik Washington? Five. He has not played well when Douglas has been healthy.
59:19So I'll say seven. And he's very similar to Waddle Robinson.
59:23Half and non-PPR. He's 100% droppable. Are you guys expecting DJ Moore to play this week?
59:27Because, boy, does that make a difference for Keon Coleman?
59:30Yes. You are expecting it. Okay. Yes. We expect it, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
59:36So if you have Keon Coleman and you're looking at Makai Lemon, I assume.
59:40Yeah, you put Lemon first. You put Lemon first.
59:43But if Moore were out, you'd much rather. It's short-term, long-term.
59:46If you know right now DJ Moore is out, I'd rather start Keon Coleman this week.
59:51If you know that Moore is going to play, I wouldn't even want to roster Keon Coleman by comparison to Makai Lemon.
59:58Yeah. Okay. And you could argue that Lemon's got a good short-term anyway.
60:02Because Devontae Smith right now is dealing with this hamstring.
60:05And against Washington. And against Washington. All right. So to the waiver wire, just anything that we missed.
60:11We ranked it earlier. Jamie went Cousins, Brissett, Geno Smith, Aaron Rodgers.
60:14Dave went, I think it was Cousins. I went Cousins, Geno, Brissett.
60:18And then Rodgers. Yeah. Okay. And then after that, it's kind of tough this week.
60:23You know, it's Michael Panix. But Tampa Bay just, they are apparently really good on defense.
60:27Tampa Bay has held Jordan Love, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, and Bryce Young to 17.1 or fewer fantasy points.
60:34And six points per pass and touchdown. That's Michael Panix's matchup.
60:37So it could be tough for him. I will say this.
60:41And I think Tampa Bay's defense is better. He also faced a tough defense in San Francisco and did really well.
60:47He did. Yeah, he did. But Tampa is just like relentless with their pass rush right now.
60:52But if you look at the numbers, points allowed, et cetera, they're very close.
60:57Do you think they win their division, Tampa? It's a great question because Atlanta looked good last week and has looked good at times with Pennix.
61:05And obviously Carolina's looked good at times. I think New Orleans is definitely out of the race.
61:10If I had to put money on a team right now, depending on the odds, I might go Tampa.
61:16What if the odds were three to one? Yeah.
61:18Yeah. That's just food for thought for those who choose to participate in such activities for entertainment purposes only.
61:24Which division is a stupid question, I think. Which division is worse?
61:28NFC East or South? The South. Is worse than the East?
61:31I don't know if it's worse. Oh, wow. I don't think I agree.
61:35They're both pretty bad at this point. Yeah. Like the Eagles are a train wreck right now.
61:40Washington's got all kinds of problems. I mean, the Giants?
61:43I think the Cowboys can get hot and be a scary game.
61:47I think they will. But I think the Giants can keep rolling like they are, too.
61:52It's going to be an interesting finish between those two.
61:55Yeah. Well, the Giants beat them in week one, so that helps for them.
61:59Malik Willis, you know, two straight games with over 20 fantasy points, and he's doing it with his legs.
62:05He's got a rushing touchdown in at least 37 yards, so this is hopefully...
62:10110 yards rushing his last two games. Yeah, and two touchdowns.
62:13Yes. Hopefully what we're getting here from him. New England's tough this week, but Detroit, Colts, Bills after that.
62:19So Malik Willis, you know, good setup. Doesn't necessarily mean like he didn't do well against the Raiders.
62:24That's a great matchup. But he's actually had a pretty tough schedule other than that.
62:29Mm-hmm. He's a great stash, and if your quarterback has a bye in weeks 9, 10, 11, he could be your bye week replacement.
62:36You can get him now if you want. I was really high on Baker Mayfield preseason, and he has had a tough schedule.
62:43And then last week wasn't a tough matchup, but he only threw 11 passes.
62:48Yeah, he just didn't have to do anything. You know, I don't know.
62:52Yeah, I'm not ready to run to Baker at this point.
62:55All right, J.J. McCarthy played better than the fantasy points, 20 of 28 for 252 yards against the Texans, but didn't score a touchdown.
63:02And he's got a good schedule coming out of his bye because Philadelphia, I mean, they've been a good matchup.
63:08Washington after that, and then Fernando Mendoza, it seems at some point it's going to happen.
63:13I made the case for Sam Darnold. Just I think most people are in the same boat here.
63:19It's like one quarterback league, you know, you don't have to go to these guys for the most part.
63:25And we're not there with Bo Nix coming off a good game.
63:28He's facing the Chiefs this week. At running back, check to see if Emmanuel Wilson and Rico Dowdle and Jadarian Price and
63:35Rashad White and Jonah Coleman and Mike Washington are available.
63:38We've spoken a lot about Coleman and White. Is Emmanuel Wilson in the same boat as them or clearly behind Jonah Coleman and Rashad White?
63:46I would say behind from an ad standpoint. But if you told me right now that there's no Charbonnet or Price for
63:53this week, I would start him over the other two guys.
63:56So it's kind of one of those tricky situations where we just don't know how it's going to play out by the end of the week.
