0:00Big show for you here today, Ray Garman joins me for the Week 4 data dump and we got a lot to get into here.
0:08Ashton Gentry struggling with rushing efficiency despite the fact he's getting a ton of volume.
0:12We break down what that means, plus Zay Flowers absolutely breaking the efficiency charts.
0:17Garrett Wilson is it finally happening? Tons of storylines to get into.
0:20A lot of rest of season ranking update talk and speaking of updates, yeah, we got an update on the league.
0:27All right, the Yahoo Fantasy League. We'll talk about that at the end of the show.
0:32We'll talk about how somebody's 3-0. No spoilers, though.
0:35All that and more coming up on today's show.
0:37Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
0:41Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast. And it is a hell of a day to talk ball.
0:46And joining me to do just that is Ray Garvin.
0:49Ray, what's going on, man? What's going on, Matt?
0:52Week 4 NFL season. We're here. It has been an interesting one.
0:55And every time we get on this show to talk through things that have happened, players, teams, situations.
1:01I always have a good time, man. So excited to get into it today and talk through some stuff to help the
1:08people out in the YouTube comments and everybody that watches or listens to the show after the fact, man.
1:14It's a great day. It's a great day. Let me get a vibe check from you here.
1:19Three full weeks into the season. We're about to enter week four here.
1:23This is the show where we usually kind of turn the page from previous week to the next week.
1:29And this is right about the time, Ray, when I bring this up all the time.
1:34Adam Harstad from Football Guys, he several years ago, I don't know if he's updated this since, that kind of found that
1:40the first four weeks of the season, season-long ADP is still more predictive than what we are seeing in the current moment.
1:47We looked at some data from J.J. Zacharysson after week one.
1:51I believe that things do eventually start to crystallize really at some of the positions like wide receiver, though.
1:56It's not until midway through the season that there's a strong correlation to the current results of the way it's going to end the season here.
2:04So just, again, vibe check from you so far on how the season has gone, sort of where are we at?
2:11Like, what are some situations just off the cuff here that you're like, I don't know if I'm, like, buying this or
2:18kind of that you're raising an eyebrow at and kind of want to see more from?
2:23Well, I mean, I think one of the low-hanging fruit, easiest answers to this question is the Chicago Bears.
2:28Like, this wide receiver room, the tight end room, everything that we talked about in the offseason, everything we thought we knew about these three wide receivers.
2:37And then yet I saw you talking on the show last night, I believe, the number 14.
2:42It was always Kalief Raymond. We should have known that if anybody was going to be the Aminra St.
2:48Brown, it was going to be Kalief Raymond. And I think overall, man, like your elite superstar players, by and large, are the elite superstar players, right?
2:56Outside of Puka Nakulu who has not played, but Jackson Smith and Jigba Dope.
3:01Bowers, as soon as he got on the field, he was awesome.
3:04McBride's been great. I really think it's those, you know, hell, right when you get around to round two, man, I don't,
3:11I still don't know what to make of this season, by and large.
3:15And I think that's what makes this show so fun.
3:18I think injuries have played a big part in how we feel about roles and situations.
3:23I think there are some spots where we're getting some better performances than we expected.
3:28And then more so, I think there's some spots where we thought we would get some good performances or good team situations that have not come to fruition.
3:36And that's what makes things even more confusing, frustrating, that variance of fantasy football.
3:41And I think that's the bigger thing, Matt, is as much as we try, and I promise you all out there listening,
3:47watching, following all the content that we put out, both written and video, we are trying our best to sift through all
3:54of this information to give the most actionable stuff.
3:57But at the end of the day, football is going to football.
4:01And in one of the most violent sports that we have, I think variance, right?
4:05The things that you cannot account for, the things that charting or usage or data cannot tell you, like you just have
4:12to be prepared for that to happen inside of a fantasy season.
4:16And more importantly, Matt, how do you adjust when new information enters the fold?
4:20How do you adjust when a Kalief Raymond pops up?
4:23Do you just cover your eyes and ignore it?
4:26Are you like, you know what? Like, maybe, maybe this is part of how it's going to be.
4:31So that variance of the game of football is always just, it's always right there in front of us.
4:37Yeah, 71 yards per game for Kalief Raymond so far.
4:40I think it honestly might have been our, it had to be one of our least watched shows from August.
4:47And I even said this at the time that it was a, it was a very June coded August episode that I
4:53did with Nate Tice during the, during again, the middle of the month.
4:57And it was fantasy vultures, like guys who are going to be better in real life than in fantasy, but, you know, might affect fantasy distribution.
5:05Again, probably one of our least watched shows in August.
5:08I get it from a, from a title perspective, not the most clickable YouTube one, but we talked about Kalief Raymond as
5:15a guy in that episode that is better in real life than in fantasy.
5:19And now he's better in fantasy than we might've thought because of some of that value that he brings to the table here.
5:27So yeah, it's certain situations like this, you know, there's always a chance that we get to week 17 and we think
5:33back, man, wasn't it crazy that Colson Loveland through the first two weeks of the season was averaging 11 yards per game.
5:40And Kalief Raymond was 71 yards per game. There's a chance that that happens.
5:44There's also a chance that he hangs around all season long because it's working for the offense.
5:50That's something that I always, you know, want to put a premium on when it's working for the offense and shoot.
5:56It was really working for the bears last night against the Philadelphia Eagles.
6:00That's something that we always have to consider here.
6:03Just again, I think you're right to point out that a lot of the superstars have been as expected.
6:09It is some of these kinds of secondary actors, even this rounds four to five to six wide receiver range that I really liked picking from.
6:17There's been some okay hits so far, but not really one guy, you know, that off the top of my head that
6:24is absolutely crushing those expectations, the rounds four to five wide receivers.
6:27And like, again, it's, it's been fine. Some of the guys there have been okay.
6:32You know, a Jalen Waddle comes to mind where he's had one really good week and two less so weeks.
6:38You know, that's always going to happen at the wide receiver position, but you know, it's Christian Watson has been great from that range.
6:45Maybe a little bit after Parker Washington, depending on your league format.
6:49I mean, he had like a seventh round ADP for a long time on Yahoo.
6:54It's actually been some of the guys going later that have really boosted Garrett Wilson, the guy that maybe nobody wanted to
7:01draft from that range because it's a jet, you know, that he's actually been really good so far.
7:06So, you know, we'll see as, as kind of as the NFL turns as fantasy turns, how some of these things are sticky and whatnot.
7:14We're going to discuss some of those situations here today on the data dump.
7:18As we always do, we each share five stats.
7:21You need to know heading into the given week.
7:24And we also wrap up this episode with a recap of what's going on in the Yahoo fantasy league.
7:29Some very interesting things going on in the Yahoo fantasy league.
7:33We'll discuss that at the end of the show, but for now, Ray, let's get into it.
7:38Let's get to the week four data dump. Yes.
7:41Science. Calculations are correct. You're going to see some serious.
7:44As always, Ray, I cede the floor to you and let's hear what, let's hear it.
7:49What's your first data point? Yeah. A player that was drafted at the beginning of sort of the draft process in round one.
7:56And then an injury kind of scared people off of them and he fell.
8:00And then right before the season, he kind of started to get that steam back up.
8:05But Ashton Gentry starting running back of the Las Vegas Raiders.
8:09And we see right here, Raider on a lost arc.
8:12Ashton Gentry, the volume is there. He is a volume based running back.
8:16He ranks sixth amongst running backs right now with 63 carries on the season, but his 206 rushing yards have translated to
8:22only 3.3 yards per carry, which is 38th amongst qualified rushers.
8:26The efficiency for the second year running back has declined quickly each week of the season.
8:314.4 yards per carry in week one. And then 2.3 in week two, 2.9 in week three.
8:36And Ashton Gentry, yes, he is yet to score a Russian touchdown this season.
8:40And you see right here on the screen, his longest run, only 15 yards, Matt Harmon.
8:45Despite those 63 attempts, you know, he's only produced nine rushing first downs, a 42.9% rushing success rate.
8:51And according to Sumer Sports, he had a brutal negative 0.29 EPA per rush attempt through week two, a 34.1% success rate,
8:58only 56 yards on 19 carries in week three.
9:00And what's most concerning is no explosive plays from Ashton Gentry.
9:04He's not forcing missed tackles. He's not breaking tackles.
9:07He's getting targeted at a decent clip in the receiving game, but he's dropping a lot of passes.
9:12He's not converting those into usable yards. And then we saw Mike Washington get on the field in week three in a
9:19shootout versus the Raiders, excuse me, versus the New Orleans Saints and played so well that the coach has already come out
9:26to say, hey, he's earned some more opportunity in this offense.
9:29At the end of that game, you did see Ashton Gentry on the sideline, on the bench, getting his ankles worked on, ankles taped up.
9:37So maybe this is something where he's still not quite 100% from the prayer circle and the candles and turned down the
9:43music at practice when he got injured. But this is a little bit of a problem here for Gentry.
9:49Not so much so that you are going to bench him.
9:53You're not going to play him because if you're going to get 20 plus opportunities a game, they'll just bank on the volume.
10:00But I think the bigger fantasy takeaway is if Mike Washington does start to get some sort of role inside of an
10:07offense so far, it's been really good. I would say Clint Kubiak, if you had to give me a vote for early
10:13coach of the year, it would be Clint Kubiak and the 3-0 Raiders.
10:17I know they've got a tough task this week.
10:20What are your thoughts on Gentry, Mike Washington, and is he still lingering from this ankle injury that he had coming into the season?
10:28I would guess so, right? You know, they can call it a low, high ankle sprain, whatever you want to call it,
10:34but it did seem like it was a high ankle sprain to some degree, maybe on the lower variety, whatever.
10:40Still, it takes a minute for those guys to get back into full operational shape.
10:45You know, we talk about it as usually a six-week injury.
10:49So, Gentry's still probably not 100% back from that.
10:51Like, if he still has some lingering effects, that wouldn't be so surprising to me.
10:56You know, and that can easily be the explanation.
10:59You know, he's also not a guy that's going to be overwhelmingly explosive with his runs as it is.
11:05The Raiders are, they're actually from an offensive efficiency perspective, pretty solid.
11:08You know, 18th in the combined metrics that I look at, but it is the dropback EPA that's really lifting that.
11:158th in dropback EPA, 23rd in rush EPA. They're 27th in explosive play rate.
11:19They're not going to get a lot of explosives with this offense, even though Kirk Cousins has pushed the ball down the
11:26field, you know, in a pretty decent variety here.
11:29So, yeah, I mean, I think he's a guy that might never be the most explosive runner in the world, but I
11:35do think, you know, the ankle's getting taped up at the end of that week three game.
11:41I think that makes a lot of sense here.
11:43It is funny, Ray, like the Raiders are 3-0.
11:46Ashton Gentry, from a fantasy perspective, is still a top 10 back in points per game.
11:51Eighth among running backs behind only Gibbs, Walker, Henry, Robinson, Taylor, Swift, McCaffrey.
11:55And yeah, we're still a little like, hmm, is there meat left on the bone?
12:00You could almost kind of take that as a positive in a way.
