0:00Sometimes it is just as important to know who not to draft as it is who to draft. Who to avoid versus who to
0:06target. So today's show, the five wide receivers we would not touch with a 10-ft pole based on their current draft slot. Hayden, take it away. Who's name
0:13number one?
0:13>> This pains me because I've loved Courtland Sutton, but I do have him as a strict fade here. He's going to be 30
0:19years old. In comes Jaylen Waddle. If you just look at the history of the Shawn Peyton offense, a lot of like
0:23quick hitting stuff, a lot of manufactured touches. Those were never going to Courtland Sutton. Those are definitely gonna be going to Jaylen
0:29Wadd. We still have to worry about Marvin Mims, Troy Franklin, RJ Harvey, some of the tight end stuff they have.
0:34So, I just think that the Corland target share is going to drop from 21% last year. He was the wide receiver, 19
0:40expected points. I think he's got not come close to those numbers just because I think that Jaylen Wadd obviously trade a firstrounder plus for him. They're
0:49going to have a huge game plan there.
0:50He's still priced as a wide receiver three. I think he's going to be a very inconsistent wide receiver for half PPR
0:56best baseball. It's okay. A lot of you guys play full PPR reddraft. I think the target shares are going to come down.
1:01And last note for him. The Broncos are 21st in projected points right now in the betting markets. Last year, the Broncos fully healthy offensive line. Bo
1:09Nicks was healthy. Coron Sutton was healthy. They were 15th in scoring. So, I think some regression just based off of the a really lucky season from the
1:16Broncos on offense. Uh, I think that's just going to a slight tick down as Bick comes off this ankle injury. Uh, too
1:23many red flags for Well, and the other thing we talk about is when your defense can literally win you games, your
1:27offense doesn't have to score as many points. So, while so often people site, well, bad defenses lead to us scoring more fantasy points, the two best
1:35defenses in the league or three best, uh, can prevent your offense from, you know, having to chase that ceiling every single time. Right now, Court Sutton is
1:42the wide receiver 38, the eighth pick of the seventh round. It's interesting. The markets think he's going to hang on to
1:47those receiving totals. He's projected for around 775 receiving yards. That's more than Brian Thomas Jr. who is going ahead of Courtland Sutton. That's more
1:56than Parker Washington who is going ahead of Courtland Sutton. That's more than Mai Lemon who is going ahead of Courtland Sutton. So, one area for me
2:04that he might be able to jump up a little bit. It's interesting when you look back at the 2025 Denver Broncos,
2:12Troy Franklin actually led this team in targets inside of the 20 yard line with 18. Caught 14 of those for four
2:21touchdowns. I mean, a 77% catch rate in that area of the field, uh, that might be one of, if not the highest
2:28percentages across the NFL.
2:30>> And I wouldn't be surprised if Troy Franklin is now like the wide receiver of four on this team behind Jaylen
2:35Waddle, Courtland Sutton, and Pat Bryant. And so, I do wonder since he was second last year, Sutton, if he can do
2:42better than, you know, just six receptions on 17 targets inside the red zone last year.
2:46>> Yeah, some of those uh targets to Troy Franklin in the red area are like little bubble screens and stuff. everything.
2:51It's like big red zone fades where obviously Courtland Sutton could come down with eight touchdowns again this year. I'm playing the under on the
2:57underdog projections of the season long stuff. I just think those numbers are a tad too high for me.
3:02>> So basically your Courtton Sutton statement is uh I just want to take a lot of Jaylen Waddle at wide receiver 25
3:07at the 12th pick of the fourth round.
3:08>> I'll take the 27year-old who just spent a firstrounder plus uh for Shawn Payeyton over the 30-year-old. Yes.
3:14>> Right. Who Shawn Peyton is basically saying, "Yeah, he's going to totally change our offense. Like he is the player that's going to take us over the
3:19top." Yeah, I I can totally buy that.
