0:00What's going on? It is Fantasy Football Daily. I am Gram Barfield joined by Mr.
0:04John Hanson. The guru is in the house.
0:07Today, we're going to be going through a mock draft from the 104. If you're listening [music] to us on the pod, if
0:12you're listening to us on YouTube, what is going on? We're going to try to draft the best team possible from the 104.
0:20>> [music] >> John, you just dropped your draft plan.
0:30I'm sure we're going to be drafting some of the players that you like from this spot. It is the 104. We're probably
0:35going to get one of Jamar Chase or Puka Nacua here, and then we will go from there. John, how are you doing, man?
0:41>> Doing well. Uh we were just talking about like I'm all in on the on all the all the ADP and all the, you know,
0:46roster construction. As you mentioned, the draft plan is up. Uh we're doing from pick four in round one. Ironically, I don't do every single spot. I do like
0:56one, three, five, seven. But obviously, we got the team I drafted from the three hole and then the five hole close enough
1:03here. And as we were just talking off the air like there's no right answer.
1:07Like there's a lot of high-quality talent in the first like 50 players. Then there's another big drop-off around 100 players. Like
1:17you know, there there's no right answer here. Like, you know, we could certainly go wide receiver in round number two. I
1:22wouldn't advise against that because I think the the depth is pretty good down the board. Probably going to look into running backs. But what if Brock Bowers
1:28is there? That's that's decision time.
1:30And then rounds two, I mean, three, four, like we kind of know what we're going to do, but we're not locked into anything. It
1:37It base It's based on how the the board goes and all that. But, you know, a lot of options here when you're picking in
1:44most places, uh quite frankly, this year, at least the first three, four rounds.
1:49>> Yeah, this is the one of the best second-round running back groups that we've had in quite some time, John. I
1:54mean, it's just a super talented group.
1:56Uh we'll have the 209 on the comeback, so we'll see who comes back to us here.
2:01We get the draft started just lay of the land here. We're starting one quarterback, two running backs, two receivers, a tight end, and two flexes.
2:11This is a PPR draft and we are doing 10 rounds. There it is. We'll go Jamar Chase. Easy easy money.
2:16>> I actually already predicted that. I knew you would go before Chase.
2:21>> Yeah, we have it we have in terms of projections, Chris has it Puka over Chase. I I've been on the opposite end.
2:27I I like Chase over Puka. I think there's just a little more upside with that Bengals pass offense, John. It's just man, Joe Burrow might need to drop
2:34back 650 times this year.
2:37>> Chase is definitely safer, right? I mean what what what else does Jamar Chase have have to show? Basically he's been
2:43durable. You know, he kind of gets dinged up, plays hurt. I mean he's an absolute stallion. Puka, the physical playing style, you do worry about the
2:52off off the field stuff. So, yeah, I I I got no problem taking Chase here at four. It's a Again, I think
2:59there's only I see a big drop off after Puka.
3:06There's only three. Puka, Chase, and Amon-Ra. I think there's a big drop off right there.
3:12>> Yeah, I agree. There's a huge drop off.
3:14I think that we see it here in this draft. JSN goes over Amon-Ra. John, you and I have both been saying this in all of our shows
3:21we've done together. We prefer Amon-Ra over JSN.
3:23>> Yeah. Yeah, because we're looking I'm always looking to be anticipatory here. Like everyone who has a brain is thinking that JSN is not
3:33going to replicate what he did last year. He's got the contract, Kubiak's got like it's not going to happen. Now, that said, I've taken him in some FFPC
3:42drafts at like six, seven overall. I I think it's a solid pick, but it's not the same as last year when we were pro
3:51at or at least I was, proactively saying get JSN early third round because it's going to be a great ROI. Like we're not
3:58getting that ROI this year, but he's still a damn good player and one of the most successful impressive seasons I've ever seen from a wide receiver last
4:06year.
4:07>> Yeah, it'll be hard to duplicate that. I think I'm with you in terms of the efficiency, but I mean they didn't add
4:12anybody, John. I mean it's like it's just Rashid Shaheed and Cooper Kupp, dusty Cooper Kupp. Uh they'll do their 12 personnel and multiple tight end
4:18stuff, but I mean J- there's nothing holding JSN back from another 30% target share.
4:23>> Is there a secondary receiver that you like cuz believe it or not, I I just did a big update on my top 200 list. I had
4:29to get this guy at least in the top 200.
4:30I know it's the most boring play I'll bring up all summer, but kind of like A.J. Barner. Like he was pretty good
4:37last year down the stretch. I think Sam Darnold really trusts him. Like who's to say A.J. Barner doesn't get some more
4:43red zone love, score six, seven touchdowns, and you know, hauls in like 59 balls and has a surprisingly good year.
4:51>> Yeah, I I think Barner or Elijah Royal, one of those two guys, they're going to have some usable weeks for sure, but
4:56like I I I just think it's a big rotation after JSN, John. I I would like I like Tory Horton quite a bit as a deep sleeper
5:03last year. He's going completely undrafted this year. Uh he had a nice little stretch.
5:08>> Yeah, he went bad.
5:09>> Middle of the season, yeah, until he I think he he had a really bad groin or hamstring injury that that pretty much,
5:14you know, harpooned his season, but yeah, Horton maybe, you know, super super deep. I don't I don't think there's a secondary receiver here
5:21though. And I think this is a part of the reason I like J'Darien Price is a lot of the expected fantasy points in
5:26this this team should consolidate around just JSN and Price this season.
5:30>> Yeah.
5:30>> Uh looking at the one-two turn, nice little start there. Ashton Jeanty and Omarian Hampton from C-Bass, like that.
5:38Uh Brock Bowers goes at the two-three with a James Cook team. I love doing that with uh with a running back. I I
5:44did a team last night. I drafted a team from 105 or 106 I believe I got McCaffrey and then came back got Brock
5:49Bowers and they just loaded up on receivers in that fourth fifth round pocket.
5:54>> Sure. Because you're not going to get a super elite guy anyway. You didn't you you're you're out. You know what I mean?
5:59When you open a draft with like James Cook at what was that? Nine 10 overall?
6:04Like you know, there's a lot of sameness at wide receiver. So you might as well pivot pivot over to Bowers. I'm I'm with anyone
6:12who's in on Brock Bowers. Like and I liked him last year. It didn't go well, but I'm back.
6:17By the way, like if he balls the F out like my man's going to get paid this year.
6:23>> Oh yeah. Yeah, he is going to he's going to reset the tight end contract market.
6:27I'm for I'm with you 100% on that.
6:30Jamel, almost back up on the clock here.
6:32Chase Brown did go.
6:33Ken Walker if he gets back to us I would love that.
6:37Trey, if you wouldn't mind going over the running backs just real quick in the pool.
6:41>> Derrick Henry.
6:42>> Henry just went as well. So it would >> oh oh damn.
6:45>> So yeah, it was Hampton, Barkley, Brown.
6:47There goes Ken Walker.
6:49We're going to get goosed on >> got absolutely screwed.
6:53>> Yeah. Jer, we could go Jeremiah Love. We could we could punt. Go Nico. Drake Drake London just went. We could go Nico.
