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0:09I'm your host Matt Modai. Today we're talking about wide receivers with massive upside, joined by two legends in the industry.
0:16Erickson, we'll start with you. How are we doing?
0:18Dude, cannot be doing better. So excited to talk about these upside, high ceiling wide receivers with the two of you.
0:24It's a Friday. Tomorrow is August 1st, which means it's the last month without regular season football.
0:29Guys, there's no better time to be alive. It doesn't get much better than this.
0:34That is true. That is true. And then the other guest that we have here, Scott Bogman, not guest analyst.
0:40Sorry about that. But Scott, how are we doing?
0:42Yeah, I'm doing great, man. Ready to talk about some wide outs.
0:46It's going to be a fun one. And Erickson, do you have any Patriots in here?
0:50I don't think I have any Steelers. No homerism at all today.
0:54Look at that. I mean, the bull case on AJ Brown is just so obvious.
0:58I wanted to give the audience a little bit more.
1:01Just another Patriots homer take on why 2026 is AJB wide receiver one season.
1:05I was itchy to put Jeremy Bernard in here, but, you know, Roman Wilson's getting talked up.
1:10Can't put Bernard in there quite yet. So Roman Wilson season.
1:14Well, this is an interesting trio. I'm an Eagles fan here.
1:17So we just got everything covered from the Eagles Patriots rivalry, the Pennsylvania rivalry.
1:21We got everything. So for today's show, as we've talked about, we're talking wide receivers.
1:25First, we're going to talk about early to mid round alphas guys being taken in rounds three through six.
1:31This is half PPR by the way, just to note that.
1:34Yeah. Guys being taken in rounds three through six who can really come through for your team, despite not being in the top two rounds.
1:42Then we're going to talk about mid round upside plays.
1:44So receivers being taken in rounds seven through ten.
1:47Really trying to focus on like a scheme or coordinator change, something like that.
1:51Unlock these, these wider team. We'll unlock these players that could become wide receiver two, three for your team.
1:57And then late ground sleepers. Everybody loves a good sleeper.
2:00That's what we'll talk about at the end. And so, yeah, we'll get started mid to early to mid round alpha engines.
2:06Erickson, let's start with you. I'm going to take a guy that I know that Scott Bogman is also high on as
2:13well, but I beat him to the show sheet.
2:15So I get to include as a as my wide receiver to target in the early rounds is an extremely high ceiling
2:22because I mentioned this when I took a flowers.
2:24I think I took a flowers in the super flex mock draft that we did earlier this week.
2:30And just imagine this guy finds the end zone.
2:32Imagine if the Ravens don't rank dead last and pass rate over expectation in 2026 under a new office of coordinator, Declan
2:39Doyle, because that's really the key point to make about.
2:42Okay. Well, how does things change for a flowers?
2:44It's okay. Well, Todd Munkin is no longer calling shots here.
2:48Like it's a new office coordinator coming in young hot shot worked under Ben Johnson.
2:52And hopefully he embraces some more of Zay flower specifically in these high leverage opportunities because the talent is so clear.
2:58There was a flowers last year over 1200 receiving yards, 86 catches, just six total touchdowns.
3:03He was wide receiver seven overall in 2025, but the consistency was there every single week from him over the last five games.
3:10He was wide receiver three overall. He had at least four catches in 13 of his 17 games played.
3:15So the floor consistency is all there for him.
3:18Fifth and target share at 28%, 11th and area yard share at 35%, fourth in yards per route run behind only Puka
3:24Nakua, Jack Smith and Jigba and Luther burden. So for me, it's just trying to find the avenues.
3:30Okay. The floor has been established and we can access a potential ceiling with this office of coordinator change.
3:35Look, every other receiver that hit 1200 yards last year had eight touchdowns.
3:39The only outlier was a flowers. So for me, when I'm just looking at the talent profile, I'm so excited about him
3:45because I think he's really, really good. He's super, super explosive.
3:49He checks off every explosive metric. When you're looking at wide receivers, creating balls with the, the, the ball in their hands.
3:55He, they talked about it on the NFL top a hundred list.
3:59Every single guy that talked about Zay flowers was dude, this guy is so explosive.
4:03Right. And that matches up with all the numbers that you're looking at when it comes to what he's doing when they do throw him the rock.
4:11So he's attached to Lamar Jackson. No one would be surprised if Lamar Jackson has a bounce back season again, 6.5 career touchdown passing rate.
4:18So Lamar can throw for four touchdowns. Like we've seen it before from him.
4:22I think Zay flowers gets a little bit more here last year when he was healthy between him and Lamar Jackson over 15%.
4:2915 points per game in full PPR. That was Zay flowers.
4:32So for me, Jesse Minner, this is per the coach speak index.
4:36He was talking about how, Hey, what do you think about this NFL top a hundred list?
4:41And he said, you know, he's going to shoot himself way up this year.
4:45Zay flowers. You'd love to see that. You have to see that.
4:49And then you get Declan Doyle coming over from, uh, from Ben Johnson, see what that, uh, what he brings over.
4:55And Scott, what do you think about Zay flowers this year?
4:58Yeah, man. I mean, uh, really upset that Erickson got the sheet before me, but third in team yards, only JSN and
5:04Puka had a higher percentage of their team's yards, right?
5:07Seventh in yards per route run, ninth in yards per target, 22nd in yards per route run, second in missed tackles, fourth,
5:14eighth in missed tackles, fourth per reception, 10th in yak, 18th in yak per catch.
5:18This dude was seventh last season in PPR and 13th in points per games.
5:22He's right there at a wide receiver one. This offense is going to get more vertical.
5:27What a great selection by Erickson to start us off here.
5:30Excellent work, Erickson. I love that. And yeah, the last point is he did all that with Lamar missing a bunch of
5:37time and like having a down year for Lamar Jackson standards.
5:40So yeah, it's kind of scary what he can be.
5:43Um, so, all right. Zay flowers in agreement there.
5:45Uh, Scott, who do you like? I'm going to reach down a little bit further.
5:50I'm going to say Mike Evans, who's ADP right now is currently 61 overall.
5:54Things are not looking good for Ricky Pearsall. I'm not really buying that George Kittle is going to be ready early because
6:00Kyle you check said he looked great, right? I know we've got a little bit of that, but that's not even coach speak.
6:07That's fullback speak. Not sure if I'm buying into any of that.
6:11Kirk is down with a calf strain right now.
6:13Stribbling was a high pick, but he's a rookie.
6:16Debo will help this offense, but I really think a healthy Mike Evans is going to be extremely productive here.
6:22He's currently wide receiver 25 and outstanding option as your wide receiver three.
6:26Mike Evans was wide receiver 40 points per game, but spent most of last season with broken Baker in the second half 2024.
6:32He was wide receiver nine in total and in points per games.
6:36I don't think he can get there this season, but let's remember that Brock pretty with a healthy, not crazy.
6:42Brandon Iuke was pretty good. He ranked second in deep passing.
6:45According to PFF, he had the second highest completion rate as well on deep passes at 57.9% in 2023.
6:51Evans can add that element back to this Niners offense.
6:54And I think with a lot of volume being gone right now with Kirk being down with Kittle likely starting the season
7:00on the pup, the ghost of Debo, we don't know what he's going to do.
7:04Right. And then it's a lot of inexperience next to Mike Evans.
7:08I think, you know, this isn't Purdy's game. I don't think that they want him throwing deep a lot, but I do
7:14think that he can do it when asked. Brandon Iuke did it and he has done it successfully.
7:20And I expect a big year from Mike Evans.
7:22So you're not buying the fullback coach, coach speak index being the next big thing.