12:04Yeah, you could. And I think that we're at that point now in this season with multiple running backs where a lot of trade questions are happening.
12:12Do you trade for him in seasonal leagues? Do you trade him away?
12:16And I do think that there are some pivots that you could make with Ashton Gentry if you didn't trust what was
12:23happening or you have a fear that Mike Washington...
12:26I mean, it just... Again, let's just talk ball here.
12:29The eye test, right? When I'm watching that game, that was one of the games I had to cover for the Sunday Night Recap show.
12:36Man, it looked like a whole different running back when Mike Washington was back there.
12:41You're like, oh man, like, whoa. This dude's got some serious, serious juice.
12:45So I wanted to preface this by I'm not insinuating or suggesting you bench him or he's not going to score you
12:52points because he's touching the ball 20 plus times a game.
12:55But Clint Kubiak and company came out already and said, hey, we got to get Mike Washington on the field a little bit more.
13:03So in this kind of spot where people are starting to react, whether it's Hampton, whether it's Janarian Price, you see him on the screen, or Ashton Gentry.
13:11Like, this is a big name. He's still a big-time volume kind of king.
13:15But if you could make a move in your league, like, I wouldn't...
13:19He's not the type of running back that I'd say he's untradeable.
13:23Like, no way I would not move Ashton Gentry.
13:26I'm keeping him no matter what. But I'm a little...
13:29I'm hoping he gets healthy, but it's been a little underwhelming despite the fact that he's getting all the volume still.
13:35Yeah, very fair. I definitely think the one takeaway as we're having this conversation, because I agree with you about Mike Washington,
13:42and I mean, even dating back to the preseason, it's like, you should get this guy on the field more.
13:48Because whereas I said Ashton Gentry might never be a true explosive back, Mike Washington definitely is.
13:54Now, can Mike Washington handle all the work the grinder carries?
13:57Maybe not. Can he do what Ashton Gentry can do as a receiver?
14:01I don't know about that. And that is something to really flag here that's been fascinating to me with Gentry.
14:07I was talking about air yards per target at the running back position.
14:11Typically, you just see these guys getting short area targets and the whole deal.
14:16That is not the case for Ashton Gentry. He is one of just 10 running backs with a 1.0 or higher air yard per target mark.
14:24He is at 1.81. The other few of the guys that are over that only have a small handful of targets.
14:30They don't even have double digits. Cam Scadaboo, David Montgomery, Tony Pollard.
14:34So 16 targets overall for Gentry. 1.8 air yards per target.
14:37Now, he's dropped three passes. As you mentioned, he also has two touchdowns as well.
14:42So there's definitely a guy in there that's been really impactful as a receiver.
14:46You know, producer Collins asked me, I said, the doc is Gentry slash Washington.
14:50This year is Stevenson slash Henderson. I actually think, Ray, and I made this comparison at one point during the preseason.
14:57I think there's a real argument to be made that Gentry is a souped up version of Zach Charbonnet and Mike Washington
15:04is maybe a poor man's Kenneth Walker. And we saw this group with Seattle, obviously, last year with Clint Kubiak, if that makes sense.
15:11It's, I'm smiling and I'm laughing because both of those are really good.
15:15Those are both really good. Is it, would it be worse if I said Gentry is the Najee Harris to the Jalen Warren that is Mike Washington?
15:23I mean, you look at these backfields, right, where there's two guys.
15:27And I think the biggest fear, here's the biggest fear if you have Ashton Gentry, is that Mike Washington actually does start
15:34to get, let's say, eight to ten touches a game, right?
15:37I'm not going ridiculous, but if he's getting eight to ten touches a game and he's explosive, like this is going to
15:44pull the ceiling down from what we all thought Gentry could be because we're still holding on to that draft capital.
15:50We're thinking about that Boise State tape and can this be a 30 carry guy, a 150?
15:56And we saw some of the big games last year.
15:59And I'm not putting all of this on Gentry's skill set.
16:02Sometimes the injury just, it affects how you play.
16:05And this Raiders team doesn't look like they're trying to slow down anytime soon.
16:09So from a team perspective, it makes a lot of sense to get Mike Washington on the field.
16:15Don't put him in your starting lineup yet. But I would absolutely be looking on waivers to see if he were out there just in case.
16:23And it gives me some confidence that if Gentry had to miss, if something happened to the ankle, like they probably would
16:30just fire Mike Washington up and say, let's go see what you can do.
16:34Oh, yeah. He is 34% rostered right now as Mike Washington.
16:37That number has to be a lot higher because if anything did happen to Gentry, they say, hey, we're looking at 3.2 yards per carry on Ashton Gentry.
16:46And we think that is injury based. Let's give this guy a breather because they don't even have a buy until week 13.
16:53They have a pretty late buy here. Let's go ahead and give him a couple weeks, maybe get him back to 100%.
17:00Maybe he misses a game where, OK, it's the Jets in week eight or the Niners in week nine, something like that.
17:07Mike Washington is going to be a guy that everybody wants to start in fantasy because I think he can be really
17:13impactful as a lead back for this team in addition to just being a compliment for Ashton Gentry.
17:19Yeah, he should be pretty close to 100% rostered.
17:22I think I've got him sticking around on a couple of benches.
17:25And definitely he is not somebody I will be dropping at any point for any of the, you know, let's go chase the Dolphins back.
17:33And he's worth it, right, Matt? You'll use a roster spot on him.
17:37You're just like, I'm fine. I know I'm not going to play him right now, but I've got no problem having him on the bench.
17:45No problem. Especially if he does become somebody that is a change of pace back that you can tell yourself a story
17:51about how he has some what the heck flex appeal at some point along the way.
17:56Last thing before we move off this topic, let me ask you an unfair question.
18:01On a scale of one to 10, what's your level of confidence that this is not a fluke for the Raiders?
18:083-0 start. The schedule going forward. Chiefs, Patriots, Bills, Rams, Jets, Niners, Seahawks all the way through to week 10.
18:14Then they just completed before they had that week 13 by Broncos Browns.
18:18So it's a mixed bag of a schedule. What's your level of confidence that this is not a fluke?
18:24They're going to beat New England. I think they're going to give Kansas City a run.
18:28Buffalo, we saw them act a little crazy. I think they're a better team than we thought.
18:34Okay. Are they an undefeated? They're going to run the table?
18:37Probably not because defensively they can still be had.
18:40But this is a much better team and the culture, the way that they're deploying.
18:44I mean, Brock Bowers, just having him back changes the math as well.
18:48Scaled of one to 10, I'm going to be fair to Las Vegas.
18:52I'm going to give them a five. I'm right in the middle with them.
18:57I'm going to straddle the fence here, Matt. I'll give them a five.
19:01I don't think it's a fluke, but I also don't think they're going undefeated for the next five or six weeks.
19:07I don't believe that's going to happen either. I'd agree with that.
19:11I'll give it a six, somewhere between a five and a six, maybe a five and a half and a six.
19:17So yeah, I don't think that I would still be surprised if they make the playoffs at some point.
19:23We don't run out of gas with Kirk Cousins, who's definitely played well, but has also put the ball in harm's way.
19:30I think at some point we want to see Mendoza here.
19:33But hey, that could also sort of stave off this being a fluke if they get him in there and he actually improves the quarterback play.
19:41Not that Kirk Cousins has played poorly, but there's still a lot of things.
19:46There's still just some things you look at from an offensive standpoint that you'd say, okay, this might be a little fluky.
19:53They score a lot of points per drive. They don't possess the ball pretty consistently.
19:57There is a massive gap. They have the third highest gap between their drop back EPA and their rush EPA.
20:03So Ashton Gentium proving actually could really go a long way to making this feel a little more stable.
20:09So yeah, definitely a fantasy hold. Not a guy I'd be selling.
20:13And if he has a couple of slow weeks, maybe they give him a rest here.
20:18We'll see how that goes. Okay, I want to go to my first data point here.
20:23And this is a guy who was definitely drafted earlier than the rounds four to five to six wide receiver range.
20:29And one of the guys that when he's been out there, he has been absolutely worth it.
20:34And that is Zay Flowers. I was tweeting about this earlier in the week, noting that Drake London was second in the NFL in yards per route run.
20:43If you look at wide receivers with 50 plus routes on the season after just one game with Michael Penix, just one.
20:50That's all it took in our Drake London second most efficient receiver in the league.
20:54Somebody asked me, where would Zay Flowers rank on the list?
20:58They said he would have to be first. Indeed, he would be first.
21:02I cut the minimum to 20 routes to find out.
21:05Zay Flowers, nine, just absurd. Nine point three six yards per route run.
21:09Wide receivers, 20 or more routes on the season.
21:12JSN is second with four point three five. Then it's Drake London with that three point eight six.
21:17So yeah, he's number one by a lot more than double the number two receiver there.
21:22He has a first down on 44 percent of his routes.
21:26He's been targeted on 48 percent of his routes.
21:28I mean, Zay Flowers is absolutely breaking the efficiency charts right now.
21:32Of course, he's been a part time player. You know, and I don't mean that in terms of his role.
21:38He just hasn't been on the field consistently because of injuries, everything like that.
21:43You look at a guy that has been, you know, again, it was the injury in week one.
21:48He only played a half. And then this past week, he was kind of more sprinkled in to the mix here.
21:55But we're showing the route chart on the screen here.
21:58And this is just what's so perfect about him in this offense.
22:01So many movement routes. They line him up all over the formation.
22:05Ray, I mean, if he stays healthy, man, he is just going to absolutely go crazy.
22:10I think he's a top 10 receiver rest of season in fantasy rankings.
22:14Matt, this is one man. We're about to toot our horn here because I've been doing this show with you for two years now.
22:21And I feel like a couple of times a year, we just have this Zay Flowers love fest.
22:27And it it never quite hit the level that it's finally feeling like it's about to hit right now.
22:33But you and I have been very big Zay Flowers guys.
22:36And I'm just happy to see it come to fruition for Zay right now.
22:40Right now in my Trinity score usage tracker, he's got the fourth highest Trinity score amongst wide receivers right now in the NFL.
22:48The only wide receivers being utilized by their team more than Zay Flowers right now.
22:52Jackson Smith and Jigba, of course. Chris Olave. Devontae Adams barely edges him out.
22:56And then he and CeeDee Lamb have the same usage score.
23:00I've got Zay Flowers right now. I updated this before last week's game.
23:04So this was before week three. His rest of season projections, I got him at 1245 yards, seven touchdowns and around 16.1 points per game.
23:12He's averaging about 21 points per game right now.
23:14And that's with missing one. So when you're talking about how bullish am I on Zay Flowers?
23:20Yes. And this is part of the reason why we talked about this sometime in the preseason.
23:25And you and I both like Rashad Bateman. But the reality is since 2024, Lamar Jackson does not prioritize the wide receiver two in the offense.
23:33When there's two receivers out there, he's primarily throwing to the number one guy.
23:37And even him running, I believe he only played like 20-something routes, 20-something snaps last week.
23:42He still had 84 yards, right? The Cowboys still said, hey, last play.
