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0:34I'm Chris Welsh. We've got Tara Roberts in the, I wouldn't say the host seat, but like, you know, we're together.
0:40I'm driving, you're, you know, gonna be in the passenger side, but we're gonna like, push everybody to you, and we're gonna be answering your guys' questions.
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0:57Final Draft Weekends are coming up. Tara, I don't know where you sit in the draft market.
1:02I know like, best balls have been done, but this is a huge draft week for me.
1:07I've kind of held off a whole lot. I'm in a, it's a league called the Pentathlon League, where we do five different events.
1:14Derek Van Ryper from The Athletic runs it, Fitzy's in it with me.
1:18I just completed the Tags League here at Fantasy Pros, which is a big deal.
1:22That's the, obviously the Mike Tagliere League. It's the championship one where it's Wormley, Erickson and I representing the content team.
1:28I just finished that. So all of my stuff is going down this week.
1:32So I obviously don't know where everybody is at, but this is an important week to me going into Labor Day.
1:38What about you? I've got one left. Just one.
1:41I wrapped up everything and luckily was not hurt too bad by all the pre injuries in terms of early drafting in August.
1:47But I've got one more left to wrap up this weekend.
1:50That's it. Well, hopefully you guys have got a bunch.
1:53And if you do, we're here to help you out where you guys can be dropping questions to us.
1:59You can do it in the normal way, which is totally adequate.
2:02Or if you guys want to get front of the line access, you want to make sure your question is answered without question.
2:09Super chats, baby, you guys can drop super chats.
2:11We've already got a couple in the queue. That is your front of the line, your Disney front of the line pass,
2:18where we will go to your question first before anybody else's, whatever it is.
2:22If it's strategy, you want a draft grade. If you've got a draft in, you can do that.
2:27Drop your super chats in. I don't feel compelled to put any warning on them and say we'll only do them for 20 minutes.
2:34We'll see how they go. If we get inundated, then we will put a marker on it.
2:39So that's just a little thing for you guys to know if you want to make sure your questions are answered.
2:45Get them in as soon as possible, but no real marker.
2:48That'll just go before anybody else. But feel free to drop your questions, whatever they are.
2:52We've got Sal on the ones and twos. He's going to be queuing them up and we're going to jump into these questions.
2:59We'll talk about a little giveaway in a little bit.
3:02So let's jump into this bad boy. And let's start up with our first and it's a super chat there.
3:08Whoops. Sorry. Sorry, Sal. This is from Ben. What do you think about this trade?
3:12This is a full point PPR Burrow cook, Javante Higgins, Bauer, Swift, Watson.
3:16Is this the team? Oh my God, this is Watson Godwin.
3:19This is an entire team traded. Oh, no, that's the team.
3:22I was like, okay. I panicked at first too.
3:24I was like, whoa, flipping. I was like, please don't bring these trades to me where you've traded 45 players for 32
3:31players, traded Javante and Godwin for Nico and Tootin.
3:33So he's leading out that his team, he had Javante, he had Godwin, and then he just added Nico Collins and Tootin in there.
3:40So do you think the Javante for Tootin downgrade, if you will, was worth the upgrade from Godwin to Nico Collins?
3:46Because I sure do. I love this trade for you because you can take that risk at running back because you've got both cook and Swift.
3:54So if it doesn't pan out, it's not that big a deal.
3:57You've got depth there as well at running back little Coleman.
4:00So yeah, you've got this one is good. I like that trade for you.
4:04Big upgrade at wide receiver to something better in terms of upside and health and youth.
4:09So yes, I'm down with that one. Okay. What would you grade it?
4:13B plus, A minus, A plus. I mean, I think this is like an A minus, if not maybe better.
4:18Cause I just, I'm not sure the downgrade from Williams to Tootin is that dramatic.
4:23The upgrade is dramatic up to Nico Collins. So this, this screams some version of an A to me.
4:28Yeah. I mean, we got to remember receiving volume is a little limited in terms of yard and ethic to catch for Devante Williams.
4:35So this is a solid A for me. Good job, Ben.
4:38Good, good job. All right. First one up in the books there.
4:42Uh, I think I got these, Sal. Don't worry about that.
4:45And then also, uh, Ben message, uh, messages to say, thanks to Wisconsin native Fitz and D bro for helping me decide
4:51on my keeper and my touchdown heavy league. When we thought Gentty lost a leg.
4:55So Ben, Ben just sending in nice thoughts to the boys.
4:59Uh, yeah, everybody is rocking right now. Those guys are great.
5:02I'm excited to get into in season. I gotta be honest with you.
5:05I love seeing all these draft stuff. I love you guys.
5:09Um, you know, throwing out the, the appreciation for these guys.
5:12I'm excited to get into my regular schedule. So I get to start seeing all of these guys on a regular basis.
5:18Me and Erickson are attached at the hip here at fantasy pros, but I get to do a little bit more with Fitzy coming up.
5:25I'm actually not sure what I've got with D bro, but they're the best.
5:29And thank you guys for hanging out with us.
5:32Cause you guys are the best metal James in the house format for keeper on the super chat, full PPR 10 team,
5:38pretty standard, uh, two wide receiver, two running back to flex keeping a Marion McBride, London and Caleb thoughts on what I
5:44should do in the first four or five rounds.
5:47So we've, uh, it's pretty diverse. You've got your high end tight end, your high end quarterback, one wide receiver, one, uh, running back.
5:54It's the, the smells of BPA, but what does that BPA look like to you?
5:58Because presumably you're going to have 10 team, let's say the top 15 ish running backs, at least are going to probably be off the board.
6:06Probably the same thing about wide receivers, maybe even a little bit more.
6:09So the pool you're looking at, maybe there's a breeze hall floating out there, probably tootin jutkins.
6:14Those are the type of running backs. The wide outs might look a little bit better.
6:19Maybe there's a waddle floating out there. So like what obviously BPA feels good, but what range would you want to try to target?
6:26Yeah. You make a very good point on what's available.
6:29I think my cutoff would be swift or higher.
6:31If anyone in that range is available, then yeah, I would target that and then do wide receiver.
6:36But if not, you probably got some leeway to target a lot of those wide receivers who weren't kept.
6:42So lean wide receiver heavy there, you've got two flexes, so that's fine.
6:45And then hit running back, maybe in the Tootin Price Henderson kind of range there.
6:50And with it being full PPR, I'm more likely to probably push to wide receiver unless, you know, there was some cool
6:56thing to happen with a, with a running back.
6:59I mean, I think Swift is like probably a really good example.
7:02I just don't know if there's going to be any of those running backs that catch a lot of balls that are
7:08going to be super fun to get. So you might end up wanting to focus on wide receivers, especially as I'm looking
7:15and I'm outside the top 15 wide receivers. Like I said, Waddle, what if a McConkie is out there?
7:20Egg Buka, I can't imagine, but what if he got thrown back because of the injuries?
7:25So I think that, yeah, I think the pool of like Terry McLaurin, DJ Moore, and maybe a few of those other
7:31names is probably better than reaching for some of those running backs.
7:35So James, that's what, uh, that's what I would probably end up doing.
7:38So I think we're kind of lockstep here. All right.
7:41Uh, let's jump into it. More questions, all of your questions for the next hour and more super chats.
7:47That's how you get into it. Colin, do I hold on to Caleb Douglas or Emmett Johnson?
7:51Bigger producer will be Caleb or Jacoby Lane and then start, uh, Brooks, Mondray or may.
7:56Okay. So let's, uh, work this through here. Uh, Douglas or Emmett Johnson.
8:00That's a pretty easy Emmett Johnson for me. Yeah.
8:02And I, and I still think that Douglas has potential, uh, how much of Chris Bell will we see right off the bat?
8:09So that's the question there, but long run, you probably want to lock in the, what appears to be the direct handcuff.
8:15I'm going to be, I'll be straight with you guys.
8:18I'm all on Chris Bell. Like a lot of people didn't think Chris Bell was going to be out there early in the first 10 minutes.
8:26We talked about this on the tailgate channel. If you guys just like real NFL talk, you know, can do tailgate NFL on YouTube.
