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0:28Exclusions like taxes and fees apply. Is there anything better in life than league winning picks from Pat Fitzmaurice?
0:34I think not. Welcome into FantasyPros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast.
0:38Tara Roberts here with Pat Fitzmaurice, and he is giving us his Top 10 League Winners.
0:44You cannot leave your draft without. And it is going to be a fun show here, guys.
0:50I saw the names and I'm very, very excited.
0:53I know you will love them too. So, Pat, how are you doing this fine Monday morning?
0:58Doing well, Tara. A little worse for the wear after getting back from the Fantasy Expo.
1:04Long drive, a long weekend of talking too loudly over in loud crowded spaces.
1:09But it was great to catch up with old friends, meet a lot of new ones.
1:14Always a good time in Canton. Bob Long does a great job of putting the Expo together.
1:20And, you know, now it feels like with the Expo out of the way, we're down to business with the season getting really close.
1:28And training camp news about to hit us like a tidal wave.
1:32So I am ready to go. That's right. I am jealous.
1:36I did not get to go. Hopefully next year.
1:39Hopefully. And then I am also looking forward to training camp.
1:43We've got news coming in already. It has been fun and I feel like things are going to ramp up here.
1:50So I feel like this is the perfect time to talk about league winners because these are names that you're going to want to watch in training camp.
1:59Now, for you guys, we are going to count these players down 10 to 1 with one being the guy that Pat
2:07believes has the greatest ceiling relative to their draft costs.
2:10And just so you guys know, when it comes to league winners, I mean, we know that guys like Bijan and Gibbs, they have insane ceilings.
2:19They can win leagues. But what we're looking at here is players that you can take in the mid rounds like three
2:26and six that can have potential top five ceilings at their position or a guy that's being drafted outside the top 100
2:34that could have like a top 15 or top 20 type of season.
2:38So basically, we are looking at players whose ceiling is high compared to their costs.
2:43And we're going to go ahead and kick things off here with number 10.
2:48Pat, who do you got for us? It's Jonathan Brooks, Tara.
2:52And I think there is a path, a pretty well lit path for Jonathan Brooks to become Carolina's lead back.
2:59Chuba Hubbard is probably the favorite to start in week one, but I don't think that's a slam dunk.
3:05Chuba had a nice season in 2024, but he's been a pretty unremarkable like replacement level performer for most of his career.
3:13And last year, Chuba Hubbard started six game for the Panthers early in the season.
3:18And then the Panthers benched him for Rico Dowdle, who was playing on a one year contract.
3:23So we've already seen that the Panthers are pretty willing to throw Chuba overboard if they think they have a better option.
3:31And, you know, Chuba had double digit carries in only one of his last nine regular season games.
3:37So Jonathan Brooks obviously has to be considered a medical risk after tearing the same ACL twice within a span of about 13 months.
3:45But it's now been almost 20 months since the second ACL tear.
3:49And the Panthers seem pretty confident that the second reconstruction went way better than the first one did.
3:55All the reports have been pretty positive about that.
3:58And Brooks was only a one year starter at the University of Texas because he was a backup to be John Robinson when he was an underclassman.
4:08But that one year was pretty dazzling. Brooks had 1,400 yards from scrimmage and 11 touchdowns in 11 games.
4:14If Brooks can recapture that magic, he's going to pass Chuba Hubbard on the depth chart and it probably isn't going to take very long.
4:22Like when Brooks was coming out of college, Lance Zierlein of NFL.com compared him stylistically to Jamal Charles.
4:29That's the sort of playmaking ability Jonathan Brooks has.
4:32And if Brooks does become the lead back, he will be the lead back in an offense that basically tried to hide
4:39its quarterback for most of last season. Bryce Young threw 25 or fewer passes in half of his starts.
4:46And the Panthers pass rate over expected last year, minus 6.1 percent, fifth lowest in the league.
4:51Brooks is starting to get a little more expensive in drafts, but he's still going basically in the middle rounds.
4:58And the potential payoff could be pretty enormous. I love that you included this one here.
5:04This is one I'm shocked. I mean, the ADP has moved up a little bit, but we haven't seen it skyrocket to a level.
5:12And I'm surprised because we have gotten direct information from the Panthers of them saying like, hey, we do want to work in Jonathan Brooks.
5:20And knowing that he's going to get some kind of play early on from a third down perspective.
5:26We know the receiving upside that he has. He's such a well-rounded back.
5:31So knowing that he isn't going to have to fight with any of the guys in terms of Trevor Etienne or AJ
5:38Dillard or anything like this is a pretty clear cut, a one-two funnel here to where if anyone would get the opportunity, it's Brooks.
5:46I'm surprised we haven't seen him go up. I guess the concern around his medical issues is what's really keeping it down there.
5:54But I love that you mentioned the passing stats there for Bryce Young because while I love him, the reality is, is
6:02that this is an offense that wants to lean on the ground.
6:06So if they can improve those efficiencies, get some additional goal line touches, we could be in line for a very interesting season.
6:14Yeah, well said. And it just does seem like the Panthers want to find out what they really have in Brooks.
