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Who Should You Be Worried About? Collins, Henry, Chase Brown, & More! (10/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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56 min
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Oct 26, 2026
Published
Mon, October 26, 2026
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Chase BrownNico CollinsGarrett WilsonTre TuckerCaleb DouglasCarnell TateDenzel BostonKenneth Walker IIIOmar Cooper Jr.Patrick MahomesTravis KelceZay FlowersAdonai MitchellAntonio Williams
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Adonai Mitchell

PositiveUsage26:59

Trey Tucker shows a play where Adonai Mitchell was available for a 65-yard touchdown, but Geno Smith chose to throw to Adonai Mitchell's option instead of a shorter route to Garrett Wilson. This demonstrates Mitchell's role in the Seahawks' passing game and his ability to create explosive plays.

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Antonio Williams

PositiveSleeper28:00

Trey Tucker identifies Antonio Williams as a massive sleeper in the rookie wide receiver class. Tucker notes Williams has looked good both on tape and by the metrics, and with Terry McLaurin out for the year and Jayden Daniels throwing well, Williams has significant opportunity. Tucker emphasizes this is a player no one really talks about but represents a big sleeper opportunity.

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Caleb Douglas

NegativeRole0:49

Caleb Douglas is among the rookie wide receivers being discussed as part of the episode's coverage of emerging talent.

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PositiveBreakout30:00

Trey Tucker suggests Caleb Douglas could be in the Carnell Tate range if Miami builds on what he did in week 7 and if the team figured out something during their bye week to pass the football more consistently. Tucker notes Douglas had 7 targets for a 26% target share and 94 yards in his first game, and has been productive in 2 of his 3 games played. Tucker also notes Douglas looked awesome in the preseason and on film, suggesting he could become Miami's number-one receiver.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeMatchup8:00

Trey Tucker suggests that Sam Darnold could outperform Caleb Williams in the coming week, with Williams facing the Seahawks while Darnold faces a more favorable matchup in Chicago.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeRole0:38

Carnell Tate is among the rookie wide receivers being discussed as part of the episode's coverage of emerging talent.

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PositiveBreakout22:00

Trey Tucker identifies Carnell Tate as the rookie wide receiver with the most upside and the only one he's confident can average 14+ PPR points per game rest of season. Tucker emphasizes Tate's immense target share and strong target-per-route-run rate despite the Titans being the worst offense in football. He notes Tate is top-15 in first-three-target rate among all players and has no real target competition, making him the clear choice among 2025 rookie receivers.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection0:21

Chase Brown was mentioned as one of the players everyone was freaked out about following the previous night's games, suggesting concern about his recent performance or role.

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NegativeProjection35:00

Trey Tucker ranks Chase Brown third-least worried among the four concerning players, noting both Chase Brown and Garrett Wilson started slow last year and are in the exact same situation this year. Tucker expresses uncertainty about whether to be worried, suggesting the slow start may not be predictive of season-long performance.

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NegativeUsage40:00

Chase Brown played 75.5% of snaps, up from 60% in week five, showing increased role; however, he hasn't scored a touchdown since week one despite being drafted for touchdown upside in a high-scoring offense. Samaje Perine scored a one-yard goal line touchdown that could have gone to Brown.

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PositiveRole40:40

Chase Brown remained in the game on multiple goal-line plays late in the fourth quarter (first, second, and third and goal from the two-yard line), suggesting he's still involved in high-leverage situations despite Samaje Perine's goal-line touchdown. Brown had six runs out of shotgun, contradicting reports that Perine was more suited for shotgun runs and Brown for under-center runs.

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NegativeBust41:43

Trey Tucker expresses frustration with Chase Brown's decision-making and execution on well-blocked plays. On one play with a huge hole between his right guard and right tackle, Brown took an extra step forward instead of hitting the hole, gaining only five yards. On another well-blocked play, Brown was tackled for a loss when his center got destroyed. Tucker calls him and Hampton "nightmare picks," indicating significant disappointment with the investment.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveUsage20:00

Trey Tucker notes that Colston Loveland has been getting more and more first-three targets for the Bears, posting a 41% first-three-target rate in week 7. Tucker describes this as great and amazing for a tight end, and says he would feel confident in Loveland in the Bears' week 8 matchup against Seattle.

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D'Andre Swift

NegativeMatchup20:00

Trey Tucker expresses general confidence in DeAndre Swift for the Bears but tempers it with concern about the week 8 matchup against Seattle. Tucker notes the Bears' offense has been unpredictable all season with no momentum or trend, and while he'd normally feel confident in Swift, the Seahawks defense is one of the two defenses he wants to avoid most for fantasy purposes.

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Denzel Boston

NegativeRole0:38

Denzel Boston is among the rookie wide receivers being discussed as part of the episode's coverage of emerging talent.

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NegativeProjection26:00

Trey Tucker notes Denzel Boston has a 16-yard average depth of target with consistent high ADOTs week-to-week, but expresses concern about consistency. Tucker acknowledges Boston got a deep end-zone target this week that was overthrown and had another deep ball where he was wide open but was missed by Deshaun Watson. Tucker suggests combining Boston's deep-ball profile with Concepcion's consistency would create an ideal receiver, but Boston alone will likely produce big games sporadically rather than consistently.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeProjection0:21

Derrick Henry was mentioned as one of the players everyone was freaked out about following the previous night's games, suggesting concern about his recent performance or role.

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Emanuel Wilson

NegativeRole8:30

Trey Tucker notes that Emmanuel Wilson was not particularly effective as a backup running back until a long touchdown run late in the game against Seattle, suggesting limited overall impact despite the one big play.

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Garrett Wilson

NegativeProjection0:21

Garrett Wilson was mentioned as one of the players everyone was freaked out about following the previous night's games, suggesting concern about his recent performance or role.

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NegativeProjection35:00

Trey Tucker is most worried about Garrett Wilson among the four concerning players. Tucker notes Wilson got extremely lucky that the Jets lost every other offensive skill position player to start the year, which inflated his target share to 36% in those games. Tucker expects his target share to drop below 30%, and on a Jets offense with that lower target share, Wilson won't produce well because he doesn't create much after the catch and isn't getting downfield looks—he's an accumulator who needs high volume. Tucker also highlights a brutal end-of-season schedule: bye, Patrick Surtain, Christian Gonzalez, and Vikings, which would be really bad for Wilson if those corners are healthy.

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NegativeProjection38:32

Trey Tucker is worried about Garrett Wilson alongside Nico Collins; projects Wilson to be on the border of a top 24 receiver for the rest of season, suggesting downside from preseason expectations when Wilson was drafted earlier than Collins.

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PositiveUsage42:54

Trey Tucker highlights Garrett Wilson's separation and availability in the Seahawks' passing game, showing a play where Wilson was extremely open but did not receive the target from Geno Smith. This demonstrates Wilson's consistent route running and positioning, though Smith's poor decision-making prevented him from capitalizing on the opportunity.

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J.J. McCarthy

PositiveRole10:03

JJ McCarthy's skillset (particularly his option-run capability) fits well with Cam Skaggs' running style; the Giants' offensive scheme has been adjusted to leverage McCarthy's ability to keep the ball on read-option plays, which freezes end men on the line of scrimmage and enhances the run game.

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Jalin Moore

NegativeInjury0:15

Jalen Moore, the Chiefs' starting offensive tackle, is in the concussion protocol and missed the game against Seattle, creating potential offensive line disruption.

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Jared Goff

NegativeMatchup8:00

Trey Tucker suggests that Sam Darnold could outperform Jared Goff in the coming week, with Goff facing the Vikings while Darnold faces a more favorable matchup in Chicago.

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Jaxon Smith-Njigba

PositiveProjection44:47

JSN is averaging 28 PPR points per game through the first seven weeks of the season, the most in NFL history through the first seven weeks; he has eight touchdowns compared to four at this point last year, and 10 total last year, demonstrating elite scoring pace despite averaging 3.8 yards per route compared to 4.3 last year, with the Seahawks running more routes due to their running back room and game scripts.

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Jordyn Tyson

NegativeRole0:49

Jordan Tyson is among the rookie wide receivers being discussed; he is expected to play in a couple of weeks, suggesting he has been sidelined or unavailable.

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Kenneth Walker III

NegativeProjection0:35

Kenneth Walker's poor fantasy performance in the Seattle-Kansas City game (three points) should not be viewed as a sign of decline; the game featured an extreme game script where Seattle dominated time of possession and the Chiefs had minimal offensive plays (50 plays, 24:09 possession), making it an anomaly rather than a reflection of Walker's talent or role.

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NegativeRole3:06

Trey Tucker expresses no concerns with Kenneth Walker's role or performance. The Seahawks' strong third-down conversion rate (11 of 16) versus the Chiefs' poor rate (3 of 11) kept Seattle on the field consistently, supporting Walker's usage. Tucker explicitly states "I don't think anyone's going to be worried about Kenneth Walker."

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Malachi Fields

PositiveSleeper29:00

Trey Tucker identifies Malachi Fields as another big sleeper, noting he's catching every pass thrown to him and was a big factor in the game plan in week 7. Tucker cites a 23% target share with J.J. McCarthy, which is significant. Tucker also notes Isaiah Likely is banged up and playing through an injury, which could increase Fields' opportunity. Tucker acknowledges uncertainty about consistency but views Fields as a clear sleeper.

