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1:57The theme of the day is aggression. Everybody's blitzing.
2:00It's not just Brian Flores. Although Brian Flores is blitzing a lot.
2:03I tell our guys all the time, if we're going to go down, we're going to go down a certain way.
2:10He's sacked! It does feel like so far this NFL season is just a race to the top in terms of who could be the biggest psychopath.
2:19Don't challenge Brian Flores because he's already at crazy levels.
2:22And hearing you say that anybody might even be within the realm of conversation with him could take us to DEFCON 1
2:29numbers when it comes to how many resources Brian Flores is going to send at the line of scrimmage.
2:35But you're right. We're going to do a lot of things here on this show.
2:40We're still going to preview some of the big games that are coming up for Week 3.
2:46But specifically, you and I and the team, when everybody talked about it, we're two weeks into the season.
2:52We are kind of starting to see some trends that I think are at least worth pointing out.
2:57And one of them is how defenses are kind of fighting back here.
3:02Before the season, you and I talked about, hey, the air raid style is dead.
3:07We talked about these more condensed sets from offenses.
3:09And defenses are now not just containing those, but we've seen in the numbers early on, they're kind of punching back here, which is pretty fascinating to see.
3:18Yeah, it's all about meeting aggression with aggression, right?
3:21And I think one small sliver of that that I want to highlight.
3:26So we had talked briefly, honestly, probably should talk more about it.
3:29But after the Australia game, right, the Niners really put it to the Rams.
3:34They were doing some fun stuff with Juszczyk on motions where they would basically motion him sort of kind of into being a fullback.
3:42But he's on the move as the ball is being snapped.
3:45And then he would just open back up and they would do these really fast inserts.
3:50And what that does is it really, it kind of ups the pace that a defense has to react to you.
3:57Not only are you creating a new gap on the fly, but you're doing so at warp speed, right?
4:03And so it's really hard for linebackers to react to that.
4:07It's really hard for defensive linemen to react to that.
4:10And we almost saw like an immediate adjustment in week two of like, oh, okay, if we're going to be getting these inserts on the fly.
4:18Mike McDonald did this also in the NFC West against the Cardinals this week.
4:23And we see a very similar thing, right? We're motioning somebody into the backfield.
4:27He's not violating the rules technically because he's not going forward, but he is carrying that momentum as an insert.
4:34And what do we see the Seahawks do? They're in what's called a tight front here.
4:39So we've got the 4-I. We've got the 0-nose.
4:42We've got the 4-I. You have a bubble here between the right tackle and the tight end.
4:47That's where the insert is going to try to go on the fly.
4:52They want to get up to Witherspoon quickly. So what the Seahawks do is, okay, we're going to slant this 4-I into that gap.
4:59This insert is going at full speed, so he can't adjust and run off the inside hip of the tackle like what
5:06a normal fullback would do when starting from a static position because they have time to correct their angle.
5:12You have no time to correct your angle. So you're getting a 2-for-1 here.
5:17Witherspoon's blitzing. You get a run-through and pretty much a free tackle for loss.
5:21And so that's really the theme that we're seeing with some of these early down blitzes is, okay, if we're going to
5:29be getting these inserts fast, we're going to disrupt those by being aggressive as well.
5:33Because if we can't time it up, that means you can't time it up either.
5:38And now we just have a bunch of chaos at the line of scrimmage, which typically is going to be a win for the defense.
5:46And you talked about that chaos at the line of scrimmage.
5:50So here's some numbers that kind of back that up.
5:53When you look at the average width of a formation on offense in 2026, it's just 21.7 yards.
5:59Now, that used to be back in 2016. This is just an example.
6:032016, it was 28.1 yards. That means, okay, where are the furthest or widest offensive players?
6:08So an entire 7-plus yards inside where things sort of used to be, that shows that things aren't as spread out.
6:15They're getting more condensed and the rise in 12 personnel, more heavy personnel, more tight ends on the field.
6:21That also echoes that. So what if defense is done early on this season to combat that?
6:27You talked about blitzing. We'll talk about run blitzing and pass blitzing a little bit more in a second.
6:33But even those insert blitz that you mentioned, those little cheat code things that the offense can feel like they could do.
6:40Well, you get to neutralize that if you stack the line of scrimmage.
6:44Flores is the most famous example of this, but it's not just the Minnesota Vikings.
6:49Teams around the NFL are stacking the line of scrimmage and they're sending their guys.
6:54When you look at the five-man front percentage this year, it is 34%.
6:58Last year, it was 30.1. 4% of a jump is a massive jump in that category.
7:03And it has never been above 31%. Really, 30.6 is the highest that it was in 2022 since 2018.
7:09This year, we are seeing more five-man fronts than we have seen over the last eight years.
7:15So whatever you're trying to run with heavy personnel, whether you're getting an extra offensive lineman on the field in the form
7:22of an extra tight end, whether you have these fullbacks or these insert blocks, whatever, the defense is already ready.
7:28They already have their game plan. So it's a new-look philosophy, I think, for defenses to, like you mentioned at the top
7:35of the show, match aggression and creativity with aggression.
7:38Well, maybe this isn't creativity. Maybe it's just out-aggressing the creativity, honestly, what it feels like from defenses because the blitz rate
7:45is up, not just overall, but on early downs as well.
