Risers & Fallers - Finding the Fakest ADP Risers with Chev
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Jun 22, 2026
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Mon, June 22, 2026
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Brian Thomas Jr.Parker WashingtonCam WardCarnell TateChristian Watson
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Brian Thomas Jr.
PositiveProjection0:12
Brian Thomas Jr. was the biggest ADP faller (-57 spots) from 2025 to 2026, disappointing expectations after being drafted in the first round as the Jaguars' primary receiver target.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:17
Brian Thomas Jr. will be given the first opportunity to justify his draft capital in 2026, but Parker Washington is positioned as the Jaguars' big play explosive option alongside him.
Insight pageCam Ward
PositiveProjection0:03
Hosts discuss tempering expectations for Cam Ward's second season, expecting an up-and-down year similar to Jalen Hurts' 2021 before potential explosive growth in 2027, rather than expecting him to be a complete product immediately.
Insight pageCarnell Tate
PositiveProjection0:04
Hosts express confidence in Carnell Tate's development in the Titans offense, comparing the situation favorably to Jalen Hurts' trajectory with potential for significant growth.
Insight pageChristian Watson
PositiveProjection0:21
Christian Watson is up 280 ADP spots (nearly 100%) from last year as he returns from ACL tear, now at WR27/55th overall, with elite efficiency metrics: 4th in yards per route run, 4th in yards per reception, and #1 in production premium.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveBreakout0:12
Parker Washington is the biggest ADP riser (+71 spots to WR33) and is positioned as a breakout candidate after finishing weeks 9-17 as the Jaguars' most valuable pass-catcher with elite metrics: #1 explosive reception rate, 2.84 yards per route run (4th in league), and ~15 PPR points per game in the slot.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:14
Parker Washington emerged as the Jaguars' primary slot receiver after being soft-launched through week 9, becoming their most valuable pass-catcher down the stretch as they won 8 of their last 9 games to secure the division.
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0:53Good afternoon, my fellow compadres. June 17th, is that right?
0:56Ready to rock risers and fallers again. I've got my man, Chev, with me today.
1:01Chev, how we doing? Listen, if I was any better, I would be twins or I would just be you.
1:07You know, a lot of, a lot of, this is a heavy lies the crown scenario with me.
1:13A lot of posts had to be shit for me to be me.
1:17Hey, listen, I'm willing to wade through all this shit just to get there.
1:21You know, it's a good way to, it's a good way to be.
1:25It's gotten me to where I am at this point in life.
1:29It's, you know, it's got me this phone case here.
1:32It's got me this, this Japanese book that was donated to me from a friend, a few empty banana peels and a pod with you today.
1:40How does that sound? Well, I mean, you forgot that it got you the Bass Bible of redraft where we went heavy zero wide receiver.
1:48Correct. And I, I took this strategy and I applied it directly to my Scott Fishbowl team and I made the playoffs.
1:55See, it's about doing good in the world. It's about doing and doing good for others.
2:00Cause I got, I get nothing from that except for the inspiration, which is, um, you know, Vic history is written by
2:07the victors and you get to be the victor in this scenario.
2:11You're just a hero all the way around. I wish people in my personal life viewed me as such a way.
2:17I think that would make, um, that would make my, uh, make my bank account bigger, make my social circle, um, more reliable.
2:25I've got a lot of flakes in my life, which sometimes, um, can be, can be an issue, but not you.
2:31You showed up today. You showed up on time.
2:34You were ready to rock. We're doing the biggest risers in ADP from 2025 to 2026.
2:39We've got a bunch of names on the list, but one of the first things I wanted to do here is, and
2:46I think I'm going to try and make this a little bit more of a consistent part of the show.
2:52You know, I had the pod father on last week.
2:56He was trying to get my game up. He was trying to, you know, make sure I was where I needed to
3:03be providing the services for the people out there.
3:05So let's start with a little bit of news.
3:08Um, we're going to pop through the player profiler news desk here.
3:12Robert Sala admits Cam Ward has accuracy issues. Are you worried about this?
3:16Are you worried about Cam Ward at all? Or is this just some of the common OTAs camp, um, speak?
3:22Dude, I, I can't tell you how little this concerns me.
3:26I'm, I mean, I'm a Titans fan. I would, I know I'm not worried about this at all.
3:32Weird stuff starts happening when football stops being played and then we all super horned up for football and then somebody put something out there like this.
3:40So no. No, that's, that was almost like real world.
3:43Like when players stop playing football and start, that was, that was very close to that.
3:48I'm with you on that one. I always think of, I have a, an image saved of an ESPN headline where it
3:55was like Patrick Mahomes throws seven interceptions in first practice.
3:58And that was in 20, uh, 2018. And of course MVP 55 touchdowns, nothing to worry about there.
4:04Uh, I will say, actually, I do want to touch on this real quick.
4:08Are we worried about the, we love all the individual players.
4:12We love Cam Ward. We love what he's going to be.
4:15We love what Carnell Tate is going to be.
4:18Are we wish casting what we think they're going to be a little early?
4:23Do you think this is going to be like, uh, another take your lumps year?
4:27Or do you think they'll take a leap? I think it'll get, I think it'll get a little bit better as it goes along.
4:35I was having this conversation with my brother. Yeah.
4:38He's a Titans fan too. We just, I, I brought him into the suffering.
4:42Actually, he brought me into the suffering. But, uh, I, I think that this will probably just take your lumps.
4:48It'll, it'll be better just kind of like it did last year.
4:52And when he led the league in touchdown interception ratio from the last nine weeks of the season.
4:58Yeah. I think it could get off to a little bit slower start.
5:02It could be up and down. We're not expecting Cam Ward to be a complete and finished product.
5:0816 or 15 starts into his career. Yeah. And that would be a fool's errand to, to do so.
5:14But I do think that what you saw from Brian Dayball and developing, you know, developing Jackson, almost getting him killed because he had him.
5:22Yeah. I'm a juggernaut bitch. And then just one head first in linebackers.
5:26I don't think you're going to have to worry about that.
5:29I think Cam is a little bit more polished, but I do think that I'm tempering my expectations because if I don't,
5:36I'm gonna have a hard time keeping these alligators down about Cam Ward.
5:40It is. They're coming and they're coming strong. And they always do with the number one overall picks.
5:46Right. My, my hope for him this year is that we get that.
5:50Like, it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison because of play styles and overall games played, but we get sophomore year
5:57Jalen hurts where it was like a nice season.
6:00And we were like, okay, I can see the blueprint of this team.
6:04And then in 2022, like they exploded into one of the best offenses in the league.
6:09So that's kind of like my, my, my hope for this year.
6:13Dude, getting serious Chuck takes is fantastic. And I love the callback to Jalen hurts.
6:17I think that's in my mind. I, I, I skipped to 2020, 2022 when he was basically third in MVP voting and
6:24completely discount the 2021 season where we kind of had to take some lumps.