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Mason Taylor

PositiveUsage43:02

Trey Tucker identifies a play where Mason Taylor was wide open with no defender within 15-20 yards, representing a clear touchdown opportunity that Geno Smith missed. Tucker notes this should have been a three-touchdown game for Taylor, highlighting his role and availability in the passing game despite Smith's poor quarterback play.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveProjection47:30

Golden is transcending talent levels this year with exceptional production; he has 69 targets in seven games with four games of 12+ targets, and has left over 20 fantasy points on the field in the last two games due to dropped passes and missed touchdowns. His target volume and consistency suggest significant upside if he improves catch rate.

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Nico Collins

NegativeProjection0:21

Nico Collins was mentioned as one of the players everyone was freaked out about following the previous night's games, suggesting concern about his recent performance or role.

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NegativeRole37:00

Trey Tucker is more worried about Nico Collins than Garrett Wilson based on preseason expectations, though he notes they'd be closer together if drafting today. Tucker cites multiple concerns: Collins has been shadowed by Deontay Banks for two straight weeks, and while the Giants are giving him help, his route participation is only 83% and 80% the last two years—not a superstar receiver level. Most concerning, Collins has run only 16 routes with Marvin Harrison Jr. on the field and has just 2 targets on those 16 routes. Tucker notes Collins' 23.2% target-per-route-run rate is his lowest in four years, and with Harrison Jr. barely playing but getting a 50% target-per-route-run rate when on field, Collins' opportunity will continue to shrink.

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NegativeProjection38:32

Trey Tucker is more worried about Nico Collins based on preseason expectations; had him about a round and a half earlier than Garrett Wilson in preseason but would draft them closer together now. Tucker used to view his team with Collins as set and loved it, expecting points every week, but no longer feels that way about the team despite believing Collins will be a solid rest-of-season number two receiver.

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PositiveRole38:45

Despite recent rough games, Collins plays in a high-opportunity offense with CJ Stroud, who prior to the Giants game was the only quarterback with 200+ air yards in every game. The Giants were able to shut Collins down, but no other team has been able to; the Texans' loss was partly due to game script (54 plays, similar to a blowout situation).

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NegativeProjection46:56

Nico Collins is cited as an example of a player who can disappoint in fantasy despite elite talent; the speaker notes that Collins just gave them two points in a recent game, contrasting his inconsistency with Zay Flowers' reliability, suggesting Collins' floor can be problematic for fantasy purposes.

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Noah Gray

NegativeUsage6:00

In the Chiefs' game against Seattle, Noah Gray received a significant portion of the team's receiving production, with over half of Mahomes' 131 receiving yards after catch going to Gray and Travis Kelce combined, indicating elevated usage in the recent game.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

NegativeRole0:38

Omar Cooper Jr. is among the rookie wide receivers being discussed as part of the episode's coverage of emerging talent.

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NegativeBreakout19:18

Trey Tucker highlights Omar Cooper Jr. as having top-24 wide receiver upside rest of season after a 5-catch, 114-yard, 1-TD performance in week 7. Tucker notes the Jets are getting Cooper one-on-one matchups as a counter to defenses taking away Garrett Wilson, and he's impressed by Cooper's route-winning ability and consistency. Cooper is averaging 16.3 PPR points per game and leads the NFL in fantasy points per route run. Tucker acknowledges some concern about potential Clinic Nick involvement but believes Geno Smith is playing well enough to keep Cooper in the WR2 mix.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeUsage5:05

Trey Tucker notes that Patrick Mahomes' best plays against Seattle came when breaking contain in the pocket and improvising off-script. The Chiefs offense lacks identity on script and off-script, though Mahomes can still make plays when given the opportunity. The ceiling for the offense feels diminished despite Mahomes' individual playmaking ability.

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NegativeProjection5:30

Trey Tucker expresses concern about the Kansas City offense's ceiling, noting that while Mahomes can still make plays and won't face Seattle every week, the overall offensive ceiling feels limited; Mahomes struggled against Seattle with 165 passing yards, 131 of which came after the catch, and his deep ball production has been poor (7 of 18 on deep balls 20+ air yards for 285 yards, no touchdowns, two picks in first four games; zero completions on three deep ball attempts in the last two games).

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Rashee Rice

PositiveRole6:30

Trey Tucker anticipates Rasheed Rice's return from injury will have a meaningful impact on the Chiefs offense, though he believes Rice's return will benefit Rice more than Mahomes; Tucker speculates Rice could be a top-20 or even top-12 receiver upon return, but notes the Chiefs may revert to 'gimmicky stuff' they relied on last year with Rice to move the ball on script, suggesting the offense's underlying issues may persist.

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Sam Darnold

PositiveMatchup7:30

Trey Tucker notes Sam Darnold has a favorable upcoming schedule with Chicago, Arizona, and Las Vegas before a bye, and suggests Darnold's history of performing well in good matchups means he could outperform Caleb Williams and Jared Goff in the coming weeks; Darnold crushed the Commanders but struggled against the Chargers, 49ers, and Chiefs (20 of 28, 257 yards, one touchdown, one interception in the end zone against Seattle).

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Travis Kelce

NegativeProjection5:15

On pace for 81 targets, 727 yards, and four touchdowns for the season; ranked number eight tight end per game but the source questions whether he qualifies as a top-eight tight end given recent performance. Trey Tucker notes Kelce was disappointing against Seattle despite eight targets, with two coming on the final two plays; he was largely invisible for much of the game, had a drop, and missed a play where he was open for 10-15 yards. After strong performances in the first two weeks, Kelce has been "crap for the last four weeks."

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NegativeRole6:00

Trey Tucker expresses concern about Kelce's consistency, stating he is not an every-week play despite being playable in good matchups; in the recent Seattle game, Kelce underperformed with over half of Patrick Mahomes' 131 receiving yards after catch going to Kelce and Noah Gray combined, yet Kelce 'didn't have that good of a game.'

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Tre Tucker

PositiveUsage0:32

Trey Tucker is in the best two-game stretch of his career with a career-high 12 targets on Sunday, signaling increased offensive involvement and target volume.

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NegativeBust48:30

Tucker is characterized as the biggest tease in fantasy football; he never puts back-to-back good games together and tends to break people's hearts. While he posted 200 yards, 10 catches, and three touchdowns in his last two games (48 fantasy points vs. Bills and Raiders), this production came with garbage time inflation and he was started in only 65% of leagues, reflecting low confidence in his consistency.

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NegativeRole49:15

Trey Tucker's outlook is threatened by an imminent quarterback change in Las Vegas; Trey Tucker believes Mendoza will be considerably worse for the entire Raiders pass game than Kirk Cousins. Mendoza is expected to play slower, pass less, and rely heavily on first-read progressions, which will likely benefit tight end Bowers over Tucker. This QB transition poses significant downside risk to Tucker's target volume and efficiency.

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NegativeUsage50:30

Tucker has six red zone targets already this season, compared to 10 last year and seven the year before, indicating a slight decline in red zone opportunity share. He maintains a 26% target per route run rate in the red zone, showing consistent efficiency when targeted in scoring areas.

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Tyquan Thornton

PositiveRole3:59

Trey Tucker identifies Tyquan Thornton as playing a much bigger role in the Chiefs offense than previously recognized, with the ability to stretch the defense and make plays downfield with rapport with Patrick Mahomes. Thornton's absence is a major problem for the Chiefs offense, which now feels "in quicksand" without his vertical presence and ability to open up the offense.

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Tyrone Tracy

NegativeRole12:07

Tyrone Tracy Jr. was splitting carries evenly with Cam Skaggs before Tracy got hurt, suggesting a timeshare situation prior to his injury.

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Xavier Worthy

NegativeRole4:00

Trey Tucker argues Xavier Worthy has no chance of impacting the vertical plane in the Chiefs offense. While Worthy can make plays underneath and had some good after-the-catch opportunities in prior weeks, he is not helpful in the way Tyquan Thornton was at stretching the defense and opening up the offense downfield. Without Thornton's vertical presence, the Chiefs offense feels "in quicksand."

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Zach Charbonnet

NegativeRole8:30

Trey Tucker expresses uncertainty about Zach Charbonnet's status and role going forward, noting he was hoping Emmanuel Wilson wouldn't be effective as a backup, but Wilson did have a strong long touchdown run; Tucker is curious to see what happens next week if Charbonnet is able to play.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveProjection18:18

Zay Flowers is the third-most similar player to JSN dating back to 2013 through an initial seven weeks; he's averaging 3.7 yards per route on a 33% target per route rate with a 15% first down per route rate with Tyler Huntley, but with Lamar Jackson on the field he's averaging 7.8 yards per route on 45 routes (roughly one game and a half to five quarters), accumulating 65 PPR points in that split, demonstrating elite efficiency when paired with his starting quarterback.

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PositiveBreakout43:54

Trey Tucker identifies Zay Flowers as this year's JSN (Jaxon Smith-Njigba), noting his elite post-catch ability has improved even from earlier in his career. Tucker expresses excitement for Flowers' potential once Lamar Jackson returns from injury, though he doesn't expect Flowers to reach JSN's historic level. Through seven weeks, Flowers is averaging 28 fantasy points per game (best of all time) with 3.8 yards per route run compared to JSN's 4.3 yards per route run last year.

