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Answering 2026 Fantasy Football's BIGGEST Questions - The Caleb Williams Debate!

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Aug 27, 2026
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Thu, August 27, 2026
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Colston LovelandAaron RodgersCaleb WilliamsChris OlaveDK MetcalfFernando MendozaJordyn TysonLuther BurdenMichael PittmanMike Washington Jr.Nico CollinsRome Odunze
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Aaron Rodgers

PositiveProjection45:30

Veteran quarterback with potential remaining production capability; posed as spicy question about whether Rodgers still has something left in the tank, suggesting possible upside in 2026. Evaluated as a potential Steelers QB with remaining fantasy upside; speaker suggests Rodgers still has something left in the tank and would benefit from the Steelers' improved offensive line and receiving corps, particularly Michael Pitman Jr. who can win routes quickly and operate in short-to-intermediate range that suits Rodgers' current skill set and injury concerns.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeProjection5:12

Despite being priced at his ceiling (QB7 on Sleepers and Yahoo), Caleb Williams is overrated as a fantasy asset. His highlight-reel throws are statistically rare and matter far less than consistent accuracy and avoiding negative plays; one wow play does not offset three turnover-worthy throws plus four sacks. He ranked 14th in the NFL last year despite playing with Ben Johnson, the best play caller in the league, largely because he takes so many negative plays. He is dramatically below average in completion percentage over expectation, success rate, adjusted yards per attempt, and passer rating—literally bottom 10 in every major efficiency metric. He is also below average in hero throw rate, meaning his clutch reputation is driven by a few bright-light moments rather than a sticky skill. He ranks 25th in EPA per dropback over the last two years (14th last year specifically). He needs to take a big step forward before he arrives as a fantasy asset.

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Chris Olave

PositiveProjection24:00

Downgraded outlook due to Jordan Tyson's season-extending injury; previously had a pathway to PPR cheat-code status with Tyson healthy, but now faces reduced target opportunity. Historically has not separated from Rasheed Shahid on a per-target or per-route basis over two years (2022–2024), suggesting limited ceiling even with Tyson sidelined. Currently projected as WR10 in fantasy points per game but was WR7 last year; the ecosystem has improved in year two of Kell Moore and Tyler Shuck, with an improved offensive line and run game. Olave is an elite route runner and technician with excellent separation and break quickness; he excels on boundary routes and the vertical plane. Kell Moore has a strong track record with number-one wide receivers. The speaker is drafting Olave ahead of Drake London and Rashid Rice, and believes he is at worst WR7 again this year, making him undervalued at current projection.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeValue15:00

Priced at ceiling as tight end three across all formats despite significant downside risk. Four-game breakout sample (super Trey McBride/Brock Bowers numbers) followed by 15-week stretch of minimal production when Cole Kmet was healthy; breakout games coincided with extreme negative game script (Bears trailed 75%+ of the time in all four games), a fluky condition that inflates tight end scoring but is not sustainable. Bengals game featured worst tight end defense in multiple decades. Ranked too high in early drafts relative to positional value; goes ahead of T. Higgins on ESPN and Zay Flowers on Yahoo despite being a tight end with only four good games in his career and part-time usage. Requires 93–95% certainty he replicates final four-game production to justify draft cost. Speaker emphasizes burden of proof is massively on drafter at this price point; drafting a tight end this early is one of the biggest rookie mistakes in fantasy. Taking him in the first four rounds is a 'sexy pick' but a strategic mistake—drafting a wide receiver or running back in that spot and waiting on Tucker Kraft or George Kittle late would result in a better overall roster construction.

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NegativeValue19:55

Ranked too high in early drafts relative to positional value; goes ahead of T. Higgins on ESPN and Zay Flowers on Yahoo despite being a tight end with only four good games in his career and part-time usage. Taking him in the first four rounds is a 'sexy pick' but a strategic mistake—drafting a wide receiver or running back in that spot and waiting on Tucker Kraft or George Kittle late would result in a better overall roster construction.

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DK Metcalf

NegativeRole46:35

Positioned to benefit from Michael Pittman Jr.'s addition by being placed in his correct role within the Steelers offense; however, noted as limited in lateral agility and more of a deep threat who takes longer to get open, making him less ideal for Aaron Rodgers' preference for quick-release throws compared to Pittman's short-to-intermediate route-winning ability.

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Fernando Mendoza

PositiveProjection45:12

Raiders quarterback with potential to elevate offense in run-heavy system; posed as spicy question about whether Raiders could be great with Mendoza at helm, suggesting upside potential in offensive scheme. Discussed as a potential starting QB for the Raiders with possibility of success in a run-heavy offensive scheme; speaker raises the question of whether the Raiders could be great with Mendoza at QB in an era-level run-heavy system.

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Jordyn Tyson

PositiveInjury24:00

Suffered a season-extending injury that eliminates him as a PPR cheat-code option in the Saints offense. Injury expert Jeff Mueller expressed pessimism about his season outlook, directly impacting the target distribution for Chris Olave and other Saints receivers.

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Luther Burden

NegativeValue19:00

Priced too high relative to sustainable production; benefited from extreme negative game script in final four games when Bears trailed 75%+ of the time, inflating fantasy output. The math doesn't check out for Luther Burden to be as high as he is in draft rankings/ADP given this fluky game script context and the need to separate true breakout from game-script-driven scoring.

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Michael Pittman

PositiveRole45:42

Very underrated player who was injured most of last year but remains a multiple-time 140-target receiver still in his prime; his addition to the Steelers elevates the entire offense by putting DK Metcalf in his correct role, elevating Roman Wilson and the tight end room, and elevating the run game. Specifically noted as a better fit for Aaron Rodgers than DK Metcalf because Pittman can win routes quickly and operate in short-to-intermediate range, which is what Rodgers wants given he can't take hits and wants to get the ball out quickly.

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Mike Washington Jr.

PositiveBreakout40:02

Rookie running back the speaker was very low on but who looks very good in preseason; has a big, physical, explosive frame with underrated hands and pass-catching ability, evaluated as similar to Omari Hampton but correctly drafted in the fourth round rather than first; projects as change-of-pace back at minimum with potential for 65/35 carry split with Ashen Genty. For reddraft purposes, expectations should be tempered by the Washington competition, though dynasty owners of Genty can survive as Washington will handle burden at minimum.

