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Fantasy Football Q&A: Kenneth Walker, Marvin Harrison Jr., League Winners & Draft Strategy (Ep. 2107)

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1 hr 8 min
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Jul 31, 2026
Published
Fri, July 31, 2026
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Topics
Justin JeffersonKenneth Walker IIIColston LovelandMalik NabersRicky PearsallJadarian PriceJaylen WarrenKyler MurrayTrey McBrideTyler WarrenBijan RobinsonBreece HallBrenton StrangeBrock Bowers
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Bijan Robinson

NegativeRole24:00

Bijan Robinson is mentioned in the context of a best ball draft evaluation where the questioner selected B. John London McBride through three picks. The source expresses concern about stacking two Falcons players but does not provide a specific fantasy outlook for Robinson himself, only noting general concern about the Falcons' quarterback situation.

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Breece Hall

PositiveProjection47:31

Breece Hall is ranked ahead of Kenneth Walker in the source's RB rankings, reflecting preference for Hall's profile over Walker's injury durability concerns.

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Brenton Strange

NegativeRole61:42

The source notes that the Jaguars extended Brenton Strange, indicating a commitment to him as part of a tight-end-heavy offensive approach that limits wide receiver volume.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue21:21

The source identifies Brock Bowers as a premium tight end target in the second round around picks 13–14, stating 'if Brock Bowers falls to that spot, I'm taking him every time.' This represents a strong endorsement for early tight end investment in best ball and redraft formats.

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Calvin Austin III

NegativeRole49:08

The source explicitly rules out Calvin Austin as a viable second pass catcher option for the Giants, indicating limited role expectations.

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Cam Ward

PositiveValue27:45

Cam Ward at a ninth-round keeper cost in super flex is identified as strong value. The source states 'I think it's probably warden and super flex just to do the QB math there' and later 'I'm going to keep cam ward just because the deal in the ninth and quarterbacks are just hard to come by in a 12 team super flex.' This reflects confidence in Ward's keeper value relative to other quarterback options.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveValue30:30

CeeDee Lamb is identified alongside Justin Jefferson as an elite wide receiver option that should be prioritized over a second running back in a 10-man league if available at the 10–11 turn. The source suggests pairing one of these elite receivers with a top running back rather than pursuing RB-RB strategy.

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Chris Olave

NegativeInjury59:09

The source expresses concern about Olave's injury and health history, noting 'too many injury and health concerns' and that 'you got the ceiling last year.' With Tyson Pitts now in the Saints offense, the source prefers other options and would rather take discounted players like Jawan Johnson if needing a pass catcher in New Orleans. Olave is ranked ECR 12 in tier three.

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Christian McCaffrey

PositiveValue29:54

Christian McCaffrey is ranked as the highest-ranked running back among a set of options (CMC, Cook, Chase Brown, Hampton, Gente H), with the source stating 'I do have CMC ranked the highest.' In a 10-man league at the 10–11 turn, CMC is recommended as a top-two pick alongside James Cook.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveValue43:03

The source ranks Colston Loveland as the clear third-tier tight end option in tight end premium leagues, behind only Bowers and McBride. Loveland is placed in his own tier above Tyler Warren, with the source stating 'it's obviously Colston Loveland' when asked about preferred tight ends outside the top two. This positioning reflects confidence in Loveland's draft value and role in the Bears offense.

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PositiveRole48:35

The source identifies Loveland as a secondary elite tight end option available in the third or fourth round, part of the tier below the top-tier tight ends but still worthy of early investment.

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PositiveValue60:00

In a 12-man full PPR scenario where the drafter already has two wide receivers and one running back, the source prefers Loveland over T Higgins in the middle of the fourth round, citing the value of securing an elite tight end at a premium position. The source states 'full send' on Loveland in this context.

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D.J. Moore

PositiveBreakout61:42

The source identifies DJ Moore as a non-injury bounce-back candidate, citing his elevation to number-one receiver status in Buffalo and a strong connection with Josh Allen during camp. The source states 'being the number one there is just going to be so much better for him.'

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Darius Slayton

NegativeRole49:08

The source rules out Darius Slayton as a likely second pass catcher for the Giants, indicating limited role expectations.

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Darnell Mooney

NegativeRole49:08

The source rules out Darnell Mooney as a likely second pass catcher for the Giants, indicating limited role expectations.

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Demarcus Robinson

NegativeRole60:09

The source notes that DeMarcus Robinson, a veteran, could beat out or split the wide receiver role with Jalin Hyatt in 49ers camp, making Hyatt an unattractive draft target despite Ricky Pearsall's injury.

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DeVonta Smith

NegativeValue59:09

The source views DeVonta Smith's ADP as overpriced, stating he's 'getting to the point where he's getting a little too rich for me.' Smith is ranked ECR 13 in tier three, below Pickens (ECR 10, tier two).

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Eli Stowers

NegativeValue50:22

The source explicitly dislikes rostering Eli Stowers in the last round, indicating he is not a preferred late-round tight end flier option.

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Emmett Johnson

NegativeRole3:52

The Chiefs added Emmitt Johnson, a running back with close to 300 touches at the college level last year, to complement Kenneth Walker. The source frames Johnson's acquisition as a strategic move to handle goal-line and short-yardage situations that Walker struggled with in Seattle, where Charbonnet absorbed those hard-hit carries. Johnson provides the Chiefs with a durable, high-volume back to share the workload.

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George Kittle

NegativeValue49:08

The source suggests Kittle as a late-round flier strategy to see if he returns to form at season's end; positioned as a speculative upside play for those who miss elite tight ends early.

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George Pickens

PositiveValue59:00

The source ranks Pickens at wide receiver 8-9 in their rankings, with an ECR of 10, placing him in tier two on ECR—a tier break above both Olave (ECR 12, tier three) and Devonta Smith (ECR 13, tier three). Despite acknowledging a steep ADP price, the source prefers Pickens over both alternatives when forced to choose among the three.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveValue49:08

The source recommends Isaiah Likely as a value tight end strategy when elite options are missed; specifically notes that with Malik Neighbors potentially not 100% early in the season, Likely becomes the clear second pass catcher in New York (ahead of Cam Scadaboo), making him a solid late-round pivot with upside.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeRole31:00

Jamar Chase is mentioned in the context of Cincinnati's secondary improvements during training camp, with the source noting 'Jamar chase getting some scraps with some of the newer secondary members out there.' This reflects competitive training camp activity but does not provide a specific fantasy outlook.

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Jadarian Price

PositiveValue11:51

The source identifies Jadarian Price as a league-winner candidate at running back, highlighting his value in 10-man PPR leagues.

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PositiveValue42:41

The source likes Jadarian Price even when taken late in drafts, indicating confidence in his value proposition as a running back.

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Jalin Hyatt

PositiveRole60:09

The source indicates Jalin Hyatt is not a draft target in redraft following Ricky Pearsall's injury, despite the opportunity created by Pearsall's absence. The source notes that DeMarcus Robinson, a veteran, could beat out or split the role with Hyatt in camp.

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James Cook

PositiveValue27:03

In a keeper league context, James Cook at a fourth-round cost is identified as consensus-level value. The source states 'James cook for a fourth. Ooh, baby' and later confirms 'I think you got to cook, keep cooking the fourth, right? Can we say that one's consensus?' This reflects strong confidence in Cook's keeper value.

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Jauan Jennings

NegativeRole60:52

The source mentions Jawan Jennings as part of the Vikings' offensive additions, noting the team brought him in alongside TJ Hawkinson, meaning they won't be force-feeding Jordan Addison and will have a more balanced offensive approach.

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Javonte Williams

PositiveProjection42:21

The source identifies Javante Williams as part of the strong top-end running back tier this season, expressing confidence in his outlook as a player to target in the 13–20 range.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveProjection42:41

The source references 'Your boy Cam' in the context of strong running backs in the 13–20 range, indicating confidence in Jaylen Warren's production outlook.

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PositiveValue42:41

The source expresses confidence in Jaylen Warren's value, suggesting he is a solid option even when taken late in drafts.

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Jeremiyah Love

PositiveProjection47:40

Jeremiah Love is currently ranked ahead of Kenneth Walker in the source's RB rankings. The source notes he may move Love down based on recent information but not significantly, suggesting Love remains a preferred option over Walker.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection31:20

Joe Burrow's health status for Week 1 is highlighted as a key factor in the Tee Higgins vs. A'Mecca Buka matchup analysis. The source states 'Joe Burrow healthy in week one is going to be huge,' indicating that Burrow's availability is a prerequisite for Higgins' Week 1 upside.

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Jordan Addison

PositiveBreakout60:52

The source identifies Jordan Addison as a non-injury bounce-back candidate, noting he has been 'continually out producing what he should from a touchdown standpoint' and is 'a really talented wide receiver' who has been 'overshadowed his entire career by Jay Jettas.' The source believes the Vikings will do a better job getting him involved, and with TJ Hawkinson and Jawan Jennings in the offense, they won't be force-feeding him, creating opportunity for Addison.

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Josh Downs

NegativeRole43:47

Josh Downs is mentioned in the context of tight end evaluation, specifically regarding Tyler Warren's role. The source notes that both Downs and Warren play over the middle of the field, which creates some overlap concern that makes the source 'a little less enthused about Warren' compared to Loveland, though the gap is not substantial.

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Josh Jacobs

PositiveProjection42:21

The source notes that Josh Jacobs is not facing suspension this season and includes him in the strong running back tier (13–20 range), indicating confidence in his availability and production outlook.

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JuJu Smith-Schuster

NegativeRole50:00

The source mentions JuJu as part of the Giants' wide receiver room but does not identify him as a primary pass-catching option, suggesting limited role clarity.