7:27No, maybe I should start it. Maybe a fullback truth index or however we're here.
7:31Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Use check. I don't know. I just, all of this Pollyannan-ness about these guys with these major injuries to
7:38try to make it to week one. I don't know.
7:41Like my homes, maybe my home seems like a freak, but Kittle playing week one after torn Achilles.
7:46It's DJ. It's weird how all of their timelines just magically aligned with week one.
7:50Exactly. Right. It's so weird. Like how all these injuries at all different times, it's like, well, is it week one?
7:56Looks like we're ready to go. So I agree with you.
8:00There's definitely a lot of optimism here as we're entering, you know, first we're getting close to August.
8:05Yeah. And with Kittle, he tours Achilles in the playoffs and he's older now.
8:09He's like, he's above 30. Yeah. It's scary. But Hey, I mean, July, August, it's a best shape of career season.
8:15It's ahead of schedule season. All that stuff is happening.
8:18So yeah. All right. Mike Evans as a Scott's first one, Erickson, what do you got next?
8:23I have Jalen Waddle for the Denver Broncos and he's someone that I have actually been kind of moving up my rankings.
8:30I'm just kind of looking at this wide receiver tier.
8:32I love this wide receiver tier, right? When you're drafting rounds three, rounds four, rounds five.
8:37It's why I think that double tapping running back makes a lot of sense, especially if you're picking at the end of
8:44round one in the traditional 12 team lead, because we love these wide receivers here.
8:48And I'm just basically listing off Fitz and I's King classics team where we got Zay Flowers in the auction draft.
8:54We got Jalen Waddle in the auction draft, both for steals, in my opinion, pairing him with Puka Nakua as the guy we spent up for.
9:02So basically just listing off my high ceiling roster, our high ceiling roster for the Kings classic.
9:07So, but for Waddle specifically, it's just the ceiling outcomes he can get to attach to an offense that's actually going to
9:13embrace throwing the football because that was not in the case last year with Miami when two was a quarterback.
9:19And then when he got hurt or when he got benched, they put Quinn yours and we just run the football basically as much as humanly possible.
9:27So Waddle was still really efficient last year. So I'm not worried about, oh, he's fallen off.
9:32He's not as good as he once was when he was younger in his career.
9:36He's still ninth in PFF receiving grade, 13th in yards per route run, was also top 12 in target rate per route run at a pretty high 26%.
9:45So we've seen him operate and perform at a very high level when Tyreek Hill has missed past games or not been at 100%.
9:52In those games, 15 game sample size, whether Hill has missed completely or has been limited in terms of snaps, Waddle has
9:58averaged seven or more targets, 68 receiving yards, and topped 82 yards in five of those 11 last games in 2025.
10:04So when I look at the Denver Broncos offense last year, they were one of the highest rated teams in terms of pass rate over expectation.
10:12Bo Nix actually led the NFL in pass attempts.
10:15It's a crazy number because you look at it and think, man, how did a team that went 14-3 lead the league in passing attempts?
10:22Well, it's because they played in so many second half comeback wins, right?
10:26They were down in the second half. So we got to throw, throw, throw.
10:30And we look at the Denver Broncos schedule. So this is per sharp football.
10:34If you look at their schedule, they have an extremely tough run out to start the year.
10:39So I think you're going to see more of the pass heavy approach with Bo Nix healthy.
10:44And I think that's why they went out and got Jay in the Waddle.
10:48So they can strike fear into opposing defenses. Also per sharp football, Denver last year, dead last in terms of receptions gained of 20 or more yards.
10:56They need to generate more explosive plays. And I think that's exactly why they traded what they did to get Jay in
11:02the Waddle, who I do think is far, far, far from washed.
11:06I think that he can still put up a fantasy wide receiver one season.
11:10He's done it before in the past, done it with volume, done it with efficiency as the number two behind Tyree kill.
11:17But as the clear cut number one in this offense, because we saw last year, Troy Franklin really eat into Cortland Sutton's target share and production.
11:24I think we're just going to see the Jay in the Waddle show.
11:28It's just a matter of if he can stay healthy and not be in the blue medical kit, like constantly, which is really frustrating.
11:35Again, as someone that's been big on Jay in the Waddle every single year, seemingly, and it has not always worked out,
11:41I'm very excited about what he can do in Denver.
11:44Yeah. A ton of opportunity for an explosive receiver there.
11:47Scott, you buying Waddle this year? Yeah. I mean, I think this is what makes the kind of the wide receiver two,
11:54three borderline here really nice is that there's a lot of really good players to pick from.
11:59And you can really take anybody out of this section and sing their praises.
12:03But Waddle is a guy that, you know, I think we're pushing Cortland Sutton down and I'm a Cortland Sutton guy, right?
12:09Loved him coming out of SMU and he was kind of learning on the job.
12:14He played safety at SMU, his first two safeties, then converted to wide receiver, got drafted as a wide receiver, became a number one rather quickly.
12:21But Waddle is, you know, one of those high recruits going to Alabama, coming out and just doing what he did in college.
12:28And I think with a good quarterback, you know, we saw the jump from Pickens last year going from Pittsburgh, where it
12:35was all subpar QB play to go to Dallas to play with the best QB that he's ever played with across any level in Dak Prescott.
12:42And we saw him blow up. I think the same could be in store for Waddle.
12:47Not that Tua is a absolute scrub or anything, but Bo Nix looks like an elite level quarterback early in his career here.
12:54So I am excited to see the ceiling for Waddle truly in Denver, specifically if they pass as much as they did last season.
13:01Yeah, for sure. Well, speaking of receivers that we love in this round, I believe you got one more for us.
13:07Yeah. Carnell Tate, uh, the fit of Tate with Ward is one of my favorite things to come out of the draft,
13:13because if you've watched Cam Ward play at any level, the dude is holding onto the ball as long as possible before
13:20he can get rid of it to try to make the big play.
13:24And that is what Carnell Tate is. He is the big playmaker, your big downfield threat, the guy that is going to break this all the way open.
13:32Obviously they're also looking for a number one target in Tennessee.
13:35Um, you know, but Tate with a quarterback like Ward and sticky coverage, more sticky coverage in the NFL.
13:41Well, it's great that he was 22 of 32 in his career, which is 68.8% in contested catch percentage and his last
13:47year at Ohio state, 12 of 14, 85.7%. The new offensive additions of, you know, Wando Robinson, I think is going to
13:54be huge in a PPR league for getting those receptions.
13:56So short receptions, but I think if you're looking at your number one target, a high guy, a guy that's going to
14:03be very high in first read percentage, he's going to make a lot of big plays.
14:08And if there are touchdowns to be had in Tennessee, I think a lot of them are going to go to Carnell Tate.
14:14So this is a guy that you can take as your wide receiver three, that could give you wide receiver two upside
14:21as the leader of his team in Tennessee. And that is what makes him a value here.
14:26Sure. Yeah. I like it. And you wonder with Cam Ward, uh, the coaching last year, we're just such a mess in
14:32Tennessee with Brian Callahan that like, you know, it's not quite going from, um, either flues to Ben Johnson, like Caleb Williams,
14:39but it's not far, it's not far from it.
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15:13And with that, we will talk about the mid round upside plays.
15:17As I mentioned, uh, both of you are going to choose to, again, uh, this is looking at ADP between around seven
15:23through 10, again, half PPR, uh, really trying to focus on like a team scheme, coordinator chains, something like that.
15:29Unlock weekly wide receiver two, three ceilings. Uh, Scott, we'll start with you this time.
15:34Uh, who you got for us for this one.
