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0:40It's Thursday, July 30th. NFL training camp news is certainly heating up and draft rankings are being adjusted as we speak.
0:46It's a beautiful time to be alive and it's a beautiful time for another Q&A coming your way right here on twitch.tv slash fantasypros.
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0:59I'm your host, Seth Wilcock, joined by my partner in crime, Scott Big Time Bogman.
1:03Boggs, there's something about this time of year, man, where the boys of summer, they roll into campuses across the country and
1:10hit the practice field for the first time together in front of both the fans and the media that is certainly special.
1:16And I can remember a ton of years growing up out here in Western Pennsylvania, traveling down to St.
1:22Vincent College to see Steelers training camp live in action.
1:24Obviously, you are a Lurs fan, but you grew up in the South.
1:28So have you ever been to NFL training camp before?
1:31I've been to a couple Cardinals training camps for like a day, but I was pretty young when I did that.
1:37It's pretty hot out in Arizona. You don't want to do that stuff.
1:41That was before they were doing the camps, you know, in the stadium because it's too hot.
1:46So it's not a fun thing in Arizona. My thing in terms of like preseason stuff would have been spring training in
1:52Arizona because that happens in March when it's nice and cool.
1:55I say cool, but it's, you know, 75 to 80, but it's perfect in March in Arizona, not so much in July and August.
2:02So not a big fan of going to the camps, but it is enjoyable in places that aren't Arizona or Texas, I'm sure.
2:09Yeah, it certainly is. That, you know, that 70 degree, 80 degree weather right now, a little bit of a breeze is
2:15kind of what we have rolling through here in Pennsylvania right now.
2:18So I have the vibes to go down there to St.
2:21Vincent. Maybe I'll stop down in the next couple of weeks.
2:25I got a honeymoon trip coming up next week.
2:27I don't think my every wife wants to go to training camp for their honeymoon.
2:32I'll see if we can squeeze that in there a time or two, but folks, go ahead, drop your questions below and
2:38we'll be sure to get to them over the next 50 or so minutes.
2:42And you can also make sure you check out the fans, pros YouTube channel and the audio feed for our full offerings of episodes and short form content.
2:50And Boggs, before we dive into some questions here, I did want to talk about some of the latest news around the
2:56league, including that the 49ers have some concern about Ricky Pearsall's knee issues and are quote, exploring all options when it comes to the next step.
3:04When addressing it, this is courtesy of Nick Wagner of ESPN.com.
3:07I've said it before, Boggs. I've kind of been out on Ricky Pearsall as a whole this season in my personal rankings,
3:13just because look, injuries are a real thing. And at the same time, you have other guys coming into this offense, struggling.
3:19You also have Christian Kirk and of course, Mike Evans, George Kittle coming back healthy.
3:24Another year of Christian McCaffrey. I'm down at wide receiver 57.
3:27That's where I've been on him. Do you think you'll be in that same vicinity following this news out of 49ers camp?
3:33Yeah. You know, my initial ranking on him, I believe was 42.
3:37Uh, okay. I had, I had him like, you know, after a couple upside swings in Makai Lemon and Concepcion and, uh,
3:43Brian Thomas, but I did have him ahead of like Parker Washington and Josh Downs and Stefan Diggs.
3:48I think with this injury, I'm probably going to move him down to 53.
3:52That would be below Quentin Johnson, Jaden Higgins, Michael Wilson, and Josh Downs for me.
3:56So yeah, probably in that range, this sucks, man.
3:59And it's really starting to the injuries and, and specifically this continued knee injury are starting to pile up for our guy, Ricky.
4:06And it seems like he might be one of those injury prone players and a guy that has had injuries.
4:11So it might just be the knee. It might just need to be drained and he'll be back next week and whatever.
4:18It doesn't seem like that though. It seems like it's going to be worse than that and be an extended absence again for Ricky.
4:25And it really hurts this Niners offense. Well, and it's one of the main reasons that is so hard to get invested
4:31with the 49ers from a futures betting standpoint this year.
4:34I've seen a couple of sharp betters bet the season win total under, I think it's flowing around 10 and a half,
4:4011 and a half, depending where you get it.
4:43I think that might still be in play. Like I like this 49ers team, but between this, the Kyle Shanahan incident over
4:49the off season as well, that we're just kind of finding out about this week from newsbreakers.
4:54It's a little bit concerning, right? And you know, we're hoping that people like Christian McCaffrey, like Mike Evans, like George Kittle,
5:00these veterans that are aging a bit can hold up on both the offense and on the defensive side.
5:06Like you have Nick Bosa coming back. You have Fred Warner coming back, but not great vibes.
5:11Not what you want to see from an injury plagued organization in the injury plagued player specifically there in Ricky Pierce.
5:17So I'll keep dropping your questions, guys. We're going to get to them in just a second, but I did want to
5:23also talk about Malik neighbors here, Boggs with you.
5:25We had giants GM, Joe Shane. He said Wednesday that neighbors ACL with that ACL will participate in individual drills during the
5:32early stages of the training camp that comes from Jordan Ray nan of ESPN.
5:36I've again, I think I've been a little bit ahead of consensus here, Boggs.
5:40I didn't think that we might see neighbors week one and that he would be this ready to go early in training
5:46camp, especially after we talked to our injury expert here at fantasy pros, Dr.
5:50Deepak Chona on an episode a couple of weeks ago.
5:53However, I still have him as a second round pick.
5:56I still have him wide receiver seven overall in my rankings.
5:59Where are you going to be at on neighbors?
6:02Are you moving him up after these positive reports coming out of giants camp, which happening in West Virginia this year?
6:08Yeah. I really don't like the fact that we've had two crazy different reports, right?
6:12The first one was a might miss the first month of the season.
6:16We'll see. And the next one is, Hey, you might be back at practice next week.
6:20I just, I saw him kind of, I'm a little in between.
6:24I have him at 13 right now. So that would make it wide receiver, wide receiver 13.
6:29So that would make him, I believe that's 28th in my, uh, overall.
6:32So a early third round pick. Yeah. I just can't get him past like AJ Brown and Ted and Pickens yet.
6:38Right? Like if he was to practice in full and even play in a preseason, then yes, I put him at the
6:45head of this tier, which would be wide receiver seven for me, where I have Drake Lennon, Nico Collins, George Pickens in that area.
6:52So I did, I did move him after we thought he was going to move, you know, miss a month.
6:57I did move him down to 22. Now I've moved him up to 13 and I will continue to climb him.
7:03The more positive news that we get here. So, you know, fully healthy.
7:07I would seven is where I would have him right where you have them.
7:11I just don't know if we're quite there yet.
7:14So weird reports. I know the reports out of camp are much better than the ones that, that are good too.
7:20I got eyes on that video. He looked for like, maybe not a hundred percent, but dang near 90%.
7:25It seems like he's been working. Let's see if he doesn't get any swelling like Ricky Pearsall did after some positive reports about him.
7:32So, you know, uh, I just, I can't, I don't want to have him as a wide receiver one with some questions yet.
7:39So 13 is where I have him right now.
7:41Okay. Uh, string cheese man saying, how are people so high on Justin Jefferson just because Kyler came over?
7:47Uh, he was horrible for the Cardinals. I tend to agree Boggs that, you know, I'm not really adjusting my rankings based
7:53on the Kyler Murray situation because I still, you know, unlike a lot of people, I think this is a legitimate quarterback
7:59battle because the general manager there in, in Minnesota, they did not want to lose their job.
8:04Right. Because I mean, I mean, that's what's on the line.