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Justin Jefferson

NegativeProjection5:47

Source is not adjusting rankings based on Kyler Murray's arrival in Minnesota, viewing the quarterback situation as a legitimate competition rather than a settled matter. While acknowledging Kyler is the starter for this season, source notes the Vikings GM did not want to lose their job and may not be done with JJ McCarthy long-term. Context: Minnesota's QB play was historically poor last season with rookie JJ McCarthy, Max Brosmer, and Carson Wentz.

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PositiveProjection9:01

The source believes in Justin Jefferson's talent and system fit more than most people do, citing his WR1 fantasy performance as a rookie under Kirk Cousins and his second-year opportunity under Kevin O'Connell, who has a proven track record of revitalizing quarterback play (Sam Darnold example). The belief is that people are buying into KOC fixing the quarterback situation and the overall system more than they are into Kyler Murray's ability to fix things, which supports Jefferson's resurgence.

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PositiveValue30:30

Justin Jefferson is highlighted as an elite wide receiver option that should be prioritized over a second running back in a 10-man league if he falls to the 10–11 turn. The source states 'if Justin Jefferson or CD lamb fall to you there, you really need to have like elite positions, uh, players. And so I think I'm less inclined to go RBRB and a 10 man league. And I would consider, Hey, give me a CMC or a cook. And then can I have a Justin Jefferson or a CD?'

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PositiveBreakout60:52

The source identifies Justin Jefferson as a non-injury bounce-back candidate, noting that 'all roads to me in Minnesota, like point towards Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, those would be my, my, my two big bounce backs, non-injury related.' The Vikings lack a true running back, which should benefit Jefferson's volume.

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Juwan Johnson

PositiveSleeper59:09

The source suggests Jawan Johnson as a discounted alternative pass catcher in New Orleans if needed, preferring him over Chris Olave given Olave's injury concerns and the addition of Tyson Pitts.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveRole45:21

Kenneth Walker landed with the Chiefs, described as a bell-cow back in an ideal situation. The source praises Walker's skill and explosiveness, noting he dominated at Michigan State and Michigan despite predictable play-calling; his ability to succeed with limited passing game context demonstrates elite running ability. The Chiefs' acquisition of Walker signals confidence in his role, and internal FantasyPros analysts (Fitz, D-Bro, Erickson) have been bumping him up in rankings recently, with ECR trending upward.

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NegativeProjection45:21

The source ranks Kenneth Walker at RB 15 overall (player 28 overall), below Derek Henry, Kyron, Breece Hall, and Jeremiah Love, citing injury durability concerns. Walker has maxed out at 252-255 touches in his first two NFL seasons and has shown multiple injury issues; the source does not trust him to sustain a high-touch workload beyond 250 touches. While acknowledging Walker's explosive running ability and the Chiefs' favorable situation, the source cautions against using him as an RB1 or RB2, framing him as a fragile asset despite upside potential.

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NegativeProjection47:58

The source ranks Walker around RB14 but explicitly avoids RB1/RB2 designation due to injury durability concerns post-contract extension; the concern is not skill-based but rather the fragility of surviving the season and the type of workload the Chiefs might allocate, which could limit his upside despite talent.

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NegativeUsage61:42

The source expresses concern about Kenneth Walker's volume in the Seahawks offense, stating 'I don't think he survives the volume for Washington' and 'I don't think he gets the volume.' This is the same volume concern the source has with Jacksonville wide receivers.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveProjection7:12

Kyler Murray's arrival in Minnesota is viewed as a significant upgrade over the Vikings' historically poor QB play from last season (rookie JJ McCarthy, Max Brosmer, Carson Wentz). Source emphasizes Kevin O'Connell's track record of revitalizing struggling quarterbacks, citing Sam Darnold's transformation before winning a Super Bowl, suggesting KOC can bring Murray back to form after his poor Arizona tenure.

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NegativeProjection9:01

The source notes that people believe in Kevin O'Connell's ability to fix quarterbacks more than they believe in Kyler Murray coming in and fixing the entire Cardinals situation, suggesting market skepticism about Murray's impact relative to the coaching change.

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Malik Nabers

NegativeInjury5:12

Conflicting injury reports from Giants camp: initial report suggested he might miss the first month of the season, followed by a report indicating he could return to practice the following week. Video evidence showed him working at approximately 90% capacity, though swelling risk remains a concern similar to Ricky Pearsall's situation.

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PositiveValue5:18

Ranked as WR13 overall (28th overall, early third round) with potential to climb to WR7 if he practices in full and plays in preseason. Source moved him down to WR22 after initial injury report, then back up to WR13 with improved camp reports, and will continue climbing with positive news. Fully healthy ranking would be WR7, alongside Drake Lennon, Nico Collins, and George Pickens.

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PositiveInjury5:25

Giants GM Joe Shane reported that Nabers, recovering from an ACL injury, will participate in individual drills during early training camp stages. The source was ahead of consensus in not expecting Nabers to play Week 1 but is now encouraged by the positive reports from Giants camp. The source maintains Nabers as a second-round pick and WR7 overall in rankings despite the ACL recovery timeline.

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Mecole Hardman

PositiveValue60:00

The source mentions Mecole Hardman as a preferred alternative in the fourth round, suggesting taking Hardman and then circling back to grab Tyler Warren as a tight end option, rather than committing to either Loveland or Higgins early.

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Odell Beckham

NegativeRole50:00

The source mentions Odell as part of the Giants' wide receiver room but does not identify him as a primary pass-catching option, suggesting limited role clarity or uncertainty.

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Omarion Hampton

PositiveValue29:54

Marion Hampton is ranked one spot above James Cook in the source's running back rankings, with the source stating 'Marion Hampton is one spot above James cook for me.' However, at the 10–11 turn in a 10-man league, CMC and Cook are preferred over Hampton due to draft capital efficiency.

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Parker Washington

NegativeBust61:42

The source expresses skepticism about Parker Washington despite current hype, stating 'I'm just not there' on him. The source notes Washington will continue to return punts, which is unusual for a premier player, and the Jaguars drafted two tight ends and extended Brenton Strange, limiting Washington's volume. The source's concern is fundamentally about volume availability.

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Ricky Pearsall

NegativeInjury2:36

The 49ers have concerns about Ricky Pearsall's knee issues and are exploring all options regarding next steps in addressing the injury, per ESPN. The source has been out on Pearsall as a whole this season in personal rankings.

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NegativeInjury2:56

The 49ers are exploring all options regarding Pearsall's knee issues. The source has ranked him at WR57, down from an initial ranking of 42, citing injury concerns and the pattern of recurring knee problems that suggest an extended absence rather than a quick recovery. The source views Pearsall as potentially injury-prone and notes the injuries are piling up, making him difficult to invest in despite the 49ers' talent at receiver (Christian Kirk, Mike Evans, George Kittle).

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NegativeInjury60:09

Ricky Pearsall's injury eliminates him from redraft consideration for the source, who states 'I'm just not going to draft Ricky Pearsall' following the injury.

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Tee Higgins

PositiveMatchup31:00

In a Week 1 matchup analysis between Tee Higgins (vs. Tampa Bay) and A'Mecca Buka (vs. Cincinnati), the source leans toward Higgins due to Tampa Bay's secondary losses. The source states 'it's probably T in this situation just because Tampa Bay has lost a decent amount. Obviously Jamel Dean is gone. It's Zion McCollum and Ben Morrison at corner now. So T is more experienced.' However, the source notes this is a close call given Cincinnati's defensive struggles.

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Travis Etienne

PositiveProjection42:41

The source includes Travis Etienne in the strong running back tier (13–20 range), indicating confidence in his production this season.

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Travis Kelce

NegativeValue49:08

The source suggests Kelce as a late-round pairing strategy with Isaiah Likely to test if Kelce still has elite production; positioned as a speculative upside play for those who miss elite tight ends early.

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Trey McBride

PositiveValue21:49

The source views Trey McBride as a strong tight end value if he falls to the third round, stating 'I think that's a little pricey still tree McBride falling into the third. I'm taking him there.' This reflects confidence in McBride's upside at a discount relative to Bowers.

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PositiveRole48:35

The source identifies McBride as an elite tight end option worth targeting in the third round, positioning him as a tier-one tight end prospect in the draft.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveRole43:23

Tucker Craft is highlighted as a dominant performer from last year with a strong offensive role outlook. The source states 'he dude was dominant playing last year' and believes 'they have a nice plan for him' going forward. Craft is included in the source's preferred tight end group if missing out on Bowers or McBride in premium formats, though ranked slightly below Warren and Loveland.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveValue43:03

Tyler Warren is positioned as a breakout candidate in tight end premium leagues, with the source noting that recent Alec Pierce news warrants moving Warren up in rankings. While ranked below Colston Loveland, Warren is grouped in the second tier of tight ends alongside Loveland, ahead of Fant, Junior, and Tucker Craft. The source emphasizes Warren 'offers the most upside' if pushed into Loveland's tier, citing his rookie status and potential for growth.

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PositiveValue60:00

The source suggests Tyler Warren as a tight end option to target on the way back after taking Mecole Hardman in the fourth round, as an alternative to committing to Loveland or Higgins early.

