12 Fantasy Football DRAFT VALUES | Early-Round Studs, Mid-Round Favorites & Late League Winners (Ep. 2060)
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1 hr 5 min
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Jun 19, 2026
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Fri, June 19, 2026
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Jadarian PriceColston LovelandDaniel JonesIsaiah LikelyJayden DanielsJeremiyah LoveJordyn TysonXavier WorthyJonathon BrooksParker WashingtonTrevor LawrenceAlec PierceJosh DownsTyler Warren
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Alec Pierce
PositiveRole0:59
Alec Pierce can connect on deep balls when Daniel Jones unleashes them, showing potential in the vertical passing game.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:59
Alec Pierce adds another dimension to the Colts offense when Daniel Jones unleashes the deep ball, but there is uncertainty about whether he will be 100% healthy for the start of the season.
Insight pageBrenton Strange
PositiveRole0:31
Brenton Strange is a pretty good pass-catching tight end in the Jaguars offense with Trevor Lawrence, providing additional receiving options alongside Parker Washington and other weapons.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
PositiveRole0:34
Brian Thomas Jr. is being asked to run deep routes (20+ yards downfield) which limits his hit rate and opportunities, and he ended last year with only a 13% target share as Trevor Lawrence favored Parker Washington and Jacoby Myers.
Insight pageChuba Hubbard
NegativeProjection0:56
Hubbard is a replacement-level NFL back and average guy; he was usurped and replaced by Rico Dowdle last year and averaged only 3.8 yards per carry.
Insight pageColston Loveland
PositiveBreakout0:14
Loveland is positioned to lead the Bears in receiving yards and touchdowns among tight ends, with potential to be the number-one target on the team ahead of Caleb Williams' other receivers.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:15
Loveland's ECR is 40th overall while Brock Bowers and Trey McBride go mid-to-late second round, making Loveland available in the fourth round at significant value. He could be close to McBride's tier and is ranked higher than McBride for redraft by some analysts.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:16
In his final four games last season (including playoffs), Loveland averaged 12 targets, 7 catches, and 94.5 yards per game. From week 9-10 onward, he was the TE2 after only Trey McBride.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:19
Loveland has the steadiest quarterback situation of comparable tight ends (Bowers, McBride, Tyler Warren, Kraft), which is a key advantage going into 2026.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:19
Loveland projects as the number one tight end in fantasy, with potential to lead tight ends in receiving yards and put up more yards per reception than Bowers and McBride.
Insight pageNegativeValue0:20
Loveland's hype is rising to the point where he may be drafted as the first tight end off the board, which would eliminate the return on investment value that makes him attractive.
Insight pageDaniel Jones
PositiveValue0:58
Daniel Jones was QB5 in the first 10 weeks of last year before injury and is a late-round value pick, especially in superflex leagues, as a second quarterback option.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:58
Daniel Jones is a really intriguing value in superflex leagues, going essentially free late in drafts. He can score 250+ points and finish as QB12-13, making him a league-winner if you wait on QB and he stays healthy.
Insight pagePositiveInjury0:58
The key question for Jones is whether his injury will affect his running ability, which is tied to his fantasy value. His mobility in training camp and preseason will be a critical storyline to monitor.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:59
If Jones is close to 100% running, he doesn't need to be a very good passing quarterback to have value; he can be good in the short to intermediate passing game with help from Tyler Warren and Josh Downs.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:59
Jones is expected to be a back-end QB1 if things break right, balancing less rushing than his 707-carry season with the Giants with improved passing in the Colts offense.
Insight pageEmanuel Wilson
PositiveRole0:38
Emmanuel Wilson is a nice complimentary backup piece in the Seahawks backfield but is not the lead back that Jadarian Price can be.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
PositiveBreakout0:50
Likely could be a league winner in 2026 if he leads his team in targets; with 105-110 targets and 88 receptions for 806 yards and 6 touchdowns, he would average tight end 5 production over the past 10 years.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:50
Likely is likely to be the number two tight end even if Malik Neighbors reaches 100%, and there's a legit chance he could lead the team in targets alongside Neighbors, Fannin, and Warren.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:51
Giants camp reports indicate Likely looks amazing and is the only player in the passing game getting consistent positive buzz, with Slayton looking iffy and Malakai Fields not doing much yet.
Insight pageNegativeBust0:52
When Likely was with Harbaugh in Baltimore, he was disappointing and underwhelming even when Mark Andrews wasn't available, raising questions about his ability to take over a starting role.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:53
In the 2024 season opener against the Chiefs, Likely looked like Tony Gonzalez and was making plays all over the place, nearly scoring multiple touchdowns, showing what he could do over a full season.
Insight pageJadarian Price
PositiveValue0:37
Jadarian Price has a clear pathway to significant playing time as a first-round draft pick and should hold his value as people continue to evaluate the Seahawks running back room.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:38
Price is positioned to finish close to the top 15 running backs or push the back end of the RB1 tier if he gets 220-230 touches with around 20 receptions and 9-10 rushing touchdowns, even with a split backfield.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:39
If Price gets 220-230 touches with limited receptions but scores 9-10 touchdowns, he could finish close to the top 15 running backs or push the back end of the RB1 tier, representing good value at his mid-low RB2 ADP.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:39
Price is a stretch zone runner in Seattle's outside zone scheme, similar to Raheem Mostert, and can hit gaps and bust through, especially on goal line touches, though he is not a big pass catcher.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:39
Price is a Raheem Mostert-style stretch zone runner who can hit gaps and bust through, and should get goal line touches even if he only gets a handful of receptions, positioning him well for touchdown upside.
Insight pagePositiveMatchup0:40
Price's ADP could be sensitive to training camp reports; positive reports could move him up significantly, while vague reports or news about Emmanuel Wilson competition could depress his price in mid to late August.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:40
Price is perfectly suited to Seattle's outside zone running scheme, which is reportedly going to be largely the same as last year under Clint Kubiak.
Insight pageNegativeInjury0:41
There is concern that Charbonnet could return near the end of the regular season and reduce Price's touches in the most important weeks of the fantasy season.
Insight pageJayden Daniels
PositiveProjection0:21
Daniels has top five quarterback upside with 20.6 fantasy points per game as a rookie (which would have tied him with Stafford for QB2 last year), and still has the potential to be a top five QB if he stays healthy and the Commanders maximize his rushing ability.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:22
With David Blau as offensive coordinator, the Commanders will implement concepts that maximize Daniels' rushing ability through more 11 personnel and shotgun pre-snap motion, similar to successful schemes used by McVay and Kingsbury.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:23
Daniels only needs mid-3000 passing yards and mid-20 touchdowns with rushing production to maintain top five upside, though staying healthy is a major question mark.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:24
Daniels is ranked QB4 ahead of Joe Burrow and is a value pick as the fifth quarterback off the board, despite being behind Josh Allen, Drake May, and Lamar Jackson in the top five.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveRole0:04
Love faces a crowded Arizona backfield with James Connor and Tyler Algier, which is keeping his ADP/ECR depressed despite his talent and draft capital.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:04
Love is being drafted at RB 13 ECR despite top-12 draft capital, presenting value at his floor. Historical precedent shows eight top-12 drafted RBs from 2015-2025 averaged 1,474 scrimmage yards and 10.9 TDs in their rookie years, with the worst finish being RB 13—where Love is currently being drafted.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:07
Love's RB 13 ranking is considered fair given the crowded backfield and concerns about rookie RB performance, though his top-10 talent is acknowledged.
Insight pageNegativeProjection0:08
Love's rookie season ceiling may be capped by the Cardinals' weak rushing offense, which only produced nine total rushing touchdowns last year, and uncertainty about whether all of those will go to Love or be split with Tyler Algier.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveBreakout0:55
If healthy, Jonathan Brooks' peak talent from his University of Texas days is likely better than Chuba Hubbard's peak, and Brooks could take over the backfield even if Hubbard starts the season.
Insight pageNegativeBust0:55
Brooks suffered two ACL tears in the same knee, with the first repair possibly not being done well and taking a long time to recover from before he got hurt again almost immediately.
Insight pagePositiveInjury0:55
Brooks underwent a double bundle ACL repair technique on his second surgery that improved lateral stability and made it a stronger overall repair; he was given an extra long recovery time and will have 20 months since his last game by season start.