6:29And it was like, is he the guy? Is he the guy?
6:33And then he emphatically answers those questions. So I think, yeah, that's the best way to look at it.
6:39Like outcome wise. Sure. It'd be a little spotty, but then by the end of it, you, you're either sold that he
6:45is, or you're going to go into 20 next year, 27 saying, Oh, I don't know if Cam Ward's a guy.
6:52Yeah. Yeah. Really made some strength, some strength. So strength really sharpened some iron.
6:56And then the next season finished at rest of his game to what he became.
7:01So my, those are always my favorite comments is when I'll tweet something and someone will be like, is this a serious Chuck take?
7:09I didn't know those existed. So I appreciate getting a live version of that on the show.
7:14I can always tell if I do a pod with like, I've done a couple with Matt now.
7:20And when I hit him with something like that, or like a statistical poll, he's just kind of like, I didn't, wasn't prepared for this today.
7:28So I know you can do it. I've talked to you offline a book enough to know that you actually know what the hell you're talking about.
7:37It's not just throwing crap against the wall, but when it comes out of nowhere, it's like, Oh, wait a minute.
7:43I'd be screaming. I'd be screaming on Tik TOK if I didn't know what I was doing.
7:48Um, Zamir White trying out for the Cowboys. Um, this feels like a nothing, but I just don't know how many times
7:55we're going to get a say Zamir light headlines.
7:58So I wanted to bring it up, man. I look, man, congrats on whatever Birmingham stallions, Illinois, uh, iguanas, whatever you have,
8:05you have a UFL team he signs with. I'm going to be thrilled for that as well.
8:11Zamir white most famous for being, I think like a fifth or sixth round pick a few years ago.
8:17I think that was 2023, maybe something like that.
8:19So shout out to him and shout out to the article here for saying, and I'll highlight averaging 2.8 yards per carry
8:26in a 22% juke rate in his most recent active season.
8:30And I think most recent active season is the best way we can, um, remember Zamir white.
8:35Yeah. We look, I like that you remembered him.
8:38Like he had, uh, like he was no longer with us because he's no longer with any of my fantasy teams.
8:45Correct. It's been a, he's an easy roster churn.
8:47Jamie's in the house. Always shouting us out. We love having Jamie on the show.
8:52I skipped past Dak because this is a guy that I don't think is going to get talked about a lot, but
8:59this is an interesting, um, interesting offense. Isaiah Isaac Tesla poised to improve in 2026.
9:04So this is another nothing comment, right? Obviously the team's going to speak highly of him.
9:09His highlights stood out for themselves last year. Do you think there's an actual role for him in this year, or is
9:16this going to be a dynasty play? Man, we saw Tim Patrick have some spike weeks.
9:21We saw, we saw, uh, Josh Reynolds have some spike weeks in that.
9:25But I mean, that was with them as the wide receiver too, with Jamison Williams kind of being the Isaac Tesla.
9:32I think, you know, they'll probably have him line up as the outside X wide receiver and he can do some freakish
9:39things because he's six, four to 15. He runs for sure.
9:42But I don't think it's going to be consistent.
9:45We saw Jamison Williams basically, basically be even with Amon Ross St.
9:49Brown. Once, you know, Dan Campbell took over play calling.
9:52And I think that that's, that's their one, two punch with adding in Isaac or not Isaac Tesla, but Sam LaPorter.
9:58There's only so many targets to go around and it's one of the most efficient and prolific passing offenses, but I don't
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10:36Yeah, this is, if anything, a waiver, a waiver addition when there's an injury to the offense.
10:42And if you're at that, you're probably looking for like four for 40 and you pray for a touchdown if that were to be the case.
10:50Because this is, you brought up a good point.
10:53There's a lot of new elements going into the offense this year, even though the pieces are all the same.
10:59We don't know what Laporta and a breakout JMO look like together.
11:03We don't know what Drew Pensingen's pack is going to be on this team.
11:07Is the offensive line going to be able to hold?
11:10All those things. I think the offense is being discounted a little bit.
11:14But it is very star heavy. It's very top heavy.
11:18And I expect that to continue to be the case.
11:21Yeah. No, without question. All right. Let's move into the meat of the show today.
11:25So we are going to get back in here.
11:28Where's my hosting duties? Today, we are going over, like I said, the biggest ADP risers from last year to this year.
11:35And these are going to be guys that are just going in the top 100.
11:40We don't have Ryan Flournoy in here today. We don't have Darnell Mooney today.
11:44We're just going to talk about the big dogs, the brand names.
11:48This is a brand name show. I like to get in the weeds occasionally.
11:53But for the most part, I just want to talk about the big dogs.
11:57And our first one that we did the show last – I did the show two weeks ago.
12:03And the biggest faller for that show is the fallers episode was Brian Thomas Jr., who fell 57 spots in ADP.
12:09And this week, leading off the risers show is our guy.
12:13Parker Washington is the biggest riser in ADP from 2025 to 2026.
12:16He's up 71 spots. He's currently at wide receiver 33.
12:20And I think he's one of those guys that I consistently see sniped ahead of ADP in drafts.
12:25Is this the name of the summer, Jeff? Absolutely.
12:28Yes. Yes. If loving Parker Washington is wrong, I don't want to be right.
12:33I have been – I've drank the Kool-Aid. You know, I almost stripped Drake London of his light-skinned Al-Gaib moniker.
12:39Just so I can love Parker Washington. And I can't – you know, in terms of what the role's been with Liam
12:46Cohen, what the – what's provided the most utility from a fantasy perspective, that's what he does.
12:51When we saw Trevor Lawrence function at a high level with Christian Kirk.
12:55Like, this is Spider-Man meme with Christian Kirk. But I think he's got a little bit more juice because his hamstrings aren't made out of silly putty.
13:04So I'm really excited about Parker Washington. And I do think that him and Brian Thomas Jr.
13:09can eat. But overall, I think it just wheels up for Trevor Lawrence.
13:13This. This. And I got stats and numbers and stuff that we can talk about with Parker Washington to support my argument, too.
13:20Please. Do you know what his nickname is? What is it?
13:24It's CPW, which stands for Corey Parker Washington. We got to do better than that, guys.
13:29We can't – I hate – I really am not a fan of just the abbreviations of the nicknames.
13:35No. J-S-N. A-R-S-B. I want to get some – granted, I don't love the Emerald City Route Artist any better.
13:41But we got to work on that. That'll be our pet project for the chat.
13:46If the chat's got – and the chat is showing up.
13:49Look at this. As soon as we popped on the screen, we got the coach in the house.
13:55We got Mick in the house. We got fourth in fantasy in the house.
14:00Jamie's coming on with you guys on the Scott Fishbowl episode.
14:03There's just all kinds of great stuff going on.
14:06Hit us with some stats. Oh, so basically weeks nine to – weeks nine to 17, he was number one in explosive, explosive reception rate.
