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2026 Fantasy Football AMA with Scott Barrett and Brett Whitefield

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1 hr 19 min
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Jul 25, 2026
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Sat, July 25, 2026
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Amon-Ra St. BrownBijan RobinsonBrian Thomas Jr.Bryce YoungCharlie KolarChris RodriguezColston LovelandD.J. MooreD'Andre SwiftHarold FanninJa'Marr ChaseJalen McMillanJonah ColemanJordan Addison
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Amon-Ra St. Brown

NegativeProjection17:47

Amon-Ra St. Brown was a top-five fantasy wide receiver in his first five weeks (third-most by a rookie WR in first five games since 1989), but then suffered injury while Baker Mayfield also got hurt. Jeff Mueller indicated he needed two weeks off but didn't get it, playing at less than 90% for months after. He's in a Cooper Cup-type role with league-winner upside, but there are serious red flags about his durability and recovery that make him tricky to evaluate.

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Bijan Robinson

NegativeValue11:00

Scott Barrett argues Bijan Robinson's round-one ADP is too high relative to his projected touches. A beat reporter claimed Allgeier would get 14–16 touches per game while Robinson would get 28 touches per game; Barrett sarcastically notes this would require the Falcons to run more plays than any team since the 1920s, implying the projection is unrealistic and Robinson should be valued lower (round seven instead of round one).

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeRole28:00

Brian Thomas Jr. was injured last year but showed elite talent as a rookie and in college; he is expected to be healthy and perform well. However, his role in the Jacksonville offense is uncertain because Parker Washington has become Trevor Lawrence's primary target and is getting fed in the Liam Cohen slot role. BTJ may be more talented but is positioned in a secondary role, similar to Mike Evans relative to Chris Godwin, meaning his ceiling is constrained by Washington's role lock.

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Bryce Young

NegativeRole27:08

Scott Barrett identifies Bryce Young as a significant limiting factor for his receivers' production. Young is described as underperforming at quarterback—"stinks and is short and awful"—which constrains offensive output despite elite yardage market share from receivers. Young's 198 passing yards per game ceiling prevents receivers from reaching their ceiling even with elite efficiency metrics.

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Charlie Kolar

PositiveRole19:19

Charlie Kolar is described as a very underrated, complete every-down tight end who will be the Chargers' primary tight end. Despite being drafted ahead of Isaiah Likely as a pass-catching tight end with Baltimore, he was stuck behind Mark Andrews and suffered an injury in his first training camp that allowed Likely to pass him on the depth chart. However, Kolar was a dominant pass-catcher in college with 2,200 receiving yards and 23 touchdowns in three years at Iowa State, one of the highest catch rates ever for a tight end at the college level. Scott Barrett emphasizes he is not merely a blocking tight end but a high-level receiving threat who will be the Chargers' every-down option. Barrett explicitly states he is 'a big Charlie Kolar guy.'

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Chris Rodriguez

PositiveUsage41:30

Scott Barrett projects Chris Rodriguez to receive 12-14 carries every single week in the Jacksonville backfield under Liam Cohen, who coached him in college where he was a wildcat quarterback and every-down back. Rodriguez ranks first among 67 qualifying running backs since entering the league in yards after contact per attempt, second in success rate and stuff rate, third in EPA per run behind only Devon Aon and Derek Henry, and fifth in touchdown rate. Barrett notes Liam Cohen specifically values yards after contact per attempt and went out of his way to sign Rodriguez. Barrett acknowledges a potential personal bias favoring Rodriguez due to their relationship (Rodriguez came on Barrett's podcast, they became friends, and Rodriguez follows him on Twitter), which may be clouding his objective evaluation of the backfield split.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveProjection3:38

Scott Barrett identifies Colston Loveland as part of a historically great tight end class, highlighting that Loveland had the best yardage market share of any tight end in 50 years. Expected to be the best tight end of the rookie class long term due to more complete skill set; elite ball skills, catch radius, catch ability, and separation ability; dynamic route runner in addition to run-after-catch ability. However, ADP is 3–4 rounds higher than Harold Fannon Jr. despite comparable recent production; last 16 quarters (excluding final games due to injury) produced 20 fantasy points per game versus Fannon's 18.2 with worse quarterback play. Concerns exist where Cole Kmet cannibalized Loveland's playing time and upside in non-outlier games; Chicago's extreme negative game script in final four games inflated his recent production. Scott Barrett identified a prior-year ranking mistake where he ranked Loveland ahead of Tyler Warren; this learning from his self-review process informs his current ranking methodology.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeValue8:51

Scott Barrett criticizes the Buffalo Bills' acquisition of DJ Moore as an overpayment, suggesting the market narrative around the trade is overly positive and ignores the desperation and cost of the move.

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D'Andre Swift

NegativeInjury35:35

DeAndre Swift had a ton of injuries last year, including lower body and hamstring injuries that have plagued him. If healthy, he could return to RB1 status, but injury history raises concern about whether those injuries will continue to pile up.

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Harold Fannin

PositiveBreakout12:30

Scott Barrett rates Harold Fannon Jr. as having the best rookie tape of the 2025 tight end class despite initial athleticism concerns. Barrett describes Fannon as 'the hardest dude in the league to tackle' and 'the scariest player in the open field,' comparing him favorably to George Kittle and Tucker Kraft levels of tackle-breaking ability, noting Fannon may be better than Kraft. Exceptional tape with elite run-after-catch ability and tackle-breaking prowess; yards after catch and forced missed tackles were insanely high with vicious, brutal nature that intimidates defenders. Route running better than expected with crisp footwork and good play speed. The differentiating trait in the current tight end landscape is run-after-catch ability, which Fannon Jr. excels at. Barrett had a day-two grade on Fannon (higher than the league's third-round evaluation) and is bullish on his sophomore-year outlook.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeValue2:14

Scott Barrett uses Jamar Chase versus Puka Nacua as an example of a tight ranking decision in his draft guide methodology, illustrating how he logs tiebreaker reasoning and factors multiple considerations into close ranking calls.

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Jalen McMillan

NegativeProjection23:45

Jaylen McMillan from Tampa Bay is part of a wide receiver ceiling-play cluster alongside Parker Washington, Jordan Addison, and Jaden Higgins. The group is evaluated for PPR dynasty ceiling and reddraft ranking differences, with McMillan positioned as one of the options in this comparison.

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Jonah Coleman

PositiveRole36:32

Jonah Coleman is a very good receiver who caught many passes at Washington, but his 5'8", 225-lb profile is better at finesse components than power components of running back play. JK Dobbins is the lead back running the ball, limiting Coleman's opportunity despite his receiving skills. Coleman is an RB2 with pass-catching relevance in the Broncos backfield.

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Jordan Addison

PositiveValue23:45

Scott Barrett is not high on Jordan Addison at all, especially not in reddraft, because he is behind Justin Jefferson on the target totem pole. Additionally, Addison's quarterback situation is poor whether it is JJ McCarthy or Kyler Murray; Murray has only ever had one wide receiver finish top 24 in fantasy points throughout his entire career, and McCarthy is probably even worse.

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Ladd McConkey

NegativeValue40:16

Brett Whitefield has basically no interest in drafting Lad McConkey despite acknowledging he has a ton of talent. The concern is that if McConkey wins the opportunity to be the Chargers' WR1, he could make Whitefield look silly, but the fade is intentional. Ryan Heath is also fading McConkey this year, similar to how he faded JSN last year.

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Parker Washington

NegativeBreakout23:45

Parker Washington is characterized as a boom-or-bust player with significant upside potential; he was the featured wide receiver in Jacksonville's best games last year and could operate in the Liam Cohen slot role, which has historically been productive. The upside scenario is a mid-range WR1, and given his ADP, the risk-reward profile is compelling because upside wins championships. His connection to Trevor Lawrence—who locks onto his first read and was living with Washington offseason—suggests he will be fed targets as Lawrence's primary option, especially given their success together at season's end when Jacksonville was a top-three offense. Scott Barrett narrows the dynasty ceiling comparison down to T McMillan and Parker Washington as the top two options in a wide receiver ceiling-play cluster alongside Jaylen McMillan, Jordan Addison, and Jaden Higgins.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeValue2:14

Scott Barrett uses Puka Nacua versus Jamar Chase as an example of a tight ranking decision in his draft guide methodology, illustrating how he logs tiebreaker reasoning and factors multiple considerations into close ranking calls.

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RJ Harvey

NegativeRole36:49

Scott Barrett expresses concern that Sean Payton might be moving away from RJ Harvey in the backfield based on his tape from last year, creating uncertainty about his role going forward.

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Roman Wilson

NegativeRole32:00

Roman Wilson dealt with injuries in his first year with Pittsburgh, which impacted his development. Scott Barrett acknowledges this as a scout evaluation miss with the book still being written on the player. Despite the initial miss, Roman Wilson might still have a role with the Steelers this year and could develop further as he recovers from injury.

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Terrance Ferguson

PositiveRole23:03

Terrence Ferguson was used as a deep-threat tight end at Oregon, a rare archetype. The Rams invested significant second-round draft capital in him as a receiving-only tight end. Scott Barrett expects Ferguson to play in all 13-personnel packages (which the Rams ran ~30% of the time) and get all the deep shots from that look, though he acknowledges Sean McVay's unpredictability with new wrinkles. Ferguson's prospect evaluation improved upon closer inspection; he was more productive than Kenyan Sadiq in the same Oregon offense in 2024, which provides a better gauge of his NFL potential than initial prospect grades suggested.

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Travis Hunter

NegativeUsage28:57

Travis Hunter is projected to receive between 20 and 40% of routes in Jacksonville's offense, establishing him as a secondary option in the wide receiver committee alongside Parker Washington, Brian Thomas Jr., and Jakobi Meyers.

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Tyler Allgeier

NegativeUsage11:00

A beat reporter projected Tyler Allgeier would receive 14–16 touches per game, which Scott Barrett uses as an example of flawed projection logic when compared against Bijan Robinson's round-one ADP; Barrett implies the projection undervalues Robinson's likely workload.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveProjection12:00

Scott Barrett identifies Tyler Warren as part of a historically great tight end class, highlighting that Warren had the most yards from scrimmage of any power conference tight end in college football history. Warren was trending toward a very strong rookie season before Daniel Jones's fibula fracture derailed his trajectory. Through the first six to eight weeks, Warren's per-route and per-target numbers were indistinguishable from rookie-season Brock Bowers, and he ranked second in fantasy among tight ends behind only Trey McBride. Warren posted 2.11 yards per route run as a rookie—described as 'alltime great numbers for a rookie'—and is actually better than Brock Bowers on this metric. He has elite run-after-catch ability comparable to Harold Fannon Jr., is a fantastic blocker and every-down player, and is a highly accomplished collegiate tight end. After Jones went down and was replaced by a 47-year-old Philip Rivers, Warren's production collapsed. Scott Barrett views him as a player the market is sleeping on, noting that tight ends historically struggle as rookies but experience a sophomore-year breakout where production jumps from 40% baseline to 110% baseline, creating significant value opportunity.