3:21Okay. Uh I want to talk about Malik Neighbors. Malik Neighbors, awesome talent right now. Wide receiver 14, the seventh pick of the third round. Uh but
3:30let's also keep in mind that he had ACL reconstruction and a lateral meniscus repair. I just want to take everyone through the timeline here. On April 7th,
3:38we get from John Harbaugh that Malik Neighbors won't be on the field until quote into training camp and closer to the season. Then a month later, May
3:4613th, we learned that Malik Neighbors underwent a quote cleanup procedure on his knee in the previous weeks, removed scar tissue that was coughing stiffness
3:54in his knee during rehabilitation, and that they are hopeful for week one. A week later, May 22nd, John Harbaugh says the team is not sure when Malik
4:02Neighbors will return to the field. Not a quote simple knee maintained that a return by camp is still the goal, but
4:09said the team will see what happens. Uh this must be the most optimistic, the most positive moments for all these players and coaches and teams during
4:18this period. And it feels like with Malik Neighbors Hayden that we are getting like more and more negative the closer we get to training camp. I mean
4:27we're talking about an injury in week four of last season in October and the s and the timeline is still incredibly
4:35murky. So, I'm a bit nervous and I would love to get your take on this. If we're going to an outcome where he misses
4:41multiple games, where he sits multiple games and I wonder if we don't see his best until, I don't know, week eight of
4:48the regular season. And then I look at who is being drafted around Malik Neighbors at this point in the middle of
4:54the third round and it's after him. It's Z Flowers, T. Higgins, and then wide receivers we think that can like win
5:01leagues this year and maybe lad Mac, Garrett Wilson, and Mechbuka. So, while the ADP, and we'll get into that in a
5:07moment, has taken a downturn here from League Neighbors over the last few weeks, I still think it's too expensive for where I want to take him because I
5:13think it's only going to drop the closer we get to the season.
5:16>> Yeah, I didn't love that softball game where he was running down the first baseline. It did not seem like he was
5:21moving cleanly. The ACL plus set back there. My assumption is he's back in week five. I think he's going to start
5:28the season on the PUP list, not just training camp, but the actual PUP list.
5:32I would be surprised if we get good news in training camp. So, I think his ADP is going to continue to drop just a little
5:38bit. I've got him ranked 38th overall.
5:40So, after a couple of those names that you just listed there. The hard part is that once he gets back, if he's fully
5:47healthy, like he's going to dominate that. I just don't think that like the baseline assumption should be he's ready to go after like a slow off season that
5:54he's like the same Malik neighbors that we're accustomed to. So, I wouldn't be surprised if he's like, you know, the wide receiver 12 in points from week
6:01eight on, uh, but not the wide receiver three, which we've had at times here.
6:06So, uh, if you want to take the risk, uh, I'm okay with it. I kind of like the risk a little bit more in reddraft
6:12leagues because what, six out of 12 teams make the playoffs where in best only two out of the 12 teams make the
6:18playoffs. It's a little bit harder to advance if you're going to be taking a bunch of zeros. The other part of this
6:22is oftentimes in round one and round two and especially let's say if you are drafting from the seventh slot right now
6:29then you can start Chris McCaffrey and Derrick Henry. Do you really want Malik Neighbors who might not be at full strength until about week eight to be
6:35your wide receiver one off the board?
6:37Like that is sacrificing five, six, seven games uh from your number one wide receiver that you drafted. Like that gets, you know, just murky for me. I I
6:45wonder like on Labor Day you guys come back to the channel and he's now at 40th overall and Josh was like, "All right,
6:50now it's time for us to go all in." The ADP has fallen enough. I just don't think that the ADP is not always gonna
6:55be like and he's back up. I think it's more likely he's going to fall another five spots than it is for him to climb
7:00five more.
7:01>> And you always talk about how it's difficult for players to drop versus climb because when they drop, people think that they're just getting ADP
7:09value and so that takes just much longer. Guess what? we're about to have a month of silence and I think it'll
7:16only go in that direction. But if he just returns, I don't know, the last week of August somehow and is at
7:21training camp, then we'll see a spike, you know, immediately. And so just right now of where he's going, the seventh pick of of the third round, uh, you
7:29know, despite dropping eight spots and that's dropped from the wide receiver nine to wide receiver 14, I still don't think this is like the the bottom value
7:35that we're going to get with league neighbors in drafts this summer.
7:37>> He's a hell of a football player, which this is just not the year. And >> and they need him. I mean, the wide
7:41receivers, it's Darius Leightton and Malachi Fields, and we can go down the list.
7:45>> The other part of this is, you know, the Giants also talking a lot about we're going to run the football, yada yada.
7:50Not necessarily pass first, but uh they'll be passing more if Malik Neighbors is on the field. That's for sure.
7:56>> All right, my next name is Jacobe Myers.
