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Becoming a Best Ball Bro: A Unique Way to Stack?

STACKED extracted the fantasy-relevant player signal from this podcast and kept the full transcript here for context.

1 hr 22 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Jul 22, 2026
Published
Wed, July 22, 2026
197
Player insights
73
Players mentioned
Topics
Brock BowersZay FlowersJonah ColemanJustin HerbertLuther BurdenBrock PurdyBaker MayfieldBryce YoungC.J. StroudChris GodwinColston LovelandDavante AdamsDylan SampsonGarrett Wilson
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Antonio Gibson

PositiveValue33:07

JJ Zachariason highlighted Gibson as an example of a late-round running back (18th round pick) who won a role and moved up significantly in draft value, rising from an 18th round pick to approximately a 10th round pick. Zachariason uses Gibson as a model for his best ball strategy of loading up on late-round running backs in the 13th-18th round range, as some of these late guys can hit when roles open up due to injury or opportunity.

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Ashton Jeanty

NegativeProjection23:00

Zachariason is bullish on Ashton Jeanty's volume potential in the Las Vegas offense under Clint Kubiak with a rookie QB upgrade over Gino Smith; he expects Jeanty to at minimum meet ADP through volume, but could be a top-three running back in fantasy if the offense performs better than expected; Jeanty was second-worst in yards before contact per attempt last year (only Quinshon Judkins worse), but the offensive line is getting significant upgrades through injury return and free agency, so Zachariason is not worried about last year's efficiency; volume is the key focus, not yards per carry.

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PositiveProjection24:00

JJ Zachariason projects Ashton Jeanty as a potential top-three running back in fantasy if the Las Vegas offense performs better than expected. Zachariason emphasizes volume over efficiency, noting Jeanty was second-worst in yards before contact per attempt last year but expects the offensive line improvements and Clint Kubiak's system to provide sufficient volume to meet ADP at minimum, with upside for elite production. Zachariason is not concerned about last year's efficiency given the lack of correlation between year-one yards per carry and future performance.

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Baker Mayfield

PositiveValue45:28

Baker Mayfield is going later than he did in the prior two years and is Zachariason's number-one target if he misses in the QB window; despite playing through injury with a hurt offensive line and injured receivers, Mayfield is undervalued because focus remains on last year's team issues rather than his individual performance and the presence of Mike Evans, Godwin, and McMillan.

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PositiveValue45:28

Baker Mayfield is going later than he did the previous two years and is JJ Zachariason's number-one target if he misses in the quarterback window; Zachariason likes Mayfield despite last year's team injuries (offensive line, receivers) and Mike Evans' departure, noting that Godwin and McMillan remain strong supporting cast pieces, and Mayfield played through injury when most would have gone on IR.

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PositiveValue47:22

JJ Zachariason expresses a preference for Baker Mayfield as one of the few late-round quarterbacks worth targeting in best ball, grouping him with Jordan Love and Malik Willis as the only quarterbacks he wants exposure to in 18-20 round formats.

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PositiveValue47:42

JJ Zachariason indicates he likes Baker Mayfield as a late-round quarterback option in best ball drafts, suggesting Mayfield has appeal as a value pick.

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Bo Nix

PositiveProjection51:52

JJ Zachariason argues Bo Nix can be included in the viable quarterback range extending down from Lamar Jackson, suggesting he offers fantasy value despite being a rookie or less-proven option.

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NegativeValue52:12

Bo Nix is mentioned as a viable mid-round quarterback option that can be argued into the best ball stacking range, extending the tier of approximately 12 quarterbacks from Lamar down through Kyler.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeRole9:35

JJ Zachariason uses Brian Thomas as an example to illustrate that disliking one receiver doesn't mean you have to dislike another—specifically, being high on Parker Washington doesn't require hating Brian Thomas. He emphasizes that each draft represents a unique outcome scenario, and multiple receivers can have value in different draft contexts.

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NegativeRole10:00

Zachariason addresses the false dichotomy that liking Luther Burden means you have to hate Brian Thomas; he argues that in individual drafts, you're making a bet on one player's outcome in that specific season, not making a zero-sum choice between two receivers.

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Brock Bowers

NegativeProjection24:00

JJ Zachariason notes Brock Bowers is currently at approximately 13% in his draft targets, positioning him as the primary weapon in the Las Vegas offense alongside Ashton Jeanty.

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PositiveValue24:00

Zachariason notes Brock Bowers is at approximately 13% exposure in his best-ball portfolio; he's the only significant weapon outside of Jeanty in the Las Vegas offense, which supports the volume thesis for Jeanty.

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PositiveValue42:00

Todd Burroughs wants at least 20% exposure to Brock Bowers this year in best ball; he's the primary tight end target for Burroughs, though he acknowledges that 20% exposure means he has 80% of other tight ends in his portfolio.

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PositiveValue53:18

Brock Bowers is used as an example of a second-round tight end target in best ball; Zachariason notes that if he takes Bowers in the second round and secures two quarterbacks, he no longer needs to think about the quarterback position for the rest of the draft.

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PositiveValue53:21

JJ Zachariason uses Brock Bowers in the second round as an example of securing elite talent early, then pairing him with two quarterbacks (one in the fifth, one in the eighth) to create a coherent best-ball stack that simplifies the rest of the draft by allowing cherry-picking of value plays.

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PositiveValue53:53

JJ Zachariason uses Brock Bowers as an example of a second-round anchor pick that, when paired with two quarterbacks in the fifth and eighth rounds, creates a complete stack that simplifies the rest of the draft. Bowers' early-round value allows for flexible value-based picking thereafter.

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PositiveProjection72:26

JJ Zachariason's bold take is that Brock Bowers leads the NFL in receptions, positioning him as a high-volume pass-catcher with elite target upside.

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PositiveProjection72:26

JJ Zachariason's bold take: Brock Bowers leads the NFL in receptions. This is framed as a fire take offered at the end of the conversation, indicating conviction in Bowers' target volume and role.

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Brock Purdy

NegativeRole38:00

Brock Purdy is used as an example of a quarterback that can be stacked with a backup running back (Jordan James) in the 20th round without additional cost, as part of Burroughs' strategy to trick the pods with backup running back stacking.

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PositiveValue38:11

Brock Purdy is part of JJ Zachariason's six-to-eight quarterback tier that is cheaper than historical levels in best ball; Zachariason loves Purdy as a value target and uses him as an example of a round-10 quarterback that should be taken over running backs with marginal opportunity cost, especially when CJ Stroud is going around the same area.

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PositiveValue45:05

Brock Purdy is available at a discount in round 10 and represents elite QB value; Zachariason loves the dart and targets him as part of a 6–8 QB group available cheaper than prior years, and he uses Purdy as a specific example of a QB that should be taken in round 10 over running backs with marginal opportunity.

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NegativeValue47:05

JJ Zachariason argues against taking Brock Purdy in round 10 when CJ Stroud is available around that same draft position, citing that the San Francisco running backs are just okay and the opportunity cost is not significant enough to justify the quarterback selection.

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NegativeValue47:05

JJ Zachariason argues against taking Brock Purdy in round 10 when CJ Stroud is available around that same area, noting that the San Francisco running backs are just okay, making the opportunity cost not significant enough to justify the quarterback selection.

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Bryce Young

NegativeProjection50:00

JJ Zachariason does not believe Bryce Young will win him anything in fantasy football, citing multiple seasons of data showing poor performance in the Panthers offense; Young represents a floor-based quarterback option that lacks upside.

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NegativeProjection50:00

JJ Zachariason does not believe Bryce Young has the upside to win fantasy football games, noting that even if he becomes the top available quarterback late in a draft, he would not be a compelling selection; he contrasts this with Ward, who at least has some mystique despite limited data.

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NegativeProjection50:30

JJ Zachariason characterizes Bryce Young as generally too inconsistent; while he can have good weeks, he's unlikely to meaningfully help advance rate in best ball formats. Young has multiple seasons of data in this offense, removing any mystique around his potential.

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NegativeProjection50:30

JJ Zachariason characterizes Bryce Young as generally too inconsistent; while he can have good weeks, he's unlikely to meaningfully help advance rate in best ball formats. Young has multiple seasons of data in his current offense, lacking the upside mystique of less-proven alternatives like Jaylen Ward.

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C.J. Stroud

NegativeValue46:37

CJ Stroud is going around round 10, the same area where Brock Purdy is available; JJ Zachariason uses Stroud as a reference point to illustrate that taking Purdy at that spot is preferable given the marginal opportunity cost of running backs in that round.

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NegativeValue46:37

CJ Stroud is going around the same area as Brock Purdy (round 10), but Zachariason prefers Purdy at that spot because running back opportunity is not significant enough to justify passing on elite QB talent in that window.

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PositiveValue47:05

CJ Stroud is positioned as a superior alternative to Brock Purdy in round 10 best ball drafts, with better opportunity cost relative to the available running back options.

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PositiveValue47:05

CJ Stroud is positioned as a superior alternative to Brock Purdy in round 10 best ball drafts, with JJ Zachariason suggesting Stroud's value is better given the weakness of the San Francisco running back room.

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Chris Godwin

PositiveRole45:46

Chris Godwin remains with the Buccaneers and is part of JJ Zachariason's rationale for liking Baker Mayfield; Godwin is cited as a strong supporting cast piece that mitigates the loss of Mike Evans.

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PositiveRole45:46

Chris Godwin remains with the Buccaneers as part of Baker Mayfield's receiving corps; Zachariason includes him as a key weapon supporting Mayfield's value, though he does not like Godwin as much as his ADP suggests.

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PositiveBreakout65:58

Zachariason believes Chris Godwin has a much better chance than Mike Evans of being a strong contributor alongside Jamie Jalen McMillan in the Buccaneers passing game; he groups these three as potentially strong together despite Evans' high ADP.

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PositiveValue76:48

JJ Zachariason believes Chris Godwin has a better chance of being productive than Mike Evans, suggesting Godwin and Jalen McMillan could both end up being pretty good together in the Buccaneers offense.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeValue75:05

JJ Zachariason is not that high on CMC at his current ADP in best ball, preferring to pivot to other options like Ashton Gentry or Saquon Barkley.

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Chuba Hubbard

PositiveValue71:55

JJ Zachariason used a fading strategy with Chuba Hubbard last year: he was fading Chuba and naturally gravitated toward backup Rico (Fuentes), which paid off when Rico became relevant. This exemplifies his best-ball stacking philosophy of taking the backup when you're down on the lead back.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveValue0:10

JJ Zachariason is willing to take Loveland at the end of round four or middle round four in best ball drafts, viewing him as a viable target in that range despite ambiguous role clarity; the approach reflects probabilistic thinking rather than handcuffing to a specific outcome.

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PositiveValue9:24

JJ Zachariason notes that Colston Loveland is going as high as expected in drafts, indicating market demand for pieces of the Chicago offense. This supports his thesis that interest in the Bears' playmakers is genuine rather than hype.

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PositiveValue9:45

Zachariason notes that Colson Loveland is going as high as Roma Dunze in drafts, indicating strong market demand for Chicago offensive pieces; this supports the thesis that the Bears offense is generating legitimate fantasy interest beyond hype.

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PositiveValue10:37

JJ Zachariason is willing to take Loveland at the end of round four or middle round four in best ball drafts, viewing him as a viable target when he falls to that range; this represents a positive valuation stance in the context of draft strategy and positional scarcity.

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Courtland Sutton

NegativeValue48:00

Cortland Sutton is cited as an example of a wide receiver being drafted in the late seventh to mid-eighth round on DraftKings, competing with quarterback selections like Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence; JJ Zachariason notes these are players that don't generate excitement and suggests waiting for later-round alternatives.

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NegativeValue48:00

Cortland Sutton is cited as a wide receiver option in the late seventh to mid-eighth round on DraftKings that competes with quarterback selections like Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence; JJ Zachariason notes that Sutton may or may not excite drafters, making him a marginal value choice.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeBust6:30

Zachariason expresses caution on DJ Moore despite understanding the real-life fit in Chicago's offense; he notes that Moore has six, seven, or eight relatively predictive metrics all saying not to draft him, which is a stronger red flag than Luther Burden's single low PPG metric.

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NegativeBust6:56

JJ Zachariason expresses caution about DJ Moore, noting that while he understands the real-life fit, multiple predictive metrics suggest avoiding the pick. He contrasts Moore's profile unfavorably with Luther Burden's, where Burden has strong per-route efficiency despite low rookie PPG, whereas Moore appears to have multiple concerning metrics.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveValue33:37

JJ Zachariason includes D'Andre Swift in the secondary running back tier (alongside Tootin and Henderson) as a target in the 10th-12th round range, positioning him as a value option after securing a hero running back in his best ball strategy.

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Dak Prescott

PositiveValue51:32

JJ Zachariason identifies Dak Prescott as a preferred quarterback stack pairing with Dallas wide receivers in best ball formats, noting there are enough quality options in that draft range.

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PositiveValue51:32

JJ Zachariason identifies Dak Prescott as a natural back-stack pairing when one of the Dallas wide receivers is selected. Prescott is part of a deep quarterback pool offering good value in the fifth-to-eighth round range.

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PositiveValue51:52

Dak Prescott is a stacking target in best ball when paired with Dallas wide receivers; Zachariason identifies him as part of a coherent mid-round quarterback strategy where one of the 12 viable quarterbacks in the range can be paired with their respective pass catchers.

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Darnell Mooney

NegativeValue52:22

JJ Zachariason pairs Darnell Mooney with Isaiah Likely as a back-stack option in the fifth-to-eighth round range. While not ideal, the pairing is perfectly reasonable for generating points without a true number one receiver.

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NegativeValue52:26

Darnell Mooney is used as an example of a complementary wide receiver in a back-stack with Isaiah Likely and Jackson Dart; Zachariason notes the pairing is not optimal but perfectly reasonable and can score points without a true number-one receiver.

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Darrell Henderson

PositiveValue33:37

JJ Zachariason includes Darrell Henderson in the secondary running back tier (alongside Swift and Tootin) as a target in the 10th-12th round range, positioning him as a value option after securing a hero running back in his best ball strategy.

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Davante Adams

NegativeBust1:19

JJ Zachariason references drafting Devante Adams as part of a disappointing draft experience, grouping him with Puka Nakua and Matthew Stafford as regrettable picks that made his draft feel worse than dealing with a broken air conditioner.

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NegativeBust1:19

JJ Zachariason references drafting Devante Adams as a regrettable experience, comparing it unfavorably to other poor draft decisions and suggesting the pick did not work out as hoped.

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NegativeBust66:08

Zachariason fades DeVante Adams despite his ADP falling, citing age concerns and the fact that his 2024 production was propped up by 18 touchdowns—an unsustainable rate. While Adams could repeat the performance, Zachariason would have preferred to see him fall further in best ball ADP.

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NegativeBust77:00

JJ Zachariason is fading DeVante Adams, noting that while his ADP has fallen, he is getting up there in age and was propped up by 18 touchdowns last season—an unsustainable level; Zachariason would have liked to see Adams fall even further in ADP.

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Demond Claiborne

PositiveValue40:40

DeMond Claiborne is mentioned as one of the other late running backs Burroughs likes, though not as much as Ray Davis; he's part of Burroughs' strategy to mix up late-round running back exposure and not get locked into one player.