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Episode Transcript

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0:13School is in session again live with another School of Scott here on the Fantasy Points YouTube. I'm Brett Whitefield, your host, along with my
0:21co-host, Mr. CEO Scott Barrett himself.
0:25Scott, how are you doing today, buddy?
0:27>> I'm doing great. That's a That's a great intro. You've really come a long way since the days of >> Bill. For for those who don't know,
0:34there was like one the first time I feel like it took 15 takes, but uh man, that like literally 10 out of 10 intro. Great
0:42job.
0:42>> Thank you. Are you going to say that every week I do this?
0:45>> I don't know. Are you going to keep crushing these intros? Because that was that was impressive. You brought the energy. I'm fired up. I'm excited.
0:52>> Yeah. Rewind. Two three years ago when we first started film verse analytics. I was I was new to the hosting game.
0:58>> Yeah.
0:58>> But it's been years now, Scott. I have my own show that I do two episodes a week of that I host and do the intro.
1:03It's like riding a bike for me at this point. I don't I don't need the attab boy every time it comes off good. You
1:08know what I mean? Like I'm going to nail this every week. All right.
1:10>> All right. All right. Let's do it.
1:12>> All right. Cool. So, we're doing another AMA. Ask us anything. Um Scott, a lot of these questions we got pre-show are are
1:19fantasy relevant. So, I'm probably going to lean on you heavily for some of these, but I obviously will still contribute my film takes and and stuff
1:26like that. So, but we wanted to kick this off with a little bit of a rant on beatw writers. I don't know if you want
1:32to call it that, so to speak, but Scott, what's on your mind about beat writers?
1:36This is an itch you need to scratch, apparently. So, what is it? What's going on?
1:39>> Yeah, I I was I've been thinking about this. And so I think my edge over everyone else is in terms of my rankings
1:48and and like their historical accuracy and whatnot is really just like a simple process thing. It's, you know, as I'm doing my rankings, which I'm working on
1:57right now, probably 99% done. I already shared it with a few subscribers who have their drafts before my draft guide comes out August 3rd. But as I'm working
2:07through my rankings, it's just like I log everything. You know, I'm good with data. So like I need everything to be a
2:12data point that I could look back to and measure. And so like I'm okay Jamar Chase versus Puka Nua, this feels really
2:21tight for me. Okay, the tiebreaker's this. Uh I'm also factoring in this and this. And so I'm logging all of this and
2:30then the draft guide comes out, the season happens, the season ends, it's January, it's February and I go through what I call my self flagagillation
2:41session where it's for like two weeks, three weeks I really beat myself up. I really rub my nose in my own mistakes. I
2:51look back at the draft guide and it's like here's what you got wrong. How can you learn from this? And I'll like for
2:59those you I think you know is like January, February like I'm in an awful mood. I'm not fun to be around. I'm like
3:05literally depressed, you know, because like you know I I take this too seriously. But um actually this past year was probably like the best it's
3:13ever been. I usually very hard on myself. This time I was like actually no. Like you know good process, bad results here. Good process, mediocre
3:22results here. Uh, I was actually pretty pleased with with uh, you know, looking back over the draft guide. [snorts] But anyway, yeah. And so as I'm doing that,
3:30I look at, you know, okay, why did I make this decision? Uh, because this ended up not being right. You know, I
3:38should have went Tyler Warren over Coloulston Lovelin or something like that. And so I'll leave myself notes in January, February that I'll circle back
3:47on as I'm doing my rankings in July like, "Hey, don't forget this." or hey, you know, you went a little too deep
3:53into the weeds on the play caller stuff.
3:55You know, pump the brakes a little bit.
3:57And so, a note I had this past year, it's also a note I had the year before that, and I think two years before that
4:03as well, is it's like momento. It's like a tattoo sprawled on my wrist. It's ignore the beatwriters. The beat writers are freaking worthless. And like I know
4:14this sounds like peak hubris where it's like really you think you know more than the guy whose job it is to cover the
4:20team. Uh I wouldn't be saying this if I didn't just like write this to myself multiple years in a row that like I my
4:27rankings would have been better off if I just kind of ignored the beat writers.
4:31And I really think this is the case Brett. I think like the these guys are awful when it comes to projecting
4:38playing time. They have absolutely no I mean the exception is like an Aaron Wilson, a Dan Dugen.
4:44>> Those guys are awesome, but like I feel like 97% of beats are are kind of worthless.
4:50>> Scott, >> worse than worthless.
4:52>> How long have I been telling you this?
4:53>> I know. [laughter] I don't know. That's why I wanted to bring it up is because you've been all over this. Yeah.
4:59>> Yeah. I It's It's tough. So, we live in this content driven culture where like if you're a full-time job is to to be a
5:08beatw writer for a team, you have to churn that machine no matter what's going on at practice, right? And we know
5:14positivity sells more than negativity.
5:17>> Unless you're on sports talk radio, it's a totally different animal. But for beat writers, it's like, okay, cool. They go
5:22sit down and watch practice. They see a a fourth string guy or a fourth receiver look good. They're going to write a
5:27story about it. And the problem is is like you just pointed out, their expertise isn't winning fantasy leagues.
5:33Their expertise isn't projecting playing time or even snaps or opportunity. It's just like, hey, this is a fun story. I'm going to go talk to the player and I'm
5:41going to write about it. And then we have all these aggregators that then take that information and they pump it up for the hype train because we live in
5:48this constant content machine that that constantly has to get churned. Has to be new information every day. There has to be little blurbs about every player.
5:57when you go on sleeper.com and you click on a player's name, we got to have our, you know, four most recent blurbs
6:02written about them and that like that's the world we live in. And so for most teams, their beat writers, they're they're really not football experts at
6:10all. They're journalist majors who ended up covering the NFL. There are exceptions, of course. I think of like the Detroit Lions have like a Dave
6:16Berquette and a Justin Rogers and a Jeremy Ryman. You know, Justin Rogers knows the game of football, but he also stays in his lane. He's not trying to
6:24win you fantasy leagues and he's uh Dave Briquette doesn't really he's not an X's in those guys so he doesn't try to be
6:30one and I think there are good beat writers out there that kind of just stay in their lane. They're they're really
6:35well established at what they do but for the most part a lot of these guys are just playing to the constant content
6:41machine that we're in. And so you really just can fade the noise. It's just a lot of noise. It's a lot of fluff. I think
6:48my film study, your analytic stuff, that's way more predictive than what exew writer says from watching a practice. By the way, they're not even
6:55allowed to watch most practices. Do does everyone know that?
6:58>> Yes.
6:59>> So, they >> It's a new thing, right? A rule change in the last year or two.
7:03>> Yeah. They for during the season stuff especially, they get to watch the first 15 minutes of practice >> and that's it.
7:09>> And that's it.
7:10>> Wow.
7:10>> So, whatever you're taking away from that is completely diminished.
7:15>> Exactly. It's like, hey, we're featuring Taesm Hill this week. Let's do it after the first 15 minutes so this doesn't
7:21leak, >> right? And then for training camp, so like for teams that have new coaches and new coordinators and new personnel, like
7:28the first few weeks of training camp is install. They're literally installing base looks. And just because a team puts, here's a classic one. Every year
7:36there's we get reports of teams using two running back sets. Oh, Jir Gibbs and David Montgomery were on the field together for like the first 30 minutes
7:43of practice. Yeah, it's just they're installing a package. We have no idea how much that package will get used, right? It's like, hey, we want to have
7:50this package available to us in the case in the event we want to use it. We've never practiced this package before. So,
7:56for the first 30 minutes of practice, we're going to run 10 plays out of this package. We have no clue how often
8:01they're going to use that package. And it's just and the beatw writers especially don't know. So, yeah, I there's a lot like so much beat writer
8:10stuff gets pumped up. And it's not to slam them. I think they have a job. they have to do and I respect it, but like
8:16the fantasy crowd just continues to elevate what these guys say like it's gospel and a lot of times it's just completely worthless.
8:22>> That's exactly right. And School of Scot listeners have heard me reference this quote a million times. Charlie Munger, show me the incentive, I'll show you the
8:30outcome. And so it's very much like they write what their readers want to hear, right? Like if you're a you're a Saints
8:38fan, you don't want to say like, "Hey, actually I think this is like just a 500 ball club. You know, they're going to
8:44win 50% of their games." Um, and so like or like Buffalo Bills, you don't want to hear like, "Hey, this was a desperation
8:51move. Brandon Bean's an idiot. They overpaid on DJ Moore, who's probably watched." It's, "Hey, the Bills finally have their Stfan Diggs again and they're
9:00gonna smash." And so, like, it's always this positive bent. And these guys are basically like in my mind like glorified fan bloggers. Like I don't want to throw
9:11anyone under the bus, but John Shipley is like one of the biggest like fantasy heroes. Like everyone in the fantasy community loves. Shipley who does the
9:20Jaguars beat. We got into it a number of years ago. It was Doug Peterson's last year. He blocked me. we got into like
9:27this this debate where like I was tweeting negatively about Trevor Lawrence and you know he just came at me like a fan you know and and I have it on
9:36good authority that like hey I was dead right Trevor Lawrence at that time at the end of uh the Doug Peterson tenure
9:43was like the slimmest sea hair away from getting benched and you know according to you know Shibly it was oh it's none
9:50of it's his fault it's all the receivers it's blah blah blah um and like he's this guy's going viral. I'm seeing like
9:5750 roto world blurbs. Uh, hey, Ball Knowledge Fantasy Points AI. We have a news feed. You're going to see a bunch
10:05of Shipley reports there. If you if you go to the balln knowledge AI um Zayn Danani who's doing an amazing job with
10:12you know covering all the the important news one of our guys a ton of you know shiply reports but it's like you read
10:20what he's saying and it's like hey I don't have any sources here but this is just my opinion based off of last year
10:27is that Parker Washington's going to lead the league in lead the team in targets. Parker Washington's going to get a new contract this off season. It's
10:35like, yeah, that's like exactly what I think. And are we really just like moving off like going off of the same
10:40information, which was just, hey, he looked awesome in the last four weeks last year, you know, he's he's better than his round six rookie contract. And
10:49yeah, it's it just like you're taking like someone's opinion, which like is really almost no different than like Chris Wex doing projections or that's
