Win Your League with Scott Barrett's Tight End Rankings and Tiers (2026 Fantasy Football Sleepers)
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Tucker KraftBrock BowersBrock PurdyCeeDee LambColston LovelandDallas GoedertDalton KincaidDarnell WashingtonDavante AdamsDavid NjokuDavis AllenGeorge KittleHarold FanninIsaiah Likely
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Brock Bowers
PositiveProjection0:48
Scott Barrett ranks Brock Bowers as the TE1, citing his status as the best tight end prospect ever and a record-breaking rookie season. Bowers averaged 16.4 fantasy points per game when excluding weeks played through a PCL injury, a mark that would have ranked 10th among wide receivers. Barrett views recent knee tape as a minor precaution and prefers Bowers over Trey McBride at cost, noting Bowers' dynamic, WR1-like usage. Adding an alpha receiver like Chris Olave to the Raiders would likely help Bowers by preventing defenses from scheming him out of the offense.
Insight pageBrock Purdy
NegativeUsage22:57
Scott Barrett notes that George Kittle's fantasy production is significantly higher when Brock Purdy is the starting quarterback.
Insight pageCeeDee Lamb
PositiveUsage47:12
CeeDee Lamb's health is the primary factor in Jake Ferguson's fantasy production; Ferguson was only productive when Lamb was injured.
Insight pageColston Loveland
PositiveValue12:32
Scott Barrett ranks Colston Loveland in the D-tier, citing concerns that his late-season breakout was dependent on extreme negative game scripts. Barrett notes that Cole Kmet will be a greater 'thorn in the side' than the community expects, creating a committee situation. Furthermore, Loveland is being drafted near his absolute ceiling and ahead of players like Zay Flowers and Tee Higgins, creating poor opportunity cost. Barrett notes that Harold Fannon Jr. offers similar upside at a four-round discount.
Insight pageDallas Goedert
PositiveValue28:53
Scott Barrett identifies Dallas Goedert as a high-value target, noting he finished as the TE6 in fantasy points per game last year but is currently drafted at TE15. Goedert is described as low-key the number one receiver in the Eagles' offense when A.J. Brown is off the field, with data showing his yards per route run and fantasy points per game are superior to DeVonta Smith's in those splits since 2021. Barrett expects Goedert to benefit from Jalen Hurts throwing more over the middle of the field and the implementation of 12 personnel schemes by the new staff.
Insight pageDalton Kincaid
PositiveProjection33:30
Scott Barrett is pessimistic about Dalton Kincaid's breakout potential, ranking him behind Darnell Washington and preferring him as a TE2. Barrett cites the team's preference for Dawson Knox and Jackson Haw, and argues Kincaid is a liability as a blocker who tips the team's play-calling hand. While Kincaid was a hyper-efficient pass catcher last year, Buffalo's passing efficiency has been worse with him on the field over the last two years. Barrett notes that if Kincaid's route share remains at his 51% career average, he lacks top-three upside; he would need to reach a 62-63% route share to be considered a viable TE1.
Insight pageDarnell Washington
PositiveProjection37:31
Scott Barrett identifies Darnell Washington as a player with top-three potential at the tight end position, ranking him ahead of Dalton Kincaid.
Insight pageDavante Adams
NegativeInjury46:04
Davante Adams is described as a 34-year-old player with bad hamstrings, serving as a reason why Terrence Ferguson could see increased usage if Adams misses time.
Insight pageDavid Njoku
NegativeUsage14:46
David Njoku is referenced as a historical benchmark for offensive coordinator Drew Petzing's tendency to prioritize the tight end position, dating back to their time together in Cleveland.
Insight pageDavis Allen
NegativeDepth Chart48:14
Davis Allen is mentioned as a competitor in the Rams' tight end rotation, contributing to the uncertainty regarding target distribution for the position.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveValue21:57
Scott Barrett ranks George Kittle in his S-tier, arguing he is significantly undervalued at his current ADP of TE9. Kittle's fantasy production is notably higher with Brock Purdy at quarterback, and his 15.3 fantasy points per game over the last two years match Justin Jefferson's, despite a seven-round difference in draft cost. Additionally, Barrett notes Kittle ranks behind only Mark Andrews in fantasy points per route run over the last three years.
Insight pageHarold Fannin
PositiveBreakout16:26
Scott Barrett identifies Harold Fannon Jr. as a high-upside breakout candidate, noting he was a historically great prospect pre-draft and is one of the league's hardest tight ends to tackle. Despite playing in a poor offense, his rookie stats were comparable to Colston Loveland and Tyler Warren; Barrett highlights that the four-round ADP gap between Fannon and Loveland is unjustified given their similar performance metrics over the final 16 quarters of the season.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
PositiveSleeper20:48
Scott Barrett highlights Isaiah Likely as a high-upside, potential PPR cheat code and breakout candidate. Beat writers report he is the focal point of the offense and Jackson Dart's favorite target. Likely averaged 16.2 fantasy points per game over his last nine full games with a healthy Mark Andrews. Barrett compares his trajectory to Martellus Bennett, who broke out after being stuck behind veteran starters like Greg Olsen, Mark Andrews, and Charlie Kolar.
Insight pageJacoby Brissett
PositiveUsage10:26
Scott Barrett identifies Jacoby Brissett as a 'tight end whisperer' who consistently targets the position at the highest rate in the league, serving as a DFS cheat code that has historically boosted the fantasy value of his tight ends.
Insight pageJake Ferguson
NegativeBust46:57
Scott Barrett advises avoiding Jake Ferguson in standard drafts, noting he struggled significantly when CeeDee Lamb was healthy, ranking as the TE26 in points per game from week eight on. Ferguson's fantasy production is heavily dependent on Lamb's health, as he was only productive when Lamb was injured.
Insight pageJake Tonges
PositiveSleeper23:45
Scott Barrett recommends Jake Tonges as a late-round sleeper and viable week-one fill-in for George Kittle. Tonges demonstrated high-end production in his last four games without Kittle, averaging 7.8 targets and 15.7 fantasy points per game.
Insight pageJustin Jefferson
NegativeProjection23:06
Scott Barrett compares George Kittle's 15.3 fantasy points per game over the last two years to Justin Jefferson's, emphasizing the value gap between the two players in drafts.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveValue20:50
Scott Barrett identifies Jawan Johnson as a cheap, high-upside tight end option, noting the favorable context created by the Jordan Tyson injury and Malik Neighbors' ongoing recovery.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
NegativeBust24:34
Scott Barrett expresses skepticism regarding Kyle Pitts, ranking him at TE9 compared to his ESPN ADP of TE5. Barrett questions if Pitts' vertical skill set fits Kevin Stefanski's scheme, which historically favors low-aDOT, run-after-catch tight ends like David Njoku and Harrison Bryant. Pitts has struggled with consistency, recording only one 100-yard game since 2022 and showing significant production splits based on Drake London's presence.
Insight pageMark Andrews
PositiveSleeper38:18
Scott Barrett highlights Mark Andrews as a favorite sleeper, noting that over the last three years, he ranks behind only George Kittle in fantasy points per route run. Andrews is positioned for a major workload increase due to the departures of Isaiah Likely and Charlie Kolar, and a lack of proven pass-catching depth behind Zay Flowers. Despite a down 2025 season hampered by a glute injury and Lamar Jackson's health, Barrett is moving him up to the B-tier as a top touchdown threat.