8:07No, no, no. I understand what you're saying, but, but it is, it's not a competition.
8:12Kyler is the quarterback by a lot. Uh, it's, I don't think, and I've said this on the dynasty show and I
8:18agree with your point for dynasty leagues. I don't think Kyler Murray, this is actually a clip that just came out today on, on, uh, Twitter.
8:26I don't know that Kyler is the long-term solution Minnesota, and they're definitely not done with JJ McCarthy, but I think for
8:32this season, it's definitely going to be Kyler. And I think when you look back at how horrible the quarterback play was, right?
8:39How ridiculously bad the quarterback play was in Minnesota last year, that's why it's like, okay, you have a legitimate NFL quarterback.
8:45Now when last season you had a rookie that wasn't ready, uh, Max Brosmer is not an NFL level quarterback and the
8:51corpse literal corpse of Carson Wentz, that dude was put through the ringer last season, dude.
8:56He was playing well below a hundred percent. So the quarterback play was so horrific last year.
9:01Kevin O'Connell has a great history of bringing these quarterbacks back to life after they've been bad.
9:06How bad was Sam Darnold before he got to Minnesota?
9:08Right. And then he went and won a Superbowl.
9:11So this is kind of the career arc for KOC.
9:14People believe in KOC, I think more than Kyler.
9:17And I think that's why you're seeing the Justin Jefferson resurgence there.
9:20So that, that is, I think that is the answer to your question.
9:24String cheese is that people are more buying KOC fixing quarterbacks and they are Kyler Murray coming in and fixing the entire situation.
9:30When it's also just a belief in this player, right?
9:33I mean, how many times have you well show Rico and the gang over on the baseball side this year when these
9:39players got off to slow starts, like the Fernando Tatis juniors, you're like, buy them, buy them, buy them.
9:45And like, it's the same type of situation. I just can't fade Justin Jefferson, who was a wide receiver one for fantasy
9:51as a rookie with again, Kirk cousins, but you know, it's not like Kirk cousins ever been a world beater.
9:57Right. So for me, I think it's just believing in the talents, believing in the system, it's believing in the head coach.
10:03And you know, I still believe in JJ more than I think most people do, but either way, whether it's Kyler or JJ, this is his second year.
10:11That was pretty much his rookie year last year.
10:14He didn't get to play there as a true rookie.
10:17And he played in a Michigan offense that never allowed him to really, you know, sit back and chuck it when he was there with the Wolverine.
10:25So appreciate the question there, string cheese. We're going to get some more questions, but first I did want to remind everyone
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11:39All right, here's, we got another question coming in from Clayton.
11:42Who are your top five league winners in a 10 man PPR league?
11:46Boggs, give me three of your favorite league winners, rapid fire, and I'll give, uh, to my own to Clayton league winners.
11:52Okay. I guess I really like the value of Jadarian price at running back.
11:56Uh, I, you know, I we're getting positive reports on everybody.
12:00They can't all be great. I do not believe Charbonnet is going to be ready for week one.
12:05I think that report or early in the season, I think it's all absurd.
12:09I think it's Halloween at earliest for sure. I've also been the guy on Charbonnet early as well.
12:14You can be the guy on all the hurt guys.
12:17I'm never going to be. Uh, so I think Jadarian price is a first round pick.
12:21We don't know what his ceiling is. We honestly don't because he was behind Jeremiah love in college.
12:27Right. And Jeremiah love was a top five pick.
12:29So Jadarian price, I think gets that job. He is a league winner for me.
12:33Um, let me see, like a good value wide receiver that you want to say I'm all in on Zay flowers this year.
12:40I think that this year is going to be more vertical in a new offense for the Ravens.
12:45I understand that he's not getting a lot of touchdowns, but he had 1200 yards last year.
12:50He's wide receiver seven in half PPR and full PPR.
12:53So there's a lot of room for growth in a more vertical system.
12:57And if you wait on tight end, I prefer to get a top three or four tight end.
13:02I want one of ours, McBride, Loveland craft Warren.
13:04Like I want one of that group. But if you wait, I really like Isaiah likely because he gets away from Mark Andrews.
13:11I also like Mark Andrews because he gets away from Isaiah likely.
13:14I think they're both going to be better this year.
13:17Right. But I do think that if you're waiting and you want a value pick, Isaiah likely is a guy that I
13:24really am going to have in a lot of leagues this year.
13:27Two more for you, Clayton. I love cam scadaboo at his current cost as well.
13:31I have him as a top 18 running back.
13:34And this is a guy bogs. A lot of people said coming out, he can't catch the ball.
13:39He can't, he's not fast enough. Well, did you ever watch what he did at Arizona state?
13:44Wasn't me the same. Yeah. Oh, I know brother.
13:47I know you're out there taking bullets for drafting this guy in the first round of dynasty rookie drafts.
13:52And dude, I'll tell you what he did everything he did at Arizona state tenfold last year with his short stint with
13:58the New York giants while healthy, he's back doing backflips.
14:01He's back giving the Ric Flair woos as John Harbaugh is giving press conferences.
14:05This is a guy they want to run this team around.
14:08They want to be a run heavy offense. Greg Roman.
14:11Don't forget. He might not be the offensive coordinator, but he is on that coaching staff up there in East Rutherford.
14:17And they're going to pound the ball with cam scadaboo.
14:20And he's also giving you that touchdown and receiving upside.
14:23And the other player that I think is just going a little bit undervalued right now, a Mecca book a dude.
14:29Yeah, this is a guy who he was a wide receiver one, the hottest thing on the planet for the first month of the season.
14:36He ends up getting injured with that hamstring injury, I believe.
14:39And we also saw Baker Mayfield get injured as well.
14:42Baker Mayfield is going to go scorched earth right now.
14:45He's betting on himself based on the contract that the Buccaneers offered him.
14:49He did not take that. So I think he's going to be ready to grip it and rip it.
14:54I think a Mecca book is going to take that step as a wide receiver one this year as well with Mike Evans out of town.
15:02I'm expecting big things from both those guys. So there's a couple of league winners for you.
15:07Clayton, we also have a couple of league winner episodes up there on the YouTube from Pat Fitz, Tara, everyone here at
15:13fantasy pros as well, that you can check out all their league winners.
15:17And then we also have full send coming in saying, sup boys in mock drafts at the end of the one, two turn.
15:23I find myself wanting to take two running backs.
15:26Can this be a reach? I like Barkley and James cook box.
15:29I think this is an amazing question because right now in my home league, I pulled the 12 overall pick in my, uh, in our, in our lottery.
15:37We did that at my wedding. Also wife was not a huge fan of us taking over the PA system for about
15:4415 minutes while we figure that out. But Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do for the, for the, for the boys back home.
15:51And I'm on the one, two turn right now.
15:53I have offers to move up to the eight slot.
15:56I have offers to move up to the four slot.
15:59I kind of like hanging around 12, especially when I get Malik neighbors potentially in that, like my ideal world would be
16:05go running back, running back, get myself, no Marion Hampton and James cook, say, quant someone in that range, and then come
16:12back and get me Malik neighbors, a Tet or an Emeka Buka as my wide receiver one and two.
16:17It is kind of crazy though, to do that in a way, because you could get sniped a lot there in the third round with receivers.
16:25So is this a, is this a reach type of a strategy?
16:28If you go RB RB at that one, two turn, or could it be advantageous to lock up some of these workhorse running backs?
16:35Yeah. I don't think it, I don't think it really hamstrings you.