23:46Let's play man-to-man coverage and just give him a wide open 30-yard catch.
23:50He's awesome. And when he's on the field, Lamar Jackson is going to hyper-target him.
23:55Just stay on the field, Zay. Just make sure that hammy is good.
23:59Get in the cryo chamber. Do whatever you need to do.
24:02Keep that hamstring intact. You got one of the most efficient quarterbacks in NFL history with Lamar Jackson.
24:08And there just aren't that many threatening options on this team for them to move the ball to down the field.
24:14It's Zay Flowers, Zay Flowers, Zay Flowers. So I'm with you, man.
24:18Fifth best offense right now in terms of the combined efficiency metrics.
24:22They're for the fourth best team in my static score as well.
24:25They're pushing all the right buttons. There's a ton of motion, a lot of heavy personnel.
24:30They're getting under center, 10th highest rate. Play action, 10th highest rate.
24:34Motion, 10th highest rate. Fourth most motion at the snap.
24:37And that is what I think is key here.
24:40Because if you look at Zay Flowers, I was pushed back on people with this.
24:44We're like, well, Zay's small. He's a slot-based player.
24:47He's never been a slot-based player in his entire NFL career before.
24:51He's been more of a Z receiver. But so far in the two games that he's played, 55% snaps in the slot,
24:5810% in the backfield in week one. And then this past week against your Cowboys, 82% snaps in the slot.
25:04And again, he's been targeted six times in each game.
25:07And he's caught five in each game. And he's dropped one pass, which was against the Cowboys.
25:12He had a drop in that game. So it's just like everything is going his way.
25:17He's been super highly targeted. The yards after catch has been there.
25:21The deep passes has been there. Like Declan Doyle calls this game right now, Ray.
25:25Like he thinks Zay Flowers is one of the best players on the planet.
25:30Because everything is designed to get him the good stuff.
25:33And even like Bateman is in the slot on 26% of his snaps in week three, which is unusual.
25:39He's usually a guy that's been sub-10%. Mark Andrews is third on the team in routes with 13 in week three.
25:45He's running – I saw this on Fantasy Points Data today.
25:48He's running some of the deepest routes at the tight end position.
25:52He's a little bit of like a sacrificial player to open things up for the wideouts, which is unusual, right?
25:58So it's just very highly concentrated. Bateman is on the field for 91% of the routes.
26:03Zay Flowers 64%. That's obviously going to go up once he's healthier.
26:07The ball is going to Zay over and over again.
26:10Bateman is like a supporting actor. And Lamar is playing awesome.
26:13So everything to me just says yes on Zay Flowers.
26:16Like I said, top 10 receiver, rest of season rankings.
26:20That might be honestly conservative. You look at the schedule these next two weeks real quick.
26:24Just I'll throw back to you. Titans, Falcons. Like these two next two games, V's Healthy could be Firework Fest as well.
26:31No, Matt, I was just going to push you a little bit.
26:35I mean, do you want to go a little higher?
26:38I don't know if there are nine receivers that I would want over Zay Flowers rest of season.
26:44If you're just thinking about right now, I mean, of course, Jamar Chase.
26:48You've got Jackson Smith and Jigba. Amon Ross St.
26:50Brown. You know, a healthy Nico Collins if he's out there.
26:54But I don't know how many other receivers I would want.
26:57And I think a lot of people are still a little, I think they're still a little afraid, Matt, to put Zay
27:04in that range, to put him in that category.
27:07You know, Chris Olave is definitely up there. Because, you know, he's kind of been a guy that people know has been
27:13good, but it hasn't really hit the way it needed to.
27:17I know he was a Pro Bowl receiver last year.
27:20But, I mean, maybe six receivers, seven receivers that I'll take over Zay Flowers.
27:24A healthy Zay Flowers rest of season. Yeah, I think it's JSN.
27:28I think it's Jamar. I think it's Amon Ross St.
27:31Brown. Those are the ones for sure. Or probably CeeDee Lamb.
27:34Yeah, maybe Chris Olave. And then I kind of think that's it.
27:38Puka Nakua, I don't think so. Not with the way that he is currently injured right in this moment.
27:44Drake London may be an interesting conversation now that Michael Penix is in there.
27:48And, you know, Michael Penix only has one. I got to see it versus somebody other than Green Bay.
27:54But maybe Drake. Very fair. Very fair. You know, and maybe we can also say we should see it with Zay for
28:01someone to get, other than the Colts and the Cowboys, probably two of the worst defenses in the NFL.
28:07But nevertheless, you know, sorry. Sorry, Ray. Nevertheless, I do think we're in pretty lockstep here.
28:12Somewhere between five to seven is where Zay Flowers would be for me in rest of season rankings.
28:17Okay, let's get to your second data point. Where are we going?
28:21All right. Let's talk about more receivers. And I remember us having this conversation and we were a little, even me, I'm just like, could it finally happen?
28:30Garrett Wilson's been in the league for five years now.
28:33Five years now. And he has never, never had a season over 15 fantasy points on a per game basis.
28:39But it might be happening now because Geno Smith, Matt, is playing quietly really, really good football.
28:44Leads the NFL almost 76% completion percentage, which is unreal.
28:47Garrett Wilson last week, 13 targets, 36% target share.
28:50Kenyon Sadiq with Mason Taylor being hurt. Eight targets, 22% share for the rookie.
28:54These two combined for almost 60% of the targets and 66% of Geno Smith's passing yards in two of his three touchdowns.
29:01Again, Adnan Mitchell's got a damn club on his hand.
29:04Brees Hall is going to miss time right now.
29:07Mason Taylor is out, which just gives more opportunity.
29:10Can we want Jets? Do we finally kind of want some Jets?
29:13And is this finally the year we get elite-esque Garrett Wilson?
29:17And when I started tracking usage a long time ago, Garrett Wilson, the first videos that I did, I had no tool.
29:23I was just using fantasy points data before the new data suite.
29:27It was Garrett Wilson, Nico Collins, and Chris Olave.
29:30Just looking at their isolated metrics and how good they were, I'm like, man, if this dude ever gets a quarterback and
29:37maintains this level of usage, he can be a superstar.
29:40And it's been like 14 points, 14 points, kind of mediocre.
29:43But now he's averaging 19 points a game right now.
29:46Garrett Wilson, that is. And we talked about the people that are missing inside of this offense.
29:51I had no clue it was going to take Frank Wright to unlock this thing.
29:56But Garrett Wilson, I mean, we're talking about how high rest of season.
30:00And it still doesn't feel like the fantasy community in general has kind of caught up to how competent and, dare I
30:07say, how good this Jets passing attack looks for Garrett Wilson.
30:10And maybe as well, Kenyon Sadiq, who's going to be everybody's favorite waiver wire target at the tight end position this week.
30:17Very impressed by how Geno Smith is playing no interceptions on the season either to go along with that 75.5% completion percentage.
30:24Like, is this finally the Garrett Wilson season that we have wanted for years unfolding before our eyes, Matt?
30:30I think it might be. You know, the Yahoo Fantasy social team put the graphic out where I can't remember who I was on with.
30:37I think I'm kidding. I really can't remember who it was.
30:41Might have been Chris Allen. I'm not sure. Or I said, you know, I know I could get hurt again with Garrett
30:48Wilson, but I think I'm ready to get hurt again this year.
30:51And you know what? I don't think I'm going to get hurt again this year.
30:56He's balling. He's balling, man. You know, the targets are there.
30:59The opportunity is there. As we're showing here, like the route chart is it's a good mix of layups.
31:05You know, like we're seeing a lot of routes that are under 10 yards close to the line of scrimmage.
31:11Geno's getting those out on time. But there's also these deep out cuts over the middle.
31:16His touchdown catch was fantastic. Now, again, they're coming off a game against the Detroit Lions where everything is going to be shootout city.
31:24It's going to be a big 12 game against the Detroit Lions every single week indoors.
31:29Their secondary can't cover anyone. Their offense can score points.
31:32We know the whole deal there. That being said, Garrett Wilson is awesome.
31:36Geno Smith has played incredible football. The schedule is not too bad going forward.
31:40Talk about a, you know, another game that they against the Bears this weekend.
31:44That could be another high flying affair. There's just a lot to like about the way Geno Smith is playing right now.
31:51And if he can continue to hang on, I think Garrett Wilson can continue to hang on as a wide receiver one
31:58in fantasy because the talent has always been there.
32:01You mentioned the usage has always been there. People, it felt like this offseason, the first time people kind of finally tried
32:07to galaxy brain themselves into a take about, well, actually, maybe it's a little bit of like Garrett Wilson.
32:13He's just not that good. Give me a freaking break.
32:16Use your eyeballs and watch the guy play. He's awesome and he's playing extremely well right now.
32:21Yeah, I don't get it, right? Like we finally get the thing that everybody has been clamoring for for years and people
32:28are still a little skeptical, still a little hesitant.
32:31In my usage tracker, he's got the seventh highest overall usage for a wide receiver in the NFL right now.
32:37Like they are using him like an elite receiver.
32:40There it is right there. I know I could get hurt again, but I think I'm willing to get hurt.
32:46That was from Matt Harmon on drafting Garrett Wilson.
32:49And you said it, right? You were willing to take that risk.
32:53And again, Geno Smith doesn't have to be, he doesn't have to be Josh Allen.
32:57He doesn't have to be Lamar Jackson. What he needs to do is understand the assignment.
33:02And when you look at the Jets, like there are no, especially with Adnan Mitchell out, there are no Nats.
33:08It is very concentrated. It is the ball is going to a couple of people and the route deployment of Garrett Wilson
33:15are the things that you want to see. And Geno's pushing the ball downfield.
33:19Like he's, again, he's not Josh Allen, but he's a lot better than, especially what they had under center last year.
33:26And then trying to deal with the Aaron Rodgers being in, being hurt, them trying to backfield that position.
33:32Again, quietly, he is feeding Garrett Wilson. And we are finally getting a season where I do think he will clear finally
33:3915 fantasy points per game this season. Yeah. And the good news is that the Jets are, you know, not crazy in
33:45terms of some of the schematic buttons that they're pushing, but they are getting under center a decent bit.
33:51There's a little sprinkling of heavy personnel, which we know concentrates the targets to the perimeter receiver.
33:56And yeah, to your point about the Nats for these guys, I actually think everybody here is kind of worth their, you know, weight at this point.
34:05A.D. Mitchell is a guy that in the first two weeks of the season, 25% targets per route, actually more than Garrett Wilson.
34:12He's a viable number two receiver that is going to command some defensive attention, especially because he runs those vertical routes and
34:19can clear things out when Garrett Wilson needs the layups.
34:22You know, obviously there's no Omar Cooper Jr., but Kenyon Sadiq, man, he's another threat.
34:26Like this has been a problem for Garrett Wilson to do where he could concentrate the targets, but also concentrate all of the eyeballs on him.
34:34And they just can't sustain drives. Could this Jets team?
34:37But now, I mean, Sadiq looks awesome. I want to talk about him here for a second, too.
34:43Seven catches 105 yards and a touchdown in week three.