7:49When we think of blitzes, we're thinking of, oh, okay, you know, those obvious passing situations where they get a little bit
7:56more trigger-happy to send an extra guy. It's early down stuff, too.
8:00It's rumblesses. It's first and second downs. So you're able to do that when you're crowding that line of scrimmage a little bit more.
8:07So coming off of the peak spread offense era, when you started to see teams trickle in, getting more and more condensed.
8:14We saw the Rams do this a little bit more.
8:18They went from this outside zone rushing scheme to, okay, now they're a power rushing team.
8:23We're seeing teams that are adding more tight ends on the field, not just wide receivers.
8:28So they were trying to combat the fact that defenses were spread out to match their spread, and they were trying to get ahead of the curve.
8:37Now defenses are basically saying, wait a second, if you're just going to go condensed, we're going to go condensed, and then we don't have to guess anymore.
8:46If you're – like, we just get to attack the line of scrimmage.
8:50There's no, ooh, we're going to try to deceive that this guy is going to blitz you or not.
8:56He's already there. There are players already on the line of scrimmage.
9:00So it's a long way of saying that the more condensed offenses have been going over the last couple of years to
9:07say, hmm, now we've got the advantage over all these spread defenses.
9:11This year, for the first time since certainly 2018, they are more willing to stack the line of scrimmage to match the
9:18condensed sets and actually have an advantage with how aggressive they can get with more blitzes.
9:23Yeah, Theo Ash made a great point this week, friend of the show, Theo Ash.
9:28And he was talking about this Bears-Vikings matchup and how Ben Johnson, in terms of his success rate in the pass game
9:35as a play caller, on plays with motion is way lower against Flores than anybody else.
9:40Because a lot of the times when you're using motion, right, it's a formation indicator or rather a defensive structure indicator.
9:47Are we getting man? Are we getting zone? Vikings are in zone anyway.
9:51So you send a receiver across the formation. It's like, oh, it's zone.
9:55Congrats, buddy. You knew that. We were doing that.
9:58Anyway, you know what we're doing. Right. There's no deception here.
10:02Right. The deception is just which one of these eight guys in the line of scrimmage are we bringing?
10:08That's the part that you don't know. And you can't know.
10:11Short of having the greatest hard count in football history, you're not going to know who's coming and who's not.
10:18And so I think when you're looking at the league wide early down blitz rate trend, they're at 31.7%.
10:24That's early down blitzes, highest since at least 2018.
10:27And the fact that so many teams are just playing zone with those pressures and not really caring if you know that they're in zone.
10:35It's almost like simplicity through aggression, right? And it's it's you know what we're doing.
10:40We know that you know what we're doing. The question is, is your offensive line in sync enough to pick up whichever
10:47of these five or six guys that we're sending?
10:50Typically, the answer is going to be no, especially in September when nobody has reps.
10:55So, again, offenses becoming more condensed. I think that they did that to believe that they were getting ahead of the cycle, right?
11:02Because football is a cyclical thing. But I actually believe that even though there was a short period of time, like a
11:09year, two years, whatever it was, where they did have sort of this advantage over the last couple of years.
11:16Now the defenses are adjusting. Now that we are seeing five man fronts at a higher rate than ever, and it's the
11:23only time that we've seen a higher six man front rate is last year.
11:27So we know that that aggression is there from them as well.
11:31You are allowing defenses to stack that line of scrimmage and just go after you all the time.
11:37And I just feel as though in this cycle of football of, OK, it was really spread out and now it's more condensed.
11:44I think defenses are going to have more of the advantage because of how much they can run these multi-man fronts that
11:51are beyond four players on the line of scrimmage.
11:54I like this kind of party. I like this kind of party, baby.
11:58All right. It's so funny because before everything was spread out, it was condensed and it was 12 personnel, right?
12:05Like you remember that 2010 tight end draft, like Cronk, Jimmy Graham.
12:09Oh, yeah. Everybody was running 12 personnel because the Patriots were really good at it and they were tearing people apart.
12:15Like that 2011 Patriots offense was one of the best in modern NFL history.
12:20And it was a bunch of tight ends and slot receivers.
12:23Woohoo! I just blocked him, baby! So you had a bunch of teams around the league that were taking tight ends early.
12:31Like Kobe Fleener made a lot of money in the draft because of that trend of everybody just wanting two tight ends that played specific roles.
12:39You had your Y tight end. You had your move tight end.
12:43Everybody wanted a Wes Welker. Eventually Julian Edelman. Like everybody was trying to match those archetypes.
12:48Real ball knowers remember the Kobe Fleener, Dwayne Allen, one-two combination for the Indianapolis Colts.
12:53Just needed to shout that out because you shouted out Kobe Fleener.
12:57And real ball knowers know the intense debates between Kobe Fleener and Stephen Hill for which player to draft in the first round that year.
13:05Everybody had an opinion. Deep pull. But, you know, you saw everybody try to mimic that.
13:10But if you don't have Rob Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham or Greg Olson, it's not going to work.
13:16Right? Like it takes a unicorn type of tight end to do that.
13:20And so eventually, a few years later, you know, after defenses were responding to that and also playing really condensed, right?
13:27That was the Legion of Boom cover three era, which ironically teams run more cover three now than even back then.
13:33They just do it a different way. That's a topic for another show.