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Nico Collins

PositiveProjection29:08

With Higgins gone, the speaker is all in on Nico Collins and is drafting him ahead of Justin Jefferson, representing a bullish stance on Collins' elevated role and target opportunity in the Texans offense.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeRole22:49

Not positioned as the Bears' wide receiver one despite being drafted as such; Luther Burden has demonstrated superior route-run rate and is the primary receiver in the offense. Rome Odunze's on-tape performance and early-season usage under Ben Johnson do not support WR1 status over Burden.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00Ladies and gentlemen, you are watching or listening to Fantasy Football Daily, Brett Whitefield, Scott Barrett. We have to address it. We have to address the
0:08situation. [music] Listen, I I know many people are mad at us.
0:20>> We need to talk about the Chicago Bears.
0:22Many people are are mad at Brett, really more than anything. Uh, and and Brett is a slippery snake. He is He's hard to to
0:32nail down with. What What exactly how are your opinions on the Bears? Do you think this this team's not going to make
0:40the playoffs? Do you think this is not a top five offense? Because it it definitely is going to be.
0:46>> You just want me to hit like the Bears season outlook?
0:50>> Sure. We could go player by player. I I want to know. People on social media are very angry with you. They're saying very
0:57mean things about you. I want to know is this what are your thought? What are your thoughts on the be and then we
1:03could go one by one on on select players or what where actually do you stand?
1:09>> I've been getting hit with with Bears mean tweets since February and Trey producer Trey Motion man is putting some on the screen right now. Word on the
1:18street is you're missing some hair.
1:19Thank you. I didn't I had no idea.
1:21Didn't I had no idea. Um there there's some other hilarious ones I'll let you guys read as we as we talk. But yeah,
1:28this all started because I've been just saying the truth about Caleb Williams. Like there are some factual things about Caleb Williams that I've
1:39stated that have gotten me in trouble with Bears fans for whatever reason. And I I know fandom is a hell of a drug and
1:44I know that uh like I expect fans to defend their guy, right? But the hate and the vitriel that this has created
1:52has been unbelievable.
1:54And so [laughter] yeah, some some of these are just absolute bangers. I love them. Um I for what it's worth, these don't bother me,
2:01so keep sending them my way. I I lay in bed at night with my wife and we just die laughing to some of these because
2:06these are legitimately funny.
2:08>> Do not send me the equivalent of this. I am soft, so I can't handle that, but please. Yeah, more more [snorts] mean
2:14tweets at Brett.
2:16>> I've definitely gotten used to it with the Bears fans. It's it's a love hate relationship. But so let's let's I guess
2:21let's talk Caleb Williams. Let's talk Bears. Let's just do the whole thing.
2:24But um for me with Caleb Williams, like it started >> first. Are the Bears going to make the playoffs this year?
2:32>> No.
2:34>> Uh are they going to have a top five offense in points per game?
2:40>> Could Yeah, I think so. Probably. I I think they might get there. Yeah.
2:44>> Okay. Is Ben Johnson a top three play caller in the league?
2:49>> Top two.
2:50>> Top two. Is Colston Loveland already a top five tight end in the league?
2:56>> Like in terms of just skill or fantasy?
2:59Real football.
2:59>> Real football, not fantasy.
3:00>> I don't think I could crown him that yet, but he's close. I would expect him to be a >> Is Luther Burden an upgrade on DJ Moore?
3:15Probably not.
3:17>> Not yet at least.
3:19>> Okay. Caleb Williams, does is he not one of the most one of the top five most impressive quarterbacks in the league
3:26from a trades perspective?
3:28>> That's probably true. Yeah.
3:30>> Okay. So, how could you hate this this team?
3:34>> Top five tight end.
3:36>> They have like a ridiculous talent, a Tracy quarterback, a brilliant offensive play caller.
3:44traitsy quarterback that doesn't actually play quarterback yet. Um, listen, fantasy points data suite has pretty much everything you need to see.
3:52But one of my evaluation points on Caleb coming out is the accuracy was severely lacking. And on top of that, he
3:59fundamentally refuses to run the offense the way it's designed to be run. And this got him in trouble a ton in
4:06college, especially his final year at USC. This got him in trouble a ton as a rookie. And it got him in trouble a ton
4:12last year in his first year with Ben Johnson to the point where like Ben Johnson was adamantly displeased with the pass game that was
4:21that was unfolding in front of our eyes during the regular season last year. He had multiple comments about the pass game being less than sufficient. And
4:30Caleb Williams is the engine of that. He didn't directly call out Caleb Williams for it, but he is the engine of that.
4:35Most of the critique Ben Johnson had with the pass game starts with the quarterback. Um, but when you look at the catchable throw rate over the last
4:43uh two years, Caleb Williams is second to last in catchable ball rate >> from a clean pocket.
4:50>> It No, it's in general.
4:52>> Oh, then both. Yeah.
4:54>> Yeah. The only the only quarterback that was that's been worse with among 35 qualifiers and catchable ball rate was Cam Ward. But he's stuck
5:03between guys like Michael Pennix and Russell Wilson and Cam Ward. Like this is not good company. And then you you you think about the fact like you know
5:12we chart who's responsible for pressure at at you know fantasy points data and Caleb Williams is responsible for more pressure that he faces than any other
5:22quarterback in the league. Now he did do a good job avoiding sacks last year. I would say that that's not going to be
5:27sticky or predictive considering the nature in which he plays. Like he just plays Matador style quarterback where he's inviting pressure into his life. He
5:36has the highest average time to throw among all quarterbacks the last two seasons over three seconds per drop back. Um and then the he's gotten some
5:45turnover luck as well. Like his turnover throw rate last year was 3%. He didn't he didn't throw you know three he didn't
5:51have a 3% interception rate. Um the fumbles untimely fumbles were were bad especially as a rookie. Um he just he's been crowned way too soon for me and I
6:03don't understand the disconnect. I know he's made some really flashy, amazing plays at the end of games. I know he's put on the hero cape and willed his team
6:12to victory a couple times. The problem with some of that line of thinking though is like the hole they were in was
6:18strictly because of Caleb Williams.
6:20Strictly because gosh, Scott, you had a stat last year that was just awesome.
6:25Like on non uh game script drives, Caleb Williams was like awful for the first half of the season.
6:33So, like they come out like the first 10 plays, they're scripted.