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Full transcript

Episode Transcript

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0:00Whatever's holding you back, HIMS has a real plan for it.
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0:17What's up and welcome to the show. We're going beyond the box score today.
0:21We're recapping Seattle's thrashing of Kansas City 20-3. We're talking about the players that we were talking about last night that everybody's freaked out about.
0:28Garrett Wilson, Nico Collins, Derrick Henry, Chase Brown. What's going on with them?
0:32What's going on with Trey Tucker? The best two-game stretch of his career.
0:36A career high in targets with 12 on Sunday.
0:38Who is this year's JSN? And rookie wide receivers we have to talk about.
0:42Omar Cooper Jr. and Casey Concepcion and Carnell Tate and Denzel Boston and Jeremy Bernard and anyone I may have forgotten about.
0:49Jordan Tyson. Mekhi Lemon. Yeah, whatever. Caleb Douglas. Caleb Douglas.
0:52Mekhi Lemon plays tonight. Jordan Tyson hopefully plays in a couple of weeks.
0:55We'll see. And that's about it, I think, for the rookie wide receivers.
0:59Okay. Welcome everyone to Fantasy Football Today presented by HIMSS.
1:02Whatever's holding you back, HIMSS has a real plan for it.
1:05Be confident. Be HIMSS. I hope all of your fantasy teams were HIM this weekend.
1:09Seattle was HIM last night. They beat the Chiefs 20-3.
1:12The Chiefs have a little bit of a kicker problem.
1:15Harrison Buckner missing two field goals. The Chiefs also played this game without starting offensive tackle Jalen Moore, who's in the concussion protocol.
1:22Meanwhile, the Seahawks lost Rashid Shahid to, I believe, a knee injury.
1:25And I don't know the extent of that one.
1:28But Charles Cross, their left tackle, he's going to miss some time with a high ankle sprain we just learned.
1:34So that's a tough break for them. But, Jacob, the Chiefs fan, what was your opinion, your fantasy takeaways from last night's game?
1:40Uh, JSN is him. I mean, my gosh. Like, Monser Delane, so like, you know, LeJerry Sneed wasn't maybe doing the best job on him.
1:48That press coverage from the slot attempt looked about like mine would.
1:51But Monser Delane was actually doing a really good job on him and it just like did not matter, dude.
1:57Like, he was uncoverable yesterday. You dig into the JSN stats and they're better than last year, basically.
2:02Um, just ridiculous stuff. Can't stop the guy. Um, other than that, like the Chiefs side of things, like, it's just one of those games.
2:09It's a weird, I think this game really is a good, uh, like example of why we focus on all of the
2:15nitty gritty advanced stats and stuff like that. Because like there are games sometimes where you run into an extremely weird game script.
2:22And if it's not on an island like this, if it just happens to be with all the Sunday noon games, you're
2:28like, how the hell did this player give me three points or whatever?
2:32You know, like, are they a bus? Is this?
2:35And it's like, no, there's nothing wrong with Kenneth Walker.
2:38It's that literally no player is safe from this type of a game.
2:41Yeah. Where you run into an absolute buzzsaw of a Seattle defense and the Seattle offense gets, I don't know if you
2:48want to call it lucky, but they kept converting on all these third downs and stuff that just like kept them on the field all the time.
2:56The Chiefs barely had any plays. I'm sure you have that information.
2:5950 plays for the Chiefs, 24 minutes and nine seconds of position.
3:02Yeah. Seattle, uh, let's see on third down. They were 11 of 16.
3:06The Chiefs were three of 11. I don't think anyone's going to be worried about Kenneth Walker.
3:11You know, look, the Seahawks are great, but yeah, you know, worthy.
3:15Kelsey, you were hoping to get another good game out of him.
3:18I didn't necessarily think it would be a good game was the Seahawks.
3:22They're so good at eliminating yak. Um, but Kelsey's really disappointing.
3:25Cause he got eight targets. Two of them were on the last two plays of the game.
3:30Like the day targets doesn't even really, to me accurately describe his role in this game.
3:34Cause that seems like he was heavily targeted. And I guess technically he kind of was, but he's pretty invisible for much of this game.
3:42He had a drop. He had a ball where he wasn't even looking and it wasn't considered a drop.
3:47Like he actually could have had a pretty good game.
3:50There was a play where he was open probably for 10, 15 yards and, um, and my homes missed him.
3:56He was kind of hit as he threw. So, I mean, this could have been like a 14 point PPR fantasy game,
4:02but still, I still, Dan wouldn't have come out of it feeling that great about Travis Kelsey.
4:07You know, in the first two weeks of the year looked really good.
4:11He had like a big long play against Denver.
4:13Um, I don't know. It's been, it's been crap for the last four weeks, last four games.
4:18He's on pace for 81 targets, 727 yards, four touchdowns, just really bad.
4:22Uh, so what are you thinking about Kelsey who for the season is actually the number eight tight end per game, but
4:28I don't know if we consider him a top eight tight end.
4:32Which is amazing. Yeah. Considering we wouldn't most likely, I mean, I think the chiefs have a Tyquan Thornton problem disguised as a Rasheed Rice problem.
4:39And it's like Tyquan Thornton played such a bigger role in this offense, just being able to stretch the defense out and
4:46make these plays and adjustments down the field with a rapport that Moe's has.
4:50I think we're well past the point now, as Jacob has outlined throughout my lifetime talking football with Jacob Gibbs of thinking
4:56Xavier worthy as any chance of being having any kind of impact on the vertical plane.
5:01He can do some things underneath. I think Jacob posted a nice cut up of him from the two weeks before this,
5:07where he had some good after the catch plays, but he's really not helpful in the way that Tyquan Thornton was as
5:13far as opening up the offense and the defense.
5:16And without him on the field, it feels like this chiefs offense is in quicksand.
5:20That's what felt like the plays that were made in the passing game.
5:24We're just my homes breaking contain in the pocket and then doing things out off script on the commentators mispronounced the wire
5:30receiver to an wire receiver three's names last night.
5:33Yeah. Yeah. Who Jalen Royals and Jalen Royals. They called like Jacob or something.
5:37I don't remember what it was exactly. And Andrew Armstrong.
5:40They also called the wrong name. They called him Anthony Armstrong.
5:43They did. That guy had like a 56% route rate.
5:46That's playing a ton. Anthony Armstrong used to play for the commanders actually.
5:50So they were probably thinking about him, but yeah, they have a problem right now on offense.
5:55There's no identity in my mind on script off script.
5:57My homes can still make some plays and they're not going to face Seattle every week, but the ceiling for this offense feels, feels down for me.
6:05Um, and I have no concerns with Walker. I don't think Travis Kelsey is in every week play, but I think you
6:12can still play him in good matchups outside of those two.
6:15I can't feel confident starting any other chief. What about my homes?
6:18What about Rasheed Rice? I include my homes in that 165 passing yards or receiving yards at least 131 of those came
6:24after the catch last night and over half of them were Kelsey and Noah Gray.
6:29And we're like, Kelsey didn't have that good of a game.
6:32It's like there was nothing. Do you think Rasheed Rice when he comes back is, is going to be a, is he
6:38going to be a, you know, a good start, a top 20 receiver, maybe, maybe even top 12.
6:44Who knows? And B, is he going to make Patrick my homes usable?
6:47Because look, this was Seattle and next week they get done, which is going to be tough.
6:52But then Jets, Falcons, Cardinals bills. That's a really good stretch right there.
6:56So I don't want to, you don't want to over, you don't want to overreact, but you also want to feel, at
7:02least I feel like Rice's return will mean more for rice than it will for my homes because I have a feeling
7:09the chiefs are going to go back to the gimmicky stuff.
7:12They had to rely on last year with rice just to move the ball on script.
7:16That's at least where I'm at right now with it.
7:19Passion will homes in his first, uh, four games.
7:22He was, um, seven of 18 on deep balls, 20 or more air yards, seven of 18, 285 yards, no touchdowns, two picks last two games.
7:29No, no, uh, zero for three over three on deep ball attempts.
7:33All three were last night and four of his seven deep ball completions this year were to take one Thornton.
7:39So I'm glad we talked about that, Dan, because it is underrated what he did for this, for this offense.
7:44Uh, on the other side of the ball, you know, Sam Darnold has had some tough matchups recently.
7:50He has faced the, um, let's see, he is, I'm sorry.
7:53He has faced the commanders and he crushed them.
7:55Then the chargers, niners and chiefs. And he struggled, uh, last night, like 20 of 28, 257 and a touchdown.
8:01But they threw that interception in the end zone.
8:04He has a good game if he doesn't make that play.
8:07Um, but next up we've got Chicago, Arizona, Las Vegas, and a buy.
8:11But the next three games, like you actually, I'm not saying you have to keep Sam Darnold, but it wouldn't shock me
8:17if he's better than Caleb Williams this week. It wouldn't shock me if he's better than Jared golf.
8:22Golf has the Vikings. Caleb has the Seahawks. Darnold has a history going back to last year of being pretty damn good in good matchups.
8:29So he's got some coming up. Um, you know, I, I was hoping as a Zach Charbonnet manager that Emmanuel Wilson wouldn't be that good.
8:36And he wasn't, I feel like he wasn't really that good until that last long touchdown run.
8:41But I'm curious to see what happens next week.
8:44If Charbonnet is able to play. And I think that's pretty much it for this game.
8:49So, so there you go. Uh, okay. Beyond the box score.
8:52We've got, it's got its own podcast feed. If you enjoy this show and you want to hear more of this kind
8:58of stuff, Dan and Jacob have you covered all throughout the week.
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9:08Anywhere you listen, incredible show. They dive into the, the nitty gritty, the usage, a lot of things that we don't get