13:38Boom! A few years later, after like the Marcus Mariota Oregon revolution happened, you have Mariota coming in.
13:43You have Jared Goff coming in. He ran the air raid in college.
13:48Eventually, you had, you know, Patrick Mahomes coming in who ran the air raid in college.
13:53All these air raid Lincoln Riley, Cliff Kingsbury quarterbacks that we talked about in the season preview, they all came to the league.
14:00Everything spread out. Defenses eventually found their answer. Now everything's condensing.
14:04It's a 15-year cycle of just going up and down and up and down.
14:08Tight ends, yes. Tight ends, no. Spread, yes. Spread, no.
14:11Like we're just doing the same thing again that we did in like 2012.
14:16And this is sort of how football has always been, right?
14:19From the beginning. It's about offensive and defensive coordinators trying to find the advantage.
14:24And so for as long as football has existed, it's always been a little bit more of something, right?
14:30Okay, like here's the cycle of football is more of a power game between the tackles.
14:35I'm not trying to say that it's not. It obviously all starts up front no matter what.
14:41But you get more emphasis on sort of what's happening around the trenches and everything.
14:46And so everything's very condensed. It's this power profile and everything.
14:49And then offenses trying to push the envelope a little bit further out, further out, further out.
14:55And obviously in the 20, what was it? 2017, 2018, 2019 kind of era where we just see offenses more spread out than ever.
15:02You're putting more wide receivers, more speed on the field.
15:06Now we're having this next evolution of what the cycle is.
15:09But it also sort of depends on the types of players that are existing.
15:14Because the types of players and athleticism and size and skill sets, those things have also evolved as the game cycles through.
15:21And I just, I kind of feel as though in today's football with defensive players built the way that they are with the skill sets that they have.
15:30Inviting them and in some ways allowing them to play those five man fronts at a higher rate than ever.
15:36I just don't know if even some of these innovative condensed sets are going to combat what defenses are going to be able to do.
15:44So look, it's only two weeks. We're only two weeks into the season.
15:48But I feel as though this trend could be one of the defining trends of the entire season with how much defenses
15:55believe they can stack the line of scrimmage and just be aggressive given how condensed offenses want to be.
16:02We do want to talk about some of these marquee matchups that we have in week three.
16:07The first one that I want to talk about is Rams and Broncos.
16:11And there's a lot of interest in this one.
16:14But it's a good first game to preview because it also ties in a little bit to what we were just talking about.
16:22Pairing certain coverages with how aggressive you want to be.
16:25So look, both of these teams have the ability to suffocate you on defense but in a little bit of different ways.
16:32Brett, when you think about this game, where do you want to start sort of with our preview here?
16:38Both teams played a lot more man coverage in week two.
16:42Especially the Rams, right? They were a 44.1% man rate in week two.
16:46They were 16.7% in week one. We criticized them for bringing in two corners that can play man and not playing man.
16:53And obviously they weren't listening to us, but I think they saw the same thing we did.
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17:05No, I don't know if that's true or not.
17:08No, please nobody write that. But they did front a lot more man in week two.
17:13And it worked, by the way. Like, they were excellent.
17:17And while it is unfortunate, well, not beyond unfortunate, it's awful that Jackson Dart got hurt in the last game.
17:23This defense was playing so well on the back end, I still think it would have been tough for Giants receivers to get open, quite frankly.
17:31And also just the way that they paired that man coverage with pressure.
17:3666.7% of all their man coverage reps in this game, about two-thirds of it was paired with five-plus pass rushers going with the quarterback.
17:43Aggression and aggression. That's exactly what that is. You're playing tight coverage and you're hoping that you get home because you're just firing guys to the line scrimmage.
17:52And when you have Aaron Donald and Byron Young and Kobe Turner, like, yeah, you're going to get home because everybody has a one-on-one.
18:00And the windows are tight because you got McDuffie back there, Quentin Lake back there.
18:05This was the game plan that I feel like the Rams remembered.
18:09They have a lot of talent, so they should just let their talent be good.
18:14And they didn't do that in week one. It was a lot of zone, a lot of four-man rushes.
18:20It kind of felt like, oh, we have Miles Garrett, we'll win with four.
18:24It's like, well, Miles' knee isn't right, so you kind of can't get away with that.
18:29And they didn't have Aaron Donald on the field yet, obviously.
18:33And so they played very passively in week one.
18:36And meanwhile, the Niners were playing super aggressive on offense.
18:39And that aggression steamrolled them. They really course-corrected quickly of, okay, we're just going to be as aggressive as possible because we have guys and you don't.
18:48And we're the Rams and you're not. And it worked.
18:51They don't need to be worried about me. They don't need to worry about me at all.
18:56And it's interesting going up against Knicks specifically because in 2025, Knicks had a 0.17 EPA per dropback against man coverage.
19:03That was the seventh most amongst qualifying quarterbacks. So he was a top 10 quarterback in the NFL.
19:09But when you look at the last two weeks, now one year of a sample size is a, I would say, a
19:16much more stable sample size than two weeks. But it's worth monitoring through two weeks this season, negative 0.68 EPA per dropback
19:23for Knicks, which is the second fewest in the NFL.
19:26I believe Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback who has a lower EPA per dropback.
19:31By the way, if you're in Aaron Rodgers territory, that's not good this year.