Insight pageMarvin Harrison Jr.
NegativeUsage10:53
Scott Barrett notes that Trey McBride's fantasy numbers were partially inflated by the injury absence of Marvin Harrison Jr. during the previous season.
Insight pageParker Washington
NegativeInjury6:45
Scott Barrett expresses concern regarding the news that Parker Washington is currently dealing with an undisclosed injury.
Insight pagePuka Nacua
NegativeInjury45:53
Puka Nacua is cited as an injury and suspension risk, which creates a path for Terrence Ferguson to see increased targets in the Rams' offense.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
PositiveProjection14:24
Scott Barrett is bullish on Sam LaPorta, citing his elite efficiency when his route share is 75% or higher, where he averages 15.9 fantasy points per game. With Drew Petzing as offensive coordinator—who historically prioritizes the tight end position—LaPorta is expected to see more high-route-share games and emerge as an every-week elite producer.
Insight pageTee Higgins
NegativeValue15:46
Scott Barrett advises against drafting certain tight ends at their current ADP because they are being selected ahead of high-value wide receivers like Tee Higgins and Zay Flowers, creating an unfavorable opportunity cost.
Insight pageTerrance Ferguson
NegativeSleeper45:34
Scott Barrett loves Terrence Ferguson as a high-upside sleeper and 'exodia' in FFPC leagues. He is projected to be the Rams' number three receiver, offering significant contingent value if Puka Nacua (injury/suspension risk) or Davante Adams (34-year-old with bad hamstrings) miss time, though he is not a priority stash in standard 12-team leagues.
Insight pageTravis Kelce
NegativeValue42:45
Scott Barrett ranks Travis Kelce as the TE14, though he acknowledges the industry consensus views him as a top-seven option. While Kelce may look physically 'washed' on tape, he remains a top-seven fantasy asset because he consistently finds soft spots in coverage and remains the primary defensive focus, aided by his unique connection with Patrick Mahomes. However, Barrett notes a significant negative split in Kelce's production when Rashee Rice is on the field.
Insight pageTrey McBride
NegativeProjection7:09
Scott Barrett ranks Trey McBride as the TE2, noting his massive upside after recording the third-most fantasy points by a tight end in history. However, Barrett warns that his 2025 production was a 'perfect storm' of non-repeatable factors, including record-breaking route volume and extreme garbage-time usage. Regression is expected, particularly if a quarterback change to Carson Beck occurs or if the offense becomes less pass-heavy. McBride remains a gold standard for production, as only he averages more fantasy points per game than Sam LaPorta when maintaining a 75% or higher route share.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
PositiveValue19:47
Scott Barrett ranks Tucker Kraft in his S-tier, citing a massive injury discount that feels more than baked into his current market price. Before his injury, Kraft led all tight ends in yards and fantasy points per game; when excluding games where he did not play all four quarters, he ranked behind only Trey McBride in production. Barrett suggests pairing him with early-season schedule-friendly tight ends to mitigate potential slow starts.
Insight pagePositiveValue19:47
Scott Barrett ranks Tucker Craft in his S-tier, citing a massive injury discount despite Craft leading all tight ends in yards and fantasy points per game before his injury last season. Barrett suggests pairing him with early-season schedule-friendly tight ends to mitigate potential slow starts.
Insight pageTyler Lockett
NegativeInjury1:53
Scott Barrett cites Tyler Lockett as a historical example of a player who consistently underperformed while playing through significant injuries that should have resulted in an IR designation, using this as a cautionary parallel for players currently managing injuries.
Insight pageTyler Warren
PositiveValue15:41
Tyler Warren is a high-value target with significant upside, having led all tight ends in receiving yards through the first 10 weeks of his rookie season while averaging 2.13 yards per route run—exceeding Brock Bowers' rookie average. Despite late-season quarterback struggles, he recorded the fifth-most fantasy points by a rookie tight end all-time. While Scott Barrett loves him as a player, he cautions that he is a 'C-tier' draft target due to the opportunity cost of drafting tight ends early.
Insight pageXavier Worthy
NegativeProjection43:46
Scott Barrett explicitly states he does not like Xavier Worthy as a fantasy asset within the current Kansas City offensive projection model.
Insight pageZay Flowers
NegativeValue15:46
Scott Barrett argues that current tight end ADP is inflated, as they are being drafted ahead of reliable wide receivers like Zay Flowers and Tee Higgins, which he views as a poor use of draft capital.
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Episode Transcript
0:00Scott Barrett's tight end rankings and tears. This is Fantasy Football Daily with Brett and Scott.
0:15>> All right. So, we're what we're doing today, we're un unveiling your top 15 tight ends in the league in order, but
0:21we're also going to tier make them at ADP. So, as we go through, there will be some discussion. You're already shaking
0:27your head. What What's the >> Yeah. So, I I wasn't expecting this.
0:30This wasn't on my show sheet. So, I'm going to do this on the fly. That's going to make it more entertaining. But,
0:36yeah, we'll go we'll go through my top 15 tight ends and I'll try and tell you what I think of of them at cost.
0:44>> Yeah, I think I think that's a great way to do it and it gives gives people a little added substance and context. So,
0:48all right, let's just kick it off. No surprise here at number one, Scott. It is the Las Vegas Raiders stud move piece
0:54tight end Brock Bowers. Tell us about Brock.
0:57Well, I mean, I I I think this one's kind of easy. Uh, if you exclude the weeks he wore a brace, we were calling
1:04him Brace Bowers. He suffered a PCL injury that he really like every injury expert was like, he should take a month
1:10off. Uh, and he didn't. And that's kind of, you know, Pete Carol's notorious for that. Tyler Lockett always played horribly through injuries he should have
1:18been on IR with. And so, yeah, ex excluding the Brace Bowers weeks, he averaged 16.4 fantasy points per game.
1:26that would have ranked 10th among wide receivers. He did this on what was easily the worst offense in football.
1:3232nd in yards per game, 32nd in points per game, 32nd in EPA per play. And now you got my guy Clint Kubak. I think
1:39really a special play caller. Um and just just a phenomenal talent. You know, I said this was the the best tight end
1:47prospect ever. Um and then he had the best rookie season ever. And then he was great last year when healthy on a awful
1:55dog [ __ ] team. So, uh, yeah, I think it makes sense for him to be the tight end one. The the bigger question is what do
2:01we do with him at cost?
2:05>> Which go ahead and >> so this this might be a little controversial. If if you're in an 18 league, this he's an S tier. if he's a
2:13tight end premium league, you know, A tier. But if you're in a 12 team league PPR, and I'm going to assume we're
2:20talking 12 team PPR, he's a B or a C, probably a B, let's say. Um, because
2:30it's just the opportunity cost of drafting a tight end instead of a running back or a wide receiver. That's where, you know, league winners reside.
2:39They're typically running backs and wide receivers. and late round tight ends.
2:43I'm seeing a lot of really good value.
2:45So, the highest I could put Bower as a player I love uh is B. That's really interesting. What do you think of like
2:54how the situation around Brock impacts his production? Because I've I've made the argument to you that I think an alpha receiver there would actually help
3:01him, not hurt him. I do think there against good defenses, they will be able to game plan around him. And I worry
3:07that like while the season total production is going to look great, I do worry he might have some dud weeks in
3:13there just because that he's relatively easy to scheme out of the offense when there's no one else you have to pay
3:19attention to. What do you think?