10:58the other part of it. Like I don't know if you remember two years ago so much was made of Tyler Algier versus Bjan
11:05Robinson where some beat was like you know I think Tyler Alier Alier is going to get 14 to 16 touches per game
11:13like like that oh okay so Bejian Robinson should actually be going in round seven instead of round one. I like replied to him I'm like I'm like so how
11:21many do you think Bejian's going to get?
11:22He's like I don't know 28 touches per game. It's like, oh, okay. So, you think the Falcons are going to run more than
11:28any team since the 1920s, >> right?
11:31>> Um, and like the they're just like the a mental block when it comes to projections. Um, and so like yeah, there
11:40it requires a lot of like tea leaf re a lot of like reading between the lines and and even then it's just like again I
11:47think we'd be better off just kind of ignoring 95% of this.
11:51>> Yeah, spot on. Um, should we get into some of these questions now, Scott?
11:55>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it.
11:56>> Oh, you wanted to talk best rookie tight ends from last year.
12:00>> Uh, yeah. I mean, it's just Yeah. As I was working through my rankings, um, I I just wanted to hear if you thought
12:05anything differently than what I sort of expected you to think. Tell me >> how. So, I said coming out, last year's
12:15tight end class was historically great.
12:18It was an all-time great tight end class. You had Tyler Warren who had the most yards from scrimmage of any power
12:28conference tight end in college football history. You had Harold Fannon Jr. with the most receiving yards of any FBS tight end in college football history.
12:38You had Colston Lovelin with the best yardage market share of any tight end in 50 years. you had a Ronda Gatston
12:45who there was some questions of whether he's a receiver or tight end, but >> um historically great age adjusted yards per team pass attempt in at least one of
12:55his seasons. And so those four guys I really kind of circled as like these guys are special and >> all of them to varying degrees had
13:06really impressive rookie seasons. And so I would like to know where you sit on those four tight ends and how bullish
13:16you are on each of them heading into their sophomore years.
13:19Oh, that's such a good question because I like you, they all were in incredibly impressive in different ways.
13:26>> Yeah.
13:27>> I think the best rookie tape period for me was probably Harold Fannon Jr.
13:31>> Whoa. Did not expect that.
13:34>> Yeah.
13:34>> Wow.
13:35>> Here's that high on him, right?
13:38>> Well, I had massive questions about athleticism, man.
13:40>> Yeah.
13:41>> And just the the translatability of what he was asked to do in college to the pro game. I mean, I I still had a day two
13:46grade on him. I I was higher on him than the league was. What he go He ended up going third round.
13:52>> Yeah, I think so.
13:53>> Yeah, I think I still had a two on him, but um right right in line really with what the NFL thought, but man, this guy
14:00is the hardest dude in the league to tackle.
14:03>> There's there's not a >> the hardest dude in the league to I mean, >> there's not a scarier player in the open
14:08field to come across than Harold Fannon Jr.
14:11>> George KD levels. He's Tucker Craft levels. vintage George KD and probably better than Tucker Craft.
14:18>> Wow.
14:18>> The the tape is insane. I mean, the the data speaks for itself. The yards after catch, the force missed tackles were
14:23insanely high. But you actually watch the nature of those force missed tackles, they're vicious. They're brutal. There's no corner in the league
14:31that's going to want to come up and tackle that dude. They are scared of that man. Safeties are scared of that
14:36man. So, like, yeah, I I think for for the way they used him Oh, also the route running was better than I thought it was
14:43going to be, Scott. Like, I I thought, you know, the crisp crispiness getting in and out of his brakes was was far
14:50beyond what I thought he was capable of considering the anatomical limitations I thought he had. Um, and I thought the play speed was perfectly fine. You know,
14:57I was worried about the athleticism and the the overall juice, but honestly, the play speed looked good. I thought he looked fast. He looked athletic and one
15:05of the hardest dudes to tackle in the league. And and that's the in the too high era we're living in, Scott. That's
15:10the trait you really want for these tight ends is that run after catch ability. Um that's why Tucker Craft is so dominant. That's why George KD that's
15:17how he carved out a role early in his career. And KD's become a fantastic route runner and separator as well. And
15:23the scheme goes a long way for him too.
15:24But man, that that run after catch ability that really is the differentiating mark right now for tight ends breaking out. And yeah, I think
15:31Fannon Jr. had the best tape as a rookie. That said, I think Coulson Loveland's going to be the best of the
15:36bunch long term.
15:37>> I think he's got a more complete skill set. I think he's good after the catch, but he's also a dynamic route runner.
15:42>> Insane ball skills, catch radius, you know, catch ability, stuff like that, separation ability.
15:47>> Hey, hold on one second. So, I I get a graphic on screen and this is probably my worst take according to my followers.
15:56Certainly according to Ryan Heath. He Ryan hates this take, but it's just like looking at ADP, Coloulston Lovelin goes three rounds earlier than Harold Fannon
16:06and some formats, four rounds earlier.
16:08And it's just like, you know, I'm I'm not saying take Fannon over Lovelin. I'm I'm just saying like I like I like
16:15logical consistencies and this seems, you know, inconsistent is everyone's like Coulson Lovelin's last four games.
16:22Coulson Love's last four games. I'm like, well, if you just look at last four games, really last 16 quarters, cuz they both left their final games with an
16:31injury. Last 16 quarters versus last 16 quarters. Fan in with like much worse quarterback play, everything. 18.2 fantasy points per game to Lovelin's 20
16:41fantasy. And so it's just like, hey, you know who was also freaking sick in his last four games? It was Harold Fannon,
16:47who you could get at a three or four round discount. And like Loveland, there's some concerns there where, you know, we've talked about it where over
16:56those four games that everyone's pointing at is Chicago was outlierishly pass heavy with extreme negative game script. Um, but all other games you
17:07really saw like uh Cole KT cannibalizing Lovelin's playing time and upside. And so, yeah, it's just it's just kind of weird how everyone's in love with with
17:18Loveland and Fannon's like, "Ah, he's a good backup plan if I miss out on him."
17:22But you're saying, "Hey, the tape was incredible. This is like a special talent for a guy who again had the best
17:31tight end season in FBS history. Uh, and so I like this. This this feels interesting and spicy to me." Well, so
17:39for fantasy, the the question you have to answer is like what offense is more sustainable for that guy to continue breaking out?
17:46>> Oh, I mean, yeah.
17:47>> Yeah. The Bears seem to have a better ecosystem, but the, you know, quarterback, play caller, stuff like that, >> but the Browns are also building from
17:56scratch. So, like maybe Harold Fannon Jr. is already the guy there. I don't know.
18:01>> Well, if you listen to the GM, that's basically what he's saying is like, yeah, we want to we want to build the
18:06ship around Fannon. uh you know, our young guys, we have a lot of belief in him, blah blah. And hey, they got rid of
18:11David and Jooku. Um but yeah, I mean certainly the the Ben Johnson offense uh that doesn't have DJ Moore in it or
18:20Media Zakias anymore is is more exciting, but again there's like a four round discount, so you you kind of have to
18:25>> right >> bake that in. Um what about Tyler Warren? What about Aronda Gatston? What about Terren Ferguson? What about those
18:33guys?
18:35Well, let's hit Aronda first because he's kind of a an odd one. Yeah, is a big power slot receiver and that's kind
18:42of the way the Chargers use him and and the snap share route share reflects that where like when they were in obvious
18:48rundowns they just couldn't play him.
18:50He's not good enough in the run game and they really kind of refused to live in 12 personnel last year and I don't
18:55really know why. They wouldn't play Gatsson and Dley together or Gatson and their other tight ends together. It was super strange. So, he was really
19:03dependent on game script. He was really dependent on them, you know, needing to throw the ball, which happened plenty.
19:10Let's let's, you know, not be shy about that. But this offseason is troubling for Gatson because they bring in Charlie Kolar, who I think is a very underrated
19:19player. I think he's a really good complete every down type tight end. And then they also bring in David and Jooku
19:25as a kind of a yak threat. So, they they can mix up these personnel groupings.
19:29They're also going to use a fullback in this offense a little bit more. It's like I don't know how much more
19:34Gatsson's going to play. So, we may have already seen the ceiling for fantasy for Gatsson that was like week 10 through
19:40week 14 or something like that. That stretch that he had where the offense is kind of running through him. That may
19:44have been the peak for him for for now anyways. And so, also talk about Mike McDaniel and the fact that he's never
19:50valued the tight end position yet he's got a tight end room that's rich. I don't know. It's a really strange kind
19:55of thing to figure out here. So, I'm a little out on Gadson right now. I think Kolar is going to be their every down
20:00tight end and then you're going to see Gatsson have to find those spots again like he did last year where he might be
20:05a pass down only player or a big slot type and and can't really get, you know, the the workload we need for him to be
20:11consistently fantasy relevant. Um, as far as Warren goes, I mean, Warren has the run after catch gene as well that Harold Fannon does. He's a monster. Um,
20:20you he's viable in the run game as well.
20:22He's a fantastic blocker, every down player, and he was trending towards having a really good rookie season as well, right? And then Daniel Jones goes
20:29down and the whole thing kind of falls apart. Um, where would his season have ranked historically though if if the whole offense kind of stayed on the
20:37course it was on?
20:38>> Yeah, I had a great graphic actually.
20:40So, so up until uh Daniel Jones fractured his fibula, they had to have a custom 3D printed brace
20:49that's never existed before uh for him to play the next two weeks where he really struggled and then he missed a
20:56bunch of time. But up until that initial injury, I think it's like the first six or seven or eight weeks, uh he his
21:03numbers on a per route per target basis were indistinguishable from rookie season Brock Bowers. So, he looked incredible. He was the tight end too in
21:12fantasy um behind only Trey McBride. And then he's he's catching passes from a 47year-old literal grandfather Philip
21:21Rivers. Um and so yeah, he's another player I think we're sleeping on, another incredibly productive, highly accomplished collegiate tight end. And
21:31so again, yeah, I think this is a really special tight end class. And one thing we know about tight ends is historically
21:37like they they struggle as rookies and then you have that sophomore year breakout where if you plot it um you know age curves, career curves, it's
21:46it's like rookie season you're 40% baseline, sophomore season you're like 110% baseline and it's, you know, this amazing year where there's a ton of
21:56value. Um so yeah.
21:59>> Yeah. I want to hit uh Mark Lambert's comment here. He said Colar is a blocking tight end. I don't get this