14:14He had the highest rating among Jaguars receivers when targeted or pass-catching options, period.
14:18Okay? He was at 2.84 yards per route run, which was like fourth in the league in that span.
14:24And they had basically been soft launching Parker Washington, just kind of rolling him out there, letting him get some snaps through
14:31the first nine weeks of the season. He was basically 25 for 297.
14:35And then when they moved him into the slot, that's when the basic explosion happened, where he went over 15 – basically about 15 points a game fantasy-wise.
14:44So, you had the Jags who were basically fighting for their life, trying to secure a home playoff game.
14:50And you have this guy who we were planning on, like depending on Brian Thomas.
14:55That didn't work out. We were planning on depending on Travis Hunter.
14:59Travis Hunter now playing full-time corner according to multiple sources.
15:02And then they give Jacoby Myers a three-year, $60 million deal.
15:05Parker Washington steps in and is their most valuable pass catcher down the stretch, in which they won basically eight of their
15:12last nine games and secured the division. So, you don't have – you have the historical utility with Liam Cohen, who basically
15:19has produced, you know, Cooper Cup basically after the Triple Crown season.
15:23He had 98 targets in nine games. Then you have, you know, Chris Godwin before his ankle got turned sideways and did
15:30the Cam Scatterbow and Quinshawn Judkins thing. He was basically 18 points a game and number two overall fantasy points before his injury in week seven in 2024.
15:39And then last year you get Parker Washington. We all thought it was going to be BTJ.
15:44I got a lot of BTJ bags packed. I'm holding a lot of BTJ bags like right now as we speak.
15:51But this guy who you picked up off of waivers, I'm pretty sure early on in the season ends up being their guy.
15:58Now Ellen the GM, their GM, James Gladstone, is saying that they need to extend him.
16:03So, like, I just follow the breadcrumbs. I don't think the teams like to turn away from players that do well when
16:10they have to have, when the pressure's on and you have to have a guy make a play.
16:15I just don't believe that they're going to turn away from that.
16:19That is one of my favorite narratives. It's why I'm a little bullish or what's the term?
16:25Barrett, right? Barrett on Trevion Henderson, who just got completely shelved during the playoff run.
16:29And I mean, running backs are obviously a little different than wide receivers, but I love guys in big moments.
16:36He is, I'm glad you brought up the OC talking about how they think he's capable of doing what he did at
16:43the end of last season where you mentioned the metrics.
16:46They speak for themselves. Every metric that you want, it's Puka, JSN, Jamar Chase, and then Parker Washington.
16:51Sorry, CPW. And I mean, like, so that goes to show, and I'll sandwich this because I said something nice.
16:58Dwayne McFarlane at Fantasy Life did a great job of charting wide receivers that have been drafted after the second two rounds
17:05of the NFL draft, who had a breakout season with 14 or more points per game over the course of a 10-game stretch.
17:12So that's a lot of words, right? We're talking about a guy who had a little mini breakout here later in his
17:19career, lower draft capital, all that stuff. It's Hunter Renfro, Marquise Goodwin, Russell Gage, Jawan Jennings, Rashad Matthews.
17:24Not exactly your murderer's row. So, but that being said, he's in an incredible offense.
17:29He's got the athletic metrics to back up and be able to be more than just a scheme fit.
17:35And I think the opportunity is going to be there for him.
17:39BTJ is going to, I think, be given the first chance to make sure that draft capital pays off that they invested in him.
17:47Jacoby Myers is more of like a team player.
17:49He's not necessarily a huge target earner. He's going to run block well.
17:54He's going to be on the field a lot.
17:56But I think Parker Washington is going to be their big play, explosive guy.
18:01And I'm not worried about his separation metrics. I think he was only 77th in separation last year.
18:06But this is a tier one offense in scheming guys open and getting them layups.
18:11And then you want guys who can work after the catch with that.
18:15And he, after BTJ, he's going to be that guy.
18:18Yeah. I mean, this is just, that's what, that's what they created for him.
18:23That's what the role in Liam Cohen's offense, that slot role, the guy who gets to play in the slot and basically
18:30he, you know, Chris Godwin's more of a power slot.
18:33I think he can threaten vertically. And after the catch, I mean, Chris Godwin, before he got hurt, was like third in
18:40the league in yards after the catch in 2024.
18:43So you see there's a, there's a trend in Liam Cohen's offense.
18:46And that's kind of what, that's what I followed.
18:49Like, Hey, what, not, what do I think the player it's himself is going to do?
18:54Like, what does the offensive coordinator call and draw up and what's the quarter comfortable with?
18:59I'll tell you what they invested this, uh, second round draft capital in this blocking tight end.
19:05And they were ninth, eighth last year, actually tied for seventh with the Panthers.
19:09Every time I see the Panthers are up there in 11 personnel rate.
19:13If this is a team that runs a lot less three wide receiver sets, and it does come down to who's getting
19:20on the field in those two rice receiver sets, I'm going to be so frustrated if it's Jacobi Myers and not because
19:27I don't like him, but I just, it's not the direction I want this offense to go, but you know what?
19:34Yes. You're not taking them off the field. They paid him.
19:37He's going to be on the field. We could, there is a world where you end up in the Jaden Reed, Josh
19:44Downs kind of category where you know this guy, you know, you've seen this guy be good over a stretch of time,
19:51but you just don't know on a weekend week out basis, how many snaps he's going to play.
19:57Sure. That's going to be one when leagues are won and lost.
20:01And this is going to be a guy, it's going to be like the SpaceX IPO.
20:06Like, did you get in at one 50 and then it's already up to two Oh one.
20:11Like that's just going to be how we end up viewing guys like this.
20:15We got a little trade here. You know, when I love trades on the screen, you got BTJ in a 20, 27
20:22first for worthy to tootin booty, a 26, two Oh seven and three Oh seven.
20:27I feel good about that is what he says.
20:30And I feel good about that as well, because those are all guys I'm trying to get off of.
20:36Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, on the flip side, I think tootin is one of the most overvalued, you know, overvalued
20:43aspects in the community right now, just because I'm also a shameless Chris Rodriguez Homer.
20:48So there's nothing wrong with being a. A shameless Chris Rodriguez Homer, especially when he's done nothing but piss off the other
20:54backfield in any, anywhere that he's been, whether he's been in Kentucky or Washington, or he's about to do now, anytime the
21:01team was, you know, interested in JK Dobbins, that is a death sentence for us.
21:06Hey, we tried to tell you without telling you.
21:09We did. All right. Now let's let's go to a guy.
21:12Let's go to our number two here, which is just another fun guy.
21:17We're talking a lot of fun guys today. Christian Watson.
21:20Christian Watson is up who he's up 280 spots from last year's draft, which is obviously almost a hundred percent, if not
21:27definitely a hundred percent indicative of his ACL tear that he was coming off of.
21:31And the Packers rotation, they draft Matthew golden, all that they were run oriented offense.