16:38I think the one thing that it does, and it really depends on if you have two or three wide receivers nearly right?
16:45Like yeah, if you have three wide receivers, then I think what it does is it makes your next picks a little
16:51conditional because when you have three wide outs in a, I guess, did he say this is a 10 man or is
16:58this a, we didn't get the amount? I'm just assuming 12 team.
17:01I will assume 12 too. So it's a two wide receiver league.
17:05Okay. Way more viable in a two wide receiver league, right?
17:08Because the thing with wide receivers in fantasy now is there's so much depth that it's almost an arms race, right?
17:14Like you need to keep up with the rest of your league at wide receiver.
17:18So if you do take two running backs there, one of those next picks has to be a wide out.
17:24So if not, if not both, probably both, but one of them has to be.
17:28And if it's in a three wide receiver, they definitely both need to be a wide receiver.
17:33So it kind of cuts you off from any good deals at wide receiver or a tight end or QB in that
17:39area to me, because you don't want to fall behind, uh, in weaponizing those wide receivers, right?
17:44You don't want to be the guy that, you know, the, the, our draft evaluator says that you're 12th at wide receiver
17:51at the end, because you went early on your RB.
17:53So it's, it's more than viable for sure. Uh, it can work, but it does make your third and fourth round a
18:00little more conditional to get those wide receivers to stay in pace with everybody else in your league.
18:05Yeah. I think if you're going to go running back, running back, you definitely can't double dip on the onesie positions in the elite tiers.
18:12Right. And I think you honestly, like, I don't mind then third, fourth, fifth, sixth round, three of those four now need to be a wide receiver.
18:20I mean, you do put yourself a little bit in that hamstrung position that you mentioned Boggs.
18:25It has to be a little bit conditional rather than playing just BPA like we'd like to do, but I'm not going
18:31to, I'm not going to be the guy who is going out here and saying, don't draft elite running backs.
18:37Don't get that on production early in drafts because market, you know, market a bunch, see what you like, see what you hate.
18:43And you know, cause I've done that. I've gone in with the, I'm just going to pivot when everybody else is going,
18:50I'm going to take two RBs and see what this looks like.
18:53And I mock and mock and mock, and it looks like garbage every single time.
18:57It's like, Oh, you know what? I'm going to throw this strategy away.
19:01I'm going to take an RB and a wide receiver at the top, see what it looks like coming back.
19:07And usually that has been better for me, but I think this year is a good year to do that strategy specifically
19:13because I really like the top of RB. And full send another great way you can practice that mock drafting is using the fancy pros draft Intel tool.
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20:16And, uh, speaking of the man himself, W Collins checking in with us as well.
20:21What's up W saying? Uh, Hey pros, I'm in a 12 team, half PPR two wide receiver, two running back, one tight end and a flex league.
20:28What is the best strategy this year? Draft position is random bugs for me.
20:32It's like, I really want, I think I'm like more on punching quarterback than ever before.
20:37Like I've always been kind of of that mindset.
20:40If Jalen hurts or Jackson door, I think fall to me in the sixth, seventh round, I might consider it.
20:45But for me, like I'm really playing best player available for the most part.
20:49I'm not going into one specific strategy, especially if my pick is randomized, but late round quarterback, give me a Jared golf or Patrick Mahomes.
20:57Give me a Malik Willis in the last round.
20:59Like I think that's a very viable strategy of all of them this season.
21:03What about you? Is there one in a traditional redraft that you are more inclined to do?
21:08I think with two wide receivers, I'm more likely to take a tight end pretty high.
21:13Right. So, uh, you know, with two wide outs, like I said, there's a lot of depth to wide receivers.
21:18So I'm more willing to skip that second one.
21:21Right. You have to have the first one for sure, because sure.
21:24You have to keep pace, like we just mentioned, uh, with the other question there.
21:29So, uh, I think, you know, getting an elite tight end is big for me this year.
21:34If I can, it's not a live or die strategy.
21:36It's not, it's like, if I'm sitting in the middle of the second round of Brock Bowers falls to that spot, I'm
21:43taking him every time taking him at the end, like around 13 or 14, I think is the beginning of that second round.
21:49I think that's a little pricey still tree McBride falling into the third.
21:53I'm taking him there. Like one of these tight ends falls to me in an advantageous spot.
21:58I'm willing to take them. I think that's kind of what it is.
22:02But in terms of specific strategies, like I definitely am taking running back, running back.
22:06No, typically I like to take an RB and a wide receiver pretty much, you know, one or the other in every
22:12single one of my first two rounds. I'm willing to skip the wide receiver in the second round.
22:17If Brock Bowers falls to me at a deal in the third of trade McBride falls to me at that point.
22:23And like you said, I'm more, more than willing to punt quarterback this year.
22:28I think there are so many good ones, so much upside.
22:31I mean, would you like to have Josh Allen or Lamar?
22:34Of course, but give me the upside with T law.
22:37Give me the upside with Caleb Williams, right? Dak Prescott at 10 is a great deal in one quarterback league.
22:42So there are many, many quarterbacks to take. So that is kind of, I would rather reach for the tight end if I'm getting one premium position.
22:50I completely agree on that with you. And I'm Esther Grimm saying, sadly, I missed the mock draft coming up, but I
22:56hope you all have a good draft. Hey, we're gonna have so many fun mock drafts coming throughout the season.
23:02We're also gonna be doing them strictly in our discord community as well.
23:06In addition to the live stream mock drafts that we're doing with you as well.
23:10So master Grimm, everyone else who didn't get into any of our mock drafts this week, we still have a ton coming your way.
23:17Mock draft Monday coming up very, very soon as August approaches there in the discord with some of our, uh, and your favorite pros as well.
23:25Metal James checking in. What's up, James? Hope you're having a great afternoon here.
23:29Thursday already. This week has flown by Boggs. I got back from the expo late Monday evening, and all of a sudden
23:35I feel like it's already a week from where I left, uh, for the expo last week.
23:40So great time out there. I appreciate everyone who came up to me and said the very kind words about our content
23:46and checking out all of our tools and Acadian spice up next here in the chat saying draft Kings, best ball pick one Oh two.
23:53I started off B. John London McBride through three picks thoughts.
23:56Love it. I'd give it a B plus. Like I am actually like the Falcons are not the team I really want to stack on.
24:04Like I know we're in best ball and we need to don't even start with this.
24:08They're their quarterback right now. I mean, it's an undrafted free agent.
24:12It's one, one of our guys that Thor loves.
24:14I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but I just, I don't know, man.
24:19That's the team I'm a little bit worried about.
24:22And like, even like B. John, like how far, and I guess let's parlay this to Boggs with another question.
24:28How long do B. John and Gibbs have to sit out for us to start getting concerned, like with the wide receivers
24:34over the past few seasons that if you didn't fade them like Terry McLaurin, if you didn't fade them like Brandon Iuke
24:40the year before that, they got you into trouble drafting at a premium price.
24:44I mean, uh, not now. Uh, I don't, I don't care about anything going to three weeks.
24:49Yeah. I it's not going to be that long though.
24:52Like you just, these guys are going to take a lot of hits for the season.
24:57So I really don't care if they don't work until, you know, uh, the middle of August, honestly.
25:02So it it's, it B. John and Gibbs are up there.
25:05I love B. John. Uh, I think McBride in the third, we just got talking about that.
25:10I love that in a best ball. So yeah, I mean, I don't like, like you said, getting involved with two Falcons
25:16here might be a little risky, but I think you're, I think you're going to be fine.