22:05taking away from Gatson. I don't know who told you Kar is a blocking tight end. That's just not true. He was a
22:09dominant passcatching tight end in college. He was drafted ahead of Isaiah likely as a passcatching tight end with the Baltimore Ravens and and suffered an
22:17injury his first year of training camp and then likely kind of passed him on the depth chart and he was stuck behind,
22:23you know, very good tight end Mark Andrews and a and a very viable tight end too. and and Isaiah likely. I think
22:29Colar is a good blocking tight end for sure, but he was a dominant pass catcher. Producer Trey knows all about this. This is a clone to the bone right
22:36here in and Charlie Kolar. So, I I think people are absolutely sleeping on I think he had he had like 2,200 receiving
22:43yards and 23 touchdowns in three years at Iowa State. Like he's like an absolute dog as a rece one of the
22:49highest um catch rates ever for a tight end as well at the college rank. So, I I'm a big Charlie Colar guy. I don't
22:56think he's a quote unquote blocking tight end.
23:00>> Yeah, there's that there's that Brock Bowers versus Tyler Warren comparison.
23:04Yeah, look at that. 2.11 yards per route run. Alltime great numbers for a rookie and Warm is actually better than that.
23:11La last tight end we'll get to.
23:13>> Uh do you have any leans on Terrence Ferguson? The kind of unique way he was used as like a deep threat tight end. Do
23:20you have haven't really seen that for a long time? Greg Olsen was sort of like that, like a a more a rare deep threat
23:27for a tight end. But, uh, you have Beats, again, we we're talking about how we're kind of throwing a lot of shade at
23:33Beats, but they're saying, uh, he could be the Rams wide receiver three this year, Terren Ferguson.
23:39>> I mean, they they invested a lot of draft capital into a receiving only type tight end. I feel like having a plan for
23:46him to get on the field would be good, but uh I don't know, man. And then they went and drafted Max Cla in a very
23:51similar slot, right? A second round pick. So yeah, I mean Ferguson has juice for days. That's what he was awesome at
23:57at Oregon. I think for me it's like Shawn McVey is so unpredictable with what the new wrinkle he's going to add,
24:05right? So 13 personnel was the wrinkle last year. I think they were like 30% 13 personnel. It's like yeah, Ferguson's going to play in every one of those and
24:14get all the deep shots out of that look.
24:16Sure. Yeah, he could be he could be their wide receiver three. I'm not really counting on it, though. So, >> I'm I'm looking at uh Terren Ferguson's
24:24head shot. He looks like uh Scott Farcus from A Christmas Story.
24:30But, uh but yeah, I uh also he like I didn't really love him as a prospect coming out, but I think, you know, he's
24:36kind of aged a little bit more gracefully because, you know, you look at Kenyan Sadi's numbers, he was actually more productive than Kenyan
24:43Sadik in the same offense back in 2024.
24:46They also have um another tight end on the team who's supposed to go round one next year.
24:51>> He'll be a top 20 pick. Yeah.
24:53>> Yeah. So, uh yeah, that's that kind of helps me uh get a better gauge on these sophomore tight ends, which honestly
25:01like might be one of the, you know, most important questions of the year. Um >> certainly a lot of excitement surrounding uh a number of these names.
25:10Why don't you hit us with some of the the fan questions?
25:13>> Yeah, let's go. Let's go one from Pops.
25:15Papa Dubs, Greg Whitefield, my dad.
25:17>> Shut up.
25:18>> So, who has a higher PPR dynasty ceiling? And does your rank differ for this year? I'm assuming by this year he
25:23means reddraft, >> Jaylen McMillan from Tampa Bay, Parker Washington, Jordan Addison, or Jaden Higgins? This is a fun cluster to talk
25:30about, right? I think Graham and I did our wide receiver rankings and Addison was outside the top 50. We got a lot of
25:35push back about that, but this uh this group in general has a lot I feel like they're all ceiling plays. Scott, what
25:42do you think here?
25:44Um, so I don't I don't know that I agree. So we could start with Jaden Higgins, who you're very high on.
25:50>> Yeah, >> I'm a little worried Tankell might not be dead. Tank might still be alive and might might be cutting into uh Jaden
25:59Higgins breakout potential, but but I have said multiple times I'm going to be higher on Higgins than Consensus, which is really just deferring to your uh X's
26:08and O's brilliance, your your film game.
26:11Jordan Addison I'm not high on at all, especially not in reddraft because, you know, he's he's behind Justin Jefferson on the target totem pole. And then
26:20whether it's JJ McCarthy or Kyler Murray, it's it's not really a good setup. You know, Kyler Murray's only ever had one wide receiver finish top 24
26:29in fantasy points throughout his entire career. JJ McCarthy probably even worse than that. And so it's really down to T McMillan and Parker Washington for me.
26:40Who has the higher dynasty ceiling?
26:42>> Wait, was that T McMillan? That was Jaylen McMillan, I thought.
26:46>> Oh, >> Tampa Bay receiver. Ted's too obviously better than those guys.
26:50>> No, no. I feel like T Jaylen McMillan's too obviously like below everyone else.
26:55>> Dad, if you're watching, please clarify what McMillan you mean. Yeah, we got to go firstname basis here, you know? So,
27:01so I'll say if it's T McMillan, I think is like legitimately like a fringe top 12 wide receiver in the league already.
27:08>> Yeah.
27:08>> Um it's just Young, >> he plays with Bryce Young who stinks and is short and [laughter] he's awful. Uh and so like that's what's
27:17holding him back. We're like if he went down and like dude, our guy King Hayes, you know, was was quarterback, like I'd
27:24legitimately be bullish or Andy Dalton if if Dalton's still there. I don't even know if he is. um way more bullish. But
27:31yeah, it's just with Bryce Young that's like oh 198 passing yards even if he has this elite yardage market share which he
27:38did uh you know that's not going to get it done and uh you know really good rookie season despite battling with a
27:45ton of injuries that people are kind of losing sight on. It's really that quarterback situation which luckily for Dynasty is like they they can't have
27:53Bryce Young starting next year. Right.
27:55Right. There there's no way they give him a contract extension. Right. like it's that bad.
28:00>> And then with Parker Washington, like I feel like I talk about Parker Washington every episode. He is one of the most,
28:06you know, boomer bust players in drafts right now where there's like a very real scenario where I see him busting. It's,
28:15hey, BTJ was just hurt last year. Let's not lose sight of what he did as a rookie, what he did in college. He was
28:22just hurt last year and like the ass really backs that up and now he's going to be healthy. He's gonna ball out. He's
28:28the wide receiver one. Oh, and everyone else, it's it's a gross wide receiver committee. Jacobe Meyers has had a 25% target share every year of his career.
28:37Travis Hunter is going to get somewhere between 20 and 40% of the routes. And so, it just Parker Washington also coming off the field in heavy personnel
28:45is a wasted pick. That's the downside.
28:49upside is dude balled the f out last year was the featured wide receiver one and those were all of Jacksonville's best games by far and so maybe they
28:59should just keep featuring him uh in the Liam Cohen slot role which has been historically productive I really see yeah there's a chance he's a wasted pick
29:08there's a chance he's like legitimately a fantasy wide receiver one like a mid-range wide receiver one I could really easily see that being the case
29:16and when you look at his ADP and Factor in upside wins championships.
29:20Factor in that upside matters more than downside is detrimental. He's an amazing pick. Like even if he busts the f out.
29:29>> If he, you know, week four you're dropping him from your rosters, I'm still going to be like, I don't care.
29:35That was a great pick. You know, risk versus reward, upside wins championships, even if it doesn't work out. Good process regardless of the
29:44results. You didn't even mention Liam Cohen slot archetype either.
29:49>> I did. I did. Like that's that's a key part is like looking back, dude. That it's so crucial to me. Chris Godwin with
29:56Liam Cohen ranked behind only Jamar Chase and fantasy points per game. He was the overall wide receiver, too. And that's like bearing the lead. The lead
30:05to me is Mike Evans was nine fantasy points per game less. Mike Evans.
30:11>> That's crazy, bro. Right. So Mike Evans is like an alltime alpha and Chris Godwin in the Liam Cohen slot role turn
30:19him into a beta. So it's like the BTJ argument I think is really compelling.
30:23But it's like hey maybe he's just in the Mike Evans role and this Chris Godwin Parker Washington role is just way more
30:29valuable. And it's also it's also let's not lose sight of Trevor Lawrence and his issues over the years is what have
30:36we always said? He locks on to his first read. He needs a wide receiver who can separate really quickly and that seems
30:43way more Parker Washington than or deep threat BTJ.
30:48>> Yeah, for me the answer is Parker Washington as well because you know everything you mentioned plus I think about like this Trevor Lawrence breakout
30:54we've praised so openly.
30:56>> It came in conjunction with this growth with Parker Washington. So they're going to want to duplicate that success. Also, they're like living together this
31:03offseason. Like they clearly have a thing and when quarterbacks have like think about Matthew Stafford that like twinkly gets in his eye with his wide
31:11receiver one. Yeah. It's like you're just getting fed when you become that guy.
31:15>> BTJ might be a more talented player.
31:17Doesn't matter. Washington's getting fed because that is Trevor Lawrence's dude now. So >> that's that's when they were at their best last year. And that's crucial
31:25because like if they're just a middle of the pack team like Vegas thinks they're 16th in scoring this year. If Vegas is
31:31right, then then like, yeah, whatever.
31:34All these guys are just mid as as f, right? And but if they are who they were at the tail end of last season, which
31:41was a top three offense, then there's a ton of upside. And who were they featuring at that point in time? That
31:48was Parker Washington.
31:49>> Nice. I want to move on, but I want to address this real quick before we get to another question. Not criticism. you
31:56guys crush and have un >> unenviable >> enviable expectation of being always right. How do you adjust scout process with players like Roman Wilson, Damian?
32:03That's definitely pointed at me because those are guys I liked. Um >> I didn't like >> I don't adjust anything. Honestly, it's
32:10it sounds sounds it sounds ego. I mean, I I evaluate why did I miss, >> you know? Also, the book's not written
32:17on either of those guys. Probably more so written on Damen Martinez, but Roman still might have a role this year with
32:22Pittsburgh and and he could develop a little I know he dealt with injuries his his first year and that kind of set him
32:27back, but I don't I really don't adjust much of anything. I look for is there a a glaring reason why I missed and maybe
32:34I make an adjustment, but ultimately like I trust my own process because my hit rate has allowed me to. You know, I
32:41I still hit at a higher rate at pretty much every position than uh than the NFL does. And so like, yeah, I'm going to be
32:49wrong. It's I'm fully aware I'm going to be wrong. I've been wrong plenty of times and I'll be wrong more, but I'm
32:53also right a lot. And so, um, yeah, man.
32:58>> Yeah. I I'll say your hit rate is uncanny. Like I I look at, you know, people across the industry, their
33:04results, and yeah, they they don't come close to you. I will say though, I was a big Roman Wilson hater, and your track
