PlayerProfiler Fantasy Football Podcast Network artwork

The FF Dynasty - Dynasty Rankings Update + Player Value Market Checks - 2026 Dynasty Fantasy Football

STACKED extracted the fantasy-relevant player signal from this podcast and kept the full transcript here for context.

1 hr 30 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Nov 1, 2026
Published
Sun, November 1, 2026
70
Player insights
48
Players mentioned
Topics
Antonio WilliamsJayden DanielsJustin JeffersonJ.J. McCarthyAaron JonesBrian Thomas Jr.Jalen HurtsJonathan TaylorJosh DownsJuwan JohnsonMarvin Harrison Jr.Ollie Gordon IIOmar Cooper Jr.Saquon Barkley
Player analysis

Player insights

70

Aaron Jones

PositiveUsage34:30

Aaron Jones has been holding the RB room together with Chuba Barkley while the team deals with injuries to Breece Hall and Hampton Brees; he's been providing consistent points for the contending roster.

Insight page
NegativeRole45:17

JJ McCarthy characterizes Aaron Jones as 'all right' in the Eagles backfield context, suggesting he is a secondary option rather than a primary target for dynasty acquisition.

Insight page

Antonio Williams

NegativeUsage23:16

Antonio Williams is featured in a Prize Picks lineup with a projection of more than 1.5 receptions, indicating expected receiving volume.

Insight page
PositiveValue23:16

Antonio Williams is viewed favorably as a dynasty asset; the speaker states 'I really like Antonio Williams' in the context of evaluating a trade where he and Lemon would be acquired for Justin Jefferson and other pieces. His inclusion in a multi-asset package for JJ suggests strong regard for his dynasty value.

Insight page
NegativeValue29:40

JJ McCarthy flags Antonio Williams as a player to discuss value on, indicating upcoming roster review and value analysis segment.

Insight page
PositiveBreakout55:41

Antonio Williams has Mecole Hardman-esque upside from his rookie year start; he's making explosive plays and creating opportunities out of space, with an 87-yard touchdown that didn't count due to a lining error. Despite not yet translating to consistent fantasy points, his opportunity is expanding with Terry McLaurin sidelined for the rest of the season, positioning him as the primary receiver alongside Jaden Daniels. Dan Quinn indicated Williams will see increased volume alongside Traylon Burks. The speaker believes Williams can play his way into becoming a mid-first-round rookie receiver in future drafts, with value spiking once he converts opportunity into consistent scoring.

Insight page

Braelon Allen

PositiveRole71:06

JJ McCarthy notes that both Ollie Gordon and Braylon Allen have shown him something positive in terms of performance, indicating both are contributing meaningfully to the Dolphins backfield; this is notable given McCarthy's initial skepticism about the running back situation.

Insight page

Breece Hall

NegativeInjury35:00

Breece Hall should be back hopefully this week; he's been out and the team is relying on Chuba Barkley and Aaron Jones to hold the RB room together in the interim.

Insight page

Brian Thomas Jr.

PositiveRole26:20

JJ McCarthy rates Brian Thomas Jr. at 43 overall among receivers, well behind Marvin Harrison Jr. at 35 and even behind Caleb Douglas at 53, citing Jacksonville's apparent abandonment of the 'Brian Thomas experiment' with reduced snaps to Josh Cameron and Travis Hunter taking more offensive snaps; McCarthy suggests BTJ is in 'purgatory' and may require a trade or injury elsewhere to regain target-share relevance.

Insight page
NegativeRole42:05

Brian Thomas Jr. is losing snaps to Josh Cameron and Travis Hunter is playing more offense; speaker indicates the Jaguars appear to be done with the 'Brian Thomas experiment,' suggesting a significant role decline and uncertainty around his long-term situation in Jacksonville.

Insight page

Bucky Irving

PositiveValue71:52

JJ McCarthy identifies Bucky Irving as a cheaper alternative to Ashton Gentry who can provide similar production; Irving is positioned as a good value play for teams looking to tier up at running back without paying a premium price, and McCarthy would be willing to trade Chuba Hubbard and Omar Cooper to acquire Irving.

Insight page

C.J. Stroud

NegativeValue45:04

JJ McCarthy notes that Stroud has rebounded enough to be net neutral in value for most dynasty owners; the speaker considers whether selling Stroud would yield more than acquiring Fernando Mendoza, suggesting Stroud's market value has stabilized after earlier concerns.

Insight page

Caleb Douglas

PositiveBreakout27:30

JJ McCarthy ranks Caleb Douglas at 53 overall among receivers, ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. at 43, citing Douglas's clear role as the primary passing-tree target with no competition; McCarthy notes Douglas's early production (2 for 70 and 2 touchdowns) mirrors Brian Thomas Jr.'s rookie season and expresses greater excitement about Douglas's trajectory versus BTJ's uncertain situation.

Insight page

CeeDee Lamb

PositiveRole34:30

CeeDee Lamb is part of a solid WR room on a contending 5-2 team alongside Puka Nacua, Parker Washington, and Omar Cooper Jr.

Insight page

Christian Watson

NegativeValue37:36

In a dynasty trade evaluation, Christian Watson plus Scaup plus an early second is offered for Tedaro McMillan and a tight end; JJ McCarthy rejects this, preferring McMillan's side, suggesting Watson's value is not sufficient to outweigh McMillan's premium status.

Insight page

Chuba Hubbard

NegativeValue72:39

JJ McCarthy discusses Chuba Hubbard as a potential trade piece in a package to tier up at running back; he is positioned as a player with value that can be moved along with other assets (like Omar Cooper) to acquire a younger, more upside-oriented running back like Bucky Irving or Quinshawn Judkins.

Insight page

Colby Parkinson

NegativeUsage49:52

Colby Parkinson is featured in a Prize Picks lineup with a projection of more than 1.5 receptions, indicating expected receiving volume.

Insight page

Daniel Jones

NegativeValue46:14

JJ McCarthy expresses reluctance to acquire Daniel Jones as a quarterback option, indicating he is not interested in downgrading to Jones even in a package deal.

Insight page

Drake Maye

PositiveRole75:42

JJ McCarthy references Drake (Drake Maye) as a stud in the Falcons offense, indicating he is a key fantasy asset for the team; this is mentioned in the context of the Falcons being a solid and improving team.

Insight page

Fernando Mendoza

NegativeValue45:00

JJ McCarthy considers Fernando Mendoza as a potential acquisition in place of CJ Stroud, but notes that downgrading from Stroud to Mendoza would not yield sufficient additional assets to justify the trade.

Insight page

J.J. McCarthy

PositiveProjection0:57

After two strong outings with the Giants (four touchdown passes in the fourth quarter against the Saints, impressive performance against the Texans despite a run-heavy game plan), McCarthy is showing evidence of the touch-ball placement and layered throws over defenders that were never seen in Minnesota. The speaker believes this could represent a legitimate quarterback reclamation arc, with McCarthy executing actual NFL quarterback stuff rather than just running around; the fit appears better with the Giants' simplified offense and Harbaugh's system compared to Kevin O'Connell's scheme in Minnesota.

Insight page
NegativeValue5:00

The speaker recommends holding JJ McCarthy rather than selling at current backup prices; if he continues to play well and eventually gets a starting opportunity elsewhere, owners could sell for a first-round pick or more. The current market undervalues him because of lingering doubt, making it a poor time to sell. If he sits as a backup for 2-3 years, he'll remain priced as a backup, creating a better re-entry point later if he gets another starting chance.

Insight page
NegativeRole10:00

McCarthy is functioning as a handcuff/backup to Jackson Dart rather than a true starter; the Giants have him on his rookie contract with a club option in 2028. If he continues to play well, the Giants may keep him as a high-end backup for multiple years, though there's a possibility he could eventually get another starting opportunity elsewhere. The speaker notes that as a backup, he's currently priced very low in dynasty markets, making him a speculative hold rather than a sell candidate.

Insight page

Jalen Hurts

NegativeProjection21:00

The speaker mentions keeping Jalen Hurts until he retires but expresses nervousness about his injury durability, noting he's going to be in and out of injuries. This suggests caution about his long-term fantasy value despite his talent.

Insight page
NegativeProjection75:27

In the context of team power rankings discussion, the Eagles are being moved down significantly in the rankings, with one JJ Mccarthy suggesting they should be 'under the sea' (out of consideration), indicating a major downgrade in their fantasy outlook; this suggests concerns about Jalen Hurts' performance or the Eagles' overall trajectory.

Insight page

Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection20:57

The speaker is bullish on Jaden Daniels long-term despite injury concerns; he's been excellent from a fantasy perspective this season and the speaker bought him throughout the offseason and will continue to do so. Daniels elected not to have surgery on his injury and is playing through it with a brace, appearing unbothered. The speaker believes he'll figure things out and doesn't expect career-ending injuries, making him a swing candidate every time.

Insight page
PositiveRole22:30

With Terry McLaurin now removed from the lineup situation, Jaden Daniels has more clarity in the Commanders' offense. The speaker likes this development because the constant uncertainty around McLaurin's availability was forcing game plan changes and role confusion. Now with Daniels, Diggs, Antonio Williams, Chig, and White, the offense can settle into a consistent approach and Daniels can figure things out with Kliff Kingsbury.

Insight page
PositiveProjection39:30

Jaden Daniels has been QB1 from weeks 3–7, averaging 26.7 fantasy points per game over that span; speaker emphasizes his upside and recommends holding him despite injury concerns, noting his confidence is growing and the offense is putting something together that looks promising.

Insight page
NegativeRole55:46

Jaden Daniels indicated to the team that he thinks he will do well with the opportunity, signaling the Commanders will build around him and position him as a central part of their offensive future. This context supports increased volume for his receiving weapons, particularly Antonio Williams.

Insight page

Jaylen Warren

NegativeUsage49:50

Jalen Warren is featured in a Prize Picks lineup with a projection of more than 1.5 receptions, indicating expected receiving volume.

Insight page

Joe Burrow

NegativeRole34:15

Roster owner has Joe Burrow as part of a solid QB room that includes Mendoza, Goff, Baker, and Cousins; team is 5-2 with 969 points.

Insight page

Jonathan Taylor

PositiveValue52:07

JJ McCarthy believes Jonathan Taylor is worth more than a late first-round pick in dynasty, indicating the market may be undervaluing the running back.

Insight page
NegativeValue52:24

JJ McCarthy expresses concern about Jonathan Taylor's trade value and role uncertainty; he believes Taylor is worth more than a late first-round pick in dynasty, but notes he's in a precarious spot. McCarthy is concerned about Taylor's situation as a contender but advises rebuilders to hold. The speaker suggests that if Taylor is traded, it would likely be to a team with a better running scheme and winning environment than the Colts, and that he remains one of the five best running backs in the league despite recent uncertainty.

Insight page

Josh Cameron

PositiveRole26:20

JJ McCarthy notes Josh Cameron is gaining snaps at Brian Thomas Jr.'s expense in Jacksonville, contributing to the apparent shift away from the 'Brian Thomas experiment' and reducing BTJ's target-share outlook.

Insight page

Josh Downs

NegativeValue8:54

JJ McCarthy mentions Josh Downs as a potential trade piece to include in a package deal to acquire Nico Collins and Ollie Gordon, suggesting Downs has moderate value but is expendable in pursuit of higher-priority targets.

Insight page
NegativeDepth Chart35:00

Josh Downs is seemingly on the trade block, creating uncertainty about his future role on the contending roster.

Insight page

Justin Jefferson

PositiveValue29:38

In a 10-team dynasty league, Justin Jefferson remains a hold despite trade offers involving multiple first-round picks and quality players like Antonio Williams and Lemon. The speaker prefers to retain JJ given his historical elite receiver status and the league context where studs should be prioritized; at 7-0, the team doesn't need to trade away its best asset.

Insight page
NegativeValue29:40

JJ McCarthy flags Justin Jefferson as a player to discuss value on, indicating upcoming roster review and value analysis segment.

Insight page
NegativeValue50:26

In a redraft trade scenario, JJ McCarthy would trade Tee Higgins for Justin Jefferson, indicating Jefferson holds value in redraft formats despite Higgins' strong projection.

Insight page
NegativeValue67:28

JJ McCarthy identifies Justin Jefferson as a buy-low candidate in dynasty, citing the concern that elite wide receivers typically maintain stud-level production well into their 30s (ages 30, 31, and even 32 can be stud seasons), making age-cliff concerns overblown; Jefferson's current market price does not reflect his likely sustained elite performance trajectory.