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PositiveBreakout72:17

JJ Zachariason's bold take: one of Jonah Coleman or DeMond Claiborne will work into the lead-back role to start the season, and one of them ends up being the lead back going down the stretch. This suggests Claiborne has breakout potential if he wins the early-season role competition.

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PositiveBreakout72:32

JJ Zachariason's bold take includes DeMond Claiborne as one of two running backs (alongside Jonah Coleman) who could work into the lead role to start the season and end up as the lead back going down the stretch, suggesting significant upside if the primary back falters.

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Denzel Boston

PositiveBreakout56:06

JJ Zachariason has been very hot on Denzel Boston recently, indicating strong conviction on the player's upside in best ball formats where he can be targeted flexibly without forcing early running back selections.

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PositiveBreakout56:06

JJ Zachariason is very hot on Denzel Boston in best ball, indicating he's been high on the wide receiver recently and doesn't need to take running backs in certain rounds if Boston is available, suggesting strong upside conviction.

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Drake Maye

PositiveValue51:26

JJ Zachariason notes Drake Maye goes in the fifth or sixth round, cheaper than typical quarterback pricing. The Panthers shut Maye down in the second half last year, but a tougher schedule this year is actually beneficial for his development and fantasy outlook, making him a preferred stack target.

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PositiveProjection51:26

JJ Zachariason notes Drake Maye is being drafted in the fifth or sixth round, cheaper than typical quarterback pricing. The Panthers' tougher schedule this year is actually beneficial for Maye, as they shut him down in the second half last year; a more competitive schedule should allow fuller utilization. Maye is a viable back-stack option with receivers like Lad McConkie.

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PositiveValue52:26

Drake Maye is identified as a back-stackable mid-round quarterback option in best ball; Zachariason notes he can be paired with complementary pass catchers in the same range for coherent stacking.

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Dylan Sampson

PositiveValue65:08

Pass-catching back on DraftKings identified as tremendous value; JJ Zachariason sees pass-catching backs as an area of value on DraftKings, with Sampson available late and deployable as a pass-catching play-from-behind back despite Tennessee offense uncertainty.

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PositiveValue68:02

Zachariason calls Dylan Sampson a tremendous value in best ball, noting that he and Woody Marks go in basically the same range on DraftKings despite being undervalued on Underdog; this represents an area where he sees significant value.

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PositiveValue68:27

Pass-catching back on DraftKings identified as tremendous value; JJ Zachariason sees pass-catching backs as an area of value on DraftKings, with Sampson available late and deployable as a pass-catching play-from-behind back despite Tennessee offensive uncertainty.

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PositiveValue80:27

JJ Zachariason calls Dylan Sampson a tremendous value in best ball, noting that pass-catching backs like Sampson go in basically the same range on DraftKings and Underdog, creating an opportunity to find value in this position group.

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Emmett Johnson

PositiveValue55:56

JJ Zachariason targets Emmett Johnson as a late-round value in best ball, noting he knows Johnson will be available in later rounds and can be mixed and matched with early-round running back strength to maintain roster flexibility.

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PositiveValue55:56

JJ Zachariason likes Emmett Johnson as a late-round running back value in best ball, confident the player will be available later in drafts and can be targeted after securing early-round running back depth.

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PositiveRole78:03

Emmett Johnson is one of JJ Zachariason's two highest-owned players in best ball formats, alongside Jonah Coleman, suggesting confidence in his role and upside in Denver's backfield.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveRole6:56

Zachariason groups Wilson among a tier of elite wide receivers alongside Jalen Waddle and Terry McLaurin, indicating he views Wilson as a top-tier option at the position.

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PositiveRole6:56

JJ Zachariason groups Garrett Wilson among a tier of elite wide receivers he likes, alongside Jalen Waddle and Terry McLaurin, indicating he views Wilson as a premium receiving option.

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NegativeValue10:48

Garrett Wilson is mentioned as part of a tier of wide receivers (alongside Jalen Waddle and Terry McLaurin) that Luther Burden could potentially escape from via a camp-riser effect similar to Zay Flowers and Emeka Buka.

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NegativeValue10:48

Garrett Wilson is mentioned as part of a tier of wide receivers (alongside Jalen Waddle and Terry McLaurin) that Luther Burden could potentially escape from via a camp-driven rise; Wilson is currently in the mid-to-late fourth round range where Burden is being targeted.

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Geno Smith

NegativeRole23:30

Zachariason suggests that Geno Smith's poor performance last year for the Seahawks was not entirely his fault; the offensive environment (including offensive line issues) played a significant role, and the upgrade to a rookie QB with better supporting cast (improved offensive line, Clint Kubiak system) should help the running back situation.

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Isaiah Likely

NegativeDepth Chart0:13

Isaiah Likely is no longer on the Ravens roster (lost in offseason), which removes a red zone target that could have competed with Zay Flowers for end zone opportunities; Zachariason notes Likely's departure as a minor positive for Flowers' upside, though he acknowledges Likely's actual production numbers were not particularly strong.

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NegativeValue52:22

JJ Zachariason identifies Isaiah Likely as a back-stack option that can be paired with receivers like Mooney in the fifth-to-eighth round range. While not optimal, the pairing is perfectly reasonable for generating points without a true number one receiver.

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PositiveValue52:26

Isaiah Likely is positioned as a tight end option that can be paired with a back-stack quarterback like Jackson Dart; Zachariason notes that pairing Likely with Mooney creates a reasonable, if not optimal, stacking strategy that can score points without a true number-one receiver.

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J.K. Dobbins

PositiveRole72:53

JJ Zachariason is least high on JK Dobbins of the Denver backfield trio because he doesn't see the ceiling outcome given Dobbins' limited pass-catching role. Dobbins was used one-dimensionally last year and lacks the pass-catching upside that could elevate his fantasy ceiling, making him a lower-priority target despite his lead-back opportunity.

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NegativeProjection72:53

JJ Zachariason is least high on JK Dobbins of the Denver backfield trio by far. Reasoning: Dobbins lacks ceiling outcome due to limited pass-catching role; Denver used him one-dimensionally last year and views him as durability-limited, prompting the team to add complementary backs like Jonah Coleman and RJ Harvey.

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PositiveRole74:57

Denver brought in Jonah Coleman and RJ Harvey because they questioned whether Dobbins could carry the full workload for the entire season. JJ Zachariason notes that Dobbins did not have the ceiling last season that people believed he had; while he was a value piece at his draft price, he was not a high-ceiling target. The team's decision to add depth suggests injury concerns and workload limitations going forward.

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NegativeRole74:57

Denver brought in Jonah Coleman and RJ Harvey because they questioned whether Dobbins could carry the full workload for the entire season. JJ Zachariason notes that Dobbins did not have the ceiling and season output that people believed he had last year; while he was a value piece at a good price, the team's decision to add competition suggests durability or workload concerns. Dobbins was brought back but the move signals the Broncos' lack of confidence in him as a workhorse.

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Ja'Marr Chase

PositiveRole79:00

JJ Zachariason indicates that having Jamar Chase makes Joe Burrow a worthwhile pick in best ball due to the stacking benefit, even if Burrow would not be a standalone target.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeValue48:50

Jalen Hurts is going consistently in round seven on DraftKings; JJ Zachariason notes that at this draft position, the difference between the running backs and wide receivers available is not significant enough to justify taking a quarterback, suggesting waiting is preferable.

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NegativeValue49:39

JJ Zachariason notes that Jalen Hurts consistently goes in round 7 in best ball drafts, and he evaluates whether the opportunity cost of taking a quarterback at that point is justified by comparing the running backs and wide receivers available at that round versus two rounds later.

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Jalen McMillan

PositiveBreakout56:09

JJ Zachariason is very high on Jalen McMillan in best ball, indicating strong conviction that allows him to skip running backs in certain draft rounds if McMillan is available, suggesting significant upside potential.

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PositiveBreakout56:09

JJ Zachariason is very high on Jalen McMillan, indicating strong conviction on the player's upside in best ball where McMillan can be targeted in the fourth, fifth, or sixth round without forcing running back selections.

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PositiveValue76:48

JJ Zachariason believes Jalen McMillan has a better chance of being productive than Mike Evans, suggesting McMillan and Godwin could both end up being pretty good together in the Buccaneers offense.

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Jared Goff

NegativeRole

Jared Goff is mentioned in the context of tight end stacking strategy; Burroughs notes that you can get Jordan James in the 20th round if you stack him with Brock Purdy, suggesting tight end stacking flexibility across different quarterback options.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveValue45:01

JJ Zachariason is acquiring significant volume of Jaden Daniels in best ball because top-tier quarterbacks outside Josh Allen are cheaper than last year; Daniels is part of a six-to-eight quarterback tier that Zachariason targets heavily as value plays that could break fantasy without requiring a win-now approach.

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PositiveValue45:01

Jaden Daniels is being acquired in volume in best ball drafts at a discount relative to his upside; JJ Zachariason targets him heavily because top-tier QB talent is cheaper than in previous years due to running back scarcity pushing weaker quarterbacks up the board while elite QB talent remains undervalued.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveRole6:56

JJ Zachariason groups Jalen Waddle among a tier of elite wide receivers he likes, alongside Terry McLaurin and Garrett Wilson, indicating he views Waddle as a premium receiving option.

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PositiveRole6:56

Zachariason groups Waddle among a tier of elite wide receivers alongside Terry McLaurin and Garrett Wilson, indicating he views Waddle as a top-tier option at the position.

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NegativeValue10:48

Jalen Waddle is mentioned as part of a tier of wide receivers (alongside Terry McLaurin and Garrett Wilson) that Luther Burden could potentially escape from via a camp-driven rise; Waddle is currently in the mid-to-late fourth round range where Burden is being targeted.

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NegativeValue10:48

Jalen Waddle is mentioned as part of a tier of wide receivers (alongside Terry McLaurin and Garrett Wilson) that Luther Burden could potentially escape from via a camp-riser effect similar to Zay Flowers and Emeka Buka.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveValue33:31

JJ Zachariason groups Jalen Warren in the mid-round running back tier (alongside Remandre) as a secondary option after securing a hero running back. This positioning suggests Warren is viewed as a value target in the 10th-12th round range, offering a balance between upside and relative certainty compared to the deepest late-round backs.

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PositiveValue33:56

JJ Zachariason prefers Jalen Warren over Tony Pollard in the same draft range; Warren could be the guy receiving 50-60 passes and is a better running back than Rico Dowdle. Warren is described as one of the most underrated real-life running backs in the NFL period, really good at all aspects, great pass protector, and great pass catcher. Has become one of Zachariason's favorite players.

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PositiveBreakout65:06

JJ Zachariason prefers Jalen Warren over Tony Pollard in the same draft range; Warren could be the guy receiving 50-60 passes and is a better running back than Rico Dowdle. Zachariason calls Warren one of the most underrated real-life running backs in the NFL period, really good at all aspects. Warren is a great pass protector and great pass catcher, and has become one of Zachariason's favorite players. With Aaron Rodgers at QB, coaches want to win and will get Warren on the field over Dowdle.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeRole78:46

JJ Zachariason notes that in best ball, quarterback selection is primarily driven by stacking considerations rather than standalone value; he would not be as interested in Joe Burrow in a managed league, but would still take him in best ball if he has Jamar Chase or T Higgins.

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Jonah Coleman

PositiveValue8:47

JJ Zachariason mentions Jonah Coleman as someone he is highest on right now with 30% exposure in his best ball drafts; he discusses Coleman in detail with a guest later in the episode.

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PositiveBreakout8:47

JJ Zachariason reports he is highest on Jonah Coleman right now with 30% exposure across his best ball drafts; he plans to discuss Coleman in detail with his guest later in the episode.

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PositiveValue55:56

JJ Zachariason targets Jonah Coleman as a late-round value in best ball, noting he knows Coleman will be available in later rounds and can be mixed and matched with early-round running back strength to maintain roster flexibility.

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PositiveBreakout72:43

JJ Zachariason's highest exposed player on draft right now. His thesis: Denver viewed JK Dobbins as durable-limited and one-dimensional (non-pass-catcher), so they're investing in Jonah Coleman as a complementary back who can handle pass-catching duties and red-zone work. Coleman was unreliable last year (one of worst in rushing yards over expected per attempt) but Zachariason sees him as the lead-back candidate going down the stretch if he proves reliable, with potential to split work with RJ Harvey.

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PositiveBreakout72:43

JJ Zachariason's highest exposed player on draft is Jonah Coleman. His thesis: Denver evaluated JK Dobbins as durable-limited and one-dimensional (non-pass-catcher), so they're positioning Coleman to potentially take over the lead role down the stretch. Coleman was unreliable last year (one of the worst in rushing yards over expected per attempt) but could still see red zone and gadget usage; however, Zachariason sees a path for Coleman to emerge as the lead back if Dobbins falters, making him a high-upside target in best ball.

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PositiveRole74:57

Coleman backs up both running back and pass-catching roles in Denver's three-headed backfield; he proved in college he can play as a three-down guy and can also be a bruiser with potential goal-line work if Dobbins faces injury concerns. JJ Zachariason views him as a late-round value play (15th-16th round on DraftKings) with multiple contingent upsides: if either Dobbins or Harvey gets hurt, Coleman becomes a 10+ touch-per-game player. Coleman's college receiving totals exceeded RJ Harvey's in each of his last two years, and his adjusted receiving numbers in the ZAP model show him as better than Harvey from a receiving standpoint; he excels at cutbacks and can line up in both run and pass situations, which fits Sean Payton's scheme.

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PositiveRole74:57

Coleman backs up both running back and pass-catching roles in Denver's three-headed backfield; he proved in college he can play as a three-down guy and can also be a bruiser with potential goal-line work if Dobbins faces injury concerns. JJ Zachariason views him as a late-round value play (15th-16th round on DraftKings) with multiple contingent upsides: if either Dobbins or Harvey get hurt, Coleman becomes a 10+ touch-per-game player. Coleman is very good at cutbacks and can line up on the field without telegraphing run or pass, which fits Sean Payton's scheme; he also had more college receptions in each of his last two years than RJ Harvey and grades better than Harvey in adjusted receiving metrics.

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Jonathan Taylor

PositiveValue22:46

Zachariason believes Jonathan Taylor is the exact right bet out of a five-running-back cluster that includes Chase Brown, H-back, and Henry; he's evaluating which running back from this group could have been competing with mid-to-early first-round guys in retrospect.

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PositiveValue67:33

Zachariason is cautious on Jonathan Taylor at his best ball ADP cost, especially on DraftKings where full PPR scoring penalizes his limited passing game role; Taylor has maxed out at an 11% target share, limiting his ceiling in PPR formats.

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NegativeValue75:05

JJ Zachariason is not that high on Jonathan Taylor at his current ADP in best ball; later in the conversation, he expresses concern about Taylor's cost in DraftKings best ball specifically, noting that in full PPR scoring, Taylor's 11% target share limits his ceiling relative to his ADP.

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Jonathon Brooks

PositiveValue48:30

Jonathan Brooks is still available late on DraftKings and offers the same upside swing as running backs drafted two rounds earlier, making him a compelling late-round target; JJ Zachariason uses him as an example of why waiting on running backs is preferable to taking quarterbacks in the seventh-eighth round.