33:10record on prospects is better than mine, better than anyone. But if you take the film versus analytics consensus where like if I really hate someone and you
33:19really like him, you just cross them off, that's that's the best hit rate there is, I think.
33:24>> Oh, yeah. Good [clears throat] call.
33:25Hey, we got a super chat here. We got a hit.
33:27>> Oh, >> M Love 107 with a $10 super chat. Thank you so much for that, man. Uh 12 team auction league halfpoint PPR Flex 10.
33:37What do you think of going all in and spending twothirds or more of budget on Bejian and Gibbs? We've gotten this
33:42question so many times. Or would you rather pair one of them with elite wide receiver Chaser Puka? I think we've answered this the same way every time.
33:48Just Yeah, if you can get Bjan and Gibbs, it's it's pretty fun. Just do it.
33:53>> Yeah, man. Um [laughter] that's that's wild. Uh I I would not pair with Chase or Puka. I would really place a premium on Bejon andor Gibbs. I
34:05I feel like grabbing both might put you at a disadvantage where you're you're too weak on depth and it does more harm
34:12than good.
34:13>> Oh, because it's 10 team. Is that why?
34:15No, it's 12 team.
34:15>> No, 12 team. Well, just Yeah. So, depth matters more in 12 team than 10 10 team.
34:21So, I don't know that I'd go after both, but but certainly one of those guys. And maybe don't pair with with Chase or
34:27Puka. I I don't really know though. I'll be honest. I'm more of a a snake guy. um you know, people who read the draft
34:33guide, tons of auction players who've had a ton of success, but this this question actually isn't in my wheelhouse. So, >> right on. All right, let's uh let's hit
34:42another one from the tweets from script.
34:46What's a backfield that isn't perceived as murky, but has an RB2 that can take over the role by the end of the season?
34:55There it is. Uh, I have a I want to hear your thoughts, Scott, but I have a super hot take for
35:03this after.
35:04>> Oh, boy. I So, I actually didn't put enough thought into this. Um, I mean, Kairen Williams, obviously, your boy Blake Cororm was incredibly efficient
35:15last year.
35:16>> Bears.
35:17>> Yeah, >> there's >> that was going to be my hot take. So, you kind of you kind of nerfed me on
35:22that one, but >> So, I don't think that's a hot take. I think a lot of people have that take. I
35:26was going to say the Bears backfield where it's like >> DeAndre Swift had a ton of injuries last year. So maybe he's just like goes back
35:34to being the RB1 healthy this year or like I don't know those those injuries, lower body injuries, hamstring injuries that have plagued him just keep piling
35:43up and like Kyle Manangi was you know what a round seven pick and just like Isaiah Pacheco out of Ruckers slept on
35:50but like grading on a curve that he's a rookie round seven pick was like really impressive last year and so maybe
35:58>> dude runs hard. Yeah, I think they like the the tandem, but um you know, maybe that's one people are sleeping on.
36:06>> Manungai like totally respect what he did as a seventh round rookie. He just doesn't have a diversified enough skill set to like warrant being a bellcow.
36:14>> So I I think Swift is probably the RB1.
36:17>> Yeah.
36:17>> But like can it get close to a 50/50?
36:20Absolutely. It kind of already was. So >> I I was trying to come up with a spicy one. The chalk ones are are for sure. Uh
36:27Blake Cororum. I got a spicy one.
36:29>> And Jonathan Brooks. Let's hear it.
36:32>> Broncos. Jonah Coleman.
36:34>> Oh, okay. I So, I don't know that this one's all that impactful for fantasy either, just because I feel like
36:40>> RJ Harvey ces catches passes.
36:44>> JK Dobbins is the lead back running the ball.
36:48>> Do Exactly.
36:49>> So, he's until he gets her. But here's the thing. Coleman is a very good receiver.
36:54>> That was That's one of the things I hated about his profile. It's like you're 5'8 225 and you're better at like
36:59the finesse components of playing running back than you are the power components. And so, but he's a really good receiver. He caught a million
37:06passes at Washington. So, I I don't know, man. And I just like there was enough on R.J. Harvey's tape last year
37:12to scare me a little bit into thinking Payton might be off of him. So, just saying I did say it was a hot take. I didn't
37:21say it was like a guaranteed slam dunk, but like >> he he wants to know he wants to know some unexpected ones, right? A backfield
37:27that isn't perceived as murky.
37:28>> Well, I think >> yeah, >> I think Coleman could absolutely be a factor there.
37:32>> Okay, >> so um all right, let's do another one from the only Hanch who's the one player non-QB you're not drafting, but you're
37:43afraid he might come back to bite you.
37:48>> Um I don't know. I I needed to give this one more thought than I did. Uh I will say like I I mentioned this multiple
37:54times on multiple podcasts. I think Ama Igbuka is the trickiest player to get right. And maybe it's just as simple as
38:02hey, he he was a top five fantasy wide receiver his first five weeks. It was the third most by a wide rookie wide
38:10receiver first five games since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Um and then he got injured and Baker got injured. And so if
38:18you want to just write off week six on where the GPS tracking says, yeah, he was seriously dealing with something.
38:25Jeff Mueller, best injury expert in the game, was like, "Yeah, they needed to give him two weeks off." And because they didn't, he was just like playing at
38:34less than 90% for the next however many months. Um, and yeah, and so if you just write that off and it's like, hey, no,
38:42Mike Evans, Baker Mayfield's a baller and a dog. Uh, could he be a league winner? He's in the Zack Robinson Cooper
38:49Cup role, etc., etc. Uh, I see I see some really serious red flags as well.
38:56Um, and you know, Jeff Mueller, who I just mentioned, is actually really bullish on Chris Godwin and whatnot, but yeah, like I said, he's one I've really
39:05struggled with, and I've struggled because I think it matters a lot. Like I you the the the upside and the downside
39:12here. I think he's an important player I really want to get right and so so I've struggled with him. What what what about
39:19you Brett? Do you have an answer to this? [gasps] >> I don't you know I'm I'm like scanning the the the ADP right now to find one.
39:29>> I think maybe the guy I'm it's probably Lad Mani for me.
39:33>> Oh, okay.
39:34>> I I have basically no interest in drafting him. I'm I'm QJ.
39:38>> If I'm drafting one of them, it's QJ.
39:39And then it's like, but I do know that Lad's super talented. Like Lad has a ton of talent and it's like if he wins the
39:48opportunity to be their wide receiver one. Yeah. He's going to make me look silly. So I'm a little scared about that
39:53one.
39:54>> Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Heath's JSN this year and and you and I are both kind of >> fading lads. So that's scary for sure.
40:01>> Yeah.
40:02All right, let's move on. Uh tweet from King to Icon. Oh, he's already Look, producer Troy had it up before I even
40:10queued him verbally. Bashel Tutin vers Trayvon Henderson. Who has more league winning upside?
40:17>> This is a more loaded question I think people realize.
40:23>> Can I just say something? Can we just we just like ignore this question and have a conversation about Beasel Tudin?
40:29Because uh this is Ryan Heath's guy and you know like I showed him my rankings.
40:35I'm like what do you think? And you know I he's like I don't agree with this but I get why you got there. I don't agree
40:40with this. I don't get why you got there. And he's just like Basel 2 needs to be way higher. And I'm like I kind of
40:45thought I was already high on it. I was like needs to be way higher. This is this is his guy. And like there's no one
40:51in the space, no fantasy analyst I respect more than Ryan Heath. He's really just brilliant and amazing. So it makes me nervous whenever we we're
40:59misaligned here. And I worry my take is like a cognitive bias. It's like emotion driven, which is like inexcusable.
41:08I can't have that. And it's because I love Chris Rodriguez coming out. I was a big Chris Rodriguez. I I thought he
41:16deserved draft capital way better than he got.
41:19>> And then he came on the show. He came on School of Scott. I interviewed Chris Rodriguez. We we had a great time. We we
41:27became chummy. He follows me on Twitter.
41:30Wish him a happy birthday. We're friends. I love Chris Rodriguez. And so like I look at Basil Tutin and Ryan Heath is like the the base case bare
41:40minimum is he's Etienne from last year but more efficient because you know he's not washed like Etienne is. You you we
41:49were both really high on Beijel Tutin coming out and me I just like I just think Chris Rodriguez is just going to
41:56get 12 to 14 carries every single week.
41:59So with Tutin it's everything that's left over. like Crod's not going to get a single target, but 12 to 14 carries
42:06every single week. And so like it it shrinks the pie that's left for Totin.
42:11But I don't know if this is just because like I want this to be the case because Crod's my boy. He came on the pod. Uh so
42:18you tell me, am I thinking about this logically or not?
42:22>> Well, first of all, I just got to point something out here that there was something said in that in that diet
42:26tribe that I can't let go. Uh >> oh. We think Tootton could be a more efficient version of Travis ETN or
42:33Achan, whatever we're calling him these days.
42:35>> Etn.
42:36>> Do do we really think running back the running back himself is who controls their efficiency?
42:43>> Well, I'm just saying like the expectation for a Liam Cohen backfield should be extremely high and it wasn't last year and I think that's because ETN
42:51was washed and it's going to be much better this year. Yeah, I'm pointing out that offensive line is what controls a
42:56running back's efficiency.
42:58>> Okay.
42:58>> More than the running back itself, right?
43:00>> More than the play caller. Okay.
43:01>> They didn't upgrade their offensive line.
43:03>> Okay.
43:03>> And so we can point at metrics from Travis all day long and say he wasn't very good. The force miss tackle rate
43:10was low. The yards after contact were low. Explosive run rate was average.
43:14yada yada. That's offensive line driven mostly in my opinion. So I like can Basel Tuton increase the efficiency on his own a little bit? Sure. He's a more
43:22explosive player, maybe has more wiggle than than Travis does at this point in time. However, like it's generally an offensive ecosystem equation, and can
43:31Liam Cohen improve that second year in the system? Sure, we saw a massive jump in Tampa Bay. However, his offensive line in Tampa Bay at his disposal
43:39significantly better than what he's got in Jacksonville. So, like I just want to point that out. I think the expectations of Tuton taking this to another level on
43:47his own accord is a little out of my perfect like I'm not willing to go that far for one and then for two there's a
43:54real downside case with Tuton that is scary and it is you mentioned how much you like you know Chris Rodriguez you
44:00know who else does Liam Cohen >> the guy you love coming out of college played for Liam Cohen and he was that
44:07entire offense he was a wildcat quarterback he was an every down back for them like he was a monster and so
44:15yeah there's a chance Liam Cohen just wants his boy and I know there's a health risk right now with Rodriguez but
44:20I I think he'll end up being fine for the season right and then on top of that they have a third back and Laquent Allen
44:25who's probably a better pass catcher than Basel Tutin so like there's an extreme downside case for Tuton where it's like >> yeah you're right Rodriguez might get 8
44:35to 12 carries a game and then if Laquent Allen plays even half of the third downs >> Toutton is completely fantasy irrev