7:58Pretty similar conversation to the Courtland Southern. I'll make this one pretty tough. From week 11 on, that's when he was a full-time player for for
8:04Jacksonville. This includes the playoff games. He was the wide receiver 26. Uh that was when Brian Thomas forgot how to play football. That was without Travis
8:13Hunter. And then that was uh also with Parker Washington in the middle of a breakout. I think that Parker Washington's tape is actually pretty
8:20good. Brian Thomas is lighting things up uh in training camp. They drafted a blocking tight end. Not only have did they block or they draft him in the
8:29second round in the offseason period, they've like doubled down on how important he is to the point where I think that there's going to be some two
8:36wide receiver sets, some more tight end involvement here and not much of three wide receiver sets. Jacobe Myers is a glue guy. You don't get that many
8:42fantasy points for glue guy stuff. I think that there's a chance that uh Brian Thomas breaks out in a big way.
8:47Parker Washington can use continues to ascend or if Travis Hunter gets there uh gets involved as a wide receiver four if
8:55not more than that Jacobe Meyers kind of is like he's a he's a wide receiver four wide receiver five in fantasy so he's
9:02just drafted too high got ranked 125th overall I think there's more exciting names uh all around them >> it's interesting not often do we
9:09disagree to this extent but I think I disagree with a lot of your points that you made about Jacobe Myers um the first
9:14one is that I think he's going to be out there in two wide receiver sets. Like if you go and read John Shipley, he noted
9:21that Jacobe Myers and yes, it's the dreaded run blocking uh reasoning, but that's what he's getting out there in two wide receivers. And he basically
9:29then will rotate the Parker Washington, Brian Thomas Jr. stuff. And look, that's all fluid. Who knows? I still think, you know, the 11 personnel, three wide
9:36receiver sets is their best personal grouping, the most talented personal grouping. But again, you don't spend a second round pick in Bor Kercher uh and
9:42not use him.
9:44>> Yeah. you know, player that they loved and wanted to quote unquote shock the world. I guess where I do agree with you
9:49is that even when last year and you look at when everything settled for this team, Jacobe Myers was playing a lot at
9:57that point. Like if you go from week 12 and on, that was 84% 92 83 87 88 94%.
10:05Again, every single game he played the most wide receiver snaps on the team. It still wasn't like a huge outcome. You
10:11know, it was wide receiver 27 in points per game during that stretch. So, >> could you make the case that even if he
10:18plays technically fewer snaps, could Parker Washington outscore him because he's more explosive? Could Brian Thomas Jr. outscore him? Yes. I I think that's
10:26fair. But that's also to me why they are being selected before him and Jacobe Myers is the wide receiver three among
10:31all Jaguars right now.
10:33>> It's just not very often that we get the third wide receiver in an offense to be fantasy relevant. And that's not even
10:39counting, you know, we have Brenton Strange who we like and Basil Tuton's going to get some uh receptions this year and you know Travis Hunter the
10:47second overall pick uh is still a threat. So I just think on a baseline thing it's fine like baseline projection he's kind of priced where he is. There's
10:54just like other ways where I think this thing could get sideways and even last year late down the stretch Brian Thomas
10:59wasn't healthy on top of things. So like not only was he not playing well he like was missing time during the Jacobe Myers
11:04run. I think there's a lot more things that are be coming his way and I just would be surprised if they're like we
11:09got to get this offense schemed around Jacobe Myers when you have all these more exciting pieces.
11:13>> I do think there is something to Jacobe stabilizing what they were trying to do like that intermediate over the middle
11:19stuff and hopefully Brian Thomas Jr. is more willing of doing that this year when he is healthy another year in the
11:25system and the offense and all that type of stuff. But, you know, the intermediate over the middle, catching traffic has been a staple of Lean Cohen
11:33dating back to his days with the Bucks.
11:34And Jacobe was very willing to do that.
11:37So, I get both sides of this one. But, I think I'm I'm more in disagreement here.
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12:04for me because my next name is is Alec Pierce. And don't get me wrong, Hayden, I mean, I think you and I, as the season
12:13was going along, were early in the Alec Pierce is, you know, transitioning his game into becoming a more complete wide receiver. Um, I mean, he's a legit NFL
12:24wide receiver is being paid as one right now. And you saw it as the season went along. Again, digs in and breakers on
12:29top of the single high vertical shots that they forced defenses into when Jonathan Taylor was running at a high level. We know that he led the NFL in
12:36yards per catch for the second straight season, 21.3 yards. But here's my question to you, Hayden. What is more concerning, Daniel Jones's Achilles
12:44injury that he's returning from or Alec Pierce's ankle surgery that he's returning from?