6:21They spent a mid-second round pick on him. And, you know, before they get too far down in his rookie deal, I
6:28think they want to see if it's worth making maybe a long-term commitment to him after this season.
6:34And moving on to our number nine player here, I'm very interested to see this because I'm interested in this person too as well.
6:42But there's a lot of other options on the team.
6:46Then we've also got injury concerns on the team.
6:49So, Pat, lay out number nine for us here.
6:52Yeah, Tyler Warren. So the injury concerns not with Warren himself, but Daniel Jones, the quarterback.
6:57And we saw sort of the difference with and without a healthy Daniel Jones last year.
7:03So over the first 11 games of Tyler Warren's rookie season, he was averaging five catches and 60 receiving yards per game.
7:10And he was tight end three in fantasy scoring.
7:13So then Daniel Jones fractured his fibula in late November.
7:17And then two games after that, he tore his Achilles.
7:20And Tyler Warren's production took a nosedive pretty much after the first injury.
7:24Still wound up with 76 catches for 817 yards and five touchdowns.
7:29Finished tight end five in fantasy scoring. And he led the Colts in targets with 112.
7:34Now right behind him with 111 targets was Michael Pittman, who's now in Pittsburgh.
7:39And the Colts didn't really make any other significant additions at wide receiver in the offseason.
7:44Warren has an excellent chance to lead the Colts in targets again.
7:48And he also adds a little bit of value as a runner.
7:52He had eight carries and one rushing touchdown last season.
7:56But in his final college season at Penn State, Warren had four rushing touchdowns.
8:00And that was just part of a ridiculously good season where he had 104 catches for 1,233 yards and 12 total touchdowns.
8:08Warren's coming off a pretty promising rookie season. I think he could have an even better second season now that the target competition has lessened.
8:16And he's one of a handful of tight ends who could lead their respective teams and targets.
8:22He's already done it once. I think he's poised to do it again.
8:27I love that. I love walking away with him.
8:30There's a lot of opportunity here if things go right for the Daniel Jones recovery here.
8:35What are what are you have any concerns around what the potential floor would be if there are any lingering long term effects here on Daniel Jones?
8:44Definitely there's a floor scenario in play if Daniel Jones gets hurt again.
8:49But, you know, Daniel Jones isn't going to run as much.
8:52So maybe that's part of the appeal with Warren getting some goal line carries, maybe some short range touchdown catches.
8:59I just I still we have to feel pretty good about what we saw from the Colts last year before the Jones injury.
9:07Like this was a wildly efficient and effective offense.
9:10And maybe it's not going to be quite what it was with the 100 percent healthy Daniel Jones.
9:16But things were pretty encouraging last season. And Warren's poised to have an even bigger role than he had last year.
9:23I'm with you. I feel I feel positively about it, too.
9:27And I like that you mentioned maybe he runs a little bit less and maybe that affects him, which is fine, because
9:35it's not as if we're drafting young Daniel Jones as a QB one in any perspective.
9:40Maybe the lack of rushing just helps things out for all of our guys in general.
9:45Jonathan Taylor, Josh Downs and Tyler Warren as well.
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11:50All right, Pat, let us dive into the number eight player here who I know we both love very dearly.
11:56Well, we're both Packers fans, Tara. So I had to include a Green Bay Packer.
12:02There we go. And it's going to be Christian Watson.
12:05And it really is not just a case of my Packer homerism.
12:09I think Christian Watson could blow up this season if, of course, he stays healthy.
12:14And we know that especially I've found more in home leagues than in leagues I'm in with other analysts like people get terrified of injuries.
12:23And it has players with worrisome injury histories going a lot later than they should.
12:28In some cases, I think that's the case with Watson.
12:31I was just checking the fantasy pros real time ADP on Watson and it's still wide receiver 28 66 overall.
12:38And by the way, real time ADP people can monitor that throughout the draft season.
12:43It is as we get more and more information from people who think their leagues with us, we can tell you exactly
12:50where people are going at any given time. And you can kind of follow the trends.
12:56It's really useful tool. So I think Watson has the ability to be, if not a high and wide receiver to maybe
13:03a low end to mid range wide receiver one if he stays healthy.
13:08He came back last year from an ACL tear that he sustained at the end of the 2024 season, played 10 regular
13:15season games in 2025, averaged 17 and a half yards per catch, 11.1 yards per target, 2.28 yards per route run.
13:22Those are all excellent numbers. He was basically producing at a thousand yard, 10 touchdown pace.
13:28And now the Packers have thinned the herd at wide receiver.
13:32Matt LaFleur has been fond of rotating four or five guys.
13:35Now it's basically going to be a core three of Watson, Jaden Reed and Matthew Golden.
13:41Tucker Kraft could be a major player in this offense too, but he is coming off a torn ACL.
13:47Watson's potential is just immense. He's 6'4", 208 pounds, has 4.36 speed.
13:51And that speed shows up on the field, Tara.
13:54You and I both know that when he is on a dead run, he makes defenders look like traffic cones.
14:01And he has a high quality quarterback in Jordan Love.
14:04And what if the Packers are pass heavier than they have been in recent years?
14:10Last year, they were 31st. Excuse me, two years ago, 31st in pass rate over expected last year, 22nd.