Insight pageJordyn Tyson
PositiveBreakout0:41
Tyson has enormous talent and could be a top 25 receiver if the Saints offense improves to 55-60% pass rate; he could put up 1,000 yards and 6-7 touchdowns with more reception reliance than Olave.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:42
Tyson is a good complement alongside Olave in the Saints offense and benefits from not having to be the primary option right away, similar to how Mike Evans' complement receivers thrived early in the season.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:45
Unlike Carnell Tate who faces pressure as the number one guy, Tyson gets to be a complementary player alongside Olave and won't face top corners every week, which is a nice setup for early success.
Insight pagePositiveInjury0:45
There are some troubling hamstring reports about Tyson that need to be monitored, though the collarbone injury concern is less worrisome.
Insight pageJosh Downs
PositiveRole0:59
Josh Downs helps Daniel Jones in the short to intermediate passing game, providing support for Jones' offensive arsenal.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:59
Josh Downs helps Daniel Jones in the short to intermediate passing game, adding dimension to the Colts offense.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
NegativeProjection0:38
Kenneth Walker had a disappointing 2025 season with only 12.6 fantasy points per game, down from 12.9 in 2023, and lost goal line work to Zach Charbonnet, dropping from 7-9 rushing touchdowns to just 12 combined with Charbonnet.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveProjection0:35
Parker Washington had almost 1,000 yards (954) last year including playoffs and averaged 6.5 catches and 113.5 yards per game with three touchdowns in the final four games of the season.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:36
Parker Washington has a mid to late eighth round ECR and is a steal, with fourth-ranked contested catches among wide receivers last year despite being a sixth-round draft pick.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:36
Parker Washington is set up well because Trevor Lawrence tends to favor slot receivers and tight ends, and Washington played about half his snaps in the slot last year, positioning him as a primary target.
Insight pageTravis Hunter
PositiveRole0:31
Travis Hunter is a wild card in the Jaguars pass-catching weaponry alongside Parker Washington, BTJ, Jacoby Myers, and Brenton Strange.
Insight pageTrevor Lawrence
PositiveProjection0:29
Trevor Lawrence finished the 2025 season very strong and is set up for a big 2026 with improved efficiency under Liam Cohen's offense, posting 265 passing yards per game, 2.6 TD passes per game, and 8.4 yards per attempt over his final seven regular season games.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:30
Lawrence provided significant rushing value with 9 touchdown runs last year and good yardage, and by the end of the season looked like one of the elite quarterbacks in fantasy.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:31
Lawrence is going to be the most drafted quarterback in redraft leagues this year as a back-end QB1, but he's actually more like a mid-range QB1 with high-end QB1 upside, making him a value.
Insight pageTyler Warren
PositiveRole0:59
Tyler Warren helps Daniel Jones in the short to intermediate passing game, providing support for Jones' offensive arsenal.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:59
Tyler Warren helps Daniel Jones in the short to intermediate passing game, adding dimension to the Colts offense.
Insight pageXavier Worthy
PositiveValue0:47
Worthy is going 123rd overall in round 10+, but over a 10-game stretch from week 11 of 2024 through the Super Bowl he averaged 5.8 catches and 67.9 receiving yards per game with six touchdowns, producing at a 1,150-yard, 10-touchdown pace.
Insight pageNegativeInjury0:48
Worthy dislocated his shoulder in the season opener against the Chargers and while he only missed a couple of games, some believe he wasn't right for the whole 2025 season.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:49
Worthy is being punished for his poor 2025 season when we've already seen the best of him in his rookie season, making him a sneaky value at his current ADP.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:49
Worthy finished as a wide receiver 28-30 last year and will be a roller coaster with inconsistent weeks, but has the explosive playmaking ability to score 20-point games alongside four-point weeks.
Insight pageZach Charbonnet
PositiveRole0:38
Zach Charbonnet took over goal line rushing duties from Kenneth Walker last year with 12 rushing touchdowns, but is unlikely to play much in 2026, opening the door for Jadarian Price to get those touches.
Insight pageFull transcript
Episode Transcript
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Varieties available in all geographies.
0:04Warning, this product can cause mouth cancer. I'm Jake Seeley from The Athletic, Pat Fitzmaurice, my patty cakes, and of course subscribe
0:10here to the YouTube channel Fantasy Pros because this is what we do here.
0:14We talk fantasy football 12 months out of the year, 365 days, and it feels like 365 days sometimes I can tell you that.
0:21I feel like every day is just a gift when I get to hang out with these two and talk ball.
0:28So today, gentlemen, value is always a difficult thing because you struggle with it even at the grocery store, right?
0:34You go to the grocery store and you find something that looks like a good value.
0:38You take home that frozen pizza, next thing you know it's not exactly what you thought it was going to be.
0:45The cardboard's a little, you know, kind of a feeling of taste and the crust is not what you want it to be.
0:51The cheese maybe, eh, not quite as melty. The sauce is not what you expected it to be, maybe a little bland.
0:58So Jake, what is it about values that really stick out to you when you're looking for the fantasy equivalent?
1:04Because sometimes values present themselves, but sometimes they leave a bad taste in your mouth.
1:08And this was the longest I could possibly go for a bad metaphor.
1:12I know you're really stretching that one there. I did, and I feel like I saved it at the end.
1:18It was really bad, but saved it in the last minute there.
1:22Pulled it around a little bit there. So I will say, it's trying to find, it's easy.
1:27The players that have ceilings that there's a gap from where they are being drafted to where that gap is, where that ceiling can hit.
1:34Obviously the risk comes with a lot of these players because we're not talking about first, second, third rounders a lot because
1:41their ceiling to gaps are very small. You know, like, okay, maybe somebody can finish his RB too, but if he's being
1:47drafted at the end of the first round, like, cool.
1:50Yeah, there is a ceiling. But we're looking for those players that whether by what we've talked about on other shows, breakouts,
1:57team changes, offensive changes, whatever it might be, where you're getting rounds different value.
2:01And again, a lot of it comes with risk because they aren't, they're not top three or top three rounds of draft picks because there's risks associated.
2:09There's scenarios that we don't know, but that's what we're really looking for.
2:13Basically to put it in the return on investment, we're looking for the biggest returns on investment we can find.
2:19Fitzy, sometimes they often find that the values lie within the veterans.
2:22You know, often, you know, we get kind of bored with certain players that we know were just good.
2:28And I feel like in a lot of drafts, some of the veteran players can get pushed to the side a little bit and underappreciated.
2:35And that's something that I always pay attention to in redraft leagues too.
2:39You know, everyone's always looking for the big thing, you know, that next thing that's going to crack and win you a league.
2:46But sometimes those things disappoint. But yet there's the veterans just kind of linger every season and the ADP kind of is stagnant a little bit.
2:54And I think it's just because people are bored.
2:56Yeah. What is it that Scott Pianowski calls those guys the Raul Abanez all-stars?
3:01The guys who just dependably give you 25 home runs and 90 RBIs a year.
3:05And there are equivalents in football. Guys who just, you know, punch in, give you their consistent numbers, punch out.
3:11And maybe because they sort of their ceiling is capped.
3:14They are what they are. They're less sexy to people in fantasy drafts.
3:18But there is a value to that sort of high floor baseline production that those guys can give you.
3:24Shout out to the 10% of the people who got that Raul Abanez reference.
3:28Oh, they got it. Well, look, go watch Fantasy Pros MLB.
3:31Go subscribe to that channel if you like some baseball.
3:34By the way, Raul Abanez, we were just talking about him on the show because I was comping a young player to
3:40him that was coming up through the minors. Age 34 was the real like breakout season for him.
3:46So anything's possible for y'all out there too. Just remember Raul Abanez didn't really start becoming great till 34 and he played all the way to lose 42.
3:54That's right. All right, let's get to some of these names.
3:57Remember, again, subscribe to the channel. Drop your comments below.
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4:06Let's start with some early round values. Now this is a little trickier because obviously some of these players are still pretty big names.
4:13But Pat, I want to start with you here because despite the fact it's a crowded backfield in Arizona, you still think
4:20Jeremiah Love is coming at a value. Let's talk about why and maybe also the expectations of when when it comes to
4:26Jeremiah Love because I think that is the question we have after the last four or five years waiting on rookie running backs to hit.
4:34And unfortunately, having to wait most of the time till the second half of a fantasy season for it to happen.
4:40Yeah, it's a crowded backfield, Joe, but I do think it's a crowd of guys standing around the coffee maker waiting to
4:46get Jeremiah Love his coffee and flavor it the way he wants.
4:50Like he's going to be the guy you don't spend a number three pick on him and only to have him share
4:57time with James Connor and Tyler Algier. So and I think the crowd is part of what's keeping his ADP down or his ECR.
5:04Last time I checked in ECR, he was RB 13 and a half point ECR that and the fact that he went to a bad team.