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9:17You can hear on beyond the box score and guys, let's talk about him.
9:21Now it's time for he's him sponsored by him.
9:24There's the guy you are right now. And there's the guy you could be.
9:28Man, do I feel that way about some of my fantasy teams and whatever's holding you back.
9:33Hims has a real plan for it. Be confident.
9:35Be him. Jacob, who is him this week? I mean, I feel like it's just Jason, but, um, I also want to
9:42hear a New York giants opinion on the Kim Scadaboo bounce back.
9:45Cause I feel like their running back room was kind of him yesterday.
9:49And man, so it's funny you say that we didn't talk about this before the show, but that's my him of the week.
9:55And I'm really excited about it being cam Scadaboo because earlier on our beyond the box score Tuesday show last weekend, I
10:02think we touched on it last Monday too. There was a lot of concern about Scadaboo.
10:06And I came out with the opinion that I think that Scadaboo as soon as this week against the Texans will be the clear lead back.
10:14And everyone's like, I was Tracy. It's turning over to him.
10:17I said, no, and I'm happy that was right because this is exactly what the giants need in my opinion.
10:23And I just watched the tape of that game.
10:25Cam Scadaboo from an individual effort standpoint was absolutely phenomenal in the game.
10:29The contact balance, the touchdown run was a one of one type player who can make that play.
10:34Maybe him, Henry, a few others, uh, the long burst, the two long runs that he had were great vision cuts by
10:41him showed me that like lateral jump cut ability that I saw all throughout his Arizona state tape and his rookie tape
10:47felt like there was more burst yesterday. The key is they believe in him being the engine of this offense.
10:53He brings a different kind of energy to the offense.
10:56And most importantly, he fits JJ McCarthy's skillset really well.
10:59We saw multiple runs in this game. I saw at least on tape where the end man on the line of scrimmage
11:05had to pause, had to hold up because he didn't know if McCarthy was going to keep the ball.
11:10That makes such a difference in the run game, specifically for the giants.
11:14I felt like they were able to also add more elements to the run game.
11:18They ran pistol a lot and out of pistol, they had some of their most explosive run plays.
11:24They're able to pull the guard in the center and get moving in a way that looked and resembled more of the
11:30Greg Roman chargers, the Greg Roman Ravens, to be honest in the run game.
11:34So Scadaboo to me is the clear lead back.
11:37You know, we'll still see some red zone touches stolen.
11:40It's not what it was last year when he was the all time, you know, red zone guy.
11:45And I'm seeing from the chat, I would sell.
11:47Yeah. Two weeks ago, I was low on Scadaboo.
11:50You're right. But last week I came back around.
11:52Because of the quarterback change. The quarterback change. Yeah, exactly.
11:55That's that's the point. I was low two weeks ago because of Winston.
11:59And now obviously we have JJ McCarthy. Yeah, I feel like everything you said is probably true, but it almost feels like a best case scenario.
12:07I don't know that I trust it so much.
12:09He was splitting pretty evenly with Tyrone Tracy Jr.
12:12Before Tracy got hurt. He had a 19 yard carry on basically a trick play out of the tush push formation.
12:18And then in overtime, the Texans defense just self-destructed.
12:20And you saw back to back plays where Scadaboo had a long run and then Singletary had a long run.
12:26I don't know if the Texans were tired or they, you know, they were on the field a lot.
12:32But yeah, I don't know. I yeah, obviously was a good it was a really good step in the right direction for him.
12:38He's probably not this good, but I don't know.
12:41He did. I mean, he had hit eight missed force tackles yesterday and he was averaging two and a half per game coming in.
12:48Yeah, I don't know that I would sell or anything like that.
12:51It just yeah, I think be happy. Be happy that you have a guy that you can start like we can't we
12:58can't just, you know, react every time a running back has a bad game.
13:02Be like, oh, he stinks, whatever. You're probably going to have some good games going forward.
13:06Their schedule is not really that bad. Like I didn't think they had a chance of being good in the game.
13:12The fact that I did. No one did, you know, is encouraging.
13:16And they get Philly out of the by Philly's defense has been kind of average.
13:20Then they got like Washington after that, I think so.
13:23Whatever. Right. All right. That is Cam Scadaboo. And that was He's Him sponsored by HIMS.
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13:34Your news and notes. Clint Kubiak, the Raiders head coach, did not rule out a quarterback change, which is if you just
13:40look at the numbers, this is a top five passing offense.
13:43And it's not even because they're throwing a ton.
13:46Their yards per attempt is pretty solid. Touchdown rate is fifth, I think, fifth best.
13:50But we've seen the last two weeks, it's been a lot of garbage time, a lot of catch up stuff.
13:56And eventually they're going to have to, I think they've lost four in a row, right?
14:00They're going to have to make a change at some point, probably.
14:04And Shane Steichen is not considering a quarterback change yet for the Colts.
14:08At running back, you got Tyrone Tracy and Cam Scadaboo leaving with injuries.
14:11Thankfully, they go into their bye. Jameer Gibbs, that was so awkward at the end.
14:16Yeah, I'm so happy he wasn't hurt. That looks so bad.
14:19We had Christian McCaffrey going into the bye week with a thigh injury that he was able to come back from.
14:25So I assume he'll be all right. Yeah. Aaron Jones, knee injury, but good news for him.
14:30It's not a serious knee injury for Aaron Jones.
14:32And that's about it for the major ones. We had Jalen Waddell with an arm injury.
14:37Yeah, that one could be major. Yeah, I'm sorry.
14:40Shoulder. Running backs. Wide receiver, I think. Jalen Knoll with turf toe.
14:43Jalen Waddell with, you know, arm. It's a shame they finally get their offense going a little bit here.
14:49And they get the Chiefs this week. Offensive line.
14:51Big news for Taylor Moten, who's going to miss much of the season with the broken leg.
14:56The right tackle for the Panthers. The Packers have a Thursday night game against Carolina.
15:00So Carolina's not going to have their starting right tackle.
15:03The Packers are probably going to be on their third string center, which they were in this game.
15:08They're going to have their third string center most likely starting for them on Thursday against Carolina.
15:13Baltimore offensive line of Venga Yohane. I just want to say it because I want you all to know that I know
15:20how to pronounce Venga Yohane, even though it's spelled nothing like that.
15:23Yeah. It's spelled I own, but it is Yohane.
15:26And it's spelled Vega. So double bang there. Left.
15:28He left in the first half. And I mentioned Charles Cross left tackle for the Seahawks as they get the Bears this week.
15:35The Bears actually tend to get pressure. So no left tackle for maybe a few weeks.
15:40High ankle sprain. All right. Let's get to some snap counts.
15:43Oh, wait. Did we take a break? Nope. I don't think we did.
15:47We had a technical break a little while ago, but let's take an official break here.
15:51We'll go to commercial. And when we come back, we'll talk about snap counts and the four big topics after this.
15:57I'll just run through a few things here. Kyle Pitts, target per out run rate higher than 20 percent, four straight games.
16:04Didn't run as many routes last game or yesterday, but, you know, expect that to bounce back.
16:08And he has four touchdowns in his last three games.
16:11Jonah Coleman. I'm assuming Jacob's going to talk about that.
16:14He played by far the most snaps among the Broncos running backs.
16:18He played half the snaps. He ran as many routes as R.J.
16:21Harvey. It was maybe, you know, as much of a bad game for for Dobbins and Harvey as it was a good game for Coleman.
16:28And honestly, a bad game for fantasy managers if this is the case.
16:32Jamison Williams had a 29 percent target share after four straight weeks with a target share below 16 percent.
16:38And I know I'm going to talk a lot about Jamison Williams this week, but I don't know how I'm going to feel about him yet.
16:45That's a lot of research is going to have to be done for this matchup against Minnesota.
16:50The last time Goff faced Minnesota was during that stretch last year where the Vikings gave up one passing touchdown in seven games.
16:57And he was terrible. Goff scored like four or five fantasy points in that game.
17:01So you got this really great game from Jamo.
17:03Very encouraging coming out of their bye. He's got two straight games with, I think, two end zone targets.
17:09He also had – and this is what I need from Jamo.
17:12He had a season low 10 yard A dot.
17:15He's pretty much always better when they don't use him just as a downfield guy.
17:19You know, he's not – he doesn't have to be that guy.
17:23So I love the usage yesterday, but what will it mean next week?
17:27I'll do a whole bunch of research and none of it will matter because football is random.
17:31Josh Jacobs played 52 percent of the snaps. So we thought we'd get – I don't know if we thought – like
17:38there was a report that he would probably get more than that, but whatever.
17:42And then the Rams tight end usage is hilarious.
17:44Parkinson, Higby, and Davis Allen, they all played around 71 percent of the snaps.
17:48They all ran between 40 and 57 percent of the routes.
17:52Higby ran the most routes. Allen caught the most touchdowns.
17:54Parkinson had the most targets. Let's hope that they like Terrence Ferguson enough to, you know, make him like a real consistent
18:01number one tight end and not part of this jumbled mess.
18:04That's all I got. Jacob, what do you got?
18:07I'm a little – like as you can tell, I'm a little under the weather.
18:11So I'm kind of catching up. I'll get you a lot more of this on Tuesday.
18:16I thought you did a really good job there.
18:18The two that stood out to me were Casey Concepcion and Zay Flowers.
18:22I'm really intrigued by both of these guys. Concepcion playing with Munkin who is where Flowers, like his career, blossomed there.
18:28I think he plays a sort of similar role.
18:31We've just had really, really bad luck with catchable targets for this rookie, Cleveland Browns.