25:21Right. Uh, I think Tua is going to be okay.
25:24It's Cooper rush is who you're thinking of, I believe, or is it Jack strand, Jack strand.
25:29I believe it was Minnesota Moorhead is where he was at.
25:32Uh, Thor brought him up to, uh, up to me when we were stranded in an airport trying to get to the
25:38senior bowl this year, we had a long conversation about strand.
25:42He came on and touted him on the, uh, fancy pros NFL draft show with Derek and myself as well.
25:47So, uh, Jack strand, Thor called it all the way back when man.
25:51Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not, I'm not worried about it.
25:54I, the thing that worries me more about B.
25:56John is the hair this year. I don't really like it.
26:00So I don't know. I don't think I've seen the hair.
26:03I'll send you, uh, I'll, I'll send you a thing when I see it, but it is, it does look weird this year.
26:09So Sal, if you're not working in the back end right now, not, not busy, can we get a full screen of, uh, the, the B.
26:17John with the new hair look? I have not seen this.
26:20I'm curious to see how this plays out. It can't be worse than some of the hairstyles we've seen over the past few years, man.
26:27Like Justin Herbert was going through one, a cut there for a minute, long to short Joe Burrow.
26:32Wait till you see it. Wait till you see it.
26:35The backstreet boy look a year ago too. Okay.
26:38Yeah. So I was going to pull that up for us.
26:41We'll bring that up in a second there. I, I don't know.
26:44I can't imagine it's that bad. Uh, while he does that, let's get to Bova Knight's question and pros.
26:50Please help me pick three keepers in a 12 man super flex PPR league, three wide receiver spots where I pick 12th.
26:56I love these keeper questions guys, especially when they actually, you know, account for the pick.
27:01So keep them coming. James cook for a fourth.
27:03Ooh, baby. Ted O'errm McMillan for a fifth Monty for an eighth cam word for a ninth, uh, Harold fan junior for
27:10a 10th Ramond Ray for a 14th. I mean, I think you got to cook, keep cooking the fourth, right?
27:15Can we say that one's consensus? And the fifth, 10 and the fifth, I would then honestly, like, I mean, even cam
27:22ward for ninth and super flex is fine. I think it's, it's him or, or fan and junior for me.
27:27I think it's probably warden and super flex just to do the QB math there.
27:32But fan and in the 10th is also great.
27:34If there, if you do think there's going to be a lot of quarterbacks going back in.
27:39So it's one of those two for sure. I think in most cases, I'm going to keep cam ward just because the
27:46deal in the ninth and quarterbacks are just hard to come by in a 12 team super flex.
27:51So that's probably my keeper, but it's definitely cook and Ted and then one of ward or fan.
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29:30I'm 10th in a 10 man league. I'm thinking RBRB on the 10 11 turn.
29:34Okay. Idea bad idea. Also, if you had CMC cook, chase Brown, Hampton, gente H and which two will you pick?
29:40We were kind of talked about the strategy of this bog.
29:43So out of those running backs, I do have CMC ranked the highest and I believe right behind him.
29:49I do have James cook as well, but I actually I'm I lied.
29:53Uh, Oh, Marion Hampton is one spot above James cook for me.
29:56So, but at that price, CMC and cook for me.
29:59Okay. Pretty easy. Okay. Yeah. And I, I, I have Hampton and cook in the same tier, but I do have them decently far apart.
30:06So it, I, where do you have H and ranked compared to those players?
30:10Six. I'm right. Okay. Right behind cook. So, okay.
30:13Yeah. Don't hate that, that idea either, but like, I will say if Justin Jefferson or CD lamb fall to you there,
30:19you really need to have like elite positions, uh, players.
30:22And so I think I'm less inclined to go RBRB and a 10 man league.
30:26And I would consider, Hey, give me a CMC or a cook.
30:30And then can I have a Justin Jefferson or a CD?
30:33Cause I would think, well, you know, two of those four players would be available.
30:37So just something to keep in mind there. Let's go ahead.
30:40And we got one here from Dom, the goat, the absolute goat here asking who do we want for week one T
30:47Higgins or a Mecca, a Buka same game, same time, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay.
30:50We're going down to the city with the skyline chilly there.
30:531 PM on Fox. So Boggs, do you want to attack this bangle secondary that has looked somewhat improved so far in training camp?
31:00They're getting rowdy yesterday. Jamar chase getting some scraps with some of the newer secondary members out there, or do you want
31:07a Mecca Buka, the presumptive wide receiver one against them?
31:10Or do you want T Higgins the other way around going against Tampa Bay and what's kind of a younger secondary there down in South Florida?
31:17Yeah, it's probably T in this situation just because Tampa Bay has lost a decent amount.
31:22Obviously Jamel Dean is gone. It's Zion McCollum and Ben Morrison at corner now.
31:26So T is more experienced. Obviously Joe Burrow healthy in week one is going to be huge.
31:31I'm probably leaning slightly towards T, but I mean, it is a coin flip because the bangles defense still sucks and it's getting hurt right now.
31:38So yeah, I'm probably going T right now, but luckily you don't have to decide this anywhere, anywhere soon.
31:43So yeah, I'd actually be a Buka just because like T Higgins had some real stinkers in week one.
31:49You know what I mean? I think last year he had a donut in week one.
31:53Like he was hurting some teams. So like Bengals traditionally slow starters, I know they look ready to go this season, but I don't know.
32:01I don't know. I think I'd go with Buka there, but like Boggs had plenty of time there Dom to get the
32:07rest of the fancy pros analyst opinion. And here's one for Hale Doom 86 little Heinz Ward action.
32:12They're saying draft drafting 12, 12 team PPR, two running backs, two wide receivers, two flex thoughts on picking RBRV again with the 12th and 13th.
32:20A lot of people just want confirmation on the strategy.
32:22We're, we're giving it right. Like, but again, uh, in a 12 team, it makes your third and fourth round picks conditional probably to both be wide receivers.
32:31So you're almost at the behest of what falls back to you.
32:34If a bunch of wide receivers go, you're still taking wide receivers.
32:37So I think running back wide receiver is probably better, but again, like we said before, mock it a bunch of times,
32:44go use our tools, mock your league, put in all of the correct settings and see what falls to you and do
32:50it, do a different strategy each time and do the same strategy a bunch of times as well and see which one
32:56you really like at the end of the day.
32:59They're not all going to draft exactly like that, but it's not going to fall.
33:03No draft falls exactly the same way, but you can at least know kind of the middling.
33:08If you're doing the same strategy four to five times in each of them, you'll know around about what you're going to get.
33:15Yeah. Shout to some of our other listeners checking in the regulars.
33:18We got Van Rod who's been popping around. Thank you so much, Van Rod.
33:22I'm Prezzy saying, hello, my goats. What up, Prezzy?
33:25I don't get called a goat enough, Boggs. I don't get called, I don't get those kind compliments outside of the fantasy pro street.
33:32So thank you so much for that. Uh, my friend at Prezzy, you're our goat.
33:36If that means anything to you, we're going to get some more questions here as well, but the Bichon picture, we're ready.
33:42We're ready. Yep. Sal, go ahead and bring up, I want to see a live first reaction.
33:47Seth Wilcock reacting to the Bichon Robson new haircut salad.
33:50Let's see what we're, uh, what working with out here in hot Lanta.
33:54Oh, that can't be real. I told you that can't be, I mean, he really like he's going for the Will Smith genie look for sure.
34:01And yeah, I'm a fan of Aladdin. I, you know, I even liked the live action Aladdin too.