3:19>> Yeah. Yeah, that's that's absolutely right. You know, we've talked about that a lot. I think your take was like if the
3:25Raiders traded for Chris Olive Yeah.
3:27>> Uh you would take him like wide receiver three. And I I love that that take.
3:31Yeah. And I think that is probably what's going to happen. But still, you know, we had Ryan Pagnetti on the podcast. He was uh doing analytics work
3:39with the Raiders and he was like, "Yeah, if he stayed healthy, we thought he was going to, you know, break every tight
3:45end record in the book, just make him the focal point of the offense." And this is the kind of player, the caliber
3:50of talent where, yeah, you could really see that being the case.
3:53>> Are you worried at all he's still taping his knee? Like, did you see the photos from yesterday's practice?
3:58>> Yeah, I don't know. I so this happened just I I saw it just late last night and so I got to talk to Jeff Mueller about
4:04that and some of the other you know Parker Washington now undisclosed injury don't like that and so uh yeah I I'll
4:10need to talk to Jeff about it. It is the time of year, just so the listeners can rest a little bit. Everyone's hurt. Camp
4:17is long. It's hard. It's rigorous. Like guys are starting to feel it a little bit. And I I don't know. Maybe he's just
4:23being safe with the knee. And it it didn't look like a brace, right? It was just uh the the compression tape or
4:29whatever. So, I'm not too worried about it. All right. Number two, you have the other super dominant tight end in the
4:33league, Trey McBride, who's just been on an absolute, you know, just hot just hot run of of seasons in Arizona with a
4:42horrible team and a horrible defense. H how are you feeling about Trey? And then kind of juxtapose him to Brock a little
4:47bit because I I kind of I like Trey a little bit better myself, but you are the expert, so I defer to you. But what
4:52do you think here?
4:53>> Yeah, that's a question I was asking myself. I'm like, is if Brock Bowers is a B, is Trey McBride a B+?
5:01No, I kind of think they're both B's. If uh tear them both B's. Um, so like, you know, the upside argument for Trey
5:09McBride is easy. He just scored the third most fantasy points by any tight end in NFL history. He was basically the
5:15wide receiver six or the RB6 by fantasy points per game. the and like valuebased drafting like the difference between Trey McBride and the next closest tight
5:25end was 105 fantasy points. That was the same difference as between the tight end 2 and the tight end 28 or the QB1 and
5:34the QB13.
5:36Uh so absolutely insane gap there. Um, and so like if you if you think he's going to perfectly repeat what he did
5:46last season, you should be drafting him, I don't know, round one. Even though like like I said, the opportunity cost of drafting a tight end.
5:53>> Um, the problem is like it seemed like a perfect storm of, you know, unre repeatability. Uh, he was an all-time
6:02garbage time superstar. Uh, this was the the most pass heavy offense in fantasy points data history by a landslide. He ran 667
6:13routes. That was 156 more than the next closest tight end. Rich Reebar put it perfectly. It's like he basically played 22 games last year and no other tight
6:23end played more than 17. Uh, it's also Jacobe Brassette is the tight end whisperer. You know, this is like one of
6:30the biggest DFS cheat codes that Johnny Proctor and I have been on forever. like every single year of his career, including college, Jacobe Brassette
6:38targets tight ends at the highest rate in the league. And so, like, that's great, but it's also like, hey, if there's a real chance Carson Beck is
6:45starting in the second half of the season, that really kind of kneecaps Trey McBride. Uh, also, his numbers were a little bit inflated by that Marvin
6:54Harrison Jr. in injury. There's like three other points I can make, but basically it just you have to be expecting a regression to the mean. And
7:04with that, I still prefer Brock Bowers, although at cost it's about even. And so again, it's a team league. Yeah. S tier,
7:14uh 12 team, B tier.
7:16>> To me, it's really interesting to to talk about them together because McBride's skill set and Bower skill set are two totally different things.
7:23McBride is like all route running and separation ability. Bowowers is more of a dynamic playmaker with the ball in his hands. Some contested catch stuff in
7:31there as well, but super different players. Bowers gets the wide receiver one treatment too, just like McBride where they kind of move them all over
7:38the formation. He's going to run a lot of routes out wide a lot in the slot.
7:41And so fascinating because the skill sets are very different yet they're used very similarly. So, um, anyways, all right, let's move on to your number
7:49three tight end, Scott. Why don't you tell us who it is?
7:52>> Yeah, so this is Coloulston Loveland.
7:54Um, and so, you know, we all saw what happened at the tail end of last season.
7:58Uh, he had double-digit targets in each of his last four games, including the playoffs. Averaged 95 yards per game, 19.9 fantasy points per game, a 29%
8:09target share. Those are top five wide receiver numbers. It was really incred.
8:14He was the focal point of the offense.
8:15No other player was over a 15% target share. And again, he was at 29%. That's like Jamar Chase Puka Nua levels. Um,
8:25and yeah, and so that's the easy upside argument is, hey, you know, it took a while for him to get a full-time role.
8:33And when he did, he was awesome. He had uh at least 21 fantasy points in four of the six games. He cleared a 75% snap
8:41share. Bowowers has done that in only five of 25 career games with a 75% snap share. Um, and so that's the upside
8:51argument. Unfortunately, the downside argument is actually legitimately persuas persuasive to me. And it's just I think Cole KD is going to be a greater
9:00thorn in his side uh than the fantasy community wants to admit because it's a real issue to me that it took so long
9:08for him to get a full-time workload. Uh, he hit a 60% route share only four times in the 15 games Cole KT was healthy. And
9:18all four of those games came with fluky, extreme negative game script. Um, you know, all four of those games they the
9:27Bears trailed on over 75% of their plays. Uh, I think that was the case in only two other games the entire
9:35year. And so it's like, yeah, tight ends smash in extreme negative game script, especially when it's this like sort of tight end by committee situation. And so
9:46again, it it really comes down to um opportunity cost and he's he's getting drafted ahead of names like Z Flowers and T. Higgins. And so when you factor
9:57that in, I'm going to have to tar him out and give him a C a D tier.
10:03>> Oo wow.
10:04>> And it's really Hey, I I love So I love Lovelin for Dynasty. Um, but it's just like the fact that I have to ask this
10:12question and again my bias against drafting tight ends early and and part of this is the value we get late. Um,
10:21I'm not really into Coulson.
10:23>> Interesting. I think with Lovelin it's I I'm so excited for him because like I gloat all the time about these guys like
10:30Drake London and T McMill and Mike these big physical players but they're so technical with the route running and that's what you see with Loveland. He is
10:39he's a really hard guy to to take out of a game script because he can just win routes. Like you saw when he came out, I
10:45think week eight was the first time he ran over 30 routes in a game. From that point on, he was third in separation
10:50score. He was second in yards per route run. And it really is just it's the athleticism, size, and route running combo. It's just it's impossible to stop
11:00Scott. So like >> I I'm pretty bullish. I'm lovely. It's hard for me to to hear your grade because I'm like, man, I I love getting
11:06shares of him because I just think he's that dynamic. We've been saying that >> one of those things where he's he's
11:11being drafted very close to his absolute ceiling with like almost none of the downside priced in for a guy who >> again did nothing for 15 weeks with Cole
11:22KT healthy >> and and you didn't even mention he he plays with a bad quarterback.
11:27>> I I'm serious. Like we we said that for Luther Burton and Rome like we got to consider it for Coloulston as well.