7:03>> Well, we've definitely got to get >> AJ Brown.
7:04>> You know, I hate to say I'm going to boy, this is I got a name for you that's it's going
7:10to be way early, but I think with one of our next two picks it I hate to say this this is an overpay, but how about
7:17Javonte?
7:18>> Yeah, I can't do it in the second round over Nico, but I think we should target him in the third.
7:22>> Yeah. Yeah.
7:22>> Uh to me it's either Nico or Jeremiah Love here.
7:28I'll let you break that tie or AJ Brown.
7:30One of those three.
7:31>> Uh I hate to say it. I'm just going to go Nico.
7:34>> Yeah. All right, we'll still we'll go receiver receiver.
7:37It's an old old 2000 what? 19? 20 draft actually.
7:40>> James start.
7:41>> [laughter] >> Yeah, this is this is not the not the way that John and I are typically playing, but we did we're going to have
7:47to pivot here with with those running backs just flying off the board.
7:51>> What's funny about the skinny jeans is, you know, I you remember 5, 7, 10 years ago I said, "All these guys out there in
7:56skinny jeans drafting seven straight wide receivers." You know what's out?
7:59Skinny jeans and zero RB around.
8:02>> [laughter] >> Yeah, I was never a I could not do the skinny jeans for sure, but yeah, they're both out. They're both out. That's
8:08that's for sure. We're we're kind of being forced into a little bit of a zero running back build here, John.
8:13>> We are.
8:15>> I'm going to go I'm going to go shopping for some skinny jeans, but Oh, no. I'm sure I'm I'm not sure your
8:21wife would have would tell you that.
8:23>> [laughter] >> Imagine coming home with some skinny jeans.
8:25>> Well, there are all kinds of skinny jeans when you're my age and you're kind of flabby. It's it all, you know, kind
8:29of just >> [laughter] >> jamming in there.
8:31>> Yeah.
8:33Yeah, everything fits a little tighter when you get older. I feel you on that.
8:36All right, Malik Nabers is getting pushed back up into the second round.
8:41Coming some positive news, not going to be on the PUP list.
8:44>> I did the King's [clears throat] Classic draft, 14-teamer.
8:49>> Yeah.
8:49>> Industry draft. I got Nabers in the third round.
8:53>> There you go. Okay.
8:54>> Late third. It was like mid to late third. I was like, I had to do it. I also took Rashee Rice in that draft. I'm
8:59like, well, if I'm I'm I'm all in on no risk it, no biscuit for this team.
9:03>> Yeah, there's a ton of upside. That's for sure with with both those guys.
9:07>> [snorts] >> I mean, top eight wide receiver upside.
9:10You got Rashee Rice second round, I'm assuming, with that one?
9:13>> Uh yes.
9:14>> Nice. Yeah.
9:14>> 14-teamer, it was like 22 overall.
9:16>> Yeah. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, Nabers was getting pushed into the fourth round a few weeks ago with the news, you know,
9:22he might start the year on PUP, but super super bullish for him that he did not.
9:27I think that's just about the right price. He's like he should be going a little closer to the two-three turn now,
9:31maybe September.
9:33>> Yeah, Rashee is not not not gone just yet.
9:37Yeah, uh he might go right here.
9:40>> See, I took Rashee actually over Nico, believe it or not. Uh but again, 14-teamer and I'm looking for a major
9:47needle-mover. I thought Nico was a little boring. This is a 12-teamer. I don't think we need to be as aggressive.
9:54>> Yeah, uh 12-teamer and yeah, I mean uh we could Rashee Rashee might fall to us here if we wanted to go three
10:01receivers.
10:01>> Oh my god.
10:03>> Uh Breece Hall goes, Jeremiah Love goes.
10:05So, to me it's either Javonte or Rashee, actually.
10:09>> Yeah.
10:09>> Or Pickens.
10:10If that'd be the third option.
10:12>> we need to go Javonte. I mean, we we're not going to sleep at night if we don't have at least one RB1 that we feel good
10:17about. I mean, tied to a really good offense, all five starters, hell, all 11 starters return.
10:23>> Oh, we got sniped again.
10:25>> See, we're talking too much shite.
10:27>> Yeah.
10:28>> Here. Wow. Wow.
10:29>> pivot and go to Josh Jacobs.
10:31>> We could pivot and go to Trey McBride.
10:34>> True.
10:35Uh I would prefer Rashee another receiver, actually, I think if we we wanted to go there. I'd rather go Rashee.
10:41>> I think we almost have to go to Jacobs.
10:45>> Yeah. All right, we'll go to we'll go to Josh Jacobs here. He does project really well. Obviously, just the off-season,
10:51the you know, the the off-the-field stuff, you know, being We'll see how that plays out in the legal system in terms of his, you know,
10:57domestic violence case. Uh right now, it's July 28th we're recording this on.
11:01There's been no news. The Packers are still backing him. Uh he is He would solidly be going at the end of the
11:08second round, I believe, if that was not the case and he were cleared.
11:12Uh but yeah, this is a Go ahead.
11:14>> Also, keep in mind we're drafting against Fantasy Points subscribers. I mean, it's a it's a tough draft room here. We're getting our asses kicked a
11:19little bit.
11:20>> Yeah, we are. Yeah, that's one of the perks here of being a Fantasy Points subscriber. Sometimes we'll just drop a
11:25mock draft on a random Tuesday afternoon. You can come in here and draft against John and I. Uh Trey dropped this in the Discord a few hours
11:32ago, and it immediately filled. Uh but yeah, Rashee Rice goes right after. The pick right after Rashee Rice at the 3.05
11:39from BS Bowen here. McCaffrey, Drake London, Rashee Rice. That is a perfect start right there. I love it.
11:43>> Well, I mean, if I could do it all over again, I would have taken Jonathan Taylor, but I I I can't do it at four
11:49with with a absolute stallion.
11:52>> Yeah, I can't take I can't take McCaffrey or JT over Chase. I've just I can't I as much as I want to start, you
11:57know, with a running back in the first round, I I can't do it, either. I mean, Chase is just he's too good.
12:01>> As much as we also like value the running backs these days, let's not forget it arguably is the easiest position to
12:10acquire a guy out of nowhere who gets volume and has a role and produces.
12:15Like, it is kind of low-key an easy position to fill, although we all kind of want to be in the running back
12:21business these days.
12:23>> Yeah, it's it's easy to find replacement-level production in a way that it's not at receiver. There's just very few receiver breakouts off the
12:30waiver wire, John. This is a part of the reason why zero running back works so well back in the 2010s. It's like
12:35passing was at an all-time high. We were in the golden era of passing. And then, you know, running backs were getting
12:41injured left and right. We had like a number of years where where running backs got really, really injured. Like, 2015 was was kind of that prime year
12:48where uh zero running back really took over. Uh and it was that that was the play. It's now it's it's kind of
12:54flipped, and offenses are playing a lot slower, a lot more run heavy.
12:57Uh that's completely flipped, but I still like getting Josh Jacobs for this team. We'll see which running backs fall to us here in the fourth and fifth
13:04round. Uh we'll probably be be double-tapping running back here.