34:06I think it's one of the better Disney live action remakes.
34:10What are you giving that on a scale of like one to 10?
34:13I'm probably going to one and a half. I'll just say that.
34:17Right. Like it looks weird. Look, express yourself any way you want.
34:20I just think I do the left is so much better.
34:23Like the old hairstyle to me. Oh, it's so much better.
34:26So if you were going out to like, if, if Bichon was just like one of my boys and we're going out
34:33to a bar, like, I think I'd be like secondhand embarrassed, honestly.
34:36You know what I mean? Like, you know, sometimes you go out with your boys, like, what are you wearing?
34:42Or like, what are you doing? And then it's like, that's just Bichon being Bichon.
34:46I guess though, huh? Around my buddies, you'd have to be worried.
34:50No one has the clippers ready to go. You know what I mean?
34:53Like that. Yeah. Oh yeah. That, that, that thing is not living very long around my friends.
34:58If I'm rocking it, I can tell you that much.
35:01My, uh, my brother's best friend, the morning of my wedding calls me and says, one of my groomsmen's a barber.
35:07He says, Hey, can I get a haircut from, uh, from Noah?
35:11Your, your, your buddy, who's the barber said more to my wedding way to wait, but his hair, he let it go for so long.
35:18And it wasn't like the nice luscious hair that you had.
35:21It was kind of scrungy and kind of looked a little rat taily.
35:25So like we got them cleaned up, but yeah, I agree.
35:28I agree. The boys got to have the hair on point right now or just throw a hat on either one of the two under a hat.
35:36I could, I was at the point where I was, my hats are all now stretched in the last like year.
35:42I could not wear any of them. It just give me a headache, man.
35:46It's just too much pressure in there. I'm sure.
35:48I'm sure. Here's one from a coaster fam saying, uh, I'm a beginner.
35:52Can you give me advice? First year doing fancy easiest thing I can say a couple of different things.
35:57Go to fancy pros.com. Make sure you're using all of our tools.
36:01We have the fancy pros draft assistant, which would actually walk alongside you during your draft is super valuable for you.
36:07Um, you can also check out the ECR rankings and tiers.
36:10You can create custom cheat sheets. Like if you're like, Hey, I don't really trust this Bogman guy.
36:15I don't want his rankings. I just may want Derek Brown or Andrew Erickson, or maybe this nice looking goaded Seth Wolcott kid.
36:22You can filter out those with your cheat sheets.
36:24Again, use draft Intel, try to get some data on your league if they've drafted in the past, even if you haven't
36:31been a part of that and also join the fans, pros discord community, which I guess I can plug that right now as well.
36:38Fancy pros.com slash chat. You can chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs actually wind up on our podcast
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37:01Yeah. Great way to make sure you are getting invested with more analysis, more advice, more Q and a's over there.
37:07Bogs. Come hang with us for sure. Just to add on, onto coasters question here, I would say, you know, no, every
37:13single strategy of, or every single rule of your league.
37:16Are we standard? Are we half? Are we getting six points per passing touchdown?
37:20What are the roster limits? Do I have two wide receivers or three?
37:24Am I a super flex? Am I tight in premium?
37:27Know all of this stuff? Know your, uh, waiver transactions.
37:30Is it from a fab? Is it just a rolling list?
37:33How does that work for your league? Know all that stuff before going in.
37:37That's not hard. It takes 10 minutes to read that on your, your league page and really understand it.
37:42And then mock, like Seth said, uh, use the tools, mock a lot, uh, get some practice drafts in there just to
37:49see where guys are going, see which guys maybe are going to get reached on a little bit.
37:54Your league's always going to be different from what you get, but this will help you a lot when you get there.
38:00Don't know. Oh damn. I got to really like in the fifth went in the fourth.
38:05What do I need to pivot to here in the fifth?
38:08You know what I mean? So I just think practice makes perfect in pretty much everything.
38:13So do some mock drafts, know your league and have a strategy to go in.
38:17That's the best advice we can give you. Yep.
38:20It certainly is a coaster fam. Good luck. And like, I would just say, like, enjoy it, right?
38:25Because each, each season is a ride. You don't have to be so laser focused.
38:29The first F in fantasy is for fun as far as I'm concerned.
38:33So, you know, a lot of people, uh, play very seriously for money, but what brought us all here?
38:38Everything fun brought us to fantasy football. So take it seriously, but don't stress out about it.
38:43Take some of the players that you like, but know that, you know, you can't take every player on your favorite team.
38:49That's not going to work. Right. So try to diversify that portfolio as far as players go, but you know, yeah, enjoy it and have fun.
38:57Don't stress out about it. Yep. Be willing to take some risks, be willing to be proven wrong and be willing to adjust your opinion.
39:04Those are the biggest things we learn lessons every single year, playing fantasy football and some that we can actually apply back to life.
39:11Yeah. I was going to say, Seth, given life advice out here, not fantasy advice.
39:15Absolutely. Hey, it's willing to grow. Yes. Yes. Be willing to grow, uh, some new followers, solar Coke and, uh, Clayton Williams 13 coming in as well.
39:23I don't think I really would like like a Coke can sitting out like it, like in the sun.
39:28That's kind of what I thought of when I heard solar Coke.
39:32I'm like warm Coke and not, not me. I've been starting to get on the DC train a little bit, a little diet Coke.
39:39I had one a couple weeks ago, a little Jack and diet and pretty good bogs.
39:43Pretty for, I don't know how that thing, zero calories.
39:46Middle age right here. He's discovering diet Coke right now.
39:49I gave it, I gave, I gave soda up for years because it would just make me bloated and I didn't like it.
39:56And now like all of a sudden we got some things that are like zero calories running around.
40:01I'm like, all right, I'm back in baby. Definitely.
40:03My addiction is soda. So yeah, I understand. I understand that better than cigarettes, I guess.
40:08So I guess so. I guess so. 12 man, half PPR except, uh, except drunk SIGs and, uh, and golf course SIGs do not count.
40:15So those are fine. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Yeah.
40:18I mean the rest of them, I can't, I can't speak to, but, um, max here saying 12 man, half PPR 12th or seventh pick kill me.
40:26Yeah. Uh, league historically has gone RB heavy. What strategy should I fall here for the first five rounds?
40:31Again, I think you're in the seventh pick and like, to me, Boggs, like I'm just combed BPA really.
40:36Like, especially there in the first round, like I'm not forcing.
40:40I know like sometimes when the running back or when your league goes running back heavy, like I'm not afraid to ZIG while others are zagging.
40:47Absolutely. Yeah. And I think the nice part about being in the middle is realizing that no run is going to get past you.
40:54Right. So if the RBs are going and you are getting antsy about it, no run gets past you because you're smack in the middle.
41:01Right. So I think that you're probably going to be fine here.
41:05If you want to go RB with that first pick great.
41:08But I mean, if JSN falls to you or a mantra, uh, I would be fine taking those guys and waiting on
41:14running back because running back is a little bit deeper.
41:17The top end looks real good this year. And I think people get wishy-washy on like, you know, 13 to 20, somewhere like that.
41:24But I like it, man. I like a lot of it.
41:27Uh, I think Javante is great. Josh Jacobs isn't getting suspended this season.
41:31It looks like Bucky is back and healthy. I expect a big breakout for Trayvon Henderson.
41:35Travis CTN is here. Your boy Cam. I like Jadarian price even late.
41:39So I think there's a lot like a running back.