21:36He's up to wide receiver 27 55th overall. And he's just another more fun stats guy, fourth and yards per route run, fourth and yards per reception.
21:45Number one in production premium, which for those who are unfamiliar can go over to player profiler and get yourself one of
21:52these all in packages and get this exclusive data, which is why Chevin I always sound so knowledgeable when we talk.
21:58This is a statistic that compares all outcomes of targets to the league average outcomes of those same targets, yards down distance.
22:05He basically had the biggest impact of any wide receiver down to down and he's getting the ADP reward for it.
22:12How do you feel about Christian Watson bouncing up this high?
22:15I mean, they got rid of Romeo Dobbs. They got rid of, they got rid of what's Megan Fox thumbs the dude in Philadelphia now.
22:23Dante Wicks. Yeah, they got rid of his dropping ass.
22:26So I think, you know, Christian Watson suffers from the drop skis every now and then too, but I think that he's
22:33the most, this is the perfect, this is the perfect best ball guy because he's going to, when he hits, he's going to win you a week.
22:42And we've always had the red zone utility with Christian Watson.
22:45I think he scored six touchdowns in 10 games last year.
22:49And then he was on pace for 60 for a thousand and 10, you know, over the course of a full season.
22:56So I'm, I really like it. I think this is going to be the first time that he's going to climb above
23:02a 20% target share for the Packers, which is kind of rare air.
23:07I think it's true. It's basically him and Tucker craft that are going to be the one a and one B of this offense.
23:14You know, I'm a huge Tucker craft guy, but there's, there's gotta be room for a guy with Christian Watson skillset to
23:21be able to, what he can create with the ball in his hands on top of the fact that he can get,
23:28you know, he can, he can stretch a defense vertically.
23:31He can, he can score from anywhere on the field.
23:34I think that that makes him worthy. I mean, if he plays, he's going to beat wide receiver 27.
23:40So I'm comfortable with this. And like you said, the only reason he's even here is because he was hurt last year.
23:47That is such a massive, massive part of it.
23:50I mean, you look at his and I'm the reason I stuck on this part right here is his fantasy points per game.
23:57I mean, yeah, basically doubled from last year, but it's only up barely two points from 2023.
24:03Like this is a guy who has shown that he's capable of big play, consistent touchdown potential.
24:08And I just think that his role on this offense and you know, we got, we got some, we got some blanket being poured on us right now.
24:17What is it? Water being poured on the cold blanket.
24:20I feel like the caffeine's hitting me at the wrong time right now.
24:24Oh man, you are. These are the, these are fair arguments against Christian Watson, but I think this team is doing an
24:31effort to retool around target consolidation because I think it's been a disadvantage for them at times because you're not seeing Jordan
24:38love on the same page with his wide receivers game to game.
24:42So you fleece a few of these guys out of town guys that I think we're clogging up the roster a little bit.
24:49I think Dobbs is fine. That wicks was a roster clogger and you focus on premium talent that can explode.
24:55So this is a low volume passing attack, but it's a high efficiency passing attack.
25:00And I think there's room. Like you said, I love the one a one B with craft because I think Reed and golden.
25:07I think those are going to be target designed impact players.
25:11Correct. On an offense that I think, you know, I look at like where Luther burden is going.
25:16And I think that had Christian Watson not had his injury history.
25:20That's where we would usually project a player like this that just had the season he had.
25:26Yeah. That's to me. I think that, you know, I wholeheartedly agree with this.
25:30It just doesn't make a ton of sense. It doesn't make a ton of sense for them to give him the contract
25:37that they gave him to ship the guys out of town that they did.
25:41And then they just continue to kind of use him in this bit role.
25:46And there's going there's just going to be, like I said, Jaden Reed, not on the field and wide receiver sets.
25:52I mean, two wide receiver sets. Christian Watson is going to be out there in two wide receiver sets.
25:58He's going to be the highest A dot on the team.
26:02And he's probably going to finish second to Tucker Craft in yards after the catch.
26:07Like, so. Yeah. It's just too many good things.
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26:16He's above the Kirk Cousins Mendoza line. Big time.
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27:12It is. And I'm very high on Jordan Love.
27:15I'm not a big top 10 kind of ranker.
27:18I have your Mahomes tier, your Allen Lamar tier, your Herbert, Dak, Burrow tier.
27:22And then I have Jordan Love. I might be missing a guy or two there.
27:27But I have Jordan Love right beneath them as far as guys that I think can execute and just crush the ball.
27:34But they're just not asked to. And I don't think that's indicative of an inability to.
27:39I just think that's how Matt LaFleur likes to play the game.
27:43It's how he liked to play with Aaron Rodgers.
27:46So I just think we're going to be able to see.
27:49You can see that they're telling us what they want to do.
27:53And I think that's kind of like the thesis of this little segment we're having right now.
27:58And I think he's capable of doing it. So they know what they want to do.
28:03They have the pieces to do it. They just have to go out there and execute.
28:08Yeah, without question. All right. Now we get a switch over.
28:12Let's get off these wide receivers here. And let's get into a guy I just cannot believe we're talking about.
28:18But here we are. Kenneth Gainwell is our third biggest riser, up 239 spots from 2025.
28:23He is the RB32. And this is a linchpin of guys who are looking at RB, R0 RB, hero RB, punting on RB, whatever may have you.
28:32And look, when you look at what he was able to do last year, I understand.
28:37But, Jeff, I have a question for you. And it's an important question.
28:41And it's going to color the way I look at this topic.
28:45If Arthur Smith is who we thought he was, why are we drafting Kenneth Gainwell this high?
28:50Well, noted I'll coach a terrorist, Arthur Alvin Smith, first of his name, is one thing that they do.
28:56And they utilize their running backs. One thing that we've known that Tampa has done with under Baker Mayfield's reign is throw the ball to the running backs.
29:05So, you know, Bucky Irving didn't have a carry inside the five.
29:09We all know that. But he did have five in-game targets in 2025.
29:13And I think that that kind of continues. This is the perfect insurance back for, you know, for a guy.
29:19A perfect insurance back that could have week-to-week viability in TPR leagues because of the way that he catches the ball.
29:26114 targets last year. I think that with him, if Bucky's not ready to go early in the season, this is a steal for a 0 RB guy.
29:34And in your dynasty leagues, I mean, this is a guy who kind of gets, you know, who kind of gets forgotten
29:41about, obviously, with the news that happened with Bucky.
29:44I don't think anything. I don't think people are people have a ton of confidence pressing the button or executing trades for him.
29:51So having Gainwell is an essential piece to a lot of a lot of different rosters.
29:56And I think that's going to continue. Okay. I feel a little bit better.
30:01I feel like I've calmed down a little bit.
30:04And I maybe just had to get a little bit of that out of me.
30:08You know, last year was an outlier year for him.
30:12He more than doubled his highest points per game.
30:14But I just think he was finally utilized in a way that matched his athletic skill set.