11:32>> Yeah. I'm just telling you, we have an army of Chicago citizens, you know, swarming the downvote button on our YouTube videos because of how critical
11:42of Caleb Williams you are in every episode.
11:44>> I I read the YouTube update. Down votes boost you in the algorithm still. So, I'm fine with that.
11:48>> Okay.
11:49>> I don't know if that's actually true, Trey. Kill me if it is. Isn't >> All right. Are you good on Love then?
11:55>> Yeah.
11:56>> All right. Let's move on. Who's your number four?
11:58>> So, that's Tyler Warren. Uh, and I think it's really close. um you know, my tight end three ranking here. Uh you just look
12:06at what he did up until Daniel Jones fractured his fibula. Uh and then he played like two games with a custom 3D
12:13printed leg brace that like never existed before and he was awful. And then he played the rest of the year with
12:20a literal grandfather as the starting quarterback. Um, and so through the first 10 weeks, Lauren led all tight ends and receiving yards ahead of Trey
12:30McBride. He averaged 2.13 yards per route run. That was more than Brock Bowers averaged in his rookie season.
12:36And then if you factor in the games he played with a literal grandfather, he still scored the fifth most fantasy points by a rookie tight end all time.
12:46And this came one year after he set the record for most yards from scrimmage from any power conference tight end all
12:54time. And yeah, this was a really special prospect coming out who had a really great rookie season, like an exceptional rookie season if you factor
13:05in uh the quarterback play. And now Michael Pitman and his 20% target share are no longer there. And so, yeah, I
13:14think Tyler Warren um is really interesting. Uh I love the player, especially in Dynasty. Uh but he's probably a Ctier for me. Just not really
13:26a player, you know, again, opportunity cost, these early drafted tight ends. I like the value late. Not someone I'm I'm all that eager to draft. I think what
13:36we're seeing pretty quickly here is that waiting on tight end is the prudent option. You know, with when you're going strictly based on ADP here. It seems
13:44like you all these top tight ends you're you're excited about. You're also saying don't draft them at their ADP. So, all
13:50right. Number five is a guy I'm a little biased on and that's Sam Laaporta, Detroit Lions. I I love Leaporta's game.
13:59I think when you look at Drew Petting's history, and I'm not sure how much you're baking that in. I'm curious to
14:04pick your thoughts. Um, Petting since he's been uh uh involved in the offensive side of the ball in the NFL, I
14:11think he's got 10 straight seasons of a tight end that finishes tight end seven or better.
14:17And that that's pretty remarkable. I know we have Leapora higher than that here at number five. I'm just I think it's really cool to see Ping's stamp on
14:24the Detroit, you know, offense and what that's going to mean for Leaporta who's coming back healthy. Um, all all accounts says he looks great in practice
14:31too through camp so far. So, where you at on Sam Laora?
14:35>> Um, I think he's a B or an A tier. Do you uh do you want to push me into the A
14:40tier, Brett?
14:41>> I think you should just cuz the what you've seen since Ping's been in the league is like he prioritizes that
14:46position more than any other position going back to his Minnesota days, his Cleveland days with David and Jooku, yada yada.
14:52>> Right. And so that's really the argument here I think honestly and the great stat I have is Leaporta averages 15.9 fantasy
15:01points per game when he has a route shear of 75% or more. Uh that those are elite numbers. Uh and o over this span only Trey McBride
15:12averages more fantasy points per game with a 75% route share or higher. And here's the great part. Leaporta has hit that mark in only 43% of his career
15:20games. But with Drew Pig as his OC, McBride hit that mark in each of his last 29 games.
15:27>> Holy, >> that's at least nine more than any other tight end. And so it's like, hey, maybe that's now the every week expectation
15:34for Sam Leaport. So yeah, you're right.
15:35You know, A tier, good call. He's the tight end six in ADP uh in all formats.
15:41He's my tight end five, but it's very close with Loveland and Warren, so really good value.
15:47>> What round is his ADP right now? I missed that. Sorry.
15:50Uh, I'll have to pull that up.
15:52>> Okay. Yeah, I've I've gotten Leaporta. I don't do a ton of reraft, but the few I've gotten Leaporta in almost every one
15:58of them. He feels like an easy >> Well, he's round seven on Sleeper.
16:02>> He's round six everywhere else.
16:05>> Nice. I love it. Um, also the the health thing is a big a big deal. I think some, you know, you said 43%.
16:13>> He hasn't hit that 75% share, but he's been banged up quite a bit. So, if he's healthy, he's also on contract watch,
16:19guys. like could be any day now he gets a new contract. I think that would give people some some confidence as well.
16:25Number six, the hardest guy in the league to tackle, Harold Fannon Jr., tight end Cleveland Browns. Let's go.
16:32Uh yeah, so you really blindsided me when you gave that take. I you said the hardest guy in the league to tackle. I
16:40would have guessed it was Tucker Craft if they're close. They're close.
16:44>> George KD, but yeah. So Harold Fannon Jr. So, I just said that Tyler Warren had arguably the greatest college football season of all time, which is
16:55like literally true, but you could say the exact same thing for Harold Fannon Jr. Tyler Warren had the most yards from
17:01scrimmage by any power conference tight end ever. Harold Fannon Jr. had the most receiving yards by any FBS tight end ever and also smashed in a million of
17:11other stats. Uh, and then last year he averaged 11.7 fantasy points per game.
17:16That was the fourth most by a rookie tight end since the since since the year I was born. Uh, and this was the worst
17:22offense in football. Uh, or at least up there with the Raiders. 32nd in points per drive, 32nd in yards per play, 32nd
17:29in EPA per dropback. He did this splitting time with David and Jooku, who was one of the top 10 highest paid tight
17:35ends in the league last year, and he's now no longer with the team. And so, yeah, you know, I get that this is still
17:44probably a really bad offense, much worse offense than the Bears, but it's interesting that there's a four round gap in ADP between Loveland and Fannon
17:53when you see it on the screen, or maybe you'll see it on the screen in a minute here, but uh over their last four games
18:01or really last 16 full quarters, there was very little difference between Harold Fannon and Coloulston Lovelin.
18:07This was we we all went, you know, people are losing their minds for Coulson Loveland for his his last four games last year. How Fannon, he he, you
18:18know, bested Lovelin and route share, first read target share, yards per target over expectation and fantasy points per game, there was less than a
18:2618.2 to 20. And so it's yeah, Lovelin better offense, had the better hot streak, but again, there's a four round
18:34difference in ADP. So, um I'd say Harold Fannon might be S tier on FFPC where he goes shockingly late. Um but probably
18:45like B+ I would put and put him B tier B+. Uh everywhere else he's he's tight end seven by ADP on Sleeper, Yahoo, and
18:54ESPN.
18:56>> Do you think Lovelin and and Warren are simply just getting the draft capital bias? Everyone should be just as bit
19:02excited for Harold Fannon yet he is lagging significantly behind them in ADP.
19:07>> I mean I think that could definitely be the case. Don't don't forget pre-draft I was extremely high on Harold Fannon Jr.
19:15I had him above Coloulston Lovelin even and I but I had all three tight ends as historically great prospects and I think
19:23that was exactly right and they showed they were historically great rookies as well. And so there's a ton of upside here. If one of these guys breaks into
19:32the, you know, Bowowers McBride tier, it really wouldn't surprise me at all.