18:35And so honestly, we're going to talk about both of these guys today as part of our big questions.
18:40But I just wanted to point out 110 yards after the catch for Zay Flowers this week.
18:45He leads – that was a career high. He leads the league – well, he leads all receivers and tight ends in
18:52yak on the year, which is also crazy because he's played without a starting quarterback for more often than not.
18:57And he's missed the game. And he's missed partial other games.
19:00And he still leads the whole league in raw yards after the catch.
19:04Luther Burden also had 93 yak this week, which all came in the first half.
19:09Don't really know what happened there in the second half.
19:11And then Concepcion had 81 yards after the catch.
19:14The other two guys who had more than 60 were Omar Cooper Jr.
19:18and Trey Tucker. Two other guys we're going to talk about today.
19:21Yeah, exciting stuff. Omar Cooper Jr., five targets, caught them all.
19:24Huge game. Pokemon. And – oh, yeah. Let me just ask you this.
19:28As we look at the Bears at Seattle and the Lions at Minnesota – let me just make sure that game is in Minnesota.
19:35Yeah. Oh, no, it's in Detroit. Are you feeling confident in your Bears and your Lions in week eight?
19:41I know we haven't even started. It's Monday. We haven't even started our week eight prep.
19:45But just what do you think between Detroit hosting Minnesota and Chicago at Seattle Monday night?
19:50No, not really. I mean, I'm confident in the Detroit guys generally speaking.
19:54But any game where Goff gets a pass rush like this, like we've seen him get heated up at times and get pretty bad.
20:00Right. Their line is – the line has gotten healthier in Detroit.
20:04I think that – that one I feel a little bit better about.
20:08But the Bears, there's like no predictability at all is how it feels right now.
20:12We just haven't at any point found any like momentum or any sort of like trend.
20:17It's just been like all over the place with the Bears the way that this season has gone.
20:22Lately, Colson Loveland is the one who's been getting more and more first three targets.
20:26He had a 41% first three target rate this last week.
20:29That's great. That's amazing for a tight end. That's good for any player.
20:33So like I guess I would feel confident in him.
20:36I would feel confident in DeAndre Swift generally speaking.
20:38But we just saw what they did to the freaking Chiefs round game.
20:42Yeah, I don't feel confident in either of those two offenses in this game.
20:46I would probably find more confidence in the Bears offense.
20:49I think this is the exact type of game script and matchup where Goff typically struggles.
20:54Judging on – I mean everyone struggles against Brian Flores at this point, but Goff is specifically a type of quarterback that
21:00will really struggle against this style of defense. Okay.
21:03I think I have a – I don't know who I have more faith in.
21:07The Patriots have a solid defense and the Bears just scored 30 points against them.
21:11So – It's not the – nothing is the level of the Seahawks defense.
21:15It really isn't. Or the Vikings, right? Those two defenses for fantasy purposes.
21:19Those are probably the two that I want to avoid the most.
21:23Certainly the Vikings. But the Vikings – I mean Brian Flores – I think Brian Flores blitzed like 88% of the time yesterday.
21:29Look at the Vikings schedule though. You know, like they played Green Bay and Jordan Love had a decent game.
21:35And they gave up 22 points. Since then, Chicago with a backup – oh no, no, no, they did – that was in the rain though.
21:42But they – yeah, they humiliated Caleb Williams I guess.
21:45But that was a 9-3 win in bad weather.
21:48Tampa Bay, Miami, New Orleans, and the Colts. Ugh.
21:51That's going to be tough. All right. Let's get into our four big topics.
21:55A guy on Twitter named Free wants us to talk about the rookie wide receivers.
21:59Do any have season-long wide receiver two upside? And just real quick here.
22:03There are 25-ish wide receivers who are averaging 14 or more PPR fantasy points per game.
22:07So that's kind of what I'm going to look for in this conversation.
22:11Wide receiver two upside. 14 or more PPR fantasy points per game.
22:14Over the last five seasons, there have been seven wide receivers, not including this season.
22:192021 to 2025. Seven rookie wide receivers who averaged 14 or more PPR fantasy points per game.
22:24They were Jamar Chase and Jalen Waddell in 2001.
22:26Puka Nakua and Tank Dell in 2023. I said 2001.
22:29Sorry. I mean 2021. Puka Nakua and Tank Dell in 2023.
22:32And Malik Neighbors, Ladd McConkie, and Brian Thomas Jr.
22:35in 2024. So there you go. Those were the guys who did it.
22:3914 points per game or more. Some of them were on terrible offenses like Malik Neighbors, Brian Thomas Jr., and Jalen Waddell.
22:45They were all on teams that were 25th or worst in scoring.
22:48I'm looking at you, Carnell Tate. So, Dan, what do you think?
22:52Do any rookie wide receivers have top 24 upside rest of season?
22:55Start with the one I think has the most upside, Omar Cooper Jr.
22:59We talked about him last week a lot on Beyond the Box score.
23:03All three shows that I did, including this one.
23:05And I thought his film was really good from week six.
23:09I haven't got a chance to watch what he did yet in week seven.
23:13Obviously five for, I believe, 114 and a touchdown.
23:15The thing I really liked was on the touchdown, he was lined up out of the backfield.
23:20Just finding ways to get him the football the Jets are.
23:23I think the reality is at this point, they're looking at it like, defense are trying to take away Garrett Wilson from our passing game.
23:31What are our other options in the pass game?
23:33And it feels like the next best option is to just get Omar Cooper these one-on-one matchups and take advantage of that
23:39because he's a really good football player. I watch him in Indiana and I thought he was more of like a Debo type after the catch guy.
23:47I watch him with the Jets for at least from last week's tape.
23:51And I think he's more of a just like route you up type of guy.
23:55And he's somebody who can win his routes consistently.
23:58And that's, to me, a very good sign of things moving forward.
24:01I'm not going crazy here and being like wide receiver one in a Jets offense.
24:06And there's obviously still like some concern to me that at some point, they want to see what club Nick looks like.
24:12I know it's not like likely, but it's possible.
24:15And at that point, I'm just entirely out on the Jets offense.
24:18But until now, Geno's playing okay enough to make Cooper, in my mind, get Cooper into the wide receiver two mix.
24:24Do I find anyone else to be in that mix?
24:27I know Jacob will probably say Tate. And obviously Carnell Tate as well.
24:31Yeah, Carnell Tate as well. I think if you could go back and amend the statement, would you say that Tate has more upside than Omar Cooper Jr.?
24:39Yeah, more upside. Sure. I'm not so sure he'll outscore him the rest of season, but I do think he definitely has more upside.
24:46I've got data on the rookies. Can I throw that up on the screen?
24:50Yeah, let's see it. So it's sort of by fantasy points per outrun over on the right side there.
24:55And then this is just all the other relevant receiving stuff.
24:58You can see Omar Cooper Jr. is averaging 16.3 points per game, which is crazy.
25:03You can see the number of games that played over on the left side.
25:07Concepcion is the one who stands out to me.
25:09I think he's like just a better version of Omar Cooper Jr.
25:13I guess that the offensive environment isn't as good.
25:15Yeah. I see them pretty similar, honestly. There's target competition for both of them.
25:20Yeah. They work in and out of the slot.
25:22They're great after the catch. We saw some Concepcion plays after the catch this week that were phenomenal, which is what we'd seen on film in college too.
25:30He's different than Cooper Jr. I think he's more consistent in his yak and route winning ability.
25:35Cooper Jr. had a lot of flashes. He worked two years ago at Indiana.
25:39He worked outside a ton and down the field more, and you got to see more of the route running chops.
25:45And it was good, but it's not consistent in my opinion.
25:48At least it wasn't then. But he had some huge wins.
25:51What he's done so far has been a lot of big play stuff, but it's like all the skills that we know are there showing up.
25:59I do think it's inflating things, obviously. I mean, he's number one in the NFL in fantasy points per hour run right now.
26:06Wow. So like, obviously. Of all players, not just rookies.
26:08Yeah. If you can sell based off that, sure.
26:11But I do think the yak is real. If you look at yak data, it was only Luther Burden who was better than Omar Cooper Jr.
26:19over the last five draft classes in terms of yards after the catch, yards after contact.
26:23He's really, really good in that regard. I think he was using a favorable situation to do that.
26:28It was different than Concepcion. Concepcion's teams were kind of trash.
26:32But very good at that. And Cam went down the field, has a decent feel for zone coverage too.
26:37A few of these catches have been a good zone where he settled into the right spot, then taken off after the catch after that.
26:44I think he's legit. I just don't know if we can expect the opportunities to keep being there like this.
26:50If you want us after two huge games, that could be right.
26:53That definitely could be right. We're still talking about a Jets receiver who plays on a team with Garrett Wilson.
26:59Right. And Mason Taylor and Adonai Mitchell for what it's worth.
27:02Because that's relevant when we talk about Garrett Wilson soon.
27:05I think, I mean, clearly to me, if I could have any rookie wide receiver, it'd be Carnell Tate.
27:11That's the one I'm most excited about. The Titans are the worst offense in football.
27:15They throw for the fewest yards per game. That sucks, but his target share is immense.
27:20His target per outrun rate is really good. So for me, it's easily Carnell Tate.
27:24I have some issues with all of the others.
27:27I don't think this is going to be a great rookie class.
27:30I don't think it's going to be a consistent one.
27:33My issue, if I could combine Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston's profiles, I think we could have a great receiver.
27:39With Denzel Boston, you have a guy who has a 16-yard ADOT.
27:42It's just, and it's week after week of high ADOTs.