41:42So even if your league is piling up on running back again, like we said, practice from the seven spots, see what
41:48you like and see what is absolutely not acceptable to you because you can even switch the strategy to RB heavy.
41:54So, uh, and see what it looks like. So yes, I would, I would practice some mocks and see what that looks
42:01like and, uh, build your strategy before your draft.
42:03I'm Prezi asking Seth, where do I get up hold of you in discord to ask your opinion on my roster slash draft?
42:10I really appreciate that Prezi right now. I don't have my own AMA that that's not a requirement of my job as
42:16opposed to some of these full-time analysts. Cause I'm also in the backend of things and hosting, but you can go ahead
42:22and just tag me in there, put it in the general chat, put me in any of those chats and just tag
42:29me, or you can DM me there. Um, I think my username is between underscore Seth FF.
42:34So either DM me or just, if you want everyone to join in the conversation and just, you know, continue to get
42:40feedback from other analysts, other fancy football players as well.
42:43Just drop that in there, tag me and you can get ahold of me there, Prezi, but appreciate it, man.
42:48I want to continue that conversation after this with you as well.
42:52Um, and then here is a question from, uh, let's go with like hot soda instead of solar Coke.
42:57I like hot soda as the name here and just changing the screen name on the fly, uh, in tight end premium.
43:04Who do you like most outside of Bowers and McBride?
43:07I mean, it's obviously Colston Loveland. And for me, Tyler Warren, like I do have Loveland above Warren in my rankings, but
43:13with this Alec Pierce news, like I think Tyler Warren has to continue to get moved up the rankings bog.
43:19So they're like, I have McBride and Bowers in their own tier and then Loveland and Warren in their own tier, then
43:25followed by fan and junior and Tucker craft for me.
43:28I have Browders and McBride in their own tier and then Loveland in his own tier.
43:32So I, then I have Warren craft fan and pits in the same tier.
43:36I, and I think you're right about Warren. We're not definitely offers the most upside.
43:41If you want to push them into that tier with Loveland, because he was a rookie last year, I get that.
43:47There's just been a lot of talk about Josh downs.
43:50They both play over the middle of the field.
43:52So I'm a little less enthused about Warren than I am Loveland, but it's not by a lot, man.
43:58So I think that first group of five, uh, and Tucker craft, I understand if you don't want coming off the entry,
44:04I get it, but he dude was dominant playing last year.
44:07And I really think they have a nice, uh, plan for him.
44:11So all of those guys are what I like.
44:13If I do miss out on Bowers or McBride and Titan premium.
44:17Yeah. We're both worn over craft too. It's not like, it's not a huge gap for me, but I am more in over craft, especially healthier player.
44:24Yeah. Okay. Okay. Coin flip to me. So, but, but, uh, Warren as well.
44:28Okay. And a couple more questions we got rolling in here.
44:31First one, W Collins and congrats on the wedding.
44:34Seth must've missed my invite in the mail. It was sent Collins.
44:37It was there brother. And you know, you know, I could have sworn I saw you out there boogying on the dance
44:44floor, uh, next to our boss, John and his wife.
44:47So, uh, that must must've been mistaken there, but, uh, appreciate the congratulations.
44:50It was a great day. And, uh, you know, what a fantastic summer it's been, man, been super busy, 10 year reunion
44:57wedding covering the Pocono race, fancy football expo last week, going up to Boston next week for my honeymoon.
45:02So, uh, we only get to live this like incredibly dumb life because of your guys' support.
45:07So we've really appreciate you guys tuning into streams like this, giving us questions to ask, trusting our analysis and, and trusting
45:13the entire team here at fancy pros for your fancy pros or fancy football needs.
45:18So thank you so much for that. And here's one, another from Clayton.
45:21How do you guys feel about Kenneth Walker? Uh, I have him pretty high, but feel like he's being slept on bell
45:28cow back on the chiefs could have been better.
45:30Couldn't have been a better team to go to pretty much.
45:33So Boggs, I definitely know, like as far as our internal team here at fancy pros, I am the low man on Kenneth Walker right now.
45:41I don't think you're lower than me. Okay. Well, Fitz has bumped them up quite a bit in his rankings.
45:47I've been hearing a lot of good things from D bro and Erickson over the weekend about Kenneth Walker.
45:52I think the tides are starting to shift where he is moving up overall in ECR right now.
45:57I have met at player 28 overall, right? That's kind of where I'm, I'm hanging on to him right now.
46:03We're at RB at RB and particularly I am at on Kenneth Walker.
46:07Let's pull it up here. RB RB 12. I got him at RB 15.
46:11So, okay. I listen, my thing with, with Walker here is not, it's not anything about skill watching this dude play at Michigan state.
46:18Everybody knew what was coming and he still whooped everybody.
46:21What made me love Walker so much was watching him dominate Michigan with five touchdowns, right?
46:25Everybody knows it's coming. Your quarterback is Brian Lewerke.
46:28They're not passing the ball. So Walker's getting 30 carries and he's stomping them.
46:32I mean, the dude is an incredibly explosive runner, right?
46:35But I think the thing that made it work in Seattle is that he didn't have an overabundance of touches.
46:40And I don't think that he can survive a season because he's shown us this first season coming in, he had entries, right?
46:47Last season, it really worked because Charbonnet was taking those goal line, those hard hits, the goal line and those short yard situations.
46:54And Walker wasn't really doing that. Now in the for a game, for two games, for a month, yes, this dude can
47:00touch the ball 28 times, 30 times and not have an issue, but he's had so many injuries in the NFL that
47:06I don't trust him to go much beyond his 250 touches that he maxed out.
47:10He had the most touches his rookie season. I think it was 255.
47:14It was 252 last year before the playoffs. So that's why I think the, the chiefs go out and get Emmitt Johnson,
47:21a dude that had close to 300 touches at the college level last year, right?
47:25A dude that can carry the ball because the only other guy on the roster was Brashad Smith who just converted to
47:31running back this season before he came to the NFL.
47:34He was a wide receiver at SMU, flipped to running back, still kind of learning his paces at the position.
47:40That's why you go and get an Emmitt Johnson.
47:42So to me, I think I'm taking Derek Henry ahead of him.
47:46I'm still Kyron ahead of him. I'm still Brees Hall ahead of him.
47:50And I, I have currently Jeremiah Love ahead of him.
47:52I might move Love down based on what the things that we've heard recently, but it won't be that much further.
47:58So maybe I get Walker up to 14, but I don't want Walker as an RB one as an RB two.
48:04He's fine. There's a lot of upside there. Play the upside.
48:08But as an RB one, I think you're putting your eggs into a fragile basket.
48:12So that is my opinion on Walker. It has nothing to do with skill.
48:16The skill is there. It has to do with surviving the season after getting paid and the type of workload that the
48:22chiefs might give him, I think might not be great for him.
48:26So that is my concern about Kenneth Walker. Yep.
48:28Could not have said it any better myself. A question here from better call Bob as well, saying for whatever reason, if
48:35you miss out on those top tier elite tight end, should we be targeting an elite wide receiver or running back to
48:41put in the flex to give us some type of advantage in that type of league?
48:45Yeah. I absolutely think like if you're not going to go Bowers or McBride in the third or even a Loveland or
48:52Warren in the third, fourth, I think like I'm totally on board with, you know, just continue to load up on those skill positions.
48:59Like my pivot is not Boggs to, okay, I didn't get an elite tight end.
49:03Let me go get Lamar. Let me go get Drake May.