15:36Yeah, it's Marvin Harrison and I have been critical and I've been clipped and quoted as not liking Marvin Harrison, but I
15:43think what people missed when I said, look, I, and I said this about 2026, this was a dynasty take.
15:49If Marvin Harrison isn't good in 2026, I think we need to be done for him, done with him for 2027 and
15:55beyond, because we're just going to make another excuse.
15:58It's going to be a while. They're going to get a real quarterback this year and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
16:04Look, if Marvin Harrison can't make it work with anybody in three seasons, and he, I think might be done with him, but I expect him.
16:11And this is the part that didn't get clipped.
16:14I expect him to have the breakout this year.
16:17Right. And, uh, it's because you're bringing in a whole new offense.
16:20Right. And I understand a lot of people like Michael Wilson and Michael Wilson was good with Jacoby preset in particular, but
16:27how many of these games is Jacoby reset going to start?
16:30I think they're going to at least give the last five or six games to Carson Beck at the end of the year.
16:37And Carson Beck has been looking really good. All the reports are good about him.
16:41I'm not going to sit here and gush about Carson Beck, but everyone is playing for second behind Trey McBride in this offense.
16:48Right. But Marvin Harrison has already been said he's going to be the wide receiver in 13 personnel.
16:53He's playing ahead of Michael Wilson, even with his cramps the other day.
16:57And everyone was worried about that. He still played in more snaps in that, uh, you know, camp scrimmage than Michael Wilson did.
17:04I think this is going to be the breakout.
17:06I know he didn't work well with, with preset, but, uh, I think it's going to be a lot of Beck.
17:13I think this is the year to do it.
17:15And this offense really can open up if the offensive line can be fixed.
17:19If we can find a viable white, uh, quarterback here, is it preset behind a better offensive line with a better run game with Jeremiah love?
17:27Maybe. Could it be Carson Beck coming in here?
17:30Everyone disrespect him from Georgia. I understand that, but he goes to Miami.
17:33He turns the turnover machine off. So he had way less at Miami than he did at Georgia.
17:39And he brought his team all the way to the national championship.
17:42There's a little purdy niche to Carson Beck here.
17:45Just don't ask him to do too much. Let him throw to these amazing skill position players, hand the ball off to
17:51Jeremiah love a bunch, toss it to him short.
17:54And this offense can hum and they're going to need to score points because the defense still sucks.
17:59They have a lot of work to do on the defense is not fixed by any, by any measure quite yet, maybe
18:06better than last year, but not good overall. So they're going to have to score points.
18:10I think Harrison takes a new step in a new offense and he might get a new quarterback sooner rather than later.
18:17So I think a lot of signs point to a potential breakout for Marvin Harrison, but this is it.
18:22This is the last string I am giving Marvin Harrison.
18:25If he is not good after this year, I think I got to be out.
18:30Last chance you for, for Marv Erickson. What do you think?
18:33Year three breakout for a Marvin Harrison jr. I don't know if we're going to see any breakouts on the Arizona Cardinals.
18:39Like that's my biggest concern. I know we had breakouts last year with Michael Wilson, obviously Trey McBride melted faces, but right already established himself the year before.
18:48So that wasn't as much as a breakout, more of just like, Hey, this guy just ran so hot, finally scored touchdowns.
18:54Most passes in the NFL by a lot. Yeah.
18:57Yeah. Right. No handholding with Bo Nix, right. Just, you know, who was throwing the most passes last year.
19:02Now the thing with Harrison for me is when going back to the environmental factors, I know that we talked about this
19:09on, I think it was a show that we also did box together, where it was like Marvin Harrison jr.
19:15Versus Roma dunze and talking about who has a higher ceiling.
19:18And if you just kind of be player agnostic and just look at, do you want someone on the bears?
19:24You want someone on the Cardinals? Like which offense is more likely to just produce a monster performance that, Oh, who could
19:30forget that that player was that good this year?
19:33I'm not, I'm leaving the door open for Marvin Harrison jr.
19:36To be better because I mean, the first two years have been really disappointing and something that I've been looking more at
19:43as I've been looking at some past historical ADP, trying to find certain trends of, well, what is the market telling us
19:49about these certain players is it's not a very good indication when a wide receiver has fallen in ADP for three straight seasons.
19:56Like that is not a claim of, Oh, this is a bounce back opportunity.
20:00This is no, like this is going in the wrong direction.
20:03And when you look at year three players, when you talk about year three players, you're talking about players that are on the ascend.
20:10Does Marvin Harrison jr. Feel like an ascending player.
20:13He feels like a player that we're just trying to hold out for hope for like that.
20:18That's what gets me concerned. And this is like, I thought about all this stuff before this drop crap was coming out again, everything.
20:25Yeah. Like I'm not, I'm not focused on that.
20:27Like I'm not trying to pile on or the quotes that he was like, he's losing his confidence.
20:33Like I don't really care about that stuff. I'm looking specifically at historical data when it comes to players with this type
20:39of profile, it has not been beneficial to buying the dip on this player.
20:43And in fact, it more likely continues to decline.
20:46So I do think Harrison jr. Can be better this year, but is it a point where he has a top five fantasy ceiling?
20:53I don't know if that's going to exist with it in the context of the Arizona Cardinals.
20:58So again, I'm not trying to rain on, um, box pick here, but again, Marvin Harrison jr.
21:03He's, he's a player. I've had a lot of trouble just feeling really confident about clicking and any kind of drafts I've
21:09been doing this off season so far. Yeah. It's, it's the offense.
21:13It's the change in the offense that I am looking forward to.
21:16Uh, and like I said, everyone's playing for the second fiddle fiddle behind Trey McBride, of course, but 31st among wide receivers
21:23in a half point ECR here, a couple of the guys behind him.
21:27I know you're, you would take Parker Washington over him.
21:30Yes. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. What about Alec Pierce?
21:33Alec Pierce, I have ranked below cause I'm worried about him coming off of his injury.
21:37So I would be BTJ. Marv DK Metcalf. I don't want, I want no part of DK.
21:42So again, like I think Harrison jr. Especially with him likely to fall again.
21:46I'm not saying he can't be drafted, but in terms of, Hey, top five, top 10 ceiling.
21:51I don't, I don't know. Yeah. Top 10 ceiling might not be it, but I do think he could be a wide receiver too.
21:58Uh, that's being drafted as a wide receiver three right now.
22:02And that, that is what, and he hasn't broken out.
22:05Like there's a lot left in there, but is it really in there?
22:08I think that's fair. Right. And the, the declining ADP is bad.
22:12I agree with you there, but I do think that now that he's at a proper, uh, ADP, how he's finally, maybe he could be a value.
22:20Finally, maybe he can be a wide receiver three, like where he's approached appropriately.
22:24Yeah. Look, this is it for him. I'm saying, but I, I, I am the dummy putting on the makeup, you know,
22:30like the Kyle pits group going, you know what?
22:33This is the year. Oh, I mean, this is the year.
22:36Well, wait, basically with Kyle pits, it was once everyone was finally done a hundred percent, then he hit.
22:42So yeah, everybody, but fits fits was the only guy in last.
22:45Yeah. Well, week 15, Kyle pits. I mean, everybody's going to remember whatever that week that was 15, 16, never was everybody remember that.
22:52Uh, well one receiver that that was mentioned Parker Washington, I believe you have some thoughts on him Erickson.
22:58Yeah. Parker Washington was kind of my big takeaway player.
23:01When I went in, it's on Fanny Sprows right now, identifying first time wide receiver ones.