14:16What if without Micah Parsons for half the season, they have to throw more?
14:21You know, the defense maybe cast them into more shootouts.
14:24What if Josh Jacobs does have some sort of disciplinary action and they're not able to lean on the running game as much?
14:32So I just think this is a player with a chance to be special.
14:37And he is being held down because people are worried about that injury history.
14:41But once he came back last year from that 2024 ACL tear, he was good to go.
14:47And he was impressive. Yeah, I mean, the way what you mentioned about the way that they lean on the run here.
14:55I mean, you can look at that as a negative and say, you know, hey, what is really the pass volume going to be here?
15:03But at the end of the day, we're talking about you saying one, then doubt the herd there.
15:09We've got it narrowed down. Then we do know that there is a higher ceiling and they can remain.
15:16I mean, the gap is so egregious in terms of runs versus passes that they can remain run heavy and well above
15:23league average and still increase the pass rate there.
15:26So there is a lot higher ceiling when you're talking about the potential for more volume, the potential for more targets with the guys that have exited here.
15:36So, yeah, I'm with you. It's funny because he comes in a range where I'm glad you talked about him because I
15:43love him as a player and as a Packers fan.
15:47But he's in one of those ranges that is such a weird range for me, right, because I'm looking at, you know,
15:54the way that I'm drafting and I want to make sure that I am leaning and grabbing at least two wide receivers
16:02before I get to that wide receiver, let's say, 24 ish range.
16:06Because after you get once you get into that range, it gets a little weird in terms of guys having one little thing working against them.
16:15But as you pointed out, the thing working against him has just been the injuries.
16:20It's not as if when he's on the field, he's been outperformed and just kind of off to the wayside and confusing.
16:27I mean, as long as he's on the field, it's been fantastic.
16:31So I think it's a reasonable pick for somebody who definitely could have that top five ceiling if they were to actually just stay on the field.
16:40Yep. And that early sixth round ADP puts him in the same range as running backs like Jadarian Price and Chuba Hubbard.
16:48I would much rather have Christian Watson than either of those two players, like not even close.
16:54Yeah. Grab your running backs early and then you can take those high upside wide receiver picks later.
17:00I love it. Speaking of high upside wide receiver picks, let's stay on the wide receiver track here with your number seven player.
17:07Another guy being drafted in wide receiver three range.
17:11He's wide receiver 25 overall in real time ADP.
17:14It's Jamison Williams of the Lions. And we saw Jamison Williams average exactly six targets per game last season and still finish with 1117 yards.
17:22Like, what could this guy do with seven or seven and a half targets a game?
17:28And this is a pretty polarized passing game for the Lions.
17:31It's it's Amon Ross St. Brown. Of course, he's going to get his.
17:36It's Sam Laporta, who has been dealing with a herniated disc in his back.
17:40Hopefully that's OK for him this year. But he missed significant time last year and Jamison Williams.
17:46And they really don't use number three Isaac to slough that much.
17:50So we also saw a big shift in the usage of Jamison Williams last year.
17:55So it was kind of a big reason that head coach Dan Campbell of the Lions yanked the play sheet away from
18:03then offensive coordinator John Morton midway through the season.
18:06So with Morton calling the plays like Jamison Williams was getting his cardio in as sort of this go route guy running
18:13these deep routes, but not making many catches. He averaged two point six catches and forty four point four receiving yards per game with Morton calling the plays.
18:23Then after Campbell took over, Jamo averaged four point nine catches and eighty four point seven receiving yards per game the rest of the way.
18:31We saw him running a lot more crossers, easy pitching catches where they got Jamo into space and he used those wheels after the catch.
18:40I mean, this guy can fly. His his speed is just dazzling.
18:44So from week 10 on, he was wide receiver nine in half point PPR scoring right behind teammate Amon Ross St.
18:51Brown. There was less than a point per game separating them from week nine on last season.
18:57And everyone considers Amon Ross St. Brown a slam dunk first round pick.
19:01So I'm excited that, you know, now that Dan Campbell has seen what Jamison Williams could do with this sort of usage.
19:09They're not going back to just using him as a go route guy, even though they have a new offensive coordinator again this year in Drew Petsing.
19:18Like the usage, I think, is going to stick.
19:21And Jamison Williams is being undervalued this year. He's a guy who could have a big impact for your team this year.
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20:48Welcome to Alaska Airlines. Yeah, I completely agree on that one.
20:52I've been fighting reasons to not feel a lot more comfortable with drafting Jared Goff as a quarterback because, again, you're talking
20:59about just the playmakers that you have there. And then one thing that benefits, you know, Jamison Williams is, and I was
21:07just looking at this and I was doing a video for betting pros in terms of passing yards and passing touchdowns for Jared Goff.
21:15The schedule is extremely pass friendly, particularly in the second half where we know what happens with Jared Goff, right?
21:21You want him in a nice weather situation or you want him in a dome.
21:27And the back half of that season, Sands Week 17 is, for the most part, stacked up with great situations in terms
21:34of them being in domes, coincidentally here. So I can absolutely see just a wonderful season overall for Jamison Williams and them
21:42particularly in the back half hitting when you need him the most high upside there.