19:36That's not good. And you know what? Normally, that would be quite the compliment to be in Aaron Rodgers area.
19:42But over the last couple of seasons, not quite the case, especially to start 2026.
19:47So I wonder what's going to mean more here.
19:50Is it going to be the Rams and how talented they are with how they run man coverage?
19:56Is it going to be how well Knicks played against man coverage in 2025?
20:00Or is it going to be a little bit more of, hey, it seems to be something that he is struggling with this year.
20:08And does it have to do with the fact that it is man coverage paired with pressure?
20:13The Broncos have already sort of tried to mitigate for that pressure.
20:17A lot of guys around the line of scrimmage, a lot of chaos around the line of scrimmage, because the design rollout
20:24rate for Bo Nix went from 6% in week one to 19.4% in week two.
20:29That was the third highest among starters last week.
20:32And overall this season, Nix has a 0.74 EPA per dropback, which is the second most this season on those design rollouts.
20:39So that's one way to sort of counter. Hey, we've got a lot of chaos that's crowding the line of scrimmage, but
20:46I'm just very curious to see how this plays out.
20:50Because a lot of times it's like, alright, week one, all sorts of stuff is going on.
20:55Week two, sometimes it's continuing what we saw in week one, sometimes it's totally different.
21:00Week three, we start to get into, okay, are these struggles real?
21:04Is this success real? Do we really start to see things moving forward?
21:08So how often are the Rams going to continue to play man coverage?
21:12Is Nix going to be good against it? And how much are they going to try to get him away from the
21:19pocket as maybe a way to mitigate a lot of that chaos and clutter that might be up at the line of scrimmage?
21:27Yeah, if you don't think you can keep him clean in the pocket, move the pocket.
21:32Like that's... Right, exactly. Exactly. Football 101, right? Exactly.
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23:52And if they really kind of go back to the Broncos' roots of wide zone, wide zone, wide zone, boot, wide zone,
23:59wide zone, wide zone, boot, like let's see if it works, right?
24:03Especially if you're getting that much man coverage. Well, those crossing routes off-boot tend to do well against man coverage, especially when
24:10you have Jalen Waddell or Cortland Sutton. I think that could be a worthy game plan for them.
24:15I kind of want to flip it over to the other side of things.
24:20You know, got a marquee matchup. Devontae coming off a remarkable game.
24:24Yes. Especially for a receiver his age. Like one of the best.
24:28Vintage. Vintage Devontae Adams game. That was 2019-2020 Devontae right there.
24:31Honestly, he doesn't look like he's slowed down. Not that he was ever like a true speedster back then anyway, but it
24:38feels like he just, he hasn't lost what steps he did have even back then.
24:43His skill set just ages so gracefully in the sense that he's a great technician, catches everything.
24:49And when you have, you know, the Giants blowing cover three, you can score off that as well.
24:54Or when you have safety stepping in the bucket and you give him a little nod and go, like he can still get it done.
25:02Hard part is going up against Pat Sertan, who he has faced a lot throughout his career, having spent time in the AFC West.
25:10Sertan has the third most matchups against him. And in particular, during their career matchups, he's matched up with Devontae Adams on 70 of 132 routes.
25:19That is 53%. So they will give him shadow duty against Devontae.
25:22Because as much as we like Riley Moss, if you're paying Pat Sertan that much money, you're going to put him on Devontae Adams.
25:30We're going to get our money's worth on that.
25:33And I don't think, that doesn't happen around the league as much as people think that it does.
25:39Like true shadow, like the old Darrell Revis style of, we're going to build our defense around one guy taking away one guy.
25:46It just doesn't happen very much in the league anymore.
25:49So for Sertan to have that sort of a rate, man, that just shows you the faith and trust that they have in his talent.
25:58That's really impressive. And, you know, they still target him.
26:01At least the Raiders still targeted Devontae a lot against Sertan.
26:04He had 22 targets against Sertan on those routes.
26:07Nobody else in the league has more than 12 career targets against Sertan.
26:11He has 13 receptions versus Sertan. DK is the only other one with more than six.
26:17He has nine. Adams has gained 172 yards against Sertan.
26:20DJ Moore is the only other one with more than a hundred over the life of his career.
26:26Right. And he is the only player in the entire NFL to score twice on Patrick Sertan.
26:31Nobody else has done it more than once. So not that he's like the Sertan kryptonite, because even those numbers aren't gaudy
26:38across four games, but he's the one that gets like success at all, which I would say is something to watch in this game.
26:46So what you're saying here, Brett, is may the most aggressive team win.
26:50Essentially, yeah. Devontae brings it in over the shoulder.
26:53For our next game, we'll talk about Ravens and Cowboys.
26:56Two teams that are one-on-one. Two teams that have championship game aspirations in both of their conferences.
27:02Brett, where do you want to start with this one?
27:05Because the Ravens looked unstoppable in week one, let down in week two.
27:09The Cowboys had a letdown in week one, looked unstoppable in week two, especially with how they ended the game there.
27:16And Dak Prescott will have thrown more touchdown passes than any Cowboys quarterback in a career ever.
27:21Where do you want to start with this preview?
27:24I kind of want to start with, you know, the Zay Flowers of it all.
27:29This team with and without Zay Flowers, again, two-week sample size, I understand.
27:33We're not going to get too crazy with it.