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0:40It's Thursday, July 30th. NFL training camp news is certainly heating up and draft rankings are being adjusted as we speak.
0:46It's a beautiful time to be alive and it's a beautiful time for another Q&A coming your way right here on twitch.tv slash fantasypros.
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0:59I'm your host, Seth Wilcock, joined by my partner in crime, Scott Big Time Bogman.
1:03Boggs, there's something about this time of year, man, where the boys of summer, they roll into campuses across the country and
1:10hit the practice field for the first time together in front of both the fans and the media that is certainly special.
1:16And I can remember a ton of years growing up out here in Western Pennsylvania, traveling down to St.
1:22Vincent College to see Steelers training camp live in action.
1:24Obviously, you are a Lurs fan, but you grew up in the South.
1:28So have you ever been to NFL training camp before?
1:31I've been to a couple Cardinals training camps for like a day, but I was pretty young when I did that.
1:37It's pretty hot out in Arizona. You don't want to do that stuff.
1:41That was before they were doing the camps, you know, in the stadium because it's too hot.
1:46So it's not a fun thing in Arizona. My thing in terms of like preseason stuff would have been spring training in
1:52Arizona because that happens in March when it's nice and cool.
1:55I say cool, but it's, you know, 75 to 80, but it's perfect in March in Arizona, not so much in July and August.
2:02So not a big fan of going to the camps, but it is enjoyable in places that aren't Arizona or Texas, I'm sure.
2:09Yeah, it certainly is. That, you know, that 70 degree, 80 degree weather right now, a little bit of a breeze is
2:15kind of what we have rolling through here in Pennsylvania right now.
2:18So I have the vibes to go down there to St.
2:21Vincent. Maybe I'll stop down in the next couple of weeks.
2:25I got a honeymoon trip coming up next week.
2:27I don't think my every wife wants to go to training camp for their honeymoon.
2:32I'll see if we can squeeze that in there a time or two, but folks, go ahead, drop your questions below and
2:38we'll be sure to get to them over the next 50 or so minutes.
2:42And you can also make sure you check out the fans, pros YouTube channel and the audio feed for our full offerings of episodes and short form content.
2:50And Boggs, before we dive into some questions here, I did want to talk about some of the latest news around the
2:56league, including that the 49ers have some concern about Ricky Pearsall's knee issues and are quote, exploring all options when it comes to the next step.
3:04When addressing it, this is courtesy of Nick Wagner of ESPN.com.
3:07I've said it before, Boggs. I've kind of been out on Ricky Pearsall as a whole this season in my personal rankings,
3:13just because look, injuries are a real thing. And at the same time, you have other guys coming into this offense, struggling.
3:19You also have Christian Kirk and of course, Mike Evans, George Kittle coming back healthy.
3:24Another year of Christian McCaffrey. I'm down at wide receiver 57.
3:27That's where I've been on him. Do you think you'll be in that same vicinity following this news out of 49ers camp?
3:33Yeah. You know, my initial ranking on him, I believe was 42.
3:37Uh, okay. I had, I had him like, you know, after a couple upside swings in Makai Lemon and Concepcion and, uh,
3:43Brian Thomas, but I did have him ahead of like Parker Washington and Josh Downs and Stefan Diggs.
3:48I think with this injury, I'm probably going to move him down to 53.
3:52That would be below Quentin Johnson, Jaden Higgins, Michael Wilson, and Josh Downs for me.
3:56So yeah, probably in that range, this sucks, man.
3:59And it's really starting to the injuries and, and specifically this continued knee injury are starting to pile up for our guy, Ricky.
4:06And it seems like he might be one of those injury prone players and a guy that has had injuries.
4:11So it might just be the knee. It might just need to be drained and he'll be back next week and whatever.
4:18It doesn't seem like that though. It seems like it's going to be worse than that and be an extended absence again for Ricky.
4:25And it really hurts this Niners offense. Well, and it's one of the main reasons that is so hard to get invested
4:31with the 49ers from a futures betting standpoint this year.
4:34I've seen a couple of sharp betters bet the season win total under, I think it's flowing around 10 and a half,
4:4011 and a half, depending where you get it.
4:43I think that might still be in play. Like I like this 49ers team, but between this, the Kyle Shanahan incident over
4:49the off season as well, that we're just kind of finding out about this week from newsbreakers.
4:54It's a little bit concerning, right? And you know, we're hoping that people like Christian McCaffrey, like Mike Evans, like George Kittle,
5:00these veterans that are aging a bit can hold up on both the offense and on the defensive side.
5:06Like you have Nick Bosa coming back. You have Fred Warner coming back, but not great vibes.
5:11Not what you want to see from an injury plagued organization in the injury plagued player specifically there in Ricky Pierce.
5:17So I'll keep dropping your questions, guys. We're going to get to them in just a second, but I did want to
5:23also talk about Malik neighbors here, Boggs with you.
5:25We had giants GM, Joe Shane. He said Wednesday that neighbors ACL with that ACL will participate in individual drills during the
5:32early stages of the training camp that comes from Jordan Ray nan of ESPN.
5:36I've again, I think I've been a little bit ahead of consensus here, Boggs.
5:40I didn't think that we might see neighbors week one and that he would be this ready to go early in training
5:46camp, especially after we talked to our injury expert here at fantasy pros, Dr.
5:50Deepak Chona on an episode a couple of weeks ago.
5:53However, I still have him as a second round pick.
5:56I still have him wide receiver seven overall in my rankings.
5:59Where are you going to be at on neighbors?
6:02Are you moving him up after these positive reports coming out of giants camp, which happening in West Virginia this year?
6:08Yeah. I really don't like the fact that we've had two crazy different reports, right?
6:12The first one was a might miss the first month of the season.
6:16We'll see. And the next one is, Hey, you might be back at practice next week.
6:20I just, I saw him kind of, I'm a little in between.
6:24I have him at 13 right now. So that would make it wide receiver, wide receiver 13.
6:29So that would make him, I believe that's 28th in my, uh, overall.
6:32So a early third round pick. Yeah. I just can't get him past like AJ Brown and Ted and Pickens yet.
6:38Right? Like if he was to practice in full and even play in a preseason, then yes, I put him at the
6:45head of this tier, which would be wide receiver seven for me, where I have Drake Lennon, Nico Collins, George Pickens in that area.
6:52So I did, I did move him after we thought he was going to move, you know, miss a month.
6:57I did move him down to 22. Now I've moved him up to 13 and I will continue to climb him.
7:03The more positive news that we get here. So, you know, fully healthy.
7:07I would seven is where I would have him right where you have them.
7:11I just don't know if we're quite there yet.
7:14So weird reports. I know the reports out of camp are much better than the ones that, that are good too.
7:20I got eyes on that video. He looked for like, maybe not a hundred percent, but dang near 90%.
7:25It seems like he's been working. Let's see if he doesn't get any swelling like Ricky Pearsall did after some positive reports about him.
7:32So, you know, uh, I just, I can't, I don't want to have him as a wide receiver one with some questions yet.
7:39So 13 is where I have him right now.
7:41Okay. Uh, string cheese man saying, how are people so high on Justin Jefferson just because Kyler came over?
7:47Uh, he was horrible for the Cardinals. I tend to agree Boggs that, you know, I'm not really adjusting my rankings based
7:53on the Kyler Murray situation because I still, you know, unlike a lot of people, I think this is a legitimate quarterback
7:59battle because the general manager there in, in Minnesota, they did not want to lose their job.
8:04Right. Because I mean, I mean, that's what's on the line.
8:07No, no, no. I understand what you're saying, but, but it is, it's not a competition.
8:12Kyler is the quarterback by a lot. Uh, it's, I don't think, and I've said this on the dynasty show and I
8:18agree with your point for dynasty leagues. I don't think Kyler Murray, this is actually a clip that just came out today on, on, uh, Twitter.
8:26I don't know that Kyler is the long-term solution Minnesota, and they're definitely not done with JJ McCarthy, but I think for
8:32this season, it's definitely going to be Kyler. And I think when you look back at how horrible the quarterback play was, right?
8:39How ridiculously bad the quarterback play was in Minnesota last year, that's why it's like, okay, you have a legitimate NFL quarterback.
8:45Now when last season you had a rookie that wasn't ready, uh, Max Brosmer is not an NFL level quarterback and the
8:51corpse literal corpse of Carson Wentz, that dude was put through the ringer last season, dude.
8:56He was playing well below a hundred percent. So the quarterback play was so horrific last year.
9:01Kevin O'Connell has a great history of bringing these quarterbacks back to life after they've been bad.
9:06How bad was Sam Darnold before he got to Minnesota?
9:08Right. And then he went and won a Superbowl.
9:11So this is kind of the career arc for KOC.
9:14People believe in KOC, I think more than Kyler.
9:17And I think that's why you're seeing the Justin Jefferson resurgence there.
9:20So that, that is, I think that is the answer to your question.
9:24String cheese is that people are more buying KOC fixing quarterbacks and they are Kyler Murray coming in and fixing the entire situation.
9:30When it's also just a belief in this player, right?
9:33I mean, how many times have you well show Rico and the gang over on the baseball side this year when these
9:39players got off to slow starts, like the Fernando Tatis juniors, you're like, buy them, buy them, buy them.
9:45And like, it's the same type of situation. I just can't fade Justin Jefferson, who was a wide receiver one for fantasy
9:51as a rookie with again, Kirk cousins, but you know, it's not like Kirk cousins ever been a world beater.
9:57Right. So for me, I think it's just believing in the talents, believing in the system, it's believing in the head coach.
10:03And you know, I still believe in JJ more than I think most people do, but either way, whether it's Kyler or JJ, this is his second year.
10:11That was pretty much his rookie year last year.
10:14He didn't get to play there as a true rookie.
10:17And he played in a Michigan offense that never allowed him to really, you know, sit back and chuck it when he was there with the Wolverine.
10:25So appreciate the question there, string cheese. We're going to get some more questions, but first I did want to remind everyone