64:04Wilson has been very good in three of the last four games.
64:08White's been decent in three of his last four games as well, 11.1 PPR points or more.
64:13There's more long-term appeal for both him and Coleman because we don't know when Ja'Kory Krosky-Meritt is going to return from his groin injury.
64:20He has to miss at least three more games.
64:23And then you have this Coleman situation where Sean Payton says we have to get him more work.
64:28He just comes off of IR and leads them in snaps, in total yards, in routes run, in targets, you know, in
64:35I think it was targets or tied for targets with RJ Harvey.
64:39Like there's just a huge opportunity here, but they're not going to just say, OK, JK and RJ go sit down.
64:45We're not going to play you. You know, those guys are still going to get touches and opportunity.
64:51So it's going to be crowded and it could be very crowded in the in the Seattle backfield as well.
64:57We don't know how that's going to play out either.
65:00OK, and the running backs that are widely available, Seth McGowan is a sneaky one here with Jonathan Taylor potentially being traded.
65:07We'll see what happens. As I said to you yesterday, if we get to four o'clock today and Jonathan Taylor is traded,
65:13he is the most added player by a mile.
65:16The trade deadline, by the way, is not for another couple of weeks.
65:20It's between weeks nine and ten. Correct. But if you are looking to acquire a running back, you do so before the
65:27trade deadline because he can easily get hurt. Well, that's true.
65:30Yeah. OK, we've got. And don't be surprised if the Colts decide to sit Taylor, if that's the case.
65:36Yeah, it's not of a night. But yeah, it's just a tough week because, you know, Jeremiah Love might play.
65:42Cowboys are a good matchup. Damian Pierce. I wonder if the Cardinals stick to what their plan is, which is using Algier
65:49as the second guy after what they've seen from night.
65:52Yeah, they can move night to the second guy.
65:55Yeah, like that was kind of BS, though, because again, it was pretty even last week with.
66:00Right. What I'm saying is Algier was in that second role with love.
66:04Right. Love returns is night. Now the second guy.
66:07Oh, I don't know if they're ready to do that.
66:10Agreed. So, I mean, it would make sense because night's a better runner than Algier at this point.
66:15But does Algier do the little things better than night?
66:18I think. Question mark. Should we be buying low on Jeremiah Love?
66:22We'll talk about that tomorrow. Sure. You got the Eagles situation.
66:25The commanders have had a good run defense this year, but they haven't been quite as good the last few weeks.
66:32But we just don't know who the running back is going to be.
66:36So Damian Pierce, 55% rostered. Elijah Mitchell, 1% rostered.
66:39Then you got Kalon Black. You got Devin Singletary.
66:41I'll ask you, though, you know, Devin Singletary is really if both guys are hurt coming out of the bye in week nine at Philadelphia.
66:49But let's say everyone's healthy. Do you think Tyrone Tracy is worth rostering?
66:53He's 54% rostered, and he split pretty evenly with Scadaboo before his injury.
66:57It's one of those things where the reason I listed Singletary first is because he's the healthy one.
67:03So I referenced both guys in the story. I think you should clearly take a look at Tracy because you've got the
67:09narrative coming into the week of it was going to be a 1-1-1-A.
67:13And, you know, Tracy gets the touchdown in the second quarter.
67:17He looked okay as well, you know, before he left.
67:20I think he only played 10 snaps. Scadaboo looked awesome once he finally got going.
67:24But the Scadaboo injury track record is there. And if Tracy's healthy and Scadaboo's hamstring injury lingers, I mean, you know, he
67:31got flagged for personal foul for running into a player, which is stupid.
67:35But, you know, like that's just his style of play.
67:38So if he has to miss any time, Tracy could be that guy for the Giants.
67:43I just think Singletary short term may be their starter in week nine.
67:47Are these guys that you think about adding on a Saturday afternoon where you drop a Saints player who you don't think
67:54you need anymore and you stash them and get ahead of because these guys are going to be on your waiver wireless next week too.
68:01As guys to consider your third waiver claim or fourth waiver claim.
68:05So you don't there's no there's no like screaming priority to get either Giants running back.
68:10But they might be guys that if you've got the room, you make the move on Saturday to get them.
68:16Not Tuesday. OK, Dave has mentioned Dylan Sampson and Samaj.
68:19It's gross. Yeah, we're looking for guys that might get you somewhere between seven and 10 PPR points.
68:25And so here's that list. These are running backs where let's say you prioritize other positions or you get you put in
68:31from a gallon first and you just need a warm body to help you out in week number eight.
68:37Samson is at the top of the list for me, followed by P.
68:41Ryan. And then it's just it's so gross. Like you're just hoping for a touchdown from Chris Rodriguez or a little bit more work from Kamani by Dell.
68:50A miracle from Tyler Algier, to be perfectly frank.
68:53Elijah Mitchell comes into the fray as well. But those are the running backs that you could always double back for with your fourth, fifth, sixth waiver claims.
69:01If if you need a running back for week eight.