23:06And Parker Washington was the player that really stood out to me the most when it comes to the boxes and thresholds
23:12that I'm looking for, for a player poised to make that leap to be a top 12 fantasy receiver for the very first time.
23:19Something that I've looked at is players that are efficient after the catch, while also seeing far targets down the field, because
23:26you think intuitively it's harder for those players, right?
23:28If you're seeing a lot of downfield targets, it's just harder for you to generate yards out to the catch.
23:34Well, Parker Washington was top 30 in both those categories last year in both yards out to the catch and average depth of target.
23:41He was also very good at converting his air yards into actual receiving yards ranked fifth in racer, which is that metric.
23:48So for me, it's year four players. We saw three of these guys breakout last year for the very first time between
23:54Pickens, Chris Olave, and, um, who's the last guy that did it?
23:58Uh, Chris Olave, George Pickens, Jameson Williams, Jameson Williams, Michael, it was his third year, Michael Wilson.
24:03Um, but again, that year four breakout archetype, we've seen him obviously thrive in the slot.
24:07That is where we've seen a ton of production going back to Chris Godwin and Liam Cohen's offense with the Tampa Buccaneers.
24:14Chris Godwin before his injury was a top three scoring fantasy wide receiver, just absolutely on fire before he went down with an injury.
24:21Trevor Lawrence and Parker Washington, they have a connection, right?
24:24Parker Washington has been on the Jaguars for a long time with Trevor Lawrence as the quarterback.
24:29And I remember reading things coming out of Jags camp where the team, even before Liam Cohen was there was really excited
24:35about Parker Washington taking over after the team was going to be done with Christian Kirk.
24:40And I think it got delayed a little bit because the Jaguars obviously go out and draft Travis Hunter.
24:45They play him in the slot to start the year.
24:48He obviously goes down, but then once Parker Washington was put into that starting role, I mean, it was wheels up weeks
24:55nine through 18, 14.2 points per game led the team in area yards, 32% area yard share average 73 receiving yards per
25:01game, 2.8 yards per run, 25% target rate, just like pretty insane bonkers number, 24 year old player.
25:07So I get the hesitation behind it because there's so many mouths to feed in this Jaguars offense.
25:12You know, Travis Hunter are going to like hurt his bottom line.
25:15If he just plays even a handful of snaps on offense, still it's taking away targets from a player that also operates from the slot.
25:23Can BTJ return to his rookie year form? And I know that Boggs and I both agree that Jacoby Myers is just like underrated across the board.
25:31But when you look at the ceiling play, I think that it is Parker Washington based on the fact that he has gelled so well with Trevor Lawrence.
25:39We saw in the second half of last season.
25:41And if he wasn't a sixth round draft pick, I think we would be much higher on it.
25:47If he had been a day two pick around three, round two guy, I don't think there would be hesitation.
25:53Like, Oh, well, how good is he really? I think he showed us last year, how good he can be.
25:59And last point I want to make is again, a lot of his production came with guys were injured.
26:04This was a case that was used against Amon Ross St.
26:07Brown and during his second season where he only did it because everyone got hurt.
26:12Well, there's plenty of guys. Trust me, I've been there playing DFS.
26:15Oh, I'm going to play this guy bottom salary because everybody's out.
26:19And then they just go out and just lay a goose egg and they do absolutely nothing.
26:24It is not a guarantee that guys produce when another teammate misses time.
26:28So again, it's not an apples to apples comparison compared to the sun god, but something that I just wanted to keep
26:34in mind that, Hey, give credit where credit is due.
26:37He smashed. They're really excited about him. And again, to quote the coach speak, Greg Branos does a great job.
26:43Go make sure you go subject to his discord.
26:45But for him, he talked about how Liam Cohen, Parker Washington is the first man in the building.
26:51He is a 5am grinder. That's where he's going.
26:53So I think this guy is going to get paid sooner rather than later.
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29:13Yeah, definitely some value in Jacksonville this year. Because I feel like the guys aren't really going that high, considering how well the offense did last year.
29:21Scott, you went on Parker Washington. Anybody else in Jacksonville that you think might take away some of those targets?
29:27So this is how I recently compared the Jacksonville Jaguars scenario to something in my life.
29:31You ever go into a casino, right? And you see the games that you don't know how to play at all.
29:37And you watch somebody else play. That's what I'm doing with the Jaguars situation this year.
29:42I'm acting like it's Baccarat, right? Like, I don't know what to do here.
29:46I'm just going to watch somebody else play and watch on the sideline.
29:50I can't figure out an appropriate level to jump in on the Jaguars.
29:54Because I think Parker Washington has the most upside, right?
29:57But BTJ is going to play in 13 personnel.
29:59How much 13 personnel are we using since we drafted Borkature and Cozyall and extended Brenton Strange?
30:04Jacoby Myers came in and played more snaps than Parker Washington.
30:08They're keeping Parker Washington as the punt returner, which is something you typically don't do with some of your best weapons on offense.
30:14So it all looks like a Ouija board to me.
30:17And I don't know how it works. So I have been basically just avoiding.
30:21I think I have every Jaguars wide receiver under ECR, except I'm right on ECR for Jacoby Myers at 44.
30:27So I'm probably just not going to be. I'm going to draft T-Law a bunch, but that's probably going to be it.
30:34Yeah, the answer could just be Trevor Lawrence. That could very well be the answer.
30:38But yeah, we did talk about Liam Cohen's slot receiver from 24.
30:42Still on the Buccaneers, Chris Godwin. Scott, I believe you have some thoughts on him.
30:46Yeah, same deal as Mike Evans. But Godwin is wide receiver, the first wide receiver for at 37 right now.
30:52He's another year removed from that brutal, broken fibula.
30:55The Bucs moved on from Mike Evans in favor of the rookie, Bucca Godwin and Jalen McMillan.
31:00But let us not forget that Chris Godwin had a stretch of three state seasons with at least 83 catches and 1,023
31:06yards before the broken fibula in 2024. All reports indicate that he was sharp and smooth coming back in OTAs.
31:12I expect him to be much closer to the prime Godwin than, you know, the guy that we saw last year who really came back too soon.
31:20Another thing that we're talking about with these Pollyanna injuries, right?
31:23A lot of times you rush these guys back too soon and they do not work out.
31:28I feel like that is exactly what happened with Chris Godwin last season.
31:32But he's not ancient. He just turned 30 in February in that stretch of, you know, the 83 and 1,023 minimum.
31:38He's finished as wide receiver 17, 20 and 31.
31:41So never below a wide receiver three at any point and a wide receiver two in 21 and 22.
31:46And that was because he was low in touchdowns because that was when Mike Evans had 33 touchdowns in that stretch.
31:52And I believe Chris Godwin had 10 and he's gone.
31:55So, you know, I think, and I have a Buka ranks higher.
31:59I do, you know, there's some camps of that are way in love with Chris Godwin and think he's going to be
32:05the number one wide receiver on the bucks. I'm not quite there.
32:09I think it's going to be a Buka. But I do think that another year removed from this injury with no Mike
32:15Evans, I think his reception and his touchdowns are going to improve exponentially this season from what they were last year because he's not dealing with that.
32:23He doesn't have Mike Evans to deal with. So I just think there's a lot of volume that is going to be moved towards Chris Godwin this season.
32:32And we've seen him handle it before and handle it well.
32:35Liam Cohen loves Chris Godwin. And I think him being healthy is a part of the reason they were they walked on Mike Evans.
32:42And I know Mike Evans was frustrated specifically last year.
32:45You could see it. I think it was week 15 where he was throwing his hands up and it looked like he
32:51was about done with his Bucks adventure. But I think Chris Godwin will have a great year.