8:32You can find us. We're going to actually be doing like three shows, uh, in season a week and one is going to be live.
8:40But I talked about the Chris Bell thing in the first 10 minutes.
8:43He was targeted like five times. There hasn't been a true wide receiver.
8:47I'm drafting him everywhere. Uh, Bogman and I in our auction draft last night, we went studs and scrubs.
8:53It's a 12 team. We grabbed Chris Bell at the end, the 16 team tags league that we just did.
8:58It's a monster. Chris Bell was one of my final picks.
9:01I'm taking him everywhere. So I like him over Douglas.
9:04Emmett Johnson is just like the lock here. Now, who do you think is a bigger producer this year?
9:10Douglas or Jacoby lane? I am a Jacoby lane truth there.
9:13So I'm loving the, uh, propaganda. He's starting. I think he can push Rashad Bateman out of the way.
9:18So it's lane for me. I am with you.
9:21I'm going to go with lane and then start Brooks, Ramondre or Mason week one.
9:25I, I, I lean towards, well, okay. It depends on what we hear with Chuba.
9:29The Panthers have been fairly transparent. So if we do hear that he's, you know, he'll be ready, but maybe he's a little limited if he's not ready.
9:38This is a clear Brooks, but if he's, you know, in there kind of, and they're going to split carries, I might lean towards Brooks.
9:45Then Mason, I, I am not playing around with Ramondre Steven or Stevenson or Trevion Henderson this week.
9:50It's against Seattle. We don't know what the split is going to be.
9:54Just give it a week before you mess around with it.
9:57Yeah. I think Brooks is where I'm going to go with this one overall, because also I just like the potential of
10:03what he's going to be in the passing game.
10:06So, and, and then the 16 team league, I don't want you feel about this.
10:10I'm going to kind of sprinkle this in 16 teams are monsters.
10:13And I under, I think a few of us underestimated the running back spot.
10:17I had the third pick in the tags league and Bijon and Gibbs went one, two Erickson and Wormley.
10:23And I really thought about McCaffrey, but I decided to go Jamar Chase that ended up, obviously that feels great.
10:29Obviously that got scary because running backs went crazy.
10:31So my number one is Bucky, but my number two is Jonathan Brooks.
10:35I felt like I got really good upside because I also did invest in Trey McBride who fell all the way back
10:41into the second or third round where I ended up getting him.
10:45Um, but I have to start Jonathan Brooks in a 16 team league as an RB two, but that's the, that's the
10:51type of upside I think I'm willing to play with.
10:54So I'm, I'm heavily invested. What do you think about them as a two and a 16 team league?
10:59In 16 team? Um, I'm cool with it. Yeah.
11:02I mean, cause you're pushing, right? Maybe you had to push it back a little bit at very least.
11:07We know that they want this to be 50, 50.
11:10So I'm, I'm okay with it in a 16 team league.
11:13All right. Uh, Oh, perfect. This is good. Cause I wanted to point out you guys are doing great with the super
11:20chats again, just reminding everybody will definitely be attempting, um, to get to all of your questions.
11:24Even if you don't super chat, I will do different points of doing that, but super chats going to get the priority here.
11:31So if you have a priority question, make sure you super chat it like people are doing.
11:36There is one in here. Our boy Greg didn't put one.
11:39So either you love us or if you missed one, put your question in the chat.
11:44Sal is scouring and Oh, perfect. Look at that.
11:46He found it. Sal's a pro, uh, Hampton. This is his Hampton or Collins for a fourth keeper in a four keeper 18 league with custom PPR scoring.
11:54Ooh, what's the custom? First three keepers are Taylor chase and Jefferson.
11:58So a glut of riches here, already two great wide receivers.
12:01Would you, I'm assuming whether it's three wide receiver flex, maybe it doesn't matter.
12:05Would you want to go with the RB to kind of shore that up?
12:09Or if there's custom PPR scoring that maybe favors that more, do you think Nico Collins is just a smash because then
12:15he got three top 10 wide receivers, which, uh, which spot would you go in here?
12:20Yeah. I mean, typically speaking, like in rankings I have, I would take Hampton over Collins, but we're talking eight team full
12:26PPR custom, uh, custom settings and you have Taylor as your RB one.
12:30So that's a lot of guaranteed volume. You can get a little bit, you can push in it's eight team.
12:36You can push back a couple of rounds there on your next running back.
12:40So yeah, I might, I might lean towards Collins and you've got bang, bang, bang with three top 12 wide receivers.
12:46This is a super tough one for me because the other thing is though an 18 league with only four keepers, the
12:52player pool is going to be tremendous. It's going to be a tremendous player pool.
12:56Yeah. Four keepers. Like when you do, when you guys come to me and you say two keepers, that's a redraft league to me, it's just too cool.
13:04And I want to go off of redraft settings for keepers towing the line.
13:08Just imagine. I think you, what you might be leaving out here is if that PPR custom scoring does something else special.
13:15I think there's a world where you just grab Nico Collins, you have the greatest wide receivers in a custom PPR format, eight teams.
13:21There's probably still some good running backs out there.
13:24If it's three wide receiver, I think I'm a hundred percent doing that.
13:28If it's two wide receiver, I think I'll lean back to Hampton.
13:31So we gave you a couple options there, Greg, if you want to go in monster super chat in here from Adam thoughts on this lineup.
13:39Let's do it. Uh, Jaden Daniels at quarterback running backs, Marion Hampton, Bucky Irving wide receivers, a monitor St.
13:44Brown, Chris Olave tight end is Tucker craft bench is Dobbins, Parker Washington, Quinton Johnston, Aaron Jones, and George Kittle.
13:50What? This has got to be a 10. Maybe this is a 12 team.
13:54This feels very 10 team ish here. Yeah. I love this.
13:57I'm invested in Brown this year. I'm heavily invested in Bucky.
14:00I love Parker Washington. The only thing I'm pseudo against on my like kind of trying to avoid team is Jaden Daniels.
14:07But even that is kind of silly. I'm worried about the offensive line that it's going to make everything just toast.
14:13Maybe he's going to be able to overcome it.
14:15Uh, but I think you have an absolutely insane starters.
14:18That's why I feel like this is a 10 team.
14:21I don't like Dobbins, but I love Parker Washington.
14:23Frankly, I would cut Dobbins to go get Jonah Coleman right now if it's a short league, but I love everything else.
14:30So I'm going to give this, I'm going to give this like a B plus I think, but I understand if you
14:36want to give it an a, what do you think Tara?
14:39Yeah. I can go the same range. Cause I love all the wide receivers here, every single one of them.
14:45So that is big plus for me. If this is full PPR, um, with you, my, my only issue is it's interesting.
14:51Jane Daniels, but it depends on the value that you've got for him.
14:55Like if you drafted him, I guess we could kind of deduct and do the math and see where it was, but yeah, but yeah, it's funny.
15:03We did a bold predictions, a recorded a bold prediction show today.
15:06And, uh, Erickson's bold prediction was Jane Daniels does not finish as a top 12 quarterbacks.
15:11So because there's, as you mentioned the offensive line, there's risk, you got the older receivers.
15:15Yeah, it's shaky, but if it pays off, this is high upside.
15:19Yeah. Erickson and I did a special series. It's coming out.
15:22Not like it's just crazy different series, but just for you guys to know, we did a final rank change last minute
15:28rank update for you guys that have drafts this weekend, or you guys have got drafts on labor day.
15:34And what it was, was we were actually identifying ECR changes where rankers expert consensus rankers are going in and we're seeing those change up.
15:41And I'm only saying all this. We did a quarterback tight end episode, a running back and a wide receiver, but we
15:47spent some time after talking and we were heavy talking.
15:50I knew Daniels was coming up and he said he had that.
15:53And I was like, I don't know what level he was going to do, but I knew he was going to kind of smash Daniels a little bit.
16:01So make sure to go check that episode out.
16:04That's pretty awesome. But yeah, did you, I'm sorry, did you give a grade on this?
16:09I said, I'm going to say B plus. Did you give a B for me?
16:13Yeah, it's a B. Okay. And was it just Daniels or was there one other piece that you didn't like?
16:19Running backs. Don't say Bucky. You're going to say Bucky.