30:20You know, when you're playing behind other guys that are supremely talented, like I do think DeAndre Swift is like Saquon Barkley, obviously the bar is.
30:28You're obviously going to get shelved a little bit in Philadelphia.
30:31And they've never, that's always been a star driven team anyways.
30:35They don't necessarily mix guys in. Tampa has done that under Todd Bowles, regardless of who the offensive coordinator is.
30:41Canales, Cohen, Grisard last year. And then you look at like the offense is going, if you want a piece of Tampa, right?
30:48This is one of the most cost effective pieces you can get for an offense that I think is going to be a top 10 offense.
30:57He's going around. We got Darian Price, who I like potentially the opportunity there.
31:01But Seattle, they're a high success rate offense. They're not necessarily a high scoring offense.
31:06That's not how they want to play the game.
31:09Tyler Algier in Arizona, Ja'Cory Krosky married. I don't know if I want any of that running back room unless it's Rashad White.
31:16It's just like you said, it's one of the only guys in there that I think can punch up above his ADP
31:23to a point that I think you're going to get a great RLY.
31:27Yeah. No, I mean, that's exactly what it is.
31:30I mean, if you're assuming that Kenneth Gainwell can't play football because he was stuck behind guys with excellent draft capital and
31:37commitments from a team, that's just kind of how you get stuck.
31:40I mean, this was one of my favorite prospects when he came out of Memphis.
31:45Yeah. From there, I watched him. I watched him in college.
31:49I watched him. I watched him early in the league.
31:52And I was kind of shocked that it played the way it played out the way it has.
31:57But yeah, last year, he can do this stuff.
32:00He can he can do the down in down out running back stuff.
32:04And he's tremendous as a pass catcher. So sure.
32:07And I do think that Bucky Irving is a better player than Jalen Warren, but I don't think it can be discounted
32:14how much Kenneth Gainwell ate into that. Now, we got another good comment here talking about you've got way more history of
32:21this guy not being able to eat into somebody else's work than doing it.
32:26I just wonder if you've got Zach Robinson coming over, if he's able to if they're able to identify a similar opportunity for him.
32:33Now, the problem I have completely with this is Zach Robinson coming in from Atlanta.
32:38And I don't think you can draw anything away from how they use Dijon because they had Dijon.
32:44That would be like me watching like a Brad Pitt movie and being like, OK, what can I take away from why
32:50the ladies like Brad Pitt and apply that to myself?
32:54It's just not going to fucking happen. And that's not to write off Kenny Gainwell or Zach Robinson whatsoever.
33:00But I just think this one is a lot more projection than most of the guys we're going to talk about today.
33:07Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, without without knowing how exactly he's going to change, what you can rely on
33:13is that he's going to run a lot of outside zone and he's going to throw the ball to his running back.
33:20So to me, it means that we're going to get probably not a more than a 60 percent snap share for Bucky.
33:27And we're going to get a lot of Kenneth Gainwell on passing downs.
33:31And if something happens to Bucky, he'll be a high end RB2 with RB1 spike weeks throughout the season.
33:37And this is an offense that is this is a cornerstone watershed moment for almost everybody on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
33:44Yes. Yes. Baker Mayfield, number one, from a contract standpoint and a future standpoint.
33:48Todd Bowles from a hot seat standpoint, a little bit for Emeka Ibuka in my mind, because it's kind of like, you
33:55know, he's coming off of a lack of momentum from last year.
33:59We want to see we want to get his career trajectory in the right way.
34:04I don't know how many great years we have left out of out of Chris Godwin.
34:09So when teams are in a pressure cooker like that, I think especially veteran coaches and veteran quarterbacks, they have a tendency
34:16to lean on what's worked for them in the past.
34:19And this Buccaneers offense, this Buccaneers team, even going back to the Tom Brady days, if you want to have some Todd
34:26Bowles influence in there, always getting the running backs involved in the passing game.
34:30Yeah. I mean, it's just it's that simple. Some teams throw the ball really well to the running back.
34:36Some quarterbacks are better at checking down. That's one thing Jalen Hurts doesn't do that Baker Mayfield has done.
34:42I mean, Rashad White eclipsed 50 or 50 receptions or 40 receptions in every single year that he was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because of that.
34:51So I just think that it's I think that there's a lot more here to like than just writing him off and
34:58saying, oh, well, it just it happened because of, you know, it just happened.
35:02Let's just say that just happened. Yeah, my favorite stat is last year, Blake Corum was number one in the NFL for
35:09running backs who had 100 rushes in EPA per rush.
35:12Rashad White was number two. And that is insane.
35:15So let's let's just slide Kenny Gainwell in right there.
35:18I do want to shout out Bucky Irving and say Bucky Irving is if he keeps falling, I'm going to be grabbing
35:25him because I do think he could be a 15 touch for reception guy on average.
35:30But he's got to keep slipping because he's going around some pretty hefty competition right now.
35:35Yeah, it's it's gross to click Bucky because you can't say, hey, he's going to be the goal linebacker or he's going
35:42to be the unquestioned bell cow because of how miserably that went last year.
35:47I could see Bucky having almost like a Kenneth Walker type between the 20s and then maybe they sub him out at the goal line.
35:55But then where were we drafting Kenneth Walker before?
35:57You know, then we have to get into that mindset of things.
36:01But there's there's a hope and a prayer. Yeah, now a player on the Cleveland Browns is always a hope and a prayer always.
36:09So when it comes to our guy, Harold Fannin Jr., who is tight end six on the season, he's up 171 spots,
36:16which is not shocking for any breakout rookie coming into the next season.
36:20My notes on him vary from obviously he has the talent to replicate 2025 to has so much change that it would
36:27be unfair to ask a second year player on the Browns.
36:30To do so, where do you land on Harold Fannin?
36:33If we just get the quarterback figured out, I could feel so much better about all of this.
36:39I just don't have any answer to whether or not it's going to be.
36:43I mean, it went pretty well with Shadour. It went, you know, I don't know how it's going to go.
36:50We saw when Deshaun Watson took over. I think that David and Joku, that was kind of went or no, that was with Joe Flacco.
36:58So I haven't seen Deshaun Watson do anything good for any ground catcher in quite some time.
37:03I almost fucked it up there and with Joe Flacco, who has been just a fantasy boom for anything, any environment that
37:10he touches outside of the Cleveland Browns early in 2025.
37:13Like, so I like Harold Fannin. I just think that, you know, if he's going off the board as the tight end
37:20six, I have to I've got to I've got to pause a little bit because.
37:25Yeah, I you can't create a path for him being.
37:28I mean, yes, he's probably going to be the number one target earner in 2026.
37:33But what does that what does that mean? What does that look like?
37:37Is that going to be something that sure really benefits your fantasy team and scores fantasy points on a consistent basis?
37:43He's a really talented player, but I'm just probably going to just click the button and wait a little bit.