27:36But just watching the game, like even setting the data aside, which we do have the data, just watching the game, it's a different offense without Zay Flowers.
27:45Dude, I'm with you 100%. When you look at the, again, small sample size, it's one week and one week.
27:52But when you look at the on-off splits with Zay Flowers when he was out there in week one versus when he
27:59was not in week two, even when he was not out there in week one, the yards per attempt averages overall for the offense.
28:06It goes from 18.0 to 8.2. Insane. The success rate drops from 63.6 to 55.2.
28:11But then this is, to me, the most important one.
28:14The explosive play rate overall on the offense, it went from 54.5% in week one to 17.2% in week two.
28:21Again, small sample sizes. But to me, the big issue here and the thing worth talking about is not necessarily, oh, Zay Flowers is a good player.
28:30Who knew? We knew that already. The issue is the Ravens' depth chart with and without him.
28:35Because when you look at their receivers, they have Rashad Bateman.
28:39They have Elijah Surratt. They did have Jacoby Lane before his injury.
28:42They elevated veteran Chris Moore. Okay, they've got Devontez Walker.
28:46Who's the Zay Flowers replacement? They don't have one.
28:49There's not. They have LeJonte Wester who can sort of give you that same skill set.
28:54But that's what I'm saying. There's nobody to get those targets.
28:57So for some great receivers that may get hurt for a short period of time or go out of the game or
29:04whatever, you have somebody else who at least gives you that prototype of wide receiver that you can put in the game
29:11and say, we can still run our offense. Now, is this going to be as good as when we had our top guy in there?
29:20No. But we can still fundamentally run what we want to run schematically and from an emphasis of how we want to put pressure on the defense.
29:28Without Zay Flowers, the entire passing attack changes. They got Mark Andrews a lot more involved.
29:33Obviously, they're leaning more heavily into Rashad Bateman, but we knew that that was going to happen.
29:39But then it's like, okay, who's next? And even fundamentally getting Mark Andrews more involved with him a little bit long in
29:46the tooth here as a veteran tight end. I mean, he's not the same Mark Andrews that he was a couple of years ago.
29:54So the pivot to a totally different offense that is not only less explosive because you don't have as talented of a
30:01player out there, but also because you don't have that replacement skill set, that worries me about the Baltimore Ravens.
30:07Now, as of us doing this show, it looks like that Zay Flowers is going to be back out there.
30:14But this is something to monitor as things go on here in a long NFL season is, are the Ravens, are they
30:21just completely derailed on offense, even with Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry, if they don't have Zay Flowers out there?
30:27It's worth sort of monitoring, I think, as this year goes on.
30:31The splits that you're talking about, I think, just kind of highlight how much of a knife's edge a lot of these
30:38teams are on because not a whole lot of teams have two Zay Flowers, let alone one Zay Flowers.
30:44But, you know, one of the teams that you could argue has two receivers that might be even better than Zay are the Cowboys.
30:52And so they're one of the few teams that I think could withstand that kind of injury.
30:57The Ravens are part of the vast majority of the league where, you know, you lose your number one receiver and your offense looks very different.
31:06The Cowboys, they have two number one receivers. So they're a little bit more insulated than 95% of the rest of the league.
31:13And that's probably a good transition to talk about this Cowboys offense because, goodness gracious.
31:18Yeah! They've had 15 drives so far this season.
31:21Keep in mind that the Raiders had 13 drives just last week alone.
31:25Cowboys have had 15 the entire year. They've scored on 10 of them.
31:29They punted once the entire game. Like they had eight possessions last week.
31:34They had 37 points. This offense is bananas. And it's largely because you can have a George Pickens game.
31:40You can have a CeeDee Lamb game. No matter what, as long as you're having a Dak game, you're good.
31:46Because you have two top 15 receivers in the league that can go off at any point.
31:52And Dak is just playing out of his mind.
31:54Like this is a, this is kind of a normal Dak season now.
31:59Which sounds like faint praise. It's not. I'm saying that Dak, this is just what he is.
32:04When he is at his best, he is damn near unstoppable.
32:08Some of the throws that he made in the fourth quarter last week were unbelievable.
32:12Like far hash hole shots to CeeDee Lamb. And CeeDee went nuclear.
32:16Which I know some people were concerned of like, okay, is George taking over the number one because of the season he had last year?
32:24Nope. They just have two number ones. If you're looking at Dak and CeeDee into the boundary last week, eight of nine for a buck 53.
32:33Fourth most in a game this season. And two touchdowns.
32:36If you're looking at Dak total on vertical routes in week two.
32:40Four or five for 107. Two touchdowns. Three total TDs this season on vertical routes.
32:45Fifth most in the league. Five throws getting over 100 yards.
32:48It's just unfathomable numbers. This offense is so deadly when they're going vertical.
32:52Because when you have a quarterback like that, and when you have receivers like that, even when the defense is playing shaky,
33:00the fact that you can still put up 37 points in eight drives, nobody else can do that.
33:05I mean, literally. Right. Nobody else can do that.
33:08So, okay, if you want to play the low possession count game, that's fine.
33:13We'll beat you doing that because we're going to score more than you.
33:17All day, brother. All day. Love you. Got your back.
33:20You already know it. I'm very curious to see how the Ravens continue to use Kyle Hamilton.
33:26Because we've got some numbers from NGS here of how Kyle Hamilton has been used so far this season.