16:22Sorry. I hope he gets more goal line touches than he got last year, which was zero.
16:26So yeah, I don't love Bucky, but it's RB too.
16:29But I don't love Bucky. And then I think Dobbins will be a wash at some point very quickly, unfortunately due to injury.
16:36And then we don't know if it could be a true committee of them putting in Jonah Coleman right away.
16:42And then how long is Aaron Jones going to last?
16:45So yeah, you could be, my thing is you could be thin at running backs.
16:49So I would like you to get some options that are more likely to make it through the season.
16:54Yeah. Even more so if this was a 10 team league, this is a pretty rough RB bench.
16:59Even in a 12 team, this is still a little bit rough, but you just have like such strong starters.
17:05I bet you, if you put this in the draft assistant, by the way, if you want grades, you can go in
17:11and you can sink your leagues, but you can go to fantasypros.com slash draft assistant.
17:16You, even if the draft is done, you can import your league and then it'll give you the draft grades.
17:21It'll say where it projects you. It can tell you the analysts that like it.
17:26I highly suggest going and do that. And then you can also look at the team strengths on the spider chart to
17:32see, you know, some suggestions and what you could have done differently.
17:36So go and check that out. And if you do Adam, and if you do it during the show, pop back in
17:42and tell us what, where you finished and what the grade looked like.
17:46And we'll, we'll bring it up there. Monster, a super chat for you.
17:49All right. We're going to do a couple more super chats here.
17:53And then I want to get a couple of the other questions and stay tuned for a giveaway here, but grand.
17:59Here's one. I did a 14 team PPR drafting from the eight spot thoughts on the team.
18:04We've got JSN and Walker is the one, two Devonta Smith, Waddle, Tootin, three, four, five, Fannin, Purdy, Rashad White, QJ, Algier, only three bench.
18:11So going to make moves during the buys. I'm going to let you start on this one.
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20:28This is an excellent 14 team. Getting JSN pick eight, excellent.
20:31Walker, Devontae Smith, Waddle, Tootin as the RB2, and a fifth pick.
20:34Still got a good tight end there with Fannin for volume.
20:37Pretty quarterback. I mean, yeah, I like this team a lot, man.
20:41It's an A for me. For a 14 team, you did that.
20:44I like it a lot. You almost made me curse because I love this team so much.
20:49I love for a 14 team for you to have JSN Smith and Waddle is stupid.
20:54For you to have Walker and Tootin is stupid.
20:56I'm not a big like Fannin guy, but still you got a great tight end.
21:01Algier is probably going to get some early run in here as well with a low.
21:05I love this team. I think you did an absolutely killer job, especially considering you don't even need to like consider this
21:11as a 14 team, but in context, I love this team.
21:15With the Quentin Johnson there. There you go. Yeah.
21:17Yeah. Like I said, I almost blurted something out.
21:20Steve, Steve is either just a lovely super chat or a missed question, but we can find it back up and Sal can let me know.
21:27Let's do, or did you already find it? Oh, no question from Steve.
21:31So Steve just loves us or we'll find it and we'll get you covered here.
21:35Let's go to Kevin. Offer to trade Ladd and Gainwell for Emeka Ekbuka and Pollard.
21:40What are your thoughts? PPR, they've got Bijon, Warren, Lloyd, and Ken Walker already.
21:44So really strong at running back here, but offer to trade.
21:47So you were offering your Ladd and Gainwell to get Pollard and Ekbuka.
21:50So where do you sit? I guess this is really like, where do you sit Ladd versus Ekbuka?
21:56So you're trading for guys that I have ranked higher than the other ones.
22:00So yes, I have Ekbuka higher, you know, yes, we got the injury situation going on.
22:04I don't know who your other wide receivers are, but with the possibility of him being ready for week one, he's working
22:11with trainers on, you know, the side of the field.
22:13So at the end of the day, that one is, I'm okay with that.
22:17It's a very lateral move for me with exact same upside.
22:21And I haven't ranked just a little bit higher than Ladd.
22:24I do have Pollard ranked higher, you know, he's going to get the majority of the volume, obviously a lesser team situation,
22:30but at the end of the day, I'd rather have the guy who is actually the RB1.
22:35So yeah, I like this. All right. I, uh, I think I'm with, I'm an Ekbuka guy.
22:40So I think this is like a solid trade, even more protection.
22:43I like Ekbuka over Ladd. So then getting my Pollard over Gainwell.
22:47So this is just kind of like a, a no brainer for me.
22:50Yeah. Uh, all right. We got a couple more super chats that are still in the queue.
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24:29You've got better odds. So go and do that, but, but specifically say something nice about me and Tara that'll, it won't
24:35actually get you extra points, but like, it's not going to hurt.
24:39Right. All right. Let's go to short. I think, would you trade London, uh, Marvin Harrison, Jr.
24:43and Rashad white to get Jackson Smith in jigba.
24:46If you're solid at wide receiver, Marvin Harrison, Jr.
24:49Is not a meaningful part of your starting lineup as a flex, then yes.
24:53I think so too. I don't think that's a, that's not enough depth for me to not want to do it.
24:59Um, yeah, maybe it's tougher. Like to your point, if Marvin Harrison is your wide receiver three, and then you don't have
25:05much else, but if what we have Marvin made, Marvin's maybe a four or maybe Marvin's your three, but you've also got like one Dale is a four.
25:13And then maybe you got like another solid dude as a three.
25:16I have no problem with this. I don't think Rashad white holds an again, enough depth that I wouldn't do that.
25:22So I'm down with that. I like that. All right.
25:25Uh, Xbox wizard. What's up pros. I invested in Josh Jacobs.
25:28Oh, I invested in Josh Jacobs investor. I think you just mean you're an investor.
25:33It's 14, uh, man league. And my past catchers from wide receiver, tight end and flex are very strong.
25:38Do I pursue a trade for a running back?
25:41Backup is Algier or grit my teeth. Good question.
25:43I love Algier by the way, very early on this year.
25:46And I think he could be sneaky, but not a lot's going to help you as the weeks kind of go on.
25:53So if you have strength at your other positions, would you lessen the strength to go get some version of running back depth?
25:59I don't know what that's going to look like.
26:02How would you approach something like this without knowing the players?
26:05I would, I know it's tough, especially 14 to him.
26:08I would try to make that trade if you can right now, especially if you're trading for maybe, um, a lower end,
26:14like a high end RB three or something like that, that could maybe pop off early in the beginning of the season,
26:21lock it in now because yeah, I don't feel very good about Jacobs return in season.
26:25So I would go ahead and make a move.
26:28Um, yeah. And then, yeah, I think I'm, I'm going to co-sign with, with you on that one.
26:33This can be tricky. The Josh Jacobs, man in the tags league, we just did the 16 team.
26:38I even had points where the running back depth was so bad.
26:42I mean, luckily we did this later. So no one was like taking Jacobs in the third or fourth round, but Jacobs
26:48was there when we were drafting like RB threes and fours.
26:51And I, I was sitting there tempted, but it's just, we don't know.
26:55So I do think you have to, um, you've got to make a move.
26:59You got to make some type of a move.
27:01Uh, feel free to come back. You can bring it if there's a little bit more clarity on like what that could end up looking like.
27:09Cause I know that's tricky, but, um, wood stuff and you are welcome.
27:13I said, thank you. Thank you. And then also Kevin for Kevin super chat.
27:17Uh, this is from Sal. He followed saying his other wide receivers, Devonta Smith.
27:21I gotta be honest with that. I don't even remember which one that was unless that was the eight team offered.
27:27Oh, oh, this is this one. All right. Oh, okay.
27:29Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. Sick. Okay. Makes us like it more.
27:32Yes, it does. Yes, it does. All right. Let me see, uh, where we are at on super chat.
27:38We just did Xbox. Okay. So now I'm caught back up here.
27:41We did grand. We had Steve. I think we're going to get to some, not, Oh, we have one more right here
27:47and then we'll get, we have like two more and then we're going to get to some other questions.
27:53Feel free to continue dropping super chats. I'm not going to cap them for this episode.
27:58I just don't think we're going to be in a bad spot there.
28:01So please feel free to keep dropping those super chats in here.