69:04All right. So a wide receiver. We've discussed Omar Cooper Jr.
69:08is a must have. But so is Debo Samuel if he's available, even though they have a buy this week.
69:14You know, that's the guy that he was he was producing most weeks.
69:18Wasn't getting a ton of targets, but getting enough.
69:20And that was with, you know, basically everybody healthy.
69:23You know, Keon Coleman could be interesting if DJ Moore is out.
69:27But right now we're approaching it as if DJ Moore will play.
69:31You've got Cortland Sutton. You might want to hang on to in case Jalen Waddle misses time.
69:36But, you know, Jalen Waddle has been so good this year.
69:39And then Casey Concepcion is the number one ad.
69:42Caleb Douglas. He just needs the ball more. I mean, this guy is really exciting.
69:47Holy cow. What a move he made in his route on his first touchdown.
69:51And then what a move he made after the catch on his second touchdown.
69:55He had three targets, 70 yards and two touchdowns.
69:58Get Caleb Douglas the ball. Antonio Williams. Oh, wait.
70:01We moved Makai Lemon ahead of Antonio Williams. Makai Lemon, Antonio Williams.
70:04I should put Shakir ahead of Williams, too. I think, you know, as long as you stay alphabetical within the rookies.
70:11Okay. Yeah, right. Let's not move Adonai Mitchell to the top.
70:14We can move Jordan Tyson ahead of Antonio Williams.
70:17We could do that. And Tyson is another guy with big upside that's got to buy this week.
70:22And maybe he's able to play in week nine against Cleveland.
70:26Ryan Flannoy. Jamie mentioned three straight games with 11 or more fantasy points.
70:30Kendrick Bourne is facing the Cowboys. So if he gets his eight targets, you know, his typical eight.
70:35So he's got eight, eight and six targets the last three games.
70:39He could turn that into, you know, a flexible, flexi game.
70:42Kendrick Bourne. And then there's Travis Hunter. At tight end, Pat Frymuth is the only guy in that range of 66.
70:49You know, 85, 80% rostered or whatever. I like the other tight ends better.
70:53Yeah, he hasn't really been that good. So Hunter Henry, TJ Hawkinson should go Conquo.
70:58Plenty of debate about who to go with there.
71:00I think going with Henry first makes the most sense.
71:03And then I would put Oconquo second and Hawkinson third.
71:06And Jamie has Hawkinson second, Oconquo third. And then pick a Rams tight end.
71:11If you were going to pick Higby, Parkinson or Davis Allen, who would it be?
71:15Parkinson. Okay. And then Terrence Ferguson is maybe the long-term play there.
71:19Yep. Right. Hopefully he's practicing this week. That'd be great.
71:22Yep. And he's out there in 80% of leagues.
71:25I watched the tape of Michael Mayer this morning to see what the Rams did to take him out of the game.
71:32Because he had three catches for 32 yards on three targets.
71:35And I think two of his plays, his better plays, were kind of late in the game when the Rams had a big lead.
71:42They fell back into zone coverage a little bit.
71:45The Rams smother people near the line of scrimmage.
71:48They do not allow dump-off passes. They allow the lowest completion rate in the NFL of 0-7 yards, which is basically where most tight ends live.
71:560-7 area. Most tight ends live in 0-7 area yards.
71:59This was a terrible matchup for Michael Mayer. We knew it going in.
72:03The Jets are fifth best against tight ends. But the last two weeks, Colson Loveland had a good game.
72:09The last three weeks. Loveland had a good game.
72:11Hunter Henry had a good game. Greg Dolcich had a really good game.
72:15So Mayer is like a pendulum. It is a bad game.
72:19Great game. I would go back to him this week.
72:22Do you think that Cousins gets pressured a lot?
72:25Because that's usually been the thing. Maybe. He gets a lot of work when Cousins is pressured.
72:30And he's not really a big factor in the red zone.
72:33So he's like half of what Hunter Henry is, and it's the bad half.
72:38It's a good week for tight end streamers. I'll say that.
72:41It is. It really is. And guys that you might be able to use the rest of season.
72:46Because Brenton Strange is playing well, too. And then there's Greg Dolcich and Mason Taylor, which are a little bit more desperation.
72:53And Mike Kosicki. I don't know if Taylor is desperation.
72:56I mean, again, it was the Dolphins. But it's not like the Raiders are great.
73:01Raiders are 29th against tight ends. They've allowed eight touchdowns to tight ends.
73:05So, yeah, maybe I'm wrong. By the way, there was a play.
73:08I showed it on Beyond the Box score. Mason Taylor was wide open.
73:12No one near within 15 yards of him for what should have been another touchdown.
73:17I'm surprised Gino missed the wide open guy. And then on the next play, he threw an interception.
73:23Oh, man. It was really not a good day for Gino, even though he scored 28 fantasy points.
73:28That's it for the—oh, sorry. DSTs, we like the Jaguars.
73:31We like the Bengals. We like the Bears. And at Kicker, we don't love the Bears, but, you know, I guess not
73:38a super deep week of streamers at DST. No.
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