5:11But man, so I just look at the historical precedent here with highly drafted first round running backs.
5:17So from 2015 to 2025, there were eight such running backs guys selected with top 12 overall picks in the draft over those 11 years.
5:24Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, B.
5:27John Robinson, Jameer Gibbs and Ashton Chenty. Those eight running backs in their rookie years averaged 1,474 yards from scrimmage and 10.9 touchdowns.
5:34And I think the worst output of any of them was Christian McCaffrey, who had 1,086 scrimmage yards.
5:40Not a lot on the ground his rookie year, but some pretty good pass catching production.
5:44He was RB 11 in half point PPR scoring that year.
5:48And maybe the worst fantasy finish, I think, was Gentty last year, who might have been RB 13, I believe, which is where Love is getting drafted now.
5:56So you're drafting Love, I think, potentially at his floor.
5:59And as far as the argument that the Cardinals were terrible, those eight running backs drafted with top 12 picks from 2015
6:05to 2025, the winning percentage of the team that drafted those guys in the previous year was 320.
6:11So those were terrible teams too, and those running backs did just fine.
6:15So I know there's a fear of rookie running backs because they don't have any established NFL resume right now, but I
6:21think Love is a value where he's being drafted right now.
6:24Yeah, it's a lot of draft capital put into him as well.
6:28By the way, speaking of the coffee creamer situation here, I'm wondering, what do you think Jake Seeley is with the coffee creamer?
6:35You think he's a French vanilla guy, hazelnut? Oh, drink that nasty stuff.
6:39I knew that was going to be the answer.
6:41Like, he doesn't even drink coffee. What's your morning pick-me-up, Jake?
6:45I don't need anything. I'm super. Oh, my God.
6:47You just spring out of bed without any pick-me-ups.
6:50No, I'm not a morning person. I've just never needed, like, I drink water in the morning to rehydrate, and then I
6:57have an energy drink throughout the day, but I've never needed that, like, I need to wake up thing.
7:02Oh, you're one of those Derek Brown people. You're one of the energy drink folks.
7:07No, I know. It's mixed in here with my protein drink and then Gatorade, essentially.
7:11But I don't drink Gatorade, but that's throughout the day.
7:14That's quite a concoction he got there, Seeley. I know.
7:17This has lasted me the entire day. Now get off my lawn.
7:21Jeremiah Love for a moment. Give me your thoughts on him, old man, because to Fitzy's point, I mean, the talent is
7:27there, the draft capital is there, everything presents itself.
7:30It's just a little bit of a crowded situation, and ironically, it's Tyler Algier again who could be the villain in this
7:36situation, just like he was for Bijan in his rookie year.
7:40Yeah, I love the fact that we're actually starting with a disagreement between Fitz and me.
7:44It's not usually normal that we're on upsides. I know.
7:47Now, I actually think his spot is fair at 13, because that's where I would put him, because of all those names
7:54that he mentioned, I think the biggest telltale sign is last year with Gentie.
7:58And I'm not trying to play recency bias, because I will argue with Fitz on this, like with him, is the fact that he's right.
8:05And probably Gentie is what's clouding this a lot, too.
8:08It's not just the backfield, but everybody saw what just happened with Gentie and are like, man, we're going to see this all over again.
8:16But I think that's the real concern is because he was already 17 in points per game, and those are running backs that played at least eight games.
8:24That's not even like, oh, one running back snuck in with like a 20-point performance.
8:29So you have RB 17 in points per game, RB 13 overall, five rushing touchdowns.
8:33The Cardinals offense, I agree with him, is the fact that, yeah, it's not as terrible as people might make it out
8:40to be, but it's still a team that only ran for nine touchdowns last year.
8:44The Raiders only ran for five. Gentie had all of them.
8:47So I just think there's a lot of issues where you just brought up the other part that I was going to
8:54loop in there, is that are all nine touchdowns going to go to love, or is Algier going to snake some of those?
9:01And the second part of it is I just feel like the Cardinals, hopefully, I would say this, this hurts for fantasy,
9:07but I'm hoping they're smart and they don't destroy Jeremiah Love in his rookie season because they aren't contenders.
9:13And they're looking forward to similar what we're hearing from Aaron Glenn with Breece Hall and the full backload committee is because they're looking forward.
9:20Like, you're not contending this year. Don't destroy your best asset in his first season, similar to the Giants with Saquon Barkley.
9:27So I understand everything that Pat is saying. And talent aside, like Jeremiah Love is top 10 talent likely as soon as he steps into the NFL.
9:35But I just think with all those scenarios, I think 13 is fair.
9:39I'm not going to put him down at 17, but I think his 12, 13 range is probably going to keep him there myself.
9:46So I'm not quite as high to start things out.
9:49All right, let's talk about another running back because early round value in your mind is Cam Scadaboo, the New York Giants.
9:55Like he says that he feels really good. He feels like he is back and getting confident again.
10:01But we've also seen, you know, sometimes these injuries do linger into the season for a lot of these players.
10:07So talk about Cam Scadaboo and also talk about the fact that he's not just this bull rushing kind of guy, because
10:13if you watched him in college, he can catch the football for days.
10:17He is a three down back, in my opinion.
10:20And I think sometimes that gets lost in the shuffle of the conversation about Scadaboo, that he's just this guy who runs people over.
10:27He's got a lot more to his game than just that.
10:30He does. And the topic, like the category we were kind of given for this is people that potentially have a higher
10:37ceiling do various scenarios than where they're being drafted.
10:39And we all know that Scadaboo, the ceiling is high.
10:42I, I, the report yesterday where he said, I'm looking to run through dudes even more than before.
10:48I'll look just like banging. We're banging our heads against the wall when he goes to bang his head against defender players
10:54and possibly not play 17 games again. But the real appeal here is the potential for 17 games is what I was going to bring up.
11:02What you just said, Joe, is the potential for 300 touches.
11:05If they treat them as just 55 to 60 percent, he doesn't need to be 70 percent.
11:10I talked to somebody the other day, 70 percent last year, running backs that hit that.
11:15It was only seven guys. That's very uncommon. But for him to get 55, 60 percent, you know, I was playing with
11:22around with my projections to get him 300 touches.
11:24And that puts him at eleven hundred rushing yards, 300 receiving yards, around 10 touchdowns and RB 10.
11:30And I think that's the real point here is that if he stays healthy, big question mark.
11:35If he gets that workload, if healthy is not the question mark.
11:38His talent, as you just said, is not just in the run game.
11:42It is in the passing game as well. All those things being decided, the biggest question we have is health.
11:48But if he plays 17 games, the ceiling is there for him to be an RB one.
11:53The good news is unlike Jeremiah Love and I'm not taking shots at fifths, but like I don't like Jeremiah Love and
12:00all these like genties, like maybe they can bounce back in that offense.
12:03Brees hole. What's the committee? You're not paying RB one cost to get Scadaboo because everybody understands that risk.
12:09Pat, you know, a lot of these players, when they have these injuries, it's about getting physically healthy and usually they physically
12:16can get back to where they want to be.
12:18But it's the mental side where they're overthinking it and they're a little concerned.
12:22I'm not as concerned about that with Cam Scadaboo because I don't think Cam Scadaboo is a guy that overthinks just as a general note.
12:30So I'll put that out there. Me see defender, me run through.
12:33Me run with ball. Me make defender go to ground.
12:36Me triumph in football. But I'm joking, but I'm really not joking because I just don't think that's going to be part
12:43of his recovery process where he's really going to be the kind of player that does really overthink like the what if scenarios.
12:50Like he's just not that type of guy. He's a very aggressive football player.
12:54And I think that aspect is actually not something we should worry about.
12:58Oh, I think that's totally fair. The football phrase business decisions does not apply to Cam Scadaboo.
13:03He is not making business decisions. You know, he just wants to pummel guys.
13:07And, you know, I'm going to unlike Jake, who was so rude to me with a Jeremiah pushback, I'm going to agree with him here.
13:14Like I think Scadaboo is a reasonable value. ECR has got him going, I think, early fifth round right now.
13:20And I think that's totally fair. The leap of faith is with his health because that was no minor injury.
13:26That was an open dislocation, tibia fracture, ligament damage.
13:29So, we have to, the leap of faith we're taking is that he's going to be athletically 95% or better of what he was in his rookie year.
13:37But those six full games we saw him play last year because he didn't really play a lot in his first game
13:44and then he got injured early in the last game.
13:47The six games in between, every high value touch pretty much belonged to Scadaboo.
13:51He was the goal line guy. He was the pass catching back.
13:55He got everything. It was a really valuable workload and he made the most of it.