13:09>> There's a couple of guys >> and fifth round. Yep.
13:11>> Yeah, sorry to cut you off. There's a couple of guys that look really good as RB3s who are going off the board around fifth, sixth round.
13:19We're going to have to probably suck it up and roll with the one of those guys as the RB2.
13:24>> Yeah, I would love to get David Montgomery in the fourth round. if we could get David Montgomery that'd be fantastic.
13:29>> naming names. I didn't I thought we were going to stop doing that, but yeah.
13:33>> Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, this isn't >> [laughter] >> it's not live, but yeah, we every every You're right, John. We need to stop
13:38naming names cuz every time I bring up a name, we do get sniped. It that typically does happen. I got to real
13:44quick just mention Britley76 gets Trey McBride at the 311. That is the latest I've seen him go this year.
13:50>> 311, good band, too.
13:52>> Yeah.
13:52>> That guy's got to come original this year.
13:55>> Amber is the color of your energy and that's that's what Britney is that's what Britney is trying to to change things around.
14:01>> in this league here.
14:02>> [laughter] >> That truly that should that should I love Brock Bowers, but I don't know if there should be that big of a spread.
14:08203 for Bowers, 311 for McBride. That's a great price.
14:11>> You know, the one thing I'm thinking is you know, there's a number of players that seems like everyone's sharing a brain on. Pretty
14:18good players who were kind of fading or knocking down the board like I almost feel like I should do a draft uh you
14:25know, a counterintuitive draft and just draft all those guys. Trey McBride, um R J Harvey, you guys like that. See see what you see cuz I wouldn't be
14:35surprised if they do well, but we are fading most of these guys. At least I am.
14:39>> I'm I'm kind of in on Harvey actually. I just the pass-catching role on a Sean Payton Broncos offense, that's what's
14:45piqued my interest. Yeah, he's probably going to be splitting with JK Dobbins and Jona Coma at some point this season.
14:51You know, this back it's a split backfield for sure, but if there's one player who does have the upside, uh it
14:57is Harvey and it on Sleeper specifically, I think he's actually going too early. On other platforms John like FFPC and NFFC, he has gotten pushed
15:04into the 80s and 90s. I think that's a perfectly fine pick.
15:07>> Right. Yeah. I mean, it certainly is a bet on pedigree.
15:11And and I'm I'm usually all about that.
15:13It's just hard for me to kind of see a path see you know, again a path of I mean, things would have to go incredibly
15:21well. Like he'd have to improve his vision, his pass protection. Jonah Coleman would have to kind of fizzle out in year one and Dobbins would probably
15:30have to get hurt again. That's kind of a lot, but the but all could all very well happen though, to your point.
15:36>> It's just a price thing. I think the price is fine. It's just he's it's perfectly fine price for Herbert.
15:42>> he's fine.
15:43>> Uh if he if he goes in the sixth sixth or seventh round, that's when I would probably be a little more little more
15:48skittish. I had to I wanted to see what C-Bass would do at receiver here. He goes Luther Burden for the upside and
15:53then Terry McLaurin is kind of like the the boring veteran value. I like that quite a bit for his two receivers. Man,
15:59I got to get a Gentry and Hampton team.
16:00I I haven't had that had a chance to to start my draft like that just yet. I like that quite a bit there at the
16:05one-two turn.
16:07>> Yeah, I'm feeling on Hampton, man. He he is a clean pick, man. That is a clean pick.
16:12>> There is a lot to like in that profile.
16:15That is for sure. Kyren Williams gets pushed down in the fourth round, John.
16:19This is the fifth >> It's another one. Kind of maybe counterintuitively, you know, everyone's talking about Kyren Williams.
16:24>> Yep.
16:24>> Right, but but like maybe one team you draft all the the fades and see see what happens.
16:30>> Well, I mean in the fourth round, I'm I'm perfectly fine with him. I just cannot draft Kyren Williams over Tee
16:37Higgins. I can't draft him over DeVonta Smith or Zay Flowers or Trey McBride.
16:41Uh you know, it's just a limited upside pick in the third round, but fourth round is is a lot it definitely a
16:47it's a fine value for sure.
16:48>> That's a solid team though. It's you know, you're not you're taking all established players here, but team 11 starts with
16:55Justin Jefferson, Saquon Barkley, Trey McBride, and Kyren. That's you you do have an anchor run a wide receiver. You do have your solid at running back, and
17:05you've got a stud tight end. That's a that's a pretty good start.
17:08>> You buying the Jefferson bounce back, John?
17:11>> [sighs and gasps] >> To an extent.
17:13Um I I definitely I it's going to get better.
17:17Um but you know, I don't think people realize that he was part of the problem last year. I don't I don't know what you
17:22think about it, but that's my takeaway.
17:23Justin Jefferson was part of the problem last year.
17:26>> Yeah, he absolutely was. We saw how low the floor can get. I I guess the the one thing that holds me back is like Kyler
17:32has never really been the most accurate passer down field. It's certainly an upgrade, that's for sure. He should be able to run the offense a little better,
17:41but I think there's there's still some downside with Jefferson. Uh you know, he's for sure one of the best receivers in football, but we've seen the Vikings
17:50kind of just completely mis-evaluate their their quarterback position.
17:53>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:54>> They should They should have kept Darnold though.
17:56>> way though. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. I I was okay with them. Still okay with it.
18:01You know, Sam Darnold wasn't winning the Super Bowl leading the Vikings last year. I don't believe that. I really don't. I think Kubiak might be better
18:07than O'Connell by the way.
18:09>> Oh, I 100% agree with you on that one. I mean, he he absolutely maximized the talent of that offense. And then
18:15obviously McDonald with that defense was was fantastic. John and I are about to be back up on the clock here at the 409.
18:22I I will see if we get goosed on the guy I mentioned earlier. I I won't mention names here. But if Trey could you could
18:28you pop over to running backs? Yeah, thank you, sir. Uh yeah, I'm not a Travis E.T.N. E.T.N. E.T.N.
18:34However you want to say it, I'm not not really totally in on that, but fourth round is fine. He's gotten re-priced
18:41with Alvin Kamara coming back. If we wanted to go that route, John.
18:45>> Where are you on uh >> Oh man.
18:48>> on Tooten compared to that other player?
18:50>> Yeah, I I'm you know me, I'm big on Basile Tooten. I think he's a good pick in the fifth round. All right, we're
18:55going to get David Montgomery. There you go. Boom. Easiest click that we've made so far. Feel good about that. Jamar Chase, Nico Collins, Josh Jacobs and
19:02David Montgomery to start our draft. I would like to take another running back here and maybe we'll take Tooten.
19:08But yeah, I'm I'm in. I'm in on Basile Tooten. Led this backfield in yards after contact per attempt, led in missed
19:13tackles forced per attempt, success rate last season on albeit a smaller sample size than than Travis Etienne.
19:18Um but man, I mean there's there's real upside here in this backfield. I mean there's it's a Liam Cohen backfield. I
19:23mean they've they've produced he's produced for you know, back-to-back seasons you know, with the Bucks and the Jags.
19:30Produced you know, top 12 fantasy numbers at times John at the position.