6:37>> Caleb Williams is great and then all of a sudden just nothing until the fourth quarter. Now, he definitely ironed that
6:42out somewhat in the second half of the season. And I guys, I think Kayla Williams is an ascending player, so let's not throw the baby out with the
6:47bathwater. I do think he's an ascending player. I do think he has the physical traits to be a great a truly great
6:54quarterback in the league, but he's not even close to that yet.
6:59Like you look at the top guys in the league whether it's you know you want to call Patrick Mahomes or or Josh Allen or
7:07you know think Tom Brady and you know at the end of his career um Joe Burrow it's like these guys just
7:14can fundamentally run the offense at such a high level like one of my favorite stats for Pat Mahomes for for people that think Caleb is the
7:23next Pat Mahomes has had four seasons where he has had positive EPA on throws at the line of scrimmage or within nine
7:32yards of the line of scrimmage. There's only seven instances of that happening in NFL history. And Pat Mahomes is four of those. Freaking four of them. Like
7:42you can't compare the two guys. And that's the comp where like the NFL is in this habit of we're just chasing the
7:48next Pat Mahomes, the next out of structure demon who can go win with his legs and make extend plays and make
7:53stuff happen.
7:54>> You're talking about Jackson Dart, >> right? the next Patrick Mahomes at a structured demon.
7:59>> You're just never going to find that guy. You're never going to find like cuz Pat Mahomes can do that, but he also can
8:05just run the offense at such an obscenely high level that he doesn't have to do that all the time. He can
8:11actually just, you know, make the smart right throw on 95% of the snaps and then the the f I love this liver king one.
8:18Sorry. [laughter] The liver king thinks Williams is back. That's great. I truly thought that was funny. Um, yeah. So, it's just again to to completely sum up
8:27my thoughts, Caleb Williams is an ascending player with a fantastic play caller, but he's not there yet. Most fraudulent Madden cover in in Madden
8:35history, probably. I'd have to ask Thomas Tipple about that actually. But, >> but but he but Brett, he has the the
8:41clutch gene. He makes he makes plays that like >> maybe only four other quarterbacks in the league can make, if that. I only
8:51Stafford, Mahomes, Caleb were making, you know, some of the could make the the plays that Caleb made.
8:57>> Yeah, I'm sure they're one or two plays a game at most. Go look at the play that ended the Bears season. He completely
9:05misread a coverage, completely misread a safety rotation, falsely identified it as as a as a quarter's look, and he completely botched the play and threw a
9:15pick to end their end their season. So like yeah, for every hero play there is a a bad play in there that that ends
9:22drives. So >> So >> actually I wanted to look at like where his EPA is per dropback.
9:30Um yeah, I mean he's 25th in the NFL the last two years.
9:38>> Yeah.
9:38>> Is is that amazing? Like especially what is he with just Ben Johnson? Let's look at that.
9:45um 14th in the NFL last year with the best play caller in the NFL and and a lot of that is just he takes so many
9:53freaking negative plays, man.
9:57>> Yeah. So, so my thoughts on this, you know, largely derived from, you know, the conversations we h we've had is yes,
10:05Caleb Williams makes these insane wow plays that only a few other quarterbacks can make. It's really cool, but it's also overrated. Uh, these are rare events
10:16that matter statistically less than being a consistently accurate passer who avoids negative plays. The highlight reel throws stick in the back of the
10:28mind of the average fan.
10:31So much so that like it's being weighted as if it's equivalent to making 99 out of a 100red easy completions or it
10:40cancels out three turnover worthy throws plus four sacks. It just doesn't work like that. It's not even close. And that's why Brett and like real film
10:50evaluators and former coaches um and anonymous scouts kind of all say the same thing is that
11:00um you know he's he's kind of overrated.
11:02He kind of has really good rapport. Uh he is kind of propped up by a great supporting cast. Um you know this is a a
11:11fantasy show from a fantasy perspective.
11:14I I mean to be fair he's he's really priced at his ceiling. He's QB7 on sleepers, QB7 on Yahoo, >> but like yeah, what is he like QB10 in
11:24my own rankings? Like that's he's I I He's a guy who runs. He's in a great offense. Uh I think the Bears defense if
11:32if they're a little bad and like I love Ben Johnson. Like Ben Johnson is talking about breaking the Denver Broncos record
11:41for most points per game this season.
11:43Like that that's exactly what you want to hear. and this guy is a driven genius lunatic. Like he could actually get that
11:49done even if his quarterback's not that great. But also like you know devil's advocate argument is like I I was very
11:56negative on rookie season Caleb Williams and it was not just the catchable throw rate but it was also a historically bad
12:04pressure to sack. And I know they massively upgraded that offensive line in the offseason. That's typically a quarterback sat. And he went from worst
12:12in the league to average, slightly above average. And I know you were you were saying he was kind of inviting pressure
12:20himself. And I'm, you know, fleeing from the pocket in instances where there wasn't pressure and uh doing things like that that maybe the average fan isn't
12:28going to pick up on. I know you're big into like >> football IQ and, you know, uh quick processing and hitting the open guy and
12:36whatnot. And I know Ben Johnson by our data is the best play caller in the league at scheming receivers open. And
12:43again, it was a good supporting cast, but hey, he did show us at least in one way he he leveled up massively. And so
12:49maybe we could see that with elite coaching with the right support system around him, he could level up again and finish above average in catchable throw
12:58rate and force you to wear a Caleb Williams jersey every day on this show, which was the bet we made.
13:05>> It's just not going to happen. I mean, >> how confident are you? Why Why are you This reeks of hubris,
13:12>> Scott, we have like this has been a thing since he was a freshman in college. The accurate throw stuff.
13:18>> How could that be true when he was the best prospect since Andrew Luck >> because I just explained it because
13:24there Yeah, he wasn't first one, he wasn't even close to the best prospect prospect since Andrew Luck. But people are chasing Patrick Mahomes. That's what
13:31they they want some, you know, out of structure phenomenon. And >> it's Jackson Dart.
13:38>> Sure. I also just want to point out >> chasing the next Patrick Mahomes, the conversations around Jackson Dart would be much different. That's all I'm
13:45saying.
13:45>> Yeah. I also just want to like point out if you if you don't uh if you don't for whatever reason trust fantasy points