44:42elephant. Now, I'm not predicting that's going to happen, but like there's so much risk involved with Tuton to me that it's like [snorts] he's another one I'm
44:50kind of like I see the upside. I do see the ceiling if he does win that job.
44:53He's a bellcow. It's insane. However, there's enough downside here where I'm like I just don't know how I feel about it where Trayvon Henderson really just
45:00like we kind of know what his situation is. We know Raandre is a good football player and if Raandre were to get hurt
45:06or get in the doghouse, Henderson's like a to the moon type player. I kind of tied this full circle back to the
45:12question, but >> so I don't know.
45:15>> I'm going to blow your mind with a stat real quick. Yeah. Shout out to producer Trey. Chris Rodriguez is a less athletic
45:20Marshon Lynch. That was his own comp for himself. He said that on our podcast, but um >> and I think that was also our comp uh
45:28based on film. All right, here's a stat to blow your mind. Since entering the league of 67 qualifying running backs, Chris
45:36Rodriguez ranks first in yards after contact per attempt, which Liam Cohen had, every time he's asked about a running back, he talks about how much he
45:46values yards after contact per attempt.
45:48Chris Rodriguez number one since entering the league, number two in success rate, number two in stuff rate, number three in EPA per run behind only
45:55Devon Aan and Derek Henry, fifth in touchdown rate, eighth in miss tackles force per attempt. Uh I still think, you know, Basil Tutin's for sure probably
46:04the better back, but again like Liam Cohen his history uh he, you know, went out of his way to sign him. Uh and it's
46:13a player I've always been high on. I will say this. So, so factor in injuries. Trayvon Trayvon Henderson way more upside. If Raandre Stevenson goes
46:21down, Henderson to the moon like you said, but assume full health for Raandre and Crod. Tutin has way more upside in
46:28my mind.
46:30>> Yeah, that's >> which is a hot take, which I don't I don't People are very high on Travian. I think I think we're I think I'm out on
46:36TV. I think Chris Wet is out on Tvian Henderson. just a guy who just like takes up space on your bench and you
46:43just you just hate come week seven you're like gh why did I draft you?
46:49>> I have to nerd out for a second. You mentioned Chris Rodriguez yards after contact success rate. You know to me
46:55that's the that's the hallmark of an efficient running back like for a running back that's going to control efficiency. It's like success rate EPA
47:02per rush non-exlosives and then um yards after contact. And so what is the goal of of offense? It's to score points,
47:11right? The goal isn't necessarily to have the most robust run game. The best way to score points is to have a robust
47:16pass game, Scott. And so the best way to do that is to get your quarterback in manageable situations, to stay on
47:22schedule, to get play action, right? We we've talked about all the the cheat codes to to efficient offensive play calling. Well, having a an efficient,
47:32success driven back like Chris Rodriguez is is a huge cheat code. And this is why Kenneth Walker didn't work out in
47:38Seattle because he's not any of those things and he's uh an explosive runner only and and that's why Zack Charbanet routinely played over him is because
47:46Charbanet is the stay on schedule guy and so you if you want to live in this play action world which we know Liam
47:51Cohen does like that's the best way to do it being second and five not you know second and nine with every once in a
48:00while hitting explosive and Tuton is definitely a more boomer runner than he's he's definitely more on the the Kenneth Walker. per train than say Chris
48:07Rodriguez. So >> I I have a devil's advocate argument for Tudin. Um okay, >> which is going to be a nice segue into a
48:16follow-up question.
48:17>> Uh so so one thing that matters is, you know, play callers don't want to be tipping their play calling hand, whether
48:24the play is going to be a run or a pass.
48:26Here's a crazy Chris Rodriguez stat.
48:28Since high school, he averages just 3.3 receptions per game. like he is a total and complete non-factor in the passing game which is why Tuton has way more
48:38upside than Chris Rodriguez does even if he Rodriguez is as good as we want him to be. Um and so maybe there's a world
48:46where yeah they just want Toutin to be their bellcow. It's not tipping the play call, etc., etc., but this is something
48:54that's been explicitly said by commander, new commanders OC David Blau, uh, that they don't want to be tipping their play calling hands. They want a
49:04multiaceted running back. And so I'm wondering who you think that's going to be. Do you think that's going to be Rashad White who is an exceptional pass
49:16catcher, not a great runner, and we've seen him be a bellcow for a stretch or do you think it's going to be Jacore
49:23Kroski Merritt who I think is a really underrated impressive early down runner with a rare explosive skill set that again is rare and it's hard to find and
49:34OC's are valuing that much more explosives in the run game today than they have in the but has historically been a non-factor
49:43in the passing game. Who do you think is more likely to run away with it? Uh, by the way, Jakori Kroski Merritt also led
49:51the league in yards per carry from outside zone. This is supposedly going to be an outside zone scheme. Rashad White pretty bad in zone, much better in
50:00man gap. Um, what what do you think it's it's is trickier to teach? you know, catching the ball or uh who do you think
50:07is more likely to get that bellcow role if if one exists?
50:11>> It's a great question. I I think right now without seeing how these guys develop in training camp, I think Rashad
50:17White's the more complete player. I think he's functional on early downs and really good on pass downs where I think JCM is early down only right now. But
50:24like I haven't been, you know, standing next to JCM when he's doing his pass drills this off seasonason. So I have no
50:31idea where he's at. You know, I I kind of think like we started the conversation talking about beatw writers and overvaluing it. I think coach speak
50:41is also up there with things we overvalue.
50:44>> It's like remember these guys when they say things they're not ever saying things in terms of production or fantasy football.
50:50>> Like they're just simply pointing out like a lot of it is just like hey I have to answer this question because it was
50:56asked and here's my answer. It's like it's not always well thought out. It's not always there's not always some carrot to find and every little thing
51:04they say and I think we we kind of over you know analyze that stuff as well. So I don't know I mean JSM's younger with
51:11probably more ceiling so I think maybe they work him into an every down role at some point but I think Rashad White's a
51:16really good football player just not great on early downs.
51:19>> Yeah I just want to say on coach speak that's something we added to ball knowledge uh you just go to
51:24fantasypoints.ai AI. If you're a subscriber, you can access it. But yeah, we included all press conference transcripts into the AI. And so that's
51:32actually been really helpful for me in my research process is again like I don't I don't care that the coach is
51:39saying, "Oh, Rashad White's really good.
51:41We really like him. Oh, Jakori Crossy, he's really talented." What I'm asking are questions like, "Hey, uh, do the Giants want Jackson Dart to run more
51:50this year or run less this year because the injuries?" and it pulls up the exact quotes and it's it's like hardball
51:56saying, you know, we we need to protect him, but that's more just he needs to get out of bounds. He needs to slide. We
52:02don't want him running less because that's such a valuable component to his game. And it's like, okay, good. Yeah, I don't have to move him down in my
52:09rankings. You know, he's still going to be a Konami code uh quarterback. And so, yeah, shout out to Ball Knowledge. Also,
52:15shout out to Ryan Heath, who uh is here in the comments. Tudin led all rookie running backs in the fantasy points data
52:22era in success rate. So he had an all-time great success rate last year.
52:26So I again I just said you know Chris Rodriguez top two since he came into the league. Well, uh might have been even
52:32better. So you know shout out to Ryan Heath who's the toughest guy in the world to argue with just because dude
52:37he's so smart. He knows what's predictive and what's not. So yeah this is one of the ones that has has really
52:43I've struggled with is is where to rank tootin. I again I worry it's just because like it's wish casting. It's emotional. Like I pride myself on being
52:51cold and logical and rational and it's like do I just want Chris Rodriguez to be a thing because he's my boy? I don't
52:58I don't know. You tell me. Con comments.
53:00Please leave comments. Tell me. Tell me where you stand on Tuden versus Crod.
53:04>> All right. We got a question here that I absolutely love talking about. Brock Chain asked, "What's Romeo Dub's ceiling if he's getting the majority of the slot
53:14work?
53:17I have I have a great answer to this, but uh I I'm really curious to hear what you think because I saw you leave a a
53:24GIF in response and uh seemed like you thought this was a stupid question >> or not worth answering.
53:32>> No, >> maybe I just can't read your gifts.
53:34>> Maybe I'm a bad ger. I don't know. My wife thinks I'm hilarious.
53:37>> Maybe you're a bad ger.
53:38>> I don't know. No, I think this is this is such a fun >> your love language.
53:44No, that's that's actually not physical touch for those wondering.
53:50>> All right.
53:52Good to know.
53:54>> All right. You want You want me to just >> No, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. So, you wanted my take on Dub. I think Dub is a
54:00fantastic player. I've been saying for years he's underrated. I think he's a total package. Route runner, body control, ball skills, but he's lived
54:09primarily on the boundary. Right. When he does go on the slot though, if you look at the ass metric, Scott, >> number one in in separation,
54:16>> number one >> for for players aligned in the slot.
54:19Isn't that crazy? No, it's a relatively small sample, so let's not get super crazy with that. It's just it is interesting. I think
54:25>> he's an under underrated separator. Out of like 12 or 120 qualifiers, he was like 39th in separation score the last
54:32year. Look at the last three years, he's top 30. Um, and that was primarily as like an X guy, right? But when he kicks
54:37into the slot, it gets even better. And then I know you're about to lead us on a journey through Josh McDaniel's history
54:44as [laughter] a play caller and the slot receiver. So why don't you go ahead and do that?
54:48>> Uh yeah, so the stat you're referencing over the last two years, Romeo Dobs leads the league in ass from the slot.
54:56He's one, Z Flowers two, George Pickkins three. Lot of lot of commentary this offseason about the Cowboys trying to get in more work from the slot. Jerry
55:04Judy four, Malik Neighbors five, Jamar Chase six, Aman Ross St. round seven, Justin Jefferson eight, only 15.8% of his routes in the slot, but when he was
55:14there, he was exceptional. Also led in separation win rate, as you could tell from this this list, a lot of really
55:20good wide receivers on there. And then the Josh McDaniel slot thing is, yeah, you look at Josh McDaniel slot, uh, since he came into the league as a play
55:31caller, his slot wide receiver finishes top 12 in fantasy points per game 44% of the time. Top 25 72% of the time. Do you
55:41want to guess what Romeo Dob's ADP is >> in underdog?
55:46>> Go ahead.
55:47>> Wide receiver 52.
55:49>> Smash that.
55:50>> I know. So, I'm not a baseball guy, but that's dude, basketball ADP is awful this year. I don't know what these