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PositiveValue49:09

Jonathan Brooks is still available late on DraftKings and offers the same upside swing as running backs drafted two rounds earlier, making him a valuable late-round dart in best ball where Zachariason can defer running back selections.

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Jordan James

PositiveValue38:00

Jordan James can be drafted in the 20th round and stacked with Brock Purdy as a backup running back play; this is part of Burroughs' strategy to get cheap backup running backs that can help advance teams through the pods.

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Jordan Love

PositiveValue47:22

JJ Zachariason expresses interest in Jordan Love as one of the few late-round quarterbacks he wants exposure to in best ball drafts, alongside Baker Mayfield and Malik Willis, suggesting these are the only quarterbacks after Malik Willis worth considering in 18-20 round formats.

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PositiveValue47:42

JJ Zachariason expresses interest in Jordan Love as a late-round quarterback option in best ball, indicating he wants exposure to Love despite generally avoiding the quarterback run.

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Josh Allen

NegativeRole38:30

Josh Allen is discussed as a quarterback option that can be stacked with Ray Davis as a backup running back in the late rounds; Burroughs suggests you can get Ray Davis in the 20th round if you want to stack him with Josh Allen.

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PositiveValue43:50

Josh Allen is the exception among top-tier quarterbacks; while typical QB1s are going earlier or at their usual spots, Allen's ADP positioning reflects his elite tier status separate from the QB2 tier that has been pushed up due to running back scarcity.

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Justin Herbert

PositiveValue45:01

Justin Herbert is being acquired in high volume in best ball drafts; Zachariason targets him as part of a group of 6–8 elite QB talent available at discount pricing because running back scarcity has inflated weaker QB ADP while elite options remain undervalued.

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PositiveValue45:01

Justin Herbert is being acquired in high volume by JJ Zachariason in best ball as part of a six-to-eight quarterback tier that is cheaper than historical levels; Zachariason targets this tier for upside without needing to win on quarterback production, mixing them to capture playoff week variance.

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PositiveValue45:15

JJ Zachariason recommends Justin Herbert as a back-stack quarterback option when paired with Lad McConkie in best ball formats. Herbert is part of a range of 12 viable quarterback options from Lamar Jackson down to Jackson Dart or Mahomes, offering good value relative to draft position.

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NegativeValue48:00

Justin Herbert is going in the late seventh to mid-eighth round on DraftKings, where the opportunity cost is wide receivers like Cortland Sutton, making the quarterback selection a marginal decision in best ball.

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NegativeValue48:00

Justin Herbert is going in the late seventh to mid-eighth round on DraftKings, where he is being drafted over wide receivers like Cortland Sutton; JJ Zachariason notes this is an area where the opportunity cost of taking a quarterback is not compelling compared to waiting two rounds for running backs like Jonathan Brooks.

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PositiveValue51:26

JJ Zachariason identifies Justin Herbert as a preferred quarterback stack pairing with Ladd McConkie in best ball formats, suggesting he's available at a reasonable draft position.

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PositiveValue51:48

Justin Herbert is positioned as a mid-round quarterback target in best ball stacking strategy; Zachariason pairs him with Lad McConkie as a complementary stack, and also notes Herbert as a viable back-stack option alongside Drake Maye in the quarterback range.

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Justin Jefferson

PositiveRole52:12

JJ Zachariason uses Justin Jefferson as an anchor receiver for stacking strategies; if Jefferson is selected, Kyler Murray becomes a natural quarterback pairing. Jefferson's elite status makes him a reliable foundation for best ball stacks.

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PositiveValue52:32

Justin Jefferson is used as an example of a premium wide receiver that anchors a best ball stack; Zachariason notes that if he takes Jefferson, he may miss on a second quarterback and therefore targets Kyler Murray as a backup option to ensure coherent stacking.

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Kyle Pitts

NegativeBreakout32:00

Kyle Pitts was a player many smart people hated, but he was the guy you needed in week 15 last year; this is cited as an example of why you shouldn't completely fade players you dislike, as they can come through in crucial playoff weeks.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveProjection52:08

JJ Zachariason is overweight on Kyler Murray, noting he has historically been pretty good for fantasy football despite public perception that he lacks certain skills. Murray is a favorite pick when pairing with Justin Jefferson or Addison if the second quarterback miss occurs.

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PositiveValue52:12

Kyler Murray is a favorite of Zachariason's for best ball stacking; he notes that Murray has historically been good for fantasy football and is undervalued because people focus on his limitations. Zachariason is overweight on Kyler and targets him as a backup quarterback option when he misses on a second quarterback after taking Justin Jefferson or Jalen Addison.

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Lamar Jackson

NegativeValue51:44

JJ Zachariason references Lamar Jackson as part of the quarterback tier range in best ball drafting, spanning from Lamar down to Dart or Mahomes, indicating multiple viable options in that range.

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NegativeValue52:04

Lamar Jackson is positioned at the top of Zachariason's mid-round quarterback range for best ball stacking, anchoring a tier of approximately 12 viable quarterbacks from Lamar down to Dart or Mahomes.

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Luther Burden

NegativeRole0:10

In the context of best ball draft strategy, Zachariason notes that if he takes Colston Loveland in round four, he is not taking Luther Burden in that particular lineup, and he hopes Burden's breakout does not happen for that specific roster construction; this reflects the probabilistic nature of best ball where different draft outcomes require different player selections.

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PositiveBreakout6:30

JJ Zachariason is bullish on Burden despite low rookie PPG, citing rare combination of low PPG and strong per-route-run efficiency; head coach Ben Johnson is buying Burden stock, and the role he'll play mirrors the Amon-Ra St. Brown scheme role Johnson used in Detroit; Zachariason is at 23% allocation and recommends being overweight on Burden versus the 8% market baseline, though acknowledges the contrarian nature of the call.

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PositiveBreakout6:56

JJ Zachariason is bullish on Luther Burden as a potential breakout candidate despite his low rookie PPG, citing his exceptional per-route-run efficiency and the fact that head coach Ben Johnson is actively buying his stock. Zachariason notes that while it's rare for players with such low rookie PPG to break out, it's equally rare to find one with Burden's per-route efficiency profile. He compares Burden's likely role to the Amon-Ra St. Brown role in Ben Johnson's scheme—an easier, lower-air-dot, inside-out role that Johnson successfully deployed in Detroit. Zachariason is at approximately 23-25% allocation on Burden, well above the market's 8% mark, and recommends being overweight on him versus market consensus.

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PositiveBreakout10:01

JJ Zachariason is highest exposed to Luther Burden (over 20% exposure) among early ADP players, having drafted him heavily in the mid to late fourth round in June. Zachariason believes Burden could be a camp riser with potential to slip into the early fifth round on DraftGames, and sees a chance he escapes the tier of Jalen Waddle, Terry McLaurin, and Garrett Wilson similar to how Zay Flowers and Emeka Buka have separated from that group.

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PositiveBreakout10:01

JJ Zachariason has 20%+ exposure to Luther Burden across his 80+ best ball drafts, targeting him in the mid to late fourth round; he believes Burden has a chance to be a camp riser and could experience a 'Zay Flowers effect,' escaping from the tier of Jalen Waddle, Terry McLaurin, and Garrett Wilson to move into the early fifth round or higher on draft sites.

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NegativeRole10:37

In the context of best ball draft strategy, Zachariason notes that if he takes Colston Loveland in round four, he would not be taking Luther Burden in that same draft, and he hopes Burden's breakout doesn't happen for that particular lineup; this reflects the opportunity-cost trade-off between the two players rather than a fundamental stance on Burden's talent.

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Malik Willis

PositiveValue47:22

JJ Zachariason identifies Malik Willis as one of the few late-round quarterbacks worth targeting in best ball drafts, noting that quarterbacks after Willis in the draft order lack the upside of late-round quarterbacks from previous years who went in rounds 16-18.

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PositiveValue47:42

JJ Zachariason wants exposure to Malik Willis as a late-round quarterback option, treating him as the cutoff point after which late-round quarterbacks in 18+ round drafts lack the upside of previous years' late-round QB options.

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Matthew Stafford

NegativeValue1:19

Someone drafted Matthew Stafford in the end of the fifth round in a recent draft, which JJ Zachariason presents as a questionable decision in the context of other poor draft picks, suggesting the ADP or round selection was not optimal.

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NegativeBust1:19

JJ Zachariason references someone drafting Matthew Stafford at the end of the fifth round as a regrettable pick, grouping it with his own disappointing selections of Puka Nakua and Devante Adams as examples of draft mistakes.

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Mike Evans

NegativeRole45:46

Mike Evans left the Buccaneers, which JJ Zachariason acknowledges as a factor in Baker Mayfield's 2024 performance; however, Zachariason notes that Godwin and McMillan remain strong supporting cast pieces, suggesting the departure is not a permanent drag on Mayfield's 2025 outlook.

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NegativeValue66:02

Zachariason fades Mike Evans despite his high ADP in best ball, believing Godwin and Jamie Jalen McMillan have much better chances of being strong contributors in the Buccaneers passing game.

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NegativeBust76:42

JJ Zachariason is not making a book on Mike Evans, noting he had a fast start but faded; he was also hurt a bit, and Zachariason believes Godwin or Jalen McMillan have a better chance of being productive alongside Evans.

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Nico Collins

PositiveValue21:51

JJ Zachariason views Nico Collins as a late-second-round caliber pick, suggesting he would be ranked at or above Collins' current ADP; Collins is part of a group of receivers (including T Higgins) in the 15% range that Zachariason feels good about drafting early, all in good offensive ecosystems that shouldn't completely derail his fantasy value unless injury occurs.

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Oronde Gadsden

PositiveValue53:00

Rondé Gadsden is identified by Zachariason as one of his favorite players and a key target in best ball stacking strategy; he is positioned as a critical piece to accomplish the goal of getting great overall value while building a coherent team.

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Parker Washington

NegativeRole9:35

JJ Zachariason uses Parker Washington as an example to illustrate that liking one receiver doesn't mean you have to dislike another—specifically, being high on Parker Washington doesn't require hating Brian Thomas. He emphasizes that each draft represents a unique outcome scenario, and multiple receivers can have value in different draft contexts.

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NegativeRole10:00

Zachariason addresses the false dichotomy that liking Parker Washington means you have to hate Brian Thomas; he argues that in individual drafts, you're making a bet on one player's outcome in that specific season, not making a zero-sum choice between two receivers.

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Pat Bryant

NegativeValue48:40

Pat Bryant is mentioned as an example of a 20th-round wide receiver option that JJ Zachariason might prefer over earlier-round selections, though he notes these are players that don't generate excitement and suggests waiting for later-round upside.

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NegativeValue48:48

Pat Bryant is mentioned as a 20th-round wide receiver option that Zachariason might target in best ball drafts, presented as an alternative to taking quarterbacks in the seventh to eighth round.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeValue51:44

JJ Zachariason includes Patrick Mahomes as part of the quarterback tier range in best ball drafting, spanning from Lamar down to Dart or Mahomes, indicating multiple viable options in that range.

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NegativeValue52:04

Patrick Mahomes is positioned as one of the viable mid-round quarterback options in best ball, anchoring the lower end of Zachariason's preferred quarterback range alongside Dart.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeBust1:19

JJ Zachariason references drafting Puka Nakua as a regrettable experience, comparing it unfavorably to other poor draft decisions and suggesting the pick did not work out as hoped.

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NegativeBust1:19

JJ Zachariason references drafting Puka Nakua as part of a disappointing draft experience, grouping him with Devante Adams and Matthew Stafford as regrettable picks that made his draft feel worse than dealing with a broken air conditioner.

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Quinshon Judkins

NegativeProjection25:00

JJ Zachariason notes that Quinshon Judkins was the worst in the league in yards before contact per attempt last year, worse even than Ashton Jeanty who was second-worst. This context is used to explain why offensive line improvements matter more than efficiency metrics for evaluating running back upside.

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NegativeUsage25:00

Quinshon Judkins was the worst in the league in yards before contact per attempt last year, worse than Ashton Jeanty; this context is used to explain that Jeanty's poor efficiency was partly due to offensive line issues that are being addressed.

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Ray Davis

PositiveValue40:00

Burroughs is super into Ray Davis right now and considers him one of the best late-round picks; he can be stacked with Josh Allen in the 20th round; however, Burroughs is trying to balance his exposure by not over-concentrating on Ray Davis and mixing in other late running backs like DeMond Claiborne and Tank Bigsby.

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PositiveValue65:37

Ray Davis has contingent value if Cook gets hurt; the team is discussing giving Davis more passing game work, which Zachariason interprets as reducing Ty Johnson's role and increasing Davis's floor and upside in best ball.

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PositiveValue75:45

JJ Zachariason highlights Ray Davis as a mispriced player in best ball with contingent value if Cook gets hurt; additionally, the team is discussing giving Davis more passing game work, which would reduce Ty Johnson's role and increase Davis's floor and upside.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveValue65:06

Ramondre Stevenson mentioned as a player in the same draft range as Tony Pollard that JJ Zachariason prefers over Pollard; grouped with Jalen Warren as a preferred alternative in the middle-round RB range.

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Rico Dowdle

NegativeBust65:06

JJ Zachariason believes Jalen Warren is a better running back than Rico Dowdle and prefers Warren over Dowdle despite people being attached to the McCarthy-Dowdle connection. Zachariason has leaned more toward Warren than Dowdle, noting that coaches prioritize winning and Aaron Rodgers will want Warren on the field.

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NegativeValue70:22

JJ Zachariason leans more toward Jalen Warren than Rico Dowdle, despite people being attached to the McCarthy-Dowdle connection. Zachariason believes Warren is a better running back than Dowdle and that coaches prioritize winning and Aaron Rodgers will prefer to get Warren on the field.

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RJ Harvey

NegativeRole73:09

JJ Zachariason views RJ Harvey as Denver's pass-catching specialist in the backfield. Harvey showed pass-catching chops last year and has explosion as a prospect, though Zachariason thought he was slightly overvalued by the market in dynasty. Harvey's weighted opportunity was solid even with Dobbins in the mix; Zachariason credits understatement of target value in full PPR. Harvey brings explosiveness that Jonah Coleman lacks, but Coleman offers pass-pro ability.

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NegativeRole73:16

JJ Zachariason thought RJ Harvey was slightly overvalued as a prospect by the market. He didn't dislike him in redraft but wasn't enthusiastic in dynasty. However, Harvey showed some explosion and pass-catching chops last year. In the Denver backfield context, Harvey brings explosiveness that Jonah Coleman lacks, and his weighted opportunity was solid even with Dobbins in the mix due to the value of targets in full PPR.

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NegativeRole75:15

Harvey brings explosiveness to Denver's backfield that Jonah Coleman lacks, but Coleman had more college receptions in each of his last two years and grades better in adjusted receiving metrics. Harvey is not as versatile as Coleman in pass-catching ability despite his explosive traits.