33:32Their all-star do-it-all defensive chess piece. 4.0 yards deep from the line of scrimmage.
33:36That's the fewest in his career. Which means he's been lining up more at the second level than he has even in the slot or deep at safety.
33:45He just has 11 snaps of safety this year, which is 9.5%.
33:49That's the lowest in his career. He's got 20.7% of his snaps at the line of scrimmage.
33:55Highest in his career. 36.2 snaps at linebacker. Again, highest in his career.
33:59And then overall, 56.9% of his snaps in the box.
34:02Once again, highest rate of his career. So it kind of goes back to how we introed the show.
34:08Our team's just really trying to crowd that line of scrimmage with chaos.
34:12Now, there's some logic to why, even outside of that trend, Kyle Hamilton might be put in that spot.
34:18This team signed Jalen Hawkins. They drafted Malachi Starks.
34:21They may think, oh, we're good at safety. Let's use Kyle Hamilton elsewhere.
34:26But I think that it leans into being more aggressive at the line of scrimmage.
34:30And having that sort of agent of chaos in Kyle Hamilton closer to the box, closer to the line of scrimmage.
34:37You never know. Is he blitzing? Is he in man coverage?
34:41Is he dropping? What's he doing? I think that that five-man front philosophy, that crowd the line of scrimmage philosophy, only gets
34:48more and more daunting for quarterbacks when you have a player like Kyle Hamilton who is sitting right there.
34:54So that chess match between Dak and Kyle Hamilton this week, I'm very much looking forward to see how that plays out.
35:01You need a dance. You have some turf above your left eye.
35:05Right here. Blowing. Blowing. Let's talk about the Raiders and Saints.
35:08To give some love to the Raiders and the Saints here.
35:12Saints we've talked about quite a bit. Kyle Shuck's been fantastic so far this season, especially under pressure and especially in the vertical passing game.
35:20But the Raiders, also 2-0. And I feel like we haven't talked about the Raiders as much as maybe we should.
35:27The comment section reminded us of that last week.
35:30They do. Hey, look. Raiders fans haven't been 2-0 in a long time and they want somebody to talk about their team.
35:37So, Brett, how do you feel about this one?
35:40Where do you want to start with this game?
35:43So, one of the only good things the Raiders had going for them last year was they had a very good run defense.
35:50It didn't look that way because of volume stats.
35:53But if you're looking at carry to carry, you know, efficiency-wise from carry to carry, they were really good.
35:59Right? Their yards before contact allowed per attempt last year.
36:02It's a mouthful. 0.9 yards. So, basically, running backs were getting less than a yard before getting hit against them last year on every single carry.
36:11That was the best in the NFL. It's just when teams are running it against them, I don't know, 35 times a game because they're in the lead.
36:20Yeah, the volume stats are going to add up.
36:22This year, it's still 0.9 yards before contact per attempt.
36:26They have a 34% success rate allowed against the run this year.
36:30That's sixth best. They are negative 19.5 EPA allowed on the ground and negative 0.39 EPA per carry allowed this season.
36:36And both best in the NFL among all run defenses.
36:40So, this team can really stop the run. I know Omarion had good volume stats last week.
36:45But if you're looking at total touches Omarion Hampton had, that kind of explains why he had the numbers he did.
36:52They were feeding him and feeding him and feeding him and added up over time.
36:57But this team makes run games inefficient. And, you know, when you have, you know, the Saints already taking on injuries in
37:04their offensive line going against a very good Raiders run defense.
37:07I worry about their ability to stay ahead of the sticks and at least make third downs manageable.
37:13And then you get into third and long and you got Max Crosby against a backup left tackle.
37:19Things could go sideways pretty quick here. And it's so night and day from what it was last year.
37:25Specifically, the fact that I'm just watching this defense.
37:28And do the Raiders have the most talented defense in the NFL?
37:32No. I don't think that anybody's going to sit here and say that the Raiders have, you know, the best defense in
37:39the NFL or even a top five defense. But are they a lot better than what they were last year?
37:45Yes. And that is while getting a lot of really important snaps from rookies, from young guys.
37:51And yet, Rob Leonard, their defense coordinator, and probably just, honestly, top down, John Spitek, their general manager.
37:57Clint Kubiak, their new head coach. Like, there's so much confidence in all of these guys that are playing.
38:03And you see that on defense. Trayden Stukes was a standout at safety for them in week one.
38:08But Hezekiah Massis, my guy. Somebody who I had as a top 100 player on my big board.
38:14I thought there was no way he should have lasted until the fifth round.
38:19He is such a great early success story for the Raiders.
38:22Because this is what happens when you have a cohesive vision between your front office and who is doing the scouting and
38:29drafting of these players and what the defense wants.
38:32Hezekiah Massis, cornerback out of Cal. What was he best at when he was at Cal?
38:37Off coverage rolls. Cover three step. Quarters. When he could sit off the line of scrimmage and really read quarterbacks and just bait those throws.
38:45Sit and manage space very, very well. That's when he was at his biggest impact in college.
38:51The Raiders run zone second most in the NFL this year.
38:55And when I watched Hezekiah Massis, who had one of the best games of any defensive player last week.
39:01Or I should say one of the most impactful games.