55:57basketball drafters are doing, but uh Romeo Dobs is, you know, an extreme value. And uh yeah, shout out to our guy
56:04Zayn Dani. I know we we were trashing beats earlier, but he had a great he's had multiple tweets where it's like no
56:11no Dobs is very clearly the slot in this offense, but one of the beats and one of the better ones said uh two days ago
56:19that they envision him as like the PPR cheat code Stfan Diggs role where AJ Brown is more like the deep threat
56:28stretching the the field putting pressure on the defense even when he's not getting the ball which is like oh Maybe maybe we're all way too low on
56:37Romeo Dobs, way too high on uh AJ Brown.
56:41Certainly this is one of those things that and by the way the the Josh McDaniel slot thing people are like oh
56:46yeah well they had Wes Welker and they had Julian Edelman and it's like yeah those were UDFAS like [laughter] it's kind of the chicken and the egg
56:57thing.
56:57>> Um >> and so yeah it's like dude no one's talking about this. No one's talking about this this slot role which is
57:04historic oh Jacobe Meyers another UDFA historically super valuable. Uh and so I I've struggled with where to rank him.
57:12He's still kind of I don't know does he have enough upside to really matter to be uh you know a flag plant. I don't
57:21know but uh there there's something here and it's and it's really curious no one else is talking about him except for
57:27you, me and Zayn. If if the ADP stays around 52 for reddraft, wide receiver 52. Yeah, I'm flag planting this. This
57:36this is an ascending offense that's completely revamped their pass catching unit. Like, >> yeah.
57:41>> Yeah, we AJ Brown's good. That doesn't pro, you know, prohibit Romeo Dubs from being super fantasy viable, man.
57:46>> He's uh he's 54 on ESPN, 53 on Yahoo.
57:51>> Yeah, that's crazy.
57:53>> Yeah, but I mean there's a lot of guys like that. like your boy Ricky Pearl is wide receiver 46.
57:58Um so there's just kind of >> this is why we're hammering running backs early, Scott.
58:03>> Yeah. Yeah, that is right. That's that's exactly right.
58:06>> Um all right, I want to do one more tweet we got and then we'll we'll move over to to some Discord questions that
58:10we got. But um here's a here's a tweet from Oh, I put the tweets from Dvont Smith. That's actually not true. It's a
58:16question about Dvont Smith. But uh guy asks, "Dvont Smith, great role but poor at beating press coverage. What stops every team from pressing him and
58:27dramatically lowering lowering his ceiling?"
58:30Um here isn't that common, right? Ex.
58:34>> That's what I was say. Here's the thing about press. Jamar Chase saw press the most of any receiver last year and it
58:39was like 118 snaps like like 20% of his routes run or something like that. So, like, sure, they could press Dvonte a
58:48little bit more, but like what is the net result of that gonna be? I also think they're gonna hide Dvontto a
58:54little bit. I think Dantavian Wixs profiles as a X better than Dvont. So, I think they'll keep him in the Z or F
59:01role and we don't have to worry about this much, if at all. Um, actually, I'm going to look it up. I'm going to look
59:07up how many times Dvont Smith was pressed last year.
59:09>> Well, I can tell you his efficiency.
59:11Shout out to Fantasy Points data uh against press coverage last year.
59:16>> Yeah, not great actually.
59:17>> This is true. This is true press. 0.88 yards per route run which you ranks 62nd. And then against on plays without
59:26press coverage, 2.12 yards per route run that ranked top 20. Um and so yes, skinny Batman I think is just a little
59:34too skinny. And and it's not just press coverage. He could also get as he's running his routes, he could get bullied
59:40by more physical quarterbacks. He could get pushed to the boundary, uh, not really give himself enough room to work.
59:47And so, uh, yeah, I think this is a fair concern, but I I mean, I also think he's going to be incredibly successful
59:53without AJ Brown there.
59:56>> Yeah, it is a fair concern, but again, pressed on just 56 routes. He had negative ass on those routes. Even if
60:02that doubles, guys, >> like Taylor Swift negative ass.
60:06>> Oh my god.
60:09Wow. Uh, dark places here on the School Scott live. Um, even after us, >> even if his press routes double, that
60:18would mean he's number one in the NFL in the amount he gets pressed, which I don't even think they're going to allow
60:22to happen. They're gonna hide him at the Z or the F. And then so but even if that happens, the increased opportunity he
60:28gets from AJ Brown leaving will completely offset those 50 snaps he's going to get pressed extra. So um I'm I'm not too worried about it. Do you
60:37want to hit some Discord ones?
60:39>> Yeah, let's do it.
60:41>> I have a a real fun one. I I thought this question was awesome and something I can relate to because I think it's
60:48easy to get left in the weeds in some of these, but long as Simus asked, most industry analysts speak primarily in terms of I want some shares
60:58of X guy or Y guy. Can you demystify this language for those of us who care the most about winning our top one to
61:05two leagues? Can you help us remove the need for a diversified portfolio? How you would draft differently >> if it was your only draft? I I love this
61:14question so much because I hate >> I shouldn't say I hate I don't like talking about fantasy players in terms of like the stock market and I know if
61:23you play in 30 Dynasty Leagues that's the that's the you know a lot of people feel like they have to have that
61:28attention to detail in order to be successful across all 30. But Scott, you said something pre-show that I just think was a banger line. I want you to
61:36go ahead and wrap on that for a second.
61:38Then I'll throw in my two cents.
61:39>> I I don't even remember what I said.
61:42>> You You basically said, "No, I draft the exact same because if I find an edge, I'm just going to keep exploiting that
61:48edge over and over and over and over and over."
61:50>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's diversification is for cowards. Yeah. when my whole thing is there is a market inefficiency here on this player on a Parker Washington on
62:00my Exodia quarterback. And so when I see an edge like that, I'm just going to keep tapping that button over and over
62:08and over again. And so like legitimately if I draft 25 FFPC teams, I'm going to diversify very little. And the only
62:17instances where I am going to diversify is let's say I have the 103 in 10 leagues. I'm gonna draft 50% Puka, 50%
62:26Jamar Chase. Why? Because like literally to me it's 5050. It feels like a coin flip between them. Um but for the most
62:33part it's like no on those 25 teams I'm going to have 93% Parker Washington. I'm going to have 100% Exodia quarterback.
62:42I'm gonna have And so that's really what it is. And you know you know you talked about the stock market upside wins
62:48championships. The whole thing was about how actually fantasy football is not like the stock market. It's it's it's in many ways like the complete opposite.
62:57And so, uh, yeah, diversification is for cowards. Shout out to my guy Theo, but that's something we always buted heads on last year where it's like, no, Cam
63:06Scataboo in every draft, no matter what.
63:08>> Yeah, >> not diversify.
63:10>> An Exodia player is an Exodia player whether you're in 30 leagues or one league, right? So, yep, >> go go go collect those. for me too, like
63:18winning is obviously super important, but so is like being convicted and there's just some players I'm convicted on that I don't want pieces of, you
63:26know, it's very rare for me and I I play a lot more dynasty than reraft obviously, but it's very rare for me to
63:32concede to, oh, I need a share of that guy. Does it happen occasionally? Sure.
63:36Like I think I have one Caleb Williams share, you know? Um, but >> don't draft out of FOMO. Yep. try and
63:43remove the emotion from the equation and really just when you see an edge, hammer it.
63:48>> Boom. Love that. Um, here's another one from the Discord. Charles Morrison says, "If TDs are more important than ever and
63:56Devonte is who he is in that respect, is he still undervalued for the same reason? Is Z Flowers overrated?"
64:04>> Uh, so actually this is really interesting. This is something that uh Ryan Heath and I were were debating in our projections channel yesterday where
64:12it's like he was like, "Hey, are we way too low on Z Flowers, a guy I've always kind of been something of a hater on,
64:18and I saw that getting a play caller downgrade because of just I mean Declan Doyle comes from the right tree, but I
64:24had a ton of respect for Todd Monkin.
64:26And Z Flowers really benefited because he saw a ton of screens, a ton of manufactured touches, a ton of busted coverage, and he was running routes from
64:36a heavy personnel at one of the highest rates in the league, which is an efficiency cheat code for wide receivers. It's easier target
64:42competition against tight ends than it is wide receivers. And so that guy's leaving. And but they they haven't replaced him with anyone. Like I I was
64:50like, "All right, Keenan Allen's going to be on this team. Maybe Keenan and Stefan Diggs are going to be, but they're not adding anyone. it doesn't
64:56seem like they're in any rush to. And so if Mark Andrews is dust, it's Zay Flowers as um just like the only guy. And so like
65:06the only nitpick here is like the guy doesn't score touchdowns. And Ryan Heath was like, well, you know, we've said we
65:13we know touchdowns are kind of fluky and random and they regress to the mean. You know, Antonio Brown didn't have a lot of
65:20touchdowns early in his career. Trey McBride had a lot of touchdowns early in his career. And this is these are great
65:25arguments. Like I'm not saying he's wrong, but to me it's like, yeah, I know. I dude I was writing, you know,
65:31uh, touchdown regression articles probably when Antonio Brown was a rookie, you know, saying touchdowns regress the mean and it's volatile. But
65:40you look at a Z Flowers and like, you know, I want to like think I know better that I think I know when I can break the
65:48rules. And I feel like Zay Flowers, 5 foot8, 185 pounds. he he ranks outside of the top 50 wide receivers and end
65:56zone targets every single year that hey maybe this is just a guy who doesn't score a ton of touchdowns and is really
66:04just a PPR scam and so he doesn't have you know bury you upside and then Devonte Adams conversely it I struggle to see a ton of upside for him
66:15beyond the the touchdowns. Um, and so, by the way, this this question is coming from a tweet I put out two days ago with
66:23the Kball kickers making longer and longer field goals than ever before with um, you know, starting field position going closer and closer to the end zone
66:32because they're changing the kickoff rules every year. T it shaves off about like 22 yards per game. And so touchdowns are worth more. They're more
66:42important. Yards are worth a little bit less. And so he's asking, "Hey, is Devonte Adams maybe someone we want to target?" And so, yeah, uh, elite
66:52touchdown upside. He he led the league in ass from a red zone ass last year, separation win rate, and he was like 2x
67:01the next closest player. Like, he's just really good at that. And if you look at the Rams, what they did was it was a ton
67:06of 13 personnel with Adams on the field, no puka on the field. And so, yeah, a ton of touch touchdown upside for this
67:13guy. But that's really all it is. Like I I like Adams this year. Um a crazy stat is in games he played on at least half
67:22of the team snaps last year. So controlling for injury games he played on at least half the team snaps. 19.2 XFP per game. 17.1 fantasy points per
67:32game. Both top five numbers. And he's wide receiver 26 by ADP. But he's old. I really like Mike Evans. I really like
67:40Devonte Adams. I really like their touchdown upside. Their ass was amazing.