19:39>> Awesome. Let's move on. Green Bay Packers, Tucker Craft, maybe the other undisputed pound-for-pound hardest tackle guy in the league with Harold
19:48Fannon Jr. I love Tucker. He's a violent player. He is coming off the injury though, Scott. Apparently that doesn't scare you too much.
19:55>> Yeah. Well, before the injury, he was leading all tight ends in yards per game, was leading all tight ends in
20:01fantasy points per game. Uh, if you only count games, tight ends played all four full quarters. Tucker Craft ranked behind only Trey McBride. Uh, and this
20:13is like a really special player and talent to me. He's led all players in yards after the catch per reception minus screens. You said Harold Fannon,
20:23toughest guy in the league to tackle.
20:25Just looking at the data here, I think it's maybe Tucker Craft. And so last year before that injury, I was like, I'm
20:32an idiot. I should have made him the Exodia tight end. You know, I was worried about the target share, but clearly, you know, he's just a special
20:41talent. And so, like I said, tight end two or tight end one before that injury, we're getting a massive injury discount
20:49here. Uh Tucker Craft is the tight end six by ADP on sleeper. the Titan eight by ADP on ESPN, which is really crazy. And so I feel
21:00like the fantasy gods have given me a mulligan. They're saying, "Hey, you I know you were beating yourself up. You got bailed out by injury and now there's
21:08a massive injury discount on Tucker Craft." And so I'm going to put him in the S tier. And part of my justification
21:14for that is how much I like some of these cheap high-end tight end twos you could find in drafts. And so, yeah, there was a
21:23recent report that, hey, the Packers might take it easy the on Tucker Craft in the first half of the season and then
21:30they unleash it. Well, guess what? The second half of the season matters exponentially more than the first. Why?
21:35Because that's when your fantasy playoffs are. You really want to build the best juggernaut uh fantasy team that you can. And so having a Tucker Craft
21:44and pairing him with for instance Dallas Goddard who has an exceptional early season strength of schedule or an Isaiah likely or Jawan Johnson with the Jordan
21:55Tyson injury, Malik Neighbors working himself back. I think uh being able to do that so cheaply helps put Tucker Craft into into the S
22:04tier.
22:05>> Interesting. Because I'm always struggling to balance the needle between I I want to prepare for the playoffs, but I also need to make the playoffs.
22:11But if you're saying it's easy just to come back with a Dallas GDart late in the draft, I guess I'll take your word
22:17for it. Uh, number eight, another Yak Demon, George KD. Another guy also coming off an injury. So this is this is
22:24pretty crazy. We have three of the last four tight ends coming off season ending injuries and they're all, you know, proficient after the catch type of guy.
22:31So tell me about George KD.
22:34>> I love George KD. This is, you've heard me say it on the show before, this might be my favorite player in the entire
22:40league. Uh, but he's also one of the most underrated. Um, so two years ago he led the position in fantasy points per
22:47game ahead of Brock Bowers, ahead of Trey McBride. He finished second best last year, tied with Brock Bowers. Uh, if you count only games Brock Perie
22:57played, it was two fantasy points per game more than Brock Bowers. Um, and so over the last two years combined, he
23:06averages 15.3 fantasy points per game. That's the exact same as Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson goes a 100 picks earlier, seven rounds earlier than George KD on
23:18Yahoo. Uh, and so to get this player at tight end nine, and it's again the same thing that I said with Tucker Craft when
23:24you could pair him with a cheap high upside tight tight end too with a great early season strength and schedule. I think
23:32this is an S tier tight end.
23:35>> S tier. Okay.
23:36>> S tier tight end. I there there's a chance he misses week one, but again I Isaiah likely Dallas Goddard are cheap.
23:45Jake Tongis even uh Tongis averaged 7.8 targets per game, 15.7 fantasy points per game over his last four games without KD. So and again second half of
23:56the season upside is what really matters. So this is an S tier tight end to me.
24:01>> Can you get Tongas with your last pick of the draft?
24:03>> Oh yeah, all day. So take Tongas, start him in week one, caught bait, move on, boom.
24:09>> And the only reason he would miss, I think, is because that game is in Australia. If that game was in San
24:13Francisco, you'd be playing, >> right? Right. Substation were you at all.
24:18>> I mean, yeah. I mean, that's that's why we're getting an injury discount here on a guy who's frequently injured and and
24:24craft, too. And part of that's their playing style, honestly. But it's also like it feels more than baked in. Like it feels like we're this is a really
24:31attractive injury discount here.
24:34All right, number nine. Uh, Kyle Pittz, tight end Atlanta Falcons. My take on on Pitts real quick before I toss you. I
24:42just don't know that I love the the skill set for what Stfansky has routinely asked his tight ends to do.
24:48>> Wow. I feel the complete opposite. I think Stfansky is fantastic for Kyle Pitts.
24:54>> Do you really?
24:56>> If if that's wrong, Kyle Pittz has literally nothing going for him. You see it on the screen right here. He has one
25:02100yard game since 2022. That's seven fewer than Trey McBride. That's less than Pat Frier, Muth, John Smith. Uh, and then you look at what he did with
25:12and without Drake London. It's absolutely awful. He averaged 10 fantasy points per game without Drake London. I think he's like the tight end 28 in
25:22games with Drake London over the last two years. Yeah. 20.1 fantasy points per game without London. 10 fantasy points per game with over the last two years.
25:30it looks even worse. Uh, and so I I I the one glimmer of hope I had was was Kevin Stfansky's track record with the
25:39tight end position. The the >> It's not that simple though. That That's kind of what I'm saying. What Who are the producers in Stfansky's scheme at
25:46tight end?
25:48>> David, Harold Fannon.
25:50>> Harold Fannon. What are What are those guys?
25:53>> Low A dot run after catch monsters. Kyle Piss is a vertical plane exceiver that plays tight end.
26:01>> Like he he he needs to be running a vertical router. He's closer to like the vertical element of Gron's game or Jimmy
26:09Graham than he is David and Jooku or Harold Finnon Jr. That that role has never been something Kyle Stfansky's preferred in his tight ends. I know they
26:19just paid him and they're they're obviously looking at like, "Oh, we want him long term, but like >> I just don't I just don't think it's a
26:25good player coach fit at all."
26:28>> Then he has absolutely no nothing going for him, Brad. So, you could tell by my ranking. I have him tight tight end
26:34nine. He goes tight end five on ESPN. I don't know what what Mike Clay is thinking this year, but uh yeah. So,
26:40let's let's throw this guy in the F tier, the Kyle Pitts tier.
26:44>> Boom.
26:44>> I mean, like, what are we doing? Like it's crazy seeing on Twitter people talking themselves into Kyle Pittz for the fifth season in a row. It's it's the
26:53Arrested Development meme. You know, this doesn't work for anyone else.
26:57>> I I just saw a meme before right before we started recording. It was like I think it was Jennifer Lawrence saying,
27:02"I'm really into bold guys." And then the second picture is him saying, "I'm drafting Kyle Pittz yet again this year." And then the next picture is
27:08Jennifer Lawrence making out with him.
27:10>> Like >> it should be I said bold, not stupid.
27:14Yeah.
27:15But yeah, I I'm concerned here, man. I'm definitely concerned with the fit here.
27:19So, like I think two things can be true.
27:20Kyle Pitch is a really good football player. Might not be great for fantasy.
27:24>> Boom.