13:52data like the charting component you could there's a million metrics you can still use that are completely black and white completely empirical to show you
14:02that Caleb Williams is like middle of the pack or worse and literally every major efficiency metric whether it was completion percentage over expectation
14:09he's dramatically below average whether it was success rate or uh adjusted uh yards yards per attempt or passer rating, EPA per it doesn't matter. He's
14:21literally bottom 10 in everything, but you got those five plays in the back of your mind. So, I I don't know. I
14:27don't want to beat a dead horse, but like he has not arrived yet. He needs to take a big step forward. Um, by the way,
14:33the Bears defense is going to be horrendous this year. So, that is um something to talk about. up.
14:39>> Yeah. The only quarterbacks worse by completion percentage over expectation last year, Aaron Rogers, Michael Penn, Cam Ward, uh an injured Baker Mayfield
14:48and CJ Stroud. Um >> Yeah.
14:51>> Oh, can I make one more point? So, like you talk about the hero throws, we chart those. He's actually below average in
14:57hero throw rate.
14:58>> Oh, yeah.
14:59>> Yeah.
14:59>> Which is hilarious.
15:00>> Yeah.
15:01>> It's literally just that when he's done it, it's been in bright light moments. I just don't Is there such thing as a
15:07clutch gene? There for sure is some players just have a knack for making that play in the big moment. I would
15:12argue though that over the to totality of the NFL that is not a sticky thing that like that those hero throws in the
15:18big time moments is just not something you're you can count on to consistently happen year over year. So >> right >> got a long way to go.
15:26>> So you you have my word no more negativity on the Bears for at least at least a month. You have my word
15:31>> at least a day or something. At least a day or something.
15:34>> But but you were the only one who who caught flack. I I caught flack as well and I I catch a ton of it. Um, this is
15:40like my least popular take. People think I'm an idiot for saying I don't think Coulson Lovelin is
15:48a good pick at cost. And I get that we had, you know, a sound bite from this show that was 45 seconds long that went
15:57out on Twitter and very angry comments that I didn't reply to because what I what could I say?
16:04It's, hey, this was like 30 seconds taken out of context from a 9minute. Why don't you go listen to the 9minute rant?
16:10And you're not going to do that. But so I'll just address it here. It's like the dumbest thing in the world is me saying
16:17is like, "Yeah, Colston Lo's a bad pick at cost." And hearing that is like Scott hates Colston Loveland. And it's like
16:25no, that's the second order thinking. It's it's relative to cost. It's I mean it's it's it's it's nuanced. It's so Coulson
16:36Lovelin I think is an insanely talented player. I think he's Yeah, it looked like he broke out in those final four
16:43games last year. He saw an uptick in usage and he was the real focal point of the offense. He was putting up like
16:50super Trey McBride numbers, super Brock Bowers. He was like a alpha wide receiver one and he looked incredible and this was a player I was really high
17:00on. I I was I was pounding the table so hard for him uh before the draft that his mom followed me on Twitter and I
17:08DM'd with his mom. I love Coulson Lovelin. I had a tweet saying like >> sounds like you love his mom. [laughter]
17:15>> I had a tweet saying he's like a top three tight end in the league already from an NFL perspective. Uh and people
17:21are like we're jumping the shark on on Coloulston Lovelin. You're this is so stupid. You're too high on it. And then
17:28and then I say from a fantasy perspective, I don't want to draft. And like I hate him now. It it doesn't make
17:33sense. It's what's going on here is I'm telling you, yeah, he's kind of priced at a ceiling.
17:40He's the tight end three on every single format. Um and there Trey McBride just broke records. Brock Bowers is the best
17:49tight end of all time. And so yeah, he is kind of priced at a ceiling where none of the risk is is is factored in
17:58it. Listen, I penned my self-proclaimed Magnumopus upside wins championships.
18:02It's upside wins championships. It's not downside is irrelevant. And there is real downside here. It is it is really the case that when Cole KT was healthy,
18:12it took 14 or so games.
18:15>> That's the quote that got you in trouble. Actually, you said 15. He did absolutely nothing for 15 weeks.
18:21So with Cole KT healthy, it was Yeah, it took until week 14, week 15, whatever it was for him to break out. But that's
18:29like a a really low, you have a 4 game sample size of great and then you have a 15 14 week sample of nothing. And like
18:37people are like, "Oh, that doesn't matter at all. All that matters is the four game sample." at this price point.
18:43I'm telling you, you you have to be 93% sure to 95% sure that he is exactly who he was in those final four weeks and
18:54those first 15 weeks tell you absolutely nothing because it it is true that he didn't do really anything at all with
19:02Cole KT healthy. He went nuclear in the Bengals game, but the Bengals had the worst defense against tight ends in multiple decades. Yeah. If not ever.
19:10Yeah. And it's also like those four games came with fluky extreme negative game script. Like it was wild. Every single one of those games the Bears
19:20trailed uh over 75% of the time. Like the entire rest of the season there were only like two instances of that
19:28happening. And like that's the thing is whenever you have extreme negative game script like that, you're always going to score a ton of fantasy points. like
19:36Hunter Henry averaged like 28 fantasy points per game when trailing 75 plus% of the time and Trey McBride was like, you know, 29. And so, yeah, like that's
19:47a real thing that like bolsters Caleb Williams, bolsters Luther Burden, bolsters Coulson Lovelin. If you're only looking at those final four games,
19:55that's Chris Wex. That's part of his hesitancy on the Bears. He's a lot lower on them. He's like, "The math doesn't
20:00check out for uh Coulson to be as high as he is, Luther Burden to be as high as he and so I I'm I'm I'm somewhat
20:10uh I I I I can get that. I understand that. But the really really big thing to me here and again why it's not he hates
20:19Coulson Lovelin. No, it's it's because the burden of proof is massively on you.
20:25It's It's just like one of the biggest rookie mistakes in the game, Brett, is drafting a quarterback or a tight end in
20:32the first four rounds, right? And I Okay, maybe Trey McBride you can make a case for because hey, he just scored the
20:38second or third most fantasy points by a tight end ever. Brock Bowers, okay, similar arg.
20:48But it's it's I'm telling you, if you take Coulson Lovelin, it's a fun pick.
20:52It's a sexy pick. He's an awesome player to root for, but you are going to like your team so much more had you not done