49:06It's it's let me continue to stack up these players that I can throw my flexes where, yeah, maybe I got to
49:12throw out a dart thrown Isaiah, likely a Chigakonkwo in my tight end every week, but I'm going to have an elite
49:19flex where it's at least going to be a trade off.
49:22Yeah. And, and, uh, you know, if you're not getting that elite level tight end, I like, um, your strategy of taking
49:28Isaiah likely, and then maybe taking like a George Kittle to see if he comes back and is the same George Kittle
49:35that we know and love at the end of the season, you know, and maybe likely specifically with Malik neighbors, maybe not
49:41a hundred percent early in the season. Who is the number two in New York, right?
49:45Who is the second pass catcher? It's probably Cam Scadaboo right now.
49:49So who is it actually? It's probably going to be Isaiah likely because it's not going to be Calvin Austin.
49:55You and I know that it's not going to be, um, I guess maybe Darnell Mooney or Darius Slayton again.
50:00Juju is there. Odell is there. Who is going to be catching balls in New York for the Giants?
50:06So to me, it's Isaiah likely that is a strategy that I like.
50:10If you're waiting, you know, you grab him and Chigakonkwo see which one pans out.
50:14You grab him and Kelsey and see if Kelsey still has it.
50:17You grab him and Kittle and see if Kittle is good on the back end.
50:22I don't like Eli Stowers last round. Eli Stowers shot.
50:24I don't hate, I don't like rostering two tight ends specifically the shorter my benches, the less likely I am to do that.
50:31But if I have a deeper bench, you know, we're eight to 10 instead of five or six, five to six.
50:37Yeah. Uh, then I'm much more willing to do that type of strategy.
50:41I can, we also just like everyone can play how they want, but like, give me deeper benches.
50:46I want deeper benches. Like I'm okay with the, you know, the hot waiver wire name, not being there and that I
50:52have to play a little sharks and minnows out there on the wire every single week.
50:57Like I just want less work. I agree with that.
51:00It makes it less more important. Exactly. And it makes like, for me, I just want to be that sharp who has
51:06that guy on my bench already because I've been thinking three steps ahead.
51:10Right. And, and that's how I pride myself in my analysis, how I pride myself in my playing as well.
51:16So he's got 40 checkers over here. He's got them all vote.
51:19Seth Wilcock for commissioner 2026 deeper benches is what I will bring you deeper benches.
51:23My friends, that is what I'm putting on my card of what do you call it?
51:28What do you, what do you call your, your, your campaign slogan deeper benches?
51:32There you go. There you go. Exactly. Yes. My, uh, my, my book of things that I probably will not get done,
51:38but I promise the, the people I will. So if you're a politician, it's definitely not happening.
51:43Absolutely. Uh, we also have a B checking in saying, uh, boys are good to be back in fancy season.
51:49It is, man. I'll tell you what I woke up this week, a little haggard and staggered from, you know, putting in
51:55a couple of shifts out there in Canton, Ohio this past weekend.
51:59But let me tell you when I knew I was getting back and training camp was, was here.
52:04I was ready to go. My friend, I was absolutely ready to go.
52:08Uh, Canadian spice me the comment of the night saying, should I be regretting that B John London McBride?
52:13Start with that haircut. I would be. That's why I didn't give him a man.
52:17I didn't even know about the haircut. Decision making goes down Madden.
52:21Uh, one more time. So I'll give it to us one more time.
52:24I need, I need to see that beautiful haircut.
52:27I like stacking, uh, the Robin Williams, Aladdin in here as well.
52:30The genie. So there it is. There it is.
52:33Oh, it's a rough man. It's a rough look.
52:36You had it going. He had, you know, he could have been there.
52:39I love the flow on the left, but yeah, it looks sweet.
52:43I love the short sides and I like it grown out, but I, I just, I don't know, man.
52:48I don't, there could have been a lot of ways.
52:51It's a young man's world, Seth. And, uh, I mean, I'm no longer a young man and you, you are, like we
52:57said, going towards a diet Coke, you're transitioning out.
53:00So it's a young man's world. You've seen it all.
53:03We don't get it anymore. So, yeah. Yeah. You've known me since I was, you know, back in the day, I was
53:09a young buck on the scene and, and now I'm getting, now he's a grizzled old veteran.
53:14So yes, sir. Yes, sir. Enter in the prime of my career.
53:18I'd say, here's a, another question from our friend, uh, Axel saying, what round would you be willing to draft Marvin Harrison and redraft?
53:24Or is Michael Wilson, the actual answer for me, Bogman?
53:27Like, I feel like it's got to come now or it's never coming from Marv, right?
53:32I'm 62 overall. So I think that's a fifth round selection is where I have him like late fifth is kind of where I'm willing to go.
53:40It's not a sexy pick, but I rather have someone like Marv over players who have a little bit of an injury risk like Christian Watson over players.
53:48Like I haven't seen the full form yet, such as Luther burden.
53:51Like that's kind of the range I'm in with Marv, but I'm willing to take him above those players.
53:57What about you? Are you in out on Marv right price, right time for you type of situation?
54:02I'm slightly ahead of ECR. ECR has got him at 31 and a half PPR.
54:06I haven't met 29, but I mean, by the way, don't let him clip you on saying that this is it for
54:12Marv because I got killed on the internet for that, uh, on a dynasty take earlier this year.
54:18People missed the fact that I had said, I think he breaks out this year, but if he doesn't, I think we
54:24need to be done with Marvin Harrison because we're just going to make another excuse for him next year.
54:29Next year, if he doesn't break out this year, we're going to say, Oh, well now they're going to be drafting a
54:36quarterback and then Marvin Harrison is going to be better.
54:38Maybe like, is that within the realm of possibility?
54:41Absolutely. But, uh, it also could not be, but I do expect him to have a much better season and all the
54:47reports from Arizona, even with the goofy clips of like, Oh, look at Marv is dropping passes and Michael Wilson's catching them.
54:54Did you see the passes that were thrown to Marv?
54:57They were above his head. Off to the side and everything was hitting Wilson between the numbers.
55:01Right? Uh, so I'm not reacting to one camp clip of a bad day for Marv when he got bad balls thrown to him.
55:08So I do think that, uh, he is breaking out.
55:11I am at 29 in the overall. I have him 28 in positional.
55:15Okay. So I'm right there with you. I have him 65th.
55:18And then let me see where he is on the overall in a one quarterback league on ECR.
55:23As soon as it comes up, my computer's going slow.
55:26He's at 71. So I'm slightly higher in the overall, slightly higher.
55:30Okay. So I just want it so we can say Maserati Marv again, get a little Gus Johnson action there.
55:35I don't have the best Gus impression, but I need a back.
55:39It's been too long. Especially, especially with all the talking you've been doing your, your voice fluttering.
55:44Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. You can, you can't hit those high Gus Johnson notes.
55:48So I think Gus must just like not talk for the entire week leading up to Saturday.
55:53Right? Like he's like his wife's like asking him a question and he's like sign languaging her or like writing it down on a pencil.
56:00I think he's just got a stretchy voice, man.
56:03I think that that's it. It's just a voice that works that, that doesn't get, he doesn't, he can't ruin it by yelling that much, I guess.
56:10Yeah. It's probably just a weird talent. You know, I, I envy it and I envy it, man, because you know, I
56:17have a face for radio, but I don't have quite the voice to go with that face for radio.
56:22So, you know, I, I need all the help I can get out here.
56:26Need all the help I can get for sure.
56:29And, uh, we got scuba checking in as well saying goats for the second time we've been calling goats Yeah, that's awesome.