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NegativeRole75:15

Harvey brings explosiveness to Denver's backfield that Jonah Coleman lacks, though JJ Zachariason credits Harvey with more explosive traits than people give him credit for. However, Coleman had more college receptions in each of his last two years than Harvey, and Coleman's adjusted receiving numbers in the ZAP model show him as better than Harvey from a receiving standpoint, suggesting Coleman may have a clearer path to pass-catching work despite Harvey's explosiveness advantage.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveValue32:30

JJ Zachariason mentioned getting Saquon Barkley and Josh Gibbs at the two-three turn (rounds 2-3) as part of his preferred best ball build strategy, indicating he views these elite running backs as strong value targets in early rounds when available.

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PositiveValue75:05

JJ Zachariason mentions moving up Saquon Barkley as an alternative to CMC and Jonathan Taylor when those players are passed on, suggesting Barkley offers better value in best ball.

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Tank Bigsby

PositiveValue40:40

Tank Bigsby is mentioned as one of the late running backs Burroughs likes and mixes into his portfolio; he's part of the strategy to diversify late-round running back exposure rather than concentrating too heavily on one player.

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PositiveValue55:56

JJ Zachariason targets Tank Bigsby as a late-round running back value in best ball, confident Bigsby will be available in later rounds and can be mixed into a roster after securing early-round running back depth.

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PositiveValue55:56

JJ Zachariason targets Tank Bigsby as a late-round value in best ball, noting he knows Bigsby will be available in later rounds and can be mixed and matched with early-round running back strength to maintain roster flexibility.

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Tee Higgins

PositiveValue22:06

JJ Zachariason targets Tee Higgins in the late second round, placing him in the 15% range of his draft targets. Zachariason feels good about the pick given Higgins' placement in a strong offensive ecosystem that shouldn't completely derail his production unless injury strikes.

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PositiveRole79:00

JJ Zachariason indicates that having Tee Higgins makes Joe Burrow a worthwhile pick in best ball due to the stacking benefit, even if Burrow would not be a standalone target.

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Terry McLaurin

PositiveRole6:56

Zachariason groups McLaurin among a tier of elite wide receivers alongside Jalen Waddle and Garrett Wilson, indicating he views McLaurin as a top-tier option at the position.

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PositiveRole6:56

JJ Zachariason groups Terry McLaurin among a tier of elite wide receivers he likes, alongside Jalen Waddle and Garrett Wilson, indicating he views McLaurin as a premium receiving option.

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NegativeValue10:48

Terry McLaurin is mentioned as part of a tier of wide receivers (alongside Jalen Waddle and Garrett Wilson) that Luther Burden could potentially escape from via a camp-driven rise; McLaurin is currently in the mid-to-late fourth round range where Burden is being targeted.

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NegativeValue10:48

Terry McLaurin is mentioned as part of a tier of wide receivers (alongside Jalen Waddle and Garrett Wilson) that Luther Burden could potentially escape from via a camp-riser effect similar to Zay Flowers and Emeka Buka.

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Tony Pollard

NegativeBust68:27

JJ Zachariason is very underweight on Pollard (1% allocation vs. 23% last year) despite big names being high on him as a middle-round RB. Reasoning: poor receiving performance last year (yards per route run was really poor and has been declining for multiple seasons); bad splits with Tajay Spears when Spears was healthy; age concerns; and competition from Nick Singleton down the stretch. Zachariason prefers pass-catching backs like Dylan Sampson and Tajay Spears in the same range.

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NegativeBust68:27

JJ Zachariason is very underweight on Pollard despite big names being high on him as a middle-round RB; he has only 1% Pollard exposure this year versus 23% last year. Reasoning: poor receiving performance last year with bad yards-per-route-run, poor receiving splits with Tajay Spears when healthy, and route share concerns; Pollard is aging and not a young player anymore. Zachariason prefers pass-catching backs like Dylan Sampson and Tajay Spears over Pollard in the same range.

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Travis Kelce

NegativeProjection45:00

Burroughs notes that even Travis Kelce in his best years had only about 40% advance rate in best ball, whereas running backs and wide receivers can get 50-60% advance rates; this illustrates why tight ends don't move the needle as much as other positions and why Burroughs focuses on being different at the position rather than chasing the top tight end.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveValue45:01

Trevor Lawrence is being acquired in volume in best ball drafts; Zachariason targets him as part of a group of 6–8 elite QB talent available at discount pricing because running back scarcity has inflated weaker QB ADP while elite options remain undervalued.

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PositiveValue45:01

Trevor Lawrence is being acquired in high volume by JJ Zachariason in best ball as part of a six-to-eight quarterback tier that is cheaper than historical levels; Zachariason targets this tier for upside without needing to win on quarterback production, mixing them to capture playoff week variance.

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NegativeValue48:00

Trevor Lawrence is going in the late seventh to mid-eighth round on DraftKings, where the opportunity cost is wide receivers like Cortland Sutton, making the quarterback selection a marginal decision in best ball.

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NegativeValue48:00

Trevor Lawrence is going in the late seventh to mid-eighth round on DraftKings alongside Justin Herbert; JJ Zachariason suggests this is an area where the opportunity cost of taking a quarterback is not compelling compared to waiting for later-round running back upside.

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Ty Johnson

NegativeUsage75:45

JJ Zachariason notes that if Ray Davis receives more passing game work, it will result in less opportunity for Ty Johnson, reducing his role in the offense.

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Woody Marks

PositiveValue7:39

Pass-catching back valued on DraftKings in the same salary range as Underdog; JJ Zachariason identifies pass-catching backs as an area of value on DraftKings.

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PositiveValue68:02

Zachariason identifies Woody Marks as a pass-catching back with value in best ball, noting that he and Dylan Sampson go in basically the same range on DraftKings despite being undervalued on Underdog; this represents an area where he sees significant value.

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PositiveValue80:20

JJ Zachariason identifies Woody Marks as offering value in best ball, noting that pass-catching backs like Marks go in basically the same range on DraftKings and Underdog, creating an opportunity to find value in this position group.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveProjection0:11

Zachariason is bullish on Zay Flowers for the 2024 season, citing a healthier Lamar Jackson, a new offensive coordinator, and the potential for a more pass-heavy Ravens offense; he notes Flowers finished as WR12 last year despite limited red zone usage and Isaiah Likely's presence, and he expects improved per-route-run production year-over-year with the offensive changes.

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NegativeProjection0:11

Zachariason was a fade on Zay Flowers last year due to the Ravens' run-heavy offense and Lamar Jackson's injury/limited performance; Flowers finished WR12 but benefited from a strong final game that boosted end-of-season numbers, and Zachariason cautions against over-weighting that finish given the flat distribution of WR production outside the elite tier.

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PositiveBreakout6:56

Zachariason cites Flowers as a historical precedent for a receiver escaping from a crowded receiver room and breaking out; he sees potential for Luther Burden to follow a similar trajectory.

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PositiveBreakout6:56

JJ Zachariason references Zay Flowers as a historical example of a player who 'escaped' from a crowded receiver group, suggesting Luther Burden could follow a similar trajectory of emergence despite competition in the Chicago offense.

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PositiveBreakout10:56

Zay Flowers is cited by JJ Zachariason as a precedent for the kind of camp-driven tier escape he expects Luther Burden could achieve; Flowers successfully broke out from a similar wide receiver tier in previous seasons.

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PositiveBreakout10:56

Zay Flowers is cited by JJ Zachariason as an example of a wide receiver who escaped from a tier of similarly-valued players, a precedent he sees as possible for Luther Burden to replicate via a camp-riser effect.

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NegativeBust11:42

Zachariason was a fade on Zay Flowers last year because the Ravens were run-heavy with Lamar Jackson sidelined and ineffective upon return; Flowers finished as WR12 but benefited from a strong final game that boosted end-of-season numbers, masking a relatively flat year-to-year performance compared to elite receivers. The wide receiver position was extremely top-heavy last year with only 8-10 truly elite options, making Flowers' finish less impressive than the ranking suggests.

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NegativeProjection11:42

JJ Zachariason is bullish on Zay Flowers for 2024, citing a healthier Lamar Jackson, a new offensive coordinator, and the potential for a more pass-heavy Ravens offense; he notes that Flowers put together an incredible season in per-route-run metrics year-over-year, and while he was a fade last year due to a run-heavy offense and limited red zone usage, the offensive environment should improve. He also notes that losing Isaiah Likely removes a competing target in the red zone, though he acknowledges Likely's impact may be overstated.