13:59So, that's what we're hoping for. Something like that again at a discount price.
14:03But, yeah, there is a path to workhorse usage here for sure.
14:07And he's a rhythm value guy, Pat, too. Like, he's one of the guys the more he touches the ball, the better he becomes.
14:14Like, he's just that kind of back. Not every back is like that.
14:18Cam Scadaboo is one of those guys. All right, let's move on to the next guy on your list here, Pat, because yesterday we did a tailgate show.
14:26It's out there right now. Go check it out, Tailgate NFL, our new YouTube channel where we did our little bold predictions.
14:33We talked about Brennan Sorsby. We had a great show.
14:36Lots of fun. Andrew said some things he regrets.
14:39I'm not going to spoil it for you. Just go check out the show.
14:43So, pretty much. Pretty much. But one of my bold predictions was Colson Loveland not only leads the Bears in all receiving
14:49yards and receiving tight ends, but leads all tight ends in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns.
14:54So, I do believe that Colston Loveland is that piece that you can really count on.
14:59And Fitzy, it looks like you're starting to see that same thing that I am too, where Loveland looks like, to me,
15:05the guy where the offense really starts with in Chicago.
15:08What a perfect lead-in, because that fits nicely the two points I was going to make, Joe.
15:13That right now we're seeing Brock Bowers and Trey McBride go mid to late second round.
15:18Well, in best ball drafts, maybe it's a little different depending on the format.
15:22Some of those are tight end premium. But as far as ECR, that's kind of where he settles.
15:28And I've already actually done one redraft draft. And that's where those guys were.
15:32And I got Colson Loveland in the fourth round.
15:34And Colson Loveland's ECR right now is 40th. And I think he could actually be pretty close to McBride and Bowers.
15:41Well, maybe not Bowers. I think Bowers could break fantasy football this year.
15:44But close to McBride. And I think Debro, who's like a noted Trey McBride connoisseur on our staff, he's got Loveland ranked higher for redraft this year.
15:52And that's sort of it. I mean, the key to maybe hitting at the tight end position and getting these guys like
15:59is figuring out if they could be the number two target on their own team.
16:03But I think there are three guys who could conceivably be the number one target on their own teams this year.
16:10McBride, who certainly was last year. Bowers, who certainly was when healthy.
16:13And Loveland. I think Loveland could get possibly more targets than either Burden or Odunze.
16:18So all of those guys are capable of elite production.
16:21And we kind of saw it with Loveland down the stretch last year, where in his final four games, playoffs included, average
16:2712 targets, seven catches, 94 and a half yards a game.
16:31And from like week nine or 10 on, I think he was tight end, too, after only Trey McBride.
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19:06Jake, the thing I like about Loveland more than the other two, like, ours is incredibly talented.
19:11I love Trey McBride. I think Kraft, you can make a great argument for being in this conversation.
19:17Tyler Warren, too, the way things are shaking up with Alec Pierce's health.
19:20But with Loveland, I feel like he's got the, of all those guys, the steadiest quarterback situation going into 2026.
19:26That's my argument. And you're not wrong. And for anybody that saw, I think we did a show last week when we were talking about projections.
19:34It was the three of us. And I was shocked that my projections spat out Loveland as the number one.
19:40But I think that's in play. The only disagreement I would have is to reset.
19:45See, I didn't even need all those spreadsheets. I just knew.
19:48I just knew. You just knew? All those fancy spreadsheets.
19:51You knew after I told you that last week is what you knew.
19:55No, I was. You said the same thing where I said it.
19:58I know. And you're like, well, it's funny you say that, Drew.
20:02I know. Because I've done 74 hours of math and come to the same conclusion that all I had to do was just use my eyeballs.
20:09That's all I did. You got it wrong. It's 74 hours of manipulating the math.
20:14So there you go. That's like, this is my personal touch.
20:17The difference, you know, nitpicking aside is like, I actually don't know if he leads tight ends and receptions.
20:23It's receiving yards. I think he's going to do more on a per reception basis than Bowers and McBride do.
20:29Just because I think he's going to put up more yards on that situation.
20:33But anyway, I mean, nitpicking these differences here. So I have no problem with Loveland being the conversation at tier one.
20:39Like it's the conversation that Fish just had saving something for later, because I actually think there are more than three tight
20:46ends that could lead their teams and target percentage and everything like that.
20:50So save that for later. But Loveland's in play here.
20:53The biggest concern is like, I'm going to feel like a broken record at this point, Joey, because we've done it on
20:59so many shows is the fact that let's remember.
21:02We're talking about it. You're talking about it. Everybody else is talking about Loveland's going to get to some point where he's
21:08going to get boosted so high that everybody like maybe in your leagues, people listening and be like, oh, I got to get Loveland.
21:15And if somebody takes them as the first tight end off the board, you kind of blew up any chance of getting
21:22what we're focused on today, the return on investment.
21:25That is fair. That is fair. All right, Jake, let's talk about one more early round value guy.
21:30Daniel Jones, brilliant rookie season, rookie of the year, you know, breaking the wheel there at QB, rushing, rushing for touchdowns, giving
21:37us what we wanted from the passing game as well.
21:39Year two, obviously marred by injury, went from quarterback five to quarterback 34.
21:43So again, sometimes people's memories are a little bit shorter than they should be.
21:48It's not that long ago where he was top five in fantasy.
21:51And now all of a sudden you're looking at a lot of people who are kind of afraid to reinvest in him, it feels like.
21:59Which is kind of weird to me. Like I get the injury risk, but we've played the injury risk game with Lamar Jackson and other running quarterbacks.
22:07But the upside is undeniable. Like you just brought it up.
22:10The fact he was 20.6 fancy points per game as rookie season.
22:13He's QB five, by the way, 20.6 last year would have tied him with Stafford for number two.
22:19Like that upside is still there. So those is rookie season and it was 3,500 yards and 25 passing touchdowns.
22:25Like that's the whole point about these running quarterbacks that hit eight, nine, even a potential thousand yards.
22:30I don't think he'll necessarily do that because hopefully the commanders kind of keep him in like that 800 realm, which sounds
22:37like they're keeping him in check to a degree.
22:39But they kind of are in that facet. But with David Blau taking over, you're also going to get all the mix of what worked with Kingsbury.
22:47But oh, by the way, let's use some more 11 personnel.
22:50Let's use some more shotgun, pre-snap motion. All these things that work in the NFL that have been proven for the past couple of years.
22:58There's a reason why some of these guys have now head coaching jobs like in New Orleans and with the Raiders and
23:04all this type of stuff, because they're using all these concepts that Blau looks to be implementing for the commanders to maximize Jaden Daniels in this offense.
23:12The biggest question, obviously, is maximizing the passing game with potentially Antonio Williams as your number two.
23:18Still room for that to change. But even so, we only need mid 3000 yards.
23:22We only need mid 20 touchdowns. And if he runs and stays healthy, another big question mark, maybe that'll be the theme of my guys.
23:29Just stay healthy. It's the fact that he still has top five upside.
23:33I would take him as the fifth quarterback off the board because there's still the potential that what we were doing this
23:40time last year, Joe, and I say we as in everybody.
23:43It was, oh, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Jalen Hurts was still in the conversation at that point.
23:48But everybody was like, who is the potential that gets the number one spot?
23:53And everybody was like, well, Jaden Daniels could do it if he builds off his rookie season and now nobody wants him.
23:59I just don't get it. Fitzy, where are you at with Jaden Daniels going into this year?
24:04Do you see him as a value or because quarterback is deep?
24:08You're just saying, yeah, I recognize what he could be, which is a top five guy.
24:12But this quarterback group in single QB leagues is deep enough where I don't even need to chase it necessarily.
24:18I think I'm probably going to be doing my shopping in that sort of mid-tier quarterback, the low-end QB1 group, like with
24:25a guy I'm going to talk about next. But I do have Jaden Daniels ranked QB4 ahead of Joe Burrow.
24:31And I know Joe Burrow is ahead of Jaden Daniels in ECR.
24:34It's all about the running. Jake, where do you have Daniels?
24:38How do you have him ranked vis-a-vis Burrow and Drake May?
24:41So it's funny that I have Drake May in front of him.
24:45And in my brain, as I said it, where I said we'd take him five, I meant to say top five.
24:51I actually have him at four. I have Burrow at five.
24:54So I go Allen, May, Jackson, Daniels, Burrow are my top five.
24:58Oh, you've made ahead of Jackson. Okay. I switched those two, but otherwise our top five.
25:02I switched those when A.J. Brown got traded to them.