20:59that. Like if if at the end of your draft you took Coloulston Lovelin, you're looking at it, you're like, you know, you know, if I just I just took a
21:07wide receiver there or I took a running back there and then I took Tucker Craft or George KD late, you would like that
21:13team so much more. And so it's very much a it's like having cotton candy for dessert for for dinner. You know, you
21:20got to eat your vegetables. Upside win championships. Power law players or running backs and wide receivers. Those are the positions that really matter.
21:29Those are the positions that determine whether or not you lose win or lose your championship. Uh, you know, really driving the impact in terms of wins
21:36above replacements. It's generally a bad move taking a tight end that early who only has four good games in his career and, you know,
21:48was just a part-time player for the the vast sworth of the season.
21:53>> I don't know.
21:54>> No, no, I like it. I think that was good.
21:57>> That that was solid of you to get that off your chest. That's been eaten eaten away at you since we did that episode.
22:02>> Yeah. But hey, I'm actually a big Luther Burton guy, even at cost. Yeah, >> Chris Wet isn't, but uh or projections
22:08guy, but yeah, we debated him. Uh very in on on Luther Bird. And again, it's like positional value. Uh it just the
22:16wide receiver position matters a lot more in fantasy. He's cheaper than Coulson Lovelin, who dude, again, Coulson Lovelin goes ahead of Zay
22:25Flowers on Yahoo, ahead of T. Higgins on ESPN, and I could just not get on board with that. But Luther Burton, uh a
22:31couple rounds cheaper. So, uh, yeah, that that is a Bears player I'm weigh in on. I I also kind of like DeAndre Swift
22:38a little bit.
22:39>> Where's Rome going, Scott?
22:41>> Who cares where Rome's going? It's the Luther Burden show, baby.
22:44>> I care where their wide receiver one's going. I think that's important to tell tell the audience.
22:49>> What has What has Romo Dunce ever showed you to think he could be the wide receiver one over Luther Burden, who
22:55just had the best rookie for route run since OBJ?
22:57>> On tape, he's been significantly better.
23:00And then Ben Johnson proceeded to run his offense through him when he was healthy for the first eight games last year. So [snorts] those two things I
23:06think are pretty significant. The offense has never been run through Luther Burton. Not one game. Not actually here's a fun stat on Luther
23:13Burn. He had more games with negative receiving yards last year than he did as a wide receiver one or two finish.
23:19That's hilarious.
23:22And this is your king. More games with negative receiving yards. You know how hard it is to do that then as a wide
23:29receiver one or two. That is flipping unbelievable. Anyways, we just spent 25 minutes talking about the Bears. Can we move on?
23:36>> Sure.
23:37>> Okay. You wanted to talk Chris Ave.
23:40>> What What's on your mind? This is This was your addition to the mailbag. It wasn't a uh you know subscriber or
23:47an avid listener of the show. It was It was you. You put Crystal Live here.
23:51What's What's up? [laughter] >> Yeah. So, so Jordan Tyson suffered an injury that's going to extend into the season. Jeff Mueller, our injury expert,
24:00generally optimistic is just like straight up black pilling. Like, it's over, guys. It's so over. Uh, and so I was down on Chris Olive
24:10because I I don't know. I I saw a pathway for like Jordan Tyson to actually be the PPR cheat code in this
24:17offense. Chris Lave still productive but maybe not top 12 fantasy wide receiver production and now you remove Jordan Tyson from the equation and you know it
24:26makes you Yeah, I got to I got to think twice on this.
24:31>> Um and so [clears throat] I don't I feel like I don't have a great argument against it. So like I I really
24:38want to hear yours. Um but to me it's Yeah. Well, before last year, Chris Olive never really separated from Rasheed
24:50Shahid. Like on a per target or per route basis, Rasheed either bested him or was just like slightly behind him.
24:56They were basically tied. And >> how big is the sample of them together on the field?
24:59>> Two years. It's pretty big.
25:00>> No, games wise, they both miss a ton of time in in 2024.
25:05In fact, like when when uh Kubak was there, he had like his starting skill players, I think, in four games the
25:11whole season.
25:13Well, to be Yeah. So, it was you could go 2022 to 2023 or 2022 to 2024. Uh either way, it still holds true. So,
25:22even if you remove the Clint Kubiaak season, it still holds where it's basically tied in in yards per route run. And so, there there's just that,
25:30but like Ryan Heath's counter argument is like, "Yeah, dude. Rashahed's awesome. We love Rashahi. What are you talking about?
25:36>> He's good and also not on the team anymore." So, >> Right. Right. But then it's also he it really felt like he fell into a dream
25:44landing spot. Tyler Shuck fell into a dream landing spot last year where once Tyler Shuck took over, he was really the
25:53or they had the softest schedule in the league by far. And it wasn't just Rasheed Shahed got traded. It was also
26:01Devon Vi got hurt. And the last three games Devon Vi played or like right up until that injury, he had more targets
26:10than Chris Olive. He had uh more yards than Chris Olive. And so this is sort of like the the counterargument. There's
26:18more nuance here. I think Olive was a little banged up in one of those games.
26:22Um so there's a little new but it's but it's yeah, this is the downside. The the upside argument is easy is hey just in
26:31games with Tyler Shuck last year he averaged 8.9 targets per game 18.8 fantasy points per game easy top 12 numbers
26:41but I don't know. So I I want to I want to hear your thoughts. You need to be the film guy here. It's it's Oh, Tyler
26:47Shuck's awesome. The the play caller's awesome and Olaf is awesome. First of all, do you when you wake up every morning, do you like just go out go to
26:56your daily checklist things I have to do and then check off I want the name Karens to come after me in full force.
27:03>> The name Karen?
27:04>> Yeah, cuz you said Devon Vi.
27:06>> Oh god, I know. What? Why do I do this?
27:08>> Who is Devon Vi? Like there's going to be some name Karen in the YouTube comments saying the the most basic thing
27:16you can do for human decency is to get a person's name right. You It's like every day we have a new one with you. You know
27:21what I mean? So, just >> the rule is the rule is you you have to uh have a season with more than two
27:28fantasy wins above replacement in order for me to pronounce your name correctly.
27:33So, you got >> I think it's a completely awesome rule.
27:37Um, all right. So, here's the thing with Olaf. I think this is one of my biggest disagreements with Chris. He's projecting as the what the wide receiver
27:4510 in fantasy points per game right now.
27:46He was a wide receiver seven last year and I think you could argue the ecosystem is even better. Year two of
27:51Kell Moore, year two of Tyler Shuck. The offensive line is in a really good spot.