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Episode Transcript

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0:45JJ, good to see you after a week off.
0:48How was the vacation man? It was great man.
0:51It was great to hang out with the family.
0:53Everything though unraveled when I got home. Our upstairs air conditioner broke.
0:57And so we've been without that for a few days now.
1:01And that's where my office is at. So my upstairs, uh, it's been like in the eighties, uh, high eighties at times.
1:08And I've tried to, you know, record some shows and get stuff done.
1:12And it has not been easy at all, but I gotta say experiencing that heat inside the house still somehow better than
1:19when I drafted Puka Nakua and Devante Adams. And someone drafted naked Matthew Stafford at the end of the fifth round last week.
1:26I'm JJ. And over the last couple of years, I've been doing everything I can to be a best ball bro.
1:33And last season things finally fell into place. I got 40th in the DraftKings Millie contest, taking home $20,000.
1:39Maybe I became a best ball bro, but I'm still looking to learn more about this game.
1:45And I still want others to come on this ride with me.
1:48So even if you consider me a best ball bro, this could be your year.
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2:36I'm JJ Zacharysen, and joined as always by Rich Ryan.
2:39Rich, what's going on, buddy? Doing great, man. The football is behind us, and the football is ahead of us.
2:45I fired up three consecutive fast drafts last night after my work was finished, so I am full steam ahead for best ball and football season.
2:54Yeah, I got some drafts in on vacation, which was great.
2:57When the kids went to bed, I was able to, you know, just hang out in the living room.
3:03It's one of the best times. Like, the kids are settled.
3:07You had a long, fun day, and you just bust open the laptop, and you're sitting there with your significant other, and,
3:14you know, they're doing their thing, and I'm doing my thing, and I'm just cranking out some drafts.
3:20So I am officially over the 80 mark with my milli drafts so far.
3:24I have to say, so I'm going to talk about some exposures here in a second of some of the higher, higher
3:31drafted players in terms of, sorry, high ADP players, I should say.
3:35They're obviously higher drafted if I'm going to talk about the higher exposed players that I've, that I've drafted.
3:41The thing is, in these drafts, these 80 plus drafts, now I've done a couple more than 80.
3:47I have gotten the 110 in 14 of them.
3:50What? And it is the most tilting. I hit 80 and I put all my notes for today's show for the 80 drafts that I've done.
3:58And then I did two more since I put the show sheet together.
4:02And in both of those drafts, I drew the 110.
4:05So I have now gotten the 110 in what 17% if you do the 82, 17% of my drafts, I've gotten the 101 three times.
4:13And it is beyond frustrating, beyond tilting. So if you guys feel that pain, I feel it too.
4:19I'm not getting nearly enough Jameer Gibbs and you can't do anything about it, right?
4:24Like I'm sitting here and I'm like, I messaged kitchen and Godula about it and kitchen's like, you got to log out,
4:31log back in, you know, like, like, just, just change, change things up a little bit.
4:36Yeah, right. Change things up a little bit and maybe that will help.
4:40But what I do want to do really quick, we have a great guest on today's show.
4:46There's a long conversation. I bring up the air conditioner thing multiple times in that conversation because actually it was even warmer
4:53when I recorded that with our guests. So I, by the end of the like 50 some minutes that we, that we
5:00were talking, I'm literally sweating on the show. So just, just be prepared.
5:04If you're watching on YouTube, it gets pretty bad.
5:07And I like my face is red, you know, I, it's, it's just not.
5:11Not a, not a good scene at all. What I wanted to do is since I am at that 80 mark, I'm
5:18going to go one by one through about eight players, eight or nine players who I am highest exposed to based on, on early ADP players.
5:27So I'm not talking like, you know, Jonah Coleman is someone that I'm highest on right now that I have like 30% exposure to.
5:34I actually talk about Coleman with our guests at the end of the conversation.
5:39So you guys can dig into that. We kind of just straight away and just went off on a tangent, but I
5:46think people, you know, hopefully we'll, we'll dig that, but I'm only talking about like top six or seven rounds, essentially your top six rounds, mostly.
5:54So with that being said, I'm going to kick things off and first say that the only player out of these, out
6:01of this group, that's been over 20% is the one that I'm going to bring up first.
6:07And that is Mr. Luther Burden. I kind of got burden crazy one point in June and was just drafting them.
6:13Basically every time I was in the mid to late fourth round, I've been trying to get, you know, even out the
6:20exposure a little bit more with burden. I still think that there's a chance that burden is a slight camp riser.
6:27Like, I still think there's at least some chance that we get a lot of hype and steam behind him.
6:33And because right now you're still finding drafts where he will slip into the beginning of the fifth round over on draft games.
6:41And so I think that there's room for him to grow and just kind of like jump in front of that giant
6:48tier of wide receivers, whether it be Jalen Waddle, who I also like, you know, Terry McLaurin, T-Mac, Garrett Wilson, like all of those players.
6:56I think there's a chance that he has that like Zay flowers effect that we've seen with Zay where Zay kind of escaped from that group.
7:04And Emeka Buka has kind of escaped from that group to some degree as well.
7:09I think that there's a chance of that with Luther Burden, because what if Roma Dunze comes out?
7:15He doesn't look 100%. You know, there's obviously already been steam from Ben Johnson saying that he's buying Luther Burden stock.
7:21And so I think that there's still some chance that his price rises a bit.
7:26I don't think it's going to get that much lower more than likely.
7:30But yeah, I'm in on burden this year. You know, I've seen a lot of people say that they're out that they don't understand this price point.
7:39And, you know, if you look at rookie season point per game marks, it's very rare for a player to really break
7:46out after such a low PPR point per game mark as Burden had.
7:50But my counter to that is, well, it's also rare to find a player who had that low of a point per
7:57game mark and such great per route run efficiency.
8:00You know, there's a lot more to a profile than just looking at one singular metric and just crossing that dude off
8:07your list because we haven't seen that historically. Now, if there are six, seven, eight metrics that you know are relatively predictive
8:14and all of them just say, hey, don't draft this guy.
8:18You know, that's one of the reasons why I am a little bit scared of like a DJ more.
8:24Let's say even though I understand the fit in real life, then I think, yeah, you can you can make that claim.
8:31And it's just it's more so for me. I don't think the Luther Burden stuff is simply all hype.
8:37You know, like this isn't just like a fantasy football industry fabrication of what's going on.
8:42The freaking head coach of the team who handpicked him, who drafted him, right, is saying that he's buying Luther Burden stock.
8:49You can almost copy and paste what Ben Johnson was doing in Detroit from a personnel standpoint and kind of see what
8:56he's trying to do in Chicago with the playmakers that he has as well.
9:01And we know that easier kind of lower a dot, but also inside out role to that will scheme guys is the Aminra St.
9:08Brown role. Right. And that's the role that Luther Burden is more than likely going to play in this offense.
9:15So I'm in on Burden this year. I'm at twenty five percent, a little bit lower because I did two more drafts and I did not draft Burden.
9:24So let's just say twenty three percent or something.
9:27But I am high on Burden this year. And, you know, if you're listening to this, if you don't want to take that on, fine.
9:35If you want to be a little bit even, fine.
9:38But I would still recommend being over that eight percent mark and being overweight on burden versus the market.
9:44Yeah. If it was just hype, then we wouldn't see Colson Loveland and Roma Dunsai going as high as they were as well.
9:51People want pieces of this offense. Yeah. Something else.
9:54Something else I want to throw out there, too, is that I see a lot of like, you know, oh, if you're
10:01high on Parker Washington, then that means that you have to hate Brian Thomas.
10:06You know, like if you like Luther Burden, then you have to.
10:09No, because in an individual draft, you're making a bet on that player in that draft.
10:15To me, every draft is like an outcome for a particular season and how that would go down.
10:20You know, there are hundreds and hundreds of outcomes and ways that things can go in a given year.
10:26Right. But in your draft, in that 12 team draft that you're when you're picking those 20 20 players, you're saying to
10:33yourself, this is the way this is going to go down.
10:37In this season's iteration. Right. But a brand new draft means, hey, I'll take Colson Loveland at the end of round four
10:44if he falls or middle round four. And I'm not getting Luther Burden in that case, which in that case for that particular lineup.
10:52Yeah. I hope the breakout doesn't happen for Luther Burden for that lineup.
10:56You know, I think it just goes to like the more of the probabilistic thinking and not handcuffing yourself to a take
11:03and just saying like this has to happen in order for you to like this guy.
11:08If that were the case, then you would never buy into anything ambiguous in it from a draft board perspective.
11:14You know, and it's just a silly thing to do.
11:18Yeah. You know, this on the market score episode that released on Tuesday with regards to the Jags and Bears receivers, where
11:25if you're just looking at a model's output and meeting outcomes, of course, things are muddled and gray.
11:30But the contingent upside for all four of these guys is is pretty enticing.
11:35Yeah. Yeah, it's really enticing. Next guy I'll go to.
11:38I did draft him in one of the two drafts that I just did.
11:42Zay Flowers. So technically, Zay Flowers is probably at the 20 percent mark at this point.
11:48I wasn't as in on Zay last year. He was more of a fade for me.
11:53He didn't have that great of a year. All things considered from a fantasy production standpoint, because the Ravens, you know, lose Lamar.
12:00Lamar wasn't that even that great when he came back and they were a run heavy offense.
12:06And Zay, you know, he had that that final game where he he boosted his end of season numbers quite a bit.
12:13And I think that we're doing ourselves a disservice a little bit with wide receiver in particular, if we cite end of
12:20season finish with these guys when we know that it's incredibly flat.
12:23If you say that Zay Flowers finishes the wide receiver 12 and he's, you know, 10 spots, 11 spots from Puka and JSN from last year.
12:32And then you look at the wide receiver 21 or 22, who would be 10 spots away from Zay.
12:38The wide receiver 22 to Zay is so, so much smaller.
12:41There's almost no difference in no delta compared to that difference between, you know, one of the elite guys to Zay.
12:48So like, I think that when we speak like that, like we're human, so we think in more of a linear nature
12:55in a linear way, but it's really not that way at all.
12:59Like last year, a wide receiver, there were like eight to 10 guys that were really good and everyone else was basically
13:06the same, you know, which is what the death of the wide receiver two was all about.
13:11The beginning of the offseason in the podcast feed.
13:14With that being said, I'm bullish that this this offense might be a little bit more pass heavy with Lamar being healthier, a new offensive coordinator.
13:23And, you know, it's the same logic that I used against Zay to a degree last year where, you know, he's not
13:30used in the red zone very frequently. He's not using the end zone very frequently, but you do lose Isaiah likely, you
13:37know, a piece that that you could hypothetically say is, you know, a threat down there, even though maybe the numbers aren't
13:44as strong and like not that big of a deal.
13:47But he's also he also just put together an incredible season.
13:50Zay Flowers did. And if you look at, you know, the per route run stuff year over year, it's something that that
13:57that stuff is going to be a lot stickier for Zay than it is than it has been in other seasons just
14:05because it was so good last year. And then you look at his market score comps.
14:10It's really hard to not get really excited. Like is his point per game average with the market score comps, which is
14:17the episode that I did on Tuesday. But his point per game average is like 15 and a half PPR points per game.
14:24I mean, he's still getting comps of like JSN from last year.
14:28And it's a very intriguing and fun profile. I've taken him at the beginning, like towards the beginning of the third round
14:35at times just to get a little bit of a differentiated lineup.
14:39But when he falls the late third, I'm basically getting him all the time.
14:43And like I said, I've gotten the 110 so freaking frequently that I've just gotten a lot of Zay Flowers as a result of that, too.
14:52Yeah, I'm looking. I pulled up my ADP data and he's right there at the end of the third.
14:58So it correlates with with where you're drafting. I pulled up last year as well.
15:02I was curious where they finished in ADP last year in best ball.
15:07And it was in the sixth round. So to see him jump up from the sixth round to the third round, he did.
15:14He is coming off his best season, obviously, twelve hundred yards.
15:17But like you said, so much of that boosted by that game where he goes.
15:22Yeah, that final game, that first game, he went nuclear as well.
15:26Like he really like if you had because I still had Zay.
15:30I had him as a fade last year, but I still had him in some leagues.
15:35And it wasn't like the most fun experience. It was not a really right.
15:40Right. And so but I but I do think it'll be smoother this year.
15:44But yeah, at cost, this is it's hard, harder to see him go higher than this.
15:49But to your point of this Ravens offense, any interesting mystery box in in and of itself with the new coaching staff there.
15:56So yeah, I should throw out there, too. I have 15 percent Lamar Jackson.
16:01He's my highest him and Jalen Hurts both at 15 percent.
16:04I'll go a little bit quicker through this, but they are my highest roster quarterbacks right now.
16:10Now, I just it goes back to everything we've talked about, about quarterback with guests, you know, on in our intros before the guests.
16:18It's just this idea that I have a very hard time knowing that these guys are going in the late like Lamar will slip to the six sometimes.
16:27And I have a hard time knowing that those guys will be going in the fifth to seventh round when in the
16:34ninth round you're going to be reaching for an inferior player, an inferior quarterback.
16:38When we know these guys can break fantasy football.
16:41Now, with that being said, quarterback and I talk about this with our guest today, but quarterback doesn't have the best advance
16:48rates even when they have a nuclear season. So I think that is important.
16:52But I just love the flexibility that those like round five to seven quarterbacks give you in these drafts.
16:59You're not feeling forced. You can let value drop.
17:01You know, there's just a lot of upside from that perspective in drafting them.
17:06So Lamar and Jalen Hurts are both at 15 percent.
17:09No surprise with Lamar, given I've been drafting Zay Flowers.
17:12I have Terry McLaurin at 19 percent. You know, I've talked about him on the show before as well, and he's in
17:19the draft guide as a player to target this year.
17:23He had his best per route run efficiency last year, despite his age, despite the quarterback situation.
17:28You get a new offensive coordinator that I'm bullish on and you get Jaden Daniels healthy.
17:33So I think I think Terry McLaurin, there's no signal to me that he's fallen off at all, you know, from a from a talent perspective.
17:41So given the competition there, even if they get a step on digs, I think it's going to be fine for Terry McLaurin.
17:49I also have 16 percent Ashton Gentry. That is probably my, you know, my my go to like round one to two
17:56running back that I've that I've kind of gravitated towards most.
17:59I'm trying to get a little bit more like Kenneth Walker.
18:03I haven't drafted enough of him and I want to be a little bit flatter.
18:08I probably don't want to finish at 16 percent with Gentry, but I'd be OK with the 12 to 14 percent range.
18:15The volume should be there. I love the the fit and Clint Kubiak's offense, but I love the potential upgrade at quarterback
18:22and the offensive line should be a lot better this year than it was last year with their additions and Cole Miller coming back.
18:29So Ashton Gentry at 16 percent. I have JSN at 16 percent as well.
18:34And the main reason for that is I know I've been getting the 10 spot a lot, but I've been getting the
18:41five to seven spot a lot, too. And the problem is I'll take him at five, but then he falls sometimes to six and seven.
18:49And so I'll take him at six and seven as well.
18:52So this is more of a I'm not look.
18:55I know that JSN is going to regress to a degree because he was so efficient last year, but I think Seattle
19:02is going to throw the ball more this year because their defense is just not going to be able to repeat that performance year over year.
19:11It's just something that we see all the time with defenses in football.
19:15And as a result of that, I think they're going to naturally not be in as great of scripts.
19:21And if they're not in as great of scripts, none of that, they're running.
19:25Look at the running back situation. The fact that we're talking about like Jadarian Price, who was never a bell cow in
19:32college, and they're already talking about George Helani and Emmanuel in this like running back by committee.
19:38I don't know how much they're going to lean on that run game necessarily.
19:42So I think there's reasons to be bullish on the passing attack and that volume can combat the regression from an efficiency standpoint for JSN.
19:50He's also just a stud. Like, I don't I don't know.
19:54I'm trying not to overthink the JSN stuff and be like, oh, I'm going to draft Justin Jefferson over JSN.
20:00It's like there's a lot of red flags still with Justin Jefferson's profile.
20:04We like how do we know that Kyler is going to work out?
20:09Like, at least we have some stability going on with Seattle.
20:12So I'm I'm cool. Like if you want to take Aminra St.
20:16Brown over him, fine, like whatever. But but I've been in the the five spot, the six spot and the seven spot
20:23so frequently that I've just gotten a lot of JSN.
20:26So he's another one. And then real quick to close this out, Jalen Waddell, 15 percent.
20:31When I go through the market trends that I do in the draft guide for this range of the draft, Jalen Waddell checks basically every single box.
20:40I think Jalen Waddell might end up being my favorite value in season long this year in the earlier earlyish rounds.
20:47Like he might end up being that guy based on where he's being drafted on some of these bigger platforms, you know, from a season long perspective.
20:55And I get him a lot. Like, I think that you can get him as early as the three, four turn on
21:02draft kings if you really want to get more exposure.