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11:39All right, here's, we got another question coming in from Clayton.
11:42Who are your top five league winners in a 10 man PPR league?
11:46Boggs, give me three of your favorite league winners, rapid fire, and I'll give, uh, to my own to Clayton league winners.
11:52Okay. I guess I really like the value of Jadarian price at running back.
11:56Uh, I, you know, I we're getting positive reports on everybody.
12:00They can't all be great. I do not believe Charbonnet is going to be ready for week one.
12:05I think that report or early in the season, I think it's all absurd.
12:09I think it's Halloween at earliest for sure. I've also been the guy on Charbonnet early as well.
12:14You can be the guy on all the hurt guys.
12:17I'm never going to be. Uh, so I think Jadarian price is a first round pick.
12:21We don't know what his ceiling is. We honestly don't because he was behind Jeremiah love in college.
12:27Right. And Jeremiah love was a top five pick.
12:29So Jadarian price, I think gets that job. He is a league winner for me.
12:33Um, let me see, like a good value wide receiver that you want to say I'm all in on Zay flowers this year.
12:40I think that this year is going to be more vertical in a new offense for the Ravens.
12:45I understand that he's not getting a lot of touchdowns, but he had 1200 yards last year.
12:50He's wide receiver seven in half PPR and full PPR.
12:53So there's a lot of room for growth in a more vertical system.
12:57And if you wait on tight end, I prefer to get a top three or four tight end.
13:02I want one of ours, McBride, Loveland craft Warren.
13:04Like I want one of that group. But if you wait, I really like Isaiah likely because he gets away from Mark Andrews.
13:11I also like Mark Andrews because he gets away from Isaiah likely.
13:14I think they're both going to be better this year.
13:17Right. But I do think that if you're waiting and you want a value pick, Isaiah likely is a guy that I
13:24really am going to have in a lot of leagues this year.
13:27Two more for you, Clayton. I love cam scadaboo at his current cost as well.
13:31I have him as a top 18 running back.
13:34And this is a guy bogs. A lot of people said coming out, he can't catch the ball.
13:39He can't, he's not fast enough. Well, did you ever watch what he did at Arizona state?
13:44Wasn't me the same. Yeah. Oh, I know brother.
13:47I know you're out there taking bullets for drafting this guy in the first round of dynasty rookie drafts.
13:52And dude, I'll tell you what he did everything he did at Arizona state tenfold last year with his short stint with
13:58the New York giants while healthy, he's back doing backflips.
14:01He's back giving the Ric Flair woos as John Harbaugh is giving press conferences.
14:05This is a guy they want to run this team around.
14:08They want to be a run heavy offense. Greg Roman.
14:11Don't forget. He might not be the offensive coordinator, but he is on that coaching staff up there in East Rutherford.
14:17And they're going to pound the ball with cam scadaboo.
14:20And he's also giving you that touchdown and receiving upside.
14:23And the other player that I think is just going a little bit undervalued right now, a Mecca book a dude.
14:29Yeah, this is a guy who he was a wide receiver one, the hottest thing on the planet for the first month of the season.
14:36He ends up getting injured with that hamstring injury, I believe.
14:39And we also saw Baker Mayfield get injured as well.
14:42Baker Mayfield is going to go scorched earth right now.
14:45He's betting on himself based on the contract that the Buccaneers offered him.
14:49He did not take that. So I think he's going to be ready to grip it and rip it.
14:54I think a Mecca book is going to take that step as a wide receiver one this year as well with Mike Evans out of town.
15:02I'm expecting big things from both those guys. So there's a couple of league winners for you.
15:07Clayton, we also have a couple of league winner episodes up there on the YouTube from Pat Fitz, Tara, everyone here at
15:13fantasy pros as well, that you can check out all their league winners.
15:17And then we also have full send coming in saying, sup boys in mock drafts at the end of the one, two turn.
15:23I find myself wanting to take two running backs.
15:26Can this be a reach? I like Barkley and James cook box.
15:29I think this is an amazing question because right now in my home league, I pulled the 12 overall pick in my, uh, in our, in our lottery.
15:37We did that at my wedding. Also wife was not a huge fan of us taking over the PA system for about
15:4415 minutes while we figure that out. But Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do for the, for the, for the boys back home.
15:51And I'm on the one, two turn right now.
15:53I have offers to move up to the eight slot.
15:56I have offers to move up to the four slot.
15:59I kind of like hanging around 12, especially when I get Malik neighbors potentially in that, like my ideal world would be
16:05go running back, running back, get myself, no Marion Hampton and James cook, say, quant someone in that range, and then come
16:12back and get me Malik neighbors, a Tet or an Emeka Buka as my wide receiver one and two.
16:17It is kind of crazy though, to do that in a way, because you could get sniped a lot there in the third round with receivers.
16:25So is this a, is this a reach type of a strategy?
16:28If you go RB RB at that one, two turn, or could it be advantageous to lock up some of these workhorse running backs?
16:35Yeah. I don't think it, I don't think it really hamstrings you.
16:38I think the one thing that it does, and it really depends on if you have two or three wide receivers nearly right?
16:45Like yeah, if you have three wide receivers, then I think what it does is it makes your next picks a little
16:51conditional because when you have three wide outs in a, I guess, did he say this is a 10 man or is
16:58this a, we didn't get the amount? I'm just assuming 12 team.
17:01I will assume 12 too. So it's a two wide receiver league.
17:05Okay. Way more viable in a two wide receiver league, right?
17:08Because the thing with wide receivers in fantasy now is there's so much depth that it's almost an arms race, right?
17:14Like you need to keep up with the rest of your league at wide receiver.
17:18So if you do take two running backs there, one of those next picks has to be a wide out.
17:24So if not, if not both, probably both, but one of them has to be.
17:28And if it's in a three wide receiver, they definitely both need to be a wide receiver.
17:33So it kind of cuts you off from any good deals at wide receiver or a tight end or QB in that
17:39area to me, because you don't want to fall behind, uh, in weaponizing those wide receivers, right?
17:44You don't want to be the guy that, you know, the, the, our draft evaluator says that you're 12th at wide receiver
17:51at the end, because you went early on your RB.
17:53So it's, it's more than viable for sure. Uh, it can work, but it does make your third and fourth round a
18:00little more conditional to get those wide receivers to stay in pace with everybody else in your league.
18:05Yeah. I think if you're going to go running back, running back, you definitely can't double dip on the onesie positions in the elite tiers.
18:12Right. And I think you honestly, like, I don't mind then third, fourth, fifth, sixth round, three of those four now need to be a wide receiver.
18:20I mean, you do put yourself a little bit in that hamstrung position that you mentioned Boggs.
18:25It has to be a little bit conditional rather than playing just BPA like we'd like to do, but I'm not going
18:31to, I'm not going to be the guy who is going out here and saying, don't draft elite running backs.
18:37Don't get that on production early in drafts because market, you know, market a bunch, see what you like, see what you hate.
18:43And you know, cause I've done that. I've gone in with the, I'm just going to pivot when everybody else is going,
18:50I'm going to take two RBs and see what this looks like.
18:53And I mock and mock and mock, and it looks like garbage every single time.
18:57It's like, Oh, you know what? I'm going to throw this strategy away.
19:01I'm going to take an RB and a wide receiver at the top, see what it looks like coming back.
19:07And usually that has been better for me, but I think this year is a good year to do that strategy specifically
19:13because I really like the top of RB. And full send another great way you can practice that mock drafting is using the fancy pros draft Intel tool.
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20:16And, uh, speaking of the man himself, W Collins checking in with us as well.
20:21What's up W saying? Uh, Hey pros, I'm in a 12 team, half PPR two wide receiver, two running back, one tight end and a flex league.
20:28What is the best strategy this year? Draft position is random bugs for me.
20:32It's like, I really want, I think I'm like more on punching quarterback than ever before.
20:37Like I've always been kind of of that mindset.
20:40If Jalen hurts or Jackson door, I think fall to me in the sixth, seventh round, I might consider it.
20:45But for me, like I'm really playing best player available for the most part.
20:49I'm not going into one specific strategy, especially if my pick is randomized, but late round quarterback, give me a Jared golf or Patrick Mahomes.
20:57Give me a Malik Willis in the last round.
20:59Like I think that's a very viable strategy of all of them this season.
21:03What about you? Is there one in a traditional redraft that you are more inclined to do?
21:08I think with two wide receivers, I'm more likely to take a tight end pretty high.
21:13Right. So, uh, you know, with two wide outs, like I said, there's a lot of depth to wide receivers.
21:18So I'm more willing to skip that second one.
21:21Right. You have to have the first one for sure, because sure.
21:24You have to keep pace, like we just mentioned, uh, with the other question there.
21:29So, uh, I think, you know, getting an elite tight end is big for me this year.
21:34If I can, it's not a live or die strategy.
21:36It's not, it's like, if I'm sitting in the middle of the second round of Brock Bowers falls to that spot, I'm
21:43taking him every time taking him at the end, like around 13 or 14, I think is the beginning of that second round.
21:49I think that's a little pricey still tree McBride falling into the third.
21:53I'm taking him there. Like one of these tight ends falls to me in an advantageous spot.
21:58I'm willing to take them. I think that's kind of what it is.
22:02But in terms of specific strategies, like I definitely am taking running back, running back.
22:06No, typically I like to take an RB and a wide receiver pretty much, you know, one or the other in every
22:12single one of my first two rounds. I'm willing to skip the wide receiver in the second round.
22:17If Brock Bowers falls to me at a deal in the third of trade McBride falls to me at that point.
22:23And like you said, I'm more, more than willing to punt quarterback this year.
22:28I think there are so many good ones, so much upside.