39:04Because you go back and you watch some of the snaps and there's still a lot of rookie plays that are out
39:11there where, okay, he needs to handle this a little bit better.
39:15He needs to be a little bit stronger in run defense when he's taking on a block.
39:20But you see him fire downfield in run defense.
39:23And even though he got got on some run defense plays, he also had some serious run stops.
39:29And Brett, I'll take you back to my scouting report that I had for him pre-draft.
39:34One of the things that I noted is has to play stronger and with more fire in run defense.
39:40He had a missed tackle rate above 25 in each of the last two seasons that he played college ball.
39:47But this year, even though, again, it's not perfect, the confidence he has.
39:51Yeah, he's about it. Dude, and the same thing with Trayden Stooks the week before.
39:56So you're playing this Raiders. Again, is it the best defense in the NFL?
40:00No, but they're playing with so much confidence. That's when you get the results here.
40:05You are identifying players' strengths. You are identifying their weaknesses.
40:08You are putting them in a position to succeed with those strengths more often.
40:13And then when it comes to those weakness points, you're making sure that they're playing with as much confidence as possible.
40:20That's what Hezekiah Massis was this past week. And it's an encapsulation, in my opinion, early on of how different this Raiders
40:27organization feels this year versus last year. The confidence is those young guys are playing with.
40:32How do you change the place? You do something they say you can't.
40:36You guys did something they said you can't. Seven point dogs.
40:40So seeing all that, there is a non-zero chance that one of these young Raiders DBs gets their hands on the ball in this game.
40:48And that did happen to Tyler Shuck in week one.
40:51He threw two picks in the first half against Detroit.
40:54And they were both against zone coverage, by the way.
40:57And they were both against zone coverage. Yes, they were.
41:00Yes, that has been something that we've talked about with him.
41:04Even though he was better against zone last week, it is something we're going to have to keep an eye on.
41:11But, you know, Dimitri, who's on the team with us here at NFL Pro, he happened to be a former teammate of Tyler Shuck at Texas Tech.
41:19And we were talking through it with the meeting about how well Shuck was able to bounce back from those picks.
41:26How well he's played in these second halves of games so far.
41:30And even, you know, late last season, like he faced some early adversity.
41:34Got really hot late in the year. He's tried to, you know, carry that over this season.
41:40And something Dimitri brought up is just how resilient he is, right?
41:44And how even when he fails, he's so good at kind of just flushing it, moving on to the next play.
41:50And he has supreme confidence and he has belief in himself.
41:54And that really is a necessary skill set to have as a quarterback.
41:58Because there are some guys, you know, they throw two picks in the first half.
42:03You're down 21-0. You just go completely in the tank.
42:06And you can see it just based on body language.
42:09Like, wow, we didn't win this game. We'll move on to next week.
42:14Whereas, you know, Tyler Shuck is like, 21 points in the second half?
42:18Yeah, I can close that gap. And he did.
42:21No, we're good. Right? And, you know, Dimitri compared it to Josh Allen, which I found interesting.
42:26Because Shuck got fired up last week by an opposing coach referring to him as a poor man's Josh Allen.
42:33He reminds me a little bit of like a poor man's Josh Allen.
42:37Has all the arm talent in the world. Can run.
42:40Right? I don't think he gets enough credit for how good an athlete he is.
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44:58And then the entire week, everybody in the Saints building was just calling him poor man over and over and over again
45:05and just really getting under his skin. You don't say the Josh Allen part.
45:09Because honestly, I thought that that quote was hilarious.
45:12Because if you're called a poor man's Josh Allen in your second year in the NFL, that's a genuine compliment.
45:18That is a genuine compliment. But by just calling him poor man all week and leaving out the Josh Allen part, that's
45:26when he's just, you know, he's the LeBron Miami Heat meme where he's like, all right, okay.
45:31Can I get like an upper middle class Josh Allen?
45:34But he played really, really well. You know, I think part of it is mentality.
45:39Maybe I'll use Eli. Eli Manning is like a better example.
45:43Like anytime Eli made a mistake, I don't want to say he didn't care, but he didn't let it affect him.
45:49He was always just coming out firing and having belief.
45:53Okay, I can make this tight window throw. I'm not going to second guess myself because the second you stop shooting is
46:00the second you stop scoring and then the defense wins.
46:03And I just really respect the hell out of Tyler Shuck for having that mentality and not letting those early picks get to him.
46:11It's very possible the Raiders get him once, maybe even twice in this game.
46:15But I still think as long as he's there and as long as he has all those vertical threats, the Saints are never entirely out of a game.
46:24We've already seen that this season, that that's not the case.
46:28I mean, we saw it on the road in Baltimore on week two.
46:32What that does for morale and confidence to know that you are never out of it because sure, like a quarterback's mentality is really, really, really important.
46:41But let's face it, like everybody has to believe that you're going to come back.
46:45Everybody on offense, everybody on defense, all of that, man.
46:49And I just, I feel as though when the quarterback will show you what he's capable of, it just permeates with confidence
46:56throughout the entire rest of the roster. When you look at Shuck in the first half and then the second half slash
47:03overtime, we'll throw overtime in there as well. Over the last two weeks, first half, 0.29 EPA per dropback, which is the
47:10sixth fewest in the NFL, but in the second half and overtime, plus 0.26 EPA per dropback, which is the 10th most.