21:47What do you think about Drew Petsing coming in here?
21:50Because, you know, he's had plenty of talent to work with in Arizona, but it's always been a shaky quarterback situation.
21:57Now you come into a much more stable situation.
22:00I mean, what can we truly see from him in terms of providing upside for these receivers?
22:06Yeah, you would think, Tara, that after what we saw with the shift in Jamison Williams usage after Dan Campbell took over
22:13the play calling, I'm sure that probably came up in the interview with Drew Petsing for the job where, OK, what's your plan for using Jamison Williams?
22:23And I think we're going to see a lot of the same thing.
22:27Now, of course, there are going to be some some plays where he's going deep, but I think they're going to work
22:34to get him the ball a little closer to the line of scrimmage and just get the ball in his hands because
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23:18Now, moving on to the number six player here.
23:21I have been in 100 percent agreement with you, Pat, right up until this point where I'm not in disagreement.
23:28But I need you to convince me because I've gone back and forth on this player in terms of he's literally he's
23:36literally the perfect player for this list. Because, guys, again, we're talking about league winners with ceiling, the ceiling to be able
23:43to significantly outperform where you are drafting him. And and when I look at this next player, I know that that is
23:51the possibility for him and how high the ceiling is.
23:54But then I get so worried about just what the floor could potentially be.
23:59So I am ready to be convinced and put at ease at this one so you can push me off of the
24:06line and over to the pro area here. I'll try to do my best with selling you on Travion Henderson, Tara.
24:13And I totally get it. There is a bull case and a bear case to be made for Travion Henderson.
24:20But I think the bull case is that he could be one of those guys who every year there are a half
24:28dozen players who are really the movers and shakers as far as like the teams that have those players are making the
24:35playoffs at a sky high rate, winning championships at a sky high rate.
24:39They are the force multiplier guys who just return a massive profit on the investment you make on them.
24:46And I think with Travion Henderson, although he does have immediate competition in the backfield, we've already seen what the upside can be.
24:54So when Ramondre Stevenson missed weeks nine, 10 and 11 last year for the Patriots, Travion Henderson had 330 yards from scrimmage
25:01and five touchdowns over those three games and was the RB3 in fantasy behind only CMC, Christian McCaffrey and Devon HN those two weeks.
25:09And then there were two other multiple touchdown games that Travion Henderson had with Stevenson actually playing.
25:15So I know the last image we had of Travion Henderson in our minds was playing very sparingly and very ineffectively in
25:23the playoffs when the Patriots seemed much more comfortable with Ramondre's pass blocking.
25:27They had all these good defenses they were facing in the playoffs.
25:31And even though Henderson was hailed as a pretty good pass blocker coming out of college, he struggled a little bit with that.
25:39And he, I think, has even admitted it in the offseason that just, you know, maybe a little overwhelmed by the size and speed of NFL pass rushers.
25:48But he played in the Big Ten. He faced some pretty good pass rushers there and did a really good job.
25:55I think he's going to come along in that area.
25:59And let's face it, Ramondre was not all that effective in the playoffs either.
26:04He averaged 3.7 yards per carry in New England's four postseason games.
26:08So Henderson is obviously far more explosive than Stevenson is.
26:11Ramondre has had three runs of 40 or more yards in five NFL seasons.
26:16Henderson had four runs of 40 or more yards in his rookie year.
26:20And I think all four of them went for 50 or more yards, Tara.
26:25So it's, yeah, it's just, plus we need to remember that Ramondre has fumbled on 2% of his carries in the NFL.
26:33And that's a pretty sky-high fumble rate. So that's one path Henderson certainly has to more playing time.
26:39Even if there's not a full changing of the guard here and we see kind of a 50-50 backfield split the whole
26:46way, I think Travion Henderson should still get enough work to basically pay off what his current cost is or come close to it.
26:54But if there is a changing of the guard and Travion Henderson gets a much bigger percentage of the touches in the
27:02New England backfield than Ramondre Stevenson does, like he could be a huge force multiplier for your fantasy team.
27:08Yeah, that's a great point. I mean, where we're drafting him here, I mean, looking at ECR, I mean, RB24, it's pushed back like a tiny bit there.
27:18And maybe it'll push back even further as we maybe get confirmation on guys like Basial Tootin maybe being the RB1 there,
27:25and Jadarian Price as we saw Zach Charbonnet put on the pop.
27:29So maybe it gets pushed back even further. I think I'm with you here in terms of the fact that the upside
27:37is so tremendous for where you are drafting him.
27:40I mean, we can't make that same type of argument about guys like DeAndre Swift, even a Quinchon Judkins, who I do
27:47love because I do think he's going to be a three-down back.
27:51I mean, the upside with the receiving just doesn't, and the breakaway runs just doesn't really equal where Travion would be.
27:58So I think I'm with you there. Let me ask you, so you definitively have guys like, how far is he up ahead of guys?
28:07Is he above David Montgomery, Swift, Judkins, that kind of range for you?
28:11Right now I've got him at running back 22 right behind Montgomery and DeAndre Swift, but I have been considering moving him
28:19into the top 20 just because I want to expose myself to that sort of upside.