Insight page

Juwan Johnson

NegativeUsage35:30

Juwan Johnson has been slow these last couple of weeks, indicating declining production or role.

Insight page
NegativeValue46:58

JJ McCarthy mentions Juwan Johnson as a potential filler piece to include in a trade package to acquire Nico Collins and Ollie Gordon, suggesting he has minimal value in the context of this dynasty negotiation.

Insight page

Kyler Murray

PositiveRole77:34

JJ McCarthy praises Kyler Murray for doing 'the Trent Dilfer thing to perfection,' indicating he is managing the game efficiently and allowing the Vikings defense to carry the team; this is mentioned in the context of the Vikings being a solid defensive team with good quarterback management.

Insight page

Lamar Jackson

PositiveProjection77:53

JJ McCarthy ranks the Ravens in the top 10 of team power rankings, citing a healthy Lamar Jackson and a good defense as key reasons for the ranking; this indicates confidence in the Ravens' fantasy outlook with Jackson healthy.

Insight page

Marcus Mariota

PositiveRole75:47

JJ McCarthy notes that Marcus Mariota (Penix) looks good for the Falcons, suggesting he may have gotten skittish for a brief period but is getting back to confidence; this indicates positive momentum for the Falcons' quarterback situation.

Insight page

Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveRole26:20

JJ McCarthy ranks Marvin Harrison Jr. at 35 overall among receivers, ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. at 43, citing improved situation with college quarterback reunion and expanded snap/route/target share following Noel's season-ending injury; McCarthy emphasizes Harrison's touchdown-scoring ability as additional red-zone weapon.

Insight page
PositiveValue42:05

Marvin Harrison Jr. is ranked WR29 in crowdsource dynasty rankings versus Brian Thomas Jr. at WR34 (5-spot gap, 19-spot gap in overall rankings); speaker has higher confidence in Harrison's situation and trajectory, noting his confidence is coming back up and the situation is clearer for the long term.

Insight page

Nico Collins

PositiveValue46:58

JJ McCarthy identifies Nico Collins as a priority acquisition target, noting that Collins is down in value after recent poor performances and that he would be willing to trade multiple future picks (2028 first, 2027 third, 2027 fourth, plus Josh Downs) to acquire him alongside Ollie Gordon from a 2-5 team.

Insight page

Odell Beckham

NegativeRole69:01

JJ McCarthy reflects on Odell Beckham Jr.'s career trajectory, noting that post-injury decline was partly due to quarterback and situation instability; when Beckham had capable quarterback play with the Rams, he demonstrated he could still perform at a high level, suggesting his earlier struggles were situational rather than talent-based.

Insight page

Ollie Gordon II

PositiveValue29:38

JJ McCarthy identifies Ollie Gordon as a high-priority acquisition target in dynasty, suggesting he would be willing to trade multiple future picks (2027 first, 2027 third, 2027 fourth, plus Josh Downs) to acquire him alongside Nico Collins from a struggling 2-5 team.

Insight page
NegativeProjection70:39

JJ McCarthy expresses strong conviction that Ollie Gordon has emerged as a legitimate fantasy asset after a precipitous fall from grace; Gordon has shown he can produce at a high level (15-17+ points per game) despite initial skepticism about spending FAB on him due to offensive line concerns. McCarthy was extremely skeptical pre-season but Gordon has proven he figured it out and the offense improved. If Gordon continues scoring 15-17 points per game, contenders should sell him at the trade deadline for a late 2027 or 2028 first-round pick to a team desperate for running back help.

Insight page

Omar Cooper Jr.

PositiveBreakout34:30

Omar Cooper Jr. is coming on as a nice emerging piece for the contending roster, providing additional depth to the WR room alongside Puka Nacua, CeeDee Lamb, and Parker Washington.

Insight page
NegativeValue72:39

JJ McCarthy references Omar Cooper as a potential trade asset that can be packaged with Chuba Hubbard or Sharbs to tier up at running back; Cooper is positioned as a complementary piece in a multi-asset trade to acquire a more valuable running back.

Insight page

Parker Washington

PositiveRole34:30

Parker Washington is part of a solid WR room on a contending 5-2 team alongside Puka Nacua, CeeDee Lamb, and Omar Cooper Jr.

Insight page

Puka Nacua

PositiveRole34:30

Puka Nacua is part of a solid WR room on a contending 5-2 team alongside CD Lamb, Parker Washington, and Omar Cooper Jr.

Insight page

Quinshon Judkins

PositiveValue73:38

JJ McCarthy expresses intrigue in Quinshawn Judkins as a tier-up target at running back, noting that while he is somewhat touchdown-dependent right now, the skillset is there and if the offensive line improves, he could become a major fantasy asset; value-wise, acquiring Judkins over Chuba Hubbard is a winning move.

Insight page

Sam LaPorta

PositiveRole51:21

JJ McCarthy prefers Sam Laporta over Kyle Likely in a trade return, citing safety and noting that while Likely looks great, the McCarthy experiment has not been super kind to him so far, suggesting Laporta offers more stability.

Insight page

Saquon Barkley

NegativeInjury35:30

Saquon appeared to return but was in-and-out of the lineup; team hopes he can get healthy moving forward as part of injury-decimated RB room alongside Chuba Barkley and Breece Hall.

Insight page
NegativeRole45:17

JJ McCarthy mentions Saquon Barkley as a potential return candidate in the Eagles backfield, noting uncertainty about his availability and suggesting caution about overweighting RB decisions around his status.

Insight page

Stefon Diggs

NegativeRole55:57

Stefan Diggs will benefit from Terry McLaurin's absence, becoming a primary target for Jaden Daniels. However, Dan Quinn did not allude to Diggs having a larger role, suggesting his usage may remain relatively stable despite the opportunity created by McLaurin's injury.

Insight page

Ted Hurst

PositiveRole35:15

Ted Hurst has a good future outlook as part of the TE room on a contending roster.

Insight page

Tee Higgins

PositiveProjection50:41

JJ McCarthy projects Tee Higgins to finish as a top-3 wide receiver in redraft formats this season, noting he will put up close to what Nico does and that this will be the best year of his career if he stays healthy.

Insight page

Terry McLaurin

NegativeRole39:30

Terry McLaurin has been in and out of the Commanders lineup; speaker views his removal from the situation positively for Jaden Daniels' development, as it allows the offense to settle on a clear game plan and role clarity rather than constantly adjusting around McLaurin's availability.

Insight page
PositiveInjury55:46

Terry McLaurin is sidelined for the rest of the season, opening up significant target share and opportunity for other Commanders receivers, particularly Antonio Williams and Stefan Diggs.

Insight page

Travis Etienne

NegativeValue58:58

A trade involving Travis Etienne and Antonio Williams occurred in the dynasty database; the speaker notes that for contenders, the Etienne side makes sense, but for middling or rebuilding teams, the Antonio Williams side is the preferred target for future value.

Insight page

Travis Hunter

PositiveRole26:20

JJ McCarthy notes Travis Hunter is playing more offensive snaps in Jacksonville, contributing to the apparent shift away from the 'Brian Thomas experiment' and reducing BTJ's target-share outlook.

Insight page

Treylon Burks

PositiveRole55:57

Traylon Burks is seeing increased volume and opportunity in the Commanders offense, with Dan Quinn indicating he will see more playing time alongside Antonio Williams as the team adjusts to Terry McLaurin's absence.

Insight page

Tucker Kraft

NegativeUsage49:44

Tucker Kraft is featured in a Prize Picks lineup with a projection of more than 2.5 receptions, indicating expected receiving volume.

Insight page

Tyler Warren

NegativeInjury35:30

Tyler Warren has missed some time but Strange has been able to fill in; however, Tyler Warren could be in a bad spot moving forward as the Colts are heading in a concerning direction, though volume could still be available.

Insight page

Tyrone Tracy

NegativeValue59:19

Tyrone Tracy was mentioned in a dynasty trade involving Antonio Williams, indicating his presence in the current market value discussions.