47:17So when this man's back is against the wall, when they need Captain Clutch, when they need somebody to lead them on
47:24a comeback here, he is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL through two weeks into the season.
47:30So to me, just it's such a difference maker.
47:33Again, when you have a player that can instill this kind of confidence and you've seen it a couple of times from
47:40him already in his career, that never say die mentality.
47:43And how that goes to the rest of the team, extremely powerful stuff.
47:47When you talk about a long NFL season against some really, really good teams that you're going to face.
47:53Now, Saints and Raiders fans both wanted us to talk about them.
47:57Be careful what you wish for. Anytime I start praising a team, they start doing poorly.
48:02So if they lose this week, it's on you.
48:05The Coleman curse. But hold on, hold on though.
48:08You talked about both teams. So if they tie this week, we have to.
48:13We'll see you next week's intro next week's show with the Coleman curse being just an insane force of universal properties here if they tie in this game.
48:22We could do a super cut over the last five years of every time I praise a team and they immediately lose.
48:29So you ask for it, guys. The last thing that we want to talk about here on this episode of NFL Pro is the importance of backup quarterbacks.
48:38We're talking about a lot of trends that we're seeing early on in the season.
48:43But Brett, I feel like you pointed this out or somebody on the NGS team pointed this out.
48:49How much teams have relied on backup quarterbacks already?
48:51And through two weeks of the season, we've already seen 41 quarterbacks play in the regular season.
48:57Just for those keeping score at home, there's only 32 NFL teams.
49:01And we've already had 41 quarterbacks play through two weeks of the regular season, which I think lends itself to a bigger conversation.
49:08I'm not just like, oh man, a lot is sort of up in the air when these quarterbacks go out.
49:15But the importance of backup quarterbacks and acting that we're seeing that early on in the season.
49:20And especially backup quarterbacks that don't make you change your offense.
49:24Yes. Are they still capable of running the same plays that are your bread and butter?
49:29Right? Look at Drew Locke. Drew Locke can make the throws that Sam Darnold can make.
49:34Now, I think Sam Darnold will make them with more regularity.
49:37But Drew's out there spinning it. Like, Locktober came early this year, I would say.
49:42Like, he's been great. Because you don't have to shrink the playbook.
49:46You know, going from Caleb Williams to, if he doesn't play this week, to potentially Case Keenum, that's a different playbook.
49:53Right? It's a different conference. Even going from Caleb to Bajit, you call it different stuff.
49:58Going from Darnold to Locke, it preserves what your offensive identity is.
50:02You know, going from Kyler to Wentz, I don't necessarily think that shrinks the playbook.
50:07Now, will Kyler execute it with more regularity? Maybe.
50:10But at least you're fundamentally still preserving the offense.
50:13The Jackson Dart to Jameis drop-off, I think the playbook does change a little bit, especially with how mobile Dart is.
50:19You know, I think going from Jaden to Marcus Mariota, roughly the same.
50:24But Jaden's obviously more dynamic. Yeah, but to your point, it's the same skill set that's there.
50:29Yeah, you're just not going to intentionally run Mariota at this age.
50:33Right. Which, by the way, 10 years later? Jameis and Marcus starting games?
50:37Let's go. We got there somehow. Longevity, folks! The Bucks!
50:40The Bucks and the Titans! They knew all along that these guys are going to be in the league.
50:46No, but I think that you bring up a good point.
50:50And there was actually a transaction earlier this week that happened with Will Levis signing on the Jets practice squad.
50:56That I think he's a perfect example of sometimes people go, well, hold on.
51:01How does somebody with all the tools in the world like Will Levis, how is he not picked up immediately just as a flyer quarterback?
51:09And I think the reason why is because the most important part about having a backup quarterback is having somebody that you trust.
51:16Or at least, that's how I would fundamentally view it.
51:20In a perfect world, I'd love to have three spots for quarterbacks.
51:23One is your starting quarterback. Two is a backup that you know can give you the chance to win football games, the
51:31chance to win football games for a two to four week span.
51:34Right? Like a short-term reliever type of quarterback if your starting quarterback has a high ankle sprain or something like that.
51:41And then ideally, you'd love to have a younger, higher ceiling type of quarterback that you have as sort of your QB3,
51:48whether it's on the practice squad or you've actually got it on the 53-man roster.
51:53But that middle player, that short-term reliever is so, so important.
51:57And I think that that player often gets overlooked by some fans who just want sort of the flashy, high-ceiling, younger quarterback.
52:04You need that guy. You need dependability to be able to come in and sort of steady the ship for you for
52:11a week or two or maybe even a month while your starting quarterback is down.
52:16So when I go to that wedding Halloween week in Vermont, who's my backup that you're going to bring in that you can execute the same show?
52:24Remember, Connor's watching. Brother. No pressure. In the very first show that we did, you brought up people.
52:30What position was it? Somebody's getting Timothy Mozgov money?
52:33Who else is doing that? I don't know. Who's the replacement there?
52:37I don't know. At that point, I'm just getting a young hot shot to come in and I'm just throwing it deep.
52:44I don't think I can find anybody that's going to be able to give me that sort of comp.
52:50So you'd have to give me a while to think about that one.
52:54Can we get Danny Kelly on loaner for a week?
52:58Just with the creative comps. Yes, yes. Thank you for listening to our week three preview podcast.
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