34:46He's another guy that is super low rostered. Of course, if you're listening to this on Wednesday morning on the audio feed,
34:53you already know that this has changed. But if you're watching us live right now on YouTube, which, by the way, if
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35:16I can't imagine there's too many tight ends. Like I pulled up my rankings here for week four.
35:21Ray Sadiq was a guy instantly had to launch up.
35:24I mean, I'm definitely playing him over guys, you know, that were drafted much higher, like Tucker Craft, Colson Loveland.
35:30I'll take the chance on Sadiq in week four ahead of those dudes.
35:34One thousand percent. I'm looking at the usage for the tight ends right now, including week one.
35:40So I'm not even filtering for what he did last week.
35:43But the only ones that have higher overall team usage are Bowers, McBride, Kelsey Kincaid, Schultz, Juwan Johnson, George Kittle, Harold Fannin Jr.
35:50And he is right there layered on top of Tyler Warren and Isaiah Likely, which I think he will fly past Likely after this week.
35:58Oh, yeah. And, you know, we continue to talk about Tyler Warren and how they finally used him more last week out of necessity.
36:05But again, right, not knocking Adnan Mitchell because when he's on the field, he played well.
36:10But the fact that, and I think people are underestimating this.
36:13Braylon Allen ain't taking receiving work from any of these guys.
36:17Like Brees Hall, yes, there was a game this season, I believe week two.
36:21Brees Hall led the Jets in receiving. That will never happen with Braylon Allen.
36:25That is, it will never happen with Braylon Allen.
36:28They are not going to use him as a pass catching weapon.
36:32Three for three yards. That's what he got you in week three.
36:36He'll get an uptick in rushing volume, but I am not anticipating Geno Smith funneling targets to Braylon Allen.
36:42I mean, it could be easy button option city for Kenyon Sadiq, who is a crazy athlete at the tight end position.
36:48I saw a lot of people saying people overthought this one a little bit with Kenyon Sadiq.
36:54And, like, I don't want to go that far.
36:56Tight ends is, rookie tight ends in general are a little tricky, right?
37:00Especially when you're not Brock Bowers right out the gate.
37:03Even Trey McBride took a year before he started to pop off.
37:07But I just think that everything is aligning perfectly for Sadiq and Garrett Wilson to sort of really step up and dominate this Jets passing attack.
37:15Yep. I couldn't agree more with that. Six yards after catch per reception.
37:196.4 to be exact for Kenyon Sadiq. He's been a guy that can create some layups and get some downfield opportunities.
37:26He's running the routes. 57% route participation. Pretty much what you want.
37:2941% snaps in the slot, too. That's another key thing for Sadiq, because he's essentially their slot-based option, especially while Omar Cooper Jr.
37:36is banged up. Yeah, I think this is a fantasy starter right now at the tight end position.
37:42And, you know, this goes back to the show we did with Nate last week where the Jets are a viable offense now.
37:49They are 13th in the combined offensive efficiency metrics.
37:52That's a 17-spot improvement from where they were last year.
37:55Like, we can care about the Jets. Sixth best time of possession.
37:5912th in success rate. And 14th in explosive play rate.
38:02They're actually moving the ball and getting some big plays here.
38:05So we are trusting our Jets. What could possibly go wrong?
38:08Okay, last one before we get to the break here.
38:11Sort of sticking on the theme of recalibrating rest-of-season rankings.
38:15How many fantasy quarterbacks would you honestly take over Brock Purdy right now?
38:19Again, I don't think it is very many. Matchup caveats here are notable.
38:23However, through three weeks of the season, Brock Purdy has authored two of the best quarterback games of the season.
38:29So far from an adjusted net yards per attempt perspective.
38:32Against the Dolphins in week two, 14.86 adjusted net yards per attempt.
38:36That's number one. Number two is Brock Purdy against the Arizona Cardinals, 13.96.
38:40So, yes, obviously those teams are not good. However, this is what you do.
38:44You do great things against bad teams. You smash the cupcakes.
38:47That is what Brock Purdy and the Niners have been doing right now.
38:51I mentioned the offensive efficiency metrics. They are number one so far this season.
38:56Again, matchups matter here. But to be totally fair, to call balls and strikes in the spirit of radical candor, the Niners are not 100% healthy either.
39:04They're losing guys every single week. Trent Williams goes down in week three.
39:08Mike Evans misses some time. I mean, they're playing Kadaryl Hodge.
39:11A ton of snaps in week three. And still Brock Purdy looks amazing.
39:15So, you know, Ray, I'll throw the question to you about who would you rather have over Brock Purdy.
39:21I mean, it's Josh Allen, Lamar. I think the conversation begins after those guys.
39:25I think it ends there. I think it's Josh Allen, it's Lamar Jackson, and it's Brock Purdy.
39:31You see on the screen right here, 297 yards, four touchdowns.
39:34Matt, he did this on 15 completions. I don't even...
39:37Matt, if I just told you going into the week, hey, Brock's only going to complete 15 passes this week, you'd be like, I don't know.
39:45What happened? Yeah, what happened? 300 yards, 34 rushing yards, and he had a rushing touchdown called back on an egregious, awful holding call on George Kittle.
39:53Here's the thing. Brock Purdy's been efficient, man. He has been efficient, and for whatever reason, it took people a long time
40:00to get past the fact that he was Mr.
40:03Irrelevant, that they traded up for Trey Lance. If you had to vote for NFL MVP today, I don't know how Brock
40:10Purdy's not sitting at the top of the list for most folks.
40:13Because he has had to deal with a ton of adversity around him.
40:17Mike Evans limps off the field. Deebo Samuel, you know, second on the team in receiving yards, and he didn't even get a target in the game.
40:26How does that happen, right? This offense, the plate is on.
40:29Brandon Ayuk better thank Kyle Shanahan for scheming him up.
40:32And when you just think about the season when Ayuk had 1,300 yards, he had 100 targets.
40:38Not 100 receptions. 100 targets that season. That is how efficient this Kyle Shanahan offense is.
40:42And, I mean, if he does this, if Mike Evans has to miss any amount of time, and he's throwing the ball
40:49to Jordan Watkins, and whoever, Jacob Cowling, and whoever else they signed.
40:53Matt, how many? Allen, Lamar. I can't. I don't have anyone else, man.
40:57There's no one else. Now, to play devil's advocate here, or maybe to present the other side of the equation, we mentioned all these injuries.
41:05Does the dam break at some point? And does it break this week and next against definitely much tougher defensive competition?
41:11They got Denver at home this week. Then they go to Seattle in week five.
41:16This will really test some of this because those are two much tougher defenses.
41:20Now, the Broncos are a little gettable. You know, they're kind of a – they'll blitz you a good bit.
41:26They heated up Stafford, and obviously they got Stafford a good bit at times.
41:30But Stafford also got some passes off down the field.
41:34That can certainly happen for Brock Purdy. Injuries in the Rams receiver core as well.
41:38Seahawks were gettable against Marcus Mariota, but was that just kind of a weird road trap game?
41:43Potentially. I would be shocked if that happened against the Niners in week five in Seattle.
41:48So definitely big tests here for Brock Purdy, but someone that right now is for sure a QB1.
41:54You're starting every single week. You're not really thinking about it, and we can reassess if he doesn't have good games against these next couple weeks.
42:02But then again, before the bye in week eight, he gets the Commanders.
42:06He gets the Falcons. So there's a lot of gettable spots here for Purdy.
42:10Yeah, and then he gets the Raiders, and then he gets the Cowboys.
42:14So, I mean, is he going to go for 300 yards on 15 completions versus those teams?
42:19Probably not. But you know what, man? If there were an offensive coordinator that I trust to put together the best possible
42:26game plan for their quarterback to have success, it's Kyle Shanahan.
42:30And these two are in lockstep right now with how they're calling plays, how they're executing the offense.
42:35And Brock Purdy's legs, I don't want to diminish this.
42:38I mean, I would love to see the next-gen stats on that run.
42:42He was rolling Brock Purdy. I mean, I'm looking like, is that Mike Vick out there?
42:47We got Mike Vick rolling out there for San Francisco.
42:50But to your point, he's a fantasy QB1. And we talk about it every week, Matt.
42:55Is this a team that could trade for a receiver at some point?
42:59Just they have no choice because they are so banged up.
43:03I'm sure we can think of a couple that could be available in their services, I think, could be used by San Francisco.
43:10So we'll see. We'll see. You know, Kyle is a tough receiver grader.
43:14But they have made mid-season trades before. They traded for Emmanuel Sanders the year that they went to the Super Bowl and
43:20lost against Kansas City Chiefs the first time. So it's definitely not unheard of.
43:25There are certainly some potential disgruntled receivers out there.
43:28So something to monitor. And, yeah, you did mention the name Brandon Ayuk.
43:32I mean, man, guy's got to be. I know he's having fun dancing to, you know, the commander's win against the Seahawks on his Instagram story.
43:40But, my God, he probably should have played his cards better.
43:43Maybe he'd be a part of this team right now.
43:46But water under the bridge. Water. I mean, technically, he is still on this team.
43:51Theoretically, he is on the roster. So, God, yeah.
43:53Any change of heart there, folks? Any change? No, probably not.
43:57All right. We're going to get to our first quick break.
44:00We come back. We're rolling through more storylines, more stats you need to know heading into week four.
44:06We'll get into that right after this. All right.
44:09We're back. Let's get into it here. Ray, what is your third data point heading into week four?
44:14Yeah, I just want to say, man, I think it's important in life to find somebody in life that loves you the
44:21way that Sean McVay loves Kyron Williams. It doesn't matter if he drops the ball, fumbles the ball.
44:26Kyron Williams is inevitable to be on the field and be productive for us in fantasy football.
44:32Will the real Rams please stand up? And I know they were kind of playing catch-up to a degree last week versus the Denver Broncos.
44:39But Kyron Williams, six to seven targets, 70 yards in week three, more receiving yards than Jameer Gibbs or Christian McCaffrey, 88
44:46rushing yards on the ground, 158 yards from scrimmage without scoring a touchdown.
44:50And we know that he commands that goal line work.
44:53But when you look at this Rams team, right, dropping back 59 out of 82 plays last week, 72% dropback rate, 25 routes to Blake Quorum's 13.
45:02Quorum has a role on this team, but it ain't the valuable one, right?
45:06It's still Kyron Williams. And now that we're dealing with the Rams team, and I don't know how you feel about everything
45:13that seemingly comes out or does not come out about Puka Nakua.
45:16He's hurt. Terrence Ferguson banged up. Colby Parkinson banged up.
45:19I'm looking at Kyron Williams like, could he be just a super sneaky running back to just be dominant with his work
45:26in the receiving game, partly due to injury necessity?
45:29The Rams want to run a lot of heavier personnel sets.
45:32And when you look at that running back distribution, it is Kyron Williams is the pass catcher here.
45:38He is one of the most utilized and deployed wide running backs in a receiving role right now in the NFL.
45:44Surprisingly, about 11 points per game for Kyron Williams.
45:47It's coming from the receiving game for him this season, which was shocking to kind of dive into.
45:53But I'm looking at this Rams high flying attack.