Insight page
Full transcript

Episode Transcript

1,009
0:00What is good? Running a little late, sorry for that one, but we're here.
0:05Got Beardless Wonder as Chev. How you doing? I've been warmer, that's for sure.
0:09Bad time to shave. Bad time to shave. Alright, well we got some action for you.
0:14We got a little live roster review, so you can grab those on the website.
0:19We'll do a live roster review when we're doing a live show.
0:23You can also get a personal roster review, which just us and a personal video.
0:28You can have it private or public and we'll spend at least 30 minutes breaking down your roster.
0:34We're gonna answer some questions. We're gonna talk about some player values and we'll probably end with some power rankings or something along those lines.
0:42Chev, you ready to get into it? I was born ready.
0:46Alright, well, we're gonna do this roster review off the rip.
0:49I see there's a couple questions in there. We got questions on the site, but I want to start off with with
0:57JJ McCarthy and kind of where you are valuing and what you're seeing from JJ McCarthy.
1:02Is this hmm and then and really like and if we like it like what are the Giants options and like how
1:09does the value for him kind of play out long term?
1:13Like, you know, you'd like to think that hey, you know with our dynasty brains.
1:18Well, they got them for this and they can sell them for that.
1:22And and and maybe so if things go well, but like how are you gauging if there is a nice resurgence if
1:29you like anything that you're seeing from McCarthy here through the end of the season?
1:34You know, how do we how do we deal with that?
1:38So there's a lot of questions as bad job on the host part here, but generally what are you seeing from JJ McCarthy right now?
1:46I we saw all the things that we never saw in Minnesota.
1:50So we have evidence of what some of the people that have been the most insufferable on the Internet about the last two and a half years.
1:59Like he's he was doing and executing, you know, touch balls layered layered over defenders putting it like in prime position.
2:05Everything's not a rocket ball. It looks good. I mean, it looks good from, you know, the 240 some odd yards.
2:12He threw four in the fourth quarter of the game against the Saints.
2:17And then I mean, it looked really good this past week against the Texans, even though they did lean on the run game.
2:24But I mean, that's just kind of been his M.O.
2:27since college. So if you are going to support him with a run game and he's going to do the big boy
2:35NFL stuff that we just hadn't seen previously and throw the ball with touch and stuff, this could be I mean, he
2:42could end up having one of the just being the the next in the bounce back quarterback rehab resuscitation era that we live in now.
2:50So that's a very real possibility after two good outings.
2:53Now, just some of the things he was doing makes me make me believe that it could be it could have just been, hey, terrible fit.
3:02We don't really rock like we were never going to vibe because I just he just doesn't mesh in the Kevin O'Connell system.
3:09And we all saw that as an indictment. I know I saw it as an indictment on his ability because of the success.
3:17Some guys that had not been selected with the draft capital that he had or, you know, any sort of pedigree.
3:24Right. So they they'd all had success, you assume.
3:27But that clearly wasn't the case. So there's a very real possibility right now.
3:31I want to see I want to see one or two more games.
3:35They're on bye week this week. I want to see one or two more games of not even just statistical high statistical
3:43output, but him just doing actual NFL quarterback stuff.
3:46And if that's going to be the case, then we're going to get, you know, if it's not super impressive for fantasy,
3:53that's better for us because if he shows you he's a really good quarterback, but it's not the best for fantasy, all
4:00the fantasy nerds are going to be like, well, he only averaged 13.8 points per game.
4:05And it's like, all right, well, I mean, he he's just getting acclimated to a system.
4:10I can buy into that if it's really good from a fantasy perspective because he just runs around all the time and
4:18just does stuff that isn't going to isn't sustainable long term.
4:21The thing that we say about every other single mobile quarterback can't throw the ball.
4:26Well, the thing that we said about Daniel Jones for a long time, then I'll probably be hands off still.
4:33But good for him for at least having this little run.
4:36Like that's that's good for him, even though like I wasn't a fan.
4:41I'm not a fan. I but I do admit that it has been impressive these last couple of games.
4:47So, yeah, long story less long. I'm a if I'm if I'm a J.J.
4:51McCarthy owner, I'm holding if I am looking to acquire J.J.
4:55McCarthy. And I believe go ahead and send send what you think it's going to cost.
5:00You know, don't send that as a first offer, but be willing to pay what you think it's going to cost if
5:07he has a good run out this season. And if you're a denier, just sit with me over here in the cabbage passion.
5:15Wait. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we got some a couple of trades here up on the screen here where J.J.
5:21There's a second and a third of twenty seven and twenty eight.
5:25Here's a twenty eight second, twenty eight second, twenty seven second.
5:29So twenty seven second, twenty seven second. These are just kind of straight up McCarthy trades here.
5:35Here's another twenty seven second. That's twenty seven third.
5:38So, you know, some people are just going to get out because this was dead money for so long.
5:44So I mean, me and Stan talked about it after the first go around, like he's way down in our right in our crowdsource rankings.
5:52But you can see a huge number next to his name because he's obviously shooting up because we're seeing some some life out of him.
6:00Right. And I think you hit some of those talking points kind of right on the head there for J.J.
6:07But, you know, what what? Like you said, you know, sometimes, you know, we I didn't love J.J.
6:13McCarthy as a first round pick in the NFL.
6:15Right. It wasn't my favorite. Right. Exactly. And that's exactly where that's where it starts.
6:20Yeah. And then he goes to Minnesota and you're like, all right, well, KOC has done some good stuff in the past with some quarterbacks.
6:29And there's all sorts of players around him. So the system and the ecosystem is all good.
6:34And at the time, you know, we're starting to lose a little bit of trust in KOC.
6:40But at the time, like we felt pretty good about what he was doing.
6:44And and generally from what you saw from Jim at Michigan to what he was doing at Minnesota, that now it feels
6:51like, yeah, this was probably didn't seem like a great fit.
6:55He wasn't, you know, jiving with the system. And instead of, you know, creating the system to help J.J.
7:01KOC sticking with kind of what he does, at least that's my interpretation of it right now.
7:07I'm sure there'll be plenty of stories down the line if this is a big reclamation.
7:12Right. Oh, yeah. But, you know, generally you saw him in that mop up duty and it was like, hey, wait a second.
7:20You know, don't don't don't jump into conclusions because this looked fine.
7:24But it was like it was like a bunch of and yeah, that's fine.
7:28But this is everybody was in. Hey, just don't mess it up mode.
7:32And now you come in here, you see him play a whole game against the Texans.
7:38And look, the Texans, if this was if this was the old this is that last year's Texans defense, this would be a lot more impressive.
7:46And I'm not trying to take anything away from him because, like I said, they haven't been good.
7:52They haven't they haven't been good. Right. And this but for him to go on the road, this was a big spot for the Texans.
8:00And just as a team, it's a huge letdown.
8:03Right. They had to have this. And you let you let the Giants come in with JJ first starting and like it
8:10seemed like they kept it really simple. And he fit a better in kind of what they're doing.
8:16Hey, but, you know, the thought process here is like, hey, Jim had him.
8:21John scooped him up. You know, there's some family conversation going there and he's probably telling him, hey, maybe it just doesn't fit right.
8:29Like I vouch for him, scoop him up. And, you know, as silly as that may sound, that could very well be
8:36what took place and was a big factor in getting him.
8:40And now you go there and you simplify the offense for him to come in.
8:44And this is impressive for him to do, regardless of who he's playing, to come in here and only be here for what, three or four weeks ish.
8:54Get a start. And, you know, yeah. Did he throw any touchdowns?
8:58No. But like I went back and watched every throw today.
9:01Like he made some great throws into some space with some anticipation.
9:05A lot of a lot of throws out to like that 15 yards out to the sideline ish area that were in good spots.
9:13I mean, he moved around all right. So all encouraging.
9:16But we want to see a group of games when we're talking about somebody because, you know, you just don't know.
9:23And nobody's really seen him and they didn't know what this was going to look like.
9:28So they don't have a whole lot to go off of.
9:32So could have went one of two ways. And it went a very, very good way for JJ McCarthy.
9:38And you got to be excited about it. Yeah, you can't.
9:42Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, you're good. The other part of this equation is what I kind of asked in the
9:49first part of the question is like, if this does go well.
9:53And the Giants, you know, what? How do you see them playing this out now?
9:58Like if it goes pretty well and not in a way of because I think he's going to take Jackson Dart's job.
10:05I don't think that's what's going to happen. Right.
10:08Right. But what I'm saying is Jackson Dart goes back to the starter.
10:12Do they carry McCarthy through his rookie contract? Yeah.
10:15Fuck. Yeah. As a backup or do they sell?
10:18No. So then if you're making trades for him, right.
10:21So then you should just it should it should it be an auto sell then at this point if you can get a second for him.
10:30No, I wouldn't sell. Because because if he's going to sit around as a backup for two, three years, then then that's
10:37going to you know, you're going to probably get another chance to buy because he's going to be priced as a backup.
10:44Yeah. He's going to become a really good talking point to say, man, I think J.J.
10:49McCarthy is going to go be a starter somewhere next year.
10:53And then when all that hubbub starts, then you could sell for a first of some sort.
10:59Or you just hold. And if he if he can actually play, then you've got another QB one that actually puts on the puts all the.
11:07He puts it all together in terms of your, I guess, viability.
11:11Now you're in a place where you can sell him for you can tell him from first plus.
11:17I think that I just don't think that he's a guy that I would sell right now.
11:23Personally, I can't I can't get behind that because you're not going.
11:26There's still going to be enough doubt surrounding J.J.
11:29McCarthy where you just don't like you're not going to get optimal value right now today.
11:35Yeah, there's not a whole lot of point of swiping on him because he is is kind of so low here.
11:42So it's going to be J.J. on all these.
11:44I can make up my own swipe slides. Let me let me ask you, Casey.
11:49Yeah, since we're now that we're here and real quick.
11:53Hang on. I'll interrupt you for a second. And Nate brings up a good case.
11:58And that was going to kind of be my point is like, you know, we mentioned what are they doing with him?
12:05He says he's a handcuff, not a backup. That's a good verbiage to kind of say it there.
12:11He is a backup and he very well could sit on the sidelines for a whole nother year.
12:17And then they got the they got the club option in.
12:2028, right? Is that what that be the if they want to exercise the fifth, which I can't imagine they would if he's right.
12:28You know, I don't know exactly what they would do there.
12:32They'd be forced with an option, but it's a good position for the Giants to be in.
12:37I don't know if it's a great position for fantasy owners right now to be trying.
12:42Like if you want, I can't begrudge you for getting value out of him now if he's going to sit around as
12:50sort of a high, high end backup that, you know, he can play with sort of like that handcuff.
12:56Well, it's interesting. That's that was the part of this that I thought was interesting.
13:01We'll see if he can play. So we'll just hear me out.
13:05Hear me out. So this is this could be turning into the Malik Willis thing that we just went through where Big
13:12Co was saying, hey, I'm Stash and Malik Willis.
13:15We're doing the same thing with we're doing the same thing with Mac Jones.
13:19Like how can it's the same principle. So if you want to sell now, you're just selling at a backup price.
13:26The minute he gets a starting job, you have another starter in a super flex.
13:31Right. But I guess what I'm saying is, is like you when Mac Jones was that starter for them for a little
13:38while, you probably had an opportunity to squeeze some more money out of that deal.
13:43And now the value has sunk back down where you can go acquire it.
13:48Like it's there's almost a better entry point now than then.
13:52And I don't know if that dichotomy, it maybe works the same here.
13:56If you need McCarthy to be a starter for you for the rest of the season and then you're like, hey, I can be a backup.
14:04He's super valuable to you now. And like you have a fun young prospect, but, you know, he's got to basically be your fourth.
14:12Right. If it's super flex. Right. Because you can't rely on him to be your third.
14:17He's an awesome four. So I don't know that that part is interesting.
14:22Yeah. No, I mean, it's a it's a fun.
14:25Hey, maybe he's not dead yet. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm really excited to see kind of what happens.
14:30But again, I watched every throw and I was good.
14:34I was impressed. It was like, hey, good for you, man.
14:37This is not easy to come in here and do.
14:41It can go one of two ways. And it went in the way that makes you like, all right, well, that was pretty exciting.
14:48He could have a bunch of a slew of bad games, which I would expect him to have a couple of down.
14:56You know, oh, that didn't look great. Like in that first mop up duty, there was two or three turnover worthy plays
15:03right away, which, hey, every quarterback has those. But we talk about the equity built and you care a lot less about it when the equity is built.