27:45And you know what? He got a deep end zone target in this game, and it was a little bit overthrown, and that happens.
27:52I don't know if it's quite an end zone target.
27:55It was close. He had another deep ball. He was wide open, and Watson missed him.
27:59That play would have come back on a holding ball anyway, so it doesn't officially count as a target.
28:05But like, you're going to get these big games from Denzel Boston.
28:08I can't imagine you're going to get much consistency.
28:11With Concepcion, it's a little gimmicky. You know, it's good that they're designing plays for him and stuff like that, but it
28:17is relying a lot on Yak, and he does not have a—he's getting a lot of targets lately.
28:23He does not have a single target in the green zone or a single target in the end zone so far this year.
28:29And I do think he looks like a guy where touchdowns could be a problem, like the profile.
28:34I could see that being a problem. Definitely. He had a target go through his hands this week that could have easily been a touchdown.
28:42It wasn't a green zone target technically, but it was near the end zone.
28:46Yeah, it was like at the 20 or something like that, but definitely he was on the run.
28:51It was a really well-designed play, I think, and he—yeah, he did drop that Concepcion.
28:55This was a great game for him, but I do think that you might be able to sell on these guys.
29:01I just don't think they're going to be consistent, and if I'm looking at 14 PPR fantasy points per game, like rest
29:07of season— Yeah, it's going to be tough to get that.
29:11It's just Tate for me is the only one I think I could do it.
29:15Yeah, averaging out. I think Tyson's got a chance.
29:18I mean, that's just based on hope, but I think he— Tyson's based on hope for sure, but—and talent.
29:23I would say there's sleepers in this category as well.
29:26Like to me, Antonio Williams is a massive sleeper.
29:29All he's done is look good, both on tape and by the metrics, and now Terry McLaurin's out for the year, and
29:35Jaden looks pretty good throwing the ball. Like no one really talks about that one, but to me, that's a big sleeper.
29:41Malachi Fields is a sleeper as well. All he's done is catch every pass thrown to him, and it looked from yesterday's
29:48tape, like he was a big first—I don't know the numbers on it, but like he was a big factor in the game plan, and J.J.
29:55looked for him a lot. Didn't you read my stat on him?
29:59Didn't you read my Malachi Fields stat? I did read your Malachi Fields stat, but you can tell.
30:04What was it? I don't remember. I read a lot of things yesterday, and I don't quite remember your Malachi Fields stat.
30:10He has like a 23% target share with J.J.
30:13McCarthy and Isaiah Likely. I mean, Isaiah Likely has like a 16%, something like that.
30:17And Likely's banged up now as well, playing through what looks like an injury that he's not complaining about, but it looks pretty obvious.
30:24So Malachi Fields to me is another big sleeper.
30:26I don't know if I can find consistency for him or for Antonio Williams, but they're certainly sleepers for me in this class.
30:33And then obviously you've got to at least consider, will Miami build on what Caleb Douglas was able to do this past week?
30:40Is there something they figured out in their bye week that's allowing them to pass the football a little bit more consistently?
30:46Because if that's the case, he could just be in that Carnell Tate range.
30:50Obviously not as talented, but not necessarily a worse quarterback play.
30:53No offense, Adam, dear boy. But like not guaranteed to be worse quarterback play and maybe now becoming that number one type guy for Miami.
31:00I mean, in his first game, he had seven targets.
31:03He had a 26% target share at 94 yards.
31:06Like we've seen him play three games and two of them have been really productive.
31:10Yeah. And he looked freaking awesome this preseason too.
31:13He looks awesome on film. Yeah. Just Tate has by far the best setup, right?
31:17Like he really has no target competition. And unfortunately he has the worst passing game, but...
31:22Tate's like top 15 and first three target rate among all players.
31:25Yeah. His usage is in a different ballpark than the rest of these guys.
31:29Unless Makai Lemon does something different than what we've seen tonight.
31:32Like nobody else is even close. Those guys we're excited about.
31:36Let's talk about the scrubs. Garrett Wilson and Nico Collins and Derek Henry and Chase Brown.
31:40I do have some encouraging stuff for Chase Brown, even more than what we talked about yesterday.
31:45Don't do this. Try. We do this every week.
31:48I'm so sick of this. Everyone's so sick of this.
31:51But first we do have to take a break.
31:53We'll be right back after this to talk about the four concerning players that again emerged in week seven.
31:59And that'll be after this. We'll be right back.
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32:45So, if you were going to give me a rank of most worried to least worried, okay?
32:50One to four. Garrett Wilson, Nico Collins, Derek Henry, Chase Brown.
32:53How would you rank them? Most worried to least worried?
32:56Chase Brown, Wilson, I guess. And then, I guess Nico?
32:59Henry, least worried for you? Henry, by far and away the least worried.
33:03By far and away. I know you've been a little bit more worried about him, Adam.
33:07I just think it's purely a Lamar issue. Once Lamar's back in the lineup, everything changes.
33:12I have very, personally, I'm not a big Tyler Huntley fan.
33:15I would say it's least worried, Henry. Second to least worried, Nico for me.
33:19Third to least worried, Chase Brown. Most worried would be Wilson.
33:22Okay. So, you did it the exact opposite of the way I asked you to do it.
33:27Thank you. You're very welcome. Yeah, I'm not that worried about Derek Henry.
33:31I mean, look, the guy's 32. First time in his career, he's had six straight games where he's failed to average more than 4.3 yards per carry.
33:39And last year without Lamar Jackson, you didn't know that, Dan?
33:42Not that stat, no. Is that also in the article?
33:45You didn't read it. You didn't read my, it really hurts.
33:48I did read it, but my brain is not as good as it used to be when there's a thousand things going on on a Sunday.
33:55He played four games without Lamar Jackson last year, and he averaged 2.2, 5.1, 3.4, and 6.0 yards per carry.
34:01You know, he had a game with 122 rushing yards.
34:04He had a game with 36 carries for 216 yards and four touchdowns, scored 45.6 fantasy points at Green Bay.
34:10So it's not like he was this bad last year without Lamar.
34:13You know, he's got one of the lowest, one of the worst rates of carries for zero or negative yards.
34:19And I looked at, you know, just the first seven weeks of last year, and it was actually kind of similar.
34:25So I actually think if you look at Derek Henry, you could see some things that actually look concerning.
34:31But at the same time, we had the same exact argument or conversation rather last year because it was the first nine games of last year.
34:38He wasn't even really that good. He scored more than 14 fantasy points last year in PPR in two of his first nine games.
34:45And then in his last eight games, you know, he was on pace for over like almost 2,100 total yards and 21 touchdowns.
34:52So I think Derek Henry can get things going immediately.
34:55But two straight games of fewer than six PPR fantasy points is awful and just weak losers for you there.
35:00So we agree, Henry, everybody agrees, Henry, the least concerning.
35:03Garrett, most concerning for Dan was Garrett Wilson. Who was it for you, Jacob?
35:07I guess Chase Brown, but I don't know. Like as you're talking, there's like, yeah, both these guys started so slow last year.
35:14They're both in the exact same situation this year.
35:16I don't know if I'm really that worried about it.
35:19But I guess I'll say Wilson, but I feel the same way about Wilson that I did coming into the year.
35:25Like I think that he can have really good games.
35:28He can target dominate at times. He got extremely lucky in the fact that the Jets lost like every single offensive skill
35:35position player other than him to start the year.
35:37And so they've fed him like a 36% target share in those games.
35:41I don't think he's going to have a 10% target share like he did this week.
35:46But I do think it might be lower than 30%.
35:48And if you have a lower than 30% target share on an offense like the Jets, and you're not creating a ton
35:55on your own three yards after the catch on the year, he's never been.
35:59He can't create after the catch. He's not ever produced a ton there.
36:03He's not getting a ton of downfield looks or anything like he's more he's for fantasy.
36:07He has been more of an accumulator where he needs to get a ton of targets.
36:12Yeah. Um, so yeah, it doesn't feel great with him really.
36:15I guess I'll say he's one of the most worried about.
36:18One other thing to worry about with Wilson. We brought this up on yesterday's show.
36:22The schedule is not that bad for the foreseeable future.
36:25However, the last five games of the season for Garrett Wilson of the fantasy season are a bye.
36:30Patrick Sertan. Then the Cardinals. Christian Gonzalez, who just shut him down.
36:34And then the Vikings. So it is a really specifically for Garrett Wilson, a terrible end of the season.
36:39I don't know that Christian Gonzalez and Patrick Sertan are going to be healthy.
36:43Maybe the Vikings fall apart. But if they were if you're playing all those opponents, you know, at full health, it would
36:50be really bad for for Garrett Wilson. And I think for Nico, it's just like, sorry, dude, you came to the you got to understand banks closed.
36:58The banks closed on Sunday. You just got to understand.
37:00And I've been waiting to say that for so many years, Adam, since the Giants drafted Deontay Banks.
37:06But the reality is this dude's actually turned into one of the better cover corners in the NFL.
37:11It's kind of absurd. This turnaround. It's one of the most unexpected things I've probably had during my lifetime covering the Giants,
37:17given where he was at last year versus now.
37:20But the tape's pretty clear. He's in the hip pocket almost every snap.
37:24And honestly, Travis Hunter is a really good corner, too.
37:26So it's two weeks in a row where Nico's been shadowed.
37:30And I watched the tape. I know you watched the tape.
37:33I watched it this morning. Seemed like the Giants were also giving Deontay Banks a lot of help.