27:24>> Yeah.
27:25>> All right. Round round out the top 10 here.
27:29>> Uh, so my next two are basically tied and I've kind of flipped back and forth on them, but um it's Isaiah likely and
27:35it's Dallas GD. So, you you heard me just allude to this when talking about Tucker Craft and George KD, but it's,
27:42you know, I think they pair exceptionally well together. Isaiah likely has this great um you know, every single beat writer is
27:52like at an absolute worst. He's the number two receiver. He's the focal point. He's Jackson Dart's favorite target. Uh, and if Malik Neighbors is
28:01less than 100% for the first month of the season, you just expect even more work for Isaiah likely. Uh, who I think
28:08we're sleeping on him his talent over his last nine full games with a healthy Mark Andrews. Uh, you see it on the
28:15screen there. He averages 16.2 fantasy points per game. George KD has never averaged 16.2 fantasy points per game. I will say his preseason usage was a
28:26little concerning. I I need to see I I need to see more there before I actually care, but it is possible. I I flip him
28:33with Dallas where like I said, it's really close. Um but again, every beat writer is is losing their minds over Isaiah likely as a potential PPR cheat
28:43code. Um you know, we didn't really He's kind of like the new Martellus Bennett, uh in my opinion. You know, stuck behind
28:50Greg Olsen. He was stuck behind Mark Andrews and Charlie Kolar. And now he gets the chance to spread his wings and
28:57fly. Dallas Goddard, we're gonna get put these guys in the same tier. Dallas Goddard. Um, you know, everyone want is tripping over
29:07themselves to draft Devont Smith now that AJ Brown is gone. But you look at the splits with without Dallas Goddard's actually kind of low-key the number one
29:18receiver. His yards per route run without AJ Brown is better than Devont Smith without AJ Brown. And if you scroll down there, you you can see it by
29:26fantasy points per game. He is also the more productive wide receiver over the last since 2023, since 2021. And so I
29:34think we're really sleeping in a guy who, by the way, finished as last year's tight end six uh by fantasy points per
29:40game. Now ranks tight end 15 by ADP.
29:43Also, this has been Jaylen Herd's favorite target over the middle of the field. So, lots of talk about him being uh Jaylen Herz throwing over the middle
29:51of the field more. that's going to benefit uh Dallas GDDARD and yeah, so screw it. I'm going to put Dallas GDDARD
29:58one spot a above Isaiah likely.
30:01>> Thank God. I was just about to go on a rant. Jeez.
30:03>> Okay. All right. There we go. And I'm going to put them both S tier or >> Goddard's for sure S tier. Come on.
30:12>> Goddard S tier. And then I'll let you make the call. A tier or S tier.
30:14Unlikely.
30:15>> Well, I don't like likely at all. This is my biggest disagreement here is that you had likely ahead of and even people
30:21to me. Let's hear it.
30:23>> Well, Isaiah likely the he's with the same coach that held him to a 53% route share the last two years,
30:28>> bro. I don't think that's a good argument when Mark Andrews was the ascot and then Charlie Kolar got the bag.
30:36>> Did Colar run routes?
30:38>> I mean, he was eating into Snapshare.
30:41No, >> bro. That's not a That's not a good argument. You would use the argument you just said against me if I were on the
30:48other side of this. the fact that he couldn't play over Charlie Kolar, a guy who has zero production in the NFL, a
30:55guy I like, but >> I mean, he's now a top 10 highest paid tight end. Theo Johnson's a nobody. He's not a great blocker.
31:01>> He's a much better blocker than Isaiah Likely, and he's big and athletic and physical, and he's perfect for play action passes. It's like, and you just
31:09saw it in the preseason game, too.
31:11Nothing's changed. John Harbaugh's still going to 53% route share the guy.
31:15>> I mean, every beat writer is saying he's an every down player.
31:18>> Beat writers don't know anything. We just did a show on this, Scott.
31:21>> Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
31:23All right. So, so again, >> thank you, Brett. Thank you for calling me out cuz you're just making my tight ends that I'm I'm not moving likely
31:32below tight end 11, but and I still like him as a target, but I think you're right. It's also just the the
31:39discrepancy in the offenses. Like, clearly there's so much more touchdown upside. Sure.
31:43>> On the Eagles and the the Giants.
31:45>> Yeah. I'd probably even go got ahead of Pitts, but these aren't my rankings.
31:48These are yours. I think God I think you nailed it. There's a chance he is the the number one option in the offense
31:53this year. So, um, you know, Herz is has always had a great connection with him.
31:58The new the new pass game situation with Shawn Manion as well should really favor Dallas. Manion coming over from a really
32:0712 personnel heavy team. Actually, Packers and Browns set the standard for 12 personnel last year, not the Rams and the Seahawks, believe it or not. Um, and
32:16and Manion's going to implement a ton of Dallas Goddard stuff. So, I'm pretty pretty juiced up for Goddard this year.
32:21But, uh, round out your top 12. See, this these will be all your tight end ones. Who is your your final tight end
32:27in this tight end one group?
32:29>> Uh, it's Dalton Concincaid, who really has one of the most persuasive bull arguments that you could make. Last year, only three receivers averaged over
32:37three yards per route run. It was the goats. It was Puka Nakua, Jackson Smith, and Jigba. And it was Dalton Concade.
32:45What? What? Yeah, it was Dalton Concade.
32:48Uh, per route superstar. He ran a route on just 44% of the team's drop backs.
32:53That was half that of Trey McBride. Um, and that's the only reason why he didn't have over 1,700 yards like Puka and JSN
33:01had. Uh, but it also means like, hey, if if he's a full-time player, he could be breaking leagues as this hyperefficient
33:10pass catcher in a Josh Allen offense. Um he also like was playing through a number of injuries last year. If you
33:18exclude all weeks a player was on the injury report. He was a top five tight end by fantasy points per game. Um you
33:25could do that. You could you know I I could pull similar stats like that just adjusting for injuries. And so it's hey
33:30maybe there this is a tight end five we're drafting at tight end 14. Um, the problem is like I I'm kind of
33:39pessimistic he sees a major increase in playing time. I think the team likes Dawson Knox. I think the team likes Jackson Haw. I think Concaid is a
33:49liability as a blocker. I think he tips.
33:51>> That's not true.
33:52>> Play calling hand.
33:54>> That's not true.
33:55>> Okay, give argue against me, Brett. So if you look at onoff splits with concade since he's been in the league, EPA per
34:02rush, yards per carry, explosive run rate are all higher with concade on the field than off.
34:07>> So this is wrong. I actually pulled this up. It's at least over the last two years. Uh the Bills are better with
34:15concade off the field than on the field.
34:17I I I can pull it up and show it on screen.
34:20>> Yeah, please do because I I'm using the same tool you are and I got very different numbers. So Oh. Oh, I took out
34:27QB runs, though. Did you do that?
34:30>> I have no idea.
34:32>> You have to take out QB. You have to take out Q.
34:34>> So, either way, it's not a good argument if you can kind of >> Well, no, it is. It's still like a
34:39sample of 500 players.
34:40>> Okay. It's It's coming up on the screen here.
34:44So, um that was a quote from Brandon Bean, who I hate and is my mortal enemy.
34:50He said, quote unquote, "We're a better offense with Dalton Concincaid on the field." Um, okay. Their pass, this is weird, their pass game is worse. Um,
35:01since Dol Concincaid came into the league, Buffalo's pass game is actually more efficient with him off the field.