12:48>> Probably his own ankle is concerning. He looked pretty stiff in the video that we had here. Um there's a chance that this
12:53thing lingers into the season. Uh we'll see how much training camp experience he's going to get here. He did not want
12:58to have the surgery. Like that was what we learned here is that he was trying to have uh like rehab it and then realized
13:05this was not going to work out then got the surgery later in the offseason. Uh so yeah, it's concerning here. I I will
13:10say there's still I think a lot of upside for Alec Pierce. Um so I think that's what makes this difficult is like
13:16it's very obvious his ankle is turned backwards. That's not good for fantasy points. Uh, but with Michael Pitman gone, uh, and maybe the Colts aren't
13:24beating everybody by by 25 points at halftime this year, all of a sudden, Alec Pierce looks a lot better.
13:30>> My question, uh, was, what's more concerning, Jon's Achilles or Alec Pierce's ankle? The answer is both. It's a trick answer because with Alec
13:39Pierce's draft slot that you're selecting him with, you're drafting both. you know, you're hoping Jay Jones comes back and plays like the top 12
13:47quarterback that he did when Alec Pierce, you know, uh, had a heck of a season. And obviously, Alec Pierce had production with the other quarterbacks
13:54they had out there on the field, too.
13:56But you're also looking at a skill position talent that is going to be using that ankle every single time. As you said, they
14:03tried to avoid it at first. They were forced into the surgery. In April, we got a three-month recovery timeline from GM Chris Ballard. Then Alec Pierce on
14:12June 10th said it's actually going to be a four to sixmonth recovery and his goal is to return quote late in camp late. So
14:21he really hasn't fallen at all since that remark. I mean he fell three overall spots from 73rd to 76. And again
14:29I'm just going to take the stance that the draft slot is only going to drop more as more players show out in
14:35training camp in preseason action that are around him. I I'm with you. Alec Pierce is a heck of a talent. This has
14:42immense upside. I just think we're going to get even better value in a couple of weeks here.
14:47>> Yeah, the wide receivers going right after him. Kind of interesting. Like DK Mechaf similar to Alec Pierce and then Corland Sun who's just on my fades list.
14:53And then Jaden Reed part-time player and then Quinton Johnston I think would be an interesting kind of comp for him.
14:58Like those are the next names. And then Josh DS gets drafted the round after.
15:01Like would you straight up rather have Josh DS and Alec Pierce right right now?
15:05I think I would still be on team uh Alec Pierce just based off of the the more proven upside in fantasy, but um I I can
15:13see those guys being priced pretty close together uh in the next couple weeks.
15:18>> Yeah. And if you really want to game the system, I also believe if if he does return late in training camp that the
15:24opening four weeks or the four games will be slow and we know how long the season is and how often people panic,
15:30especially for, you know, where these guys are being drafted. Again, Alec Pierce right now is going in the seventh round and that might even be different
15:38in your home leagues. So, there's a trade window, I think, to go out and get Alec Pierce during that time, too.
15:43>> Yeah. Just do not discount how good Alec Pierce was. I mean, he scorched the the Texans twice down the stretch. He was a
15:49wide receiver 10 in his last four games.
15:50He was a wide receiver 23 over the entire course of the season. Obviously, there's some like negative progression on a lot of the downfield stuff with
15:57him. Um, but I do think that he was like a very good wide receiver down the stretch. So, boom, bust, I would say.
16:04>> And there's no one behind him. I mean, it's Nick Westbrook A is battling him and Josh Downs for two wide receiver set
16:10stuff, you know.
16:11>> Yep.
16:11>> Uh, I'm just relentlessly drafting Tyler Warren at this point. And we'll see how that goes. That goes for me. Okay. One
16:17more name for you. Who is it?
16:18>> I'll just go all the Titans wide receivers. Just came across a stat that I just could not shake. Um, no Titans
16:25player had more than 3.5 receptions per game last year. I mean, that's not good.
16:29Only Calvin Ridley cleared 33 yards per game. and that was at 44 yards and a half season there. So, we have just a
16:36bunch of new target competition in Janell Robinson and Cardinal Tate. I really like Carnell Tate individually. I do think this is a brand new offense for
16:46um Cam Ward. I thought the Cam Ward film was uh mildly concerning for like this year. I see the talent, but there was a
16:52lot of things I thought were just like, okay, like this seems like he's swimming a little bit. I'm not sure how much I
16:57trust trust Brian Dball here. Uh, and then all the offseason reports have been Cam Ward is really struggling. Like that's consistent. ESPN, uh, AZ Sports,
17:09you can look across, uh, the beat writers for the Titans, they're all saying Cam Ward is looking not that great right now. So for Carnell Tate,
17:18there's some players uh, that I like ahead of him in fantasy. And then in Juanell Robinson, I just don't think he's going to get the same exact target
17:26share. I don't think that he's a lock for two wide receiver sets. Calvin Ridley is still making like I think it's
17:31like $15 million this year as a 32-y old. He he's still healthy and involved.