28:24And, you know, I just, as much as I could see sort of the same 50-50 splits and that, you know, the
28:32situation where it makes him hard to confidently start on a weekly basis, I just want to swing for the fences with
28:39a guy who's really talented and has already shown us what he's capable of.
28:44And, man, that RB3 stretch in those three weeks where Romandre was out, like, that looked glorious.
28:50And we thought it was finally going to be wheels up for Henderson for the season.
28:55And then things took a bad turn for him after that.
28:59But I'm pretty excited about what his second year is going to look like.
29:04I think you have put me at ease in terms of targeting him in redraft.
29:09And at the very least, you've put me at ease for that one dynasty share that I have, that I'm going to
29:16be okay there in terms of putting him into my starting lineup every single week for sure there.
29:22Moving on to this next player, though. You don't have to do any convincing on this one.
29:28I am 100% with you. I am ready to hear the argument that you have got for our boy Emeka Ibuka here at player number five.
29:37Yeah, as with Travion Henderson, another guy who had sort of a Dr.
29:41Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type of season in 2025.
29:44And we saw the exciting part of it really early last year when Emeka Ibuka was wide receiver three through the first
29:52five weeks of the season, five touchdowns in five games.
29:55Things look great. I mean, and we had sort of gotten primed for a good Emeka Ibuka season when we kept hearing
30:03the positive buzz on him in August. Like, everything was just so positive about how he looked in training camp, how he
30:10was just, you know, ready to make an impact as a rookie.
30:14And he did, even though he was playing with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
30:19Now, those guys were hurt at different times early last season when Ibuka got off to that fast start.
30:25But Godwin and Evans were hurt at different times.
30:28So, Ibuka was always playing with at least one of those guys, even when he was putting up those big numbers early on.
30:36So, then he tweaked his hamstring in week six.
30:39And he played through it, but his production sort of crashed.
30:43And Baker Mayfield's season took a bad turn, too.
30:46The Buccaneers offensive line had all sorts of injury issues.
30:50They were without Tristan Wirfs for a while, Luke Gottikey, Cody Mock.
30:54They lost a lot of man games on the offensive line.
30:57And things just didn't go well for the Tampa Bay offense overall.
31:01That offensive line, when healthy, is one of the best in the league.
31:06And I think things are going to look a lot better.
31:10So, yeah, I mean, Ibuka, 20.5 PPR points per game in the first five games and caught 65.8% of his targets.
31:17And then from week six on, he averaged 7.8 PPR points per game and only caught 42.7% of his targets.
31:23So, now there's no Mike Evans. Evans is in San Francisco.
31:27So, Chris Godwin, he's going to get his share of targets, too.
31:31But he was not as effective last year as we've seen him be in the past.
31:37He had that bad injury a couple of years ago.
31:40Maybe he's just not the same guy. So, I really think Ibuka is going to be the leading receiver for the Buccaneers.
31:48And we got a glimpse early last season of what the upside could be.
31:52Yeah, and I agree with you so much in that early one right there.
31:57And the key there is that, you know, we saw him produce, as you mentioned, there was always somebody on the field.
32:05So, we saw him produce, you know, alongside Mike Evans.
32:08And then Mike Evans went down and he had two 100-plus yard games there.
32:13He can be the wide receiver one. And those were very difficult matchups as well defensively that he had those 100-yard games against.
32:21So, we know the talent is there. The upside is there.
32:24And as you mentioned, like, the Tampa Bay was a weird one where they had so many injuries that went under the radar.
32:32We were paying attention to the whole Bucky Irving injury was a nightmare and Mike Evans and Godwin and whatnot.
32:39But Emeka Ibuka had a hamstring injury he played through.
32:42All of those offensive line injuries, it really was just a weird season that kind of goes over.
32:48Baker Mayfield had injuries he was playing through. And I'm also excited to see them with this new offensive coordinator here and Zach Robinson as well.
32:57So, at the very least, we know that volume can definitely be pushed to a wide receiver one under Robinson.
33:04So, those are all positive things. How high do you have Emeka Ibuka ranked?
33:09I have him ranked as a mid-range wide receiver two.
33:12So, right now, I have got him at... Sorry, Tara.
33:16Let me switch over from running back to wide receiver in my rankings.
33:20I have Emeka Ibuka as wide receiver 15. It's good.
33:23It's actually more of a high-end wide receiver two.
33:26That's good. Yeah, that probably puts him ahead of guys like Ted Aron McMillan and Garrett Wilson and things like that.
33:34It's a very interesting range that he's going in as well because there's a lot of talent going around that.
33:40But, arguably, the ceiling in terms of if this offense turns back to what we think it is could legitimately be, as
33:48we mentioned, potential top five upside here. So, it's bold.
33:51But I'm glad we are on the same page with that one.
33:55Moving on here, before we actually get to our next player.
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36:14Now moving on to our number four player, as we mentioned, guys, Pat and I are certified Packers fans, but that does
36:21not mean that we cannot have love for a Chicago Bears.
36:25So who do you got at number four there?
36:28Yeah, equal time to the Bears here. It's Colston Loveland, their second year tight end.
36:33And we saw Loveland just get better and better and play more and more in a bigger role as the season wore on.