19:34There's some real upside here. Uh Chris Rodriguez has not been able to practice all summer, you know, I like it quite a
19:39bit for this team especially.
19:41>> Of course uh the guy that I was going to suggest it just went off the board right after we took Montgomery. That was
19:45D'Andre Swift.
19:47>> Yeah, I I was >> more than To'oTo'o.
19:50>> I like Swift as well. I think there's a little more upside with To'oTo'o. Swift just feels like a floor play. D'Andre
19:56Swift has finished as a top 24 running back in points per game in every year of his career. It's pretty crazy.
20:01Uh do you like him do you like Swift more than Etienne, John?
20:04>> Yes.
20:05I trust him more.
20:07You know, overall better offense. I mean let's be honest.
20:11It's a better offense.
20:13>> Kamara coming back definitely hurts Etienne's like receiving upside. I don't know if it really changes like how much what you think of his like median
20:21projection in terms of the rushing.
20:23But uh yeah, I mean it it definitely hurts the upside quite a bit. Hurts the upside case.
20:27>> empty empty calorie guy a little bit each year. Etienne. Can we call him Etienne instead of Etienne at the very
20:33least? How about Etienne?
20:35>> Travis Etienne.
20:36>> Etienne.
20:36>> Etienne. Just combine the two. Uh Tet McMillan goes at 4.12. This is actually where I kind of think he should be
20:43going. He's more of a 3-4 turn pick in most leagues.
20:46Uh but Jamyr Gibbs, Breece Hall, A.J.
20:49Brown, and Tet McMillan for our guy Troy Mowry who's a part of the Fantasy Points Data. He's part of the Fantasy Points
20:54Data crew. He knows what he's doing up there at the 1.01. That's a nice And Christian Watson. This is a Fantasy
20:59Points crew right here.
21:00>> That's a nice pick.
21:01>> right in my heart right there cuz I've been getting Watson everywhere.
21:05>> Yeah, >> [sighs] >> I would have in round six in a 14-teamer over the weekend, the King's Classic.
21:12I mean, that was >> That's stealing.
21:15>> I also got David Montgomery. So, I open up Jonathan Taylor, Rashee Rice, comeback Malik Nabers, then David Montgomery.
21:25Uh >> Those are fantastic receivers in a 14-team league, John.
21:28>> And Watson as my three.
21:31>> Yeah, I I have been drafting a ton of Christian Watson. A little bit of a teaser here, John Hansen just dropped
21:37his draft plan last week. If you have not already subscribed to Fantasy Points, you can use code fantasy, get yourself 10% off, and read John's draft
21:45plan. Uh little teaser here, Christian Watson is absolutely one of John's favorite players. He's one of the 12. I won't say which one of the 12 he is, but
21:53he is a very, very high on that top 12 list.
21:56>> Yeah.
21:57>> Uh we'll come back here. It's probably going to be TuTu or Gosh, I I don't mind ETN here, actually.
22:07It's not terrible.
22:08>> I mean, you don't >> Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans. I love Garrett Wilson this year, actually.
22:12This This pretty good little pocket to draft from.
22:14>> What about uh I mean, do you look at like a tight end?
22:18BPA?
22:19>> Uh I think for structure for structure we Yeah.
22:24>> It's a tough draft room. We're getting our asses kicked here.
22:27>> Yeah, >> [laughter] >> Loveland just went in front of us. Uh Tyler Warren went in the fourth round, as well. So, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't
22:33look at tight end.
22:34>> Forget it. You know, I thought maybe Warren was available. I didn't notice he just got drafted.
22:37>> Yeah. Yeah, to me it's either TuTu or or uh Travis Etienne.
22:41>> Yeah, I'll go TuTu over E- E-Chan. Uh for what it's worth.
22:45>> [laughter] >> I'd rather have the You know, I can see a world where TuTu is absolutely delivers the goods.
22:53>> We'll go base all TuTu for a little bit of upside. We've got Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery, and TuTu as our three
22:58running backs. I I with TuTu, you know, he's definitely more of like a I would like I like him in these builds
23:05where I've got two rock-solid running backs, even though we kind of did go like with a little modified zero RB going Chase and Nico in rounds one and
23:11two. I like having kind of like the, you know, rock-solid production we can count on with Jacobs and Montgomery, and then
23:17just swing for the fences with Tuton.
23:19Etienne goes pick after to BS Bowen.
23:22He's got a McCaffrey, London, Rice, Loveland, and Etienne team.
23:27Yeah, John, I think this is just the the right price on Etienne. I think this is where he should have been going all
23:31along. He was a third-round pick a couple weeks ago, now he's he's sliding back into the fifth. I think this is the
23:36right spot for him.
23:37>> You know what I'm doing this year, and this is like literally the most basic point.
23:42It's like top five in terms of the most basic, rudimentary, elementary, whatever you want to say, points that you can make in terms of drafting. But I think
23:51we lose sight of it sometimes. I certainly have. This year, and we're doing it in this draft, I am trying my
23:57best to avoid drafting players on bad teams, period. Like I think Quen Chon Judkins is really good.
24:03>> Yep.
24:04>> Passed on him in the 14 teamer cuz I think the Browns might may stink. But if you look at our team our our team here,
24:10Bengals, I mean, that's what's a eight eight nine-win team uh by Vegas. Nico, you know, they they perennial AFC South winners.
24:21Uh who else we have here? Jacobs, you know, obviously good >> Packers offense Packers offense might be real good this year, John.
24:27>> Yeah, and we got another Houston, Texan, you know, good team. And then the Jags, playoff team. Like so all of our players
24:34are supposedly good teams. You know, I think that's one little minor little tweak that you can make to probably help yourself out this year.
24:43>> I'm with you on Judkins, man. I I love the talent, loved him coming out of college. I I had him ranked over
24:47TreVeyon Henderson as prospects. I I just think he's a fantastic running back, but man, I mean, it's just like it's a bad offensive line, bad
24:54quarterback, and a team total that I mean, it's a bottom three team total.
24:57It's It's really tricky and >> Exactly.
24:59>> This fifth This fifth-round pocket is I think pretty good for running backs. We haven't seen uh Bucky Irving just go go just yet, but
25:06you know, in the fifth round uh you know, attached to the Bucks as their early-down runner, I think it's a fine
25:10price. J'Darien Price, my boy, is starting to go a lot earlier, man. He's starting to get some steam. He was going
25:15in the sixth round pretty much all summer. He goes here at the 5.7 uh structure pick here from Phil 25. He
25:21needed a running back uh running back two, so I like that quite a bit, but yeah, I I you know, it it's it's for
25:29running backs in particular, John, um I think it's been one of the most underrated things. Like, unless you're a great pass-catcher like Devon Achane and
25:36you have that out where you're like getting high receiving volume, yeah, team quality is just like it's almost everything for running backs. It
25:44really is.
25:45>> Exactly. Exactly.
25:47>> Part of my concern for Jeremiah Love this season, Cardinals are dead last.
25:51>> Dead last in implied points per game.
25:53>> 100% 100%. I'm not even considering Love, quite frankly. And I've I've been a guy who said that for decades that you
26:01can often get nice little discounts with the rookies. Well, I'm not taking like any rookies this year. By the way, I'm not that into the
26:10rookies this year.