28:05Uh, price or Ramondre price feels like the higher ceiling.
28:08This is from Dylan. He is. Yeah. We don't know at some point.
28:11Um, both, you know, both of these guys in theory have other running backs that are nipping at the heels, but I
28:18feel the probability of rice or sorry, price becoming a true RB one compared to the probability of Ramondre Stevenson is higher.
28:24I feel like Stevenson will be in that split constantly.
28:27We know who the more talented back is. So it's price for price for me too.
28:31I mean, Helani is going to get a little bit of run here, but price is just going to have like a really easy runway.
28:39So I'm going to, I'm going to go with the upside there.
28:42Uh, Wallaby 12 man PPR at the one to Bijon Bowers neighbors, more Burrow Brooks, Rico, BTJ.
28:47Am I cooked? So your starters are Jonathan Brooks and Bijon.
28:50Your wide receivers are neighbors, DJ more BTJ. And then, or no, yeah.
28:54Bijon. Bijon Brooks, Rico. And then your quarterback is Burrow.
28:57I'm not sure why I would think this is cooked.
28:59I mean, you did sacrifice wide receiver for doing the early tight end and neighbors might be a little bit of risk,
29:06but I mean, I unfortunately would say this kind of reads to me like a B minus type of team.
29:12You need a couple of things to go your way, but I really liked the DJ more pick and add it in there.
29:18What do you think about this team? You're not cooked longterm.
29:21You could be cooked for the first couple of weeks if neighbors, cause we still don't really have any kind of like
29:28100% confirmation or even if he'll be, you know, ramped up very slowly.
29:31So if you would have to put BTJ into your lineup, considering the early season matchups that he had, you might be
29:38a little bit cooked to start off with, but longterm, longterm, this can work out perfectly fine.
29:42So no, you're not cooked. It might hurt at the beginning of the season, but I think you should be fine as we progress.
29:49What was a, what grade would you give? I'm given like a B B minus.
29:54I mean, I'm not even being fair about that.
29:56You got to get a top tier quarterback. You've got the best tight end.
30:00You've got the best running back neighbors could end up being, I mean, maybe I'm underselling him a little bit.
30:06It's a B for me because we have to assume at some point neighbors is going to, he's not starting on the pot.
30:13Look, so you've already started off with that on a positive note.
30:16So yeah, it's a B. It's a B. Carson, super flex.
30:19I pick five. What, who is your top five?
30:22This is going to come to a bunch of strategy stuff.
30:25So bottom line, let me rephrase the question to you, Tara.
30:28Are you taking the fifth quarterback off of your board?
30:31Whoever that is, if that's Burrow or Jalen Hurts, or are you taking the top positional player, which is likely going to be a Bijan or Jameer Gibbs?
30:39What are you doing at five? It would help to know if this is like a 10 team or a 12 team, but maybe it doesn't quite matter.
30:47What, uh, what are you doing? So a lot of people are going Bijan and Gibbs and Chase fairly early in super flex drafts.
30:54So it is entirely possible that this pick, like I did a super flex mock draft, uh, yesterday and fourth pick, I took Lamar Jackson.
31:01So you could very well have Drake may there, or even maybe Lamar Jackson, if we get another running back that goes before.
31:08So yeah. Um, if it, I prioritize quarterback, if you do have, uh, Lamar Jackson or Drake may there that I'd probably
31:14stop it at that and say, okay, from that point forward, pivot to the best available at another position.
31:19Yep. I think that's, so if this is a 10 team, I am going one of the five of the top three
31:26quarterbacks, Alan may Jackson, or I'm going Jameer Bijan.
31:28If it's a 10 team, if it's a 12 team, I think I'm doing the same thing.
31:33If I'm being honest with you, I might potentially slide in a, a, a burrow or something like that.
31:39But you know, I think I'm going to hold to it 10 team or 12 team.
31:43I'm taking one of the three quarterbacks and then I'm looking at one of the two running backs.
31:4810 team makes me feel way better about it.
31:51I do like some of the leader ish quarterbacks that you can make it happen.
31:55But here's the, here's the trick is I think you've got to have the discipline.
32:00If you do take Jameer Gibbs or Bijan Robinson, you've got to have the discipline when you come back and you see
32:06Brock Purdy as the second round pick and you feel disgusted because there's also like, you know, Drake London sitting there.
32:12And so you got to have the discipline to get your quarterbacks.
32:15I've done some of these mocks where I'll, I'll take like a quarterback in the fourth and fifth round and I'm still like, okay with it.
32:23Cause you can do that, especially in a 10 team.
32:26You could do that, but it usually comes from me being like at like nine or 10 or 11, because then it's
32:32like, Hey, I'm getting a top position player and I double tap them.
32:36So five is a little bit tricky, but just have the discipline to do it.
32:40And don't be afraid to take any of those top positional players.
32:43But like if you were faced with Jameer Gibbs or Lamar Jackson, are you still going to take Lamar?
32:49I would lean towards Gibbs. Yeah. That would be the cutoff.
32:52Yeah. It's tough, but I would lean towards Gibbs.
32:55I would go with the quarterback there. That's a, that's a tough one there.
32:59All right. I believe if I am seeing this correctly, we have exhausted our super chat.
33:03So super chats are open. If you would like to jump the line, is that correct?
33:08Yep. No supers left right now. So we're going to go back up to the queue and we're going to start answering some of your questions.
33:15Sal has been pinging them. I'm going to do these for a little bit regardless.
33:20And then if you guys want to drop any more super chats, you will jump the line and we'll get your questions in.
33:26So let's go check out what Colby has to say.
33:29Superflex draft tonight, picking four. Oh, there you go.
33:3210 team half PPR thinking of, this is just like what we said, taking Gibbs chase, whoever falls and then punting quarterback.
33:38I hate punting quarterback and super flex. I'm the wrong person to talk about punting, but we just said, I think you
33:44can do third or fourth round or, uh, maybe fourth or fifth round in a 10 team for sure.
33:50But I do not like punting. If you're telling me like, cool dude, I'm going to have Shuck and Cam Ward.
33:56I hate it. I absolutely hate it. Mm hmm.
33:58Uh, yeah, I would take Gibbs and because in 10 team, once you come around to the third round, you'll still have
34:05something in a viable strong because we've got, you know, think about it.
34:08Like we've got the intent team. We would have the Purdy, uh, you know, Stafford to up to Stafford, Josh Jacob or not Josh Jacobs.
34:15Jesus, Jared Goff. So yeah, there's, there's flexibility in terms of what you'd be able to do to come around to the
34:22third and then the fourth as well. So I'm okay with taking Gibbs and then pushing your quarterback to the third round and then fourth.
34:29Me too. Um, a couple of things. If we look at the fantasy pros ranks, you can actually just click on super
34:35flex and you can see what it looks like.
34:38According to ECR, they've got Burrow at four. I got no problem.
34:41If you want to take Gibbs there and then coming back, that would be around pick 16 or 17.
34:47Your quarterbacks you're probably looking at is something like a Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott or a Purdy.
34:52If you don't want to do that, maybe you're looking at an Amonra or Christian McCaffrey.
34:56And then if you went third round, you're looking at a Purdy or a Bo Nix.
35:01If you didn't do that and then we move into, you know, the fourth round, this is where I think you can do it.
35:08And this is no later than I would go.
35:10You could go like a Kyler and a Jordan Love or a Kyler and maybe Malik Willis.
35:15Like that's how I would want to do it.
35:18So I'm cool if you want to do the first three picks in positional and take advantage of that, especially in a 10 team.
35:25I think that rocks. So punting isn't the word I would use, but I know a lot of people like to do it.
35:31That's a tough one here. TCB, eight man, two running back, two wide receiver, two flex, rate my draft.
35:37We've got Hertz and Dak, Swift, Hampton, Scott, Hall, HN, Bucky.
35:40Wide receivers are neighbors, Wilson, Flowers, Waddle, Burden. Tight end is Loveland.
35:43Any suggested moves? This is obviously it's really solid because it's an eight man and it's only two wide receiver.
35:49I will say I might ding you slightly because I would want better wide receivers in this a little bit.