17:35They have Elica Yumor. They have Shamir DK. They want they want to get involved.
17:39Like it can just be a little bit more spread out evenly than we want to admit.
17:43Uh and I think the pie that we're talking about here could be pretty concerning on a pretty bad Titans team.
17:50>> Interesting. Once again, we're on opposite ends of this. Like I I just brought up a couple videos ago how I
17:54think Carninal Tate is a great value and still stuck at that wide receiver 30 area. Namely because you know rarely do
18:01we get someone with this draft capital the fourth overall pick albeit in you know the 2026 NFL draft right >> and if it's a loss then it's like a
18:10small loss but when it's a win it's a massive win. But it kind of goes back to what you're saying if I'm reading
18:15between the lines with you Hayden you're kind of out on Cam Ward. Like you're at least down on Cam Ward. Obviously, you
18:21said that Jackson Dart would be your reddraft number one overall pick that year and then uh just reading between the lines here with Cardinal Tate and
18:28obviously Wanda where he's going in the 10th round. Uh just being overall out on this offense is really fascinating to me.
18:33>> Yeah, I mean there's clearly potential with Cam Moore like his best plays were awesome. I thought there was a lot of
18:37work between those and Cam Moore could be really good in year three, year four, but that's not the point of of this
18:44podcast. So, there's a lot of moving parts with a brand new offense, brand new coaching staff, brand new wide receiver one, brand new slot wide
18:50receiver. Uh, the offensive line is going to be miserable. I mean, look at the starting line. The line's going to be complete dog I didn't think
18:56that Cam Ward played that great under pressure. So, nothing against Carnell Tate. Go watch our our pre-draft video on Carninal Tate. I think he's really
19:03good. I just think like, could this be a Roma Dunay season for the Bears? Could this be Drake London finishes the wide
19:08receiver 41 on a on a bad Falcons team as a rookie? like I I I can see him being the wide receiver 40 and he's
19:16priced as the wide receiver 30.
19:17>> Do you think Wandelle is going to keep that kind of verticalness to his game?
19:20Like did he unlock that in his repertoire or is this more like hey we have no one that's like a quick winning
19:26wide receiver. He knows Brian Dball scheme and other than that we have more kind of downfieldish options.
19:31>> It's probably the latter. I mean he didn't have Malik Neighbors or anybody else down the field. That was like Jackson Dart buying time throwing the
19:37ball down the I think he's going to go back >> and Russ in that one game against the Cowboys.
19:40>> And and also just like the Cowboys defense just like forgot to run cover three.
19:45>> I think Colonel Tate again if it's a loss, it's like a small loss, but there's some like real if Kim Ward plays
19:51at a high level or above average level, then there's some like I think very positive outcomes we can get from there.
19:58Um, a couple weeks ago, by the way, I also had a video where I talked about DJ Moore and Omar Cooper kind of being out
20:03on their draft capital, but we'll end it there. We'll end it there after five names. I did want to go through since
20:09we're continuing this theme of, you know, updating injury news because we can kind of forget and stick in our bubble of, hey, all these players are
20:17healthy heading into training camp and right now we're getting OTAAS and mini camps and that's simply not the case.
20:22So, I know you brought about six names to go through quickly. Um, yeah, >> the first two are in New Orleans. Let's
20:28start with Chris Ave. Uh, he's dealing with blood clots, which is not something you want to hear about. In fact, I
20:34believe Kellen Moore said he's still recovering from them after they had to keep him out of week 18 game last year
20:39with these blood clots. Uh, what do you want to say here about Chris Lave?
20:42>> Yes, blood clots are concerning and then obviously the concussion history. He's doing the individual drills but not the team drills because they do not want him
20:50to uh have contact which just like most likely scenario this doesn't matter. In 10% of outcomes this this lingers and it
20:59becomes a big deal and like we're talking about a third round pick. So, uh, I this is just something I'm monitoring. And then the Jordan Tyson
21:05stuff is, I think, uh, equally fascinating because it's the hamstring injury. I mean, it was the hamstring injury 12 months ago and it was the
21:13hamstring injury, uh, throughout the combine and then all the way up to his pro day where he ran a couple routes.
21:19Um, and he's just has not been participating that much. Like, he's watching practices, he's doing the individual drills, and then he's just
21:27not participating with the team. Um, like it's a young young team. Obviously, they would want these guys to be out there. It's also June. So, like the
21:34these are strictly not fading them because of injuries, but I'm hoping that on August 1, like this is no longer a
21:41story, and it's right now these guys are priced. Uh, not overly aggressive, but they're like they're picks that matter.