26:11Late Late-round dart throws fine, but like first 100 picks, you can have them.
26:16>> I like J'Darien Price, like I was saying.
26:18>> than Price.
26:19>> Yeah, the price The price has come up for sure on on J'Darien Price, but yeah, I like J'Darien Price. I I like taking
26:26shots on like KC Concepcion and Denzel Boston. I think one of these Browns receivers does pop. Um you know, the the
26:32volume should be there. Browns are going to have to pass a ton. Nobody's really talking about this, but this defense is
26:37going to take a massive step back with no Myles Garrett. Like, they they might be really, really bad this season.
26:43Uh which is good for the passing game. I still have major concerns, like I was just saying with the quarterback group,
26:47but you don't really have to pay for it uh with any of the rookie receivers there or Jerry Jeudy, if you want to go
26:52that route. I'm not a Jeudy guy Uh this season. Uh John >> round though. I'm I'm okay with it.
26:5813th, 14th round. He is still 27 years old.
27:02>> I know, it's crazy.
27:04He came into the league so long ago. I I know, it's it's crazy. We've been talking about this guy for It feels like
27:11legitimately 10 years.
27:12>> Yep.
27:12>> Um Brian Thomas goes at the 5.11. He has also come up in price. He was consistently going in the sixth round,
27:19but John, I got I got to say the value of this draft so far is Garrett Wilson at the 5.08. He should be going in the
27:24third round. That's phenomenal value there from the person drafting at 1.08 there.
27:29>> Yeah. Yeah, there's a you know, again, there's a lot of quality um you know, first 50 picks and then, you know, a little bit of drop off and
27:37and still more uh picks 50 to 100. I always know to not always, but like recently I'm just like I noticed that there's a little bit of a
27:44drop off after the first 100 picks. So, you got to you got to make you got to make those count and and there's some good quality
27:51throughout that 1 through 100 overall, you know, range.
27:55>> In particular at receiver, I think this this is this board, if you're watching us on YouTube here looking at the board
28:01right now, I mean, look at the quality of receivers going in the fifth round.
28:04It's Christian Watson, Jameson Williams, Mike Evans, Garrett Wilson, DJ Moore, Rondale Moore, and Brian Thomas. I feel pretty comfortable saying at least two
28:11of these players are really going to pay off their ADP.
28:14They're getting pushed Receivers getting pushed back because running back is getting pushed up. John and I kind of had to pivot pivot a little bit in this
28:20draft taking Nico at the 2.9. Came back, got our three running backs. John, which direction are you thinking in here for
28:29our next pick?
28:31>> Yeah, certainly not really thinking quarterback cuz Burrow Matt >> I would have liked Burrow, yeah.
28:38>> They're they're off the board. Um by the way, you know, like Burrow doesn't really run anymore.
28:43Like it's kind of crazy that people are taking Burrow in, you know, at like 45 overall when Matt Stafford, who just
28:51threw 46, is available 100 picks later.
28:57>> Yeah, Brock Purdy's going two and a half rounds later. Dak's going like a round and a half, two rounds later.
29:03Unless it's a Jamarr Chase or Tee Higgins team, I have not drafted Joe Burrow this off season. Yeah.
29:09>> I'm done with Burrow.
29:10>> I would have I would have definitely advocated for him from on this team for obvious reasons, but because we have Chase. I just Yeah, I I
29:18can't do that price either. Hey Trey, would you mind looking at receiver only for us real quick?
29:23Carnal Tate, Jordan Tyson, DK Metcalf. I am buying Marvin Harrison a little bit.
29:27This is a big long flat tier here. We could go I see you got your boy QJ already teed up, Trey. I I know where
29:33you're going with that one. This is It's a little too early for our boy QJ.
29:37All right, we're back on the clock here, John.
29:40Marvin Harrison would be my top receiver. I am buying a little bit of that bounce back. We don't necessarily need to go there. Running back, take a
29:46quick look there.
29:48Could go RJ Harvey, Jaylen Warren.
29:52Um Yeah, I don't like Harvey either.
29:54>> boy Chuba went off the board. That was pretty interesting. And it's a little too early for Rico. So, I think we got
29:59to go wide receiver. And I'm probably with you on Harrison. Not on my target list, but that is one player that I
30:06deliberated about for months in terms of like this is a huge year. Of course, last year was a huge year. He's all
30:13jacked up. Of course, last year he was all jacked up.
30:16But at least we got the Jacoby Brissett situation cleared up.
30:19And we took him. And and look, I'm I'm a big pedigree guy. Like there is a reason that Marvin Harrison was drafted when he
30:29was drafted. There is a reason that fantasy managers were taking Marvin Harrison at like freaking 15 overall a couple of years ago. So, it's a
30:37calculated risk and a a calculated bet that the the light finally comes on and we see the true best of Marvin Harrison
30:44this year in year three. I also think that the third-year breakout wide receiver might be coming back in vogue a little bit as well because, you know,
30:51this is one of the reasons it corresponds to my not really being into the rookies these days cuz the rookies have been kind of ass
30:58over the last couple of years. So, maybe the third-year wide receiver thing is kind of back.
31:02>> Yeah, I think we got a little We got a little treated by Ja'Marr Chase in his rookie season. I think a lot of people
31:07have you know, Malik Nabers as well.
31:08There's been some elite Puka for sure. I mean, there's been some huge receiver breakouts as rookies.
31:15But yeah, I mean, it by and large rookie receivers have been a little disappointing over the larger sample. I think Marvin Harrison's just good at
31:22football, man. I I Listen, I I was out on Harrison last year. I thought the price was crazy. He ended up getting
31:27hurt, but he played nine full games last year, John. And in those games, I mean, he was, you know, averaging 13.4 PPR
31:33points per game. That was wide receiver 17. The role was pretty good. Got 20% of the targets, 40% of the air yards.
31:39Pretty much completely ethered Michael Wilson. And now the entry point is a sixth-round pick. I'm way more interested in that. Even though I do
31:47have, like I was just saying, I got big concerns about this Cardinals offense this season. But the entry point for for
31:52for Harrison in the sixth round is is pretty nice.
31:55>> Well, the big thing is like who's going to line up at X?
31:59You know, I don't know if you saw the quote from Michael Wilson, but he said that most of the production that he, you
32:04know, the numbers he put up last year, he was playing X.
32:07So, he's going to They're going to give him a shot, I guess, to play X.
32:10>> He should be their vertical X receiver.
32:12I think I think they're going to kind of move all these players around. LaFleur is is certainly one of these guys who
32:17is, you know, he's not going to have just stagnant designated roles in this offense. They're they're going to be using a lot of motion to get Harrison
32:25and Wilson off press coverage, get them moving before the snap as well.
32:30So, yeah, Harrison should be their kind of vertical threat. I'm with you on that, but I think he he In terms of value, this is the best
32:38price that Harrison by far the the best price that I've been interested in for Harrison for a number of years. John,
32:44we'll come back here on the clock in just a second. I would be very interested in Jaylen Warren here if he
32:50gets back to us cuz I think after that uh Trey, if you wouldn't mind going to run a running back uh just real quick.