36:41So Loveland didn't play more than two-thirds of the Bears' offensive snaps for the first, I think it was week eight, when
36:48he finally got like an 80% snap share. And he was tight end 12 overall in fantasy scoring for his rookie season.
36:56But the season just kept getting better and better.
36:59And from week nine on, he was tight end two, behind only Trey McBride.
37:04And at the very end of the season, Tara, unfortunately, we saw Colston Loveland just go berserk.
37:10And he often did it against our Packers. Yes.
37:13He, Loveland had 10 or more targets in each of his last four games that included that playoff win, the come-from-behind win
37:20over the Packers that neither of us really wants to talk about.
37:24During that stretch, he averaged 12 targets, 7 catches, 94.5 receiving yards.
37:28And in that playoff game, he had 15 targets, 8 catches, 137 yards.
37:33So this guy just turned into an absolute beast late in the season.
37:37And he is such a difficult cover for defenses because he's 6'6", 241 pounds, which is way too big for a lot
37:44of safeties to handle and way too fast for a lot of linebackers to deal with.
37:50So I think Ben Johnson is going to feature him.
37:53This is another guy with a pretty good chance to lead his team in targets.
37:58And if not, I think he's going to be right in the same range as Roma Dunze and Luther Burden.
38:05So, man, Loveland just kept getting better and better last season.
38:09I think everyone's ready for a big season with him.
38:12It's no secret, but I do think like his third round, early fourth round ADP is pretty easy to justify because he's capable of a monster season.
38:21It is. It's funny. I did the Scott Fishbowl draft and I am rarely, I love late round tight ends and I
38:29love just streaming and finding little diamonds in the rough.
38:32But oddly enough, I started off double tight end scary.
38:36And Colston Loveland was one of the ones I took for the exact same reason.
38:41The upside is just so high there for them.
38:44And the potential is outrageous. It's crazy because within a very short range, like less than two rounds, you literally have all
38:51the bears going off the board, inclusive of DeAndre Swift along with the quarterback.
38:56So it's a very packed range of Chicago bears.
38:59For you, if you're picking and choosing between one of the wide receivers or Colston Loveland, is your priority here to go
39:07with Loveland or are you going with the wide receivers there?
39:10As much as I like Luther Burden and I think Romo Dunze is capable of having his best season too, I think
39:18I would prefer Loveland just because there are more options at wide receiver in that range of guys who can basically give
39:25you something close to what you're going to get from Burden or Odunze.
39:30But they're only a handful of tight ends with the potential to be the number one target earners on their team.
39:37And I really like coming out of drafts with one.
39:40And Tara, it just goes to show we are willing to put our money where our mouth is on Colston Loveland because
39:48I, too, have him in the Scott Fish Bowl.
39:51Oh, there we go. That's perfect. That's perfect. Because, you know, I sat there and I debated between him and Warren.
39:58It was tough. It was tough. But, you know, I feel justified now that we are Colston Loveland brethren here in the Scott Fish Bowl.
40:06So playoff bound for us on the back of Colston Loveland.
40:10Now moving on to our number three player here.
40:13I'm excited to hear about this one because this is not someone who I have ever fated by any means necessary.
40:20But it was one who, you know, when I come around to the draft board, I'm like, yeah, you know, OK, I'm cool with it.
40:29But it's not like a massive target for me.
40:32But as we get closer to the season, I'm starting to see the light here.
40:37So talk to us about this number three player, Pat.
40:40I've had the same sort of trajectory with Zay Flowers, Tara, over the offseason.
40:45I think I've just sort of kept moving him higher and higher in my rankings as things have gone on.
40:52And I've sort of put things into perspective. Just how good his 2025 season was.
40:57Now, it didn't seem like it was that much better than his 2024 season.
41:02So in 2024, Zay Flowers had 74 catches for 1,059 yards and four touchdowns.
41:07And in 2025, he had 86 catches, 1,211 yards and five touchdowns.
41:11Six touchdowns if you include his one rushing TD.
41:14But in the context of what the Ravens offense was in 2024 versus what it was last year, Flowers' 2025 season looks so much better.
41:22So in 2024, he accounted for 25.3% of Baltimore's offensive yardage.
41:26And last year with Lamar Jackson missing some time and playing through injuries and a bunch of other games, Zay Flowers accounted
41:33for 36.9% of the Ravens' offensive yardage. They drafted a couple of wide receivers in the offseason.
41:39Jacoby Lane in the third round, Elijah Surratt in the fourth round.
41:43I don't think either is going to really pose that much target competition to Zay Flowers, who was up at a 29% target share last year.
41:52And what I'm excited about, especially for this year, Tara, like we haven't seen Zay Flowers used all that much in the
41:59red zone and the green zone 10 yards and in.
42:0330 red zone targets in three NFL seasons, 17 green zone targets.
42:07Like what if the Ravens' new offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle, really increases Zay Flowers' usage close to the goal line.
42:14So he's never had more than five touchdown catches in any of his three NFL seasons.
42:19And Flowers, I think, could easily establish a new single season high in touchdowns this year.
42:25That makes so much sense. I do feel like he's posed, he's not like a breakout player because we've seen, you know, last year statistically great.