32:56And we know that scorched earth Baker Mayfield is a fun thing to watch.
33:00And we are going to get it this season.
33:03Yeah. Coming off of the disappointing last year where he was I feel like he had like seven injuries last year starting early than the contract situation.
33:11So, Erickson, no, you're not in on the Baker and the Bucks this year?
33:15No, I mean, I was like sighing because he was so banged up last year.
33:19And you know, yeah, yeah, more about it. If you guys have been watching the quarterback documentary on Netflix, I think it was like week four, week five.
33:28His bicep is just like totally black and blue after a hit.
33:31He played in the Jets game. So that was like really early in the season.
33:35And then we get way more injuries he's playing with.
33:38And that coincided with a Buka's dramatic fall off in the second half of the season.
33:43So agreed. You want to be high on these Buccaneers players, I think, relative to their ADP because Baker Mayfield, when he's
33:50an underdog, when he's being counted out, when he's playing for a contract.
33:53Man, the Buccaneers are definitely rolling the dice because they're taking a big risk, but they're also guaranteeing we're going to get production from quarterback this year.
34:01And then it's just a matter of can Baker stay healthy, right?
34:05I think that's the reason why they haven't signed him into a long term deal yet is because, hey, man, you play
34:11like your hair's on fire and we love it.
34:14But from a contractual standpoint as an organization, if we're going to sign you for a multi-year deal, you've got to show
34:20you can stay healthy and take care of your body, which, again, the way he plays recklessly a little bit at times, it's part of his game.
34:28It's part of what makes him Baker Mayfield. And it's going to be fun to watch him suit up on Sundays for sure.
34:35Yeah, for sure. All right, we got one more wide receiver.
34:38Erickson, take us home. I'm also going with another rookie wide receiver.
34:42I'm really glad that Boggs did bring up Cardinal Tate earlier in the show because he was someone I was also really considering.
34:49But I went one step down to a player going a little bit cheaper with Jordan Tyson.
34:54But both players were drafted inside the top 10 as rookies.
34:57I think that this is just a glaring mistake in the market right now where you're looking at just average production of receivers that are drafted top 10.
35:05Last five drafts averaged 78 catches over 1,000 yards and 6.4 touchdowns as rookies.
35:09That means that just based on averages, Cardinal Tate and Jordan Tyson are screening values where they're going right now just to meet expectation.
35:16And then you have the potential of, oh, well, if this guy is just the next Jefferson or Chase or one of those types of players.
35:24And I'm not saying that's exactly how these things shake out.
35:27But these rookies have unknown potential. Like we don't know how they're going to do.
35:31But I feel really confident about Jordan Tyson when he is healthy.
35:35Again, eighth overall pick this last year to the New Orleans Saints.
35:38It's nine healthy games in 2025. Second in the nation in targets.
35:42Absolute dominant target share at 35%. We know the injuries have obviously held him back.
35:46But so far, at least at the start of training camp, he's out there.
35:51The hamstring doesn't seem to be bothering. So I was retweeting, setting up the prayer emojis because I'm like, yes, we have someone.
35:57We don't have a Ricky Pearsall kind of incident here going on.
36:01Jordan Tyson is out there and he's healthy so far.
36:04And when I look at offenses that could take that next step, well, the Saints are one of those teams.
36:10Tyler Shuck helped Chris Olave break into the fantasy wide receiver one territory for the very first time in his career.
36:16And he only played half of last season. And last year before Rashid Sheet was traded to the Seahawks, he and Chris
36:22Olave were both seeing a ton of volume. They were combining for 17 targets per game.
36:27Shahid, alongside Olave last year before he got traded, was 15th in the NFL in wide receiver targets.
36:32So although Jordan Tyson is the number two on this offense, I think the number two on this offense is still going to see a ton of volume.
36:40So combining that as an elite wide receiver prospect, someone I think is going to gel stylistically very well with what Tyler Shuck does.
36:47I'm really excited. And when you just look at the schedule, right, for the Saints, two really tough matchups to open the year.
36:54But on the road at Detroit against a very leaky secondary that still has injuries from last year.
36:59You better draft Jordan Tyson because it may not take him very long for everyone to know him after week one.
37:06Or trade for him after those first two tough weeks if you don't even draft him.
37:10Well, I mean, week one should be really good.
37:13Again, playing at the Lions in a game that should be pretty high scoring.
37:17Yeah. Excited. Yeah, cool. All right. So last, the last segment we have here, late round league breakers.
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37:58So I think everybody loves talking about sleepers. That's the last segment that we have here.
38:02Two receivers each taken outside of the top 10 according to, again, half PPR ECR.
38:07Erickson, we'll start with you on this one. So the reason I didn't include Cardinal Tate on my list was because I included his teammate, Wanda Robinson here.
38:15And this just seems like such a bad, like, high-ceiling player.
38:18It's Wanda Robinson. All he does is he's a PPR slot merchant.
38:22Like, there's no upside attached to him. And that's kind of how I felt earlier this offseason.
38:27But when you just look at how productive Wanda Robinson has been in Brian Dable offenses, there are not that many guys
38:33that have had at least 130 targets in back-to-back seasons, two consecutive seasons.
38:37That list is Jamar Chase, Amon Ross St. Brown, Jackson Missingigba, Justin Jefferson, and Wanda Robinson.
38:42Right? I mean, like, come on. Like, I get that not all targets are created equally.
38:46And a lot of it was just, like, spamming, especially in 2024.
38:50It was just a lot of spamming underneath targets for Wanda Robinson.
38:53But last year, we saw him actually use a little bit more downfield.
38:57His average up to target nearly doubled. He was 19th in the NFL in deep targets.
39:02So I think he can do a little bit more.
39:05And he was rewarded handsomely by the Tennessee Titans that we need to get weapons for our number one wide receiver or
39:11for our number one quarterback in Cam Ward. Now, they took him in free agency.
39:16They obviously drafted Cardinal Tate. But the thing that I didn't realize until just kind of diving more into it was Wanda
39:22Robinson had over 130 targets in an offense when Malik Nabors was a rookie.
39:26So, and he was still a fantasy wide receiver.
39:29He was a wide receiver 41, but he still caught over 92 passes.
39:33He's done that for two consecutive seasons. And now he's going later than he did that year in 2024 when Cardinal Tate,
39:39another rookie, is also his main competition for targets.
39:42And maybe you guys would disagree with me. I don't think Tate is anywhere near the prospect that Malik Nabors is.
39:48I understand that they're both top picks. But I think that Wanda is just kind of being undervalued a lot.
39:54And I get it's because they brought in Tate.
39:56But if Tate is not an alpha number one Malik Nabors-esque player, then there's a scenario where Wanda Robinson just becomes the
40:03number one target leader in this offense, because that's exactly what has been the case when Brian Dable has been calling the
40:09shots, who's the new offensive coordinator in Tennessee. So this was something that kind of came to light when I was doing
40:16my wide receiver one breakout articles where Wanda was pretty close last year.
40:20Now, he was on the cusp. He was a top 15 guy, especially in full PPR.
40:24That didn't quite crack the top 12, but he checks off a lot of boxes of that player on a new team,
40:31becoming a wide receiver one for the very first time.
40:34Very reminiscent of when Christian Kirk went to the Jacksonville Jaguars and everyone was like, why did they sign Christian Kirk?
40:40What are they doing? And then he just had a monster season.
40:43So if Carl Tate doesn't hit right away or takes him a little bit of time, I think Wanda Robinson going as wide receiver 50.
40:51I think that again, if I had to make a lock for who's going to beat their ADP no matter what, it would be Wanda Robinson.