45:55You've got Matthew Stafford, got Tay Adams doing his thing out there.
45:59But without Puka, without Terrence Ferguson, sure, Tyler Higby saw that uptick in usage.
46:03But I'm looking at Kyron Williams. Like, you got kind of like a mini wide receiver in your running back spot.
46:10And one of the things that I always say is there's a difference between running backs who catch passes and running backs
46:17who can be deployed as pass catching weapons. I still don't think Kyron Williams is what you would classify as a pass catching weapon.
46:24But he's a lot better than just like a dump off option for the Rams right now for an offense that we think to be pretty good.
46:32That's hurting right now. Like, how aggressive should we be on ranking, prioritizing Kyron Williams moving forward, especially with some of the
46:39injuries that the Rams are facing on their offensive side of the ball?
46:43Yeah, I have missed my 12th running back this week, you know, ahead of some decent names here.
46:49I mean, I'd rather have Kyron Williams and Saquon Barkley right now based on what I've seen from the Eagles offense.
46:55And it comes down to this pass catching role that you're talking about here.
47:00And this is a really good find by you.
47:02And it's interesting. We talked about those running back air yard per target marks earlier.
47:07Kyron Williams, 4.92, which he's sixth in routes overall, 4.92 air yards per target.
47:11That's crazy high. Again, I know that doesn't seem like much, but at the running back position, again, among guys that have double digit targets.
47:19Number two is Devon Achan, 2.4. Christian McCaffrey is number three, 2.0.
47:23Jameer Gibbs, number four, 1.95. We mentioned Ashton Gentry, 1.81.
47:26Only six guys have double digit targets and are over one area.
47:29But shoot, only those guys are over 0.7 area yards per target because Kenneth Walker is seventh and he's at 0.61.
47:36So abnormal downfield usage for Kyron Williams. Maybe need to dig more into the specifics on that.
47:41But I mean, this has not been normal for his NFL career.
47:45This is definitely a different wrinkle. Wonder if there's something to it.
47:49I mean, you look at just him from a receiving perspective.
47:52He actually did get going a little bit downfield last season to 2.66 area yards per target, which was a marked difference from his first three seasons.
48:00He had 50 targets, 36 catches for 281 yards.
48:03So far, he already has 12 targets, 11 catches, 106 yards, 35 yards per game, which is up from 16.5.
48:09So definitely a jump up from a receiving usage standpoint for Kyron Williams, which, yeah, I mean, they need to find ways
48:16to move the ball through the air. I wonder how much of this has been on checkdowns versus design stuff.
48:22I'd have to do a deeper dive on that.
48:25But yeah, really good note by you here because his receiving usage has been unique.
48:29Not just the results, but the way they're doing it, too.
48:33I went back just to go back a little bit.
48:362021 and 2020, I went back to those Notre Dame receiving stats.
48:40But his final two seasons in college, 77 receptions, averaged 8.7 yards in his career at Notre Dame.
48:45So coming out, I know he was not drafted high, but this is a player who can catch the ball.
48:51Again, I mean, I kind of started this off by saying he's not a pass-catching weapon, but I had no clue that
48:58the four— you said the second air yard running back was A-Chan at two, so he's doubled up.
49:04The second guy in Devon A-Chan, yeah, I mean, again, you've got Matthew Stafford, the reigning NFL MVP.
49:09You've got a good offense, and then you've got consolidation and concentration.
49:13You don't have to agree that Kyron Williams is one of the best receiving running backs in the NFL.
49:19I think if you put a poll out there, most people would say no, right?
49:23If you just put as Kyron Williams one of the best receiving running backs in the NFL, I guarantee you the poll
49:30would probably say no, but you start looking at some of these numbers, Matt Harmon, and I'm like, we already know that
49:37Sean McVay trusts him to run the ball between the tackles and at the goal line.
49:42If he can command a little bit more opportunity in the receiving game, I saw one of the tweets on there from Ian Hart.
49:49It's like he is, I want to say, underrated at the position and what he can give you right here.
49:55Remember, rushing success rate, Kyron Williams in 2023. So this is RB, NFL RB leader in rushing success rate, defined as runs
50:02that have gained 40% of yards, require first down.
50:05Kyron Williams 2023, 60%. Kyron Williams led in 2025, 63%.
50:08And right now, 63.2% Kyron Williams at the top.
50:11So not one of the guys that you consider one of the best.
50:15It is pretty frustrating because I can also put a graphic up here.
50:19Running backs who have fumbled the most over the last three years, and Kyron Williams' names would be at the top of this list.
50:26But Sean McVay loves him, and he trusts him.
50:29So I think for fantasy football, here's a question for the audience and for you.
50:34Right now, Matt Harmon, rest of season, Kyron Williams or the aforementioned in the show Ashton Gentry?
50:39Hmm. I think I'll go Kyron there. I mean, there's always the specter that, you know, Blake Quorum is going to take work from him.
50:47But yeah, I think I would go Kyron. You think, right?
50:50Like, yes, 11 points per game for Kyron right now is going through the air.
50:55He is being used like a pass-catching weapon in the receiving game.
50:58And it might be out of necessity, but what they have not done is they haven't used Blake Quorum like that.
51:05Right? So even if Quorum is taking some work on the ground, they have not deployed him in the receiving game the way that they're using Kyron Williams.
51:13So it's, again, sometimes you just, if you take a step back and kind of look at it, I know that the
51:20initial question, you're like, oh, it's got to be gentey, right?
51:24It's got to be gentey. And then you start looking around and you're like, hell, it might be Kyron Williams, you know?
51:30And I didn't mean to put you on the spot, Harmon, but that's how undervalued I think Kyron Williams is right now,
51:37especially with what's going on in this Rams offense.
51:40Yeah. Listen, it's a really interesting one. I think it's fascinating.
51:43And I'm in on it. I'm in on the Kyron Williams stuff.
51:47Again, just did a little dive on the actual targets here.
51:50So he has two targets and 2.5 air yards per target on checkdowns, according to Fantasy Points data.
51:56He has 10 other targets that are not checkdowns, 5.1 air yards per target on those in particular.
52:01So, yeah, a lot of interesting stuff going on with the Kyron Williams usage as a receiving standpoint.
52:07So, yeah, I think it's Kyron Williams over Ashton Gentry.
52:10I'm not 100% convinced on that, but I think it is.
52:13I'd have to think more on that one. Okay.
52:16My third data point heading into week number four, Terry McLaurin.
52:20He got going in week three, despite a tough matchup.
52:23I certainly hand up, did not see this one coming.
52:26Terry McLaurin, 88.6% route participation. No one else had higher than 77%.
52:29He had a 30% target share. It was 23% for Stefan Diggs, very concentrated between those two guys.
52:35So why did this happen for Terry McLaurin against the Seattle Seahawks?
52:39Couple things to note here. One, they have indeed moved Terry around more this year.
52:43Now, Diggs is the primary slot guy. That's for sure.
52:46But 21.6% slot rate is Terry McLaurin's highest since 2021 on the season.
52:50That's pretty electric, right? That's good to see. The other thing that was different in week three than the previous weeks, Trelon
52:57Burks actually ran more routes than Antonio Williams for the first time this season.
53:02And if you just look at the targets per route run, I think this really shows you the difference between these two guys.
53:09Trelon Burks, his average depth of route is very, very deep.
53:12Whereas Antonio Williams is actually going to get some of the designer stuff.
53:16He's going to get some quick looks. 10.5% targets per route rate for Trelon Burks in week three.
53:22It's 40% for Antonio Williams, who ran the same amount of routes as Deami Brown.
53:26When it's Trelon Burks as that third receiver, that's going to funnel looks to Terry McLaurin.
53:31Because I know Burks had a touchdown in week three, but he's Trelon Burks.
53:35He's not getting a lot of opportunities. He's not separating the whole deal.
53:39Antonio Williams, he does get some looks. He does get some playing time, and when he does, he gets the football because he has been separating.
53:47So really strong indication here that McLaurin, when it's Burks as the third receiver, and we'll see what it looks like this
53:54week, he can get more of those looks. The targets are going to go his way as opposed to when Williams is on the field.
54:02He's been a highly utilized player from a targets per route perspective.
54:06So we'll see about that over the course of the season.
54:09But I think that's part of the explainer. In addition to the fact that they have indeed moved him around more, he
54:16had a vertical route, a corner route, a couple of them from the slot.
54:20I think that actually kind of will keep up here as well.
54:24So big game for Terry McLaurin against the Seahawks, and he has a nice matchup in week four against the Colts.
54:30Yeah, this is one I think we were all...
54:33I don't think anybody was out on Terry McLaurin after the first two weeks.
54:37I just think people were kind of indifferent. I'll admit.
54:40Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just kind of like, hey, man, what's going on here?
54:45So to see him bounce back to the tune of nine targets, six catches, 77 yards, and a touchdown, and by far
54:52the highest and most heavily utilized wide receiver against a very difficult matchup, I think hat tip to Marcus Mariota, who is
54:59clearly, I'd say, probably the best backup quarterback in the NFL and looked very functional back there, albeit at home.
55:05I know it was only 183 yards, three touchdowns, but this is against the reigning Super Bowl champs, this defense that is all world.
55:12And Marcus Mariota was efficient. He got the ball to his big-time guys.
55:16Yeah, Traylon Burks scored. And I think with him, because I think it was last week.
55:21It was last week's game. Was that when they played the Cowboys?
55:25He almost caught a touchdown in that one. He had like one deep shot in the game, but he's not going to
55:32be a big target earner in the offense. Like Burks has a role.
55:36Go do some stuff. Open it up. And maybe that helps out Terry McLaurin to a degree, but good for Scary Terry because he's a really good receiver.
55:44He's somebody that you talked about those middle round wide receivers at the beginning of the show when we were talking about
55:51after like round five, some of those guys that you wanted to play well.
55:56You thought that Jaden Daniels could elevate them and you get some better production than where you were drafting them.
56:02Like I think this was a really positive step in the right direction for McLaurin.
56:06It was good to see him get in the end zone.
56:10And I watched his body language. It looked like a sigh of relief for him when he got in the end zone.
56:17He was like, hey man, I'm still good. I know it's been a little rocky.
56:21And he's somebody that you and I talked about going into the year last year.
56:26Matt, you had asked me, you were like, Ray, are you a little nervous about him?
56:31He didn't play all training camp. And I was like, ah, nah, Matt, everything would be good.
56:36And it wasn't good, right? Like he looked rusty.
56:39He did not look to himself. If we can get Terry McLaurin playing like he did a couple of years ago, I
56:45think that's good for everybody in fantasy football as well as for the commanders.
56:50Yeah, no doubt. And I think some of the routes that he's running right now, I charted his week two game, 32% slant, 19% curl, 19% dig.
56:58It's less of the vertical. We had a couple of big vertical wins in week three against the Seahawks.
57:04He actually got, it was mostly Josh Jobe, according to Sumer Sports, four targets, three catches, 41 yards in the touchdown on Josh Jobe.
