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1:12What's up, everyone? It's JJ Zacharysen. In this episode 1106 of the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast.
1:17Thanks for tuning in. Before getting to the mailbag questions this week, I wanted to remind you to check out the Late Round Draft Guide.
1:26It's filled with game theory talk, ways to spot breakouts and busts, draft strategy for 2026, players to target, players to avoid, and so much more.
1:34It'll be out on July 10th, but you can pre-order now at a discount.
1:39Just check it all out over on LateRound.com. The first question this week is from Chris via the LateRoundMembersHub.
1:45It says, Hey, JJ, the new site looks awesome.
1:48Thanks. My question is, why is Tyler Shuck ranked significantly higher in Redraft Superflex ranks than Dynasty?
1:54I know he's older than your typical second-year player, but that still feels counterintuitive to me.
1:59Thank you. So first off, I'll say what I've said before on this show about Superflex season-long rankings, and note that I really don't like them.
2:07At all. I don't think people should blindly draft off of Superflex rankings, because every redraft Superflex league is going to have
2:15a totally different economy in how they value quarterbacks.
2:18With Dynasty, at least there's a market component that you're playing into.
2:21We can look at sites like KeepTradeCut to see what the general market is for a quarterback.
2:27With season-long Superflex leagues, that really doesn't matter. More than anything else, in those drafts, in those season-long Superflex drafts, you need
2:34to be reactive to what's going on in that quarterback position.
2:38So if you're looking at my Superflex season-long rankings and comparing them one-to-one with Dynasty ones, I don't think that's a smart idea.
2:45Just for those reasons alone. But people consistently ask me for season-long Superflex rankings.
2:50That's why I provide them. And I do my best to properly value quarterbacks, even though I don't think there's one single way to value them.
2:59But look, I have Tyler Shook as QB 15 right now in season-long.
3:03I have him around QB 19 in Dynasty. Now, I could argue him a little bit higher in Dynasty, but that's technically
3:10where my rankings have him right now. This has come up countless times in the show in the past with a number of different young players.
3:19But I don't automatically have a young player ranked higher in Dynasty versus Redraft.
3:23Because the cost to acquire that player is completely different in those two formats.
3:28Like, right now with Tyler Shook, I think we'd all agree that he's not locked in as a starter for the next 4, 5, 6, 7 years.
3:37We're not quite there yet. I'm optimistic. I actually think he was better than Cam Ward last year as a rookie.
3:44But we're still talking about an older prospect who went outside the first round.
3:48He's got the system around him. He could put up some really great fantasy numbers.
3:53But it's no guarantee that he's the starter beyond this season.
3:57In Redraft, that doesn't really matter. I don't care about what happens in 2027 with Tyler Shook.
4:02So I don't have to play the downside game or worry about the downside at all.
4:08The downside for Tyler Shook literally doesn't matter when we're specifically looking at 17 games in 2026.
4:13Technically 16 in the fantasy season. And I'm talking about career-long downside.
4:17So that changes where I'm going to rank a player.
4:20Because I'm trying to recognize the range of outcomes here.
4:24I recognize that Shook could be really good. But it can also go south.
4:28And that balances out into his Dynasty ranking. But I don't care nearly as much if it goes south in season-long.
4:35Because there are more ways to make up for that mistake.
4:39Even in a Superflex format. Season-long leagues are shallower.
4:42There's more on the waiver wire. And again, we're not worried long-term here.
4:46Shook is probably going to be a decent fantasy asset.
4:49Even if he doesn't really hit as a real-life passer.
4:53Because he has volume. There's a good environment there.
4:55And there's rushing potential. It's like when Justin Fields was starting.
4:59I'm not saying that Tyler Shook is Justin Fields.
5:02But hear me out. I was never ultra high on Fields and Dynasty.
5:06Because the passing numbers were always questionable. Which means there was always a risk that he could lose his job.
5:13In redraft though, as long as he was starting.
5:16He was generally giving you good fantasy numbers. He was giving you a good floor-ceiling combo.