56:35That's awesome. Appreciate that guys. Also Sal making false promises to the crowd saying once we hit one or 10,000 subscribers here
56:41on twitch.tv slash fancy pros, the place you need to be for all the live stream action right now for fans football
56:48season, getting the music going in the background. Seth will get the Bijon haircut.
56:52Look, I can't even grow my hair that long.
56:54So I'll pay for it. You, you know, you would have to be the, cause cause you can, you can, you cut your hair every couple of years.
57:02So you could just like cut everything off. Like you don't need it.
57:06I'm not going to cut it down to one lock.
57:09No way. Uh, I don't need the rest of it.
57:12You can donate the rest of it and then just keep it up there.
57:16How about it? No. You think that thing hurts if like he flips it and like it hits someone like when Derek
57:22Henry used to have kind of like the longer version, like I always had to think like that would kind of hurt trying to hit that.
57:30I'm sure it would. It looks like you could pull it right out too.
57:34You know what I mean? That's, that's my thing is, uh, I've, I've seen Paul Amalu catch passes and then get his
57:40hair ripped out when they tackle him. So that seems a little dicey to me.
57:44Hopefully that stuff can stay tucked up under that helmet.
57:47Also, I know this isn't a Steelers program, but Mark Caboli having Antonio Brown above Troy Paul Molle and his all time,
57:53like top 25 lists of last 25 years for Steelers players.
57:57I love you, Caboli. I love everything you do for, for the, you know, this particular part of the state.
58:02Terrible take can't do it. I mean, I think half of that is just for engagement, but it's my opinion.
58:08So, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm sure it is.
58:11I'm sure it is, but Troy, we met, we miss you, Troy.
58:14We miss you, Troy, but we got, uh, yeah.
58:17Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let's go. I want to go to Canton next year for a Ben's enshrinement too.
58:22I'm looking forward to Boggs. I know you haven't been to Canton yet.
58:26Is any chance like Ben getting inducted would be kind of your, uh, your move out there?
58:31I mean, I, I, I, I wouldn't go for a player.
58:34I would go for the hall. Right. So, uh, that was, if I was going to go for a player, I tell
58:40you what will definitely get me out there. If Heinz ward goes in, I'm going period.
58:45Okay. If Heinz goes in, I'm there. So, okay.
58:47That is a, that a full, full send full stop.
58:50Uh, I will go for sure. We need you Heinz and, uh, yeah, I have no doubt seven will be in there, but Heinz is long overdue, man.
58:58Yeah. Long overdue. Pretty full send here. Round us out saying which player stands out to you guys when it comes to
59:05the ADP of Pickens, Olave and Devonta Smith preference of one over the other.
59:09Devonta is honestly getting to the point box where he's getting a little too rich for me.
59:13I feel, I felt the same way about Olave where I'm, I'm not drafting Olave there.
59:18There's too many injury and health concerns that like you got the ceiling last year.
59:22Now you have Tyson coming in as well. I'll just take the discounted player in new Orleans.
59:27If I want to pass catcher there, hell I'll take Jawan Johnson if I need to with no taste of Hill now as well.
59:34So yeah, like I guess Pickens would be the one.
59:37I think I have Pickens at wide receiver nine in my rankings.
59:40So eight in my rankings more specifically. So like, but still it is a steep price to pay for Pickens too.
59:46So I prefer none of them, but Pickens would be the one if I had to, what about you, Boggs, gun to the head.
59:53Who do you want out of this tier? It's Pickens.
59:56I also have Pickens at nine. His ECR is 10 and look, just looking at tiers on ECR Pickens at 10 is
60:03in tier two and Olave is at 12 and Devonta is at 13, both in tier three.
60:07So with the tier break, it's definitely Pickens for me.
60:10And also full sentence saying 12 man full PPR in the middle of the fourth round.
60:15If giving the opportunity to take T Higgins or Loveland, let's say you already have two widers here and one running back.
60:21I'm probably going lovey. What about you? Yeah, I would take love them as well.
60:25It gives you a, you know, just gives you a lot of points at a premium position potentially.
60:31So yeah, I'd probably go with Loveland as well.
60:33Yeah. I mean, it's not like a huge discrepancy in my rankings where like, I don't want to say I'm like low
60:40and I'm actually have T Higgins a little bit higher, but if I already have two wide receivers and running back locked
60:46down their full send, I kind of want to get that elite tight end.
60:50So I don't hate that at all, but honestly, like I probably actually prefer a additional answer where like C give me
60:56a Mecca Buka and then I'll maybe try to take Tyler Warren on the way back, but that would be my play.
61:03But either way, I appreciate the question there. Full send.
61:05We already talked about Kenneth Walker a little bit as well.
61:09Is Stribbling a go for you now Boggs? Is he a go now that we had the Ricky Pearsall injury?
61:14No, you're not drafting him in redraft. No, Welsh.
61:17Welsh is on that and he's a Niners fan.
61:19So maybe, you know, listen to him more than me on that specific player.
61:23But no, I think if Ricky Pearsall certain, I'm just not going to draft Ricky Pearsall doesn't mean I want Stribbling now
61:30because Demarcus Robinson is a veteran that could probably beat him out in camp or split that role in camp with him.
61:36So yeah, hard pass for Stribbling on me. Okay.
61:39Excluding who were in players who were injured last year prediction for who the biggest bounce back slash improvement was and who falls well below expectations.
61:46I think as far as like a bounce back without an injury, someone like I'm looking at, we talked about Justin Jefferson.
61:52I'm kind of right in on, on Jordan Addison again, like a guy who has just been continually out producing what he
61:59should from a touchdown standpoint, maybe regression comes, but I think he's a really talented wide receiver.
62:04Who's just been overshadowed his entire career by Jay Jettas.
62:07And I think they're going to do a better job getting him involved.
62:10We all kind of know what they have in TJ Hawkinson.
62:13They bring in Jawan Jennings. So they're not going to be, you know, I don't think force feeding him and they really don't have a running back bogs.
62:21Like that's the big thing in Minnesota. Like I'm not running out there for my guy, Claiborne running there.
62:27That would be fun. I don't know, man. He's got, you know, he fits for that offense.
62:32I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. But all roads to me in Minnesota, like point towards Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, those would be
62:38my, my, my two big bounce backs, non-injury related.
62:41What about you? Do you have a bounce back?
62:43DJ more round out the show. Yeah. Okay. DJ more Buffalo.
62:46I think being the number one there is just going to be so much better for him and you know, uh, getting
62:53into camp, it seemed like him and Josh Allen really had a nice connection.
62:57So him and then somebody that I don't think performs as well.
63:00I'm kind of out on all Jacksonville wide receivers.
63:03Just cause I can't really pin this one down.
63:05So I think there's a lot of Parker Washington hype right now.
63:09I'm just not there. Uh, I like him as a player.
63:12He feels safe. Jacoby feels safe. If I'm going to take one, to be honest, Parker, my other higher upside Washington did.
63:18They're still going to have Washington, uh, return punts, which is not something you typically ask one of your premier players to do.
63:25And they said, BTJ is your wide receiver in 13, which they're clearly going to run more because they drafted two tight ends and extended Brenton strange.
63:33So I just like it's volume. That's it. It's not about anything.
63:36It's my same issue with Walker, right? Is like, I don't think he survives the volume for Washington.
63:41It's like, don't think he gets the volume. So those are, those are my can, my two concerns there.
63:47But, uh, yeah, I like DJ more on a bounce back, like a non-injury bounce back to have a much better year.
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