57:11But like these quick slants that we're seeing here, some of the quick in breakers, stuff like that, that's new for McLaurin,
57:18who usually was running more vertical route tree. So shout out to Marcus Mariota, played a good game in week three.
57:25We might get Jaden Daniels back at some point.
57:27He did avoid having surgery, or at least he's going to pass on having surgery.
57:32So we'll see how that one goes. But good for Terry McLaurin to get off the map.
57:37And I do think he's someone that you can consider starting against the Colts in week four, because that's a gettable defense
57:44that plays a lot of man coverage. And Terry's always been a good man coverage receiver.
57:49Okay, Ray, let's get to your fourth data point heading into week four.
57:53Yeah, this might be one of the most pleasant surprises at one of the onesie positions in fantasy football.
57:59Juwan Johnson's playing like one of the best tight ends in the NFL.
58:03Tyler Shuck right now is averaging a league high 44 pass attempts per game.
58:07His 917 passing yards second in the NFL. And that level of volume for this Saints team has led Juwan Johnson to
58:1419 targets, 173 yards, both top six marks amongst the tight end positions.
58:18Juwan Johnson has received five of the New Orleans Saints 11 targets inside the 10 yard line, giving them that premium money
58:25down roll inside of the inside of that goal line area, that red zone area for Tyler Shuck.
58:30Last week, 31 routes to no offense, 17. I don't know if you knew this, Matt, but there was an NFL record set in that game.
58:38Six touchdowns between the tight ends in that game.
58:41Hasn't happened since 1981. I was not even alive when the last time that that happened.
58:46Six damn touchdowns by the tight end position. But I think this, there are a couple of things here.
58:52One, it feels really good because he was somebody that was drafted outside of probably like the top 15 wide receivers coming into the season.
58:59He was good last year. He actually played with Tyler Shuck for a season in college.
59:04That's how old the both of them are. More importantly, Tyler Shuck.
59:08But Juwan Johnson is quietly playing like one of the best tight ends in football.
59:13And that's with him fumbling the game away at the end of the year.
59:17He's third in overall total points in PPR formats.
59:20Like, you feel great about Juwan Johnson. And Devon Vele has been a really good number two kind of compliment to Chris Olave.
59:27But he's not a true, like a true volume threat for anybody else in that offense, which ancillary side note should make
59:34you feel really good if Jordan Tyson can get back on the field.
59:38But right now, I mean, Juwan Johnson, in my opinion, he's locked and loaded starting tight end week in and week out.
59:44Like, I'm not overthinking this one. He was good last year.
59:48He's in one of the best roles right now.
59:51And the environment is extremely fruitful with how much they throw the ball.
59:55I got no arguments on this one. Schedule's good coming up here.
59:58They have the Falcons this week. Now, they have the Vikings in week five.
60:03That's going to be a tougher matchup. But, you know, you can get that team over the middle of the field if
60:09you can solve some of the zone coverage looks.
60:12So there's that there. I would also say, too, just look at the routes run.
60:17I mean, because of how many plays the Saints run and the pace at which they play, 45.7 routes per game for
60:24Devon Vele, number one in the NFL. Chris Olave, 44.
60:27I agree with you. Jordan Tyson, if he can get back there, he's going to be playing a lot.
60:33But then Jawan Johnson's 35. That's second at the tight end position is Jawan Johnson behind only Trey McBride, 36.
60:39Brock Bowers only played one game, but he ran 35 routes.
60:42Like, these are the guys. The only other one who runs a ton of routes and just doesn't get any looks is
60:49Kate Otten, which is interesting enough because 34.7 routes per game.
60:52But for the most part, you're on the field running routes at that level at the tight end position.
60:58You're going to be involved. You're going to be involved a ton.
61:02Speaking of being involved a ton, my fourth data point heading into week four.
61:06Jalen Warren was a workhorse in week three, and it was pretty damn good results for Jalen Warren.
61:12There have only been seven games so far this season where a running back has seen over 90% of the backfield touches for his team.
61:19James Cook against the Lions, 100%. Jonathan Taylor against the Ravens, 96%.
61:23Devon HN against the Raiders, 94%. Jonathan Taylor, once again, 93%.
61:26Jameer Gibbs against the Saints, 92%. Jameer Gibbs against the Bills, 92%.
61:30Jalen Warren against the Bengals, 90.9%. 91%. I mean, that's the type of stuff you get into the Jonathan Taylor, the James Cook, the Jameer Gibbs usage.
61:38These are guys we were drafting in the first two rounds of fantasy drafts if you throw HN in the mixer.
61:45But for the most part, these are all first round picks in fantasy.
61:49The average points scored in those seven games, 21.5%.
61:52If Rico Dowdle is out, Jalen Warren is in your fantasy lineup, and you don't ask any questions about it.
61:58I honestly, this was fun to see. And this was against the defense that people were starting to think, hey, this Dexter Lawrence led front.
62:06You know, Bucky Irvin didn't do much. And next week, they didn't do much.
62:10And then Jalen Warren. And it should have been a bigger day.
62:14I mean, he hit a landmine in the field and fell down.
62:17He should have scored a touchdown in this one.
62:20I'll just say this. There was some chatter on X that, like, Eli Heidenreich was going to get touches and all of that.
62:27And, folks, he's locked and loaded. He's locked and loaded in your lineup.
62:31I thought he looked great. And then the three for 49 through the air, that's just, that's like a cherry on top of the cake right there, Matt.
62:40So I've got nothing else to add. But I'm firing up Jalen Warren across all formats and all leagues if I have him.
62:47I will believe that Aaron Rodgers is going to allow a converted receiver running back hybrid at a Navy rookie, like seventh
62:54round pick Eli Heidenreich on the field for passing downs.
62:57I will believe that when I see it. Okay.
62:59But for the most part, I think we're going to be seeing a lot of Jalen Warren on the football field.
63:06So Browns in week four. Yep. If Rico Dowdle misses another game in week five, I would guess he, I would guess Rico misses on the short week.
63:15He didn't participate in practice on Monday. Maybe I'm wrong.
63:18We'll see week five Colts. That's another really good matchup as well.
63:21Just a ton of good games here coming for Jalen Warren.
63:25So if you drafted him, congratulations. I think you got yourself a fantasy starter, a great flex play, probably because you have
63:32two other good running backs, but he's somebody you should be putting in your lineups.
63:36No question going forward. Okay. Ray, your fifth and final data point heading into week four.
63:41Yeah, I've seen, uh, I've seen our counterpart, Josh Norris talking about this player a little bit, and I get it that
63:48the Miami dolphins are not a good team, but it's Malik Washington kind of like some buried treasure in Miami.
63:54Now that Devon H and unfortunately is on IR, he got sort of the scam targets inside of this offense, 10 targets, two carries 27% target share Miami.
64:03They're going to have to drop back a lot.
64:05I don't think they're running the ball on anybody moving forward with Ali Gordon or Jalen Wright.
64:11So I guess my quick question to you, just looking at Malik Washington, and this is a player that I liked coming out of college.
64:18I do think that in the right offense, he could be PPR scam ish with the right quarterback, but out of necessity
64:25here, like is Malik Washington, somebody we should be putting bids in off of waivers.
64:30I think Norris said, Hey, I'm not, I'm not worried about Ali or Jalen Wright.
64:34Give me Malik Washington. Oh yeah. I just forget about it with Ali Gordon, Jalen Wright.
64:39If I'm wrong about this, you can come light me up in the comments later.
64:44You can add me on Twitter. If those guys end up being great picks, totally fine at me anywhere at me on,
64:51at me on threads at me on whatever. Okay.
64:53If I end up being wrong about that, that's fine.
64:57Shoot. But listen, I don't, it wasn't happening for a chain.
65:00You think it's going to happen for the backups at the running back position for Miami.
65:05I doubt it. Malik Washington. I actually am with you.
65:08He was a prospect. I liked as well. I thought he was like a day two guy that falls in the draft
65:15because he had a little bit of a neck issue.
65:18Now he's been used as mostly a scammy designed targets player through the first couple of years of his career, but I
65:25think he can win on his routes, but he also will continue to get some of those design targets too.
65:31He also has three rush attempts on the season so far.
65:34I talked about that yesterday with Boone. So there's something here for him.
65:38There's something here. And I just feel like the, the, the, are the dolphins, not just going to have to go super pass heavy.
65:46There's no way. I know they've played super slow pass rate over expected is in the toilet.
65:51But you would just imagine that now at this point with the way that we're going to be looking, I mean, it's, it is crazy.
65:58The dolphins are so bad and they're 31st and pass rate over expected.
66:02Like they're trying to establish the run. They play with the slowest pace in the NFL.
66:07There's no, they can't keep doing that. I can't imagine with a chant out of the mix here.
66:13They might have the worst pass defense I've ever seen in the NFL.
66:17Like they make your, they make the 2025 Cowboys look good.
66:20Okay. That's how bad they are. So yeah, to me, what, I'm just using a recent example that people can, people can remember.
66:27Okay. Just using a recent example, right? Just, just, just citing, just citing a recent example from recent NFL history that people
66:34can remember how bad that Cowboys defense was last year.
66:37Okay. Don't, don't, don't be offended. Yeah. It's bad.
66:40I'm not even talking. I'm not talking about this year.
66:43I'm talking about last year. A 0.408 EPA per drop back allowed by the Dallas Cowboys last year.
66:49That was by far the worst in the NFL this year for the Miami dolphins.
66:53Pretty close. Okay. Pretty close in terms of the EPA per drop back allowed.
66:58All right. So listen, 0.46. It's worse. Cowboys, by the way, are actually 0.408 again in terms of the EPA allowed.
67:04So look at that. What do you know? They're really bad.
67:07They're really bad again this year. That's pretty funny when you think about the Cowboys.
67:12All right. Anyways. I actually think I had the EPA numbers mixed up there.
67:16Excuse me. Yeah. It was 0.397 for the Cowboys last year.
67:2031st. The dolphins were worse last year. 0.6 points.
67:23Give, give us every point we can have, man.
67:25Yeah, you're right. You're right. I misspoke. They're actually worse this year from an EPA allowed perspective than they were last year,
67:32the Dallas Cowboys, but somehow the dolphins are also worse than all these teams.
67:36They're worse than the 32 versions from last year.
67:39They're there 32nd. Again, they might be the worst pass day fence we've ever seen.
67:44So you'd think Malik Washington, these guys have to get it going here.
67:48And I like, by the way, how the receiver room kind of works, Ray.
67:52You think about Caleb Douglas when he's healthy as the vertical X, Chris Bell, kind of a movement guy.
67:58And then Malik Washington, they've been using him on downfield routes too.
68:02Yeah. There's again, when the coach comes out before the season and says, we're not evaluating this team on wins and losses
68:08this year, that lets you know you're in for a rough ride with Jeff Halfley.
68:13But I do think that if you look at all the weapons, and I'm glad you brought up Chris Bell's name, Bell
68:20and Malik Washington, especially with Caleb Douglas right now nursing that injury, like, and if you watch that game, they were competitive in that game against Kansas City.
68:29They were. It was not like they went out there and just got foot put in them.
68:34They were competitive. And Malik Willis looked a little bit better.