15:12But when it's not, those are like, oh, really hanging on those.
15:16Yeah, you know, absolutely. So, I mean, he could Chad Kelly this thing up.
15:21I don't think he will, though. No, this this looks good.
15:24And it just seems like it fits a little better.
15:27Hey, what we have here is look, Harbaugh, the Giants forever have been flailing, right?
15:32Since the last real coach they had. And Dayball had him in a couple spots here and there.
15:38But you never felt like the Giants were stable.
15:41Some of that's because of the GM. Some of that's just because.
15:45But you got a professional coach in here, regardless of Harbaugh is going to take him to the promised land or not throughout this.
15:53You don't know. But like for the Ravens, they got tired of what Harbaugh was and it probably ran its course.
16:00But for the Giants, this is a huge stabilization across the board.
16:04And for what he can do and what he is, McCarthy, that is, fits kind of what Harbaugh wants to do with
16:11this Giants team, at least for the interim until we can, you know, kind of take the training wheels off of this.
16:18Right now, we just got to play sound, fun.
16:21Like right now, you went out there, you played a basic offense and you just ran it well.
16:27Yeah. And that's what the Giants are trying to do, you know, baby step this thing.
16:32You're baby stepping this thing because you you're rebuilding his confidence along with the fact that you're trying to primarily trying to
16:39win football games, but doing it in a manner in which it doesn't.
16:44He set up for success, which maybe he wasn't based on the system, not to say that he couldn't play.
16:50So that's just kind of that's my that's my lean on the situation.
16:55I think the value is going to go up if he continues to.
16:59I mean, obviously, if he continues to play well, I think it would have to go really, really well for somebody to
17:06give up draft capital and the Giants to to bite on that based on Jackson Darts injury history at this point.
17:13Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll move on from McCarthy here.
17:16We'll answer a couple of questions. Then I said, like, we got a live roster review, but we got some more players
17:24we want to talk about here and talk about their value throughout.
17:28And if you guys want to throw some guys out while you're listening, feel free.
17:32We might get to him. We might not. But let's throw meatballs question up on the screen here.
17:38Hey, guys, in a guillotine league, I have four hundred ninety three out of a thousand in fab six most needed two running backs.
17:46I have Dobbin Rashad White and Javante Henry and Jed Judkins are available.
17:50How much of the four hundred ninety three fab should I put on them?
17:55So this is not my strong suit here. I haven't played in a guillotine league in a while.
18:01No. Yeah. I don't know. I spend a significant amount on Derek Henry.
18:05I mean, I like both of them, but I guess I don't know, like what the market is week to week on these sort of things.
18:14Yeah, no, I don't. I mean, I'm assuming. I mean, if it's a guillotine, then yeah, guillotine is not my not my jam.
18:21Yeah. So I would be I just I'm pulling up Derek Henry schedule because I feel like that's just the safest thing
18:28you can do to try to keep yourself from getting axed.
18:32But also think when Sean Jenkins out, I mean, he definitely outscored Derek Henry last week.
18:37So. Yeah. Yeah. See, the Ravens have the bills this week.
18:41So I would say generally, like if this if these two guys are are like a national level of player that, you
18:48know, and you need you need to running backs, you know, seems like you could, you know, the name of the game is trying to stay alive.
18:57I suppose. I'm going to assume you're going to want some money in your back pocket, but I don't necessarily have a great strategy for this.
19:05I would say probably at least half of that you would want to throw on those guys.
19:11But like what has been the what's been the number?
19:14And I'm sure it's coming down as the season's going on for these higher end assets.
19:20But any anything else to fuck meatball? Sorry, man.
19:22I would love to give you a better answer here, but just trying to be honest.
19:28Yeah. All right. What's up, Andrew? Question mark. Don't know who Andrew is, but you're here now.
19:33So what is JSN worth in a one QB half PPR league?
19:37I wouldn't last year. I won it last year, I'm assuming.
19:41Could win it again this year. Just thinking of keeping him.
19:44Yeah. If you're in a position to keep JSN and continue to win, then keep JSN like there's just there's none better right now.
19:52There's nothing. There's nothing to you. Hey, you got to the mountaintop.
19:56There's no need to leave unless you have like.
19:59Right. If you're in position to win and you don't need to get off of JSN and get multiple assets because you're
20:06in a bad position, then you just there's leagues where I got a league right now.
20:12We're one of the dudes who's got he basically has JSN and his team is Superman and it is keeping his team
20:19just in the mix with the better teams. So if you've got a pretty good roster and you won last year, then I'd keep it rolling.
20:27Don't don't worry about what he's worth right now.
20:30He's worth the most to you because you're trying to cash a check at the end.
20:35All right. Apparently, this guy thinks one of us is Andrew.
20:39Don't know how we got there. Or maybe you're just on the wrong channel.
20:44But hey, you're here now. So last year's champ, very young team.
20:48What is JSN? We just we just answered that.
20:51So that was the same question from from Ronnie there.
20:54All right. What do you think of Jaden Daniels?
20:57Are we going Jalen Daniels or Jaden Daniels? Jaden.
21:00Jaden. I'm keeping I'm keeping him till he retires, but I'm nervous.
21:04He's going to be in and out of injuries.
21:07OK, should I sell him now? So what is Jalen Jaden Daniels?
21:11You got to get this pay and Pam situation.
21:13Long term situation. Yeah, this was it's confusing now.
21:16But then he went he went with the wrong spelling as well.
21:20So yeah, and then Big D always gets me with always pronouncing Jaden Daniels wrong.
21:25Jaden Daniels. Now he's got me. Jaden Daniels name wrong.
21:29So should I sell him for a young QB and a value?
21:32So are you basically are you concerned with the long term of Daniels here?
21:37The commander's quarterback, to be clear. Yeah, no, no.
21:40I mean, I bought him all. I bought him all offseason and I will continue to do so.
21:46Like if he's going to he's going to get hurt.
21:49That's it's fine. It's not I don't feel like it's going to be anything career ending.
21:54He just and I think he's going to figure I think he's going to start to figure it out.
22:01I mean, but as far as the what the risk reward is here.
22:05Yeah, I'm going to swing on that all like every single time he's been he's been excellent from a fantasy perspective this year.
22:12So, yeah. Yeah. And it was, you know, a bummer and a little bit of a weird one last year.
22:19And then he comes back, elects not to have the surgery.
22:23Has it happened again? Throws the brace on basically.
22:25Seems like he's sort of unbothered by it at this point.
22:29Like if, you know, if we start popping up with a bunch of other injuries here throughout.
22:35But, you know, I think he'll be fine. And I think what we're seeing right now is as long as the whole
22:42regime doesn't change out from under him. From what I'm gathering, it seems like him and Blau are kind of getting on the same page here.
22:50They've had kind of Terry in and out of the lineup.
22:54I almost kind of like at this point that Terry is just now removed from the situation.
23:00Like, you know, not because I want Terry to not be in the situation, but it felt like it was like, is he isn't he?
23:08Is he around? We got to keep moving guys, changing the game plan around.
23:12What's your role? What's it? Hey, now we're going in here.
23:16We got digs. We got Antonio Williams. We got Chig.
23:19We got white. You know, this is what we're doing now.
23:23Right. So that part of it kind of I like it for Jaden Daniels to sort of figure out.
23:29Who, what, where, when, how and his progressions and who does what for him.
23:34Right. And I thought they looked great in the back half of that second of the back half of that Sam Fran game.
23:41Now, obviously, you're kind of playing with nothing to lose at that point.
23:45So you came out really flat and really gross for a minute.
23:49But it seems like maybe they're putting something together here that looks all right.
23:54And as long as his confidence grows, I don't think I'm terribly, terribly worried about injuries long term to the point where I would want to be selling.
24:03Uh, JD five at this point. No, I wouldn't.
24:06I mean, like what young quarterback are we talking?
24:09Right. Like Mendoza? No. Yeah. Like, I mean, I mean, darts got similar.
24:13Yeah. Issues. Right. The mystery box is literally the mystery box.
24:17Like, you know, Purdy, Purdy and Lawrence. I mean, I could, I could move off of, I could move off of them
24:24for either one of those guys, but. I wouldn't say they're necessarily young, but they're not old by quarterback terms.
24:31Right. I could move off of them for that.
24:33But I mean, like just looking at it right now, he's been the QB one from weeks three to three to six here or three to seven.
24:42And they were on, I mean, they run by.
24:45So that's me play two games, 26.7 fantasy points per game.
24:49I, he has this type of upside. So like, if you're just, if you're just going to be frustrated because you feel
24:56like you can't get his, you can't sell him for what you feel like he would be worth to someone else, then
25:03just hold him and enjoy having a quarterback. It's going to score a lot of fantasy points when he's healthy.
25:10Yeah. All right. We got two more here and then we're going to get to the roster review.
25:16Then we'll be back to answer some questions and whatnot.
25:19And we'll talk some values as well. Sort of like we let off with JJ here.
25:24Value. How far apart is BTJ and Marv? It can be far.
25:28They can't be far apart. We can look in the crowd source here.
25:32See what's up. Here's Brian Thomas. I would assume Marv's got to be above him.
25:37Marvin Harrison is at 80 wide receiver 29 and BTJ is at wide receiver 34.
25:42So five spots currently and 96 and it's a 19 spots in the crowd source overall ranking.
25:48Super flex tight end premium right now. In my personal rankings, I, you know, I feel at least comfortable because I know
25:55now what the situation is with Marv or I don't know the long-term situation with BTJ.
26:00And I like where Marv is at least for this year.
26:04And I don't know what BTJ is. I can look at my rankings real quick.
26:09But what's your thought process here? I would say confidence is a bit higher in Marv right now.
26:15It feels like his confidence is also coming back up right where BTJ still seems wavering generally.
26:20So I'll look at my rankings here and then what's your thoughts here?
26:24For me, I have a lot more confidence in Marv because I like the situation a lot better.
26:30Pretty much, it seems as though they're done with the Brian Thomas experiment in Jacksonville, if we're being totally honest.
26:37He's losing snaps to Josh Cameron and Travis Hunter's playing more offense.
26:41It just seems like they just don't really have a plan or like a plan of utility or a plan to move on.
26:48So he could just be there. And it's like, if you can help us do something cool, if not cool.
26:55Whereas Marv is back with his college quarterback, the role is going to grow, especially now.
27:00Good point with Dougie in the comments there. Noel's out for the season.
27:04So Marv then steps forward from a snap share and a route share and a target share perspective.
27:10And I mean, the one thing that we know is he can score touchdowns.
27:15So that just gives him another weapon in the red zone.
27:18I think that that's going to be really good for Marv.
27:22So without question, I would take Marv over BTJ right now.
27:26I got Marv at 35 overall and receivers and BTJ at 43.
27:30And I just kind of just stuck them in there behind guys like a Jordan Addison and Jeremy Bernard right now.
27:36Right. Like, would you rather have like I got Caleb Douglas at 53?
27:41Like, would you rather have Caleb Douglas right now or BTJ?
27:44Sounds crazy. But like, I think I think I would rather have Caleb Douglas right now.
27:50Well, yeah, it just like the stink isn't on him.
27:53The mental gymnastics that you would have to do to everything that you just said about JJ McCarthy being a backup.
28:00That's essentially what Brian Thomas Jr. has become. So we're we're praying that he gets a run out that we like sometime soon or there's an injury.
28:09Not we're not that we're saying that we want injuries, but an injury happens.
28:13And something happens that lets them that lets him become a target share, a part of the target share, part of the passing tree again.
28:21Whereas Caleb, Caleb Douglas, there is no competition. He is the passing tree right now.
28:26And it looks awesome. It's two for 70 and two touchdowns.
28:30It's a lot like Brian Thomas Jr.'s rookie. Sure.
28:33Right. Right. Right. I mean, it's just, you know, I there's just a lot more excitement and a lot more to be excited about with Caleb Douglas.
28:42Yeah. Now, if BTJ gets traded, then you get a little bit of a hope revival.
28:47Yeah. You got the Marv. You've got the Marv.
28:50Hey, you know, it's so good that we make a sequel, but the sequel is never as good as the original.
28:57So there also wouldn't surprise me if this week they come out and try to get him involved, try to get him some balls.
29:05And then maybe he isn't on the team in a week or two.
29:09Yeah. I mean, I've got to somebody's got to do something at the wide receiver position.
29:14And it doesn't make sense for them to just keep him in purgatory.
29:18If you can get you can get a fourth round pick for a dude that just doesn't fit your plans anymore.
29:25And he's been he's just showed up and done his work.
29:29You just you just don't really have utility for him anymore.
29:32So, yeah. Yeah. Trade him. Yeah. All right. Well, I got we're going to answer this question.
29:38Then we're going to the roster review. Then we're going to talk some values on players like Antonio Williams, Ali Gordon, Justin Jefferson.
29:45We'll talk about some of those guys here after we answer this question and some roster reviews.
29:51I'm sure we'll answer a few more along the way.
29:54So he said, would you trade JJ Rome and Gatsden or JJ Rome Gatsden 27 third for Lemon Antonio Williams 27 one early middle.