5:21I didn't really care about what would happen with Justin Fields beyond that given year.
5:26Malik Willis is in a very similar boat right now too.
5:30We genuinely have no idea how well Malik Willis is going to perform as a starter.
5:35But there's zero doubt in my mind that his Dynasty value is a lot more volatile right now than his redraft value.
5:42His redraft value in single quarterback leagues is just a late-round pick.
5:46Even in Superflex leagues, it's not that bad from a season-long perspective.
5:50If it doesn't work out, you can just dump him in a single quarterback league.
5:55In a Superflex league, if you're really worried about the floor, you can platoon him.
6:00Get a third quarterback. Get like an Aaron Rodgers type.
6:03In Dynasty Superflex, if you look at keep trade cut, you have to give up a player like Christian Watson to get Malik Willis.
6:11That's not insignificant. And it's a long-term deal. I remember the same conversation on this show about Gabe Davis back in the day.
6:19I had Gabe Davis ranked way higher in redraft than I did in Dynasty after he came off that crazy playoff performance.
6:26After his second year. In redraft, he was going in like rounds 4 through 6 that year.
6:31I wasn't high or low on him. But I saw a scenario where the ceiling was actually there.
6:37But like a 4th to 6th round pick in redraft is not the most significant investment in the world.
6:43You can easily win a league championship if your 5th round pick doesn't work out.
6:48The waiver wire in a redraft league is a lot more fruitful.
6:52But the Dynasty community was treating Gabe Davis like a breakout was going to happen.
6:57I couldn't get there. Because there was a very scary floor, which is what we ended up seeing.
7:03Basically, all this comes down to this time frame that we're analyzing in these different formats.
7:08I'll be far more aggressive in redraft because it's an easier format to fix your mistakes in.
7:14And there are fewer consequences for being overly aggressive.
7:17Especially if you're talking about late round picks. In Dynasty, being reckless with your evaluations can lead you down a scary path for years to come.
7:25So you have to weigh the downside risk more.
7:28Of course there's upside too. And I'm trying to weigh that as well.
7:33But the downside to upside calculation is just different in Dynasty than it is in season long.
7:38And that's why Tyler Shuck is ranked slightly lower in Dynasty than he is in redraft for me right now.
7:45This next question is from Bilido Ryan on Blue Sky.
7:48It says, Well, I'd first make sure I wasn't crediting my success in fantasy football to simple exposure rates.
7:54I'm sure if you had 90% Jackson Smith and Jigba last year, you would have done very, very well.
8:01Even if you were at 90%. Because he hit in a big way.
8:05But there's no right or wrong answer to this.
8:08Because it comes down to how you generally want to manage your teams and how much risk you want to take on.
8:15If you're risk averse, then you'll want lower exposure.
8:18If you don't care, then have at it. The one thing I'll say, though, is that you'll want to mostly diversify your early round selections.
8:26Especially rounds 1-3, where we see by far the highest hit rates.
8:30Messing those up can really hurt your fantasy team.
8:33And if you get the same player over and over again from that range, and then he doesn't work out, or if he gets hurt, you're screwed.
8:42So I generally won't have a player in that area of the draft over like 25% or so.
8:48If I were to give you a rough estimate.
8:51But beyond that, looking at the later round picks, you should feel more comfortable having certain guys on a lot of teams.
8:58The hit rates for late round picks is really, really small.
9:02And in managed redraft leagues, which is what you're referring to here, you can make up for those mistakes.
9:08Like I was just saying with Tyler Shuck. We're not talking best ball.
9:12So if you draft like Jonah Coleman everywhere, and it's clear that he's just not him, you just drop him, and it
9:19really doesn't matter for your bottom line. Even if you have like 80% Coleman.
9:24Hit rates that late are tiny to begin with.
9:27I worry about this much more when we're talking about early round picks.
9:31But in the end, it's just personal preference. I think 10 leagues is enough where you do want to be cognizant of overall exposure, though.
9:39This next question is from Ethan via the Members Hub.
9:43It says, Hey JJ, thanks for all the hard work.