37:50Wait and click the button a little bit later.
37:52Rounds later on a guy like Ron Gadsden or, you know, just taking a shot, taking a shot in the dark because
37:59of the fact that I don't like this offense.
38:02I don't like the unknown around this offense. Yeah, you take a quarterback who has never produced a single memorable tight end
38:09season into Sean Watson going back to Houston, even in his days with the Browns, like you said, and you combine that
38:16with a head coach who is pretty much outside of the University of Georgia.
38:21The same thing's been the case. I don't love that.
38:24It's very similar to why I don't like Sadiq this year in New York for a similar reason.
38:29Gino never been a tight ends guy. Frank Reich never been a tight ends guy.
38:34Everywhere is a little bit different, but those are just similarities I look for when you're paying a big ADP like this, right?
38:41And he obviously deserves it because he had a historic rookie year.
38:45He's got, I'm going to say minimal target competition.
38:48I do like Concepcion in Boston, especially upgrades over last year, but I think there will be more passing volume this year.
38:55So I think it'll just be a more efficient, kind of like a rising tide lifts all boats situation.
39:01And then you look at the guys going ahead of him and you're talking about potential roster anchors, right?
39:07Just at the position, McBride, Bowers, Loveland, Warren. I love those guys.
39:11I have no questions about their talent or their situation.
39:14And then the guys going after him, I might feel a little bit better about the talent and the situation.
39:20Kyle Pitts, Tucker Craft, Sam Laporta is probably where that conversation actually ends.
39:24But then you even go further down the line.
39:27I'm glad you mentioned Gadsden. Just guys that I think might be able to really punch above their weight.
39:33And I just don't know how much Fannum's doing for you at ADP.
39:37Now, if he slid a round or two and guys felt similarly that you and I do, I think then I would
39:44be able to maybe get to round like seven or eight and be like, okay, I know what I'm getting here.
39:51I've built the rest of my roster appropriately. Let's take a shot on a guy that has a low ceiling but a high floor.
39:58Yes. Yeah. It's as safe as it can be.
40:01And then if it's just not bottom of the barrel, seller-dweller, Brown stuff, then we're getting a guy who could finish top three at the position.
40:09And I just – I mean, I think that that's a steal.
40:13But also, it's really presumptuous of us to assume that the Browns will ever fucking get quarterback.
40:18Yes. It is presumptuous. This is the Felford-Again Award.
40:21Yeah. Because, you know, like right now he's going around guys that I think have a ton of swing, right?
40:28DeAndre Swift, Mike Evans, Roma Dunze, Carnell Tate, even if you want to get Christian Watson in there.
40:33But if he were to fall for reasons we've laid out, I think, rather well and rather handsomely, and then you're comparing
40:40Harold Fannin to like a Kyle Monungay, an Alec Pierce, a Makai Lemon, a Jacoby Myers, then I think you're getting into
40:47like, okay, the floor of my roster is high enough that I can take a chance on a guy like this.
40:54Yeah. No, without question. I just – it's a much lower ceiling.
40:58But, you know, if you're not going to miss completely because Harold Fannin is – Harold Fannin is awesome.
41:04And he's one of nine tight ends to go over 650 yards since 2000.
41:08So it's a big deal what this tight end class was able to accomplish last year.
41:13Mm-hmm. And somebody's going to take a slight step back for reasons that are not their own.
41:18I don't know if I want to be the one caught holding the bag when that happens.
41:24No. Not at all. All right. Let's take a quick break here.
41:28And when we come back, we're going to talk about a guy that had the most just miraculous 2025.
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42:06But, Chev, I have to ask you, Michael Wilson, a man who has jumped up 180 spots to wide receiver 39, he's at 89th overall right now.
42:14Is Michael Wilson a good deal? I feel like Michael Wilson last year was like one of those feed the children commercials
42:21where for just seven waiver dollars, he could have been on your roster and been a wide receiver one for the back end.
42:29And I feel like now we're getting, we're putting the cart way before the horse.
42:33I like Michael Wilson a lot. I do. But I'm not banking on everything that you said Dwayne McFarlane laid out for Parker Washington early in the episode.
42:42Michael Wilson was the other guy that he was talking about.
42:46Yes, he was. So, it's hard for me to think that one, Mike LaFleur, baby LaFleur, now, you know, formerly with the
42:53Rams, and we just saw what they were able to do with JSN and 13 personnel.
42:58And, or, you know, not JSN, but Puka and 13 personnel.
43:01And what they were, I just don't see them consolidating the target share and funneling it to Michael Wilson.
43:07I can't see that happening. No. I mean, why does he have 39?
43:11I could be in, but I'm not expecting the output from 2025 in any way, shape, or form.
43:17I wish he would have just retired, honestly. Last year was so great.
43:21It was one of the all-time, like, there for me when I didn't even know I needed you to be there for me.
43:28And some things just need to stay in their year.
43:31Like, Hawk Tua just needed to stay in 2024.
43:34The Coldplay couple just needed to stay in 2025.
43:37Michael Wilson, I feel very similarly about. I would love to be able to get back some of that time, you know,
43:44like, and think about that moment when I'm in a dark place, when I'm sleeping on the couch, when I'm in the
43:51back of a cop car, when I'm in a bathroom at a party that I don't want to be at.
43:57And I'm not even using the bathroom. I just don't want to be out there, and I don't want to socialize.
44:04That's how I feel about this because all the metrics tell us that when he was on the field with Marvin Harrison
44:11Jr., and they were both healthy, he was outperformed.
44:14And we might have Carson Beck play this year.
44:16We might have Gardner Minshew play this year. We've got a new coordinator coming in.
44:21We've got an absolute demon in the backfield. I think he's obviously a guy who can play like a top-20 wide receiver.
44:28However, the efficiency metrics tell us that, but my problem is that I have no idea how to project what this Frankenstein's
44:35monster of an offense is going to be. And when there's two or three other guys on that offense going later or
44:42a little bit earlier, but I like their ADP more ROI-wise, I just don't know what this is going to do for
44:49me week to week unless there's an injury, and I hate banking on injuries.
44:53No, and that's the issue with Michael Wilson is that at best, he's the 1B tied with Marvin Harrison.
44:59Like Trey McBride's a big dog. He's got the contract.
45:03He's got the records. He's got the track record of production, and he's the safest asset in the offense.
45:09And I think then you go to Jeremiah Love, and then you start trying to figure out where the touches and targets
45:15come from for the remainder, the wide receivers. And that's where it makes me really uncomfortable.
45:20I could take him if I've gone a wide receiver heavy build, and he's like my wide receiver four, wide receiver five.
45:27I just, I can't do it. I can't do it if I'm going heavy running back, and he's going to have to
45:34slot into, like, if I've got three wide receivers, and he's got to be that third one, I'm not going to feel
45:41great about it, but I can talk myself into it.