25:05Yeah, I'm with you. And by the way, I do think the commanders, at some point they're going to bring in someone,
25:12whether it's Iuke or maybe they bring Maryland guy.
25:15Stephan Diggs is still hanging out there. Yep. The Maryland guy.
25:18Bring him back to the region. I think Allen had a pretty good season last year.
25:23And then, like, you know, wear and tear of the year kind of caught up with him.
25:28I want somebody who's a little bit more reliable in and out of the locker room than Stephan Diggs if I'm the commander.
25:34There. I get what you're saying 100% there. Like, I wonder just who has more left between Diggs and Allen would be
25:41my only concern because you already have. No, Diggs probably has more left, but he also has more left in terms of things that can go sideways.
25:49I feel crazy. Debo Samuel out there, too. Stephan Diggs is an experience.
25:53Don't bring back Debo. No, no, no. I don't think that's it.
25:56And that's the same point of Iuke. I think Iuke I put in the same bucket with Diggs, which is just like it feels like a lot.
26:04Give me Keenan Allen, who I know is going to be solid in the locker room, who I know is, you know,
26:11could be a good presence for everybody and for a young quarterback.
26:15God. Can we get – is Tyreek done? Like, or is he going to like – I don't know.
26:20Weeks four to six, he gets to 100%? He's in the same bucket with the other guys, the problem children.
26:26Like, you know, I don't know how much you want to deal with that stuff right now, especially after coming off the
26:33year you are, where everything was a disappointment for the commanders last year.
26:37Erickson – again, I'm talking about Andrew twice in the show.
26:40He's not even on it. But he brought up an interesting point, which was another one of his bold predictions was about
26:46that Aaron Glenn is not the first guy fired, that it might be Dan Quinn this year.
26:51And you look at the schedule of the commanders, man, the first six games are rough and they got an early bye too.
26:58Like, it is a rough start and I don't – I think Dan Quinn is a good football coach, so I don't want that to happen.
27:06I was seeing what the latest news on Tyreek Hill is.
27:09There's two things actually within the last 24 hours is that he's hanging out in Kansas City, which has made people raise their eyebrows.
27:16Not shocking. And then there's an article that says the commanders should take the risk on Tyreek Hill.
27:22Those are legit two things within the past 24 hours.
27:25Did you write one of those two things in the Athletic?
27:28No, I didn't. I don't – you know, we're fantasy.
27:31We don't write those kind of things. Or he's like, I just went online and looked and it turns out there's this
27:37fascinating article in the Athletic that somebody astutely pointed out something.
27:41And it turns out Jake wrote it. You know, it's just the worst.
27:45While we're touting the Athletic, I'll just mention that.
27:47Like they could use more firepower because on the Athletic Football podcast with Robert Mays and his crew, they were ranking the offensive weaponry around each quarterback.
27:55I was in Chicago for that while they were doing that.
27:59The commanders were 16th. See? 16th out of 16 NFC teams.
28:02Yeah. We actually – before they went on the show, I was having a debate with the producer of whether the commanders
28:08or the Panthers were going to be the bottom team because it was talent.
28:13Take the quarterback completely out of the conversation. Just pure talent who has 1 through 16.
28:17And if you're looking at it without the quarterback, it's like pretty much McMillan in question marks and then McLaurin in a big question mark.
28:25So yeah, commanders were last. All right, everybody. Before we move to the mid-round talents, don't forget.
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29:00make the right pick every single time. All right.
29:03Next up here, the mid-round guys. So, Pat, let's start with yours here.
29:07You got the – actually, you know what? Let's do both of yours because they're kind of tied to each other.
29:13Jacksonville Jaguar guys. Trevor Lawrence, Parker Washington. Now, some people who might remain nameless on this program here on this channel have
29:19said that Trevor Lawrence could be MVP this year.
29:22I'm not that person. I don't think anybody here is.
29:25But one of our colleagues has already said that.
29:28Go find out who on the tailgate show. But Trevor Lawrence obviously finished the year very strong in this offense.
29:34You're taking Travis HN out of this offense. So now the run game I think is a little bit more suspect than
29:40it was heading into last year, which I think was a very key point of success for that Jaguars offense and Trevor Lawrence as well.
29:48And then you had the late season surge of Parker Washington.
29:51And I feel like I'm landing where you are, Fitzy, where people are trying to rehash Brian Thomas a little bit.
29:57People are trying to say, well, Jacoby Myers is the more veteran presence talent.
30:01But I feel like they kind of just showed you their hand last year.
30:05And we just don't want to believe it because that's not the guy that we want it to be.
30:11But it feels like it might just be Parker Washington after all.
30:15Talk to me about these two Jaguars and why you think both of them are potential big values this year.
30:21I think part of it is I now want to put Liam Cohen in the same class of offensive schemers with Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan.
30:28Like I think he belongs there. That's a big class there.
30:32Yeah. And those guys, McVay and Shanahan, have kind of been cheat codes for quarterback efficiency in recent years.
30:37And we've seen that with Brock Purdy. I mean, my goodness, the former Mr.
30:41Irrelevant in the NFL draft. And look what he's become.
30:44Trevor Lawrence, early on last year, while he was trying to digest the Liam Cohen offense, kind of stunk in the early weeks of the season.
30:52But then over. Yeah. So over his first 10 games, 215 passing yards a game, 1.1 touchdown passes, 6.4 yards per attempt,
30:59which is, you know, the Bryce Young zone. But over his last seven regular season games, 265 passing yards a game, 2.6
31:05touchdown passes a game, 8.4 yards per attempt. A 108.6 passer rating.
31:09Like he just got it. Oh, and by the way, he was providing all this rushing value, 9 touchdown runs last year, some good yardage too.
31:16So by the end of the season, he looked like one of the elites at quarterback.
31:21And who's to say he can't be that over the full season in 2026?
31:25He's got really good pass catching weaponry too with Parker Washington, who I'll get to in a minute.
31:31BTJ. Jacoby Myers. Travis Hunter is a wild card.
31:33Brenton Strange, a pretty good pass catching tight end.
31:36And so, yeah. And as you said, Joe, they might not lean on the running game as much now that they don't
31:43really have a proven go-to guy in the backfield.
31:45So I think things are set up pretty well for Lawrence to smash.
31:49I think he's going to be my most drafted quarterback in redraft leagues this year because he's going like sort of as a back-end QB1.
31:57And I think he's more like a mid-range QB1 with high-end QB1 upside.
32:00I know what you're going to tell me right now, cake Sealy, which is just buy Trevor Lawrence, ignore all the icing.
32:07I know. I know the drill. It's only June.
32:10I've already been trained here on the corner. I mean, you saw the shirt.
32:14It's coming. I know. Well, I like to think that I'm partially responsible for that shirt.
32:19You are. You said make the quarterbacks the candles, and I did.
32:22Yeah. And I like to think that when I see you in a couple months at Flex in New York, that you're
32:29going to hand me an extra large version of that shirt so I can wear it.
32:33That's what I would very much like. Extra large.
32:36Now you're on the clock. Okay. Nah, man. Too swole, bro.
32:39Too swole. Oh, my God. Get no sets in, man.
32:42But let's talk about it. Let's talk about – I just am.
32:46I don't know. I just – whatever. It is what it is at this point.
32:50So talk to me about Parker Washington because I already know your feelings are about Trevor Lawrence, and I think the Washington
32:57one is the – this is the game I feel like every fantasy analyst is going to be playing from now until
33:03Labor Day, which is here's why I'm the smartest person in the room about the Jaguars wide receiver room.
33:09And I'm just curious if you've got to put your money on one of these horses, which one are you putting on?
33:16Parker Washington. Oh, sorry. No. I was going to – yeah, I was echoing.
33:20I already know who you are, Fitzy. Yeah. I already know who you are.
33:24I followed Joe. Is that – He was using that Jedi mind trick.
33:28And he's telling me Parker Washington. Yes. He's coming back around to you on Parker Washington, Fitz.
33:33I caught it. I caught it. So we're on the same page.
33:36Trevor Lawrence, you know what? The MVP thing, I don't think it's absurd.
33:40I wouldn't bet on it. But I mean he was on pace that second half of the season to be Baker Mayfield
33:47from 2024 with more rushing and rushing touchdowns. So if he got 50 combined touchdowns and 4,500 yards plus the rushing, like I could see it.
33:55But that's a lot to ask. Like do you really think Trevor Lawrence can sustain that over 17 games, which is a big question.
34:02But I wanted to bring that up, Joe, because that's part of the Parker Washington thing.
34:06I do have Parker Washington ahead of the other two.