22:31I mean, would you like to have Josh Allen or Lamar?
22:34Of course, but give me the upside with T law.
22:37Give me the upside with Caleb Williams, right? Dak Prescott at 10 is a great deal in one quarterback league.
22:42So there are many, many quarterbacks to take. So that is kind of, I would rather reach for the tight end if I'm getting one premium position.
22:50I completely agree on that with you. And I'm Esther Grimm saying, sadly, I missed the mock draft coming up, but I
22:56hope you all have a good draft. Hey, we're gonna have so many fun mock drafts coming throughout the season.
23:02We're also gonna be doing them strictly in our discord community as well.
23:06In addition to the live stream mock drafts that we're doing with you as well.
23:10So master Grimm, everyone else who didn't get into any of our mock drafts this week, we still have a ton coming your way.
23:17Mock draft Monday coming up very, very soon as August approaches there in the discord with some of our, uh, and your favorite pros as well.
23:25Metal James checking in. What's up, James? Hope you're having a great afternoon here.
23:29Thursday already. This week has flown by Boggs. I got back from the expo late Monday evening, and all of a sudden
23:35I feel like it's already a week from where I left, uh, for the expo last week.
23:40So great time out there. I appreciate everyone who came up to me and said the very kind words about our content
23:46and checking out all of our tools and Acadian spice up next here in the chat saying draft Kings, best ball pick one Oh two.
23:53I started off B. John London McBride through three picks thoughts.
23:56Love it. I'd give it a B plus. Like I am actually like the Falcons are not the team I really want to stack on.
24:04Like I know we're in best ball and we need to don't even start with this.
24:08They're their quarterback right now. I mean, it's an undrafted free agent.
24:12It's one, one of our guys that Thor loves.
24:14I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but I just, I don't know, man.
24:19That's the team I'm a little bit worried about.
24:22And like, even like B. John, like how far, and I guess let's parlay this to Boggs with another question.
24:28How long do B. John and Gibbs have to sit out for us to start getting concerned, like with the wide receivers
24:34over the past few seasons that if you didn't fade them like Terry McLaurin, if you didn't fade them like Brandon Iuke
24:40the year before that, they got you into trouble drafting at a premium price.
24:44I mean, uh, not now. Uh, I don't, I don't care about anything going to three weeks.
24:49Yeah. I it's not going to be that long though.
24:52Like you just, these guys are going to take a lot of hits for the season.
24:57So I really don't care if they don't work until, you know, uh, the middle of August, honestly.
25:02So it it's, it B. John and Gibbs are up there.
25:05I love B. John. Uh, I think McBride in the third, we just got talking about that.
25:10I love that in a best ball. So yeah, I mean, I don't like, like you said, getting involved with two Falcons
25:16here might be a little risky, but I think you're, I think you're going to be fine.
25:21Right. Uh, I think Tua is going to be okay.
25:24It's Cooper rush is who you're thinking of, I believe, or is it Jack strand, Jack strand.
25:29I believe it was Minnesota Moorhead is where he was at.
25:32Uh, Thor brought him up to, uh, up to me when we were stranded in an airport trying to get to the
25:38senior bowl this year, we had a long conversation about strand.
25:42He came on and touted him on the, uh, fancy pros NFL draft show with Derek and myself as well.
25:47So, uh, Jack strand, Thor called it all the way back when man.
25:51Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not, I'm not worried about it.
25:54I, the thing that worries me more about B.
25:56John is the hair this year. I don't really like it.
26:00So I don't know. I don't think I've seen the hair.
26:03I'll send you, uh, I'll, I'll send you a thing when I see it, but it is, it does look weird this year.
26:09So Sal, if you're not working in the back end right now, not, not busy, can we get a full screen of, uh, the, the B.
26:17John with the new hair look? I have not seen this.
26:20I'm curious to see how this plays out. It can't be worse than some of the hairstyles we've seen over the past few years, man.
26:27Like Justin Herbert was going through one, a cut there for a minute, long to short Joe Burrow.
26:32Wait till you see it. Wait till you see it.
26:35The backstreet boy look a year ago too. Okay.
26:38Yeah. So I was going to pull that up for us.
26:41We'll bring that up in a second there. I, I don't know.
26:44I can't imagine it's that bad. Uh, while he does that, let's get to Bova Knight's question and pros.
26:50Please help me pick three keepers in a 12 man super flex PPR league, three wide receiver spots where I pick 12th.
26:56I love these keeper questions guys, especially when they actually, you know, account for the pick.
27:01So keep them coming. James cook for a fourth.
27:03Ooh, baby. Ted O'errm McMillan for a fifth Monty for an eighth cam word for a ninth, uh, Harold fan junior for
27:10a 10th Ramond Ray for a 14th. I mean, I think you got to cook, keep cooking the fourth, right?
27:15Can we say that one's consensus? And the fifth, 10 and the fifth, I would then honestly, like, I mean, even cam
27:22ward for ninth and super flex is fine. I think it's, it's him or, or fan and junior for me.
27:27I think it's probably warden and super flex just to do the QB math there.
27:32But fan and in the 10th is also great.
27:34If there, if you do think there's going to be a lot of quarterbacks going back in.
27:39So it's one of those two for sure. I think in most cases, I'm going to keep cam ward just because the
27:46deal in the ninth and quarterbacks are just hard to come by in a 12 team super flex.
27:51So that's probably my keeper, but it's definitely cook and Ted and then one of ward or fan.
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29:30I'm 10th in a 10 man league. I'm thinking RBRB on the 10 11 turn.
29:34Okay. Idea bad idea. Also, if you had CMC cook, chase Brown, Hampton, gente H and which two will you pick?
29:40We were kind of talked about the strategy of this bog.
29:43So out of those running backs, I do have CMC ranked the highest and I believe right behind him.
29:49I do have James cook as well, but I actually I'm I lied.
29:53Uh, Oh, Marion Hampton is one spot above James cook for me.
29:56So, but at that price, CMC and cook for me.
29:59Okay. Pretty easy. Okay. Yeah. And I, I, I have Hampton and cook in the same tier, but I do have them decently far apart.
30:06So it, I, where do you have H and ranked compared to those players?
30:10Six. I'm right. Okay. Right behind cook. So, okay.
30:13Yeah. Don't hate that, that idea either, but like, I will say if Justin Jefferson or CD lamb fall to you there,
30:19you really need to have like elite positions, uh, players.
30:22And so I think I'm less inclined to go RBRB and a 10 man league.
30:26And I would consider, Hey, give me a CMC or a cook.
30:30And then can I have a Justin Jefferson or a CD?
30:33Cause I would think, well, you know, two of those four players would be available.
30:37So just something to keep in mind there. Let's go ahead.
30:40And we got one here from Dom, the goat, the absolute goat here asking who do we want for week one T
30:47Higgins or a Mecca, a Buka same game, same time, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay.
30:50We're going down to the city with the skyline chilly there.
30:531 PM on Fox. So Boggs, do you want to attack this bangle secondary that has looked somewhat improved so far in training camp?
31:00They're getting rowdy yesterday. Jamar chase getting some scraps with some of the newer secondary members out there, or do you want
31:07a Mecca Buka, the presumptive wide receiver one against them?
31:10Or do you want T Higgins the other way around going against Tampa Bay and what's kind of a younger secondary there down in South Florida?
31:17Yeah, it's probably T in this situation just because Tampa Bay has lost a decent amount.
31:22Obviously Jamel Dean is gone. It's Zion McCollum and Ben Morrison at corner now.
31:26So T is more experienced. Obviously Joe Burrow healthy in week one is going to be huge.
31:31I'm probably leaning slightly towards T, but I mean, it is a coin flip because the bangles defense still sucks and it's getting hurt right now.
31:38So yeah, I'm probably going T right now, but luckily you don't have to decide this anywhere, anywhere soon.
31:43So yeah, I'd actually be a Buka just because like T Higgins had some real stinkers in week one.
31:49You know what I mean? I think last year he had a donut in week one.
31:53Like he was hurting some teams. So like Bengals traditionally slow starters, I know they look ready to go this season, but I don't know.
32:01I don't know. I think I'd go with Buka there, but like Boggs had plenty of time there Dom to get the
32:07rest of the fancy pros analyst opinion. And here's one for Hale Doom 86 little Heinz Ward action.
32:12They're saying draft drafting 12, 12 team PPR, two running backs, two wide receivers, two flex thoughts on picking RBRV again with the 12th and 13th.
32:20A lot of people just want confirmation on the strategy.
32:22We're, we're giving it right. Like, but again, uh, in a 12 team, it makes your third and fourth round picks conditional probably to both be wide receivers.
32:31So you're almost at the behest of what falls back to you.
32:34If a bunch of wide receivers go, you're still taking wide receivers.
32:37So I think running back wide receiver is probably better, but again, like we said before, mock it a bunch of times,
32:44go use our tools, mock your league, put in all of the correct settings and see what falls to you and do
32:50it, do a different strategy each time and do the same strategy a bunch of times as well and see which one
32:56you really like at the end of the day.
32:59They're not all going to draft exactly like that, but it's not going to fall.
33:03No draft falls exactly the same way, but you can at least know kind of the middling.
33:08If you're doing the same strategy four to five times in each of them, you'll know around about what you're going to get.
33:15Yeah. Shout to some of our other listeners checking in the regulars.
33:18We got Van Rod who's been popping around. Thank you so much, Van Rod.
33:22I'm Prezzy saying, hello, my goats. What up, Prezzy?
33:25I don't get called a goat enough, Boggs. I don't get called, I don't get those kind compliments outside of the fantasy pro street.
33:32So thank you so much for that. Uh, my friend at Prezzy, you're our goat.
33:36If that means anything to you, we're going to get some more questions here as well, but the Bichon picture, we're ready.
33:42We're ready. Yep. Sal, go ahead and bring up, I want to see a live first reaction.
33:47Seth Wilcock reacting to the Bichon Robson new haircut salad.
33:50Let's see what we're, uh, what working with out here in hot Lanta.
33:54Oh, that can't be real. I told you that can't be, I mean, he really like he's going for the Will Smith genie look for sure.