21:48>> Yeah. Nick Underh Hill, the GOAT, uh, did say that quote, "They caught the blood clots early before anything bad could happen and that he will be fine."
21:56He's also hoping to get a new contract before training camp. It's interesting.
21:59Alive, despite being sidelined for all this stuff, has actually climbed in ADP since midmay uh from 33 overall to 29 overall, wide receiver 14 to wide
22:09receiver 12. So again, we're just trying to bring you up to date with all this injury stuff.
22:13>> Uh because it has really impacted some people's 80s BS, but then has actually done the inverse with others in a
22:20positive way.
22:21>> Round three, we've got Rishi Rice, Josh Jacobs, Malik Neighbors. We got some other guys with bigger bigger issues right now than than his. But his is a
22:28big deal >> on the Jordan Tyson stuff. Yeah. I mean, we think this is just a continuation from the draft process where he ran what
22:36like 12 routes at his workout. The ADP has not moved. But I kind of wonder if they're just being exceedingly careful
22:43with him or has the hammy popped up again. And the answer to that is unknown to those fuzz on the outside because
22:50they don't have to give injury reports during these OTAA activities. like they don't have to give updates at all. So, whatever information we do get, uh, you
22:58know, it's by the kindness of these GMs and head coaches, basically.
23:01>> Yeah. What makes it so hard is if one of these guys stays healthy and the other guy doesn't, then you're going to want
23:08to target these guys, you know? So, it's like kind of like a catch 22 where the fact that both of them are battling
23:13something right now is makes them have even more upside, but also a crazy low floor.
23:17>> Okay, let's talk about Rashid Rice next.
23:20Um, oh boy.
23:21>> Since midmay, he's dropped from 19 overall to 30th overall. Wide receiver 7 to wide receiver 13. Today he was released from jail after 30 days where
23:30he also, you know, did some knee rehab work and there was a video of him running away from cell phone cameras in
23:36the lobby of jail. Um, your thoughts on Rasheed Rice right now are what? because it sounds like the NFL is not going to
23:44take any more action in suspending him from this most recent uh not issue, but just continuation of what happened last year.
23:51>> Yeah, just the the failed drug test. Um I would be surprised if he got suspended, but it's still possible theoretically. Um the big takeaway is he
23:59was running out of jail, you know, so I mean the knee rehab must be at least in like somewhat of a good enough place
24:04because that reporter was trying to chase him down. So yeah, there's obviously a ton tons of risk here. Um there's plenty of time. It's June 16th,
24:11so there's still plenty of time for the Chiefs to feel comfortable, reintegrate him, and that he's going to be a high
24:17upside pick in the third round. So, I would say uh you never know what's coming next for Rasheed Rice. I do think
24:23his ADP is going to go back up. I think he's going to be out there in the first day of training camp and I think the
24:28reports are going to be Rashid Rice is still very important to the offense. So, I think that >> I think his ADP is gonna go up until the
24:34next shoe could drop and then he could be in the 80s. So, like I think that you should have whatever your default
24:40ranking is for Rushi Rice, discount it by 15 20%. And then that's your actual baseline for what uh he should be going
24:48as because you just can't trust him. But I think for the most part, this story is I think mostly behind us.
24:53>> We can kind of predict trends when it comes to drafting. When Rishi Rice goes out there and practices fully on the
25:00first day, his ADP will probably climb to the top of the third round, if not at like the round two, three turn. if he
25:06was a a normal citizen who also, you know, wasn't coming off a knee injury, I would probably rank Rashid Rice right
25:14next to Drake London and Brock Powers.
25:16>> Yes.
25:17>> Is that fair?
25:17>> Yeah. Yeah. Easily. Yeah. Easily. I mean, he's been he's been like a top five to top 10 receiver uh whenever he's
25:24been healthy.
25:25>> Yeah. And I mean, again, that might be underelling it a little bit. Like maybe he should be in the middle of all that
25:31stack of eight running backs that we have right there. Yeah. like you said, I mean, he's a top seven scoring wide
25:36receiver when he is on the field as part of the Kansas City Chiefs. And, you know, while they've drafted some Randers
25:43at wide receiver, including Jaylen Royals and insert your Cyrus Allens and so on and so forth, uh, they have really done nothing to replace him as a key
25:50focal point and exactly where they want to throw the football. So, uh, I would be drafting Rashi Rice right now if you
25:58want to, you know, be a part of the group that believes in Rushy Rice because again, if we're getting ahead of
26:05these trends, he will only go up the more he participates in training camp.