32:56>> the three though.
32:57>> Yeah.
32:58I like Jaylen Warren quite a bit here.
33:00>> Do we really need a fourth?
33:02>> Do you want to go I mean, Harold Fannin and Sam LaPorta just went the tight end.
33:05>> Oh, wow.
33:06>> have to pivot a quarterback.
33:08I I like waiting on quarterback this year.
33:10>> I mean, Daniels is not bad. I hate to say that at this point, you know.
33:15>> Let's wait on quarterback. Let's get another another running back here.
33:18I think I think running back is about to fall off a cliff here.
33:21>> Yeah, all right. You want to go Warren?
33:23That's fine. He is good. I loved him last year. Now, I like Rico more this year.
33:28>> Yeah, full PPR full PPR, he's going to be Rodgers' safety blanket underneath.
33:32Tom made a really good point on one of the pods we did a couple weeks ago. He's like, I think I kind of think Warren
33:37just takes over that Kenny Gainwell role.
33:39>> Oh, totally. Totally. Now, Rico is a pretty good receiver. So, he'll probably get some consideration there, but absolutely like Jaylen Warren deserves
33:48to play. And if Rico's going to get the majority of the early down carries, which we expect, um then I mean, that's it. He's got to
33:56be the third down back. But but that's probably his ideal role. Let's be honest.
34:01>> Yeah, he was miscast a little bit as their kind of centerpiece running back last year. I'm with you on that. You
34:06know, Caleb Johnson was just a complete bust. I think that's the way they wanted to play uh is playing Warren kind of more in his
34:12traditional pass-catching role. Part of the reason John I wanted to push quarterback is you got to feel the room.
34:17Josh Allen goes in the fourth round in this draft. Lamar Jackson gets pushed all the way into the seventh round.
34:22There goes Jayden Daniels. He definitely was the best player on the board, but I was just looking at this team from like,
34:27man, we we could really use another good running back that we feel feel good about uh just in case David Montgomery,
34:33you know, does split a little bit with Woody Marks in terms of the pass downs and, you know, we needed another player
34:38that we could kind of count on besides Braelon Allen. Here come all the quarterbacks. Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts go back-to-back as this this draft
34:46room pivots [laughter] back over to quarterback here.
34:48>> man. I mean, the bottom line is I Do I love our team? No. Uh Do I love Fantasy Points subscribers? Yes, I do.
34:57Uh >> [laughter] >> but but they're they're kicking not kicking our ass, but this is an ass-kicking draft. I mean, this is I
35:04mean, like we we we deliberated over Marvin Harrison and I I actually had the thought of, well, you know, if he didn't
35:12pan out, we can get Michael Pittman in three rounds two rounds. He went the next pick.
35:16>> The next pick, yeah. Yeah, this is a uh very very sharp room because Roschon Johnson went in the seventh round player
35:22that I've been pushing up my board as well as more of like a ninth-round pick.
35:26Uh yeah, running back running back dried up real fast there. I felt I felt pretty good about that Jaylen Wright pick just
35:32just cuz we we could use another running back on the team.
35:36>> from a roster construction perspective, like it just didn't work out for a tight end and certainly not a quarterback.
35:43When you open a draft in 2026, wide receiver wide receiver, you'll be damn sure I'm attacking running back cuz you don't
35:53want to be left out in the dark. That's exactly what we did. Uh is it the greatest group? No, but again, this is a
35:59really tough draft room.
36:01>> Yeah. Very very sharp draft room. Ricky Pearsall goes here in the seventh round.
36:06I was just typing him up a little bit as a little bit of a sleeper, John. I know you're in on Pearsall this season as
36:10well.
36:11>> Just just I mean, not a great sign that he's already got a knee brace on or still has a knee brace on. So, that's
36:18That's it.
36:18>> just being super cautious with it.
36:20>> Yeah.
36:20>> [sighs] >> Yeah, I know, but you know, I I promise people if Ricky Pearsall ever stays healthy fully for a whole year, he's
36:29going to go for like 1,100 plus yards.
36:33Uh maybe even 1,200. Like he's good.
36:35He's really good.
36:36>> Yeah, wide receiver nine in average separation score last season. Wide receiver three in route win rate. The small sample has
36:44been pretty good on Pearsall, John.
36:46You've got a pretty crazy stat like whenever he sees five or six more targets, he's been very productive in the passing game.
36:52>> it's like uh it's like wide receiver I think it's like 11 or something like that. In his in his healthy games
37:00>> too.
37:00>> with six or more targets. Yeah, the numbers are pretty outstanding.
37:04>> We'll round out here this seventh-round Cornell Tate goes at the 7-11.
37:09>> I'm not feeling Tate. I'm just not.
37:12>> And normally I would kind of kick the tires on a guy like that, you know, pretty talented guy, pretty sizable guy,
37:17going to step in, be the number one.
37:20Brian Daboll, more of a professional coordinator.
37:24Ward gets a another year a year under his belt, but I'm still just not feeling it, you know, with with Tate.
37:32I guess maybe if things are lights out in the preseason, I'll feel a little bit better about it, but they also have a
37:36bunch of other guys that are probably going to be in the mix. I'm just not What do you think about Tate?
37:41>> I can I have not been able to get super excited about it either. It's just He goes in a pocket where I'm I am pivoting
37:47over to quarterback usually in this range, taking a look at tight end as well. I just you know, Cam Ward closed
37:54out last season playing good ball, like legitimately good ball. If you're watching the Titans last four or five games, I thought Cam Ward took a big
38:01step forward in a bad situation last year. Obviously, Callahan gets fired after a couple weeks. Brian Brian Daboll should be a little bit of of stabilizing
38:09force there. Cornell Tate obviously has the talent to be an alpha wide receiver, but yeah, seventh round it's just it's it's tricky because
38:18I I think he's he's a player at least in year one who has limited upside due to the quarterback situation. And then they
38:23bring in Wan'Dale Robinson who's always been a target under John. Wan'Dale's always been at like a 20% target share.
38:28He will kind of cap a little bit of the ceiling for K'Neal Tate.
38:32>> I think I'm less interested in Wan'Dale, by the way.
38:35Than Tate.
38:36>> Yeah, Wan'Dale's just a floor like PPR play. I think he's I think he's underpriced in the sense of like projected volume. But yeah, in terms of
38:44upside, there's there's not a ton there.
38:46>> No.
38:47>> Uh receiver is looking pretty good here.
38:49DK Metcalf, you've been a DK Metcalf hater for a long time, but eight rounds >> pick. Like if I'm going to go against
38:57the grain or even my own thought, you know, not like I'm not wrong all the time when I make the hundreds of
39:03predictions. You know, I I want to draft my all, basically my skank squad.
39:08Uh and um Jalen Hurts would be my QB1.
39:12>> The the the hedge squad.
39:14>> The the hedge squad.
39:16>> The hedge skank squad.
39:17>> Right. Right.
39:19Yeah, this is man, I I'm I'm really >> I would like Kyle Pitts a lot here.