68:37It's not going to equate to wins, but we're just talking about, can we find some cheap fantasy production?
68:43I think Malik Washington, Chris Bell could provide that out of just strictly pure necessity because I'm with you.
68:49And I think you nailed it. If it didn't happen for Devon H and dude, like, I mean, come on.
68:55I was an Ollie guy, but I just don't, I don't have a lot of confidence in that Russian attack right now.
69:02Yeah. Here's the one problem with all this, like, oh, interesting.
69:05These Dolphins receivers, this and the other, they play the Vikings this week.
69:09Okay. All right. Are they going to score? Are they going to score any points against the Vikings?
69:15I don't know. We'll see. So speculative pickup for maybe the weeks where, oh, they play the Bengals in week five.
69:21Like maybe we can get in the Jets in week seven after the bye.
69:26You know, maybe that could be fun. We'll see.
69:28Okay. But speculative pickup. I do like me some Malik Washington though.
69:32So I am rooting for him because I was so mean to you Cowboys nation producer Colin.
69:37I can hear him in my ear crying in the, in the background.
69:41I'll, I'll, I'll pick on another NFC East team here with my fifth and final data point heading into week four.
69:48All that off season talk about the Eagles change in the passing game lies lies at least so far through three weeks.
69:54Very little has changed structurally in the Eagles passing game compared to previous versions.
69:59They rank dead last in play action rate this year.
70:02It is down from 24.3% to 9.3%. That's not so their use of heavy personnel is also down this year.
70:08That's obviously due to injuries, but you know, Dallas got her not available.
70:12They got to sign Zach hurts off the waiver wire.
70:15They got a, you know, Johnny months, the other tight end Eli Stowers hurt grand Calcetara.
70:20I get it. That part is maybe a little bit unfair, but they're mostly like a spread offense.
70:26Their under center rate is still up, but it's just 26th in the league.
70:30So there's no under center. There's no play action.
70:33And they're 30th in motion rate this year. According to fantasy points data, guess where they were last year?
70:3930th. Really? The only thing that's changed is actually the run game.
70:42Structurally, their zone rushing rate in terms of percentage of carries is up.
70:46Okay. We're implementing some of that outside zone. Well, the success rate has fallen from 10th to 20th this year.
70:52So it's changed not for the better in the run game.
70:56And in the past game, we're not seeing really any of these fun bells and whistles that were promised from, you know,
71:03kind of the green Bay ish mold or the Rams or whatever you want to say from Sean Manning coming in here,
71:09it looks very, you know, Nate and I have made this comparison.
71:13It looks very Russell Wilson coded for Jalen Hurts, where every offense just kind of ends up looking the same overall here.
71:20And that's what we've seen at least through three weeks.
71:23Maybe it changes, but through three weeks, Ray, more of the same for Philadelphia.
71:27Yeah, not good. I mean, this, it, I don't know how we talk about embarrassing losses all the time on the Sunday recap show.
71:35We talk about embarrassing losses. I don't care if they were on the road, this, they look inept offensively in this game.
71:41And we heard a lot of conversation coming into the season about Jalen Hurts throwing over the middle of the field more.
71:48I'm looking at his, like a chart of all of his passes and where they are short, right?
71:5441% of his past attempts are to the short, right?
71:5725% short left and only 14% are short middle passing attempts.
72:00Deep middle of the field, 2% of his passes.
72:03So they are not attacking the middle of the field at all.
72:07It is out routes and flat routes. And let's try to throw the ball towards the sideline.
72:12And we don't know how to use Makai Lemon.
72:15And let's just throw it up and pray that Devante Smith can make a ridiculous catch.
72:20Their offensive line is a problem. They really can't run the ball.
72:23It, it, it, I don't really know what to say besides this is pretty disappointing.
72:28And I had no clue that some of the numbers were as bad as they were until I read them on the show sheet today from you.
72:36So yeah, no bueno in, in Philadelphia. And I'm sure even AJ Brown with his hurt ankle is looking at this thinking,
72:43yeah, I don't miss that one bit. Yeah. I mentioned my static score a lot in terms of offensive design.
72:49They're 32nd. They're the dead last team ranked there.
72:52So it's just, it's not great for what we're seeing in Philadelphia right now.
72:56Yeah. The, the Makai Lemon stuff, it sucks. Like throw that, throw those plays in the trash.
73:01Okay. And I'm not even saying like Makai Lemon, I'm not saying at all Makai Lemon sucks.
73:07I actually plays are awful, Matt. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to see a pass to him behind the line of scrimmage again.
73:15All right. And, and this is one of those things too, where, you know, I love, I love Devante Smith.
73:21I was going to, going to bat for him last night on social media being like, oh yeah, I remember when people
73:28thought this guy couldn't win as an outside receiver against man coverage because he was too small.
73:33Well, it turns out he was, he's been great against it ever since he's hit the NFL field.
73:38When your other receiver is like 170 pounds, you're not going to get a lot of the blocks in the screen, get
73:45the screen game stuff just looks so bad. So Lemon gets smacked behind the line of scrimmage.
73:50He's not even really a, they use them kind of like Jaden Reed in the offense.
73:55He's not Jaden Reed. He's not, he's it's, that's not, it's just very weird.
74:00And I know he's coming off of, of lost training camp and that's got to be a big part of it.
74:06But I mean, give me a break with this lemon stuff.
74:10Like let's use him as a, it's like they've got the right pre-snap.
74:14He's like a on ball slot receiver. I like that part of it, but let's get his routes a little bit more
74:20activated here down the field a bit. Dante Binks has been solid.
74:24Smith has been good. The receiving talent is good, but they're not doing a lot schematically to help these guys out.
74:30You got Nick Sirianni calling opposing opposing teams, you know, some, some unsavory names.
74:35You got big Dom camera hunting. It's just more of the same for Philadelphia right now.
74:40Does it get better? Do you, do you think, cause that's what we do.
74:44We do a lot of hoping in fantasy football.
74:47Do you, do you think this gets better in any way, shape or form?
74:51Where's the light at the end of this? How far down the tunnel is the light, Matt?
74:56Can we, can you see it? Are you squinting?
74:59Is there any light at the end of this tunnel?
75:02A run game doesn't get better. I think the past game actually will get a little bit better.
75:08So this, these are guys I think I'd hold out hope for.
75:11Cause this is a big schematic left turn. And the, I said this a lot during the off season.
75:17This remains how I felt the schedule the first three weeks.
75:21It did make me kind of maybe squint at what I was saying.
75:25Like, could they get off to a hot start?
75:27Because they played the commanders, the Titans and the bears turns out.
75:31No, this is going to be a slow start team to sort of get going on offense.
75:36They're two in one. The sky is not falling.
75:39I think the defense let them down more than the offense.
75:43I don't know. That might not even be true, but Ben Johnson was cooking.
75:47I'm going to talk about this with Josh and Hayden tonight on stats versus film.
75:52So after you watch this live show, you go watch the two hour live show.
75:56They're just content, content, content. We'll talk about more of how Ben Johnson cooked that defense up on that show.
76:02So yeah, again, I think it will get better, but a lot of the same so far for the Philadelphia Eagles with Jalen hurts a quarterback.
76:10And that's just, maybe that is what it is.
76:13Maybe this is always going to happen with hurts.
76:16Cause this is how some quarterbacks operate. Okay. We are going to take our last break of the show.
76:22We come back. We got an update on the Yahoo fantasy league, an update.
76:26I'm very excited to talk about. We'll get into that right after this.
76:30Welcome to the Yahoo fantasy expert league recap show.
76:33And you know what? I'm going to say expert league.
76:36Sometimes I don't, I don't like the word expert.
76:39I'm pretty, if you're watching the show, you can tell that, but listen, when you're three and O in the league, you know what?
76:46Why not call it the expert league? Why not say like, yeah, you know what?
76:51This is a league of esteemed experts, the best minds in their field.
76:55And you know what? I'm undefeated. All right. Am I peaking too early?
76:59That's not what they're saying. The people are saying I'm establishing momentum for the rest of the season.
77:04Here is your week three recap. Yeah. Theoretically I'm tied.
77:07All right. I don't care what the points. Okay.
77:10There's three, three and O teams. Scott Pienowski, number one with the most points scored.
77:15That's great. Max, the onesies. Remember when we're all like, dude, what are you doing?
77:19Taking those onesie positions? Well, he's been great. He's been pretty dang good.
77:23I'm also three. You know, though, let's get into the recap here.
77:27This is what happened in week three, starting with my game.
77:30Harmon's deep threats because I never changed the default name here.
77:34Can't do it now. I'd love to have a creative name, but we can't disrupt team chemistry.
77:39We sunk the proton torpedoes in week three. Nothing overly fancy about this three and O start.
77:44Okay. Here's the deal, though. I've got 40 points combined from James Cook and Derrick Henry.
77:49Like I said, we're boomer balling again in 2026.
77:52Yes. I love wide receivers. I chart wide receivers all day long, but it's the running backs that are going to carry me to success.
78:00As long as these guys can stay healthy. Also, talk about a little PPR scam going on here.
78:05We got Tyler Warren. We got Josh Downs. The comments were like, how can you have both of these guys?
78:11Well, when the ball only goes three places in the Indianapolis Colts offense, Josh Downs, Tyler Warren.
78:17I'm feeling pretty good. Emeka, Buka, Jalen Waddell. Those have been up and down performances.
78:21Mostly down. Except one game for Jalen Waddell. You know, who cares?
78:25As for Eric, things could be looking up. Braylon Allen is on his bench.
78:29So no waiver wire action on Braylon Allen. But, you know, there's a lot to work on here for Eric coming out of this week.
78:37He had some unfortunate, disappointing performances. He did at least finally get away from the Kyle Pitts disaster.
78:43Unfortunately, Dalton Schultz didn't continue the scam that he got in week two.
78:47Was it? Yeah, week two. Okay. So there we are.
78:50Here we are. What do we think, Ray? What a beautiful team I've put together.
78:5420 points on the bench from Michael Wilson. Yeah.
78:57Yeah. I think, you know, the call to sit Justin Herbert was bold, but it didn't really hurt you, right?
79:03Only a two-point difference there. So I think moving forward, your big call is what do you do with Ibuka, right?
79:10Like that one's going to be tough, especially with Baker Mayfield being out.
79:14I think Michael Wilson will absolutely be in your lineup somewhere next week.
79:18And I'm looking at that Mike Washington Jr. that you have just stashed away that we talked about at the beginning of the show.
79:25Doubt he's hitting waivers. Looking at Eric's team, disappointing.
79:28Hampton, McMillan, Schultz, New England's defense, just disappointing, disappointing, disappointing.
79:31So nothing he could have done. I mean, he put the best possible lineup out there.
79:36He just got beat by the better team, and that was you this week.
79:40I don't know what I'm going to do about this quarterback situation.
79:44Now I've just kind of got like a headache of two guys who have been disappointing, Kyler Murray and Justin Herbert.
79:50But we'll figure that out as we go. Okay, speaking of disappointing Ray, a loss for you here in week three.