26:08>> Yeah, I promise in two weeks he will not be right next to Luke Neighbors in in ADP.
26:12>> They are probably going in two different trajectories if I'm predicting it. Okay, Brennan Aayuk is next. posted a video among other videos on social media where
26:22he steps on the scale and weighs 208 pounds. We could do another 30 minutes on the Brena situation and if he is
26:30theoretically a good pick. Uh Hayden, I think you could say is he theoretically still a wide receiver in the NFL right
26:35now.
26:35>> Uh I think that's a fair question. Um I also do think we're probably getting closer to the point where things are
26:41going to get better at this point. He has not helped himself at all. I think that what what could happen is he shows
26:48up to the 49ers facility and like that's what gets him um uh pretty much released right away. Um but yeah, he's priced now
26:56at 194th overall underdog. So he's like basically going undrafted. We know he's much better than that. He's 28 pounds.
27:04That seems like a good playing weight for him. He's got a lot to play for after giving up millions and millions
27:10and millions of dollars. You obviously can't trust him, but I mean, start naming some of the wide receivers he's he's right next to. And if you want to
27:16compare talent uh to to Brandon Nauk.
27:19So, like I'm I'm now at the point I'm buying Brandon Nauk. Wish me the best, but this is this is my time to buy.
27:25>> Yeah. I mean, look, in your home normal leagues, you're not even factoring in Brandau in your conversation. This is just the sickos uh that are thinking
27:34about Branduk in in round 17. Um I don't know. I mean, when he missed training camp, we've talked about other wide
27:42receivers that are more consistent who miss training camp, uh, and how much that impacts, you know, their production, especially early in the
27:50season. By all accounts, he is trying to force him his way to Washington, and it makes sense. They do not have a, you
27:56know, legit second outside wide receiver, unless you want to hypothesize Trayon Burks or Antonio Williams in that area. Uh, I mean, I just haven't seen
28:06anything like this over the last six to eight months basically ever. I mean, we saw the Antonio Brown stuff >> to the Bills and took him to the Las
28:16Vegas Raiders and then the shoe and the helmet stuff and all that >> and then, you know, we've seen the Terrell Owens stuff in his past, but
28:23yeah, I think this is a an interesting one with Branduk and I'm not sure if I'm even going to want to do it in round 17.
28:30Yeah, I mean like Ted Hurst goes around ahead of him. I mean that's a third round pick developmental type who's the
28:35wide receiver four. Like there there's there's just other >> picking Ted Hurst either.
28:38>> Okay, good. But Isaac Teslaw goes two rounds ahead of him. Isaac Teslaw catches about four passes a month.
28:44>> Now if you say Adai Mitchell then I >> I'll hear you on Adai Mitchell. Like we we can we can pick our favorites down
28:49here. I just think at some point Jawan Jennings does go five rounds ahead of him. Those type of names.
28:55>> And again playing the ADP game as soon as Brena signs with the Washington Commanders. Why why don't we guess this?
29:00What round do you think he lands in?
29:02>> If if he if he signed with the commanders today, he would go, let's say, Romeo Dobs in round 10, like Khalil
29:08Shakir.
29:08>> I mean, I was looking at these names like he'd go ahead of Omar Cooper, he'd go ahead of Travis Hunter. And so, yeah,
29:14this round 11, round 10 area of Romeo Dobs to Khalil Shakir to Jaden Higgins makes the most sense.
29:20>> And it might it could be higher than that. Like, it could be higher than that. It could I I think there's a bit
29:24of like a tier drop from like Michael Pitman and Matthew Golden down to these other guys.
29:29>> I think at worst he would go where Jawan Jennings was going >> in round three.
29:33>> So you have like a it's like a he's 50ish spots discounted and that's the upside that you get if you're going to
29:40take on the zero risk with him. And also you know the next pick after him is Malik Washington who most likely is
29:48going to be a zero this year.
29:49>> All right. Just to give you more information on players that you know we have hyped up here on the show. Lad
29:54Makanki right now is working off to the side during OTAAS. Uh Harbaugh got on the mic right before the show and said
30:00quote he's working through something.
30:02Again, no injury reports are necessary through the NFL right now. So we do not know what Lad Makanki is working through
30:09at this point. Do you want to guess?
30:11>> No idea. Just wanted to say he's not practicing. I I am not going to guess.