39:24>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, now as I just mentioned, we can't open two wide receivers and get a good tight end because we need
39:32the priority is running back, which you hit, because we'll get opportunities at tight end and and that's one of them.
39:38I'm actually shocked, by the way, that Herbert is long gone in that King's Classic, not to keep going back to that
39:45one, but I got Herbert two rounds after Lawrence in the 10th round.
39:51>> Usually those industry expert leagues, man, they they always push quarterback, in my opinion, a little too far.
39:58>> they did.
39:58>> Yeah. And that's that's one that definitely does. Uh Pitts goes, so we'll just punt tight end. I think this is
40:03just a big long flat tier. Let's take a look at quarterback.
40:07Uh we could go Dak here if we wanted to.
40:11Uh I kind of want to push quarterback as well for our last two picks.
40:15>> I do. I do.
40:16>> Yeah.
40:17Uh should we take another running back here?
40:19>> Who do we have at running back?
40:20>> seconds.
40:21>> Who do we have at running back?
40:23>> Dobbins, Kenny Gainwell, Aaron Jones.
40:28>> I mean, it's boring as hell, but Dobbins.
40:31>> I think Dobbins makes sense too, John.
40:32>> Yeah.
40:33>> Let's go Dobbins.
40:36Kind of an early season play.
40:39>> Yeah, and he could be an early season usable asset where maybe it takes a couple weeks for Bashaul Tuiton get
40:43ramped up. Uh this actually ended up being a pretty decent running back room here. Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery, Bashaul Tuiton, Jaylen Warren, and
40:50Dobbins. We've got a bunch of different kind of players here. Warren could kind of be the PPR guy. Jacobs and Montgomery
40:55hopefully get all the goal line stuff.
40:57And then Tuiton you just, you know, shoot for the moon here. Dobbins not a bad RB5 on this team. We're loaded at
41:02receiver with Jamar Chase, Nico Collins, and Marvin Harrison.
41:06>> I mean, it's boring, but there's nothing boring about guys getting consistent snaps and touches and fantasy points.
41:14And that That would be That would be Josh Jacobs in his career, by the way.
41:19And and basically David Montgomery in his career in terms of like maximizing the number of touches he gets. Sometimes in Detroit he didn't get a lot of
41:26touches.
41:27And then at least we've got a speck of upside here with Tuiton.
41:31>> Yeah, Tuiton definitely the upside play, that's for sure.
41:34Uh John, let's plan out this quarterback and tight end uh real quick.
41:38Um >> Well, >> I think we could just wait for last round on tight end. I think it's just like a big long flat tier. Um
41:45quarterback >> an old guy trying to squeeze another big year out of like Kelce or Mark Andrews?
41:52>> I like Andrews quite a bit late. Kelce's just like been almost unusable when Rashee Rice is healthy. Um yeah, there's
41:58a couple decent good games, but over the last two seasons Kelce's been like tight end nine or tight end 10 by volume. Um I
42:05don't know. I just I don't know if I necessarily want to bank that on a Chiefs team that's probably going to be running the ball a
42:11little more this season than than in in prior years.
42:13>> Well, I like Mandrews more as a pick as well.
42:17Even though we do have Kelce higher and I think I do as well, but Mandrews also goes after Kelce.
42:23>> Yeah.
42:25Let's go quarterback here. I Caleb Williams or Dak would be the two to me.
42:29>> Um Dak.
42:31>> Yeah, I Listen, I I I know watching Caleb Williams play football is frustrating as hell sometimes, but the guy's going to rack up fantasy points,
42:38man, in terms of his rushing ability and you know, in Johnson we trust.
42:42>> You you you you prefer Caleb?
42:45>> Uh yeah, I do. Especially especially Yeah, especially at this point of the draft here. I mean, it's really nice price. Like I was saying, quarterback
42:52has been pushed way down in this room.
42:54Caleb's going like seventh round in most drafts, sixth, seventh round, QB6, QB7.
42:59>> list, quite frankly, even though, you know, I I'm not vehemently against them.
43:03I think Dak is going to be fine, but he's a little older, doesn't run. Caleb, obviously, uh a lot of escapability and some
43:13serious firepower, but the the inaccuracy uh scares me just a little bit, but again, at this point I'm I'm fine with it.
43:21>> Yeah, Caleb Williams took, you know, pretty big step forward last year though, John. I mean, underneath the hood, the touchdown rate came up, yards
43:26per pass attempt came up. He really basically crushed his sack rate. He cut it in half last season.
43:32>> was impossible to sack.
43:33>> Yeah, and you know, I I really think, you know, Ben Johnson truly is, I mean, maybe the best play caller in football.
43:39It's either him or Sean McVay and I mean, 2 years ago, Ben Johnson, you know, coached Jared Goff's best season, got him a 37-touchdown season.
43:48>> Uh to your point, I do have I'm looking at my top two. I do have Caleb over uh Dak.
43:54>> It's just there's there's more upside there just cuz of the rushing ability, you know. That's really what it is.
43:58Dak's never going to run.
44:00>> Right.
44:01>> All right, so we'll go There goes Dak.
44:03The decision gets made for us. We'll go Caleb Williams as our quarterback.
44:08Uh Dalton Kincaid goes. Uh Wow, 9-2. I guess he's fourth in title.
44:14Oh, I see. I see.
44:15>> went right in front of us anyway.
44:17>> Yeah. Yeah, the decision got made for us there. I would Brock Purdy would have been the third option there for me and
44:22then probably Darnold and Mahomes in that order.
44:26Uh that would have been the way I would have I thought through that.
44:28>> have gone Purdy over Darnold. I'm not into Darnold at all.
44:31>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, Purdy Purdy's one of my guys this year for sure. Uh love him as a late-round quarterback.
44:36>> Though the Neighbors news absolutely does help the Darnold narrative.
44:40>> It does. It certainly does. Uh but man, I >> Did you see that introductory press conference with John Harbaugh? I mean, I
44:47kept saying it like what is like I just have a really bad vibe and it was all on display right at right out of the gate.
44:56The first freaking 5 minutes of their their team, you know, get-together for just to open up camp. Like, did you see
45:03that video?
45:04>> Yeah, what's the opposite of running through a wall? Uh >> [laughter] >> that's the that's the opposite of what I
45:09wanted to do after that.
45:10>> away from a wall.
45:12>> [laughter] >> There you go. Yeah, walking the opposite direction.
45:15>> I will walk away from a wall for that man.
45:18>> I just listen, I think Harbaugh is, you know, he's he's a CEO coach, right? Like I think that's we feel
45:25that's exactly what he is.
45:27As a CEO, man, hiring Matt Nagy to be your offensive coordinator, really it really raises some questions to me. I just I just can't get can't get can't I
45:36can't get over that with Matt Nagy. And then your Greg your Greg Roman's your backup. It's uh >> Yeah, like he can't quit Greg Roman.
45:42>> Jeez, you know?
45:44>> Like they ran him out of town, Johnny, while they were in there in Baltimore because his passing game was basically. Great great running
45:52game guy.
45:53>> I mean, Greg Roman was getting like offensive coordinator love because he had Lamar Jackson. You know, Lamar Jackson was the MVP. I I it wasn't it
46:00wasn't Greg Roman, it was Lamar Jackson being one of the freakiest players we've ever seen in the NFL.