35:55So like this is like a B plus, a minus, but I like the quarterback stuff.
35:59I think your running backs are so it's just like, I'm looking at this and I'm like, where's the high end running back and high end wide receiver?
36:07The two high ends are Hampton and neighbors and an eight team.
36:11I feel like you could have done better than that.
36:14So I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to stick to a B plus, but you know, it's a great freaking team.
36:20That's a good point. I like this team, but I do.
36:23Yeah. I do question an eight team that the first two were coming around that way.
36:27So, um, B for me would have liked a higher end.
36:31Yeah. So the suggested move for me would be take one of those running backs and maybe put one of those wide
36:37receivers together and try to package them. I mean, listen, dude, you're putting that even at flex.
36:42If you're starting lineup is I'm just staring at this.
36:45Let's say it's a Shannon and Hampton and then wide receivers and flex are neighbors, Wilson flowers and waddle like that rocks.
36:51But could you go and take a brief hall and a Garrett Wilson?
36:55Maybe not those two, but you know, I'm getting at like those, those to combo like that and then go upgrade at wide receiver.
37:01That's what I would want to do. I would try to do at least.
37:06So that's what I would be looking at. And I believe that was salary cap too.
37:10So that makes it a little bit, a little bit trickier, uh, rank JSN, Amonra St.
37:15Brown, CMC, JT fifth pick in an upcoming draft 12 team full PPR.
37:18How would you do that? For me, it is JT, JSN, Amonra CMC.
37:22I know that I am not the normal on that because of the CMC portion of that, but that is my preference.
37:28CMC number one for me, because it's full point PPR and running back in the 12 team.
37:33Then I would go JSN, Amonra, uh, JT. So we're not a lot of help.
37:38I think we might be like literally like polar opposites on that, but it's just like Christian wide receivers are ranked the same.
37:44Yeah. It's just why Christian McAfee catches 90 plus passes a game and it's full PPR and he's volume.
37:50So if you do believe he's going to get hurt again, then I guess that doesn't help.
37:55But yeah, wide receivers, maybe JSN is your answer then if you want to do that.
37:59Uh, we've got a super chat in here, which we'll do, or maybe we've got a couple here.
38:04We'll do in just a second. I just want to get a few more to peoples in here.
38:09Let's just jump around and let's do this. Thoughts on roster in super flex, May and Allen at quarterback.
38:15Wow. Uh, rice and flowers at wide receiver. Hampton and swift at running back, likely at tight end top flex is DJ Moore and Godwin.
38:22I don't know what, if this is a 12 team, dude, this is, this is, I mean, I don't like rice specifically,
38:28but taking the player out and just doing the balance of it.
38:32This is my type of team. I love this team.
38:35This was really done really well done for super flex.
38:38So yeah, the only portion of it is the, just the rice portion, but I mean, yeah, to sacrifice that for the
38:44fact that you invested into high end quarterbacks, um, I'm fine with that.
38:48Yeah. We went, uh, in our pentathlon, we had an auction super flex.
38:51We, uh, Bogman and I, we share a team cause it's like a bigger money thing.
38:56Uh, we went Drake may and Trevor Lawrence and we went high in there.
39:00And then we also, we went studs and scrubs in the auction and our wide receivers were a monitor, St.
39:06Brown, Drake, London, and Christian McCaffrey at running back.
39:08So we went true studs and scrubs, but I like going in with that roster.
39:13And I liked those high end quarterbacks, uh, chase Brown or Ken Walker from Newton.
39:17I have chase Brown higher. Uh, you know, ultimately Ken Walker could have the higher upside if everything goes perfect and all
39:23the goal line opportunities are there and there's no, you know, and he doesn't get hurt or anything like that.
39:29Chase Brown is just the safer pick, especially in full PPR constant RB one for you.
39:33Yep. I wish I am which. All right, let's get back to some super chats here.
39:38Uh, you guys are loading a few up here.
39:41Um, tied in one Juwan Ferguson, Dalton, or Terrence Ferguson, full 12 team PPR.
39:45Um, I was just updating tight end rankings and I do believe I still have, well, let me not lie.
39:50I've got, uh, I believe in theory, I still have Ferguson over Juwan, but did I, yeah, it's one spot literally that Ferguson love Juwan Johnson.
39:58I would say it's Ferguson, Juwan Johnson. And then I'm sorry, uh, Jake Ferguson, um, Juwan Johnson, and then Terrence Ferguson would
40:04be number three for me because of the upside, but Fergus, uh, Jake and then Juwan Johnson would be my ranking of that.
40:11So we're both on Ferguson, but we both, I feel like we both want, I mean, who was two for you?
40:17Was it Juwan Johnson? It was. Yep. I kind of want to say Juwan Johnson, especially early on in the season.
40:23All right, Cameron, what you got, man? 10 team PPR.
40:26We're going to start two wide receivers and one flex team is Hertz, Zay, T conception, Godwin, Parker, Washington, uh, with Gibbs,
40:32Ken Walker, Henry Lloyd, Gainwell, Goddard and fan and okie doke.
40:35So the starters, uh, uh, running back are Gibbs and Ken Walker.
40:39So let's get through that wide receivers are Zay and T and then your flex is just like what probably Parker Washington, to be honest.
40:46And then you got two tight ends. Do I trade one of the running backs for a top tier, top end tight end?
40:52So maybe you didn't tell us, is this like a two tight end?
40:56Why, why, why would you do that? I think I'm guessing maybe that maybe, um, Cameron views fanon as on his way down.
41:03Cause I know there are a lot of people that are kind of excluding fanon out of the high end elite options
41:09because of playing for the Browns and the new, uh, rookie receivers coming through very strong there.
41:14So I get that, but I don't think you need to, I don't think you need to it all.
41:19One thing you could do is if you could pack it.
41:22Cause like, I get what you're getting at. He has Gibbs Walker and Derek Henry.
41:27Um, and now he's battling. Now I realized Derek Henry is probably your, uh, your flex option or Parker Washington.
41:32If you wanted to take Marshawn Lloyd and take the hype of that and then pair fan in with him and you
41:39could upgrade and get a Tucker craft or, um, uh, yeah.
41:42Like in that range and that had to be higher for me to make that.
41:46Who the hell am I? Why can't I say the name?
41:49Um, Warren, Tyler Warren. I couldn't say Tyler Warren.
41:52Tyler Warren would be the one I'd be trying to target.
41:55But I will notice that maybe the issue is that they've got conception and fan.
41:59And so maybe it's trying to get around that of the double up there, but still, I mean, but you have a lot of cap.
42:07If, I mean, if anything, Loki, I might upgrade, uh, you know, see what I could buy with those running backs for
42:13a higher end wide receiver one, maybe of anything.
42:15I think you're fine. I like that idea. If you could trade Derek Henry and you could upgrade, um, if you could
42:22trade Derek Henry and T Higgins together and you could combo and get like, would you do that for Drake London or is that not enough?
42:29You need a little bit more. I just don't think you can get like a Jefferson or I just don't think you can get those type of guys.
42:37I think you might be able to get a Jefferson.
42:40All right. I think you could let me, you, did you not like, did you, you think Fannin and Marshawn Lloyd would take more than Tyler Warren?
42:48You would need like a Loveland? Really? Yeah. Because I think you need to go ahead and value Lloyd.
42:53I understand that it's not, the season hasn't started.
42:56We don't know how this backfield is going to pan out, but I think you need to capitalize on the assumption that
43:02we are not going to see Josh Jacobs, that he, that Lloyd has the priority there as the RB one, and that this is a run heavy offense.
43:10So you can sell a dream there and don't, don't sell low.
43:14Cause for all we know legitimately, if the man were to play a full season and make it through, yeah, he could, he could put up.
43:21I don't hate it. I'm just, I'm taking Caleb Johnson at the end of every draft now.
43:26So, um, I, you know, taking some first team reps, but yeah, I mean, maybe I'm underselling it too.
43:31Maybe you, Hey, what about just Marshawn Lloyd straight up for Tyler Warren?
43:35Yeah. I mean, I think that could still play.
43:38So I think we gave you Cameron a lot of different options.
43:41You can kind of work with a wallaby 10 man, PPR B John at one, one to have in both leagues.