34:09I know they're talking about Brian Thomas Jr. being healthy, which I want to pull my football back up.
34:15It's hidden back here. My Brian Thomas Jr. side of football is so excited when he was a rookie.
34:21But the problem is they're also talking about connecting deep, connecting deep, connecting.
34:25No, I don't want Brian Thomas only running 20 yards downfield.
34:28That's what killed them at the end of last year because of the hit rate of catching those.
34:33And then the opportunities for Trevor Lawrence is he's not even looking there because he's already made his first read to Parker
34:40Washington or a second read to Jacoby Myers. And then hell, Brenton Strange gets mixed in there.
34:45And then Brian Thomas is out there with a 13 percent target share.
34:49Like, I don't want to see that. Hopefully that Brian Thomas is healthy and it comes around.
34:54But that's where I come to it is right now I have Parker Washington.
34:58They're they're tightly grouped together. But I'm also OK with taking the cheapest one.
35:02But let's take it full circle and go back.
35:05What if Trevor Lawrence throws for forty four hundred forty five hundred yards and thirty five touchdowns?
35:10Guess what? All three are benefiting. So it's OK.
35:12And then you just kind of take the cheapest one anyway.
35:16So, Fitzy, I know your guy's Parker Washington because I already started off the segment where we said we tied these guys together.
35:22I want you to make your case for Parker Washington now that Jake kind of like took his little Trevor Lawrence sidebar
35:29and all the other stuff that he's done there.
35:32Is Parker Washington, you know, I think the guy that people just push aside because they don't want it to be him
35:38and they want it to be somebody else? And where are you at here with this?
35:43Because I can't think of another reason why it's not Parker Washington except for that fact.
35:48Yeah, it's people cling to draft capital. Joe and BTJ is the former first rounder and parking.
35:53Parker Washington is the former sixth rounder. But Parker Washington last year, he included the playoff game.
35:58He had almost a thousand yards, 954. And down the stretch, man, final four games of the season for the Jaguars, including
36:04that playoff loss to the Bills, averaged 6.5 catches and 113.5 yards per game with three touchdowns in those four games.
36:11And Parker Washington is just good, man. Not that big a guy, but he was actually, like, I want to say fourth
36:17in contested catches among wide receivers last year. Like, this guy is just good.
36:21And I feel like Trevor Washington or Trevor, Trevor, Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence.
36:25That's their relationship name. It's like Ben and Trevor.
36:28Trevor Lawrence. I like that. It seems like Trevor Lawrence tends to favor his slot receivers and tight ends more so than his outside receivers.
36:35And although Parker Washington and Jacoby Myers are sort of interchangeable in the slot, Parker Washington did play about half his snaps in the slot last year.
36:43So I just think he's set up really well.
36:46And right now he's got, I think, a mid to late eighth round ECR.
36:50That seems like a steal. What do you like better?
36:53Do you like Trevor Washington or Parker Lawrence? Oh, you hate my smash ups.
36:57Come on, dude. I do. I do. So it's okay when you guys do it?
37:02Parker Lawrence sounds a little more distinguished. Well, because you make them into something that's untenable.
37:06It's like you make it into Park Washington, Lauren.
37:09No, I don't. It's first lane, last name. Yes, you do.
37:12No, I don't. Go look at the article. It's first lane, last name, swapped.
37:17I don't mix them together. Nice try. Joe doesn't read my articles.
37:20I'd rather not. All right, let's go to Jake's guys here.
37:23We got one of the Jaguars out of the way.
37:26Let's talk about two rookies here on Jake's list.
37:29First, Jadarian Price and then Jordan Tyson. So we'll start with Jadarian Price.
37:33Jadarian Tyson? Jadarian Tyson, as you'd like to call him.
37:36So Price, obviously, another guy with first round draft capital, albeit at the very end of the first round.
37:41Certainly a pathway to a lot of playing time.
37:44Do you feel like this is a value now that is going to pass by at some point as people continue to
37:51look at that roster, that team, the identity of that team, and the missing pieces from that running back room?
37:57Or do you think it's actually going to hold as we get closer and closer to draft season on Price?
38:03Yeah, I think it's going to hold or man.
38:05It's going to hold. And I think the problem here is, yeah, the problem is, is like, I don't think people are
38:12understanding that even if the split stays, is what has Kenneth Walker done?
38:16Like last year was actually a disappointment for Kenneth Walker over his first three seasons, especially if you look at it from
38:222022 to 2023, 228 and 219 rushing attempts on the ground, 27 and 29 receptions.
38:27He's not a big receiver for the Seahawks offense.
38:2912.6 fancy points per game, 12.9 fancy points per game.
38:32The biggest thing that really hit him hard last year was all of a sudden.
38:37Zach Charbonnet became the goal line rusher. And that's where the real downturn came from is because you look at Kenneth Walker
38:43in that 7, 8, 9 rushing touchdown range, and it dropped off precipitously.
38:47And it was like Charbonnet at 12. And Charbonnet is probably not playing this year.
38:52Maybe shows up in December, but it's Price and Emmanuel Wilson.
38:55And Emmanuel Wilson is a nice complimentary backup piece.
38:58He's not the lead that Price can be. And I say all that to say is I'm leaning into this role kind
39:04of still staying the same because Price isn't a big pass catcher, but he is Raheem Mostert style.
39:09He is a stretch zone, which works really well here and can just hit those gaps and bust through, especially getting those goal line touches.
39:17So even if he gets 220, 230 touches and only a handful of receptions in the 20 department, if he's going to
39:23be scoring those touchdowns that are still available, I mean, you combine the two of them, Charbonnet and Walker from last year,
39:30you're talking you're pushing almost 20 touchdowns on the rushing department.
39:33I don't think he's going to get those, but if he got 9, 10, I mean, he's going to finish close to
39:40the top 15 running back, if not push the back end of the RB1 tier.
39:44But I wouldn't spend that and I wouldn't call for that.
39:47And I think that's why he should hold and stay right here as a mid low RB2, which is actually a really
39:54nice value for what he can bring with, where there's still plenty of ceiling for it to actually return your investment.
40:00All right. Pretty good argument there. What about you, Fizzy?
40:03Do you think the price is going to stay the same for Price going into this year?
40:08I think it's going to be real sensitive to what the reports are coming up out of training camp.
40:14Yeah, I could see that too. Yeah. So, I mean, if everything is glowing and there's a nice drum beat, I could see him moving way up.
40:22If it's kind of vague and there are reports, oh, it might be as much Emmanuel Wilson as Jadarin Price.
40:28I could see the Price being a little depressed on Price once we get to mid to late August when we have the bulk of our drafts.
40:36So I don't really know. No, I think Jake and I've talked about him on a lot of shows.
40:42And I think the best case for him is that it does seem like Jadarin Price is perfectly suited to the outside
40:48zone stuff that Seattle likes to run. And reportedly, it's going to be a lot of basically the same running scheme as
40:55it was last year under Clint Kubiak. I just, I don't know what the true talent is on Jadarin Price because we
41:01basically got him as a college backup behind Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame.
41:05And I don't know about Charbonnet. All of a sudden, we're getting some, and I know to fade injury optimism, but we're
41:12getting some pretty rosy reports about when Charbonnet could come back.
41:15I mean, there's even someone suggested week one, which just seems preposterous.
41:18Yeah. So yeah, I'm fading that talk, but I do worry that maybe Charbonnet comes back near the end of the regular
41:25season and kneecaps Jadarin Price a little in the most important weeks of the fantasy season.
41:30That's the biggest fear. All right. Let's talk about Jordan Tyson, because obviously this is a player with enormous talent.
41:36He flashed out of the college level, and now it's a matter of converting it over to the NFL.
41:41And look, the Saints are a team that I'm picking to win that division.
41:45I think they're the one this year that kind of surprises people and comes out of nowhere.
41:50And like this year's version of the Patriots, I don't think they get to the Super Bowl necessarily, but I think they
41:57make the playoffs and I think they actually have a good chance to win that division.
42:02I think large in part because of solidifying that run game a little bit.
42:06If you have Olave and then you can add in a guy like Jordan Tyson, that gives Tyler Shuck a lot of weapons to work with, Jake.
42:14Yeah, it really does. And I think that Tyson's actually a really good complement alongside Olave for what they can do in this offense.
42:21Tyson, I brought this up before, I don't remember if it was on this show, but a lot of like some of
42:28the Garrett Wilson similarities and also the Garrett Wilson similarities actually in the negative department coming out of college where they kind
42:34of like, Garrett Wilson started to get a lot better than that recent past two years.