40:58Yeah, Scott, I know you're on tape, but what do you think about Robinson as well?
41:03I have Wanda at 39. So I got crushed last year for two takes, right?
41:07Two Giants takes. It was Wanda and Cam Scadaboo.
41:10So look, I had bad takes last year. I'm not going to sit here and say that everything I said was correct, right?
41:17But I got crushed in the comments for those.
41:20And they both worked out well. And the thing about Wanda was our boy Sealy specifically gave me crap.
41:25He said, how much more can he do? And I was like, why do I need him to do any more?
41:31I don't need him to do any more. I need him to do what he did in 2024, in 2025.
41:37And in the Brian Dayball offense, the tight end is the safety blanket.
41:41And I think that Ward and Tate complement each other perfectly.
41:44Here we have the deep threat in Tate and the dominant threat in Tate.
41:48You have that underneath safety blanket. Grab it and go Wanda Robinson target.
41:52So this is exactly what Dayball wants. This is why I brought him.
41:56So I think Wanda fits perfectly. He already knows the whole system.
41:59And I think as long as Ward is as good as I thought he was going to be coming in, I think
42:06this is going to be a success again. Boggs, would you be opposed to taking both Tate and Wanda in the same team?
42:13Knowing that, okay, maybe if Tate starts slow in any capacity, but you have Wanda to kind of be the guy that
42:19kind of guides you along the way. And then Cardinal Tate is your second half smash when he starts to get a
42:26little bit more accustomed to the NFL. Because I'm really open to doing that because they're both underpriced based on what I'm
42:32expecting from this Titans passing game, especially with Cam Ward in year two.
42:36It's not, I don't like doing that in general, but it's not the worst stack I've ever heard of.
42:41And it's not, you know, sometimes you run into bi-week issues if you have two guys at the same position on the same team.
42:48But I, no, I don't have like, I'm not fighting against it.
42:52I can tell you that much. I love Wanda.
42:55I think Tate is going to pop out here.
42:57So I am absolutely on board with that. All I'm hearing is Cam Ward's sleeper quarterback this year.
43:03And if you're like guillotine league, something like that, maybe Cam Ward.
43:06Very much so. But all right. Yeah, Scott, what do you got for us?
43:10How about Jaden Higgins? Jaden Higgins' ADP is 150.
43:13I am at 121 overall. He was wide receiver 29 after week eight.
43:17And that was with only three games of over 70% snap share.
43:20In that stretch, he had 10 games. He finished as a wide receiver three twice, a wide receiver two four times, and
43:27a wide receiver one once ninth in championship week.
43:29The Texans have three new starting offensive linemen and lots of depth on that line now.
43:34That was obviously the problem last season. An improved run game with David Montgomery should make Stroud look way better.
43:40Della is back, but Kirk is gone. And we know Nico Collins has this sordid injury history.
43:45Higgins has been highlighted as the Texans standout early through camp.
43:48D'Amico Ryan said he is a guy that can make plays at every level.
43:52He can move around the formation. And he is already seeing a second year jump for Jaden Higgins.
43:57I think coming in, we were kind of, okay, which Iowa State guy is it going to be?
44:03Because you took Nico Collins Jr., Jaden Higgins, on the same team as Nico Collins.
44:07It looked like that slot role was going to be in way more need.
44:11So Jalen Knoll, I feel like last season going in, got a little more love than Jaden Higgins did.
44:17But obviously got beat by Christian Kirk for that role.
44:20Didn't play a lot. And Higgins was in there after, you know, Nico went down and Xavier Hutchinson was banged up after that as well.
44:27So we saw a lot of Jaden Higgins. I think he's going to take a big step this year.
44:33I think this offense is going to be better.
44:35What you really want from Higgins is scores. He's a big frame guy.
44:39He can score a lot of touchdowns. And I think they are going to improve on offense specifically because the line is better.
44:46And, you know, I know they're going to be running a lot in the second half.
44:51But, you know, I think Higgins can score touchdowns, which is exactly what you're going to want from him.
44:56Sure. Yeah, Erickson, I want to get your thoughts.
44:59But, Scott, I'm just wondering, did you adjust your ranking slightly when you saw CJ Straub walking into camp, looking like he
45:05was like a 13-year-old showing up to middle school for the first time?
45:09You know what? Fair enough. Erickson, you in on Jaden Higgins or you think it's going to be a second-year receiver, Jalen Knoll?
45:16Well, Knoll's on the NFI list right now. He's dealing with a finger injury.
45:20And it does concern me that from a Knoll perspective, if you want to be bullish on Knoll, that does he have
45:26some overlap in terms of Tankdale skill set? Because it seems like the team is ready to at least put Tankdale back out there.
45:33I don't know in what capacity if he's going to be a full-time player just because he's coming off some of these
45:40brutal injuries and he's an undersized player as well.
45:43So, I think that does kind of hurt the ceiling a little bit for Knoll, who I do agree.
45:48I think he's still a really talented guy, but just so annoying last year.
45:52They were playing him behind Christian Kirk for so long.
45:55And even last year, too, with Xavier Hutchinson. Get this guy off the field.
45:59Like, this guy is a net negative for this entire offense.
46:02I get that he's a grinder. They like his blocking.
46:05But if CJ Stroud is dropping back to throw, you've got to get him as best receivers out there.
46:11And that does not include Xavier Hutchinson. So, Jaden Higgins, I think, right now is probably being drafted where his floor is.
46:17I can't necessarily guarantee that he'll hit the ceiling because we just haven't seen the elite version of CJ Stroud.
46:23But if that guy returns at any point, then Jaden Higgins has a ton of upside, especially if there's an injury to
46:30Nico Collins, where, to Bogg's point, he's Nico Collins Jr.
46:33So, if he's in that Nico Collins role, okay, now you're looking at a player that we would be ranking as a
46:39top 20, maybe even top 15 guy on a week-to-week basis.
46:42So, you have his standalone role, which I think is going to at least provide return on where you draft him in the wide receiver 50 range.
46:50And then you have that contingent upside. You know, if Collins does come up a little bit after a route hurts his
46:57hamstring or something like that happens, then I think that you're cooking with gas here.
47:01And we're getting CJ Stroud entering his second season.
47:04We were drafting three Texans receivers inside the top 30.
47:07Three. Three. Between Tank Dell, Stephon Niggs, and Nico Collins.
47:10And obviously, it was a disaster because they all got injured and it was just a total mess.
47:15But at least shines a light on there is that ceiling case with Stroud coming back and returning to that rookie year form.
47:22And Higgins would be a great benefactor. Maybe Higgins is the reason why you get to see CJ Stroud return to that form.
47:28And this team has to draft Rocco Beck next year.
47:31He works with everybody. It's the whole Iowa State offense.
47:34Yeah. He knows where the bathrooms are. He'll know the facility.
47:38That would be great. Yeah. Just would have fallen from grace.
47:41Bobby Slowick, CJ Stroud after that rookie year. Everybody thought they were going to take over the league.
47:46And yeah, since then. But all right, Erickson, what else you got for us?
47:50I'm going with my favorite sleeper going really, really deep in drafts.
47:54Trey Harris for the Los Angeles Chargers. So he is wide receiver 74 in ADP.
47:58And this was a cool stat I found from my, again, another humble plug, the wide receiver identifying breakout receiver article.
48:04Go for checking out on Fantasy Pros. We've averaged at least one new wide receiver one from outside the top 50 receivers
48:11in ADP in each of the last three seasons.