34:01And yeah, I'm a fan of Aladdin. I, you know, I even liked the live action Aladdin too.
34:06I think it's one of the better Disney live action remakes.
34:10What are you giving that on a scale of like one to 10?
34:13I'm probably going to one and a half. I'll just say that.
34:17Right. Like it looks weird. Look, express yourself any way you want.
34:20I just think I do the left is so much better.
34:23Like the old hairstyle to me. Oh, it's so much better.
34:26So if you were going out to like, if, if Bichon was just like one of my boys and we're going out
34:33to a bar, like, I think I'd be like secondhand embarrassed, honestly.
34:36You know what I mean? Like, you know, sometimes you go out with your boys, like, what are you wearing?
34:42Or like, what are you doing? And then it's like, that's just Bichon being Bichon.
34:46I guess though, huh? Around my buddies, you'd have to be worried.
34:50No one has the clippers ready to go. You know what I mean?
34:53Like that. Yeah. Oh yeah. That, that, that thing is not living very long around my friends.
34:58If I'm rocking it, I can tell you that much.
35:01My, uh, my brother's best friend, the morning of my wedding calls me and says, one of my groomsmen's a barber.
35:07He says, Hey, can I get a haircut from, uh, from Noah?
35:11Your, your, your buddy, who's the barber said more to my wedding way to wait, but his hair, he let it go for so long.
35:18And it wasn't like the nice luscious hair that you had.
35:21It was kind of scrungy and kind of looked a little rat taily.
35:25So like we got them cleaned up, but yeah, I agree.
35:28I agree. The boys got to have the hair on point right now or just throw a hat on either one of the two under a hat.
35:36I could, I was at the point where I was, my hats are all now stretched in the last like year.
35:42I could not wear any of them. It just give me a headache, man.
35:46It's just too much pressure in there. I'm sure.
35:48I'm sure. Here's one from a coaster fam saying, uh, I'm a beginner.
35:52Can you give me advice? First year doing fancy easiest thing I can say a couple of different things.
35:57Go to fancy pros.com. Make sure you're using all of our tools.
36:01We have the fancy pros draft assistant, which would actually walk alongside you during your draft is super valuable for you.
36:07Um, you can also check out the ECR rankings and tiers.
36:10You can create custom cheat sheets. Like if you're like, Hey, I don't really trust this Bogman guy.
36:15I don't want his rankings. I just may want Derek Brown or Andrew Erickson, or maybe this nice looking goaded Seth Wolcott kid.
36:22You can filter out those with your cheat sheets.
36:24Again, use draft Intel, try to get some data on your league if they've drafted in the past, even if you haven't
36:31been a part of that and also join the fans, pros discord community, which I guess I can plug that right now as well.
36:38Fancy pros.com slash chat. You can chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs actually wind up on our podcast
36:44feed and our current schedule for the fans, pros discord community.
36:47Right now we have worm and fits five Eastern on the first Tuesday of every month, taking your question and bogs and
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36:57So come get your questions answered and be on the show at fancy pros.com slash chat.
37:01Yeah. Great way to make sure you are getting invested with more analysis, more advice, more Q and a's over there.
37:07Bogs. Come hang with us for sure. Just to add on, onto coasters question here, I would say, you know, no, every
37:13single strategy of, or every single rule of your league.
37:16Are we standard? Are we half? Are we getting six points per passing touchdown?
37:20What are the roster limits? Do I have two wide receivers or three?
37:24Am I a super flex? Am I tight in premium?
37:27Know all of this stuff? Know your, uh, waiver transactions.
37:30Is it from a fab? Is it just a rolling list?
37:33How does that work for your league? Know all that stuff before going in.
37:37That's not hard. It takes 10 minutes to read that on your, your league page and really understand it.
37:42And then mock, like Seth said, uh, use the tools, mock a lot, uh, get some practice drafts in there just to
37:49see where guys are going, see which guys maybe are going to get reached on a little bit.
37:54Your league's always going to be different from what you get, but this will help you a lot when you get there.
38:00Don't know. Oh damn. I got to really like in the fifth went in the fourth.
38:05What do I need to pivot to here in the fifth?
38:08You know what I mean? So I just think practice makes perfect in pretty much everything.
38:13So do some mock drafts, know your league and have a strategy to go in.
38:17That's the best advice we can give you. Yep.
38:20It certainly is a coaster fam. Good luck. And like, I would just say, like, enjoy it, right?
38:25Because each, each season is a ride. You don't have to be so laser focused.
38:29The first F in fantasy is for fun as far as I'm concerned.
38:33So, you know, a lot of people, uh, play very seriously for money, but what brought us all here?
38:38Everything fun brought us to fantasy football. So take it seriously, but don't stress out about it.
38:43Take some of the players that you like, but know that, you know, you can't take every player on your favorite team.
38:49That's not going to work. Right. So try to diversify that portfolio as far as players go, but you know, yeah, enjoy it and have fun.
38:57Don't stress out about it. Yep. Be willing to take some risks, be willing to be proven wrong and be willing to adjust your opinion.
39:04Those are the biggest things we learn lessons every single year, playing fantasy football and some that we can actually apply back to life.
39:11Yeah. I was going to say, Seth, given life advice out here, not fantasy advice.
39:15Absolutely. Hey, it's willing to grow. Yes. Yes. Be willing to grow, uh, some new followers, solar Coke and, uh, Clayton Williams 13 coming in as well.
39:23I don't think I really would like like a Coke can sitting out like it, like in the sun.
39:28That's kind of what I thought of when I heard solar Coke.
39:32I'm like warm Coke and not, not me. I've been starting to get on the DC train a little bit, a little diet Coke.
39:39I had one a couple weeks ago, a little Jack and diet and pretty good bogs.
39:43Pretty for, I don't know how that thing, zero calories.
39:46Middle age right here. He's discovering diet Coke right now.
39:49I gave it, I gave, I gave soda up for years because it would just make me bloated and I didn't like it.
39:56And now like all of a sudden we got some things that are like zero calories running around.
40:01I'm like, all right, I'm back in baby. Definitely.
40:03My addiction is soda. So yeah, I understand. I understand that better than cigarettes, I guess.
40:08So I guess so. I guess so. 12 man, half PPR except, uh, except drunk SIGs and, uh, and golf course SIGs do not count.
40:15So those are fine. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Yeah.
40:18I mean the rest of them, I can't, I can't speak to, but, um, max here saying 12 man, half PPR 12th or seventh pick kill me.
40:26Yeah. Uh, league historically has gone RB heavy. What strategy should I fall here for the first five rounds?
40:31Again, I think you're in the seventh pick and like, to me, Boggs, like I'm just combed BPA really.
40:36Like, especially there in the first round, like I'm not forcing.
40:40I know like sometimes when the running back or when your league goes running back heavy, like I'm not afraid to ZIG while others are zagging.
40:47Absolutely. Yeah. And I think the nice part about being in the middle is realizing that no run is going to get past you.
40:54Right. So if the RBs are going and you are getting antsy about it, no run gets past you because you're smack in the middle.
41:01Right. So I think that you're probably going to be fine here.
41:05If you want to go RB with that first pick great.
41:08But I mean, if JSN falls to you or a mantra, uh, I would be fine taking those guys and waiting on
41:14running back because running back is a little bit deeper.
41:17The top end looks real good this year. And I think people get wishy-washy on like, you know, 13 to 20, somewhere like that.
41:24But I like it, man. I like a lot of it.
41:27Uh, I think Javante is great. Josh Jacobs isn't getting suspended this season.
41:31It looks like Bucky is back and healthy. I expect a big breakout for Trayvon Henderson.
41:35Travis CTN is here. Your boy Cam. I like Jadarian price even late.
41:39So I think there's a lot like a running back.
41:42So even if your league is piling up on running back again, like we said, practice from the seven spots, see what
41:48you like and see what is absolutely not acceptable to you because you can even switch the strategy to RB heavy.
41:54So, uh, and see what it looks like. So yes, I would, I would practice some mocks and see what that looks
42:01like and, uh, build your strategy before your draft.
42:03I'm Prezi asking Seth, where do I get up hold of you in discord to ask your opinion on my roster slash draft?
42:10I really appreciate that Prezi right now. I don't have my own AMA that that's not a requirement of my job as
42:16opposed to some of these full-time analysts. Cause I'm also in the backend of things and hosting, but you can go ahead
42:22and just tag me in there, put it in the general chat, put me in any of those chats and just tag
42:29me, or you can DM me there. Um, I think my username is between underscore Seth FF.
42:34So either DM me or just, if you want everyone to join in the conversation and just, you know, continue to get
42:40feedback from other analysts, other fancy football players as well.
42:43Just drop that in there, tag me and you can get ahold of me there, Prezi, but appreciate it, man.
42:48I want to continue that conversation after this with you as well.
42:52Um, and then here is a question from, uh, let's go with like hot soda instead of solar Coke.
42:57I like hot soda as the name here and just changing the screen name on the fly, uh, in tight end premium.
43:04Who do you like most outside of Bowers and McBride?
43:07I mean, it's obviously Colston Loveland. And for me, Tyler Warren, like I do have Loveland above Warren in my rankings, but
43:13with this Alec Pierce news, like I think Tyler Warren has to continue to get moved up the rankings bog.
43:19So they're like, I have McBride and Bowers in their own tier and then Loveland and Warren in their own tier, then
43:25followed by fan and junior and Tucker craft for me.
43:28I have Browders and McBride in their own tier and then Loveland in his own tier.
43:32So I, then I have Warren craft fan and pits in the same tier.
43:36I, and I think you're right about Warren. We're not definitely offers the most upside.
43:41If you want to push them into that tier with Loveland, because he was a rookie last year, I get that.
43:47There's just been a lot of talk about Josh downs.
43:50They both play over the middle of the field.
43:52So I'm a little less enthused about Warren than I am Loveland, but it's not by a lot, man.
43:58So I think that first group of five, uh, and Tucker craft, I understand if you don't want coming off the entry,