27:56They're they they improved the run game a little bit with with Travis Aan. I know he's not super sexy from a metric
28:03standpoint, but I do think he's better than what they got last year out of the backfield. So, um and then you you you
28:09talk about the tape. Chris Ave is fantastic dude. He truly is a fantastic receiver. one of the better route runners, route technicians in the
28:17league. Um, his separation burst, getting out of his breaks is incredible as well. I I'm a big Chris Olive guy.
28:25Um, you know, there's things he doesn't do well. He's not a good run after catch threat, not a guy design screens to. I'd
28:31pin him on the boundary or or as a vertical player out of the slot and just let him cook. And that's primarily what
28:36he's done. And he's fantastic. He's pretty good on um pretty much any route into the boundary. He's really fantastic there.
28:43He's good on the vertical plane as well.
28:45I think, you know, the track record with Kell Moore and number one wide receivers is also really strong where you're like,
28:51"Okay, I think this is repeatable." I think at worst he's probably wide receiver seven again this year. I'm drafting him ahead of like Drake London
28:59right now. I'm drafting him ahead of Rashi Rice right now.
29:02>> Um I think you get to Jefferson, that's when I really start to talk about it.
29:08>> So, >> wow. Um, yeah. I mean, and then Nico Collins, I you know how I feel about Nico and with with uh Higgins gone, I'm
29:15I'm all in on Nico. I take Nico ahead of Justin Jefferson right now, too. So, but point being is like I I think Ave is
29:21good. I think he's excellent and I think we're Chris is under projection on him.
29:26Chris is right all the time, though. So, who knows? But yeah, I'm I'm all in on Olave. You should be too, Scott. You
29:32should be too.
29:32>> Okay, that's good to know.
29:35>> All right. Uh let's move on. If you were >> Hey, real quick. I I for your your Caleb Williams bet, here's
29:42here's here's what it should be.
29:43>> Oh god.
29:44>> Here's what it should be.
29:45>> Above average in catchable throw rate.
29:48He is uh you have to wear a Caleb jersey every day for a month on the show. If he's But if he's top 12 in catchable
29:56throw rate, you also have to paint your nails for the show.
30:01>> I I'm not doing that. [laughter] >> Well, you're scared. You clearly you don't hold a lot of conviction.
30:07>> I am scared to put myself in a situation where I have to paint my nails. I'm a grown adult. I'm 38 years old.
30:12>> All right. Well, next uh next question we have uh is from a super chatter.
30:18Harry Henry47.
30:20What is a special factoid or tidbit from from both of you guys? Um interesting. Good question.
30:29Thanks for that, Harry. Um >> I don't see this on the show sheet. I I'll go first. I I can I can interesting
30:37factoid about me is I could actually bench press twice as much as Brett Whitefield.
30:44>> Yeah.
30:45>> What's your interesting fact?
30:48>> Um >> Brett can't read. He's [laughter] Brett is illiterate.
30:54That's Isn't that crazy that he >> What is happening right now?
30:57>> I mean he's a football X's and O's savant but he he can't read. Scott, I don't even think you could bench your
31:03body weight. And I definitely can read.
31:06>> Yeah. Well, then you you bench half of my body weight. That's crazy.
31:13>> You're so ridiculous. Um, but for what it's worth, bench is not my best lift.
31:17If you want to get into that, get in the weeds on this.
31:20>> What's your What's your best lift?
31:21>> And it's funny cuz I'm only Yeah, I'm only 5'11 and I've got a a short arm build. You know, >> 5'11 in high heels.
31:29My [laughter] >> Trey, what is what is going on? It's got all of a sudden a Bears fan here. Like what is happening? You want to talk
31:36about the gap in my teeth? Look at I'm balding over here. You want to see that, too? My god, man. Um, yeah. I don't I
31:42don't bench.
31:43>> You should You should buy a wig.
31:47>> I think that'd be a good look for you.
31:48>> You should buy a Mkin.
31:50>> What is that?
31:51>> You told me before.
31:52>> Google it.
31:53>> Yeah.
31:53>> Um, anyways, yeah. Bench not my strongest. I just I don't know. I've never really committed to being awesome at the bench. I don't enjoy it as much
32:00as I like squatting and deadlifting. So, I I pull a lot of weight. I mean, my bench isn't terrible. It's still four
32:05times your body weight probably, but it's not bad. Anyways, can we get to a real question now?
32:10>> How many push-ups can you do?
32:12>> Oh my god. I don't know. Oh, well over.
32:14You mean in one in one sitting without stopping?
32:16>> Five or six >> push-ups, Scott? Over a hundred >> in one in one go.
32:22>> Yeah.
32:22>> Okay.
32:23>> I do push-ups every day. [laughter] Uh, pull-ups. I can do >> have to drop and do How about How about
32:30that's If Caleb Williams wins more than four games this year, you have to you have to do a thousand push-ups live on stream.
32:40>> Do you see what [laughter] >> All right, we're a little We're a little off the rails here.
32:45>> A word that you know >> um you ever seen uh there's a show on HBO.
32:51Gosh, what is it? It's a like old kind of wild west.
32:55>> Deadwood. Great show.
32:56>> Deadwood. Yes, it was referenced on Deadwood once. Anyways, >> great show.
33:01>> Uh, another new question. If you were an NFL head coach or offensive coordinator, who would it be? What how did this make
33:08the show sheets guy? What are you doing here? This >> Yeah, so this is a great question. Um, so I'm not Mike McDaniel. I'm not cringe
33:19enough to be Mike McDaniel. I'm not I'm not uh I don't have I'm too tall to be Shawn McVey. I don't have the same
33:27>> Shawn McVey is a short king. What do you He's like 5'7.
33:30>> Yeah, I said I'm too tall to be Sean.
33:32>> Oh, too tall. My bad. My bad.
33:33>> I don't have the Napoleon complex thing going on that that drives him to be great. I'm not competent enough to be Kyle Shanahan. I
33:43I think I think Shawn Payeyton there's this legendary story of Shawn Payeyton where he's just like this hilarious Like there's a million Shawn
33:52Peyton stories, but this one's the best one.
33:55>> Is uh at a preseason game, another coach like called him up and was like, "Hey, let's let's just take it easy. Let's uh
34:01you know, we don't want our guys to get hurt. You know, no play action, no motion, no uh stunts, no." And uh Shawn
34:10Peyton was apparently like, "Fuck that.
34:12I'm not kissing your ring. No, no, no. I don't agree to that." And then he uh he just calls all out blitz for the first
34:1915 plays of the game. Almost gets their the opposing team starting quarterback killed. And then he wins the game like this meaningless preseason game 47 to to
34:29three. Um >> don't ever say preseason doesn't matter right there, Sean. It mattered to Shawn Payeyton. You know, >> that [laughter] mattered in that one. I
34:36just think that's so funny. Uh he he's also like one of the more underrated guys. So like who would I want to be
34:43that's like realistic is probably Shawn Peyton. But you're going to say I'm what? I'm Matt Ngi. You're going to say I'm