45:44That's a good way to look at it is, like, how much am I relying on this particular pick, and how much
45:51am I going to ask them to perform for me week to week, month to month, whatever it is.
45:57Certainly don't expect them to lead the league and team pass attempts per game at 38.2.
46:02I would figure that comes down dramatically. And if you're taking five to six pass attempts per game off of that, and
46:09then you're taking the remainder, let's say 33, and you're distributing some of those to the running back a little bit more,
46:16to another wide receiver a little bit more, I just feel like, you mentioned the Parker Washington thing so badly, and I
46:23feel like this is such a better example of this probably happening, and I don't even think it's going to be his fault at all.
46:31I just think it's the way that they've built this team.
46:35No, I mean, honestly, from a dynasty perspective, you probably sell high on him, and then if you don't, you just wait,
46:42understand that this could be a lost season, and then he's going to go somewhere else in free agency and get a bunch of money, potentially.
46:50If he does really well and you keep him, then you have an ascending asset.
46:54But I'm not banking on lightning striking twice. No, and he is, granted, I want to shout out the community here, he
47:01is going in a range where it's kind of like you could find a pretty sizable red flag with a lot of
47:08the guys going around here, whether it's an injury bug, or it's a rookie, or it's a guy who's sharing time on an offense as well.
47:17I just think that you're going to, this is more or less like, and I thought you made a good point, like
47:23I would welcome him on my roster, given the right build.
47:27I just don't want people, I want people to understand what the ceiling is of this player, not necessarily the floor.
47:34Yeah, no, it's, the floor is, the floor is lava, the floor is, you know, the bathroom that you're hanging out in,
47:40but you don't want to talk to anybody. It's just not, you don't have a real good floor and a feeling about it.
47:48Correct. Jamie wants to know, who's a better deep dynasty stash?
47:51Taj Brooks, and I'm going to get this right for the first time ever on a podcast, Trevor Ashan.
47:57So, did Trevor also want his last name to be pronounced H-Han too, or are we just?
48:03I'm going to feel like an idiot if he's like, no, I like it, and now I've gone 0 for 7 on getting one of these right.
48:11We need to get a weigh-in here. I'll go, I'll go, I'll go Taj Brooks.
48:16Yeah, I think that Taj Brooks probably presents himself as, not, the opportunity here, if something, these guys are only going to
48:23get play time if something happens to the depth chart, and just the opportunity share for what could happen on that Cincinnati roster.
48:30Even though I do, the Panthers are a very run-heavy team, but I think it's going to be personnel dependent where the
48:37Bengals, I think, just raise the floor immediately based upon your opportunity.
48:41Yeah. No, it's just, you want that role. They run the ball a lot inside the five-yard line.
48:46They're going to give their running back a lot of touches.
48:50They're going to throw the ball to the running back a lot.
48:54It's the environment creating an artificial floor and a higher ceiling than what the player's talent might lend itself to.
49:00Sure. And you're looking, Stash is the right way because I don't see a lot of upside, but you guys are watching
49:07a fantasy football show on Wednesday in June. You want those deep Stash information.
49:11I get it. I know why you're here. All right, let's talk about a guy that I think has the most variable
49:18options of anybody we're going to go over today, and that's going to be Alec Pierce, who is up 171 spots from last year.
49:26He's the wide receiver 36, 75th overall, and this is the first one that I actually hate his ADP.
49:32It's palatable, and I understand it because he got paid a ton, and they shipped off Michael Pittman.
49:37But I just cannot ever see myself or the handsome and smart viewers out there relying on a guy rehabbing a serious
49:44injury, who's relying on a guy who's rehabbing a serious injury.
49:48Like the hardest working parts of my liver can already see that this being the year that the wheels fall off for the Shane Steichen Colts.
49:56I can see Mike McDaniel or Declan Doyle or considering the way that the Ursaes run the organization, even Dan Orvlosky coaching the team next year.
50:04I don't know. How do you feel about it?
50:07So this was one of my prouder calls of 2025 is just him being the guy that kind of ascends.
50:13I thought it was going to be AD Mitchell to overtake him, but clearly he has earned everything that he has been given.
50:21He broke out. I like it. I now what I can't get down with is the offseason ankle surgery, and he's not going to be.
50:29I mean, we saw him walking around, you know, in a boot, I believe, during OTAs.
50:34It just doesn't inspire confidence. Daniel Jones is supposed to be ready to go.
50:38Wide receiver 36 is fine, but I mean, we've never had.
50:41I believe you pull that down. We've never had more than 80.
50:4584 targets was a career high. Now he's led them in receiving yards the last two seasons.
50:51Which is hilarious. And touchdowns as well. But how do we get this to 110 to 120 targets?
50:56It could pay off massively, but we've just never seen him be a volume dependent option.
51:01And I think the pressures of Michael Pittman and AD Mitchell lend itself to probably them funneling everything through Tyler Warren and
51:08him still playing the same role that they value a ton.
51:12And not, pardon me, not being as reliable for fantasy as some, you know, as Tyler Warren probably would be.
51:18He's a two that's being paid like a one.
51:21And I'm not even sure he's going to get three production.
51:24And I, once again, I do not think that it is of a talent question.
51:29He is top three in air yards, a dot deep targets and yards per reception.
51:34But for that to happen again, it requires a quarterback that's going to be able to get the ball down the field like that.
51:41They were 18th in yards or in attempts per game last year.
51:45And I can't imagine that goes up. If anything, I think it probably comes down.
51:50Now we're talking about only three less. If you were to finish in the bottom court, that'd be three less per game.
51:57But you've got Michael Pittman gone. But I still like Josh Downs.
52:01I like Tyler Warren. I think this offense runs through Jonathan Taylor.
52:04I guess I just don't see the upside case.
52:07And with guys going around him, I see the upside case a lot more.
52:12Yeah, no, it's a it is a hey, I'm pushing all my chips to the middle and I'm just going to bank on being right about Alec Pierce.
52:20But those weeks where he gives you where he gives you three point six because it's just one reception for twenty two
52:27yards or one reception for twenty six yards. You're going to want you're going to want to walk out and play and
52:34play on the expressway with no car. Is he the current?
52:38I posted this about three weeks ago and I got a lot of pushback on it.
52:43Does he have the white wide receiver belt right now?
52:46I don't know. Does he have it over lad?
52:49Does he have it over Ricky Pierce? All probably over Ricky because Ricky hasn't quite gotten the full compliment.
52:55He hasn't yet. And I mean, obviously, Cooper Cooper Cup has aged out of the white wide receiver belt.
53:01It's a tough question. It's a really tough question.
53:04Can we give it to a tight end? I had thought about that, but it's he saying that has it.
53:10But I mean, he was out. He outperformed lad last year.
53:13So I just wonder you have to I think you have to have the belt for consecutive years before being outperformed by another player.
53:21Slightly means that player has the belt. You know, you need a little bit more a little more equity built up.
53:28We'll stick with lad then. I'm going to go.