46:05And yeah, Roman is a good run game coordinator. He's a fine run game coordinator, but yeah, the pass game is is a concern for the Giants this year.
46:13I'm with you on on D'onta though.
46:14Getting Neighbors back fully fully healthy is is nice for his uh for his [snorts] projection. I would round up the ninth round here. John, I
46:22think we're Let's see. I think we're going to be the last team to take a tight end. Yep. So, we'll probably get Mandrews
46:29or Kelse. One of the old guys will get an old at tight end.
46:32Um >> There's some crap on the board here. I'm not I'm not into Gatson. Hunter Henry, you can have him.
46:41>> Yeah.
46:41>> Um Likely, you can have him. I I don't want Likely. I'm not feeling that at all.
46:48>> Uh I'm with you on that. I think a lot of the upside actually around Isaiah Likely was like maybe the volume upticks
46:53with you know, Neighbors not being fully healthy, but uh yeah, that's seemingly changed uh with Neighbors probably not going to start the year on PUP. He
47:01should be good to go for September. Uh I'm not feeling it with Likely either. I think the same the same logic has
47:07applied uh that's applied for Likely over the last couple years applies again. You know, he's going to probably be a part-time-ish player with Theo
47:13Johnson. Even though Theo Johnson's not not the world's best athlete, that's for sure.
47:18>> [laughter] >> Terrible.
47:19>> You're you're calling him the robot last year, John, which is hilarious.
47:22>> man. Oh >> Uh but he's he's still going to play.
47:25He's going to play and probably uh block Likely quite a bit. Uh Mark Andrews has been one of my favorite late round sleepers. Uh I've been uh
47:33talking him up a little bit as like a post hype player. Uh with no Isaiah Likely, no Charlie Kolar, he should be a
47:39full-time player once again.
47:41And that's all else >> Go ahead.
47:43>> No, I was just going to say if all else fails, but Mandrews is not a bad backup plan at tight end.
47:48>> No, I've been taking them left and right. And in that 14-teamer, by the way, it's one quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers, one tight
47:55end, and then three flexes.
47:57>> Yep.
47:58>> So, in a league like that, a guy like Mantri, I think is perfect.
48:03Like, not only can you use him as a tight end if you need him, but >> [snorts] >> if things go as well as we think, you're
48:09going to be using him every single damn week with three flexes involved.
48:13>> Oh, 100%. Yeah, in deep in deeper leagues, I typically am like I want to get like a rock-solid quarterback, but
48:22I'm I very much like late-round tight end cuz there's always value. There's always guys off the waiver wire to pick up.
48:28I I like that quite a bit. Rounding out the 10th round here, we've got Michael Wilson finally comes off the board.
48:35Stefon Diggs and K.C. Concepcion as the receivers. Running back completely died, John. I think we were right to just take Jaylen Warren and J.K. Dobbins when we
48:42did because after that, there is not a whole lot on the board.
48:47>> What do you think of >> And Jordan Mason are the only two. Yeah, I was about to say Kenny Gainwell and
48:51Jordan Mason are the only two running backs that have gone.
48:54I can't get there with Mason. I I think he's I think he's better than Aaron Jones in terms of projection. The early
48:59down, you know, stuff should mainly go to Mason, but you know, Aaron Jones is probably going to play more in passing
49:05downs. This has been a very pass-heavy team in the red zone, too.
49:09I just don't see a whole lot of upside with this backfield, personally.
49:12>> I I can squint and see a world where where Jordan Mason is good. Number one, like they've got to control the line of
49:20scrimmage a little bit more and run the ball. Like they they need to establish the run uh quite frankly for their
49:27quarterback, regardless of who it is.
49:28So, that's that.
49:30I don't think that Aaron Jones can hold up much in terms of early down work. So, I think they're kind of going to pivot
49:37over to using Aaron Jones as a change-up runner and the third-down back. Now, De'Von Achane, the rookie could carve out a role because he's got a lot of
49:45juice, but I do think there's a world where if the Viking offense is effective, it will be because Jordan Mason is having success on those early
49:54down runs. The offensive line should be a lot healthier and maybe they score a lot of touchdowns. The one buzzkill would be Kyler because they don't run
50:01the ball well in tight.
50:04And I think Kyler is the antidote to that potentially, his legs. So he might I think he's going to run in for five or six this year at
50:12Mason's expense. But I do I do think Mason will have a successful season if things go well in Minnesota.
50:17>> Yeah, the Kyler is a great point. I mean Kyler certainly could kind of limit the upside here. But last three years John,
50:23Vikings have finished 31st, 17th and then 25th in total running back scored running back scored him in PPR leagues.
50:29There's just not been a whole lot of upside with this team. We'll round out our draft here with Mark Andrews. Travis
50:34Kelce goes right after him. Officer one double taps tight end. Uh John, I'm with you. This isn't my favorite team of all
50:41time. I thought a couple of weeks ago we drafted an absolute hammer team. I think that was from like the 103 or 102 or
50:47something like that. But we got Jamar Chase, Nico Collins as our top receivers. Then we just took a shotgun to the mid-round running backs, Josh
50:54Jacobs, David Montgomery, Khalil Tate, Jaylen Warren and JK Dobbins.
50:58Not a bad team. I like our late round value of Caleb Williams. I'm I'm with you. I'm not like super excited to draft
51:04Caleb Williams but in the ninth round, absolutely sign me up.
51:07>> Yeah, I mean he is still he does fit the profile obviously. The guy was a number one damn pick of the draft. What's this
51:12year four?
51:14>> Year three.
51:15>> Oh, it's only three, right? So but year one felt like two years.
51:20>> True.
51:20>> Yeah, no he he he absolutely improved in all areas last year by the way. Like I could even tell, you know, me with my
51:27body language being around Caleb at the his combine. I could even tell that Ben Johnson had coached him up. He was a lot more
51:35serious, seemed a lot more focused and that kind of did play out on the field for sure.
51:41>> It did and the Bears are still looking for their first 4K passing yard quarterback. Maybe Caleb Williams gets there this season.
51:50Nice little team, John. This has been a fun mock draft. Uh, the 1.01 >> participants. They made it a tough draft.
51:58>> Yeah, our our fantasy points subscribers, you're not lying. They they definitely made it a very tough draft. I got to just the 1.01 this year is just
52:04like an It's just a cheat code. This team is a complete hammer. Gibbs, Hall as his running backs. He comes back, he gets
52:10A.J. Brown, Terrace Marshall, Mick Miller, and Christian Watson. He comes back, gets Kobe Myers. It's like kind of a boring receiver value. Our guy
52:17Charbonnet just completely dominated that draft. He gets my gold medal.
52:22Uh, he gets the gold medal for this draft, I think.
52:24>> Yeah. Yeah, and you're big on Rico.
52:26Makes a lot of sense. That's Mike McCarthy's boy.
52:28>> Absolutely.
52:30>> All right, for John, this has been an excellent 1.04 mock draft over on Sleeper. If you've not already subscribed to Fantasy Points here on the
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