42:39But Tyson, the same thing when Wilson came out, they kind of like get messy in their routes.
42:44They kind of just kind of get squirrely out there because they are so talented that they're not very precise and they
42:51still try to find these gaps, which you add that precision level.
42:54I always bring up Marquise Lee from way back in the day and Marquise Lee took so much time in the NFL
43:01to hit because he just took it lazy. And I don't think Tyson's taking it lazy.
43:06I'm just saying that that's that same kind of the talent is so good that they're not really precise.
43:11But all that being said, if you threw Garrett Wilson alongside Chris Olave in this offense, and I think that's the upside
43:18of Tyson here, is the excitement comes from can Shook just do what he did the second half of last year and
43:24take it 10% better, even maybe 20% better, 20% better.
43:27I mean, and this offense starts passing more of like a 55-60% or 55-56% of the time versus like almost a 50-50 split.
43:34I mean, you can see Shook passing for close to 4,000 yards, 30 touchdowns.
43:38And if so, it's going to benefit not just Olave repeating last year, but that second option that they haven't had for
43:45the past couple of seasons and why they traded for Devon Valle last year and tried to make him a thing is
43:51that Tyson could put up 1,000 yards and six, seven touchdowns, probably leaning more on the reception reliance than Olave.
43:57But I mean, he could be a top 25 receiver.
44:00And that's why, again, this whole theme today being what's the upside potential here, who is somebody who's pretty much been drafted
44:07as the second or sometimes even third rookie wide receiver as a wide receiver three.
44:11Fitzy, talk to me about Jordan Tyson, because I know the knock on him is the injuries, but I always come back to the same point.
44:19Yes, he did have some injuries, one of which was the collarbone that he re-injured.
44:23So maybe just never healed right the first time.
44:26So I just, I think that's a little overrated.
44:29To me, I always like when rookies land in situations like this, where they don't have to be the guy right out of the bat.
44:36I think you will get to make a booker last year in the first six weeks when Mike Evans was healthy and
44:43Baker Mayfield was healthy, how good he was. To me, that's the key a lot of times for success of the young wide receivers.
44:50That's why I like Makai Lemon so much. And that's why Tate, I think, although I think he might be the best
44:56one of the three, it's a little concerning situation for me because there's kind of that need for him to be the alpha out of the gate.
45:04But I don't see that being the case necessarily for Tyson.
45:08Do you see that to be a potential pathway for him to have early success this year?
45:13Yeah, it does seem like it's a really nice spot.
45:16Like you said, Joe, he wanted the Carnell Tate pressure of being the number one guy and maybe Carnell Tate as a
45:22result, see some of the top corners on each team he faces every week, whereas Tyson might not get that.
45:28Tyson gets to be a complimentary guy. He's got another good guy alongside him with Olave.
45:33He's got a terrific play caller and Kellen Moore, a respected play caller who also likes to go at a fast pace,
45:40which doesn't hurt because that sneaks in, you know, a few extra plays every week.
45:44I think it is a really nice setup. I like him a lot.
45:48I don't worry about injuries like the collarbone thing.
45:50There are some reports about his hamstring that are a little troubling that we'll have to monitor.
45:56But if he's full go in training camp, yeah, I totally buy Jake's upside case for him.
46:01All right, let's move on here, boys, to the late round guys.
46:04The guys that could really pop and win you a league in terms of their value and return on investment.
46:10We can not even wait for the waiver wire.
46:13We just drafted him with our last couple picks.
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47:43All right, let's talk about some of the late round guys here.
47:47Pat, let's start with you on this one here.
47:49Xavier Worthy. I know expectations were high for the big, splashy, explosive plays, but everything just kind of fell apart for the Chiefs last year.
47:57And then eventually the health of Patrick Mahomes was that death knell of that offense.
48:01Rushy Rice, host of problems. We know that. Can Xavier Worthy somehow carve out enough of a role here in 2026 to be a fantasy difference maker?
48:09I think he could be a difference maker if Rice were to miss any time.
48:14And we know Rice has not been the most durable fellow in recent years, and he is coming off this knee injury.
48:20And I think Worthy could be at least flex caliber, even with Rice playing.
48:24And right now, Worthy's ECR is 123rd overall. So he's going outside the first 10 rounds.
48:29Like, we already saw half of an excellent season from Worthy in his rookie year.
48:34And granted, there was no Rushy Rice around for that.
48:37But over a 10-game stretch from week 11 of 2024 through the Super Bowl, and I'm going to leave out the Chiefs
48:43regular season finale that year because they rested their starters.
48:46Worthy played one snap. But over the 10-game stretch besides week 18, Worthy averaged 5.8 catches, 67.9 receiving yards a game, and had six touchdowns.
48:54So he was basically producing at an 1150-yard pace, a 10-touchdown pace over that stretch.
48:58Then last year, he collides with Travis Kelsey, the friendly fire in the season opener against the Chargers.
49:03Dislocates his shoulder. Only missed a couple of games, but some people have suggested he just wasn't right for the whole season.
49:10And I kind of buy that. It's a small dude trying to play with a busted-up shoulder.
49:15So I just think he's getting sort of punished for the season he had last year, when we've already seen, like, the
49:21best of Xavier Worthy, or at least, you know, the best of it for half his rookie season.
49:27And it looked really good. So, man, for that kind of price, I think he's kind of a sneaky value.
49:33Jake, what are your thoughts on Xavier Worthy? We know he has the explosive playmaking ability, but in terms of, like, the
49:39steady target presence or, you know, being able to convert some of that big playability into fantasy points, it's been a little
49:46non-existent, I think, to start his career. Yeah. At the end of the year, they're a wide receiver 30 or 28.
49:52And you knew you were getting this roller coaster, but that's okay because they're wide receiver 3.
49:57Xavier Worthy is not going to be 17 straight games of consistency, and there's very few wide receivers that can do that anyway.
50:04But if you just understand that if he does hit and has that potential and you're along for the ride, you're going
50:10to enjoy those big weeks where he's scoring, like, the 20 points.
50:14You're just going to have to take those four-point weeks on the chin, and they're going to come.
50:19All right. Let's move on to one of your guys, Jake, in the late rounds here.
50:24Player this has talked about a lot on this program already.
50:27And if you're not going to go with one of the big-time tight ends, and there's a lot of them this year,
50:34Isaiah Likely does certainly seem like you can make a case for him being heavily involved in this offense.
50:40So let's hear your case on Isaiah Likely's path to being potentially a league winner in 2026.
50:45This is what I teased way earlier when Fitz said that the three that lead their team in targets being Loveland, Bowers, and McBride.
50:52I think there's three more that could, including Likely, Fannin, and Warren.
50:55And I would say that those other three have, like, the odds are in their favor.
51:00I think there's a legit chance that all three of those, including Likely, could be because we all keep hearing these news about Malik Neighbors.
51:07And then we see them out playing charity games, and it looks like he's walking on a half of a leg.
51:14And so whether he's 100% for week one, week four, week six, whatever it might be, even if Neighbors at some point
51:20gets to 100% and at that point is clearly the number one as he should be, Likely being the number two is likely.
51:27Let's just put it there. Like, there's a reason Harbaugh brought them in, and they've already talked them up, and they've already made plays this offseason.
51:35And everything we've heard, and this is the positive talk.
51:38To go back to something else Fitz said earlier, it's not just best shape ever.
51:42It's not just injury optimism. Everybody's making plays. They're catching versus air, like Andrew says.
51:47It's like everybody's doing great things. But what have we heard from the Giants camp?
51:51Likely looks amazing. Slayton looks iffy. Malakai Fields hasn't done anything yet.
51:55And just going down the list, and the only people they're talking about in the passing game seems to be likely so far.
52:02So if you told me he gets 110, 120 targets, 120 would be amazing.
52:06But even like 105 to 110, and he gets, and I'm throwing out this line for a very specific purpose, 8,806.
52:12You know what? 8,806 gets you at tight end?
52:15An average of the past 10 years of tight end 5.
52:18So that's the upside for Isaiah Likely. Pat, I keep hearing a lot of people talk about, well, Harbaugh brought him with him and all that stuff.
52:26Harbaugh had him for a couple years. And we didn't see a whole lot of Isaiah Likely necessarily.
52:31Or at least as much as we thought we could have seen.
52:35So a lot of Mark Andrews time in and time again and all that stuff and trying to make that work despite
52:41some of his limitations and some of his healthy issues as well.
52:45So I get it. I understand he brought him with him.
52:48But I also remember when they were together in Baltimore and it being, frankly, a little disappointing and underwhelming even when Mark Andrews wasn't available.