37:38They had a lot of attention on Nico Collins, in my opinion.
37:41And I think there are some. So so you could kind of excuse that.
37:45However, that's not the whole story. You know, last two years, he's run 83 percent of the routes and 80 percent of the routes.
37:52That's not a superstar receiver. That's going to be tough to be like, great, great with that could be good.
37:58But great. It's true. Marvin Harrison Jr. So far is getting so heavily targeted.
38:02He's like a 50 percent target per out run rate is something like that.
38:06And Nico Collins has run 16 routes with Marvin Harrison Jr.
38:09on the field. And he has two targets on those 16 routes.
38:13And like this isn't going to keep up. But Marvin Harrison Jr.
38:16is only going to get more involved. He's barely playing.
38:19And when he's been on the field, Nico's getting basically nothing.
38:22He's got a 23.2 percent target per out run rate for the season.
38:26That's his lowest in four years. So when you ask me if I'm more worried about Nico Collins or Garrett Wilson, my
38:32answer is I'm more worried about Nico Collins based on preseason expectations.
38:36Sure. Had him about a round and a half earlier than Garrett Wilson.
38:40But if I were drafting today, they'd be closer together.
38:42You know, I think Garrett, I think Garrett Wilson would be mostly fine.
38:46But I'm worried about both of them. Like I used to look at my I only have Garrett.
38:51I don't have Garrett Wilson on any teams. I only have Nico in one team.
38:56I used to look at that team like I am set.
38:59I love it. I start Nico Collins. I'm getting points every week.
39:02I no longer feel that way. I don't fear nearly as good about that team as I did.
39:08Sure. I think we have legitimate issues here. However, I do think he's going to be pretty solid rest of season.
39:14You know, I think he'll be a number two receiver.
39:16Garrett Wilson, I think, will be like on the border of a top 24 receiver personally.
39:21And then Chase, you guys agree with that or kind of where you're at?
39:25I have a hard time being worried about Nico.
39:28I know it's been really rough the last couple of games.
39:31Okay. I just think Jacob's right. I mean, prior to this game, CJ Stroud was the only quarterback.
39:36Jacob brought the stat to my attention that had 200 plus air yards in every game.
39:41It's still a high opportunity offense with a quarterback playing really well.
39:44The Giants were able to shut him down, but no one else really has been able to.
39:49The Texans kind of got chiefed in this game.
39:52They had 54 plays. It was kind of like that, whereas kind of like the Giants against the Cowboys in week one or whatever.
39:59Chase Brown. So he played 75.5% of the snaps.
40:01That's a big number. He played 60% of the snaps the last time we talked about Chase Brown in week five.
40:07I think a lot of people saw the one-yard goal line touchdown from Samaj A.
40:12Pirine, and that really stinks. Like, I think it's almost like— I thought they would try to get him a touchdown, too.
40:18He hasn't scored one all year. Yeah, and he hasn't scored yet this year?
40:22Wow. Pretty sure, right? Is that wrong? No, he scored in week one.
40:26Oh, just week one. Okay, so he hasn't scored since week one.
40:29And we need that. Like, your hope with Chase Brown is that you knew he wasn't as talented as James Cook and you thought Omari and Hampton, whatever.
40:37Like, a lot of the running backs— You bought him for the touchdowns, 100%.
40:41You bought him for the offense and the touchdowns, exactly.
40:44And if Pirine's going to get that, it's a real bummer.
40:47But there was a sequence that I didn't really talk about yesterday that I noticed today.
40:52It was after that. It was with eight minutes and 14 seconds to play in the fourth quarter.
40:57They're up by eight. First and goal at the six-yard line.
41:00Chase Brown is in the game. He carries to the two-yard line.
41:04He's in the game on second and goal. Not lined up in the backfield, but he's in the game.
41:09They throw incomplete. He's in the game on third and goal from the two-yard line.
41:14They throw a touchdown at two. Jamar Chase. So I thought that was encouraging.
41:18There was talk that maybe—the report from The Athletic that maybe Samadze Pirine was more suited for the runs out of the
41:24shotgun and Chase Brown more suited for the runs under center.
41:27Well, I mean, Pirine barely had any carries in this game, but Chase Brown actually had six runs out of the shotgun,
41:33so it's not like they took him off the field when they were in shotgun or anything like that.
41:39The usage was great. If he just scores that damn touchdown, we're probably pretty relieved.
41:43I can't predict the future. I don't know what the goal line work's going to be, but if he gets that, then he'll be okay.
41:50Here's a play I want to show you, though.
41:53This really frustrated me. Like, he's got a huge hole here between his right guard and his right tackle.
41:58This is a well-blocked play. His next step has to be that hole.
42:02He takes another step, maybe step and a half straight forward.
42:05He ends up gaining like five yards on the play.
42:08And this one really frustrated me, too. Where are we?
42:11Nope. Come back. Nope. Hmm. Where's the other Chase Brown one?
42:14All right. Don't have it. It was a well-blocked play except for his center.
42:18They had a play really set up, and his center got absolutely destroyed on the play, and he got tackled for a loss.
42:25Also, I didn't get a chance to talk about these Geno Smith screenshots.
42:29Let's take a look at this. I keep clicking things, and it keeps bringing up Chase Brown.
42:34That is weird. It never happens. I see you clicking on the back end.
42:38You're trying to get this Garrett Wilson thing. All right.
42:41Let's remove all the Chase Browns from here if we can.
42:44And I will... Can I remove him from my fantasy teams in life, but get something better back for it?
42:49If we can get those out of here. Him and Hampton are just nightmare picks.
42:54All right. I'm just going to click on a random thing.
42:57Let's see if it brings up Chase Brown. Ready?
43:00Oh. I tried to circle Garrett Wilson on this play.
43:02I don't know if you can tell. That's how open Garrett Wilson is.
43:06The throw does not go to Garrett Wilson. Watch how open Mason Taylor is.
43:10You see this play? Holy cow. Geno Smith has Mason Taylor.
43:13There is no one within 15 to 20 yards.
43:16That's a touchdown. That should have been a three-touchdown game for Mason Taylor.
43:20Doesn't see him. The next play is an interception.
43:22And then you have two options if you're Geno Smith.
43:25You have option one, Garrett Wilson, for about six yards.
43:28Or option two, Adonai Mitchell, for a 65-yard touchdown almost.
43:31And he chose option one. A lot of misses in terms of seeing the field for Geno Smith.
43:36In week seven. All right. Anything else to add on these four?
43:40These four losers? Just kidding. Just kidding. Okay. Moving on.
43:43Next topic from They Know That We're Like That.
43:45Who is this year's JSN? I mean, it's Zay Flowers, isn't it?
43:49It's JSN. It's JSN. It is definitely Zay Flowers.
43:51Yeah. I don't know if there's any other player in competition.
43:54I watch Zay Flowers, and I feel like he's always been good post-catch.
43:58He's even better now post-catch than he was earlier in his career.
44:02And I just can't wait to see him with Lamar Jackson once Lamar gets back.
44:06So to me, it's Zay Flowers. I don't think he'll reach the level of JSN last year.
44:11JSN is JSN. I looked up first seven weeks of data during the time that we have per route data available to us, which dates back to 2013.
44:19And the closest season we have to last year's JSN is this year's JSN.
44:23Is it better or worse than last year? So, I mean, he's averaging 28 fantasy points per game, which is better for sure.
44:30That's the best of all time. The per route data is not quite as good.
44:34He's averaging 3.8 yards per outrun compared to 4.3 yards per outrun.
44:37But they're running more routes. The Seahawks have been a little bit different than last year.
44:42They're a little bit more pass-heavy because of their running back room.
44:45And then they've been in some weird game scripts.
44:48And then he also has eight touchdowns compared to four touchdowns at this point last year.
44:53Last year, he scored 10 touchdowns. He already has eight on the year.
44:56So, yeah, 28 PPR points per game is the most in NFL history through the first seven weeks of a season.
45:02And then Zay Flowers, yeah, he was third. So other than JSN, he's the most similar to JSN dating back to 2013 through an initial seven weeks.
45:10And that's with, again, an overwhelming amount of his drop-back route running opportunities coming with freaking Tyler Huntley.
45:15He's averaged 3.7 yards per outrun on a 33% target per outrun rate with a 15% first down per outrun rate, which
45:22is all pretty similar to JSN last year and this year.
45:25But if you look at the splits with Lamar Jackson on the field, he's averaging 7.8 yards per outrun.
45:30Which is like three great players. Yes. Three elite players, basically.
45:337.8 yards per outrun. He's run 45 routes. 45 routes to Lamar, which is like a game, game and a half, maybe five quarters.
45:40He has 65 PPR points. Yeah. It's insane. And you could throw another name in the mix, Malik Neighbors.
45:46You can throw him in the Malik mixes this year.
45:49He's been now quarterback-proof and matchup-proof at this point, Malik Neighbors.
45:52The big play he made in this week, the long catch, 47 yards, was, again, a slot vert.
45:57So they're using him and they're moving him into the slot to get matchups that are right.
46:02He looks awesome out there. He is awesome. He hasn't even really reached his top form yet because the post-catch burst isn't there yet.
46:09Could that return end of season? Or is it just a next year thing?
46:13I don't know. But he doesn't need it right now.
46:16This is four straight 100-yard games for him. Three, what is it, two different quarterbacks to do it with.
46:21So backups. So I just feel like Neighbors belongs in this mix as well.
46:25Neighbors is amazing. Zay is doing it stylistically in the most similar way to Jason.
46:30Yeah, that's fair. Where it's like coaching change, all the condensed formation stuff, all the big personnel packages and everything that's unlocking him this way.
46:37Also, it just reminds me of Jason a little bit last year, where one of the very first things I saw in