35:07Their adjusted net yards per attempt drops. Their EPA per dropback falls. And so what I think it is is again, they're
35:15tipping their play calling hand. It's, oh, Don Concincaid's coming on the field. It's obvious they're going to pass the ball. We know how to play this.
35:23And so even though he's such a good per route receiver, it drags down the passing attack as a whole where maybe
35:31the running game is more efficient, but that's Josh Allen running the ball or it's teams expecting the pass.
35:38>> Yeah. Well, this this is an argument for him to play more snaps. If you want to remove the tell, you you get them on the
35:44field and run more rundowns.
35:46>> Like >> I'm serious. like they're going to play more 12 personnel this year per Joe Marino who's >> the the living legend Bills
35:54>> did you know what the most efficient personnel grouping of any offense was last year >> 13 >> it was the Bills and 13 personnel all
36:04that talk about the Rams and 13 >> or the Seahawks and >> we just didn't do it enough was the problem but yeah
36:11>> so I mean what kind of route share should we be expecting for Don Kate >> well what's he been at like 51% the last
36:16two years he also dealt with the was it a PCL also?
36:20>> Yeah, he this is the healthiest he's ever been. They're raving about his health.
36:25>> Says they want him on the field more.
36:27>> I think if he gets up to like 62 63% route share, you're you're going to be vindicated at having him as a tight end
36:33one.
36:34>> If he stays at 50% it could be still.
36:37>> But so long as it's under 70% the odds of him being having again I'm upside wins championships.
36:44>> Right. Right. Right. And especially at these onesie positions, really all that matters is top three upside. If you have the tight end eight, if you draft the
36:53tight end nine and he finishes tight end seven, that really does nothing for you.
36:57That's basically worthless in terms of war wins above replacements in terms of odds of making it to your championship because these positions just don't
37:05matter. Uh, and so if he doesn't have true top three, top five upside, which again, a guy under a 70% route share, I
37:12don't think he has. Um, is why I kind of feel good about Don Concaid here and why I'll probably put him in the C tier, B
37:19tier.
37:21>> I wish you could give me pluses. He's a C++, whatever that is.
37:26>> No, you get you get six buckets to put guys in. You don't need pluses and minuses. Come on. Can you like Canc
37:31ahead of Warren or below Warren for for tier maker? I So, here's here's the thing is I don't want to draft Concaid
37:38as my tight end one, but I really like him as a tight end, too. Um, and then in ESPN, you could get him tight end 14.
37:47So, in ESPN, he's a B or an A, but everywhere where else he's going tight end 10, and he's a D or an F. So,
37:55whatever.
37:56>> And by your own Well, by your own logic, Warren has top three potential.
38:00>> Concaid doesn't. So, by default, Warren has to be higher is my my take.
38:04>> Yeah. Just put it put him Ctier Trey, but just behind Warren. Just make sure he's behind Warren. All right, now we're
38:11into the fun ones. The remaining five, the 11 through 15. These are I would call your sleepers, darkh horses.
38:19One of my all-time favorite players, Mark Andrews, tight end, Baltimore Ravens. This guy, >> this this is a Brett question. This
38:26like, so a lot of these I'm picking your brain for the first time, and I'm really grateful. I I actually thought we kind
38:32of talked about this already, but uh so Mark Andrews upside argument is over the last three years he ranks behind only George KD and
38:41fantasy points per route run and now he's going to see a major uptick in route's run because Charlie Kar is no
38:47longer there. Isaiah likely is no longer there. The downside argument is he's probably washed, Brett. And I don't know. You tell me if this is true or
38:56not, but last year was his first season with a yards per route run below two. He was all the way down at 1.33. That's
39:04awful. By ass, he was top three in ass every single year of uh since we started doing ass.
39:12And then he fell all the way down to tight end 15 last year. So, you tell me.
39:16Is that, you know, was he kind of checked out because Lamar Jackson wasn't healthy? Was he potentially playing hurt? Or is he just old and washed? You
39:25tell me, bro.
39:26>> I definitely don't think he's old and washed. He's still the the NFL leader in in tight end ass over the last two
39:32years. So, if you if you look at 24 and 25 together, >> I mean, again, he was 15th last year and
39:37he was first the year before that. That that represents a drop off to me.
39:40>> Yeah. He played through a glute injury late in the season. Lamar Jackson missed a bunch of time. I I do think there's
39:48reasons for that for sure. Am I excusing all of it? No. I mean, he's getting old for sure. Um I think he's still awesome
39:53though. I think the tape is still pretty good. So, >> and then you you think about the way both him and Isaiah Likely, a lot of
39:59their production came on scrambled drill type stuff. So, >> where Lamar is is breaking the pocket and finding his favorite targets,
40:07>> Andrews is still a huge touchdown threat as well. Um I think he a lot of his fantasy points the last two years have
40:13been >> been um touchdown driven but this year more than any year I feel so good about the role without likely there without
40:20Charlie Kar there and then Z Flowers being the only other competent pass catcher on the roster at the moment.
40:27They have young guys and Jacobe Lane and Elijah Sarat but they're they're not going to be ready to take a huge load.
40:31So I think uh Mark don't don't you do that to me. Don't >> What were we talking about before we hit
40:40record? Actually, >> we shouldn't we shouldn't bring it up right now. I can promise you that. Uh >> I was talking about my zinc
40:47supplementation.
40:48>> Yeah, ex exactly.
40:51Uh anyways, we're talking we're talking ass and and and Mark Andrews taking big loads here on the show. So, congrats. Anyways,
41:00yeah, I I think he's in a really good position to have a strong workload. I think the the sentiment around the
41:07building is that they agree they didn't do anything to address pass catcher. So Matthew Hner in the what fourth round plus those receivers like that those
41:15aren't needlemoving moves. I I think they're counting on Zay and counting on Mark Andrews to be the difference makers there. So
41:21>> yeah. So I I was going to put him in the C tier, but if if you feel strongly in having him over Concaid, we could bump
41:28him up to the B tier, Brett.
41:30>> Yeah, let's let's let's Btier him.
41:32>> All right. Well, yeah. So, I'll probably move after this recording, probably move Andrews up a spot in my rankings. Um,
41:39because again, for the folks at home who who are new to this show, Brett is literally the best film guy in the
41:45industry. This isn't like your typical fantasy football slop that you watch on YouTube. This is I'm one of the best analytics guys and Brett is the best
41:54film guy in the game. Uh, tight end 14.
41:59This is a you. So Chris Wex thinks I'm insane for this, but I have a Travis Kelce tight end 14.
42:06>> He thinks low or high.
42:08>> He Chris has him like tight end eight just and he's like so the two best arguments are going to be come from
42:15Chris and come from Zack Swelles. Shout out to uh one of our best charters uh fantasy points data who's who's on his
42:22honeymoon right now. So shout out to Zach. I really thought he made one of the best arguments. Um, let me pull up his his twitter. Um,
42:34someday someone will need to study how frequently Travis Kelce just gets lost in coverage. It's like Moses parting the Red Sea when Kelsey finds a soft spot in
42:45the coverage and no one was it is in within 10 yards of him. This is precisely why Kelsey will once again be
42:52a top seven tight end for fantasy. And bro, I've been saying this for years. I have no idea how Travis Kelce does it
43:00cuz he kind of looks washed. Um, but he just does that constantly. He's just like the only guy you have to account
43:07for and defenses just forget he exists constantly and he breaks open a big play. Um, so you tell me why that
43:13happens cuz I have no idea. It's it's flabbergasted me for years.