30:02I'm going to assume that's what that means. EM 28 one EM 10 man super flex half PPR of seven and oh
30:09my wide receivers are JSN CD neighbors. Rice Rome would give me five 27s included likely the 101.
30:15So basically saying that JJ is now that's Justin Jefferson or is that JJ McCarthy?
30:20It's got to be JJ McCarthy. Otherwise, this is one of the worst trades I've ever seen in my entire life.
30:27Well, he said his wide receivers are JJ CC JSN CD and JJ neighbors.
30:32Rice. So it's two one. So it could be, it could be, it's Justin Jefferson because there's two, there's no way that there's not two ones involved.
30:40There's not. So two, two ones. And I'm assuming he's saying they're going to be early to middle.
30:46Um, do do lemon Williams. Okay. So two late and two first.
30:50Yeah. Early middle first. So mills is called middle first.
30:54Yeah. One six ish. Let's say, um, I mean, I like really like Antonio Williams.
30:58I think lemon is, is a fine player. I still really like Roma dunes.
31:03Hey, and I think JJ is a stud. Um, I mean, we're going to talk some JJ, but I think generally I
31:10still want to lean on the JJ side, but maybe that's just because of, you know, historical bias.
31:16Well, in a 10 team, in a 10 team, you gotta, I mean, you want to be heavier on the studs, right?
31:23I mean, you've got he's seven and oh, this would give him five for, for what?
31:29Like you don't need it though. Like you got four already.
31:32You're all right with four 27 first and the one-on-one.
31:35So you're getting the best. What we think right now is the best asset in the class.
31:41And you've got three other ones in the 10 team league.
31:45So yeah, if Justin Jefferson is doing what he's doing, all those players and those picks are being traded for JJ.
31:51Right. Right. So I think I'm just hanging on to JJ and you're seven and oh, you don't need to do anything.
31:59It doesn't seem like those players would you need them to help you.
32:03So I'm just going to hang on to JJ and hope that we get back to where we've been of being the
32:10top receiver or the top five receiver in the league.
32:13Yeah. JJ, I mean, Roma do you say like you're you'd be selling though.
32:18You'd be selling Rome and Gaston for such a discounted price right now.
32:22Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And that's as good. It's a good move by who's ever trying to buy those guys from you.
32:29Those are two goodbyes. I think J Mo, we talked about Jackson to lead the show off.
32:35So we'll we'll we'll let that lie. But we tomorrow or after this is over, you can go back to the beginning.
32:42We hit some JJ and in the beginning of this bad Larry.
32:46All right. Let's jump over to a roster review here.
32:49We got live roster reviews for your pleasure over on the Web site.
32:54You can sign up for you can ask questions over there.
32:57Will Gadsden bounce back? Sure. I believe so. But yeah, I would say so.
33:02Let's jump into this roster review. Wrong one. We're not on prospects yet.
33:06Price picks. Chris comes in. He says, yo, fellas, thanks for all the advice over the years.
33:12Number one in the game. Appreciate it. So won the ship last year.
33:16I've been decimated by injuries, but winning games still have two great picks on a loaded roster.
33:22Should I hang tight or make a big contender move?
33:25Question mark. Any and all advice needed. OK, so it's 12 team.
33:29One point PPR point three tight end premium. All right.
33:32I don't think I've seen that. Six point passing touchdown.
33:35Looks like two wide receiver, two running back, two flex and a super flex.
33:40Five taxi, three IR and 10 bench. So it's got a good little squad here.
33:45This is the roster review that you get when you buy the online automated roster review.
33:50And then if you do the live one, you get the roster review with us talking about it for 10, 15 minutes.
33:57And then you can get a 30 minute roster review that's private or public if you want.
34:03That gets all this stuff plus a much deeper breakdown.
34:06So let's jump over to. Sorry, wrong one. Let's jump over to the league ranking here.
34:11And we can see. All righty. Then he's got Joe Burrow.
34:15He's got Mendoza. He's got golf. He's got Baker.
34:18He's got cousins. So he's got a solid QB room right now.
34:22He is five and two. He's got 969 points.
34:25That's pretty decent from what we've scoured through the league pre-show.
34:28Then he's got HN Hampton breeze. So there's a bunch of your injuries and Hamptons just might as well be injured.
34:35Chuba Barkley. There's another injury. And then Aaron Jones and Chuba.
34:39So those guys have been holding your, your RB room like glue together here.
34:43You got Puka CD and Parker Washington solid. And then Omar Cooper Jr.
34:48Who's coming on being a nice little light for you here.
34:51Josh Downs seemingly maybe on the trade block. Ted Hurst.
34:54Good future. Trey Harris. You know, we love him.
34:57Tyler Warren's missed some time, but strange has been able to fill in for you.
35:02Juwan has, has been slow these last couple of weeks.
35:06And then the two firsts that he has are looking like potential bottom fours right now.
35:11Right. And by bottom four, we mean like high 27 first.
35:14Right. So, you know, it should be one of them could easily be the one-on-one.
35:19Yes. So those are two very good picks. So you're in a spot here where you've got a good team.
35:26You won last year. So you, you cashed already and you're in a little bit of a precarious spot because a chance out for the year.
35:34Hampton, you know, could turn it around. And if Hampton turns it around, then, then you're okay.
35:40But, um, Chuba's giving you some points. Brees Hall should be back.
35:44Hopefully this week. Saquon seemed like maybe he was back, but kind of was, you know, in and out there.
35:50Hopefully he can get right. Um, so she have, what would you say here?
35:55Cause it seems like, yeah, it would be warranted to go after some, some, some, something to add to this team, preferably
36:02maybe a running back, but it could be a receiver too.
36:06Um, and you know, Tyler Warren could be in a bad spot here moving forward where the Colts are heading, uh, as
36:13far as, but you know, just cause your team is bad doesn't mean you can't get a bunch of volume.
36:20Um, but you got two really good first. You don't have your second, um, coming into this year.
36:25You do have a third. It's not yours. And a fourth.
36:29Uh, so this is a little bit of a, of a tough spot to be in because yeah, you got some capital
36:36to sell, but do you want to sell it to, you know, you've won once you have a chance of being patient
36:43maybe, and just getting two more awesome pieces. Um, but you know, the, the competitor inside of you wants to try to
36:51figure out a way to, Hey, how can I collect some more things to give me a chance this year?
36:57Or do you kind of pump the brakes and just say, Hey, I'm gonna let the chips fall as they may.
37:04If I can find something good for cheap, that's cool.
37:07But I'm just going to kind of let my opportunity flow into 27.
37:12Well, first and foremost, I would like to say that I really like, I really like the squad.
37:18I just, I mean, you've been, he said decimated by injury, which is, I mean, there's a point where you're looking at,
37:25you're staring down at Devon H and Puka being out and then just playing that game with Puka every week.
37:31So I understand where, where you're coming from there in terms of the injury front.
37:36We pulled up earlier that, that one team that had Deshaun Watson and Geno Smith at quarterback.
37:42Where was that? So as I pull that up, I think that it's Kyle, he's got Jalen hurts who just got hurt.
37:49And then Deshaun Watson and Geno are his only two options.
37:53Yeah. Kyle. Yeah. That's good. But you're yeah. Going by the username.
37:57Mm-hmm. It's good. It's good. He's five and two.
37:59So he's in an okay position. He just lost hurts.
38:03And now he's playing with, you know, which, you know, we were playing with house money with Deshaun and Geno is, is a fun too.
38:11If you're playing one, like a scrubby QB build, but you'd like it if he was your third, but it's working all
38:18right for you now, but you have no stability there really.
38:22So you do are, you are flushing some quarterbacks.
38:25The thought process being that you could. Could maybe ship Baker off to this guy.
38:30Potentially. If he's, you know, takes two to Tango, of course.
38:33Now, this gentleman has to believe the story that you're telling him.
38:37He's a little weak at the running back position, but does it, does the pain of, because I would just straight up
38:44try to get, I'd try to get Sharbs and Josh Jacobs off of him.
38:49And just send Baker. Maybe after, maybe if Baker has a strong game this week, that's what, that's our point where we
38:56can start to get people to buy back into the offense.
39:00It's been bad for over a year now, but Zach Robinson's a terrorist, but that's not, that's not, that's not what we're talking about today.
39:08Today, we're talking about this roster review. And trying to figure out how to get this running back, how to get a
39:15running back onto, because you don't want to give up either one of those first.
39:20I'm not touching one of those first for Derek Henry, but maybe just maybe if this starts to go poorly for this
39:27guy, he'd be willing to sell you Derek Henry for your 28 first.
39:31Yeah. That's basically the piece that I'd be trying to float around there to see kind of who wants to tango with
39:39that and try to hang on to those 27s.
39:42Maybe you go, you're going to have a good time in 27.
39:46So, you know, and that should really help out some depth for this roster and equity for this roster that you have.
39:53So the 28 piece would be the piece that I'd be slinging around because you don't really want to be selling off
40:00too much off your team outside of a quarterback, but finding that match to get the proper value for a name brand
40:07quarterback, like, you know, golf or Baker, or, I mean, you know, if maybe you want to sell, maybe Kirk and Mendoza
40:14is an easier sell for you for a crappy team and Baker or golf is a, is a good sell for one of the higher winning teams.
40:23Right. So those would be kind of how I split that up potentially, or, you know, you, you also have, you know,
40:30guys who you like and don't like. So maybe you really like Mendoza and you don't want to sell them.
40:37That's cool. Um, but you're in good position there.
40:40So you have opportunity. Um, there's the one guy down here has, you know, this guy's, uh, in okay position.
40:46He's three and four. He's got 841 points. He has Josh Allen and Jaden Daniels, no real third.
40:52Um, but you know, maybe, maybe he would want Baker as a third quarterback.
40:57Probably not. Um, the Deshaun Watson and Gino guy, we talked about him.
41:01Uh, the Bo Nix and Malik Willis guy. He, he could potentially be interested.
41:06He's one in six, he might be more into a Mendoza, but like, who do you snag from his team that would really help your case of winning?
41:15It's probably only at this point, basically, uh, I'm in Ross St.
41:19Brown, which I don't know if he wants to sell him.
41:22Right. Right. So, you know, at that point, you know, maybe one of those first could come out and you get, you know, you get some picks back.
41:32If, if you could get a player of Amin Ross caliber and you think he can help you carry over, there is
41:39a Braylon Allen on this team, which you have.
41:42Bryce or a Brees Hall. Right. Um, which would kind of help stabilize your backup situation there.
41:47So I don't know what you could potentially get trade for, you know, somebody like a Braylon Allen, but, um, that might not be a bad thing.
41:56Are you paying 27 to for Braylon Allen? Well, he didn't have a 27 to, but, um, I don't think.
42:03Okay. Any two. Uh, if you have, if you have Brees, I don't think it's the worst, right?
42:09I don't love it. Yeah. That's a bad, that's a, that's a tremendous value spike.
42:13He's locked on the team for two more years and then he'll go somewhere else.
42:18You're gets a high, high value handcuff. Like he's, I'm, I'm a big Isaiah Davis guy, but, um, you know, that's not,
42:26that's not working out at the moment. So, you know, I don't know what it, what, if anything, that guy would take for, um, Braylon Allen.
42:34But like you said, that's, you know, can I, can I, he, you could ship it, uh, maybe your 28 too.
42:41I don't know if that gets it done, but, um, that that's not a terrible option, but man, generally, um, if you're
42:48going to part with one of those high end ones, it's gotta be a big deal, right?
42:54You gotta be getting something really good. Like is Ali Gordon on this team?
42:58That's two and five, uh, a rental for your team for this year.
43:03And you have a Chan. Like, is that, is that a, is that a possibility?
43:07How do you strike with something like that? Just throw that 28 too out there.
43:12This guy doesn't, let's see what he's got. He's got, he didn't have a 27 first.
43:18Yeah. That's a big, that's a big value spike and you're securing another backfield with a dude that can actually play.
43:25Right. I don't mind that. I don't mind that at all.
43:28Yeah. So, I mean, Ali Gordon would be somebody who I would go maybe see if I could target and find a
43:35way to potentially give this guy, um, you know, we talked about next year's pick or a three and a, and, and
43:43a player off your team from this year. Um, so I like, I like that.
43:47Like right now, those are kind of the best options from just not having to get off of a one that you have.
43:55That's going to be a high, high, high value one.
43:58And what do you, what do you think? What do you think about going and getting, going and trying to get Dylan Sampson off of this rebuilder?
44:07Hoagie heads. Um, I, I mean, I don't know if I had Quentin, if I had Judkins, maybe.
44:13Well, I just think that one, there's been some, there's been some injury concern with Judkins.
44:18So, and he just, I mean, first came back 77 yards on nine touches.
44:23And we know that that role with Todd Munkin, like he's going to have a pass catching back.
44:29That's why, I mean, Justice Hill played so much the last couple of years when he wasn't hurt.
44:35So I like the, I like the stash upside and the fact that he could maybe help you as a flex, give you some more depth.
44:43And even if he, I mean, if he's healthy and he gets the workload, I think Dylan Sampson's really good.
44:50I don't know. Yeah. I like, I think Dylan Sampson functioning with this offense with, uh, with Judkins is, is, is, isn't the worst.
44:57Right. And I like, I like it a lot.
45:00I think so. Well, I, it was an incomplete thought.
45:04So you, you go, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, send Fernando Mendoza potentially