30:14There's no there's no point. which sucks because you know it's a new system one that we are really excited for with Mike
30:22McDaniel and that you know Quinton Johnson and Trey Harris are getting work at this point and Ly Manki is not and so
30:28if we were trying to do the one to one of who could be this year's you know fourth round third round wide receiver
30:34that goes nuclear and wins your fancy football league I know myself and others have nominated Lad Makanki and uh that's tough to do when you're not practicing
30:42>> also June I think I think lad will be will be fine >> I agree yeah >> how about Roma Jun, there have been some
30:47interesting words he has said this off season. Uh we know last year there were some onoff splits of when he injured his
30:53foot and when he was healthy >> on this injured foot among other words he is now saying it is quote his new
31:00normal.
31:01>> What does that mean to you?
31:03>> Uh don't love to hear it. I will just note I think that Gen Z is going to be very more open in talking about the
31:10realities of their stuff than than hiding it. I I would just be I'm guessing that a lot of football players like if you ask Julio Jones truthfully
31:17how does your foot feel um you would probably say not great and I just think that Roma Dun is going to play through
31:22it. Just because he was being open about does not make his foot injury worse than other people that have had this before.
31:28So I think a lot of football players have foot issues and most of the time they play through it. The I think the
31:33big news that when overlooked is he's practicing. He has his foot injury but he's practicing. So I I think in general
31:39I think it's >> the words that he used quote this is my new normal and it's not from a standpoint that I'm always in pain but
31:44the way my foot broke there's calluses in there that create a different type of foot structure with those bones different types of things that kind of
31:52shift things around. So my new normal is kind of what I'm going into.
31:58Sounds like he listened to his doctors on >> Yes. He's just reporting the fact >> structure shifting around.
32:03>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's just keeping he's just keeping it a buck.
32:06>> Yeah. As much as I love Luther Burton, there is I think a direct pathway for Ramadun, who I also really like and I
32:14think is incredibly talented to uh finish as the Bears wide receiver one this year. And >> you know, I don't know, they're going a
32:22handful of spots different. Like it's wide receiver 29 versus wide receiver 21, the 11th pick of the fifth round versus the sixth pick of the fourth
32:28round. Uh, so I I'm still drafting Roman Dunce with uh with good confidence because he's in this cluster of wide receivers of Christian Watson, Rome,
32:36Colonel Tate, Brian Thomas, and Jordan Tyson.
32:39>> Yep. I think it's a great pick right now.
32:40>> We'll close with Travis Hunter, as we have talked about relentlessly. Uh he is still sidelined from that knee injury uh
32:48that he dealt with during the by-week.
32:50What is on my radar the most, Hayden, is when you watch these training camp or excuse me, these OTAA clips, he is
32:56wearing a teal jersey. And the teal jersey means he's quote unquote practicing with the offense and not the white of the defense.
33:05>> He's going to play both sides of the ball this year. Like I feel very confident in that. So, uh I just wanted
33:09to note that he's not practicing yet because of his knee injury. And it is a it was one of the more rare knee
33:16injuries. So like among the players we've talked about with injuries like his could end up lingering maybe a little bit more than we'd want. So this
33:23is just like fully monitoring the situation. I would guess he finishes wide receiver four in Jaguars in in snaps uh and then he's their best
33:30corner. So um I'm just monitoring this one, but we talked about this in our year two film review that there's plenty
33:37of upside here. Like he flashed it.
33:38Didn't get to see it consistent enough and that was partially his fault, partially the offense's fault, but uh there's upside here. just I want him on
33:45the practice field eventually.
33:46>> And again, they probably don't make the playoffs if he's not on the team and doesn't play wide receiver in like the
33:5349ers and the Chiefs games where he had a heavy hand at winning those games with downfield big catches. With all that
33:59said, I still think it's unlikely he clears 45% of snaps on offense. But that's just my take here on uh June
34:0716th. But we also it's okay if like parts of the season he's at 30% and then other parts of the season at 65% and
34:14then we can start him in the games that he's playing 65% of snaps or some sometimes that could be there could be a
34:19couple games where he's at nearly 100% of the snaps. So um I don't think we should always take the averages across
34:24the season. I think there's going to be some ups and downs with with Travis Hunter here and uh obviously the earlier
34:29he gets into practices the better because there was he could not line up properly for his rookie season. So, like I would like to see that eventually.
34:38>> Here's a take. Maybe now when he actually can't practice and he can kind of get mental reps, he's doing those
34:44mental reps on offense to know about all the alignment and stuff and then as soon as when he gets back on the field to
34:50actually being able to run around and practice, then he's just going to go straight back to >> defense. Yeah, I think that's a good
34:55good take.
34:56>> Okay, well that does it. We'll have more good takes here later in the week. We have Ian Hardit on the program on
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