43:47Um, yeah, every single league you can have B John and have him.
43:51It's glorious and be happy with it. Love it.
43:54Uh, shade grade, please. 12 team, full PPR two wide receiver, two running back to flex.
43:58We've got golf and Knicks. Um, look, Jamar. Yeah.
44:01Jamar London, Jamar chase London. Oh God. I could not.
44:04I guess the extra R wasn't there. I was missing that.
44:07Uh, Jamar London, Javante price, Laporta, Tootin Watson, Bench is Godwin, Johnston, Ferguson.
44:10We got lane plus some handcuffs here. So your starters, you've got Jamar and London at wide out sick Javante and let's
44:17just call it Tootin at running back. And then two flex, you could probably put out price and Watson.
44:22So I kind of, I kind of like that.
44:25I mean, maybe if you don't want what, maybe there's a little bit of a opening there for price, but what do you think?
44:32What are you going to grade this 12th team?
44:34This is pretty strong. This is a, I like this a lot.
44:38This is an effective use of punting quarterback to an appropriate range there with golf and Knicks.
44:43I like the double up just in case the wide receiver start for you in the fact that you were able to
44:49still get Javante as a solid RB one. I love your wide receiver depth.
44:53Love your wide receiver depth. Yeah. So yeah, I'm going to give this a, I think it's an a yeah.
44:59I mean, I like a little bit better quarterback, but Knicks is like, Knicks is such a good deal.
45:04And I like that you actually did too. I think a lot of people do that.
45:09They'll be like, Oh, I got Bo Knicks and I'm just good.
45:12And I'm set, but you got like two guys that you can interchange.
45:16Like that's my play. I know a lot of people don't like to do two quarterbacks in a 12 team, but if
45:22I'm like outside the top 10, like why not just give me two of those guys?
45:27I prefer kind of Kyler. If I had Kyler and Bo Knicks and I could interchange them, like sick.
45:32That makes me feel really good about trying to create a number one quarterback, unless you screw up and you make all
45:39the wrong options and you start them incorrectly. Jason.
45:41What's up, Jason? 12 team PPR is Caleb Williams, James Cook, Hampton, JJ neighbors, Andrews, uh, benches, uh, Jonathan Brooks, DJ Moore,
45:47Jamo Parker, Washington, Jesus dude, Wilson, Jonah Coleman. Who do I drop?
45:51Kincaid is on waivers. Absolutely. Nobody. No, but Andrews, if you want to do it, you drop Andrews for Kincaid.
45:57You don't drop a single position player on that team.
45:59I have them ranked back to back. Honestly, I would rather see, you know, what kind of juice Andrews have has left and call it a day.
46:07And Hey, if it doesn't work out, you got waivers 10 teams.
46:11So yeah, dude, just here's a reminder. I don't mean to dude everybody here, but DJ Moore, Jamison Williams, Parker, Washington, Michael Wilson.
46:17Those are your four wide receivers on your bench, Brooks and Jonah Coleman on your bench at running back.
46:23I mean, I suppose you could like shore that up a little bit, but that's not the question.
46:28It's just, you can't drop a single one of those players for Kincaid.
46:32So yeah, I'm, I'm indifferent. I would probably go Kincaid over Andrews cause I don't believe in it, but I know a
46:38lot of smart people you agree and you're there, uh, that Andrews is the one.
46:42So whatever you want to do, bro. Yeah, exactly.
46:45You can bro from the baseball. Look at my face there.
46:48Isn't that the worst someone screened? This is where that came from, by the way, someone screenshotted that and then put that as like a promotional tweet.
46:56And I had an, a whole meltdown. I was like, who looked at that picture and was like, let's put that in a tweet.
47:03I look insane. I mean, I am a little insane, but that looked insane.
47:07Did it have the bra on it too? Yeah, no, we put the bra because I brought everybody.
47:12I was like, what are we doing, dude? Bro.
47:14All right, Colin thoughts on my team, 12 team, uh, half PPR one flex.
47:18My RB two is weak. Yes. Quarterbacks are man.
47:21Lawrence love running backs for Hampton, Ramondre Brooks, Mason, Mitchell, Emmett Johnson.
47:24Wide receivers are Jefferson Waddle Higgins downs lane with tight ends of Loveland and Kittle is, is this a super flex?
47:30Did he just not tell us it's not. So he just invested in, um, a little bit earlier in a QB two
47:37in a tight end too, then I would have ideally liked.
47:40And that's why you're a little weaker running back, but at least being weaker at running back, which, you know, you've got
47:46guys that all have potential for the most part, Mitchell, we obviously injury concerns already, buddy, but yeah, I mean, I am
47:52staring at this and it's like, yeah, you know, you're running back situation.
47:56Brooks might really pay you off. I guess I keep staring at may and Lawrence and it's just like, I would just trade one.
48:03I ain't gotta be honest with you. I might put may out there.
48:07Cause I think Trevor Lawrence can be a top five fantasy quarterback this year.
48:11If may could bring me back. I know he didn't get drafted this way, but if he could bring me back a
48:17high end running back, that's an upgrade. I would consider that.
48:20Cause I'm just not sure you need both of those.
48:23And if I had to do like may and Kittle together and package those, and you could go and get, um, I
48:29mean, I don't want to say Brees hall. Cause I'm not into Brees hall, but that range.
48:34But that's the range. Yeah. I mean, even a, to be honest with you, even a tootin, even a may for tootin
48:41or something like that would be good. So I would consider something like that thoughts on the team.
48:46It's just a strong thing. Your wide receivers are sick.
48:49You've got, a high end tight end, a high end quarterback.
48:52He did so many things, right? You just need to figure out how to upgrade that running back position without something awesome happening for you.
48:59You know, Ken Walker goes down and the chance the Johnson becomes amazing.
49:03Jonathan Brooks just takes over. Like, I think this team is so good.
49:06You should figure out how to not have to have something like that happen to make your team amazing.
49:12Yeah. But great question. Uh, Mike half PPR number one pick.
49:15Am I crazy to want Jay Williams at the two at Javante Williams at the two, three turn is my running back
49:21two has an elite offense, great offensive line and not split in the backfield with anyone.
49:26So you're essentially saying number one pick. You're going to go what Bijan or Jameer Gibbs.
49:31And then at the two, three turn, you want to reinvest and you want to do high end running back there.
49:37So is that a crazy thing? Cause if he's on the turn, he's going to get whatever the great wide receiver is.
49:43So do you think it's advantageous to pass up whatever that running or that wide receiver looks like to have a two RVs?
49:49If that is the guy that you want, that is perfectly fine.
49:53Because when we're looking at Javante, he's not going to make, he's a, he's the three Oh five.
49:58So that's not that you take him there or it's not going to make it back to you.
50:03So yeah, I'm okay with that. But who else would you, who else?
50:07Yeah. Big, big, big, but here is if a lava is there here, here's on ECR.
50:12Here are the players that are there at 24 down.
50:14Olave, Neighbors, Devonta Smith, Zay Flowers, Kyron Williams, maybe Rasheed Rice and maybe George Pickens.
50:19Can you take Javante over any two of those players?
50:22No, but he's at the turn. So he can do one in both.
50:25So you can go to Olave and Javante. No, that's my point though.
50:29He could take Olave and Neighbors. Like my point is, is would you take Javante over, you have to take them over two of those players?
50:36So it depends on your risk tolerance because I drafts look beautiful when you do that 100%, but running back runs do
50:43happen and you come around to yours in the fourth and then you're staring down Quench on Judkins.
50:48It happens, right? So there is the risk. So I agree with you.
50:52I would ideally like that. And I'm okay with taking the risk and hoping that a Swift makes it back to me,
50:58a Travis CTN maybe, but if not, you just got to deal with the reality of saying, Hey, um, I might have
51:04to end up going doubling up in the mid tier RB two range or low end RB two range and saying, I
51:11got to take a, a toot and enterprise back to back.
51:14So what about a Gentie versus Javante? I think if Gentie was there, if Gentie was there, I would take it.
51:20He is dropping. So I would take Gentie over Javante.