44:04I get it, but he dude was dominant playing last year.
44:07And I really think they have a nice, uh, plan for him.
44:11So all of those guys are what I like.
44:13If I do miss out on Bowers or McBride and Titan premium.
44:17Yeah. We're both worn over craft too. It's not like, it's not a huge gap for me, but I am more in over craft, especially healthier player.
44:24Yeah. Okay. Okay. Coin flip to me. So, but, but, uh, Warren as well.
44:28Okay. And a couple more questions we got rolling in here.
44:31First one, W Collins and congrats on the wedding.
44:34Seth must've missed my invite in the mail. It was sent Collins.
44:37It was there brother. And you know, you know, I could have sworn I saw you out there boogying on the dance
44:44floor, uh, next to our boss, John and his wife.
44:47So, uh, that must must've been mistaken there, but, uh, appreciate the congratulations.
44:50It was a great day. And, uh, you know, what a fantastic summer it's been, man, been super busy, 10 year reunion
44:57wedding covering the Pocono race, fancy football expo last week, going up to Boston next week for my honeymoon.
45:02So, uh, we only get to live this like incredibly dumb life because of your guys' support.
45:07So we've really appreciate you guys tuning into streams like this, giving us questions to ask, trusting our analysis and, and trusting
45:13the entire team here at fancy pros for your fancy pros or fancy football needs.
45:18So thank you so much for that. And here's one, another from Clayton.
45:21How do you guys feel about Kenneth Walker? Uh, I have him pretty high, but feel like he's being slept on bell
45:28cow back on the chiefs could have been better.
45:30Couldn't have been a better team to go to pretty much.
45:33So Boggs, I definitely know, like as far as our internal team here at fancy pros, I am the low man on Kenneth Walker right now.
45:41I don't think you're lower than me. Okay. Well, Fitz has bumped them up quite a bit in his rankings.
45:47I've been hearing a lot of good things from D bro and Erickson over the weekend about Kenneth Walker.
45:52I think the tides are starting to shift where he is moving up overall in ECR right now.
45:57I have met at player 28 overall, right? That's kind of where I'm, I'm hanging on to him right now.
46:03We're at RB at RB and particularly I am at on Kenneth Walker.
46:07Let's pull it up here. RB RB 12. I got him at RB 15.
46:11So, okay. I listen, my thing with, with Walker here is not, it's not anything about skill watching this dude play at Michigan state.
46:18Everybody knew what was coming and he still whooped everybody.
46:21What made me love Walker so much was watching him dominate Michigan with five touchdowns, right?
46:25Everybody knows it's coming. Your quarterback is Brian Lewerke.
46:28They're not passing the ball. So Walker's getting 30 carries and he's stomping them.
46:32I mean, the dude is an incredibly explosive runner, right?
46:35But I think the thing that made it work in Seattle is that he didn't have an overabundance of touches.
46:40And I don't think that he can survive a season because he's shown us this first season coming in, he had entries, right?
46:47Last season, it really worked because Charbonnet was taking those goal line, those hard hits, the goal line and those short yard situations.
46:54And Walker wasn't really doing that. Now in the for a game, for two games, for a month, yes, this dude can
47:00touch the ball 28 times, 30 times and not have an issue, but he's had so many injuries in the NFL that
47:06I don't trust him to go much beyond his 250 touches that he maxed out.
47:10He had the most touches his rookie season. I think it was 255.
47:14It was 252 last year before the playoffs. So that's why I think the, the chiefs go out and get Emmitt Johnson,
47:21a dude that had close to 300 touches at the college level last year, right?
47:25A dude that can carry the ball because the only other guy on the roster was Brashad Smith who just converted to
47:31running back this season before he came to the NFL.
47:34He was a wide receiver at SMU, flipped to running back, still kind of learning his paces at the position.
47:40That's why you go and get an Emmitt Johnson.
47:42So to me, I think I'm taking Derek Henry ahead of him.
47:46I'm still Kyron ahead of him. I'm still Brees Hall ahead of him.
47:50And I, I have currently Jeremiah Love ahead of him.
47:52I might move Love down based on what the things that we've heard recently, but it won't be that much further.
47:58So maybe I get Walker up to 14, but I don't want Walker as an RB one as an RB two.
48:04He's fine. There's a lot of upside there. Play the upside.
48:08But as an RB one, I think you're putting your eggs into a fragile basket.
48:12So that is my opinion on Walker. It has nothing to do with skill.
48:16The skill is there. It has to do with surviving the season after getting paid and the type of workload that the
48:22chiefs might give him, I think might not be great for him.
48:26So that is my concern about Kenneth Walker. Yep.
48:28Could not have said it any better myself. A question here from better call Bob as well, saying for whatever reason, if
48:35you miss out on those top tier elite tight end, should we be targeting an elite wide receiver or running back to
48:41put in the flex to give us some type of advantage in that type of league?
48:45Yeah. I absolutely think like if you're not going to go Bowers or McBride in the third or even a Loveland or
48:52Warren in the third, fourth, I think like I'm totally on board with, you know, just continue to load up on those skill positions.
48:59Like my pivot is not Boggs to, okay, I didn't get an elite tight end.
49:03Let me go get Lamar. Let me go get Drake May.
49:06It's it's let me continue to stack up these players that I can throw my flexes where, yeah, maybe I got to
49:12throw out a dart thrown Isaiah, likely a Chigakonkwo in my tight end every week, but I'm going to have an elite
49:19flex where it's at least going to be a trade off.
49:22Yeah. And, and, uh, you know, if you're not getting that elite level tight end, I like, um, your strategy of taking
49:28Isaiah likely, and then maybe taking like a George Kittle to see if he comes back and is the same George Kittle
49:35that we know and love at the end of the season, you know, and maybe likely specifically with Malik neighbors, maybe not
49:41a hundred percent early in the season. Who is the number two in New York, right?
49:45Who is the second pass catcher? It's probably Cam Scadaboo right now.
49:49So who is it actually? It's probably going to be Isaiah likely because it's not going to be Calvin Austin.
49:55You and I know that it's not going to be, um, I guess maybe Darnell Mooney or Darius Slayton again.
50:00Juju is there. Odell is there. Who is going to be catching balls in New York for the Giants?
50:06So to me, it's Isaiah likely that is a strategy that I like.
50:10If you're waiting, you know, you grab him and Chigakonkwo see which one pans out.
50:14You grab him and Kelsey and see if Kelsey still has it.
50:17You grab him and Kittle and see if Kittle is good on the back end.
50:22I don't like Eli Stowers last round. Eli Stowers shot.
50:24I don't hate, I don't like rostering two tight ends specifically the shorter my benches, the less likely I am to do that.
50:31But if I have a deeper bench, you know, we're eight to 10 instead of five or six, five to six.
50:37Yeah. Uh, then I'm much more willing to do that type of strategy.
50:41I can, we also just like everyone can play how they want, but like, give me deeper benches.
50:46I want deeper benches. Like I'm okay with the, you know, the hot waiver wire name, not being there and that I
50:52have to play a little sharks and minnows out there on the wire every single week.
50:57Like I just want less work. I agree with that.
51:00It makes it less more important. Exactly. And it makes like, for me, I just want to be that sharp who has
51:06that guy on my bench already because I've been thinking three steps ahead.
51:10Right. And, and that's how I pride myself in my analysis, how I pride myself in my playing as well.
51:16So he's got 40 checkers over here. He's got them all vote.
51:19Seth Wilcock for commissioner 2026 deeper benches is what I will bring you deeper benches.
51:23My friends, that is what I'm putting on my card of what do you call it?
51:28What do you, what do you call your, your, your campaign slogan deeper benches?
51:32There you go. There you go. Exactly. Yes. My, uh, my, my book of things that I probably will not get done,
51:38but I promise the, the people I will. So if you're a politician, it's definitely not happening.
51:43Absolutely. Uh, we also have a B checking in saying, uh, boys are good to be back in fancy season.
51:49It is, man. I'll tell you what I woke up this week, a little haggard and staggered from, you know, putting in
51:55a couple of shifts out there in Canton, Ohio this past weekend.
51:59But let me tell you when I knew I was getting back and training camp was, was here.
52:04I was ready to go. My friend, I was absolutely ready to go.
52:08Uh, Canadian spice me the comment of the night saying, should I be regretting that B John London McBride?
52:13Start with that haircut. I would be. That's why I didn't give him a man.
52:17I didn't even know about the haircut. Decision making goes down Madden.
52:21Uh, one more time. So I'll give it to us one more time.
52:24I need, I need to see that beautiful haircut.
52:27I like stacking, uh, the Robin Williams, Aladdin in here as well.
52:30The genie. So there it is. There it is.
52:33Oh, it's a rough man. It's a rough look.
52:36You had it going. He had, you know, he could have been there.
52:39I love the flow on the left, but yeah, it looks sweet.
52:43I love the short sides and I like it grown out, but I, I just, I don't know, man.
52:48I don't, there could have been a lot of ways.
52:51It's a young man's world, Seth. And, uh, I mean, I'm no longer a young man and you, you are, like we
52:57said, going towards a diet Coke, you're transitioning out.
53:00So it's a young man's world. You've seen it all.
53:03We don't get it anymore. So, yeah. Yeah. You've known me since I was, you know, back in the day, I was
53:09a young buck on the scene and, and now I'm getting, now he's a grizzled old veteran.
53:14So yes, sir. Yes, sir. Enter in the prime of my career.
53:18I'd say, here's a, another question from our friend, uh, Axel saying, what round would you be willing to draft Marvin Harrison and redraft?
53:24Or is Michael Wilson, the actual answer for me, Bogman?
53:27Like, I feel like it's got to come now or it's never coming from Marv, right?
53:32I'm 62 overall. So I think that's a fifth round selection is where I have him like late fifth is kind of where I'm willing to go.
53:40It's not a sexy pick, but I rather have someone like Marv over players who have a little bit of an injury risk like Christian Watson over players.
53:48Like I haven't seen the full form yet, such as Luther burden.
53:51Like that's kind of the range I'm in with Marv, but I'm willing to take him above those players.
53:57What about you? Are you in out on Marv right price, right time for you type of situation?