79:57The Boone supremacy reigns over Ray. Matchup with plenty of fireworks.
80:00Okay, 121.7 points for you. 124.9 for Justin Boone.
80:03Listen, I was telling Boone last night, it's in the bag, bro.
80:07Don't worry about it. He only needed 10 points from Jalen Hurts to win.
80:11Only needed 10 points. He barely got him, 13.6.
80:14But it was just enough to get over the line.
80:17And you had a – hey, listen, you've got a good team over there, Ray.
80:21Bijan, hero performance. Parker Washington, Matthew Golden. You got some good picks here.
80:25Just a little bit too little against Justin Boone.
80:28Yeah, I mean, there's – the Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid thing is going to just eat me alive.
80:34When I sit Ferguson, he outperforms Kincaid. When I start Ferguson, Kincaid smashes him.
80:38I gave it my best try, right? Like I put out the best roster, the best lineup I could have.
80:44Maybe – even Travis A. Chan wouldn't help with that extra point right there.
80:49I lost a good one to Justin on this one.
80:52I'm not upset about it. It is what it is.
80:55I lost by less than – what did the producers say?
80:58Less than three and a half points, three, four points in this one.
81:02We'll try again next week, man. This hurt because it felt like I had a chance.
81:07I'm watching. I'm like, ooh, man, I just need one Hurts interception.
81:11That tush push at the end of the half.
81:13Get out of here. The clock hit zero. That shouldn't have counted.
81:17But here we are, man. I'll be all right.
81:20I'll be all right. Look at Boone. Look at Boone having James Conner and Jordan Tyson in the IR spot.
81:26The James Conner thing. He's hoping he gets traded to the Packers or something here, which you know what?
81:32It might happen. Okay, let's talk about how Scott and Max also got to 3-0 here.
81:37Scott took down Josh handedly to stay undefeated. Josh Norris, nobody was feeling themselves more than Josh Norris after that draft.
81:43He's got some issues here. Yeah, he's got – his boy Kenneth Walker, that's great.
81:48His other guy, Saquon Barkley, not doing so great.
81:51Meanwhile, he's starting DK Metcalf with a straight face.
81:54And Drake May, 5.8 points for Drake May. What is Josh going to do?
81:58He's got CJ Stroud on the bench. I mean, is he going to start CJ Stroud over Drake May in week four?
82:05Who knows? Meanwhile, Scott's team. I mean, Scott's got a little bit of a wagon going on here.
82:10Brock Purdy, unbelievable. The running backs are not – man, the running backs actually stink.
82:15David Montgomery, Trayvon Henderson. But he's got Kyron Williams as the lead back.
82:19He's got him in his flex there, of course, playing it smart because he was the Sunday night game.
82:25Just in case. That's why Scott's the GOAT. Amon Ross, A.
82:28Brown, a Luther Burden. You know, there's some good players here.
82:31Maybe not a juggernaut team, but Brock Purdy really the anchor of this thing right now.
82:36I mean, Zay and Juwan Johnson on the bench.
82:39I think Scott's got to get Juwan Johnson in that lineup pronto.
82:43But he's got a really good team. I mean, 17 points from the doggone Minnesota Vikings defense.
82:48That's great. I mean, I'm looking at Josh's team.
82:51He's got a bench May. I don't know how he keeps rolling Drake May out there.
82:56He lost Brees Hall as well in this game.
82:59It might get rough for old Norris here real fast.
83:02Yeah, man. Scott would say flowers, Juwan Johnson, Jordan Love on the bench.
83:06Might have the best bench in the league. In addition to the fact he's got Jordan Mason on IR, Emmitt Johnson on
83:12the bench as a stash as well. A lot to like about Scott's team.
83:17There's no question about that. Max also fierce competition as well.
83:20Continues to get the final laugh after that, you know, hammering he took in the draft room.
83:25He goes with a 40-point win over Chris Allen.
83:28Oh, Chris started so hot in week one and it's falling apart here.
83:32Only 86 points. Yeah, he was feeling himself too after week one.
83:36Only 86 points for Chris Allen. Meanwhile, Max, 19 points from Josh Allen.
83:40Wasn't even a monster game. Who cares? Doesn't matter because he also got Devontae Adams absolutely cooking for him.
83:46Jalen Warren, 19 points. Ja'Cory Krosky-Meridan, only 4.8. Doesn't really matter because Brock Bowers came back and was absolutely electric.
83:52The receiver room is still pretty rough to look at outside of Devontae Adams for Max.
83:57Roma Dunze, 5.9 points. Not getting it done there.
84:00Xavier Worthy, does he even exist at this point?
84:02Makai Lemon on the bench. I don't know about that.
84:05He's hoping that Alec Pierce or Tank Dell could come back soon.
84:09They're on his IR spot. I don't know that that's a lot of hope there.
84:14But you know what? He keeps getting it done.
84:16Tight ends and quarterbacks scoring a lot of points for Max here.
84:20I forgot where he drafted Bowers. But that's a big boost for Max.
84:24I mean, Josh Brown turned the ball over freaking, what, four times?
84:28Something like that. He still scored 19 points. Crazy.
84:31I'm looking at Chris. And I'm looking at his roster.
84:34And it's just Chase Brown, disappointment. Ladd, disappointing. Tucker Craft, disappointing.
84:37It's just Justin Jefferson banged up. Debo. I mean, he got the 15-4 with no targets.
84:42So we'll see how Alan navigates this. And I'm looking at the bench, and there's not a lot of hope there either.
84:49So he's going to have to hit that waiver wire for sure.
84:53Eric Edholm sends Dan Titus to 0-3 in the someone's got to win this game bowl.
84:57Eric Edholm is in 10th place. Dan Titus in 12th.
85:01But you know what? Edholm pulls it out. Edholm's got some guys here.
85:05He got a big game from Jordan Addison after Justin Jefferson got hurt.
85:09He's got Trey McBride. Patrick Mahomes definitely going to outkick that ADP.
85:12He's got Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes on the same team.
85:16Too bad this is not a super flex here for Eric Edholm.
85:19And maybe he's got some reinforcements coming if Pukunakua and A.J.
85:23Brown can get healthy. But for now, he gets the win over Dan Titus, who falls 2-0-3 here.
85:28But he's not the only 0-3 team in the league because Hayden's turtleneck sends Joel to 0-3.
85:33Yeah, good people, good players and good people. Not a lot of good happening for Joel's team.
85:39I'll tell you right that. They're a bad fantasy football team.
85:42Man. The people keep – I mean, how could – they're writing copy about median.
85:47The tweets are like, oh, Joel needs the median.
85:49Joel needs the median. Too bad, folks. There's no median in this league.
85:54It's a head-to-head league, and Joel keeps losing. I mean, people are having their best performances of the year against – Joel's got to play better defense.
86:02I don't know what to tell you. He's the Detroit Lions right now.
86:06A good offense, I guess, 126 points. Keep letting up points on the other side of it here.
86:11You know, there's – I don't even think Joel has a bad team necessarily, but got to be feeling nervous about Malik Neighbors.
86:18Got to get Jalen Coker back healthy. Bucky Irving may be dealing with an injury, so we'll see how it goes for Joel.
86:26But meanwhile, Hayden gets a win here to put him at 2-1.
86:29Yeah, I'm looking at Joel's team, and there's just – I mean, it's kind of like that Gibbs that he really just
86:36needs that because Neighbors, Coker's banged up. Bateman is back to wide receiver two status there.
86:41He got the best game of the season from Harold Fannin Jr.
86:45I mean, Aubrey and the Texan defense hold them up, and then you look over there at Hayden.
86:50He's got two hammer receivers we talked about on the show.
86:54Now A-chan is out, so we'll see what he's going to do there.
86:58But McLaurin on the bench. He's got Keaton Mitchell down there, and, you know, we'll see.
87:03We'll see. This is a fun league. This is a fun league.
87:06But I'm looking at Joel's team, and, ah, man.
87:09And this was the prohibited favorite. Harmon, people were like, oh, he's running.
87:13He's about to run through y'all this year, and he's 0-3, man.
87:170-3. Yeah, the Joel fanboys thought Daddy Smith was going to run through this league.
87:21Not happening so far. But you know what? He plays me this week, so don't worry.
87:26Joel's going to have a bounce back, and I'm talking way too much trash, okay, with the 3-0 start.
87:320-3 for Joel. I guarantee you, best game of the season coming for Joel here.
87:37Like, all these guys are going to go absolutely crazy against me.
87:40There's no question about that. By the way, 0-3 start.
87:43Odds to make the playoffs for our guy Joel Smith and Dan Titus.
87:47It's not over, but you only have a 10.5% chance of making the fantasy playoffs according to our internal data here at Yahoo Fantasy, our historical data.
87:56If you start 3-0, 74.1% chance. So a lot of pressure on me, Ray, to not blow this thing.
88:0274%. That makes me feel nervous. You better make it.
88:05I better make it, bro, because this will be humiliating if I don't.
88:09But this has been a really fun league so far, as I mentioned.
88:13I'm taking on Joel this week. If I send him 0-4, it's definitely over-over for Joel.
88:18But if he beats me, then I probably am going to have to come on this.
88:23I might have to wear the bag over my head if I lose this week on the show.
88:28We never know. Meanwhile, you've got to go against Scott.
88:31Can you give Scott Pinowski his first loss of the season, Ray?
88:35That would really help me out personally. I'm going to try my best.
88:39I'm going to try my best. The Jake Ferguson thing, Dallas plays Houston this week, so I don't know.
88:45I'm going to try. Scott's got a damn good team.
88:48He's got a damn good team. Yeah, I'm going to need you to lock in.
88:52I'm going to need you to lock in and try really hard, okay?
88:57So there's that. By the way, the other 3-0 team, Max, I would argue, and I'm being told to say this on
89:03the outline, so no hurt feelings here. Apparently, Josh was the one who talked the most trash.
89:09A lot of the most number one snide remarks came from Josh Norris on Max's draft strategy on the Draft Live show.
89:15Well, he's got a chance for revenge this week because Josh, who has all those problems on his roster, is taking on Max this week.
89:23So we've got a lot of interesting matchups in the Yahoo Fantasy Expert League.
89:27I mean, it's a league of experts, okay? And I'm 3-0.
89:31So, you know, it's a league of experts, esteemed gentlemen, at the top of their field, the best minds that you could possibly find.
89:38Get us out of here. Right? Yeah, you're right.
89:41Get us out of here. Somebody pull the plug.
89:44Pull the plug on the show. That's enough already.
89:46Okay. Every single week here on the Data Dump Show, and you're reading and following all of Ray's works as well.
89:53At Ray Garvin is where you're going to get that.
89:56That does it for today's show. Tomorrow, we've got a big one coming your way.
90:01Nate Tice will be joining, as usual, on Wednesday.
90:03And a little drum roll here. We can now reveal that Justin Boone is going to be on the show weekly on Wednesdays starting tomorrow and going forward.
90:12Yes, two times a week. Boone, back on the show.
90:15You absolutely love to see it. That's going to be an electric show.
90:19You're not going to want to miss it. 4 p.m.
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90:26Until then, we are out.