43:17>> It's just it's just Mahomes extending plays, man.
43:19>> Is that what it is?
43:20>> That's really all it is. I'm >> You have that mindmeld connection.
43:24>> Yeah, totally. Kelsey just works to space and the defense is tracking Mahomes. So, they're usually going against the grain. I uh
43:32>> the other part of it >> Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
43:34>> Is is Chris Wack doing the projections?
43:36This is the best projections guy in the industry last year. Um it's so I'm down on Rasheed Rice. I don't
43:46like Xavier Worthy. I think Patrick Mahomes is a very good quarterback. And it's like there's you when you project out targets, the math just doesn't math
43:56unless you have Travis Kelce as like a fringe tight end seven. My thing again is like I I just don't see league
44:04winning upside here and I don't see and I see a pathway to like he can get injured, he's old, etc.
44:11>> Chris also doesn't believe they're gonna uptick the the run game, right?
44:15>> No, he does. He does. He has that baked in. It's still Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid who ranks top three in pro every
44:22year.
44:24>> Yeah, I do think it's gonna die. Also, there's a crazy split with with Rashi Rice on the field. Kelsey's production
44:30drops off a cliff.
44:31>> He turns into an absolute absolute ghost. My my cheeky stat from my article was uh uh he averaged 18.6 6 fantasy
44:41points per game before dating uh Taylor Swift and now he's down to 12.7 since dating Taylor Swift.
44:49>> They're not very >> Brad. If I started dating a billionaire, do you think I'd be better or worse at my job?
44:55>> I'm going to go on a limb and say worse.
44:58>> Probably.
44:59>> You know, I think uh you'd probably just relax a little bit. No.
45:04>> Can I relax? I don't.
45:05>> No, you don't. You don't have that in you. No, you don't.
45:08>> All right. The last guy we're going to talk about today, and this is really fun one. Oh, sorry. Sorry. We are We got to
45:14tar him. Where Where's Kelsey getting tiered?
45:17>> Uh, D tier. All right.
45:25Oh, actually F. Screw that. He's tight end. The lowest he is anywhere is tight end 11. So, I have to put him tier.
45:33>> Yeah, you got to go F.
45:34>> Um, >> all right. Terrence Ferguson, last tight end. I love Terren Ferguson. I like this is an exodia in FFPC leagues. He's a
45:44young exciting 23-year-old sophomore tight end. You have the the best Rams beat writer, Nate Atkins, for the Athletic, saying this is going to be the
45:53team's number three receiver this year, which means tremendous contingent upside given uh Puka Nakua being an injury risk, a suspension risk, uh Devonte
46:04Adams being 34 year old with bad hamstrings. Uh and as Ryan Heath and I have always said, the best way place to
46:13find league winners is in a Shawn McVey offense. Um, and so I love his odds at a ceiling outcome.
46:21Uh, FFPC leagues, he's an S tier.
46:25Everywhere else he's like D because like I I just kind of don't think he matters. I think he's not going to go
46:32get drafted in your league. And I think, you know, you could pick him up if Devonte Adams gets injured, but he's not
46:39really a player I I feel the need to stash.
46:44D tier. That was a really compelling case for having him top 15.
46:48>> Yeah. So, I mean like I'm higher I'm higher on him than anyone, but he's still my tight end 15 and tight end 15
46:56just doesn't matter.
46:57>> Well, you have a very productive player right behind him. Not that we're talking about him today, but Jake Ferguson at
47:0216.
47:04So, ju just like Jake Fergus, >> it feels like the same argument to me, but like Jake Ferguson goes 10 rounds
47:12earlier. Jake Ferguson last year when CD Lamb was healthy, when the team figured out George Pickkins's elite, um, from
47:22week eight on, he was the tight end 26 by fantasy points per game. He was the tight end 34 by targets per route run.
47:29So, it's the same argument. Yeah, when CD Lamb got hurt, he was awesome. And it's like, okay, if Devonte Adams gets
47:35hurt, I'm really bullish on Terrence Ferguson. U, but assuming everyone stays healthy. And so, yeah, I don't feel the need to draft these guys. I don't want
47:43to stash them and and carry dead roster weight unless it's an FFPC or a deep roster format. But in a typical 12 team,
47:53D on both.
47:54>> Cool. That's fair. With Jake or sorry, with Terrence, it's uh my only real worry because he has the talent to
48:01be amazing. He has the the exact profile you want. Elite after catch guy, elite vertical juice.
48:07>> Terrence.
48:08>> Yeah. Terrence. Yeah. But the problem is they they're going to roster five tight ends, Scott, >> and you're gonna have packages where
48:15it's Higgby and Parkinson or it's Higgby and Davis Allen and then Max Claire is he a factor at all or is he just get red
48:21shirted because he's the fifth tight end and he's but he's a second round pick still. It's like that all that stuff's
48:26confusing. I do agree Ferguson ceiling output is probably pretty crazy.
48:30>> Listen, blindly drafting cheap Shawn McVey players has made Fantasy Point subscribers a fortune. It was Kairen Williams going undrafted. It was Puka
48:40Nakua going undrafted. It was Hey, we saw Tyler Higgby have a stretch where he had four straight 100yard games. Uh we
48:48said in the everything report to pick him up.
48:50>> Uh and so yeah, it just made us a ton of money. So like, you know, I I'm going to I'm going to stick with that.
48:57>> All right, cool. That's it. Your top 15.
49:00How do you feel?
49:01>> I don't know why we're adding a poop tier. OH NO. OH NO.
49:06UH, this is our producers's boldest take is Enron Daye Ga Gaston is gonna get totally out alphaed by Charlie Charlie Kolar which is kind of what
49:18every Chargers beat and insider is saying.
49:21>> Yeah, I >> that was cold blooded.
49:23>> I I really like Charlie Kolar. I think he's a really good player. Clone to the bone by the way. He was a dominant pass
49:30catcher in college and then got stuck behind Mark Anders and Isaiah likely after a really injured rookie season. So I I do think he's an every down type
49:39tight end and then they also have David and Jooku in the mix. It's going to be messy, man. I was talking to Chris Wet
49:44Scott and I know we're not talking about this on the show right now, but we're going to to end this.
49:49I feel like projecting the Chargers this year is going to suck week to week.
49:53Maybe not at wide receiver where it's pretty clear you have QJ Lad and Trey Harris, but at the other positions you
50:00have three running backs in the mix. You have three tight ends in the mix. Like good lord, man. That's that's a that's a
50:05tough job. I feel I feel bad for Chris having to do that. It's reminds me a little bit of like the Broncos last year
50:12to an extent. What do What do you think?
50:17>> Uh what were you saying? I was tuned I was tuned out. I thought we wrapped up.
50:20>> My god.
50:22>> Cut it out. Edit. What was your question? Just repeat it.
50:25>> I'll just end the show now. Okay.
50:28>> All right. Take us take us out.
50:29>> All right.
50:31All right, guys. That's going to do it for us today. Thanks for listening. A reminder, uh Brett and Scott on the
50:36Fantasy Football Daily Show is a daily thing now. We'll be here every single day. We're going to keep going with Scott's rankings. QBS should be next.
50:44Thanks for sticking with us. We are out.