45:11for CJ Stroud, Mike Dylan Sampson as CJ Stroud's value to is CJ Stroud's value to a rebuilder.
45:17Like is Fernando Mendoza more valuable to you at that point?
45:20Or do you feel like you could sell CJ Stroud for more?
45:24Yeah. I feel like Stroud has, has rebounded enough where that's probably a net neutral for most people or, you know what
45:32you got in Stroud, at least at this point, are we, are we looking too deep into the RBs because he has, you know, Saquon could come back.
45:41Aaron Jones is all right. Um, you know, I like grabbing one of those backups, but like, if you could grab, like,
45:48if you could grab Ollie Gordon off that guy's team and then.
45:52Obviously. Yes. If you can get that, but I'm just, I was thinking about trying to move like the young quarterback to get something else.
46:00And then. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I like the idea of moving the young quarterback on a, on a, to
46:07a bad team who could give you something decent for it.
46:11Um, I just don't know where that is at the moment.
46:14Right. But I think that's a good thought process.
46:17Um, where was the Ollie Gordon guy? Like what else does he have on this team that you would want to buy
46:25that, that could maybe help you in the future?
46:28Like there's not a downgrade of quarterback enough. I don't think to come like, you can't get Mendoza shuck and then get something else on top.
46:36Right. I don't want to go to Daniel Jones with those guys.
46:40Um, but you know, he has dart. Right. So right now he's Jones is his third.
46:45Um, like how, what I'm looking to do is like, what could I give him?
46:50That's a little more valuable to get something plus Ollie Gordon off his team.
46:55But he, you know, I don't, maybe he wants it.
46:58Would he trade Nico Collins away right now? Like, do you get, do you, do you try to see what that 28
47:05first and your third this year and something else can get Nico and Ollie Gordon basically trade all your picks from this
47:12year that aren't the 21st, which would be the third, the fourth and the first of 28.
47:18You try to go get Nico and try to go get Ollie Gordon.
47:22Um, maybe you toss him back, you know, make Juwan Johnson in that trade to just try to throw something else in there.
47:30Yeah. I mean, that's, uh, or Josh downs. He could be on the move.
47:34Um, let me go back up to, so that was kind of where I was heading is like, can I, can I
47:42get, can I add more stuff to it? So I'm just not buying that.
47:46I'm on, then I unload something bigger. I, I add Nico to this team.
47:51That's a two and five team. Nico's down a bit right now on a, on the last game or two.
47:57Um, so can I throw the 28 first, the 27, three, my 27, four, I throw them Josh downs.
48:03Can I throw all that at them? You know?
48:06So that's, that'd be kind of interesting to see if I could do something like that.
48:12Pick up Ollie Gordon and Nico. Um, I like the buckshot approach.
48:16I like that. Yeah. All right. Anything else before we wrap this one up?
48:20No, I mean, I just, I, you're in a really, really good spot.
48:24Don't do anything with those 27 first. And then if you can work out, if you can work out something to fortify
48:32that running back room just a little bit, you should be in position to win some money again.
48:37Absolutely. That's where we want to be at. Um, all right.
48:41We're going to talk some player values. We're going to answer some of the questions you got in the chat.
48:48We'll answer some of the questions on the site here.
48:51I got a discord question, but first we got to go with some prize picks.
48:56All right. So prize picks America's number one sports pick app.
48:59The app's really easy to use. I'm sure everybody's used it by now, uh, for player picks.
49:05Just pick more or less than a few players.
49:08That's locking that lineup. That's it. Rather pick teams prize picks has that too.
49:13Uh, just pick a winner spread or total on any game or fight.
49:17Prize picks is available, but not limited to California, Texas, and Florida.
49:21We've got it in South Carolina. I think it's pretty much available just about anywhere.
49:26So make sure you check that out. Uh, best of all with your first $5 lineup, you can play, um, with your first $5, you can win $150.
49:35When you win your first lineup, use promo code HMA, um, when you sign up.
49:40So they just switched up their offer. No better time to join.
49:44You play your first $5 lineup. And if you win that lineup, you get $150 in bonus lineup.
49:50So promo code HMA, uh, to sign up here.
49:52We've got one for this week. This, this past week was my first, the first time that I didn't win throughout the
50:00NFL season, at least one prize pick. So I'm, I was in the negative in this past week, but here we're, we're trying to bounce back.
50:08We got Tucker craft more than two and a half receptions.
50:12We got Jalen Warren more than one and a half receptions.
50:15We got Colby Parkinson more than one and a half receptions.
50:19We've got Antonio Williams more than one and a half receptions.
50:23And we've got Rashad white more than one and a half receptions.
50:26Go check out prospects is you haven't already. All right, Chev, let's pop a couple of these questions off.
50:33Then we're going to talk some Antonio Williams. We're going to talk some Justin Jeffrey.
50:38We're going to talk some Molly Gordon. Um, pop it off.
50:41Let's do it. Um, would you trade Higgins for Jefferson?
50:45No. Like dynasty, no redraft. Redraft. Yes. You don't hate it.
50:48Okay. Redraft. This is a guy said last week before on favorites and phase.
50:53I was like, I think T Higgins finishes the watch super one.
50:57I think he finishes the watch super three. Overall.
51:00Oh, I think, I mean, I think T is going to give you like, I mean, he's going to put up close to what Nico does this year.
51:09It's going to be the best year of T's career.
51:12Just stay healthy. Yeah. Missed the last couple of live shows.
51:16Listen to him on Spotify. Thanks for the content.
51:19Yeah. You can always listen later. Um, all right.
51:21We got appreciate you, James. Um, Christian Watson plus Scadaboo plus an early 27 second or Tedaro McMillan and likely or Sam Laporta.
51:29My choice. Would you take this trade? No Ted and premium.
51:33So Christian Watson Scadaboo for an early second or for Ted in either likely or Laporta.
51:38Yeah. I'd pull the trigger on Tedaro McMillan and the second and the tight end.
51:43Um, yeah, no, that's the second is a part of the second's a part of the camp.
51:48Scadaboo Christian Watson. Oh, plus the early second. Yeah.
51:51Yeah. Yeah. I think you're getting two premium players there.
51:55Um, I'd probably take Laporta with some safety there as far as where we're, we're, we're bouncing back a little bit likely
52:02looks great, but the McCarthy experiment has not been super kind to him so far.
52:07Um, so we shall see. Um, that's a, that's a, that's a decent trade.
52:11That's a, you get the big pineapple. Yeah. I just got to pay to play.
52:16Want to, want to, want to acquire as much of that as humanly possible before it, before he breaks out all the way breaks out.
52:24Someone offered me a late 27 first for Jonathan Taylor.
52:28I think he's worth more than one first. See.
52:31All right. I'm going to come back to that.
52:34Uh, baby face. She didn't even know that was you.
52:37Yeah. I mean, uh, me, uh, ladder, a buca, a buca, a big bowl.
52:41I'm assuming this is dynasty. Um, assuming, I mean, it's really there.
52:45It's the office meme. It's the same picture. Yeah.
52:48Um, so let's go back to the Jonathan Taylor one.
52:52Cause you had him on the docket to maybe discuss today.
52:55Uh, we've been discussing him. He's worth, he's in such a precarious spot right now to me, um, where I am very
53:02concerned if I am, uh, and you guys seem way less concerned than I, um, where I'm just, if I'm a contender,
53:10I'm, I'm concerned if I'm a rebuilder and that's what, and you got Jonathan Taylor, I think just hang on right now.
53:17If that's what you're, if that's what that is, cause he's definitely worth more than that.
53:22Right. Um, I just, I, I mean, I think we might be, we might be overthinking this thing a little bit, man.
53:29I mean, he's one of the, no, like in general, like if he goes somewhere, it's not the Colts.
53:35It's likely a team that's winning football games. It's likely a team that is probably better at running, like probably a more functional offensive environment than the Colts.
53:45Is there another running back? Heck, is there another place that would actually trade for him that has a running back even
53:52remotely close to the realm of player that Jonathan Taylor is?
53:55Vikings? No. The Seahawks? No. The Giants? No. So maybe it's just, maybe it's just a couple weeks of him getting fully
54:03acclimated to the system or they're just saying, screw it.
54:06We need to win. Let Boobie spin and him getting 20, 27, 28 carries and running for 200 yards and three touchdowns
54:13or whatever he can do because he is one of the five best running backs in the league.
54:19Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with a lot of that.
54:22You know, I just, I just sometimes with the trade, things get weird.
54:26They do. But I think this is weird for the guys that are not physical.
54:31Like you're, we're at the end of their prime or we've seen some down years.
54:36Yeah. I don't even mean in that regard. I just mean, you know, just figuring it out with that.
54:42Sometimes it's cohesion right away and other times it might take a minute and it stumbles around and you're like, I can't
54:50start them with the, with the trade. And then I can't start them a week or two after that.
54:56And then, then you start them and it's like, for whatever reason, like, it's usually not asked with running back.
55:02So no, and I will, that's probably one of the easier transition positions.
55:07Right. Right. Especially if it's a, you know, a run scheme that you're familiar with and you've run out of a lot
55:14and had success with, which if you're trading for him, I don't know why.
55:19You wouldn't be running whatever this, you know, whatever the Colts are running currently.
55:23Hey, what do you like running? Okay. Let's do that.
55:26Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's interesting. We'll, we'll kind of see where he, where he lands.
55:32If, if anywhere, you know, I don't, we shall see.
55:36But yeah, they're probably going to spy. They're just going to hold on to him out of spite.
55:41All right. Antonio Williams was in, Antonio Williams was in one of those questions.
55:46And let's talk about Antonio Williams value. No. When we talked about Jaden Daniels, some no Terry for the rest of the season.
55:54It's going to be him and digs and chig.
55:56And yes, sir. So what are we, how are we viewing Antonio Williams right now?
56:01Like a Viagra pill to face, baby. Right now he's in super flex tight end premium.
56:07He's at 113 wide receiver 38. Okay. All that's cool and everything, but let's talk that shit about Antonio Williams real quick.
56:14So it just, it just hasn't fully happened yet.
56:17Now I will admit because I hate Clemson so much.
56:20I was out on Antonio Williams. I have since capitulated and admitted that you were right.
56:25I was wrong. This, this is somebody who can really, I think you're really who there's a Mecca booka esque upside with Antonio Williams.
56:33Like the first part of his rookie year, not the last part where he was bad.
56:38Like, but it's been fairly safe. I mean, I know we were talking to the group chat today and Jeremiah shared the
56:46thing with, he shared the thing about what Jaden Daniel said.
56:49But I took away from that, that he thinks that he's going to do well with the opportunity, which means he's going
56:56to have the opportunity to prove that we can build this thing around you.
57:01Or at least you can be a very large part of what we're building here.
57:06So, you know, when Dan Quinn was asked about Stefan Diggs, he wasn't, he wasn't alluding to him having a larger role,
57:13but seeing more from Traylon Burks, who, hallelujah. And Antonio Williams.
57:17So, I think with, I think that this is a tremendous opportunity for him to play his way into becoming the next
57:24rookie receiver, which we just did the 27 mock, or I don't know what exactly we call that.
57:30But that was a really fun thought exercise. And I think that the bucket that he could potentially fall into is he's
57:37going to end up playing his way into being a 27 mid first.
57:41Yeah. I mean, dude, I, I know you were, you were on this, you were on this.
57:47Yeah. I mean, look, you, you, you, you, you, you win some, you lose some right now.
57:52This looks good. Well, it looks good from what we think is going to happen.
57:57I mean, it hasn't been points on what hasn't been points on the lineup, but it's happening.
58:03It seems like it's all there. It just hasn't.
58:06The best thing, Casey, the best thing that could have happened to us is that 87 yard touchdown didn't count because if
58:13you, if it goes to NFL, like NFL, the NFL tweets that out and everybody gets to see how fast and explosive
58:20he looked on a, and it's not like they cheated.
58:23It just lined up wrong. So it wasn't that somebody did something wrong and like he created that out of basically just space and opportunity.
58:32So that's the best thing that could have happened to his value for right now, because you can still, people don't want to pick them up.
58:40But if you're getting a 17, 18 point a game score in there and then Terry McLaurin's gone, I think his value
58:47spikes up, but people don't seem to be catching on to the fact that he's making plays and stuff.
58:54There's an interesting trade here in the database that happened on the 23rds a couple days ago.
58:59Travis CTN or Antonio Williams. And you can vote on all the trades in the database, which is always kind of fun.
59:06I mean, obviously a contender makes, makes a ton of sense for Travis.
59:11Like the ETN side, right? But yeah, but I mean, any sort of middling or rebuilder and I'm, I'm going to be on the Antonio Williams side.
59:19I think that that's where we're going to get paid off for that.
59:24Yeah. Antonio Williams in a third for Rashi Rice.
59:27Tyrone Tracy and Antonio Williams for Amara on Hampton.
59:30I kind of don't hate that on the Hampton side.
59:33Bold strategy, Cotton. Yeah. I mean, then there's some really cheap Antonio Williams, Tyler Algier.
59:38That's ridiculous. Trey Tucker, cheap. Kirk Cousins, cheap. Even no quarterback in return.
59:42And super flex Emmanuel Wilson, cheap. Antonio Williams in a first for Brees.
59:46That's fun. That's a good, that's a good tier up tool.
59:50Yeah. So I mean, look, if you're going to use them in that facet, then I don't mind.