34:50>> No, like Zack Taylor.
34:52>> Zack [laughter] Zack Taylor.
34:53>> You come from a long lineage of really smart guys, but they just stop just shy of you, you know?
34:59>> Well, I feel like I know who you are.
35:01>> Probably.
35:03>> Dan Campbell.
35:04>> Of course. 100%.
35:05>> Of course. Of course, >> dude. He's the man. He is so sick. He is so cool. You also both chug like five
35:12gallons of coffee, but >> personalitywise is that is the one to one, right? Or most one to one, I should say.
35:18>> Well, Robert Salah maybe a little bit.
35:20>> Yeah. And I I like I've spent some time with Rob in in real life, so yeah, it's it's a good one. Big big fan of his.
35:28>> Yeah.
35:28>> Yeah, I could see that. definitely more of a leader of men, you know, than uh than like the the nerdy X's and O's Ben
35:35Johnson type.
35:36>> Yeah, if if we're going off of bench press and you're perfectly Dan Campbell probably and I'm perfectly uh Mike McDaniel.
35:43>> Well, here's a good anecdote to support that. So, for those that don't know, Dan, when guys mess up in practice, he
35:49makes him do burpees >> and he does burpees with them. It's like, oh, if if I make you do 15, I'm
35:57I'm the coach. I'm going to lead. I'm going to drop and do. So, I coach soccer. I the same thing. Any
36:02consequence I give out to a player, I also do the con. If it's if it's a lap, I run a lap. If it's push-ups, I do the
36:08push-ups. So, um I got that from Dan.
36:10It's a great great leadership tactic.
36:12All right, let's move on. Who are you drafting reddraft? If you can take one, Casey Conpsion or Denzel Boston,
36:22this is Why is this even a question? You know my answer.
36:25>> It's Casey Conpion.
36:27>> Yeah, he's got pronouncing that right this time.
36:29>> I Well, you did and you really emphasized this like >> Casey Rolls. That's the key saying his name.
36:36>> Um, it's Yeah, he's got Antonio Brown level upside. So, >> Antonio Brown level upside, dude. I don't know that I don't know that Justin
36:45Jefferson has Antonio Brown level upside.
36:47>> He did once upon a time.
36:50>> I just mean like AB is one of one. You have to explain what you mean by that comp. You're you're you're saying he
36:56could be a Hall of Famer?
36:58>> Yeah, I think he probably could be. Not predicting him to be, but I I mean, just kind of joking. It's a it's a hyperbolic
37:06comp, but when I watch Casey Conception move, it reminded me of a young Antonio Brown as all like the way he he plays
37:12way bigger than his size, fantastic route runner, insane with the ball in his hands, that that was all AB described AB.
37:20>> Yeah. So, that's also my answer. um certainly had the better analytics profile. And then uh Todd Monin, you know, last year, the last two years with
37:30Zay Flowers, uh was really just like an amazing setup for him where he was, you know, no wide receiver was on the field
37:38more in heavy personnel, which is a cheat code for maximizing your targets per route run, yards per route run. Uh also designed targets, screens. Uh it
37:47was just this great setup. And then you had Todd Mon say right after they drafted Casey that he reminded him of a
37:55bigger Z Flowers. And you're kind of hearing some of the beats talk about, you know, a similar role where this is
38:02like an insanely screenheavy offense, which makes sense given how bad the quarterbacks are. And so that kind of mitigates the accuracy concerns we have
38:11with Shadur or Deshun Watson. I will say though like I don't know that there has been a bigger like practice hype darling this off
38:22seasonason than Denzel Boston >> early in camp that was true. KC's now stolen that it's every day with KC.
38:29Yeah, >> I do know I do know KC has been coming on hot and strong.
38:32>> Yeah.
38:33>> Um it's it's also Jerry Judy by the way is like the the beat writers are just flat out saying these rookies are so
38:39much better. So um yeah, that's really encouraging. Uh, I really like KC. I Here, here's a spoiler. Uh, FFPC Exodia,
38:48the the price on Casey Conception is so low.
38:52>> Really? Even with Theo doing all these drafts, >> bro? Theo and I just set the [laughter] main event record for the highest Casey
38:59has ever gone in a draft. We felt good about it. He's like, he's like, well, he's gonna go around before where we
39:04took him in September. So, >> yeah. Scott. Um, I love the Z Flowers thing, by the way, because when I wrote
39:13up Zay, I I talked about how he was the love child of Antonio Brown and Stefan Diggs from a play style standpoint. And
39:19then my good friend Cody Carpentier, who's a great draft an analyst and evaluator, his actual conference a Flowers.
39:27>> No, you can't. I promise you that. I can't bench more than Cody.
39:30>> Um, there are a lot of the NFL players who can't bench more than Cody.
39:34>> That's very true. I'll take him in the deadlift by like several hundred pounds probably, but he he can definitely bench
39:38more than me. Um, anyways, his his comp for Z Flowers was Antonio Brown and then his comp for Casey Conception was Antonio Brown. So,
39:46I I love the the dot connect.
39:48>> You know who hates that comp?
39:50>> Who?
39:51>> Antonio Brown.
39:52>> For sure. For sure. Um, well, I wanted to ask you about another rookie who I was very low on,
40:02>> but who looks very good in preeason, >> Mike Washington.
40:06>> And that's and it comes on the heels of a video we dropped, a very unpopular video we just dropped, >> that is critical of Ashen Genty.
40:16>> I nailed it. I knew this.
40:17>> How bullish should we be on Mike Washington? How worried should Ashen Genty Dynasty owners be about Mike Washington?
40:26>> I don't define worried. Define like for Dynasty. I think you're probably okay. I think he's still going to be a a
40:32fantastic back in a much improved situation. I think he's still a he's still a really good despite what the last video we published on the topic
40:40said. I believe Ashen Genty was a fantastic prospect.
40:44>> Yeah.
40:44>> So, he was my RB1 in the class by a lot.
40:48uh I think top 12 all time for me in like 11 years of doing this. So like I'm not not low on Genty, but good players
40:56get on the field and I do think what you're seeing is Mike Washington is a good player. So for reddraft purposes,
41:00yeah, maybe it should temper your expectations a little bit because I do think there's enough there with Washington where at at minimum he's a
41:07change of pace guy for them. He's like, "Hey, let's keep some carries off of of Genty and keep him fresh and Washington
41:14can handle that burden at minimum." At worst, you're like, maybe this gets to a 6535 thing and that's a little scary for
41:22reddraft, right? So, dynasty wise though, he might not be what you held out for when you tanked in your league and drafted him with the 101 that year.
41:30He might not end up being that, but you can survive. He'll still be a good player for you, still be a starter. Um,
41:36you know, and we're considering worst case scenarios here. As far as reddraft goes though, he's not he won't pay off around 180B, I don't think.