67:45These old ass wide receivers, Adams was one, Evans or Evans was two in in ass last year. And so they still got it.
67:53What do they got? They still got separation. What do they don't have?
67:57They don't have Yak. If you look at the worst yards after the catch per reception seasons in fantasy points data history, they were both in the bottom
68:06six. So over a fiveyear span, 33y old Devonte Adams, 32y old Mike Evans.
68:13They're both a year older now. Bottom six. So like clearly there's some deterioration in skill set, but these where you you can't expect a ton of yak.
68:24What can you expect? And we talked about this in our last episode is the separation ability. This is more less physical ability, more film study, route
68:34running, technician nuances, subtle head fakes, IQ, etc. And so I think that's going to be there. And so to answer the
68:43question is is yeah, I think I think because of the way the the game is headed, it's going to give them a buffer
68:52um where their separation matters, especially inside the red zone. Um, and it gives them a it gives them a nice little buffer. Um, do they have league
69:02winning upside? Um, what do you think, Brett?
69:07>> I don't I don't know about league willing winning upside, but here's the I just want to say this, too. Like scoring
69:13touchdowns is a is a skill. It is a skill. Like, yeah, I in aggregate across the whole league, there is a regression
69:20to the mean for touchdown scoring.
69:22However, there's a reason Devonte Adams is always good at it. It's because he's good at it. like he scores a lot of
69:27touchdowns because he's a really good red zone receiver. He's he you mentioned the separation numbers in the red zone.
69:32They're they're crazy outlandish, but that actually is a skill. So like, and the reason this is an important conversation, Scott, and I don't know,
69:41we probably didn't back it enough for people that don't have time to follow every story line. One of the things we've uncovered, you know, pretty
69:48clearly is passing is down across the league. Touchdown scoring is down across the league. And so touchdowns, they mean a little bit more when when you're
69:56scoring less of them, when scoring in general is down, when passing yards are down. So I do think it's important, you
70:01know, to have a guy like Adams feels really reliable because, you know, he's going to be in the mix in the red zone
70:07offense and score a bunch of touchdowns where to your point, Zay hasn't proven now for what, three years, four years that he can score touchdowns.
70:15>> So >> yeah. Yeah, >> there is something to that. Yeah, I will say I do think Adams is a value, but um
70:23you do have some injury risk there with the age and whatnot. You know, Rams were kind of flirting with the idea of
70:28trading him and acquiring AJ Brown. Um but yeah, should should be, you know, among the favorites to lead the league in receiving touchdowns this year for
70:38sure. Probably going to score a lot more of those than Puka even.
70:42>> Do we want to have the Caleb Williams discussion again or can we just tell them to go watch the last episode? Go
70:48watch the last 10 in a row.
70:50>> Jeb 217, I see your your question here about Caleb. Uh last Friday's school, Scott, we did a quarterback tears episode. We talked Caleb Williams for
70:59about 10 minutes.
71:01>> Yeah. So, >> definitely watch that episode.
71:02>> I would say go check that out if you want my answer on Caleb. Plenty of data cited as well. Um all right, let's let's
71:09move on here. Let's do um John stupid in the Discord writes and I'm not calling him stupid. That's what he calls
71:15himself. Is zero RB sneaky viable this year? RB is getting pushed up the board and there's always value in zigging where others zag. I don't know if
71:25there's always value in that, but uh this is this is absolutely a question for you, Scott. I I'm very comfortable pounding running backs early and I I
71:32don't even when zero RB was cool, I never did it. So, I'll just let you take this one.
71:37>> Yeah, I would definitely say running back running back feels optimal and I feel really confident in saying that.
71:43This would be a case where I diversify, though. Like I if if I had 25 FFPC teams, I a number of those I would just
71:50go uh zero RB to to mix it up to to try and capture enough upside to win their million-dollar grand prize. Um and you
71:58could win with any strategy. And so like if you read my draft guide, it's hey, I I really want to go RB RB or RB wide
72:07receiver RB. And if you look at my overall rankings, there's a clear priority on the running backs over wide receivers early.
72:15And then there's a running back I really like in round four. There's an Exodia in round five. There's a running back I
72:21really like in round six to seven.
72:23There's an Exodia in what is it? Round nine. And then there's some dart throws I really like. I think there's a ton of
72:32ton of upside in a we talked about Rashad White, Jakori Kroski Merritt.
72:37There's a last round running back I really like. I I want in all my leagues.
72:42So I think yeah I think you can win with a zero RB approach. It's just yeah maybe you start Puka
72:51Drake AJ Brown and then dude if my Exodia round nine running back round five running back uh late round running
73:01backs hit like you are this unstoppable juggernaut. So, um yeah, I I think you know any strategy can work and if you
73:10read my draft guide, um you know, it should work. So, um no matter what you do, I think you could feel confident
73:17you're going to have an edge.
73:19>> Word. All right, let's hit um let's go black mamba. This is a great follow-up to your to that question I was just
73:24asked. If you go RB in the first, which receiver do you like late second? Nico Brown, I'm assuming AJ Brown, George
73:33Pickkins, Rashi Rice.
73:36Oh, that's a toughy, man.
73:38>> It is tough.
73:39>> My My instant lean is George Pickkins, >> but I see the case for all of those guys, to be honest with you. They all
73:46have pretty awesome roles, but I just think George is going to play in probably the best passing offense among that group. And so even though he might
73:55not have the role that Arashi Rice or Nico Collins has, I think it's going to be offset by just overall opportunity
74:03and explosiveness. And you know, Dak's going to lead the league in dropbacks. I think it'd be him or Bo Knicks probably.
74:08So >> yeah, I'm going to I'm going to just punt this question because I have those guys all ne like right after each other
74:15in my rankings. Yes.
74:16>> It's one I I keep I keep flipping back and forth on because it is really tough.
74:20>> Yeah. Well, I've I've called on this very show I've called CD Lamb the the worst first round pick you can make. So,
74:25I have to back that up by saying Pickkins might be the best second round pick you can make. Right. So, >> so I I'd lean uh Pickkins there.
74:33>> All right. Mikey Tay asked, "What's the be Oh, that's Mike Taylor, by the way.
74:37Uh one of our OG charters here. He's amazing. Fantasy point.
74:41>> Shout out to the Charters.
74:42>> What's the best landing spot for Stfan Diggs and does it matter?" Absolutely it matters. I think I think Diggs I mean
74:49he's a thousand yard receiver last year on like a 50% route share which is ridiculous right so still still has some
74:55stuff in the tank I Scott for me it's like for are we talking fantasy or X's and O's for fantasy it's got to be
75:04well let's do realistic spots I I'll like cancel out Miami or or Las Vegas I don't think he's going to either of
75:10those two teams >> oh man Las Vegas would be sweet they should >> Could you imagine Diggs in Vegas though that'd be
75:18>> [laughter] >> Yeah, >> you would move Brock Bowers up, right?
75:24>> Yeah, I think I would.
75:26>> Yeah, >> like that's a good thing for Brock Bowers if that happens.
75:29>> Yeah, he needs someone else the defense has to pay attention to for sure. Um like Yeah. Anyways, I don't know. I
75:36think fantasy-wise, I'm going to say the Washington Commanders probably.
75:41>> I mean, that's where he's going to go.
75:42It feels like a foregone conclusion at this point.
75:46Yeah, it it matters for sure. I think Digs can play. Scary Terry is on an island out there right now. It'd be it'd
75:52be good for Scary Terry, actually.
75:54Probably. Yeah.
75:55>> You know.
75:55>> Yeah.
75:56>> So, Hershey Forever says, "Digs to the ners is the most dangerous."
76:01>> Could you imagine him and Evans together? Like the geriatric unit.
76:06>> Wow. Yeah.
76:09>> Digs in BBL Capital Miami would be the worst. Oh my gosh. [laughter] Um, all right. Brain frog, brain frog, not brain fog, asks, "Where is the value
76:19upside at QB? In superflex leagues, late round QBs shift into the fourth, sixth round next to wide receiver, running back value picks.
76:32This is you, Scott."
76:34>> Um, >> I I don't do like a lot of reddraft superflex. Isn't that weird? If I do reddraft, it's usually one QB. And I
76:40don't know why that is, but >> yeah. Let me let me pull up my draft guide. Um, in Superflex, like the
76:48equation train ch changes really dramatically. So, it's my Exodia um quarterback is going to be different in Superflex. And also for 16, like 16
76:59and I'll just give it away. It's Dak Prescott, which is who it was last year.
77:03Uh, crazy good value in six point per passing touchdown leagues. In superflex, I think it's it's Malik Willis.
77:11definitely like draft either one of Yeah, it's it's Malik Willis.
77:16>> Okay.
77:16>> And then Kyler Murray is another good quarterback late. Um make sure you uh that's just like insane value for the
77:23super flex format. But also like Brock Pury types are are pretty good value.
77:28>> Where's Bo Knicks going?
77:30>> I don't know. I I don't like Boon Knicks though. So >> I I kind of do. I mean, he's Yeah, he
77:35feels like one of those kind of safer high-end QB2 types who beat his ADP.
77:41>> Yeah, he led the league in dropbacks last year and he runs a little bit >> his ankle, but yeah, >> the ankle wasn't It's not that bad.
77:49He'll be all right.
77:49>> It was really bad.
77:50>> He'll be all right.
77:52>> It's like his seventh surgery on that ankle, too.
77:55>> Oh, is it actually dang, I didn't know that.
77:58>> Look at writer Scott over here telling me what's up with these injuries. But anyways, he leads the league in led the
78:03league in dropbacks. Ecosystem got dramatically improved with Jaylen Wadd at receiver. Plus, he's going to run a little bit. I still think he'll run a
78:09little bit. It's in his DNA. That's why he keeps having surgery on that ankle, Scott.
78:12>> Yeah.
78:13>> But all right, we got >> We got to get out of here. Yeah, >> we do. We got to wrap this up. It was
78:16awesome.
78:16>> People wanting more.
78:18>> Yeah, exactly. We got to just give them give them enough to where they want more andaste. A taste.
78:22>> Yeah, give them a taste. Uh, this was awesome. Chat was popping off again. Um, I see a lot of the same faces in here
78:29too, like every time we do a show and I love that for us. That means we have a really solid community here and we're
78:34very appreciative to you guys. Thanks for all the amazing questions, the super chats, yada yada. We'll be back next Should I tease next Friday?
78:41>> Sure.
78:41>> Well, actually to we have another episode coming out later with um Danny Kelly. That's that's one you don't want to you don't want to miss. Shout out.
78:48Then next Friday, we have Matt Harmon coming on the live to do a >> kind of like a reception perception verse ass episode. It's not going to be
78:57contentious. I know that's branded as it's going to be fun. We're going to talk about our biggest differences and and some lessons learned at wide
79:02receiver and stuff like that. It's going to be a really fun episode. So, make sure you're back next Friday. And on
79:07that note, I'm Brett Whitefield. This is my co-host Scott Barrett. And we are out. [music]

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