48:13So as crazy as it seems that a wide receiver one top 12 finisher would come this late outside the top 50,
48:20it's actually happening like once per year. So you actually have to kind of look and see, well, could I paint the
48:26case for a player like this doing that? And for me, Trey Harris, the reason he looks like that potential player is
48:33this Michael Daniel offense coming into the Los Angeles Chargers.
48:36We're all excited, right? That's why these Chargers players are going up and up and up in ADP.
48:41And look, I don't disagree with the order of the receivers being drafted.
48:45Goes Ladd, goes QJ, and then goes Trey Harris.
48:47But if you asked Harbaugh, right? Hey, do you think that these ADPs make sense with these Chargers receivers?
48:53I bet he would say like, they should all be the same.
48:57Like these guys, I love all these guys. I'm just like, I love all my kids.
49:01So he would probably look at it a little bit differently.
49:04And I think that just at least creates the idea of some value on Trey Harris as, okay, didn't do a ton as a rookie.
49:12But the offense last year for the Chargers at times was broken.
49:15Again, Justin Herbert was broken. The offensive line was broken.
49:18So I don't think Trey Harris really had a chance to showcase a lot of what he did at Ole Miss.
49:24But he was great coming out of Ole Miss.
49:27Super elite in yards per round run. Second round pick.
49:30So that he can be a deep threat. He can take the top off the ball.
49:35I think that the way that they talk about him, they really love his run blocking.
49:39I think that at least gives him an avenue of snaps and playing time.
49:43And once he gets on the field, I mean, all bets are off.
49:47Because we just know this offense is going to be in scoring position more often than not.
49:52So for me, Trey Harris, I think he's a free bet, a cheap access point to this high-powered Chargers offense.
49:58I think he'd have more of an expanded role than many of us are thinking.
50:03And maybe just one injury away from, hey, no, he's our guy in our heavy tight end personnel.
50:08Like he's our isolate X receiver. And that can give him a lot of opportunities.
50:12So for me, Trey Harris, where he's going. Yeah, I love him as one of my favorite sleepers this year with a high upside.
50:19Yeah, the Chargers offense in general is interesting. Going from Groman to McDaniel, getting Slater and Joel back.
50:25It's hard to really put numbers on that looking at last year to this year.
50:29So Scott, what do you think about Chargers this year and Trey Harris specifically?
50:33Here's a number I like. 122 targets gone from Keenan Allen, right?
50:37So there's a lot more upside here for these pass catchers this season with all of those targets from Keenan Allen gone to the wayside.
50:44So Trey Harris, you know, a lot like I talked about the fit with Carnell Tate and Cam Ward.
50:50When Justin Herbert got a dude like Trey Harris, who is an amazing deep threat at Ole Miss.
50:55Like him and Jackson Dart really connected very well at Ole Miss.
50:58If anybody knows the way that Justin Herbert works with the football, with these rainbow passes, this is something that is going to create some amazing highlights.
51:06Even if Trey Harris doesn't pan out as we think he does, there's going to be some highlights in there of some
51:13gorgeous deep balls to Trey Harris this season. So a lot there, you know, the Pollyannan-ness of every single player in this offense.
51:19You know, Brendan Thompson thinks QJ is going to light the world on fire.
51:24Brendan Thompson is, you know, the fastest ever and he's going to be the next Tyree kill and all that stuff.
51:30I calmed down on that a little bit. But I think the guy who is going to take the biggest step is
51:36definitely going to be Trey Harris any way you cut it.
51:39Right? Could he pass QJ? I have no doubt that he could pass QJ in this offense.
51:44I mean, that's what I thought was going to happen last year.
51:48I was like, you know, last year you have Keenan Allen, you have QJ.
51:52Like these guys have been in this system for a while.
51:55This system is new to everybody now. Right? So who fits better for Mike McDaniel and who has the better skill set in Trey Harris and QJ?
52:03I think we know QJ has done this before and has looked better.
52:07And we know the one flaw in him is catching the football.
52:11But I always go back to one of my favorite lines in Apollo 13 when they're trying to figure out what they
52:17can turn on and off when they're using the power.
52:20And he goes, we'll cut the parachute something. He goes, John, if the parachutes don't go off, what is the point of all of this?
52:27And that is QJ. Hey, you know, you know, drops don't matter until they do.
52:32Right? I don't care about the occasional drop. Drops in camp don't matter.
52:35When you get yanked off the field because of your drops, that's when it matters.
52:40And I think QJ is one of the guys that we all look at and go, two or three in a game.
52:46And they're yanking him right out for a guy like Trey Harris.
52:50You know, as Tony Romo taught us, it is a meritocracy.
52:53You have to merit staying on the field. So, and in the driver's seat.
52:57Sure. Well, a couple notes. I have Thompson in the dynasty league that I just drafted in.
53:02So if he ends up turning into every kill, I'm okay with that.
53:06But I'm just curious. What do you guys think about that?
53:09What do you guys think about that? I know he didn't come up in this show at all, but the new offense
53:16and how good he was his rookie year to how disappointing he was last year.
53:20Obviously, Keenan and I don't have a lot to do with that.
53:24I'm just, just from my own curiosity. What do you guys think about that?
53:28I really like that a lot. I still think that he has an extremely high ceiling.
53:32He was someone that I was also considering putting in this show sheet as a player attached to this charter's offense.
53:39But just looking at, okay, can I get the cheapest access point would be Trey Harris and even Quinn Johnson is obviously cheaper than Lad McConkie.
53:46That rookie year, I think just if you just remove Keenan Allen, what was the biggest difference between rookie year Lad McConkie
53:53and second year Lad McConkie was Keenan Allen and him having a relationship with Justin Herbert.
53:57So I think that really just, that really hurt the bullish case last year.
54:01And I'm guilty of this as a lot of us were.
54:05Like we just didn't buy into it enough where it was like, oh, they signed Keenan Allen.
54:10Oh, he's dust. Like he's old, but he had a relationship with Justin Herbert.
54:14Like these guys that caught pass and target are target and Keenan led the team in targets last year.
54:19So that's really, I think, hurt Lad the most, especially when you're operating over the short to intermediate of the field, especially on third downs.
54:27I think Lad's going to be the third down guy this year and really move the chains, be that inside and outside guy for Justin Herbert.
54:34And Mike McDaniel has just put guys in position where Tyree Kill, Jalen Waddle, look at all their yards per route run.
54:41They may not have been a hundred percent route participation players, but when they were on the field, they were very, very efficient.
54:48And that's all Lad McConkie has been at the college level and at the NFL level, especially during his rookie year.
54:54So I'm also really high on Lad. I actually was struggling though about Lad versus Jalen Waddle and kind of moving them in my rankings.
55:01I'm like, do I like Waddle more? Do I like Lad more?
55:05So I think I moved Waddle one spot ahead of Lad McConkie.
55:08And I don't know if I want to do that.
55:11Boggs, are you firmly on one side or the other between Lad and Jalen Waddle?
55:15Not firmly. I have Lad at 20 and I have Waddle at 21.
55:19So I have them next to each other. I have Zay Flowers ahead of both of them.
55:24Yes. I also have Zay ahead, yeah. I think the nice thing about Mike McDaniel and his offense is that he is
55:31going to tailor it to the players. Unlike other offensive coordinators who say, I need a guy that fits.
55:36You know, Brian Dayball, you more need to fit into his system.
55:40That's why he goes and gets familiarity in Waddle Robinson and drafts a guy like Karnal Tate who has a similar skill set to Malik Neighbors, right?
55:48Like these are dominant players as well. You have to be dominant in the NFL to make it.
55:53But you have to fit his system. I think McDaniel really tailors.