51:23Yeah. I think you could do it, but I think when push comes to shove, you're going to stare at the players
51:29and you're going to be like, ah, you know what I would do?
51:33She plug, go into the draft simulator and play around with this scenario.
51:36Just take the one spot, put in your league settings and see what a couple of the scenarios.
51:42And you could, you don't have to do it against people.
51:45You could just do the bots, which is ECR.
51:47And then you could see what those scenarios look like and play around with it and see what you think about that.
51:54Because I think you're going to be faced with just such good options, especially at wide receiver.
51:58You're not going to want to do it, but I will say wide receiver is deep in that fourth, fifth round where
52:05if like one of like a Buka or something falls that you could justify it.
52:09I just wonder if there's going to be too many good options.
52:13So go play around with that. Very, very good question.
52:15Love those ones. Mr. Ruthless, number two pick full PPR.
52:18Should I go for a wide receiver or RB or RB?
52:21RB wide receiver, wide receiver also, who should, my brain is fried here.
52:25So what combination of wide receiver RBs do you want to do with the number two pick in a full PPR?
52:31With the number two pick, I am taking Bijan.
52:34So Bijan for me, and then I'll come around.
52:36And as you're saying, you just named all the wide receivers that you can ideally have once you come around in the second there.
52:43So I'm going Bijan, wide receiver, wide receiver. And then again, I will risk it and hope that Travis CT and type
52:50will make it back to me in that fourth round.
52:52I think I'm also going RB, wide receiver, wide receiver.
52:55But I'm very comfortable if I need to make that change.
52:58It says my fault to say rounds two and three.
53:01If they just say wide receiver running back, I think that's what I meant.
53:05Yeah. I think at this point, RB, wide receiver, wide receiver is probably the most likely situation, but I think maybe the
53:12most important part of this is RB. Like I'm going Bijan or Jameer Gibbs with the two pick.
53:17And then let's figure out what else happens. I will, um, yeah, I mean, you're going to get at least one receiver with one of those two picks.
53:25I just think as mentioned with the other one, we're just so much more likely to do that.
53:30One and two, you've got luxury picks. You take your running backs and you don't have to worry about it.
53:36Yeah, exactly. Uh, all right. We actually, we have another one that just snuck in here.
53:40Chase, I'm in an 18 PPR. I'm at six.
53:43I want two running backs and then wide receiver later.
53:46Should I go six JT or cook and then 11 Saquon or chase Brown if available.
53:50So what combination would, uh, except JGB, you're all these initials to be gone in this.
53:55Okay. So he's having the expectations of some of those players going, let's just do what he said, JT or cook, which
54:01I think you're definitely a JT person. I am JT, but it's, it's close.
54:05It's not that deep. I mean, cook is very, very reliable.
54:08I like cook in this scenario, but I have no problem with JT.
54:12And then Saquon or chase Brown. I have Saquon ranked higher.
54:15Um, so I would in fact, now it's full PPR.
54:18So you might be more inclined to go with a combination of JT and chase Brown, but I would shoot for the
54:24upside there of JT and Saquon for pure volume.
54:27Uh, I, I like chase Brown. So we're on opposite ends of this.
54:31I'm like cooking chase Brown, but I think those guys are also close in that range.
54:35I will say like, obviously Bichon's like a bit, if CMC was there, that's a smash for me, but you were JT,
54:42I think over CMC, uh, at six. So you're still JT.
54:45I would be a CMC over that group. Uh, Steve had a question earlier that, uh, I think it was super chatted
54:51and we missed so, or it just wasn't up.
54:54So we'll get that. I'm in a 12 team keeper league auction.
54:57My keepers are Daniels, Hampton, Jutkins, Burden, Domonta Smith and Loveland.
55:00I've got two flex positions and a wide receiver slot open.
55:03I've got 87 of 200 left to use. Um, I would, if you're looking at like what money you should be looking
55:10with two flexes and a wide receiver, I would go hardcore on the wide receiver spot, but okay.
55:15Here's a question of $87. Would you want to try to do an even split or would you go 50, 25, 25,
55:21as in 50% goes to one position and then you go lower 25, 20, I'm a big percentage guy in auctions.
55:27I did that last night. I make a spreadsheet and I go in and I do a projected money of what I
55:34want at the position and the players. And then I adjust live in drafts.
55:38So that's why I'm using percentages, but would you go heavy into one of those positions or would you want an even distribution?
55:44You know, I think I would lean in too heavy at wide receiver.
55:48And it's not that I don't, I I'm okay with relying on Devante Smith as your wide receiver one, but because of
55:54the riskiness of the Philadelphia offense, I might want to make sure that I share up something comparable to Devante Smith.
56:00So I've got two like high borderline wide receiver one types.
56:03So I would probably lean a little heavier on wide receiver.
56:07Yeah. And you could do like, um, 40, 40, 20, you know, for, so 40% of that budget.
56:12So it's a nine, 25 to $30, you know, on each of the two spots and then you go cheap on the final one.
56:19I think that's also an option, not trying to give you like too many or anything like that.
56:24So, um, all right. I think we had a super chat that we missed here.
56:28We will rock a little bit of, uh, we'll rock a little bit of a rapid fire here as much as we can, uh, rocking through here.
56:36Uh, probably, I would probably say I seen nib had a super chat, but no question.
56:40If our boy Sal finds it, we'll put that up.
56:43Probably say you guys don't want to super chat here, but if you do throw one, we'll do it, but there's the
56:50slight chance it could get missed because we're going to try to rapid fire.
56:54Uh, we're taking Scadaboo over Breece hall, Bucky and blah, blah, blah.
56:57Be a bad decision. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I'm sorry.
57:00Yeah. I'm not a Scadaboo guy, so I don't particularly like that.
57:03Um, okay. Sorry. Trying to do super chat. Uh, this is people talking.
57:07We don't want to have the, for, Oh, it looks, I'm not in the start.
57:11That's why, uh, what can I get in a trade for Marshawn Lloyd for the guy that drafted Jacobs?
57:17I think a, so we were kind of workshopping this earlier a little bit.
57:21I think you could get like a, uh, high, uh, mid tier wide receiver two.
57:25Maybe. Do you think you could get a Buka?
57:28I don't think you can. No, you have to go a little lower.
57:31Maybe low and wide receiver two. Mike Evans? Kind of.
57:34Yeah. Well, I, which I wouldn't do because of all the, but that, that range of like a flip for a Jameson, like that kind of like a.
57:42Yeah. Roma Dunze, Jameson, Christian Watson kind of range.
57:45That would be what we're trying. We're not trying to give you the actual name.
57:49We're just trying to give you the general range.
57:52Yeah. Uh, rapid fire. I'm not doing a good job.
57:55Do running backs, Mike Washington, Algier and Bigsby have PPR standalone value.
57:58I definitely think Algier does. I'll be honest with you.
58:01When you look at the underlying metrics on Bigsby, you're just like, how do they keep him off?
58:06I know you have to say one, but how do you keep it?
58:10I would say if I had to pick one, Algier has early season production.
58:14I think that's what I would want to be focused on, but I think Bigsby might be one of the sexiest handcuffs out there.
58:21Yeah. Especially when PPR, I feel like the committee portion we're seeing with Washington will lean more on the ground versus reception.
58:27So I would lean Algier as well. Would you trade Jonathan Brooks for Josh Jacobs?
58:31Nope. No. Nope. Too scary. Absolutely not. Uh, what are your thoughts on HN and Devante Adams in general?
58:37Uh, yay and meh. I love Devante Adams and best ball.
58:40It's going to be, you know, it could be a little stressful in terms of the, but I think the touchdown upside
58:46is still going to be high red zone looks.
58:49So I'm pro ish as a wide receiver three type, get a value on that.
58:53And I'm very pro ETN with Alvin Kamara's entry.
58:56Oh, right. Uh, Tara shirt looks just like the first rush album.
58:59Now I think that might've been Scott fish is going for.
59:02Yeah. I think that's what they were doing there.
59:05Uh, thoughts on picking a tight end, uh, Bowers McBride or Loveland with the first, uh, with within first three rounds.
59:11So yay or nay on high end tight end.