46:43Red Zone this week, after having a bunch of start-sick questions with y'all, and being surprised you didn't have Zay in the
46:50top 10, sorry, no shade or anything, but I was like, how are we just not going to play Zay Flowers this week?
46:56I don't care that it's Huntley. I know the past two games haven't been that good.
47:01Yeah, but because of the last two games. You've got to play the guy.
47:05Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I get that the last two games weren't that good, but that's the floor.
47:10That's fine. I'll take that. Nico Collins just gave me two points.
47:14Who cares? This guy's uncoverable. And then it's like immediately, he just like turns a play into a freaking touchdown.
47:20And then like throughout the day, every single time they flip it to the Ravens, he just looks like a superhero out there.
47:26I don't know what it is, but he's on something different this year.
47:30That's what I'm saying. How is he even more talented than he was before?
47:34It's crazy what he's doing. It's crazy. It kind of reminds me of Jason, where it's like he just looks so locked
47:40in and so damn talented that like he's just transcending everyone out there.
47:44It looks like the best player by far. That's a great word for it.
47:48Honestly, you know, it wouldn't be the heights of JSN last year, but if Matthew Golden could just catch the ball, he'd
47:54be preferred with that kind of year, right? That's actually, I love that.
47:58That's a good call. He looks so good. He's open all the time.
48:02He's got four games with 12 or more targets.
48:05It's crazy. Unreal. You know, 69 targets in seven games.
48:07This is nuts. If he would, how many fantasy points has Matthew Golden left on the field the last two games?
48:13It's probably over 20, you know, because it's two touchdowns.
48:16It's a bunch of yards. You know, it's crazy.
48:19All right. By the way, Dan, when do we get a future quarterback controversy for the Giants?
48:24We're not talking about that yet. Let's just have fun.
48:27Enjoy the time being. Please. All right. Our last topic is just the name.
48:31It's just Trey Tucker, a guy that I just feel like throughout all of the shows, we just haven't really, you know, talked about a lot.
48:38Well, he doesn't do that well. Typically, he never, he'll pretty much never puts back to back good games together ever.
48:44And he's the biggest tease in fantasy, but he's got 200 yards, 10 catches, 200 yards and three touchdowns in his last two games.
48:51He has 48 fantasy points in his last two games against the bills and the Raiders and the Raiders, the Raiders, the Raiders, sorry.
48:58He's on the Raiders. The Rams are really good against wide receivers.
49:02So I think, you know, the fact that there's been some garbage time in there, you know, people don't really take it seriously.
49:08He was started in 65% of leagues and he tends to break people's hearts.
49:12But Dan, what do you think about Trey Tucker?
49:15I'm not very interested personally. I think we're about to undergo a quarterback change here in Las Vegas.
49:20I heard after the game, Kubiak talk, not giving, not really commit to Kirk cousins.
49:24Personally, I think that Mendoza will be considerably worse for the entire Raiders pass game.
49:29Then cousins. We'll see if I'm wrong. He can hit the ground running.
49:32It's possible, but I think cousins to play good football and I don't think he's necessarily the reason why they're three and four.
49:39Is it just that you think he is going to read things out a lot worse than cousins?
49:44Cause the charted accuracy is pretty terrible. Yeah. I think it's going to be just slow.
49:49It's just, I mean, look, it's possible to get away with it.
49:52So I shouldn't discredit it to start because essentially like this is what JJ McCarthy has done the last five quarters.
49:58It's been a lot of first read stuff and it could just be, could be act designs.
50:03Good first reads for Mendoza. He gets the ball out fast.
50:06I just, I'm just personally skeptical about what we'll get from Mendoza as far as like passing game health goes.
50:12So you're saying you think that, they'll play slower.
50:15I think they'll play slower for sure. Yeah. Um, I also, yeah.
50:18And pass less. And I just think it's going to be a lot more first read stuff, which I think we'll go to Bowers.
50:25This is just Tucker specific. Mostly for me. Um, I've got some data on Tucker real quick though.
50:30And say flowers, I wanted to add that he has six red zone targets already this year.
50:35Last year at 10, the year before that he had seven.
50:38Yeah. That's, that's it right there. He has a, he has a 26% target per rat run rate in the red zone.
50:45His rate across the first three seasons was 16%.
50:47So that's a huge increase. Um, so that's just another like cherry on top.
50:51In addition to him creating like ridiculous yards after the catch and everything.
50:55Um, doesn't have an end zone target yet though.
50:58Yeah. I don't, I'm curious how many they even have.
51:01Um, trade Tucker. So trade Tucker's expected fantasy points, which is a model from the fantasy points data suite, um, that looks
51:07like catchable targets and like where the targets are coming on the field and all that end zone targets, red zone targets, first three targets, all that stuff.
51:15Um, his XFP per game puts him in the same range as Garrett Wilson and Luther Burden and DK Metcalf.
51:21Um, a lot of those mid range, like why do I guess like high end wide receiver threes, low end wide receiver two types for fantasy.
51:28Um, so like in terms of XFP, it actually backs up what we've gotten so far that the role has been pretty good.
51:35He's 13th and deep targets. He's 20th and catchable deep targets.
51:38Again, the, the charting accuracy on cousins is not very good this year.
51:42Um, he's 20th in red zone targets, trade Tucker.
51:44He's 18th in end zone targets. And then his first read target rate is 23%, which is the same range as Jamison
51:51Williams, Denzel Boston, George Pickens, so I think you can think of him as similar to those guys so far, at least
51:57in the role that he's playing where he's not the one, a, or whatever.
52:01He may not, may not even be the one B.
52:04Maybe that's Michael Mayer. I don't know. Maybe that's gente, but he's a complimentary outside piece and he's clearly the preferred option among like the, the other receivers.
52:12Um, so he does get down to the looks.
52:15He does get some end zone looks and all that.
52:18And then occasionally it does have some first read targets to, in the same range as those other field stretching types, um, that have been good for fantasy.
52:26I think the office has been designed really, really well.
52:29And so it could keep working for Tucker. Um, there's the other thing that I liked is there's no real drop off.
52:35If you look at the usage when Bowers has been back, it's not like these rates are boosted by the first two games of Bowers was out.
52:43His target numbers are basically identical since Bowers has returned.
52:46And I think if I remember right, you and I did like a Trey Tucker film review when he had one of
52:52those crazy games a couple of years ago, Dan, and you really liked the player, right?
52:56Yes. Yeah. So if you knew that he would get 20 plus percent of the first three targets, would that change your opinion on?
53:03Yeah, it definitely will. I shouldn't, I mean, I'm speculating on Mendoza.
53:07We haven't seen anything. It's certainly possible. You could still be a big part of the game plan and first read.
53:13I just think we're generally headed for a less of a progression based offense.
53:17If Mendoza gets in the game, I just think it's crazy to think that the Raiders are fifth in points per game,
53:23fifth in gross passing yards per game, fourth in touchdown passes, seventh in pass attempts, which doesn't shock me, fifth in touchdown rate.
53:30They cannot run the football. Gentry is the one who's kind of screwing things up for everyone.
53:35Like, you know, Bowers is going to get his.
53:37Gentry is on pace for 83 catches. Right. It shouldn't be crazy, right?
53:41I mean, it's Clint Kubiak. Like this guy embarrassed the whole league on his way to a Super Bowl.
53:47He did whatever he wanted, but he didn't throw to the running backs like this.
53:51You know, I'm just saying, but now he has for Tucker's sake.
53:54It would be great if Ash and Gentry weren't so involved in the passing game, but I'm just saying I, I buy the Raiders stuff.
54:02I think that is actually good. They're them and the 49ers.
54:05They're two offices that have consistently produced fantasy points every single week.
54:08I don't remember this stat. Exactly. I did it last week on a, like, buy low episode where I talk about Gentry.
54:15I think it was like 80 plus PPR points in every single game.
54:18It's just them and the Niners. So someone's, we got a comment in the chat.
54:23I don't know why you were talking about Mendoza.
54:25Kirk Cousins lit it up this week. So, because it could be expresser.
54:29They've lost four in a row. So they keep falling behind and then Cousins tries to rescue them in the fourth quarter.
54:35And he's, you know, he put up numbers, but it was a real struggle through three quarters.
54:40I think they had like three or six points or something like that.
54:44And, um, yeah, it's, that's just not, it's just not working.
54:47So, and then they did ask Kubiak about it and he said that he, he did not commit.
54:52He did not commit to Kirk Cousins. So I would caution you to, you know, look beyond the box score as people, Ooh, let's coin that.
55:00And, you know, Cousins didn't really have that, that good of a game, unfortunately, but there's no doubt he's, you know, he's been, he's exceeded expectations.
55:07It's just, um, I, I actually like from what I saw in preseason and when he came in, like I kind of
55:14came in the regular season, I kind of like Mendoza.
55:17I don't know what to expect, but we'll say, yeah, he's got a better arm than I realized coming out of college.
55:23I don't know why it's like, looks stronger here.
55:25Um, and, um, I've got a better arm than Cousins, but that's not everything, obviously.
55:30Um, yeah, I don't know. I, he's a good compare, good comparison to Jameson Williams.
55:34I would take Jameson Williams every time, but right now he's averaging more fantasy points than Jameson Williams.
55:39So it's crazy. What do I know? Um, all right, everybody.
55:43Thanks so much for watching and listening. I hope you enjoyed the show and, uh, we'll talk to you tomorrow.
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