55:57That's why A-Chan has worked. Tyreek Hill has worked.
55:59Waddle has worked. This guy has made these guys work very well.
56:03I'm excited about Hampton. I'm excited about Neighbors. The only guy I'm really not excited about in this offense is Arande Gadsden.
56:09Because he did like a quarter of his production in two games.
56:13So that is the only guy that I don't see the absolute ceiling for.
56:17Finding the right players for the Chargers is going to be really key because when you look at their – they play the Arizona Cardinals week one, right?
56:25This is like a scenario where they come out and put a 40-burger on an opposing defense.
56:30Trade everybody after week one. Look, we saw Mike McDaniel.
56:33How long ago was it? Put up 70 points on opposing.
56:36Oh, yeah. On the Broncos. I mean, if he smells blood in the water, man, look, this guy wants to be a head coach.
56:43And how do you get noticed? You put up a ton of points against bad teams.
56:48Like, I'm just saying, man. So that's why Chargers, you got to be in on them to start the year to some extent.
56:55Don't leave a draft without a Charger. Make it happen.
56:58Keaton Mitchell season. Got it. All right. Last receiver that we have for the day.
57:02Scott, what do you got for us? I'm going to say Antonio Williams here.
57:06And look, this might be short-lived. You know, I know that all the rumors are Stefan Diggs is going to sign with Washington, but he hasn't yet.
57:14They're not signing Brandon Ayuk. I know that. All autograph things in Northern Virginia aside, they have not signed him.
57:20He's already insulted their quarterback. I don't think that's going to happen.
57:23Wouldn't be a good locker room move for the Commanders.
57:26But Stefan Diggs is still in here. But right now, it's Antonio Williams as far as I'm concerned, right?
57:32He was a massive prospect for Clemson, and they had the big collapse in 2025.
57:36He missed three games and still led the Tigers in receptions last year.
57:40He increased his yards per route run to a career-high 227 last season.
57:44He had the highest yak per reception since his freshman season and cut his drop rate from 9.6% to 1.8% as a senior.
57:51So he's a true dart throw because the Commanders can—you know, it's not just Diggs.
57:55They can sign any veteran, I feel like, to come in here and play this second role.
58:00Keenan Allen's still a free agent as well, right?
58:03So there are options for them to sign somebody.
58:05But I don't know. He's looked good in camp.
58:08He's been the buzz of camp so far. Zach Selby said, who writes for the Commanders website, said that it won't be
58:14long until he's a focus of the offense if he continues to play this way like he has early in camp.
58:21A lot of the Commanders blogs are praising him as the number two right now.
58:25And his competition is Luke McCaffrey, Traylon Burks, Jalen Lane, and Van Jefferson.
58:29There's just not a lot blocking him from being the number two target.
58:33It could be Chica Conquo. It could be Rashad White if they don't sign a veteran.
58:37But I think Antonio Williams, as a gamble, as your last pick, throw that dart and see if it works out.
58:44Especially if they haven't signed Diggs when your draft goes out or signed Keenan Allen or another veteran.
58:49I think right now he's probably sitting in the leader of the clubhouse as that number two in the pecking order in the pass game.
58:56And, you know, with Jaden Daniels, that could be a very nice role.
59:00Yeah. Outside of Scary Terry, it's just a bunch of question marks.
59:03And one of those guys would probably pop. Erickson, do you think it'll be Antonio Williams?
59:08Do you like Chig? What do you think about the Commanders?
59:11I do have general interest in both of those guys, especially where Chig goes in drafts.
59:16He's starting to fall a little bit because of the allure of Stefan Diggs signing there.
59:21But Antonio Williams, I really liked coming out as a prospect out of Clemson.
59:25I think he did profiles and projects really well to operate from the slot.
59:29And kind of curious, you know, ask this question to both of you guys.
59:33If you think that they signed Stefan Diggs, does that mean Antonio Williams is buried as, like, the team's slot receiver?
59:39I get that Diggs can play inside and outside.
59:42But you look at the roster, it's like McCaffrey.
59:45Isn't he slot guy? Jalen Lane, slot guy. So it's like, would it make more sense for Diggs to be playing on
59:51the outside while they have these younger players that, okay, all we're asking you to do is play the slot, make it more simple for you.
59:59Whereas Diggs, you're going to be opposite of Terry, who also is an older receiver.
60:03He's not. He's over the age of 30. And he's also coming off an injury plague season where is he going to play all 17 games?
60:11That's another concern. So I get that there's a more pessimism around Williams right now because they're looking to bring in somebody.
60:17But the fact that they're still, like, waiting, it's like, hey, we want to see what we got with this kid.
60:23And I think the longer that it takes for them to actually sign Stefan Diggs is actually more of a bullish case for Antonio Williams.
60:31So Boggs, slot usage, any thoughts on that? Yeah.
60:33So I think, to me, when everybody's healthy, right, if they sign Diggs, the problem isn't necessarily being on the field.
60:39It's where you are in the pecking order. Because I think that Chig is probably three regardless, right?
60:45I think if it's no Diggs and it's Antonio Williams, I think Chig is three.
60:49If it's Stefan Diggs, I still think Chig is three, which makes Antonio Williams four or five.
60:54Because you don't sign Rashawn White to not throw the ball to him, right?
60:58That is his skill set. He's one of the best pass-catching backs in the NFL.
61:03So I think he's probably four regardless as well.
61:05So it's kind of like it's boom or bust on Antonio Williams.
61:09Are you going to be number two in the pecking order and number five in the pecking order?
61:14But as you mentioned, the longer it takes to sign Diggs, the more offseason stuff that he's dealing with.
61:20And injuries can happen in camp, making other teams, you know, go into this pile of their money and all this.
61:26I don't know. Why did the Niners not sign Stefan Diggs?
61:29Why don't the Raiders sign Stefan Diggs? Why don't the Raiders sign Stefan Diggs right now?
61:34Stefan Diggs played two years with Kirk Cousins. And apparently he's going to start all year.
61:38Yeah. They've been telling me. So what are we doing?
61:41Yeah. Why is he still out there? Washington is not the only answer here.
61:45So whether it's Allen or Diggs or somebody, if they sign someone, I think it does hurt Antonio from going two to five.
61:52But like you said, if anything happens to one of those guys in front of him, I think you jump the front
61:59of the line past Chig and Rashad White again.
62:01And now you're number two. So I think a grab and stash specifically with, you know, leagues with deeper benches is a
62:08great scenario to roster Antonio Williams and he's almost free.
62:11Yeah. July 31st. None of those guys are on the commanders.
62:14If you're drafting, you know, August 31st might be, it might be a different answer.
62:18Yeah. Yeah. Well, cool. All right. Well, gentlemen, that was fun.
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64:33And you guys have any parting things you want to plug?
64:37Any parting thoughts? Anything like that before we get out of here?
64:40Boggs, you want to start us off? Yeah. Even though I like, say, Flowers for fantasy, I'm still a Steelers fan and hate them.
64:47So there you go. To be clear. Well, that just guarantees he's going to have at least two nuclear games against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
64:54Almost beat it single-handedly to go to the playoffs.
64:57To quote Max Crosby, Las Vegas Raiders edge rusher and almost Zay Flowers teammate.
65:01Very, very close to being Zay Flowers teammate. For a couple days.
65:04They thought it was going to happen. They were like ready with the stepbrothers pictures.
65:09They were all good to go. It was going to be a great time.
65:13But to quote Max Crosby, what he said on the NFL Top 100, 2026 is when Zay gets his flowers.
65:19Very funny. I love it. All right, guys. Thank you.
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