41:44>> Yeah.
41:44>> So, yeah. Is Is that sufficient? Do you want more?
41:48>> No, that's good. Yeah. I I I think that's I mean, he's a good handcuff just because there's nothing else and we're,
41:57you know, assuming 250 plus carries, like 50 plus targets for Ashen Ginty, but >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Washington looks
42:07great. Um, my eval on him was like big, physical, explosive with underrated hands and pass probability. It's a pretty good combo. Like he's like Omari
42:16and Hampton Light except he was correctly drafted in the fourth round.
42:20Like that's where you should be drafting running backs, not in the first, right?
42:22So like but as far as a skill set goes, he's a little looser of an athlete than Hampton actually. But very linear in in
42:30the way they play. Um, you see a little bit more patience in vision with Washington actually, which which was surprised me because I I didn't think
42:36that was a strong suit at Arkansas. So, >> his analytics profile was so bad. If I were a UFFL team, I wouldn't have signed
42:43him.
42:44>> Stop.
42:45>> I'm just like like the analytics are only as good as the analytics we get. I I'm It was awful. Awful. But yeah, like
42:53I mean, so the fact that you loved his tape matters more than >> What was it like force mistack or something? What was he so bad at that
42:59you raw accounting stats?
43:01>> No, it was literally everything. Yeah, it was it was like >> Sorry, go ahead.
43:07>> It was fifth was I mean you I think we did an episode on it for film versus analytics, but it was it was like first
43:15percentile.
43:17Oh yeah. So he he spent three years at Buffalo where he averaged like 4.1 yards per carry. This is a a MAC conference
43:26school where the competitions then a uh conference USA school New Mexico State where he was just like mid and then
43:35Arkansas last year where okay 6.4 yards were but it was it was like first percentile numbers or like below thresholds where there's like literally
43:45no one who's ever done anything.
43:47>> Interesting. You know he he shared a backfield at New Mexico State with an NFL running back.
43:53>> Yeah. Who was that running back?
43:55>> Um I'm >> the Penn State guy.
43:59>> Why can't I remember? What the heck?
44:01>> Seth McGawan.
44:02>> Yes. Seth McGallen. Yeah. Yeah.
44:05>> Yeah. Who's going to win the Colts backup running back job? Sounds like.
44:08>> You think so?
44:09>> That's That's the word on the street.
44:11All right, let's Can we we do one more and get out of here? I have another show I have to do, unfortunately. Um
44:18will you pick one of these because I think they're all good questions.
44:24Uh, what is what is the offense that you think is going to surprise people the most?
44:30>> I think Jacksonville could put up >> top top three numbers in just about every category.
44:35>> So, that's the easy answer. That would have been >> Sorry, I don't Okay, >> they right now Vegas has Jacksonville
44:43projected to be 16th in points per game.
44:46>> Chris and I both have them top six easy.
44:49>> Yeah. Um, >> and like that's what you saw in the second half last year. I know that was a soft strength of schedule that's gotten
44:54a lot tougher, but no, I I feel really good that I'm right and Vegas is wrong.
44:59And like you should never feel Well, I guess I guess with props kind of like this, maybe it's a little different, but
45:05um yeah. Well, that's that's an answer.
45:08What about a a more a spicier one?
45:12>> A spicier one? H gota >> Could the Could the Raiders be great with Fernando Mendoza? Is it poss era levels of runheavy? Is there any
45:30chance? Hey, maybe Malik Willis isn't worse than Justin Fields.
45:35Is it possible Aaron Rogers still has something left in the tank? A little bit.
45:40>> I was going to say the Steelers.
45:42>> Really?
45:43>> Like if you want a deep if you want a deep dive. Yeah, I think the Steelers could really impress some people.
45:49>> How?
45:49>> Well, they added a a really good receiver and Michael Pitman Jr., very underrated player who was hurt most of last year, but this is like a multiple
45:59time 140 target guy who's still in the prime of his career. And and what that does by bringing him in is it makes
46:07everybody else better. It puts DK Metaf in his correct role. It elevates Roman Wilson out of the slot or whoever is
46:14going to be playing slot for them. It elevates the tight end room, elevates the run. So, like I think that's a huge
46:19factor. The other factor is like their offensive line should be in better shape this year. Um, you know, they don't >> that's that's really what it comes like.
46:28So, I love Michael Pitman. I agree with you. Like he's a way better fit for Aaron Rogers who can't take hits, wants
46:34to get the ball out quickly. That's not DK Mataf who's limited in lateral agility is more of a deep threat. His his it
46:44takes him longer more time for him to get open where where Pitman could kind of win his route more quickly which is
46:50what and operate in the short to intermediate which I think is what Aaron Rogers wants. And you saw like or I'll
46:57let you say it but like >> Rogers like looked good throwing the ball. It's just everything else. And so if you could protect him and just allow
47:05him to throw the ball and to to this good receiving core where guys can get open.
47:11>> Yeah, for sure. And what we've seen from from the Steelers and their team building approach is like they're they spent a lot on the offensive line in
47:18terms of draft capital and that unit has been kind of growing together. They're moving Troy Fontanu to the left tackle spot to replace Brick Jones who might
47:28have a career-ending injury. And then everyone else is just progressively getting better. They bring in Spencer Anderson from Buffalo. Um or sorry
47:36that's wrong Anderson. Spencer Anderson they drafted I think in the seventh round a couple years ago. He's going to play right guard for them. And then they
47:42drafted Mike Max I inher to play right tackle for them. And I just think their offensive line's in a really good spot.
47:48I love Rico Dowel too as a a mainstay in the back field. You like Eli Hiden Hiden Reich as a passcatching guy. I just
47:55think overall like the situation's way better than people realize it is. if they can protect Rogers, they have the pass catchers now to to be decent. Also,
48:04this dude from Iowa, um Kaden Wetchin, he is explosive as heck, man. Like, he he might win their slot receiver role,
48:13which would give them a totally new dynamic in that offense that I think they're missing. So, um big big fan of
48:19kind of what they're doing. And then defensively, they're going to be good enough, too, where it's like I mean, they also drafted Jeremy Bernard in the
48:26second round. So, like I don't know. I I I think the Steelers as a whole might be better than people think. I think they
48:32might surprise some people, but offensively for sure.
48:36All right. You want to get out of here?
48:38>> Let's do it.
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