9:46I'm curious to get your thoughts on Emeka Abuka.
9:49Do you think his early season production was a fluke, or was his late season drop-off mostly due to injuries, both his and Baker's and other factors?
9:58With Mike Evans gone and Chris Godwin aging, the window is wide open for him to step up as the undisputed wide
10:05receiver won and get all the targets he needs to be the guy.
10:09Do you buy him taking the leap this season, or are there more layers to his progression than I'm probably missing?
10:16So I wrote about Abuka in the Late Round Prospect Guide because in that guide, there are year two profiles.
10:23You can still get that guide over on lateround.com.
10:26But the first thing I did with Abuka this offseason was see if we've ever seen this kind of split in the
10:33past, where a rookie started off so hot and then just fell off.
10:37And the answer was not really. We know season-long numbers are going to give us the most signal anyway, because there's a larger sample size.
10:45And he had good full season numbers. A 1.75 yards per route run rate, a target share of almost 24%.
10:52He had the second most first downs in last year's class.
10:56Like regardless of how it came together, it still came together for Emeka Abuka.
11:00To answer your question super directly, it's a little bit of both.
11:04Abuka was playing out of his mind week 1 through 5 last year.
11:08Through those games, he was by far first in the NFL in yards on deep ball targets.
11:14And for what it's worth, 76% of his targets were deemed catchable at that point in time.
11:20He was probably going to regress in some way.
11:23It's just that he regressed to a 50% catchable targets rate, which is super low.
11:27And get this, from weeks 1 through 5, Abuka had 8 receptions on 20-plus air yard throws.
11:33From week 6 through the end of the year, he had 11.
11:37Just 3 more deep ball receptions and 7 more games.
11:40And he finished with almost 150 fewer yards on those plays.
11:44He just wasn't getting it done via those big plays.
11:47We'll never know the exact reason for this. I think injuries to both guys, Abuka and Baker, that made it difficult for
11:54Abuka to sustain what he was doing. Or at least regressed to a reasonable mean.
11:59But through it all, I look at his year 2 model score, I look at his market score, I look at his
12:06season-long numbers, and I look at him as a player.
12:10How he played in year 1, and how he looked as a prospect.
12:14I think the body of work is there for him to have a great second season.
12:19I just wish that he was a little bit cheaper, so I could get a ton of exposure.
12:25He's going in a range of the draft, where I can make a great argument for a lot of wide receivers.
12:32If you listen to Becoming a Best Ball Bro, then you've heard me talk about that.
12:37I love that range of wide receivers. But that love does include Emeka Abuka.
12:42This S one's from Shane from the Members Hub.
12:45It says, What am I missing or not understanding about the outlook on the Eagles offense for this year?
12:51AJ Brown is gone, but the new OC and some potential depth added to the roster.
12:56Can it really get worse than last year, or is this more of the market digesting uncertainty?
13:02Look, I'm with you, Shane. I don't think you're missing anything.
13:06And I think Jalen Hurts is probably the most mispriced higher-end quarterback right now.
13:10And as you heard earlier this week, market score thinks the exact same way.
13:15Jalen Hurts has been starting for the Eagles for five seasons now.
13:19So since 2021. When looking at those five seasons, not only was Hurts' points-per-game average below 20 for the first time last
13:26year, but the team's EPA per play was dead last, their rushing EPA per play was below zero for the first time,
13:33their success rate on the ground was dead last, their yards per play was dead last.
13:38I mean, the Eagles had gone through plenty of changes offensively during Hurts' time as starter.
13:44Including a season without AJ Brown. And they were better in that season by most metrics.
13:49AJ Brown is still a really good player, so it's hard to just simply replace that.
13:54But I do like the guys they added in Stowers and Makai Lemon.
13:58And I don't think that we can downplay the change in offensive coordinator and what that might do.
14:04Kevin Petullo was so bad last year. The routes he had the wide receivers running were beyond basic.
14:10There wasn't as much motion. There wasn't that much RPO work.