21:05Like, I think that's totally fine given the circumstance there.
21:09And then the final two are two bangles. I have 15 percent Chase Brown and I have 15 percent T Higgins.
21:15But that's partially, again, based on where I'm drafting so frequently, you know, that 110.
21:20You get him at the end of the third.
21:23He's fallen to the fourth frequently for me. And there's continued upside.
21:27I think T Higgins is just kind of undervalued in best ball where we know spiked weak ability is there for him.
21:34But then there's contingent upside if Jamar Chase were to go down.
21:38And all of a sudden, like I again, I've said this before, but I always think through this when I'm drafting my teams is what would happen?
21:46Like, where would T Higgins be drafted if Jamar Chase were not in the picture?
21:51Right. Would he not be a Nico Collins, if not higher than him type pick?
21:56Right. Like, yeah, he would be he would be in that late second.
22:00Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so I think that there's you know, we know there's at least some upside there.
22:06So T Higgins is the last guy in that 15 percent range.
22:10Those are the guys where I'm at early. I think a lot of that's going to change, hopefully just based on where
22:17I draft, because it's still only 80 drafts. You know, I'm only a little bit more than halfway there.
22:23But I feel pretty good about all of those individual players.
22:27Like, I'm not really upset about having because like like not only that, but all of them, maybe JT aside, maybe JSN
22:34aside are in and maybe McLaurin aside. But they're all in like pretty good offenses, like offensive ecosystems that I don't think
22:41they're going to like completely destroy me unless an injury happens to one of them.
22:46And I think JT is is the exact right bet out of that running back cluster.
22:51Like who is going to be the running back in that five running back cluster?
22:56I mean, you could even extend it to include Chase Brown, H.
22:59Chan and Henry, like who from that cluster are we going to look back and say, wow, maybe they should have been
23:06competing with the mid to early first round guys.
23:09Right. How about a pass catching guy with a team that invested heavily in its offensive line?
23:15Yeah. Drafted a quarterback plays most of its games indoors.
23:18Like everything's there for him. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, I've gotten a lot of feedback from people about like, well,
23:25you know, you've talked about rookie quarterbacks being bad for their personnel, you know, their pass catchers and their running backs, etc.
23:32Yeah. I mean, like that. And I talked about this on the show before on a mailbag episode.
23:38That's more of a proxy to tell you that that rookie quarterbacks tend to just underperform in general versus our expectations.
23:44But the idea here is that the system itself, the offensive line, all of the above, the lack of weaponry outside of
23:52Brock Bowers, all of the above, which by the way, Brock Bowers, for anyone curious, I'm not like 13% or so right now.
23:59But aside from Brock Bowers, it's like there's a lot to like about the volume that Ashton Gentile could see in that
24:06backfield in a good, you know, with a guy like Clint Kubiak.
24:10And I think that naturally, no offense to your boy Gino, but I think that, you know, when you when you add
24:17in the offensive line and the quarterback potential upgrade, just given the environment, I'm not even necessarily going to say that it was all Gino last year.
24:25The way that you combat a bad environment is through volume in fantasy football.
24:30And I think Ashton Gentile at the very least is going to see that to be able to like meet ADP.
24:37But if the offense is just better than than we expect, then he's going to he could be a top three running back in fantasy.
24:45Yeah, he could to call back to Brandon's episode with you.
24:48He could kind of PPR merchant himself, but at the same time, be extremely talented and be able to break off massive plays at the same time.
24:57Yeah. And I'm not worried about last year's efficiency.
25:00There's literally no correlation with year one yards per carry and how they volume is what you should be focused on more than anything like yards per carry.
25:09And not only that, but he was second worst in the league and yards before contact per attempt.
25:14Only Quinchot Judkins was worse last year. So, you know, obviously the offensive line played a role, but they're getting really good
25:21players added to that line, whether through injury return or just through free agency.
25:26So I am I'm into it to Ashton Gentile.
25:29OK, let's talk about this guest. I brought him up a couple of times.
25:33He was on the show last year. People really liked our conversation last year.
25:38So I thought, hey, we should we should run this back this year.
25:42But it's Todd Burroughs who has played best ball for a very long time, very active on Twitter at best ball NFL.
25:49We kind of went in a lot of different directions with this conversation.
25:53And so hopefully people enjoy that aspect because it wasn't, you know, more of like a interview answer, interviewer answer type type scenario.
26:00Like we went back and forth and we hash some things out.
26:04And I think that people will hopefully enjoy that.
26:07But we chatted about a really unique way that Todd likes to stack the problems that we run into with certain team builds and roster construction.
26:15And then, like I said, we had some conversations to that straight away from the show sheet.
26:21So it was a really good time. I hope that comes out when you listen to it.
26:26But without further ado, here is my interview with Todd Burroughs.
26:30We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time.
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27:02All right, Todd, first off, I have to preface, right now my AC is broken in the upstairs of my house and my office is upstairs.
27:10And so, if you're watching this on YouTube, by the end of this recording, not only that, I have a cold right now too.
27:18But by the end of this recording, I will be sweating.
27:21There's no doubt in my mind. And, you know, I will just say that it's because of all the hot takes that I give, right?
27:29Like, I am going to, like, take complete responsibility for you sweating.
27:33Man, I had JJ on. JJ had me on.
27:36Dude was sweating. My takes were so hot. Yes, yes, exactly.
27:40I'm looking forward to this conversation, though. We had a really good talk last year.
27:44You know, I thought that you brought some really unique perspective to best ball in this best ball space as I've gone
27:51on this journey of becoming, maybe I am now a best ball bro, but I love to hear other perspectives on this.
27:58So let's just start. What's a mistake that you think drafters are making this year?
28:03In other words, when we look back on this season, what do you think that we could point to as being the
28:10reason that people didn't do so well? The two biggest overall things I found this year is even more than normal.
28:17I think the field is overreacting to the small sample size.
28:21That's just an inherent part of best ball, right?
28:23In DFS football, 17, 18, 20 slates a year, many slates.
28:27And so best ball, we've literally only had five to seven slates so far.
28:31And this year, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
28:35I feel like even the smart people are just overreacting.
28:38I mean, we hear a lot of talk about small sample size in the community, but the way the board has laid
28:45out this year and people are just seemingly completely overreacting to what happened last year, which is what opens up a big opportunity for this year.
28:53Last year, I know I brought this up a bit about how my biggest epiphany was that I went from being too
29:00much of an advanced week, bro, to too aggressive, right?
29:03So my goal last year was to dial it back.
29:07And I not only had my best advance rate in three years, but I also got a team into the underdog finals and it came in 63rd.
29:15So I feel like I went for and accomplished a nice balance, but I feel like the field this year is spending all this time trying to advance.
29:24We don't hear much about correlation anymore. We don't hear much about week 17.
29:29We don't hear about stacking. It's just get your quarterbacks and get your running backs.
29:33What is the most interesting thing to me in best ball is trying to figure out ways to get through the pod
29:41so that you get to week 17, because that's the hardest thing to figure out.
29:45Refresh my memory a little bit, because you talked about this a little bit last year, but your strategy about handling week
29:5215 and 16, I think you said that you sort of try to trick the pods a little bit.
29:58How are you refining that? In the past, there's a couple ways to do it.
30:03There's stacking without a quarterback, you know, like at receiver, hoping that, you know, one week, one guy goes off, gets you into the next week.
30:12But my favorite way to do it is by stacking a running back, particularly a cheap backup running back with a stack, right?
30:19And most people don't do that, but we all know that in a good offense, one week, it could be the running game that gets you there.
30:28The next week, it gets you the passing game and Charbonnet.
30:31And I did trick the pods a little bit.
30:34I got to week 17 with Charbonnet, Darnold and JSN and Charbonnet had a huge week 16.
30:39And there was this nut matchup with Darnold and JSN week 17 that they completely didn't hit, you know, another 15 points.
30:46And I'd be a lot wealthier man, you know, the difference between like 10th and 63rd is a lot of money.
30:53Oh, I feel you. Yeah. So speaking of like how people are handling things this year and how, you know, you kind of see it as being reactionary.
31:02First off, do you buy that drafters are approaching best ball differently this year, specifically with running backs?
31:08And then for you personally, are you going with mostly running back heavy builds?
31:12No. So I'm doing the same strategy that I did last year.
31:16We've seen running back price in my mind this year, kind of Wiley Coyote over the cliff a bit, you know, based
31:23on two years where running backs mostly stayed healthy.
31:26So that I feel is exactly what I mean when I talked about the short sighted way people are thinking about things.
31:33And you have even really smart people in the industry who I believe in, think of incredibly smart guys saying, got to
31:40get your running backs, got to get your running backs.
31:43Well, my strategy has been, again, the key thing is balance, right?
31:47You don't, you don't, I don't want to overreact and go to zero running back.
31:52It doesn't fit what I do. I also don't think it fits the board as much, but with the quarterbacks moving up
31:59with the running backs moving up, the one group that has really kind of fallen is the backup running backs who for
32:06years, it was like, you know, zero running back, get your backup running backs, you know?
32:11And this year, no one seems to be interested in them, but they're just as likely to crush when you need them as they ever were.
32:19So I've been doing a lot of hero running back builds.
32:23And again, I'll have a couple of, you know, the other big point of emphasis for me is to mix up my
32:30builds more, not get locked into one strategy. So, you know, Pat Corain, when he was a big zero running back guy,
32:37one, you know, best ball mania with a two running back start, right?
32:41You want to mix up your builds, but the majority of my builds are nothing makes me happier, especially early when you
32:48could get some really good people at the two, three turn, getting that Bichon and the Gibbs, and then really pushing running
32:55back to about the 10th round and then taking six or seven of them.
33:00I think fundamentally, one of the key things that I believe that's different than most best ball people is that early is
33:07when you want to take a chance on the late guys, because there's a lot of uncertainty.
33:12Now everyone seems to want to have certainty at the running back position.
33:16Well, in a couple of weeks, some of these late guys who are 18th, you know, 16th, 17th, 18th round guy are
33:23going to win a role or someone's going to get hurt and they're going to, you know, like, look at what happened
33:31with Bill last year on the Redskins. He went from an 18th round pick to like a 10th round pick, right?
33:37I want to have those kinds of guys in the 18th round, in the 17th round.
33:42And then when we start getting more certainty, then I will be more likely to go to five running backs instead of six or seven.
33:50But for now, I want that. I don't want to have to get the whole backfield to get lucky.
33:56But if I have that great hero running back, take another one in the Jalen Warren kind of remandre range, occasionally a
34:03little earlier in that Swift, Tootin, Henderson range, and then just really load up on guys in the 13th through the 18th.
34:11I know some of them aren't going to hit right out of the gate, but some of them might.
34:17And then the premise behind it is still those guys can hit in the playoff weeks when you really need them.
34:23So with that being said, are there any early round running backs rounds one, two, maybe into three that you are just not on this year?
34:32I mean, I have. So one other big point of emphasis for me is I don't want to completely fade and act like explosive guys are invisible.
34:40So you're right. So last year, Derek Henry was invisible to me.
34:44And boy, I was a genius right up until week 17 when he was the guy.
34:49You know, it's funny. It's funny. Derek Henry, specifically for me, I think I was at like four and a half, 5% last year with Henry.
34:58I had him on my finals team for the million.
35:01And so he, he was the, he was the key reason.
35:04Oh, you probably got a nice payday. Yeah. I was top, top 40 in the, in the Millie last year, but, but,
35:11but it was, but to your point, that's well, bro.
35:14Yeah, that's right. That's right. But, but, but to your point, to your point, I've found as well, I think this is
35:22what you're alluding to this, this notion. I wasn't like super high 100%.
35:26So I was underweight on Derek Henry, but those earlier round guys, it is very, very difficult.
35:31Even like a, you know, if you're not into Devon, I know it's, it's a sexy thing to not be in the Devon H.
35:39Yeah. I mean that guy that gets 5.7 yards to carry.
35:42I don't want any of him. Right. It's like, it's hard for me.
35:46I look, I, there, there are definitely some, some sites and some platforms and from a season long perspective and stuff where
35:54I think he is more of a fade, but regardless of that, I'm still drafting Devon H in because if you do
36:01enough drafts, you're also going to end up getting values in certain spots as well.
36:05Is that, is that basically how you're feeling though?
36:08Is that you want that, that blanket, if you will?
36:11I'm trying to be more open to explosive guys that I don't, I'm more open to guys who are, we need to
36:18build portfolios where we're overweight and underweight, but human nature is we don't like to make a lot of decisions.
36:25That's just part of being human. So if you don't like a guy, I mean, you hear it on Twitter every day,
36:32these are the six guys I will not be drafting in any draft today.
36:36Okay, great. Go, go for that. You know, I hope it wasn't Derek Henry week 17, right?
36:42So it's a combination of taking those guys occasionally, but also mixing them in on teams where maybe you're real happy with
36:49your team or they fall a little bit more than they, they normally do, but trying to put them in situations that's
36:56where correlating week 17, you know, like if I take Derek Henry, I'm much more likely to try and come back with T Higgins the next round.
37:05Right. Right. Because that could be a really great week 17 game.
37:08Again, that was the short sample last year, you know, the last two years.
37:13Cause it's funny. I've heard a lot of smart people say the same thing.
37:17I want to be more open to the guys that I would have faded.
37:22And it's cause Derek Henry went nuclear week 17.
37:25Kyle Pitts was another guy. A lot of people hated and that's who you needed week 15.
37:30The key is to do it smart and not get caught up in being one sided with your takes.
37:36Yeah. And then build and then building smarter, building every team as if it is going to make week 17.
37:43You, you don't know, you don't want to, you know, you don't want to hurt your chances of getting to week 17
37:50too much by just focusing on it, but you want every team that gets there to have a story.
37:56So like for me, tricking the pods, having that backup running back where with a stack where if one of the two
38:03goes nuclear week 16, now the other one is low owned week 17 and to get the backup running back with your stack doesn't cost you anything.
38:11Right. Like, right. You know, if, if you've got Brock Purdy and, and Evans, if you want to add Jordan James, you
38:18can get him in the 20th round on, on draft cards, right?
38:22Josh Allen, right. Should I take Josh Allen with cook?
38:25Well, maybe, but boy, I can get him with Ray Davis whenever I want.
38:30Let's talk about exposure really quick since we're kind of on the topic right here.
38:35The question I get a lot is sort of how much exposure should we have with a certain player?
38:41I know that you mentioned last year, you tend to max out around like that 25% mark on uncertain players.
38:47Has your philosophy changed at all year over year based on what you're, you're speaking on here?
38:53Or is it, you know, are you like, you know, I know people talk about that like 4% blanket and stuff and
39:00making sure that you have some exposure to some of those early round guys.
39:04There's other people who mock that and act like, and are like, well, I don't need, you know, and, and all I
39:11can say is I've always had a five to 15% rule for first and second round picks because they're all really good players.
39:19They're good players. Yeah. And every year you see huge win, the, the, the largest win rates are own advanced rates are
39:26almost always with guys in the first and second round.
39:29They're the guys who push the needle and the guys who get supercharged are the ones who not only have a good
39:36season, but go next to the guys who either get hurt or something crazy happened.
39:41Right. Yeah. And we can't, we don't know who's going to get hurt.
39:45I'll never forget. Famously. I was back in the saints days.
39:48I was like, I can't take Kamara or Michael Thomas there.
39:52There's no way both of them pay off their first round grade.
39:56Well, one year Kamara got hurt one year, Michael Thomas got hurt and I had none of the other guy basically.
40:02Yeah. Right. So I, I have a five to 15 rule.
40:06I tend to get to about 25 to 30 on a couple of people each year because you do want to take
40:13stands, but I'm, I'm spending a lot more time in time boxes, making sure that I'm mixing up who I'm taking players with.
40:20It's easy during a long season to get caught up in like right now.
40:25I'm super into Ray Davis. I wasn't a couple months ago, but I want to make sure that, I mean, I took
40:32some Ray Davis when I didn't like him. And because you have a group of guys you're hot on in any window,
40:39I'm trying to be more like an optimizer. And yes, I want to have a lot of Ray Davis right now.
40:46I think he's one of the best late round picks, but I also want to make sure I'm not forgetting some of
40:53the other guys that I like, just maybe not as much, but like DeMond Claiborne or a couple of the other late running backs, tank Bigsby.
41:01Cause we don't know who's going to get the injury.
41:04I want to mix it up more, but rules are made to be broken.