42:33But I think there's a potential for a massive, like elite breakout here with him.
42:39And like you were saying, like I liked, I was very excited in the draft, right?
42:44Because I love Jacoby Lane as a prospect and I like Elijah Surratt.
42:48So I was excited to see because I'm not really a believer in Rashad Bateman.
42:53So I was thinking, okay, they'll push Rashad Bateman out the way and step up here and provide a nice play off of Zay Flowers.
43:02But as we've gone through the off season, I feel like I haven't heard that much buzz out of them as I would have expected.
43:10For all what we have heard, you know, it sounds like Devontae Walker is going to get some priority there.
43:17And we have not seen anything out of him in these first couple of seasons of his career at all.
43:24And he's had the opportunity to step up. And with all of that said, as we've heard nothing in terms of other
43:31people having massive upside and, you know, Walker being the only one to really get any buzz, it sounds like all of
43:39those are indicators that we just need to be drafting Zay Flowers because it is Zay Flowers' team.
43:45And you said that 36 percent? What was that, 36 percent?
43:4936.9 percent of the offensive yardage last year for Zay.
43:52That's crazy. That's crazy. And that's, yeah, that's with Derrick Henry there too.
43:57So, yeah. And as you said, Tara, like not only the wide receiver, like it doesn't seem like he's going to have
44:04much target competition from the wide receivers. Isaiah likely left.
44:07Yeah. And he's with the Giants now. And Mark Andrews sort of had his efficiency crash out last year.
44:14I don't think Mark Andrews is totally washed yet, but I could be wrong about that.
44:19And if so, I mean, that makes Zay Flowers look even more appealing for 2025.
44:24Exactly. 2026. Yeah. Excuse me. Yeah. I mean, we've seen with Mark Andrews, I mean, maybe we get an uptick in touchdowns,
44:32but the odds of him going back to the targets that he had before, it feels slim to none here.
44:39So I am 100 percent on board with this Zay Flowers thing.
44:43Now, this next one, this is going to be fun.
44:46I'm going to because this is one that I feel is a sneaky, controversial one, right?
44:52Because you either have true believers that this is finally the time that he is going to be unleashed, or you have
44:59the side of the camp that thinks we're just going to continue to see the same thing that we have seen throughout his career.
45:07He often gets mislabeled as being injury prone, in my opinion.
45:11But I'm ready to hear the argument here from Pat on Kenneth Walker.
45:15Yeah, I think the interesting thing, Tara, is where people have him relative to some of the other running backs in that
45:23tier, where they have Kenneth Walker relative to Saquon Barkley, Chase Brown, O'Marion Hampton, Devon Achan.
45:28I actually have Walker at the top of that tier.
45:32And my case for Kenneth Walker is that we sort of saw what he could do last year when he was in
45:39a featured role after Zach Charbonnet tore his ACL.
45:42You know, he was an absolute monster in the playoffs for Seattle.
45:4630 touches a game he averaged in Seattle's three-game championship run.
45:50161 scrimmage yards saw him absolutely dominate against a very good New England Patriots run defense in the Super Bowl.
45:57And now he goes to a Chiefs team that I think is looking for something in the running game that they have.
46:04They just weren't getting any explosive plays out of Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco.
46:09Those guys were just sort of plotters. And you've also got Patrick Mahomes coming off a major knee injury.
46:16So I think the Chiefs are highly incentivized to feed Kenneth Walker a good number of touches.
46:21And I know people see Kenneth Walker as sort of a platoon back, but he did average 16.4 touches a game over his four seasons in Seattle.
46:30I think he's probably going to be closer to 20, if not over 20 a game this year with the Chiefs, as long as he can stay healthy.
46:40They gave him a big money deal in free agency.
46:43They don't really have a lot else at the running back position.
46:47They drafted Emmitt Johnson on day three. They signed Amari Di Mercado, who was always almost run out of town in Arizona
46:55last year after that fumble near the goal line.
46:58I think this is the Kenneth Walker show. And he's going to be running behind arguably a better line in Kansas City
47:05than he had in Seattle last year. I'm just excited to see what this guy can do.
47:11And I think there's big upside. Yeah, I think people are kind of jaded on the recent history and not so recent history.
47:19It's been going on for years now in terms of hoping that there was going to be this upside breakout out of
47:26the backfield for it to never pan out. And I know people have their concerns about Amari Di Mercado contributing on passing downs.
47:34But while Kenneth Walker was never, you know, and he was never a big, you know, any pass catcher in college.
47:41But we've got more than enough evidence in his tenure in Seattle to show that the man is perfectly fine with check
47:49downs and has the capabilities to be a three down back.
47:53So if if Kansas City and buy the money, as you said, it seems like the money was paid for them to purchase a full three down back.
48:02If this is the answer that they have been looking for to truly unleash this backfield to one specific player, Kenneth Walker's upside would be Masson.
48:11And you mentioned Patrick Mahomes and the injury. And, you know, the one thing that I've noticed about the Patrick Mahomes rushing
48:18stats from last year, and I think he also recently said that he ran more than he ideally would have liked to.
48:26Those rushing massive increase that we saw last year, it was specifically during the time frame that Rasheed Rice was out.