59:56But like, I'm, I'm holding on for dear life and still buying at, you know, at any cost that you, you know,
60:03two, two into three, multiple twos, late first, even that's where I've had him anyway this year.
60:09And I think he's, you know, I think he's that good.
60:12And I think, you know, Terry's older, had a struggle through the season.
60:16I was a big Terry fan. They bring in digs.
60:20We were excited. And now we're going to kind of get the run out that we wanted.
60:25Even the, they brought digs in and unfortunately Terry got hurt.
60:29And now we're about to see a little bit of what we kind of thought might be when we were in, you know, May, June, July.
60:37Right. Right. And him and JD seem to have a little bit of something going on there, but although Chig could have something to say about that.
60:46We'll see. I think he will. I mean, I think this is where we're assuming that this is not going to go
60:53well from a, from a passing volume or a passing ceiling perspective.
60:57And I think that this could be, this could be a place where they all have some sort of, but just a
61:05poor man's Chicago bears type outfit where you might not know where it's going to come from all the time.
61:11But they've got some good pieces that you can rely on to get you wide receiver to running back, you know, wide
61:18receiver to tight end fringe tight end one numbers.
61:21Yeah. John comes in here and says, is Chris bell done?
61:25I don't know. I would probably done with what done recovering from a tremendous knee injury.
61:30Did he get hurt? I had to Google it while you were talking there at the end, which is why I didn't say anything for a second.
61:39Um, so then he said, is Chris, would you drop Chris bell to shed points for the one-on-one is no, he's not scoring points.
61:47So what, what do you, well, no, no, no, I wouldn't do that.
61:51Um, is, does the 28 RV class look better than the 27 RV class?
61:56Uh, figure out who's coming out. Yeah. That's a tough, tough answer.
62:00Um, are waddle and or marks droppable? I don't think Woody marks is droppable.
62:04Um, I don't think waddle is droppable. I mean, I would assume that's a redraft question.
62:09Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I got it, but, um, it's gotta be, it's good.
62:14Yeah. It's gotta be. But even like, I feel like marks has been as, as flexibly need them.
62:20Yeah. I'm not dropping. I'm not dropping. I'm not dropping at all.
62:24Yeah. How do you guys feel about me sending JSN for Jamar plus Stevenson?
62:29He also has Garrett Wilson, Henry and Coker. So JSN for chase and Ramondre.
62:33I, I would, I would try to get Jamar and Garrett Wilson.
62:37Yeah. I mean, if he's, I mean, if he's asking, if he's, I mean, he's fucking asking like, well, I could, he
62:44said he would give me Garrett Wilson too. Then yeah, I would, I'd do that.
62:49Jamar. I think Jamar is about to be, he's going to blow some shit up in the back half of the season.
62:56Um, well, this is a followup from a question before he said he has Jackson dart on IR.
63:02So he's wondering if likely is a better option for Laporta because of the combo next year.
63:08If it's, you know, I don't know the best ball stacks great, but like, I don't, I don't necessarily put more value on that stack moving forward.
63:17Then, you know, Laporta is a great player. So I don't, I don't think that moves the needle for me necessarily.
63:24Um, the best ball stacks. Nice. Um, favorite spot for Garrett Wilson.
63:28I mean, obviously the Niners would be cool. I don't think they're trading them though.
63:33Yeah. Um, all right, let's talk, let's talk a little Justin Jefferson for a second.
63:37So what do we do with Justin Jefferson right now?
63:41Is he, is he a buy? You got to buy, you got to buy, right?
63:46Yeah. Uh, no, that wasn't a convincing. I'm just getting tired of this shit, man.
63:51Why do we have to, why do we have to go through?
63:54Why do we have to go through these like dead periods just because you screw up at the quarterback position?
64:01Like, why can't we just get it? Why can't we just do the right thing at the quarterback position?
64:07Kirk Cousins should still be playing quarterback for his team.
64:10Sam Donald should still be playing quarterback. And now you got Kyler over there.
64:15Just, just using his big boy voice and all these interviews.
64:19And not doing it. Just not doing anything else otherwise.
64:22And we're getting another dog shit season from Justin Jefferson.
64:25We had the one explosion week with shout out to the one dude who decided to victory lap week one.
64:32How's that been going for you since? Big dog.
64:35Well, any who. Huh? About Jefferson? Yeah. You remember we did the fights video and he was like, oh shit, it's just so many bad takes.
64:43How dare you say Justin Jefferson is going to be good.
64:47Not going to be good. I mean, I would, I would assume that we'll have a run of Jefferson bouncing back, but
64:54I think it's over for Justin Jefferson by the time they get.
64:58Wow. I think that's probably an overreaction. This stream on amphetamines.
65:02Yeah. I think, I think it's a slight overreaction.
65:04He didn't forget how to play. And I don't, I understand what you're saying about the quarterback, but I mean, you know,
65:12I don't think that Kyler is going to come back here and say, you know, we're going to just target the bejesus out of them.
65:20But I think, I think we'll be, we'll have some games that remind you of Justin Jefferson.
65:25And then we'll kind of see where they're at coming into next year.
65:30I mean, it can, it can be a little, it could be a little rough, but I think, I think you got
65:37to close your eyes and buy it. You know, and I'm not saying like, no, I know you're right.
65:43You're absolutely right. I'm just saying that's the part.
65:46So we need to express what that is. That's all.
65:49Yeah. Real quick. We want the value. We want the value to be dropping down and then buying in.
65:56Right. I'm not saying buy Justin Jefferson at yesterday's prices.
65:59I'm saying buying Justin Jefferson. If the bottom is falling out.
66:02Right. Yes. Like if there's people who say it's over, I think it's over for Justin Jefferson.
66:08By the time they get one that has learned to play well, it will be 2028.
66:13People that feel like that go buy Justin Jefferson.
66:16Yeah. Go buy Justin Jefferson from that guy. Yeah.
66:19Like I, I just, the reason I said it that way is because this is a point where you have to exercise
66:26discipline in sticking to the process of, Hey, go buy good players when it's not going well.
66:32It's not fun. You're not going to be excited about it until it rebounds.
66:36You're like, man, thank you. Past self for buying Justin Jefferson.
66:40When he was putting up wide receiver 25 or wide receiver 30 numbers.
66:44Like just, you know, but it's not going to be fun to do right now, but you need to do it.
66:511000%. Right. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I think he's still a good player.
66:56I don't know how this season is going to go.
66:59Hopefully we see this offense get incrementally better here.
67:02You know, obviously you got the JJ crowd going wild for what he just did over there, which we'll kind of see how that goes and continues.
67:11Um, and, and good for good for the JJ crowd for, for being able to stick it to some people here and there.
67:18But you know, when you make that your entire personality, you get to the point where you just got to unfollow those kinds of people.
67:27Cause it's like, all right, man, like there's gotta be something for else.
67:31I got it. Like this is take your, take, talk your shit here and there, but like you just come off as a clown.
67:39It's just like, there's got, you gotta have something else to be able to talk about.
67:44Um, you know, is what it is. Um, anyway, but Justin Jefferson, I think, um, should, should be a buy low.
67:51Right now, if that's a possibility on the L and the flip side of this, let's talk a little Ollie Gordon for a second here.
67:59Um, and then maybe we'll hop into some power rankings.
68:02So, um, it hasn't produced an 18 months. Yeah, you're correct.
68:06Correct. I'm out unless he's super cheap. I mean, age cliff value though.
68:10See, this is the problem though. Like you could, you could go with the value cliff here with the age, like Justin
68:17Jefferson, like there's all the good, almost all of these good receivers are going to play well into their 30s.
68:24Like 30 is still going to be a stud season.
68:2731 is going to be a stud season. 32 could be a studs.
68:31Like, you know, like Devante Adams is still out there doing his damn thing.
68:36Now he did get nerfed for a couple of years.
68:39They're trying to bounce around and catching some injuries with him and his quarterbacks.
68:44But, um, but yeah. So I was trying to think of a, who, who's a, who's a wide receiver that like we
68:51just missed out on the whole back half of their career because of a, of a quarterback or can't get right situation.
68:58I was really struggling to come up with Odell.
69:01Yeah, I guess maybe he was overrated the whole time.
69:04Fuck no. A little bit just post injury. Maybe a little.
69:08Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like we, yeah, because you kept holding out that it was going to be, you know, but I
69:15mean, you, you very, if, if capable quarterback play, then he goes out and does all the awesome stuff that he did with the Rams.
69:23Like you could see that he'd still play. It's just, you know, you just need capable quarterback play.
69:29Yeah. All right. Let me find Ollie Gordon here.
69:32Not down far enough yet. All right. So generally though, I think people were very flippant about whether you should or shouldn't
69:39pick up Ollie Gordon and that it was a waste of fab.
69:43And now it has become a, in the redraft streets and most, he was owned in most dynasties that are, you know, maybe not an FFPC.
69:52But in any regular format of dynasty, he was probably already owned.
69:56All right. So we can see him right here at, I don't know if he was doing, I don't know what 270.
70:03So he's way down here. Right. What is Ollie Gordon's outlook for the rest of the season?
70:09And I mean, obviously this is a pretty cut and dry.
70:12If you're a contender, you probably sell, but if you're an HN rebuilder and you have Ollie Gordon, do you just hang
70:19on to him or do you sell him? What are you thinking about Ollie Gordon in the play that we're seeing right now?
70:27Okay. Okay. Now then, so I think that you have to, if you have, if you have a Chan and you have
70:34Ollie Gordon, then you just, you ride this out until, unless somebody is willing to give you what would be, what would be at the trade deadline.
70:43Somebody's just dead at the running back position. I sell for a late 27 first to a guy who I, you know,
70:50who a guy I'd knows headed towards the buy and maybe towards the championship.
70:55That's where I think this is going. I think he's going to play that well.
71:00He and Braylon Allen have really shown me something in terms of, and I was, I was extremely skeptical.
71:06You can go back and look at the readout on the redraft side.
71:10I was extremely skeptical about spending a large portion of your fab for Ollie Gordon because Oh, I wasn't even talking shit about you.
71:18I didn't know you were. Yeah, no. I mean, I, I, I mean, look, am I ever one to run away when I'm like, yeah.
71:26Yeah. So I was not a fan of this because we saw Devon H and who has confirmed awesome in football struggle
71:33behind this offensive line, but it seems like, like Ollie Gordon is, he figured it out.
71:39This offense figured it out. It got better. And so now it's a question.
71:43It's more so a question of how high can this go?
71:47And I think maybe a week or two from now, another strong RB to performance, or if he spikes and goes over
71:5420 points, you're going to be able to get somebody to get real horned up and really needs running back help and
72:01say, I want to buy, I want to buy my running back points.
72:05Gator needs some walking around money. And that walking around money is going to be an Ollie Gordon for a late 27
72:13first or 28 first, like just pushing it out.
72:16So it doesn't, if he just turns into a pumpkin, it doesn't hurt as bad.
72:21Like right then. But if, if you are an H and owner and you are, are, you know, if you're hanging on
72:28by a thread as an H and owner, yeah, you gotta, you gotta, I, it, it'd be, it'd be hard for me to do that.
72:36It'd be hard for me to pay that price.
72:39It'd be very difficult for me to pay that price.
72:42But if I was, but if you own him and you're the H and owner and you're, you know, on the lower
72:49end of the standings, do you sell them or do you hold them?
72:54I mean, sell them if you can, I mean, if you, if you can get the, so you don't, you're not worried
73:01about holding them as your handcuff moving forward. No.
73:04Okay. No, I mean, we, we would have, I mean, if you suck and you have a Chan, then you're going to
73:11suck when you have Ollie Gordon too, but you still suck.
73:15Well, sure. There, some things could have went wrong.
73:18She could have gotten unlucky here and there and then you get some injuries and now you're, you know, if you're there,
73:25then yeah, don't, I mean, don't sell, but also if you're going to continue to spike, if he continues to put up
73:3217, 16, 15, I mean, just pull that back up real quick.
73:36Like just, if he's going to score points like that, somebody is going to give you a pretty penny to get a
73:43pretty penny to get them off of you at the trade deadline.
73:47Or if there's no trade deadline, like he gives you another month of basically 17, you know, 16 and a half points a game.
73:5515 even if he's scoring 15 points a game on average, you're going to get, you're going to get something very aggressive.
74:02Right. For, you know, an asset that was very much dead.
74:06Yes. So yeah, I mean, it's, it's probably a, you should probably sell.
74:10I mean, he's got to hang around Miami for another year or two, right?
74:14This is year two of a four-year contract. Yeah.
74:17It's a six-round pick. The contract these poor running backs get themselves wrapped up in is crazy.
74:23Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. Um, so yeah, Ollie Gordon, man, crushing it looks good.
74:28Um, we, we've kind of, we had a, like a conversation at the end of last season about like, is it right
74:35or Gordon or who's the one to own? And it was hard to say and right.
74:40Wasn't looking good. And then right. Was looking good.
74:43And then got hurt. And right. Yeah. It's just great.
74:47Like that, just the, the life cycle of it is just like, Ollie might not have this opportunity had right.