41:09And I do have a guy in the second round who I want to be about 20% on this year.
41:15So let's save that for one of your other questions.
41:18Yeah. We're going to, we're going to, uh, we're going to get the heat up in the kitchen a little bit.
41:25Yeah. Yeah. I'm not quite, not quite sweating yet, but by, by the end, by the end, I'm actually shocked.
41:31I'm not because number one, I'm a sweater. And number two, I I'm not even joking when I say that it's about 90 degrees.
41:39No, I believe you. You have my empathy and I appreciate after the prepare of preparing that I did that you, you're,
41:46you're, you're, you're playing through pain, right? You are, you are playing through pain and we appreciate it.
41:52Yes. All right. Let's, let's talk a tight end.
41:55I know that you, you do like Brock Bowers at cost.
41:58And that's the guy. Does that mean? Yeah. Does that mean that, okay.
42:02That's, that's, that's the dude. Yeah. I want, I want at least 20% of Brock Bowers this year.
42:08Yeah. I'm pretty into Brock Bowers too. Does that mean that you're not into the other earlier round tight ends?
42:14What's your general tight end approach? Is it like Brock Bowers or bust for you this year?
42:20It's not. I mean, you know, 20% means I've got 80% of other people.
42:24I think one of the interesting things about the way the board has laid out this year is with quarterback moving up with running back, moving up.
42:33Basically what you're running into is I like different tight end.
42:37There's a lot of tight end ADPs that I liked this year.
42:40So one of my other faith, like Fannin based on a couple nonsense things, and he doesn't have a quarterback.
42:47He's now like ninth round, 10th round, right? Like he's dropped about two rounds.
42:51And I, I sort of liked him where he was.
42:54So a couple months ago, I was really into Tyler craft.
42:58I thought he was a great pick, but now a little further back, you get not only Fannin who I like, but
43:05Laporta, I mean, really talented guy going very late.
43:08You know, you don't need it with tight ends.
43:11I found you don't need the number one tight end, but typically there's three guys every year that you want, you know,
43:18that just outperform the top three and they can come from anywhere on the board.
43:23So I mix up my tight end exposures. Historically tight ends do not have the advance rate that running backs and wide
43:30receivers, they don't move the needle in that way.
43:33Even Travis Kelsey in his best year, best years was about 40%, where you can get 50, 60% at the, at the right running back or wide receiver.
43:42So I would say that tight end for me is more about being different than the field and making sure that I have enough strength in that group.
43:50Yeah. That the, it, it, uh, accentuates what I'm doing with the rest of that team.
43:56Yeah. You mentioned it with quarterbacks and how quarterbacks are going earlier.
43:59It's been a really interesting conversation piece with, with guests on this show talking about the quarterback position.
44:05It's just strange how, you know, you get these typical QB ones, you know, Josh Allen aside, you know, you get the
44:12typical QB ones going maybe a little bit earlier than they otherwise would be, or, or in a spot where they generally
44:19would go, but the QB twos are getting pushed up.
44:22So that's exactly my point. What's happened is because running backs have been pushed up the top quarterbacks other than Josh Allen
44:29are actually cheaper than they were last year. Yeah.
44:32Yeah. Right. They're like, they're, they're more, they're more, I'm getting more of that tier than I've ever gotten in my best ball history.
44:40Let's say my best ball. But it ties into your original, uh, late round QB theory, right?
44:45If you, if you get two, but you get them in the window, right?
44:50Right. That was your theory. You get to, but two, but if my, you know, it was two top 15 guys, but
44:57if you get those two in the window, it could win.
45:01So to me, what we've seen is because everyone has to have, right.
45:05The cool kids are all getting three quarterbacks. So everyone needs three quarterbacks.
45:09It's pushed up the weaker quarterbacks. Right. But the good, really good guys who could break fantasy are actually cheaper.
45:15So I've got a lot of Jaden Daniels. I've got, um, a ton of Justin Herbert.
45:20I've got a lot of Trevor Lawrence. I love dart.
45:24I love Purdy. Um, there's like six or seven, eight guys in that range.
45:28And again, I don't want to win a quarterback because they're not the big advance rate position.
45:33And you don't know which game is going to blow up week 15, 16, 17.
45:38I want to mix all that up. And then there's one other guy who's going later than he had the last two years.
45:46And that's Baker Mayfield, who I really like who, if I miss, he's my number one target.
45:51He was hurt play through injury. Most guys would have went on IR.
45:55His offensive line was hurt. His receivers were hurt, but everyone just wants to focus in on what happened last year to that team.
46:03And of course, Mike Lev Evans left. Well, a book is still there.
46:07Not that I like him as much as his ADP, but Godwin is there.
46:12McMillan is one of my most known players. So that is really my focus as a quarterback.
46:17The really interesting part about QB for me is that when you finish a draft and you, you know, you're sitting in
46:24like round nine or something and you decide to go running back instead of getting a quarterback or something.
46:30And you finish a draft and you look back because, because if you do pass in round nine, round 10, which is
46:37where a lot of these really good, you know, lower QB ones, high end QB twos will end up going.
46:44Uh, if you pass on one and you then, you then feel the panic a little bit, you know, because other people
46:51are drafting three quarterbacks and you know that you need to complete stacks or you, you want a three quarterback build yourself
46:58and you finish the draft and you look at it and you're like, why didn't I just take Brock Purdy in round
47:0510 when CJ Stroud is going around and especially since the running backs, they are just okay.
47:10You're right. It's not, it's not the opportunity cautious is not significant enough for doing it.
47:15Right. Right. So, um, Eric Bimfor of spike week, I'm big into the spike week discord.
47:20Hello to those guys in there. I mean, it's the best discord for best ball.
47:25It is high level intelligence stuff that we can just bounce off each other every day.
47:30But Eric did a pod earlier in the year where he says, I'm just getting my two quarterbacks.
47:36I'm not, I'm just not playing that game. Right.
47:39Right. Occasionally, you know, I want some Jordan love.
47:42I like Baker Mayfield. I want some, Malik Willis, but I'm acting for the most part, like the guys after Malik Willis aren't there in 18 rounds.
47:50And a lot of times in 20 rounds, I just don't think those guys have the kind of upside that some of
47:57the late quarterbacks who went in the 16th and 18th round in previous years have.
48:02Right. Right. Right. So if that's what beats me this year, I'll just tip my hat.
48:07But I just don't want to chase quarterback in most of my drafts.
48:11Yeah. I mean, the only, the only reason I don't do it in every draft is because of the exposure discussion we
48:19just had, you know, like I still want some exposure to some of the guys where that cost is, is being incurred,
48:26but at the same, but at the same time, you know, over on draft Kings, for instance, you're going to go in
48:33the late seventh into the mid eighth round. And that's where Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, those guys are going to get drafted.
48:40And the wide receivers that you're drafting them over are like Cortland Sutton, you know, like, which it's fine.
48:46Like Cortland, you, you might love Cortland Sutton. That's fine.
48:49Or like, you might not love Cortland Sutton. Yeah.
48:52You might love, you might love Pat Bryant in the 20th, in the 20th round.
48:57Exactly. Exactly. But like, you know, someone like, like they're, they're players that really aren't going to, going to move you, you
49:04know, they're not going to get you so excited.
49:07A wide receiver, even the running backs where you're, you're in, you're in ambiguous backfield territory.
49:12So you do want to throw some darts, you know, eventually and get some exposure.
49:16But again, you can go a round or two later and on DK, Jonathan Brooks is still going that late.
49:23Like he's still just as much of an upside swing as some of the, the other running backs you'd be getting two rounds earlier.
49:31So like, again, I just feel like the way that the, the, the typical draft goes for me is that I'm staring at these quarterbacks.
49:39Jalen Hertz goes in round seven consistently, you know, and I'm, I'm staring at these guys and I'm like, there's not a
49:46big enough difference between the running backs and wide receivers that I'd be drafting here versus what I'd be getting two rounds later.
49:53Whereas if quarterback starts going and the run starts, you can't just say, I'm going to ignore this run because quarterback or supply does run out.
50:01You know, it does get to a point where you're like, Oh crap, Bryce Young is the top available quarterback.
50:08And Bryce Young for, from, from my perspective, I just don't look at a guy like Bryce Young and think this guy's
50:15going to win me anything in fantasy football. You know, like, it's just, it's just not something that we can word pretty much the same thing.
50:23Yeah. It could happen. Anything could happen. Yeah. I would argue even with Ward, at least like we haven't seen, you know,
50:30with Bryce Young, we have like multiple seasons of data of him and in this offense and all, you know, there's, there's
50:37at least some like of this, like mystique, you know, with, with a guy like Ward, whereas like Bryce Young, I'm like,
50:44we, we know what we're getting at this point.
50:47You know, generally too inconsistent. It's not that he can't have good weeks, but he's, he's not going to really help your advance rate.
50:55Most likely. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't help that he has a week 17 matchup against, against the Seahawks.
51:01Yeah. You know, and again, you, we can overrate that, you know, the bad matchups a little bit, but again, there's two
51:08advantages and you've hit on them, but I'll summarize one is they're just the best picks where they go, right?
51:14They're cheaper than where, you know, Drake may going in the fifth, sixth round.
51:19I mean, Drake may, you know, I thought of something interesting because everyone talks about how they had such a bad schedule
51:26last year and they're not going to be able to do it again this year because they have a better schedule.
51:32And then I saw someone post on Twitter, just basically they shut Drake may down in the second half last year.
51:39Right. Yeah. So it's actually a good thing that they're playing a tougher schedule.
51:44If you're a Drake may guy, if I have the stack, it's easy.
51:48If I have lad McConkie, I'm taking Justin Herbert if he's there.
51:52If I have one of the Dallas wide receivers, I'm taking Dak.
51:55There's enough really good ones in that range. You know, it's not like you're going to get too much of them because there's like 12 of them.
52:04Right. You know, you know, from Lamar down to, for me, it's Dart or Mahomes.
52:09Yeah. You know, it's like 12 guys. Right. Yeah.
52:12You can even go, I mean, you can even argue to Kyler Bo Nix.
52:16I like Kyler a lot. I think Kyler is, has always been pretty good for fantasy football.
52:22Exactly. And people don't like him because he can't do this and he can't do that.
52:27I'm definitely overweight on Kyler. He's another one of my, that's like, if I have Justin Jefferson or I take Addison and
52:34I miss on that second quarterback, you know, like, so what I'm doing.
52:38And then there's a couple like Drake may Justin Herbert, who you can back stack in that range, Jackson Dart, you can back stack.
52:46You get Isaiah likely, you take Mooney. It's not the best thing, but it's, it's perfectly reasonable.
52:51Right. Yeah. And those guys can score points and get you there without a true number one.
52:57Right. We like Ladman Konki's going as the true number one.
53:00Is he going to be maybe probably, but maybe not.
53:03Maybe one of my favorite players, a Rondé Gadsden is the guy you need.
53:08Right. So I think that you're accomplishing two things.
53:11You're getting a really great value overall to build your team, which to me is always my most important thing.
53:17I want as much talent on my team as I can.
53:21And then I want to take all these other strategies to fit it together and make a coherent story.
53:27But the second thing is if you get those two quarterbacks, you don't have to think about quarterback anymore.
53:33Right. It's out. You know, like if I take Brock Bowers in the second and I get two quarterbacks in the one
53:40in the fifth, one in the eighth, I've stacked.
53:43Boy, it makes the rest of the draft really easy.
53:46I can just cherry pick value. Right. Guys that I really like that fell in that draft.
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54:59That's one thing that goes unnoticed I think a lot in these discussions just about like roster optimization and strategy and such
55:06is the flexibility in the late rounds and obtaining some of that the falling value like you're saying.
55:12You know if you if you're stuck and you're like oh crap I only have three running backs and it's round 15
55:19or something like that and you're like I gotta just pound running back from here on out then you're going to be
55:26missing out on all of the other values that potentially exist at at why and it's so tilting as you're doing that
55:33you're sitting there and you're seeing this guy who's sitting two rounds later than he typically sits and you you can't go
55:40after him just because of the the way your particular build is sitting right.
55:44So I do think that the flexibility aspect of things is something that really does go unnoticed.
55:50Yeah and I think that's an advanced best ball thought you know and it's not one that'll get you clicks.
55:56Sure. But it is really really important to be a really good best ball player in my mind.
56:02Yeah. Yeah. And also knowing where in each draft the values are right.
56:06Like if I like Jonah Coleman a lot. Right.
56:09I like Emmett Johnson a lot. I like Claiborne.
56:12I like Tank Bigsby. So I know those guys will be there.
56:16So I just need to have enough strength in my running position back position early that I can mix and match them
56:23while you know like lately I've been very hot on Denzel Boston.
56:27I'm very high on Jalen McMillan. You know where I don't have to take a running back there if I don't want to.
56:34Yeah. So one of my key things that I've always focused on is sometimes there's someone when you pick in the fourth,
56:41fifth, sixth round that you're just so excited about that he's there you're taking them.
56:46Right. Doesn't matter about your build. You got plenty of time to fill it out.
56:51But as a fallback if there's a bunch of guys and I'm like eh.
56:55Right. I want to keep my build as even as I can because then it gives me the flexibility to not have happened what you just mentioned later.
57:04Yeah. It's underrated. It's underrated. And this is this honestly to me through doing this is one of the disadvantages to doing
57:11a zero or a true zero RB draft is is that you you do lack flexibility once you get out of like
57:18round six is that you if you get a falling wide receiver value it's not nearly as easy to snag that value
57:25up and snatch it because you are already overweight at that position and you're gonna you're gonna be struggling in other positions.
57:32I'm not saying that you can't go zero RB.
57:35I'm just saying that it's a thing that you should be thinking about as you deploy these strategies as your drafts are going on.
57:43You know, it's something that that should be top of mind for a couple years.
57:48Zero RB became a cult. And if you didn't do it, you know, you're the cult was like, oh, no, you know,
57:55and now the cult's telling you you have to have three running, which is so funny that the same guys who would
58:02shame you for not going zero running back are now shaming you because you're not drafting three running backs in the first four rounds.
58:09Well, the first year I did this is your three of the show.
58:14And the first year I did it, I didn't have great success with my it was the first year that I was
58:21really max entering and play, you know, doing like 1000 to get good at it.
58:25And yeah, and like I had always played, you know, like, but not to that volume and such.
58:31And I went, I went so heavy with the same structure over and over again, largely zero RB.
58:37And I had a bad year, you know, just not a good season, changed it up last year.
58:43You know, I'm doing it again this year where I still have some zero RB teams.
58:48Don't get me wrong. Like every once in a while, I'll draft every year.
58:52I will have again, like if I'm in round four and I've got two wide receivers and Bach Bowers and neighbors is
58:59sitting there at the end of the fourth round somehow, I'm taking neighbors and I'm going to figure out running back in that.
59:07Right. Right. Like you can still like, yeah, you still do those things based on the following values and such.
59:13But, but I, but I do think that, um, you know, being so stuck on that one approach, like I said, and
59:20like you were saying, uh, it's so important to recognize how handcuffed it makes you as you go through the draft.
59:27If you're not, you know, balancing things out, if you don't just know that if you're not having about, you don't have to have the balanced approach.
59:35I'm saying though, if you don't have that balanced approach, understand that that means you're not going to have as easy of
59:42a time finding those falling values late. I tend to be too risk averse, right?
59:47I think every human is either leans a little too risk averse or a little too safety averse.
59:53You need to know yourself and you need to push yourself out of whatever your comfort zone is because everyone's a hero
60:00and, and boasting that they, you know, that I don't care about safety.
60:04You know, I'm here to win a million dollars.
60:07And then I can't tell you how many guys like that eventually took on my strategy for exposure because I got that strategy.
60:14Cause one year I went real heavy and I got crushed, right?
60:18Smart people learn from their mistakes. I want to talk about week 17.
60:22Cause we, we kind of touched on it earlier.
60:25I saw a really interesting theory. I might've come from Pete over that, but he was talking about how people aren't talking
60:32about week 17 correlation, which you alluded to earlier as much this year, partially because there are so many streamers that are
60:39streaming with overlays and tools and such and optimizers for what, while they're drafting.
60:44And so they're not having to speak aloud about those correlations.
60:47Do you buy into that at all? Or do you think that it's just one of those things where it's just not
60:54a hot enough topic for people to really get into?
60:58Yeah. I lean towards it being that it was the hot topic for two years and now it's not.
61:04Yeah. I went to, um, the spike week tools and I looked at every early correlation.
61:09So like Derek Henry, how, how many times he was with Jamar Chase, Chase, right.
61:14Higgins for every week, 17 game. And I've done that in past years.
61:18And it, you would see a 10, 15, sometimes 20% increase.
61:21If there was a guy who was correlated, I don't think people are correlating early intentionally.