48:33So that could have easily been the result of he just had to do it all because the pass catchers weren't giving what they needed to give.
48:42And then once we had Rasheed Rice back, we saw the decrease there.
48:47So if we get that decrease in more of a pocket passer kind of situation there for Patrick Mahomes, I mean, the
48:54sky is the limit there for Kenneth Walker. Pat, how high would you take him?
48:59I would take him as early as the round one, round two turn like that.
49:04I think that's a good spot to go running back, running back, because, you know, by the time it gets back to
49:12you in the third round at pick 36, the elite running backs are going to be thinned out by then, and the
49:19pickings are going to be a little slimmer. I think that's a real good time to go RBRB and Kenneth Walker.
49:26I think you can absolutely justify taking him there.
49:29He's not going that high. He's more of a mid-round, mid-second round guy right now, but I'd be willing to take him on the turn.
49:38I like it. I like the boldness there. Now moving on to our number one player here.
49:44It is a player that everyone knows and loves, but I see where you're going here with the potential ceiling being absolutely outrageous here.
49:52Who do you have at number one, Pat? Tara, it's Brock Bowers, and the ceiling is a guy who could just kind
49:59of break fantasy football this year in all the best types of ways.
50:04Current ADP 20th overall in our real-time ADP. He is the tight end one, but I think he is probably a guy
50:11we're going to be talking about as a consensus first-round pick in 2027 drafts.
50:16As a rookie in 2024, coming in as arguably the best tight end prospect we had ever seen after his illustrious career
50:23at the University of Georgia, comes into the Raiders, has 112 catches for 1,194 yards and five touchdowns, tight end one in
50:31fantasy scoring, and he was third among all pass catchers, that's wide receivers and tight ends, in receptions, sixth in targets, eighth
50:38in receiving yardage, and ninth in PPR fantasy points.
50:41So basically producing as a wide receiver one from the tight end position.
50:46And he did that, Tara, with Gardner Minshew, Aiden O'Connell, and Desmond Ritters, his quarterbacks in Las Vegas.
50:52They had a combined passer rating of 82.4 that season.
50:55And now I know the quarterbacking might not be that much better this year.
51:00It's going to be Kirk Cousins for some amount of time until the Raiders eventually, you know, give Fernando Mendoza the number
51:08one overall draft pick his first taste. I will say, though, that Kirk Cousins has been a surprisingly tight end friendly quarterback over the years.
51:16Last season, we all remember that Thursday night game against the Buccaneers where Kyle Pitts had 166 yards and three touchdowns.
51:23You know, some people had Kyle Pitts on their fantasy team, Tara, and still managed to lose the game when they had
51:31him that week and get knocked out of the playoffs.
51:34There were some big TJ Hawkinson seasons in Minnesota with Kirk Cousins.
51:38There was a 954-yard 11 touchdown season for Jordan Reed with the Commanders in 2015.
51:43So Kirk Cousins has actually made some tight ends go.
51:47And, you know, then eventually it's going to be Mendoza, who's a better player than Kirk Cousins is at this point, probably.
51:54So plus there's no one at wide receiver with Las Vegas.
51:58I mean, I can't even guess who their best receiver is going to be this year.
52:03Trey Tucker, Jalen Naylor, Jack Bash, who knows? Brock Bowers, clearly the number one pass catcher on this team.
52:10And like last year, Brock Bowers had the PCL injury.
52:13Starts off with five catches and 103 yards in week one, but injures his PCL and gets a bone bruise in his knee.
52:21Tried to gut it out, but just wasn't the same guy.
52:25And then the Raiders shut him down for four weeks.
52:28His first game back after being shut down, he has 12 catches for 127 yards and three touchdowns.
52:34And only four touchdowns after that. The reception and yardage totals, nothing special.
52:39The offense was kind of a mess. The quarterbacking was really bad.
52:43But, I mean, Clint Kubiak is coming in this year.
52:46He's going to fix this offense. Like, this guy knows what he is doing.
52:51And the offensive line is going to be better.
52:54Brought in Tyler Linderbaum. They're going to have a healthy Colton Miller.
52:58I think it's going to be at least a functional offense, which it was not last year.
53:04And like Brock Bowers is the unquestioned star. He and Gentey, they're going to account for a massive percentage of the Raiders' yards, touchdowns.
53:12I just think Brock Bowers is set up for a huge season.
53:16And, yeah, he is the guy, if you're looking to take an upside swing, man, it's hard to find people with more
53:23upside than Brock Bowers in fantasy football this year.
53:26Yeah, everything is just pointing up for him. I mean, we can't argue that there is a better pass catcher on that team.
53:34And everything has in, you know, is it going to be all wonderful and glory and they're going to make a playoff push?
53:42Probably not. But everything will be better factually than last year under the new coaching regime.
53:47So I am very excited to see what we get from Brock Bowers.
53:52Just to recap for you guys, we talked about 10 players here.
53:56Number 10 was Jonathan Brooks, followed by Tyler Warren, Christian Watson at number 8, Jameson Williams, Travion Henderson, Emeka Abuka, Colson Loveland,
54:03Zay Flowers, Kenneth Walker, and Brock Bowers. That wraps things up.
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