59:13Yay. I'm, I'm pro, uh, Bowers and McBride. I don't want to do Loveland in the third round.
59:19If I have to do Bowers, I'm comfortable with that.
59:22In a 10 team, I'm at the one three.
59:24Who do I go for? Assume Gibbs and Bijon out of the picture.
59:28I just had the three, but it was in a 16 team and it was Jamar Chase.
59:33It used to be Puka, but the, all the stuff is kind of concerning me.
59:37So I think it's pretty easy. Jamar Chase. Yeah.
59:40Chase. Yep. I'd like to say, uh, CMC, but it's not love or Danny dimes.
59:44Love. Love. More volume. Yeah. I'm trying to get a few, uh, questions.
59:48Oh, it's a me that aren't too heavy. What's up, Chris?
59:51What's up? Uh, who are the top three in the list of handcuffs?
59:54Jonah Coleman, Keon Black, Emmett Johnson, Vidal, and Jalen Warren.
59:57It is, uh, not that order. It's Jonah Coleman.
60:00Number one with a bullet, Emmett Johnson. And if I were handcuffing CMC, it's Jordan James is where I would go.
60:06So that would be the three. So I guess Coleman and Emmett of yours are the only ones I care about.
60:12Um, it is Coleman then Vidal for me and then Johnson.
60:15Okay. Yeah. Um, this was the super chat that was not pick 12, 13.
60:19Do you trust the depth that wide receiver in rounds three, four enough to go double running back at the turn or skipping receiver way too early?
60:27I have no, I love it because three, four, you can get, uh, a combo of Tedaroa.
60:32Um, I'm just really, really high in egg booker this year, but you can also get waddle in that range.
60:37So I love it. Yep. Same. Okay. And that running back would probably look like what?
60:42Like it can be your H and, and, uh, maybe Barkley or something like that.
60:46Yeah. That's a common combination there. Chase Brown. It can be one of those picks.
60:51So yeah. All right. A couple of, Ooh, a couple of risky riskers with the late super chats that might not get answered.
60:5712 team dynasty PPR tight end premium. Oh my gosh.
61:00This is not a lightning round trade Bowers, Monongah to get Jinty pits the 27 first.
61:05Uh, it's an 11 team with a wild roster here.
61:08So would you in a tight end premium? I'm not trading Bowers.
61:11So that's just, yeah, I'm not interested. I don't think I will either.
61:15Okay. No, uh, run breezy 12 man PPR quarterbacks, Jaden Daniels, dart running backs are Jinty Williams, Jutkins, Warren wide receivers are awesome.
61:21Uh, you got Puka, Rice waddle and a tight end is strange in a con quo.
61:26Good. Uh, your tight end stink and they stink hard.
61:29Your running backs are a little risky, but you've got really good depth.
61:33Um, yeah, I think this is like a, again, I guess I'm giving a lot of B pluses.
61:38I don't think it's an A because your tight end suck, but, uh, I like everything else.
61:43Yeah. You should be streaming at tight end. It's not that deep.
61:46It's okay. Yeah. Okay. Um, so you want to do a couple of minutes of overtime?
61:51Yeah, let's do it. We'll do a couple of minutes of overtime because we love you guys and it's draft season.
61:57It's important. Uh, lots of questions queued. We ain't going to get to them.
62:01Please don't drop any more super chats too. Cause then I'm going to just like go the rest of my day feeling
62:07bad if we didn't get them, but I do want to get a few more questions in here.
62:12Cause we love you. Uh, cranky keep Devonta in the fourth or HN in the fifth.
62:17This is a 12th team PPR happy PR. It's still Devonta for me.
62:20Yes, it is Devonta. Fantasy pros 12th team PPR is a bet on Alec Pierce or Quentin Johnson growing into a reliable wide receiver to fair.
62:28I got neighbors at wide receiver one. Absolutely not.
62:30I love both of those guys. I am really growing on Quentin Johnston.
62:34Pierce is a little bit banged up, not as a fantasy wide receiver too, though.
62:39You, you must, you better have like Bowers and then amazing running backs and all the other stuff.
62:44Cause those are not wide receiver twos. If I was picking one Pierce has the best upside of them, but I think Quentin Johnson is wildly sneaky.
62:51I'm pro Quentin Johnston. I would start theoretically at some point.
62:55Quentin Johnson is a wide receiver too, probably fairly early in the season.
62:58But if that's the case for you, you're probably running risky with depth in general.
63:03So I would not go that direction. I love him as a pick, but like a flex goal.
63:08You sneaky. You did this, uh, CMC's handcuff. Cam Black could end up being the guy, but Jordan James has been the guy knows the system better.
63:15He's back from the fractured rib and he's the number two right now.
63:19If CMC goes down, I think what you should be worried about is it's a combo of those two players and it's
63:26not one, but it is to me, it's Jordan James.
63:28That's where I'm sitting at. All right, let's do a couple more Bentley best strategy to win a 10 team half PPR
63:35league, one quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, tight end, couple of flex.
63:39Don't care about the rest of that stuff. Um, I would in a, in a half PPR with two running back and
63:45two wide receiver, I would make sure I go probably go a little bit earlier running back.
63:50That would be my hyper focus. And then I would most likely want my flexes in a perfect world.
63:55My flexes are one running back and one wide receiver.
63:58Tootin is a really good flex. I like, uh, if I could get that with early running back and then honestly, like
64:05a Parker Washington as well, but a little bit more priority, uh, running back for me.
64:09Yeah. I would prioritize running back, you pick and choose between what you're doing in terms of the, cause you have an extra flex spot there.
64:17So pick and choose in terms of, if you're pushing QB back or tight end back, probably QB.
64:22Uh, so I decided to take Stevenson over Brooks and Blake Corum over Lloyd.
64:26Am I crazy? You don't like upside. You like floor, you like floor.
64:29You don't like fun. Um, it's not crazy, but it's not what I would be.
64:34I don't care about the Corum over Lloyd one as much.
64:37I care about the Brooks, uh, the Stevenson over Brooks one.
64:40That means more to me. And you might be a little crazy, but sometimes crazy is okay.
64:45It's all right. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't know how young you are, but crazy is for college.
64:50So if you're young, then, you know, just get a little crazy.
64:54It's all good, man. That's where you got to get out of your system.
64:58All right, let's do two more. Team drop Josh Jacobs in our 10 team standard league with a 500 fab budget.
65:04How much would you suggest to bid based on the current news of Jacobs?
65:0825%. Is that too much? What, I mean, that's what would you do?
65:12That's a lot. Um, I would put in a claim, a very modest claim, maybe 3% and you're probably not going to
65:18get it, but it is what it is. I'm sorry.
65:21Like, especially considering you'll have to hold onto him for a while.
65:24So just imagine you're going to have to hold that spot.
65:27So it depends on how deep, how deep is your bench?
65:31Uh, 15% is even a little risky, but if it's a competitive, here's the problem.
65:35It's a competitive league. Like people are going to put in big bids.
65:39So I'm just not a hundred percent sure that I don't want to go over 20%.
65:43I think that's, you're already kind of burning it.
65:46I think he could be done for the season.
65:48Uh, I get the risk tolerance, 15%. You know, if someone wants to pay over 20%, okay, great.
65:54That's one more person that's out, but I think that's kind of scary.
65:57Uh, all right. Final one here, unless there's anything sneaking.
66:00Nope. Uh, rice or McConkie and full PPR rice has been trending down.
66:04Lad is kind of neutral in some spots. Uh, what say you?
66:07I still have rice higher, especially in full PPR.
66:10I do too. I'm not as much of a lad guy.
66:13Um, yeah, just cause I think he needs a high, high target percentage this year.
66:17And that maybe, you know, Keenan Allen's gone, but I think Trey Harris is going to step up, but I would, I would lean Rishi rice.
66:25Cause at worst, what is he going to do?
66:27He's just going to get a bunch of catches.
66:30Maybe the touchdown equity goes down. So very, very good, very good question.
66:34Uh, guys, we got to a whole bunch of them and, uh, I don't know what else to do for you guys.
66:40We got to a billion questions. Great job on all of you in the super chats.
66:45And I would tell you, if you guys have got drafts this weekend, we still got you covered.
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