54:02I'm slightly ahead of ECR. ECR has got him at 31 and a half PPR.
54:06I haven't met 29, but I mean, by the way, don't let him clip you on saying that this is it for
54:12Marv because I got killed on the internet for that, uh, on a dynasty take earlier this year.
54:18People missed the fact that I had said, I think he breaks out this year, but if he doesn't, I think we
54:24need to be done with Marvin Harrison because we're just going to make another excuse for him next year.
54:29Next year, if he doesn't break out this year, we're going to say, Oh, well now they're going to be drafting a
54:36quarterback and then Marvin Harrison is going to be better.
54:38Maybe like, is that within the realm of possibility?
54:41Absolutely. But, uh, it also could not be, but I do expect him to have a much better season and all the
54:47reports from Arizona, even with the goofy clips of like, Oh, look at Marv is dropping passes and Michael Wilson's catching them.
54:54Did you see the passes that were thrown to Marv?
54:57They were above his head. Off to the side and everything was hitting Wilson between the numbers.
55:01Right? Uh, so I'm not reacting to one camp clip of a bad day for Marv when he got bad balls thrown to him.
55:08So I do think that, uh, he is breaking out.
55:11I am at 29 in the overall. I have him 28 in positional.
55:15Okay. So I'm right there with you. I have him 65th.
55:18And then let me see where he is on the overall in a one quarterback league on ECR.
55:23As soon as it comes up, my computer's going slow.
55:26He's at 71. So I'm slightly higher in the overall, slightly higher.
55:30Okay. So I just want it so we can say Maserati Marv again, get a little Gus Johnson action there.
55:35I don't have the best Gus impression, but I need a back.
55:39It's been too long. Especially, especially with all the talking you've been doing your, your voice fluttering.
55:44Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. You can, you can't hit those high Gus Johnson notes.
55:48So I think Gus must just like not talk for the entire week leading up to Saturday.
55:53Right? Like he's like his wife's like asking him a question and he's like sign languaging her or like writing it down on a pencil.
56:00I think he's just got a stretchy voice, man.
56:03I think that that's it. It's just a voice that works that, that doesn't get, he doesn't, he can't ruin it by yelling that much, I guess.
56:10Yeah. It's probably just a weird talent. You know, I, I envy it and I envy it, man, because you know, I
56:17have a face for radio, but I don't have quite the voice to go with that face for radio.
56:22So, you know, I, I need all the help I can get out here.
56:26Need all the help I can get for sure.
56:29And, uh, we got scuba checking in as well saying goats for the second time we've been calling goats Yeah, that's awesome.
56:35That's awesome. Appreciate that guys. Also Sal making false promises to the crowd saying once we hit one or 10,000 subscribers here
56:41on twitch.tv slash fancy pros, the place you need to be for all the live stream action right now for fans football
56:48season, getting the music going in the background. Seth will get the Bijon haircut.
56:52Look, I can't even grow my hair that long.
56:54So I'll pay for it. You, you know, you would have to be the, cause cause you can, you can, you cut your hair every couple of years.
57:02So you could just like cut everything off. Like you don't need it.
57:06I'm not going to cut it down to one lock.
57:09No way. Uh, I don't need the rest of it.
57:12You can donate the rest of it and then just keep it up there.
57:16How about it? No. You think that thing hurts if like he flips it and like it hits someone like when Derek
57:22Henry used to have kind of like the longer version, like I always had to think like that would kind of hurt trying to hit that.
57:30I'm sure it would. It looks like you could pull it right out too.
57:34You know what I mean? That's, that's my thing is, uh, I've, I've seen Paul Amalu catch passes and then get his
57:40hair ripped out when they tackle him. So that seems a little dicey to me.
57:44Hopefully that stuff can stay tucked up under that helmet.
57:47Also, I know this isn't a Steelers program, but Mark Caboli having Antonio Brown above Troy Paul Molle and his all time,
57:53like top 25 lists of last 25 years for Steelers players.
57:57I love you, Caboli. I love everything you do for, for the, you know, this particular part of the state.
58:02Terrible take can't do it. I mean, I think half of that is just for engagement, but it's my opinion.
58:08So, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm sure it is.
58:11I'm sure it is, but Troy, we met, we miss you, Troy.
58:14We miss you, Troy, but we got, uh, yeah.
58:17Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let's go. I want to go to Canton next year for a Ben's enshrinement too.
58:22I'm looking forward to Boggs. I know you haven't been to Canton yet.
58:26Is any chance like Ben getting inducted would be kind of your, uh, your move out there?
58:31I mean, I, I, I, I wouldn't go for a player.
58:34I would go for the hall. Right. So, uh, that was, if I was going to go for a player, I tell
58:40you what will definitely get me out there. If Heinz ward goes in, I'm going period.
58:45Okay. If Heinz goes in, I'm there. So, okay.
58:47That is a, that a full, full send full stop.
58:50Uh, I will go for sure. We need you Heinz and, uh, yeah, I have no doubt seven will be in there, but Heinz is long overdue, man.
58:58Yeah. Long overdue. Pretty full send here. Round us out saying which player stands out to you guys when it comes to
59:05the ADP of Pickens, Olave and Devonta Smith preference of one over the other.
59:09Devonta is honestly getting to the point box where he's getting a little too rich for me.
59:13I feel, I felt the same way about Olave where I'm, I'm not drafting Olave there.
59:18There's too many injury and health concerns that like you got the ceiling last year.
59:22Now you have Tyson coming in as well. I'll just take the discounted player in new Orleans.
59:27If I want to pass catcher there, hell I'll take Jawan Johnson if I need to with no taste of Hill now as well.
59:34So yeah, like I guess Pickens would be the one.
59:37I think I have Pickens at wide receiver nine in my rankings.
59:40So eight in my rankings more specifically. So like, but still it is a steep price to pay for Pickens too.
59:46So I prefer none of them, but Pickens would be the one if I had to, what about you, Boggs, gun to the head.
59:53Who do you want out of this tier? It's Pickens.
59:56I also have Pickens at nine. His ECR is 10 and look, just looking at tiers on ECR Pickens at 10 is
60:03in tier two and Olave is at 12 and Devonta is at 13, both in tier three.
60:07So with the tier break, it's definitely Pickens for me.
60:10And also full sentence saying 12 man full PPR in the middle of the fourth round.
60:15If giving the opportunity to take T Higgins or Loveland, let's say you already have two widers here and one running back.
60:21I'm probably going lovey. What about you? Yeah, I would take love them as well.
60:25It gives you a, you know, just gives you a lot of points at a premium position potentially.
60:31So yeah, I'd probably go with Loveland as well.
60:33Yeah. I mean, it's not like a huge discrepancy in my rankings where like, I don't want to say I'm like low
60:40and I'm actually have T Higgins a little bit higher, but if I already have two wide receivers and running back locked
60:46down their full send, I kind of want to get that elite tight end.
60:50So I don't hate that at all, but honestly, like I probably actually prefer a additional answer where like C give me
60:56a Mecca Buka and then I'll maybe try to take Tyler Warren on the way back, but that would be my play.
61:03But either way, I appreciate the question there. Full send.
61:05We already talked about Kenneth Walker a little bit as well.
61:09Is Stribbling a go for you now Boggs? Is he a go now that we had the Ricky Pearsall injury?
61:14No, you're not drafting him in redraft. No, Welsh.
61:17Welsh is on that and he's a Niners fan.
61:19So maybe, you know, listen to him more than me on that specific player.
61:23But no, I think if Ricky Pearsall certain, I'm just not going to draft Ricky Pearsall doesn't mean I want Stribbling now
61:30because Demarcus Robinson is a veteran that could probably beat him out in camp or split that role in camp with him.
61:36So yeah, hard pass for Stribbling on me. Okay.
61:39Excluding who were in players who were injured last year prediction for who the biggest bounce back slash improvement was and who falls well below expectations.
61:46I think as far as like a bounce back without an injury, someone like I'm looking at, we talked about Justin Jefferson.
61:52I'm kind of right in on, on Jordan Addison again, like a guy who has just been continually out producing what he
61:59should from a touchdown standpoint, maybe regression comes, but I think he's a really talented wide receiver.
62:04Who's just been overshadowed his entire career by Jay Jettas.
62:07And I think they're going to do a better job getting him involved.
62:10We all kind of know what they have in TJ Hawkinson.
62:13They bring in Jawan Jennings. So they're not going to be, you know, I don't think force feeding him and they really don't have a running back bogs.
62:21Like that's the big thing in Minnesota. Like I'm not running out there for my guy, Claiborne running there.
62:27That would be fun. I don't know, man. He's got, you know, he fits for that offense.
62:32I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. But all roads to me in Minnesota, like point towards Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, those would be
62:38my, my, my two big bounce backs, non-injury related.
62:41What about you? Do you have a bounce back?
62:43DJ more round out the show. Yeah. Okay. DJ more Buffalo.
62:46I think being the number one there is just going to be so much better for him and you know, uh, getting
62:53into camp, it seemed like him and Josh Allen really had a nice connection.
62:57So him and then somebody that I don't think performs as well.
63:00I'm kind of out on all Jacksonville wide receivers.
63:03Just cause I can't really pin this one down.
63:05So I think there's a lot of Parker Washington hype right now.
63:09I'm just not there. Uh, I like him as a player.
63:12He feels safe. Jacoby feels safe. If I'm going to take one, to be honest, Parker, my other higher upside Washington did.
63:18They're still going to have Washington, uh, return punts, which is not something you typically ask one of your premier players to do.
63:25And they said, BTJ is your wide receiver in 13, which they're clearly going to run more because they drafted two tight ends and extended Brenton strange.
63:33So I just like it's volume. That's it. It's not about anything.
63:36It's my same issue with Walker, right? Is like, I don't think he survives the volume for Washington.
63:41It's like, don't think he gets the volume. So those are, those are my can, my two concerns there.
63:47But, uh, yeah, I like DJ more on a bounce back, like a non-injury bounce back to have a much better year.
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