74:53Not gotten a little hurt. Right. Exactly. You did just be like a nightmare timeshare where neither one of them is playing
75:00confidently enough to make a difference in your fantasy lineup, but shout out to Ollie for bouncing back.
75:06I mean, it's just, this has been a precipitous fall from grace considering where he was after he won the Doak Walker a couple of years ago.
75:15Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's hit some power rankings and then we'll, uh, well, actually I got a discord question for
75:22you that I didn't want to miss. I almost forgot.
75:26And then we'll do some power rankings. Get out of here.
75:29Um, one of the $7 holler homies in the discord who, you know, if you holler at us for the $7 holler,
75:36you get the extra episode, you get ad free, you get access to the discord, you get access to the, the, uh,
75:44premium trade calculator, all sorts of upgrades. And if you want, uh, there's even more upgrades that you can get holler at your boys, help your boys out.
75:53If you're, um, if you're able and willing. So he asks, I'm considering a tier up at RB.
75:59I'm currently, I currently have Chuba Ramondre and sharbs looking to move one of them and Omar Cooper, or even a guy
76:06like rice with my other wide receivers being burden Watson, Caleb Douglas and P wash.
76:11Uh, what are some running backs you would target to possibly get some packages sent out?
76:16So he's saying he wouldn't mind moving one of charms Ramondre or Chuba, maybe, um, maybe even move two of them and Omar Cooper.
76:24Um, so like a nice little package to go up in running back life, like trying to get something a little more, I guess, I guess.
76:32First of all, the question there is like, are you shooting for value and youth or are you shooting for playability?
76:39Right? So he's trying to tear up at running back.
76:42So he wants to go up in running back.
76:45So what, what, first of all, who are some RBs that you would like, would, would want to go up to right there?
76:53I'd be hard pressed to not. I mean, could you, could you target?
76:57We just talked about, I had, I mean, I posted our posted from our video and I just said, go buy Ashton Gentry.
77:05Hmm. I really liked the idea of buying, trying to buy, trying to use some of that to buy Ashton Gentry or
77:12Bucky Irving is going to be way much cheaper and you're going to be able to get the similar production.
77:18And Bajal Tootin is another guy that if you're, if you're looking at the signs, all the signs are there for him
77:26to actually, for him to hit in a major way, especially if you're trying to buy points in your lineup for much
77:33cheaper than what they actually should be. Right. So, you know, when you get into these situations, it's always like, Hey, I
77:40can, you know, Bucky Irving is a good example, right?
77:43If, if, if the, you know, the moon's line up there and the person who has Bucky Irving would, would be interested
77:51in somebody like Omar Cooper and trade you a little bit older Chuba Hubbard of like, Hey, you're replacing production with production, but we're losing the value.
77:59And now I'm coming over the top with Omar Cooper.
78:03Bucky Irving is somebody who I, you know, I wouldn't mind doing that with.
78:07Is that enough of a tear up for what he's talking about?
78:11I don't know. But if you get any much further up in this, you know, kind of ranking up here, like Hampton's a tough buy right now.
78:20If you're counting on this tier up to help you try to get after something, I mean, a channel would be one.
78:27If I don't need the points in my lineup right now that I'd go after.
78:32Right. Because he's banged up and out. I still very much am intrigued in, in Quinshawn Judkins.
78:38I don't, I don't know how much of an upgrade everybody views that as right now to Chuba, but you know, overall value wise, I like it.
78:47Value wise, you're value wise. You're winning. We would just need clarity on what the, what the goal is.
78:53If it's maximizing points, then I, no, fuck it.
78:56Yeah. We're riding with Quinshawn Judkins. I think that, I mean, is he a little touchdown dependent right now?
79:02Yes. But you're seeing all of the things with the skillset.
79:05And if the offensive line gets better, then all of a sudden we're back in the cement aisle using all the power tools.
79:13Yeah. So those would be some options potentially of some guys that would be, if you're trying to tier up in value
79:20and stay maybe on the little younger side, I don't hate any of that stuff.
79:25All right, Chev, you want to hit a couple of little power rankings actions before we, before we end here?
79:32And yes, we've got another upgrade here in the pipe for the power rankings as they continue to grow and we continue
79:39to use them, but we have a lot of fun talking about these.
79:43It's always a fun discussion. We usually start with it, but we're ending with it today.
79:48All right. This is kind of where we left off last week and, you know, we were kind of just wishy washy and it's, it's just tough, man.
79:58It's tough because, you know, there's, there's so many bits and pieces that you can, yeah, but on just about any team
80:05in the league right now and pretty much constantly in the NFL, right?
80:09So last week we left off with chiefs, niners, bills, Jags, and bears being top five.
80:14And that was much to big co's doing with the bears being in the top five there.
80:20Then Broncos, Ravens, Hawks, bangles, which you had a lot of love for show.
80:24Yeah. And a courtesy top 10 for the Vikings teams that we did not really discuss at all last week were Steelers and Patriots.
80:32I pulled them up. Packers just had a bummer of a game and we're not really sorted underneath that top like 10 or so right now.
80:41So don't really pay attention to those at the moment, but is there any team you really need to be pulling up right now?
80:49I think the commanders are better than their record, but no reason to pull them up.
80:54Bucks had a surprise last week. That was interesting.
80:57Chargers are staying. Falcons. Falcons. Got to bring the Falcons up.
81:00Yeah. Got to bring the Falcons up. Got to bring, got to bring the lions up.
81:06Got to give the Browns a little love. Got to get, got to get the Browns up.
81:11Who else did you just say? Lions. The lions.
81:14The lions. All right. So, so where do we, where do we put the New York football giants in the pantheon of football teams right now?
81:23Yeah. They're fine right there. I mean, you can move the Eagles now.
81:27Yeah. I mean, like I said, under the, try to discard them.
81:31Under the sea. Yeah. He could be out of here.
81:34If I could limit what you could see, I would limit it right now.
81:39I can't at the moment. It's all good. It's all good.
81:42So, but so, you know, I mean, the, the lions just beat the Packers Packers should have beat the lions.
81:49Um, 1000%, but ifs and nuts. So I would, I would have, I'd put the Patriots ahead of the Falcons though.
81:56Okay. I like the, I like the, I like the Patriots over the Falcons right now.
82:01Falcons just played a solid game against, against my Niners.
82:04And, and, you know, that was, uh, West coast team traveling East for a noon kickoff, man.
82:10Sure. And, and I, you know, I think they, you know, there are some dumb penalties and some, I hate, I'm not, not a big ref blamer.
82:19Um, I don't know how that Jordan walk in CD is in a TV.
82:23Yeah. That one caught me at that. And the Nick, the, uh, Jesse Bates pick.
82:28I did not think I was like, what? Show me what I did.
82:32I feel like I didn't see the other foot get down.
82:36Yeah. So, I mean, I thought the Falcons were good and then that line is tough and B.
82:42John's going to keep them in games and they got a stud in, in, uh, Drake obviously.
82:47And if, if they can find, if pits can stay alive and be good for them, Penix looks good, man.
82:54Like he's, he, you seem like he maybe got skittish there for a little clip, but seems to be kind of getting back to some confidence.
83:03So definitely shout out to the Falcons. That's a, that's a solid and improving team there.
83:08And they, they, they, you know, got a nice win against Sam Fran.
83:12So Patriots over Falcons. Uh, yeah, I believe so.
83:15Falcons over Browns. No. Okay. So are we, are we Falcons over Browns?
83:19Do you feel that way? I don't think so.
83:22I don't think so. I want to, I want to keep the, given the Browns love, um, because I think they're, they're,
83:29they're playing well and they're beating who's in front of them, but, um, all right.
83:34Lions over lions over Browns. Hmm. Probably, but it's, I think that's just like a pedigree situation at the moment.
83:41It is. It is a pedigree situation. It is a pedigree situation, but I mean, they've gotten built to ask from the two good teams that they played.
83:50Have they not? Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're on shaky ground for me.
83:54I don't know. No, they're, yeah, they're, they're to me.
83:58They're just not, they don't have the same edge.
84:00They had a couple of years ago when they could like stop the run, but also they're getting Kirby Joseph and Brian
84:08branch back, which would be huge for their defense.
84:11Yeah. They got Brian branch back last week. Yeah.
84:14They got Brian branch back. Kirby Joseph's supposed to start, but I think they opened his window lines over Brown.
84:20Nick says, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't feel strongly enough to say lions, lions offense.
84:26Probably, probably got to give them the nod. Right.
84:29Yeah. Um, their best assets, right? The lions offense or Brown's defense, which one would you choose?
84:35I mean, lions offense, but right. It doesn't work that way.
84:38Exactly. But right. You can understand. Yeah. All right.
84:41So Falcons over all of those teams that we just talked about, but underneath Patriots and Steelers right now, I got, you
84:49got to put Patriots above Steelers because the Steelers lost to the Patriots.
84:53Um, and then the Steelers beat the Falcons, but that they didn't beat Penix.
84:57Pause. Uh, we hit that. Let's get it. Uh, we both kind of said, I'd probably just stick them with JSM.
85:04But if, if you could, if you could get Jamar and Garrett Wilson, maybe then you're talking about something, but I'm mostly just keeping JSN.
85:12Um, all right, let's see here. I got the Rams sitting outside of 11.
85:17I don't know. I'm sure you don't care for that, but I, okay.
85:21It's not my favorite. However, I there, it's very clearly a talented team, but they're just not closing out games.
85:28I think that they're going to be able to figure that out better than most teams because they've been there, done that, you know?
85:36And they have, they've got the guy at quarterback.
85:39Right. So like I always give teams a big time bump, maybe more than I should when they've got the quarterback.
85:46Yeah. All right. Let's run this top 10. Let's go from top down.
85:50Who's number one. I'll go Niners. All right. I was sticking with Niners.
85:54I'm going to remove myself from that conversation, but I, I see there's some weakness there.
85:59Who's number two. We've got Jags. Ooh, you love some Duval.
86:03I do. I hope it doesn't blow up in my face.
86:06Like the bucks did last year. Bills or chiefs bills bills, bills, chiefs or bears.
86:11I go chief still. All right. Where do we do with the Seahawks?
86:16Got a bump. Got to get those numbers up.
86:19I definitely put them. They've earned their way above the, they've earned their way above the chiefs for sure.
86:25Yeah. I mean, chiefs down. Rashi. No, no. Chiefs up.
86:28Hose down. Mm-hmm. Seattle with a big, with a big move there, but I, I felt like they were kind of there anyway.
86:36So chiefs bears at six. Somebody should be above the bears.
86:39I don't think so. I can't put the Broncos there.
86:42Yeah. No, we don't, we don't trust the Broncos.
86:45Now stop playing with my name and put the Bengals above the Broncos.
86:50All right. I like it. And then Ravens, Ravens or Broncos.
86:53I'm going to go, I'm going to go Ravens.
86:56Healthy Lamar. Good defense. Yeah. Broncos got too much to figure out right now.
87:01Yeah. Offense looks yucky. All right. So for the tens, we got Broncos at nine.
87:06Then we have Vikings at 10 and a courtesy 10 and the nine, 10, 11 spot.
87:11As, as anybody need to come up here and take, take these spots from these players, man.
87:17Do we, do we feel good about the Patriots over the Rams right now?
87:21I feel like I like the Rams. Yeah. I like the rim.
87:25I, I like the Rams as well. Vikings need to be bumped out of the top 10 or are we leaving courtesy top 10 right now?
87:34Leave it, leave it courtesy top 10. That defense is playing absolutely the lights out and Kyler Murray is doing the Trent Dilfer thing to perfection.
87:42Okay. So we're going Niners, Jags, Bills, Seahawks, Chiefs, Bears, Bengals, Ravens, Broncos, Vikings, top 10.
87:47That's what we're doing right now. I like it.
87:50I like it. All right. We'll save that one.
87:53We'll revisit next week. You guys make sure you come back next week.
87:57We'll be same time, same place hollering at, at talking about some player values, talking about trades.
88:03Hit us up in the chat, hit us up on the website.
88:07Um, roster reviews are firing and, and as always, we, we are working on the website behind the scenes constantly.
88:14So let us know if there's any issues, problems, things you want to see.
88:18Um, but yeah, we're, we're really excited about kind of where we're heading with this website.
88:23Um, we've had some ups and downs with it, uh, but there's basically two guys working on it.
88:29Um, and this is a small operation, like always, like we, you know, we all have every single person that's here has a full-time job.
88:37Um, to the fact again, that we compete with any of the big dogs.
88:42And podcast views and YouTube views combining with those things is, is amazing.
88:46And it's all because of you guys. So appreciate y'all.
88:50Um, it's, it's really a great little community we've built.
88:53Come over to the discord if you haven't already and, uh, check out the website.
88:58If you haven't the FF dynasty.com, we'll catch you guys next week.
89:02Live 8 30 PM Eastern. Come on. Hey, and if you, if you're not, if you're listening on the pod or you're
89:09listening now and, and watch it on YouTube, go over and check out the FFD fantasy.
89:14We got a whole redraft channel. If you're not already checking out, I should have plugged in the beginning, but make sure you're checking that out.
89:23This sits and starts and all sorts of good conversations going on over there as well.
89:28So make sure you check that out. FF dynasty fantasy, uh, for all your redraft pleasure.
89:33All right. Catch you next week. Peace. Peace. Peace.

More episodes from PlayerProfiler Fantasy Football Podcast Network

6