14:14It was a really bad and boring offense. So I'm optimistic that things are going to turn around for them.
14:20I like Devontae Smith where he goes. I love Jalen Hurts where he goes.
14:25And I like Saquon in that 1-2 turn area.
14:28And I'm at least optimistic that Makai Lemon can fit in and be productive too.
14:33So this is definitely an offense that I want to buy into.
14:37The last question is from Casey from the Members Hub.
14:40It says, Hey JJ, the fantasy community seems to be pretty split on Lad McConkie.
14:45While some are in love, many have very real reasons for doubting him and his ADP.
14:50Last season was a disappointment. He might not be on the field in the Chargers' two tight end sets.
14:57And it's not a guarantee that Keenan Allen won't rejoin the team this season.
15:01You also mentioned in the last episode that there were some concerning trends in his data that you were working on for the draft guide.
15:09My question is, why are you still in on Lad?
15:13Huge fan of your work and new member. Keep doing what you're doing.
15:17Thanks, Casey. Thanks, Casey. So I don't think the Chargers are going to sit Lad McConkie in two tight end sets, or at least very often.
15:25He's too talented of a player for that. Yes, his 20-25, definitely a disappointment.
15:30But it's not like other wide receivers on that team dominated per route run while Lad was just really bad.
15:37He was in the same vicinity as Quentin Johnson and Keenan Allen last year in yards per route run.
15:43He led the team in end zone targets. He had a 21% target share.
15:47It wasn't all doom and gloom. The note that you're talking about related to trends is that yes, when looking at previous
15:55season per route run data, it is predictive. Yards per route run, targets per route run, first downs per route run.
16:02And his first downs per route run mark last year was really, really bad.
16:06It was just 6.2%. And historically, since 2014, which is where my ADP data dates back to, but historically, we've had 27
16:13wide receivers rank past wide receiver 12 and before wide receiver 37 who qualify here.
16:18So wide receiver twos and wide receiver threes. 27 of them with 200 or more routes run in the previous season with
16:26a first downs per route run rate below 7%.
16:28Of those 27 players, they underperformed versus ADP expectation on average by over two PPR points per game.
16:34That's very bad. Only one of them exceeded that expectation by two or more PPR points per game.
16:40So only one of them outperformed where they were being drafted by two or more PPR points per game.
16:47And that's just expected points per game based on where they were drafted.
16:51I know I'm saying the same thing over and over again, but I want you guys to really wrap your head around this.
16:58And actually, I just talked about him, but Emeka Abuka is actually part of that list too.
17:04He had a low first downs per route run rate last year.
17:08But I'm just bullish on the Chargers offense. I think there's a legit chance that it's very good.
17:14I think I've cooled off slightly on Ladd because his ADP has been rising in the things that I discovered in the guide this year.
17:22And I talked myself into Quentin Johnson a little bit more.
17:26But I think Ladd belongs in that amazing tier of wide receivers in that like round three to round five range where
17:33there are so many upside players to choose from.
17:36Because we can't forget, back after year one, Ladd McConkie was super, super legit.
17:40I don't think we should only look at his previous season numbers, even if a lot of them are predictive.
17:47And look, this is where market score can really help us.
17:51And his market score is not as bad as you'd think.
17:54He's ranked right below T. Higgins as wide receiver 17, despite all those poor previous season numbers.
18:00Market score thinks his overall ADP is on point.
18:03That he's being drafted at the end of round three into round four, and that's where he should be drafted, according to that metric.
18:11His top comp for market score is Chris Godwin in 2019, where he scored almost 20 PPR points per game.
18:17But there are definitely some questionable players on that comp list too, which speaks to the volatility that I'm talking about here.
18:24So yes, there's definitely some concern. And yes, I do think I've called slightly about Ladd McConkie compared to like a month
18:32ago, where he was a little bit cheaper. But I want pieces of this offense, and despite his down season, I still
18:39think Ladd McConkie has a lot of talent. His rookie season doesn't just happen by mistake.
18:44That's it for today's show though. Thanks to all of you for listening.
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