53:30I feel better about lad. Right. I like that.
53:33All right. Let's get to our first somehow Chicago bear.
53:36And it's not even the guy that people are going to think.
53:40Kyle Manunga is going to be the next player up.
53:43He's up 164 spots from last year, which makes sense.
53:47Seventh round rookie. Unsure of what we were going to get from Swift in this offense overall.
53:52He is RB 34. He's one of the top handcuffs.
53:55He's 91st overall. How do you feel about this gentleman who is 46 percentile and 40 yard dash?
54:01He plays football like a man who can't outrun a bunch of people.
54:05So he's just going to. So he's 1000 percent just going to run through your face.
54:10And that fits the Chicago Bears well. I don't I don't see him overtaking DeAndre Swift.
54:15So it's just going to kind of be a frustrating if you have this guy as your fourth, you know, as your
54:22fourth running back or a bench stash or he's a must have.
54:26You have DeAndre Swift. But I don't see him creating creating a meaningful or taking a step forward in a role this this year.
54:33So he's priced at RB three prices. I would expect him to maybe slightly outperform that.
54:38I mean, the Bears did have Dolman retire. And they're dealing with some dealing with some issues on the offensive line.
54:45I know one of their tackles, I believe, Torres Patel attended and they lost Eric Bien-Ami.
54:50But his crazy ass, like good stuff for running games.
54:53So I I'm I'm out. I'm completely out. It's a good it's a good reason to be out because this is an
55:00offense that, you know, this is fluid. Don't get me wrong.
55:03But DVOA has been projected as the 32nd worst or offense or 32nd worst defense in the league.
55:09So you take a plotter like Manungai and you have a team that's going to be passing the ball a ton or at least the passing consolidation.
55:18You've got Swift in there for, you know, obvious or non-obvious passing downs.
55:22And I just think that this is the Alexander Madison nominee for running back that you'll bench for 14 weeks, except for the three weeks of starters out.
55:31And he'll be an RB one on all those weeks.
55:34And that's purely attributed to Ben Johnson and the way this offense is able to manufacture rushing production.
55:39I just can't subscribe to an athlete as minimal as him being in the David Montgomery role.
55:45I just he can't catch the ball. Like I said, he's just an elevated jag.
55:49I think this like if he were to get the opportunity because of an injury to Swift that either forces Swift to miss time or play injured.
55:58I think that we're going to get like prime Isaiah Pacheco, which is I can't believe that's already being referenced.
56:04But that's where we're at. And that's what I feel.
56:07Oh, a prime Isaiah Pacheco reference. I'm not going to lie.
56:11I thought that I had suffered immediate onset CTE when you said those words out loud.
56:16I've never been more proud to be a podcast host than that sentence.
56:20You just ripped off right there. It's a tricky one.
56:23It's a tricky one. And he really is at that point in drafts where you have to decide, am I going to
56:30take a high value handcuff or do I want to take another guy that I think I know not will just play
56:37regularly, but could even if my guy got the job outproduce him.
56:41And I'm not saying I feel that about these guys.
56:44But, you know, Raham J. Stevenson, Rico Dowdle, Jadarian Price, Tony Pollard, Blake Corum, I probably value even more just because I
56:51know Corum, I think is going to be they they alternated drives last year to see factor in more this year as he's improving as a player.
56:59Kenneth Gainwell, like you mentioned. So it's just you want a piece of this offense.
57:04I just wondering if we're wish casting what this piece actually is on this offense.
57:09Yeah, I don't I mean, we're all predicting the Bears to take a massive step forward.
57:14But I just I think that they're going to they're going to consolidate those those carries and targets a little bit more
57:21to the guys that can do a little bit more with them.
57:25I don't think that works in common on guys favor.
57:28I mean, he did have 10 carries inside the five yard line and four touchdowns.
57:33So there's a little there's a little utility there.
57:35But this is kind of a better and best ball pick for me.
57:39Yeah, just eliminate the headache entirely and just sail on to sail on to December, January.
57:45I like that. All right, let's I'm going to bring you back on the screen full screen so people get that big, beautiful mug.
57:52We're going to rapid fire the next 15 guys, maybe less than that.
57:56And then I just want to know. We'll simplify it to drafting them, not drafting them or unsure.
58:02How does that sound? That works for me. All right.
58:05Quentin Johnston drafting. Love it. Rico Dowdle not drafting.
58:08Love it again. Two for two. Basil tootin. Not even if there's a fire.
58:12We got the far end of the spectrum. I like it.
58:16Javante Williams. Absolutely. Love it. All right. And just for the audience here, these are in order.
58:21The rest of the highest ADP risers from 2025 to 2026.
58:25Colston Loveland smash. Smash. Smash. Travis Asian. Nah, I'm out.
58:28Man, you thought about it for a second, though.
58:31I did. I did. Because I thought that they would force Alvin Kamara to retire or go do something like do underwater
58:38basket weaving at the facility and not be a part of the office.
58:42But they're just going to let him do whatever he wants.
58:45And if he wants to play football, then he's going to affect Travis A.
58:49Chan. My bad. See, I almost did it. It's hard not to do.
58:54We get a full off season of grace, I think.
58:57Yeah. Seeing Alvin Kamara getting hyped up in the videos made me definitely a little nervous on that one.
59:03Quinshaud Judkins. In. Nice. Cam Scadaboo. Oh, Anglo-Saxon Assassin.
59:06In. In. Chris Olave. In. George Pickens. No. Emeka Ibuka.
59:09In. Kyle Pitts. Out. All right. Let's hit one last one here.
59:12Jaden Reed. Out. I can't believe it. I got to be in at 43.
59:17There you go. Man. I don't know if I've ever gone.
59:20I think I agreed with every single one that you said, which I really try not to do because it makes for better podcast content when I don't.
59:29But you see through me and you brought out what I needed to hear and I loved every second of it.
59:36Listen, whenever we hop on the mics, I'm not sure what happens, but some magical shit happens.
59:41It does. It's kind of like you can feel why God made us in his image and I think we're reflecting that very well.
59:49Jamie wants to know, do you prefer Corum or Charbonne Dynasty?
59:52I prefer Corum. What about yourself? Yeah, I'll go Corum.
59:55Yeah, I think the offense and the talent and the opportunity Corum's floor, I think is Corum's.
60:01Yeah. Floor is Charbonne's ceiling. So yeah, that's what I go there to.
60:05You're out on Gentia today. No. What? Oh, he's setting you up.
60:09I see. This is a classic. I should have vetted this before I threw that one on the air.
60:15All right, Chev. That was wonderful. Why don't you tell the good people what you have going on, where they can find you, all the good stuff?
60:23Go follow me on the Twitter X at Chev90 and go follow all the stuff that I'm doing at Two Guys, One
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60:40I love it. Make sure you guys are checking out all the good stuff.
60:45As always, I am Chuck Bass. We will see you next week.
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