52:56Isaiah Likely wasn't exactly running away with that job.
52:58Right. And you would have hoped he would have smashed whenever Andrews was out.
53:02And he did have some good games with Andrews out.
53:05But I'm a little vexed by that too, Joe.
53:08And I'm not sure where to put Likely in my rankings.
53:11I'm curious, Jake. Where do you have him in relation to Travis Kelsey and George Kittle?
53:16Yeah. In front of Travis Kelsey, behind George Kittle.
53:19Okay. All right. Yeah. Right now I've got Likely behind both of those guys.
53:23But I'm not sure if that's the right call.
53:26And of course, the one game I... I'm at tight end 10.
53:29Yeah. I'm at 11. The one game, of course, that I can't get out of my mind and the possibility, like what
53:36if we saw this or something like it over a full season, is that 2024 season opener against the Chiefs when Isaiah
53:42Likely looked like Tony Gonzalez and was just making plays all over the place and almost had another touchdown catch.
53:48I think it would have been, what, his third in that game or second?
53:52Maybe second. Second in that game. Where he couldn't get the second foot inbounds, like last play of the game for the
53:59Ravens to try to win that game. But he was a monster in that game.
54:03What if we see something like that over a full season?
54:07In that case, yeah, he's way undervalued. Fitzy, you know, I actually pulled up the numbers of Likely without Mark Andrews over the years.
54:14And they're not as bad as I maybe wanted to portray.
54:17But then I dug a little deeper into the game log of them.
54:21I found it on StatMuse, which was actually pretty interesting.
54:24A bulk of it came in one game where he was 8 for 13 with 103.
54:29Like, that is a big job. That 103 accounts for four, you know, out of the 453 total yards in nine games.
54:35Was one game was 103. So, again, like, I just feel like I'm hopeful.
54:39I'm with Jake. I think if you miss out on the tight end runs or they're going too early for you and
54:46you don't like the structure of your roster in that situation, you know, with those little guys early because you miss out
54:52on running backs or wide receivers, I think it's an interesting approach.
54:56But I definitely don't think it's a lock either.
54:59But then again, nobody does. That's why it's a late pick.
55:02So I should shut up and move on to the next person.
55:05So let's do that. Let's move on to Jonathan Brooks, another guy who's getting a ton of hype this offseason.
55:11Guys had two ACL tears in the same knee.
55:14That always scares me a bit Fitzy. I know Jonathan Brooks is becoming a very buzzy player right now, but he's still very cheap.
55:21And I do understand Chuba Hubbard's injury last year plus Chuba Hubbard being a guy that's been okay, not exactly a world beater necessarily.
55:28There's certainly a path for Jonathan Brooks to have value in 2026.
55:32There is. And let's talk about those knee surgeries.
55:35And I'll tip my hat to Jeff Mueller, Mueller, I think it's Mueller, Twitter injury doc, sort of.
55:40And he has written about this and how maybe the first repair of Brooks's ACL was not done particularly well and was a little flimsy.
55:47And it sort of took him a long time to recover from that.
55:51And then he gets hurt almost right away after coming back.
55:54But then they brought in a different specialist to do the surgery.
55:58The second time around, they used something called, I guess, a double bundle technique that is supposed to improve the lateral stability
56:05and just make it a stronger overall repair. So it was kind of like not only a repair, but a revision surgery.
56:11And they're pretty confident that they've got it right this time.
56:14And they gave him an extra long time to recover, held him out the entire 2025 season.
56:19Now, by the time the season starts, it's going to be like 20 months since the last time he played.
56:25And I just think based on what we knew about him as a prospect, what we saw from him at the University
56:32of Texas, if we get peaked, Jonathan Brooks, not much doubt in my mind that that's going to be better than what the peak of Chuba Hubbard is.
56:40And Chuba Hubbard is fine. And he had that good season in 2024.
56:44But then, you know, he got usurped and replaced basically by Rico Dowdle last year, averaged 3.8 yards per carry.
56:50I just think Chuba is sort of a replacement level NFL back, just sort of an average guy, whereas Brooks could be a lot more than that.
56:58Right now, I've got Chuba, I think, one spot ahead of Brooks in my rankings.
57:03It's probably only a matter of time before I change that, even if they say Chuba is going to be the starter
57:09to open this season, because I don't think he holds off a healthy Jonathan Brooks.
57:14All right. Jake, would you take Jonathan Brooks or would you try to dabble in the Washington backfield?
57:19Because they're not that far apart from each other in terms of expert consensus ranking.
57:23Both? Why not both? I mean, if given the choice, looking at the pedigrees of all them, I would take Brooks just
57:30straight up if I couldn't have everything there that I wanted, because it is Brooks.
57:34There's a reason there's thought so highly coming out of college.
57:38And yeah, these injuries are frustrating. But we've seen this before.
57:41How Nick Chubb blew up both his knees and has come back.
57:44And I'm not calling him Nick Chubb necessarily that he's going to get to that level.
57:49But I just think the upside of a healthy Brooks, whether or not we even see Chuba 100% or falter in his
57:56own right, whichever way it goes, I think there's enough talent with Brooks that he could take over, period, if it's the
58:02Brooks we used to know, which that's the big question.
58:05Goethe, everybody. Somebody we used to know. There you go.
58:08I knew it was coming. All right. Let's talk about the last guy on the list here.
58:13I don't want to. I don't want to. All right.
58:16That'll do it for us, everybody. Thanks for hanging out with us.
58:20No, we're going to talk about him. We're going to talk about him because the first 10 weeks of last year, he was QB5.
58:27And if you want to take a late QB, why not take a shot at Daniel Jones coming off the surgery?
58:33Because my goodness, it was really good. The Colts were really good.
58:37They were leading the AFC at the time. They were the number one seed before the injury.
58:42All kind of just destroyed everything there. I'd like to see a little bit more wide receiver help.
58:47But then again, Shane Steichen, I think is a good offensive mind.
58:51I think if you're talking about maybe even super flex leagues, Jake, Daniel Jones is a really intriguing value this year.
58:57And that's really what it comes down to is even as your second quarterback as your last pick in your draft, the obvious question is the injury.
59:05The obvious question was the injury going to affect his running.
59:08But the thing is, if he is close to 100% running, I never needed and never will ask and never expect Daniel
59:15Jones to be a very good passing quarterback. That's just not who he is.
59:19And that's okay because he can be good in the short to intermediate part of the game, which Tyler Warren helps.
59:25Josh Downs helps. We saw Alec Pierce when he does unleash the deep ball of how he could connect on that.
59:31And I know Alec Pierce adds another dimension to this of whether or not he's going to be 100% for the start of the season.
59:39But if everybody is healthy, you brought up the numbers with Daniel Jones, and a lot of it has to do the
59:45fact that he's still going to run. Not like he did that one season with the Giants with 707, but he offset
59:52that by a little bit less running and a little bit more throwing better in the offense for the Colts than he was with the Giants.
60:00So you get that balance. I don't expect top five.
60:03I don't even expect top 10. But back end QB1 conversation, if a lot of things break right.
60:08But the thing here is he's free. Like you don't need to worry about it.
60:12And the biggest part is like this disclaimer for this group was who could score 150 points.
60:17And I know I'm kind of cheating by leading towards the quarterbacks.
60:21But the big thing here is that he can score 250 points plus and be QB 12, 13 on the year.
60:27So even if you take a gamble at quarterback and you want to take the second gamble on a single quarterback, I'm okay with that.
60:35Superflex, absolutely. This is how you win Superflex. If Daniel Jones for me and Superflex is the perfect look, I went wide receiver healthy.
60:42I missed the quarterback run or heavy and I missed the quarterback run.
60:46I have to start taking shots. And I understand that Daniel Jones could blow up your entire season.
60:51But if he stays healthy and you waited on quarterback, he's the type of quarterback in Superflex that you end up winning leagues with.
60:58Pretty good argument there. Fitzy, anything to add here on the Daniel Jones wing?
61:02He was a mid-range QB1 when the Colts got off to that 8-2 start.
61:06He wasn't the turnover machine he has been in some years.
61:10He wasn't taking as many sacks. Maybe he could get back to that.
61:14But we always know Daniel Jones' value is sort of tied to his mobility.
61:18What sort of mobility does he have? You know, another storyline to watch closely in the training camp in the preseason.
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62:01And clearly, here's the good news, Joe. He's excited to say this.
62:05Yeah, I'm traveling. So this is the last show in June.
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62:14Thank God. Thank God. Safe travels, Jake Seeley. Pat Fitzmaurice, I always love you the most.
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