61:26And I think that's the big advantage you know, a lot of people also think, and there's nothing wrong with doing this.
61:33Like if I have Drake May and Pat Bryant, who I like anyway, is in the 17th, you know, 17th, boy, that makes it easy, right?
61:42I get a week 17 correlation, but so many times when we just drop in a late guy in to either a
61:49stack or a correlation, it doesn't have the effect of doing it with really talented guys early.
61:54And you add that to something again, that we talk about a lot in spike week, you know, ADP is so static
62:01early and really the chance of these guys be, you know, like what's the chance that's, you know, Saquon Barkley is going
62:08to be that much better than Chase Brown. Right.
62:11Right. Or Brees Hall. That whole tier is, yeah.
62:14A lot of those guys are just a giant tier.
62:17So, so mix it up. And part of that, not all the time you mix it up, but having unique early pairings,
62:24even in tournament basketball, it's really important. I think in which I don't play like on drafters because I can't in Pennsylvania,
62:31but I think that moving guys up, it just doesn't happen.
62:35And Moxie, who's one of the guys that he, he, he did studies on that.
62:40People just don't move up. So, you know, sometimes I'll move up a Zay Flowers so that I can get him with T Higgins later.
62:48They go right near each other. And now Zay's moved up a little bit.
62:52So occasionally you can get it, but getting those correlations early, even if you don't end up getting one of the two
62:59quarterbacks in the game, you know, those guys could, you know, a few years ago it was, they were late, but I'm on Ross St.
63:07Brown and Penny both went off in a week 17 game.
63:11Yep. And if you didn't have that correlation, you didn't win money.
63:15Right. So there's a, there's definitely advantages to it.
63:17And there's more advantages because people aren't doing it as much.
63:21Yeah. I, I, I've had this conversation with some people where I think ADP in general is just so forced by stacking, of course, right.
63:29You know, quarterbacks will go Joe Burrow goes way earlier than he probably should.
63:33Cause if the chase guy doesn't get him, the Higgins guy's going to take it.
63:38Exactly. Exactly. And you can always tell, you know, you know, the unstacked quarter, the guys, the quarterbacks like Jackson Dart who
63:45don't have, you know, I mean, obviously you have Malik neighbors, but people are, or if you're a neighbors and there's only
63:52one player for Jackson Dart to really stack early when that's the case, then those guys can fall a little bit from a pure value perspective.
64:01But then the other, the other piece of that though, from, from an ADP standpoint is, is the, the, the stacking stuff,
64:08you know, the week 17 stuff that you're talking about a little bit.
64:12And the, it's very easy to get in this like robotic mode where you're like, Oh, I don't really want to take Kenneth Walker at 202.
64:20If sometimes he's going to fall to 206, because I can just wait and get the value when that draft happens.
64:27I'm in the 206 spot as opposed, but in the end, it's like, there's, you gotta, you gotta think about the probability
64:34and the realistic outcomes of all of these players and how tight, you know, there's a reason that they're tiered together.
64:41There's going to be, there's going to be 600,000 or so, you know, teams.
64:45Right. And if Walker goes off two, six or two, five and 500,000 of them, what, you know, if you take him
64:52at one eight and then come back with someone else in that same tier.
64:57Yeah. It might not be the most optimal thing.
64:59Walker might not deserve to go one eight because if he did, he probably would, but that doesn't mean in one season,
65:07he couldn't be the guy that, you know, like I push up as Ashton Gentry, I'm not that high on CMC or Jonathan Taylor at ADP.
65:15I'll push up Ashton Gentry because most people who pass on CMC and Taylor are going to take either Amon Ra, Jefferson or CD Land.
65:23So I'll move up Gentry or sometimes Barkley. All right.
65:26Give me three players, good or bad, that you think are just wildly mispriced right now in, in best ball.
65:32You know, I think a lot of them, um, ADP has gotten very efficient.
65:37A lot of the players I thought were badly mispriced.
65:40The field has adjusted on. I pretty much covered a lot of the guys already.
65:45I talked about Ray Davis. Um, not only does he have contingent value of cook gets hurt.
65:50They're talking about giving Davis, uh, cook more passing game work.
65:54Yeah. And to me, that means less Ty Johnson and more Ray Davis.
65:58He might have a bit of a floor. There's a couple guys.
66:02I'm not on a make a book at cost.
66:05Yeah. He had that fast start. He faded. Yes.
66:08He was hurt a little bit, but I think there's a much better chance that Godwin or Jamie Jalen McMillan end up
66:15being, you know, I think those three guys might all end up being pretty good together.
66:20And Dick Buka goes really high. One I'm fading is Devante Adams.
66:24Um, I just think his ADP it's fallen, but he's really getting up there in age and he was propped up by just 18 touchdowns.
66:32Something like that. Crazy, crazy touchdown. Not that he can't do it again.
66:36Right. But again, uh, that, uh, you know, he's just not, that's one guy that I, I, I still would have liked to have seen fall more.
66:44Um, how about you? Do you have a couple guys?
66:48Because I really am struggling to answer that question right now.
66:51There's guys I like a little, you know, there's just nobody I want to like plant a flag on.
66:57The hardest part of my draft guide this year was probably, I mean, the research was a lot, but like just the,
67:04the players to avoid section was, was tough. I mean, it's the, the market seems pretty efficient right now.
67:10I, I went with the approach more so with my avoid section for the guide of like looking at specific platforms and saying this guy's just wet.
67:19Cause it's a lot easier instead of looking at more consensus, but strictly from like a best ball perspective, you know, quarterback
67:26is always a position where you can't really have a strong take because you're just simply stacking for the most part.
67:33Right. Like, you know, in a, a managed league, I'm going to probably not be as into a Joe burrow, but if
67:40I have Jamar chase or T Higgins and best ball, I'll still take Joe burrow.
67:45You know, I'm a little bit afraid as you are of, of Jonathan Taylor, uh, at his cost, just because of, especially
67:52DK where, you know, you get it's, it's full PPR.
67:55So it's a little bit of a, of a difference for a guy like JT who who's maxed out an 11% target share.
68:02I've got an interesting thought. Yeah. What's, what's that with JT, you know, like in DFS in the old days, FanDuel and
68:09DraftKings, you know, some Sundays you play a lot of one guy on one site because he was priced differently than another.
68:16I'm having a hard time drafting some of the pass catching backs.
68:20Not that there's as many as there used to be on underdog, but they go basically in the same range on DraftKings
68:27guys like Woody Marks, Dylan Sampson, I think is a tremendous.
68:31I agree. DraftKings. Yeah. I've got, um, so yeah, I, I think that is one area where I, I think I'm seeing
68:38a lot of value is in those pass catching backs on DraftKings.
68:41Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. I'll say one, one player that I am very underweight on and it's kind of contrarian because there's a
68:49lot of big names in the space that are very high on him as a sort of a, a middle round running
68:56back pick for, for just getting some points is Tony Pollard.
68:59I should have mentioned him. I, I have, I think I have 1% Tony Pollard and last year I had 23%.
69:06Yeah. It's really, really a hard bet for me when you look at how he performed last year, specifically as a receiver,
69:13you know, as yards per hour run was really poor.
69:16It's been pouring out for multiple seasons. He's not a young man anymore.
69:20He's not a young man. He, he, he had pretty bad splits with Tajay Spears last year, even if you're just looking at, uh, you know, usage, right.
69:29And as his route share when Tajay Spears was healthy.
69:32And I don't think Nick Singleton is necessarily a zero all season long.
69:36You know, there's a chance that we see some Singleton down the stretch.
69:41And, and again, one of the pass catchers that you're talking about, you know, Dylan Sampson late on DK Tajay Spears in
69:48the same boat where, where he could easily just be a pass catching, you know, uh, play from behind kind of back, which is how he's been deployed.
69:57I know it's a new coaching staff and such, but no, yeah, but Tennessee's offense could suck realistically, you know, like that's also where things could go south.
70:06So I found myself in that Pollard range going more with like Jalen Warren, Ramondre Stevenson players that I've the same, you
70:13know, just like, and I really like Warren because he could be the guy that they're dropping off 50, 60 Rogers could be dropping off 50, 60 passes.
70:22And ultimately I think he's a better running back than Rico Dowdle too.
70:26Yeah, I, I agree. Uh, Jalen Warren, I think Jalen Warren, and this is maybe a slightly hot take, but like, I
70:33think he's one of the most underrated, like real life running backs in the NFL period.
70:38Like he's really good at all. And it's a new staff.
70:41It's a new game. Yeah. And I know that people are attached to the McCarthy Dowdle thing and I get it, but
70:48I I've, I've leaned more Warren than, than Dowdle.
70:51Yeah. Everyone's attached to somebody until the other guy's better.
70:55Yeah. Right. Like ultimately people underestimate how much coaches want to win and how much Aaron Rogers is going to be like,
71:02get this guy off the field and give me Jalen Warren.
71:05Yeah. Great pass protector, great pass catcher. I mean, there's a lot to like about Jalen Warren.
71:11Yeah. Um, I, I, I do think that is definitely a really, really good one.
71:15Um, I like that. And, uh, Warren has become one of my favorite players.
71:20And I just think that in general, one of the underestimated things that I beat myself up for, for not doing in
71:27the past that I've gotten better at is if I don't like Pollard and there's really only two guys, Singleton could do
71:34it, but he's coming off the foot. I I'm up to about 18% on Tajay Spears.
71:39I've always had a lot of Spears. I loved him coming out.
71:43I thought he had some really unique skills and, um, I think, but from just a strategic standpoint, if you're really down
71:50on one guy, make sure you take the backup because then you're getting double pay.
71:55If you're right. Yeah. That helped me so much last year with Chuba and Rico.
71:59I was, I was fading Chuba last year and naturally just gravitated towards Rico and it's true.
72:05Yeah. It's very true. All right. Before I let you go, I am borderline sweating.
72:10You can kind of see it if you're watching on my takes weren't hot enough.
72:15I'm sorry. Well, that's what I'm saying. You got to give me one fire bold take before I let you go as I do with every guest.
72:23So, so, so throw it out there. I got two.
72:26One is that Brock Bowers leads the NFL in receptions.
72:30Okay. I like that. And the other one is that one of Jonah Coleman or DeMond Claiborne workout roles to start the season.
72:37Yeah. And, and, and, and, and that one of them ends up being the lead back going down the stretch.
72:43Can I, can I tell people a little bit of a secret here?
72:47First off, I've loved this conversation because it literally just devolved into a conversation, you know, it wasn't, you know, this is
72:55what I think becoming a best ball bro is all about and, and what I think people like to hear, but I'll, I'll share a little secret.
73:03Jonah Coleman right now is by far my highest exposed player on draft.
73:07What do you like about him? So I, my, my stance on Coleman from a prospecting standpoint and like with my model
73:14and going through all of that was Denver looked at JK Dobbins and said, Hey, we like you, but we know that you're not durable.
73:22Right. And, and not only that, they use JK Dobbins in a very one dimensional way last year.
73:28He was not a pass catcher. And they used Harvey pretty much the same.
73:33Yeah. And Harvey, Harvey was their pass catcher and they're like the, I have a stance that I think Dobbins is actually
73:40the player that I'm going to be, that I'm least high on of the three by far, just because I don't see the ceiling outcome for him enough.
73:49Just, just given the pass catching role that he has, but with, with RJ Harvey, you know, they, they certainly see Saul play.
73:56I, you know, I thought as a prospect, he was a little bit overvalued by the market.
74:01I didn't mind him and redraft last year, but from a dynasty standpoint, I wasn't like jumping for joy about Harvey.
74:08I didn't like his tape. Yeah. With that being said, I think he did have some explosion.
74:14I do think that he showed off some, some pass catching chops last year.
74:18Right. And so, so in that environment, you know, that he's getting some high, like if you look at his weighted opportunity
74:25last year, even with Dobbins, it wasn't as, because I think a lot of times people understate the value of a target, especially in a full PPR platform.
74:34And anyway, so they're looking at Jonah Coleman and they're saying, Hey, we tried to rely on you down the stretch at what you, you weren't reliable enough.
74:43You know, one of the worst players in rushing yards over expected per attempt last year could play a pass catching role.
74:50I think they still are going to use him in the red zone and in that sort of like gadgety way that
74:57they did last year, but Dobbins, they said, Hey, I don't know if you could really carry this workload for us for the entire season.
75:05So let's get one of the most boring all around backs in this year's draft and Jonah Coleman, who is not explosive.
75:12That's what RJ Harvey brings to the table, but he can pass pro.
75:16I think he, I think he's more explosive than people give him credit.
75:20There's a possibility. There's a definite possibility of that, but, but at the very, but I, but I do think that Harvey is more explosive.
75:28There's no doubt about that from a trade perspective.
75:31Completely agree. I'm not a Harvey guy, but that's, he is right.
75:35So, so my stance with Coleman is that he backs up both positions.
75:39He can play a pass catching role for them because he's, he proved that in college and he was good at doing
75:46that in college as a three down guy, but he can be a bruiser too.
75:51And he might even get some goal line work as the, as the season goes on, especially if they're worried about Dobbins
75:58and injury, et cetera, and seeing that short yardage stuff.
76:01So to me, Coleman is someone who should get some work in a three headed backfield.
76:06Like I think he's going to get something in that backfield and you're buying 15th, 16th round and draft Kings.
76:13You're buying points late. That's all it is to me.
76:16But, but he has also multiple outs for contingent upside, right?
76:20Where, where if one of those two get hurt, he's all of a sudden going to be a 10 plus touch per game type player.
76:28This ties into one of my hot takes and, and you back to your first question.
76:33Everyone is convinced this running back class is crap, right?
76:36You've heard it and, and, and overall it is.
76:39Yeah, you're right. You heard it from me. It does.
76:42But that doesn't mean there aren't going to be two or three guys who, you know, the NFL needs running backs every year.
76:49Guys get hurt, guys age out. So to me, Jonah Coleman does a couple of things.
76:54One, he is very good at cutbacks. And when you have a big offensive line, that guy who can make that one cut, get up field.
77:03I think Sean Payton's going to love that. Sean Payton's also going to love the fact that he can be on the
77:10field and you don't know whether it's going to be run or pass.
77:14Right. Where the Dobbins, yes, sometimes it's going to be a pass, but most of the, but my point is Jonah Coleman can play both sides.
77:22He can pass block. And the weird thing is he had more college receptions in each of his last two years than RJ Harvey did.
77:30Yes. Okay. Now that doesn't mean a heck of a lot, you know, college reception totals are completely unsticky.
77:36But when I first looked that up and saw it, I was like, there's something no one thinks.
77:42I mean, even when I look at my adjusted receiving numbers in the ZAP model, Jonah Coleman still looks better than what
77:49RJ Harvey did from a receiving standpoint. I'm glad to hear that because it's what I saw on tape.
77:55Yeah. And I'm no expert, but I, I, I really Jonah Coleman is an Emmett Johnson have been my two highest own guys.
78:03I just think Coleman has a clear path to being the number one.
78:07It's just weird. Like I just didn't like JK Dobbins.
78:10I loved them last year. I dropped a ton of Dobbins.
78:13I had him as a, as a target. I love that we're just ending this show on, on some random Broncos backfield.
78:20That's what best ball bros do. Dobbins. Dobbins did not have the ceiling and the, the, the season, even when you just
78:28look at his output that I think people believe he did.
78:31It's just that they got him at a good price and he was a value piece for them.
78:37And the other thing they brought him back, but it wasn't like he was a priority bring back.
78:43He was out there for a couple of weeks before they brought him back.
78:47Yeah. Yeah. And he's coming off an injury that no one talks about.
78:51That's the other piece to it. Yeah. Right. Right.
78:54So yeah. I mean, I could easily, you know, we could look back at this in, January.
79:00I didn't mind Claiborne. My, you know, he's undersized.
79:02That's, that's the biggest issue. I think I've oddly this season turned into, I've never been a Jordan Mason guy.
79:09I'm drafting Jordan Mason for the first time. I've been talked into it.
79:13My fantasy career. Spike week guys got me taking some.
79:16Yeah. Yeah. I've been, I've been for the first time drafting Jordan Mason when I've, you know, railed against them historically.
79:23I kind of dug them, but you know, I, I don't know.
79:27My memory must've been bad. I didn't think he was that good last year, but the numbers that Eric, Eric shared.
79:33Yeah. So I think, you know, I think the Vikings offense, I think the bucks offense are two really less expensive offenses
79:40that could be top five to seven offense. Right.
79:43That could be good this year. Yeah. Agreed. All right, Todd, let everyone know where they can find you all that good stuff.
79:51This was a great conversation. I, I have, I'm, I'm retired right now.
79:55I'm, I'm nowhere. I'm not podcasting on my own.
79:58Um, uh, I had a really good concept. No one wanted to hear about it.
80:03And I, you know, so I am just trying to prove everyone wrong by kicking everyone's ass in best ball.
80:09I love it. I love it. Good stuff. And, but you're on, you are on Twitter though.
80:14Uh, at best ball NFL and, uh, pretty easy to remember.
80:18And I really enjoyed this and I hope we fight each other out for the top prize, uh, on draft Kings this year.
80:25Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. You were on last year, had some really great feedback from people.
80:30They loved it. So I had to bring you back again this year and I really enjoyed, you know, your insight.
80:37Uh, I think you bring, you know, some uniqueness to the, to the table from an analysis standpoint.
80:43So thank you for your time. Everyone else listening.
80:45Thank you for your time as well. Hopefully you liked, you know, the little rambling that, that Todd and I had at the end.
80:53No, no, I, I, I, I'm always very succinct.
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